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Freedom Tymoshenko in exchange for European perspectives of Ukraine

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Freedom Tymoshenko in exchange for European perspectives of Ukraine



For a long time there have been battles between the authorities of Ukraine, the opposition and deputies of the European Parliament for the option of the future fate of Yulia Tymoshenko. 21 October this year. at the Council of the European Union it was decided to postpone the discussion of the question of signing an association agreement with Ukraine. The main reason for this decision is the unregulated Kiev issue of “electoral justice” in relation to Tymoshenko.

The companions of Tymoshenko have long been reconciled with the thought that full rehabilitation for the former prime minister will not be possible. They plan to receive for their leader a partial pardon, which will provide an opportunity to ensure Tymoshenko’s departure for treatment in Germany, and then allow the former prisoner to take part in political activities in Ukraine.

But the plans of the opposition does not suit the current government in Ukraine. President V. Yanukovych is ready to propose a different solution: the Verkhovna Rada is adopting a law that allows sending prisoners for treatment abroad, but after returning to their homeland, they will be required to serve the remainder of the term. With this proposal, V. Yanukovych makes Tymoshenko a “defect” and completely removes the most dangerous rival from the political arena of Ukraine in the future presidential election.

However, neither Tymoshenko herself, nor her opposition supporters agree with such conditions. And although there were several bills on this issue in the Ukrainian parliament, lawmakers are still unable to reach consensus on their texts: the opposition demands that Tymoshenko be allowed to engage in active political activity abroad, and the Regions are in favor of a significant restriction of freedom of action for the former Prime Minister .

As mentioned above, politicians from Strasbourg and Brussels take an active part in discussing the fate of Yulia Tymoshenko. So, one of the members of the European Parliament, Marek Sivets, in a personal blog told about his scenario for the release of Tymoshenko. He proposes to reduce the term of imprisonment from seven to three and a half years, and then, by a court decision, to release Lady Yu on parole, obliging the former prime minister to pay the amount of damage assigned. The head of the European Parliament, Elmar Brok, hastily “disowned” from such a proposal of his colleague, and Tymoshenko’s entourage was outraged by this option of deciding the fate of his leader.

According to a number of international analysts, the time for activating the decision to release the ex-prime minister is as good as possible: the Ukrainian authorities are striving to conclude an agreement with the European Union, and for this they need to deal with the future fate of Y. Tymoshenko, coordinating their decision with the Europeans. For European officials, participation in the discussion of this problem was an opportunity for career growth and the satisfaction of personal ambitions.

Kiev is constantly reminded that time is running out very quickly.

Today, in the decision of the fate of the former Prime Minister of Ukraine, a stage has come when all parties will provoke, bluff and deceive each other, which will finally confuse a difficult situation.

Foreign media also contributed to the stimulation of world public interest in this issue. So, recently one of the Polish editions, referring to persons close to Viktor Yanukovych, reported that Y. Tymoshenko would be released in November of this year. Political analysts believe that this step for the president of Ukraine is the most optimal in solving a difficult issue. By releasing Yulia Tymoshenko just before the summit, he will create the conditions for signing the long-awaited association agreement with the European Union, and will also be able to continue to unwind many new criminal cases already opened against the ex-prime minister. In the meantime, there will be investigations on these cases, Y. Tymoshenko closed the way to big politics. Consequently, she will not become a competitor of Yanukovych in the next presidential election.

However, the question now arises as to how the pardon of the former prime minister will be granted. Most likely, it will be as a gift "from the master's shoulder," which will lead to an improvement in the image of the current president himself. If the Verkhovna Rada adopts a law allowing to decriminalize the article on which Tymoshenko sits, it will help Yanukovych to arrange a pardon as a rule of law in the state.

The companions of Tymoshenko believe that, having received freedom even under such conditions, their leader will climb not on Golgotha, but on a pedestal. If she is forbidden to participate in higher politics, then no one can forbid her to engage in politics as a simple citizen of her country - for her own pleasure.

When analyzing the flow of information on this issue, one cannot get rid of the feeling that Tymoshenko’s exchange for Ukraine’s European prospects is just a game in which the one who finds the best move wins. And now the next step in the European game is for Viktor Yanukovych.

Materials used:
http://rus.ruvr.ru/2013_10_23/JUlija-Timoshenko-soglasilas-na-svobodu-ponevole-5320/
http://newsoboz.org/politika/ukraine-sleduet-vovremya-reshit-situatsiyu-s-timoshenko---mid-28102013142300
http://www.penki.lt/Drugie-novosti/Sammit-Vostochnogo-partnyorstva-v-Vilnyuse-pod-ugrozoy-sryva.im?id=342868&tid=461
http://ukrday.com/politika/novosti.php?id=77571
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  1. makarov
    makarov 29 October 2013 08: 56
    16
    Both the past and the current government of Ukraine have a single message - "Loot, wins evil"
    Dear I.T. it is quoted more capaciously

    Power quality criterion -
    Successes of bitches and scoundrels;
    I'm afraid now not the rusty old men,
    A white-toothed fellows.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 29 October 2013 08: 56
    19
    I got Tymoshenko, got Yanukovych, got Ukraine, got the EU. Tired of insanity.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 29 October 2013 09: 35
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I got Tymoshenko, got Yanukovych, got Ukraine, got the EU. Tired of insanity.


      Given the title and content of the information as well as taking into account your words, Alexander. Hello hi
      I recalled a trailer of the movie from 12 chairs. laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 October 2013 09: 51
        +2
        Quote: Apollon
        I recalled a trailer of the movie from 12 chairs.

        And in my opinion, everything is much simpler. Hello Apollo hi
    2. zmey_gadukin
      zmey_gadukin 29 October 2013 11: 02
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I got Tymoshenko, got Yanukovych, got Ukraine, got the EU. Tired of insanity.

      Why then such articles? ))))
      Let's get better about tanks, missiles, ships ...
      1. Felix200970
        Felix200970 30 October 2013 00: 31
        +1
        Quote: zmey_gadukin
        Why then such articles? )))) Let's get better about tanks, missiles, ships ...

        +100. Got no talk about anything. Anyway, no one knows the alignment. Why then these pouring from empty to empty. The site is called "Voennoye Obozreniye" and not ukrosrach or entertaining political science for dummies (or, rather, irons)
    3. 3.7.964
      3.7.964 29 October 2013 11: 29
      22
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I got Tymoshenko, got Yanukovych, got Ukraine, got the EU. Tired of insanity.

      Let me be curious, how did Ukraine get you? Here we are Ukrainians, Tymoshenko got it, Yanukovosch, too, various free-Bandera rabble got it, the Jewish oligarchy got it, I don’t speak for Europe at all. And how insanity got us, you cannot imagine. How exactly did Ukraine get you? I think that Ukraine, Russia and Belarus are one country, temporarily divided and occupied. Neither Ukraine, nor Belarus, nor Russia, can not get me, the politicians-traitors sitting in power get me, I get fed up with the "orange" and "white ribbon" scum, and provocateurs who want to embroil Ukraine with Russia. hi
      1. Denis
        Denis 29 October 2013 12: 03
        +1
        Quote: 3.7.964
        I am fed up with the traitor politicians sitting in power, I am fed up with the "orange" and "white tape" bastards, and provocateurs who want to embroil Ukraine with Russia.

        Do not tell me why they do it, in your Ukraine.
        1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 29 October 2013 12: 27
          +3
          Quote: Denis
          Do not tell me why they do it, in your Ukraine.

          the history and geography of these territories contributes to this by arranging a mess in Ukraine paid by comrades who want to keep Russia in suspense, depriving it of many advantages, and integration with Russia will happen, whether they sign the association with the EU or not, sooner or later! In short, the point is not in Ukrainians!hi
          1. VARCHUN
            VARCHUN 29 October 2013 17: 42
            +2
            It’s good that I understood this, the people have nothing to do with it.
        2. 3.7.964
          3.7.964 29 October 2013 13: 13
          +5
          Quote: Denis
          Do not tell me why they do it, in your Ukraine.

          Please specify your question. I just can name a dozen politicians who are very good at combining high posts in Russia with anti-state activities in Russia.
        3. air wolf
          air wolf 29 October 2013 13: 47
          0
          see my comment above
        4. badger1974
          badger1974 6 November 2013 12: 49
          -1
          I will say, because the Ukrainian mass media is opido ... axis, in the middle there is absolutely no information about technical history, there are no technical reviews, there are no programs like "I want to know everything", they sing, dance, rummage in someone else's dirty laundry on the screen , fluent statistics of who killed whom, and constant snot of serials with a break for half-hour advertisements of plugs, ointments, bank loans and foreign cars, - you must admit that in such a world it is easy to live off your will, from where the new Chelomei, Koshkins, Morozovs, etc.
      2. air wolf
        air wolf 29 October 2013 13: 44
        0
        So I personally, and I assure you and our majority, they have nothing against the Ukrainians, we are very close in genetics and spirit, but everything in the form of Banderism and other Jewish, Busurmansky pribluda, controlled by the Entente, create problems in Ukraine, mind you "on" , because from the word "to the outskirts", to the outskirts, no one walks or does not go, rich Russian)) Therefore, you, like us in Russia, do not decide anything and we will be able to solve, because you were sold to Europe like us to America. And we will still be united in spirit like all Slavic peoples!
        1. 3.7.964
          3.7.964 29 October 2013 13: 50
          +1
          Quote: air wolf
          And we will still be united in spirit as all Slavic peoples!

          good
        2. VARCHUN
          VARCHUN 29 October 2013 17: 44
          +2
          I agree on unity, but there is no sale of the people, I’m for my own.
        3. badger1974
          badger1974 8 November 2013 12: 20
          -1
          right, you have to go to the Crimea through the outskirts
      3. Daursky
        Daursky 29 October 2013 14: 09
        +1
        totally agree with you!!!
      4. VARCHUN
        VARCHUN 29 October 2013 17: 41
        +2
        I completely agree with you, but there are some little people who don’t understand anything in history in politics, he’s just a TABY in his mental development, but wants to seem smarter and gets into adult conversational topics. This is this novel.
    4. Black
      Black 29 October 2013 15: 13
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I got Tymoshenko


      You do not bother her ....
    5. VARCHUN
      VARCHUN 29 October 2013 17: 37
      0
      The fact that you are tired of everything you can tell yourself before going to bed, but you didn’t unsubscribe here, otherwise they will think that you are sick a little (he said softly).
  3. Canep
    Canep 29 October 2013 09: 05
    +1
    For the sake of joining the EU, are they ready to discredit their judicial system? About the sovereignty of Ukraine in general, you can forget.
    1. Pit
      Pit 29 October 2013 10: 10
      +4
      Quote: Canep
      About the sovereignty of Ukraine in general, you can forget.

      Yes, no one even remembers about him, if only it is necessary to shout loudly for the people with the required.
      And everything else has long been measured, divided and stolen.
      Just if you release Julia, then something dragged away, you still have to return it not to the people, but to her.
      And you're talking about sovereignty, the judicial system. Forget such words, in relation to Ukraine, they are not there.
    2. Stamp
      Stamp 29 October 2013 13: 07
      +8
      Quote: Canep
      For the sake of joining the EU, are they ready to discredit their judicial system?

      Moreover, the judicial system is here, it is already discredited, because such processes are politicized, remembering how Tymoshenko was tried is a laugh through tears. And it is better not to recall corruption in the courts.
      It is proposed to adopt a law on treatment abroad, but other VIPs will also be able to OFFICIALLY leave the area to recover shaky health.
    3. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer 29 October 2013 13: 37
      +6
      Yes, this system is already discredited for the most I can not. There is no justice in our country. You probably don’t know that there is an unwritten order for judges to prohibit acquittals. So there you have it, when people are innocent, they stop amnesty, with small fines in the form of punishment, by statute of limitations, etc. People seem to be condemned, but there seems to be no punishment.
      Well, the fact that you can go to any court with a certain amount of money is not a secret. Confidence in the judiciary is zero. Take at least the last story with a former deputy from Odessa. The man was detained on charges that he seemed to have hit someone at a rally seven years ago. And the man was put in jail, although everyone knows that he just squeaked against Yanukovych. So much for justice.
      1. MG42
        MG42 29 October 2013 13: 49
        +3
        Quote: Drosselmeyer
        Yes, this system is already discredited for the most I can not. There is no justice in our country

        100% about justice in our country without mates is difficult to talk about. One has only to face it with all the rotten gut of this system ..
    4. morpex
      morpex 29 October 2013 20: 05
      +5
      Quote: Canep
      For the sake of joining the EU, are they ready to discredit their judicial system?

      It is impossible to discredit our judicial system a priori. How can one even discredit THIS Smelly CLOAK, where corrupt prosecutors, judges, and scumbags who go under them sit. In a word, capital rules there and not the law. It is shameful and bitter for this ...
  4. dobrik10
    dobrik10 29 October 2013 09: 05
    +6
    And what can this lady give Ukraine if she can theoretically become president ???
    As far as I remember from her past political adventures, she did not commit anything significant to the good of her country, just populism.
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 29 October 2013 09: 17
      +5
      And what can this lady give Ukraine if she can theoretically become president ???
      As strange as it sounds, Yulia will be more useful to the population. Having become president, Yulia will quickly ruin Ukraine, she simply cannot do otherwise. Under Yanukovych, Ukraine will last longer, but European people will have time to organize a civil war for us. It turns out that under Yulyasha it will be possible to get off with "little blood".
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 October 2013 09: 54
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir 70
        Having become president, Julia will quickly ruin Ukraine; she simply cannot do otherwise.

        Sorry, and who will be to blame for this?
        1. SvetoRus
          SvetoRus 29 October 2013 10: 46
          +3
          Sorry, and who will be to blame for this?
          The answer is obvious - it will definitely not be bright pedo-elfs from the European Union, but Mordorian orcs, led by the Darkest! smile
        2. Captain Vrungel
          Captain Vrungel 29 October 2013 11: 16
          +9
          Sorry, before destroying Ukraine, it is necessary to wipe out Urkainu from the face of the earth, i.e. territory seized by criminals along the entire vertical of power. They turned the Constitution into a corrupt whore, replacing the Laws with "concepts" and living on the principle of "throwing a sucker is not a scum." Lies, cynicism, hypocrisy, arrogance. impunity and complete diktat on the part of the bandyukoviches is already off scale. Opposition, ambitious personalities, far from the people, only thinking. how to fit your butt more comfortably.
          The people are tired of this lawlessness, realizing that all forces must be thrown into their survival, that for the coalition and opposition they are simply "kazly, preventing them from living" and simply "biomass that does not decide anything."
          Ahead of the 2015 elections. Yanukovych will jerk between the EU (knocked out the main trump cards from the opposition about the desire of the West to Europe). And the vehicle. To the east, he is calm. His bandits are in full control of the region.
          The EU, already 7 states have refused to participate in the signing of "pleasures" with Ukraine. Brekhnya and Yanukovych's farce are pretty tired of them.
          "The lady with the scythe" is dangerous for Yanukovych, but not as much as before. Yatsenyuk did everything to make the opposition toothless and lose the popularity of the people.
          There will not be any Maidans (except for paid ones). For 22 years the people became convinced that scoundrels and crooks united in "political forces" in their selfish interests climb into power. for whom the people were, are and will be simply "biomass" and which they remember only before the elections, make penny handouts and forget, rip off after the elections in the greedy enrichment of their beloved.
          Someone recalls the genocide of Ukrainians in the Stalin era, but no one sees the genocide of Ukrainian citizens (multinational state) today. Example.
          A 72-year-old single pensioner was brought to the city hospital. There is no money for medicine, they don’t feed at the hospital, relatives bring it. As a result, the old man wrote rejection of hospitalization and was expelled to the street with pneumonia. Than not genocide. A blatant state crime of power against the people. But, it is understandable, there is no state, there is territory captured by aggressive bandyukovichs.
          1. MG42
            MG42 29 October 2013 13: 55
            +8
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            A 72-year-old single pensioner was brought to the city hospital. There is no money for medicine, they don’t feed at the hospital, relatives bring it. As a result, the old man wrote rejection of hospitalization and was expelled to the street with pneumonia. Than not genocide. A blatant state crime of power against the people. But, it is understandable, there is no state, there is territory captured by aggressive bandyukovichs.

            Yuri were you in our hospital in a hospital? Do you know how many hryvnias per day are allocated by the state for the nutrition of one patient and how many times are they fed per day and how? It’s just that it’s not possible to feed for money, and it’s not possible to eat that stew once a day for lunch.
            There is no free medicine for a long time.
            1. Captain Vrungel
              Captain Vrungel 29 October 2013 19: 44
              +3
              Sergei! Someone and pottage is a great help. But they don’t feed at all. There is nowhere to heat food, you can boil water only with an underground boiler or kettle. Medicines at his own expense, up to cotton wool and rubber gloves, to nurses. I took only medicines for my mother (pneumonia) at the pharmacy for 5 days in the amount of her one and a half pensions, not counting x-rays, tests, etc. I am able to pay. A lonely pensioner is doomed to death at home.
              In a terrible dream, our reality in those days would not have been dreamed of.
              1. MG42
                MG42 29 October 2013 21: 27
                +3
                Quote: Captain Vrungel
                Sergei! Someone and pottage is a great help. But they don’t feed at all. There is nowhere to heat food, you can boil water only with an underground boiler or kettle. Medicines at his own expense, up to cotton wool and rubber gloves, to nurses.

                Well, in general, the state allocates about 1 UAH / day for medicines and 15 UAH 2 kopecks for food, meals for tuberculosis patients, 72 UAH for inpatients, 12 UAH for a patient in a hospital, another thing at the local level is the difference between the meager chief doctors this is a separate issue, but of course on 6 UAH 2 kopecks you can have a chic lunch and don’t deny yourself anything ..
                Much depends on the local authorities, depending on whom the hospital is subordinate ..
                Quote: Captain Vrungel
                A lonely pensioner is doomed to death at home.

                It is expensive to treat, with regard to death, the funeral is also not cheap in large cities, about $ 1000 is modest, this is of course without a monument ..
              2. zvereok
                zvereok 30 October 2013 08: 12
                0
                Don’t worry, according to Miss Arbidol, we will begin to advance rapidly from January 1 on January.

                It’s not surprising. Medicine is money and it’s a sin to lose such a resource. For example, a murky story with the change of Takhchidi to his Arbidol man, contrary to the decision of the court, which reinstated him. Probably there were similar cases in other profitable institutions. This is not to mention the case with tomographs, after which Golikov was placed in the accounting chamber.

                PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
          2. morpex
            morpex 29 October 2013 20: 16
            +1
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            Lies, cynicism, hypocrisy, arrogance. impunity and complete dictatorship by bandyukovich, is already going wild

            Well done Yuri! Everything is said in the case. From myself I will add. These bandits have adopted Hitler's quote: "Lie on a large scale, make a lie accessible, repeat it more often, and in the end they will believe you."
        3. O_RUS
          O_RUS 29 October 2013 17: 22
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Sorry, and who will be to blame for this?


          as usual - Western Ukraine, the G8 and the Gayamer Union.
    2. bif
      bif 29 October 2013 10: 48
      0
      Quote: dobrik10
      And what can this lady give Ukraine if she can theoretically become president ???
      As far as I remember from her past political adventures, she did not commit anything significant to the good of her country, just populism.

      Yulia is a politically played card and she has nowhere to compromise ... so she has nothing to do in politics, but her amnesty for the EU is fundamental ... "As said today by Radoslaw Sikorski, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland, if Tymoshenko's issue is not resolved, Sweden , Great Britain and the Netherlands will not support the association of Ukraine with the European Union "http://thekievtimes.ua/authority/265329-evrointegraciyu-ukrainy-mogut-priostanov
      it-tri-gosudarstva.html
      So Yanukovych will have to release her ...
      1. Stamp
        Stamp 29 October 2013 13: 13
        +3
        Quote: bif
        Julia has a politically played card and she has no further compromise .. so she has nothing to do in politics, but her amnesty for the EU is fundamental.

        Now there is a vertical of power in Ukraine completely controlled by Yanukovych, if Tymoshenko is released it will consolidate the opposition and there will be some balance of power in the political Olympus.
        Moreover, democratic values ​​imposed from the EU are in conflict with the landing of politicians of the highest echelon. The EU’s informal position - if Tymoshenko has sinned, she must answer politically and not criminally - this is the mission of Cox - Kwasniewski conveys to the WFJ.
      2. VARCHUN
        VARCHUN 29 October 2013 17: 46
        -7
        By releasing the rat, he will forever lose the trust of those who still believe in him.
      3. morpex
        morpex 29 October 2013 20: 24
        0
        Quote: bif
        Julia politically waged card

        And this is exactly what Anusovich wanted to achieve! To discredit his main competitor. In fact, no one will be able to stop him from reclining on the throne. I am not a supporter of Yulia, but I think if she comes to power, then a big schukher of all this code, which is now in power, is provided. negative
  5. Fin
    Fin 29 October 2013 09: 49
    +1
    October 21 this year at the Council of the European Union, it was decided to postpone discussion of the issue of signing an association agreement with Ukraine.

    IMHO. The EU is already replaying. Yanyk will make a couple of insignificant statements in favor of the TS and they will start playing according to his rules. This postponement gives him the opportunity to pull out something from the RF as well, such as a loan, default is nearby. Before the 2015 elections, Tymoshenko is deadly for them in any form, except for prison. They lose everything acquired by overwork.
  6. wlad59
    wlad59 29 October 2013 10: 25
    +3
    "... And now the next step in the European game is for Viktor Yanukovych." - the article is generally correct, but the ending is incorrect.
    1. The Minister of Justice has publicly stated that there are no grounds for pardon of Tymoshenko and there will be no pardon.
    2. Yanukovych has publicly stated that he will sign a law on the treatment of CONDEMNED Tymoshenko abroad. (if the Rada adopts such a law)
    So now the return move is for the European Union ... they either agree to sign a free trade zone or not.
  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 29 October 2013 10: 45
    +3
    Yanukovych drove himself into a cesspool with geysintegration ... laughing
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 October 2013 11: 00
      +1
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      Yanukovych drove himself into a cesspool with geysintegration.

      Not men, I’d better work as a janitor or a loader in a store. Everything will be cheaper wassat
  8. komsomolets
    komsomolets 29 October 2013 10: 50
    +4
    Yulia will not go anywhere, will continue to settle down on a comfortable cell in the Kachanovskaya colony, the EU for this reason will not sign anything with Ukraine, you lower the price of gas, remove the thorn on the border, we finally join the TS. Why shout and get nervous in vain.
    1. Luna
      Luna 30 October 2013 01: 16
      0
      A slightly different order - you join the vehicle, we reduce the price of gas. wink

      And about the thorns ukroSMI very much distorted. Then explanations went, but they were of little interest to anyone.

      In an interview with LIGABusinessInform, the press officer of the Lugansk border detachment Vitaly Gordiychuk said that all this is the planned annual engineering equipment of the border. “Nothing new and unusual is happening now,” said the border guard. - Engineering equipment of the border in the most unprotected and dangerous areas is carried out both from the Russian and Ukrainian sides. This is done in order to prevent smuggling, as well as criminals, from crossing the state border. We agreed with the Russians that the work will be staggered. ”

      Strengthening the borders is not only Russia, but also Ukraine. On September 23, the State Land Agency concluded a series of agreements with state specialized enterprises for work related to the demarcation of the borders of Ukraine with Russia and Moldova in the total amount of UAH 9,06 million, writes the “State Procurement Bulletin”. For the demarcation and delimitation of borders with Russia, of this amount, 3,47 million UAH were allocated. Including for demarcation of the border on the Sumy-Bryansk section - 0,50 million UAH, on the Sumy-Kursk section - 0,09 million UAH, on the Chernihiv section - 2,88 million UAH. At the border with Moldova, 4,65 million UAH were allocated. Another 0,94 million UAH was allocated to ensure the functioning and development of the state geodetic network on the western and Russian borders of Ukraine.
      1. komsomolets
        komsomolets 30 October 2013 10: 23
        0
        A slightly different order - you join the vehicle, we lower the price of gas

        Yes, it’s not a question if it were my will, I would also return Crimea back to you.
  9. Bogranz
    Bogranz 29 October 2013 10: 56
    +2
    Wouldn't Tymoshenko, with a positive solution to the issue, forgive Yanukovych for her "wasted years"? It seems to me that one of the two will always sit: if not Yulia, then Janek. All according to the formula of General Lebed: "Two birds cannot live in one cave." Ya. Actually deprived T. of everything "acquired by back-breaking labor" and it is unlikely that Yulia will calm down until she returns what she has lost and answers in kind. The destinies of Ukraine are just scenery in this shadow theater. (IMHO, though).
  10. zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 29 October 2013 11: 08
    13
    And the funniest thing is that Tymoshenko, that Yanukovych are the most ordinary bandits. Only Vitya is a gopnik, and Timokha is closer to professional scammers. As if a caliber higher in the thieves hierarchy.
    Julia's wiring is more sophisticated or something. But Vitya is doing everything simply. Came, saw, took away.
    1. MG42
      MG42 29 October 2013 14: 12
      +3
      Yes, before there was no special choice, now Klitschko 4 days ago said that he was going to the presidency, said from the rostrum of BP >>
      Klitschko said that he is going to the President of Ukraine
      “In order to put an end to all conjectures and attempts to deal with me as a possible candidate, I want to declare: I am running for President,” Klitschko said. As an UNIAN correspondent reports, Klitschko made such a statement from the rostrum of the parliament. He also noted that the events that are currently taking place around him, all provocations are directed against him, as against the rival of the current President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych.

      Read more here: http://www.unian.net/news/601681-klichko-zayavil-chto-budet-ballotirovatsya-v-pr


      ezidentyi-ukrainyi.html
    2. WW3
      WW3 30 October 2013 03: 36
      +1
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      And the funniest thing is that Tymoshenko, that Yanukovych are the most ordinary bandits. Only Vitya is a gopnik, and Timokha is closer to professional scammers. As if a caliber higher in the thieves hierarchy.
      Julia's wiring is more sophisticated or something. But Vitya is doing everything simply. Came, saw, took away

      Reminded this fabulous couple of characteristics.
  11. sergant89
    sergant89 29 October 2013 11: 55
    +3
    Quote: Valery Neonov
    Yanukovych drove himself into a cesspool with geysintegration ... laughing


    Anecdote to the topic: A master plumber with a student comes up to such a filled well as in the photo well, and the master dives into the well with Mr. ** Mr. to look for the cause of the accident, emerges and tells the student:
    -Key on 17 (again goes into the hatch with his head) again emerges
    -Key on 19 (again goes into the hatch with the head) g *** but the level starts to leave the well
    Finally says: HERE SO HERE A SON LEARNING WHILE I ARE ALIVE AND THAT ALL LIFE WILL BE GIVING KEYS yes It seems that Ukraine is being pushed into the same Pit, but without the Keys.
  12. Belogor
    Belogor 29 October 2013 13: 00
    +1
    After Tymoshenko is released and Ukraine joins this association, Yanukovych urgently needs to change his place of residence (country), because the vacated place in the colony will have to take him. Moreover, the conditions of detention will be much worse for him. Tymoshenko and others will never forgive him for this.
    1. Stamp
      Stamp 29 October 2013 13: 20
      +3
      Quote: Belogor
      After Tymoshenko is released and Ukraine joins this association, Yanukovych urgently needs to change his place of residence (country), because the vacated place in the colony will have to take him.

      It's too simple, the fact is that when politicians are released from the zone ahead of schedule, it is not for nothing that they will force them to sign certain pieces of paper. Tymoshenko will not be able to hold office since her convictions will not be removed for 3 years exactly after her release. Recently, Lutsenko was released from the zone ahead of schedule, before landing, he bawled at every show and meeting "a prisoner on a bunk!" in the sense of VFYa, and now he was released walking quieter than water below the grass.
      1. MG42
        MG42 29 October 2013 13: 59
        0
        Here is the first interview of Lutsenko after his release, the truth is in the Ukrainian language, the 5th channel does not show it in any other way very interesting >>
      2. Belogor
        Belogor 29 October 2013 14: 53
        0
        I do not claim that this will happen very quickly, it just seems to me that this will happen with a high probability. If there was a person, there would be an article.
  13. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 29 October 2013 14: 13
    +1
    I think the main message of Russia to Yanukovych today is to prescribe the possibility of terminating the agreement with the EU and let them experiment. It turns out, live, no, try with us. Let there be a real choice.
    1. vikov
      vikov 29 October 2013 14: 25
      -1
      In geopolitics, the experiments were not very good, it was just that Russia indicated its place, Cyprus can be repeated, and Julia is a matter of principle, and these figures have all been written off, because the principles of power formation, as well as control over power, will change and there will be completely different people.
  14. Black
    Black 29 October 2013 15: 21
    +6
    Today is October 29th .... Julia turned on the tube radio ... poured a glass of stark ... sang about BAM ... there are no former Komsomol members ...
  15. dropout
    dropout 29 October 2013 17: 55
    0


    To spite mom’s frostbitten ears!
  16. Vasily Klopkov
    Vasily Klopkov 29 October 2013 18: 47
    +1
    And I have an idea, gentlemen. Tymoshenko must be released, but sent for treatment not to Germany, but to Russia. And Putin treats her there, rides on skis and sledges, maybe even marries her, because he is now a bachelor, and he seemed to like her. I remember asking a question why she was given 7 years. And she might have agreed for gas. lol
    1. Fin
      Fin 29 October 2013 20: 20
      +2
      Quote: Vasily Klopkov
      maybe he’ll even marry her, he’s now a bachelor,

      Yes, of course. She is old. We have enough of our own, young, active.
      1. Vasily Klopkov
        Vasily Klopkov 29 October 2013 20: 27
        +1
        Well, or at least promise. It doesn’t mean marry wassat Yes, in prison, she probably got old, still the difficult conditions of the VIP hospital, a full refrigerator of food. Not every body can stand it.
  17. Strong
    Strong 29 October 2013 19: 41
    +1
    There the whole top.
  18. Klim podkova
    Klim podkova 29 October 2013 20: 07
    +1
    A thief should sit in jail!
    1. MG42
      MG42 29 October 2013 21: 34
      +5
      Quote: Klim Podkova
      A thief should sit in jail!

      And who is not a thief in this country from officials? If he doesn’t steal, then he takes bribes ... kickbacks, etc.
      Which judge lives on a salary? Look at their fleet, Porsche Cayenne or S-Class gelding.
      And the prosecutors of the fleet, maybe they give them interest-free on credit? wassat
  19. Algor73
    Algor73 29 October 2013 21: 01
    +2
    How many different comments, and opposite and not. In my opinion, no one is betting on Tymoshenko. Not work out with her Nelson Mandela. This is a kind of brand, and every politician is interested in her being where she is now, it is very convenient for everyone. Secondly, Europe does not need Ukraine - it will never let it into its house, but wants (by the association) to keep it on a chain, so that it does not go over to Russia. Europe and America are afraid of the revival of the USSR. And so Europe will accept Lady Y. even without freedom. Some people are tired of Ukraine, a very controversial issue. How can you get bored with what you don't have? It would be better to say that they are tired of this fuss of the "Ukrainian politicum" (by the way, know-how) with incomprehensible associations, with incomprehensible benefits and integrations.
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 1 November 2013 09: 04
      0
      Quote: Algor73
      Secondly, Ukraine does not need Ukraine -


      You're wrong.
      Full of options for using the area of ​​the former republic of the USSR.
  20. PavelOPG
    PavelOPG 29 October 2013 21: 42
    +1
    and we in Siberia and with Ami and with Tatars and Jews and other nations and drink and smoke we have fun. we still have the USSR going on
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 29 October 2013 22: 11
    +1
    Yanukovych is facing a dilemma
    release Yu the next day will become a political corpse,
    Do not let out Yu country will remain in the air.
    Most likely, the opinion of local oligarchs will win ......... they really like them in Europe!
  22. cormorant
    cormorant 30 October 2013 01: 35
    +1
    Today, in the decision of the fate of the former Prime Minister of Ukraine, a stage has come when all parties will provoke, bluff and deceive each other, which will finally confuse a difficult situation.

    But how simple the problem is solved ... Yanukovych and Co. with Ukraine join the Customs Union. Tymoshenko sits on. The peoples of Ukraine and Russia are building a common house together. The economy and the welfare of citizens are growing, we go to visit each other without borders ... The EU is drowning in saliva with rage. Happy end! drinks
  23. sha20289145
    sha20289145 30 October 2013 04: 53
    -1
    First of all, you need to get rid of fears!
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 2 November 2013 16: 57
      0
      Quote: sha20289145
      First of all, you need to get rid of fears!


      You need to get rid of the parasites of thieves lazy people and parasites.

      And fears are different.