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The Americans tried, but could not listen to Putin

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The Americans tried, but could not listen to PutinInteresting information gets into the media lately. Who just did not listen to the United States. The newspapers say that 35 heads of state have become targets for listening. Even the closest allies of the United States were on the list of those who are bugged, and therefore humiliate with disbelief.


However, it is much more important for the United States to listen to what President Putin is talking about. Is it possible to imagine that the United States did not even try to listen to the president’s phone? Of course no. The USA tried to listen to the president of Russia many times, however, they could not do it. We will reveal to you some details that did not allow the Americans to listen to President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.

As you know, all the "listened" presidents used ordinary telephones or trunking systems manufactured under license from US and Japanese companies. Here, I must say, there is nothing surprising. US manufacturers easily give up their customers, however, manufacturers in other countries are no better. If readers need an example, then it is on the surface. Siemens and a number of other companies supplied communication equipment to the SFRY. It got to the point that the Yugoslav officers and generals spoke with a certain superiority about the branded supplies of equipment from the best Western campaigns and, in this sense, even looked with some disdain at the "Russian" means of communication.

However, when the time came for the Yugoslav army to defend their country, all communications equipment was turned off, there was no communication between the troops. Western technology brought the Yugoslav army for their own money. That's what you need to constantly remember. Russians never really believed in Western commercial honesty, after stories with the loss of communication in the Yugoslav army, it became obvious - you can not believe anyone. However, did anyone care what Putin said alone with his subordinates? Of course, interested. And not only what Putin says, but also all Soviet and then Russian leaders. It has always interested the West, and Putin was well aware of this.

I remember that in one of his programs, on one’s favorite radio, one of Putin’s leading people cursed Putin for the fact that in order to communicate and maintain a secret encrypted channel, wherever Putin went, a special plane was flying behind him, which then flies there, where Putin sits. The plane just hangs continuously in the air to provide a signal retransmission. You say that is inconvenient and cumbersome? The author will easily agree with you, but recent events very eloquently showed the correctness of Putin, and not his opponents.

The story here is very simple. The USA used the opportunities that cellular communication technology gives them. Getting on the satellite, the signal becomes available for recording from any point on the globe, small settings are enough, and you don’t have to climb into space for them. You can tune the wiretap to one or another channel from the Earth. But this is the salt of the Russian system, that it does not output a signal to the orbital constellation, or, at least, not to the western satellites. The signal passes through the suborbital corridors. These are airplanes and communications ships, in extreme cases, Russian satellites. In addition to this - a special encryption system.

The United States has always made and is making clear and secret attempts to listen to the conversations of the Russian president. Always, wherever the Russian communications aircraft hangs, the US electronic surveillance aircraft hangs next to it. However, are the conversations of the Russian president worth trying to hide them so carefully? Do not forget that these are conversations of the head of a country whose nuclear missiles can reach any country in the world, and who have the guts not only to announce the existence of a mysterious mother-in-law with a boot in the UN, but also to show this, apparently the most terrible, mother to all who will find in themselves the desire to take another Drang nach Osten. That is, Russia is forced to use its own system to preserve its defense capability, independence and identity. However, the United States uses a similar technology, but still using orbital groups. That is, this is not the blissful idea of ​​Putin - it is a question of the country's defense capability, its president and its people.

If it seems to someone that all this is a waste, then the Yugoslav scenario should return such a person to the reality of modern politics. If it seems to someone that no one is going to attack Russia, then such dreams have no real ground. The crisis that exists today in the West happened only thanks to Russia, Putin and those who oppose the United States. By all accounts, Russia should have fallen, and Western banks should have tore Russia into pieces, buying out land for bullshit derivatives, which today are rubbish, but were money before the crisis. But, as they say, Putin happened in Russia. Then all these preparations ended in financial collapse for the West.

Now, realizing that the US and the EU have lost because of Putin, it is possible to understand why the West is grinding its teeth so loudly. If these countries could bomb Russia without a response, they would have done so with a high degree of probability. And for the much smaller sins, Gadhafi and Saddam Hussein lost their lives. Who, tell me, can make indignant at the loss of twenty thousand lives of some Kurds who live in an unknown place, and whether they exist at all - is also in question! Moreover, the components for chemical weapons the United States itself supplied, Europe still provided something. Yes, they would have vanished these Kurds and the whole business. Russia is completely different. The ability to share it, buy and sell dozens of times is a financial event of universal magnitude. The ability to solve two crucial issues with one blow is expensive. To get rid of Russia, as if from the threat of existence to the west, and to profit by selling the lands of the enemy, this is what the West was counting on. By and large, the existence of Russia is a threat to the existence of the Western model of civilization, where someone is necessarily ruled by someone. The Western world is not free.

Remember the USSR, where the “Russian enslavers” lived worse than the enslaved, and the money went to the republic instead of settling in Russia. The Western model of colonial empires does not provide for such a development. The metropolis has always squeezed all the juice from the colonies. A classic example would be the relations of Moldova, within Romania. As it is known, when growing wheat, Moldovans should have given it to landowners and landowners of Romania, and the Moldovans themselves were content with mamaliga. Here you have all the charm of competitive competitiveness, when there are direct laws, the nonfulfillment of which threatens with prison and beating with sticks. Did not pass the wheat - get sticks on the feet and heels. You say that this is a matter of the past? Our present is always on the past.

As you know, before the war, namely in the 1929 year, a great depression broke out in the United States. Its consequences ended immediately before the start of the war, in the 1939 year. So, October 24, in the distant 1929 year, a certain event occurred. Brokers on the stock exchanges began to demand a refund of the purchased bonds. However, here it is necessary, apparently, to clarify something. Then we will talk about "marginal" loans. Margin loans are a way of speculation in which you only pay 10% of the stock value. So, a stake in 1000 dollars will cost you only 100. The meaning of the acquisition is to generate income on the growth of quotations, that is, not owning the shares themselves, you get the opportunity to participate in making money on the fluctuation of the exchange rate, that is, pure speculation. One of the conditions for the acquisition of shares was the obligation to pay the full value of the shares at the request of the broker. These payments began to be demanded by 24 October 1929 brokers of the year, that is, 84 a year ago. There was a cash crisis and a liquidity crisis. That is, the banks did not have cash, and, of course, the value of the shares went down sharply. It happened not only in the USA, but also in Canada, Great Britain, France and Germany.

Although, one of the causes of the Great Depression (VD) is the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act (the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act. Then customs barriers were applied, and the countermeasures caused mirror damage to trading counterparties). However, the problems of the West were not entirely in this. The law came into force only a year after the commencement of the WD, in 1930. West looked at Russia. In the US, a new movement, which was later led by Martin Luther King, matured. All this happened later, 28 August 1963 of the year. All this time, the world has seen the Soviet Union heroically fighting against virtually the entire world, because US companies have also supplied Hitler, and we know this for sure.

The post-war construction projects in the USSR impressed Western society and, most importantly, the same equality of nations, without differences in origin, which America lacked so much, people of different nationalities in the USSR were equal and friendly. In the United States, at this very time, racial segregation still existed. Fueled by the emerging Marxism, the struggle for equality is a culture that has grown up on an understanding of what is happening in the world in general, and in the USSR in particular. It is from here that the roots of what will become the speech of Martin Luther King "I Have a Dream" come. This is where the danger to the United States comes from. This is an example to follow, which, like fire, is feared in the USA.

For the sake of justice, it must be said that not only the authorities or big business are afraid of imitation, ordinary Americans are also afraid of it. It is believed that Americans are the freest nation in the world, it is not even a myth, it is a blatant lie. Politically, Americans are free, because the government frankly does not care about the needs of citizens, but economically, an American is clamped so that to raise his head and look around simply has neither the time nor the opportunity. It is believed that the Americans - a nation without complexes, it is also not. Americans are probably the most notorious nation in the world.

Fear of losing a job, losing retirement savings, being left without a car. These are all real fears, in size, more like phobias. For example, on my trip to the states of New England, populated by the Yankees and Redsocks, I was able to see how critical life was in small towns. Staying without a car there is certain death. Cases are quite real when you need to get to the nearest store, pharmacy or restaurant by 15 car in minutes. There is no way for a pensioner to be left without a car. In a pharmacy for medicines, in a restaurant to eat, the car here is not at all a luxury. Lunch at a restaurant is not at all a whim for an American; cooking at home is much more expensive. Americans know very little about Russia. Whoever says anything, but Russia is a more social state.

Perhaps, in order to show how Russia differs from the United States, the Rossotrudnichestvo agency was founded, headed by Yuri Zaitsev. Founded in 2008, the agency did not cause any complaints, until now, and only now, when the US government anticipates entering into a period of instability, the efforts of the FBI are becoming more aggressive, and the wording more severe. So, Mr. Zaitsev, "it turns out", was engaged in recruiting American citizens. The story here is this. “Rossotrudnichestvo” is a USAID mirror campaign, with the only difference that USAID’s activities are much wider and it received much more money. This means that suspecting Rossotrudnichestvo in recruiting US citizens, American intelligence agencies admit that it was exactly the same thing that the American organization did in Russia. So Putin closed it correctly.

After Putin imposed taxes on those who received funding, USAID stopped working because it started to bring completely opposite results. Instead of inflicting damage on Russia, it would bring profit to the treasury, this is, of course, unacceptable. However, there is one more thing. In the US, they understood the futility of using hamsters, which are ready to chew 24 hours a day, but they will not do anything. If, in addition to all this, we add taxes to the Russian treasury, then this is altogether like a conspiracy of hamsters against the people of America.

As for the real attempts to listen to the phone of the President of Russia, then the story is separate. Everyone remembers that the president of Russia said many times that he does not have a mobile phone. According to information that has repeatedly reached us, the security services do not believe in this and believe that Putin has a “mobile phone”, only he is “made” by some kind of an I.I. Ivanova. For this, the subscriber identification program was launched. All Putin’s public speeches are recorded by the US secret services for the use of audio files to identify subscribers by voice. US intelligence agencies are constantly lining phone traffic around the world, hoping to find at least one word spoken by President Putin, however, so far all is unsuccessful.

Not without speculation. So, according to the assumptions of some individuals, in the west, “divorcing Putin and his wife,” this is also a kind of special operation of the KGB (in the west, they love this particular abbreviation), because Lyudmila Putin always wanted to have a phone with her, this is unacceptable, because You can calculate the location of the Russian president. Divorce is not an act of some kind of nervousness. Not at all. Thanks to this divorce, Putin manages to confuse the trail, what he, I must say, is a great master. Putin is very careful and always observes instructions, as opposed to Yeltsin, who constantly violated them. Here we met something new that psychoanalysts instantly noticed, which also needs to be talked about, but about this another time and in another article.
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  1. domokl
    domokl 28 October 2013 11: 52
    21
    If the Americans couldn’t (which for some reason I’m not very sure of), then this is good. At least, it doesn’t flow here.
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 28 October 2013 12: 00
      87
      Immediately I remembered the story of how Jobs had given Medvedev an Aypad, and that all our "Aypadniks" carried them to meetings ... and not only in Moscow, but also "downstairs" ...
      1. domokl
        domokl 28 October 2013 12: 21
        37
        This love of our ... leaders for electronic foreign toys (including computers) can cost us quite a lot. The FSO needs to control such things very carefully ...
        1. Bronis
          Bronis 28 October 2013 12: 34
          +3
          FSO can control only the federal level, and even then - relatively. "Below" is already difficult.
          1. domokl
            domokl 28 October 2013 12: 37
            +6
            Quote: Bronis
            FSO can control only the federal level, and even then - relatively. "Below" is already difficult.

            There is nothing complicated. Each donkey wears his ears ... At any level of government, there are corresponding departments and departments of the same FSO.
            1. Bronis
              Bronis 28 October 2013 12: 47
              +7
              Yes, but you need to take into account the number of regional and federal officials and the impossibility of full control (in the current realities) of them. In essence, the FSO is responsible for special communications, not personal iPads. On the ground, there are mainly centers for special communications and information (CSSS).
              They control regional officials insofar as they can use this connection. In all other respects - full carte blanche. A year in 37, the issue would be resolved quickly and simply, but now ...
              1. Ivan_Ivanov
                Ivan_Ivanov 28 October 2013 16: 20
                +7
                Free press journalists, bloggers, independent commentators and reviewers convince us at every step that Putin is a foreign agent.

                How, then, to explain that he "confuses the tracks", is encrypted from his (allegedly) "bosses", does not get in touch and is hiding in every possible way?
                (I hope you don’t have to pay attention to sarcasm in my tone ...)
                1. Pilat2009
                  Pilat2009 28 October 2013 22: 14
                  -3
                  Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                  that Putin is a foreign agent.

                  No, he is certainly not an agent. But he does not forget about himself and friends
              2. StolzSS
                StolzSS 28 October 2013 23: 46
                +5
                And you send an article for the disclosure of state secrets to 10 bureaucrats for non-core mobile phones and for 10 years send a settlement to the colony and everyone else will immediately give their iPhones to orphans)))
          2. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 28 October 2013 19: 32
            +8
            There is a staff structure of departments. And cell companies still belong to us. A simple request for mobile operators will provide all the data on the smartphones used. With numbers, dates of purchase and a huge sea of ​​data, uploaded to the public by officials of all levels.
            By the way - excellent selection is obtained! Any official who uses smart, no matter which company, fools by definition. You can not entrust him with any state or commercial secrets. All the same fully applies to pages on social networks.
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 29 October 2013 01: 22
              +5
              I'll tell you a secret ...

              the employees of one very famous office, colloquially called the Heiress, quite calmly use smartphones and have pages on social networks ...

              To be honest, I don’t even know what to call it ...
        2. dagpapik
          dagpapik 28 October 2013 14: 31
          +1
          Well, here you are wrong. there are no fools. Thirst is nothing, but the image is everything
          1. sgv
            sgv 28 October 2013 22: 07
            27
            Good evening ! Of course, I’m not quite in the subject, but I’ll insert my bite into the line. While I was serving in the government communications forces, we worked out each channel for the parameters of the passage of frequencies and attenuation levels. They achieved ideal levels for putting any communication channel to security equipment. If you couldn’t rebuild the channel according to the norms, then you simply couldn’t send it to the ZAS, you wouldn’t receive a single ZASovets channel, I think that even now, before you accept the communication channel, it will be checked so that it won’t show up, but the equipment of secrecy (believe me) will not give a chance to reveal the essence of the conversation on a closed channel for at least a hundred years! I am 100% sure of this! This is still not hell with a carrot, but the Government Communications Troops under the Cheka of the USSR KGB!
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 29 October 2013 01: 24
              +1
              Now other equipment and other features ...
            2. history
              history 31 October 2013 11: 15
              +2
              good Not everything that was done in the USSR was and is bad! It’s time to understand this!
        3. bereg
          bereg 28 October 2013 18: 27
          +6
          Putin has Nokia 3310
      2. varov14
        varov14 28 October 2013 17: 51
        0
        The family is not without fools.
      3. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 28 October 2013 20: 56
        +6
        Quote: Bronis
        Immediately I remembered the story of how Jobs had given Medvedev an Aypad, and that all our "Aypadniks" carried them to meetings ... and not only in Moscow, but also "downstairs" ...


        At the expense of the Chief lover of iPad, I agree with you, but for the rest - the information voiced at meetings in government agencies is not secret. Moreover, all acts of state bodies are subject to MANDATORY posting on the Internet. And then - do you seriously think that a global decision is being made at the meeting? According to the old Russian tradition, 90% of all decisions were always made in smoking rooms. Now, if you listen to them, then ... :)
        1. Bronis
          Bronis 28 October 2013 23: 48
          +4
          Quote: Blackgrifon
          At the expense of the Chief lover of iPad, I agree with you, but for the rest - the information voiced at meetings in government agencies is not secret.

          You are wrong. Meetings are different. And behind closed doors too. and even in civilian departments. Mobilization plans are being discussed and other civil emergency joys. "Above" is jammed, "below" - not always.
          Quote: Blackgrifon
          Moreover, all acts of state bodies are subject to MANDATORY posting on the Internet

          What are you, comrade winked , find an up-to-date and detailed document describing the actions of, say, the Moscow City Hall in the event of a limited nuclear strike in the capital.
          And decisions are not made in smoking rooms, but either at meetings in a very narrow circle, or (which are less important) at good boozes, oh sorry excluded away extended meetings, colleges, etc.
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 29 October 2013 01: 28
            0
            Quote: Bronis
            find an up-to-date and detailed document describing the actions of, say, the Moscow City Hall in the event of a limited nuclear strike in the capital.

            go to the portal of the Moscow City Hall, in the documents section of the 68 Resolutions are related to actions in various emergency situations of peace and war ...
            1. Bronis
              Bronis 29 October 2013 10: 56
              +1
              In the unclassified part ... laughing You can only know. Otherwise, those who hanged would have sat down long ago ... no one has canceled the special production yet. Until now, in the authorities, "little men" are sitting on "secret" (even though in some places their pants are sitting because of the general mess). Believe me ...
      4. APASUS
        APASUS 28 October 2013 21: 33
        -1
        Quote: Bronis
        Immediately I remembered the story of how Jobs had given Medvedev an Aypad, and that all our "Aypadniks" carried them to meetings ... and not only in Moscow, but also "downstairs" ...

        I can assure you all 100 all ipads are checked for tabs, it's not so simple
        1. Bronis
          Bronis 28 October 2013 23: 41
          +3
          Quote: APASUS
          I can assure you all 100 all ipads are checked for tabs, it's not so simple

          The whole range of iPads is not in hypothetical tabs, but in the possibilities of indirect information collection. Google meps and other services, search history and other joy. And about the regional authorities. Believe me, at the level of vice-governors and most heads of constituent entities, there is no talk of any checks on the hardware, unfortunately. But bookmarks are not really needed there. "Indirect" information can be much more important.
      5. avg
        avg 2 November 2013 18: 50
        +1
        I immediately remembered the story of how Jobs Aypad gifted Medvedev

        Scene from Faust
    2. Field
      Field 28 October 2013 12: 30
      +5
      Interestingly, a LADY with his iPhone and iPad, and a whole bunch of growing. officials with iPads and strongly "serious" persons at meetings, listening to tracking?
      1. domokl
        domokl 28 October 2013 12: 38
        +5
        Quote: Field
        Interestingly, a LADY with his iPhone and iPad, and a whole bunch of growing. officials with iPads and strongly "serious" persons at meetings, listening to tracking?

        The question is rhetorical. Would you, if possible, not do this? And all these toys perfectly give such an opportunity ...
        1. Bronis
          Bronis 28 October 2013 12: 50
          +2
          Who will directly say bully !
          Most likely, it was possible to take some information about movements, preferences and preferences from the LADIES 'glasses. However, in "decent institutions" (even a civilian profile) there are jammers ... Even a wireless mouse cannot be connected ...
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 28 October 2013 19: 36
            +2
            So what? The smartphone accumulates data, sending them after the appearance of the network. There is little sense from jammers ...
        2. Field
          Field 28 October 2013 14: 55
          0
          Quote: domokl
          The question is rhetorical.
        3. fedorovith
          fedorovith 28 October 2013 19: 12
          +1
          At meetings, they play toys because a complete jammer is provided. Try to turn on the phone when a motorcade of 1 persons is passing by, the mobile phone will turn off before the cars are approaching.
      2. Charon
        Charon 28 October 2013 19: 56
        -1
        Nobody needs their fucking secrets.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 29 October 2013 01: 31
          +1
          Quote: Charon
          Nobody needs their fucking secrets.


          yeah, Merkel’s secrets seem to be more secret, since they’re listening to her bully
      3. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 29 October 2013 01: 30
        +1
        I think that DAM in a couple of hours passed this unit to the special police wink
    3. Per se.
      Per se. 28 October 2013 12: 43
      20
      Quote: domokl
      Though somewhere does not flow with us.
      Safe, where the old KGB defense system remained, with "Kremlin turntables".
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 28 October 2013 16: 19
        +4
        Quote: Per se.
        Quote: domokl
        Though somewhere does not flow with us.
        Safe, where the old KGB defense system remained, with "Kremlin turntables".


        This is not a Kremlin pinwheel. This is a device from a military high-frequency tephon network, it also works in a regular network, only worse is heard.
        1. Witch
          Witch 28 October 2013 17: 27
          +3
          Quote: Geisenberg
          This is not a Kremlin pinwheel. This is a device from a military high-frequency tephon network, it also works in a regular network, only worse is heard.


          And on a regular telephone network, it works perfectly; experience has been convinced of this for several years ....
        2. Per se.
          Per se. 28 October 2013 21: 08
          +7
          Quote: Geisenberg
          This is not a Kremlin pinwheel.
          The photo shows an ordinary Polish telephone set "Astra", simply, the dialer is decorated with a coat of arms. "Kremlin spinner" is a figurative concept, which included a whole system of protected government communication lines, from "quartz boxes" to telephones, armored cables under pressure, shielded devices, to special equipment and specially guarded nodes and direct communication lines. Judging by the stories from the media, our top management is not in a hurry to change the old devices of the Soviet era for new system phones with consoles from foreign firms.
      2. Altona
        Altona 28 October 2013 17: 50
        +3
        This is a regular phone, just shielded from the inside, most likely graphite ... And it works like a regular one ... A regular phone for senior army officials until the 80s ... At least I, as a former ZASovets, do not consider this the device is somehow a masterpiece ...
      3. Altona
        Altona 28 October 2013 18: 00
        +4
        If the memory is not lost, then most likely this device is from the P-170 family ... A solid status gizmo ... laughing
        1. svp67
          svp67 28 October 2013 18: 03
          +2
          Quote: Altona
          If the memory is not lost, then most likely this device is from the P-170 family ... A solid status gizmo ...

          Bearing the proud name "Whispered ...", but where is he to the naval "Titan ..."
        2. Colonel
          Colonel 28 October 2013 20: 53
          +1
          No, P 170 is different. Here is P 171. P 170 too, but without a dialer. And this device from the "Tier" system has nothing to do with the ZAS.
          1. Altona
            Altona 28 October 2013 23: 07
            +1
            Maybe ... The design is similar ...
      4. bif
        bif 28 October 2013 20: 51
        +5
        Quote: Per se.
        Safe, where the old KGB defense system remained, with "Kremlin turntables".

        The less digital technology. the protection is more reliable ..
    4. Alez
      Alez 28 October 2013 13: 36
      25
      Instead of a mobile phone, Putin’s courier with a paper bag has a Russian analogue of SMS. There is also a wired telephone without a keyboard with a red double-headed eagle. Putin picks up the phone and says, Young lady, connect me with Defense Minister Shoigu. The young lady responded to him, did not pick up the phone, he was on the exercises, running SMS ran and he would call you back soon.
      1. Field
        Field 28 October 2013 14: 59
        +1
        Seriously, that is, pipes with crypto-protection are served from the "big three". Used by government officials, the military and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 28 October 2013 19: 43
        +9
        Forgot to mention - SMS-ku is shot every time for reasons of secrecy and a new one is called. Actually, the swamp vehicles were going in vain. Those they yearn to free are spent on "be late", "be late" and "buy bread and a German chancellor"
    5. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 28 October 2013 14: 00
      +5
      Quote: domokl
      If the Americans failed (for some reason I’m not very sure)it means it’s good. Although somewhere does not flow with us.


      well and in vain.

      The Germans, too, hide from wiretapping, just ruined naivety. how - the best friends of the whiskers !!!!
    6. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 28 October 2013 16: 13
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      If the Americans couldn’t (which for some reason I’m not very sure of), then this is good. At least, it doesn’t flow here.


      Your uncertainty is the result of a lack of understanding of modern communications and encryption.

      A conversation on a cell phone is a set of code packets at different frequencies, encrypted in a certain way. This is not an open two-way channel at a fixed frequency, or in a wire as in the case with terrestrial telephone communications. For the layman there is no way to listen to the cell.

      So the state connection will be different from the usual cellular as well as cellular from a wired telephone.

      I don’t think that specialists have grown up in America who can figure out our encryption, all these specialists are born here, and thank God they live with us ...
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 28 October 2013 19: 53
        +3
        All this is true, but these wonderful code messages all the same turn into a stupid photo and the text "look, how is it painted !!". So you just need to sit not on the air, but with a cellular operator in a server. That's about encryption - that's true ... True, there used to be wonderful, purely altruistic projects, such as "provide the power of your computer for decryption." Now these projects are like a cow licking their tongue. But this, of course, is not because it has long been possible to "provide the power" of any number of computers in the network for their own purposes, without notifying the users about it. So the powers of our enemies are almost limitless. And the strength, it aches the straw ...
        1. Lomikus
          Lomikus 28 October 2013 20: 38
          +1
          Quote: Mikhail3
          But this, of course, is not because it has long been possible to "provide the power" of any number of computers in the network for their own purposes, without notifying the users about it.

          What is it like???
          1. biznaw
            biznaw 28 October 2013 22: 49
            -1
            Have you been born and raised from the moon or in Egypt?
          2. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 29 October 2013 01: 39
            +3
            Quote: Lomikus
            What is it like???


            the computer is infected with a data packet that can then be used for various purposes, for example, for DOSS attacks or for decryption, or for other pleasant things ...
            1. fennekRUS
              fennekRUS 29 October 2013 09: 58
              +2
              moreover, a fair amount of computers are tied to a botnet. and you don’t have to be seven spans to do this. the amount of spam and advertising, proof of that
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 29 October 2013 13: 25
                0
                Quote: fennekRUS
                moreover, a fair amount of computers are tied to a botnet.


                this is just from the category of "pleasant" little things ...
            2. Lomikus
              Lomikus 29 October 2013 10: 24
              0
              Quote: DanaF1
              the computer is infected with a data packet that can then be used for various purposes, for example, for DOSS attacks or for decryption, or for other pleasant things ...

              Well, first you need to infect. And then ... You need to download the data, you need to upload the result, you need high-speed Internet, a place on your computer and a user who cares why his computer hangs and the Internet does not work? And massively. I’m wondering how to use someone else’s computer to decrypt the data, even if it is downloaded at 50% and not aroused the user's suspicion?
              To send spam a lot of space and computer resources are not necessary, and then modern antivirus programs successfully deal with this.
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 29 October 2013 13: 21
                +5
                the package is not big and inconspicuous ...
                I, as a simple user, with a user antivirus program, I don’t even detect it ...
                but it all works like a torrent, only without your participation ...

                By the way, who will guarantee that with the movie downloaded from the torrent, you did not download this package, which is wired into the movie itself?
                1. Lomikus
                  Lomikus 29 October 2013 15: 10
                  0
                  Thank you, we will know.
    7. atalef
      atalef 28 October 2013 21: 04
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      If the Americans couldn’t (which for some reason I’m not so sure) then this is good

      I am absolutely sure that they admitted this openly by sending SMS to soap and published in all newspapers.
      We wanted, but could not. They listened to everyone, but not here crying (I’m not saying what they’ve listened to) But actually, someone turns on the brain. WHO IS RECOGNIZED IN THIS?
  2. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 28 October 2013 11: 52
    21
    Putin old scout
    1. AVV
      AVV 28 October 2013 12: 58
      +3
      What can’t be said about LADY! And they all listen to him in a row !!!
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 28 October 2013 13: 26
        +9
        There’s nothing to listen to
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 28 October 2013 15: 59
          +8
          Quote: ivshubarin
          There’s nothing to listen to


          There is probably something else - for those who listen, the desire is only for him to shut up as soon as possible.
        2. ksan
          ksan 29 October 2013 14: 20
          0
          ivshubarin RU Yesterday, 13:26 ↑

          There’s nothing to listen to
          Nah smile There are a lot of things, only no one will understand what he wanted, and even more confuse everything smile It has its own "Road Map", "innovative", in general, more than one decryptor will not understand. fellow
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 28 October 2013 21: 29
        -2
        Found WHAT to listen to!
      3. alone
        alone 28 October 2013 22: 04
        +2
        Quote: AVV
        What can’t be said about LADY! And they all listen to him in a row !!!


        the more they listen, the more porridge is transformed in their head. When I listen to Medvedev, I sometimes remember the humpback-labeled. One and the same style: a lot of words and no specifics.
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      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 28 October 2013 21: 33
        +2
        Quote: Starina_Hank
        the great Poo's kiss on the lips that do not speak Flemish

        Bravo m-me Starina_Hank! Be the first one (s)! Perhaps Sh. De Coster was read in the original?
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  3. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol 28 October 2013 11: 57
    12
    I suppose that we have several samples of top-secret communications and maybe some of them are already in use. But it is not very soon that all the structures in need will be equipped with them. Just as perfumes in Afghanistan hit our frequencies, they will now hit on occasion. They have very good scientists, but very economical politicians (they cannot save on themselves). So I'm not surprised that the GDP could not be heard. And if they could, then I think the next eleven years, we still do not know about it.
    1. domokl
      domokl 28 October 2013 12: 23
      +6
      Quote: d1m1drol
      But it is not very soon that all the structures in need will be equipped with them.

      This communication is ensured and working flawlessly so far. We are just behind the usual means of communication ...
    2. Aryan
      Aryan 28 October 2013 12: 38
      +9
      "However, was anyone interested in what Putin said in private with his subordinates? Of course, they were interested."
      Yes, he just covers his boyars with a three-story, untranslatable Russian mat laughing

      "The US intelligence services are constantly filing telephone traffic all over the world, hoping to find at least one word spoken by President Putin, nevertheless, so far all is unsuccessful."

      and who is stopping us from "helping" the Merikats and transmitting pieces of speeches from the GDP among themselves via mobile phones?
      Fuck theirs servants once again warm the earthly atmosphere
      we will at least know the true cause of global warming
      bully
      1. jjj
        jjj 29 October 2013 02: 06
        +1
        And you will not believe with what ingenuity, humor and twinkle it is made by inconspicuous at first glance, but serious people
    3. alexng
      alexng 28 October 2013 12: 44
      +7
      Even if they had listened, they would have received only one nameless "krakozyaby". The encryption systems today are so perfect that even with the encryption algorithm itself, it is impossible to crack the cipher without a key, especially since the key is constantly changing. The binomial is so large that it takes 1 to the XX power years to sort through the options, when spending 10 millisecond for each option. And this is not realistic, even for the super-duper computer itself, or even for such computers.
      1. Sobol
        Sobol 28 October 2013 19: 43
        +2
        So that’s why they began to stir up the Human Brain Project, so that they could crack ciphers in a faster way
    4. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 28 October 2013 14: 08
      +1
      Quote: d1m1drol
      And if they could, then I think the next eleven years, we still do not know about it.



      Not! they will decrypt in eleven years what they wrote down
  4. I do not care
    I do not care 28 October 2013 12: 00
    27
    Computers on punch cards, lamp radars, a flag communication system, and many other various surprises awaits adversaries in the Russian land. Putin nae ... t-abalka has not grown.
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 28 October 2013 13: 42
      16
      Joke on the topic:
      Competition is announced between computer manufacturers from different countries. Russia also decided to participate in the testing and put out its computer.
      A series of tests has gone and everything is in SHOCK - The Russian computer furnishes everyone with most parameters and deadlines.
      In short, they were furnished. Well, then the representatives of the countries began to say, let the experts come to your "miracle", what have you thought up there, maybe all our best is there.
      Admitted. One comes up, looks at the insides, looks at the processor in a microscope and then falls unconscious! Doctors ran up, carried away, trying to bring to life.
      The second expert comes up - the same story! The third one went. He looked at everything, swayed, but did not lose consciousness. All to him, well, what is there with them?
      Answers - They have a processor on LAMPS !!!

      Listen, listen to Putin, maybe you will hear when he whistles over your head!
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 28 October 2013 23: 20
      +4
      Only a person who does not know anything about Russian electronics can say this. Example. At the factory where I worked, they made flat-panel monitors for nuclear submarines when the World knew nothing about them, neither the Japanese nor the Americans. It was Soviet military technology! The Americans thought up the first transistors, microcircuits, but they were primitive. In the USSR, they developed their elemental base at military enterprises, based on American ones. It is a pity only in the national economy these developments were not. And the computing systems of the Ryad series were ahead of American computers. And only academics who visited America decided that their IBM series is somehow better!
  5. Goodmen
    Goodmen 28 October 2013 12: 02
    +6
    ".... So, according to the assumptions of some people, in the West," Putin's divorce from his wife "is also some kind of special operation of the KGB ..." - neighing)))))

    Well, the article is good))))) In government communications, not suckers work and understand what's what))))) It pleases !!!
  6. shark
    shark 28 October 2013 12: 02
    10
    But what's the point? the connection has not leaked - a corrupt official will leak. It is necessary to change all the people in power
    1. alexng
      alexng 28 October 2013 12: 52
      +3
      So what? Even if it leaks somewhere. something, at some time interval, and what? Keys will change and business. And this will be done by the "machine". The whole point is that such a system cannot be opened even by the creators of this badyagi. So "moles" of all stripes go through the forest.
      1. roial
        roial 28 October 2013 14: 33
        +1
        The whole trick is that such a system can not be opened even by the creators of this grub.


        Taunted however. The keys themselves are secret, having BOTH keys on hand + an encrypted message, then opening the transfer will not be difficult.

        And this will be done by the "automatic machine"


        Keys are entered manually by TWO people, each has its own key.
        1. Aryan
          Aryan 28 October 2013 22: 51
          +1
          in short from your opinions, as I understand it
          what’s easier to hack Putin than his phone bully
        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 28 October 2013 23: 24
          +2
          You probably know about the "friend or foe" identification system on airplanes. The Americans have never been able to crack this system. And it had to be changed when the traitor overtook the MiG-25 to Japan.
    2. ksan
      ksan 29 October 2013 14: 35
      +1
      shark RU Yesterday, 12:02

      But what's the point? the connection has not leaked - a corrupt official will leak. It is necessary to change all the people in power
      On whom??? Still on some bawlers "who care about the good" of the people ??? It is not necessary to change the people "in power" but the structure of this very power and a rigid system of responsibility for the decisions made (or not taken). "the degree of responsibility must be raised to at least 40" (D.A. Medvedev).
  7. svp67
    svp67 28 October 2013 12: 04
    +6
    However, are the talks of the Russian president worth trying to hide so carefully?
    Worth, very EXPENSIVE. First of all, for the citizens of Russia ... Therefore, the appearance, and most importantly the open use of the "Ogryzok" LADIES at all meetings, not only at least not patriotic, but also not reasonable. Although, of course, the specialists worked with this gadget, but wouldn't it have been better to do everything so that in our country there would be technology comparable in its qualities, some kind of "Ray" then for the safety of communication lines, especially government ones, one could worry less ...
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 28 October 2013 12: 18
      +1
      But wouldn't it have been better to do everything so that in our country there would be a technique comparable in its qualities, some kind of "Ray" then and for the safety of communication lines, especially government ones, one could worry less ...

      Here it is necessary to divide
      1 pieces of iron. Currently unrealistic or the price will be extremely equine
      2 Data channels and encryption. Everything is fine here. As with backbone providers. So do the military.
    2. Dimented
      Dimented 28 October 2013 13: 09
      +1
      Guys, what are you talking about ?! If in ordinary schools on these average ... x USE they put "jammers", then really at the meeting at the top officials of the state there are no normal systems of protection against eavesdropping? Yes, let them watch on TV and hope to hear something, at the moment it's just a toy. And do not forget that those who shoot them with cameras for TV can also have at least 5 iPhones. But what happens behind closed doors is a different story.
  8. zvereok
    zvereok 28 October 2013 12: 06
    10
    However, when the time came for the Yugoslav army to defend its country, all communication equipment turned off, there was no communication between the troops.


    08 / 08 / 08 command of the troops over the cell and the conclusion made by Nedimon that communications need to be modernized. The trouble is that if Nedimon takes something, then the idea is doomed to failure.

    PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
    1. domokl
      domokl 28 October 2013 12: 29
      +2
      You confuse the types of communications. Government communications are somewhat different than regular communications. Despite the fact that in 09 the company couldn’t contact the platoon, the generals communicated well with Moscow.
      1. Evgenx
        Evgenx 28 October 2013 12: 40
        +5
        I myself have served my entire service in the PS system. Until this connection was killed by the "reformers": the secrets of the country are LOCKED, and turn it to be not just LOUD words !!!
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 28 October 2013 23: 30
          +1
          I willingly believe you, because I know that if the enemies knew our secrets, then long ago they would disorganize the strategic troops or make unauthorized launches for other purposes. And Russia would already be destroyed as an enemy of the whole World. And we could not answer with a retaliatory nuclear strike.
    2. svp67
      svp67 28 October 2013 12: 31
      +9
      Quote: zvereok
      but when will they put Serdyukov?

      In the next "chair"? Three years later ...
    3. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 28 October 2013 14: 16
      +1
      They creep necessarily, but only when - a rhetorical question. what
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 28 October 2013 18: 13
        +2
        probably not when, but where ..
    4. I do not care
      I do not care 28 October 2013 18: 12
      0
      VIP unfinished as they finish building - just beacon. stop
    5. alone
      alone 28 October 2013 22: 05
      0
      Quote: zvereok
      PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?


      never! witnesses are not being jailed!
  9. kafa
    kafa 28 October 2013 12: 08
    10
    YES eavesdrop eavesdropped words decrypted. UNDERSTAND ABOUT belay
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 28 October 2013 12: 13
      +2
      Americans practiced the language of the Indians during the war with Japan, no one except the Indians understood it
    2. svp67
      svp67 28 October 2013 12: 37
      +5
      Quote: kafa
      YES eavesdrop eavesdropped words decrypted. UNDERSTAND ABOUT

      Like - "They guessed all the letters, but they couldn't read the word ..." wink
    3. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 28 October 2013 14: 18
      +2
      The great and powerful impurity of the mat is insurmountable for the adversary.
      1. svp67
        svp67 28 October 2013 16: 50
        +1
        Quote: Black Colonel
        The great and powerful impurity of the mat is insurmountable for the adversary.

        Alas, this is no longer the case. There "our former people" are already enough, so that they understand ... and without translators.
      2. jjj
        jjj 29 October 2013 02: 10
        +1
        During the years of World War II, the Germans also could not understand the intercepted radiograms transmitted with errors
  10. Sunjar
    Sunjar 28 October 2013 12: 08
    +1
    The most important orders are transmitted either in writing in duplicate (one to themselves, the other to whom they entrust something) or generally orally. What is transmitted through paper is worn by special couriers who know their job.
    If I were Putin, I would also not use the telephone, let alone the Internet, for important negotiations, orders, decisions. In reality, there are many ways to intercept this kind of information. Putin, as a former KGB officer, understands this very well. One of the variants of wiretapping in the president's office is a "bug" installed there or something like that. But it is unlikely that the Americans would be able to do this.
  11. andr1966a
    andr1966a 28 October 2013 12: 11
    +5
    What a clever Putin-he confused everyone
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 28 October 2013 23: 33
      +1
      This is not Putin, this is the rule of secrecy in the special services. Do you think that ours is so easy to listen to Obama? not sure!
  12. Humen
    Humen 28 October 2013 12: 12
    +1
    Quote: Sunjar
    In Putin’s place, I would also not use the telephone, much less the Internet, for important negotiations, orders, and decisions.


    To do this, there is a Bear who loves all these things very much.
    1. alexng
      alexng 28 October 2013 13: 00
      +5
      Quote: Humen
      To do this, there is a Bear who loves all these things very much.


      Yeah! AY-PAULA still that ...
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 28 October 2013 23: 36
      +1
      Have you seen how they use phones? But Medvedev, in addition to photos and the name of unclassified events, does not give out anything on his iPad.
  13. Pit
    Pit 28 October 2013 12: 14
    15
    I recall a joke:
    The play, in the middle of the act, there is a wild cry from the audience.
    “Is there a doctor here !?” Is there a doctor in the hall !?
    Gets up alone
    - I am a doctor
    - Colleague, what the fuck are they showing us ?!

    This article has caused similar feelings.
    I did not understand what she was talking about !!!
    Tolley is about special connection of GDP, or about the great depression, or about the fact that they quietly hate us in the West.
    Colleagues, what have I just read !?
    (I don’t put a minus, just because the author still tried and wrote something)
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 28 October 2013 14: 21
      0
      This, dear forum member, is only the preface to the article. the author clearly indicated that the continuation follows.
    2. Asgard
      Asgard 28 October 2013 14: 51
      0
      I rarely put it, but I put a minus article.
      I rarely read a similar hu..nyu))))
      "Liberals-Judas" passed everything, the wiretapping system at the embassy (Bakatin himself))
      Secrets of the military-industrial complex in joint ventures ...
      At the BZHRK (until Putin cut them)) there were GPS beacons
      I won’t be surprised if they stand on the Combat Units of Strategic missiles (because the Americans boasted that they could tell the warhead from the simulator))
      Computer technologies are being introduced into the Troops without any "element base!" For example, "Andromeda" command and control uses Getac A790 Taiwan company Getac Technology. in which they found the BIOS code wired in BIOS and thousands of them were bought by the troops ..... And they use it for a long time, MVK-1 is an abbreviation on the panel)))) http://www.rodnik.ru/product/spa/nout / getac / a790 / A790Brochure_RU

      201104
      28.pdf

      About the president’s wife neighing. Vovik announced the year of his family and divorced)))))
      he’s funny and absolutely inaudible))))))
      Not a man, but an agent of the KGB, the president who grew out of the head of the club with an agent nickname "mole" .....
      Yes, the level of education among the military has fallen too, since they don’t see obvious things and press the pluses when mentioning the first two letters of the PU))))))))
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 28 October 2013 17: 27
        +3
        Quote: Asgard
        Vovik announced the year of his family and divorced)))))

        The year of the family was declared 08th, 13th - the year of protection of ecology and the environment.

        The rest is generally true wink
      2. ksan
        ksan 29 October 2013 15: 33
        0
        I also rarely put it, but I put Asgard minus.
        At the BZHRK (until Putin cut them)) there were GPS beacons
        Lighthouses were erected under Gorbat, and trains were "cut" under Yeltsin (and fixed in the contract), and "under Putin" there was talk that it would be nice to revive them again.
        I won’t be surprised if they stand on the Combat Units of Strategic missiles (because the Americans boasted that they could tell the warhead from the simulator))
        Do not overestimate the American "EVERYTHING", they boasted and threatened a lot (Global missile defense, SDI), but in fact it turned out to be bullshit.
        Computer technologies are being introduced into the Troops without any "element base!" For example, "Andromeda" command and control of troops uses Getac A790 of the Taiwanese company Getac Technology. In which they found the program code hardwired into BIOS and thousands of them were purchased in the troops ..... And wait they use them - MVK-1 abbreviation on the panel))))
        I don’t understand why you are happy: That we do not have enough of our element base, or that ours have found the "hard-coded BIOS code" ?? Yes element base while its not enough, but all "control" programs are written with us, and all imported "electronics" are checked for the presence of "tabs" and "firmware"
        About the president’s wife neighing. Vovik announced the year of his family and divorced)))))
        He didn’t divorce in the year of his family, and I don’t think that someone’s divorce (tragedy in principle) can cause fun.
        he’s funny and absolutely inaudible))))))
        Here I did not understand the scream at all ??? Who is "funny and absolutely not audible ha ha ha ????
        Not a man, but an agent of the KGB, the president who grew out of the head of the club with an agent nickname "mole" .....
        Yes, the level of education among the military has fallen too, since they don’t see obvious things and press the pluses when mentioning the first two letters of the PU))))))))
        Well, here in general it says "no comment". "Not a man, but an agent of the KGB" - is that not compatible things ??? "Stupid military" who, without Asgard, cannot "see the obvious" and at the sight of two letters PU "press +" when you need to laugh out loud like him. You are not stoned Vladimir ??
  14. klimpopov
    klimpopov 28 October 2013 12: 17
    +6
    But Dimka has an iPhone that is EXACTLY not tapped by the United States))))))
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 28 October 2013 13: 11
      0
      Quote: klimpopov
      But Dimka has an iPhone that is EXACTLY not tapped by the United States))))))

      Quite likely, our "experts" have "poked" in the "gift filling" what , because proceeding from the elementary logic and the sense of self-preservation, such "things" are imperceptible for the FSB and FSO services, counterintelligence cannot pass ...
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 28 October 2013 13: 29
        +4
        So this hat does everything through their server anyway. No other way. Even when it turns on, it asks for a sim and an Internet connection in order to contact the owners. So poking around, not poking around ... I don’t think Dima’s jail did it)))))
  15. Ross
    Ross 28 October 2013 12: 18
    +2
    Quote: Bronis
    Immediately I remembered the story of how Jobs had given Medvedev an Aypad, and that all our "Aypadniks" carried them to meetings ... and not only in Moscow, but also "downstairs" ...

    A similar thought, how a little child bought himself!
  16. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 28 October 2013 12: 25
    +3
    Do not take Russian Vanka with your bare hands. There are a thousand exits for every puzzle.
  17. ParapaPanda
    ParapaPanda 28 October 2013 12: 29
    +2
    + 1. It is not clear what the article is about.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 28 October 2013 12: 34
      0
      All that their traps know that Putin worked for a reason in the KGB
  18. Soviet_Union
    Soviet_Union 28 October 2013 12: 32
    +4
    Quote: kafa
    YES eavesdrop eavesdropped words decrypted. UNDERSTAND ABOUT

    laughing guessed all the letters but could not name the word laughing
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 28 October 2013 17: 30
      +2
      Quote: Soviet_Union
      Quote: kafa
      YES eavesdrop eavesdropped words decrypted. UNDERSTAND ABOUT

      guessed all the letters but could not name the word

      And then you see horseradish laughing
  19. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 28 October 2013 12: 37
    +2
    Mail pigeons should be used, there is nothing to feed any ANS.
  20. Ihrek
    Ihrek 28 October 2013 12: 43
    +4
    "We could not listen to Putin" - a trifle but nice.
  21. Polovec
    Polovec 28 October 2013 12: 48
    +3
    I agree with the author 100%! America today is "ABSOLUTE EVIL"! And we have to confront them. We need to prepare. We must start by eliminating corruption. Hussein was not defeated. It was sold. So they will sell us. We must abandon the moratorium on the death penalty.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 28 October 2013 14: 24
      0
      And why the death penalty. Surgical intervention in personal life (sexual) will be an analogue of capital punishment.
  22. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 28 October 2013 12: 49
    -2
    By all accounts, Russia should have fallen, and Western banks should already have torn Russia to pieces, buying out land for bullshit derivatives, which today are garbage, but before the crisis they were money. But, as is already customary to say, Putin happened in Russia

    Article plus! Is messy a bit and yet ..
    and try to read the last name "Putin" on the contrary and everything will become clear))))
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 28 October 2013 21: 50
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      try to read the name "Putin"

      Put in - action (depending on the attached phrase).
      My translation: put it here.
      Pooting - concentration, concentration
  23. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 28 October 2013 12: 53
    +1
    Quote: Standard Oil
    Mail pigeons should be used, there is nothing to feed any ANS.

    then the Americans will develop a new type of weapon - the pigeon interceptor will be called.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 28 October 2013 14: 43
      +2
      And it would be something to develop ... a hunting falcon is called
  24. alexng
    alexng 28 October 2013 12: 58
    +2
    Quote: Humen


    To do this, there is a Bear who loves all these things very much.


    Yeah! AI PADLA is still one!
  25. Kelnot
    Kelnot 28 October 2013 13: 00
    +6
    "We will arrange a goat's face for you all" ....
  26. Kelnot
    Kelnot 28 October 2013 13: 00
    -1
    "We will arrange a goat's face for you all" ....
  27. makarov
    makarov 28 October 2013 13: 01
    +6
    SW Author.
    Of course I understand slogans like: "And we", "And they", etc ...
    I don’t understand only one thing, will they really make a statement in case of eavesdropping on the GDP by Americans, they say what kind of eagles we are all-consuming (?)
    And I would like in more detail about the fact of listening attempts, and how it was suppressed. And so, the material turns out to be just a calming infa for people, they say, "do not be afraid, we are on guard"
  28. shinobi
    shinobi 28 October 2013 13: 12
    +2
    The author is well done, he tried, but the article came out chaotic. In the novel "TASS is authorized to declare" Yu. Semyonov, through the mouth of a CIA agent, said well: There are very few secrets in this world that cannot be figured out.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 28 October 2013 13: 17
      +2
      Quote: shinobi
      The author is well done, he tried, but the article came out chaotic

      I was also somewhat disappointed, I thought the author would share a bit of technical information and "live examples", Alas ... request
  29. rodevaan
    rodevaan 28 October 2013 13: 14
    +7
    Quote: makarov
    The crisis that exists today in the West happened only thanks to Russia, Putin and those who oppose the United States. By all accounts, Russia should have fallen, and Western banks should already have torn Russia to pieces, buying out land for bullshit derivatives, which today are garbage, but before the crisis they were money. But, as is already customary to say, Putin happened in Russia. Further, all these preparations ended in a financial collapse for the West.


    - I don't think that everyone here took it straight and laid out all the trump cards available in the FSB's antiproslushki plan. Even if someone knows something about it, he is unlikely to state it, since the security officials have their own "female secrets."
    As one naval officer once said to me (and he was absolutely right) - "You know, if we really had nothing, no strength and ability to keep all of them in the West on a short leash - believe me, Russia It would not have existed for a long time. There are and have been forces and opportunities that work only for the country. It's just that no one advertises them and will not advertise them. "
    I agree with that.
  30. mountain
    mountain 28 October 2013 13: 18
    +6
    Here I read the verbal diarrhea of ​​some scribbler. And I wonder if you are stupid, or you just don’t see your country.
    Ask yourself why they still haven’t crushed us. And how much money is needed for Russia to remain within its borders? We have not yet learned how to comb, like Americans and Europe, but we are learning. So far this is the only thing we are losing.
    1. rodevaan
      rodevaan 2 November 2013 10: 28
      0
      Quote: mountain
      Here I read the verbal diarrhea of ​​some scribbler. And I wonder if you are stupid, or you just don’t see your country.
      Ask yourself why they still haven’t crushed us. And how much money is needed for Russia to remain within its borders? We have not yet learned how to comb, like Americans and Europe, but we are learning. So far this is the only thing we are losing.


      - It's only for now. In the 41st, we, too, were absent, and how it all ended in the end is well known to everyone. A Russian man harnesses for a long time, and everyone knows well how he drives.
  31. individual
    individual 28 October 2013 13: 27
    +3
    I recall the statements of analysts who stated that US electronic intelligence could not intercept the command of Russian generals to the troops during the Georgian aggression in South Ossetia.
    Relocation and movement of troops was carried out by FLAGS.
    The most sophisticated chip does not cope with a wave of the flag indicating the action ...
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 28 October 2013 21: 52
      +1
      Don't get carried away with reading Rezunov's "Icebreaker".
  32. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 28 October 2013 13: 30
    +3
    Just at that moment Putin was listening to Barak ... laughing
  33. Migari
    Migari 28 October 2013 13: 36
    0
    The good news, thanks to Snowden, the whole world learned that American ears are everywhere, and what an annoyance the NSA apparently had when they could not overhear Putin's most important "partner". Although communications in our troops are still not good, as shown by the last exercises, in this case our specialists were at their best.
  34. mountain
    mountain 28 October 2013 13: 37
    +2
    Quote: rodevaan
    Quote: makarov
    The crisis that exists today in the West happened only thanks to Russia, Putin and those who oppose the United States. By all accounts, Russia should have fallen, and Western banks should already have torn Russia to pieces, buying out land for bullshit derivatives, which today are garbage, but before the crisis they were money. But, as is already customary to say, Putin happened in Russia. Further, all these preparations ended in a financial collapse for the West.


    - I don't think that everyone here took it straight and laid out all the trump cards available in the FSB's antiproslushki plan. Even if someone knows something about it, he is unlikely to state it, since the security officials have their own "female secrets."
    As one naval officer once said to me (and he was absolutely right) - "You know, if we really had nothing, no strength and ability to keep all of them in the West on a short leash - believe me, Russia It would not have existed for a long time. There are and have been forces and opportunities that work only for the country. It's just that no one advertises them and will not advertise them. "
    I agree with that.

    Not only I agree, but I’m sure that we don’t even know what is happening in the special services. And the fact that they work against the whole world and even former friends and gain unspoken victories is a fact.
  35. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ 28 October 2013 13: 43
    +3
    but why listen to him, he often communicates with the Kissinger.
  36. Alex66
    Alex66 28 October 2013 13: 55
    +4
    Politically, Americans are free, because the government frankly does not give a damn about the needs of citizens, but economically the American is clamped in such a way that raising his head and looking around is simply neither time nor opportunity.
    We are also going to this, I myself, feel in my own family, I do not rest for more than 3 weeks, in the season for 3-4 months I work for 12 hours and at the same time, my actual income falls, prices go up, and my salary costs. We are moving away from the social model towards a totalitarian society.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 28 October 2013 21: 57
      +1
      There was a common saying in the USSR: It’s nice to live and work hard 0
      Labor liberates! Horses die from work. Work is not hey, stood, stands and will stand!
      Taste any taste ...
  37. sergey261180
    sergey261180 28 October 2013 14: 00
    0
    not only to announce the existence of a mysterious kuzkin mother with a boot on the platform at the UN
    There was no shoe! This is a black operation of the global "government". He waves his fist and speaks such an amazing speech that no one has ever spoken either before or after! As a result of black PR, no one discussed the essence of Khrushchev's speech on the merits, but only the rumor that he allegedly pounded his boot on the podium? - Where?
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 28 October 2013 14: 40
      +5
      Quote: sergey261180
      There was no boot!

      It's a pity ... Here Bush Jr. has "his" shoe, although not from us, but "has been awarded" ...

      On the picture:
      Iraqi journalist Muntadar al-Zaydi threw his own boot at the US president at a press conference in contempt for the occupation of Iraq.

      Clickable Image:
    2. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 28 October 2013 16: 28
      +3
      Khrushchov pounded his shoe not on the podium, but on the desk, which he sat in the hall.
      Khrushchov withdrew troops from Austria.
      Khrushchev quarreled with Albania, where before that we had a naval base.
      Khrushchev quarreled with China.
      .
      And he would have done even more troubles if it had not been for the recent war, which left in power, in the special services and the army, many military officers. Which for more serious or obvious misconduct would quickly twist his neck. Khrushchev is Gorbachev of the 50s.
      1. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 28 October 2013 19: 34
        +3
        And he gave Crimea to Ukraine ... hi
    3. jjj
      jjj 29 October 2013 02: 20
      0
      The boot came later when Nikita Sergeevich was sitting at the table with all the delegations. There is a newsreel. Light-colored boot with a thick sole. From time to time I buy these with the thought of "Kuzka's mother"
  38. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 28 October 2013 14: 03
    +2
    I propose to touch the Yankees - we take a recording of Putin’s program with a thread by dialogue and launch it via Skype ^ _ ^
  39. ZU-23
    ZU-23 28 October 2013 14: 11
    +2
    So, Putin is generally a mega man, all these world intelligence must learn and learn from our specialists)))
  40. Clueless
    Clueless 28 October 2013 14: 52
    +1
    Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone for current, most oligarchs do not have them either, like the same Prokhorov, for example.
  41. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 28 October 2013 15: 08
    0
    Well, at least something is not available to the liberals.
    Interestingly, how was the matter of being an iPhone pres-ohm?
  42. morpogr
    morpogr 28 October 2013 15: 16
    0
    All their cunning and desire to want to know everything goes sideways to them and it pleases.
  43. uizik
    uizik 28 October 2013 15: 16
    0
    It’s not too much to shake, they will listen less!
  44. The gentleman
    The gentleman 28 October 2013 15: 19
    +1
    Well, the most interesting thing begins)))) at least did not pay much attention to the issue of using some bells and whistles for listening by the special services. more attracted that the information war is becoming more interesting. plus it is the media, which on statements about the "exclusiveness of the nation" show their weakness, that nothing is working against Russia. and then the "yellow press" will make itself felt ... for example, Putin listens to the conversations of the head of the United States and his wife)))
    1. biznaw
      biznaw 28 October 2013 23: 06
      +1
      Quote: Gentleman
      Putin listens to the conversations of the head of the USA and his wife)))

      In the bedroom...
  45. rodevaan
    rodevaan 28 October 2013 16: 18
    +5
    I say, gentlemen - if THIS was ALL BAD - our country would no longer exist. And you don't need to reassure yourself with nonsense about why attack us - we say, "we did what they wanted." Yes, in a very short period in the early 90s we started doing this, especially under Judas-Kozyrev, but I repeat, control over the situation in the security department was quickly restored, even though everything else was sliding into the abyss. And so the country has survived. If control over the suitcase and other law enforcement agencies were lost, it would be the same as in Yugoslavia.
    Do not build any illusions - Russia has been standing in the throat of the Westoid with a bone since the early Middle Ages. And this bone to this day and in the foreseeable future will not go anywhere.
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 28 October 2013 16: 33
      +3
      It turned out to be easier to stop the intervention of militants, mercenaries and foreign special forces in Syria than

      stop the intervention of liberal-western agents in Russia and cleanse the country from them.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 28 October 2013 22: 00
        0
        Unfortunately, neither the first nor the second has yet been executed.
    2. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 28 October 2013 17: 27
      +7
      rodevaan
      Quote: rodevaan
      if THERE was ALL BAD - our country would no longer exist.


      Where is the country? What is left of her? The state is moving away from important areas, selling for pennies the values ​​created by previous generations in private hands.
      What state are you talking about? Today it is already a phantom, not a country.
      Over the past 20 years, nothing has increased. Nowhere and in nothing!
      Even today, Russia rests on old reserves and people who still believe in something else ...
      By the way, I myself am like that.
      1. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 28 October 2013 18: 21
        0
        You confuse, comrade, the country and the state! The country is still in place, the state is absent!
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 28 October 2013 22: 04
          +2
          Unfortunately, geographically, we have now slipped around the era of Mikhail Romanov, with the exception of the Kuban and Konigsberg region.
        2. Gost
          Gost 30 October 2013 12: 46
          0
          There is a state while there is an army.
      2. rodevaan
        rodevaan 29 October 2013 03: 19
        -1
        Quote: Samsebenum
        rodevaan
        Quote: rodevaan
        if THERE was ALL BAD - our country would no longer exist.


        Where is the country? What is left of her? The state is moving away from important areas, selling for pennies the values ​​created by previous generations in private hands.
        What state are you talking about? Today it is already a phantom, not a country.
        Over the past 20 years, nothing has increased. Nowhere and in nothing!
        Even today, Russia rests on old reserves and people who still believe in something else ...
        By the way, I myself am like that.


        - Oh, let's not just start an old song about the main thing! About "EVERYTHING IS BAD", do not. I perfectly remember the 90s, when there was no light, heating, water for days. When at a torch like Chekhovsky Vanka sat and did his homework warming up a ballpoint pen in his hands, because at home the temperature was 0 - +2 degrees. When, besides raspberry GMO Danish salami, and salidol-smelling canned American peaches in the store during the day, and with a lantern, there was nothing of ours - when they cooked in the dark on gas stoves, and burned fires in the porches and baked potatoes in them, when they began to go to the toilet to the street in the bushes, because there was no water at home for days, and the queues for the pump were like they used to be for sausage - I remember very well! Now you remember these times with horror! "EVERYTHING IS BAD" we always had, even in the best times.
        Yes, now there are a lot of aspects that will have to be quickly and seriously worked on - the same corruption of Zimbabwean dimensions ... But this does not mean that the process is worth it. He's coming. Slowly, hard, not as fast as we all would like, but it’s going. Now, for example, you can’t give a cop a free bribe like you did before.
        And about the fact that "everything is bad" - yes, it was always "bad" for everyone. Even if everything goes well, the Russian people will whine and complain about how "bad" they are. My friend gets 150 sput, and whines that he is a beggar. He rides in a cruise ship, cuts across all Patay-Dubai, but all the same whines that he is "poor-tied" ... I'm absolutely sure that if he gets 300 and 500 sput a month, he will still whine that he is a beggar. And very many have this, for the concept of a lot is extensible, the concept is enough is unattainable.
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 29 October 2013 03: 34
          +1
          Quote: rodevaan
          He travels in a cruzak, cuts across all Patay-Dubai, but still whines that he is "poor-zatyukat".

          Reread Averchenko-about Panteleimon Grymzin and understand everything wassat hi
          1. rodevaan
            rodevaan 29 October 2013 12: 26
            +1
            Quote: Ruslan67

            Reread Averchenko-about Panteleimon Grymzin and understand everything wassat hi


            “You’d better say directly what you are hinting at?” Get smart and I can.
  46. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 28 October 2013 16: 44
    +4
    I think the article is blurry, about everything at once.
    Salad from the first, second and compote in one plate ...
    And at the expense of wiretapping GDP, I’m not sure that it doesn’t exist.
    Modern technology is capable of very, very much.
  47. Prishtina
    Prishtina 28 October 2013 16: 44
    0
    Quote: Bronis
    FSO can control only the federal level, and even then - relatively. "Below" is already difficult.


    It’s not that difficult. And you can kill two birds with one stone_ "security of the state and corruption"

    And for this it is only necessary to legalize (create an inventory list) on the property (state-owned) at the official’s work .... One for the whole country.

    For example .. an official Pupkin mayor of the city of the population of up to 100t.ch ..
    Table lamp - 1pc. Manufacturer "such and such"
    Chair - 4 pcs. Manufacturer "that that"
    well, etc ... and God forbid, the official will be at the workplace in the administration of the unaccounted for;) then what is not in the state inventory list.
    1. igor36
      igor36 28 October 2013 21: 44
      0
      the Chinese have already built bugs in irons. http://www.rg.ru/2013/10/28/spykettle-site.html
  48. Witch
    Witch 28 October 2013 17: 23
    0
    ... As for real attempts to listen to the phone of the President of Russia, then the story is separate. Everyone remembers that the Russian president has said many times that he does not have a mobile phone. ...

    Now it may not, but it used to be in the Nokiev building, in which the FAPSI craftsmen soldered something ... At least such frames slipped through the zombie box at the beginning of the zero ....
  49. gabatikuk
    gabatikuk 28 October 2013 18: 03
    -1
    Thanks to the author, great article
  50. andruha70
    andruha70 28 October 2013 18: 04
    +3
    This article is for whom? for kindergarteners or what? fool
    Siemens and a number of other companies supplied communications equipment to the SFRY
    in our city - too, at the beginning of the 90s all the equipment at telephone exchanges was changed to Simenskoe ... but every sane man in the street knew that there were some "tricky" microcircuits - which write everything down, and "somewhere "send. laughing