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Rasmussen was told not to cooperate with the CSTO

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Last week, it was reported that the NATO Secretary General once again declared that the alliance he headed was not ready to cooperate with the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), which currently includes Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.


Although, by and large, the term “headed” as applied to Mr. Rasmussen, used above, is far from the best. Why? Yes, if only because it was Anders Fogh Rasmussen himself who a couple of years ago expressed the idea of ​​the need to start cooperation between NATO and the CSTO. Then this idea, let's say, was stabbed by representatives of the American administration headed by Mrs. Clinton, who, as is well known, repeatedly stated that her goal (among other things) sees preventing Russia from creating any capable associations and blocks in the post-Soviet space. And as soon as information about the idea of ​​Rasmussen reached Washington, he was told in an epistolary form that possible cooperation between NATO and the CSTO could create only additional advertising for the CSTO, which, quote: "is contrary to the interests of the United States." Where did such information come from? Yes, all through the same acclaimed site WikiLeaks, which took and posted in the format of public access this interesting correspondence.

In this regard, it is at least ridiculous to call Mr. Rasmussen the Secretary General of the North Atlantic Alliance, which WikiLeaks demonstrated to the whole world. After that, someone else wonders: why are they "out there" so dislike Jullian Assange ... There are, of course, motives. With the publication of letters on hypothetical cooperation between NATO and the CSTO - as one example.

Rasmussen was told not to cooperate with the CSTO


The most interesting thing is that the CSTO leadership, it seems, does not burn with a special desire to “be friends with families” with NATO, and Rasmussen is still forced (a priori) to refuse ... If someone really wants to be friends, then there are others formats ... CSTO Secretary General Nikolai Bordyuzha states about the relations of the CSTO and the North Atlantic Alliance:

For us, interaction with NATO is not a vital issue. We offer this cooperation only in order to increase the effectiveness of the activities of both NATO and the CSTO by joint actions. In any case, in Afghanistan, God himself ordered NATO to interact with such structures as the CSTO. It’s just focused, among other things, on preserving the life of people. I’m not even talking about ensuring stability in states. We have quite big plans for the development of the organization, and we are implementing them today. Therefore, when NATO is ripe for our cooperation, then we will consider the possibility of such cooperation. So far, unfortunately, this is not.


Indeed, NATO has not matured for cooperation yet. But is it NATO? It is unlikely that the entire alliance has matured, that is, 28 of the states within it. The United States has not matured, the UK has not matured. You see, they are afraid to create a CSTO advertisement ... Well, so let them be afraid further ...

On the other hand, and for what purpose in general these two organizations can hypothetically begin their cooperation? If the goal of the CSTO, as at least follows from the statements of representatives of the leadership of this organization, is to build a regional security system, then this is certainly not compatible with the goals of NATO. For NATO's goals for the entire 64-year-old history Alliance has nothing to do with the construction of any security at all. NATO is a typical American-British creation, which is designed to create a background when solving certain military issues. In recent years, these issues have increasingly been linked to chaos sowing literally around the world: from the bombing of Serbian cities to the actual sponsorship of al-Qaida in Syria. Do you really need to cooperate with the military bloc, which, during its existence, hiding behind a screen from the spread of pseudo-democracy, was chosen closer to the new (external) sources of support for the main economies of the alliance? The question is rhetorical.

Even if we assume that Brussels (after consulting with Big Brother, of course), says that NATO is ready to cooperate with the CSTO, then what will change? Maybe the CSTO leadership will begin to consult, whether to continue Washington or London to finance Syrian militants or to refuse funding? Maybe they will decide to help the CSTO to strengthen the southern borders of the CIS after the withdrawal of the combined contingent from Afghanistan? Well, it is hard to believe this ...

But NATO will try to do everything to spread the Afghan confusion a little to the north - to the republics of Central Asia, to the southern "underbelly" of Russia, much more hard to believe ... And then, as you know, the alliance doesn’t need to invent anything - just leave Afghanistan Arming his "army" and "police", leave the unused b / y weapon “As a gift,” for example, to Uzbekistan (which is still being talked about today in Washington and Tashkent), and then the Taliban will finish the job ... Remaining within the framework of Afghanistan only, as 90's practice has shown - the beginning of 2000, the Taliban do not want - they need space. And with the remaining NATO weapons, and even with the presence in Central Asia of the “opposition” fueled by American means, the spread of extremism in the region can go at an extravagant pace. Unless, of course, for such an alignment of the CSTO (all the states that are members of this organization) will prepare in advance.

Apparently, the CSTO is preparing and is actively preparing: operational and tactical exercises with the anti-drug sight “Thunder-13” on the territory of Kyrgyzstan, tactical and special exercises “Cobalt-2013” by the CSTO RRF in the Rostov Region, exercises in Chebarkul “The Indestructible Brotherhood-XNUM” »Involving fighters of elite special forces units, agreements on assistance to the Border Troops of Tajikistan.

So it is hardly advisable to talk about the need to create some kind of connection with the atlantists. Itself is more expensive. And so that there is no desire to impose cooperation on the alliance, the business card of NATO’s “cooperation” and NATO’s “aid” should always remain before your eyes: a collage of bombers over Belgrade, Tripoli, Baghdad, opium plantations of Afghanistan, tens of thousands of mutilated bodies and hiding behind the banner of Islam radicals scouring the roads of the Middle East in search of new blood.
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  1. afire
    afire 28 October 2013 09: 14
    17
    When only this hydra of NATO’s tail was chopped off, these girls got sick
    1. Sunjar
      Sunjar 28 October 2013 10: 27
      +6
      The Hydra cannot be chopped off. Such a reptile must be burned in fig.
      The United States is still strong and very influential, but so far. Already, Russia is dictating its conditions. Yes, it is not easy for our diplomats, but there is success. Ten years ago, nobody considered Russia, but now how it turned out. In view of the weakening of the United States from the UN, it will be possible to demand compliance with the laws and conventions that they have written. Europe will quickly turn its back on its current owner (and the owner is still scum), and it will have to cooperate and listen to a more adequate and stronger (than Europe) partner. Yes, and it will be more useful to her when they are doing business with her on more or less equal terms, and not as the United States has said, that’s what it’s necessary to do.
      It seems to me that in the foreseeable future we will see the collapse of the United States, as a system and as a state.
      1. mivmim
        mivmim 28 October 2013 11: 32
        +7
        Quote: Sunjar
        It seems to me that in the foreseeable future we will see the collapse of the United States, as a system and as a state.

        To survive, so damn you want to see ......
    2. artemiy
      artemiy 28 October 2013 17: 58
      +2
      Head must be chopped!
      1. alone
        alone 28 October 2013 22: 11
        0
        why are you surprised? NATO understands that the main striking force of the CSTO is Russia. Here they will try to cooperate with Russia. I see nothing surprising in this
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 28 October 2013 09: 18
    11
    NATO entered AFGAN turned this aspen nest and left.
    We will pay the wonderful strategy of our sworn friends.
    1. randomizer
      randomizer 28 October 2013 10: 17
      +5
      We need to start doing something near them. They will whine at once.
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 28 October 2013 10: 27
      +6
      Actually, NATO in Afghanistan is one of Solntseliky's indisputable foreign policy victories, which gave us ten years to prepare and exhausting our "friends". How Solntselikiy used this time is another question.

      PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 28 October 2013 10: 34
        +2
        Never - you can’t plant part of yourself; he will not do hara-kiri.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 28 October 2013 11: 42
          0
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          and he will not do hara-kiri.

          Harakiri won't work! The knife will get stuck in the fat! We need something more efficient! For example, "Sweets from Sudoplatov"
  3. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 28 October 2013 09: 23
    +6
    In general, as for me, NATO was "tailored" by the United States and Great Britain, when the leaders of these countries realized that neither the United States, nor Great Britain, nor France, Germany, Holland and other limitrophes would ever cope with the Soviet army, and that if the Soviet the army will very quickly reach the English Channel, so we had to create an organization that can somehow indicate resistance. And in general, the favorite trick of the Anglo-Saxons is to throw some Frenchmen or any Belgians with Italians at the enemy machine guns. As for cooperation with the CSTO, so the very meaning of NATO's existence is then lost.
  4. Sochi
    Sochi 28 October 2013 09: 27
    +3
    If they are afraid, then they respect ...
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 28 October 2013 11: 51
      +2
      Quote: Sochi
      Since they are afraid, they are respected.

      Well, to say that we are very afraid of Nata, the language does not turn. Russia in recent history (albeit with some success) is still struggling to maintain a certain military-political level that impedes the destruction of the country and the drain of resources. The US State Department is definitely not our brother! In general, we have nothing to brag about so far .. I really hope that only for now. wink
      1. Sochi
        Sochi 28 October 2013 13: 00
        0
        They respect not only the "pieces of iron", they also respect the spirit, the ability to resist the enemy, and the Russians have proven this many times ... so all sorts of overseas "friends" are afraid of us, and in conjunction with the rest, we instill terror in them.
  5. makarov
    makarov 28 October 2013 09: 33
    +4
    ".. The most interesting thing is that the CSTO leadership does not seem to have a special desire to" be friends with families "with NATO, and Rasmussen is still forced (a priori) to refuse ..."

    Everything is primitively simple. There is such a policy: - I did disgust, joy at heart .......
  6. morpogr
    morpogr 28 October 2013 09: 34
    +5
    NATO is a criminal organization that violates and violates the law. One bombing of cities with civilians is a crime. They wanted to spit on the UN charter. All the actions of this organization are aimed at one benefit for the United States, and the rest of the countries are simply servants of the owner and dutifully carry out his will and orders.
  7. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 28 October 2013 09: 40
    +4
    During the Opium Wars, the British didn’t addiction to drugs, now the United States wants the whole world to
  8. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 28 October 2013 09: 45
    +4
    Then this idea, let’s say, was cut short by representatives of the American administration led by Mrs. Clinton, who, as you know, has repeatedly stated that her goal (among other things) is to prevent Russia from creating any viable associations and blocs in the post-Soviet space.
    If the Clintoness becomes president, and she is going, then somehow the Cold War would not start again.
    And on the topic, do we need them? As Aleksey correctly said, our plans are completely different. THERE ARE GUIDING AROUND US AROUND US, so that we loot, forces are killed there, and we have diametrically opposed ones.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 28 October 2013 10: 29
      0
      Climax woman, ditch the states. And what is left for trinkets will exchange.

      PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
      1. ultra
        ultra 28 October 2013 10: 59
        0
        Quote: zvereok
        PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?

        IMHO, never!
    2. Vorkot cat
      Vorkot cat 28 October 2013 19: 22
      +2
      And what, there are still naive people who believe that the Cold War ended long ago? laughing
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 October 2013 09: 48
    +2
    Apparently, the CSTO is preparing and is actively preparing: operational and tactical exercises with the anti-drug sight “Thunder-13” on the territory of Kyrgyzstan, tactical and special exercises “Cobalt-2013” by the CSTO RRF in the Rostov Region, exercises in Chebarkul “The Indestructible Brotherhood-XNUM” »Involving fighters of elite special forces units, agreements on assistance to the Border Troops of Tajikistan.

    Yes, the Merikatos chukhoth will come out of Afghanistan, and crap from all the cracks to us nonsense under the numbers 777 ...
  10. Bober
    Bober 28 October 2013 09: 48
    +5
    The article has nothing special to add. The announcement of cooperation with NATO is a hand reaching out to Nato, who is drowning in his illogicality. With each step, they will continue to discredit themselves. NATO, as a vicious organization, will only increase, further and deeper, its anti-humanity over time.
    And Rasmussen is funny. Looks like a crocodile to Gena.
    You can act in cartoons without makeup (s).
  11. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 28 October 2013 09: 51
    +5
    Looking at the photo of Rasmussen, he was not badly ripped off for friendship with the CSTO
  12. Timur
    Timur 28 October 2013 09: 58
    +4
    they are the only ones to use the atomic bomb against peaceful cities.
  13. Egoza
    Egoza 28 October 2013 10: 07
    +2
    Article +++!
    NATO is now going through hard times due to the economic crisis in the United States. And they understand "cooperation" only as their own dictate. This will not work for them. And no matter how they turned, the CSTO began to remind them of the Soviet army very much. And they keep the "alternate airfield" for themselves. Suddenly, where you have to clash with "this CSTO", and then cooperation will interfere.
  14. GSH-18
    GSH-18 28 October 2013 10: 12
    +1
    "Rasmussen was ordered not to cooperate with the CSTO"
    Estessno! What did you expect? belay This is not his personal block. Who pays, he orders the music. And the Americans are paying. Rasmussen's personal opinion does not bother them.
    The article should be called: "The States are against cooperation with the CSTO" so it will be more accurate.
  15. pensioner
    pensioner 28 October 2013 10: 13
    +3
    Thanks Alexey!
    so that there is no desire to impose an alliance on cooperation, the visit card of the NATO “cooperation” and NATO “help” itself must always remain: a collage of bombers over Belgrade, Tripoli, Baghdad, Afghanistan's opium plantations, tens of thousands of mutilated bodies and radicals hiding behind the banner of Islam scouring the roads of the Middle East for new blood
    - The painting is of course apocalyptic ... You can’t say anything ... Can it really be embodied on canvas? Bosch will nervously smoke aside ..
  16. pensioner
    pensioner 28 October 2013 10: 24
    +2
    And Rasmussen in the photo looks such a sufferer that it immediately becomes clear: with what incredible difficulty he is given the thought process fool.
  17. Migari
    Migari 28 October 2013 10: 27
    0
    What friendship can be with the enemy, especially since he himself wanted to be friends, but Clintonk’s pancake didn’t allow, and the CSTO wasn’t going to, she knows who you are and what.
  18. Igor39
    Igor39 28 October 2013 10: 29
    0
    I don’t understand why cooperate with NATO at all, they promised not to expand to the east, they deceived, they will only believe the second time. You just have to make reciprocal moves, they are placing a missile defense base in Romania, in response to place Iskander on the border and tell them that it is not directed against you, it is a temporary location, that's all.
  19. VadimSt
    VadimSt 28 October 2013 10: 46
    +4
    Where are they found in "civilized Europe" - with such and such a mug? Typical Pithecanthropus.
    Spiral return
    1. LSV
      LSV 28 October 2013 12: 19
      0
      Someone frightened - in the eyes of horror, disheveled. It feels like I saw a train rushing towards him). DAM even became more photogenic, but at first in the pictures the face was also the same.
  20. Starfish
    Starfish 28 October 2013 11: 07
    +2
    at the moment, the existence of NATO is in our hands, however unexpected it may be.
    the longer NATO exists in the current format, the less aggregate power it possesses. because Europeans rely on the United States and weaken their armies, it’s even faster now because of the crisis. there are exceptions like Poland, but even without NATO it would try to strengthen itself against us. Now the United States itself has joined Europe in weakening the armed forces.
    Thus, while the countries that are members of NATO rely on NATO (sorry for the pun) - this gives us time to recreate the power of the army that has been destroyed over the past 20 years.
  21. Vaskes
    Vaskes 28 October 2013 12: 03
    0
    The United States occupies the highest level of power in NATO, and they manage the whole process, for the sake of their interests, posing themselves as the highest race. Soon it will fall like the Roman Empire.
  22. ed65b
    ed65b 28 October 2013 12: 28
    0
    I can not agree with the author about the operational space of the Taliban. after coming to power, the Taliban became confined to the internal problems of Afghanistan. in no way seeking to expand its influence on the states of Central Asia. Do not forget that Afghanistan was split into pieces. The Northern Alliance - Tajiks and Uzbeks, were engaged in the heroin trade and training of opposition forces of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Now, under the comb, it has become fashionable to blame everything on the Taliban. although it was under the Taliban that the authorities began to seriously fight drugs. For opponents, this did not concern the northern alliance, since they lived without being subordinate to the central government - the Taliban.
  23. fisherman
    fisherman 28 October 2013 12: 36
    +1
    Yes, indeed, the United States invests fixed assets, therefore they establish the conditions. Regarding the Roman Empire, it has angered several hundred years — I don’t want to wait so long!
  24. Nursultan
    Nursultan 28 October 2013 14: 18
    +1
    The government of the Russian Federation will present to the President of the country for submission to the State Duma for ratification an agreement with Kazakhstan on the creation of a Unified Regional Air Defense System of the two countries, Interfax-Kazakhstan reports.

    "To approve and submit to the President of the Russian Federation for submission to the State Duma for ratification the agreement between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan on the creation of the Unified Regional Air Defense System of the Russian Federation and Kazakhstan, signed on January 30 in Astana," the government decree, published in the bank of regulations, says.

    The agreement establishes the international legal foundations of the system as an integral part of the united air defense system of the CIS countries. The implementation of this agreement will make it possible on a reciprocal basis to provide automated information on the air situation over the territory of Kazakhstan and neighboring states.

    In addition, in fulfilling the agreement, the parties will mutual transfer of classified information on air defense issues within the framework of the operation of the Unified Regional Air Defense System of Russia and Kazakhstan.

    The agreement on the creation of the Unified Regional Air Defense System was signed on January 30, 2013 during a meeting of the defense ministers of Russia and Kazakhstan - Sergei Shoigu and Adilbek Dzhaksybekov.
    As Shoigu said at the time, "this agreement on air defense contains new components, including anti-missile defense."

    More details: http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/rossiyskoe-pravitelstvo-odobrilo-soglasheni
    e-kazahstanom-sozdanii-edinoy-244429 /
    Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to Tengrinews.kz
  25. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 28 October 2013 15: 45
    +1
    Anders Fogh Rasmussen a couple of years ago himself expressed the idea of ​​the need to begin cooperation between NATO and the CSTO. Then this idea, let’s say, was cut short by representatives of the American administration led by Mrs. Clinton, who, as you know, has repeatedly stated that her goal (among other things) is to prevent Russia from creating any viable associations and blocs in the post-Soviet space. And as soon as the information about Rasmussen’s idea reached Washington, he was told in an epistolary form that the possible cooperation between NATO and the CSTO could only create additional advertising for the CSTO, which, quote: “contrary to US interests.” Where did this information come from? Yes, all through the same sensational Wikilix site, which he took and posted in a shared format this interesting conversation.

    The main thing is not to let Russia grow stronger. They still hope for revenge and for a new "march to the East" when Russia becomes weaker (Of course, somewhere in the soul, and suddenly you get lucky).
  26. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 28 October 2013 17: 11
    +1
    <<< And as soon as information about Rasmussen's idea (about cooperation between NATO and the CSTO) reached Washington, he was told in an epistolary form that possible cooperation between NATO and the CSTO could only create additional advertising for the CSTO, which, quote: "is contrary to the interests of the United States." >>>
    It is clear that the main crap-mongers of NATO - the United States and England want to be monopolists, the only military bloc in the world, almost a kind of UN military structure, which, allegedly, is not a world gendarme, but simply has the right to undertake military actions on behalf of the world community, of course , with exceptionally good intentions, such as "forcing peace" or "protecting" the civilian population, and therefore do not want to see a competitor - the CSTO - but the CSTO exists, is strengthening, its authority is growing and whether NATO wants or does not want it, IT HAS to be considered with the CSTO!
  27. svp67
    svp67 28 October 2013 17: 33
    +1
    Rasmussen was told not to cooperate with the CSTO

    Since NATO is no time now. He now has his own dreams and tasks ...
  28. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 28 October 2013 17: 35
    +1
    In my opinion, a man has constipation in his photograph. He needs to be prescribed a laxative. A very brightly written thought on his face (or maybe already in his pants?)
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 28 October 2013 19: 33
      0
      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      .Very brightly written thought on the face(maybe already in the pants?)


      In thongs - it’s europees.
  29. jjj
    jjj 29 October 2013 01: 01
    0
    Nobody is going to cooperate seriously with NATO. But so hold a couple of exercises, chat during a coffee break, take a closer look, feel the mood, incline someone to cooperate
  30. scientist
    scientist 1 November 2013 22: 27
    0
    Quote: Nursultan
    The agreement on the creation of a Unified Regional Air Defense System was signed on January 30, 2013 during a meeting between the Defense Ministers of Russia and Kazakhstan - Sergei Shoigu and Adilbek Dzhaksybekov. As Shoigu said at the time, "this agreement on air defense contains new components, including anti-missile defense."

    I can supplement in 2007, Presidents Nazarbayev and Putin signed a joint action plan on joint work on the creation of automated control systems, air defense and communications. Based on this, a large working group was created, which for 3 years tried to find solutions to these problems. The result is "0". Moreover, Dzhaksybekov personally, with the support of the KNB, all this cooperation, reached, agreements, arrangements and even the draft contracts destroyed... There "kickbacks" in principle could not be laid. And now a couple of years have passed and everything has started anew. So I can say with confidence that this is all hypocrisy for the sake of political conjuncture, there will be no result. I have many friends of air defense personnel left in Kazakhstan, but now all these honest and decent officers are writing reports and retiring, there remain stupid sycophants. In principle, I also communicate with them, because they are not to blame for having offended them with their minds, it is even more pity for them.