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New revelations from Snowden

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The British Guardian was noted for new disclosures that Edward Snowden once suggested for this edition. Today it became known that the American special services were trying to actively spy on the heads of 35 states of the world. Among those who were hooked by the CIA and the NSA were politicians who were leaders of friendly states. In particular, policy news they say that Angela Merkel was subject to electronic surveillance.


After the appearance of such information in the media, the Federal Chancellor of Germany decided to call Barack Obama and ask him to explain what she had read in recent newspapers. In particular, Merkel said that between good friends can not be anything closely resembling the surveillance. However, she noted that the friendly and partnership ties between the United States and Germany are long-standing, and breaking these ties would be the height of unprofessionalism.

The press service of the American leader has spread information that Obama assured Merkel of the unfounded claims. In particular, Jay Carney - a representative of the White House, said on the subject of scandals that they "did not listen, and are not going to listen." Such an explanation for Mrs. Merkel could hardly look exhaustive, and therefore, after the publication of Snowden's revelations in the British edition of the Guardian, one can expect more restrained contacts between Berlin and Washington.

"Restraint" manifests itself now. It is, for example, about the contacts of Brazil and the United States. More recently, the head of Brazil, Dilma Rouseff, directly told Obama that the work of American intelligence services in listening to mobile phone conversations of representatives of foreign political elites is an action that it can’t be called partnering. After that, Brazil decided to abandon purchases of certain types of weapons on the traditional American market, preferring to begin negotiations with Russia.

According to Snowden, US intelligence agencies followed the heads of Russia, Iran, China, and India. Such information is confirmed by the printouts of incoming and outgoing calls by the leaders of these and other countries, which were represented by the said edition.

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  1. Onyx
    Onyx 26 October 2013 11: 37
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    I have only one logical explanation for all this. Contradictions have accumulated in the Anglo-Saxon elite, and one group is fighting another. Otherwise, how to explain that this Snowden is promoted, first of all, by the British and American media themselves. If the media had not talked about him, no one would have known about this Snowden. And in chorus they can say what is needed, they know how to force their media. Moreover, I’m sure that the leading media belong to those who run both the United States and Great Britain.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 26 October 2013 11: 46
      12
      greetings to all hi
      Now on the topic of the branch.

      quote-Today, it became known that the American intelligence services tried to actively spy on the heads of 35 countries of the world.

      quote-In particular, political news suggests that Angela Merkel was subjected to electronic surveillance.
      After the appearance of such information in the media, the Federal Chancellor of Germany decided to call Barack Obama and ask him to explain what she had read in recent newspapers. In particular, Merkel said that between good friends can not be anything closely resembling the surveillance. However, she noted that the friendly and partnership ties between the United States and Germany are long-standing, and breaking these ties would be the height of unprofessionalism.

      This is necessary, Merkel makes a fool of himself or pretends to be ?! winked
      U.S. intelligence agencies have long been polling their citizens for a long time; they are following the leaders of the heads of state, including the so-called allies, among other sensible people and specialists, it has long been known that Snowden did not invent a bicycle. He simply once again confirmed the well-known axiom.

      quote-After that, Brazil decided to abandon the purchase of certain types of weapons in the traditional US market, preferring to start negotiations with Russia.

      And the relevant defense export structures must take advantage of the situation and wipe their nose off for the Americans. laughing
      1. zennon
        zennon 27 October 2013 15: 48
        +1
        And the relevant defense export structures need take advantage of the situation and wipe your nose Americans

        But it does not seem obvious to you that the relevant services of Russia ORGANIZED this situation? And then there lived a certain Snowden. In Hawaii in chocolate, for years I read the whole world, yes SUDDENLY broke through it! He tore his shirt on his chest, broke his country at the very least, and ended up in Russia. It seems to me that the situation is more difficult ...
    2. shpuntik
      shpuntik 26 October 2013 11: 56
      +2
      Foreman
      Onyx EN Today, 11:37 AM New
      I have only one logical explanation for all this. Contradictions have accumulated in the Anglo-Saxon elite, and one group is fighting another.

      There is such a letter in this word. good Judging by indirect analysis: the Rothschilds for the global economy, the decommissioning of the ShA with its expensive labor force, they are investing in China. The Rockefellers and the company for maintaining the leading role of the ShA, want to keep it. But the Fed is in the hands of the Rockefellers, and the Rothschilds are bankers. Here is a little about these graters:
      http://akademiagp.ru/v-b-pavlenko-bolshaya-igra-rotshildov-i-rokfellerov-na-svet
      uiv-teni /
      http://www.kp.ru/daily/26085.5/2988035/
      1. timer
        timer 27 October 2013 23: 39
        +1
        Looked, thanks. It is interesting to listen to a specialist who clearly expresses his thoughts.
    3. mirror
      mirror 26 October 2013 18: 17
      0
      There is also another completely logical explanation: there is no single center of power, but there are different centers of influence with different interests. One of the centers of power is the media. They really need sensations, Pulitzer Prizes, and also the money that these sensations give. Well, here the interest of the media coincided with the interest of some political circles digging under Obama. In addition, it is easy to close the media there and simply will not work - well, they are not afraid of any presidents there. Who of them digs up more compromising evidence is on horseback - a kind of equivalent of dogs sniffing out problem points. They are not saints, often unpleasant and shameless, far from always honest and objective, but greedy for sensations and revelations. And here we have almost no one who sniffs freely and the evil ones. More and more service and obedient dogs from the media, working only on the command "fas!" and once again not barking: what if the owner gets angry? So Serdyukov is our witness request
    4. Skiff-2
      Skiff-2 26 October 2013 20: 11
      +2
      Quote: Onyx
      I have only one logical explanation for all this. Contradictions have accumulated in the Anglo-Saxon elite, and one group is fighting another. Otherwise, how to explain that this Snowden is promoted, first of all, by the British and American media themselves. If the media had not talked about him, no one would have known about this Snowden. And in chorus they can say what is needed, they know how to force their media. Moreover, I’m sure that the leading media belong to those who run both the United States and Great Britain.

      The Guardian is the Rothschild newspaper. He withdrew his assets from the USA, moved his headquarters from London to Hong Kong ... but who needs it now - this America?
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 26 October 2013 20: 32
        -2
        Quote: Skif-2
        The Guardian is the Rothschild newspaper. He withdrew his assets from the USA, moved his headquarters from London to Hong Kong ... but who needs it now - this America?

        All these are just your assumptions. Where is the confirmation that the Guardian is the Rothschild newspaper? That he transferred the headquarters to somewhere
    5. 755962
      755962 27 October 2013 13: 03
      +1
      Quote: Onyx
      Otherwise, how to explain the fact that this Snowden is promoted

      And notice ...At the right time and in the right place! bully
    6. timer
      timer 27 October 2013 22: 57
      0
      That being said, and the hedgehog is understandable, the scorpions in the bank sting each other. If I'm not mistaken, the Guardian newspaper belongs to the Rothschilds. And Snowden reminds me of a soccer ball. As for the world media, it is known that they, with giblets, belong not to those who are the leaders of the USA and England, but to the world clans of the oligarchy, which uses them as weapons in their interests (against Russia in particular). And finally, I want to add, for Russia this is a convenient chance to play on the contradictions that have arisen in their own interests. Actively drive in wedges reinforcing the contention between NATO conspirators.
  2. karal
    karal 26 October 2013 11: 38
    -17 qualifying.
    Unlike A. Merkel, V. Putin is unlikely to call Barashka to explain himself, they are friends!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 October 2013 11: 56
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      Quote: karal
      Unlike A. Merkel, V. Putin is unlikely to call Barashka to explain himself, they are friends!

      Today is Saturday, damn it, so tomorrow you will still be on the site. And on Monday to school, to school, to school!
      The second day on the site is some kind of autumn aggravation.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 26 October 2013 12: 24
      +6
      Quote: karal
      Unlike A. Merkel, V. Putin is unlikely to call Barashka to explain himself, they are friends!
      The Western press, which publishes the materials of Snowden, hinted that the next drain would concern Russia, and supposedly for us this would not be a pleasant surprise. So let's look at the reaction ....
      1. SSR
        SSR 26 October 2013 16: 01
        0
        Quote: Russ69
        Quote: karal
        Unlike A. Merkel, V. Putin is unlikely to call Barashka to explain himself, they are friends!
        that the next drain will concern Russia and supposedly for us it will not be a pleasant surprise. So let's look at the reaction ....

        moss. There Medvedev will be featured.
    3. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 26 October 2013 16: 44
      +3
      unlike Merkel (which is stupidly PR), serious uncles understand that all countries follow all countries ...
      in particular, such major players as Russia and the USA understand this ...
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 26 October 2013 18: 27
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        Quote: DanaF1
        unlike Merkel (which is stupidly PR), serious uncles understand that all countries follow all countries ...
        in particular, such major players as Russia and the USA understand this ...


        I will say more, not only understand ...
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  4. crambol
    crambol 26 October 2013 11: 39
    +4
    I make a proposal to the Empire of Lies: Prepare diplomatic excuses for ALL countries and send them to all addresses in advance so as not to waste unnecessary effort.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 October 2013 11: 56
      +3
      Quote: crambol
      : Prepare diplomatic excuses for ALL countries and send them to all addresses in advance so as not to waste extra effort.

      This is already done.
  5. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 26 October 2013 11: 53
    +3
    Something muddy all with Snowden
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 26 October 2013 12: 54
      +1
      Yes, I think that our people have pumped everything out of him. And they would have given the pendal as soon as it arrived.
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 26 October 2013 16: 45
        0
        it provided that he knew something at all ...
        tormented by vague suspicions that this is a puffy figure ...
  6. patriot2
    patriot2 26 October 2013 11: 55
    +4
    Intelligence (espionage, if you want) is in all countries, and there have always been developments (both in relation to allies and partners). Nothing new, the screams of the gay people are a strange thing, then ...
    1. zub46
      zub46 26 October 2013 23: 47
      0
      I agree. And how small children are all - oh, eavesdrop! How else to live in this world? Any more or less self-respecting state will and will stand on that. Amen.
  7. Corsair
    Corsair 26 October 2013 11: 56
    +2
    Quote from the article:
    In particular, political news suggests that Angela Merkel was subjected to electronic surveillance

    Most interestingly, "Madame Chancellor" had a careless habit of "handing out" important instructions via SMS to her subordinates.
    Separately, it is worth noting that Merkel naturally used the phone that had been "upgraded" in the laboratories of the German special services. IT WAS NOT HELPED ... fellow

    Germans-Germans, but I would like to know HOW are things with the wiretapping of the RUSSIAN MANUAL ???
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 26 October 2013 12: 18
      +3
      Quote: Corsair
      WHAT IS THE STATE WITH THE TICKET OF THE RUSSIAN MANUAL ???


      Do not you guess?! Surely. More than sure that the Russian special services are listening or listening accordingly to the US leadership. laughing But how could it be otherwise. You must be aware of what they breathe + intelligence information.
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 26 October 2013 15: 00
        +1
        SVR in general M O L O D C S !!!!!! FOR SNOWDEN FIVE !!!!!!!!! good
    2. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 26 October 2013 16: 47
      +1
      Quote: Corsair
      Germans-Germans, but I would like to know HOW are things with the wiretapping of the RUSSIAN MANUAL ???

      what do you think?

      The CIA, as well as the Foreign Intelligence Service, receives their salary for a reason ...
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 26 October 2013 16: 55
        +2
        Yes, everyone listens to each other. Accusing America of such meanness as complaining that the enemy’s bayonets are sharpened sharper than they should and the grenades are equipped (is it conceivable belay ) explosives.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 26 October 2013 17: 04
          +1
          well, clicking on the "strategic partner" on the nose has not bothered anyone yet ... besides, they have substituted themselves ...

          however, making such a surprised face out of it is at least strange ...
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 26 October 2013 23: 41
        0
        Quote: DanaF1
        what do you think?

        Actually, I thought my comment would be
        As I conceived: Have the USA listened OUR MANAGERS?
        If our services have established a "barrier" to prevent this, then this is ONE BUSINESS, and if not, THEN .......
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 27 October 2013 00: 13
          0
          Quote: Corsair
          Did the USA listen OUR MANAGERS?
          If our services have established a "barrier" to prevent this, then this is ONE BUSINESS, and if not, THEN .......


          It seems to me that more than one protection will not give 100% guarantee ...
    3. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 26 October 2013 18: 42
      +1
      With the Stasi, this would not work ...
    4. zennon
      zennon 27 October 2013 16: 08
      0
      Quote: Corsair

      Germans-Germans, but I would like to know HOW are things with the wiretapping of the RUSSIAN MANUAL ???

      By Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated January 26, 2006 No. 45, In Moscow and the region, these functions are assigned to the Center for Licensing and Certification of State Secrets of the FSB of Russia (("TsLSZ" of the FSB of Russia) 101000, Moscow, Bolshaya Lubyanka, 2 Code 8 (495) 914-30-73), and in the regions - to the territorial bodies of the FSB. It would not be a bad thing to redirect your question there ...
  8. avg
    avg 26 October 2013 12: 26
    +6
    German Federal Chancellor, decided to call Barack Obama and ask him to explain what she read in the latest newspapers.

    "Don't you read the latest newspapers ..." Ms Merkel Obama replied. stop
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 26 October 2013 18: 44
      +1
      Quote: avg
      German Federal Chancellor, decided to call Barack Obama and ask him to explain what she read in the latest newspapers.

      "Don't you read the latest newspapers ..." Ms Merkel Obama replied. stop


      ... Bolshevik)))
  9. 31231
    31231 26 October 2013 12: 37
    +2
    A good thorn in the eye of the US leadership was Snowden. Not the fact that all his information is a fact, but the Western public is ecstatic.
  10. avg
    avg 26 October 2013 12: 38
    +7
    When I read such articles, I immediately remember "Faust" - Dima Medvedev seduced by "Mephistopheles" - Steve Jobs.
    1. avg
      avg 26 October 2013 12: 57
      +2
      And here is another photo
      1. SSR
        SSR 26 October 2013 16: 10
        +1
        Yes.
        Ps. Steve Jobs was not a very simple person, he was recommended to the US presidential administration after certain conclusions from the FBI and was recommended not only for his intelligence, but also for his ability to play not "fair".
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 26 October 2013 19: 02
        +4
        The expression is like that of a baby who reached for the first time a rattle. The same indescribable delight ... Now you can’t hide even in the toilet ...
      3. AVV
        AVV 27 October 2013 01: 46
        +1
        He saw himself? And he was surprised !!!
  11. negeroi
    negeroi 26 October 2013 12: 45
    -3
    It turns out Snowden threw Putin? After all, Putin guaranteed Snowden's protection if he stopped talking about "partners" byaku. It looks like Snowden set Putin up. Or will we look and wait for an explanation of the phenomenon from the Authorities? By the way, who is Snowden? I think Churchill invented him in 18th year. Or the CIA in 2010, and in 2012 it got us.
  12. grapefruit
    grapefruit 26 October 2013 12: 45
    +5
    They listened to everyone and everyone (if possible). What we have is ours - there will be an opportunity - a bug will be stuck. The main task is not to get caught.
    1. zub46
      zub46 26 October 2013 23: 53
      0
      It is best to use a Chinese-made "bug". So that there are no indications of the customer country or the performers of the event on it. And if you get caught - don't use drugs and remember the old law: "If you don't admit it, nothing will happen, if you admit it, we'll put you in jail."
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  14. bubla5
    bubla5 26 October 2013 13: 32
    0
    There is definitely not a single serious revelatory document and statement, wiretap-it is everywhere and for everyone, regardless of ranks, politicians, they are all and everywhere on the hook of the special services, and even in vain he stuck here in Russia, we probably like him only unpaid-in structures missing
  15. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 26 October 2013 13: 35
    +4
    And I always said that Medvedev’s iPad will not bring to good))))))
  16. andruha70
    andruha70 26 October 2013 14: 35
    +1
    I don’t understand: is this article an advertisement for a new site? or the story that some leaders of some countries are booby? what even to me, a simple layman, it’s clear - you can listen to any phone ... but if it’s possible, then there are those who need it.
  17. negeroi
    negeroi 26 October 2013 14: 49
    +1
    Snowden is the same brand as a dummy like global warming. There is a lot of noise, a smokescreen, a convenient excuse to get money from the budget for interested structures, an excuse to present a thread to a che-thread. In general, it is convenient if not for everyone, then very many.
  18. Shaman 21101973
    Shaman 21101973 26 October 2013 14: 50
    +1
    Business, business and nothing more ... Ms. Merkel.
    There is a saying, "When money sings, all the rest of the music stops .."
    The United States is currently located and is approaching a financial and political collapse. And oh how they do not want it ...
    And I am not a prophet or Vaenga; I feel that difficult and difficult times await us. These guys will sell their mother and grandmother.
  19. voliador
    voliador 26 October 2013 15: 04
    +1
    For scrappers, it’s a big mess that Snowden made it public. And surveillance is carried out by everyone and everyone, the main thing is that it would be kept secret.
    1. SSR
      SSR 26 October 2013 16: 15
      0
      And the scale shows that the same Europeans, in violation of international laws, landed and searched the presidential board, Pasha said the FAS and the Europeans took under the hood. Russia sheltered so Barack Obamych immediately canceled the meeting
  20. Danafxnumx
    Danafxnumx 26 October 2013 16: 54
    +1
    some kindergarten ...

    "White Lord" (Merkel and Oland) stupidly PR in front of their hmm ... people, because it's a no brainer that everyone listens to everyone ...
  21. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 26 October 2013 16: 56
    +2
    ... listened ... listen ... will continue to listen! And this is always ... everywhere ... by all ... without exception !!! This is a vital need. Did you know about it? KNEW !!!! Knew EVERYTHING! But it's one thing just to know ... it's another thing to know with documentary evidence! SNOWDEN (and you argued until blue in the face ... whether you need to give him political asylum or not) and there is this extremely necessary confirmation (DE FACTO and DE YURO !!!) which allows you to stomp your foot ... and say "FOO!" - after all, everyone needs to keep "FACE!" ... Well, at the same time, put in place and enjoy the fact that they clicked on the nose of the enemy's very over-the-top intelligence officers ...
    A year or two will pass and everything will return to square one ...
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 26 October 2013 17: 34
    +1
    For some reason, Merkel introduced a conversation with Obama.
    Yes, we, uh, a little bit, uh, well, quite a bit, so that the terrorists do not sneak in.
    We definitely won’t.
    Since such information falls into the press, it means that someone needs it!
  23. ReifA
    ReifA 26 October 2013 18: 14
    0
    Whatever it is, America sets up against itself, if not the top, then ordinary people of other states, and this is good.
  24. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 27 October 2013 00: 59
    +1
    According to Snowden, US intelligence agencies followed the heads of Russia, Iran, China, and India. Such information confirmed by prints of incoming and outgoing calls leaders of these and other countries who were represented by the publication.

    The mere fact of wiretapping is far from a sensation. This is done by everyone who can, and with everyone who succeeds. More strange would be the absence of wiretaps or attempts to use them. That’s in general. It is better, of course, when by the principle: not caught - not a thief, but not fatal, even if you get caught.
    As for the particulars with Snowden, what is the use of this information of his? The presence of the fact of wiretapping as the very fact? Confirmed by printouts. Well, it was confirmed. So what? Any stunning-secret-compromising facts made public? There's no such thing. The printout of telephone connections itself is valuable in very narrow aspects. The overwhelming majority of all special services don't care about it. If a transcript of subscriber conversations is attached to the printout of telephone connections, it can sometimes be worthwhile. Although, as a rule, there is 95-99% of the usual chatter. Only the rest of the minuscule can be the information you need. And then, if it is uttered bluntly directly, and not veiled by allegories and then deciphered by the method of psychoanalysis, which does not give an absolutely reliable result. This is where the whole "sensation" ends ... Here it is more likely necessary not to kick the mattress mats, but to those who were bugged themselves. For slipping through the wiretap. FAPSI and its analogs (each country has its own) should be marked with the letter "ZU" and cleaned with a bannik. And gentleness in such cases is permissible only immediately before suicide.
    Here, I think, the question is completely different. Who and why stirred up this "circus" with Snowden ??? Where do the "legs grow" from and what is the goal? That he is in Russia by accident is as likely as the presidency of the GDP in the United States. The fuss around this Snowden is more like a screen. Everyone pretends that he is smarter and more cunning than his rival. Here someone, someone, for some reason and somehow decided to give a kick. It remains to observe - who, to whom, why and how? hi
  25. scientist
    scientist 27 October 2013 11: 04
    0
    First Wikileaks is now Snowden, what's next? I think it will be financial fraud with the "gold of the 3rd Reich"! belay Meanwhile, the crisis is growing, public debt is growing. Attempts to solve economic problems through war, as the United States and the West used to do, did not lead to the expected effect.
    The problem is that there are laws of socio-economic development of society, which are laid down in the basis of the universe. No Rockefellers, Rothschilds and "secret orders" are able to change them. Satan may be helping those, but certainly not God. And their success is like the ability to use socio-economic laws for their own purposes. For example, in the 18th century, many knew the laws of thermodynamics, but the steam locomotive was invented by Richard Trevithick. Therefore, if you know how to use the laws, then you will make the right bets, make effective mechanisms and always be in +, if you try to act contrary to some inner convictions, you will inevitably at least go broke or die.
  26. Baorope
    Baorope 27 October 2013 21: 54
    0
    Plum about Russia ....
    Looks like Dimon kept secrets in the cloud :)
  27. Migari
    Migari 27 October 2013 23: 59
    0
    Quote: ivshubarin
    Something muddy all with Snowden

    With Snowden, everything is in order, but the States and its partners from Snowden, not only stirs up, vomits to vomit.
  28. Migari
    Migari 28 October 2013 00: 00
    0
    Quote: ivshubarin
    Something muddy all with Snowden

    With Snowden, everything is in order, but the States and its partners from Snowden, not only stirs up, vomits to vomit.