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China received a new Ka-32 helicopter for the Antarctic

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China received a new Ka-32 helicopter for the Antarctic



As reported on the web resource aviaforum.ru, on October 9, 2013 the State Oceanic Administration of China (State Oceanic Administration, the term State Maritime Administration of the People’s Republic of China is also used in Russian-language literature) was built on its order at the Russian Kumertausky OJSC aviation production enterprise (KUMAPP) Ka-32A11BC multi-purpose helicopter. The helicopter (serial number 523324159836, serial number 98-36) was delivered to Qingdao (Liutin Airport) by IL-76 transport plane of the Russian Emergencies Ministry on September 26, 2013. The cost of acquiring this helicopter for the State China's oceanographic control amounted to about 100 million yuan (about 530 million rubles).

This Ka-32А11ВС helicopter received the Chinese civilian registration B-7817 and was acquired by the Chinese side specifically to replace the similar Ka-32А11ВС helicopter (registered with B-7810, serial number 98-16) of the 2009 supply of the year based on the Chinese architect, who was injected by the architect. and crashed in Antarctica 8 December 2011 of the year (as reported by our blog). The new B-7817 helicopter is also intended to be stationed on the indicated Xuě Lóng ship (the Soviet 10621 project of the type "Ivan Papanin", completed for China at the Kherson shipyard in 1993 year) owned by the Arctic Ocean and Antarctic Administration of the State Oceanographic management of the PRC. Already on November 8, a new helicopter with this vessel will be sent to the 30 Chinese Antarctic Expedition.

This helicopter became the third Ka-32A, delivered by KumAPP in the People's Republic of China in the year 2013. Earlier this year, one helicopter of this type (serial number 98-39, Chinese registration B-7822) was received by the Chinese company Jiangsu Huayu General Aviation Co. Ltd. (Nanjing), and the other (serial number 98-39, Chinese hull number 15063) is the fire brigade of the People’s Armed Police of the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region in Ordos County (Hohhot).
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  1. soldat1945
    soldat1945 25 October 2013 06: 53
    11
    Apparently cheaper to buy than copy, or not a big need, nevertheless, thanks to the Chinese for supporting the helicopter industry in Russia!
    1. aktanir
      aktanir 25 October 2013 08: 06
      0
      HALF BILLIONS for a helicopter, outline where we are heading
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 25 October 2013 11: 02
        +1
        Quote: aktanir
        HALF a helicopter, outline

        Make all the parts and assemblies with your own handles, assemble and try to set a price with your own hands. Now it’s our own, let's see what it will pour into.
        Something can be bought, but not in a landfill or in Mitino in the market !!! laughing
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 October 2013 08: 32
      +7
      you can’t copy reliability ... yes
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 25 October 2013 09: 03
        +1
        "and crashed in Antarctica on December 8, 2011 (as reported by our blog)."

        And who will refresh the memory, what are the causes of the crash?
    3. Airman
      Airman 25 October 2013 10: 07
      +1
      Do they have a serial number 98-39 in two places based?
    4. alone
      alone 25 October 2013 10: 29
      +1
      Do you think the purchase of one helicopter is a great support for the Russian helicopter industry?
      rather, selling copiers to copiers, put an end to the future of the ka-32a11vs.will copy and sell to others at a price lower than Russia.
      1. soldat1945
        soldat1945 25 October 2013 13: 32
        +1
        What prevented them from copying the previous purchased helicopters?
  2. Civil
    Civil 25 October 2013 06: 53
    +5
    The Kumertau Plant is still alive. But the city is on the edge.
    1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      +5
      Alive, alive, and not so bad, this city is not far from me.
      That's just a pity that again the Chinese drove something. Now they turn on the printer and it started ...
      A NEW SUPER TECHNOLOGICAL XJZ-32А11ВС will appear.
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 25 October 2013 09: 11
        +1
        Co-mates are already about 60 years old, as they are trying to implement, so far, apart from Kamov, all the files have.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 October 2013 08: 29
      +4
      and we have most of the cities "on the edge", especially those where factories were city-forming, but only the foundations remained ... now they call it a "depressed" city.
      1. 10kAzAk01
        10kAzAk01 25 October 2013 08: 59
        +4
        yes, just 50 km from the regional center, drive away any and all cities on the "edge"
        1. Manul
          Manul 25 October 2013 09: 59
          0
          belay I was going to put a plus. I just missed it.
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 25 October 2013 09: 14
      0
      For 2012 year:
      JSC "Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise" - 17 helicopters (one Ka-31, five Ka-32A11BC, 11 Ka-226)
  3. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 25 October 2013 06: 54
    +4
    Somehow not even interesting news. I would even say sad.
  4. Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 25 October 2013 06: 56
    +3
    Now they will copy the biaxial system for the development of the Arctic.
    1. air wolf
      air wolf 25 October 2013 08: 54
      +6
      If you have not copied since 1993, then they will not copy it now. I’m a former helicopter pilot, I flew on KA-27PL and Mi-8T I will say frankly, there is nothing more complicated and technologically advanced than the Ka-27-32 helicopter, and all planes are just an ordinary glider with an engine. What to spin in this helicopter is not only a simple layman, but also a professional pilot of the plane does not even imagine. For information, the word plane came from the words self-flies, so draw a conclusion. The only unresolved problem with the Ka-27 is the gearbox, the temperature of which should be 90 degrees, plus or minus 2 degrees, if higher or lower, leave the helicopter. But in general, this is a miracle helicopter. And my opinion, why the heck was developing the Ka-52, when it was possible to upgrade the Ka-29, install the VK-2500 and the hinged blades and saved a ton of money, I don’t know why they started this program with the Ka-52 and Mi-28? The upgraded Mi-24 is not nearly worse than the Mi-28.
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 25 October 2013 09: 14
        +1
        Given that the Mi-24 is conceptually defective and completely fails in Afghanistan? How the cargo Ka-29 can replace the Ka-52, which, incidentally, was obtained by banal replacement of the Ka-50 cab, all the mechanics there have been worked out for a long time.
        1. air wolf
          air wolf 25 October 2013 10: 35
          +2
          In terms of weight and performance characteristics, the Ka-29 and Ka-52 are very close, if the Ka-29 is modernized, no combat helicopters will be needed by the Russian Federation. By maneuverability, the coaxial scheme is more efficient than the single-rotor one. When I went in for landing on a co-driver, I never slowed down and 50 meters before the landing gate did a pitch of 25-30 degrees for a couple of seconds, the speed decreased to zero and sat down calmly. With Mi-8, such a thing did not roll, it was necessary to slow down a kilometer before landing. But the cargo compartment during piloting does not interfere and it is very necessary in battle, for landing and removal of the wounded.
          1. Avenger711
            Avenger711 25 October 2013 13: 12
            0
            Of course it’s more effective, otherwise they would not have bothered with it, but how will the Ka-29 replace a clean drummer? There is at least armor on it, there aren’t a number of necessary systems, and a helicopter will not master a ton or two of ammunition and landing at once, in fact, the Mi-24 will not master, never carrying an amphibious assault. True, the Mi-28 has a technological compartment for working inside where, if necessary, you can throw something, or pick up a couple of people. Mi-24 in the Afghan mountains with full ammunition did not always take off.

            Here is a bunch of Ka-52 (with Ka-50 for purely anti-tank regiments) and Ka-29 would really steer, and for small shipments on a straight Ka-60.
    2. svp67
      svp67 26 October 2013 10: 03
      0
      Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
      Now they will copy the biaxial system for the development of the Arctic.

      Hurry for the "naval aviation groupings" ...
  5. TAIM
    TAIM 25 October 2013 06: 59
    +3
    so bright. like a toy. arctic coloring wink
    1. bask
      bask 25 October 2013 07: 34
      +3
      China received a new Ka-32 helicopter for the Antarctic
      Today, 06: 39 Print

      Where is China, and WHERE OUR RUSSIAN ARCTIC-cool.
      Yellow and there, like cockroaches climb.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 25 October 2013 11: 11
        +1
        Greetings. It seems that someone in the morning confused the Arctic with the Antarctic. Ah ah ah! fellow
  6. fklj
    fklj 25 October 2013 07: 02
    0
    Sales go, sales people rejoice ...
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 25 October 2013 07: 10
      +1
      Quote: fklj
      ... sales people rejoicing ...

      Otherwise, the Americans have stocked up either in the EU.
      1. fklj
        fklj 25 October 2013 07: 20
        +1
        Yes, even in Burkina Faso. Russia will not get rich from a unit sale (even if they don’t transfer money overseas), and it’s easy to get a competitor.
        1. Bykov.
          Bykov. 25 October 2013 07: 27
          +1
          Quote: fklj
          ... Yes, even in Burkina Faso. Russia will not get rich from a unit sale (even if they don’t transfer money overseas), and it’s easy to get a competitor ...

          They will earn, not a billion, of course, but still the money will come in handy for the plant. About a competitor. And what exactly prevents the Chinese, even without this purchase, to "copy" everything they need?
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 25 October 2013 09: 02
          +3
          Quote: fklj
          Russia will not get rich from unit sales

          Russia no, factory yes.
        3. Avenger711
          Avenger711 25 October 2013 09: 17
          +2
          Are you waiting for sales of 100500 helicopters for highly specialized tasks? The total output of the Ka-32, is unlikely to reach 200 pieces, it is ridiculous to expect someone to bother with copying.
  7. Bykov.
    Bykov. 25 October 2013 07: 06
    -1
    This Ka-32A11BC helicopter ... was purchased by the Chinese side specifically to replace a similar Ka-32A11BC helicopter ... 2009 delivery of the year ...

    What? ... after five years, a complete replacement, only in no other way?
  8. makarov
    makarov 25 October 2013 07: 10
    0
    The first major Chinese expedition to the Antarctic took place in 2009. Naturally, in public, the main task was to research in strictly scientific fields. I do not exclude that in practice this took place. But the expedition's helicopters were mainly used for searching and collecting meteorites. It was in the Antarctic conditions - its intactness, the search for meteorites was not a difficult task.
  9. Veter
    Veter 25 October 2013 07: 29
    +2
    Helping a competitor in the Arctic. Sadly
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 25 October 2013 07: 36
      +3
      I will correct the helicopter for Antarctica .. (south pole) But soon I think they will also snoop in the Arctic)))
      1. Veter
        Veter 25 October 2013 07: 43
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Antarctica .. (south pole

        Thank you, I didn’t notice.

        Quote: MIKHAN
        But soon I think they will start snooping in the Arctic)))

        This is 100%. It may be beneficial for us to cooperate with them, but we need to know the measure
      2. Airman
        Airman 25 October 2013 09: 10
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        But soon I think they will start snooping in the Arctic)))

        Why will they start? They are already diving in and claiming a "piece" of the Arctic. Now everyone will climb into the Arctic, and "our" powers that be squander it right and left, forgetting about who explored and settled in the Arctic.
    2. vlad_pr
      vlad_pr 25 October 2013 11: 20
      0
      The Arctic and the Antarctic are slightly different things. All the same, different poles of the globe.
  10. morpogr
    morpogr 25 October 2013 07: 40
    0
    And they have already built a base there and how many of them are there in China?
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 25 October 2013 11: 15
      0
      RIA Novosti, with reference to the Xinhua News Agency, reports that by 2015 China plans to build two new research stations in Antarctica. At the moment, China already has at its disposal three stations located in Antarctica. These are Changcheng, Zhongshan and Kunlun.
      Specialists plan to place one of the new stations between Zhongshan and Kunlun for scientific work from December to March. In the future, geological, geomagnetic, glaciological and other studies will be conducted there.
      Another research center that China intends to create on Victoria Land to study the ice continent will operate year-round. At its base, Chinese scientists plan to conduct multidisciplinary bioecological studies.
      China has been conducting a practical study of Antarctica since 1984.
  11. major071
    major071 25 October 2013 07: 48
    +7
    Soon, in the Antarctic, instead of penguins, some Chinese will be. Or maybe they are already among the penguins crowded into small groups of several thousand people?
    1. Airman
      Airman 25 October 2013 08: 54
      0
      Quote: major071
      Soon, in the Antarctic, instead of penguins, some Chinese will be. Or maybe they are already among the penguins crowded into small groups of several thousand people?

      For a few thousand? Small scale! For several millions!
  12. makarov
    makarov 25 October 2013 07: 52
    0
    Quote: morpogr
    And they have already built a base there and how many of them are there in China?

    There were two bases. At present, it is not known.
  13. slovak007
    slovak007 25 October 2013 08: 07
    +1
    Eh, we sell everything ...
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 October 2013 08: 12
    0
    "Lip no fool!" No wonder there is such an interest in the Arctic. It makes sense to wrestle with other competitors, including the Russian Federation.
  15. King
    King 25 October 2013 08: 20
    0
    Russia needs to keep an eye on with the chinas on one side. on the other hand, cooperation with China in the Antarctic is part of Russia's fee for China's support for Russia on international issues, including Syria
  16. Tatarus
    Tatarus 25 October 2013 08: 40
    +3
    A secret partition agreement is needed. They have the south pole - the north to us. And to all the rest of the Sahara laughing
    1. Airman
      Airman 25 October 2013 10: 04
      +1
      Quote: Tatarus
      A secret partition agreement is needed. They have the south pole - the north to us. And to all the rest of the Sahara laughing

      And they will quickly cut the whole of Antarctica into icebergs and start selling them to the Sahara.
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 25 October 2013 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: Tatarus
      And to all the rest of the Sahara

      Yes Yes Yes! Especially for someone selected. They love very warmly. Let them get warm.
  17. Avenger711
    Avenger711 25 October 2013 09: 36
    +2
    Lord, what a stupid people, firstly not in the Arctic, where the Chinese would not be allowed into the sector anyway without permission, and secondly, in the Antarctic, they bought a small-series helicopter, which is easier to buy than to develop, the USSR to the Ka family -27 VERY long walked. The Chinese in their entire history have not managed to illegally copy anything, all these variations on the MiG-21, J-11 were made on the basis of documentation that was legally purchased or received as part of the assistance (before Khrushchev).

    And to whom to sell something? You think sold in some Zimbabwe, or Honduras product can not be easily studied by those who want? There was only one defense against this, selling only large parties or not selling at all if the technology is critical. The question is, freaking civil helicopter is critical? And what is more critical, used in small quantities by different firefighters, rescuers, builders, in general, all those who need a helicopter that really can hang, albeit at the cost of a complex transmission and increased resistance in horizontal flight on a propeller column (although the Mi-28 judging by the max . Speed ​​even here compared with the Ka-52), an aligner, or Mi-8, which the whole world takes, like hot cakes, and copying that would be economically profitable.
  18. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 25 October 2013 18: 43
    0
    What nafig Antarctica? if you don’t know how to make helicopters for the Antarctic, there is no Antarctic itself. Antarctica is not bought, it is conquered by the labors and scientific achievements of the people. And just do it, you need to drive them from there with pissed rags.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 25 October 2013 21: 14
      0
      Antarctica actually does not belong to anyone and is demilitarized.