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In Moscow, the heirs threw the political testament of the Hero of the Soviet Union to the dump

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In Moscow, the heirs threw the political testament of the Hero of the Soviet Union to the dump

On October 23, heirs of the Hero of the Soviet Union Ivan Berezutsky threw books at a dump in one of the courtyards of the town of Zhukovsky near Moscow. Many of the books - with inscriptions. In some photos, greeting cards are enclosed. In "Memoirs and Reflections" G.K. Zhukov, a REGNUM correspondent, found a piece of paper written, apparently, by Berezutsky himself, judging from such lines as "In our unit, Alexey Maresiev accomplished military exploits."


The text written in 1990's, is addressed to the "young generation". The author compares the policy of NATO and the United States with German aggression, and Bill Clinton with Adolf Hitler: "At present, the American aggressors, NATO under Clinton's leadership, are waging a consistent struggle, political and military, with the aim of gaining dominance over the world." “In these conditions, peace must be defended by the readiness to defend our Homeland, our social system, our ideals. Gunpowder, as they say, must always be dry,” Ivan Berezutsky called at the end of the last century.

Ivan Mikhailovich Berezutsky was born in 1918. During World War II, pilot Berezutsky participated in battles in the Stalingrad, Kalininsky, Northwestern, Bryansk, 1 Baltic fronts, was a flight commander and deputy squadron commander. 14 May 1943 of the year in the area of ​​the town of Demyansk of the Novgorod region on a fighter "La-5" Berezutsky rammed an enemy bomber by ramming. All in all, he has 254 combat sorties and 18 destroyed enemy planes. The title of Hero of the Soviet Union, Major Ivan Berezutsky, was awarded the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of February 23 of the year 1945. In the ranks of the Soviet Army, the hero served until 1969, he was transferred to the reserve in the rank of colonel. Died on 2000. He was buried at the Bykovsky cemetery in Zhukovsky.

This is not the first time that archival documents have been discovered at Zhukovsky dump. In 2000, the archive of Hero of the Soviet Union, test pilot Oleg Gudkov (1931 - 1973), including the original of the Charter of the Hero of the Soviet Union, was found in the garbage heap. Documents handed over to the city museum.

Zhukovsky - the capital of the Soviet and Russian aviation science, a city with a record number of heroes per capita.


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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 24 October 2013 11: 05
    57
    There is nothing sacred for these two of you ... I didn’t, because thanks to them, these guzzle and crap and nothing more is needed.
    1. Airman
      Airman 24 October 2013 12: 35
      37
      Quote: Edward72
      There is nothing sacred for these two of you ... I didn’t, because thanks to them, these guzzle and crap and nothing more is needed.

      You can’t answer better than Vysotsky:

      And neither the church nor the tavern - nothing is holy
      No guys, everything is wrong, everything is wrong, guys ...
      1. timer
        timer 24 October 2013 19: 18
        +7
        The moral and psychological decomposition of our population breaks all records. This, probably, was not even expected by the foreign owners of our liberals and shit. Our people are like a blindfolded person, they don’t know where and for what purpose, and judging by their indifference to he doesn’t want to know what is happening. And it’s not the people who are guilty, the filthy liberals and crap demons, whom we have bred as uncut dogs, are just guilty people just need a national leader, a close analogue of Stalin, for example, who will create a system that will keep bureaucrats by the throat Not to steal and working properly, and the fifth column unichtozhit.A nats.ideyu I suggest the next-NATION, order, justice! I am interested in talking with those who support my point of view. Let's start the correspondence, for starters. My mailbox is [email protected]
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 24 October 2013 14: 38
      +2
      Quote: Edward72
      There is nothing sacred for these two of you ... I didn’t, because thanks to them, these guzzle and crap and nothing more is needed.

      Well, probably the heirs threw out, whom he raised and received ...
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 24 October 2013 16: 01
        13
        Quote: Nayhas
        Well, probably the heirs threw

        And it is impossible to throw the heirs out of the apartment, which the veteran must have received?
        Was it difficult to take it to the museum? GOALS AND !!! am Sorry for the expression.
        1. does it
          does it 24 October 2013 19: 22
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          And heirs cannot be thrown out of the apartment, which the veteran must have received, is it difficult? Was it difficult to take it to the museum? GOALS AND !!! Sorry for the expression.

          It remains to quote the phrase Brand Tullia TSICERONA "About times, about manners" ....
    3. Algor73
      Algor73 24 October 2013 15: 48
      13
      I agree, nothing sacred. And where is this holiness? Who? You read on the forum - it’s all for, you go out on the street - (in Russia too) a completely different country is being outlined. Only on May 9 and remember the Heroes. And in everyday life, who thinks about them? Schools? Work collectives? So I have to be surprised. And why be surprised, because we all see for ourselves ...
      1. timer
        timer 24 October 2013 19: 34
        +4
        Everyone who left their opinion on this note is right. Yes, there is no holiness to anything. Neither to their roots, nor to their heroes of World War I and 1. But the worst thing is the indifference of the population to the current situation both in Russia and and in Ukraine.
        I do not mean any opposition performances. These are paid performances with predetermined puppets and selfish goals that have nothing with the aspirations of an ordinary person. The culprits of all this mess and cynicism are liberals and crap, led by our, so to speak, "leaders." These traitors destroyed the Union, and brought into our life the vile ideas of consumerism and individualism, which were supplied to them by overseas owners. But most of all go to young people (the slogan - drink beer and take everything from life). And the rest does not give a damn. People forgetting their past, will not have a decent future!
    4. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 24 October 2013 17: 22
      +7
      And what is there to be surprised if everything that the current generation knows about the Second World War, they learned from "Private Ryan", "Inglorious Coves" and "Hitler Kaput"?!? To urgently introduce a separate subject "History of the Second World War" in educational institutions!
      1. dddym
        dddym 24 October 2013 17: 53
        +7
        here, unfortunately, there will be a problem - the teacher can take a slider ...
        1. Grandson of Veteran
          Grandson of Veteran 25 October 2013 00: 37
          +1
          but this is OUR problem ..... My mother is a historian with 40 years of experience. Ready to teach before the 100th, crying, watching the current situation!
    5. waisson
      waisson 24 October 2013 21: 10
      +3
      there weren’t enough brains. They could donate things to a museum or school. HERO OF THE SOVIET UNION
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 October 2013 22: 24
        +2
        Quote: waisson
        there weren’t enough brains. They could donate things to a museum or school. HERO OF THE SOVIET UNION

        In my opinion, one cannot get rid of such things at all! Keep as a memory! I myself have a lot of antiques in my family from great-grandmothers and great-grandfathers, many are pre-revolutionary, and they always kept everything, even when they lived in a small apartment with the whole family ...
    6. Klibanophoros
      Klibanophoros 24 October 2013 21: 24
      +4
      Another classic wrote: "The housing problem only spoiled them ..."
    7. Petr1
      Petr1 25 October 2013 06: 52
      -2
      it, do not judge and will not be judged :). But you can certainly have your opinion ...
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 25 October 2013 09: 10
        +1
        Apparently, the heirs do not need such a legacy. They had enough of an apartment.
  2. Zerstorer
    Zerstorer 24 October 2013 11: 11
    11
    The only thing that can be offered is to buy the archives from such "relatives".
    1. Altona
      Altona 24 October 2013 11: 27
      22
      They could not sell it, they were thrown out of anger ... If only they would offer a museum or a society of veterans ...
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 24 October 2013 11: 41
        14
        Yes, they simply do not see the value, so they threw the "trash" into the dump. Maybe they even decided to "put things in order" in the closet ... It's sad.

        Welcome hi
        1. zart_arn
          zart_arn 24 October 2013 12: 33
          10
          I agree. Sadly, our story is not interesting to us. Honestly, only honestly - who and when was the last time he read such memoirs? I admit a long time ago.
          Many never read at all.
          1. ty60
            ty60 24 October 2013 21: 21
            +4
            last year I read Sudoplatov’s memoirs. In the summer of Starinov’s memoirs
          2. I am
            I am 25 October 2013 10: 05
            0
            About 7 years ago I read "When Fortresses Don't Surrender" and I reread Simonov's three-volume edition.
        2. Toporkoff
          Toporkoff 24 October 2013 13: 04
          11
          now "everything has a price and nothing has value"
      2. seller trucks
        seller trucks 24 October 2013 12: 04
        +9
        Quote: Altona
        .Although they would offer a museum or a society of veterans ...


        to the nearest school, the very place. such cynicism just kills me, the most interesting thing is that it’s not teenagers who are snotty, but quite adult people
        1. Genur
          Genur 24 October 2013 17: 20
          +3
          And certainly not a teenager voted AGAINST the article. Such, apparently, will not be withdrawn for a long time.
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 24 October 2013 14: 42
      +7
      Quote: Zerstorer
      The only thing that can be offered is to buy the archives from such "relatives"


      Actually +100500
      Relatives didn’t live with a hero, but with a real person.
      And they treated him like they do in everyday life.
      Redeem - and so that everyone knows that the state. archives, for example, buy from the heirs documents of people related to our history.
  3. self-propelled
    self-propelled 24 October 2013 11: 14
    16
    a nation that does not remember its past has no future. where are we going ?!
  4. Migari
    Migari 24 October 2013 11: 27
    +4
    Although they say that "the family has its black sheep", but this does not fit into any framework. Forgot what honor, conscience and elementary shame are.
    1. fklj
      fklj 24 October 2013 11: 44
      10
      Too many freaks have become, per capita.
  5. Migari
    Migari 24 October 2013 11: 28
    +4
    Although they say that "the family has its black sheep", but this does not fit into any framework. Forgot what honor, conscience and elementary shame are.
  6. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 24 October 2013 11: 38
    11
    It is pointless to be indignant, the society for the most part, especially the youth, is not interested in such concepts as honor, conscience. Money is the only measure of both "honor" and "decency".
  7. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 24 October 2013 11: 38
    +2
    Heirs, their mother, there are simply no words ...
  8. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 24 October 2013 11: 43
    +8
    I think the documents for the apartment, the cottage and what else the grandfather got there are stored in cancer.
  9. grafrozow
    grafrozow 24 October 2013 11: 45
    +8
    There will still be roofing felts, a generation of Pepsi-Cola is growing, or anything holy ...
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 24 October 2013 13: 42
      11
      Will be? it is already there. here, my dear Lipetsk
      19.09.2013/87/XNUMX XNUMX-year-old resident of Lipetsk appealed to the police with a statement about the theft.
      According to the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation for the Lipetsk Region, on the afternoon of September 19, two women, under the pretext of transferring food, entered his apartment on Khoroshavina Street and stole an officer’s tablet containing 100 rubles, personal documents, a certificate of registration of the right to an apartment, gold items, Order of the Patriotic War II degree and about 000 award medals.
      11.07.2013
      In Lipetsk, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War was robbed. The Order of the Red Star, eight anniversary medals and a can of stew were stolen from the front-line soldier. The criminal climbed into the pensioner's house through a window on the veranda and got out the same way. Police found the attacker by fingerprints.
      Lipetsk, May 21, 2013
      The pensioner told the police that her father’s jacket with orders and medals had disappeared from the house.
      As it turned out later, the man who stole the well-deserved rewards visited the family of the deceased veteran and knew where his jacket was.
      The 62-year-old resident of the village of Nikolaevka, Dobrovsky district, discovered the loss even before Victory Day, May 8. The woman immediately went to the police and wrote a statement, according to the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Lipetsk region.
      The police searched the thief for ten days. It turned out to be a 32-year-old unemployed Lipan. In his apartment they found a jacket with the orders of the "Red Star", "World War II", medals "60 years of Victory in the Battle of Stalingrad."
      It is possible that the jacket was stolen in April, but the mistress of the house at that time was not in place - she left the village for 20 days.
      Now the front-line awards have been returned to the daughter of the veteran, and the thief will answer for his act according to the law.
      Lipetsk, May 22, 2013
      Lipchanin robbed private houses from January to April this year. And he endured almost everything: cameras, laptops, televisions, cell phones, jewelry and money. He penetrated into the house simply: he broke a plastic window and climbed into the house through it.
      When the criminal decided to profit from the orders and medals of the veteran of the Second World War and the Department of Internal Affairs, he miscalculated. He stole the awards of a 94-year-old woman, including the Order of the Red Banner of Labor, the Order of the Badge of Honor, the medal Veteran of Labor, For Valiant Labor in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, and 20 Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945. " and many others. However, when I took them to an appraiser for sale, I found out that they are inexpensive. After that, the thief threw the merits of the veteran into the street, according to the information and public relations department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in the Lipetsk region.
      Despite the fact that the robber acted carefully and with gloves, forensic experts still managed to detect fingerprints on orders and medals. Then the thief was found and detained. He is suspected of 16 thefts from the houses of Lipans.
      Now the 38-year-old criminal will be responsible for the stolen property by law.
      and I think such things are happening more and more in every region of Russia. KEEPING OFF?
      1. military
        military 24 October 2013 14: 45
        +5
        half a year ago, on the trading platform of one of the forums, a full set of the Order of Parental Glory (5 items + a full set of all docks with the president's signature) was put up for sale ... the gentleman - father from the Shuisky district of the Vladimir region ... could not resist and asked the seller about the fate of the "holy father" if anything had happened to him by accident ... replied that the saint is alive and well, well fed and well-fed, dissects around the area in a brand new Porsche Cayenne ... and the "tsatsuki" pop sold because they are unnecessary for him ...
        so that...
        Quote: RBLip
        KEEPING OFF?

        has long been... yes
        by the way, almost everything is on sale in the network ... including, the orders of Lenin, Suvorov, Kutuzov, Khmelnitsky, Nevsky ... GSS and GTS medals ... Order of Courage ... am
  10. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 24 October 2013 11: 48
    13
    The relatives (heirs) of these Heroes include the words of the poet: the glorious great-grandfathers of the great great-grandchildren are filthy (translation from Ukrainian).
  11. Lesnik
    Lesnik 24 October 2013 11: 50
    12
    And I don’t think that it was the heirs who did it!
    Raider seizure of an apartment - luggage in a landfill.
    Manuscripts and documents of the Twice Hero of the USSR Colonel General V. Petrov in exactly the same way we ended up in a landfill in 2000 in the hero city of Kiev, these are the pies!
  12. stalker
    stalker 24 October 2013 11: 55
    0
    It is better to forget your heroes what is going on there in Zhukovsky, there is no government or something
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 24 October 2013 14: 48
      +4
      Quote: stalker
      It is better to forget your heroes what is going on there in Zhukovsky, there is no government or something


      And what kind of government can there be?
      These are their documents, they can do what they want by law.

      It is necessary to redeem if it is a historical value, moreover, so that everyone knows.
      To the old people through the advice of veterans to bring - to all the heirs will be told 100 times.
      And nothing will be lost.
  13. yurii p
    yurii p 24 October 2013 11: 56
    +7
    "At present, the American aggressors, NATO under the leadership of Clinton are conducting a consistent struggle, political and military, in order to conquer domination over the world." "..... judging by the facts described in this article, we lost this fight, apparently Hitler's heirs came in our country, otherwise who can throw books in the trash, Hitler threw books into the fire, which are worthy heirs of the 3rd Reich.
  14. SPAAARTAAA
    SPAAARTAAA 24 October 2013 11: 58
    +8
    We have enough space where to put a computer, TV, refrigerator, closet, but not enough space for letters and books of our ancestors. I want to cry ..
  15. Chukcha
    Chukcha 24 October 2013 12: 00
    +5
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    The relatives (heirs) of these Heroes include the words of the poet: the glorious great-grandfathers of the great great-grandchildren are filthy (translation from Ukrainian).


    The article does not say that these are "relatives". Someone threw it out, the one who apparently does not need all this. And the relatives may no longer be left.
    Already what they found and announced is good. Most likely they will hand over to a museum or a library, or maybe people who care can clean themselves up. And it’s good that they turned out to be, as opposed to those who threw.
  16. Fitter65
    Fitter65 24 October 2013 12: 06
    0
    Yes, no words ...
  17. individual
    individual 24 October 2013 12: 19
    12
    Until the propagandists of the Western world, "historians" of the followers of DM Volkogonov and Y. Afanasyev: the Pivovarovs, Svanidze, Mlechins and other Gozmans, are removed from the air and press of the state media, one cannot wait for the protection of state interests and the patriotic education of the people.
    The impoverished people survive without moral principles and have lost their heroes.
    If the authorities allow this, then the task of the authorities is an understatement the roles of Heroes of Soviet Russia, and therefore the Soviet people.
    The heirs of the USSR became extras of the structure of capitalist society in which the shifters became in power despising everything Soviet.
    By voting for this power, I also unwittingly supported this corruption.
    We see, but it is a pity that it was too late and allowed this "nest" to power, being careful that they would come even worse.
    And worse not where.
    1. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 24 October 2013 13: 02
      +2
      I agree, although it is sad from all this. This is how we ask for ... our values. not material, but spiritual, patriotic. Not all of them are like that, but every year there are more of them. This is the influence of imposed ideals, not ours, let's say, I don't want to use "Western" ones. And then defenders of "their" morals will swoop down. I made sure that such people also have a place to be)))
    2. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 25 October 2013 00: 35
      +2
      Quote: individ
      If the authorities allow this, then the task of the authorities is to play down the role of the Heroes of Soviet Russia, and therefore the Soviet people.


      Quote: individ
      We are seeing, but it is a pity that it is too late ...



      Well said. You +

      ... and sometimes we don’t admit our mistakes.
  18. makarov
    makarov 24 October 2013 12: 29
    +3
    It’s bitter to read, see, hear.
    Yes, such heirs can only be called legal, since they sold the moral inheritance along with the orders of the deceased hero.
  19. asadov
    asadov 24 October 2013 12: 45
    +1
    Bitter to see and hear about it. We crush the old without creating new.
  20. kostik1301
    kostik1301 24 October 2013 12: 50
    +1
    Dermocrats do not want to value their own story, now it’s sideways ..............
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 October 2013 16: 06
      +3
      Quote: kostik1301
      Shitwings don't want to value their own story

      Our history is simply dangerous to them! So they try - to throw it away so that no one gets to the bottom!
  21. tennis
    tennis 24 October 2013 12: 50
    +2
    The heirs are apparently liberal democrats, what value is it to them ...
  22. pensioner
    pensioner 24 October 2013 12: 55
    +2
    It is to what a bestial state you have to sink to stop understanding the value of such documents ?? Yes, every word there is worthy of the stamp "Keep forever."
  23. kafa
    kafa 24 October 2013 13: 03
    +6
    I can’t speak and write, I want to shoot but I have no right ...........
  24. Tanysh
    Tanysh 24 October 2013 13: 45
    +6
    There is no honor, freedom has been drunk, but instead of conscience ... has grown. No matter how blasphemed the Soviet Union, we all knew the price of victory!
    Rulers need Ivana, not remembering kinship.
    If the people think, then it will not be possible to control them.
    Under the tsar, they were successfully divided into aristocracy, and now history is repeating itself, but already in the form of farce
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 24 October 2013 14: 58
      +4
      Quote: Tanysh
      Rulers need Ivana, not remembering kinship


      Ivana-kinship-not remembering grew up in the USSR.
      Actually shouting about them as a phenomenon began in the early 80s (in my opinion people like Rasputin, Aitmatov).
      Now - the children of Ivanov-kinship-not remembering.
      Why expect more?
      But they themselves are indignant, when were they at the cemetery - how many graves were ownerless?
      Relatives scored (either died or left) - NOBODY cares for them.
      No one is surprised that after a few years the owner’s grave is given to the new owners.
      And as always, the attitude towards the dust was more respectful than the documents.
      So what about the personal archive to be indignant if the graves are abandoned ...
    2. Stas57
      Stas57 24 October 2013 15: 33
      -1
      There is no honor, freedom has been drunk, but instead of conscience ... has grown. No matter how blasphemed the Soviet Union, we all knew the price of victory!

      oh oh oh
      you are probably young and don’t remember the mass of publications on this subject in Ogonyok, Literaturka, Komsomolka, etc. somewhere in the context of 70- beginning of 80
      Yes, and the movie said, remember the episode with the dog on the grave in "In love on my own ,,"
  25. GAAAAK
    GAAAAK 24 October 2013 14: 10
    +4
    This is not only their fault, it is the fault of their parents, grandparents who did not instill in them the basic feelings of humanity ....
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 24 October 2013 14: 59
      +1
      Quote: GAAAAK
      This is not only their fault, it is the fault of their parents, grandparents who did not instill in them the basic feelings of humanity


      This is mainly not fault - but the result of education received from parents, grandmothers, deeds ...
      Human behavior, moral principles are laid ONLY by the family.
  26. Makarov
    Makarov 24 October 2013 14: 29
    +7
    we are degrading little by little ... you give the USSR! ...
  27. rugor
    rugor 24 October 2013 14: 36
    +3
    What kind of society - such and such orders. Yes, it hurts to read, but this is our reality.
  28. Analyst
    Analyst 24 October 2013 14: 42
    +2
    Someone zaminusat this article! I wonder, maybe this heir?
  29. woland05
    woland05 24 October 2013 15: 06
    +4
    Geeks, what can I say ...
  30. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 24 October 2013 15: 09
    +3
    I suspect that the heir's orders have already been sold. Such an "iconostasis" with documents and belonging to such a person will pull a couple of tens of thousands of dollars at an auction.
  31. tennis
    tennis 24 October 2013 15: 29
    +1
    Quote: cdrt
    This is mainly not fault - but the result of education received from parents, grandmothers, deeds ...
    Human behavior, moral principles are laid ONLY by the family.


    If. Zomboyaschik, American cinema and Western noodles at all levels, including the Internet - that’s who is the authority for them now.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 24 October 2013 17: 50
      0
      Quote: tennis
      Zomboyaschik, American cinema and Western noodles at all levels, including the Internet


      This does not particularly work with proper upbringing in the family in childhood.
      To honor the memory of grandfathers (to look after the graves of their ancestors, to hand over the personal archive of the heroic great-grandfather to an archive or a museum) - well, it does not depend on American cinema, or on the Internet, or on watching TV ...
      Either parents raised in their childhood as an example, or not.
  32. polly
    polly 24 October 2013 15: 35
    +5
    I always keep the old photos with the captured members of my family sacred, and I wouldn’t give anything even to the museum for any money, just to make the child’s finger touch his great-grandfather on the photo and understand why he was standing here with a rifle and what the order on the chest, for which they gave it, and what is good and what is bad, the child in the family understood, because what they say at home in children's heads is better postponed. So that my descendants would not include citizens of the world and rainbow tolerance!
    And these "clean" relatives are just as sorry as any poor.
  33. major071
    major071 24 October 2013 15: 55
    +8
    Say to such a geek: What are you doing? This is our memory, the memory of our fathers and grandfathers who fought for the country in which you live. And he will look at you incomprehensibly and send you three funny letters, or maybe knock on your turnips. Like you don't tell me how to live. The people are degenerating. Sometimes you want, especially in cases when it really is "not enough" for them, to take them with your muzzle in the village of mo. Live like a pig and eat it.
  34. rpek32
    rpek32 24 October 2013 16: 19
    +2
    Here is the call from the consumer.
  35. sssrsssr
    sssrsssr 24 October 2013 16: 41
    +2
    For many heirs, only the living space of their ancestors is of value ...
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 24 October 2013 17: 52
      +1
      Quote: sssrsssr
      For many heirs, only the living space of their ancestors is of value ...


      They were brought up by such parents. With them (well, that is, us already) and demand
  36. Hellriker
    Hellriker 24 October 2013 16: 46
    +1
    Degeneration is in full swing. All this is very sad. (
    1. Cyril7377
      Cyril7377 24 October 2013 17: 53
      +4
      I agree, it is in full swing, I looked into my son's textbook on the History of Russia, about the war 4-5 pages, passed the USE on the Internet about the war 2 questions, one of which was the conference in Tehran. After such "education" it is difficult to expect from young people respect for our truly bright past.
  37. kafa
    kafa 24 October 2013 16: 50
    +2
    Quote: rpek32
    Here is the call from the consumer.

    no longer a bell - for the action ......... ashamed These consider themselves Russian am
  38. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 24 October 2013 17: 56
    +1
    Let officials from the Ministry of Education and Science be ashamed of such education of the younger generation. Although ... they more worship the history of Russia from Soros and bucks.
  39. Eric
    Eric 24 October 2013 18: 36
    +2
    Quote: Algor73
    And why be surprised, because we all see for ourselves ...

    We do everything ourselves ...
  40. mole
    mole 24 October 2013 18: 55
    +2
    Quote: Eric
    Quote: Algor73
    And why be surprised, because we all see for ourselves ...

    We do everything ourselves ...

    We live one day ... Ivanes who don’t remember kinship!
    Unfortunately, you can not only read, but also see the plan of A. Dulles in reality (US SNB Directive 20/1 of August 18, 1948)
    1. starhina01
      starhina01 24 October 2013 23: 44
      0
      you will not wait from me soldier I still keep a family album for more than half of the photo I don’t know the clues I will leave it to my grandchildren let it go heads break nothing to break up hi
  41. Pancreas
    Pancreas 24 October 2013 19: 04
    +3
    On October 23, the heirs of the Hero of the Soviet Union Ivan Berezutsky threw books into a landfill in one of the yards of the city of Zhukovsky near Moscow.



    BUT after all, these are the heirs (!) Threw out their heritage. How did they bring them up? Who raised them? I am ashamed.
  42. Arkan
    Arkan 24 October 2013 20: 30
    +2
    There is nothing surprising. They didn’t need the books, other people's thoughts of the heirs are not interested.
  43. studentmati
    studentmati 24 October 2013 20: 42
    +2
    From the memoirs of V.A. Zakharov, who worked at the EMZ from 1968 to 1997:
    “One of the employees of the cosmonaut training center AS for a long time was engaged in biomedical research and decided to defend his candidate's thesis in his declining years, but was fired. After his dismissal, AS wrote a book, but did not manage to publish it, he died. thinking for a long time, threw everything out of the apartment "
    The question is, what is the morality of a fable? Bulgakov was right: "the housing problem spoiled the Muscovites"
  44. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 24 October 2013 23: 30
    0
    Do not console yourself with hope for the current and future generation of Russians or Ukrainians. Everything is very bad here, the main desire is to cut money, but I can not blame them for this.
  45. starhina01
    starhina01 24 October 2013 23: 37
    +1
    I'm sorry, maybe I got a crazy idea hi can the state for the archive buy inexpensive award documents, etc. for its history in the future there are perspectives in evidence of facts and an example for the next generation to whom itp. hi
    1. Lesnik
      Lesnik 25 October 2013 00: 12
      0
      The state has archives since 1905, so what?
      1. vty971
        vty971 25 October 2013 08: 16
        0
        Quote: starhina01
        I'm sorry, maybe I got a crazy idea hi can the state for the archive buy inexpensive award documents, etc. for its history in the future there are perspectives in evidence of facts and an example for the next generation to whom itp. hi

        This is a good idea, in the attics and in the chests there are a lot of rarities if you didn’t have to rewrite the story after that
  46. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 25 October 2013 00: 09
    0
    The decomposition of morality is evident. I can understand somewhere that relations in the family can develop in any way, but after all, according to the merits of Ivan Berezutsky to the FATHERLAND, for his descendants, he is a man - LEGENDS, who rightfully need to be proud of, and carefully preserve the heritage that they inherited from him. In order for his grandchildren and great-grandchildren to know through generations what their grandfather was - HERO !, what he did for the country in life.
  47. CAMS
    CAMS 25 October 2013 00: 54
    +1
    I have a younger brother (12 years difference) now says that if I hadn’t told him about the Great Patriotic War, about Stalingrad (especially interested), he would not have looked smart among his friends, do you see your own opinion
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 25 October 2013 02: 01
      0
      in 1912, the medal was knocked out in honor of the glorious event of Borodino, but u, no one spoke about the true history of that great battle, because real heroes left us. And this is a good example of the existence of mankind. Yes, cruelly, BUT what words to explain to my 2-year-old daughter, the meaning and essence of the battle of Prokhorovka, besides, by that time one third (this is me so that all the rivers flow, and so .. a pencil and paper to help you) in this first class will be in shawls) So, to open your eyes and get rid of this post-imperial rhetoric is super-business! But our leading elite does not allow us to get involved in the global economy from the mainstream. projects under the control of dollar banking systems, vista inu, our generation lives in the age of information technology ----- PR controls the world, and the price of a barrel of oil))) BUT, this is a trifle, for some reason the decline in demand for oil resources is observed all over the world, Iran is getting rid of the burden of sanctions, and wakes up, how much will the barrel be? How are we tied to the price of energy? How many demographers will count in 20 years from the income of a people called Russian? But is it true how many Russians will be bigger than now? Sochi will become a triumph of the city-forming people. This is a bitter irony, of course, but not so much arg cops deny my conjectures and estimations? The main thing, of course n and p k and d k, and therefore as wondering what, except our government riot troops gathered to keep us and a favorite slozhivsya under the circumstances and sequences.
  48. vty971
    vty971 25 October 2013 07: 12
    +1
    My daughter is 8 years old, so she knows when the Second World War began and when it ended and that her great-grandfather fought with us in the Second World War. You need to spend more time with children, answer their questions, and when watching military films explain where cruelty is, where patriotism is.
    And the 2000 generation needs to be brought up the old fashioned way and not toss them at computer screens.
  49. someone
    someone 25 October 2013 08: 15
    -2
    I don’t understand why it’s all fucked up here! People can neither sleep nor spirit, without malicious intent, went through old things, and it did not occur to them that these are so valuable for history. Maybe they have a small child, or even more than one, and a free space in the apartment is vital. So they threw it out without a second thought in their opinion "unnecessary trash".
    And you are like old grandmas, they washed all the bones for their eyes. And the enemies of the people recorded. Without knowing the situation as a whole, judge people by the title of the article.
    If nothing more intelligent than
    Geeks, what can I say ...
    it’s impossible to say, it’s better not to print anything at all.

    IMHO.
    1. I am
      I am 25 October 2013 10: 10
      0
      Consumer Forever Society !!! Do you want to lead ????? Better not to buy extra things than to throw out HERITAGE !!!! (not an inheritance !!!!!). And those who threw it away - well, you can’t help them anymore, the job is done.
      1. someone
        someone 25 October 2013 10: 59
        0
        As I understand it, you live in some other society. ))))))))
        And you probably live not in an apartment, but in the open air, on the lawn, and you don’t need things. Right Eve, not otherwise. The main thing is that Adam fed. ))))))))

        Apparently this will not help you all. And it’s not even that I’m justifying someone (I basically have no one to justify here), but that you condemn people with foam at the mouth who do not know about all the filth that you poured on them. Maybe they would find something to answer all of you.
        And just like that, nasty things can be done by every consumer society.
  50. deman73
    deman73 25 October 2013 08: 42
    +1
    one word - stupid people who do not honor their history and do not keep the memory of their ancestors that intellectual insignificance, some grandmothers