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Dmitry Rogozin: Russia is testing a hypersonic weapon

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At a meeting with students in Irkutsk, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said: "I can say that the tests are in progress, they are completely closed both with the Americans and with us." At the same time, he stressed that in this area Russia has no lagging behind the United States.


As previously reported, the main focus in this area is the hypersonic engine used in supersonic aircraft and interplanetary rockets.

To conduct an experiment to be completed in December 2014, a special stand should be built in the Moscow region. It will allow you to explore the controllability of direct-flow engines, as well as fuel consumption and aerodynamics. In addition, scientists will observe the "behavior of the engine in the atmosphere of Mars."

From the federal budget for this project allocated more than 43 million rubles. In general, it is planned to allocate about 210 million rubles annually for testing.

Speaking about the state of the military-industrial complex as a whole, Rogozin noted that Russia still remains the conditional leader in the field of nuclear development, and the most problematic area remains the element base that needs to be restored in the coming years.
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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 24 October 2013 10: 24 New
    +1
    The most important thing is not to let the philosopher-journalist close, otherwise trouble can happen.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 24 October 2013 10: 30 New
      +3
      citation. At the same time, he emphasized that Russia does not lag behind the United States in this area.

      1.I would like to believe

      quote-For an experiment that due to be completed in December 2014, A special stand should be built in the suburbs.

      2. Let's wait and see, then see paragraph 1.
      1. sergey32
        sergey32 24 October 2013 10: 36 New
        +2
        In its place in the 40-e was Beria. Feel the difference.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 24 October 2013 12: 24 New
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        Quote: Apollon
        More than 43 million rubles were allocated from the federal budget for this project.


        Listen to crazy money.

        But for example, the wife of the Deputy Prosecutor General for the Ural Federal District, Yuri Zolotov, sold an apartment in Moscow for 43 million rubles. Maybe there rummaging for hypersound?
    2. Turik
      Turik 24 October 2013 10: 31 New
      +3
      43 million rubles for a hypersonic missile?
      Only one SERIAL prototype of a subsonic rocket costs 1-1,5 million bucks.
      And then the prototypes, research, etc.

      No offense, but this is clearly not enough.
      1. Xroft
        Xroft 24 October 2013 10: 34 New
        +2
        If you really work and not cut the loot as we in the West are very fond of, this money is quite enough.
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 24 October 2013 10: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Turik
        43 million rubles for a hypersonic missile?
        Only one SERIAL prototype of a subsonic rocket costs 1-1,5 million bucks.

        Most likely the conversation was not about a rocket, but about a stand.
        1. Dmitry Zurn
          Dmitry Zurn 24 October 2013 12: 52 New
          +1
          Most likely the conversation was not about the stand, but about celebrations, banquets and salutes, in honor of the decision to build the stand. And then something is not enough.
        2. Deniska
          Deniska 25 October 2013 13: 37 New
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          So I wanted to write that most likely it was allocated to the stand itself and to test the engine already finished on this stand.
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 24 October 2013 10: 45 New
        +2
        not written on the rocket, but on the test! for testing then 43 lyama is normal? smile but seriously, it damn good news, but it is alarming that Rogozin voices it, as he says a lot ...
    3. Joker
      Joker 24 October 2013 22: 04 New
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      For a long time I do not believe this grandmother, he is always in awe of the tongue, he has not kept a single promise.
  2. SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 24 October 2013 10: 28 New
    +2
    I did not quite understand the layout on the one hand hypersonic weapons on the other, the atmosphere of Mars. Getting Star Wars?
    1. Dmitry 2246
      Dmitry 2246 24 October 2013 10: 52 New
      0
      We begin to build the engine - the basis of all programs.
    2. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 24 October 2013 11: 19 New
      +3
      there is no oxygen, which ramjet engine can we talk about? :)
      1. Jin
        Jin 24 October 2013 11: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: Ivan Petrovich
        there is no oxygen, which ramjet engine can we talk about? :)


        More precisely, there is LITTLE oxygen and the composition of the atmosphere is different, more discharged, but also consists of gases ... that's why they try what will come out and how to be.
      2. hrych
        hrych 24 October 2013 11: 52 New
        +3
        There is oxygen, only very little - 0,13%. Hypersonic rockets should fly most of the way at high altitudes, where the atmosphere is also very thin and the amount of oxygen is falling. Theoretically, the engine can work on Mars, but how in reality ...

        something here
        http://vpk.name/news/96187_giperzvukovoi_dvigatel_dlya_marsoletov_ispyitayut_v_p
        odmoskove.html
  3. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 24 October 2013 10: 28 New
    +2
    liberals would still outweigh everyone .... well, or on the count ... whoever you like.
    1. No_more
      No_more 25 October 2013 17: 25 New
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      yeah, from them the rocket engines are being built - everyone knows.
  4. svp67
    svp67 24 October 2013 10: 29 New
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    At the same time, he emphasized that Russia does not lag behind the United States in this area.
    The USA has not yet caught up with the USSR ... Words to God, as well as to our scientists, engineers and workers who worked for defense.
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 24 October 2013 10: 34 New
    -5
    “I can say that the tests are underway, they are completely closed to both the Americans and us. ”. At the same time, he emphasized that Russia does not lag behind the United States in this area.
    Well, what is chatting again! It’s too early to show off ... Such things like silence!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 24 October 2013 10: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Well, what is chatting again! It’s too early to show off ... Such things like silence!

      She will not say anything, they will whine why nothing is being done ...
      Something says, then balabol and all the money has already been cut ... smile
      1. Yves762
        Yves762 24 October 2013 17: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: Russ69
        She will not say anything, they will whine why nothing is being done ...
        Something says, then balabol and all the money has already been cut ...

        Forgive me, colleague, but they do not "master" their money in projects.
        Who else, but personally the toad strangles me to pay taxes koi are sent to develop new "Tsar" -cannons with "Vice-Premier" cores .....


        And another question to Rogozin personally: "Well, where is" Armata "b..t !!! ???"
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 24 October 2013 18: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: Yves762

          And another question to Rogozin personally: "Well, where is" Armata "b..t !!! ???"



          Rogozin: “Armata” will be shown at the Victory Parade in 2015.


          The promising Russian heavy tracked platform Armata will be demonstrated for the first time to the general public at the Victory Parade in 2015, said Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. “We will definitely show it on May 9 to the 70th anniversary of the Victory. We want to show only modern equipment at the parade, ”Rogozin said on the Russia 24 television channel during the Russia Arms Expo-2013 International Exhibition of Arms, Military Equipment and Ammunition in Nizhny Tagil, Interfax reports. It is expected that the platform’s closed display will take place during the Russia Arms Expo-2013 exhibition. According to sources of the newspaper VZGLYAD, the demonstration of “Almaty” to the country's leadership should be held on Thursday, September 26. Earlier on Wednesday, Rogozin said that in the future, the Terminator-2 Tank Support Fighting Vehicle (BMPT) will be created on the Almaty platform. He also noted that the Russian armored vehicles of the future will be produced on the basis of three platforms - both tracked and wheeled; while only its prototypes have been manufactured. “This is all laid down in the state arms program (GPV) until 2020. Three platforms, if we talk about armored vehicles - first of all, “Armata”, which is being prepared by Uralvagonzavod, the platform “Boomerang” (prepared by the “Military Industrial Company”) and “Kurganets” (“Tractor Plants”). These are different cars, on wheels, on tracks. In fact, our competitors do not have this kind of equipment and, apparently, will not, ”Rogozin said. The Unified heavy cipher platform “Armata” (GBTU Index - Object 198) is a promising fourth-generation Russian heavy tracked platform developed by Uralvagonzavod from 2009 - 2010. On the basis of the unified heavy Armata cipher platform, it is planned to create a main tank, an infantry fighting vehicle, a heavy armored personnel carrier, a tank support fighting vehicle, an armored recovery and recovery vehicle, a chassis for self-propelled artillery installations and others.

          http://www.vsesmi.ru/news/7359513/11684096/
          1. alone
            alone 24 October 2013 19: 20 New
            +3
            what But what if they do not have time before 2015? news from shipyards is alarming. the delivery of ships is thrown over for a certain time each time. Armata is certainly not a ship, but all the same.
  6. skif33
    skif33 24 October 2013 10: 37 New
    -2
    Quote: Turik
    This area is the hypersonic engine used in supersonic planes and interplanetary rockets.


    More than 43 million rubles were allocated from the federal budget for this project.

    You can’t develop an engine for a half million bucks for corn.
  7. Asgard
    Asgard 24 October 2013 10: 38 New
    +5
    Hypersonic is not just an engine ...
    These are modern materials of the case, the shell warms up to thousands of degrees ...
    This is a study of the interaction of a medium and a moving rocket. The air environment is also heterogeneous, it is different in humidity and density ...
    Everyone flew on jet liners, saw them shaking sometimes, a hypersonic rocket experiences thousands of times more load .... that is why the rockets fall apart and are not controlled in any way, and the flight / flight time is very short)))
    Hypersound is achievable on new physical principles ...
    BUT RAS is being reformed (destroyed)) and Rogozin’s words hung in the void ....

    I have a feeling that Rogozin was replaced by "another person"
    He used to be adequate, spoke and did the right thing ...
    But in Power "balabol" and Wishkin without taking into account the realities)))
    1. Analyst
      Analyst 24 October 2013 10: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      "balabol"


      I would like to believe the excellent news, but it is too early to speak about "balabolism", we will wait and see.
  8. erased
    erased 24 October 2013 10: 43 New
    +1
    Russian authorities are experiencing the nerves of the Russian people. And what scientists will experience there - go and know. One hope - if someone climbs across the border - they will beat rockets at it, and will not bargain and beg for conditions. But this hope is melting. And seeing how Russians are being killed in Moskvabad and other cities, the thought involuntarily comes that the war is already underway, but so far at the stage of running in the first phase.
    As for Rogozin, the Glock story highlighted the degree of corruption in the War Department even at such an insignificant level.
  9. nik6006
    nik6006 24 October 2013 10: 45 New
    +3
    It's like: "Russia still remains the conditional leader in the field of nuclear development" ????
    What kind of conditional leader?
    Well, why the hell should we: "scientists will observe the" behavior of the engine in the atmosphere of Mars ""? We have here on our planet until the showdown is over, and already on Mars they think.
    No, I am not opposed to transferring all the disassemblies to Mars, let everyone measure their pussy on Mars, and let it be quiet and smooth on Mother Earth. For example, you want to arrange war with the Americans, threw a glove at them in a hat and say so, such as meet on Mars. And the samurai there too. Cool. That's why Mars is the god of war. A sort of space ring to sort things out. And then on Earth, no matter what! That would have healed !!!
    Laughter, laughter, but the question has not been answered, where are our successes in creating hypersonic missiles? We want to know where our grandmothers are going!
  10. andrei332809
    andrei332809 24 October 2013 10: 46 New
    +3
    not only is the man tomorrow a balabol, he also turns out to be a liar.
    call me, I won’t say more request
    1. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 24 October 2013 11: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      I won’t say more

      said A, say B, or give a reference, otherwise you’ll get idle talk hi
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 24 October 2013 12: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
        , and then on your part, idle talk turns out

        I'd rather be seen as a windbag than violate the "unapproachable" image of this ... I don't know how to say. do not demand what is not in the world of the internet. count better than ME piz..bolom. love
  11. saag
    saag 24 October 2013 10: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Asgard
    These are modern materials of the case, the shell warms up to thousands of degrees ...
    This is a study of the interaction of a medium and a moving rocket. The air environment is also heterogeneous, it is different in humidity and density ...

    There is a problem of supersonic combustion
    Quote: Asgard
    . That’s why rockets are falling apart and not being controlled

    And what was falling apart?

    Quote: Asgard
    Hypersound is achievable on new physical principles ...

    Please explain your idea
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 24 October 2013 11: 36 New
      0
      I barely found it, when you quote my comment, press the button answer ...
      the X-51A Waverider cruise missile can be remembered ...
      they tested with us, it flew for a few seconds and into the trash ..

      New physical principles are non-jet engines ... or on the principle of Victor Schauberger ...
      and creating around a rocket or other device, a protective environment or force field ....
      analogue = rocket-torpedo-Flurry ...
      Well, direct-flow engines are air pumping, and this is cavitation (less than in water (but there is)) and pressure drop with increasing speed (at times)))
      there is no solution ... only new physical principles_
      In my opinion, as an engineer)))
  12. Yarik
    Yarik 24 October 2013 10: 49 New
    +4
    As previously reported, the main focus in this area is the hypersonic engine used in supersonic aircraft and interplanetary rockets.


    IN INTERPLANETARY rockets. It is interesting, according to Rogozin, what medium in interplanetary space should "flow" through a ramjet engine. Vacuum?
  13. Migari
    Migari 24 October 2013 11: 10 New
    0
    There is no doubt about our nuclear scientists, but "the most problematic area is the element base, which needs to be restored in the coming years" - there is a snag, a lot of things have been destroyed, plundered and privatized, let's hope for the best.
  14. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 24 October 2013 11: 13 New
    +2
    hypersonic engine used in supersonic planes and interplanetary rockets
    - hmm .. and from childhood I thought that if you put a hypersonic engine on an aircraft, then it will not be supersonic, but hypersonic ... but for interplanetary movement it is suitable from existing ones, only rocket propulsion ..
  15. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 24 October 2013 11: 21 New
    +3
    Chatterbox. What other direct-flow dvigun on Mars? there is no oxygen, what kind of ramjet engine can we talk about? :) so far we can use only rocket engines or solid propellants in such conditions
    1. Spectrum
      Spectrum 24 October 2013 17: 15 New
      0
      while we can use only Russian Railways.
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 24 October 2013 17: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Spectrum
        We can use only Russian Railways.
        Russian Railways? And what, an interesting thought. lol

        By the way, hypersonic weapons are now being tested in Ukraine. It is difficult to classify Yuli’s yelling from places of detention in another way. Losses for the image of power are already enormous, and what else will be in the future ... laughing
    2. Yves762
      Yves762 24 October 2013 17: 22 New
      0
      On Mars there is an atmosphere, no. That is, there is a working fluid for jet dvigla. And you can carry fuel and oxidizer with you. One ... they will need fewer than for a clean rocket ...
  16. shinobi
    shinobi 24 October 2013 11: 45 New
    0
    Rogozin apparently meant a new "explosive ramjet engine", recently there was information in the media about a new promising dvigun. The product is already being talked about in metal and scientists asked for money specifically for a stand for further tests. It was said that if everything is normal, then hypersound will become a habit, and we will start building aerospace planes.
  17. makarov
    makarov 24 October 2013 12: 46 New
    0
    “I can say that the tests are underway, they are completely closed for the Americans and for us ...” Rogozin.

    They have been going on for decades!
    And all the times they just kept repeating "they go, go, go ........."
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 24 October 2013 15: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: makarov
      They have been going on for decades!
      And all the times they just kept repeating "they go, go, go .......

      Do you want everything at once?
      According to the technology of the Middle Ages, a rural hut is being built a year, unless, of course, you want the doors and windows to be warped, and then HYPERSONIC, YET ALSO IN THE AIR.
      By the way, about ten years passed to supersonic
  18. sem.sorok
    sem.sorok 24 October 2013 12: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Turik
    43 million rubles for a hypersonic missile?
    Only one SERIAL prototype of a subsonic rocket costs 1-1,5 million bucks.
    And then the prototypes, research, etc.

    No offense, but this is clearly not enough.


    As if we are reading the whole article and not pulling out phrases out of context:
    In general, about 210 million rubles are planned to be allocated annually for testing.

    And for some reason I am inclined to believe it. And not only that, I think that this amount will increase two times three
  19. asadov
    asadov 24 October 2013 12: 50 New
    0
    You know, we talk a lot about what they do but do little. Until they show the result, these are all virtual and empty successes.
  20. sem.sorok
    sem.sorok 24 October 2013 12: 55 New
    0
    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
    hmm .. and since childhood I thought that if you put a hypersonic engine on an aircraft, then it will not be supersonic, but hypersonic ... but for interplanetary movement it is suitable from existing ones, only rocket propulsion ..


    You don’t believe it - the “Hypersonic engine” scramjet (English Supersonic Combustion RAMJET - scramjet) is a variant of the ramjet engine, which differs from the usual supersonic combustion. At higher speeds, in order to maintain engine efficiency, it is necessary to avoid inhibition of incoming air and to burn fuel in a supersonic air stream.

    A direct-flow interplanetary - well, walking the Bassard engine concept. But I think there is a reservation. Rather, we are talking about engines for flights, for example, in the atmosphere of the same Mars
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 24 October 2013 17: 19 New
      0
      You know, you say excellent things ... only I would understand .. - where does my post ..?
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  22. sem.sorok
    sem.sorok 24 October 2013 12: 59 New
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    Reporters are such reporters.
    http://izvestia.ru/news/556418
    The same news, only in more detail. 43 million allocated only to the stand
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  24. spirit
    spirit 24 October 2013 13: 26 New
    0
    In one program Solovyov Rogozin was asked about what he said about the revival of the BURANA! He realized that Spiz *** l delirium, tactfully got out and explained that it was not specifically BURAN but similar systems! For example hypersonic rockets! BURAN and HYPERSONIC ROCKETS belay !!!!!! almost the same, right? !!! wassat Oh Rogozin! Rogozin! Expert Hu *** in!))))
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 24 October 2013 17: 23 New
      0
      It’s a shame ... Can it be that a person of this rank can’t even get a little insight into the topic ..?
  25. Alexey M
    Alexey M 24 October 2013 14: 35 New
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    In the USSR, there was a topic on the development of aircraft flights in a plasma cloud. There, such as a decrease in resistance and stealth by radar.
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  27. old rocket man
    old rocket man 24 October 2013 15: 48 New
    +1
    Generally speaking, talking about hypersound in space is nonsense, the paradox is that the first cosmic velocity is already hypersound.
    The whole trick is to achieve hypersonic speed (4Max and more) in the air.
  28. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 24 October 2013 15: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: makarov
    They have been going on for decades!
    And all the times they just kept repeating "they go, go, go ........."

    The fact of the matter is that hypersonic flight is, as they say, "not a ram sneezed." It requires the solution of a large complex of problems (theory, materials, etc.), even the transition at a flight speed of 2-3M required a certain amount of stress. In Soviet times, in my opinion, a lot was laid in this direction (if we talk about decades), therefore, even now, apparently, if we are lagging behind, then a little.
  29. ZU-23
    ZU-23 24 October 2013 17: 52 New
    0
    The most chic news, the rest is somehow familiar)))
  30. voliador
    voliador 24 October 2013 18: 25 New
    0
    And somebody will tell you how this is connected - hypersonic weapons and "engine behavior in the atmosphere of Mars"? Did he watch Star Wars at night?
    1. alone
      alone 24 October 2013 19: 23 New
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      no, most likely I played the game "star wars" on my computer
      1. SV
        SV 24 October 2013 23: 01 New
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        can we talk about simulating the conditions of Mars during testing?
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  32. studentmati
    studentmati 24 October 2013 21: 47 New
    +1
    What strikes me is the zeal of the DOR, with which he portrays his awareness of all, absolutely all (often ahead of the very cautious comments of narrow specialists), military-technical issues.

    In general, why does DOR merge "Old"?
  33. rudolff
    rudolff 24 October 2013 22: 02 New
    +3
    Yes, from this "information" analysts from the NSA "sour" brains from overload! Every statement is Fermat's theorem! good
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 24 October 2013 22: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: rudolff
      Yes, from this "information" analysts from the NSA "sour" brains from overload! Every statement is Fermat's theorem! good


      Your truth, Friend! The brain of the "respected" analyst is a perishable product! To be more precise, it was initially unprepared for use.
    2. bask
      bask 24 October 2013 22: 29 New
      +2
      rudolff that is not koment to ten good
      From the monstrosity of this gentleman, not only the NSA analysts will have their brains boiling, but also a supercomb .. they will fly soon. wassat
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 24 October 2013 22: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: bask

        From the verbiage of this gentleman, not only NSA analysts have brains, but also supercomps .. will fly soon.


        The speed of DOR is much higher than the speed of existing systems! This is a "fact" And what are we going to do friends?
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 24 October 2013 22: 41 New
          +1
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            Alex 241 24 October 2013 22: 45 New
            +1
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            1. bask
              bask 24 October 2013 22: 46 New
              +1
              Hi Sash.
              NANO slingshot?
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 24 October 2013 22: 49 New
                +1
                Hi guys, "hypersonic" laughing
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 24 October 2013 22: 59 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Hi guys, "hypersonic" laughing


                  In his crazy glance with a slingshot, DOR resembles Mishan ...
            2. studentmati
              studentmati 24 October 2013 22: 48 New
              +1
              Quote: Alex 241
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              Sanya, hi! Your video, to the point! good drinks Comments are superfluous!
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  34. Platov
    Platov 24 October 2013 22: 14 New
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    Why is everyone obsessed with oxygen, is there really no other oxidizing agent, or maybe the engine works differently, it doesn't need oxygen.
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 24 October 2013 22: 23 New
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      Quote: PLATOV
      are there really no other oxidizing agents, or maybe the engine works differently, it doesn’t need oxygen.


      The whole world is waiting for a breakthrough!
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 24 October 2013 23: 20 New
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      Quote: PLATOV
      Why is everyone obsessed with oxygen, are there really no other oxidizing agents,


      Actually, the meaning of a ram engine is to use one type of fuel and atmospheric oxygen. If you add an oxidizing agent - this is a completely different engine, of which there are a dime a dozen and which are already flying close to hypersound - the same missiles. The only point is the compactness, cheapness and versatility of a ram engine. And the main problem is to achieve normal combustion of the mixture and manage not to melt the body of the device. Both of these tasks are not solved today - there are no materials and technologies. And what Rogozin is talking about, I personally do not know. Most likely, about some kind of demonstrator like Cold.
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