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Russian Air Force received another batch of Su-34 bombers

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The ceremony of handing over to the Air Force of Russia the next batch of Su-34 serial front-line bombers was held today at the Novosibirsk branch of the Sukhoi company - the NAZ them. V.P. Chkalov. The planes took off and went to the place of their deployment.


Russian Air Force received another batch of Su-34 bombers


In May and June of this year, the Su-2013, provided for by the 34 state defense order of the year, was already transferred to the air force. They are in operation in combat units.

Work on the implementation of the 2013 state defense order at the Novosibirsk aircraft plant are in full swing. The company's management notes the high degree of readiness of the aircraft, which is the key to full and timely fulfillment of obligations. Signed with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in 2008 and 2010. State contracts for the supply of Su-34 created the conditions for stable loading of NAZ and related companies for the long term.



These are the largest military supply contracts. aviation equipment provided by the State weapons program for 2011-2020. Their implementation will in the near future to a large extent replace the Su-24 type front-line bombers in service. Issued by NAZ them. Chkalov Su-34 are successfully used in the army and, according to the military, demonstrate high performance.
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  1. Denis
    Denis 24 October 2013 07: 39
    11
    To the Kaliningrad region of them!
    So that the psheks are not particularly leopard-hung, rejoiced
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 07: 43
      13
      Quote: Denis
      To the Kaliningrad region of them!

      Aha, that there would be an enemy nearby and could quickly strike at them.
      1. Denis
        Denis 24 October 2013 08: 21
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Aha, that there would be an enemy nearby and could quickly strike at them
        So do not rest on their laurels, niht beak clap-clap, be on the alert!
        It’s not in Engels to deploy them with strategists
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 08: 39
          +9
          Quote: Denis
          It’s not in Engels to deploy them with strategists

          History should teach people. In June 1941, our aviation was near the borders, and how did it end to remind you?
          1. Edward72
            Edward72 24 October 2013 08: 41
            +1
            And not only aviation
          2. Denis
            Denis 24 October 2013 09: 02
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            to remind you?
            I remember almost 1000 on the first day on earth
            Therefore, not klats-klats, they should not be alone there
            Air defense too do not nap
            1. svp67
              svp67 24 October 2013 09: 48
              +1
              [quote = Denis] I remember almost 1000 on the first day on earth [/ quote]

              [quote] "Opersvodka No. 01 at 12.00:22.6.41 p.m. 124, headquarters of the XNUMXth Air Regiment, Vysoké-Mazowieck"
              “First: The regiment made three sorties of 22.6.41 MiG-48 aircraft on 3 to destroy enemy aircraft.

              The first flight was made on a combat alert at 4.30 as part of the 28 MiG-3. Air battle was not conducted, with the exception of ml. Lieutenant Kokarev, who shot down one Me-110.

              At 5.25, one Yu-88 aircraft flew over the airfield at an altitude of 800 m, after which an attack by two enemy aircraft Me-109 followed, as a result of the ensuing battle between our aircraft and the enemy aircraft, one MiG-3 aircraft was shot down, ml pilot. Lieutenant Zharkov died.

              At 5.35 a group of 18 bombers, accompanied by 7 Me-109 fighters, dropped bombs in the eastern part of the 400 m airfield at the edge of the forest (as in the text). As a result of an enemy air raid, 3 people were killed out of 156 battalions (airfield maintenance battalion. - M.S.), 26 people were injured, of which ml. Lieutenant Artamonov, the rest - the Red Army 156 battalions.

              The second one. At 8.40, two Yu-88 aircraft at an altitude of 5000 m reconnoitered the airfield, made two turns over the airfield, after which one plane flew west and one east.

              At 10.20 at an altitude of 2500 m three groups of bombers appeared - about 30 aircraft of an unidentified type, bombed the V-Mazowieck airfield. Our fighters consisting of 12 MiG-3 aircraft made a take-off, but did not conduct air combat due to the fact that enemy bombers managed to drop bombs on the airfield and leave for their territory. As a result of the bombing raid, the gas depot caught fire, a large number of vehicles were destroyed, and up to 15 MiG-3 aircraft were burned on the ground. Killed 4 pilots, 1 technician and 1 junior specialist, injured 2 pilots and 3 technicians.
            2. svp67
              svp67 24 October 2013 09: 49
              0
              [quote] Third. At 11.15, 6 Me-110 aircraft carried out dive bombardment and assault operations on aircraft located at the airport. Within 20 minutes of the raid, up to 12 MiG-3, 2 I-16, 4 UTI-4 aircraft were destroyed and one I-16 was shot down in the air. In this raid, our fighters, consisting of 3 MiG-3 aircraft, took off and started an air battle. During an air battle, one Me-109 enemy aircraft was shot down (as in the text) by Captain Kruglov.

              Fourth. At 15.30 a group of 18 bombers and 7 Me-110 attack aircraft carried out bombing and assault attacks on aircraft and personnel on the ground. In this raid, the regiment did not produce combat due to the lack of materiel. The remaining materiel in the amount of 6 MiG-3 aircraft was transferred to the Ross airfield.

              At 16.20, 9 Do17 aircraft, accompanied by 7 Me-110 fighters, attacked the airfield, and as a result of the dropped bombs, our aircraft were completely disabled.

              Fifth. As a result of the fighting, on 22.6.41 we shot down two enemy aircraft of the Me-110 type.

              The regiment has aircraft losses: 68 Mig-3, 5 I-16, 7 UTI-4, 9 UT-1, 2 U-2; of these, 3 I-1-6 were destroyed at the Lomza airport, 9 MiG-3 aircraft were left in hangars at the Bialystok airport; 6 MiG-3 aircraft and 2 UTI-4 aircraft were destroyed at the Ross airfield. In an aerial battle one MiG-3 and one I-16 aircraft were shot down. The remaining aircraft were destroyed by the enemy at the airport of V. Mazowieck.

              The personnel killed 9 pilots, 5 technicians, 2 ml. aviation specialist. Injured 6 pilots, 6 technicians, 1 ml. airman.

              The regiment, having suffered heavy losses in materiel, changed its deployment with 45 pilots, 50 technicians, 37 ml. aviation specialists and proceeded to put together a regiment and obtain equipment for further hostilities.

              The beginning Headquarters Major Dryzlov (signature),

              beg. the operations department captain Shagin (signature). "[/ quote]


              [quote] "To the Chief of the Operations Division of the headquarters of 9 SAD. In addition to the Operspatch No. 01, I’m reporting:

              22.6.41/22/10, after a six-time raid by German bombers on the V-Mazowieck airfield and the destruction of aircraft and motor vehicles by me at 22.6 p.m. 9. it was decided, due to the lack of communication with the headquarters of the 19th Road Administration, to withdraw the personnel and part of the necessary documentation of the headquarters in Bialystok for further instructions. The regiment headquarters and part of the flight and technical personnel in the amount of 01.30 people on one auto starter (an aerodrome equipment machine designed to spin the propeller when the fighter engine is started. - MS) arrived in Bialystok at 23.6 XNUMX. Having learned about the departure of the division headquarters from Bialystok, in search of personnel and division headquarters, the regiment headquarters passed the following points: Bialystok, Kvater, Volkovysk, Zelva, Slonim, Baranovichi, Slutsk, Pukhovichi, Bobruisk, Mogilev, Orsha, Smolensk, Roslavl, Seshcha, Beshchrya Eagle.

              On the way to the indicated points, it was collected: 160 people following the marching order and partially on motor vehicles, including 54 flight personnel, 58 technical personnel, 15 staff commanders, ml. aviation specialists 31 people, 2 Red Army men. 40 pax flight crews are on a business trip to Moscow to receive materiel.

              The beginning Headquarters Major Dryzlov (signature). "[/ quote] [/ quote]
            3. svp67
              svp67 24 October 2013 09: 49
              0
              Special message of the 3rd Directorate of Non-Commercial Organizations No. 37928 of July 15, 1941:

              “By an investigation of the reasons for the destruction by fascist aviation of the entire materiel in the 41st and 124th IAPs of the 9th mixed air division, it was established:

              The commander of the 41st air regiment, Major Ershov, was confused at the time of the enemy aircraft raid on the morning of June 22 and could not organize the personnel of the regiment to repulse the enemy. Despite the fact that during the first raid of fascist aircraft at the Seburchin airfield, where the 41st IAP was deployed, the enemy did not disable a single combat aircraft (emphasized by me. - M.S.), since they were all dispersed and disguised, Ershov did not took independent actions to inflict a decisive blow [on] enemy aircraft, awaiting instructions from the command of the 9th HELL.

              Major Ershov, having at his disposal a combat regiment, instead of deciding to operate with formations, sent 1-2 planes to destroy the enemy, which were destroyed by the enemy. Thus, the best pilots of the regiment were killed: Solokha, Aksyonov, Chernyavsky and knocked out - Krutoverets, Korobkov, Kukushkin and Kiselev.

              Ershov, having no need to relocate from the Siburchin airfield, since there was everything for fighting at this airfield, decided to transfer the regiment to the Kuryana airfield, and then relocated to the Quater airfield in the evening of June 22. Subsequently, all the material was destroyed due to the fact that the aircraft at these airfields did not have air to refuel the aircraft (one of the ways to start the engine on the MiG-3 was to use compressed air from an external source. - MS) and cartridges for the BS machine gun, being incapable.

              By the time of the hostilities, the commander of the 124th IAP, Major Polunin, was on vacation and arrived at the regiment only in the afternoon of June 22, when the enemy had already made two raids on the airfield. After the third raid of the enemy’s aircraft, Polunin flew off on a UTI-4 aircraft without giving any instructions.

              The assistant commander of the 124th IAP, Captain Kruglov, remained for the regiment commander during his vacation, on June 22 in the morning, during a raid by fascist aviation, was confused and did not take decisive measures to combat it. All Kruglov’s orders were unorganized. Airplanes were released into the air not by units, but by loners, which did not give the desired effect on repelling enemy aircraft. Most MIG-3 fighters did not fire machine guns, as the crew of plant No. 1 did not manage to adjust them. All this led to the fact that all the planes of the regiment were destroyed. "
            4. svp67
              svp67 24 October 2013 09: 50
              0
              Order to the troops of the Western Front No. 04 of July 8, 1941:

              “On bringing to trial the Military Tribunal.

              As a result of the criminal attitude to his official duties, the complete disregard of the situation, the commander of the 9th Motorized Aviation Command, prohibited the relocation of the material part (emphasized by me. - MS), which contributed to the destruction of the enemy aircraft at the airport. In addition, being sent to the rear to form new units, Major General Chernykh showed cowardice and alarmism there too ... The order to explain to the entire command structure up to and including regiment commanders. ”
            5. Avenger711
              Avenger711 24 October 2013 13: 42
              -1
              Especially those with whom, by the order of the innocently executed Pavlov, weapons were withdrawn, or got into a hangar.
              How aviation should solve its tasks, if it at speeds and ranges of those years is 100 km from the front line, I can not imagine.
          3. svp67
            svp67 24 October 2013 09: 28
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            In June 1941, our aviation was near the borders and how did it end to remind you?

            Do you remember?
          4. Avenger711
            Avenger711 24 October 2013 13: 35
            -1
            Read more Rezunovsky nonsense. The location of aviation 30 kilometers from the front line throughout the war was mandatory.
  2. Edward72
    Edward72 24 October 2013 07: 39
    +2
    At least one good news in the morning.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 07: 44
      +2
      Quote: Edward72
      At least one good news in the morning.

      What salary again did not give?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 24 October 2013 08: 53
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What salary again did not give?

        laughing good
        1. afire
          afire 24 October 2013 09: 19
          +1
          at least one ...
          Yes, a lot of good and different news, broader horizons) life is beautiful!
  3. NC1982
    NC1982 24 October 2013 07: 43
    +8
    Good news, handsome duckbill! Well done in Novosibirsk, they are working hard for the good of the Motherland! hi
  4. tlauicol
    tlauicol 24 October 2013 07: 44
    +6
    Yesterday, it seemed, no one had flown over the city of A-50;
    1. svp67
      svp67 24 October 2013 09: 53
      0
      Quote: Tlauicol
      Yesterday, it seemed, no one had flown over the city of A-50;

      Did he fly away and never come back?
  5. major071
    major071 24 October 2013 07: 52
    +5
    Лаtlauikol
    Yesterday, it seemed, no one had flown over the city of A-50;

    He definitely didn’t fly over ours.
    The news is good, it can not but rejoice. The most important thing is not to stop there.
  6. kenig1
    kenig1 24 October 2013 08: 01
    12
    I work 500 meters from the airport of the plant. Chkalova, yesterday I watched a terrific effect in the literal and figurative sense, BLOOKS beautifully flew away. The car alarm went crazy as soon as the windows in the office did not fly out)))
  7. stalker
    stalker 24 October 2013 08: 10
    +1
    handsome men! good news.
    1. Apollo
      24 October 2013 08: 15
      14
      quote-Su-34 successfully used in the army and, according to the military, demonstrate high performance.

      Russian aviation is one of the best in the world, it is not for nothing that Americans are afraid of it only.

      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 24 October 2013 09: 15
        +5
        Quote: Apollon
        quote-Su-34 successfully used in the army and, according to the military, demonstrate high performance.

        Still used hydraulics to bring to mind ....
        "34" got it from "27". And the weight is more, the aerodynamics are different, a higher working pressure is required. At low temperatures, the oil seals in the cylinder-piston pair "flow".
        Let VAF comment ...
        1. VAF
          VAF 24 October 2013 14: 37
          +4
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          "34" got it from "27". And the weight is more, the aerodynamics are different, a higher working pressure is required. At low temperatures, the oil seals in the cylinder-piston pair "flow".
          Let VAF comment ...


          Write everything correctly, but this is not surprising because the pressure in the HS, in contrast to the 27th (210 kgf / cm2), became 280, and in the pneumatic system, from 150, increased to 210, while all the "mechanisms" practically remained the same.
          "oil seals are flowing" .. this is a disease in any case, "swelling" is and will be, and as soon as you do not "press" .. still wait .. when it "flows"
          But I think that in the end, they will get rid of this sore.

          Although ... on the Tu-22M3 until now, as there was a "problem" it remains - if the Power grid fails. it is necessary to switch to the emergency network, i.e. the common bar is to "cut down" the generators (the SHO is engaged).
          I always told mine ... whatever would happen ... until you start the APU ... don't even think ... I'll find out ... I'll strangle it with my own hands, unless of course it works out, because according to the instructions on the batteries you can "live" about 20 minutes, but in fact 3-5 minutes, while the "spill" "falls" like an avalanche, and with it the chance of salvation, because if it falls below 21 volts, it is no longer possible to "throw out" the crew forcibly, because because the lights will not be reset (the electric drives of the pyro-pushers will not work), you can only manually, but .. there is no SPU and how to give the command to leave, and after 17 volts, the ABSU "goes" crazy (parasitic feedbacks, you know. come to life) and begins to deflect all "steering" surfaces in any direction and at any angles as it wants (going crazy).
          So the plane turns into a .. "mass grave" soldier
          Karpenko in Shaikovka, Tyapkin in Soltsy soldier
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 24 October 2013 18: 46
            +5
            Quote: vaf
            So the plane turns into a .. "mass grave"

            Thank you.
            As always - expert commentary - no add ...
            hi
  8. Xoxoxnumxun
    Xoxoxnumxun 24 October 2013 08: 11
    +1
    The news is certainly nice, but there is no answer to the question of how much? How many planes are in this new batch?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 08: 40
      +3
      Quote: Xoxo4un
      ? How many planes are in this new batch?

      There are three in the photo.
      1. Orik
        Orik 24 October 2013 09: 43
        0
        The photos are also embarrassing, like Shoigu said that they will no longer paint according to Serdyukovsky, but in the photo the old version.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 24 October 2013 09: 52
          0
          Perhaps they finally realized that the "fight against Serdyukovism" can lead to complete idiocy?
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 24 October 2013 09: 56
          0
          Long ago abandoned the idea of ​​a new painting. Although they launched a new research on painting, but the decisions will be in a year and a half. While everyone is painting in the old way.
        3. leon-iv
          leon-iv 24 October 2013 10: 33
          +2
          Do not touch the ducklings in this paint they are awesome. !!!eleven
          1. Orik
            Orik 24 October 2013 10: 52
            -1
            Well this is not a lady’s dress, but a protective (!) Coating and beauty here, like a good person, inside or ... on the suspension. wink
            Thanks to everyone for the clarification on the paint.
          2. VAF
            VAF 24 October 2013 15: 37
            +1
            Quote: leon-iv
            Do not touch the ducklings in this paint they are awesome


            I agree, +! but .. just add .. as long as the factory wink
            And after a well, quite a short period of time ... here is the photo ... I post only one, or else ... the shock will be from .. such a painting wassat
            So it's better to watch .. wink

    2. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 24 October 2013 08: 51
      0
      02, 03, 31 red - only three
  9. vty971
    vty971 24 October 2013 08: 19
    0
    It's nice to hear what has already arrived in the troops, usually only promise.
  10. 1976AG
    1976AG 24 October 2013 08: 22
    +5
    And most importantly, no speculation around this, extra noise. Made a party - sent. Normal working environment. With all the technology so!
  11. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 24 October 2013 08: 34
    +2
    Good! Great news, "ducks" at an excellent pace in wax are, perhaps the only kind that is quietly, calmly made and delivered! without unnecessary PR actions, otherwise they will send 1 tank, and the noise to the whole world! We continue, friends, respect for the workers of the enterprise!
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 24 October 2013 13: 48
      0
      Actually, the Su-34s were the first to enter the troops, back in 2006 there was supposed to be a batch of 6 cars, then the construction was disrupted and the plant went to replace the equipment. The reason, most likely, is that strike aircraft was exhausted during the Chechen wars.

      Su-35s could have been trivial to wait, and he only appeared in 2008.
  12. Soviet_Union
    Soviet_Union 24 October 2013 08: 43
    +2
    Luxury bomb truck. We would have 100 such in the NWO.
  13. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 24 October 2013 08: 53
    +1
    They promised this year 14 pieces, while 6
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 24 October 2013 09: 01
      +6
      Last year, until December of the 2012 of the year, there was 0, and by the 31 of December in the 2012 of the year it became 10 - 100% GOZ NAPO. Therefore, the indicator is good.

      This year, 7 vehicles were transferred (another one separately, at the very beginning of the year).

      By the way, this party is a certain anniversary - now the Air Force has 32 Su-34 in its composition. This year, the GOZ plan of 14 machines, according to a recent visit of the MO to the plant, GOZ is executed at 100% will be by the end of November. Next year the plan is already 16 machines.
  14. leon-iv
    leon-iv 24 October 2013 09: 05
    +1
    They say on the BMPD that they were supposed to get 4 re, but the military did not accept one.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 24 October 2013 09: 14
      +2
      Well, there they’re vanging on the topic that there is no 01 aircraft, but immediately 02 goes. In fact, this can mean a lot, from the fact that 01 was transferred as an 34 board, singly and without a pump, or that 01 and 04, 05 are in the next game for Morozovsk.

      And in general, wang by numbers, a very ungrateful occupation.
  15. pensioner
    pensioner 24 October 2013 09: 17
    +1
    In May and June of this year, the Su-2013, already envisaged by the state defense order of 34, was already transferred to the air forces.

    ?? How many are transferred taking into account the last batch? Something did not understand.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 24 October 2013 09: 22
      +3
      7 pieces this year - plan for 14 machines for 2013 year. The MO commission was at NAPO literally in October and was satisfied, they still reiterated that they would receive 14 machines, and next year they would make 16 machines.

      The total score of Su-34 adopted by the Air Force reached 32 pieces:
      2006 - 2
      2008 - 1
      2009 - 2
      2010 - 4
      2011 - 6
      2012 - 10
      2013 - 7
  16. vlad0
    vlad0 24 October 2013 09: 35
    +6
    Great car. In 92, being cadets in Barnaul, we watched with admiration the first flights of the SU-27IB on TV. From the high stands we were told that in 3-4 years we will fly on them at the combat units. Experts from Novosibirsk talked about the advantages of this aircraft. But ...... Only 20 years later, the car went into parts. And 96 aircraft by 2020 are very few. There are four regiments in total, one per district. SU-24M by that time will be completely crumbled, because by that time it will be "the newest" under 30 years old.
    1. avg
      avg 24 October 2013 10: 22
      +1
      In 92 g, being cadets in Barnaul, they watched with admiration the first flights of the SU-27IB on TV. From the high stands we were told that in 3-4 years we would already fly at them at combat units.

      You know what years these were. We are in 86. in the academy on PASUV "squadrons" were taken into battle, and now they are only returning to them, but they are still returning.
      And on the Su-34, Commander-in-chief like 140 promised.
  17. The Indian Joe
    The Indian Joe 24 October 2013 10: 17
    0
    Great news! And the car is beautiful!
  18. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 24 October 2013 10: 24
    +2
    The news is great. We are waiting for another one. By the end of the week, the 5th board of the T-50 should take off. Look forward to.
    1. VAF
      VAF 24 October 2013 13: 28
      +7
      Quote: VohaAhov
      By the end of the week, the 5th board of the T-50 should take off. Look forward to.


      Already .. don’t wait request ... transfer to the next, recourse since "pinned" LADY wassat today. Naturally, no one "works" on the FOX, everyone .. "drove out" ... the plane was taken from the MIS and rolled over to the parking lot .. for a "show" wassat
      Well, what about ... the main connoisseur of "profit" ..... unexpected ... m..yat such fool
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 24 October 2013 13: 49
        +2
        Quote: vaf
        transfer to the next one, because "pinned" LADY



        Mlyn, he is one of his dirty tricks, even when he is silent. That's the aura of prime minister sad
        1. ivshubarin
          ivshubarin 24 October 2013 15: 31
          0
          Why dirty, before his arrival, the Ministry of Emergencies at least spent a community work day
      2. leon-iv
        leon-iv 24 October 2013 17: 20
        +1
        YY what kind of plane is our iPhone. He hardly distinguishes it from a broiler.
        Although it will make a smart appearance, as if right now it will fly to suppress anti-aircraft defense.
  19. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 24 October 2013 13: 27
    0
    The news is good, but they kept silence about how many cars were transferred! Or again they will deliver one or two cars !?
  20. Bradley
    Bradley 24 October 2013 13: 31
    -7
    Like a lot of pathos on the topic of the Su-34 ... An ordinary fighter-bomber. Only inferior to the F-111.
    1. VAF
      VAF 24 October 2013 13: 40
      +7
      Quote: Bradley
      Like a lot of pathos on the topic of the Su-34.


      There is no pathos, just today it is the ONLY sapmolete that can REALLY apply all the WTO nomenclature available in the arsenal both Day and Night and in any M \ U and at a very decent Range.
      Plus has its own very good BKO complex.

      Quote: Bradley
      Ordinary fighter-bomber.


      Here they froze stupidity request excuse me, but this is what I am telling you as a former IBA soldier
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 25 October 2013 01: 44
        0
        F-111:
        Empty weight: 21394 kg
        Curb weight: 37577 kg
        Maximum takeoff weight: 45359 kg
        at the ground: 1475 km / h
        at altitude: 2655 km / h (Mach 2,5)
        Combat radius: 2140 km
        Ferrying range: 5190 km
        Service ceiling: 17985 m
        Rate of climb: m / s 131,5


        Su-34
        Weight:
        empty: 22500 kg
        normal takeoff: 38240 kg
        maximum take-off: 45000 kg
        Maximum speed:
        at the ground: 1400 km / h
        at high altitude: 1900 km / h (1,8M)
        Range of flight: 4000 km
        Combat radius: 1100 km
        Service ceiling: 17000 m


        Both IB have classes, and one of them comes from the 70s. So what's so stupid? The fact that it is not pleasant that the IS in the early 70s is no worse, but in some places better?
        1. PLO
          PLO 25 October 2013 13: 13
          0
          So what's so stupid?

          stupidity is that you give numbers in which you understand a little.

          all these numbers will make sense when you can tell under what conditions they are achieved, otherwise they mean nothing

          first question: in what configuration (fuel mass, suspension) does the declared combat radius specified by you reach?
    2. old man54
      old man54 24 October 2013 14: 20
      +1
      Quote: Bradley
      Only inferior to the F-111.

      Although I am not an "IBA'shnik" like Sergei, I will also say that you have blundered nonsense here too, I hope that you blurted it out without thinking, that would justify you a little, sorry! hi
  21. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 24 October 2013 17: 10
    +3
    Quote: vaf
    Quote: VohaAhov
    By the end of the week, the 5th board of the T-50 should take off. Look forward to.


    Already .. don’t wait request ... transfer to the next, recourse since "pinned" LADY wassat today. Naturally, no one "works" on the FOX, everyone .. "drove out" ... the plane was taken from the MIS and rolled over to the parking lot .. for a "show" wassat
    Well, what about ... the main connoisseur of "profit" ..... unexpected ... m..yat such fool


    It turns out as in that joke: "Lieutenant Rzhevsky (in our case, LADIES) will come and vulgarize everything ..."
  22. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 24 October 2013 17: 12
    +1
    Quote: kartalovkolya
    The news is good, but they kept silence about how many cars were transferred! Or again they will deliver one or two cars !?

    Why is it not known? It is known. Three cars passed. By the end of the year, the number of transferred vehicles will be brought to 12 units.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 24 October 2013 17: 15
      0
      This year's 14 plan (7 has already been handed over) - 16 plan for the 2014 year.
  23. donavi49
    donavi49 25 October 2013 09: 16
    +1
    By the way, about 4 - it is also transmitted, just did not get on the picture. A SCREAMS THAT !!!

    Total 8 Su-34 transferred this year.
  24. donavi49
    donavi49 25 October 2013 09: 17
    +1
    By the way, yesterday they transmitted 3 Yak-130 - already 15 pieces this year transferred to the Air Force. The general plan of 18.
  25. Bradley
    Bradley 26 October 2013 00: 40
    0
    Quote: olp
    So what's so stupid?

    first question: in what configuration (fuel mass, suspension) does the declared combat radius specified by you reach?

    In normal combat, i.e. - 38240 kg.
    1. PLO
      PLO 26 October 2013 02: 14
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      you probably do not know how to read. it happens.
      the take-off mass of the aircraft roughly consists of 3 terms: the mass of the empty plane, the mass of fuel (in the internal tank and in the tank) and the mass of the payload (bombs, various containers).

      so what does the normal take-off mass of the Su-34 consist of?
      when you know this, you will realize how stupid your statement was.

      Incidentally, a combat radius of 2140 km for the F-111 is indicated for the F-111F with a full internal fuel tank of 19 tons of fuel with 2 PTBs of 1700 liters and a bomb load of only 1800 kg.
      in this configuration, the F-111 reaches its maximum take-off mass