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Alexander Razuvaev: Symbol of Faith

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Alexander Razuvaev: Symbol of FaithIf it were not for the Horde, Batu Khan and the Eurasian idea, then they would be worth inventing. History often rewritten based on current political situation and need. And we are very lucky that now do not need to do this.


At the very beginning of 90, before the tragedy of 04.10.93, the mouthpiece of the anti-liberal patriotic opposition was the legendary Prokhanov's Day, which united everyone who did not agree with the Yeltsin course. They were different, contradictory, but very bright and large-scale people who perceived the collapse of the empire and its consequences to heart.
And which at least deserved respect. In any case, they had every reason to speak on behalf of the disappearing Red Empire and the Russians as one of the main imperial peoples in world history.
However, as you know, history repeats twice. Now self-proclaimed Russian professional patriots, cheap populists who dream of reformatting Great Russians to the level of a small European Slavic nation, have entered the arena.

In this they converge with the liberals. It is impossible, however, not to note that many of the figures of the liberal camp are, after all, professional people or business people. For them, political activity was, above all, the result of personal ambition and ambition.

For most modern professional Russian patriots, politics is a way to make money, simply because they do not know how to make money differently. It would be their personal matter if they did not dare to speak on behalf of all (!) Russians.

Anyone can get acquainted with the works of Eurasians and Lev Gumilev. To enter into a long historical and civilizational dispute with opponents in a short article is hardly worth it. However, I note that for us, the Eurasians, Lev Gumilyov is not a thinker, but a prophet. His books and ideas have long been not only an object of analysis and study, but also a symbol of faith.

Faith, which should help us again to collect and consolidate the imperial Eurasian space. It happened with Stalin and should have with us. This is a goal that justifies any means.

And now about the essence of the question. We have no desire to be civilized by Europeans or Slavs. Just because we do not want to be losers. We are Great Russians, not Slavs, or rather, far from completely Slavs, we are a single fusion of Finns, Slavs and Horde. And I will not lie, I do not like any Finnish melancholy and excessive love of alcohol, nor Slavic softness.

Slavs - like clay, of which, if desired, you can fashion anything. Soft, hospitable, open, sociable people. All these qualities are considered to be positive. However, they do not agree well with the desire to survive and win in global competition.

The Slavs themselves, without the steppe inhabitants, achieved little in history, eventually finding themselves to be German and Turkish slaves. And with high probability they would have remained forever if not for Russia and the USSR.

At the same time, the Horde factor was decisive for the Empire, since way of life, the imperial mentality of Moscow and, accordingly, Russia inherited from the Horde, from Ulus Juchi.

By the time of the arrival of Batu Khan, Kievan Rus had already died, became a field for fights of local princes. And she had to quickly become easy prey for her western neighbors. This is partly what happened, Ukraine and Belarus became the province of the Polish crown, and Ukrainians and Belarusians became the servants of the Polish gentry.
The modern Russia was founded by the grandson of Genghis Khan, the great Khan Batu, who became famous not only for his Western campaign, but also in fact founded our imperial statehood. His contribution to the creation of Eurasian statehood is no less than the contribution of Charlemagne in Western Europe.

The union of Batu Khan and Alexander Nevsky forever determined the historical fate of Russia. Historical civilization choice determines everything, unlike blood and religion. Serbs and Croats are very close, but, to put it mildly, not friends. Orthodox Bulgarians and Romanians, as well as a significant part of the Ukrainians fought against us on the side of Hitler.

You can also recall the recent conflict 2008 of the year with the Orthodox Georgia. The Slavs themselves never considered us their own, and, like the Serbs, remembered us, about friendship and brotherhood, only when it was beneficial for them. For them, we are Muscovites, as well as Tatars, Bashkirs, Buryats and other descendants of the Chingizid Empire, the heirs of a great empire.

Separately, it is worth mentioning the so-called "atrocities", which are traditionally attributed by Europeans, first to Horde, and then to Russian. Of course, in all ages there was an information war, in which the enemy is exposed as a ruthless barbarian. And Western "information about atrocities" should be divided into ten.

However, it must be admitted that the Horde were cruel, and it was precisely this trait of character that the Russians adopted from them later. We Russians are a cruel nation. We not only do not throw ours, but do not take prisoners either. That is why we won in most wars and expanded the territory of our Empire.

By the way, all imperial peoples at all times were cruel - the Romans, Persians, Germans, Anglo-Saxons, etc. Compassionate and snotty peoples have never been competitive in a global world.

However, the main truth is that if it were not for the Horde, Batu Khan and the Eurasian idea, they would have been worthwhile to invent. History is often rewritten based on the current political situation and necessity. And we are very lucky that now do not need to do this.
If we do not create an independent center of power, we will become the periphery or be absorbed by more powerful neighboring civilizations. Being the younger brother of the United States, Western Europe, China or the nascent global Islamic project is hardly a worthy role for the Great Russians, who thirty years ago controlled half the world.

The red idea of ​​the USSR has long been dead. And besides Eurasianism, I see no other idea that can unite the main nations of the former Soviet space. The nations to the south of Kazakhstan, of course, do not count, they are not related to the Horde Russian Eurasian project.

The twenty-first century in terms of money - the age of Asia. Our task is to close exports to China and other countries of the Asian region, to Asian demand. Europe is no longer a partner, its economic, civilizational and demographic crisis is very serious.

Same-sex marriage is only the most obvious thing. It is possible that in the twenty-first century, Europe will once again become the periphery of civilization, as it was during the time of Genghis Khan. Positioning yourself in Asia by Slavs and Europeans is not the best way. And to be the heirs of Batu Khan is very worthy and, most importantly, financially beneficial.

Genghis Khan is directly related to Russia. If only because he became the founder of the Eurasian power, having passed the thorny path from the disgraced prince and leader of the outcast people of long will to the terrible ruler of Asia.

The Empire founded by him was the first successful experience of economic, trade and financial globalization in human history. Even Wall Street investment analysts recognize this. The Yasy law had a serious influence on the formation of the national character of many Eurasian peoples, including the Great Russians. You can not deceive trusting, but, as you know, Judas betrayed Christ.

The tragic events of the tumultuous youth of the red Temudzhin and his relationship with Borte can be considered a model of behavior for any man who wants to live a life for which will not be ashamed.

The future founder of the empire himself said that the relationship between a boy and a girl is similar to that between a hand and an eye.

When the arm hurts, the eye cries ... And when the eye cries, the hand wipes a tear.
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  1. a52333
    a52333 24 October 2013 07: 36 New
    +3
    By the time Batu Khan arrived, Kievan Rus had already died, became a field for the dismantling of local princes.
    "Strong" statement. The author should look around him. If he sees the overwhelming number of short, tick-footed ones, with a pronounced epicanthus, I will be the first to admit that he is right.
    I see around me fair-haired blue-eyed Europoids, descendants of the northerners. And the influence on the race, its worldview and culture produces an infusion of a sufficient amount of Mongoloid blood. Minus.
    1. Civil
      Civil 24 October 2013 07: 43 New
      +2
      The author taught the materiel neither Russian nor Volga Tatars and Bashkirs, to the descendants of Genghisides, and to contemporaries have nothing to do.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 07: 47 New
      -1
      We are Great Russians, not Slavs, or more correctly, far from completely Slavs, we are a single alloy of Finns, Slavs and Horde
      I will not read further.
      1. a52333
        a52333 24 October 2013 07: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Author teach materiel

        RZHUNIMAGU, writes that we are descendants of the Mongoloids. Before writing, look at yourself in the mirror: the chepep has pronounced signs of a dolichokephalic type with a high straight forehead. In the photo is a reference northerner. Who saw the Mongoloid?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 08: 42 New
          0
          Quote: a52333
          . Who saw the Mongoloid?

          Well, if you drink well, then he will become a black man.
    3. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 24 October 2013 16: 07 New
      +2
      The author. I declare as a person with a historical education, albeit a pedagogical one. It would be better if he did not write anything. Not a shame.
  2. AnpeL
    AnpeL 24 October 2013 07: 43 New
    +2
    The Slavs themselves, without the steppe inhabitants, achieved little in history, eventually finding themselves to be German and Turkish slaves. And with high probability they would have remained forever if not for Russia and the USSR.

    Something quite gloomy. The author must have already fallen in spite - that’s betrayed emotions with text
  3. Revolver
    Revolver 24 October 2013 07: 47 New
    +3
    If it were not for the Horde, Batu Khan and the Eurasian idea, then they would be worth inventing.

    And Alexei Konstantinovich Tolstoy, who, unlike Razuvaev was a Russian nobleman, moreover, had the title of count, strongly disagrees. And it seems to me personally that Count Tolstoy is right.

    Alexei Konstantinovich Tolstoy
    Serpent Tugarin (1867)

    1
    Over the bright Dnieper, among the mighty boyars,
    Near the capital city of Kiev,
    Vladimir feasts, is young and old with him,
    And far ringing of forged charms is heard -
    Oh, ok, oh, okay ladushki, okay!

    2
    And Vladimir says: “Well, there are no singers?
    Without them, a feast is not a joy to me! ”
    And here is a stranger from the far ranks
    The singer speaks to the princely call -
    Oh, ok, oh, okay ladushki, okay!

    3
    Eyes like slits, a long mouth
    Face to face is not like
    And cheekbones stood out angles forward,
    And the Russian gasped in terror, the people:
    "Oh mug, oh terrible mug!"

    4
    And he began to sing in an unknown manner:
    "Dominion is a bold reward!
    You prince are powerful and treasury rich
    And remember your rooks distant Constantinople -
    Oh, ok, oh, okay ladushki, okay!

    5
    But your kind do not forever keep fate,
    A tough time will come
    Hug your Kiev and flame and smoke
    And your grandchildren will be my grandchildren
    Keep the gilt stirrup! ”

    6
    And Vladimir broke out at a word like this,
    Annoyance lit up in my eyes -
    But suddenly he laughed - and laughter around
    In the ranks rolled like thunder across the sky -
    Oh, ok, oh, okay ladushki, okay!

    7
    Vladimir laughs, and with him sons,
    The princess laughs, looking down,
    The boyars are laughing, the princes are laughing,
    The daring Popovich, and the old Ilya,
    And the brave Nikitich Dobrynya.

    8
    The singer continues: “My message is ridiculous.
    And hurt your ear?
    Who could take an insult from you?
    A priceless Russian treasure of honor,
    Their oath: "Let me be ashamed!"

    9
    At a people's veche their judgment is being held,
    Resentment flushes the field from them -
    But days, hey, others will come
    And honor, sovereigns, will replace your whip,
    And veche - kagan will! ”

    10
    “Wait! - Ilya says, - your voice is at least clear,
    Yes, your song is not useful!
    There was a thief Nightingale, like you, a voice player,
    Yes, I muffled his whistle with five
    The same thing would not happen to you! ”

    11
    The singer continues: “And the time will come,
    Our Khan will cede to the Christians,
    And the Russian people will rise again,
    And the one of you will gather the earth,
    But he himself will become a khan over it!

    12
    And in the tower he will sit his own,
    Like an idol in the middle of a temple
    And he will beat you back with a butt,
    And you bang him and bang his forehead -
    Oh shame, oh shameful shame! ”

    13
    “Wait! - Popovich says, - at least a heft of your height,
    But listen, filthy erysipelas:
    Once a cow went to her father’s graveyard,
    I waved her tail over the roof -
    You wouldn't be the same! ”

    14
    But he continues, having clenched his mouth:
    “You’ll take over our custom,
    In honor of you, you will learn how to lay a lie,
    And now, having choked the Tatars to the heart,
    You will call her Russia!


    15
    And you honestly quarrel
    And the great ancestors on the litter
    Not listening to the voice of my own blood
    You will say: “Let’s get our back to the Vikings,
    Turn your face to the rips!
    »

    1. Revolver
      Revolver 24 October 2013 07: 48 New
      +2

      16
      “Wait! - he says, rising, Dobrynya, - do not dare
      Prophesy such grief to us!
      I recognized you from unsuitable speeches:
      You are the old Tugarin, that wretched serpent,
      Sailing from the Black Sea!

      17
      On paper wings, at night
      You are often around Kiev city
      He flew and hissed, but not the first time you
      I’m on a hot arrow
      “Oh, okay, oh, okay little ladies!”

      18
      And Dobrynya began to pull the bow,
      And so, for the amusement of the people,
      The strings of the heroic who heard the sound,
      Suddenly the singer threw himself into a snake
      And with a spike it rushes into the water.

      19
      “Ugh, reptile! - said Vladimir and nose
      Cramped from an intolerable stench, -
      What did he not carry in a stingy song,
      But, good, he ran away from Dobrynyushka, dog, -
      “Oh, okay, oh, okay little ladies!”

      20
      And the snake, spreading along the Dnieper, floats,
      And chasing the reptile with a laugh,
      The Russian people are hooting at him:
      “Tea, now we won’t sing songs -
      “Oh, okay, oh, okay little ladies!”

      21
      Vladimir laughs: “Look, we thought up
      What a shame he threatens!
      So that we take shame from Tugarin!
      So that we framed the backs of the batogs!
      So that we turn to obdory!

      22
      No kidding! Our Russian Russia lives!
      Tatar Russia we do not need!
      He lied, he lied, he is a migratory goose
      For the honor of our homeland, I’m not afraid -
      Oh, ok, oh, okay ladushki, okay!

      23
      And if trouble had shaken over her,
      Descendants will be trouble!
      It happens, - said the light-sun-prince, -
      Captivity will make you go through the mud -
      Pigs can only swim in it!

      24
      Give me my great spell,
      That enchantment obtained in section
      Looted with the khozar khan in battle, -
      For Russian custom I drink to the bottom
      For the ancient Russian veche!

      25
      For free, for honest Slavic people!
      I drink Novagrad for the bell!
      And even if he falls to dust,
      Let his ringing in the heart of descendants live -
      Oh, ok, oh, okay ladushki, okay!

      26
      I drink for the Vikings, for the dashing grandfathers,
      Who raised the Russian power
      Who is our Kiev famous for, who the Greek has subsided,
      For the blue sea that theirs,
      Noisy, brought from the sunset! "

      27
      And Vladimir drank - and all at once,
      Like the splash of a swan herd
      Like a thunderclap from a cloud in summer
      The people answer: “We drink for the prince!
      Oh, ok, oh, okay ladushki, okay!

      28
      Yes, he rules in Russian, he is the Russian people,
      And we don’t need a khan!
      And if a year of adversity comes,
      We believe that their Russia will triumphantly pass, -
      “Oh, okay, oh, okay little ladies!”

      29
      Feasting Vladimir with a bright face,
      In the chest of heroic joy,
      He believes: we will triumph over grief,
      And it's fun to hear him over the Dnieper:
      “Oh, ok, oh, okay little ladies!”

      30
      Feasting with Vladimir the power of the boyars,
      Feasting the city’s posadniks
      Feasting all of Kiev, and young and old,
      And far ringing of forged charms is heard -
      Oh, ok, oh, okay ladushki, okay!
  4. Zhenya
    Zhenya 24 October 2013 07: 52 New
    +1
    Author chm.o. These are necessary in uranium mines, so as not to trash my ancestors with their filthy utterances and nonsense.
  5. makarov
    makarov 24 October 2013 08: 09 New
    0
    Once a well-known intercity publicist in his critical material on the famous Russian crook called the pseudoscientific research of the latter the word "FUFLO". In my personal correspondence, I had to pull up on the person I respect, explaining along the way what this word actually means.
    I repent publicly. I was wrong. Sometimes (as for example now) it is difficult to choose a more capacious, short and meaningful expression, giving an assessment of certain works.
  6. Robert Jordan
    Robert Jordan 24 October 2013 08: 09 New
    +1
    The historian fulev ...
  7. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 24 October 2013 08: 12 New
    0
    It’s good that mathematics cannot be so freely rewritten as history. And then there would be disputes. Two, two, four or five?
  8. Stranavl
    Stranavl 24 October 2013 08: 32 New
    0
    The author is a false historian.
  9. Lindon
    24 October 2013 08: 32 New
    +4
    At the same time, the Horde factor was decisive for the Empire, since way of life, the imperial mentality of Moscow and, accordingly, Russia inherited from the Horde, from Ulus Juchi.


    So where did the Russian imperial mentality come from? When did the Slavic states suddenly abandon raids on their neighbors, and began to absorb neighboring states turning into an empire? It seems that the unification of the Russian principalities around Moscow ended, but there was no need to capture Kazan with the transition of the Tatars to the service of Ivan the Terrible.
    Many prominent people of the Republic of Ingushetia draw their genealogy from the Tatar princes who served in the Golden Horde.
    There are a lot of borrowings from the Golden Horde and this is not counting the territory, religious tolerance, unlike the crusaders, etc. To deny that the basis of the Republic of Ingushetia was the legacy of the Golden Horde is not entirely reasonable. The existence of the Golden Horde is inconvenient - they want to erase all kinds of it and rewrite it under the existing political agenda - only all books and research on the empire of the Mongols will have to be burned and rewritten.
    1. Orik
      Orik 24 October 2013 10: 40 New
      +2
      The Horde princes and nobles began to transfer to Russian service long before Ivan the Terrible. The most powerful stream was formed when Khan Uzbek, and this is the beginning of the 14th century, Omuslim horde. Nobody is going to "rub" it, we really took a lot from the horde, both good and bad. Most importantly, the horde united Russia into a single state and empire. I involuntarily think, what kind of Mongols do we expect today to unite us now ?!
      The author writes a lot, interprets controversially, but there are many worthy of attention, for this and put courage plus.
  10. an-servas2013
    an-servas2013 24 October 2013 09: 20 New
    +4
    Quote: Civil
    The author taught the materiel neither Russian nor Volga Tatars and Bashkirs, to the descendants of Genghisides, and to contemporaries have nothing to do.


    Quote: Marrying
    Author chm.o. These are necessary in uranium mines, so as not to trash my ancestors with their filthy utterances and nonsense.


    I read your comments and decided to write everything, although I know you won’t understand. In vain, explode and scold the author, apparently the article has not yet matured. Why?
    Firstly, our whole history is directed towards the West, our thinking no matter what nationality
    directed west. The external beauty of man is connected with the beauty of the European. And comparing the thinking of an Eastern person and a European, it is heaven and earth. An example of who is an Asian idol of pop, film, etc.
    How many directors, actors, singers of Asia do you know? And why, yes, they just don’t exist, in your opinion there are few known - Kurasawa, Honda-footballer, Psi-singer, maybe some presidents and that’s all. In Japan, they live by the principle of a nail-popped-out hat on a hat and in place. Be the richest person, lead a modest lifestyle. That’s why they don’t have stars, good or bad, everyone decides for himself. We do not want to be Asian, despite their ancient culture and the fact that Russia
    more than 300 years was under the Tatar-Mongol yoke. We do not even want to hear about asemilation, what nonsense.
    And what does our Tatars, Bashkirs, Kalmyks have to do with the Mongol-Tatar invasion.
    Anyway, did Genghis Khan come to Hungary? Apparently, historians have mixed up something. The Russian nation is the nation itself and there is no need to trash it. True, there was such a journal. Science and Life, and so again, based on numerous portraits of Russians, they made a generalized portrait of a Russian man and what turns out to be dark-skinned, brown-eyed, and we want the blue-eyed, fair-haired, well, fair-haired beast according to Hitler. Alas. Yes, and 300 years have not passed without consequences for the Russian people.
    And it was right under the Union — we are all a friendly Soviet family, and I'm a Soviet person by nationality. In our hearts we are all Russian, no matter what my appearance would be.
    Sorry if something is wrong.

    With deep respect for the Russian people and the Russian language.
    Sergey An
    1. avt
      avt 24 October 2013 11: 02 New
      0
      Quote: an-servas2013
      I read your comments and decided to write everything, although I know you won’t understand. In vain, explode and scold the author, apparently the article has not yet matured. Why?

      The author is scolded because they intuitively understand his development of the order for the creation of a historical base under the concept of "Russian" and the eradication of the concept of "Russian", as well as the dibilization of the Slavs in general, quite a little article in continuation of Lenin's work "On the pride of the Great Russians." passages about the "steppe civilization". He is the same "historian" as Sashka Dugin, "philosopher-Eurasianist"
      Quote: an-servas2013
      And it was right under the Union — we are all a friendly Soviet family, and I'm a Soviet person by nationality.
      In fact, even the Soviet ideologists of courage did not come to claim that they had created such a nation, they dwelled on the term community - the Soviet people. Well, try to preach it all, well, let's say Armenians and Azerbaijanis at the same time, it would be nice to go to Kyrgyzstan with Kazakhstan, well, there the Kazakhs correct the constitution with the author in part of the state-forming nation. Weakly, here in Russia, under Article 282 of the Criminal Code it’s quite comfortable to launch such opuses. Such good things like dummies like this article do not bring anything good. That’s exactly who will applaud for this - Bandera, an article for them balm for the soul.
    2. a52333
      a52333 25 October 2013 00: 17 New
      +1
      The Russian nation is the nation itself and there is no need to trash it. True, there was such a journal. Science and Life, and so again, based on numerous portraits of Russians, they made a generalized portrait of a Russian man and what turns out to be dark-skinned, brown-eyed, and we want the blue-eyed, fair-haired, well, straight blond beast according to Hitler.
      History is still a station girl.
      Whoever "had" it. Russian- RUSSthe only nationality in whose name the anthropogenic sign is "RUSY" Speaking of the pride of the Mongoloids:
      Turks think differently -
      If you find Mongoloid traits IN THE BUST OF Khan Batu click, chat.
      Afras in the USA at the moment count (and try to prove as they are scarce). that Hannibal was black. WELCOME. Look at the bust. Draw conclusions hi
  11. Anubis Gorynych
    Anubis Gorynych 24 October 2013 11: 21 New
    +3
    I believe that the reader is embarrassed by the dilemma: it seems that we are ready to work and fight for a united people (as in the good old days) and a strong large state, it’s another matter how they will give us an idea, otherwise any business, even the most righteous one can be ruined that everyone will start spitting, because they will also believe that this is originally disgusting! "Eurasians" pursue someone else’s goals, sometimes working for them somehow clumsily. This is not an “article has not matured”, this idea of ​​Eurasianism is based on damp material. And they don’t offer new material to suit everyone. In particular, Gumilyov wrote plausibly, but not scientifically. I have friends and even brother-in-law - Tatars, they themselves say (like Kazakhs and Armenians): “The real Tatar is a white-skinned with blue eyes and a red beard!” In the end, Russian is not a nationality, but a civilization! And about Genghis Khan ... Is he really a Mongoloid himself? Look at these photographs - monuments to the descendants of Genghis in Turkey. More of our Cossacks resemble!
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  13. Anubis Gorynych
    Anubis Gorynych 24 October 2013 11: 24 New
    0
    I think that the readers are embarrassed by the dilemma: it seems that we are ready to work and fight for a united people (as in the good old days) and a strong large state, it’s another matter how they will give us an idea, because any business, even the most righteous one can be ruined that everyone will start spitting, because they will also believe that this is originally disgusting! "Eurasians" pursue someone else’s goals, sometimes working for them somehow clumsily. This is not an “article has not matured”, this idea of ​​Eurasianism is based on damp material. But they don’t offer new material to suit everyone. In particular, Gumilyov wrote plausibly, but not scientifically. I have friends and even brother-in-law - Tatars, they say themselves (like Kazakhs and Armenians): “A real Tatar is a white-skinned with blue eyes and a red beard!” In the end, Russian is not a nationality, but civilization! And about Genghis Khan ... Is he really a Mongoloid himself? Look at this photo - a monument to a descendant of Genghis in Turkey.
  14. Bigriver
    Bigriver 24 October 2013 11: 28 New
    +1
    ... we are one alloy FinnsSlavs and Horde.

    How interesting far-fetched smile Not the Turks, namely the Horde. Not Finno-Finns, but Finns only. And where does it come from?
    What does the author rely on in affirming the main role of the Horde in the formation of the Russian state?
    Yes, nothing. Creatiff.
    Europe is no longer a partnerIts economic, civilizational and demographic crisis is very serious.

    Everywhere there is a cycle: becoming-development-recession-crisis ... Formation.
    Europe will not go under water. Europeans will disappear and die, Muslims and Arabs will come.
    The prospect of Russia is the prospect of a hub between different markets.
    Minus for littering the information space.
  15. Neighbor
    Neighbor 24 October 2013 14: 28 New
    +3
    That's just why the Mongols themselves do not have any legends, at least, no other evidence of their "great" past. It seems to me that after passing so many cult peoples, the path to Russia is not a short one, they could know their own history.
  16. v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 25 October 2013 12: 26 New
    -1
    These verbal excrement is even reluctant to comment.