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Sokolov Dmitry Sergeevich. Year of birth 1992. Born in Krasnoyarsk. He lived in the city of Dolgoprudny, Moscow Region. Missing 2 July 2012, in the city of Moscow. Dmitry did not return home from Arabic courses that he attended in the Moscow area Chertanovo (according to other sources - in Otradnoe). He was wearing a dark T-shirt, worn jeans, blue sneakers, he had a black backpack behind Dmitry’s back and had a passport with him.


The announcement of this type was distributed by Dmitry Sokolov's relatives through the TV show “Wait for me”. The information was transferred to law enforcement agencies and representatives of the FSB of Russia. According to the grandfather of the young man, after seven months from the Federal Security Service, an answer came that the search for Dmitry was stopped, quote: "due to the absence of a corpse."

A year and three months later, an explosion took place in Volgograd in the bus number XXUMX. According to investigators, the 29-year-old native of the republic of Dagestan, Naida Asiyalova, who at that time was the so-called civil wife of 30-year-old Dmitry Sokolov, who could become one of the accomplices of the bloody terrorist act in the hero city, committed a self-detonation.

The aforementioned grandfather of Dmitry Sokolov, who was interviewed by journalists from Komsomolskaya Pravda, said that his grandson and Asiyalov had met through the Internet, and rather quickly after the “electronic” meeting, Naida Asiyalova was in Moscow. By the way, it was not the first time in the capital. Here, according to LifeNews, she married Turkish citizen Murad Celik in the middle of 2000, who worked for a Moscow-based commercial company, but after the crisis 2008 decided to return home, but didn’t invite her husband to that serves for divorce. It was after this that Asiyalova decided to wear a hijab, which, by the way, her relatives did not approve (at least, they say so today). The foster mother, Ravzat Asiyalova, claims that she tried to dissuade Naidu from wearing the hijab, but that from such conversations only went deeper into herself. According to the adoptive mother, Ravzat and Naida Asiyalov did not communicate with each other since 2009.

It is noteworthy that Asiyalova's relatives declare that their daughter, as they say, plunged into Wahhabism after they began contacts with 18-year-old Dmitry Sokolov. The relatives of Dmitry Sokolov are sure that it was Asiyalova who influenced the young man.

Anyway, during the Internet contacts of young people with 10-year differences in age and from completely different social and ethnic groups, they found common topics for conversation. And, apparently, the themes were directly related to the activities of radical pseudo-Muslim organizations in Russia. Sokolov’s visit to “Arabic language courses” fits into these “common interests”.

In the 2010 year, 18-year-old Dmitry entered into marriage (no official marriage registration data were found) with 28-year-old Naida. It is noteworthy that the aforementioned Ravzat Asiyalova (Naida Asiyalova’s adoptive mother, who blew herself up in the Volgograd bus), states that she learned about her new son-in-law not from her daughter, but from the FSB officers. Special services came to her to find out if she had time to see her new relative. Ravzat Asiyalova and Dmitry Sokolov, according to the first, did not have time to see ...

It would seem to be ordinary information, but upon closer examination of the ordinary it does not seem at all. After all, if you believe the words of the terrorist’s mother, then it turns out that several years before the Volgograd terrorist attack, the FSB officers managed to take Dmitry Sokolov into the development, and, accordingly, his “young wife”. And if so, then, it turns out that Sokolov had to attend "Arabic language courses" and conduct his contacts with Asiyalova and other "comrades" under the hood of the special services. If so, how can one explain the information that soon Sokolov together with Asiyalova went to Dagestan, where he also managed to undergo training in a subversive case in the militant camp. As they say, special services, hello ...



Now the official representatives of the special services and other law enforcement agencies are given the information that they, quotation: “managed to identify the accomplices of a suicide bomber”. Surely ... In the accomplices, of course, Dmitry Sokolov is listed. Another two are Ruslan Kazanbiev (1988 of birth) and Kurbat Omarov (also 1988 of birth). These young people are accused of not only organizing the Volgograd terrorist act, but also other criminal acts: double murder at the gas station of Makhachkala, murder of an employee of the Center for Combating Extremism Kurban Akhmetov and undermining the Alaska-30 post in the capital of Dagestan. The murder of a law enforcement officer and the undermining of the post using suicide bombers took place in 2012 year.

Let's return to the interview with grandfather Dmitry Sokolov. The man says that his grandson grew up in a military family, was rather closed for the reason that his parents worked a lot and could not give Dmitry a lot of attention. He did not have time to make school friends, as his father was often transferred from one part to another (from one city to another). At the same time, Dmitri's relatives say that they do not see in a young man who is capable of leading the organization of terrorist acts. The same grandfather notes:

Imagine, in one year a kid who had previously worked as a loader in a store, suddenly became the leader of a gang, an experienced shooter - this is impossible! It needs to learn over the years. He is most likely a minor performer. Maybe he collected the nails there, the explosives, the courier was no more. I think that he was zombied and framed. And he accepted Islam not on his own will. It may turn out to be pure water, maybe it is held somewhere and used. Why, there, stupid, young, no life experience. I am an optimist and I hope that everything will end well. But of course, if at least one article proves to be true that he was in a gang, then, of course, it would not work out just like that ... The term will serve. You must answer for your deeds and actions ...


Whether he became an experienced demolition man or a courier, whether he was framed or he was framed is not so important today. It is important that Dmitry Sokolov is a young man who grew up in an average Russian family, in which there were no problems with food, with shelter, with work, or with financial means for a tolerable life. It is also important that the Russian young man, literally under his nose, not only among his relatives, but also representatives of law enforcement agencies, even a few years before the start of terrorist activity, began visiting questionable centers, which can be called pseudo-Muslim. It is difficult to assume that Dmitry did it against his will. And if on its own, then again, why did its development as a member of terrorist groups actually take place openly? - a clear omission of not only relatives, but also law enforcement officers.

In general, everyone knew everything: both places to visit and “train”, and a circle of Internet contacts (judging by grandfather’s interview), and “who, whom and with whom”, but the militants didn’t prevent such knowledge about them from sending on the light of completely innocent people. What does it mean? This means that there are quite a few such Sokolov-Jabbar and Asiyalovs with photos pasted in the passport around the country. Where is the guarantee that today someone else has not gone to the next "Arabic courses"? In general, someone in the special services should at least reduce the number of stars on their shoulder straps. Once again - at a minimum, but only with this, and still being forced to explain to the relatives of the victims, and what do these law enforcement agencies do at that moment when people, especially those who do not hide their terrorist intentions, move freely around the country with fake passports, tied up with TNT sticks .
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  1. Civil
    Civil 24 October 2013 08: 04 New
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    This is a war that lost Dagestani in Moscow? Where are Sokolov's friends? What are unowned Arabic language courses in Chertanovo?
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 24 October 2013 08: 09 New
      +2
      Another linden tree. Specially dragged into this linden, supposedly not only our southern neighbors are to blame.
      1. Basileus
        Basileus 24 October 2013 08: 19 New
        +8
        Well, yes, it's all linden. Russians never kill anyone, do not rob, do not rape. And 100% of crimes are committed by visitors.
        1. Uhe
          Uhe 24 October 2013 10: 13 New
          0
          Well, Russian will never become a Muslim. These are called - Nerus.

          According to statistics, most of the crimes you have voiced are now perpetrated by migrants. Not 100, of course, but close to that.
          1. OffenroR
            OffenroR 24 October 2013 22: 21 New
            -8
            Not quite on the topic .... related to events in Biryulyovo:
            Source: Day.az:

            Russian Yegor Shcherbakov, who was "killed" in Moscow by Azerbaijani citizen Orkhan Zeynalov, was detained at Vnukovo airport.

            Day.Az reports with reference to Milli.Az that musavat.com disseminated information that the "deceased" Shcherbakov intended to fly to Warsaw. Information about the detention of E. Shcherbakov by customs officers spread all over Moscow at the speed of light, the website writes. It is reported that the girl, who introduced herself as Yegor's lover, left the capital of the Russian Federation on a Moscow-Paris flight two days earlier.

            The reason for the detention of Yegor Shcherbakova at Vnukovo Airport is unknown. There is no official confirmation of this information.

            The resource notes that Azerbaijani citizens living in Russia are dubious about the allegations of the murder of an Azerbaijani citizen, Orkhan Zeynalov, of Russian citizen Yegor Shcherbakov. TV channels and newspapers that prepared detailed reports in connection with the "murder" did not show either Shcherbakov's body or his relatives mourning Yegor's body in the morgue. The audience did not see the funeral ceremony either.

            It is reported that people who want to make a show from the funeral of Yegor Shcherbakov would not miss such a chance. The fact that during the preliminary investigation Orkhan Zeynalov rejected any accusations of a crime strengthens the arguments of those who believe that he did not commit any crime.

            In the opinion of our compatriots living in Russia, the accusations against Orkhan Zeynalov in the "murder" of Yegor Shcherbakov are a game set up by third forces in order to aggravate the situation in Russia and cause clashes and conflicts on interethnic grounds throughout the country.

            Indeed, after the "murder" of Yegor Shcherbakov, ethnic conflicts in Russia have become more frequent. In this country, such clashes occur almost every day. The situation is also heated by the fact that the leadership of Moscow has unequivocally sided with the Russian nationalists, applying double standards to non-Russian citizens of this country. It got to the point that the facts of xenophobia became more frequent even in Moscow schools.
            Read more: http://news.day.az/russia/439566.html

            I wrote that all this seems to be a provocation ... the media too quickly and in the wrong direction inflated the news of this murder.
            1. alone
              alone 24 October 2013 23: 10 New
              +5
              Before you write something, think. A kind of adult, and believe similar with
              fairy tales.
              Eldar Samedov: “What does it mean, no one saw the corpse?”

              “Yegor Shcherbakov was killed on October 10 of this year and Orkhan Zeynalov was detained as a suspect on this fact,” commenting on the information of some media outlets about the possible detention of Yegor Shcherbakov at the Vnukovo airport in Moscow, the representative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Azerbaijan in Russia, police colonel told Vesti.Az Eldar Samedov.

              It should be noted that some media today disseminated information that Shcherbakov was alive and that he was detained while trying to fly to Warsaw. It is reported that the allegedly girl of 25-year-old Egor Shcherbakova, Ksenia Popova, left Russia two days ago and flew to Paris. The source writes that the media that covered this topic have never shown Shcherbakov’s body and funeral, which raised doubts that this murder was actually committed.

              Eldar Samedov said that it’s ridiculous to read unwarranted messages. “What does it mean that no one saw a corpse?” Shcherbakov killed and already buried. They showed the Shcherbakov family on Russian TV channels. Mother and brother spoke. They told how everything was. Shcherbakova’s friend recognized in Zeynalov the man who killed Shcherbakov. Shcherbakov’s relatives said that they have no complaints against the detainee’s family and are ready to meet with the Zeynalovs. The investigation is being monitored by the Embassy of Azerbaijan in Russia and the General Prosecutor's Office of Azerbaijan. Ask yourself the question: “Why on earth did they arrest Orkhan Zeynalov, and not anyone else?” Zeynalov was detained as a suspect, ”Samedov said.

              The policeman also noted that Zeynalov’s right to change his testimony, and the court will determine whether he is guilty or not.
              1. OffenroR
                OffenroR 25 October 2013 04: 05 New
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                Yes, I don’t insist that this is true .... but it’s a dark matter ... how an Azerbaijani saves children and at the same time dies himself The media are silent about this .... but how some "Caucasian origin" killed a Russian, so they immediately howled at the whole world they say "all Caucasians are parasites from head to toe and we must drive them all in the neck."
            2. Revolver
              Revolver 25 October 2013 07: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: OffenroR
              Russian Yegor Shcherbakov, who was "killed" in Moscow by Azerbaijani citizen Orkhan Zeynalov, was detained at Vnukovo airport.

              I think that if you go through Moscow, there will be more than a dozen Egorov Shcherbakovs, and some will even be of the same year of birth.
              I remember when there was a scandal that singer Michael Jackson molested a boy in the mid 2000s, I worked for a company that had access to a database of sex criminals. For the sake of curiosity, I introduced Michael Jackson, CA (Michael Jackson, California), and received a sheet of more than fifty faces. He was there too. So they could very well have detained Yegor Shcherbakov in Vnukovo. But this does not mean that Yegor Shcherbakov was not killed. Here is Orkhan Zeynalov in Moscow most likely one, the one in the bullpen.
            3. Mairos
              Mairos 25 October 2013 09: 22 New
              0
              This troll has already denied itself, he has denied it. This Adagamov yap vilely
              1. OffenroR
                OffenroR 25 October 2013 16: 23 New
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                Quote: Mairos
                This troll

                Hello to the orcs wassat
              2. cherkas.oe
                cherkas.oe 25 October 2013 22: 37 New
                0
                Quote: Mairos
                This troll has already denied itself,

                He is not even a troll, he is.
                1. OffenroR
                  OffenroR 25 October 2013 22: 47 New
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                  Quote: cherkas.oe
                  He is not even a troll, he is.

                  Yes ... you revealed me .... I am Lord Voldemort fellow Now I'll send you Avada Kedavra by mail ... don't make me angry wassat
          2. Tyvinec
            Tyvinec 26 October 2013 03: 09 New
            +1
            Sorry of course, but where do you get such statistics? According to official statistics, on the contrary, pedophile rapists are often people of Slavic nationality, no matter how you deny this. I do not want to offend anyone, I just say it as it is, without any intentions to unleash srach on national grounds. There are no bad nations, there are bad people.

            P.S. The national issue in Russia is a painful one for me, so I could not ignore your comment. TK I myself am not a Slavic nationality and living in my homeland I often have to deal with a prejudiced attitude towards myself as if I was a second-class person or as if I was a “newcomer”. So it goes :)
      2. air wolf
        air wolf 24 October 2013 08: 26 New
        +2
        Yes, not Russian, he look at the face, his mother was an Asian, mestizo.
        1. Yazov
          Yazov 24 October 2013 14: 41 New
          0
          Judging by his face, far from Russian. Asian roots, Asian thoughts in the head.
      3. Forest
        Forest 24 October 2013 09: 23 New
        +8
        Especially the media howl "Russian Wahhabite", although his involvement is not nearly proven.
        1. mole
          mole 24 October 2013 20: 03 New
          +3
          I fully agree "Russian Wakhabite" is a new trend. Better than the scarecrow twins. This is important for puppeteers. The wave has gone so-called. "Russian martyrs - miners". Most likely someone corrects documents in summaries and tries to find the last one. Like "your own", that fell out of the hood. I hope that the specialists on the ground really work off taxes, but unfortunately, I doubt about the genes ...
      4. Vadivak
        Vadivak 24 October 2013 09: 26 New
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        Quote: Marrying
        Dmitry didn’t return home from Arabic courses,


        In fact, they exist at any mosque. But what is taught there except the language? It looks like someone needs to start working on a profile
      5. LaGlobal
        LaGlobal 24 October 2013 09: 54 New
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        Quote: Marrying
        Specially dragged into this linden, supposedly not only our southern neighbors are to blame.


        for such things, do not specifically retract! What few Slavs (Russians) escaped, recruited by Wahhabis, terrorists, etc.?! - enough. He is not the last.

        ... overlooked!
      6. Asgard
        Asgard 24 October 2013 15: 07 New
        +1
        RESERVED ??????????????????????????
        we watch how people come out of UAZ-452 (loaf)) and run to the place of the explosion, don’t help the injured in the bus ??????? And put the passport ???? !!!!!))) Ushlepki .... .
        sorry for the students and Volgorgradtsev ...
        1. Volodin
          24 October 2013 18: 41 New
          +2
          Judging by this wonderful video with "shots" -comments, now on your car, not even a kilometer to approach any bus (but what is there to a bus, to any vehicle) - suddenly, there are people with a rich imagination as organizers the terrorist attack will be recorded ... And after all, surprisingly, you can't even walk - they will say: there are no bystanders ...
          1. Asgard
            Asgard 24 October 2013 18: 59 New
            0
            How does an investigator work?
            The logic of actions and the sequence of events ....
            People often act according to stereotypes.
            Ordinary analytics, well, put yourself in their place ....
            Why the hell have they come to the point of explosion? Meaning?
            Well, we won’t rant, they are touchy guys (still to lodge)))
            But there are still inconsistencies (circumstantial evidence)))
            Who are we humans?- in Ryazan, Volgodonsk, Volgograd, Buinaksk, Guryanov St., Kashirsky highway-electorate ....
            So still imported from Asia and will be 99% .... theft and lies.
            People, where are you? Honest ,,,, in special services, police, in power, in the World ...
            Today I will light a candle at home for students who have died.
            ON PEOPLE. Life has depreciated and we are to blame ...


            not the organizers of the attacks, no .......... WE.
            We do not want to see the Truth, the people who are next to us ..., we justify the "power" who have no conscience, (all condole)) and NOBODY SAID FORGIVE US, did not resign (did not shoot himself)))

            There is no human .......
            1. mole
              mole 24 October 2013 20: 15 New
              +2
              Quote: Asgard
              we justify the "power" who have no conscience, (all condole)) and NOBODY SAID FORGIVE US, did not resign (did not shoot himself))) There is no human ....... [/ b]

              Shcha - shoot!
              He has A CAREER ahead! And you - to shoot ?! He is not a man, but an official. Papers produces. Here the printer was invented, to facilitate work, the result is an increase in workflow. At the same time, the brain was reprogrammed, what an honor, conscience !? Paper can stand it. And the reality is - the more paper - the steeper the career.
        2. waisson
          waisson 24 October 2013 21: 26 New
          +4
          interesting video has something to think about
    2. APES
      APES 24 October 2013 09: 20 New
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      Quote: Civil
      This is war

      There is a war for the minds
      “It is also important that the Russian young man literally under the nose not only of his relatives, but also of representatives of law enforcement agencies, even a few years before the start of terrorist activity began visiting dubious centers that can be called pseudo-Muslim.”

      Friends have a boy of 14 years, Russian - INDEPENDENTLY !!! Decided to accept Islam. The existing ideology is unattractive, even disgusting for the younger generation. Woe-romantics are looking for a way out, and there are those who happily direct their path to hell. And why? Yes, simply there is nothing in the existing state system that could interest them.
      Bismarck said:
      “Teachers win all wars” - today's realities are such that in many Moscow schools Russians become a minority.
      I was shocked when 3 years ago, I saw three Russian girls dressed in a hijab walking towards me. Why? He immediately received an answer: He looked further, and saw Russian guys sitting on a bench drinking beer, swearing and shooting cigarettes from passers-by.
      1. Wii
        Wii 24 October 2013 09: 40 New
        +4
        Source: lenta.ru
        The imam of the city of Kislovodsk, Kurman Baychorov, was detained on suspicion of
        heroin storage. This was announced on October 21 by RIA Novosti.
        At the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Directorate for the North Caucasus Federal
        district reporters were told that four grams were seized from Baychorov
        heroin. A blood test showed that the imam himself used this drug.
        Baychorov confessed and expressed remorse.

        But this is a super preacher of super ideology.
      2. Shumer
        Shumer 24 October 2013 10: 24 New
        +3
        YES, YOU are right, there is no clearly controlled state ideology, here young people, and not only young people, but also older people, are looking for their outlet in this world where everything is tied to dough and material wealth.
      3. Uncle
        Uncle 24 October 2013 11: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: APES
        I was shocked when 3 years ago, I saw three Russian girls dressed in a hijab walking towards me. Why? He immediately received an answer: He looked further, and saw Russian guys sitting on a bench drinking beer, swearing and shooting cigarettes from passers-by.

        It is not surprising that the Western way of life, rooted in the minds of Russian and non-Russian people, encounters an internal contradiction and a desire to live by other laws. It’s only a pity that those Russians didn’t become Christians, but Muslims, it’s a pity that they didn’t see the image of the soul sought after in the way of behavior and life of Christians.
        1. Gooch v. 2
          Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 11: 09 New
          +6
          Quote: Uncle
          It is not surprising that the Western way of life, rooted in the minds of Russian and non-Russian people, encounters an internal contradiction and a desire to live by other laws. It’s only a pity that those Russians didn’t become Christians, but Muslims, it’s a pity that they didn’t see the image of the soul sought after in the way of behavior and life of Christians.

          The Americans are to blame for everything! They make us drink yagu! And to write in elevators! And the State Department is constantly raising gas prices!
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 24 October 2013 13: 35 New
            +6
            Quote: Gooch v.2
            The Americans are to blame for everything!

            You are ironic in vain, an ideological war is going on against Russia, they are throwing dirt on our values, and they are imposing their own. We can’t be taken by arms, so they decided to simply rot. And the influx of Muslims is part of the ideological struggle with Russia. I believe that only by realizing that we are Russians, that we are Christians, we can resist the expansion of Western values.
            1. smprofi
              smprofi 24 October 2013 13: 46 New
              +1
              Quote: Uncle
              an ideological war is going on against Russia, they are throwing mud on our values, imposing their own.

              maybe not quite in the subject ...
              but!
              The Russia-NATO Council held several anti-terrorism exercises in the skies over Poland, Russia and Turkey last month with the participation of fighters, military personnel and command centers from the Arctic to the Black Sea.
              .
              NATO and Russia are also working together to develop technologies for detecting explosives in public places such as airports, metro and railway stations. This year, the Council tested the technology in real conditions.

              NATO Defense Ministers Meeting, Brussels, October 21-22, 2013
              in full (in the language of the State Department):
              http://www.defensenews.com/article/20131023/DEFREG01/310230021/NATO-Defense-Mini
              sters-Agree-Regular-Exercises-From-2016-Discuss-Future-Afghan-Role

              so who imposes values?
              1. Uncle
                Uncle 24 October 2013 13: 59 New
                +3
                Quote: smprofi
                so who imposes values?

                Joint exercises and ideological warfare are two different things. One example: see how many borrowings from the English language in Russian, which you could do without! Instead of a gadget, a device or device, public relations instead of public relations, you’ll figure it out yourself ... A strip club or LGBT session neither sound nor in essence suit neither a Russian, nor any normal person at all. And we must admit our own, that is, the Russian defeat in this war, the same Muslims preserved the cult of the family, look at how many children there, their wives do not go half-dressed. Ours, Christians, too, but our society does not accept them! If a woman does not paint, then she becomes an outcast.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 24 October 2013 14: 29 New
                  +1
                  The strip club, neither in sound nor in essence, is suitable not only for Russian, in general, for no normal person.

                  Maybe it’s essentially not suitable, but somehow you weren’t noticed in the lack of customers. All you live by fairy tales, separate the grains from the chaff
                  the same Muslims preserved the cult of the family, look how many children there, their wives do not go half-dressed.

                  Well, don’t, you have seen few Muslims, and all the more you didn’t live among them. And the half-naked run around and beat the wives, and the woman with them is generally a man of an indefinite sort. I note far from everyone, and the Russians have the same thing as that, not naked families and concern for children. There are different cases, do not enter in absolute
                  about!
                  If a woman does not paint, then she becomes an outcast.

                  You don’t know how Muslim women are painted, just layers of plaster, not cosmetics
                  1. Uncle
                    Uncle 24 October 2013 14: 44 New
                    -1
                    Quote: atalef
                    Maybe it’s essentially not suitable, but somehow they were not noticed in the lack of customers

                    Sin is generally unusual for the human soul. What you described testifies to the distortion of God's image in man.
                    Quote: atalef
                    And half-naked run and beat wives

                    I see something else, in Moscow there are Muslims, in their families there is more order than in the families of "just Russians", without faith at all, except for the "golden calf", of course.
                    Quote: atalef
                    You do not know how Muslim women are painted

                    I am writing about the Orthodox.
                    1. bazilio
                      bazilio 24 October 2013 16: 54 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Uncle
                      Sin is generally unusual for the human soul. What you described testifies to the distortion of God's image in man.

                      Here you are wrong, sin is just the same inherent in man, because the sinful path is "shorter and more convenient"
            2. Abracadabra
              Abracadabra 24 October 2013 14: 56 New
              -3
              How does the West impose its values ​​and "throw mud at Russian values"? Also, "the influx of Muslims is part of the ideological struggle with Russia" !!! Hmm ..
            3. e3tozy
              e3tozy 24 October 2013 23: 39 New
              0
              I agree. This is a real war and we are suffering losses. We were inspired by such values ​​that more than one generation we will hiccup.
        2. APES
          APES 24 October 2013 12: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: Uncle
          It’s only a pity that those Russians didn’t become Christians, but Muslims, it’s a pity that they didn’t see the soul-sought image


          They could not see ... ..
          You know the history of the church. 3 centuries, she was persecuted, Christians were subjected to severe torture, but they were the salt and light of the Earth. By their example, their life, their Christian community, they provoked a desire - to be with them, to live like them. Is there such a thing now?

          Yesterday, in my ward there was an open meeting, before the Proclamation. 400 man came. An hour they were told what the Church is. When they were told that the announcement is the entrance to the Community, which lasts a year. During which they will be helped, taught, looked at them. They said that the Community is also a commitment. At this moment, I had the impression that the floor of the hall “grabbed” wallets ..........

          You can convince someone only by your own example.

          The fact that they made such a choice is our fault too.
          1. Abracadabra
            Abracadabra 24 October 2013 15: 03 New
            -1
            And what example gives the top of the ROC? A patriarch who loves luxury, drunk priests on expensive foreign cars .. Until the Russian Orthodox Church clears itself of mercenary priests serving the authorities, the image will only fall, which is very bad.
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    3. Starfish
      Starfish 24 October 2013 09: 32 New
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      This is a war that lost Dagestani in Moscow? Where are Sokolov's friends? What are unowned Arabic language courses in Chertanovo?

      and what did the remaining millions of Caucasians and Asians lose in Moscow? Yes, what are friends of youth now? many only on the Internet and communicate. and falcons are just a limp bastard, look at the profile photo - there is almost no chin. they probably worked on these courses, and then slipped this woman - maybe even she was the first one. here it is completely turned limp.
      and about the Arabic language courses - yes there are hundreds of them throughout the country. and probably under the control of the FSB. after all, someone even writes reports on the work done, without leaving the office. completely stopped catching mice.
      1. Farvil
        Farvil 24 October 2013 09: 50 New
        +3
        they came to visit our businessmen and officials with gifts in the form of bribes and cheap labor, for the benefit of their employers.
    4. Ascetic
      Ascetic 24 October 2013 12: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: Civil
      What are ownerless Arabic courses in Chertanovo?


      They are not ownerless at all and there are not so few of them, for example, there are Moscow Public Assistance Fund "MOSCOW-ALEPPO"officially registered organization. Head - Shaar Omar Mahmud (VDNH district)
      Marjani Foundation under the leadership of Igor Alekseev from the notorious hotbed of HSE liberalism. The Mardzhani Foundation is a non-governmental, non-profit, non-profit organization that aims to facilitate the implementation of original programs.
      There is Saudi private school in the district of Veshnyaki. Head BAYJAD AL-UTEYBI.
      Typical Salafi, everything is Shariah at school, even little girls wear hijab. There children learn not only Saudis but also Russian Muslims, as a rule, study in Saudi textbooks. From childhood they inspire them to be surrounded by enemies.
      There is Saudi Academy in Moscow
      founded by decree of the Saudi monarch, the keeper of Muslim shrines, and with the approval of the Russian government. The goal is to provide Arabic-language education for the Arabic-speaking diaspora (in particular for further education at home). When the Academy expanded its activities, students from all the republics of the former Soviet Union were able to enter it. Now
      the Academy is studying a significant number of students who arrived, for example, from Tajikistan, Chechnya, and Kazakhstan.

      link
      These courses exist at the embassies of the UAE and Egypt, specialized institutes, both paid and free, for example, at MSU there are free courses. Yes, and private courses and schools are full, they are opened mainly by Syrian, Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs.
      And every Moscow mosque has such courses. In particular, Sokolov attended courses at the Yardam mosque in Otradnoye.
      link
      We're fine. We are not preparing anyone. All teachers are Russians, Muscovites. Mullahs are all Tatars. We have neither foreigners, nor Chechens, nor Dagestanis. We even tried to preach in Tatar. But since recently, more and more people from Central Asia and the Caucasus have come among the parishioners, they are harassing us and saying: we don’t understand Tatar, speak Russian. And now we are now celebrating all holidays and prayers in Russian. We kept the Tatar diaspora to the end. But she doesn’t go to us now. AND we were left alone with the North Caucasus and Central Asians, of whom the majority. But they don’t go to our courses. They are already literate, they all know. They are ready to teach us and are waiting for us to make a mistake.

      Imam of the mosque Ismail Valitov.

      Radicalization goes through the education system, through closed triangles of charitable foundations, mosques and schools. And it is completely official and open.
    5. atalef
      atalef 24 October 2013 14: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Civil
      Is it a war that Dagestanka lost in Moscow? about?

      apparently virginity, back in 2000
    6. Vladimir.z.
      Vladimir.z. 24 October 2013 19: 06 New
      +1
      If the police and FSB operatives would sit in their offices less, and would work more in the "field", then everything described in the article may not have happened .... But the contingent of current operas - for the most part, these are "sons" recruited for a good salary. and "close relatives" .... And as a result, we have what we have
    7. Skiff
      Skiff 25 October 2013 10: 01 New
      -2
      But what the Rosians think about this, I think no one has any doubt that we do not live in a place.
      1. catapractic
        catapractic 25 October 2013 22: 25 New
        0
        monkey...
  2. os9165
    os9165 24 October 2013 08: 11 New
    +8
    All the forces thrown to the opposition were not enough for a terrorist, but they knew her. Why not lead.
    1. RussianRu
      RussianRu 24 October 2013 11: 34 New
      -7
      There it is, that the best detectives are here, comments are written. And mediocrity in the organs serve and komenty do not read, otherwise the disclosure would be off scale.
  3. andrey903
    andrey903 24 October 2013 08: 15 New
    +3
    Usually such courses are provided by the FSB
  4. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 24 October 2013 08: 17 New
    10
    someone in the special services needs to at least reduce the number of stars on uniform.
    I agree! Everyone knew everything controlled ... It's flying!
  5. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 24 October 2013 08: 19 New
    +1
    Judging by the photo on the RUSSIAN passport, I would like to ask one question: "How can such people be given Russian citizenship at all, after all, a shahid woman is written on their face?" For example, I would not get on the same bus with her, I would wait for the next one.
    1. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 24 October 2013 09: 16 New
      +5
      The linden passport, since, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, the oval of the person on the passport must be open. Most likely the photo is pasted.
      1. 12061973
        12061973 24 October 2013 11: 57 New
        +1
        A photo of the whole passport was taken on August 3, 2013, when Asiyalova, presenting her passport during passport control, came across a hijab printed on top of a regular photo of her printout. If someone doesn’t know why she stuck this photo, contact any Muslim who is familiar with the problem of Wahhabism.
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 24 October 2013 12: 44 New
          +4
          In the media, 3 versions of the passport have already been shown — children’s theater, whole and torn with different faces by Asiyalova at different ages.
    2. loisop
      loisop 24 October 2013 09: 51 New
      +1
      And what, if not Russian, passport should have received
      a native of the Republic of Dagestan Naida Asiyalova
      ? Or is Dagestan no longer part of the Russian Federation?
  6. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 24 October 2013 08: 20 New
    +4
    Strange courses and why are still not closed yet?
    1. Neighbor
      Neighbor 24 October 2013 10: 51 New
      +2
      The cadets are also "close".
  7. patriot2
    patriot2 24 October 2013 08: 31 New
    21
    Quote: Boot under the carpet
    For example, I would not get on the same bus with her, I would wait for the next.

    In Peter and Moscow, thousands of such ladies roam hijabs. In France, for example, the wearing of hijabs was banned. We do not live in the UAE and not in Saudi Arabia, but in Russia - you can’t risk the lives of thousands of people because of Islamic traditions, since under the hijab anyone can hide and do anything, hiding his face!
    This is especially true for cities with a population of more than a million people.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 24 October 2013 14: 25 New
      0
      Quote: patriot2
      Quote: Boot under the carpet
      For example, I would not get on the same bus with her, I would wait for the next.

      In Peter and Moscow, thousands of such ladies roam hijabs. In France, for example, the wearing of hijabs was banned. We do not live in the UAE and not in Saudi Arabia, but in Russia - you can’t risk the lives of thousands of people because of Islamic traditions, since under the hijab anyone can hide and do anything, hiding his face!
      This is especially true for cities with a population of more than a million people.

      gulchite show face, well show? The end of the Red Army is known to all.
  8. Muxauk
    Muxauk 24 October 2013 08: 36 New
    +6
    a separate prison for such people, since execution is prohibited, and let them work 16 hours a day. why aren’t leaders of such courses caught in our country? and do not accidentally kill during detention?
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 24 October 2013 10: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: MuxaHuk
      a separate prison for such people, since execution is prohibited, and let them work 16 hours a day. why aren’t leaders of such courses caught in our country? and do not accidentally kill during detention?

      at the expense of the prison separate for them, it’s right, in prisons they carry out a fraudulent campaign, because there the necessary contingent is there and they recruit new supporters.
  9. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 24 October 2013 08: 40 New
    +2
    This is a jamb! .. First of all, the close ones overlooked the kid ... But what was next the fascination with Islam, operational development, provocation - it’s a dark matter and we will find out the truth in the part that the society will allow to see, only if Sokolov will be detained alive and will stand trial.
    1. alone
      alone 24 October 2013 19: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Scary ensign
      This is a jamb! .. First of all, the close ones overlooked the kid ... But what was next the fascination with Islam, operational development, provocation - it’s a dark matter and we will find out the truth in the part that the society will allow to see, only if Sokolov will be detained alive and will stand trial.


      100% sure that in the near future this falcon will be destroyed during the CTO and all ends will sink. And all the security forces will report: the organizers of the attack were destroyed.
      premium, extraordinary ranks, etc., etc.
  10. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 24 October 2013 08: 47 New
    +6
    I wonder why in a secular document a photo in a scarf. Still, black glasses and wigs would be allowed. He came, said that pid ... s and here is the photo in the passport corresponding.
  11. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn 24 October 2013 08: 47 New
    +8
    Two hours after the attack, the first page of the passport was published on Twitter on behalf of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee, on which Naid Asiyalova was wearing a hijab. This automatically means that the passport is invalid - according to Russian law, photographing on documents in the hijab is prohibited.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 09: 03 New
      +9
      Quote: nnnnnn
      This automatically means that the passport is invalid - according to Russian law, photographing on documents in the hijab is prohibited.

      By the way, yes, and who issued such a passport and why does she travel with him half the country.
      1. Eternal demobilization
        Eternal demobilization 24 October 2013 09: 19 New
        +4
        Yes, no one probably gave out, most likely, they themselves stuck a photo in a hijab.
        1. Migari
          Migari 24 October 2013 14: 28 New
          +3
          The photo in the hijab was pasted on top, on the first photo.
      2. Eternal demobilization
        Eternal demobilization 24 October 2013 09: 21 New
        +4
        And if you look carefully, another photo is looking along the right vertical. Well, it seems to me that I’m looking at my passport, and my wife and child, we don’t have such a jamb.
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 24 October 2013 09: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        By the way, yes, and who issued such a passport


        It also says the Federal Tax Service of Russia for the Republic of Dagestan, soon they will take pictures in a burqa
        1. Analyst
          Analyst 24 October 2013 10: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadivak
          soon in the burqa they will take pictures


          And if our girls want a photo in the kokoshnik? Probably immediately refuse :)
    2. Mikado
      Mikado 24 October 2013 09: 06 New
      +4
      Yes, there it is generally visible that the photo is pasted on top of some other
      1. igor67
        igor67 24 October 2013 13: 30 New
        +6
        Quote: Mikado
        Yes, there it is generally visible that the photo is pasted on top of some other

        Do you guys not watch your news? Immediately on the news they said that the photo in burqa was pasted on the normal photo, and about Sokolov his whole story: his mother defended him of course, said that she had not seen him for a year, but she was the mother, the neighbors said the guy had been locked up all his life and saw him a month ago, the correspondent asked again when the answer a month ago was HOME
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 31 New
          +2
          Why watch the news, they already know everything.
    3. Asgard
      Asgard 24 October 2013 09: 20 New
      30
      This is an imitation of a passport ...
      People shawal, just a professional level in the special services fell below the baseboard ..
      It was also necessary to photograph her with a grenade))

      P_R_I_SH_I_B_L_E_N_Y_E
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. RussianRu
        RussianRu 24 October 2013 11: 52 New
        +2
        This is an imitation of a passport ...
        People shawal, just a professional level in the special services fell below the baseboard ..
        It was also necessary to photograph her with a grenade))

        Asgard. You're kind of an educated person. And with this koment in my eyes, you crouched something. Pasted hijab photo. Why did you conclude that these are tricks of the special services, where does such confidence come from? The idea that she did it herself or her friends Islamists. You do not allow.
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 24 October 2013 13: 04 New
          +4
          no, I don’t admit (they don’t have access to official resources))) ... and I don’t see the point, a person goes to die and pastes a photo ...
          Even let's stick it in)) but the passport survived and as good as new ...
          Then another passport appears, under the same numbers and chewed ...
          The nature of the terrorist attack and its implementation (analytics))))
          I often found documents from militants who survived a mine explosion, it looks a bit different)))
          I have not only Education but also Experience (my friend)) ....
          If I write here, then I do not insert links to resources)) At the top of my picture hangs, you can refer ....
          if I doubt, I do not participate in the discussion or say so that I do not Know .....
          Well for your doubt + (grow)))))
          1. RussianRu
            RussianRu 24 October 2013 13: 55 New
            -3
            Of course there is no access to official resources. But, in the photograph of the passport it can be seen that the photo is not laminated, so there is nothing to do with the resource.
            and I don’t see the point, a person goes to die and sticks a photo ...
            The soul of man is dark, a known fact. Someone does not care about the little things, but someone does not. Someone makes a tattoo of the name of a beloved, someone does not. The passport has survived. Because it is not known where he was in her pocket or bra, or maybe in his hands.
            I often found documents from militants who survived a mine explosion, it looks a bit different)))
            I have not only Education but also Experience (my friend)) ....
            If so, then you should know that there are exceptions to the explosion. According to the logic of things, an object should break into rubbish, but it should not even be scratched. With this you can not disagree.
            Then another passport appears, under the same numbers and chewed ...
            And this is not all clear. Nothing can be ruled out, and digital technology too.
          2. RussianRu
            RussianRu 24 October 2013 14: 42 New
            0

            Don't you notice anything strange here? Who are the UAZ? Why did they jump out? The author of the video himself did not approach the bus, although the distance allowed and the "Kalina" gave way. None of the other fellow passengers got out of their cars. People began to approach to the aid from oncoming cars. So there are a lot of oddities in this terrorist attack. And not only with paports.
            1. Yazov
              Yazov 24 October 2013 15: 46 New
              +2
              Well lost ,, Kalina ,, and, what? They jumped out of the UAZ, they wanted to help. The remaining bespectacles were trimmed and wiped sitting. That's the whole layout. Or do you want to say that special. services led it and themselves remotely blew it up? Yes, before that they forbade everyone to get out of the cars? But they didn’t hear the ban at the oncoming lane and ran to help! Or was there a flasher on the UAZ, so that Kalina gave way? Rave. Wander alone Russian Ruuuuu ......
            2. alone
              alone 24 October 2013 19: 55 New
              +3
              look at 0.05 on the video. the shock wave touched a little UAZ too. people came running to the bus, and then after thinking about the 2 explosion they ran back.
              sadly
    4. Corporal
      Corporal 24 October 2013 09: 24 New
      +5
      News January 11, 2013

      Muslim women traveling to work in Russia are allowed to be photographed for documents in hijabs, said FMS spokeswoman Zalina Kornilova on Friday.

      This follows from the order, which was signed by the head of the Federal Migration Service, Konstantin Romodanovsky, Interfax reports.
      “The order says: photography is allowed in hats that do not hide the oval of the faces of people whose religious beliefs do not allow outsiders to appear without a hat. Photographing in outer clothing, scarves covering part of the chin is not allowed, ”said Kornilova.

      “These requirements are identical to the photographing requirements for passports of the Russian Federation,” she said.
    5. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 24 October 2013 10: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: nnnnnn
      The first page of the passport was published by the National Anti-Terrorism Committee, on which Naid Asiyalova was wearing a hijab.

      This is fake, the photo is simply superimposed on the photo of the passport.
  12. makarov
    makarov 24 October 2013 08: 49 New
    +4
    Why can't there be another solution? The guy (Sokolov) fell for the promise of big money for the conclusion of a fictitious marriage. Then he was no longer needed, and therefore "disappeared". The scheme of such legalization is not new, only they are silent about this for unknown reasons.
  13. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn 24 October 2013 08: 50 New
    +9
    Another image of the martyr’s passport, more like a document that visited the site of the explosion, got into the information space. The page of the passport is wrinkled and torn, and in the photo of Asiyalov it is already without a hijab, with her hair loose. Apparently, a discrepancy was also noticed in NAK. However, why did the security forces hastily put up a fake on their resource?
    And where is the TRUTH?
    1. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 24 October 2013 09: 23 New
      +2
      In, he did not get to this message, therefore, he wrote above that something was wrong with the passport.
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    3. Nayhas
      Nayhas 24 October 2013 13: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: nnnnnn
      However, why did the security forces hastily put up a fake on their resource?
      And where is the TRUTH?

      This is the same passport, only it was cheated and the photo was removed. This whole topic about Asiyalova is nothing more than a lie ...
    4. ed65b
      ed65b 24 October 2013 14: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: nnnnnn
      Another image of the martyr’s passport, more like a document that visited the site of the explosion, got into the information space. The page of the passport is wrinkled and torn, and in the photo of Asiyalov it is already without a hijab, with her hair loose. Apparently, a discrepancy was also noticed in NAK. However, why did the security forces hastily put up a fake on their resource?
      And where is the TRUTH?

      I saw the same passport on TV. I think he is her real one.
    5. alone
      alone 24 October 2013 19: 57 New
      +1
      the truth is somewhere nearby. but we will never recognize her.
  14. Gooch v. 2
    Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 08: 54 New
    +7
    Uncle Vova's rating dropped, it was urgent to raise it, voila, a terrorist attack on a silver platter, the FSB officers probably did not think when the passport was put into the washing machine that the painted hijab could be erased, but this is a completely different story, by the way, in the supposedly "original" photo, with a hijab, the shoulders are clearly visible, with a sweater, allegedly "terrorists" lol in what place is it interesting she kept the passport if it is so well preserved? the bus to smithereens, and the passport is as good as new, but nevertheless the guys realized that they should be pushed into the washing machine and smeared in some kind of fuel oil)
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 24 October 2013 09: 01 New
      -4
      Quote: Gooch v. 2
      in what place is it interesting she kept the passport if it is so well preserved?

      Are you our explosives specialist?
      Who told you that the FSB provided the passport photo?
      I believe that this is the customers of the attack.
      Only the troll on the forum is not mistaken.
      1. Gooch v. 2
        Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 10: 50 New
        +6
        Quote: Boris55
        Are you our explosives specialist?
        Who told you that the FSB provided the passport photo?
        I believe that this is the customers of the attack.
        Only the troll on the forum is not mistaken.

        Are the customers the same as in Ryazan in '99? :) then yes, they really scammed
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 24 October 2013 12: 53 New
          -6
          Quote: Gooch v. 2
          Are the customers the same as in Ryazan in 99?

          Did Berezovsky tell you that? So he repented before death ... but it didn’t reach you?
          1. Gooch v. 2
            Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Boris55
            Quote: Gooch v. 2
            Are the customers the same as in Ryazan in 99?

            Did Berezovsky tell you that? So he repented before death ... but it didn’t reach you?

            no, Barack Huseynovich called me, and so he says, ofigeli terrorists completely
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 18 New
            0
            This creature will never reach.
            1. Gooch v. 2
              Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Spade
              This creature will never reach.

              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 35 New
                +1
                Pictures forgot to insert? Yeah ... As in a joke, twice impotent-bite his tongue.
                1. Gooch v. 2
                  Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 36 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  Pictures forgot to insert? Yeah ... As in a joke, twice impotent-bite his tongue.

                  I thought it would be better for you) but no, it didn’t, are you still eager to crow?
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 42 New
                    +2
                    Do you assert yourself, shkolota? I understand that with zero knowledge on the topic it is difficult to do, but it’s so stupid to expose yourself, it’s already too much.
                    1. Gooch v. 2
                      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 48 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Spade
                      Do you assert yourself, shkolota? I understand that with zero knowledge on the topic it is difficult to do, but it’s so stupid to expose yourself, it’s already too much.

                      Congratulations, you are now adult and dumb
                      Now no one dares call you shkolota
                      And, even more than that, now it's free
                      You can call anyone shkolota yourself (s)
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 56 New
                        0
                        Powerful. You better look again than you will melt steel in the explosion.
                      2. Gooch v. 2
                        Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 00 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Spade
                        Powerful. You better look again than you will melt steel in the explosion.

                        I repeat for the gifted. :)

                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        Well, you - don’t you know that terrorists have passports spoken? They're not on the bus don't burn in skyscrapers, don't tear
                        that's what I wanted to convey.) the steel melts, the concrete crumbles, the person breaks into small pieces, and the passport, here it is! kindly)


                        Speech about 9/11 attacks ok?
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 24 October 2013 14: 07 New
                        0
                        No, this feint ass you will not succeed.
                        Quote: Gooch v.2
                        Well, you - don’t you know that terrorists have passports spoken? They are no buses don't burn in skyscrapers, don't tear
                      4. Gooch v. 2
                        Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 14 New
                        +8
                        Quote: Spade
                        No, this feint ass you will not succeed.

                        Do you really have your own atmosphere there? ) or do you use illegal drugs? In my opinion, for the third time I’ve been explaining to you what I had in mind, I have a mention of concrete in my comment, according to your logic, then we have concrete buses if Guch says so in his comments, I’m sorry, I really didn’t want to go down to your level - that is, insults, but I regret to say that you are a spherical baobab in a vacuum. )
                      5. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 24 October 2013 14: 17 New
                        +2
                        Once again, we are talking about a terrorist’s passport. Which, in the opinion of the two couch experts, simply could not survive. So do not need these wagging.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 09: 06 New
    12
    Quote: Gooch v.2
    the bus to smithereens, and the passport is as good as new,

    The passport is the same, why are the photos different? Or what, in the Caucasus now they give two passports in one hand. One in a hijab for local wearing and the second for Moscow ???????????????? What the fuck
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 24 October 2013 11: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The passport is the same, why are the photos different?

      look at the side, on the right side of the room, different ....
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 24 October 2013 13: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: smersh70
        look at the side, on the right side of the room, different ....

        The passport is the same. Only the state is different. The number and series coincide completely, the signatures and seals are completely identical, the spots are the same, the difference is only in the photo, where the photo in the hijab is superimposed on the real photo, the edge of the jacket is visible on the right, which is then visible on the real photo of the woman.
  • Zerstorer
    Zerstorer 24 October 2013 09: 53 New
    +4
    Quote: Gooch v.2
    Uncle Vova’s rating fell,

    No, that's not the point. The fact is that certain circles are promoting a national conflict. Where did this hijab photo come from? I think this is pre-prepared information that was thrown after the attack.
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 10: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Zerstorer
      No, that's not the point. The fact is that certain circles are promoting a national conflict. Where did this hijab photo come from? I think this is pre-prepared information that was thrown after the attack.

      passport after the attack as new? she probably wore it specially in vacuum packaging so that when she explodes with blood she doesn’t stain
  • Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 24 October 2013 11: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Gooch v.2
    in what place is it interesting she kept the passport if it is so well preserved?

    And the fact that she could have a few bags didn’t occur to you? laughing
    Do we have everything and always drive strictly with one bag? wink
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 11: 13 New
      11
      Quote: Landwarrior
      And the fact that she could have a few bags didn’t occur to you?
      Do we have everything and always drive strictly with one bag?

      you are just a giant of thought. :) +100500 you to intelligence, and yet there are oddities
      1. She exploded, and the passport is intact. It happens, of course, but ...
      2. Why is the photo in the hijab and not as it should be?

      there may be several versions.
      - Photoshop (unlikely, because it’s not like photoshop), and why?
      - On top of a standard photo, a kosher photo is pasted - in a hijab, so that everything is religious ... Minus of the version: with such a pasted photo - until the first cop, because the passport actually becomes invalid. At best, they will ask you to tear. Why then glue?
      - For some unknown reason, they put a picture in a hijab on their passport. What for? Meaning?

      And of course it’s powerful - to go about business with a passport, which is also successfully preserved in the very epicenter of the explosion ... Yes, even with a photo in a hijab.
      1. Landwarrior
        Landwarrior 24 October 2013 11: 37 New
        +3
        Quote: Gooch v.2
        1. She exploded, and the passport is intact. It happens, of course, but ...
        2. Why is the photo in the hijab and not as it should be?

        Well, o5-25 ... This is a passport photo! wink
        A photo of a passport with a hijab may be earlier, say, from a page on the social network on the Internet. You didn’t allow this? wink I could not stick a photo of sales, but just attach and take a picture, then put it out, they say, that's what I am. And why "on business" with a passport, well, Duc there are a lot of options, maybe she didn't want to jerk off on the bus, but just drove, but somewhere it was short-circuited. Maybe she just took it out of habit, or maybe I forgot to put it out, who knows request
        Quote: Gooch v.2
        you are just a giant of thought. :) +100500 you to intellect

        Well, of course, you have never heard of "brainstorming" laughing
        1. Gooch v. 2
          Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 11: 44 New
          +5
          Quote: Landwarrior
          Well, o5-25 ... This is a passport photo!
          A passport photo with a hijab may be earlier, say, from a page on the social network on the Internet. You didn’t allow this? I couldn’t stick the sales photo, but just attach and take a picture, then lay out, they say, here I am

          Yes, it’s unlikely that she is one of those who like to grumble vkontakshle or classmates, everything is simpler, This passport, without a doubt, is made exclusively for liar-media. This explains all of his oddities. After several hours of media Sabbath, the directors laid out a real Wahhabi passport

          There are too many coincidences, someone really needed to keep the passport safe and sound, and everyone must have thought that the aunt in the black scarf was to blame for everything, because the people
          1. Landwarrior
            Landwarrior 24 October 2013 11: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Gooch v. 2
            After several hours of media Sabbath, the directors laid out a real Wahhabi passport

            And where did you get the idea that the 2nd is real, and not the 1st? Again, no less oddities ... Okay, just kidding lol
            Quote: Gooch v.2
            Yes, it’s unlikely that she is one of those who like to grumble vkontakshle or classmates,

            There are Facebook, Instagram and other garbage. lol Okay, although I doubt it, I accept wink Until proven otherwise wink

            I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, I just looked for the simplest answer options from the layman's point of view winked
            1. Gooch v. 2
              Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 11: 58 New
              +3
              Quote: Landwarrior
              I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, I just looked for the simplest answer options from the layman's point of view

              there are more than enough coincidences, immediately after the passport photos were thrown in, an interesting action unfolded, a video was posted with an attack on the Volgograd prayer house (from surveillance cameras, directly from the investigative materials, with an explanation of the investigation!) by which they will now expose and establish "Russian nationalists ".
          2. Uncle
            Uncle 24 October 2013 13: 51 New
            +3
            Quote: Gooch v.2
            This passport, without a doubt, is made exclusively for liar-media. This explains all of his oddities. After several hours of media Sabbath, the directors laid out a real Wahhabi passport

            I agree, but why such clumsy work? Society hold for idiots?
            1. Gooch v. 2
              Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 53 New
              +5
              Quote: Uncle
              I agree, but why such clumsy work? Society hold for idiots?

              you might think in our power and power structures, highly intelligent people are sitting.
            2. Nayhas
              Nayhas 24 October 2013 13: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: Uncle
              I agree, but why such clumsy work? Society hold for idiots?

              Either the negligent attitude of the performers, or a subtle game.
              1. Uncle
                Uncle 24 October 2013 14: 09 New
                +1
                Quote: Nayhas
                Either the negligent attitude of the performers, or a subtle game.

                Rather, I believe in negligence, no one will understand such subtleties. I think that, as in the case of Biryulyovo, we took the opportunity to play the Wahhabi card. Like, look people, what a frostbitten woman, in a black scarf and even a terrorist. The stupid boss gave the command to "mold a hunchback", blinded him, dumped it in the media, then they chummed that bullshit was complete, now they crackle on the radio that the FSB was leading it! They had a photo of her passport! She was self-detonated remotely, because she was heading to Moscow! This, of course, is correct, the death of Volgograd and Muscovites is not the same thing, even if it’s better in Volgograd than in Moscow.
          3. Landwarrior
            Landwarrior 24 October 2013 14: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Gooch v.2
            Yes, it’s unlikely that she is one of those who like to grumble vkontakshle or classmates


            Now look at the beginning of the article:
            The aforementioned grandfather of Dmitry Sokolov, who was interviewed by reporters of Komsomolskaya Pravda, states that his grandson and Asiyalova met online, and quite quickly after the “electronic” meeting, Naida Asiyalova ended up in Moscow.


            So my version is that
            A photo of a passport with a hijab may be earlier, say, from a page on the social network on the Internet.
            still has a right to exist laughing
            1. Gooch v. 2
              Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 52 New
              +4
              Quote: Landwarrior
              So my version is that

              Well, if you ask the question in this vein, then she could meet in ICQ, QIP, Skype, Mail.ru Agente, but at least on the same FUEL! ) The Internet is a loose concept)
              1. Landwarrior
                Landwarrior 24 October 2013 15: 14 New
                0
                Quote: Gooch v.2
                Well, if you ask the question in this vein

                And in what other way? request
                Was she able to handle Ineta? I could! so (theoretically) I could upload photos as well. Could not she herself, someone else. you write yourself
                Quote: Gooch v. 2
                Internet concept loose
                laughing And also monitored lol And if she was "under the hood", at least formally, then her traffic was monitored laughing

                PS so for the future - QIP is a client for ICQ i.e. same wink
                1. Gooch v. 2
                  Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 15: 19 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Landwarrior
                  PS so for the future - QIP is a client for ICQ

                  come on? Seriously? Mail s.ru land is also an alternative client for ICQ, go to off. qip site and look at the services they provide. And then go to ICQ’s website and poke their resources, and then tell us about the fact that this is the same thing.
                  1. Landwarrior
                    Landwarrior 24 October 2013 15: 24 New
                    0
                    Quote: Gooch v.2
                    come on? Seriously?

                    I knew that there would be no objection to the first point laughing

                    QIP-alternative client for ICQ, the protocol is the same wink
                    However, this will not concern business laughing
                    1. Gooch v. 2
                      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 15: 26 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Landwarrior
                      Quote: Gooch v.2
                      come on? Seriously?

                      I knew that there would be no objection to the first point laughing

                      QIP-alternative client for ICQ, the protocol is the same wink
                      However, this will not concern business laughing

                      but why shake the air?) to whom what to prove?)
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 24 October 2013 11: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Gooch v. 2
        which, even at the very epicenter of the explosion, is so successfully preserved ...


        Well, you - don’t you know that terrorists have passports spoken? Well, they don’t burn on buses or skyscrapers, do not break
        1. Gooch v. 2
          Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 12: 00 New
          +5
          Quote: Yarosvet
          Well, you - don’t you know that terrorists have passports spoken? Well, they don’t burn on buses or skyscrapers, do not break

          that's what I wanted to convey.) the steel melts, the concrete crumbles, the person breaks into small pieces, and the passport, here it is! kindly)
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 23 New
            0
            This is from the point of view of a sofa expert. In fact, this is not so at all.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 24 October 2013 14: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Spade
              In fact, this is not so at all.

              Lopatov said. But about how it really is - Lopatov has nothing to say laughing
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 24 October 2013 15: 11 New
                0
                We pulled out documents and a pack of fake bucks from the stump of an action movie without legs, hands and heads. Perfectly preserved, only a fragment of slightly spoiled. Sometimes the clothes are torn off during an explosion. Documents and notebooks are also perfectly preserved.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 24 October 2013 17: 49 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  We pulled out documents and a pack of fake bucks from the stump of an action movie without legs, hands and heads. Perfectly preserved, only a fragment of slightly spoiled. Sometimes the clothes are torn off during an explosion. Documents and notebooks are also perfectly preserved.

                  What blew up?
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 24 October 2013 20: 28 New
                    0
                    Mortar 120 mm. Stripped - tank HE projectile for UAZ.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 24 October 2013 22: 10 New
                      +1
                      Maybe there can be ...

                      There is no photo of Asiyalova’s body, but it’s a pity ...
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 22 New
          -1
          Have you ever seen people injured in an explosion? Or do you think your sofa expertise is more true?
          1. Gooch v. 2
            Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 33 New
            0
            Quote: Spade
            Have you ever seen people injured in an explosion? Or do you think your sofa expertise is more true?

            I saw a shovel injured.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 38 New
              0
              You have not seen anything in life, all the knowledge from the Internet. The steel he melts during the explosion ... Where does this only come from?
              1. Gooch v. 2
                Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 43 New
                +5
                Quote: Spade
                You have not seen anything in life, all the knowledge from the Internet. The steel he melts during the explosion ... Where does this only come from?

                a minute of chemistry on topvar.ru, starring Lopatov.
                Termite mixture - a powdery mixture of aluminum (less often magnesium) with oxides of various metals (usually iron).
                When ignited, it burns out intensively with the release of a large amount of heat (has a combustion temperature 2300 — 2700 ° C) The mixture is ignited with a special igniter (a mixture of barium peroxide, magnesium and sodium). The quantitative ratio of the components of the mixture is determined by the stoichiometric ratio. The most common iron-aluminum termite: Fe2O3 = 75%; Al = 25% (containing calcined scale or rich iron ore) used for welding rails and for casting large parts. The ignition temperature of such a termite is about 1300 ° C (ignition mixture 800 ° C); the resulting iron and slag are heated to 2400 ° C.

                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 51 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Gooch v.2
                  a minute of chemistry on topvar.ru, starring Lopatov.
                  Termite mixture - a powdery mixture of aluminum (less often magnesium) with oxides of various metals (usually iron).

                  Hooray, shkolota opened Wikipedia. But it’s not written there that the termite mixture does not explode, but burns out. And so shkolota again sat in a puddle.

                  If the termite mixture is started in the martyr’s belt, it will not be a terrorist attack but self-immolation without consequences for those around him.
                  1. Gooch v. 2
                    Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 56 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Spade
                    Hooray, shkolota opened Wikipedia. But it’s not written there that the termite mixture does not explode, but burns out. And so shkolota again sat in a puddle.

                    Yes, it’s rather you sat down in a puddle, because I was not talking about the Volgograd terrorist attack, but about 9/11. There, too, there was a story with the passport of one of the terrorists. And I didn’t know that the termite mixture is explosive. But .. you have your own atmosphere there

                    If the termite mixture is started in the martyr’s belt, it will not be a terrorist attack but self-immolation without consequences for those around him.

                    this idiocy even comment on nebudu, you have a logic like a woman during the premenstrual cycle, she came up with nonsense - she was offended.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 24 October 2013 14: 05 New
                      0
                      Quote: Gooch v.2
                      and it’s rather you got into a puddle, for I was not talking about the Volgograd terrorist attack, but about 9/11.

                      And what, in that attack was used explosive?
                      In addition, we are talking about a passport, which means it was a terrorist attack in Volgograd.
                      After all, he had to burn out during the explosion. What kind of july out of the blue?

                      Quote: Gooch v.2
                      this idiocy even comment on nebudu

                      Because you have never seen a burning thermite mixture? I approve, at least once I haven’t exposed myself as an idiot. And then I was about to bring you a snout.
                    2. Gooch v. 2
                      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 10 New
                      +3
                      And what, in that attack was used explosive?

                      In that attack, an airplane was used, with several tens of tons of fuel.
                      In addition, we are talking about a passport, which means it was a terrorist attack in Volgograd.

                      Uncle Lopatov, read the results of the September 9 attacks, there as an important thing the dock is given a passport of one and the terrorists. for those who are in the tank photo.

                      Because you have never seen a burning thermite mixture? I approve, at least once I haven’t exposed myself as an idiot. And then I was about to bring you a snout.

                      I had the honor to see) your muzzle, but like any other person’s standards, I have a face, infa hundred percent. )
                    3. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 24 October 2013 14: 14 New
                      0
                      Quote: Gooch v.2
                      In that attack, an airplane was used, with several tens of tons of fuel.

                      Fuel is not explosive. Wikipedia did not write about this?


                      Quote: Gooch v.2
                      Uncle Lopatov, read the results of the September 9 attacks, there as an important thing the dock is given a passport of one and the terrorists. for those who are in the tank photo.

                      We have already disassembled this feint, it did not work out for you.


                      Quote: Gooch v.2
                      Had the honor of seeing

                      But lying is not good. Mom scolds.
                    4. Gooch v. 2
                      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 21 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Spade
                      Fuel is not explosive. Wikipedia did not write about this?


                      Quote: aviafor
                      Airplanes use a lot of measures in case of emergency landings:
                      - emergency fuel drain (drain time up to 5-7 minutes);
                      - use of the firework system (runs parallel to all fire hazardous places (engines, fuel lines, etc.));
                      But it is not possible to remove fumes from fuel tanks. (The main cause of the explosions).


                      We have already disassembled this feint, it did not work out for you.

                    5. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 24 October 2013 14: 27 New
                      0
                      Once again for shkolota: fuel is not explosive.
                    6. Gooch v. 2
                      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 37 New
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      Once again for shkolota: fuel is not explosive.

                      plane, car, rocket - explosives.


                    7. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 24 October 2013 14: 44 New
                      +1
                      Yeah, sailed. I want to say about the study of materiel, but it is unlikely to help.
                      Start at least by studying the differences between detonation and explosive combustion.

                      Something Experts sofas are quite inadequate at all. See the rain
                    8. Gooch v. 2
                      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 47 New
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      Yeah, sailed. I want to say about the study of materiel, but it is unlikely to help.
                      Start at least by studying the differences between detonation and explosive combustion.

                      Something Experts sofas are quite inadequate at all. See the rain

                      Tell this to a plane that flying into your window will either detonate or explode. In any case, be careful to keep your passport with you, because as practice shows, it has refractory properties and it will become much easier to identify you.
                    9. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 24 October 2013 15: 13 New
                      0
                      Not doing that. He said, go study. This is more useful.
                    10. Gooch v. 2
                      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 15: 23 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Spade
                      Not doing that. He said, go study. This is more useful.

                      okay grandfather, I'm sorry for calling you a baobab? aren't you angry?
  • Uncle
    Uncle 24 October 2013 14: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: Spade
    If the termite mixture is started in the martyr’s belt, it will not be a terrorist attack but self-immolation without consequences for those around him.

    This is what they should be advised at the courses of martyrs, you’ll burn like a Bengal light! The beauty! And immediately to heaven!
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 24 October 2013 14: 18 New
      +3
      And most importantly, safe for others. People will run away even at the stage of ignition of the initiator.
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 24 October 2013 14: 02 New
    +6
    And I still remember how they "attempted" on Shevardnadze ... On the body of the murdered, they found ALL documents, almost to the work book ... Think of this ... as if those who go to kill the head of state put their pockets documents and write an autobiography ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 24 October 2013 14: 09 New
      +1
      In Russia, it is difficult to move from one city to another without a passport.
  • Forest
    Forest 24 October 2013 09: 30 New
    +6
    There is no evidence that Sokolov was involved in the terrorist attack, only naked speculations and dubious conjectures.
  • Chukcha
    Chukcha 24 October 2013 09: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: The eternal demobilization
    And if you look carefully, another photo is looking along the right vertical. Well, it seems to me that I’m looking at my passport, and my wife and child, we don’t have such a jamb.

    Right! The photo is pasted on top.
    Crude work.
  • white_f
    white_f 24 October 2013 09: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: nnnnnn
    Two hours after the attack, the first page of the passport was published on Twitter on behalf of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee, on which Naid Asiyalova was wearing a hijab. This automatically means that the passport is invalid - according to Russian law, photographing on documents in the hijab is prohibited.


    only I see the pasted photo in the passport ??? what
  • Hellriker
    Hellriker 24 October 2013 09: 50 New
    +2
    Everything is somehow muddy. With Daunenk-Sokolov, everything is more or less clear, there are such fools who believe gypsies and other charlatans. It is not clear why TWO passports of this creature, and why the FSB, instead of holding such colorful characters under a cap, is engaged in all kinds of nonsense.
    ps It is necessary to collect the scraps of this Naida, sew them up in pork skin and bury them in a cesspool. Be sure to live, so that all Wahhabis see, know and fear.
  • Lone wolf
    Lone wolf 24 October 2013 10: 09 New
    +2
    Hmm 1992, he still has not dried milk on his lips!
  • Lone wolf
    Lone wolf 24 October 2013 10: 10 New
    +1
    I don’t understand this at all! Why and for what is done ?!
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 24 October 2013 10: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Lone Wolf
      I don’t understand this at all! Why and for what is done ?!

      it’s exactly what is happening in their heads that they are ready to kill themselves and kill others, it’s not clear, like in all religions it is said that suicide and killing others is a mortal sin.
  • rrrd
    rrrd 24 October 2013 10: 14 New
    +1
    Oversight of the security forces. There is a lot that is not clear!
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 24 October 2013 10: 21 New
      0
      Since when has the media turned into a security official?
  • Ahmed Osmanov
    Ahmed Osmanov 24 October 2013 10: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Marrying
    Another linden tree. Specially dragged into this linden, supposedly not only our southern neighbors are to blame.

    What are you talking about in the ranks of the militants in the North Caucasus, there are Russian guys. Believe me !!!!
    1. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 24 October 2013 11: 21 New
      +1
      For example, Said is Buryat, although he is Russian only by father, and his mother is Buryat.
      1. alone
        alone 24 October 2013 20: 06 New
        0
        that Said Buryat, one paul Kosolapov what it costs
  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 24 October 2013 10: 23 New
    +7
    someone launched a passport on the Internet ... for what? to sow doubts and decide that the attack is a setup of the special services? likely.

    In fact, the passport is exhausted and completely without a hijab.
    people do not get fooled by stuffing
  • Strashila
    Strashila 24 October 2013 11: 25 New
    0
    They didn’t miss ... but they hardened and obviously not a little.
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 24 October 2013 11: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: Marrying
    Another linden tree. Specially dragged into this linden, supposedly not only our southern neighbors are to blame.

    But why, blacks are never to blame, and the Russian is only to blame for being Russian (although blacks think differently!) An example would be the situation, for example, if I am such a cool fighter that I can fight back more than one black, I according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, nationalism is sewn, if not just one, but the black crowd will beat Russian, it’s just beating or something else, but not nationalism! Now they say a lot that Russian has killers and rapists, but it just can’t not be in the family is not without a freak, we will fight with our freaks, why do we need strangers !? crimes of foreigners, it’s the same as if a guest comes to your house and chaos, vryatli you will react positively to this !?
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 11: 31 New
      -1
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      But why, blacks are never to blame, and the Russian is only to blame for being Russian (although blacks think differently!) An example would be the situation, for example, if I am such a cool fighter that I can fight back more than one black, I according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, nationalism is sewn, if not just one, and the black crowd will beat Russian, then this is just a beating or something else, but not nationalism!

      White men of the Caucasus are very annoying Russians)
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 24 October 2013 14: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Gooch v.2
        White men of the Caucasus are very annoying Russians)

        In the upper right corner are not white, but gray-blue. Apparently a new variety of whites. laughing
        1. Gooch v. 2
          Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Uncle
          In the upper right corner are not white, but gray-blue. Apparently a new variety of whites.

          Apparently a new variety of blue
        2. ed65b
          ed65b 24 October 2013 14: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Uncle
          Quote: Gooch v.2
          White men of the Caucasus are very annoying Russians)

          In the upper right corner are not white, but gray-blue. Apparently a new variety of whites. laughing

          These are peacocks.
      2. alone
        alone 24 October 2013 20: 08 New
        0
        The photo in the upper right corner has nothing to do with the Chechens. This is the special forces of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan.
  • poccinin
    poccinin 24 October 2013 11: 28 New
    +5
    It is high time to "WORK" in other countries. "Our friends" are ahead of the curve. The MOSSAD is not shy and they do not care who says what.
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 24 October 2013 11: 43 New
    +3
    2 days ago, I already wrote that the terrorist attacks taking place on the territory of the Russian Federation (with the exception of the Caucasus) are non-standard: most terrorist attacks around the world, like in the Caucasus, take place against government officials or persons who are somehow related by their professional duties to the state (in including in relation to persons engaged in ideological and religious activities)

    Below is a series of screenshots of the site "Caucasian Knot" with statistics of terrorist attacks committed suicide bombers in the Caucasus from the 09th to the 12th year:
    Terrorist attacks committed against representatives of the government, the state, ideologists and religious leaders are highlighted in blue.
    Terrorist attacks involving government officials are highlighted in green, and it is impossible to say unequivocally against whom they were preparing.
    Terrorist attacks directed against ordinary citizens are highlighted in red.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 24 October 2013 11: 44 New
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          Yarosvet 24 October 2013 11: 45 New
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              Yarosvet 24 October 2013 11: 46 New
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                Yarosvet 24 October 2013 11: 46 New
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    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 24 October 2013 11: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: Yarosvet
      most terrorist attacks around the world, as in the Caucasus, occur against government officials

      Again rave? What authorities did the Boston terrorist attack take? Attack on a school in Nigeria? The explosion in Karachi? Attack on shopping center in Kenya? An explosion at Burgas airport? Explosions in southern Thailand at a grocery store and hotel?

      Enough nonsense already, implicated in their own ignorance to broadcast.
      1. Gooch v. 2
        Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 12: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: Spade
        Again rave? What authorities did the Boston terrorist attack take? Attack on a school in Nigeria? The explosion in Karachi? Attack on shopping center in Kenya? An explosion at Burgas airport? Explosions in southern Thailand at a grocery store and hotel?

        Nairobi is a circus of pure water.
        Terorysty with telefonom not leave, nig.er policeman laughs


        the hostages are neighing


        the guy behind the car can finally not taste that they are being captured by the terrorists





        and this one doesn’t part with the phone, as I went for a walk


        again, all with the phones. Against the background of calmly standing people surrounding them, this handful of creeping people looks ridiculous.


        running away from terrorists is fun (we look at the second from the left)


        Corn! Boiled corn!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 24 October 2013 12: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Gooch v.2
          Nairobi is a circus of pure water.

          Well, you and ...
          1. Gooch v. 2
            Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 12: 16 New
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            Well, you and ...

            I know, I know, I also love and respect you.

            Good guys with a new bag for Domke's photo and video equipment were in such a hurry to pose that they didn't even remove the label. The uniform is home, the main thing is to fasten the armor and pick up the machine and that's it, now you are an ardent fighter with terrorism




            Kenyans themselves are probably awesome because they have an army, police and special forces, and even in such a huge number and variety of equipment. Moreover, judging by the photo, they received this equipment directly from the warehouses.


            The soldiers are clearly tired of "fighting" and simply lay down on the grass to rest a little from military affairs.


            All of them were bored of "fighting". Time goes by, the ostrich roast at home gets cold, and the reporters all run around and make you pose.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 24 October 2013 12: 25 New
              +2
              Listen, the bearer, you’ve gotten into situations like this to make fun of people. Do you, wise and far-sighted, know what terrorism is? Your parents called you after the next attack to find out if you are alive or not?
              And as soon as the earth wears such scum ...
              1. Gooch v. 2
                Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 12: 30 New
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                Listen, the bearer, you’ve gotten into situations like this to make fun of people. Do you, wise and far-sighted, know what terrorism is? Your parents called you after the next attack to find out if you are alive or not?
                And as soon as the earth wears such scum ...

                since when are you and me? I didn’t drink vodka with you at the Brudershaft; I didn’t go with the women with women. If you want to let out snot, it’s kind in a girl’s public
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 24 October 2013 12: 42 New
                  -3
                  And I don't talk to "you" with scum, rambo sofa.
                  1. Gooch v. 2
                    Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 12: 48 New
                    -8
                    Quote: Spade
                    And I don't talk to "you" with scum, rambo sofa.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 24 October 2013 12: 53 New
                      +2
                      N-yes ... Internet child. Where only parents look.
                      You know, but I had a suspicion. Not a single adult taunts such things.
                      1. Gooch v. 2
                        Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 05 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Spade
                        N-yes ... Internet child. Where only parents look.
                        You know, but I had a suspicion. Not a single adult taunts such things.

                        burst into tears.
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 24 New
                        0
                        By your filthy soul? Too late.
                      3. Gooch v. 2
                        Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 13: 31 New
                        0
                        Quote: Spade
                        By your filthy soul? Too late.

                        according to you, uncle, according to you
                2. smersh70
                  smersh70 24 October 2013 13: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Gooch v.2
                  And I don't talk to "you" with scum, rambo sofa.

                  where to find such laughing yesterday I searched for a long time - about - but why don’t you smoke, don’t want or don’t smoke ...... good tell me
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 24 October 2013 12: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: Spade
    Lopatov - Are you really that, or are you pretending to be? belay

    Why the heck did you list this hodgepodge to me? You could just as well list 4 of the Caucasian terrorist attacks highlighted by me in red, and make your highly intellectual conclusion on their basis.

    Well, give statistics on the last 30 terrorist attacks in the states, the last 30 in Nigeria, the last 30 in Pakistan, etc.

    If the percentage of acts against civilians turns out to be higher, I agree that I’m wrong, but don’t need to tell me about rubbish tearing isolated cases out of the context of events.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 24 October 2013 12: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Yarosvet
      If the percentage of acts against civilians turns out to be higher, I agree that it is wrong

      Bulgaria. The attack is one. Against civilians. USA. The attack is one. Against civilians.

      I'm waiting for a statement about your wrong.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 24 October 2013 12: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        I'm waiting for a statement about your wrong.

        Mdya - 1 attack is 100%, super ...

        Lopatov, I have long noticed that you are a masochist who likes to put himself with his unfounded statements in an extremely stupid position.

        You contact if that - everyone will have a reason to neigh, you will receive your share of thrills, but in the end everyone will be fine good
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 24 October 2013 12: 45 New
          +1
          Something I did not notice the facts from you. Well, let's try. USA. 2013. Tell me at least two terrorist acts against the authorities, so as not to be unfounded, and prove your wise statement that most of the attacks are carried out against representatives of the authorities.

          Quote: Yarosvet
          Lopatov, I have long noticed that you are a masochist who likes to put himself with his unfounded statements in an extremely stupid position.

          We will see who the masochist is when you answer me.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 24 October 2013 13: 03 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            USA. 2013. Tell me at least two terrorist attacks against the authorities
            Do not try to move out to the market, as you usually do:

            1 There are no statistics on the states - if you knew this, you would not even have spoken about the states.

            2 Those 2 terrorist attacks in the USA that everyone knows about, the same ones (including you - I’m sure of this) are attributed (and not without reason) to the actions of the US authorities.

            3 Statistics is a system, isolated cases cited by you as an example are not a system: in order to talk about a trend in a topic under discussion, you need at least 50 cases (I have them), I ask you at least 30, but you have them no.

            in order not to be unfounded, and to prove his wise statement that the majority of terrorist acts are carried out against government officials
            In order not to be unfounded above, I cited statistics saying that from the 09th to the 12th in the territory of the Caucasus terrorist attacks were directed more than 6 times less than against state and near-state structures.

            when will you answer me.
            I answered you a long time ago - it is you who are unable to answer me in terms of facts, not your own speculations.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 13 New
              0
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Do not try to move out to the market, as you usually do:

              I'm watching this right now.

              Quote: Yarosvet
              there are no statistics on the states - if you knew this, you wouldn’t even give a hint about the states.

              The states have powerful media and the Internet is even more powerful. I do not need statistics. I asked you to name at least two examples of terrorist attacks against government officials so that you could prove your statements. Happened? No, it seems.
              Masochism in action?

              Quote: Yarosvet
              Statistics is a system, isolated cases you cite as an example are not a system: in order to talk about a trend

              So give me the statistics for the US. Which, in your words, does not exist, but on the basis of which you conclude that "most of the terrorist attacks are carried out against representatives of the authorities."

              It seems that the non-commissioned officer widow is cutting herself in full force.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 24 October 2013 13: 36 New
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                I'm watching it right now
                So next to the monitor you have a mirror.

                Masochism in action?
                Frets - your own method: the Pentagon and the CIA branch in the WTC laughing

                So give me the statistics for the US. Which, in your words, does not exist, but at the same time on the basis of which you conclude that "most of the terrorist attacks are carried out against representatives of the authorities"
                No cutest: about states, Pakistan, etc. you started singing, and replacing concepts - here you are and give statistics on them.

                It seems that the non-commissioned officer widow is cutting herself in full force.
                True - you have already done this because you can’t confirm your own chatter with anything.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 24 October 2013 13: 44 New
                  0
                  Much has been written, but there is still no answer. Please provide at least two cases of terrorist acts in the United States against government in 2013 to support your point. No water, you just need to name them.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 24 October 2013 14: 43 New
                    0
                    Quote: Spade
                    Thickly troll - perhaps I will pinch you once more:

                    Yellow - Interfaith Carving
                    Blue - acts in relation to state structures and about
                    Red vs. Civil

                    Che you there about Karachi weaved? laughing
                  2. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 24 October 2013 15: 02 New
                    0
                    That is, about the two terrorist attacks in the USA I can’t wait for the information.

                    According to the picture: Are you a masochist?

                    Let's get to Pakistan. year 2013. The attack in the Christian church. The attack on the market in Quetta. Sunni mosque in Mingor. Market in Lahore. Market in Peshawar. Hotel in Kashmir.

                    You need to name at least seven terrorist attacks in Pakistan committed in 2013 against authorities.
                  3. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 24 October 2013 15: 26 New
                    0
                    Quote: Spade
                    You need to name at least seven terrorist attacks in Pakistan committed in 2013 against authorities.
                    Am I on an exam? laughing

                    Quote: Spade
                    That is, about the two terrorist attacks in the US I can’t wait for the information
                    Of course - information is missing.

                    According to the picture: Are you a masochist?
                    Well, what are you - you are the only one with us good

                    Let's get to Pakistan. year 2013. The attack in the Christian church. The attack on the market in Quetta. Sunni mosque in Mingor. Market in Lahore. Market in Peshawar. Hotel in Kashmir
                    All noted above.

                    You need to name at least seven terrorist attacks in Pakistan committed in 2013 against authorities.
                    I still expect statistics from you for the countries you have indicated - are you able to provide them, or are you only able to wag the language?
                  4. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 24 October 2013 15: 35 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    Am I on an exam?

                    No. You prove your thesis that in the world a greater number of terrorist attacks occur against the authorities. In the USA and Pakistan you are not able to prove it. Will we continue, will we try with another country?

                    Or immediately admit that this statement is based on your fantasies, not facts.


                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    I'm still waiting for statistics from you

                    Don't you have it? It’s strange. Then, on the basis of what are you making your statements? Out of a finger?
                  5. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 24 October 2013 17: 32 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Spade
                    There is no statistics on the states, and neither I nor you doubt the account at the expense of who exactly conducts them there.
                    In Pakistan proved - see above.

                    You should not try to catch me in words - on the 21st day you claimed that the majority (99.9%) of terrorist attacks were directed against citizens. This statement of yours completely refutes the statistics on Pakistan and the Caucasus - you caught yourself in words.

                    Try to include what you wear the hat on and think about why there is such a strange imbalance between the targets for terrorist attacks in the Caucasus and the rest of the Russian Federation.


                    PS I never received answers to questions about the number of terrorist attacks from 91 to 2000, and to whom and why terrorist attacks against civilians are beneficial.
                  6. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 24 October 2013 20: 26 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    In Pakistan proved - see above.

                    What have you proved? What can you take a screen from the Wikipedia page and from the bulldozer set a framework, defining the explosion in the hotel as "directed against the authorities?
                    I requested 7 terrorist attacks against Pakistani officials this year. Can you do it? No.


                    However, you are capable of sucking out thoughtful conclusions from your finger.
                  7. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 24 October 2013 22: 56 New
                    0
                    Quote: Spade
                    and from the bulldozer to instruct the framework, defining the explosion in the hotel as "directed against the authorities?
                    Go to the wiki - read the context of the marked.

                    I requested 7 terrorist attacks against Pakistani officials this year. Can you do it?
                    Firstly, you distort: ​​I am talking about representatives of the Government, politicians, ideologists, religious figures (also politics), officials, etc. An ordinary citizen is not connected either with politics or with the promotion of ideology, with religion on the table because - the crowd in the metro is not connected with anything, that is, it consists of ordinary citizens - this is an example.

                    Secondly:
                    1 pre-election rally "Awami" in Peshevar (17.04.13)
                    2 office of the politician in the suburb of Kohat (28.04.13/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                    3 assassination of Asif Ali Zardari in Pakistan (10.07.13/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                    4 Attacks on the police station and military base in Kashmir (26.04.13/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                    5 Terrorist attack at the headquarters of the Taliban, Orakzai district (03.10.13/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                    6 Bus explosion with government militias, Orakzai County (14.02.13/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                    7 Checkpoint in the province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (14.02.13/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                    8 Attack on the checkpoint in Lucky Marvat (02.02.13/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                    9 Explosions in Quetta (10.01.13/XNUMX/XNUMX)

                    Plus 3 political killings and a lot of religious slaughter.

                    Moreover, terrorist attacks aimed at a motley crowd with an interference fit can count as many as 3.
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 24 October 2013 11: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Gooch v. 2
    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    But why, blacks are never to blame, and the Russian is only to blame for being Russian (although blacks think differently!) An example would be the situation, for example, if I am such a cool fighter that I can fight back more than one black, I according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, nationalism is sewn, if not just one, and the black crowd will beat Russian, then this is just a beating or something else, but not nationalism!

    White men of the Caucasus are very annoying Russians)

    What's this? Photos of funny clown regiments ?! Dance better "real" men!
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 11: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      Quote: Gooch v. 2
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      But why, blacks are never to blame, and the Russian is only to blame for being Russian (although blacks think differently!) An example would be the situation, for example, if I am such a cool fighter that I can fight back more than one black, I according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, nationalism is sewn, if not just one, and the black crowd will beat Russian, then this is just a beating or something else, but not nationalism!

      White men of the Caucasus are very annoying Russians)

      What's this? Photos of funny clown regiments ?! Dance better "real" men!

      Nope, these are the military of Georgia, Azerbaijan and Ichkeria, but are you used to seeing drunken men and women drunk in the fountain with a jar of Yaga? Giving face mates? This is what I understand the idea!) And those people in the photo, not for this kind of dance, hold weapons in their hands.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 24 October 2013 14: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Gooch v.2
        Georgia, Azerbaijan and Ichkeria,

        Ichkeria? Where is it? laughing
        Quote: Gooch v.2
        not for this kind of dance, weapons are held in their hands.

        Google "Dagestan wedding", even the drunken vdvshiki don't have that much fun here. laughing
        1. Gooch v. 2
          Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 14: 57 New
          -2
          Quote: Uncle
          Ichkeria? Where is it?

          IN SHCHICHNYA

          Google "Dagestan wedding", even the drunken vdvshiki don't have that much fun here. laughing

          Anything differently more fun than to dash in a fountain being not sober in the trash, in soaked (you know what) pants, with a jar of yaga in an embrace with the same "military" in the middle of the city, shouting some slogans incomprehensible to anyone. Here, if people are swaggering, then in separate premises, without disturbing anyone.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 24 October 2013 15: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: Gooch v.2
            Here people, even if they are puffing around, are in separate rooms for this purpose without disturbing anyone.

            Could your martyrs perform their ritual actions also in specially designated places without disturbing anyone?
            1. Gooch v. 2
              Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 15: 14 New
              +3
              Quote: Uncle
              Could your martyrs perform their ritual actions also in specially designated places without disturbing anyone?

              The martyrs are not mine, they will not obey me. )
              1. Uncle
                Uncle 24 October 2013 15: 27 New
                +3
                Quote: Gooch v.2
                The martyrs are not mine, they will not obey me. )

                Credit smile
        2. antibanukurayza
          antibanukurayza 24 October 2013 16: 29 New
          +1
          This video is not a celebration, but a bunch of devil friends. A true Muslim strictly adheres to the instruction of the Qur'an. Vodka is forbidden! Murder is not rightfully forbidden! The killing of innocent people, even of a different faith or atheist, is a great sin. If anyone recognizes himself in this video, kill yourself against the wall with your head, for you are the shame of Islam, as are those from whose stupid, rash actions discredit Islam around the world.
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  • na76
    na76 24 October 2013 12: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Uhe
    Well, Russian will never become a Muslim.

    Unfortunately, it happens, and not just a Muslim, but a Wahhabi and others like them ... I’m personally familiar with 5 years old, a boy from a good family, parents are doctors, now he is sitting for trying to blow up a gas main, by the way it’s not an isolated case, here, for example, read :
    http://www.ng.ru/ng_religii/2010-09-01/4_jihad.html
  • Rinat 1
    Rinat 1 24 October 2013 12: 29 New
    +2
    terrorism has no nationality or faith
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 24 October 2013 14: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Rinat 1
      terrorism has no nationality or faith

      Faith, just has, unfortunately ...
      1. antibanukurayza
        antibanukurayza 24 October 2013 16: 21 New
        +2
        and what faith did the Japanese terrorists poison people in the subway with gas? or what faith does Breivik have? I am Muslim and that I am a terrorist?
        1. Gooch v. 2
          Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 16: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: antibanukuraza
          and what faith did the Japanese terrorists poison people in the subway with gas? or what faith does Breivik have? I am Muslim and that I am a terrorist?

          they all converted to Islam at the end
          1. antibanukurayza
            antibanukurayza 24 October 2013 16: 36 New
            0
            I am very sorry that you have a bad opinion of Islam. Believe that the true Islam is not the one that is shown by the so-called. "jihadists".
            1. Gooch v. 2
              Gooch v. 2 24 October 2013 16: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: antibanukuraza
              I am very sorry that you have a bad opinion of Islam. Believe that the true Islam is not the one that is shown by the so-called. "jihadists".

              do not think it wrong, sarcasm, irony no more, such as you respect, I have no complaints against Muslims, I myself have a positive attitude towards Islam, because of ethnicity is a representative of the Muslim people.
              1. antibanukurayza
                antibanukurayza 24 October 2013 16: 59 New
                +2
                In that case, accept my apologies, brother.
          2. alone
            alone 24 October 2013 20: 14 New
            +2
            The Irish Republican Army, are ETA Muslims? calling all terrorists exclusively Muslims, incite inter-religious conflicts.
  • pahom54
    pahom54 24 October 2013 13: 06 New
    -3
    Well, and we all swear at the fact that the FSB wants to establish control over the Internet .... I already said in the comments that it’s absolutely violet for me to follow what I’ve slid down a porn site a couple of times - let them wake up ... But if the control over the Internet will help the secret services to reveal various malicious acts in time, then the flag is in their hands. This control does not threaten law-abiding citizens ...
  • Djozz
    Djozz 24 October 2013 13: 24 New
    +3
    What does "common-law wife" mean, the substitution of concepts to hide the fornication and debauchery of acting and mass media pop music, this is LIVING. A marriage registered by the registry office, but not passed the wedding ceremony, is a civil marriage!
  • ed65b
    ed65b 24 October 2013 14: 40 New
    +1
    Yes, anything can be in life the ways of the Lord are inscrutable. Could passport and remain intact. I saw a video of an accident. A guy flew through the front window on the fly on the fly, his pants flew off and he broke the rear window of the car into which he hit, landed in the passenger compartment in the back seat in his underpants. Alive!
  • Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 24 October 2013 14: 53 New
    +3
    In general, this is a terrorist attack. The country itself is a place of detonation: the bus is on the move in the most laid-back route and not the most important city in Russia. Judging by the TV, the terrorist wandered in a shopping center, and then decided to take a bus ride. But it is known that for terror it is important not how many killed, but the very fact of terror from the terrorist attack. And here? Tell the authorities now that this gas bottle exploded and everyone would have believed that if there had been no DVR in the car, there would have been nothing clear at all. Usually explode in crowded places, in big cities, but not like in a remote highway.
    And the suicide bomber raises many questions. And her passports with photo and photo on the Internet. The girl lived for herself, wore very frivolous blouses, short-sleeved shirts, tight jeans, dyed her hair several times in red color and the blonde (probably for a hijab) cheerfully used makeup and then bang-fuck - changed into a hijab and decided to undermine to the glory of Allah. And the version immediately rolled out that she was terminally ill. Moreover, all this on TV at the level of rumors is gossip without any confirmation.
  • antibanukurayza
    antibanukurayza 24 October 2013 15: 59 New
    +1
    Here's what social networks say:

    Another setup ??? ....

    Azamat Mintsaev
    There are more and more questions regarding the terrorist attack in Volgograd, I give you information that flies up quickly over the Internet, several links will be lower.
    GOING TO THE TERRORIST ACT - PASSPORT DO NOT FORGET!

    Yesterday we were informed that a passport of the alleged suicide bomber was found at the scene of the tragedy and circulated (Photo 1) in all media.

    Many users started asking questions:

    “Some kind of mess with the passport of the Dagestani suicide bomber, miraculously survived without a single spot,” says Daria Mitina in LiveJournal. “Firstly, they write about her that she converted to Islam relatively recently, and a passport with a photo in a hijab already in 2008 Secondly, we cannot wear a hijab for a passport. The rules stipulate that you cannot hide the oval of the face, but here it is exactly what is hidden, some eyes stick out. Suppose, even if the passport service gave her such a bashli, it doesn't matter this is before the first cop - the passport is invalid. Moreover, in 2008 they could not be issued in this form, then it was even tougher than now, it was with this. It is strange that the Koran was not found at the site of the explosion, as in those planes, otherwise quite bad manners would be ... "

    "1. But still I don't understand: is the photo in color or black and white? If it is in color, then when was the passport issued?"
    2. I alone see that a woman’s photo lies on top of someone’s passport, covering her own photo?
    3. In Russia, you can take pictures, wrapped up like this? But what about the order of 2003, allowing the presentation of photographs in hats, but not hiding the oval of the face?
    4. In Dagestan, passports were issued, on the seals of which were the following combinations of numbers:
    051-001, from 052-001 to 052-053 and from 053-001 to 053-009. If the second group of digits is 022 (there cannot be clearly visible 622), then the first group is uniquely 052. In the first group of digits can you read 052?
    5. As far as I remember, the first letter of the name should be strictly under the first letter of the middle name, and the seal should be black.

    I don't understand anything about this, so I just ask, as asked: "What are" coffee stains "brushes for Photoshop and how do they relate to the laminated page of the passport?"

    Today, the FSB did work on errors and prepared a passport for demonstration on the first channel (Photo 2)
  • Luga
    Luga 24 October 2013 18: 02 New
    +7
    There is too little reliable information to make any reasonable assumptions. In fact, we only have a recording from the video recorder, everything else pops up through the media and does not deserve one hundred percent trust.
    And first of all, this concerns information about Sokolov and Asiyalova, their relations. No one has yet proved to me that Sokolov has anything to do with the explosion. The man disappeared and there is no reliable information about him for more than a year.
    Genetic examination of the remains of a terrorist carried out? Are its results made public? While there are no results, it makes no sense to talk about Asiyalova as a performer.

    Personally, I ask myself a different question. Why, in the sense of "for what purpose?" When explosions occur there in the Caucasus, I understand - they settle scores, blood feud, etc. What do they want to achieve here? And even after Biryulyovo? The only possible answer is government tightening the screws. And here comes the thought ... Strengthening the control of law enforcement agencies over social networks, e-mail, etc. When was this question raised last?
    Minus what already there ...
  • voliador
    voliador 24 October 2013 18: 42 New
    0
    Why be surprised if a guy, albeit from a more or less prosperous family, looking at how all sorts of "new Russians" are fattening, went off the rails? Until it is as Vysotsky said in "The meeting place cannot be changed": "A thief must be in jail!", While officials with a salary of 25-30 thousand will drive around in Bentleys and Porsches and build 3-storey mansions, such people will not become less!
  • Vladimir.z.
    Vladimir.z. 24 October 2013 19: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: Russian
    the best detectives are here, comments write. And mediocrity in the organs serve and komenty do not read ...


    Do not be offended .... as they say, being determines consciousness ... how we live and write, but you will agree if the opera would sit less in offices, and work more in the "field", then our being would be safer and the opera nowadays, for the most part they are "sons" and "close relatives" recruited for a good salary ...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 October 2013 19: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir.z.
      the opera would sit in offices less, and work more in the "field" then our being would be safer

      When did this opera sit in the cabinets? Opera feet are fed. And as for the sons, you are right, now only these remain. The normal ones either drank themselves or grunted already, people with a conscience could not do otherwise.
    2. 7958
      7958 25 October 2013 00: 51 New
      +1
      And where in Russia there are so many sons to gather close relatives, and probably in Moscow, but excuse me Moscow is not all of Russia. - Wake the day you are in the shoes of the police, your life will seem the other way around ......... V.S. Vysotsky.
  • valton
    valton 24 October 2013 20: 27 New
    0
    Quote: Uncle
    an ideological war is going on against Russia, they are throwing mud on our values, imposing their own. We can’t be taken by arms, so they decided to simply rot. And the influx of Muslims is part of the ideological struggle with Russia. I believe that only by realizing that we are Russians, that we are Christians, we can resist the expansion of Western values.


    Absolutely agree !!!
  • Bosk
    Bosk 24 October 2013 21: 15 New
    +1
    Some services need to understand, terrorism must be fought, not Borotz. Because the purpose of the terrorist is the civilian population ... therefore they are illegal and must be destroyed, for those who believe that it is not humane, I recall that the civilian population is our children, our mothers and fathers.
  • Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 24 October 2013 23: 26 New
    +5
    You know, I’ll say that maybe I’m wrong, but against the background of difficulties in the economy with such and such oil production, we must look for the image of the enemy.
    By the way. I looked about the report on medical assistant-obstetric centers in Primorye on RTR and unexpectedly found out that there is a medical assistant’s salary for our 1500 hryvnias. This is the same or even less than in Ukraine. But in Ukraine there is no oil. So how so ???
  • Ols76
    Ols76 25 October 2013 04: 36 New
    +2
    The guys in the special services need to reduce the number of stars on uniform!
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 25 October 2013 08: 58 New
      -1
      It is better to add a ray to each - let them openly serve with the Magendavids.
      Now they are choosing symbols for the army - it’s the time for the army to give the traditional Russian form, and for the special services - the American one with Zionist insignia and clarity of worldview will immediately come.
  • xoma58
    xoma58 25 October 2013 09: 02 New
    +1
    Everything that is happening in the country is very similar to creating and maintaining the image of the enemy. On the way, it seems, the next anti-people’s actions or laws. And most likely both. Once again, our Russian bourgeoisie wants to tighten the screws on the people.
  • ydjin
    ydjin 25 October 2013 10: 25 New
    -1
    Yes, it seems like the truth we will never know!
  • ko88
    ko88 25 October 2013 16: 22 New
    0
    complete mess in the country! authorities do not know what to do with the Caucasus! chaos in the Caucasus, Dagestan on a powder keg, they don’t convey anything according to the media, but in fact there are regular skirmishes between different nationalities, Wahhabism is spread throughout the whole Caucasus. I meet a lot of Muslim Russians in the south of Russia, the Stavropol Territory Rostov region, etc.
  • Technologist
    Technologist 25 October 2013 20: 43 New
    0
    What can I say, look at the photo in your passport, try to take a picture somewhere in Omsk, Tomsk, or Kemerovo, yeah, now. And there it’s normal !!! So why are they acting like that ??
    Although soon in the above cities it will be so. Because BABLO SOLVES EVERYTHING !!! And it will help (I do not call for genocide, there are normal people among them) - MOCHILOVO kov. And when they understand that the guests (guests, not the hosts), maybe something will change. IMHO.
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 25 October 2013 20: 55 New
    -1
    Quote: Gooch v. 2
    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    Quote: Gooch v. 2
    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    But why, blacks are never to blame, and the Russian is only to blame for being Russian (although blacks think differently!) An example would be the situation, for example, if I am such a cool fighter that I can fight back more than one black, I according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, nationalism is sewn, if not just one, and the black crowd will beat Russian, then this is just a beating or something else, but not nationalism!

    White men of the Caucasus are very annoying Russians)

    What's this? Photos of funny clown regiments ?! Dance better "real" men!

    Nope, these are the military of Georgia, Azerbaijan and Ichkeria, but are you used to seeing drunken men and women drunk in the fountain with a jar of Yaga? Giving face mates? This is what I understand the idea!) And those people in the photo, not for this kind of dance, hold weapons in their hands.

    And it’s not these drunken landing parties that unwound the stinking Georgians so that they fled without looking back with their Amer instructors! You hell, men only in words, but in real jackals who do not rush at a more powerful enemy!
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 27 October 2013 08: 22 New
      0
      And didn’t the drunk landings from the 6th company hutab could not throw off the mountain with superior forces !? You hell, men only in words, but in real jackals who do not rush at a more powerful enemy!



      Continue to continue? unwinder?
      What a mountain? What landing? You watched it in a thunderstorm gate on telly chtoli?
      The loudly proclaimed feat of 84 paratroopers, who stopped the breakthrough from the Argun Gorge of two thousand (!!!) militants under the command of Khattab, was simply not there. This feat was first born on March 4 on the pages of the Pskov newspaper. There it was written about Khattab, about two thousand fighters and about how the company fell, causing fire from howitzers on itself. In the future, the number of militants only increased.

      Apparently, the correspondent of the newspaper simply did not know that there could not be a detachment of two thousand militants. Such a detachment will have nothing to eat, and it will be noticeable. This is the specificity of guerrilla fights, that the groups of militants rarely exceeded one hundred people, and sometimes there were fifteen, and ten - this is quite enough for a sudden ambush and instant withdrawal. And as soon as the mythical "detachment of 2 thousand people" disappears, then everything else disappears. And the story that the militants "broke into the plain": the partisans do not need to break through the checkpoint. It is much easier to get around. And the story that the paratroopers "destroyed over 700 fighters." And, of course, the story that paratroopers, having fought for three days, caused fire on themselves is worthless. Hit them with howitzers! The howitzer with its hinged trajectory hits 15-20 km. That is, it means: Russian troops were 20 km away and could not come to the rescue for three days?

      Alas, this was a crime for which command must be judged, and not a feat for which it is necessary to reward the dead.
  • Gooch v. 2
    Gooch v. 2 27 October 2013 08: 23 New
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    And it’s not these drunken landing parties that unwound the smelly Georgians so that they fled without looking back with their Amer instructors !?







    Brilliantly unwound, thank you "nigger" Chechens, in particular the special group "East" that actually have taken the whole outcome of the war, who knows how many more Georgians shot down the aircraft and killed soldiers. If we proceed from the numerical strength and capabilities of the armies of Georgia and the Russian Federation, then winning the outcome of the war with such losses as Russia suffered is rather a complete failure than a victory, Israel, having no numerical superiority in relation to the Arabs, does not bear practically any losses.
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    Prapor Afonya 28 October 2013 12: 47 New
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    And it’s not these drunken landing parties that unwound the smelly Georgians so that they fled without looking back with their Amer instructors !?







    Brilliantly unwound, thank you "nigger" Chechens, in particular the special group "East" that actually have taken the whole outcome of the war, who knows how many more Georgians shot down the aircraft and killed soldiers. If we proceed from the numerical strength and capabilities of the armies of Georgia and the Russian Federation, then winning the outcome of the war with such losses as Russia suffered is rather a complete failure than a victory, Israel, having no numerical superiority in relation to the Arabs, does not bear practically any losses.

    I understood everything, you’re not just a h ... but a supporter of your own, you are a Wahhabi, you should have been found and destroyed for a long time, I just don’t understand what you are doing on a patriotic Russian site? You will never understand the heroism of a Russian soldier, because you .... born to him and die, and review your 96 Wahhabi skies dated back to XNUMX and rejoice, there is nothing left for you to do, I will not prove anything to you and argue with you , because I believe that the enemy should be destroyed, not talk to him, and you are my enemy !!!
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 6 November 2013 05: 03 New
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      I understood everything, you’re not just a h ... but a supporter of your own, you are a Wahhabi, you should have been found and destroyed for a long time, I just don’t understand what you are doing on a patriotic Russian site? You will never understand the heroism of a Russian soldier, because you .... born to him and die, and review your 96 Wahhabi skies dated back to XNUMX and rejoice, there is nothing left for you to do, I will not prove anything to you and argue with you , because I believe that the enemy should be destroyed, not talk to him, and you are my enemy !!!

      Your conceptual apparatus has severely misled you, I simply state the facts and say it as I am, I am an atheist and I deeply care about Wahhabism, jihadism, Jesus, Allahs and Buddhas. You will not prove anything, because there is nothing to prove, there is a fact, and this fact is incontrovertible.
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      Gooch v. 2 6 November 2013 08: 36 New
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      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      Do not talk with him, and you are my enemy !!!