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How in Moscow slaughtered "Muslim Communist", or Migrant Detective

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A very resonant incident occurred last week immediately after the mass demonstrations in Biryulyovo. True, here it is necessary to express more precisely: the event is not confirmed, but is vividly described. Biryulyovskiy background, apparently, was so vivid that information about the new incident on the same ground began to manifest itself only a few days after the bloody incident. Or it’s not at all in the Biryuli background, but in an attempt to use it for other purposes. But first things first.


October 15 of this year around 8 hours of the evening a young man (ethnic Chechen) in bus number XXUMX returned after celebrating the Muslim holiday Kurban Bayram from Nemchinovka near Moscow to the capital. (According to several publications at once, a young man, whose name is Andi Muslimov, is a graduate of one of Moscow universities - a university with a monumental name - Academic International Institute). At this moment, the driver of the Tajik Ali Muhammad was driving a taxi, and one of the passengers didn’t speak out about the nationality and appearance of the bus.

It should immediately be noted here that the course of events has become known from the words of Muslimov himself and the said driver of the Moscow minibus No. XXUMX. As far as these data correspond to reality, the result should show. Yes, and each reader has his own conclusions, based on the testimony provided.

For now let us return to the description of the events of October evening by Andi Muslimov and Ali Muhammad.

After the passenger allowed herself to insult the driver of the minibus in a rough racist form, Andi Muslim stood up for him in a peculiar form, telling the girl the following:

What are you, a girl, so beautiful, and so ugly swear?


The girl, again, according to the testimonies of the people mentioned, seemed to have calmed down, and the incident was settled. However, at some point, Muslim pulled out his mobile phone and began to talk with someone in the Chechen language with it, the shuttle bus approached the Klochkova Street stop. As soon as the vehicle reached the stop, one of the passengers snatched a knife out of his pocket and hit Andi Muslimov in the neck (which is remarkable, just behind). The bus stopped, Muslim, bleeding profusely, tried to defend itself against new knife blows from an accidental fellow traveler, who, with the words "Die, bitch!" Tried, what is called, to finish off a young Chechen. New stabbed, according to testimony of the victim provoked the girl, who was close to the very man who wielded cold weapons. It was she who at the moment began to shout out the words:

Look, this brute is still alive! Kill him in the heart!


The taxi passenger began to run out in horror into the street, and so, apparently, they ran away far and fast, so far, for some reason, not a single witness of the incident, except for the Tajik driver and Muslim himself, is being talked about.

Further developments, if you believe the mentioned witness, turns into some kind of phantasmagoric action movie. Andi Muslimov with several knife wounds (neck injury and several stab wounds on his arm) also left the taxi bus, but it turns out, not at all to hide from the attacker, but with a view to catch the criminal. Continuing to follow the testimony, we get a picture in which the attacker for some reason began to run away from the severely wounded Chechen, who after him "walked" along Moscow street about 200 meters, while he (the Chechen) was bleeding from his mouth (reads as an example) ), and on the run, he lost consciousness.

What did the driver of the bus at that moment, история he is silent, but then it becomes known that a taxi car driven by an Azerbaijani drove by. On the nationalities of the "actors", as you can see, the testimony especially focuses attention. It was he who, notably, from the whole stream, stopped near Andi Muslimov, who was lying on the asphalt, helped him and caused the DPS outfit. And in the 'original text' testimony says, "asked the traffic police to drive to the scene." The phrase “asked to drive up” in this context looks as if DPS officers of the city of Moscow are approaching anywhere in the city “at the request” of taxi drivers from the Caucasian republics. And maybe this is already the case? ..

Further, the story twists even more seriously. In it the driver of a fixed-route taxi again “pops up”, which, it turns out, he didn’t do anything anyway, but at that moment he tried to stop the traffic police car passing by. What exactly such attempts were expressed is not clear, but the witness claims that the PPS-nicks did not react to his actions. Considering the fact that only a bloody man was lying in 200 meters from the empty minibus, the behavior of the PPS-nick looks very blasphemous. Well, or the testimony of Mr. Muhammad Ali is far from reality ...

How in Moscow slaughtered "Muslim Communist", or Migrant Detective

Andi Muslimov


This event does not end there. Andy Muslimov was taken to the intensive care unit 71-th Hospital, where he underwent surgery. It would seem that everything is fine, it remains for the doctors to bring the treatment to its logical conclusion, and at this time the police will find the criminals to show the effectiveness of the operational actions carried out in Moscow. But the testimony now says that in less than two days Muslim, quote: "kicked out of the hospital." And they kicked out, as Muslimov himself and his relatives say, on the initiative of the head of the department, Alexander Platonov, and the deputy head doctor, Hrachya Yagubyan, without explaining the reasons. But after trying to find out the reasons for this “express treatment”, the doctors called the police ...


Hrachya Yagubyan (Deputy Head Doctor for instrumental methods for diagnostics of the 71 Clinical Hospital in Moscow)


Well, further, the same testimony suggests that literally from everywhere Muslimov and his relatives “fooled”, did not start, did not want to watch outdoor surveillance cameras near the bus stop, did not punish the doctors and at the same time the prosecutor’s police did nothing workers did not pay any attention. Even in the representation of the Czech Republic in Moscow, victim, quote: "rebuffed". Only October 21 - 6 days after the attack - a statement of the attack was registered. Moreover, after the quotation: “they still called the local police officer Kashaev and recommended him to open a criminal case”. Some were “asked”, another was “recommended” ...


Vladimir Kashaev - Senior District Commissioner


To analyze such information is, as they say, not a field to switch. There was a place for everyone here: a graduate of a Moscow “international academic” university, a Chechen, a Tajik driver, an Azerbaijani taxi driver, an Armenian doctor. As they say, everything is mixed up ... In Moscow ... It is noteworthy that this story was literally taken away on social networks with the main aim that the majority of visitors (from the south) in Moscow are peaceful and cultural people, and you know, Muscovites themselves go to the public transport with knives, infidels of the Gentiles and cut them in the throat “from ear to ear”, then “vile” Armenian doctors refuse to properly treat the injured Muslims and literally take them off from hospital beds ...
No, of course, the victim is worth supporting - as they say, it got so that the enemy does not wish. But some kind of too Hollywood story, which, moreover, suspiciously looks like an attempt to show: they say that there is some kind of murder of Yegor Shcherbakov - look better at "their own" nationalists, racists and other xenophobes - cut in Moscow from all in sight.

There are enough nationalists of all stripes in our country, but immediately there is clearly a bust. Bust with a combination of intolerant Muscovite and a polite young man from Chechnya, with an unexpected “Die, bitch”! ”, With a bloody guy with a blood-thirsty bloodstream from the mouth and throat who caught up with the attacker, busting with doctors by the fascists, "busting with the fact that" relatives came, and the clinic staff called the police, "busting with a Tajik driver who" caught "PPP nicknames, and those his calls, and bleeding young Chechens lying on the cold asphalt ignore

On the page of the victim, by the way, writes that he is now in the hospital, but will soon return. At the same time, the page of a graduate of a Moscow university in the life position section contains interesting information. Andi claims that his worldview is Islam, and his political preferences are communist. If it's not banter, the combination of a Muslim Communist appears in the story as well as, in principle, and the story itself ...

We look forward to continuing, if at all ...

PS To clarify the information provided by the victim and his relatives, the Military Review publication sent a request to the 71 Hospital of Moscow. Readers will be informed promptly of the answer.
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  1. Zhenya
    Zhenya 24 October 2013 07: 59 New
    38
    I hate when Caucasians speak their languages, maybe they send you? How do I know? They have nothing to do here and will not cut. We have many Russians who need our help.
    And to make up such ridiculous stories less, in cars and in the steppe, deprivation of citizenship and a ban on entry into Russia.
    1. Alex_T
      Alex_T 24 October 2013 09: 02 New
      24
      Chechnya is a part of Russia, and a lot of blood has been shed for this. And how do you propose to prohibit Russian citizens from moving around the territory of their country? By the way, Dagestan, Ingushetia is also part of Russia. Can the Tatars, in your presence, speak Tatar? I understand that the Caucasians have gotten a lot, but it is not business to show your "courage" by attacking from behind.
      1. Mr. Gambu4aS
        Mr. Gambu4aS 24 October 2013 09: 09 New
        23
        Ahha, if you believe this nonsense, then you probably also believe in Santa Claus !?
        1. Lolocat
          Lolocat 24 October 2013 09: 51 New
          29
          Yeah, tell me that he is not there. To whom then do I write letters to Uglich every year? )))
          1. pv1005
            pv1005 24 October 2013 10: 16 New
            34
            It is in Uglich that it is not. He is in the great Ustyug.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 24 October 2013 14: 23 New
          +9
          Santa Claus is a symbol of Russian. so don’t touch. you can drink kaku-cola with your santa.
        3. Army1
          Army1 24 October 2013 16: 26 New
          14
          Why is this all on the military review site? Tired of already, I understand the problem with migrants, but under some slogans, some can benefit from this problem. The government does not control who lets in, who is it, terrorists, janitors? Yes, and in Biryulyovo, I doubt that a grandmother and granddaughter and other adults came to smash a store and beat illegal immigrants. All this is beneficial to others, just a problem with migrants like oil on fire. But do not think that I am defending the position of the government on this issue, they are trying to crush us like the union in due time. One thing is not clear when Putin will understand this?
          Here was another interesting infa that Mongolia will become part of the Russian Federation as an autonomous republic from 2014, and guest workers will be able to find work there, i.e. they will be sent there, I don’t know the truth or not, but there was no refutation. And a serious war is going on against us, the main thing is not to help the enemy.
        4. DAOSS
          DAOSS 24 October 2013 16: 41 New
          +2
          The investigation established that Raffik was highly non-finnish! And we sent him to compulsory treatment in Monte Carlo.
          wassat
      2. loisop
        loisop 24 October 2013 09: 34 New
        +8
        Yes, it's not even a "part of Russia". Let's say the French. Can they be with each other, in our presence, standing in the middle of Red Square, balak on their Volapyk?
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 24 October 2013 11: 04 New
          +1
          Let them indulge, does not cause antagonism. I understand what you mean.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 24 October 2013 09: 50 New
        +7
        Quote: Alex_T
        I understand that the Caucasians have gotten a lot, but it is not business to show your "courage" by attacking from behind.

        Another nonsense of a liberal sense. Do you always believe in what you read? Then I can advise you Tolkien. I especially liked the phrase girls
        Look, this brute is still alive! Kill him in the heart!
        1. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 24 October 2013 10: 11 New
          +2
          say the article is completely crap written without involving the brain, to attract attention to the author, and not to a very complex problem.
          1. Jin
            Jin 24 October 2013 13: 14 New
            17
            Quote: nov_tech.vrn
            let's say the article is completely crap written without involving the brain, to attract attention to the author,


            The article is just about the fact that the author is trying to connect the unconnected, i.e. that nonsense that the relatives of the "terpily" and he himself have spoken! As a type of poor "faithful Masulman" they are scared and slaughtered at every corner!

            And how the dude and I grappled in the subway in two such "faithful" because of garbage in fact! Do you know what I discovered then? He poked me with a knife with a knife! I had cigarettes in my pocket, and so, breaking through the winter jacket, he pierced the pack, but not through and through the truth ... Of course, he didn't try hard, but the fact itself !!! I take out a cigarette, and it hangs on the filter, looking at the pack, the slit ... it was then that I realized what was what and ... it became very uncomfortable to put it mildly (((
            1. cdrt
              cdrt 24 October 2013 18: 08 New
              +6
              Quote: Jin
              Of course, I did not try hard, but the fact itself !!! I take out a cigarette, and it hangs on the filter, looking at the packet, a slot ... and then I realized what was happening and ... to put it mildly, it became uncomfortable (((


              Hence the moral - all civilians buy injuries.
              And if they allow it, then the short barrel ...
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 24 October 2013 20: 10 New
                +1
                Quote: cdrt
                Hence the moral - all civilians buy injuries.
                And if they allow it, then the short barrel ...


                don't trifle wassat take a PC or MG-42 .... good
                1. bilgesez
                  bilgesez 24 October 2013 22: 38 New
                  +5
                  With a settlement period of 10 years, give all Kalashnikov assault rifles to all indigenous people of Russia
              2. Jin
                Jin 24 October 2013 21: 46 New
                0
                Quote: cdrt
                Hence the moral - all civilians buy injuries.
                And if they allow it, then the short barrel ...


                I agree, agree, agree ... and so three hundred times sad Because this lawlessness cannot be curbed by our laws. And so he would have slammed him, quietly, without trial or investigation, the call would be different (((
              3. poquello
                poquello 24 October 2013 23: 59 New
                +1
                Quote: cdrt
                Quote: Jin
                Of course, I did not try hard, but the fact itself !!! I take out a cigarette, and it hangs on the filter, looking at the packet, a slot ... and then I realized what was happening and ... to put it mildly, it became uncomfortable (((


                Hence the moral - all civilians buy injuries.
                And if they allow it, then the short barrel ...

                Wrong morality, inattentively read. You need to buy chain mail from the ass of the dragon, because the Chuchmeks do not wave with a knife, but poke, and try to do it unnoticed, which I confirm and why the Russian looks strange in the minibus with the Chuchmek's habits.
        2. Skiff-2
          Skiff-2 24 October 2013 15: 43 New
          +5
          Quote: Ingvar 72

          Another nonsense of a liberal sense. Do you always believe in what you read? Then I can advise you Tolkien. I especially liked the phrase girls
          Look, this brute is still alive! Kill him in the heart!

          I will not be surprised if this whole story turns out to be an ordinary stuffing, the purpose of which is clear even to a schoolchild, I think they will also need to be ready for this ... and I think it is not designed for Russians - we can see her donkey ears without prompts, but " brothers "Muslims can start, so you need a quick and effective investigation with the arrest and punishment of all those responsible, and first of all the authors of this stuffing.
      4. Lesnik
        Lesnik 24 October 2013 09: 53 New
        10
        That is, you, dear, believe that this fact, and precisely in such an interpretation, took place to be? It's ridiculous! All the facts presented in this article are twisted beyond recognition. I assume that there was a conflict precisely on household grounds and not between a Slav and a Chechen, but between a Chechen and a Tajik, and everything else is an attempt to hush up the conflict and evade responsibility
        although I may be wrong and therefore I ask - witness testimony so to speak "in the studio"
      5. domokl
        domokl 24 October 2013 09: 56 New
        +9
        It is clear that the beautiful words of the relatives are largely fictitious for the press. But there was a fact of the attack! And in the absence of witnesses (they ran away, as the author reports), it is necessary to thoroughly check all the testimonies of both the victim and the driver.
        I won’t even talk about the hospital. The only thing that can force doctors to discharge a patient is not following the rules of staying in the hospital. Or, more simply, a disregard for the requirements of the medical staff.
        I don’t dare to draw conclusions. It’s just that the information is too contradictory. You need to understand it. And given the resonance in the press, the investigation should be as transparent as possible ...
      6. Field
        Field 24 October 2013 10: 31 New
        +6
        Yes "circus" is am Incite discord, wolves in sheep's skins. "Black" - "White" and vice versa.
      7. APES
        APES 24 October 2013 12: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Alex_T
        And how do you propose to prohibit Russian citizens from moving through the territory of their country?

        everything is simple - return the institute of registration
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 24 October 2013 13: 35 New
          +3
          Can immediately serfdom Institute?
      8. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 24 October 2013 13: 50 New
        +1
        I believe that Chechnya is not a part of Russia, but its cancerous tumor. By the way, do they really attack the forehead? So, I didn’t fight with the Caucasians. And if it’s the forehead, then 3-10 for one.
      9. vvi84
        vvi84 24 October 2013 14: 47 New
        +4
        Such "parts" of Russia are necessary as appendicitis ...!
        Caucasians show their courage in children and peaceful citizens, or when with a whole flock for one ... and so that you sow ... everything is right!
      10. cdrt
        cdrt 24 October 2013 18: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Alex_T
        I understand that the Caucasians have gotten a lot, but it is not business to show your "courage" by attacking from behind.


        Yes, a muddy story ...
        Although ... Muslim Communists were massively. Half of the Arab terrorists supported by the USSR at one time were just that. For some, this also somehow coexisted with Arab nationalism. What is already thoughtfulness repeat

        Although...
        I have not seen a single peaceful Chechen in Moscow.
        We are different, well, completely different.
        Although what to do is unclear ...
        Separate - destroy the empire built by the blood of their ancestors, leave - will move to European Russia, which is not ready for their aggressiveness ...
      11. predator.3
        predator.3 24 October 2013 20: 43 New
        +3
        But some kind of a too Hollywood story, which, moreover, suspiciously looks like an attempt to show: they say that there is some kind of murder of Yegor Shcherbakov — look better at “your own” nationalists, racists and other xenophobes - they cut everyone visiting in Moscow in sight.


        Well, sit at home, in your mountains, and do not roam around Russia!
      12. Kolya
        Kolya 25 October 2013 06: 37 New
        +1
        This story is more like a fairy tale as opposed to the anger of the Russian people.
        "Look, this brute is still alive! Kill him in the heart!" - and this phrase was clearly invented with a Central Asian understanding of the turns of the Russian language. A Russian would never put it that way!
    2. diver1977
      diver1977 24 October 2013 09: 12 New
      +4
      Either I understand what tone, or correct me. The Russian Federation is not a mononational state, is it? And immigrants from the Caucasus like citizens of Russia? And talking in a foreign language is annoying precisely Caucasian.
      Russia conquered the Caucasus all the way, fought for its presence in the Russian Empire. Local can not be redone, what there are. So what to blame now? Either tear off the entire Caucasus - then you can stupidly close the borders and deport everyone - or you will have to play with the cards that came ...
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 24 October 2013 09: 26 New
        37
        Fundamentally not true! You definitely have either - or. It's not about the language itself and what and how they tell. It's just that the people have a strong feeling that when they speak their own language, it means that they do not want the Russians to understand what they are (and this is how it is), without exception, everyone knows Russian! This time. Our dzhashiks have a new feature, so they are walking down the street in a crowd, they see a Russian guy and they are pointing a finger at you so that you can see and say "groin" so that you hear. what is it? Are they really childish pranks? This is a provocation. With all their looks, they show that they are the owners and we don't belong here. I am responsible for my words, and this is the true truth, I watched it myself, they didn’t fight a little, they felled.
        Now how should I relate to them ?! I am constantly watching this. And if they cannot restrain their youth, then what is it all about? It’s interesting, but the parents of these animals did not live in the USSR ?! And the law is not the same for everyone !! In any case, I will be to blame for the conflict with them. At least what will they do! Passed already! The benefit of dating so far! Again, how do I feel about them? A lot of questions, really?
        And yes, Russia is a multinational state. But why should they be privileged on the basis of nationality and the Russians adapt to them because they are original and we should be tolerant? There are rules of conduct! We have a secular state! See yourself decently and no one will say a word! Fuh is boiling ... And all these talk of tolerance ... And yes, the driver works in our office - Tatrin is already almost retired, so only after two years I learned that he is a Tatar))) And even that Camille is called attention did not pay)))))))
      2. hrych
        hrych 24 October 2013 12: 26 New
        +8
        You are mistaken, it’s not a big problem to redo the local ones, you just need to comply with the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and whoever doesn’t comply, there are educational measures — a fine, a special detention center, a zone, for a bullet that is especially desperate for dzhigits.
    3. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 09: 20 New
      +8
      Quote: Marrying
      I hate

      Eh Zhenya Zhenya is like a man, but you’re talking about all the babble ... and the key word is hate ...
      Quote: Marrying
      speak their own languages, maybe they send you?

      You see how you are set to negative ... yes you surrendered to them ... that they have no other business than to discuss with your bile?
      1. 528Obrp
        528Obrp 24 October 2013 12: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: Marrying
        I hate when Caucasians speak their languages, maybe they send you? How do I know?

        This is colex. Fear. I agree with Ali-Gurg. You have already lost Zhenya.
        1. 528Obrp
          528Obrp 24 October 2013 12: 30 New
          +4
          The less you fear the dogs, the less they bite. Frightened by a domestic flock - they will devour.
      2. Zhenya
        Zhenya 24 October 2013 14: 45 New
        +2
        Ali-gurg
        1. Yes, hatred is not babble — it is a healthy view of millions of emigrants who spit on values, rape and kill. They spit in my tongue, have the audacity to walk in hijabs, from which it generally turns me on, etc., etc. The survival of my Slavic Orthodox nation in current realities.
        2. I understand you, as a representative of Central Asia, that bad Russians spit on their fascism, but fascism was born out of nowhere and healthy fascism (priority of the nation, priority of faith, priorities of Russians) is normal, but now everything is pouring out into Nazism and even women of 40-50 years old, whose grandfathers fought against this, shout the same slogans for all this is not enough, and it just reached the limit. The Russian rebellion is terrible - the authorities know this, but everyone plays with the people, and then they won’t ask, they will just wash the bridge guests with blood with the blood of the capital.
        1. Syrdon
          Syrdon 24 October 2013 17: 45 New
          0
          ziggled again while writing?
          1. Zhenya
            Zhenya 24 October 2013 18: 08 New
            +3
            Syrdon Excuse me, how many education classes do you have? You don’t even understand what I mean.
        2. Babon
          Babon 24 October 2013 19: 05 New
          +2
          The survival of my Slavic Orthodox nation in current realities.

          How many prayers do you know? When was the last time I held a post? How often do you go to the temple? Are you going on a pilgrimage?
      3. cdrt
        cdrt 24 October 2013 18: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Ali-Gurg
        and hate is the key word


        And even more interesting, what causes hatred is unconscious fear (well, you can read it in any psychology textbook)
    4. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 09: 21 New
      -2
      Quote: Marrying
      And to make up such ridiculous stories less, in cars and in the steppe, deprivation of citizenship and a ban on entry into Russia.

      Well, who would you decide the fate of nations? God? King? Who! Or did you delegate yourself as Ali Taziev by such powers?
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 24 October 2013 09: 32 New
        +3
        And a person, in principle, cannot effectively manage a person. So that...
      2. anip
        anip 24 October 2013 09: 57 New
        25
        Quote: Ali-Gurg
        Well, who would you decide the fate of nations? God? King? Who! Or did you delegate yourself as Ali Taziev by such powers?

        And who are Muslim terrorists, killers, who is Asiyalova, and who is Shcherbakov’s killer? Are they gods-kings-allahs? Who gave them the right to kill people? Who delegated them to this? Unlike those killers, Zhenya does not offer to kill all Asians and Caucasians, he simply offers send everyone to their historical homeland (not even to the New Earth). Do you catch the difference or not?
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 24 October 2013 10: 04 New
          +2
          I agree! Nothing to add!
        2. Ali-gurg
          Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 10: 06 New
          -4
          Quote: anip
          Who gave them the right to kill people? Who delegated them to this?

          Can you read? But for people like you, the example of Ali Taziev (Magas) is given, no one has the right to it if Vanya hasn’t reached you, neither Ali nor Gunther have the right to do this ... understand? no?

          Quote: anip
          Unlike those murderers, Zhenya does not offer to kill all Asians and Caucasians, he simply offers to send everyone to their historical homeland.

          And since when did this steppe (the Kazakh people where Grandfather Stalin once sent the peoples of the Caucasus) become the historical homeland of Caucasians? And you didn’t read by chance how once already such an expulsion ended for thousands of people? no? apparently really not ... because the Chukchi is not a reader, he is a writer;)
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 24 October 2013 10: 28 New
            +6
            It all ended with the return in 1957 of "grandfathers" Khrushchev to the original territory of these peoples. How do we remember?
          2. IGS
            IGS 24 October 2013 10: 51 New
            12
            And why did he send them there? Yes, and Stalin didn’t seem to be particularly Russian either laughing . Maybe you’ll write a fairy tale like the one in the article where Muslims: Tajik (minibus driver), Azerbaijani (taxi driver), are interesting, but they are legally here and work, the Chechen (Academic International Institute, and why not all-planet and all-star) are white and fluffy, and Christians (Russians and Armenians (doctor)) well, just PPC.
            Answer me honestly to the question why did Stalin send them there?
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 24 October 2013 11: 49 New
              -3
              Quote: IGS
              and Christians (Russians and Armenians (doctor))

              Well, that would help ... but they didn’t help ....... the position of the Armenian doctor is surprising --- after all, though you are also a Christian, you are Caucasian ... in appearance, as they say black ..... .on he didn’t help ... next time in the entrance or in the minibus he will be determined by appearance ....... laughing and that will say that he is a Christian ... so Georgians are also Christians, but how much dirt you pour on them))))) .... it's not a matter of nat.ti or religiosity, business humanity ..... in love for the neighbor ....
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 24 October 2013 11: 56 New
                11
                Only to you then because of your love for your neighbor also a knife is stuck, we know we swam. The kindness of the Russians is ALWAYS regarded as weakness. As soon as we lose patience and breaks out, then at once everyone starts talking about friendship, kindness and love.
                1. de_monSher
                  de_monSher 24 October 2013 13: 10 New
                  +4
                  . Russian kindness is ALWAYS regarded as weakness


                  In my opinion, there is one type of kindness - human kindness. Other types, subspecies and types of kindnessI personally do not know. Kindness is human value, and dividing it into Russian, Chechen, or Burkina Fasos there is to put it mildly, and-d-and-o-t-and-z-m. The Nazis over there, in Nazi Germany, burned, hung, killed thousands of people. And I won’t be surprised if, at the same time, their eyes and thoughts were kind, kind ...

                  The story told in the article, I agree, is drawn to a bad detective. But, you, the author of the article, act here as a writer, moreover, a bit of a science fiction writer, and not as a journalist - you added your rubbish to history. With a subtext, something like this - "Look, look, Russian Brothers, Slavs! What a hell of a thing! A Tajik, a" victim "Chechen = by the way, a citizen of your Country =, an Azerbaijani taxi driver, drove a barrel at us, Christian, damn it ! ". To what extent are you, I wonder, agree with such "implications"?

                  Farther. What surprises you in the concept of "Muslim communist"? My Father, a combat officer. He was a Communist, remained a Communist - despite the fact that the Communist Party is formally banned in Uzbekistan. He fought in northern and southern Africa, in the Far East. At the same time, he did not cease to be a Muslim. And friends in arms, in military service, come to him from all over the former Soviet Union. Again they wanted to sketch with a nice word, so, perhaps, "author"?

                  Further, in Tajikistan, he himself saw a chopped man = the right side was cut through almost to the middle of the sternum =, which itself went almost half a kilometer, and then was still alive for about an hour. Unfortunately, it did not work to save him ...

                  The author, with all due respect, I am submitting your material, I do not understand... Think with your head first, before heating up something ...

                  Like that...
                  1. klimpopov
                    klimpopov 24 October 2013 13: 38 New
                    +3
                    I did not share in MISCELLANEOUS kindness. It was just that my father (commie, military) always kindled me, kindness, honor, and so on. Otherwise, this article walks on the Internet and its goals are quite specific.
                    1. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 24 October 2013 13: 57 New
                      +6
                      I did not share in MISCELLANEOUS kindness.


                      Excuse me, I didn't "run into" you, honestly. Just for you personally, if you are Russian, Honor and Respect can be the words of my Father, Uzbek - "I am proud that I am an officer of the Soviet, Russian army. Since the main advantage of a Russian person is his Honesty and Kindness." When you, reduce the talk about the dignity of your Nation to "get-together", it looks like gossip of grandmothers on the rubble. You can estimate anything, by and large, only bybut not from within.

                      And yet, Russia was and is an Empire. She has an Imperial past, whatever one may say, an Imperial present, and God grant - an Imperial future. But Empires are built only by strong people. If you are weakened, including having slid to idiotic chauvinism and nationalism - consider everything is lost. There, the Greeks, only myths and are associated with the Greeks. But what kind of Empire was built in due time ...

                      That's something like this ...
                      1. klimpopov
                        klimpopov 24 October 2013 14: 11 New
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                        The question of Russians was not raised by Russians ... It turned out (suddenly) that WE (Russians) oppress everyone and are not worthy at all, and so on. And then it started. Now we have to defend ourselves. And chauvinism and nationalism as you do not twist there is a defensive reaction as well. But the generation has grown up where the brain is washed and they do not think that they are not proud of the past of their country. The question is who were their parents. For when communicating directly, everyone is proud and respected, in fact ...
                      2. de_monSher
                        de_monSher 24 October 2013 14: 38 New
                        +6
                        The question of Russians is not Russians raised ...


                        ANY Nation has, so to speak, the "Basis" of the nation - up to 90 percent, and radicals - 10 percent, even less. In troubled times, the voices of radicals are loudest. It's just that the times are like this, the "base" is busy stupidly - survival - it is necessary to save relatives, loved ones, friends, etc. etc. from troubles and hardships. And in such troubled times - the freedom of radicals is complete. They shout what they want, do what they want. So ...

                        It turned out (suddenly) that WE (Russians) oppress everyone and are not worthy at all, and so on.


                        ... this phrase, believe me, is delusional. The average Uzbek has never said such a thing and will not say it. On the contrary, Uzbekistan, for example, tried to SAVE to the very last opportunity, what, in theory, is necessary for you, the Russians — a community, albeit in a new form, but a single space on the territory of the USSR. Look at least for the dates of declaration of independence - June 12, 1990, Russia, and September 1, 1991 - Uzbekistan.

                        Do not substitute concepts, honestly. Honesty pays off. As an Uzbek, I am quite satisfied with the honest confession of many of your nationalists - "We didn't fucking need the Outskirts, we got rid of them." This is historical. And so it was - three heads of Slavic states gathered and individually made the decision that they made. Everything else is speculation.

                        Now, for you, residents of Russia, the next point of decision-making has come. If you want to "get rid of the Outskirts" and further, what is the flag of your hands. You are the masters of your country. Just for me, brought up in the Imperial tradition, it's like a sickle to my heart. But this, I repeat, is your choice ...

                        PS: By the way, you did not pay attention to what pronouncing some comrades write the normal Russian word - Caucasus? "Kaukaz" like, right? With such amerovsky pronoun. Jars as much. In the face with a U-turn, I want this to call in ... well ...
                      3. klimpopov
                        klimpopov 24 October 2013 15: 04 New
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                        Now, for you, residents of Russia, the next point of decision-making has come. If you want to "get rid of the Outskirts" and further, what is the flag of your hands. You are the masters of your country. Just for me, brought up in the Imperial tradition, it's like a sickle to my heart. But this, I repeat, is your choice ...

                        Believe me, this is an absolute minority. Time. Just those 10 percent or even less.
                        as it was, the three heads of Slavic states gathered and single-handedly accepted the decision that they made. Everything else is speculation.

                        An absolute minority wanted the collapse of the Union. In fact, it was not legal (collapse). Dvas
                        Now, for you, the residents of Russia, the next decision point has come

                        Moscow (well, the average resident of Moscow is "indigenous", by the way, people in the Volga region also sincerely do not understand why Russia needs the Caucasus, believe me) will say "that we do not need" kaukauk "(by the way, this is a purely local (SK)" pronons "just picked it up) about the rest of the Russians, very few people think. Tris
                        ... this phrase, believe me, is delusional.

                        Have you been to Tallinn? Riga? Lithuania? Lvov? National republics on the territory of Russia? By the way, "scattered" sincerely for the power (well, how else do they give money) and against the Russians (as it is). And did you communicate with young people (new) in Ukraine, grown up on new textbooks? Four
                        By the way, my neighbors (Russians) have actually fled from Tajikistan. Other acquaintances from Chechnya, when the events began there, my aunt from Cherkessk, well, did not run away, but came and said "sell now while you can." So are we Russians choosing to get rid of the outskirts or not?

                        And by the way, even you feel some accusatory notes (read Russian Slavs).
                        The union was necessary for everyone, but not for everyone it was obvious ... Now it is obvious to everyone but there is no turning back. It will not work to rewind, many points of no return have been passed, the task is to try to save what is.

                        Something like this...

                        And to the cries of "why should we kaukaz" - well, these are provocateurs or just limited people who think only today, only now, their main goal is to eat and sleep. I am kategorical in this, I think so.

                        Finally, "every nation is worthy of its rulers" ... I will put an ellipsis ...
                      4. Lesnik
                        Lesnik 24 October 2013 15: 25 New
                        +5
                        Oh wei Fima ... I beg you .... not everything is so tragic laughing
                      5. klimpopov
                        klimpopov 24 October 2013 15: 41 New
                        +1
                        I want to believe. But it’s better to prepare for the worst.
                    2. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 24 October 2013 15: 37 New
                      +5
                      And by the way, even you feel some accusatory notes (read Russian Slavs).


                      You saw something that really isn’t - just take my word for it. I repeat - my education is purely Imperial. I grew up, all over the Union, so to speak, all in distant garrisons. He was born, for example, and completely in Germany. You accepted mine горечь = and I have a right to it, agree = for the "accusatory" notes. How can I accuse you when my beloved "uncles" who took the most direct in my upbringing and formation as a person, all of them are often Russians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis - officers of that old Army? Excuse me, you can't remake me - all these events, with a national motive, are damn unpleasant for me. Damn ...

                      Have you been to Tallinn? Riga? Lithuania? Lviv?


                      He lived in Lviv - spent two years 2011-12 on expeditions in the Chernobyl region, not in the field - but mainly worked as a brain, at a computer. So I chose Lviv. Soon I’ll go there again. But the question is for you. What do you want from the territory on which there was no Soviet power, formally until the 54th and nominally, until the 60s? Yes, they have their own mentality. But even there, 70 percent of the population is nostalgic for the Union. And believe me, I am a very sociable person, and I like to draw people out to talk. Only once a half-fool jumped at me. On May 9, I was walking home with a laptop to which a Lion cub with a St. George ribbon was hung - a gift from the children of my Petersburg friends. What a goner in general, began to pull a rake, trying to rip off this lion cub. I explained to him that I would quickly unscrew his rake and screw him in the ass. You know, I understood, even though I spoke in purely Russian ...

                      So, such things ...
                    3. klimpopov
                      klimpopov 24 October 2013 15: 43 New
                      +2
                      PDA I have been to Nikolaev a lot. So, of course, there is no wild hatred, but when you start to communicate directly, hatred for the Union comes through (I'm talking about youth).
                    4. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 24 October 2013 15: 50 New
                      +1
                      you start to communicate directly through hatred of the Union (I'm talking about youth).


                      I don't even know what to say. Maybe all the same, the Russian-Ukrainian grater affects here? Let me explain - for example, we have an Uzbek-Kazakh grater. Like a pancake, Kazakhs and I are nowhere close. But Shas, for example - someone "Marek Rozny", brother Kazakh, will comment on the "Sarts" = he is us, Uzbeks, that is what they call us =, I immediately = just believe, right away! = I will take a fighting stance, and we will start with him, Uzbek-Kazakh srach. It will be funny for me myself, but I can't do anything about it, damn it ... *))

                      So - maybe they spoke out against you, because you, excuse me, = censorship does not pass the word - "m-o-s-k-a-l-b", damn =? AND? Have you ever thought about it?
                    5. klimpopov
                      klimpopov 24 October 2013 16: 00 New
                      0
                      Thought))) but I'm not a mos.kal for them, I'm a k.tsap. This is not just growing into a "grater", it is already becoming an actively promoted policy of the state. At the same time, they are not particularly concerned with the Belarusians, why?
                      No, deeper and deeper at the same time. Life and everyday life.
                    6. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 24 October 2013 16: 15 New
                      +5
                      Belarus, this is finally a unique phenomenon ... *) I remembered the case ...

                      I once worked in the "field", for a couple of months, and my health sharply worsened - my eyesight fell, my head ached constantly ... in general, the men escorted me out, "go, don't be heroic. We need your brains, here we can handle it ourselves. " Once I have time, I’ll see how I Belarus - especially since my grandfather is buried there. In Pinsk, at the station, he lost consciousness. I wake up - hospital, neat. A woman sits by the bed, very pleasant. By type - "good morning". We talked. She says, "We have few Asians like you. Rare." And then the doctor comes in. And I almost rolled under the bed with laughter - a Korean from Tashkent. We got treatment for several days, I walked around the city - a neat, clean town. The people are awesomely calm and friendly. Only the rhythm of life, of course, does not go off scale as in St. Petersburg or Moscow, of course. But this is probably a plus ...
                    7. klimpopov
                      klimpopov 24 October 2013 16: 20 New
                      +5
                      I often visit Minsk (the uncle lives there). All right. I have only positive impressions of this country. People with a unique character.
                      Minsk is the capital. And in Belarus everything is just as you said.
                    8. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 24 October 2013 16: 25 New
                      +3
                      I love Minsk ... I love it very much. A city with a pure soul. It's nice to wander through it and just talk to him ...
                    9. klimpopov
                      klimpopov 24 October 2013 16: 55 New
                      0
                      Trinity Suburb, Nemiga, yes. Most of all in my youth, then, the World War II museum struck me. Grandiose.
                    10. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 24 October 2013 17: 28 New
                      +1
                      When I get to Minsk, I mainly stop in Zhodino. I generally like it to be calmer. And so I just come to Minsk, take a walk ... *)

                      As for the museum, I agree, it's good. But since childhood, "Murmansk Alyosha" has sunk into my soul ... This is a monument to the war - magnificent ...
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 24 October 2013 17: 05 New
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              Quote: klimpopov
              At the same time, Belarusians aren’t especially graters, why?

              and this is due to the fact that Belarusians have no hostility towards other nations in their families .. children from an early age are taught about history, about how other nationalities defended their lands .... about the war .... about tolerance .... about friendship ..... they drink a little ... everyone works .... more precisely, they make fun ... it doesn’t matter for visitors ..... unlike Moscow and St. Petersburg, where mostly protective citizens gathered ... everyone is away. ..there is no one to teach children ... here and the young people hang out in bars .... in discos ... in bulk ... and they also learned to go to football .. and there the fans .. after the games they go to beat someone ..forward, they beat the Spartacists, for example, and now come on migrants ...
            3. IGS
              IGS 25 October 2013 07: 38 New
              +3
              unlike Moscow and St. Petersburg, where mostly protective citizens gathered ... everyone on trips ... there is no one to teach children ... here and the youth hang out in bars .... in discos ... in bulk .... and we learned to go to football again .. and there the fans ... after the games they go to beat someone ... they beat the Spartacists before, for example, and now let's get the migrants ...
              The delirium of a man who did not live in Moscow and has seen enough TV. In Kandapoga, in Pugachev, are they also “tired” of going to football?
              and this is due to the fact that Belarusians have no hostility towards other nations in their families .. children from an early age are taught about history
              First of all, they have no hatred for Russia. They do not distort history, and do not try to blame their failures on it, they have no sense of inferiority due to unmet ambitions, unlike others.
  • bilgesez
    bilgesez 24 October 2013 22: 50 New
    +1
    That's right, apart from the kindness of Russian other kindness, there is only PR and the purchase of indulgences. Today I learned why Muslims give alms. In the next world, this money will be returned to them - it’s as if they are making investments for themselves. That is their kindness.
  • smersh70
    smersh70 24 October 2013 16: 57 New
    0
    Quote: klimpopov
    Russian kindness is ALWAYS regarded as weakness

    here's another batch of kindness ....
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 24 October 2013 17: 45 New
      +2
      smersh70 Good evening smersh hi . Remember what I wrote to you in the letter? And you did not agree with me. The police often do not intervene. No.
    2. rolik
      rolik 24 October 2013 17: 46 New
      +7
      Quote: smersh70
      here is another portion of kindness ...

      Well, what I want to say to this ... is pre-op. And when the valve breaks with superheated steam, it will be even worse. And no police, riot police, will help. The Russian man is terrified with an ax in his hand, and the temperature is steadily rising and rising. Biryulyovo will appear as flowers in front of the upcoming berries. And then the talk of the authorities about the nationalist track will be meaningless. The power itself makes the people nationalists, and the visitors who are accustomed to come to a foreign monastery with their own charter.
    3. Misantrop
      Misantrop 24 October 2013 17: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: smersh70
      here's another batch of kindness ....
      Are the Slavs ALWAYS so aggressive? Type a national feature? Oh, I'm not sure ... Or does this patience end with the venality of the authorities and the top of the security forces? So this is still only the youth of the beginning of the lynching, her patience always ends at the first. And what will happen when patience bursts among those older?
      1. Zhenya
        Zhenya 24 October 2013 17: 58 New
        +2
        Misantrop Then there will be no point of return.
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 24 October 2013 18: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Marrying
          Then there will be no point of return.
          Then IMHO instead points return will begin band alienation. Broad and bloody to the limit ... sad
      2. de_monSher
        de_monSher 24 October 2013 18: 11 New
        +6
        Are the Slavs ALWAYS so aggressive?


        It is not nations that can be aggressive, but people. When people show aggression based on ethnicity, this is already the point of no return. Literally - Dead line. Moreover, you are ready to justify such behavior of people, only because they are of your nationality, this in itself is a trend ... = shrugged =. If you now, like a spoiled child, nod to me and say "they were the first to start this. Caucasians are ... Caucasians," I will have nothing to say to you - except that you are right, of course. Simply you will have YOUR OWN true, and with this truth you will live in your WORLD. And another world for you will no longer exist.

        But this is how you differ from those people who will suffer the DESERVED punishment from you = since you are ready to justify such behavior, that means you may one day be in the lynching crowd =, I don’t know. I’m not talking about those people who will suffer from you and your kind, UNdeserved.

        However, these are all lyrics and philosophy. Didline - there he is. Just don’t think that I’m trying to justify baits and freaks = yes, there are a lot of them =, which, unfortunately for us, turned out to be Caucasians or Central Asians.
        1. Zhenya
          Zhenya 24 October 2013 18: 19 New
          +2
          de_monSher Bravo! A very balanced point of view and is the place to be.
          One question, do you think the point of no return has already been passed?
        2. de_monSher
          de_monSher 24 October 2013 18: 35 New
          +6
          I'm afraid that yes, but I would like to be mistaken. I'd like to be mistaken. Signs of a point of no return:

          1. Segregation from the national plane has already grown into religious. Alas, this is a stronger unifying basis than the national one.

          2. Temporary alliances are formed, this article is an indicator - "We are Christians, they are Muslims." At the same time, it is a no-brainer that after the "cleansing" on this basis, segregation will go further. Watch the Nazi videos where Russian-Armenian relations, for example, are savoring.

          3. All this against the background of complete indifference to each other. In St. Petersburg, this winter, for about half an hour I was sitting with a Russian girl, who plopped in a slippery place and hit her head hard. He called an ambulance, and just sat there - trying to bring to his senses - people walked by, and everyone did not care.

          .

          Eh ... If you try to add items to my hmmmm ... "analysis" - please, I will be only glad.
        3. de_monSher
          de_monSher 24 October 2013 18: 49 New
          +4
          It just turns out that this - that's ALL - "nationalist" actions, nothing more than socialization, damn it. Rather, it is an attempt to assert one's Ego, by each separately taken subject participating in this action. At the same time, I do not make a difference between a Caucasian, Russian or Central Asian entity, which in such a way show their brutality. Perhaps I can add - unlike you, sorry ...

          That's something like this ...
        4. Kir
          Kir 24 October 2013 18: 58 New
          +2
          It would only be worth adding that these manifestations are skillfully manipulated by subjects who do not have a nationality, and there are only two gods, Power and Money, and politics and history only serve them. So it’s necessary if with someone it’s more accurate to fight with something, it’s with puppeteers.
        5. de_monSher
          de_monSher 24 October 2013 19: 02 New
          +3
          It’s worth adding that these manifestations are skillfully manipulated by subjects who do not have a nationality


          Yes, of course. It’s just that they asked me to do an analysis, but did not ask for conclusions. Let everyone draw conclusions himself ...
        6. Kir
          Kir 24 October 2013 19: 20 New
          +3
          It’s just already tired of me that after some provocateurs and all kinds of defenders who arrived in time, almost immediately nationalists and so on, albeit nationalism, or rather its degeneration in what it was manifested in the face of Nazi Germany, we also say the world owes to the same puppeteers as they say they will pervert everything that they touch.
      3. de_monSher
        de_monSher 24 October 2013 19: 27 New
        +1
        Wuhu ... and, nevertheless, taking into account the point of my analysis about the fact that these speeches socialize individual people, I wonder what kind of society they are preparing for all of us in the NEAR FUTURE?
      4. Kir
        Kir 24 October 2013 20: 02 New
        +1
        Yes, most likely a semblance of the United States at the initial stage (although now they have not really gone from the "roots"), sectarians and all sorts of different things, the fact that almost the main thing is mobility, and retraining under the demand of the "market", forgive me, but how- the same strong families and qualified personnel, oh yes, the main benefactors are the owners of life give us jobs, yeah they already believed, that's why they need migrants, and tend to move more often unfortunately or fortunately, as they say, the restless and those who are a lot about their opinions are the "best" contingent in the world. build with them. Yes, just now?
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 24 October 2013 19: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: de_monSher
    You are ready to justify such behavior of people only because they are of your nationality
    I look so much like a lawyer that you already gave me the full alignment of the diagnosis? belay

    I am merely stating the fact that if the authorities, in the unbridled pursuit of enrichment, do not stop the protection of all scum, then this outrage in the subway will seem like a childish prank in peacetime. Because the patience of the people is not unlimited and its resource is almost exhausted.

    And the most disgusting thing is that it is ALWAYS covered SUCH Filth, which place is not even in any zone. In Moscow these are Caucasians, in the Crimea - Tatars. Moreover, emphasize, by no means peaceful and normal people. Scum who twist their financial scams in silence and darkness. But their children, accustomed to TOTAL impunity and permissiveness, just provoke their peers to such "actions of retaliation." Under which, alas, most often random people fall ... request

    Why did he write a little higher about the bloody strip of exclusion, which could for many decades divide the peoples who previously lived peacefully in the neighborhood ...
  • smersh70
    smersh70 24 October 2013 20: 02 New
    -1
    Quote: Misantrop
    In Moscow these are Caucasians, in the Crimea - Tatars.

    at the beginning of the 2 century, Jews were to blame for all troubles)) now Caucasians)))) .... are you often looking for any enemies, spies, wreckers, terrorists ... or maybe you can look at the world with wide eyes .....
    Quote: Misantrop
    in the Crimea - Tatars. P

    and Crimea with it)))) or he also enters into Russia ... laughing
  • klimpopov
    klimpopov 24 October 2013 20: 13 New
    +1
    at the beginning of the 2 century, Jews were to blame for all troubles)) now Caucasians)))) .... are you often looking for any enemies, spies, wreckers, terrorists ... or maybe you can look at the world with wide eyes .....

    The Caucasian question is acute for centuries of commercials from the XVIII. Tatars, by the way, are now growing up according to the Wahhabi scenario. And there will be another focus of the Caucasus Emirate or something else.
    or he also enters Russia ...

    No need for mazos, not that topic ...
    enemies, spies, pests, terrorists ...

    We are looking for very little, practically not looking, if we were looking for real enemies and spies, then believe Russia would now flourish. And so the dominance by you of those listed nullifies all undertakings.
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 24 October 2013 20: 18 New
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    Quote: smersh70
    at the beginning of the 2 century, Jews were to blame for all troubles)) now Caucasians)))) .... are you often looking for any enemies, spies, wreckers, terrorists ... or maybe you can look at the world with wide eyes .....
    So you seem to have looked. As always - at the top. Why delve into the essence of the post, if you can catch on an uncomfortable phrase lol Jews, by the way, have not gone anywhere, only their children usually behave smarter than themselves, only occasionally they are highlighted. Although in the same Crimea no matter how the resonant accident with a bunch of corpses comes up, the main defendants will definitely be ... an SBU officer with a peculiar name and a dad-banker ...
    Here we have already come to the conclusion that shadowy bigwigs and corrupt power agents are, as it were, not to do with it at all, ordinary socialization. Not an attempt by impatient youth to ALMOST SOMETHING to change something in the surrounding lawlessness (not knowing any causes or consequences, but simply reacting in the simplest way to irritants) ...
    Quote: de_monSher
    It just turns out that this - that's ALL - "nationalist" actions, nothing more than socialization, damn it. Rather, it is an attempt to assert one's Ego, by each separately taken subject participating in this action.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 25 October 2013 01: 51 New
    0
    Quote: smersh70
    at the beginning of the 2nd century, Jews were to blame for all troubles)) now Caucasians)))) .... are you often looking for all kinds of enemies, spies, wreckers, terrorists ..

    For many, it’s easier to blame your mistakes and failures on someone than to admit your ...
  • de_monSher
    de_monSher 24 October 2013 23: 07 New
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    I look so much like a lawyer that you already gave me the full alignment of the diagnosis?


    This is when I told you, my friend, I made a diagnosis? belay Am I a doctor?

    It's just that I, just like you, try to analyze. And so that you do not accuse me of INJUSTICE and one-sidedness, I can tell you that everything that relates to Russia, in the same way can be attributed to Uzbekistan, and to Kazakhstan, and to any other country of the former USSR. The main trend is indifference. Business comes first. And Uzbek, for a sweet soul, will sell his kindred into slavery both in Kazakhstan and in Russia, and the Russian Russian, torture trying to take away the business = at the beginning of this year he helped his acquaintance, the Russian, who got into a tight binding in the Moscow region, practically fell into slavery to For the Russians, for two months he kept an eye on him so that he would not get into the loop =. So the concept "We are Muslims - a community, strength", as well as "We are Christians - a community, strength" is an empty phrase for me. And even more so "Russians, forward!", Or "Uzbeklar, olga!" etc. etc., it causes a wry, wary grin in me. Here we will "run" to this very, "forward" and? What's next? Let's find one more ahead? Let's start cutting by eye color, hair color, shape of fingers, toes?

    Like that...
  • smersh70
    smersh70 24 October 2013 19: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: Misantrop
    So this is still only the youth of the beginning of the lynching,

    Well, this can happen in the metro when most visitors to the metro are locals ... maybe migrants opened a vegetable warehouse there smile young people need to be educated .... but there seems to be no one to educate ..... everyone has gone to earn money .. smile
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 24 October 2013 20: 14 New
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      I agree - youth must be educated! And if you do not restrain anyone?
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 24 October 2013 20: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: klimpopov
      And if you do not restrain anyone?


      like anyone .. there is Kolokoltsev and his helicopter squadron wassat if it’s serious - the state ... and the government ... you have to go to the polls and cast your vote to the one who will do this business ....
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 24 October 2013 20: 28 New
    +4
    Quote: smersh70
    what can happen in the metro when most visitors to the metro are locals ..
    Have you been in the subway for a long time? But in Moscow, where in other local schools, not a single Russian-speaking child is already in the whole class?
  • smersh70
    smersh70 24 October 2013 20: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Misantrop
    Have you been in the subway for a long time?

    for the last time 16, in the Baku metro smile we thank God this is not observed, we have more tolerance hi and by the way, the majority in the carriage spoke Russian, including me))) we had something like this when the Chinese appeared, (I even went nuts once, when in 2006 I went to the post and one Chinese with knick-knacks was walking towards me asked to buy a flashlight, right on the front line))) I told him that right now I'll send it to the enemy, and he laughs and shows that he will sell there)))))) but we quickly sent them home)))))
    Quote: Misantrop
    other local schools already in the whole class not a single Russian-speaking child comes across?

    but you turned down .. there is a certain percentage, but not the same .. by the way, but what's bad, After all, at school they taught Russian history and language !!!!
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 October 2013 20: 53 New
    +2
    go nuts ... Then everyone writes that the Caucasians are all armed go, well, it’s not surprising. I personally never carried knives or trunks with me, but the next time I will go to the capital I will definitely take something with me so that I would not be completely defenseless in such a batch.
    PS Yes, here they often write about the fact that Caucasians crowd beat someone, well ...
  • Gari
    Gari 24 October 2013 12: 23 New
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    Quote: smersh70
    the position of the Armenian doctor is surprising --- you, too, though you are a Christian, but a Caucasian.

    Well, just as there is an Armenian in the article you are right there, I would be surprised
    . And Muslimov and his relatives himself kicked out, on the initiative of the head of the department, Alexander Platonov and deputy chief doctor Hrachya Yagubyan, without explanation.
    The article focuses on the doctor Yagubyan, and what if he really doesn’t know if anybody in any hospital or medical institution has a boss and, in general, everything and a Chief Doctor, how could they decide without him, and indeed no one canceled the oath Hippocrates
    Once again, a minibus driver “pops up” in it, who, it turns out, wasn’t doing anything at all, but at that moment he was trying to stop the PPS car passing by. What exactly such attempts were expressed in is not clear, but the witness claims that the PPS nicknames did not react to his actions in any way.
    PPS -niks did not respond and calmly drove past a Tajik?
    with a knife wound, he “walked” along a Moscow street for about 200 meters, while his blood (from a Chechen) was pouring from his mouth
    and what is the phrase of the girl -
    It was she who at the moment began to shout out the words:
    Look, this brute is still alive! Kill him in the heart!
    movie in Hollywood and only
    complete nonsense and provocation, as all that is written
    aimed at inciting religious hatred
    between Chechen Muslims, Tajiks, Azerbaijanis, and with other Russian Christians and Armenians.
    We must not succumb to provocations
    Russia is strong in that it was, is and will be multinational, but at the head of the Russian people.
    1. Volodin
      24 October 2013 12: 44 New
      11
      The article focuses on the doctor Yagubyan

      The article focuses on the delusional testimony of "witnesses" and nothing else.
      1. old man54
        old man54 24 October 2013 13: 32 New
        +5
        Quote: Volodin
        The article focuses on the delusional testimony of "witnesses" and nothing else.

        good hi
      2. alone
        alone 24 October 2013 20: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Volodin
        The article focuses on the delusional testimony of "witnesses" and nothing else.


        I’ll leave aside the delusional evidence. Is the murder of an Uzbek and an Azerbaijani after a birulea too nonsense? why the killers were not found? why sobr, riot police, prosecutors inactive? calling one nonsense, name what happened to these two innocent people who were killed only because they were non-Russian nationals. when these killers are found and they are also brought to the minister, then I’ll agree with you and I will say that these testimonies are nonsense 100%. Unfortunately, I must admit the fact that Nazi organizations are flourishing in Russia, and no one is fighting this phenomenon. Not for this, my grandfather died in Smolensk during the war, so that today's generation would wear a swastika and zigzag at meetings.
    2. Army1
      Army1 24 October 2013 16: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: Gari
      Russia is strong in that it was, is and will be multinational, but at the head of the Russian people

      Gold words! And who needs to be killed is corrupt officials, cops, etc., who are for the envelope .....
      The law must be valid! Under Stalin, well, you understand ....
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 24 October 2013 16: 56 New
        +2
        but at the head of the Russian

        I would say the united Russian people.
        The law must be valid! Under Stalin, well, you understand ....

        Everyone understands this, who thinks sensibly.
    3. smersh70
      smersh70 24 October 2013 20: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Gari
      I just have an Armenian in the article, you’re right there, I would be surprised


      so he had to fulfill his medical duties .. the question would not be for me smile
      Quote: Gari
      doctor Yagubyan, and


      besides his surname is Turkic .. he would have made no sense at least of his ancestors))))
  • cdrt
    cdrt 24 October 2013 18: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: smersh70
    . It is not a matter of nationality or of religiosity, business of humanity ..... in love for one's neighbor.


    Well ... and in the rejection of the direct action of the Hippocratic Oath in the Russian Federation ...
    ... Whatever house I enter, only for the good of the patient ...
  • RUSS
    RUSS 27 October 2013 11: 20 New
    0
    Regarding the Armenian doctor, in Chechnya in the early 90s, the first who left Chechnya were Armenians, Gypsies and Jews ...
  • Lesnik
    Lesnik 24 October 2013 11: 23 New
    +2
    Ali-Gurg UZ Today, 10:06 ↑
    Quote: anip
    Who gave them the right to kill people? Who delegated them to this?
    Can you read? But for people like you, the example of Ali Taziev (Magas) is given, no one has the right to it if Vanya hasn’t reached you, neither Ali nor Gunther have the right to do this ... understand? no?

    Quote: anip
    Unlike those murderers, Zhenya does not offer to kill all Asians and Caucasians, he simply offers to send everyone to their historical homeland.
    And since when did this steppe (the Kazakh people where Grandfather Stalin once sent the peoples of the Caucasus) become the historical homeland of Caucasians? And you didn’t read by chance how once already such an expulsion ended for thousands of people? no? apparently really not ... because the Chukchi is not a reader, he is a writer;)
    You respected consciously twist! Ayyay Nizzyaya negative
  • smersh70
    smersh70 24 October 2013 11: 46 New
    0
    Quote: anip
    he offers just to send everyone to their historical homeland

    and who then will provide assistance to the expiring citizen of Russia ..... who will call the police ..... to call to expel is easy to do, .... and how to help the helpless and bleeding ... - this is difficult to do ....
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 24 October 2013 11: 57 New
      +3
      Our doctors are mainly Russian, many Armenians ... hmm, I will regret everything, the rest are more exceptions.
    2. Lesnik
      Lesnik 24 October 2013 12: 37 New
      +2
      I ......... cried! crying
  • 528Obrp
    528Obrp 24 October 2013 12: 20 New
    +5
    We remove the Azeris, then the Tajiks, then the Chechens, etc. Will they stop killing?
    And now I will answer your question
    Quote: anip
    And who are Muslim terrorists, killers, who is Asiyalova, and who is Shcherbakov’s killer?
    - Bandits.
    And when there is no one but the Russians, they will kill the same Bandits.

    But why they (bandits) exist is a question for the government.
  • smile
    smile 24 October 2013 09: 24 New
    17
    Zhenya
    Story. certainly there is nowhere darker ... and there’s simply nothing to discuss here, in view of the fact that we simply don’t have reliable information ... but your statement that you don’t like that people BETWEEN YOURSELF speak their native languages ​​is beyond measure! Do not you think that after such statements, for example, you do not have the right to be indignant at the fact that in the Baltic shops of sellers and shops for speaking with the buyer in Russian the language inspection fines?
    The hint that non-Russian victims need help can not be rendered, even worse .... are you completely mad? What are you calling us to pass the Nuremberg Laws for? You have slipped to the level of Bandera or the Baltic Natsik.
    And most of all, such statements will strike the Russians — your idddiotic reasoning — like manna from heaven for the Natsiks in the republics, or the same North Caucasian Russophobes — they now have every right to yell — look at these Russians — fascism blossoms in them ..... dream of reason gives birth not to monsters, but to idddiots, you know, of whom they say, simplicity is worse than theft ...
    Such appeals contradict the very nature of the Russian people ... I am amazed at the number of pluses put forward to you ... honestly, I'm just ashamed ...
    I am very sorry that I can only answer possible objections late in the evening ...
    With disrespect.
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 24 October 2013 15: 03 New
      +5
      smile We look at the problem from different angles, each medal has its own side, you obviously do not look with the one with which I look.
      I will explain:
      1. When a person talks in a whisper, this is one thing, but when he yells at the whole street, it is another, it hurts the ear, do you understand the hint? I have never seen Caucasians talking to each other in a whisper, forgive me "Nazi".
      2. I am in my right mind thanks and help, judging by the pseudo article they had him.
      3. Ah, of course, don’t touch the poor, they have blown up a little, they killed a little, they executed a little, etc., etc. Let's be tolerant, right? Let's look at all this again through the prism of pink glasses, maybe it’ll blow through - as it is in Russian!
      4. Fascism is not blooming, it has already bloomed and this is the reason for the past 15 years, look not at the result, look at the root of the problem. Russians do not like southern neighbors because they are in the south? Due to the fact that there are mountains? What are you talking about? Didn’t blow up the houses on the Dubrovka? Didn’t they kill Russian soldiers in Chechnya? Do not throw in Grozny with high-rise Russian houses in the early 90's? No? What are you talking about? Everything got infected here and now ??
      5. The Russian people are accustomed to survive and now I see the same thing. History has the characteristic of repeating itself and making branches per revolution, and every century Russia survives, but all the time in different ways.
      6. Are you ashamed? Why, for calling for the preservation of a nation that has been diluted with millions of emigrants who fought for their independence? Which carry Islam, an alien religion for our people, are you talking about this? Why, for they piss on eternal flame and defile churches? Are you ashamed of this?
      7. Respect must be earned.
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 24 October 2013 15: 54 New
        -2
        Eugene +++ but somewhat shocking
      2. 528Obrp
        528Obrp 24 October 2013 16: 06 New
        +3
        Zhenya! Understand correctly. Fear breeds hatred. We (the titular nation) run the risk of being like a baited, frightened dog who, mad with fear, rushes at everyone. Leaving the enemy unscathed. The task is to firmly stand on your feet, find the enemy and destroy. And do not complex. Until we are afraid of yard mongrels - they are afraid of us
        1. 528Obrp
          528Obrp 24 October 2013 16: 49 New
          +2
          I’ll finish the thought. If you find a leader in a pack of mongrels, destroy him - the result will be one. The mongrel humbly follow you.

          PS
          I didn’t want to offend any nationalities here. This is just a model.
      3. smile
        smile 25 October 2013 00: 43 New
        +4
        Zhenya
        1. The thought is clear. Some of them admit demonstratively loud speech in public places. I do not like it either. The Lithuanians behave in the same way, not only here, but also in other countries — not only have I seen and heard this (and even maliciously yanked him a couple of times) - the Lithuanian press itself is joking about it. And the same behavior I have repeatedly noticed for some of our compatriots abroad (maybe it’s time for foreigners to punish ours for the Russian language, but they will have the right to do so if your dreams come true). Such behavior is simply characteristic of uncultured people. But you said differently, and the meaning of your statement turned out to be completely different - maybe you should be more careful about your wording? especially since the daily traffic to the site has long exceeded one hundred thousand (that is, several thousand people read your statement and made conclusions ...
        2. I do not understand. do you think that since one of them blew up a lot, killed a lot, then what? Destroy ALL of them? Build the Auschwitz complex? Transfer them all to the situation of people of the second grade? To tear off the North Caucasus from Russia? Do you understand that the whole history of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR is tolerance with non-Russians, who make up almost half of the country's population? Or did Shamil cut few Russians? But them him, eventually made an ally.
        Do you understand that without this tolerance we simply would not have such a country? By the way, and you know. that in the same Chechnya the mass of Czechs gave their lives for Chechnya to remain part of the Russian Federation? Do you know what the Dagestan cops went through? Do you remember that the first who reacted to the invasion of the Czechs in Dagestan were their militias, the dash than the armed ones, who lay with bones, protecting the Russian population as well? I personally know and even assisted in arranging in Kaliningrad the cashier girls (and her mothers) from the Grozny railway station, who in 94, when massacre was going on throughout Chechnya, was escorted by her Chechen classmates for her safety. I personally know the Vainakhs, who have lost everything and everyone, in a fight with Russophobes, who have not let go of their weapons for almost twenty years .... protecting Russians, including. Imagine that life, if at any moment they are ready to get a turn in the back on the threshold of the house. or at night a grenade at the window .... they even make the appropriate layout in the houses so that you can hide and shoot ...

        Do you offer me a damn about them?
        Listen, migrants do not mix with the Russian people - do you really not know that? In addition, migrants (mainly from Central Asia) are one thing. The North Caucasus is different. There are not so many migrants settling down, and their influence on the criminal situation is exaggerated - they are not suitable for the North Caucasian ethnic groups, the number of which is even less than that of migrants. Do you specifically mix them? Or unable to see the difference?
        And I am ashamed for the fact that under the supposedly noble sign of the struggle for the Russian people, they are trying to instill Nazism, which is widespread among Bandera and the Baltic states ... that someone is being waged .... if they win, we will lose everything, we will lose Russia, we will lose perspective on the revival of the likeness of the USSR, and one big kirdyk will come to us .... thirst?
        Yes. you are right, respect must be earned. Offering populist dangerous slogans, without even imagining the mechanism for their implementation, and even more so, the consequences-respect you will not deserve. Sorry, did not deserve it.
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 25 October 2013 00: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: smile
          Zhenya
          1. The thought is clear. Some of them admit demonstratively loud speech in public places. I do not like it either. The Lithuanians behave in the same way, not only here, but also in other countries — not only have I seen and heard this (and even maliciously yanked him a couple of times) - the Lithuanian press itself is joking about it. And the same behavior I have repeatedly noticed for some of our compatriots abroad (maybe it’s time for foreigners to punish ours for the Russian language, but they will have the right to do so if your dreams come true). Such behavior is simply characteristic of uncultured people. But you said differently, and the meaning of your statement turned out to be completely different - maybe you should be more careful about your wording? especially since the daily traffic to the site has long exceeded one hundred thousand (that is, several thousand people read your statement and made conclusions ...
          2. I do not understand. do you think that since one of them blew up a lot, killed a lot, then what? Destroy ALL of them? Build the Auschwitz complex? Transfer them all to the situation of people of the second grade? To tear off the North Caucasus from Russia? Do you understand that the whole history of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR is tolerance with non-Russians, who make up almost half of the country's population? Or did Shamil cut few Russians? But them him, eventually made an ally.
          Do you understand that without this tolerance we simply would not have such a country? By the way, and you know. that in the same Chechnya the mass of Czechs gave their lives for Chechnya to remain part of the Russian Federation? Do you know what the Dagestan cops went through? Do you remember that the first who reacted to the invasion of the Czechs in Dagestan were their militias, the dash than the armed ones, who lay with bones, protecting the Russian population as well? I personally know and even assisted in arranging in Kaliningrad the cashier girls (and her mothers) from the Grozny railway station, who in 94, when massacre was going on throughout Chechnya, was escorted by her Chechen classmates for her safety. I personally know the Vainakhs, who have lost everything and everyone, in a fight with Russophobes, who have not let go of their weapons for almost twenty years .... protecting Russians, including. Imagine that life, if at any moment they are ready to get a turn in the back on the threshold of the house. or at night a grenade at the window .... they even make the appropriate layout in the houses so that you can hide and shoot ...

          Do you offer me a damn about them?
          Listen, migrants do not mix with the Russian people - do you really not know that? In addition, migrants (mainly from Central Asia) are one thing. The North Caucasus is different. There are not so many migrants settling down, and their influence on the criminal situation is exaggerated - they are not suitable for the North Caucasian ethnic groups, the number of which is even less than that of migrants. Do you specifically mix them? Or unable to see the difference?
          And I am ashamed for the fact that under the supposedly noble sign of the struggle for the Russian people, they are trying to instill Nazism, which is widespread among Bandera and the Baltic states ... that someone is being waged .... if they win, we will lose everything, we will lose Russia, we will lose perspective on the revival of the likeness of the USSR, and one big kirdyk will come to us .... thirst?
          Yes. you are right, respect must be earned. Offering populist dangerous slogans, without even imagining the mechanism for their implementation, and even more so, the consequences-respect you will not deserve. Sorry, did not deserve it.

          Great post good sorry in most komentov opinion is different ...
          1. smile
            smile 25 October 2013 01: 50 New
            +3
            Prisoner
            Thank you very much.
            And about the comments .... the fact is. that the main part of them was written by frivolous people who let off steam .... to scream hotz for them, like at a football match ..... they don’t understand the meaning of even their cries ... and their consequences. I am convinced that the Russian people will never be guided by Nazi ideas, otherwise the price is worthless to us. Otherwise, we would never have created such a great state.
            Once again, I repeat - I have already said it repeatedly :))) - the most stringent (and, in the long term, bloody) options for solving an urgent problem are offered by people who do not understand the situation and absolutely do not know the price of human life .... tiligents in the worst sense of this word.
            It is unfortunate that I was busy and could not fully participate in the discussion of the topic on this thread ..... to be honest. I won’t even read, it’s unpleasant.

            And nevertheless - BUT PASARAN!
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 25 October 2013 02: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: smile
              Prisoner
              Thank you very much.
              And about the comments .... the fact is. that the main part of them was written by frivolous people who let off steam .... to scream hotz for them, like at a football match ..... they don’t understand the meaning of even their cries ... and their consequences. I am convinced that the Russian people will never be guided by Nazi ideas, otherwise the price is worthless to us. Otherwise, we would never have created such a great state.
              Once again, I repeat - I have already said it repeatedly :))) - the most stringent (and, in the long term, bloody) options for solving an urgent problem are offered by people who do not understand the situation and absolutely do not know the price of human life .... tiligents in the worst sense of this word.
              It is unfortunate that I was busy and could not fully participate in the discussion of the topic on this thread ..... to be honest. I won’t even read, it’s unpleasant.

              And nevertheless - BUT PASARAN!

              Not at all, I sincerely say so) And regarding the fact that we did not manage to participate in the discussion, it does not matter. Over the past few days, this topic has become the most popular here, for several articles I have been sure that they will be again, and more than once. Someone really wants to pit us together. Most of them are really not pleasant to read, but sometimes very thoughtful comments come across, for example, like yours. Regarding Nazism, I am sure that these ideas will not pass not only among your fellow tribesmen but also among ours. As long as there are healthy people, with a sober look and not just emotions, I think everything can be adjusted.
              1. smile
                smile 25 October 2013 03: 27 New
                0
                Prisoner
                All right. No problem. I’ve been here for a long time, so I agree :))) I just notice that a special aggravation is happening right now.

                To be honest, I was surprised at your statement about my fellow tribesmen ... I consider my fellow tribesmen to be Russian ..... you are probably on the site recently ... :)))
                I’m half Chechen, a quarter Ukrainian, a quarter Pole, my family is full of relatives everywhere, my mother lives in Lithuania ..... all my conscious life, until 17 years old, I lived in Lithuania, there I was Russian for everyone, and so I was raised, and so became .... externally I’m an absolute Slav, I went to my father’s relatives once, as a student, at the insistence of my mother .... he returned in a roundabout way with a through-cut hole in the upper third of my thigh ... very quickly (thanks to the Chechen grandfather the first and last time I saw who was leaving, I’m already old, I won’t be able to protect you) For them, I was also Russian .... I consider myself to them ... I’ve returned to Chechnya .... but no longer to relatives ..... to whom I would not dare to go, it’s not good to kill civilians, but to go to them without an automatic machine is stupid :)))))
                If one of my colleagues hears doubts about me being Russian, I’ll tear it up ... I won’t even have time to intervene .... :)))) I have never heard a single reproach addressed to me, although my last name is one time ( not yet banged) appeared in the relevant reports .... :))))
                in general, you are somewhat mistaken .... I am RUSSIAN! :))))

                A small addition, some site nationalists from some of the former republics of the USSR consider me (and call them names) a Russian chauvinist .... I hate Russophobes :)))
                1. Prisoner
                  Prisoner 25 October 2013 07: 01 New
                  +2
                  Quote: smile
                  Prisoner
                  All right. No problem. I’ve been here for a long time, so I agree :))) I just notice that a special aggravation is happening right now.

                  To be honest, I was surprised at your statement about my fellow tribesmen ... I consider my fellow tribesmen to be Russian ..... you are probably on the site recently ... :)))
                  I’m half Chechen, a quarter Ukrainian, a quarter Pole, my family is full of relatives everywhere, my mother lives in Lithuania ..... all my conscious life, until 17 years old, I lived in Lithuania, there I was Russian for everyone, and so I was raised, and so became .... externally I’m an absolute Slav, I went to my father’s relatives once, as a student, at the insistence of my mother .... he returned in a roundabout way with a through-cut hole in the upper third of my thigh ... very quickly (thanks to the Chechen grandfather the first and last time I saw who was leaving, I’m already old, I won’t be able to protect you) For them, I was also Russian .... I consider myself to them ... I’ve returned to Chechnya .... but no longer to relatives ..... to whom I would not dare to go, it’s not good to kill civilians, but to go to them without an automatic machine is stupid :)))))
                  If one of my colleagues hears doubts about me being Russian, I’ll tear it up ... I won’t even have time to intervene .... :)))) I have never heard a single reproach addressed to me, although my last name is one time ( not yet banged) appeared in the relevant reports .... :))))
                  in general, you are somewhat mistaken .... I am RUSSIAN! :))))

                  A small addition, some site nationalists from some of the former republics of the USSR consider me (and call them names) a Russian chauvinist .... I hate Russophobes :)))

                  ))) No, I was not mistaken at all. I myself am a Caucasian, Ingush, so when I wrote about your fellow tribesmen I meant exactly the Russians, but mine are therefore Caucasians. Although I am generally a citizen of the world and for me there are two categories of people - decent and dishonest. Apparently to some extent we are countrymen)))) I was born in Grozny, but we left long before the war. My father was the head of the construction department and he was transferred to another place for work. So I lived my entire conscious life in a multinational society and never experienced any problems in communicating with representatives of other nationalities and religions.
      4. Russ69
        Russ69 25 October 2013 01: 36 New
        +4
        4. Fascism is not blooming, it has already bloomed and this is the reason for the past 15 years, look not at the result, look at the root of the problem. Russians do not like southern neighbors because they are in the south? Due to the fact that there are mountains? What are you talking about? Didn’t blow up the houses on the Dubrovka? Didn’t they kill Russian soldiers in Chechnya? Do not throw in Grozny with high-rise Russian houses in the early 90's? No? What are you talking about? Everything got infected here and now ??

        Only, now the attacks take place mainly in the Caucasus, forgive me to look at the chronicle, almost every month something explodes. And basically the same Caucasians perish ... Enough of all, under the ode of a comb of revenge. There are both them and us. It is with them that you need to act as hard as possible.
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 25 October 2013 03: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Russ69
          Only, now the attacks take place mainly in the Caucasus, forgive me to look at the chronicle, almost every month something explodes. And basically the same Caucasians perish ... Enough of all, under the ode of a comb of revenge. There are both them and us. It is with them that you need to act as hard as possible.

          The inevitability of punishment for any crime, of any citizen, regardless of nationality, religion, political opinion and place of work. The eradication of corruption, the creation of jobs and higher education institutions with good teaching staff in the Caucasus. There will be a good education and work, the number of people wishing to leave somewhere in search of happiness will sharply decrease.
          I think so.
          PS Yes, and not only necessarily higher education, even secondary special ones too.
  • Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 24 October 2013 11: 49 New
    +4
    Damn, poor Chechen. I doubt very much that he politely expressed himself. One, by their own method, was fucked, and the stink was on the whole Internet. Not a bit of a pity for him. They got us.
    1. MilaPhone
      MilaPhone 24 October 2013 12: 04 New
      +5
      This incident is intended to counterbalance the resonance from the recent events in Biryuleva. Of course, only in the opinion of the authors and screenwriters of this work, whose ears are clear from where they grow, given the presence of such characters as "good Azerbaijani" and "bad Armenian".
      1. Tommygun
        Tommygun 24 October 2013 16: 27 New
        -4
        I think if lumps continue to push such an empty bag, then they will really start to cut them in minibuses.
      2. alone
        alone 24 October 2013 20: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: Milafon
        as a "good Azerbaijani" and "bad Armenian".


        the doctor, no matter who he was, should fulfill his professional duty. Nobody had the right to drive the wounded out of the hospital.
    2. Jin
      Jin 24 October 2013 13: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
      Damn, poor Chechen. I doubt very much that he politely expressed himself. One, by their own method, was fucked, and the stink was on the whole Internet. Not a bit of a pity for him. They got us.


      There is such a thing. I always thought why, why ANYWHERE IN RUSSIA, EXCEPT THE MOST RUSSIAN REGIONS A STRUGGLE AGAINST INTER-ETHNIC HAZELS WON'T ??? Where is she in Dagestan, in Chechnya, in Ingushetia ??? WHY ARE THE RUSSIAN "GUILTY" IN KINKING UP SOMETHING EVERYWHERE, EVEN IN THEIR HOMELAND?
  • Mairos
    Mairos 24 October 2013 12: 05 New
    +4
    Man, I also don’t like much in the worldview of Caucasians and in the behavior of many of them, but ... Stop carrying the snowstorm. About the steppe and wagons.
    1. Lesnik
      Lesnik 24 October 2013 12: 41 New
      0
      I advise you to CAREFULLY read WHO it "carries" this blizzard
  • Uncle
    Uncle 24 October 2013 12: 26 New
    +3
    Quote: Marrying
    I hate when Caucasians speak their languages, maybe they send you?

    Scolding in an incomprehensible language is like showing a cookie in your pocket. smile
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 24 October 2013 12: 37 New
      +3
      Russians in Europe (not very smart) do that often. The so-called "tagil"
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 24 October 2013 12: 40 New
    +2
    I think none of us has the right to discuss what was in absentia, because we didn’t see it, let's just take note and wait for the situation to clear up and comment, but for now I think the whole conversation is idle talk and slander, and slander, and it is you know sin.
  • Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 24 October 2013 13: 20 New
    +4
    again the shouts of the "poor" Caucasians ... well, well ... on the back there is still a souvenir from one such "proud mountaineer"
  • honest jew
    honest jew 24 October 2013 14: 53 New
    -1
    Custom-made article, complete lies, this was not !!! Gebnya has already reached here, trying to otmazyvat Muslims after the recent events in Biryulyovo. The meaning of the article is that Russian nationalists slaughter visitors !!!! How famously the KGB officers turned the article upside down !!! Moscow -Russian city and Russian decide who to come and who to live here and how to behave !!!
    1. Volodin
      24 October 2013 15: 16 New
      +2
      Only after such a comment never say that you read articles from beginning to end ...
  • Mujahiddin777
    Mujahiddin777 24 October 2013 15: 50 New
    +1
    Some kind of valuable article. What difference does it make? And what they say ... If you are a believer, then you should not care if he curses or not. Then, explain to the government of the Russian Federation to separate the entire Caucasus, Tatarstan, Chukotka, etc. they speak different languages, incomprehensible to you ... and make a visa regime for them so that their speech will not be heard at all!
  • sancho
    sancho 24 October 2013 16: 24 New
    +1
    Brothers and sisters!

    I propose to celebrate Airborne Forces Day at least once a month!

    All! And .... not a single national ....

    I think six months is enough ....
    Again, the defenses of our reservists will grow!
  • Syrdon
    Syrdon 24 October 2013 17: 43 New
    0
    while writing how many times threw a zig? five times, six no less!
  • cdrt
    cdrt 24 October 2013 17: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: Marrying
    I hate when Caucasians speak their languages, maybe they send you? How do I know?


    A classic example of xenophobia ...
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 24 October 2013 18: 05 New
      +1
      cdrt What a fellow you are! And where is your point of view? wink
  • Revolver
    Revolver 24 October 2013 08: 01 New
    24
    Muslim Communist ???
    As it was said in one anecdote, "you either take off the cross, or put on your panties."
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 24 October 2013 08: 07 New
      +6
      No, I do not deny fights. Russians and Caucasians became very frequent, but Czechs always differ in arrogance and this is a pure linden. But the doctor did emergency help and sent them, they would say thank you for treating this money with our money.
    2. catapractic
      catapractic 24 October 2013 08: 48 New
      14
      maybe a typo laughing not a communist, but an Islamist
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 24 October 2013 09: 49 New
        +4
        the first biblical communist Moses freed his people from slavery, the second Jesus he is full of communist calls described in the Bible, but Magomed said that both Moses and Jesus were his predecessors and denies only their divine essence without denying their completely communist views and appeals. So the Muslim and the communist are puzzled only by those who do not know. wink
        1. avt
          avt 24 October 2013 10: 31 New
          +4
          Quote: Semurg
          the first biblical communist Moses freed his people from slavery,

          This is strong! In general, an interesting slavery was in Egypt, but if you read in the Bible, then there are such tricks the slaves do with the masters - mom do not grieve, what is only a description about how the slave girls who fell asleep had stolen jewelry and it seemed like nothing, well, a couple more fun things In the dashing years, the slaves "over the owners" did it, read it, well, very entertaining. As well as the figure of Moses himself, the adopted son of Pharaoh, who drunkenly killed the patrolmen and was expelled from the capital for this.
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 24 October 2013 11: 27 New
            +3
            Quote: avt
            .Like the figure of Moses himself, the adopted son of the pharaoh, who drunk the slaughtered patrolmen and was expelled from the capital for this.

            where two or more people live together, a lot of things happen, both good and bad. For the young years of Moses, why read, just look at the current golden youth and the fact that some of them get up, but this does not mean that some of them will not appear thread new prophets, as they say, the ways of the Lord are not confessed.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 24 October 2013 11: 54 New
            11
            Quote: avt
            , if you read it in the Bible, then there slaves with masters do such tricks - don’t mourn

            As a familiar vrei told me, Moses drove them 40 years, not so that two generations of slaves would die out, but so that two generations of people would die out, remembering that in Egypt it was not so bad.
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 24 October 2013 12: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: Semurg
          the first biblical communist Moses freed his people from slavery, the second Jesus is full of communist calls described in the Bible

          Communism generally denies the existence of God; for them, Moses and Jesus are no more than historical figures.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 24 October 2013 14: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: Uncle
            Communism generally denies the existence of God; for them, Moses and Jesus are no more than historical figures.

            Semurg meant that the ideology of the Torah is very similar to the ideology of communism. Jewish kibbutzim practically do not differ from collective farms. hi
    3. d1m1drol
      d1m1drol 24 October 2013 08: 54 New
      +1
      These are the words from the DDT song - "gypsy" in my opinion ...
    4. Altona
      Altona 24 October 2013 11: 11 New
      +4
      No ... There is absolutely no contradiction in the fact that he is a communist and a Muslim ... Moreover, for such a bouquet of worldviews in my head, I would have sent this guy for harsh interrogation at the FSB, and not in a hospital bed ... Because COMMUNISM + ISLAM = RADICAL WAHHABISM ... This I would advise to write in all the cop's manuals ... Moreover, the story contains a Slavic girl who threatened him ... This fantastic passage is generally difficult to comment on, as I understand the "brave" highlanders are afraid women, so they walk in a crowd and with pistols ... In general, the guy is delusional, and needs intensive therapy, but in a different clinic ...
    5. In the reeds
      In the reeds 24 October 2013 18: 54 New
      +2
      My main power engineer in the Crimea at the factory in Pervomayskoye was a Tatar and a communist and in full in the subject, a real Muslim. Real here and there. And I was friends with them because their word is this word. I remember Rustem and Osman and Nasyr with love. And when he came to the "dacha" he went to Nasyr to drink water he received at the entrance to the courtyard "Hala Nagila" from the window. And then he told me how his wife ran away to my mother, and gave me green tea after yesterday's ... How I love him, his two-toothed smile and his acardion
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 25 October 2013 01: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: In the reeds
        My glanced power engineer in the Crimea at the factory in Pervomaisky was a Tatar and a communist and in full subject, a real Muslim.

        Let you not believe it. One can believe either in communism or in Allah, but not in both at once. Communism presupposes an unconditional belief in dialectical and historical materialism, and therefore atheism, leaving no room for Allah. Another thing is that he could have Muslim roots and a name, and even adhere to some customs, but this is rather not a religion but a family tradition.
        As it was then said, the communist must be able to distinguish between diamat and ordinary mat.
        1. poquello
          poquello 25 October 2013 02: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Nagan
          Quote: In the reeds
          My glanced power engineer in the Crimea at the factory in Pervomaisky was a Tatar and a communist and in full subject, a real Muslim.

          Let you not believe it. One can believe either in communism or in Allah, but not in both at once. Communism presupposes an unconditional belief in dialectical and historical materialism, and therefore atheism, leaving no room for Allah. Another thing is that he could have Muslim roots and a name, and even adhere to some customs, but this is rather not a religion but a family tradition.
          As it was then said, the communist must be able to distinguish between diamat and ordinary mat.

          How will your argument prevent the Tatar from believing in Allah and a bright communist future?
          "First, not God, but comrade God.
          Secondly, I am in a hurry to the party meeting. "
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR 24 October 2013 08: 02 New
    +6
    Suitcase-station-native home ...
    1. loisop
      loisop 24 October 2013 09: 07 New
      +5
      Chechen is a citizen of the Russian Federation. Like all other participants (except, possibly, a minibus). Send him out, he will come again in a month or two. Legally.
      In order for him to leave by himself and not come again, he must have work for the masses in his small homeland. While most of the country's finances are spinning in Moscow, they will go from all corners of the immense in order to snatch.
      1. anip
        anip 24 October 2013 10: 01 New
        +8
        Quote: loisop
        In order for him to leave by himself and not come again, he must have work for the masses in his small homeland.

        What are you? Will they really work ??? If they wanted to work, they would find work in their republic. You might think that there are no unemployed people where they are "bursting" and there is simply a shortage of labor. And do they really go to work? That is how they "work" can be seen from them.
      2. klimpopov
        klimpopov 24 October 2013 10: 41 New
        13
        Their parents send them to study! They give them money, so that only a son can study and become a man, but here, under the influence of various figures, from the permissiveness of lack of control, they start to go stupid, you cannot put them in their place otherwise you yourself will sit down! After graduation, naturally they do not go home, by hook or by crook they stay in the cities, they stay in a handful with their own people and do what, they rarely work, if they do work - the main principle is hiring (I have come across), and they are reluctant to hire, one might say they do not because how they studied, you know how, so it turns out a little embittered beast who hates the Russians (and who else is to blame? he himself, in no case) who really does not know how, does not want to go home, here he cannot, here it is the soil for Wahhabism, easy money promises are carried on when they realize it is too late. This is one of the categories. There are also "sons" of princelings, those from the age of 18 ride on coyens with watches that our patriarch never dreamed of - these surround themselves with the above described plus for them to show their significance and exoticism (Wahhabism and similar currents satiated with ordinary life). What is interesting around them are ALWAYS Russian girls from decent families (I know) who hate Russians and everything Russian (amazingly yes?) Who do not consider Russian guys to be people. And the Russian Vanya goes to the plant, gets his salary and pays a loan for a three-year-old cheap foreign car and dreams of buying a one-room car. And a young non-Russian family is quietly getting new housing. That is how we live! Plus, those who come to ride from the mountains for the weekend - this is not the law at all ...

        Of course, I invented all this and it has nothing to do with reality. So pure my fantasies.
        Of course there are good ones and not all of them ... I understand all this .. but ....
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 24 October 2013 11: 01 New
          13
          For good. How long is Vani enough? So with Vanya, they also turn out all taxes, Vanya raises taxes on the car and pays Vanya in full and for an apartment and so on ... That is, he is an honest law-abiding citizen of the country (an ideal citizen) who is in the most disenfranchised position ... So he is still and hate it.
          Wonderful however.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 24 October 2013 12: 30 New
            +5
            Quote: klimpopov
            So with Vanya, they also turn out all the taxes, they raise taxes on the car and Vanya pays in full and for the apartment, and so on ... That is, he is an honest law-abiding citizen of the country (an ideal citizen) who is in the most disenfranchised position ...

            Golden words!
          2. Jin
            Jin 24 October 2013 13: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: klimpopov
            So everyone still hates him.
            Wonderful however.


            + Burn, Klim, however! good
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 24 October 2013 13: 56 New
              +4
              I write what I see. I live it every day, but maybe I get a little thicker, but on the whole it’s like that. The number of pluses suggests that at least eight people live in the same way - does it mean there is a sound grain in my words?
              But I don’t know to whom to address the question ... Authorities? Yourself? To whom?
              1. Jin
                Jin 24 October 2013 14: 12 New
                +1
                Quote: klimpopov
                So is there a sound grain in my words?


                There would be no healthy grain, my comment would be different) The fact of the matter is that there is, moreover, in a rather professional presentation! Not a journalist for an hour?
                1. klimpopov
                  klimpopov 24 October 2013 14: 43 New
                  +1
                  Not a journalist for an hour?

                  Noooo)))) I just read a lot, watch, well, in absentia, plus to everything. In general, it is necessary to get together with the spirit and write on the "topic of the day" and the topic is very close.
                  1. Jin
                    Jin 24 October 2013 21: 53 New
                    0
                    Quote: klimpopov
                    In general, it is necessary to get together with the spirit and write on the "topic of the day" and the topic is very close.


                    It will be very interesting to read and comprehend! Personally, I look forward to it! drinks
                    1. klimpopov
                      klimpopov 24 October 2013 22: 35 New
                      0
                      Well, I force the spelling. Thank!
        2. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 24 October 2013 14: 15 New
          -2
          Quote: klimpopov
          They are sent to study by parents!
        3. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 24 October 2013 14: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: klimpopov
          They give them money so that only their son can study and become a person
        4. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 24 October 2013 14: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Yarosvet
          They give them money so that only their son can study and become a person
      3. Altona
        Altona 24 October 2013 13: 15 New
        +4
        I am also a citizen of the Russian Federation, however, the Podolsky or Yaroslavl cop in the subway will always go through my documents, because I'm a brunette ...
    2. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 24 October 2013 11: 48 New
      +2
      Is this an appeal only to Caucasians and Asians living in Russia? Or to Russian and other nationalities living in the Caucasus and Asia.

      Oh, and now they will attack me ... laughing
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 24 October 2013 12: 01 New
        +7
        Well, no one favors Russians in the Caucasus in the national republics (again, to put it mildly). For 20 years the influx of Russians has not been observed there (to put it mildly). Those who stayed simply do not have the opportunity to leave and would love to. And yes, their blood will be shed first if something happens. That is, the Russians in the Caucasus remain hostages to national hostility.
        For Wed I don’t know Asia ... Again, I don’t think that the Russians travel to Tajikistan by whole trains and drive out the local population from low-paying jobs. Do you agree?

        Py Sy I can live in Arkhyz or in Karachayevsk. But they will tell me quickly ... Do you understand what I mean?
        1. Eternal demobilization
          Eternal demobilization 24 October 2013 15: 16 New
          +2
          I understand what you mean. But for some reason there are quite a lot of Russians in Arkhyz and Karach who (to put it mildly) do not want to leave there, in the same Cherkessk and Teberda, but I’ll be silent about Dombay))). Need some examples? Please, I can give you addresses, they will welcome you there with pleasure. These are my classmates with whom we are still friends and communicate. This is to the fact that nobody particularly favors Russians (to put it mildly)))) lol . By the way, you can go to Khabez too, my mother lives there now, and our neighbors, the Russian family. Which, when I come to my relatives, they greet me as if I were their son (again, to put it mildly). And the hostages of the national feud, in fact, remain those who want a normal life, and not, those who want to easily cut money, walk girls.

          Py Sy. I invite you to Arkhyz and Karach, and also to Teberda and Dombay. And I and my friends will tell you. Not the ones you think of. I do not exclude the possibility that there should be no such thing. Do you understand what I mean?
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 24 October 2013 15: 30 New
            +1
            I go to Khabez for mushrooms (when I have time). In general, there are no problems in that direction (well, only dips sometimes). Again Zelenchukskaya and so on, well, there are naturally many Russians there. And yet there is a tendency. At least in Cherkessk this was the case with my aunt when the chemical plant stood up. Yes, and I will not risk taking a walk there to be honest.
            And the hostages of the national feud, in fact, remain those who want a normal life

            I’m talking about them. They always suffer first.

            But before my eyes is an example of Chechnya and others. The KCR in this regard is perhaps the most tolerant, so to speak.
  • rereture
    rereture 24 October 2013 08: 08 New
    +4
    As they say the history of the BOB (lies, p ... dezh and provocation)
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 24 October 2013 08: 23 New
    +6
    Even in the representation of Chechnya otshili? hmm, because a communist? nde ......
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 24 October 2013 09: 54 New
      0
      Quote: EGORKA
      Even in the representation of Chechnya otshili? hmm, because a communist? nde ......

      maybe the story is muddy, maybe against the backdrop of Biryulyovo they didn’t want to escalate the situation. Time and an honest investigation will show.
      1. EGORKA
        EGORKA 24 October 2013 11: 01 New
        0
        Even so, but to stitch?
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 24 October 2013 08: 23 New
    +6
    A muddy story ..
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 24 October 2013 09: 45 New
      +3
      A muddy story ..

      I agree. in each episode individually, you can somehow still believe it, but all together this bust is some kind of gypsy.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 24 October 2013 08: 28 New
    +6
    People, why are you minus the article? The man tried so that everyone here could get acquainted. And to know such stories is very useful, well, at least, ahem, for overall development (This is, if politically correct, otherwise the moderators have already warned me).
    1. Volodin
      24 October 2013 12: 46 New
      +2
      So, apparently, they consider that the author himself wrote the story ...
  • MuadDib
    MuadDib 24 October 2013 08: 38 New
    +1
    Rimbaud. Far from the first blood.
  • catapractic
    catapractic 24 October 2013 08: 49 New
    +7
    whether he cut it or cut it, in general, a person is not reliable wink
    1. Analyst
      Analyst 24 October 2013 22: 27 New
      0
      Quote: cataphractium
      whether he cut it or cut it, in general, a person is not reliable

      Rather, there was an ordinary scratch, but the child started to panic. And the doctors scratched the drum and everything, apparently with a bandage, rewound it, go home, but it seemed to him a little need to have the operation done.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 24 October 2013 08: 53 New
    +2
    As Comrade Goblin says - "Everything is perfect in this story."
    Thanks for the article, I hope to continue. And maybe it’s true, Chechen-Dagestan-Muslim-Communists have appeared, it’s even scary to imagine. Although apparently the ideology is simple, everything around is common, that is mine.
    1. ale-x
      ale-x 24 October 2013 09: 40 New
      +4
      There are educated people among them. Believe me, even with communist convictions, I personally know. He doesn’t even go to the mosque on Friday, saying why would I be a hypocrite? He told his sons to decide for themselves. One of his sons, by the way, works in a transport company, and an electrician in his specialty.
      1. vlad_pr
        vlad_pr 24 October 2013 12: 17 New
        +1
        There are always exceptions to the rules, like a mouse, quiet, rye, oven. The rest ending in hissing without a soft sign, and these words are legion ...
        Sincerely.
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 24 October 2013 08: 55 New
    10
    Fantasy. I think that this story from beginning to end is a lie. Why? We can only assume that behind it lies the true cause of the knife wound.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 October 2013 09: 01 New
      +9
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      I think that this story from beginning to end is a lie. Why?

      Of course a lie, it would be true they would have been yelling for the whole country for a long time. And there’s nothing to say .... a Muslim-communist belay Well, at least not a capitalist laughing
  • ed65b
    ed65b 24 October 2013 08: 57 New
    +5
    And that a Muslim cannot be a communist? Or support the ideas of Father Marx?
  • Unsam
    Unsam 24 October 2013 09: 00 New
    +7
    Enchanting delirium)
    1. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 09: 38 New
      -8
      Quote: UnSam
      Enchanting delirium)

      How much you got bogged down ... if Chechen, a priori, he cannot be normal and neither could he be polite ... nor like a Tajik could call a PPS outfit and an Azerbaijani drove well, no matter how politely he could ask for a DPS outfit ... not that you are a Chechen, he can only kill a beast ... but for some reason they killed him ... but here everyone is almost sure the evil Czech himself stabbed himself in a minibus while pronouncing, see how strong I can be myself Chechen cut with a knife ... and you are all not strong :) hmm ...
      1. EGORKA
        EGORKA 24 October 2013 09: 53 New
        +9
        It may of course be normal, but due to the large number of wild people from the Caucasus and Asia, fewer and fewer people believe in it. And the solution is very simple, you don’t have to go to someone else’s monastery with your charter, you came so live by the rules of the area where you came and everything will be fine, although not without problems, but gradually everything will settle down.
        1. Ali-gurg
          Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 10: 12 New
          -4
          Quote: EGORKA
          And the solution is very simple, don’t have to go to someone else’s monastery with your own charter, come so live by the rules

          ahahah ... and what did this guy break? what did he do? made a comment? so it's not by the rules to make a comment to the boor? ahahaa ... this is fierce nonsense ... a priori, Rafik is guilty because he is Rafik even if they killed him :)
          1. EGORKA
            EGORKA 24 October 2013 10: 26 New
            +6
            You believe in it, but I don’t, and therefore I don’t see any reason to discuss it. So if there are irrefutable docks, then you can still talk. And of course he didn’t say anything bad, and the woman and the knife seem to have fled from the asylum ....
            My opinion is that this whole detective story is just addressed to a Caucasian audience ... after reading this many how outraged you are, the Chechens were sent to the Chechen mission ....
            1. Ali-gurg
              Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 10: 38 New
              -4
              Quote: EGORKA
              You believe in it, but I don’t, and therefore I don’t see any reason to discuss it. So if there are irrefutable docks, then you can still talk.

              ahahaha ... Chechen Tajik and Azerbaijani testimonies plus PPS and DPS reports, yes, this is not a doc, since Czechs Tajik and Azerbaijanis cannot be trusted to lie to the devil, because Rafika stabbed Ali and the insidious southerners decided to throw them on a sweet innocent a couple ... that's right you're right comrade ... wink
              1. EGORKA
                EGORKA 24 October 2013 10: 45 New
                +3
                I did not write this, that you cannot believe why the Chechen was not believed then in the Chechen representation?
                1. Ali-gurg
                  Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 11: 01 New
                  -2
                  Quote: EGORKA
                  I didn’t write that you can’t believe

                  so ... and this is how to understand:
                  Quote: EGORKA
                  You believe it, but I do not

                  ahaha ... sophistry wink Zhirinovsky log in under a real name and burn the comrade hellish fire ...
                  1. Mairos
                    Mairos 24 October 2013 12: 15 New
                    0
                    Maybe a lie, maybe not. Sorry for the cut guy. The militia is messing around, as often happens. Although, in all honesty, a polite remark from a Chechen is an exotic fruit. Rather, people can hear something like - "Uh .. you fool shut your mouth! Oh .. but what?" Although it would not be worth cutting for such a thing. I am very sorry that the behavior of young people from the Caucasus differs so much in "non-native" Russian regions from the behavior at home. In general, there is one oddity. You communicate with any of them tete-a-tete - there are a lot of great guys, but in the presence of fellow countrymen, many become simply inadequate - arrogant, arrogant and aggressive. What for ?!
  • Mr. Gambu4aS
    Mr. Gambu4aS 24 October 2013 09: 05 New
    +6
    Well, they made me laugh in the morning, thanks to the article, otherwise I was yawning, now I don't want to sleep and I can get to work! PS It was necessary to write such a story, they would have to write detective stories))) I remembered the incident of how my friend and I drove into the bochin, a vaz 2104 overloaded with watermelons, the color of eggplant with these writers, despite the fact that we were driving along the main road, and these "businessmen" were driving on the secondary side, so then they were still in the DPS department "by their mother, listen that they were driving without touching anyone, but then these Wasis appeared from around the corner and drove them into the bochina from all over the acceleration")))))
  • major071
    major071 24 October 2013 09: 07 New
    15
    Muddy history. Another incitement to ethnic hatred. Only now the Caucasians are white and fluffy, and the Russians are evil and bad. Well, you don’t like living with Russians - go home, and if you are visiting, behave accordingly.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 24 October 2013 09: 51 New
      +7
      Muddy history. Another incitement to ethnic hatred. Only now the Caucasians are white and fluffy, and the Russians are evil and bad. Well, you don’t like living with Russians - go home, and if you are visiting, behave accordingly.

      I agree. the story is clearly awkward. Yes, even if it were true, it strains so many Caucasian Tajiks.
      and the story is still not complete. it was necessary even so - the PPS crew, consisting of Dagestanis, called an ambulance - an Uzbek driver, a Kyrgyz doctor. Georgians passed by and helped to load the victim on a stretcher.
      and these two dastardly Russians - a girl and a guy - are easy to figure out by their faces, which differ from the faces of the rest of the "Muscovites"
  • Denga
    Denga 24 October 2013 09: 08 New
    +4
    By the way, I remembered a joke from one Caucasian "Allah and the Communist Party will do everything"
  • Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 24 October 2013 09: 45 New
    +5
    Definitely an attempt at provocation at the level of word of mouth.
  • aviator65
    aviator65 24 October 2013 09: 48 New
    +1
    The crap is full.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 24 October 2013 09: 54 New
    +3
    Straight plot for the Caucasian War series in Moscow.
  • atomic
    atomic 24 October 2013 09: 57 New
    +6
    Yes, why the argument? A Chechen in a minibus is like a Jew with a shovel. Neither is implausible.
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 24 October 2013 12: 35 New
      0
      Come on .. do not bend something. You might think that they all ride Bentleys
  • Thirsty for wind
    Thirsty for wind 24 October 2013 10: 02 New
    +8
    Well sprinkled with assumptions. In my opinion it smells of fiction. Well, or at least the desire to interpret all the actions involved in one single context.
    Have you tried reading Azeri forums? Well, they write every fifth, "this uasiam nada a member of the mouth sauat" Personally, for me, somehow tolerance subsided and the level of liberalism in my blood fell slightly.

    They themselves have gained such a rating among those around and around; they are also trying to blame this.
  • DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 24 October 2013 10: 03 New
    +4
    Lan let the cops do it)
    We just heard one side, this is the most unfinished guy and Tajik henchman.
    Maybe there was no girl, or there was, but not one ... and the young dzhigit looked at her as a piece of meat, and this wasn’t really liked by anyone who was traveling with her)
    I know one thing, if they find the guy who killed him, they will give him to these same Chechens and they will kill him.
    1. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 10: 18 New
      -4
      Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
      We just heard one side, this is the most unfinished guy and Tajik henchman.

      Hmm ... if the Czech then immediately lack ... witness Tajik means henchman ... ahahahah ... no words wink Aw ... a respected general, they killed a man and not the guys from the south did it that you had a template gap?
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        DuraLexSedLex. 24 October 2013 11: 39 New
        +3
        I do not hide my distrust and bias, that’s all.
        I will not minus you, because your opinion, as a person, is equal to mine. And that's why I will remain with mine, and you will be mine. hi
        1. Ali-gurg
          Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 11: 44 New
          -2
          Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
          I do not hide my distrust and bias

          It’s hard for you to live ... it’s like you trump the concept of the law on your nickname, and the law is objectivity and right away talk about subjectivity ... wink
          1. DuraLexSedLex.
            DuraLexSedLex. 24 October 2013 11: 56 New
            +2
            It is worthless to the law that does not work: either everyone is equal before it or it is not needed.
            And you should not blame me for anything, "+" will not add to you) And it will not do me honor) And do not become personalities not beautifully ... you do not know what to answer, be reasonably silent, it always helps.
            1. Ali-gurg
              Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 12: 19 New
              -3
              Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
              do not know what to answer, silently argued

              ahah ... wink what arguments can be translated to a person who is biased on the topic? what are the arguments? argument is an objective thing and it is not biased for you ...
              1. DuraLexSedLex.
                DuraLexSedLex. 24 October 2013 12: 24 New
                +1
                Would you just blurt out something?
                1. Ali-gurg
                  Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 12: 36 New
                  -1
                  Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
                  Would you just blurt out something?

                  Why did I blurt out such a thing that you did not write here on the forum? Write yourself that you are biased and the facts above are not facts and arguments for you ... what is the problem then?
      2. Lesnik
        Lesnik 24 October 2013 14: 40 New
        0
        Yeah and not just a template laughing
  • Daler
    Daler 24 October 2013 10: 03 New
    +1
    Well, yes, when a person of Caucasian ethnicity is cut, this is nonsense. Naturally. We are waiting for confirmation on your request, dear editors.
    And you don’t have to be one-sided, Cav.Natz people are cut often enough. It is a fact.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 24 October 2013 10: 09 New
      +7
      persons cav.nats cut and often enough

      Caucasians cut Russian and each other. they love this business very much - and this is a fact
      1. Daler
        Daler 24 October 2013 10: 25 New
        0
        I mean, they would investigate honestly and punish the guilty. After reading the article, I had the feeling that this Chechen had stabbed himself, and blamed some other citizen for it.
        About why why all the contact persons are non-Russian. Maybe because they will not be helped? Also, according to the statement of the minibus driver (Tajik), the faculty did not pay attention to him, and plus none of the passengers of the minibus was honored to inform the cops ...
        It seems that everything in Russia is very tense there, or someone is trying to expose everything like that. Hold on in short, all the same, more than half of non-Russians are citizens of the Russian Federation, not all of them are migrant workers.
        1. Starfish
          Starfish 24 October 2013 10: 31 New
          +3
          It looks like everything in Russia is very tense

          already got this situation. and not only Caucasian migrants, but our thievishly speaking power got no less.
      2. EGORKA
        EGORKA 24 October 2013 10: 33 New
        +2
        Moreover, due to competition, each other is more likely to be cut more often.
    2. EGORKA
      EGORKA 24 October 2013 10: 16 New
      +1
      Not nonsense, but such a detective is very alarming ...
    3. Lesnik
      Lesnik 24 October 2013 10: 43 New
      +1
      Well, yes, I agree they cut - the same "FACES" wink
    4. Tommygun
      Tommygun 24 October 2013 17: 59 New
      0
      Not often enough
  • builder
    builder 24 October 2013 10: 04 New
    +9
    Very similar to the script for the film.
    "Polite young man (ethnic Chechen) in minibus No. 523 was returning after celebration of the Muslim festival of Kurban Bayram, at the moment was driving a minibus taxi Tajik driver Ali Muhammad, but then it becomes known that a taxi car was passing by, which led an Azerbaijani ..... "kicked out of the hospital." And they kicked out, as Muslimov himself and his relatives say, the deputy chief doctor Grachy Yagubyan Without explaning the reason"
    Question: In the capital of which state did this amazing story take place? Who were those evil Russians who "... you see, they ride in public transport with knives, they swear non-believers and cut them down their throats" from ear to ear, Tourists? illegal migrants? Maybe the occupiers?
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 24 October 2013 10: 13 New
    +5
    It seems to me that all this "shish kebab" - the thriller is mostly written for the Caucasian audience ... you never know what it can provoke.
  • Grbear
    Grbear 24 October 2013 10: 16 New
    10
    Bullshit, and the rating on the site received adequate. But the thing is different. The description is presented, people are named, there are photos - AND AUTHOR. For half an hour the opera should consider the material. If the AUTHOR, at least a bit, lied - an article for inciting. And without tolerance. IMHO
    1. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 10: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: GrBear
      If the AUTHOR, at least a bit, lied - an article for inciting. And without tolerance

      I agree ... they don’t joke with this and they don’t play toys ...
    2. Daler
      Daler 24 October 2013 10: 31 New
      +3
      This author writes a lot of things. This is not his first article. Mostly he writes objectively, but still in some places his hatred of non-Russians is felt, and he is not to blame. Life teaches everyone to look at this world in different ways.
      1. Volodin
        24 October 2013 12: 56 New
        +4
        his hatred for non-Russians is felt
        Dear sensual reader, leave your conclusions about "hatred of non-Russians" to yourself, as they are insanely far from reality. Did you find a phrase somewhere in the article that there was no assassination attempt, or that a stab in the throat is a lie? If we have already sat down to read the article (and even more so to comment), then at least read it more closely, this is the only way to understand what the material is really about. Let me explain: material about the delusional set of testimonies - that's it! What kind of hatred for whom? You have a wild imagination.
    3. EGORKA
      EGORKA 24 October 2013 10: 35 New
      0
      We’ll see if everything can be clarified further.
  • valerei
    valerei 24 October 2013 10: 29 New
    +2
    Muddy article. What dunghill did they dig it all from? And how many comments! With pleasure, the commentators shawled, to put it mildly, a foul-smelling brew and, having no facts !!, they began to judge! What are we talking about, gentlemen?
  • Forest
    Forest 24 October 2013 10: 53 New
    +2
    This story is more like science fiction (or the fantasy of gibbegals) - a "peaceful Chechen" and a Muscovite attacking him with a knife.
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  • Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 24 October 2013 10: 58 New
    +2
    Well, of course, this is all fiction, delirium and provocation. This murder is also visible fantasy. - The Investigative Committee of the Rostov Region announces the completion of the investigation against Dmitry Kurgan, Andrei Murka, Ilya Samotyuk, Yuri Khrushchev, Vladimir Ivanov and Pavel Denikin, who participated in the murder of a 19-year-old Turk. Recall, on May 6 last year, in a park near the Sports Palace, a group of 10 young people attacked two guys sitting peacefully on a bench. As a result, one of the victims managed to escape, another, a 19-year-old Turk, was killed. As it turned out later, the Meskhetian Turk has Russian citizenship and came to a friend in Rostov to find work. As the investigation found out, a group of young people returned from the match “Rostov” - “Volga”. They were wearing the attributes of one of the teams. “They approached the Sports Palace“ on a march ”, lining up in a column of three people, singing the song“ Wonderful skinhead ”and shouting slogans of a nationalistic character -“ Russia for Russians ”. After we approached the two sitting guys. First they beat a Rostov citizen who managed to escape and run away, and then overtook a 19-year-old Turk and struck several times with a “rose” and a knife, which killed the young man, ”employees of the Don Investigation Committee said at one of their press conferences.
    1. EGORKA
      EGORKA 24 October 2013 11: 07 New
      +2
      You still bring with 10 of these, but all of them in no way will be a confirmation of a particular case. By the way, what you brought just proves that the guilty will be punished.
      1. Lakkuchu
        Lakkuchu 24 October 2013 11: 19 New
        0
        Everyone sees what he wants to see and believes in what he wants to believe.
    2. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 11: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Lakkuchu
      They were wearing the attributes of one of the teams. “They approached the Sports Palace“ on a march ”, lining up in a column of three people, singing the song“ Wonderful skinhead ”and shouting slogans of a nationalistic character -“ Russia for Russians ”. After we approached the two sitting guys. First they beat a Rostovite who managed to break free and escape, and then overtook a 19-year-old Turk and struck several times with a “rose” and a knife, from which the young man died ”

      Yes, there can’t be ... the Turk killed himself .. went to the fans peacefully discussing the technique of goalkeeper Dasaev and began to look into their eyes all and say you fans are all weak and I'm strong ... and then I pulled out a rose and began to be myself in saying chest is how strong I am and you are not fans ... after which the fans called an ambulance and quickly take the Turk to the hospital ...
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 24 October 2013 14: 43 New
        0
        You won't believe "mom clanus yes" wassat
  • Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 24 October 2013 11: 04 New
    +2
    This is also fiction - The Moscow City Court on Tuesday sentenced six skinheads to imprisonment of eight to 19 years for attacks and murder motivated by national hatred, the RAPSI said in court.
    The first murder, according to the materials of the investigation, the defendants committed in October 2009, attacking a citizen of Armenia near the Belyaevo metro station. He received numerous punches and kicks and then at least 11 stabs. The victim died from massive blood loss. A sports bag and 4 thousand rubles were stolen from him. In March 2010, the defendants on the train on the stretch between the Veshnyaki and Plyushchevo stations attacked a man who, in their opinion, had obvious outward signs of an Asian ethnicity. One of them sprayed a can of gas into his face, then the victim was beaten, stabbed three times in the head, neck and back, after which the attackers fled the scene.
    In April 2010, the defendants met near the Konkovo ​​metro station and attacked an Arab native with the intention of killing him. According to the prosecution, they inflicted at least 27 knife strikes on their victim, but the victim managed to escape and escape. He was saved thanks to the timely medical assistance provided.

    RIA News
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 24 October 2013 11: 11 New
      +5
      Give a summary of the Stavropol Territory? Murder is always and under all circumstances BAD. But it’s not necessary to say that we are furry and skinheads (I haven’t seen them for about five years) are not allowed. Skins were transplanted for a long time. Anyway. Just why are you posting this? I can bring a dozen and a half in a week only in our region, and what? Does this prove something?
      The article is clearly aimed at fueling discord. And all are underway. This article appeared posty immediately after the well-known events and walks through the DIFFERENT portals I read about two days ago or so. There could have been a crime, no one is arguing, but here's how to file the hamsters? ...
  • Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 24 October 2013 11: 10 New
    +1
    Well, this is certainly fantastic. - In the Moscow City Court, during the consideration of the third criminal case against the leaders of the "skinhead" group Artur Ryno and Pavel Skachevsky, the defendants pleaded guilty to murder motivated by ethnic hatred. Members of the group, which the press called the "Ryno-Skachevsky gang" were accused of numerous murders and attempts on ethnic grounds in Moscow.
    According to the investigation, from August 2006 to October 2007 they killed xnumx people, 12 more were injured: they came from the former Soviet republics of the Asian and Caucasian regions. The indictment emphasizes that Ryno and Skachevsky are charged with murder as part of an organized group motivated by racial hatred and hostility with particular cruelty.
    In this - the third - criminal case, we are talking about the murder in April 2007 of a 37-year-old man on Bolshaya Cherkizovskaya Street. According to the investigation, the crime was committed on the basis of racial hostility.

    These are just a few cases. Many people know about them? Only one gang killed 20 !!! person.
    1. EGORKA
      EGORKA 24 October 2013 11: 27 New
      +3
      You do not seem to be catching up) what does it have to do with it? Now, if such cases were hushed up, then another matter, and then everything is according to the law. Natsykov does not deny the problem, they are struggling with it as they could, if this had not been from the Caucasus, Moscow would not have been blown up.
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 24 October 2013 11: 38 New
    +4
    Quote: Lakkuchu
    Everyone sees what he wants to see and believes in what he wants to believe.


    This concerns you no less, too. All these nazi manifestations are precisely promoted by the behavior of Caucasians in Russia, so you should not shift this whole problem to the Russians, "you" are no less to blame for this, your defiant behavior, this a kind of manifestation of nationalism, it is inherent in the Caucasians no less, and the Russian Natsyks and the Caucasian, all this provokes.
    But your posts are not related to this case, they in no way confirm what is described in the article.
  • Forest
    Forest 24 October 2013 11: 39 New
    +1
    By the way, this case reminds: "The Chechens cut their own hands by themselves" http://maxpark.com/community/4797/content/1591579
  • Forest
    Forest 24 October 2013 11: 39 New
    0
    By the way, this case reminds: "The Chechens cut their own hands by themselves" http://maxpark.com/community/4797/content/1591579
  • Ddhal
    Ddhal 24 October 2013 11: 44 New
    +1
    The article is far from straightforward.
    Objectively reasoning, any person, being a participant in certain events, interprets those indicated from his point of view. Always, and regardless of nationality. As well as the investigating side perceives these explanations in accordance with their level of perception, experience and intelligence.
    Here we saw a version of one side of the conflict, the reliability of which everyone perceives in his own way.
    Worse, in the comments I saw the development of a quarrel between the "flags" of different colors.
    Yes, everyone has their own opinion, but think about who causes more sympathy - a crying child or a teasing peer? For further evil memory will be included, a very bad motivator in human relations.
    The most difficult thing in this life, from personal experience - to force yourself to calm down when offended and anger overwhelms. But when it turns out, you are proud of yourself and you feel that you have become a little wiser.
  • Maximus-xnumx
    Maximus-xnumx 24 October 2013 12: 29 New
    +7
    To analyze such information is, as they say, not a field to switch. There was a place for everyone here: a graduate of a Moscow “international academic” university, a Chechen, a Tajik driver, an Azerbaijani taxi driver, an Armenian doctor. As they say, everything is mixed up ... In Moscow ... It is noteworthy that this story was literally taken away on social networks with the main aim that the majority of visitors (from the south) in Moscow are peaceful and cultural people, and you know, Muscovites themselves go to the public transport with knives, infidels of the Gentiles and cut them in the throat “from ear to ear”, then “vile” Armenian doctors refuse to properly treat the injured Muslims and literally take them off from hospital beds ...
    And this Chechen man of what nationality cut ?? Maybe his countryman ??? The article said the posier. In general, the story is somehow muddy ...
    1. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 12: 40 New
      -3
      Quote: Maximus-22
      And this Chechen man of what nationality cut ?? Maybe his countryman ???

      no, he stabbed himself ... and then, after a preliminary conspiracy with a Tajik and an Azerbaijani, they decided to blame everything on a nice couple of a guy and a girl who were traveling peacefully in gazelles ... they had such an intention ... which is not clear ...
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 24 October 2013 12: 49 New
        +3
        Very smart! Again, it's “cool” when, literally, “the driver was injured incompatible with life as a result of falling onto a sharp object (a witness's knife) from a height of his own height”. It was a couple of years ago in St. Petersburg when two Chechens quarreled with a Russian on the road. Who got the injury understandably? And we wouldn't even start a business. As soon as we have rallies in the city went - so immediately the riot police are doing everything. "This is not a national enmity" is an everyday thing, well, it's funny. Let's not be a hypocrite? On both sides ... It is necessary to decide! How to live and what to do ...
        1. Ali-gurg
          Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 12: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: klimpopov
          Let's not be a hypocrite? On both sides ... It is necessary to decide! How to live and what to do ...

          I completely agree with this ... Let's call a spade a spade. If you don’t stop now, the day is not far off when, as in January 1933, another madman will come to power ...
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 24 October 2013 13: 48 New
            +2
            when in January 1933 of the year another madman comes to power ...

            Again, we will not hang labels either. An assessment of the activity of the "madman" is also yet to come. It cannot be viewed in just one way. The "madman" was counting on many moves, and we look at the activity through the prism of almost 70 years.
            And yet with 1933 we will count back 16 years and think ...
            And yes, look at your teenage child, see what he reads, what he does, maybe the trouble has already come. Obvious things, I know, but they need to be repeated. Children are only a consequence of parenting and society ...
            If you don’t stop now

            No one will stop. Everyone on both sides wants blood, no one thinks, the authorities somehow try to hush it all up because it will fly first, but they started the flywheel ...
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 24 October 2013 14: 15 New
              0
              By the way, the "crazy" was a Georgian, but this is by the way.
              1. kaktus
                kaktus 24 October 2013 19: 04 New
                0
                it was a georgian in the USSR
                But in Germany?
                and what did it lead to?
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 24 October 2013 12: 43 New
      +2
      Don't you see targeted provocations? And it had an effect on the majority! You go to the thread of the national forum. Nobody is going to think. And Biryulev's provocation! Does anyone remember about our city? And the name of the guy who was stabbed then? Here I am about that. Then everything was quickly hushed up. And here is a purposeful multi-stage planned action, the purpose of which is enmity inside, now we still remember the number of "beards" in our territory and beyond. Can you imagine what this is all about? I am. The prospect, I can tell you, is unpromising for Russia.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 24 October 2013 13: 09 New
        -2
        Quote: klimpopov
        Don't you see targeted provocations? And it had an effect on the majority! You go to the thread of the national forum. Nobody is going to think. And Biryulev's provocation! Does anyone remember about our city? And the name of the guy who was stabbed then? Here I am about that. Then everything was quickly hushed up. And here is a purposeful multi-stage planned action, the purpose of which is enmity inside, now we still remember the number of "beards" in our territory and beyond. Can you imagine what this is all about? I am. The prospect, I can tell you, is unpromising for Russia.


        1. 225chay
          225chay 24 October 2013 14: 20 New
          +2
          Quote: Boris55
          Can you imagine that all this is failing? I am. Perspective, I will tell you unpromising for Russia.

          And the world’s dark forces direct her by the way, well-known ...
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 24 October 2013 15: 25 New
          0
          Does the guy want to convince us that the artificial flooding of Russia with Muslim migrants is aimed at fighting Islam? Why is he so worried about the "de-Islamization" and "withdrawal of the Koran" in Russia?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 24 October 2013 21: 02 New
            -1
            Quote: Uncle
            Does the guy want to convince us that the artificial flood of Russia by Muslim migrants is aimed at combating Islam?


            Isn’t that so? Does the flood of Russian cities by Muslim migrants not lead to a negative perception of them by the Russians? Read the forum.

            Quote: Uncle
            Why is he so worried about the de-Islamization and seizure of the Koran in Russia?


            Yes, because before the de-Islamization and seizure of the Koran, not only in Russia, a lot of blood will be shed on both sides. They are for Allah. You are for Christ and to the last believer ...
  • saygon66
    saygon66 24 October 2013 12: 49 New
    +1
    .... - Home is best!
  • Lesnik
    Lesnik 24 October 2013 13: 06 New
    +9
    But in fact, it was like this:
    In one Kingdom, a distant state, a Chechen botanist (well, you know, you have seen such people more than once on the street - well, these in glasses with thick lenses, with a pile of textbooks on theoretical mechanics), unfortunately, went into a minibus, and somehow he liked it there, the driver was friendly such in pure Russian speaks to him in a human voice "send a daraga guest wake up tea, pour pies to feed and ddeneg I won't mind" well, it appears he came in, he sat down for tea drinking intellectual conversations talking with the driver. And then, to his misfortune, a brutal Russian walks into the minibus (who just slaughtered sheep at his obscurantist holiday) and begins to vilify all intellectuals with obscene words. Well, the Chechen botanist appears to have moved to the far corner of the salon so as not to heat up the situation, so to speak. But it was not there! At the next stop, a Slavic woman bursts in and begins to dirtyly pester the Chechen botanist, "Take me right here in an unnatural way," and our poor boy, the Chechen botanist, turns red and turns pale from such proposals shaking does not know where it is meant to flee from such misfortune. And then a brutal Russian enters the scene, who had previously been lying in the aisle drunk and muttering obscene ditties about the Chechens and saying "How dare you stinker refuse this nymph to satisfy her lust" and bet him with his sword several times.
    Here and the tale is over and who listened well done wassat
    1. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 13: 09 New
      +2
      Ai maladtsa ah yes forester ah yes s ... son laughing
    2. DZ_98_B
      DZ_98_B 24 October 2013 18: 05 New
      +1
      INTERESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    3. alone
      alone 24 October 2013 20: 41 New
      +2
      After reading the fairy tale, the Grimm brothers hanged themselves, but Hans-Christian Andersen vowed not to write fairy tales anymore, and from boredom he shot himself with parabellum bully
  • Support
    Support 24 October 2013 13: 07 New
    +1
    One summer evening I walked .... no matter where, I just walked with a crossbow (Black Python) on my shoulder. With an optical sight. Without a case. I'm going to myself, I'm going. And we have enough gaster in the city. All stripes. This time some of the Mongoloid race were caught. They walked in a small crowd. To meet. About 20 meters before me, they drew attention to the thing in my hands. Shut up. When I was left about 2 meters, I decided to pin up - showed a palm edge on the neck. It was interesting - the eyes were narrow, but then they suddenly became round. Everyone has. It became funny. Silently passed by, even as it was wary. But I did not look back, walked and walked to myself. But I remembered that such eyes so sharply become round, I would not have believed if I had not seen.
    1. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 24 October 2013 13: 11 New
      +2
      Seriously? Well, there are no words then you are just a hero ... you are cool there is no doubt ... you can continue to play counter strike ...
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 24 October 2013 13: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: Prop
        One summer evening I walked .... no matter where, just walked with a crossbow

        It was necessary to start with the word: "It was getting dark"
        Quote: Prop
        caught some of the Mongoloid race

        Were they definitely without bows?
  • Support
    Support 24 October 2013 13: 35 New
    +1
    Yes, I went home to Corefan. The crossbow was carrying him. He (a crossbow - a schnapper) can shoot with steel balls. So we shoot at the plastic bottles. And why on foot, so from the final bus to his house. And there are hostels of Spetsstroy. Here they shy away. This all happened in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky this summer. I live here.
    1. EGORKA
      EGORKA 24 October 2013 13: 41 New
      +1
      And what side do your observations relate to this article?
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 24 October 2013 13: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: EGORKA
        Yes, I went home to Corefan. The crossbow carried him

        Quote: Prop
        This all happened in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky this summer. I live here.

        Ah, well now it’s clear!
        Damn, it all started. laughing
    2. de_monSher
      de_monSher 24 October 2013 14: 14 New
      0
      In Tashkent, you would have been bent for this crossbow, and in a rude form in this position, would have been raped for 9 years in distant and very unpleasant places. Two 5.45 cartridges were found in a pocket of a distant acquaintance, and I picked it up at the training ground, and they soldered one year after the cartridge. They do not stand on ceremony for edged weapons - they are very severely punished.

      You yourself, damn it, paint passion-Mardasti. Any freak = I hope you are not like that, and you know when you can use weapons, when not - there is a culture of weapons, I hope you = you can use a pancake with weapons, walk around. What do you want something?
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 24 October 2013 14: 49 New
        +2
        With us, you can also get five years for a cartridge. And it’s possible to ride in a car in a car and nothing will happen.
        1. de_monSher
          de_monSher 24 October 2013 15: 10 New
          +1
          And it’s possible to ride in a car in a car and nothing will happen.


          For Kalash in Uzbekistan, they will immediately shoot. And they’ll do it right.

          I just remember the times, the 94th is the same. When in the cop academy, only officers stood in the outfit and the guards. When I saw it a bit, the question immediately arose - "but with a fig ?! Where are the cadets ?!" But then Brother = he himself graduated from the school in Ordzhonekidze, and, damn it, he tricked me - he went to the cops. How angry my Father was at him! =, Took me to the parade ground, showed the cadets and grit - "You look at these faces. Do you think they can be trusted with military weapons?" I looked and agreed - "It is impossible". Thank God, everything leveled off by the beginning of the century.
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 24 October 2013 15: 19 New
            +1
            Well, God willing that would be aligned, sincerely wish. It's just that our law is NOT the same for everyone. They will charge me for two rounds (maybe not mine), but someone shoots people in taverns and nothing happens for it. Mayhem however.
            I can not say anything about Central Asia and Tashkent because I do not know and have not met. But I can tell a lot about local peoples.
  • Support
    Support 24 October 2013 13: 46 New
    +1
    You can’t walk alone without weapons today .....
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 24 October 2013 13: 49 New
    +2
    I would believe it, of course everything happened much more banal as it seems to me, if it were not for the fact that the Chechens were kicked in the representation of Chechnya and in general the diaspora did not seem to react to this at all. As for the indifference and inattention of the doctors, as well as the police not of our duties, then in our time it’s not uncommon, and a Russian and a person of a different nationality could be in the place of a Chechen, similar in our country is not uncommon because the local authorities do not work properly.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 24 October 2013 14: 01 New
      +1
      About not helping. Come to a Moscow hospital to visit a traumatology department ... You can just as well bypass the "intermediary" in the morgue ... My grandfather with a temperature of 40 soon refused to hospitalize a WEEK (all Russians).
      1. EGORKA
        EGORKA 24 October 2013 14: 09 New
        +1
        And I’m talking about this too, but the diasporas usually don’t leave their own, and here the wounded, is there a witness that it was just worth starting a business?
        There are a lot of questions
  • Support
    Support 24 October 2013 13: 54 New
    +3
    Interestingly, how many people go with knives and are so easily put to use if there is one? From the Slavs?
  • IslamMoyReligion
    IslamMoyReligion 24 October 2013 14: 07 New
    0
    What does the "Muslim communist" have to do with it?
    1. Lesnik
      Lesnik 24 October 2013 14: 10 New
      0
      A stupid neighing wassat
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 24 October 2013 14: 50 New
      +2
      For a riot of colors.
  • Platov
    Platov 24 October 2013 14: 27 New
    0
    A wolf in sheep’s clothing no matter how much he feeds, he looks into the forest.
  • Uncle
    Uncle 24 October 2013 15: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: klimpopov
    The so-called "tagil"

    And even cooler is Nizhny Tagil laughing
  • samoletil18
    samoletil18 24 October 2013 15: 31 New
    +1
    Most likely, this could be so. First, the driver insulted the girl. She sat silently. The Chechen began to molest and drag her. Some normal guy stood up for the girl. The Chechen took out a knife and began to threaten. A normal guy grabbed a knife from him and, not particularly bothering, ran a Chechen up his throat. Most likely, the Chechen girl got across 200m from a taxi, where there is a ogreb.
    somewhat messy, but I tried briefly in essence. In general, if there is any accident with the participation of foreign guests, for example, then there are many witnesses on the side of the guest, and the same ethnic group. And as always, they accidentally strolled in this place at 3 a.m., living on the other side of the city. But, most importantly, the cops are hawking - figs bother.
    1. Lesnik
      Lesnik 24 October 2013 16: 12 New
      0
      I already covered this issue and brought the OFFICIAL version of what happened.
      I’m part-time at the policia press center laughing
  • Jarik56
    Jarik56 24 October 2013 17: 43 New
    +3
    Gentlemen, you noticed that they divide not only (and not so much) into nations, but contrast Christians Yagubyan, Kashaev, Platonov with Muslims (figs with their names). The trend is alarming ...
  • Kir
    Kir 24 October 2013 18: 20 New
    +3
    By the way, why are the parents of the dugout the Chechen Republic representative kicked off? Maybe you should delve into his past-victim and his family? Yes, and to clarify the diagnosis, given the fact that it has risen on social networks, it’s clear that these people will not be satisfied with the version that does not properly cover the events, But the authorities do not just have to, but rather are obliged to notify the population about the real situation, and after that judge how why this happened.
    By the way, there was a relatively recent interview in Russia1 of the head of Chechnya, so he actually said correctly about those who flashed here - (in his own words) think a lot about himself, and their cousins ​​are clearly not simple either.
    And honestly this "ethno vinaigrette" - the victim + witnesses, let's say, is a rare combination of those whom we have recently "loved" so much, and the initiation of the case on the recommendation is also interesting, after what "weighty reasons" and from whom they initiated business.
    In short, Ours (it’s not only ethnically Russian, but all those for whom RUSSIA IS NOT ONLY TERRITORY OF BIRTH AND RESIDENCE, BUT WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT — DESTINY !!!) should make every possible contribution to an objective investigation of this and the previous case, and generally to abate before the conclusions, and those who will speculate on this to the answer regardless of personalities, down to the criminal article.