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"Over the course of our lives, Americans can unleash a big war."

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The books of the famous historian and writer Nikolai Starikov, one way or another, are the "anthem" of England and the USA, their cunning, impudence and achievements. According to Starikov, England constantly pushed her rivals - the continental countries of Europe, defeated her enemies with other hands, immediately took up friends and the curtain of wars with the help of the mighty fleet selected foreign colonies and created its own - America, India, the countries of Africa and the Persian Gulf. Today, the experience of Great Britain repeats America. What will come of this? What awaits the world? And what should Russia do? Nikolay Starikov spoke about this in response to questions from our readers and the Znak.com editorial staff.


“Today the colonies of Great Britain are the whole world”

- Nikolai Viktorovich, during World War II, in exchange for military supplies, England gave almost all of its gold reserves to America, and after the war, Great Britain as an empire fell apart. What is the role of London today in the system of international relations? Still the main - or secondary and subordinate? Do the United States and Britain have fundamental contradictions or do they "play the same tune"?

- If you will describe history football, then by all means tell about the Brazilian national team. If you tell the history of hockey, your story will begin with victories of the Canadian and Soviet teams, you will not avoid mentioning the teams of Czechoslovakia and Sweden, at a certain stage the Finnish team will join them and so on. What is it about? The fact that in any sport has its recognized leaders. Similarly, in a political game that has been going on for several centuries, there are winners and outsiders. And my books are not an “ode” to any country or group of people. This is a statement of facts that have developed over the past three centuries. And the facts are that the UK, managed by bankers - the owners of the Bank of England and later - the Federal Reserve System, in other words - the world "banking backstage", more than others achieved success in formatting the geopolitical space.

Did they have a solid success? Not. Winning tactical battles, they constantly lost strategically and several times over the centuries were on the verge of death. And only a combination of circumstances helped them survive. I mean the situation of 1941 year, when Hitler drove the British to the islands and could very well end their power. The situation of 50-ies, when they were defeated after defeat on the world stage, driven out of Asia, where the Communists won in China, Vietnam, and the Americans, the closest partners of the British, at the same time had to chase from the Philippines, from Indonesia and so on . You can recall the beginning of 80-x, when the Soviet Union won the economic race.

As for today's relations between Great Britain and the United States, I must say that the Anglo-Saxons constantly absorbed various nations and states into their orbit, deprived them of their sovereignty and forced them to act in their own interests. Including the United States, which at one time broke away from Great Britain, but then was again put under the "banners of the queen." It happened at the time of the creation of the Federal Reserve System (in 1913, on the eve of the First World War, which resulted in the disappearance of the four largest monarchies in Europe - Russian, German, Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman, and the British reached the peak of their power - ed.) . And today, the United States is such a big body, with the help of which bankers bring order in the world to them. At the same time, the control structures, the brain, in my opinion, are far from being in the USA. (In general, it seems to me that the words “USA” and “brain” do not really fit in with each other). Talking about the fact that Great Britain as a world power has broken up is deeply erroneous. She just formally released the freedom of the colony. Today, the colonies of Great Britain are a whole world; the British see their function as a world hegemon in this way.

- Judging by your books, England constantly bought "friends", their fleets and armies to fight with their enemies. Where did she have so much money?

- I wrote about this in one of my books “The nationalization of the ruble is the path to the freedom of Russia”. The invention of the bankers was that they began to issue money without tying them to the real wealth, which at that time - in 1694 (the date of creation of the Bank of England - Ed.) - were gold and silver. They began to draw money, create it out of thin air, in the form of paper notes of the Bank of England. With these IOUs, they paid for their “contractors”. Gradually, the British were in a very difficult financial situation, and if not for the defeat of Napoleon, they could go bankrupt and turn into a secondary state. But they managed to carry out a coup d'état in the Russian Empire, kill the conspirators Paul the First and completely change the situation when two continental powers - Russia and France - jointly opposed the sea giant of that time - England. And she slipped along the razor's edge, a hair from death. I consider the details of the murder of Paul in my book “Geopolitics. How it's done".

- You tell that England was behind the deaths of many Russian rulers - not only Paul the First, but Peter the Great, Catherine the First, Peter the Third, Alexander the Second, Alexander the Third, Nicholas the Second. Are these assumptions or are there any documents that allow making such conclusions?

- There are documents. The fact that the British killed Paul I, at the moment - a proven historical fact. You can find these facts, for example, in the writings of the founder of geopolitics, American admiral Mahan - he tells in detail how things were, what anti-British steps the Russian emperor took and what could have led to this. When the Russian tsar was killed, the situation changed diametrically. As for the shooting of the family of Nicholas II, it is known that the UK refused to accept it, simulating the situation so that the Romanovs did not get out alive outside Russia.

If we talk about the murder of Alexander the Third, then logic works here. Those who killed his father, Alexander II, received money from the UK, and the plans of these Popular Democrats were absolutely comparable with the plans of the Stalinist Trotskyites or today's belolentochnikov: the dismemberment of Russia, the loss of entire territories. If we study the facts and understand who would benefit at one time or another, the death of a Russian ruler, it turns out that there are not so many beneficiaries. And there is always an external force that does not like strong, resolute, strong-willed Russian rulers.

Russia began to struggle from the very moment when it became a dangerous competitor. Prior to this, the United Kingdom fought in the same way with other competitors — Spain, France. And won. If she had lost, with the ambitions of Peter the Great and the Russian emperors following him would have fought from Paris.

- You really write that London has always been the refuge of the enemies of Russia — the fugitive revolutionaries (Herzen, Lenin), the source and sponsor of the revolutionary contagion (the Decembrists, the People of the Volga, the Bolsheviks, Trotsky). Nowadays, London welcomes the runaway Russian oligarchs. Does England continue to create revolutionary bacteria and distribute them in Russia today? Please name the names of today's Russian revolutionaries raised by England.

- It is difficult for me to separate the revolutionaries grown by England from the revolutionaries grown by her American colleagues. For Russia, these microbes are equally harmful, I do not think that they should be divided into species. Need "antibiotics" to destroy all at once. Do they act today? Yes. Example literally from a tape News: in Moscow and St. Petersburg, emissaries of the Hizb ut-Tahrir terrorist organization were detained, who delivered sermons directly in mosques, addressing Muslims living in Russia, guest workers, calling for, to put it mildly, illegal actions. See where the Hizb ut-Tahrir headquarters is located. In London. Where does this organization come from to call for jihad, to train terrorists, and in the long term - the Islamic revolution in Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan? From saudi arabia? Maybe. But do you really admit that Saudi Arabia, and even less so a tiny state like Qatar, are international players? So that they convince their British partners not to notice the headquarters of a terrorist organization very similar to al-Qaeda on their territory. As soon as you ask yourself about it, everything will become obvious. So when we talk about revolutionaries, we don’t need to think only about Alexei Navalny. Look wider. They sponsor everyone who can destroy their rivals in the long run, sponsor even their potential enemies. As was the case with Hitler, through whom they thought to control the German war machine, hoping that it would not fall on England.

"Over the course of our lives, Americans can unleash a big war."

"The governing structures, the brain is far from being in the USA"

- The thought runs through your work: almost any anti-government speech in Russia is inspired by its ill-wishers, primarily the UK, in order to “educate [the Russians] hatred of their state.” You adhere to the same idea when you talk about the “swamp opposition”. Have the Russian orders always been so good, and the leaders so clever, fair and just, that the protest grew artificially, from somewhere from abroad? Do you think that the subjects of the Russian Empire, the USSR and the Russian Federation did not have and there are no compelling reasons to protest? Why do you not admit that a revolution in our country is an objective straightening of the spring, which was compressed during times of political reaction?

- I do not know the countries that have never had problems, at the head of which have always stood the worthiest and smartest people. Maybe it is the Greeks impoverished today? Or the Americans, some of whom are besieged by the manifestations of Wall Street? Or the Spaniards, whose 25% do not have a job and for the time being, but only so far, can still feed the European Union? There are always problems, with everyone, in any society, under any authority. They were under Nicholas II, under Lenin and under Stalin. Objective problems are sometimes aggravated by situational components like war, famine, natural disasters, as well as the stupidity of some leaders. But without external influence on these natural problems, there have never been any revolutions, with the possible exception of Cuban, in the world.

What has changed in Russia between 1913 and 1917 years? Yes, the war with millions of victims. But this does not mean that in Russia in 1917, they starved more than in Germany, in France or in the United Kingdom. Moreover, cards in the UK and in France appeared earlier than in Russia. Our cards were introduced by the Provisional Government. It was this that turned on the printing press, allowed the ruble to fall, its solvency, and destroyed the country's economy. All the trials came after the February Revolution, not before it, and were the result of the revolution, not its causes. And if we study the mechanism of this revolution, it turns out that the conspirators went to the very same British embassy, ​​which the leaders of the “swamp opposition” are going to today.

Imagine: if today in the World Cup the price of a loss would be the same as in the ball game of the ancient Maya? When the captain of the team of losers, or even the whole team was dragged to the pyramid and sacrificed. Probably, then the management of a rival team would try with all their might to prevent an intelligent coach from their opponents, but on the contrary, would push the confused coach. It would cause chaos, quarrel between other players, in order to simply survive. This must be understood: geopolitics are not abstract chess games of highbrow intellectuals, it is a way of survival of civilizations and peoples, when all means are good, including revolutions. There are always problems, but a revolution occurs when gasoline is poured into this fire from abroad.

Look closely: in the US, no one is trying to bring about a revolution; No matter how tight and no matter how many demonstrators go to occupy Wall Street, there will be no revolution. And London rioters who smash shops and fight with the police, no one taught to raise posters: "Down with the bloody regime of the queen!". Therefore, there everything is limited to ordinary hooligan actions.

"Talking about remorse of American politicians is naive and ridiculous"

- Nikolai Viktorovich, you are convincingly writing that the US Federal Reserve, owned by individuals, is almost uncontrollably printing dollars that are not backed by gold. On this paper, the army and the navy are being built, wars are being fought, resources are being bought all over the world, pro-American regimes are being created. And who owns the Fed? Who exactly is the “master of the world”?

- It seems to me that the matter is not in the names, they do not interest me. The fact is that we know which organizations really control world politics.

- We learn from your books, that in due time, in order to raise the demand for dollars and get out of the crisis, the USA made huge investments in China. China has become a global factory, and America is the main market for Chinese products. Then came the turn of the dollarization of Russia. Who will be the next victim? Are there still weak countries in the world with cheap labor and rich natural resources?

- I think that the next victim would have become Mars and Jupiter, if there was life. Then the aliens would be explained that they only need to drink Coca-Cola, buy only green pieces of paper with portraits of American presidents and build only multi-party democracy. But there is one small problem - life on Mars has not yet been found, which means there is no place to merge American debt securities. On Earth, further inflate the economic bubble, which created the United States, for a long time nowhere. On our planet, this bubble covers almost the entire life. And North Korea’s dollarization will prolong the life of the agonizing system of minutes on 15, it’s like an elephant’s grain. Another thing is the Soviet Union and the entire socialist world, which was swallowed up by the Americans in the 90-s.


"There is nowhere to inflate the economic bubble that the United States has created"

- America, whose external debts have gone too far beyond the annual GDP, is faced with a growing distrust of the dollar. The states, forced by the pressure of the American military power to buy dollars as an international unit of account and support the demand for them (Russia does that), are increasingly thinking about creating other world currencies to trade with each other. Do you think America is capable of unleashing new wars in order to provoke a flight of world capital into a dollar against this background?

“I think instead of searching for life outside our Universe, Americans, being practical people, will really choose the option of starting a big war that can solve the big problems of a big financial system. No bombing of a single Libya will solve anything for Americans. It will turn out in the USA or not, we will see, probably, during our life. In this case, America will not fight itself. According to all previous scenarios, it must either stand aside or enter the fray at the very last moment, as it was during World War I and how it happened to World War II to a certain extent. Especially since the combat capability of the American army today rests only on the “good old” Anglo-Saxon principle: they are brave and warlike, only when they have machine guns, and those who oppose them have spears. In the same way as the British shot defenseless Zulus, today the Americans are trying to throw rockets at the state, which can not answer.

- Is it possible for America to use nuclear weapons?

- It is problematic to use nuclear weapons, for example, against the “bloody regime” of Bashar al-Assad, because they will have to explain to the whole world what kind of Syrians they have defended from Al-Assad if they have reduced all Syrians to ashes with a single nuclear strike. It is unlikely that they could explain this strange situation. Therefore, they cannot deliver a nuclear attack on small states. If such a blow is dealt to large states, there is a risk of getting "in the opposite direction". Therefore, I would not take nuclear weapons into account when analyzing dangers and risks for our state. This is like honey in Winnie the Pooh: he seems to be there, but he is not there. But if we are so stupid and naive that we disarm or allow the Americans to build a missile defense system like a clock, then, of course, they will be able to strike a nuclear strike on us. Talking about the remorse of conscience among American politicians is naive and ridiculous. For those who have forgotten: the United States already used nuclear weapons in 1945.

"In the spiritual realm, we definitely do not need any modernization."

- Recently, in an interview with Znak.com, your associate in the Izborsk club, economist Mikhail Khazin, said that the World Bank and the IMF plan to further strengthen the position of the dollar, the Rothschilds opposing them - for creating new world currencies; the liberal part of the Russian elite (Voloshin, Chubais, Medvedev) - for the IMF and globalization, the Putinists - for the Rothschilds and Russia's economic independence; between these groups is a struggle for power. Do you share such a picture?

- As I said, I would not use in vain the names of the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers and other hired managers, including Russian ones. It is, in principle, about leaving the world financial system in its present form or transforming it. Of course, there are forces that would like to maintain the status quo by unleashing a mass of regional and major international conflict. There are also "pigeons" who agree to change the current financial configuration of the world in order, on the contrary, to avoid war. In this sense, the most expedient way is to expand the list of reserve currencies at the expense of the yuan and the ruble. Here I agree with Mikhail Khazin.

- That year we hear: modernization, modernization. But you can upgrade in different ways. You can take everything away from everyone, put them in camps and modernize - quickly and cheaply - at the expense of cheap and obedient workmen. You can create an attractive investment climate, protect private property, improve the work of security forces and courts, reduce the state’s presence in the economy and the state apparatus itself, develop federalism (Medvedev wrote about it in his recent article in Vedomosti), democratizing the political system. What do you think, which option will Putin choose?

- The reader asking this question, it seems to me, is not quite familiar with the policy of our "partners." Here are the measures that the reader gave with a minus sign in China are not implemented? And what measures, which the reader gave with a plus sign, are implemented in China? Is the Chinese economy developing? Or is everyone waiting for China to improve the investment climate? Maybe investors will come to China only after the appearance of a dozen of various parties there? Maybe, in protest against the harassment of unconventional sexual minorities and shootings at corrupt stadiums, investors will close their factories in China? For some reason it seems to me that they will simply turn off the channel of Chinese television, which is broadcast live this broadcast.

You do not need to think that the capitalists have any principles, - Karl Marx spoke very well about this. There is only a desire to earn as soon as possible and as much as possible, that's all. Maybe they are inactive go to Russia, because the system, built with us, does not give them such an opportunity? After all, what is today's investor? Is he building a factory? No, he buys some stocks, hoping to resell them later for profit. Simply put, it is a parasite that does not create anything. And we need those investors who are not going to play on the stock exchange (because everything is virtual and has no relation to real life), but to build factories and bring new technologies here. In different areas. For example, in the field of mining. As Germany did, which transferred gas to the USSR in exchange for gas, which were not produced in the Soviet Union - this was the way the famous pipeline to Europe was built in the 70s of the last century.

Further, it is impossible to demand the development of the economy, as in China, while maintaining the situation in the political sphere, which is still present in Russia. If you want the same economic growth rate as in China, the country should have the same order as in China. Including - in the political sphere. Then the order will be followed in the economy. In China, people are being shot for stealing a serious amount of state funds, which is why Chinese corrupt officials also flee to London and the United States, the same picture there. They only steal less than ours, and shoot them more often, and they are much less willing to repeat their “heroic way” in China than we do. There, on television, they talk not about inmates in London, not about how wonderful they are “prisoners of conscience”, but about people of labor. So let's first define what we want. You can not be a little pregnant. If we want to modify our economy in a short time and make it modern, then we must appropriately transform our political system, without this growth, as in China, is simply impossible.



"If you want Chinese economic growth, the political order should be the same"

- Will Putin, in principle, be engaged in modernization? He is a supporter of cautious steps, but decisive and operational measures are needed. Do you personally, Nikolai Viktorovich, have any hopes that the current generation of Russian leaders will restore order?

- The current generation of leaders of the country is already engaged in establishing order. But with a certain speed, which is fully consistent with the contradictory desires that are poured in our society. Any leader of the country should be guided by the opinion of his people. And he, the people, still wants results, as in China, and methods, as in today's Russia.

- It is obvious that the country, the state, the people who will show mankind how to overcome deadly diseases, hunger and thirst, how to escape from the oil curse and environmental threats, how to dramatically increase the exchange rate of goods and information will receive leadership in the world. Do you know any similar groundwork in Russia? Or are we already doomed only to pump raw materials in all directions?

- I risk not to please the reader who asked this question. I can write, perhaps, with a dozen of such beautiful phrases and sentences, this will have nothing to do with real life, with real politics. No political forces, no states are going to fight hunger and thirst on a global scale. And the sale of humanitarian agricultural aid is one of the means of subjugating the whole continents of the USA. No one in the world is going to move away from the “oil curse,” because it is control over oil resources that allows the Americans and the British to control entire nations.

Do not be naive. Russia's proposal to get rid of the "oil curse" smacks of a suicidal smell. Oil and gas is not only our wealth and wealth, it is our weapon. Does a dear reader really want to invent some piece that will allow Europe to be heated without the use of our resources? Then first let him find work for several million fellow citizens. I think they will listen with pleasure to his suggestions and thoughts about what they will do and how they will feed their families. I think they will also have a lot of "proposals" addressed to a person who expresses himself with such beautiful phrases, but does not want to realize the possible sad consequences of this "beauty."

- What, besides natural resources and the military machine, to which trillions of rubles are now being sent, can ensure Russia's competitiveness in the world?

- Answers should be sought, above all, in the spiritual realm. The coming century will definitely be the century of spirituality. Look: only Russia with its heightened sense of justice can take off her last shirt and break in half the last piece of bread. Only the Soviet Union built schools in Afghanistan and treated people (the Americans simply bombed and do not bother with any moral scruples). Except for us, no one in the world does this - because we have left the world for a while and are only now returning. And as long as we are in a state of weakness, no one will solve these problems.

But the universal moral degradation will lead to the fact that the people who have not lost their moral guidelines, will favorably differ from others. We already see: some two decades have passed, and against the background of Europe, Russia is not something that does not look somehow unattractive - on the contrary, every year it becomes more attractive. So, thinking about new industrialization, we should not forget about the preservation of our spiritual traditions, our foundations, our morality. Here in this area, we definitely do not need any modernization.

- Europe has long been torn between Britain and Russia. The most vivid examples are Napoleon and Hitler. Which of the European countries are included today in the "English club", and which - in the pro-Russian? Which of these “clubs” does Germany belong to - the heart of continental Europe?

- The pro-Russian club was called the “Warsaw Pact” and was dissolved by Mikhail Gorbachev. Unilaterally, without any need and without guarantees of the dissolution of NATO. This is the most real betrayal. The stupidity of such "crystal purity" in nature simply does not happen. Today, the pro-Russian club in Europe does not exist. Today, the club of countries united by common interests, with the participation of Russia is called BRICS, and we are the only European countries out there. Europe is focused on the one who is stronger. The strongest at the moment - the United States and the United Kingdom. When someone else becomes strong, and I hope that this will be Russia, the orientation of European states will change. There are no principles - there is one desire, like a woman: lean on a strong shoulder, that's all.

- How do you assess the reality of the bloc of Germany, Russia and China, when the first would be a source of technology and investment, the second - energy resources, the third - production and labor, and together they would “hold” practically all of Eurasia and Africa? Or are the countries listed too dependent on the United States?

- Today such a scheme is from the area of ​​good wishes, it is not yet possible. But who knows what configurations the world political system will take in ten years? Wait and see. In the world there have been the most bizarre political alliances - there would be corresponding prerequisites, for example, in the form of leaders in power.

- And if the USA and the West are so strong and powerful in general, maybe we should adopt their orders and be friends with them, and not with Syria and Iran?

“Maybe you didn’t notice, but we are already more than 20 years old, having adopted their orders and even tried to be friends with them.” But let me say that friendship is a process of non-resistance of the two sides. We wanted to be friends with the United States and Europe, maybe we still want to be friends. But from their side there is no such desire; they do not consider us equal to themselves. In this situation, it is possible to continue to implement their pseudo-values ​​in their own lives, destroy their industry in favor of the International Monetary Fund and carry out all sorts of reforms to reduce population, as we are constantly advised from there. But what's the point?

As for Syria, for centuries it has never been an ally of Russia, until 1946, this state was not physically, and only in Soviet times, Syria, yes, focused on the USSR. Today we were united by the actions of those with whom the dear reader is going to be friends. We are returning to the Middle East after the collapse of the Soviet Union, because what Americans are doing there directly threatens the security of not only Syria, but also our own security. We were united in Syria with a common danger.

If you do not want to be friends with Iran - for God's sake, but this will again lead to the fact that the United States will bring a pro-American regime there to power, which will bring down the price of oil, and you, dear reader, who wants to be friends with the US, will again be in a difficult situation. economic situation. Iran is one of the largest oil fields and the largest gas reserves. After gaining control over Iran, the West will be able, instead of buying gas from us, to bring down prices for it.

Thus, our friendship with Iran is not due to ideological intimacy, not religious principles, but a pragmatic desire to support the prices of the goods we trade in - gas and oil. In the world, politicians are generally friends based not on skin color or talk of freedom and fraternity, but of simple, understandable economic and geopolitical interests. I propose to pick up friends on the basis of common sense and certainly not to be friends with those who do not want to be friends with us.

Recall the situation with our diplomat in Holland. A meeting of the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa - ed.) Is being held in Bali; it is about expanding the authorized capital and the objectives of the Development Bank of these countries. And on the same day in the Netherlands, unknown people in camouflage beat up and handcuff a Russian diplomat. After all, this can not be just a "Dutch mess." No sane policeman will ever get involved with a diplomat, because he can be dismissed for such behavior, as he really quarrels between two states. Any sane policeman will call his boss and ask: what to do? This police chief will call the next boss. And so in any country. And if the police do not look at the diplomatic certificates, it means that they got the installation - come, beat, put our diplomat in the monkey house and make the most of the fun. The injured diplomat spoke on Russian television the other day. He has a big bruise under his eye! That is, "on the face" violation of all conceivable laws of diplomacy. This is a direct pressure on Russia, as they say, “classics of the genre”.

And what about the USA’s constant desire, without asking Russia, to deploy along its borders the antimissile system, allegedly against Iran’s missiles, which it does not have? And what about the regular US attempts to interfere in our internal affairs and finance the opposition? Do friends do that? Why should friendship always be at our expense? So let them first show their friendly attitude towards us in deed, and not in words. Only after this and we will go on friendship.
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  1. Denis
    Denis 22 October 2013 07: 38
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    What role does London play today in the system of international relations?
    Smarter than Starikov I can’t tell, I’ll try in short
    They are busy collecting political r ... rich or very smelly
    Once th ... don-run to london
    And his books are all point to point
    1. alekseyal
      alekseyal 22 October 2013 08: 52
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      Quote: Denis
      And his books are all point to point

      And N. Starikov is co-chairman of the Great Fatherland Party (Air Defense)

      Party program.
      Values ​​and Principles
      1. The citizenship of the Russian Federation guarantees political, economic and cultural conditions for the free development of all nations living on the territory of Russia, created and held together by the state-forming Russian people.
      2. Russia must protect its citizens, its economic, political and cultural interests anywhere in the world, based on the principles of state sovereignty and justice in relations between countries.
      3. The first duty and right of any citizen of the Russian Federation is to serve the Fatherland - each in its own place, each by virtue of its capabilities.
      4. The principle of social justice and the growth of the welfare of citizens should be decisive in the economic and social life of Russia.
      5. The people of Russia are the country's main wealth. Stimulating fertility and supporting the institution of the family at the state level, as the main value and the most important factor in the preservation and development of the state
      Objectives
      1. The restoration of full State (military, diplomatic, economic and cultural) sovereignty. The return of Russia to the number of leading and strongest powers in the world.
      2. The reunification of a single economic and political space within the framework of the Customs Union and the Eurasian Union.
      3. The return to the state of the role of the regulator of the economy.
      4. Stable growth in the well-being of the Russian people, based on their free labor, within the framework of a self-sufficient industrial innovation economy. Bridging the income gap between rich and poor.
      Methods
      1. The priority of national law over international. Restoration of financial sovereignty - the right of the government of the Russian Federation to the sovereign issue of its currency. Deprivation of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation independence from the state by changing the law.
      2. The exclusive right of the state to dispose of natural resources. Retention of ownership of the extracted resources in the hands of the state. Selling resources on the foreign and domestic markets for the national currency - rubles.
      3. A new program of industrialization and innovation in the manufacturing sector of the economy. State support for domestic producers and domestic science.
      4. A decent secured old age for every citizen of Russia, a pension not lower than the average salary in the region of residence. The state should take responsibility for the pension savings of citizens.
      5. A decisive fight against crime. Refusal of a moratorium on the death penalty for grave crimes: treason to the motherland, crimes against children, drug trafficking, terrorism, corruption (on a large scale). Confiscation of property of criminals for such crimes.
      6. The development of education and health on the principles of accessibility, free of charge and effectiveness in all types and forms. Raising the level of education of the people. Patriotic education of youth. The cessation of the introduction of Western educational methods.
      7. The formation and promotion of an ideology that supports patriotism, traditional and moral values ​​of the peoples of the Russian Federation, a healthy lifestyle.
      Prohibition of propaganda of family destruction, morality and religiosity, propaganda of profit at any cost.
      8. State support of all traditional religions of Russia.
      9. The state program of support, return and adaptation of compatriots who found themselves abroad after the collapse of the USSR.
      1. 528Obrp
        528Obrp 22 October 2013 09: 25
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        Quote: alekseyal
        And N. Starikov is co-chairman of the Great Fatherland Party (Air Defense)

        One thing I don’t understand is what to do with the “dead” generation without conscience and principles living “in this country”? But these are mainly young people, and young people determine the future of the country
        1. APES
          APES 22 October 2013 11: 24
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          No need to generalize.
          You need to work with youth, not even that - you just need to show them the dream. How can anyone be convinced of anything? Only by my own example.
          "Dead" young generation, without conscience and principles living "in this country" - it is strongly said.
          Let me ask you which generation you belong to and how you live “in this country”?
          Have you raised a son or daughter that “this country” can be proud of?
          1. 528Obrp
            528Obrp 22 October 2013 12: 18
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            Quote: APES
            Let me ask you which generation you belong to and how you live “in this country”?

            I have lived in my country for more than 50 years, the country of my ancestors, and I do not regret it a bit. I am proud of Russia and I passed this pride on to my child. And for those who live in "this country" I will say one thing "go out"! They don't fucking spoil the air here.
            I apologize if I was rude.

            PS
            Do not confuse the attitude to the ruling elite with the attitude to the homeland.
            1. APES
              APES 22 October 2013 12: 29
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              You did not answer the question.
              Who gave you the right to judge someone, all at once all together (“dead” young generation)?
              1. 528Obrp
                528Obrp 22 October 2013 12: 44
                +1
                I judge what I see. But I do not see a joyful picture:
                ignorance, contempt for others, unwillingness to work, drug addiction, prostitution, homosexuality and all this is reinforced by hatred of the motherland.
                I am not a judge, I am a witness. The story will be judged.
                And the fact that there are normal youth, letting zealous and dissatisfied - of course there is,
                but the exception only confirms the rule.
                IMHO
                1. APES
                  APES 22 October 2013 12: 55
                  +2
                  History is a fictional science that winners write.
                  God will judge.
                  You counted them all, got into everyone’s soul?
                  You see what you want to see and nothing more.
                  1. 528Obrp
                    528Obrp 22 October 2013 13: 03
                    +2
                    I think arguing further does not make sense.
                    Quote: APES
                    God will judge.

                    I am an atheist (yet .. damn I do not know for sure)
                    I will answer this way:
                    we see the same objective reality, but given to us in ! different! sensations
                    1. APES
                      APES 22 October 2013 13: 11
                      +3
                      I do not argue with you.
                      Simply, I wanted you to think:
                      The sin (sins) of the other person is both yours and mine.

                      P / S
                      Just in case: carefully say such things, but rather do not say at all, (Hula (denial) of Him is the worst sin, he does not say goodbye.)
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 22 October 2013 15: 02
            +2
            Quote: APES
            You need to work with youth, not even that - you just need to show them the dream.

            Unfortunately, the TNT and Pepper channels show them a dream. There are exceptions, but these are exceptions. You need to work with youth, but only in conjunction with a coherent government policy on this issue. In China, almost all talk shows were banned, explaining this by incompatibility with the cultural image of China. I am happy for you if you managed to raise a worthy son in the conditions of the current information genocide, but again, unfortunately, not every parent can afford this feat.
            1. Andrey Skokovsky
              Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 22: 39
              -1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Unfortunately, the TNT and Pepper channels show them a dream. There are exceptions, but these are exceptions. You need to work with youth, but only in conjunction with a coherent government policy on this issue. In China, almost all talk shows were banned, explaining this by incompatibility with the cultural image of China. I am happy for you if you managed to raise a worthy son in the conditions of the current information genocide, but again, unfortunately, not every parent can afford this feat.


              just throw the TV out of your life, anyway, there is nothing but the enemy channels, at the moment you won’t do anything else, and tomorrow we'll see ....
          3. Ulan
            Ulan 22 October 2013 17: 31
            +1
            I totally agree.
            Young people today are different. And I would say not as bad as some people think.
            Yes, the years of timelessness and brainwashing have done their dirty deed, but the line is not passed and not everything is lost, you need to work with young people and everything will pay off handsomely.
            Most are still quite adequate and not stupid guys.
            Well, as usual in the family is not without a freak.
            But even in the days of my youth there were enough of them. Nothing ... we will break through.
        2. rolik
          rolik 22 October 2013 12: 59
          +3
          Quote: 528Obrp
          One thing I don't understand what to do with the "dead" generation

          This generation I call Yeltsin. The bulk of the grown young with one single desire - to grab, without at the same time spending a gram of labor. breed someone, sit on the neck of ancestors. Here are his ideals. Although not all there, there are normal guys. Apparently genes are not so easy to drown out. Unfortunately, the minority is normal in this generation. and this is the fault of my generation, which was thrown into the pool of free business in the early 90's. he no longer cared about his children and the education of a normal human sprout in them. people fought with fate like theirs, fought to survive. Someone survived as best they could. And here is the result, and it is logical, the children looked at all this and grew up as they are.
          1. 528Obrp
            528Obrp 22 October 2013 13: 18
            +2
            Quote: rolik
            grown as they are.

            I agree 100% The question is not "who is to blame"!
            Question what to do !!!
            1. rolik
              rolik 22 October 2013 14: 55
              +2
              Quote: 528Obrp
              Question what to do !!!

              Educate a new generation, taking into account all the mistakes. the current generation cannot be redone unless there is a very strong shock. we need a national idea, which is not there right now, we need an ideology, it is not. A lot of things are needed. And the first step is family education. truths are quite simple, but effective.
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 22 October 2013 15: 06
                -1
                My opinion is that in order to unite the entire Russian nation, all the peoples of Russia, we need a war. I know that it sounds wild, but the only way we will see who is our friend and who so --- shit ... but! This is my opinion, can disagree
                1. Andrey Skokovsky
                  Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 22: 51
                  -1
                  Quote: Den 11
                  My opinion is that in order to unite the entire Russian nation, all the peoples of Russia, we need a war. I know that it sounds wild, but the only way we will see who is our friend and who so --- shit ... but! This is my opinion, can disagree

                  sorry but you advise complete nonsense

                  what civil or domestic war is for you ???
                  what is the problem, just imagine that you were transported to those years ... how do you like it ???
                  or maybe you Chechnya-Syria like ???
                  today you can try in your own skin ...
                  and yes, the moment is still insignificant - you and your relatives will be surely killed, but it doesn’t seem to matter ......
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 22 October 2013 23: 09
                    0
                    Scribe! And where is the civilian? I think I made myself clear!
                    1. loisop
                      loisop 22 October 2013 23: 33
                      +1
                      No, we need an Idea that unites the vast majority, that is, ideology. A war, or rather the need to defend the homeland (in any sense) is just one of the ideas, and probably the most primitive one. Although effective, I do not argue. It is also easier and more efficient for a surgeon to amputate a brush during a crushed injury than to collect bone fragments, tendons, suture muscles, etc.
          2. Botanologist
            Botanologist 22 October 2013 15: 51
            0
            Quote: rolik
            and this is the fault of my generation, which was thrown into the pool of free business in the early 90's. he no longer cared about his children and the education of a normal human sprout in them.


            I do not agree. The dashing 90s did not prevent my family from raising children, because children are the future. And these are not beautiful words, but a fact. And the search for food does not prevent a child from reading a book and explaining what conscience is.
            1. Ulan
              Ulan 22 October 2013 17: 37
              +2
              Mine, too, grew up as normal people, because before them was an example of grandfathers and grandmothers who went through the war and worked all their lives, who did not imitate and did not steal. I hope my wife and I were such an example. Now, together with our children, we educate grandchildren in the same spirit.
              We are trying at least. And each of us, to the best of our ability and ability, must do this. In his family, in his porch, courtyard, street, city.
        3. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 15: 06
          -1
          Quote: 528Obrp
          One thing I don’t understand is what to do with the “dead” generation without conscience and principles living “in this country”? But these are mainly young people, and young people determine the future of the country

          you just need to explain what's what, remember yourself young
        4. varov14
          varov14 22 October 2013 19: 34
          +1
          To modernize the "Transsib", if not for patriotic motives, as we did, then in the initial period it is possible under protection until they cross.
        5. yastr
          yastr 23 October 2013 11: 32
          0
          It is not true. Mostly pensioners live with us. There are few youth: even those who are always being slandered by such people who once slept the country. There is nothing to blame for the mirror, if the mug is crooked.
      2. 222222
        222222 22 October 2013 11: 00
        -19 qualifying.
        Hu from hu Mr. Starikov? Why old people appear on the political arena. Kurginyans. Zhirinovsky. Medynsky ... Prokhorov ... ????
        1. 222222
          222222 22 October 2013 11: 34
          -2
          You can minus as much as you want. A negative answer is also an answer .. But, it is advisable to get an answer to the questions from a representative of the Air Defense Party ..
          1. alekseyal
            alekseyal 22 October 2013 13: 05
            +2
            http://nstarikov.ru/about
            Nikolai Viktorovich Starikov was born on August 23, 1970 in the city of Leningrad. Married, has two daughters. In 1992 he graduated from the St. Petersburg Engineering and Economics Institute (economist by education).

            Passion for history, and possibly the date of birth (the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed on August 23) prompted the writing of books. Seeing the laws of political and historical development of Russia, the hidden springs of catastrophes and cataclysms that happened to the country, I decided to start writing books.

            As an expert, he starred in the documentaries "Parvus of the Revolution", "Storm of the Winter. Refutation. " He repeatedly appeared on the air of radio stations, telling curious and little-known historical facts. She constantly speaks in public, giving lectures on history in the largest bookstores in St. Petersburg.

            “In my books I try to explain logically and intelligibly what is happening and why in our country. What really stands behind beautiful words and historical cliches. I’m trying to make people think, to comprehend what has happened and what is happening, ”says Nikolai Starikov himself about the content of his work.

            Co-Chairman of the Party of the Great Fatherland (Air Defense)
            http://партиявеликоеотечество.рф/
            1. 222222
              222222 22 October 2013 13: 19
              -2
              Starikov, as the leader of the Air Defense Party and the PGR, is independent in actions, or who is his "furry hand"?
              It is clear that He is against Medvedev, and today's article "How representatives of the ruling party steal and squander state money" confirms this ... So He is for Putin? From the article, we can hardly assume that they are merging the EP with the leader, DA Medvedev? "Fatherland Front of VV Putin? Yes? What mission is assigned to the Air Defense Party in this program?"
              1. alekseyal
                alekseyal 22 October 2013 17: 35
                0
                The Air Defense Party will participate in all elections.
                The goal of all parties is to win the election.
                1. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 22 October 2013 18: 50
                  0
                  Quote: alekseyal
                  The Air Defense Party will participate in all elections.


                  And even in the municipal somewhere in the Zadonsky district? I’ll look with interest at the results of the game.
                  1. Andrey Skokovsky
                    Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 01: 56
                    0
                    Quote: Botanologist
                    Quote: alekseyal
                    The Air Defense Party will participate in all elections.


                    And even in the municipal somewhere in the Zadonsky district? I’ll look with interest at the results of the game.

                    do you think you need to sit at home with a bottle of beer in your hand, and write on the Internet on the forum how everything is good .. new?
                2. smile
                  smile 22 October 2013 22: 46
                  0
                  alekseyal
                  To doubt it. Tell me. and the populism of your party that exceeds the populism of the Vedra is very good? :)))
              2. Andrey Skokovsky
                Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 22: 59
                -1
                Quote: 222222
                Starikov, as the leader of the Air Defense Party and the PGR, is independent in actions, or who is his "furry hand"?
                It is clear that He is against Medvedev, and today's article "How representatives of the ruling party steal and squander state money" confirms this ... So He is for Putin? From the article, we can hardly assume that they are merging the EP with the leader, DA Medvedev? "Fatherland Front of VV Putin? Yes? What mission is assigned to the Air Defense Party in this program?"


                on the Internet a sea of ​​videos with air defense leadership, these are the following people:
                Ashmanov Igor Stanislavovich
                Khomyakov Vladimir Evgenievich
                Kurinov Alexander Yuryevich
                Obozny Vladimir Pavlovich
                Starikov Nikolay Viktorovich

                you just look and make YOUR own opinion, otherwise you really have some kind of mountains of speculation, excuse me but honestly even dig out reluctance.
        2. bogdan
          bogdan 22 October 2013 11: 56
          -4
          Funny, the interviewer of the Bolsheviks and Lenin called revolutionary infection, wrote down the enemies - is this another attempt, together with 99% of truth, to carry through very important 1% of lies? - here's a minus on this article.
          1. alekseyal
            alekseyal 22 October 2013 13: 18
            +3
            To understand the position of Starikov recommend reading.
            Izborsk Club Report - “Beyond the Reds and the Whites”
            http://nstarikov.ru/blog/25209
          2. Andrey Skokovsky
            Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 15: 23
            0
            Quote: bogdan
            Funny, the interviewer of the Bolsheviks and Lenin called revolutionary infection, wrote down the enemies - is this another attempt, together with 99% of truth, to carry through very important 1% of lies? - here's a minus on this article.

            Lenin and others like him, a foreign revolutionary contagion and an enemy of Russia - this is what Starikov says in ALL of his books, and the fact that when Lenin came to power after some time tried to break free from the power of his foreign partners is a completely different story.
            the fact that the AUCPB was originally created as a tool for the collapse of Russia with the money of other states is one of the biggest and shameful secrets of the USSR, and attempts to whitewash the Communists will never succeed, just hiding this fact the Bolsheviks themselves admit the betrayal of their homeland,
            they were conceived as enemies of Russia, and the fact that some members of the AUCPB rebelled against the general line of the party and, through the blood of purges, turned it into the opposite of that conceived by the Anglo-Saxons, this luck, chance and exception, could be vice versa
            just read this man’s books
            1. bogdan
              bogdan 22 October 2013 17: 12
              0
              Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
              Andrey Skokovsky SU Today, 15:23 PM ↑

              Quote: bogdan
              Funny, the interviewer of the Bolsheviks and Lenin called revolutionary infection, wrote down the enemies - is this another attempt, together with 99% of truth, to carry through very important 1% of lies? - here's a minus on this article.

              Lenin and others like him, a foreign revolutionary contagion and an enemy of Russia - this is what Starikov says in ALL of his books, and the fact that when Lenin came to power after some time tried to break free from the power of his foreign partners is a completely different story.
              the fact that the AUCPB was originally created as a tool for the collapse of Russia with the money of other states is one of the biggest and shameful secrets of the USSR, and attempts to whitewash the Communists will never succeed, just hiding this fact the Bolsheviks themselves admit the betrayal of their homeland,
              they were conceived as enemies of Russia, and the fact that some members of the AUCPB rebelled against the general line of the party and, through the blood of purges, turned it into the opposite of that conceived by the Anglo-Saxons, this luck, chance and exception, could be vice versa
              just read this man’s books

              Andrei Skokovsky - It is absolutely all the same whose money Lenin used to establish the power of the Bolsheviks and create the USSR, only they outrage the attempts of some gentlemen, on the sly, to rewrite history again and portray the Bolsheviks as "foreign agents" by recording them all as Trotskyists.
              1. alekseyal
                alekseyal 22 October 2013 17: 41
                +2
                It was not for nothing that Stalin destroyed the entire old Leninist guard, the old Bolshevik revolutionaries.
                Firstly, many of them were indeed foreign agents (many processes over them were open).
                Secondly, they only knew how to destroy and shoot, other people were needed to build a new state.
                1. Day 11
                  Day 11 22 October 2013 17: 48
                  +4
                  Exactly, one story with the safe of Yeshua-Solomon Movshevich (Y. Sverdlov) is worth it!
                  1. Corsair5912
                    Corsair5912 22 October 2013 18: 43
                    0
                    Quote: Den 11
                    Exactly, one story with the safe of Yeshua-Solomon Movshevich (Y. Sverdlov) is worth it!

                    Firstly, Sverdlov from birth was called Yakov Mikhailovich, perhaps at home, in the family, in Jewish, it sounded a little different, but not fundamentally.
                    Secondly, Sverdlov did not have any personal safes and chests of gold, he died in March 1919 from consumption and there was no time for him to deal with trifles.
                    Thirdly, there was no letter from Yagoda to Stalin from the 1935 year discovered in the 1994 year. Only a clinical madman can believe this.
                    In 1994, the forgeries were riveted on a conveyor belt, like the "Katyn affair" with the notes of Stalin and Beria, dated 1940 on the letterhead of the Central Committee of the CPSU (and not the Central Committee of the CPSU (b).
                    1. Day 11
                      Day 11 22 October 2013 18: 54
                      +1
                      Nikolay, you’re a smart person (I read your comments). But there was a safe --- it was !!! And you really opened it after his death. And you know it yourself yourself. Indeed, a bunch of different passports were found there countries on different same surnames. You will not deny it? About brulik-conversation is separate.
                      1. Corsair5912
                        Corsair5912 22 October 2013 19: 08
                        0
                        Quote: Den 11
                        And, indeed, they opened it after his death. And you know it yourself yourself. Indeed, a bunch of passports of different countries for different surnames were found there. You will not deny this?

                        Where was it really discovered? Who saw and confirmed? Berry? Stalin?
                        Denis, you are a smart person. Why would someone start storing such letters in the archives of the Politburo?
                        Denis, precisely because I am not crazy, I don’t believe in Sverdlov’s personal safes, heaps of passports in different countries and in the foreign accounts of the Bolsheviks, Lenin and other anti-Soviet liberal nonsense composed in perestroika.
                        The Bolsheviks were absolutely morally and ideologically not like modern liberals, traitors, thieves and skins among them. Perhaps they are guilty of excessive cruelty, not for us to judge, but their hands were clean.
                2. varov14
                  varov14 22 October 2013 20: 09
                  0
                  "Secondly, they only knew how to destroy and shoot; other people were needed to build a new state." - The current ones, too, can only destroy and steal, other people are also needed to restore the state. Yes, and at first they were not afraid to shoot, for the good of the case and to give acceleration - the latter cheers up, and they will simply get rid of the foam.
                  1. Corsair5912
                    Corsair5912 23 October 2013 18: 26
                    0
                    Quote: varov14
                    "Secondly, they only knew how to destroy and shoot; other people were needed to build a new state." - The current ones, too, can only destroy and steal, other people are also needed to restore the state. Yes, and at first they were not afraid to shoot, for the good of the case and to give acceleration - the latter cheers up, and they will simply get rid of the foam.

                    You are apparently poorly informed and do not know who built the USSR, who expelled the interventionists and their White Guard lackeys. The Soviet government was not only concerned with military and political issues; most of the research institutes and areas of their activity were organized and approved already in the 1918 year. Study the materials of the congresses of the Soviets.
                    From the first months of its existence, the Soviet government paid special attention to science. The young state showed a scientifically sound, well-thought-out, systematic approach to the whole range of innovative activities. The solution of urgent economic problems required the mobilization of scientific and technical potential and the creation of a new, more efficient system for organizing R&D. In 1918 compared to 1917, the costs of maintaining scientific institutions increased 14 times. Total government spending on scientific research reached 3% of total government spending. During 1918, 33 research institutes were created in the country. Among them: Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute (TsAGI), Physico-chemical, X-ray and Radiological. All this happened in the conditions of the Civil War and economic ruin. By 1922, the number of universities compared to the pre-revolutionary level increased almost 2 times, the number of students reached 216 thousand people. In 1917, there were only 127 thousand of them.
              2. Andrey Skokovsky
                Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 18: 57
                0
                Quote: bogdan
                It is absolutely all the same whose money Lenin used to establish the power of the Bolsheviks and create the USSR, but they just outrage the attempts of some gentlemen, on the sly, to rewrite history again and portray the Bolsheviks as "foreign agents" by recording them all as Trotskyists.


                foreign dollars and pounds in Russian politics are the same repressions and purges of the 37go, it is the blood of thousands of people, it has always been and will be
                remember the blood of the revolution in France
                and today's Libya, Syria, Egypt .....
                and the cherished dreams of one of the candidates for mayor of Moscow, well, one about which all media tryndely ....
                nothing changes, such money always smells of blood and corpses.
            2. Corsair5912
              Corsair5912 22 October 2013 18: 54
              0
              Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
              from the fact that the AUCPB was originally created as a tool for the collapse of Russia with the money of other states, this is one of the biggest and shameful secrets of the USSR, and attempts to whitewash the Communists will never succeed, but simply hiding this fact, the Bolsheviks themselves acknowledge the betrayal of their homeland,

              Andrew, you are the wildest ignorant nonsense.
              The Bolsheviks were preceded by the Union of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class, which promoted Marxism and had nothing to do with foreigners and the collapse of Russia.
              After him, the "Russian Social Democratic Labor Party" was created, similar to which were in all European countries and in the United States. They, too, were created for the collapse of Russia?
              In 1903, the RSDLP was divided into 2 fractions, Bolsheviks and Mensheviks.
              I advise you to at least elementary study the history of the revolution in Russia, and not to repeat the stupid Russophobic lies of the enemies of Russia, to which neither Lenin nor the Bolsheviks had anything to do.
              1. Andrey Skokovsky
                Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 23: 14
                -1
                Quote: Corsair5912
                Andrew, you are the wildest ignorant nonsense.
                The Bolsheviks were preceded by the Union of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class, which promoted Marxism and had nothing to do with foreigners and the collapse of Russia.
                After him, the "Russian Social Democratic Labor Party" was created, similar to which were in all European countries and in the United States. They, too, were created for the collapse of Russia?
                In 1903, the RSDLP was divided into 2 fractions, Bolsheviks and Mensheviks.
                I advise you to at least elementary study the history of the revolution in Russia, and not to repeat the stupid Russophobic lies of the enemies of Russia, to which neither Lenin nor the Bolsheviks had anything to do.


                excuse me, but with what funds the RSDLP created these same branches in all countries of the world, with what money they organized the congress in London, with what money did Lenin and dozens of "fiery" revolutionaries live abroad for YEARS,
                I have the impression that you have knowledge of that time at the level of the times of the Soviet Union and at 100% approved by the Central Committee of the CPSU
                just read the books of the person who is interviewed in this article, and if you have anything to say, I’ll be happy to discuss it with you.
                1. Corsair5912
                  Corsair5912 23 October 2013 18: 40
                  0
                  Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
                  excuse me, but with what funds the RSDLP created these same branches in all countries of the world, with what money they organized the congress in London, with what money did Lenin and dozens of "fiery" revolutionaries live abroad for YEARS,
                  I have the impression that you have knowledge of that time at the level of the times of the Soviet Union and at 100% approved by the Central Committee of the CPSU
                  just read the books of the person who is interviewed in this article, and if you have anything to say, I’ll be happy to discuss it with you.

                  Andrei, no one has ever hid the sources of financing of the RSDLP; these are party contributions and voluntary donations.
                  The RSDLP did not have a single branch abroad; most of the members of the RSDLP lived abroad at their own expense. They worked, not sitting at home. Very few, units, received benefits from the party cash desk.
                  If you do not know this, the Central Committee of the CPSU in its publications is a billion times more truthful than the current liberalism, the history of the party was written with living witnesses, and not according to the speculation of agents of the American State Department.
                  I read the books of N. Starikov, but unlike you, I analyze what I read, and do not take it for granted. In Starikov's books, truth is cunningly intertwined with lies; this technique of modern anti-Sovietists is common in the dirty books of traitors Kalugin, Rezun, Solzhenitser and the like. V. Vysotsky sang about them and similar "truth-lovers".
                  A certain eccentric is still fighting for Truth, -
                  True, in his speeches - the truth on a broken penny:
                  -Pure Truth will triumph over time,
                  If it does the same as a manifest Falsehood.
          3. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 22 October 2013 18: 27
            0
            Quote: bogdan
            Funny, the interviewer of the Bolsheviks and Lenin called revolutionary infection, wrote down the enemies - is this another attempt, together with 99% of truth, to carry through very important 1% of lies? - here's a minus on this article.

            Nikolai is my friend on several sites, but truth is dearer to me.
            In his books, to put it mildly, there are too many contradictions, inaccuracies and stretches, which can be seen with a simple eye.
            He is clearly exaggerating the influence of the British on the events of world history and on the politics of USA.
            The Fed is also not an English creation, but a purely Yankesian one. U.S. dollars are printed there, and not British bastards.
            Lenin did not receive money and support from the British, he is a "German spy", but the Socialist-Revolutionaries, Kerensky, Savinkov, Blumkin and other enemies of the Bolsheviks and Lenin, just received from the British money, weapons, and troops.
            The White Guard headquarters were simply teeming with the Socialist-Revolutionaries and the landing of the English interventionists ideally coincided with the Socialist-Revolutionary rebellion in the 1918 year.
            1. Andrey Skokovsky
              Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 23: 35
              +1
              Quote: Corsair5912

              In his books, to put it mildly, there are too many contradictions, inaccuracies and stretches, which can be seen with a simple eye.
              He is clearly exaggerating the influence of the British on the events of world history and on the politics of USA.
              The Fed is also not an English creation, but a purely Yankesian one. U.S. dollars are printed there, and not British bastards.
              Lenin did not receive money and support from the British, he is a "German spy", but the Socialist-Revolutionaries, Kerensky, Savinkov, Blumkin and other enemies of the Bolsheviks and Lenin, just received from the British money, weapons, and troops.
              The White Guard headquarters were simply teeming with the Socialist-Revolutionaries and the landing of the English interventionists ideally coincided with the Socialist-Revolutionary rebellion in the 1918 year.


              I will not comment on emotions, I see only two distinct moments
              1 about how the Fed was created has been chewed on by Starikov in more than detail, the fact that they print a piece of paper different from the pound is more than understandable, or do you think the bankers who finally have unlimited power over the finances of some state should suddenly release money - a copy of it recent enemy? what for? no matter how the money looks and is called, the main thing is that the whole world considers them real and you print them!

              2 today we have bulk and Kasparov, Chubais and Alekseev, and so on and so on, are you members of one friendly team? Are you going to systematize these people by grades? what for?
              in my opinion, these are all enemies of Russia and agents of the 5 column.
              it was exactly the same in 1918,

              I still have the impression that you have not read Starikov’s books .....
              1. loisop
                loisop 22 October 2013 23: 54
                0
                Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
                there is bulk and Kasparov, Chubais and Alekseev, and so on and so on, are you members of one friendly team?

                Ever played the fool in a pair-on-pair variation? There is me and there is my partner, playing against two other players. My cards are one team, cards in my partner's hands are another. But both are playing for a joint win. Not on your own.
        3. Starfish
          Starfish 22 October 2013 12: 16
          +3
          "- Will Putin, in principle, engage in modernization? He is a supporter of cautious steps, but decisive and prompt measures are needed. Personally, do you, Nikolai Viktorovich, have hopes that the current generation of Russian leaders will be engaged in restoring order?

          - The current generation of the country's leaders is already engaged in putting things in order. But at a certain speed, which is fully consistent with the conflicting desires that are spread in our society. Any leader of the country should be guided by the opinion of his people. And he, the people, still wants results, as in China, and methods, as in today's Russia. "

          very controversial moment. people have long been ready for harsh methods of restoring order. the death penalty for corrupt officials at the level of Serdyukov, drug dealers, and terrorists. but now is not the 37th year
          1. Victor-M
            Victor-M 22 October 2013 21: 12
            +2
            Quote: Starfish
            very controversial moment. people have long been ready for harsh methods of restoring order. the death penalty for corrupt officials at the level of Serdyukov, drug dealers, and terrorists. but now is not the 37th year

            You know, of course, the people are ready for tough methods of combating corruption, drug trafficking and, of course, terrorists, but only with respect to others, but not with respect to their close relatives.
        4. screw cutter
          screw cutter 22 October 2013 12: 24
          +3
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%
          D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B9_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D
          0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
          To the question of who is this.
          http://nstarikov.ru/Блог
          For acquaintance and representation about the person and his life position.
        5. 222222
          222222 22 October 2013 14: 52
          -6
          oh. I beg your pardon .. I have forgotten the deputy of many convocations Fedorov - the head of the theory "Russia is occupied" and exposing the occupiers of Russia
        6. rolik
          rolik 22 October 2013 14: 58
          +5
          Quote: 222222
          Hu from hu Mr. Starikov? Why old people appear on the political arena. Kurginyans. Zhirinovsky. Medynsky ... Prokhorov ... ????

          Judging by your flag, Yatsenyuk, Tymoshenko and the other political elite of Ukraine are closer to you. Well, we have our own politicians, political scientists and others. And they are necessary for us, first of all, in order to think with our brains. Watch and think, that's all.
          1. 222222
            222222 22 October 2013 15: 17
            +3
            Judging by your flag, "..:
            Firstly, this is not my flag. and Ukraine ...
            secondly, I can't stand "rabbits" in power
            thirdly, Tymoshenko and PR are not my idols. They are no different ... They only change each other at the trough of Power
            - fourthly, for me Russia is not an empty phrase .. Russia will be alive - countries from the former USSR will be safe
            -Fifth, so you your convolutions or convolutions of political scientists? Which impose on you the right direction of your brain activity.
            1. rolik
              rolik 22 October 2013 16: 28
              +3
              Quote: 222222
              -Fifth, so you your convolutions or convolutions of political scientists? Which impose on you the right direction of your brain activity.

              Personally, I, with my convolutions, who was born in the USSR and lived half of my life in it, have the idea that not everything is dark - night, not all light - day.
              Do you live in (sorry) in Ukraine? Then this is your flag, the flag of your country. Why deny it and separate yourself and the country in which you live, and whose flag is put on public display ??? strange logic.
              I have the Soviet flag, it used to be the Russian one (I didn’t understand why they changed it to the USSR flag, but I won’t mind it either), and it didn’t make me uncomfortable. I associate myself as a Citizen of Russia and am not ashamed of this.
              And I did talk about idols, I talked about politicians. Each country has its own, and each citizen of a given country knows its politicians a little better than a citizen of another country.
              About (Russia will be alive) You do not worry too much - it will be more alive than all the living. And to be closer or further from Russia is a personal matter of each neighboring state. Which is represented by politicians who are chosen by the people.
              That's all.
              1. 222222
                222222 22 October 2013 17: 06
                0
                So I’m talking about the same thing ... Something in the anti-aircraft party, the militias are somehow nervous and paranoidly suspicious? It’s not enough that a red rag is being thrown in, you need to calmly and reasonably explain the essence of the problem. Only then can a group of people be called a Party and not a Sect ...
                1. Andrey Skokovsky
                  Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 23: 42
                  0
                  Quote: 222222
                  So I’m talking about the same thing ... Something in the anti-aircraft party, the militias are somehow nervous and paranoidly suspicious? It’s not enough that a red rag is being thrown in, you need to calmly and reasonably explain the essence of the problem. Only then can a group of people be called a Party and not a Sect ...

                  Sorry, but you will not state the problem, the essence of which you want to understand, but could not? through our fault, as I understand it?
                  otherwise you used a lot of adjectives, while excuse nouns but obviously not enough ...
        7. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 15: 14
          +8
          Quote: 222222
          Hu from hu Mr. Starikov? Why old people appear on the political arena. Kurginyans. Zhirinovsky. Medynsky ... Prokhorov ... ????


          you are comparing completely different people in everything.

          the best answer you can get (unless of course you’re not a troll) is just to read his books on history and geopolitics
          I can say from myself: Starikov is a patriot of Russia who has shown many people how foreign countries intervene and influence the life of our homeland, which contributes to the dawn of Russia as a country and what destroys it.
          read his books better
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 22 October 2013 19: 01
            -1
            Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
            the best answer you can get (unless of course you’re not a troll) is just to read his books on history and geopolitics


            I've read a lot of such books, they won't fit into a suitcase. Starting from "The World of Empires" by SN Baburin and ending with motley pseudo-historians. Only there is no historical answer in these books. There is only a more or less combed opinion of the author, as a rule - very narrow. And all recipes are given on the basis of this narrow decision. Therefore, they are not viable initially. If only because in order to implement the points written in the article, it is also necessary to study the current state of affairs in the army, the prospects for the development of the Armed Forces, budget constraints, industrial resources and much more. And it’s not very difficult to write “it would be nice if we took and bent everyone”. But to implement recipes "from Starikov", I think, is unrealistic.
            1. Andrey Skokovsky
              Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 23: 45
              0
              Quote: Botanologist
              Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
              the best answer you can get (unless of course you’re not a troll) is just to read his books on history and geopolitics


              I've read a lot of such books, they won't fit into a suitcase. Starting from "The World of Empires" by SN Baburin and ending with motley pseudo-historians. Only there is no historical answer in these books. There is only a more or less combed opinion of the author, as a rule - very narrow. And all recipes are given on the basis of this narrow decision. Therefore, they are not viable initially. If only because in order to implement the points written in the article, it is also necessary to study the current state of affairs in the army, the prospects for the development of the Armed Forces, budget constraints, industrial resources and much more. And it’s not very difficult to write “it would be nice if we took and bent everyone”. But to implement recipes "from Starikov", I think, is unrealistic.


              if you read a lot, then I think Starikov’s books will be interesting to you
        8. alex13-61
          alex13-61 22 October 2013 15: 38
          +2
          Quote: 222222
          Why old people appear on the political arena. Kurginyans. Zhirinovsky.

          Well, I wouldn’t compare Starikov and Kurginyan with Zhirinovsky ... even though a figure, the same Zhirinovsky might be needed, that would not be boring. But, object, argued, against the arguments of Starikov and Kurginyan. Try it ...
          1. 222222
            222222 22 October 2013 16: 37
            0
            I in no way belittle the role of N.V. Starikov, the anti-aircraft defense and the anti-missile defense party .. Sometimes, for some reason, it seems strange the appearance of new political GURUs at the same time .. using the same promotion technique .. First, he writes on a certain topic, then into politics. And the strangest new parties appear during the period of growth in the number of the Communist Party at the expense of youth. and most importantly with slogans and programs close to the Communists .. You do not know for what purpose?
            Try it .. One example. NV Starikov reasonably exalts the statesman IV Stalin and deservedly But on the other hand hits VI Lenin .. What would Joseph Vissarionovich say about this, calling himself "a faithful disciple of Lenin"? It is clear that at present it is necessary in every possible way to create the image of the state leader as a statesman .. Time demands it .. But. And Stalin clearly stood and multiplied the state with a socialist social form on the means of production. And in the Program of the Air Defense Party about the economic basis of Russia, its superstructure, there is nothing ...
            1. alex13-61
              alex13-61 22 October 2013 16: 47
              0
              I will unsubscribe tomorrow - today the problem is time ...
            2. Ulan
              Ulan 22 October 2013 17: 50
              +3
              Not certainly in that way. Under Stalin there was a synthesis. The public form (ownership) of the means of production and private. Why did everyone forget about it.
              We forgot that there was an artel form of production. As a rule, in the domestic sphere and the sphere of production of consumer goods.
              Moreover, it was a pretty decent sector in the economy. It was completely liquidated by Khrushchev, like many other Stalinist forms and governments and economies.
            3. alekseyal
              alekseyal 22 October 2013 17: 53
              0
              The Air Defense Party appeared because a huge number of people are not satisfied with any of the current political parties.
              I will express my personal opinion

              1. United Russia - has largely discredited itself. It included many careerists. Party Chairman Medvedev is obsessed with mania to carry out yet another privatization, to give everything to private hands. We have already passed this in 90 years.
              Putin distanced himself from the party by creating the ONF.

              2. Just Russia is a party of national treason. Party members Ponamarev, Gudkov are active activists of the white-tape opposition. Party members went to the US Embassy for instructions and money. Our local Zubov advocates the sale of our children abroad.

              3. Civil platform - the party of Prokhorov (the oligarch dishonestly seized the state of the whole people as a result of predatory mortgage auctions). Owns a basketball club in the USA. All enterprises are registered abroad (Does not pay taxes to the Russian budget). Wants to enter a 12 hour business day.

              4. Communist Party-speak correctly, but the fact of the matter is that they only say. In 1996, Zyuganov won the presidential election, but refused to win. In 2000, they voted against the nationalization of the Central Bank, which Putin wanted to hold. They collaborated with Udaltsov, who took money from the United States (through Georgia) for subversive work in Russia.

              5. LDPR - a lot of what Zhirinovsky says correctly. But many people do not regard him as a serious politician. I myself respect him.
              1. 222222
                222222 22 October 2013 20: 15
                -1
                all of you listed are parties of power working for the same goal — preservation of capitalism and private ownership of the means of production in the country. Without changing the form of ownership, all your program statements are simply not feasible. Yes, you yourself must understand this if you got involved in the struggle for power ..
                1. Andrey Skokovsky
                  Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 00: 10
                  0
                  Quote: 222222
                  all of you listed are parties of power working for the same goal — preservation of capitalism and private ownership of the means of production in the country. Without changing the form of ownership, all your program statements are simply not feasible. Yes, you yourself must understand this if you got involved in the struggle for power ..


                  Sorry, but you don’t notice much more global problems, in comparison with which the form of ownership is not so important

                  1) a mechanism for the formation of the ruble, in which we actually give the Western world wealth equal to the amount of rubles issued in Russia, for example, you received a salary of 30 tr, to print this money Russia transferred west oil of shares, etc. to 30 tr, you should have received 60 tr, but did not receive.

                  2) registration of almost all large enterprises abroad, over the past 30 years, deductions from the already-hybrid company Krasnoyarsk Aluminum Plant have been reduced by 30 times, before everything was state and ours, now everything is private and foreign, let's first do everything at least Russian, for this, by the way, you don’t need a lot of shocks and efforts, but we'll see

                  to arrange a hard redistribution of property today, as you propose, it is stupid and simply unprofitable for the country, look at China, both forms of ownership are used there, and what is the result.
                  1. pl675
                    pl675 23 October 2013 00: 24
                    +1
                    to arrange a hard redistribution of property today, as you propose, it is stupid and simply unprofitable for the country, look at China, both forms of ownership are used there, and what is the result.

                    why stupid? who decided so?
                    yes you my friend liberal disguised.
                    - The inviolability of private property is one of the whales of Liberota.
                    I categorically demand a revision of privatization.
                    take everything away and share.
                    1. Denis
                      Denis 23 October 2013 02: 23
                      0
                      Quote: pl675
                      I categorically demand privatization review
                      Alas, this is utopia, but sorry
                      Who will review the results, the one who profited from it?
                      They will reconsider so that we will rejoice
            4. Andrey Skokovsky
              Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 23: 55
              0
              Quote: 222222
              I in no way belittle the role of N.V. Starikov, the anti-aircraft defense and the anti-missile defense party .. Sometimes, for some reason, it seems strange the appearance of new political GURUs at the same time .. using the same promotion technique .. First, he writes on a certain topic, then into politics. And the strangest new parties appear during the period of growth in the number of the Communist Party at the expense of youth. and most importantly with slogans and programs close to the Communists .. You do not know for what purpose? ..


              be so kind as to give examples of these "gurus", examples of faces similar to the writer Starikov
              examples of history similar to the creation of the Union of Citizens of Russia and the Great Fatherland Party .....
              and examples of persons similar to the writer Starikov ....
              there is a good proverb about "it seems" .....
              1. Denis
                Denis 23 October 2013 02: 33
                0
                Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
                persons similar to the writer Starikov
                As a writer, I emphasize once again:as a writerHe’s great. But in another I don’t know, I just don’t know
                Here is my father’s disgrace-bondarchuk in the movies of the militants in the toilet soaking and taking the right films. But on the anniversary of Grozny, in fact, Ramzan’s day jumped half-bent. Or just business, nothing personal?
                We’ll see, I wouldn’t want to be disappointed
                1. Andrey Skokovsky
                  Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 14: 49
                  -1
                  Quote: Denis
                  Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
                  persons similar to the writer Starikov
                  As a writer, I emphasize once again:as a writerHe’s great. But in another I don’t know, I just don’t know
                  Here is my father’s disgrace-bondarchuk in the movies of the militants in the toilet soaking and taking the right films. But on the anniversary of Grozny, in fact, Ramzan’s day jumped half-bent. Or just business, nothing personal?
                  We’ll see, I wouldn’t want to be disappointed


                  sorry but you use the troll technique
                  you compare Starikov with the youngest-Bondarchuk, in my opinion it’s generally completely different, different people,
                  moreover, if we take into account the film "Stalingrad" of the latter - direct political opponents in their views on the history of Russia.

                  after which you transfer your negative attitude to Bondarchuk to Starikov and begin to doubt him already.
                  using such a wonderful method you can be "disappointed" in any person
                  1. Denis
                    Denis 23 October 2013 15: 30
                    -1
                    Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
                    sorry but you use the troll technique
                    Sorry, you're just stupid
                    Are you familiar with such a term as offense?
                    Even if not, then it is in all posts. Retell the facts of the biography that are in the explanations of the librus before all the books, do not pull on more?
                    And it would be nice not to confuse the given example of someone b. with comparison
            5. alex13-61
              alex13-61 23 October 2013 10: 46
              +2
              Quote: 222222
              And the strangest new parties appear during the period of growth in the number of the Communist Party at the expense of youth. and most importantly with slogans and programs close to the Communists .. You do not know for what purpose?

              With an attempt to distract - it is quite possible ...
              And Kurginyan, what didn’t please him ??? I, as a survivor of the 90s, consider his position the most acceptable
        9. Ulan
          Ulan 22 October 2013 17: 42
          +2
          And what information is not enough in a network? Or laziness? Read the books of Starikov, go to his website. Just google - Nikolai Starikov and there you read his articles and discussions of both supporters and opponents.
          Then make up your mind, and you won’t ask others, especially since you are not a stupid person and you understand that it is impossible to answer such a question with two phrases.
          No, of course you can answer in your own style, well, like that, Nikolai Starikov is a man.
          Is it enough for you? Or do you still want to really know who N. Starikov is? Well then, take my advice. Success.
          Not a minus, although you deserve it.
          1. 222222
            222222 22 October 2013 20: 54
            -2
            Sorry . But I will explain why I threw in the "red rag" .. On the branch at 8 52 there was a program of the Air Defense Party. With one mouse click. And only at 11:00 (two hours later) - I put "Hu from hu" And now explain what these methods and methods of party propaganda and agitation are. What is absolutely crap? It is scary to imagine that if any of the members of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation threw the party program silently on the thread .. Regarding the site of NV Starikov ... Previously, the site was more attractive, active and vital. BUT, gradually became the fiefdom of the same commentators
            Yes, and the moderators -voluntary activists tried their best to remove dissenting-minded-, without which the acuteness and activity of discussions fell. Maybe I'm wrong .. ??
        10. varov14
          varov14 22 October 2013 19: 53
          +1
          "Why do old people appear on the political arena. Kurginians. Zhirinovskie. Medynskie ... Prokhorovs ... ????" ---- Well, some of their heads are turned on, others are completely lost. It would be good if the majority of the head still included. Whatever anyone is broadcasting, common sense should be put at the forefront, and not personal, yet public.
          1. 222222
            222222 22 October 2013 21: 14
            0
            Probably it's all about the "Button" .. "Uri, Uri, where is the button?"
        11. Victor-M
          Victor-M 22 October 2013 21: 07
          +3
          Quote: 222222
          Why old people appear on the political arena. Kurginyans. Zhirinovsky. Medynsky

          In order to at least listen to them to get at least some kind of positive attitude towards their country, but for what there are draw-siders, yushchenko, timoshenka, bulk, ponomarevs, this is the question, so the question, although der ... mo is an integral part humanity, for that we and people, that would get rid of it.
      3. Kostya pedestrian
        Kostya pedestrian 22 October 2013 15: 06
        +1


        So I want to join the poster, with the words:

        "Its fields are spacious
        The enemy does not dare to trample! "

        Pies: by the way, experienced detectives when they investigate a crime, initially, always require justification and an alibi from the (former) killers on the file, i.e. those who have already committed such crimes, and even in that area. Why are terrorist attacks not investigated in this way?
        1. loisop
          loisop 23 October 2013 00: 09
          0
          In the killings (we do not consider the open actions of the organized crime group, in such cases the detectives do not work like that) the killer is his own customer, his own intermediary and his own performer. Therefore, motives, by the way, are easier to untwist.
          In the case of terrorism, they are all different people. Customers, performers, instructors of performers, procurers, etc., etc. Therefore, they investigate differently.
          1. Kostya pedestrian
            Kostya pedestrian 27 October 2013 07: 50
            -1
            Well, don't tell me, princess Diana "AvarNULI" is not far from the Alma bridge (mater (rye) wolves are already my linguistic ideas, the deductive method of the Kholmsky gate, so to speak) And this bridge was opened by the French kyokoy Napoleon 3, and in honor of the victory (hear, victories, and where are they the code they won) on the Russian army. So it is likely that this was the beginning of the revenge of the Nazi spirit. By the way Minsk metro station Kastrychnitskaya, their trace is felt. In addition, I will not be mistaken if I assume that this is due to the knights-dogs of the virgin Mary, who have already made so many attempts to kill many crowned heads, if they do not tower their godfather in Vatecan -C ... tzzzz. Only this is half the trouble. And for the Russians, one could think of as European commissioners, or rather maestres, which in German means Japanese masons write off their atrocities and atrocities on decent believers who beat themselves in the chest lamenting in casseroles "like they take the blame" it's fun to watch people with higher formed by them becoming suckers, and as reputable people say, make them "steam locomotives", then you involuntarily thank Lucas and the guys from the Red Tail squadron for the revealed enemy intentions. They do not know such valuable information on Francis Skaryna Avenue, but in the House of Cinema they know the issue very well. Congratulations, and hello to the aliens!

            picture from wikipedia "Napoleon in captivity at bismarck" By the way, how is it? Is Ford still standing? - saw the knights torn before your eyes? Hare-minus.
      4. smile
        smile 22 October 2013 22: 20
        0
        alekseya
        I understand your desire to advertise the party whose supporter you are.
        But I have a question for you, inspired by the fact that the great writer Starikov, whose books I read with pleasure (albeit not always agree on trifles) since I went into politics, turned into a seasoned populist Starikov.
        So here. I have not thoroughly studied his populist rhetoric, but something just hurts the eye. So, in his discussions about which Central Bank is bad (and its activity doesn’t completely eliminate me), Starikov is indignant at the following fact: the Central Bank is forbidden to acquire Russian government debt obligations. If you are familiar with the topic.
        You understand that these obligations are issued to raise funds from outside. But Starikov is not happy with this (since this is one of the cornerstones of his self-promotion). Does he want the state to buy debt obligations on its own? then what is the meaning of these securities? You do not find that this is not just populism, but arrogant profanity designed for what people are. whom he clearly believes the electorate simply do not understand?
        Answer, what is he right about?
        By the way, I admit that this is not Starikov’s invention. and the work of his creators ... then how does he differ from the current government. if at the very beginning of his political career he uses populism and demagogy much more actively than the current president?
        I understand that politics is a dirty business, but honestly, it’s disgusting to watch how an introduction to politics turns an excellent writer into a professional demagogue and a corn bullshit ....
        1. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 00: 30
          -1
          Quote: smile

          But I have a question for you, inspired by the fact that an excellent writer Starikov, whose books I read with pleasure (though I do not always agree on trifles) since I went into politics, turned into a seasoned populist Starikov .... so, In his discussions about which Central Bank is bad (and its activity does not suit me at all), Starikov is indignant at the following fact: the Central Bank is prohibited from acquiring Russian government debt obligations. If you are familiar with the topic.
          You understand that these obligations are issued to raise funds from outside. But Starikov is not happy with this (since this is one of the cornerstones of his self-promotion). Does he want the state to buy debt obligations on its own? then what is the meaning of these securities? You do not find that this is not just populism, but arrogant profanity designed for what people are. whom he clearly believes the electorate simply do not understand?
          Answer, what is he right about here? ..


          there are attempts to destroy the mechanism of the formation of the ruble through the purchase of the dollar, the mechanism invested in 91 in the laws created by the Americans of the Russian Federation, WE SHOULD buy debt in order to print the ruble, such a mechanism

          how do you think which debt obligations are better for the country, the debts of the usa? or the debts of Russia?
          Which retiree should we pay an American pension? or all the same Russian?
          in my opinion everything is clear.
          1. smile
            smile 23 October 2013 01: 07
            0
            Andrey Skokovsky
            excuse me, I will try to be extremely correct, since you are clearly a good person .... but, again, a clear victim of Starikov's populism ...
            Look, you didn’t understand or pretended not to understand my comment. I hope you pretended.
            I hope because it’s easier to find a common language with a proxy by convincing him of the benefits of cooperation than convincing a person who does not understand the populist’s brachology, which he supports, nor the arguments of those who catch this populist for the trunk. He just believes, bewitched by loud verbiage.
            I repeat. we are talking about the fact that the old agitators agitate, why is the Central Bank deprived of the right to buy RUSSIAN DEBT LIABILITIES (not American). That is, therefore, the Central Bank did not make it possible to arrange shuruys with state securities, transferring state money from one pocket to another (to the detriment of the state, which is forced to pay all kinds of interest, etc., and does not receive funds for attracting these obligations ) When implementing the ideas of Starikov, the Central Bank would open up frantic prospects for various kinds of speculation.
            Question- is this what Starikov seeks? What are the guys from banking institutions paying him? Can you imagine what he proposes to turn the Central Bank under the sweet sauce of good wishes? And, by the way, it is impudently lying that the Central Bank is not controlled by the country's leadership .... it is asked if you are such a patriot, you want the good of the state, why do you, erst, lie through the word and make proposals that undermine the state economic system?
            Personally, a huge request to you - please, I beg you, read my first comment and try to answer it specifically - in the process of compiling the answer, you will probably understand that you were again deceived ... and impudently,
            I apologize in advance for possible excessive sharpness.
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 23 October 2013 01: 29
              +1
              Quote: smile
              excuse me, I’ll try to be extremely correct,

              but in terms of not tried? wassat if you buy our bonds this is GKO 98 year If American then this is their problem What else is not clear? fool laughing
              1. Andrey Skokovsky
                Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 14: 56
                -1
                Quote: Ruslan67
                Quote: smile
                excuse me, I’ll try to be extremely correct,

                but in terms of not tried? wassat if you buy our bonds this is GKO 98 year If American then this is their problem What else is not clear? fool laughing


                the incorrect comparison of the GKO 98 year shopping mall is in no way directly related to the issue or creation of money.
                it was an action conducted by the Central Bank of Russia under the strict control of the Fed and against Russia.
                declaring like that and not understanding the situation just lying.
            2. Andrey Skokovsky
              Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 01: 33
              -1
              Quote: smile
              I repeat. we are talking about the fact that the old agitators agitate, why is the Central Bank deprived of the right to buy RUSSIAN DEBT LIABILITIES (not American).


              according to the law on the Central Bank of Russia, he does not have the right to invest in Russia’s debt obligations, it’s just the law as it is.

              today in Russia there is a mechanism for pumping our wealth to the west, the mechanism is rigidly laid in the creation of the ruble through the purchase of US debts, which they NEVER are going to repay, if we start buying our debt obligations we will completely level this financial mechanism,

              not for that we were destroyed in 91 so that we would develop our country and pay our pensioners.
              but they are afraid that someone will steal something - it’s nothing to do at all, look above I’ve answered a similar question about the ruble to a man

              if you don’t understand something, then I’ll supplement it, but please don’t write emotional inserts and speculations in such quantities, this is superfluous.
              1. Denis
                Denis 23 October 2013 02: 38
                +2
                Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
                if you do not understand something
                Yes, we understood what we needed, but to know how
                Not the Central Bank with an attack
                1. Andrey Skokovsky
                  Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 15: 01
                  -1
                  Quote: Denis
                  Yes, we understood what we needed, but to know how
                  Not the Central Bank with an attack


                  as the understanding of the situation among the people accumulates, it’s quite possible the issue of supporting such actions by people,
                  if now the GDP will try to make something similar, the liberals will simply tear it up, but it is necessary that they dare not utter a fear for their skin
                  1. Denis
                    Denis 23 October 2013 15: 35
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
                    popularly quite possible
                    Have you carefully read the writing yourself?
                    One to One Predictions
                    It can happen if possible, if it is
                    Such shamanic tales and zomboyaschik easily hear, specifics where?
              2. smile
                smile 23 October 2013 03: 49
                0
                Andrey Skokovsky
                Andrei, let's leave the populist statements that make up a significant part of your comment and focus on the first paragraph, which is an attempt to answer my question ....
                And what do we have in analyzing your answer?
                And we have that you simply stated the fact that there is such an article in the law on the Central Bank .... moreover, a fact that has positive significance ... it’s very good that the Central Bank does not have the right to invest in Russia’s debt obligations, because that this prevents various kinds of speculation of our banks, and does not prevent the raising of funds from the outside — that is, it does not prevent these securities from fulfilling the role that they are destined for .... not only did you not answer my question (you just couldn’t) but only stated a fact, not only did you not understand how stupid and harmful Starikov’s proposals to cancel this rule - so you still did not understand the essence of my question, or the essence of Starikov’s proposal, or the essence of the rule of law to which you are referring. ... damn it, well, there’s a limit to everything .... I say this with great sadness ... and once again I can state old people’s slogans, terrible populist agitation, whose implementation will be a disaster, and as if paid by banking institutions, interested in a mess, they find their fans mainly among those who do not think a damn thing about the essence of his proposals ... who have turned on the apparently patriotic frame of absolutely iddiotistic offers .... on candy wrappers ... pah ...
                For me, to be honest, it’s a mystery how not stupid Starikov could suggest such harmful nonsense .... and this is only at the dawn of a political career ... if now he has lied a couple of orders more than Pu, then what will he learn from him further?

                And to you personally, a very big request - make an effort and try to ponder that nonsense that Starikov offers ... study not only the rule of law, but also the comments and explanations to them ... I assure you that for assessment it is not necessary an appropriate education, it’s quite elementary common sense ... and you look at you like that, and there is an association with the unfortunate tenth-time fans of MMM fucked up ..... well, how much can you get on absolutely empty, even from afar, and pretty slogans? It's a shame for you, honestly ....

                And yet, in the past comments, I asked a question- you didn’t answer it ... no way ... please read the question again and answer- maybe in the process of trying to answer something you will understand .... I apologize in advance for the harshness of the judgments- and so restrained his evil tongue, making titanic efforts ....
                1. Andrey Skokovsky
                  Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 21: 20
                  0
                  Quote: smile
                  Andrey Skokovsky
                  Andrei, let's leave populist remarks, ....... it is very good that the Central Bank does not have the right to invest in Russia’s debt obligations, because it prevents various kinds of speculation of our banks, and does not prevent raising funds from outside there is no obstacle to these securities to fulfill the role that it is intended for .... And also, in the past comments I asked a question, you didn’t answer it ... no way ... please read the question again and answer, maybe in the process of trying to answer something you will understand ..


                  Regarding populism, I'm sorry, but I'm already tired of the huge amount of emotional text you wrote about nothing, I'm tired of digging out some crumbs that really have at least some sense.

                  about the question at the end that you are hinting at and referring somewhere, sorry but in this thread I answered a lot of questions and am not at all sure what I will find and answer exactly the cherished one that you dream about, please be simpler and JUST ASK , and so that I know what you are asking, they are concise.

                  phew, finally, according to the Central Bank, you are afraid that everyone will plunder,
                  finally understand that in order to "issue - print" 1 ruble on the mint, Russia must definitely buy for 1 ruble these same other people's debts and there is a choice of what to develop Russia or the United States, and that's ALL !!!
                  Are you afraid that in Russia you will lose this money and will not be able to control ???
                  But you already lose their 1000% when you buy US debts, and there you do NOT control them at all, while the USA destroys its debt that your money through direct global inflation.

                  For investments, imagine the times of the USSR
                  the government decided to build a plant, for example, Norilsk Nickel. gave the task to create a project and simply printed money for this plant, after which the factory was built with this money, no inflation occurred, as the country received the factory.

                  And now, what do you offer today:
                  let's invite the investments of "investors" to Russia (the same Rockefeller and Co.) and with this money we will build our industry

                  you do not see the difference in these options at all ???
      5. Denis
        Denis 23 October 2013 02: 19
        +1
        Quote: alekseyal
        Party program.
        Values ​​and Principles
        It is written well, everything pleases
        I am not familiar with the activities of this party, I can’t say good or bad, and it's stupid if you don’t know
        Only I from those times when the school taught the code of the builder of communism, who remembers he will say that it was not written bad
        And then they went outside ...
        Must see in action
        And then I, and not only me, at first believed the head-with-patch, then he poured it very nicely. And then ...
        Everyone knows what then
    2. teleset
      teleset 22 October 2013 13: 06
      +4
      I think as soon as the Americans weaken, they will have to be tried in an international court in the GAG. For their exceptional nation, and all their war crimes against humanity. All that remains for them is the fear to intimidate the whole world and remain an exclusive nation, but this will not last long ...
      1. Andrey Skokovsky
        Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 15: 29
        +4
        Quote: teleset
        I think as soon as the Americans weaken, they will have to be tried in an international court in the GAG. For their exceptional nation, and all their war crimes against humanity. All that remains for them is the fear to intimidate the whole world and remain an exclusive nation, but this will not last long ...


        they know this very well and do not want to be hanged, and the fact that they have already earned for this measure in my 100%
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        2. bogdan
          bogdan 22 October 2013 17: 50
          +2
          Mr. Starikov seems to be speaking correctly, reading many of his articles and works, even reposting them until he came across his complete and tough rejection of the origins of the development of socialism in Russia, that is, the USSR and Stalin are supposedly good, but Lenin and the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks are bad, very tricky - why cut the trunk? - when it is more efficient to cut down the roots, especially when the conditions in terms of education today)) allow. I do not like this gentleman.
          1. alekseyal
            alekseyal 22 October 2013 18: 10
            +1
            Quote: bogdan
            Lenin and VKPb - this is bad

            You probably did not study Starikov’s opinion of Lenin very well.
            1. Starikov says about Lenin that he is certainly a brilliant man.
            2. The activities of Lenin can be divided into two stages.
            The first stage is the destruction of the Russian Empire, here Starikov says that Lenin played a negative role.
            The second stage is the construction of a new state, and here Lenin departed from the role that was intended for him (the destroyer).
            He was the builder of a new state, which again became the geopolitical rival of England.
            Here Lenin played a positive role.
            About socialism, too, have not heard bad reviews Starikov. And then I heard something like this:
            Do not get hung up on all kinds of isms, communism, capitalism. We must take the best from everywhere and reject the bad.
            There should be an ideology of justice and common sense, which has always been inherent in the Russian people.
            Should there be a state hairdresser? I think that is not necessary.
            Should the bowels and all the minerals that they have in it belong to the whole people? I think they should.
            State regulation in the economy should be more. State-owned enterprises operate no worse than private ones.
            Will the head of the oil company work worse if he receives not 10 million dollars a year, but for example 10 million rubles. I don’t think so.

            In the Stalinist USSR there was no egalitarianism. Equalization appeared later under Khrushchev.

            Stalin's USSR
            http://nstarikov.ru/blog/23233
            http://nstarikov.ru/blog/23246
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 22 October 2013 19: 06
        +1
        Quote: teleset
        I think as soon as the Americans weaken, they will have to be tried in an international court in the GAG.


        everybody? belay
        1. alone
          alone 22 October 2013 19: 25
          +4
          what will be judged in groups of 10. The verdict will be issued by triples. The duration of the trial is 000 minutes to read out the verdict. laughing
          1. smile
            smile 22 October 2013 22: 31
            0
            alone
            Yes, why read something, to drive everyone into the Arizona crater, everything is business ... although not, they may not fit there ... well, then it is more voluminous in the Gulf of Mexico ... :)))
        2. smile
          smile 22 October 2013 22: 28
          0
          Botanologist
          C'mon - just a little more than 300 million, what a garbage .... :)))
    3. Albert1988
      Albert1988 22 October 2013 20: 08
      +2
      Quote: Denis
      And his books are all point to point

      Nevertheless, Starikov, to put it mildly, exaggerates the role of England in modern politics. I have a little idea about this issue - fortunately, my father's good friend is a diplomat, before retirement he worked for 12 years at the Russian embassy in the United States. I have been to Albion many times - and so, according to him, England is now a US colony in every sense - a completely controlled state, devoid of its own political will, and the "octopus's head" still sits in the states, and England and Europe are now only tentacles ...
      1. smile
        smile 22 October 2013 22: 34
        0
        Albert1988
        Eh, if only that. Old people. like any of us, he is not an ideal, and often makes mistakes ... but his "election tales" are such terry populism that it even becomes a shame for him ... so sorry to see what involvement in politics does with human ....
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 22 October 2013 23: 24
          0
          Quote: smile
          so sorry to look at what joining politics does with a person

          Alas, alas, as my father's friend, already mentioned by me, once told me - "you can't even imagine how dirty politics really is," so alas and ah (
  2. Canep
    Canep 22 October 2013 07: 39
    +4
    War will be possible to assert this with a probability of 60-70%. American debt is breaking records and, in my opinion, exceeds the total budget of all of Africa. On "defense" the Americans spend more than nine countries following them: China, Russia, Britain, France, Japan, Germany, Saudis, India, Italy, taken together. And in this situation, the use of nuclear weapons will not do. The only way out is to find a way to pay off debts for mattress toppers.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 October 2013 08: 09
      +8
      Quote: Canep
      The Americans spend more on "defense" than the nine countries that follow them: China, Russia, Britain, France, Japan, Germany, Saudis, India, Italy, combined.

      Strongly downplayed, more than the whole world combined.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 22 October 2013 09: 55
        12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Strongly downplayed, more than the whole world put together

        - Well, how would it be such theft that Taburetkin and the girls just nervously smoke on the sidelines laughing With such funding, a bunch of failures in R&D "Comanche", a Superlaser on a Boeing "and a bunch more, lame results in aviation - it's about the Raptor and the F-35, in general, with such superiority in financing over Russia, according to the results, Russia broke away from Russia - well, the gap itself It is difficult to deny in itself - at a ridiculous distance, and in some positions it even lags behind Russia at all, in particular in the air defense system.
        As regards tanks - the party, with the advent of "Armata" there will be no parity. For helicopters - parity. In aviation - almost parity, with the expansion of the fleet of SU-30 and SU-35, with the launch of the PAK FA series - and there will be no parity. Only in the Navy does the United States have superiority. Their Zumwalt is impressive. But this superiority is NOT WORTH nearly 20x the funding edge! They steal in the States, it turns out, everything is on all floors and levels. And in the Pentagon, and in DAPRE, and in the enterprises of the military-industrial complex, Boeings and McDonnells! In Russia, there are only cunning generals like Serdyukov, and then theirs on the sly (it's a pity that slowly and softly! am ) are removed from the game. And the military-industrial complex in Russia, the preserved part of it, is healthy and very competent. We see results even with less than 20 times less funding.
        1. APES
          APES 22 October 2013 11: 30
          +3
          The US Army has only one problem, but the Big One - they can’t fight without the Sneakers and diapers.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 22 October 2013 19: 39
            +1
            Quote: APES
            without the "Sneakers" and "diapers" they cannot fight


            Are we starting to scream again? Then explain how they managed to plunder the floor of the world, including a non-banana country like Iraq? Or did everyone else not even learn to fight in diapers?
            1. APES
              APES 22 October 2013 20: 12
              +5
              Iraq - and there someone strongly resisted? We bought Iraqi generals, entered Bogdat without a fight. They entered Afghanistan - stupidly they threw bucks from turntables.
              what I said, I wanted to say - they are not ready for real big losses.
              Next - look at the real losses of NATO in the same Iraq, and compare them with the loss figures of PMCs (private military companies) - the data can be found.
              In the occupied territories, they stupidly sit in the "green" zones. They barely carried their feet from Somalia, they washed themselves very much there in blood - and they worked there - their elite - "green" berets.

              I think their memory of Vietnam is still strong.

              I believe that since Vietnam they have not had a worthy adversary.
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 22 October 2013 21: 59
                +1
                Quote: APES
                We bought Iraqi generals, entered Bogdat without a fight. They entered Afghanistan - stupidly they threw bucks from turntables.


                About without a fight in Baghdad is beautiful. I wonder where the carpet paths that the generals bought spread out. Well, of course, you have not read about the Sunni resistance and the Shiite uprising.

                Quote: APES
                I believe that since Vietnam they have not had a worthy adversary.


                He is still gone. Therefore, from your point of view, we declare the US Army weak, demoralized and stupid.
                1. APES
                  APES 22 October 2013 22: 29
                  0
                  Notice that I was silent about the obesity of their soldiers - a blow below the waist.

                  Seriously, I’ll supplement my thought:

                  The first, serious defeat, with heavy losses, could turn into a catastrophe for the USA - a collapse, and irreversible.

                  About resistance, it’s not for nothing that I mentioned PMCs - they solve issues for now.

                  I will reveal military secrets: Russia is able to neutralize ALL (I emphasize ALL) of their tomahawks within one hour - guess how. or rather consider it a joke.


                  Quote: Botanologist
                  We declare the US Army weak, demoralized and stupid.

                  I didn’t say this, I didn’t even mean it, but in order not to be like that she needs sneakers and diapers
                  1. Botanologist
                    Botanologist 22 October 2013 22: 52
                    +1
                    Quote: APES
                    Russia is able to neutralize ALL (I emphasize ALL) of their tomahawks within one hour - guess how. or rather consider it a joke.


                    I'd rather consider it a joke. Or are you ready to present gravitsapu?
                    1. APES
                      APES 22 October 2013 22: 55
                      0
                      I would like Topol-M, at least, for only 5 minutes fellow
                      1. alone
                        alone 22 October 2013 23: 00
                        0
                        Quote: APES
                        I would like Topol-M, at least, for only 5 minutes


                        what I imagine what you would do in these 5 minutes belay
                2. aksakal
                  aksakal 22 October 2013 22: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: Botanologist
                  Quote: APES
                  We bought Iraqi generals, entered Bogdat without a fight. They entered Afghanistan - stupidly they threw bucks from turntables.


                  About without a fight in Baghdad is beautiful. I wonder where the carpet paths that the generals bought spread out. Well, of course, you have not read about the Sunni resistance and the Shiite uprising.

                  Quote: APES
                  I believe that since Vietnam they have not had a worthy adversary.


                  He is still gone. Therefore, from your point of view, we declare the US Army weak, demoralized and stupid.
                  - Yes, where does hurray? There are only facts. The Americans spend more on the Pentagon with the dapra than the rest of the WORLD, and we here, according to the results, point to the result, just a real result. Yes, we even ask our most ardent opponents here, well, at least even the Israelis - Professor or Atalef - what will happen if such funding is offered to the same Raphael, Elbit and others? So they will immediately write down what will happen and thereby acknowledge that there is absolutely no order with the US weapons. And what about that - to spread half the world, so the USSR quite recently, by historical standards, ruined half the world, and not just anyone, but half of Europe - and these are Germany, Italy, Hungarians (by the way, Budapest put up even more fierce resistance to Soviet troops than Berlin), the French against The USSR fought 3 times more than in the entire French Resistance movement, then it was the turn of the Japanese million-strong Kwantung Army, and in the end, literally a couple of years later, South Korea and the USA got a couple of them. It would have gotten even more, but the States already had a Colt in their bosom, which the Union did not have. This is half the world, this is what I understand. And what opponents in this beaten half of the world! Bogatyrs are not US semi-banana opponents, opponents laugh at the chickens. In Iraq, only Fallujah put up worthy resistance, and so-so resistance, Grozny at one time defended himself more seriously against Troshev. Even so, the Americans could not take Fallujah, they stupidly equalized it with B-52s with prohibited bombs. In short, the Americans are so-so "frustrated", and they know it very well. Were you in Syria? Is it because they sensed unkindness? Namely - that they will be shocked in a way that their mother has never poured in their entire life! Stop it, Botanologist, there is no urya-patriotism in my words, I don't care about amers. I don’t like Israelis, but I admit - these are the ones who know how to fight, I will not say anything here. Only for amers do not prove to me, do not tell me.
                  1. Botanologist
                    Botanologist 22 October 2013 22: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: aksakal
                    Americans spend more on the Pentagon with dapra more than the rest of the rest of the WORLD, and here we point out the result, just a real result.


                    I'm not talking about the budget. I doubted the statement that the Yankees do not fight without diapers. I understand that this is a hyperbole, but you don’t need to look like a great eagle to laugh at the enemy. As a rule, such a laugh is the last in life.

                    Quote: aksakal
                    not in my words Urya-patriotism, I do not care about amers.


                    I did not call for respect or worship. I just think that you need to laugh only at the enemy you defeated.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 22 October 2013 08: 15
      +4
      at the same time, Rockefeller could easily pay off the debt, and there would still be.
      1. Denis
        Denis 22 October 2013 08: 34
        +5
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Rockefeller could easily pay off debt
        Berezovsky until he died could not buy yachts either
        1. Renat
          Renat 22 October 2013 09: 51
          +4
          Oh, how I would not like a third world. But it seems that this is the only way out for the world "gendarme". But do the Yankees themselves understand all the consequences of a global war? Or, somewhere on Mars, have already been built cottages for the resettlement of the committee of 300, if something happens?
          1. APES
            APES 22 October 2013 11: 28
            +1
            in Altai - and in some other places that will never, under any circumstances, be exposed to any threat.
            1. 222222
              222222 22 October 2013 13: 54
              0
              We are all in the same ship named Earth! As we operate this ship - we are in such safety .....
            2. Andrey Skokovsky
              Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 00: 36
              +1
              Quote: APES
              in Altai - and in some other places that will never, under any circumstances, be exposed to any threat.

              I think one of these places is called -Switzerland
              just look at her army
              1. Denis
                Denis 23 October 2013 02: 41
                0
                Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
                Switzerland
                just look at her army
                The most powerful army
                Ishak loaded with gold will take a fortress, which the whole army will not take
      2. Renat
        Renat 22 October 2013 13: 31
        +4
        And about Rockefeller, well, he won’t repay his debts to himself.
    3. 222222
      222222 22 October 2013 12: 45
      +1
      And who among the classics spoke about the impossibility of wars and the termination of the use of such a means as "War" and "as a means of continuing politics" in the presence of states and their interests? ("War is the continuation of politics by other means. Any war is inseparably connected with the political system from which it flows. The very policy that a second well-known power, a certain class within this power led for a long time before the war, inevitably and inevitably this the class itself continues during the war, changing only the form of action. "
      (V. And Lenin "War and Revolution")
  3. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 22 October 2013 07: 40
    +7
    [i] "And today the United States is such a big torso, with the help of which bankers establish the order they need in the world." [/ i] - are not these bankers trying by all means to worsen relations between China and Russia, because it is in their interests ... [i] "The Sino-American conspiracy has taken place. It was prepared in early June 2013 in Shanghai by Kissinger and Jiang Zemin. Then, in July, Xi Jinping had a breakthrough meeting with Obama in California. Now the coordination of the plan and procedure of the Chinese and American sides to enter the second wave of the crisis is being led by the President of Singapore Lee Senlun, for Hong Kong is the Rothschilds settlement and cash center, while Singapore is the Rockefeller cash settlement center. Russia is faced with a crafty choice between bad and very bad. Very bad is a full-scale pull into the Bolshoi The war is on the side of Syria. The bad thing is an emergency military alliance with China as an addition to the 2001 Good Neighborly Friendship and Mutual Assistance Treaty. For such a military alliance will allow China to send its rear guard troops to Central Asia and thus prevent the spread of the Great War on territories covering vital interests of Russia. "
    see http: //www.imperiya.by/aac25-17999.html hi
  4. a52333
    a52333 22 October 2013 07: 46
    +1
    The new age will certainly be the age of spirituality. Look: only Russia with its keen sense of justice can take off its last shirt and break the last loaf of bread in half.
    This is probably the first time that, after Starikov’s quote, I put a question mark. What's again? Maybe we should not?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 October 2013 08: 11
      +6
      Quote: a52333
      What's again? Maybe we should not?

      Then go to Europe or the USA, there is no smell of spirituality there. You will be happy and free from spirituality.
      1. a52333
        a52333 22 October 2013 08: 59
        +4
        and break in half the last loaf of bread.
        I am on this part of the statement. Oh well them in FIG, all these Somalia and Sudan. Spirituality has nothing to do with it. That is, if everyone is given, the bed breaks.
        1. Trapperxnumx
          Trapperxnumx 22 October 2013 14: 46
          +1
          Quote: a52333
          and break in half the last loaf of bread.
          I am on this part of the statement. Oh well them in FIG, all these Somalia and Sudan. Spirituality has nothing to do with it. That is, if everyone is given, the bed breaks.

          Nenene, it seems to me here about something else. The author simply indicated that it is inherent in the Russian people, that is, self-sacrifice and selfless help. It seems that the author did not call anywhere to give up everything and go to build hospitals in Afghanistan.
      2. 6 sunrise 9
        6 sunrise 9 22 October 2013 09: 08
        +2
        Are you happy in the EU? Not there already complete ... well, complete shorter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lo7WfxIOGE

        There are hundreds of such videos in the internet .. while this video is still "soft"
    2. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 15: 33
      +3
      Quote: a52333
      The new age will certainly be the age of spirituality. Look: only Russia with its keen sense of justice can take off its last shirt and break the last loaf of bread in half.
      This is probably the first time that, after Starikov’s quote, I put a question mark. What's again? Maybe we should not?

      you just didn’t understand Starikov,
      he talks about the ability to sacrifice and the desire for justice, which are inherent in the Russian world and which are not in the world of the West
  5. lotar
    lotar 22 October 2013 08: 09
    +4
    The fact that sooner or later I will have no doubts. The only question is when? Will we be ready? Who will be the aggressor? The future will answer all these and many other questions. In my opinion, the main rivals are the USA and China, and which of they don’t know worse yet. And what will happen if they join forces. We must make sure that both of them are not profitable to fight with us. And this is only possible if all their preparations are not useful to them.
    1. APES
      APES 22 October 2013 11: 37
      +6
      Existing World War II detonators:
      1. Iran - Israel
      2. India - Pakistan
      3. North Korea + China - South Korea + USA
      4. China - India

      Where it starts, I think you can only guess. My opinion is that Russia needs to stay away from direct clashes for as long as possible, but at the same time help someone who needs weapons, information, resources, etc.

      For myself, I can say - I do not want to participate in this, definitely.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 22 October 2013 11: 41
        +3
        That's the whole point that it will not work to stay away. We will have to make a choice, we will be forced to make it. He is right — a GREAT war is inevitable!
        1. APES
          APES 22 October 2013 12: 19
          0
          Quote: Den 11
          That's just the point that it will not work to stay away

          This script did not indicate, as I hope, but:
          Russia will not be able to stay on the sidelines, and will have to act literally from the first minutes - this is: Nagorno-Karabakh, or Azerbaijan-Armenia (and there are Turkey and Iran, and everyone is not lazy).
          Just do not understand the policy of Russia, in the part that Russia supplies weapons to Azerbaijan.
          Or it will stay away, but this is goodbye to the CSTO
        2. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 15: 36
          +1
          Quote: Den 11
          That's the whole point that it will not work to stay away. We will have to make a choice, we will be forced to make it. He is right — a GREAT war is inevitable!

          but you can try to pull it back and try to stay away
      2. Andrey Skokovsky
        Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 00: 47
        +1
        Quote: APES
        Existing World War II detonators:
        1. Iran - Israel
        2. India - Pakistan
        3. North Korea + China - South Korea + USA
        4. China - India
        Where it starts, I think you can only guess. My opinion is that Russia needs to stay away from direct clashes for as long as possible, but at the same time help someone who needs weapons, information, resources, etc.
        For myself, I can say - I do not want to participate in this, definitely.

        In principle, if they really want to rattle with weapons, that is, the options are better, anyway, I like it more

        5. California + Nevada + Arizona - Texas + New Mexico
        6. Alabama + Mississippi + Georgia - Kansas + Nebraska
        7. USA South and West - United States East + Canada
    2. Syrdon
      Syrdon 22 October 2013 12: 40
      +1
      the main battlefield is the Middle East and most likely Africa, the main striking force is radical Islamists, if necessary, our "partners" can plant a tactical nuclear charge, the main goal is to weaken China's position, the secondary goal is Russia.
      1. APES
        APES 22 October 2013 12: 47
        +2
        This scenario is similar to the scenario of the Second World War, where instead of fascism radical Islam will appear. This scenario did not indicate, because I had the impression that they began to refuse it. One of the reasons is that the flow may not go where they want, but flood, for example, into Europe, since there are all conditions.
  6. Alikovo
    Alikovo 22 October 2013 08: 12
    +7
    as long as america is alive as a country, they will always unleash wars.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 22 October 2013 11: 51
      +5
      Maybe, after all, not America, but those who all of this ... control the hands of America?
    2. AVV
      AVV 22 October 2013 11: 58
      +1
      Look at the root, who benefits, then the questions will be answered! As long as the Fed is in private hands, wars will be inevitable !!! As long as the military-industrial complex has its own lobby in Congress, the interests of the military-industrial complex and the fed will be the same !!!
  7. saag
    saag 22 October 2013 08: 24
    +7
    a strange feeling comes to me, reading these lines, I recall somewhere once read lines "the magician, before taking the rabbit out of his hat, diverts the audience's attention", and after reading the program of Starikov's party "The Great Fatherland Party" the feeling of strangeness is aggravated, because the impression from the program dual, as if they want the communist ideology and at the same time to remain in capitalism, so as not to suddenly become unhappy with hands, earlier, in Soviet times, such vacillators were called liberals and depicted in a caricature as a balancing act on a tightrope.
    1. alekseyal
      alekseyal 22 October 2013 10: 22
      +3
      It is necessary to take better and remove unnecessary.
      There should be an ideology of justice, which has always been inherent in the Russian people. Do not get hung up on all kinds of isms, communism, capitalism.
      Should there be a state hairdresser? I think that is not necessary.
      Should the bowels and all the minerals that they have in it belong to the whole people? I think they should.
      Will the head of the oil company work worse if he receives not 10 million dollars a year, but for example 10 million rubles. I don’t think so.
      In the Stalinist USSR there was no egalitarianism. Equalization appeared later under Khrushchev.

      Remembering the USSR
      http://nstarikov.ru/blog/23233
      http://nstarikov.ru/blog/23246
      1. 222222
        222222 22 October 2013 11: 12
        -6
        "There must be an ideology of justice, ...." How's that? Under a capitalist state, yes ideology of justice? Yes, you, my friend, drive .. the injustice itself is inherent in the private ownership of the means of production, in their accessibility for some and not for others. And hence the unfair distribution of wealth., And hence the different standard of living of people ...
        "There was no leveling in the Stalinist USSR .." And what about the system of various benefits for officials at various levels of the party and state apparatus? Yes, it still remains ... although it fell into capitalism ..
  8. TAIM
    TAIM 22 October 2013 08: 32
    +7
    STATES are increasingly becoming a fascist state. their machine suppresses any manifestation of independence in thinking that is different from their point of view, both within their own country and throughout the world. their law and their image of democracy as they understand it dominates the planet.
    1. APES
      APES 22 October 2013 11: 40
      -1
      How they see themselves - what they are trying to go to - see the "star landing".
      If I am not mistaken, there was not a single Negro in this film.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 22 October 2013 13: 08
        0
        Quote: APES
        If I am not mistaken, there was not a single Negro in this film.

        You are mistaken, one was .......
        1. APES
          APES 22 October 2013 13: 27
          0
          Sorry, I didn’t remember him ....
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 22 October 2013 15: 16
        0
        Quote: APES
        If I am not mistaken, there was not a single Negro in this film.

        It was a black woman. laughing She was expelled after an accident in training.
  9. 6 sunrise 9
    6 sunrise 9 22 October 2013 08: 50
    +7
    The Americans will unleash a war, but not with their own hands. There is Islam, in the EU in 20 years Muslims will slaughter indigenous Europeans and establish a caliphate, with Sharia. Well, after this European caliphate (4 reich) will announce the jihad of the Russian Federation and then the big war will begin. And the Americans will sell weapons and welded a hefty dough on this. It’s also good for them to make war in India and the PRC with the help of Muslims in India, there are more than 100 million of them, in the PRC there are Uighurs. It seems to me precisely for this reason that secular regimes in the BV are being destroyed - Libya, Syria. If Syria falls, then Iran will be next, and this is right at our borders. While I was banned here, I decided to go through Muslim forums and you know they just dream about a caliphate. Everywhere and everywhere it is spread out, the idea of ​​the Caliphate uniting all Muslims. And some of them are like fucking fascists (although for me Islam is fascism ... it’s only based not on race, but on religion), they say that Islam will take over the world in the 21st century. In short, America will use these Muslims and if you can, it will not let them win. But as you know, after this war, she will be in the most favorable position ... will squat across the ocean. And the Russian Federation will again suffer millions of losses.

    anyone who disbelieves me - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lo7WfxIOGE
    See what the former Muslim says - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw857Zu9Yz4
    1. hrych
      hrych 22 October 2013 11: 54
      +5
      Enough of mysticism, we need statistics. In Western Europe, more than 700 million people and this white population, slums with muslims are a miserable minority, but the local population got no less than the Caucasians in Russia, respectively, nationalist parties are more and more popular every year, now it is on average 30%, but Alain Delon became a nationalist. Britain is a separate story, the article says that there are crazy degenerates on the throne. Already begun in Europe to adopt anti-migrant laws (Russia is no exception), a recent scandal when a girl was removed from a school bus and thrown out of the country. This is the beginning, but in the end they will throw away the overhead (the Poles and Lithuanians replaced the dirty ones with swarthy ones), not only opposition and dirty tricks on the part of migrants, they will only strengthen and speed up this process. Europe will be white, like Russia. Further according to the plan voiced by A. Pike. The philistine population of Europe should have been brought to the left of the aliens (Russia is no exception) and ready for a new crusade on, say, not very white, for their complete destruction, as a bonus - oil reserves of the subsoil. Worse - poor in Europe, democracy and the people can decide their fate by voting, in Russia - an imitation of democracy, but the elite is forced to listen to the people in the form of relevant laws, otherwise it will lose power and at least get dirty with its Eurasian ideas, but will be swept away to create a Russian state the crowd will lose their property, and maybe their bodies.
      1. catapractic
        catapractic 22 October 2013 21: 28
        +4
        Russian state, it remains to clarify its borders and what Russianness is. It is not necessary to create a Russian state, but to create a new Russian empire and it does not matter what it is called = Russia or the USSR.
        1. hrych
          hrych 23 October 2013 00: 05
          +2
          The Russian state within the Russian Federation, with the abolition of the Federation and their subjects. Of course, it is impossible to stay within the borders when NATO is selected on the one hand, and fundamental Islam on the other hand, it is necessary to move forward, not wait. We must pay tribute to the Caucasus all exactly and that thanks to the impudence of Mishiko, they themselves would not have decided.
    2. catapractic
      catapractic 22 October 2013 21: 24
      0
      my brother simplified it a little, but in general, it’s just that Islam today is not fascism — it’s something cooler. Islam today entered the period of religious wars characteristic of Europe of the 16th century (Bartholomew’s night ...), and this is an order of magnitude worse than any fascism, given that these animals have a medieval mentality
  10. Egoza
    Egoza 22 October 2013 08: 51
    11
    And he, the people, so far wants results, as in China, and methods, as in today's Russia.

    And here I do not agree with N. Starikov. Did people ask anyone? In my opinion, people have ALREADY ACHIEVED that he will vote for Chinese methods with both hands.
    1. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 15: 49
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      And he, the people, so far wants results, as in China, and methods, as in today's Russia.

      And here I do not agree with N. Starikov. Did people ask anyone? In my opinion, people have ALREADY ACHIEVED that he will vote for Chinese methods with both hands.

      people will vote, but firstly it’s not a fact that GDP will live to see the results of its reforms by using similar methods, remember the history and disagreements at the top of the government today
      it is today that there is an explanation at the top of the need for a tougher course .... so far more
  11. 528Obrp
    528Obrp 22 October 2013 09: 10
    +3
    Article +, Although a lot of conspiracy theories. There are controversial places. Although in general most of the article is the reality of our time.
    "After gaining control over Iran, the West will be able, instead of buying gas from us, to bring down gas prices." I will offer my interpretation: cheap gas goes to States a, then - "There is only desire forwork as soon as possible and as much as possible " kills the slate. Do states need this?
    Russia's proposal to get rid of the "oil damnation" smacks of a suicidal smell. Oil and gas is not only our wealth and wealth, it is also our weapon.
    and very effective. The West has cornered itself: a big conflict in the Middle East
    - high oil prices - death to the economy of the EU and China
    - Low oil prices - the death of oil shale in the States.
    But a huge minus for us is the spread of radicalism from the conflict region. And here "We were united with Syria by a common danger."
    "What, besides natural resources and the military machine, into which trillions of rubles are now being directed, can ensure Russia's competitiveness in the world?" - unfortunately not very much, spirituality and disinterestedness are of little value in our world. IMHO
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 22 October 2013 09: 49
      -4
      I would like to add a couple of strokes to your comment:
      England stood behind the deaths of many Russian rulers - there are no real facts by itself, and the rest is from the field of speculation, many of which can be interpreted in different ways.
      For those who have forgotten: the US has already used nuclear weapons in 1945 - and more conscientiously since then obviously did not.
      1. alekseyal
        alekseyal 22 October 2013 10: 36
        +5
        Quote: v.lyamkin
        England stood behind the deaths of many Russian rulers - there are no real facts by itself

        The participation of the British in the conspiracy against Paul I is a historical fact.
        After this, a Russian detachment was immediately recalled from a campaign in India (a colony of England).
        England has always tried to eliminate the threat to itself and its competitors through conspiracies and intelligence operations.
        And this is just one example. There are many more examples to cite.
        Recently, information appeared, the British themselves admitted to the murder
        Rasputin and Patrice Lumumba.
        http://www.kp.ru/daily/24571.3/742509
        http://www.utro.ru/articles/2013/04/02/1110773.shtml
        1. v.lyamkin
          v.lyamkin 23 October 2013 05: 35
          0
          What are you so minuses instructed. I also do not respect England, and on the whole with its assessment as a provocateur, dirty trick, etc. I agree. I just tried to give an opinion about history as such. After all, it is always rewritten as profitable or understood at the moment. And we simply do not have the opportunity to determine the truth of even seemingly immutable facts. Moreover, even real facts can be interpreted if desired and quite plausibly in different ways.
          For example: Recently, information appeared, the British themselves admitted to the murder
          Rasputin and Patrice Lumumba.
          The executor of the murder directly admitted and brought irrefutable evidence or did the sick man let the duck go? Therefore, I do not change my opinion and agree with 528Obrp
      2. 528Obrp
        528Obrp 22 October 2013 10: 39
        +4
        Quote: v.lyamkin
        no real facts by itself

        These are the realities: good deeds are not noticed or forgotten,
        the evil ones carefully hide; birds like Snowden are very rare.
  12. alekseyal
    alekseyal 22 October 2013 10: 12
    +3
    Quote: 528Obrp
    One thing I don’t understand is what to do with the “dead” generation without conscience and principles living “in this country”? But these are mainly young people, and young people determine the future of the country

    Not so bad. There are now normal youth.
    For example, the sobriety movement is growing. "Russian means sober" when did this slogan appear? 3-4 years ago.
    Has youth anti-drug special forces appeared long ago?
    Russian runs have also recently appeared.
    And this despite the fact that there is no state policy on the education of patriotism.

    There should be a state policy on patriotic education and then there will be more patriots.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 22 October 2013 15: 23
      +2
      Quote: alekseyal
      Not so bad. There are now normal youth.

      Unfortunately, these are exceptions. I hope so far.
      Quote: alekseyal
      There should be a state policy on patriotic education and then there will be more patriots.

      I agree with this completely. good
  13. Alex66
    Alex66 22 October 2013 10: 29
    +1
    Putiners - for the Rothschilds and the economic independence of Russia
    How to understand this?
    It’s like at home the owner keeps the cat, but does not allow him to catch mice. Roughly, but to hell with us the Rothschilds, they are not philanthropists.
  14. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 22 October 2013 10: 44
    0
    Quote: If you want the same rate of economic growth as in China, the country should be in the same order as in China.
    Economic growth in Russia cannot be like in China because in China, bribe-takers and embezzlers receive the highest measure for their actions - execution, and we (remember the former Minister of Defense Serdyukov) are completely unpunished! Any construction, any event (remember Father Russky in Vladivostok, Olympic construction projects, etc.) accompanied by huge theft of budget funds. And silence... One who is trying in such circumstances to revive the Russian economy is a stupid idealist.
    1. alekseyal
      alekseyal 22 October 2013 11: 15
      +3
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      in China bribe-takers and embezzlers receive capital punishment for their acts - execution

      Item from the air defense program.
      Decisive fight against crime. Denial of moratorium on capital punishment for grave crimes: betrayal of the motherland, crimes against children, drug trafficking, terrorism, corruption (on a large scale). Confiscation of property of criminals for such crimes.
      1. Starfish
        Starfish 22 October 2013 12: 22
        0
        Are you a simple member of the Air Defense Party? or one of its leaders?
        1. alekseyal
          alekseyal 22 October 2013 13: 09
          0
          A simple member of the air defense party.
    2. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 22 October 2013 15: 53
      +2
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Quote: If you want the same rate of economic growth as in China, the country should be in the same order as in China.
      Economic growth in Russia cannot be like in China because in China, bribe-takers and embezzlers receive the highest measure for their actions - execution, and we (remember the former Minister of Defense Serdyukov) are completely unpunished! Any construction, any event (remember Father Russky in Vladivostok, Olympic construction projects, etc.) accompanied by huge theft of budget funds. And silence... One who is trying in such circumstances to revive the Russian economy is a stupid idealist.

      going will overcome the road
      remember 90's and compare with today
      easy to destroy, hard to build
  15. thinking
    thinking 22 October 2013 11: 24
    0
    why don't we have a public list of terrorist organizations and individuals, and with it the countries that support them, and which need to be pressed for it?
  16. Day 11
    Day 11 22 October 2013 11: 25
    +3
    Eh (dreamily), the Russia-China-Germany alliance --- a terrible dream for arrogant Saxons!
    1. APES
      APES 22 October 2013 11: 44
      +3
      Reminded:

      Optimists learn Chinese
      Pessimists teach the Kalashnikov assault rifle

      Sorry.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 22 October 2013 13: 16
        0
        Quote: APES
        Optimists learn Chinese
        Pessimists teach the Kalashnikov assault rifle

        Sorry.

        Let me clarify:
        Optimists learn Chinese, pessimists learn English, and realists learn Kalashnikov. So let’s be realists .....
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 22 October 2013 12: 02
      +3
      Quote: Den 11
      Eh (dreamily)

      Poland's Poland was ALWAYS between Germany and Russia, and only Catherine II managed to remove this obstacle for a while. And now the question is that Ukraine has chosen to follow Poland's sycophantic policy as its goal ...
      And the fact that Germany can be a faithful ally with equal relations does not raise questions.

      It is better to be friends with the Germans than to fight, except of course during the Second World War, when the USSR was historically called upon to eliminate the brown tumor that had hit Germany.
      The USSR, as it were, didn’t sound strange to the Germans, it saved not only Europe, but primarily the Germans themselves from fascism ...
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 22 October 2013 12: 17
        +1
        Hitler, of course ubl-to still that, but he just understood all this alignment even then. Reformatting of the world is a task! And Stalin understood it. At the expense of Ekaterina, everything is right. So it is possible to try to do it (there is a precedent)
  17. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 22 October 2013 11: 38
    +3
    Starikov’s books are easy to read, well-written. Is there anything fresh?
    1. alekseyal
      alekseyal 22 October 2013 13: 14
      +6
      Geopolitics. How it is done (The freshest)
      The word "geopolitics" has firmly entered our lives. What are they - the geopolitical interests of Russia today? What were they like before? Has anything changed over the past centuries? New book by Nikolai Starikov, bestselling author “Crisis: how to do it”, “Stalin. We recall together ”,“ Nationalization of the ruble ”, which simply and clearly explains the essence of what is happening on the world chessboard.

      Using many examples, known and little known, the author shows how the principles of geopolitics are implemented in practice. Moreover, the course of history immediately becomes understandable, and the actions of statesmen who were considered “inexplicable” are filled with logic and meaning.

      http://nstarikov.ru/books/29544
  18. APES
    APES 22 October 2013 11: 53
    +2
    The fight against corruption in modern Russia:

    The Ministry of Internal Affairs Orchestra uncovered a criminal scheme for extracting fake notes.
  19. Python Kaa
    Python Kaa 22 October 2013 12: 34
    +1
    If - quite frankly, then - it’s sore. Somehow everything is so dull and obvious ...
    Well, are you tired of studying in one class for the tenth year? I would like - and perhaps I’ll do it - to turn off the Internet, and get acquainted with the girls on the street.
  20. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 22 October 2013 12: 40
    +2
    I respect N. Starikov and fully support his position.
    Everything fits into the puzzle: who is Sir D. Washington - a traitor, or a hero?
  21. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 22 October 2013 13: 47
    +1
    With everything else, I cannot help but admire the people who led the United States out of a third-rate country on the outskirts of the world into world hegemons, but for me they are enemies, but still, to force the whole world to first cut each other in the First World War, thus removing the "old guard" in the face of the former hegemon of Great Britain, making a meek poodle out of a lion on a leash, obediently following the orders of the owner, simultaneously humiliating Germany and destroying France forever, leaving only a pale semblance, but the main trick of course was turned with Russia, moving it from the club of winners to the garbage pit along with the loser Germany. Yes, the Bolsheviks a little "did not fit into the scenario" and had to arrange "massacre number 2", which finally destroyed Europe and all the enormous power over the world was concentrated in Washington. Then make the whole world hunt for your candy wrappers in the form of FRS dollars, giving everything for the cut paper, which connected us with the United States better than the occupying army. The only thing that the creators of the "New World Order" did not take into account was that the weakest link in the entire chain was it is the United States itself, which, in the absence of a target for robbery, are forced to devour themselves.
  22. from Kiev
    from Kiev 22 October 2013 14: 34
    0
    Quote: Alex66
    but to hell with us the Rothschilds, they are not philanthropists.

    In my opinion, this is something of judo when the strength of the opponent (the West) himself is used against himself.
  23. Kostya pedestrian
    Kostya pedestrian 22 October 2013 14: 49
    -7
    Applause to the author! When I woke up, huh? Just a bear-connecting rod-all-seeing eye, not from Glasgow by chance ?!

    And when "Mistral" sang did not hear?

    Personally, Mistral is in tune with "miss A-WTC- (RA) -liya" (missing Paradise), besides, if I were a professional helicopter pilot as my friends from South Africa advised me, well, like those that are in Afghanistan pamizh (do not confuse from Microsoft Correction "Pumi") rocks were fidgeting, collecting fungi on ShShSklonami, then I could say that I, figuratively, managed my KA-52 helicopter () * () to successfully land on the very tank of one of the prototypes of the future support of the deployment of the attack from sea ​​bridgehead.

    As A.S. liked to joke. Pushkin, sitting in Holden near Lukamorya: "Winter, the peasant triumphs!"

    And the USA well done! It was necessary to give the Russian GRU the Batman logo! Interestingly, how many Kaiser royalties does Arkan withdraw from the GRU for copy-rights? The fact that ODON unfastens the Mitsubishi, and so their home video is visible as they sing in the ranks .. Or are they shkotskie masons, who chase the teeth of the dragon (Orthodox paste), but then the question is: will they still steal from the god of art? Suicides ?, Well, what do Russians keep for rams, is it any highlander (Heil Lander) knows, but USAAssovtsev? This is how to compare Johnny Walker Blue and Johnny Walker Green. As Dr. Livesey from Kievnauchfilm said: And the stronger the whiskey, The shorter, sirs, will be your days.


    And now on the topic: remember “Just Maria”, so many Baptists are struggling to unravel the mystery about the holy spirit and the sieve, I have my own interpretation of “The Teutons leaked”

    Pies: By the way, for Tatars, watch the movie "The Bouncer" (2011) starring Seann William Scott - a cool Chewbacca from the movie "Dude, Where's My Car". There, by the way, the theme of the mistrals is visible. Thanks again to Hollywood, both actors and directors, as Zadornov used to say in a cartoon about the KGB. By the way, the sun in Latvian sounds "Saul"
    1. nurlangali
      nurlangali 23 October 2013 14: 21
      0
      smile where did you get it, can you sleep?
      1. Kostya pedestrian
        Kostya pedestrian 24 October 2013 17: 03
        0
        Then you hit the nail on the head! It’s time to let the machine gun cool, otherwise I’m surrounded by Nazi spirits and Nazi conspiracies. Wherever you look, the Mercier with cat hooks, the siemens, all the sysmic catastrophes and explosions will come up, the Foltwagens with autogenes, the lost ships still cannot be salvaged. In short, I’m better at breadcrumbs and look Chelyabinsk -2 in sideskrin.
  24. Djozz
    Djozz 22 October 2013 15: 11
    0
    The Strasbourg court sent three letters of Poles on the "Katyn case", but it didn't work out to cut down the grandmothers from Russia!
  25. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 22 October 2013 17: 06
    +5
    why should we look at China, invent a bicycle. we had Stalin - there was order, there was education, there was science, there was industry, the army. we have nothing to learn from anyone. just remember yours.
  26. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 22 October 2013 17: 58
    0
    The fact that the British killed Paul the First is a proven historical fact today. You can find these facts, for example, in the writings of the founder of geopolitics of the American admiral Mahan - he tells in detail how everything was, what anti-British steps the Russian emperor took and what it could lead to

    Paul the First was killed not by the British, but by his highest dignitaries and guard officers.
    Spaniard de Ribas (Deribas), German Benningsen, Serb Depreradovich, Russians Panin, Uvarov, Zubov, Talyzin took part in the conspiracy. The organizer of the conspiracy was Ostzey German Palen, Governor-General of St. Petersburg and the head of the secret police.
    It is possible, but not proven, that the British gave the conspirators money that they did not need, since they were well-off people (all counts and barons).
    Where did the American nerd and military theorist Admiral Mahan come from? He had nothing to do with British diplomats and intelligence officers, he lived all his life in USA, was born 40 years after the murder of Paul 1.
    The British undoubtedly climbed into the internal affairs of many states (and who didn’t?), But they did not have noticeable successes.
    1. alekseyal
      alekseyal 22 October 2013 18: 25
      +2
      Paul, in a sense, was an idealistic knight. He, along with the British, fought against the anti-monarchist anti-monarchical regime in France. But when I saw how the Austrians belonged to the Russian soldier, we recall at least Suvorov in the Alps, he didn’t climb there himself, the Austrians brought him there, and left without maps, without everything. There was a terrible betrayal. Thank God that our field marshal managed to overcome this situation with honor. But it undermined his health. Upon his return, he immediately died. Pavel, of course, managed to award him, to honor, but Suvorov after that dies. So, Paul decides to change the policy of Russia by 180 degrees. He concludes a contract with Napoleon and breaks off relations with Austria and England. And then he decides to send Russian troops along with the French to India. And then a conspiracy takes place on English money. The English ambassador, Lord Whitworth, organizes a conspiracy, pays for this rotten elite, which kills its sovereign. After this, a Russian detachment was immediately recalled from a campaign in India (a colony of England).
      England has always tried to eliminate the threat to itself and its competitors through conspiracies and intelligence operations.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 22 October 2013 19: 20
        0
        Quote: alekseyal
        And then a conspiracy takes place on English money. The English ambassador, Lord Whitworth, organizes a conspiracy, pays for this rotten elite, which kills its sovereign. After this, a Russian detachment was immediately recalled from a campaign in India (a colony of England).
        England has always tried to eliminate the threat to itself and its competitors through conspiracies and intelligence operations.

        Alexei, the British would not have enough money to buy Vice Chancellor Panin, Governor General Palen, and the commanders of the regiments of Semenovsky, Kavalergardsky, Preobrazhensky were people of honor and were not for sale.
        The conspiracy and the regicide were Russian, but the heir Alexander 1 was an Anglophile.
        1. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 01: 02
          +1
          Quote: Corsair5912
          Quote: alekseyal
          And then a conspiracy takes place on English money. The English ambassador, Lord Whitworth, organizes a conspiracy, pays for this rotten elite, which kills its sovereign. After this, a Russian detachment was immediately recalled from a campaign in India (a colony of England).
          England has always tried to eliminate the threat to itself and its competitors through conspiracies and intelligence operations.

          Alexei, the British would not have enough money to buy Vice Chancellor Panin, Governor General Palen, and the commanders of the regiments of Semenovsky, Kavalergardsky, Preobrazhensky were people of honor and were not for sale.
          The conspiracy and the regicide were Russian, but the heir Alexander 1 was an Anglophile.


          Sorry, but you approach the question too directly, not everything is bought directly, there are many methods, including not for money, or do you need all of its participants to write a confession in the presence of a couple of witnesses? and those witnesses also wrote memoirs on the subject? so what?

          the conspiracy is perfectly visible when considering the situation as a whole, it is logical and best suits the interests of the parties
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 23 October 2013 19: 49
            0
            Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
            the agreement is clearly visible when considering the situation as a whole, it is logical and maximally meets the interests of the parties

            The conspirators who killed Paul had us against the British and their interests, they acted in their own interests, hoping for the mercy of the heir to the throne, Alexander 1, but did not receive what they wanted, were removed from office, deported, poisoned, etc. The regicide in Russia did not favor.
  27. saag
    saag 22 October 2013 19: 05
    0
    By the way, why does the Great Fatherland party have such a pathos name? For example, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union - the name is purely working, but what opportunities were
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 23 October 2013 00: 35
      -1
      Quote: saag
      why does the Great Fatherland party have such a pathos name?

      Maybe because they support Great Putin?smile
    2. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2013 01: 07
      +1
      Quote: saag
      By the way, why does the Great Fatherland party have such a pathos name? For example, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union - the name is purely working, but what opportunities were

      you don’t even imagine what a huge problem it is to come up with the name of the party, not to repeat what is already registered and so that it, your name is not stupidly stolen from you ....
    3. alekseyal
      alekseyal 23 October 2013 04: 18
      0
      Quote: saag
      why does the Great Fatherland party have such a pathos name?

      Because we want our Motherland, our Fatherland to be Great.
      Now, unfortunately, this is not so, but we will strive for this.
      We consider our country not only Russia within its current borders, but the entire Russian world, which is much larger than the current Russian Federation.
  28. pl675
    pl675 22 October 2013 19: 32
    0
    Quote: Starfish
    "- Will Putin, in principle, engage in modernization? He is a supporter of cautious steps, but decisive and prompt measures are needed. Personally, do you, Nikolai Viktorovich, have hopes that the current generation of Russian leaders will be engaged in restoring order?

    - The current generation of the country's leaders is already engaged in putting things in order. But at a certain speed, which is fully consistent with the conflicting desires that are spread in our society. Any leader of the country should be guided by the opinion of his people. And he, the people, still wants results, as in China, and methods, as in today's Russia. "

    very controversial moment. people have long been ready for harsh methods of restoring order. the death penalty for corrupt officials at the level of Serdyukov, drug dealers, and terrorists. but now is not the 37th year


    literally today, Medvedev, in communication with the Chinese comrades, voiced the idea of ​​their successes in terms of the fight against corruption.
    but then he hastened to add - according to the Russian constitution, such methods are unacceptable.
    bees against honey.
  29. catapractic
    catapractic 22 October 2013 21: 18
    0
    ... but they themselves will not participate in it
  30. Victor-M
    Victor-M 22 October 2013 21: 21
    0
    Quote: pl675
    literally today, Medvedev, in communication with the Chinese comrades, voiced the idea of ​​their successes in terms of the fight against corruption.
    but then he hastened to add - according to the Russian constitution, such methods are unacceptable.
    bees against honey.

    It's like a poem about the love of vodka - "... if vodka interferes with work, throw it to hell, your work." What is a constitution for if the laws spelled out there encourage criminals?
    1. alekseyal
      alekseyal 23 October 2013 04: 23
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      Quote: Victor-M
      according to the Russian constitution, such methods are unacceptable.
      bees against honey.

      It is necessary to change the constitution
  31. loisop
    loisop 22 October 2013 23: 26
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    I mean the situation in 1941, when Hitler drove the British to the islands and could well end their power.

    Could not. A.A.Shiklgruber was a piece on the board. Unlike, say, B. Napoleon, the former Player.
    (in 1913, on the eve of the First World War, as a result of which the four largest monarchies of Europe — the Russian, German, Austro-Hungarian, and Ottoman — disappeared from the face of the earth, and the British reached the peak of its power - ed.).

    So - only from a geographical point of view. From the geopolitical - 2 emission centers disappeared: German, provided with industry and technology, and Russian, provided with immense resources.
    No bombing of a single Libya for the Americans will solve anything. Whether the USA will succeed or not, we will probably see during our life.

    Well, why doesn’t he decide? The bombing of Iraq, which opened its mouth against the dollar, resolved the issue for almost 10 years. Libya bombing - for 3 years. That's just the pace is growing, and the bombing, fortunately did not take place, Syria would delay the moment of reckoning for 1 year, no more. Iran would follow Syria for another 1-2 years. So yes, we will see it during our lifetime.
    But if we are so stupid and naive that we disarm or allow the Americans to build a missile defense system that works like a clock, then they, of course, can deliver a nuclear strike to us.

    We cannot or will not allow anything to America. Till. But due to circumstances, the Americans cannot build a missile defense system. This requires a lot of money, which is not. To stupidly print such a mass - we need new, and quite large participants in this global MMM. But there is nowhere to take new fools - the planet is over.
    Does the dear reader really want to invent some kind of thing that will allow Europe to calmly heat without using our resources? Then let him first find a job for several million fellow citizens.

    Nuclear plant does not fit? Electroheaters perfectly heat any room. Reserves of thorium, for example, in the world are significant - we have a sea of ​​energy. (are we, like, talking about inventions?)
    And the construction / maintenance of nuclear power plants, the extraction / processing of raw materials - will occupy a fairly large number of people. And by the way, with an almost unlimited amount of energy, you can even grow pineapples in the greenhouses beyond the Arctic Circle, in greenhouses. A ton for each of the 15 billion people on the planet. laughing
    When someone else becomes strong, and I hope that it will be Russia, the orientation of the European states will also change. There are no principles - there is one desire, like a woman: to lean against a strong shoulder, that’s all.

    With such desires, and in the absence of principles, this is not a woman, but a prostitute. Let’s call by their own names those who lie under the one who has the money.
    But let me say that friendship is a process of non-resistance of two parties.

    Here it is necessary to correct the respected Nikolai Viktorovich:
    1. According to the classic "consent is a product with complete non-resistance of the parties." ©
    2. Friendship is not a process! And also a product. Product is pretty significant mutual efforts.
  32. Karabin
    Karabin 22 October 2013 23: 37
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    The books of the famous historian and writer Nikolai Starikov, one way or another, are the "anthem" of England and the USA, their cunning, impudence and achievements

    I would put the word "historian" in quotation marks, and free the word "anthem" from them. This is exactly the impression from reading Kolya's opuses.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 22 October 2013 23: 50
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      I don’t think this is a project. It’s just that a person deeply dealt with this issue. Let's see what will happen next ...
  33. cormorant
    cormorant 23 October 2013 03: 52
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    I read, rather swallowed all the books of N. Starikov, except perhaps the last one "Geopolitics How it is done". Before judging a person, at least go to his website. May God grant him health and success with his party and goals. Article 100+
  34. Lazy cat
    Lazy cat 23 October 2013 05: 03
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    Quote: cormorant
    I read, rather swallowed all the books of N. Starikov, except perhaps the last one "Geopolitics How it is done". Before judging a person, at least go to his website. May God grant him health and success with his party and goals. Article 100+

    Correctly. After reading, our history and the history of the Fatherland is better understood.
  35. saag
    saag 23 October 2013 06: 46
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    most importantly, the focus of attention is shifted to the external enemy - he is to blame for all our troubles, we must fight him, bringing to the periphery of attention tricks of the Russian oligarchy
  36. Ross
    Ross 23 October 2013 11: 41
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    Quote: 528Obrp
    Quote: alekseyal
    And N. Starikov is co-chairman of the Great Fatherland Party (Air Defense)

    One thing I don’t understand is what to do with the “dead” generation without conscience and principles living “in this country”? But these are mainly young people, and young people determine the future of the country

    Let’s think, and who made such youth? Who is responsible? We discussed yesterday the current education system ...
    First of all, it is necessary to establish a worldview - to build a new system of training and education of youth.
  37. 222222
    222222 23 October 2013 12: 13
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    To this topic...

    October 22 2013
    "Is war with America possible?"
    Valery Alekseev Political observer, expert at the INF

    http://russiancouncil.ru/inner/?id_4=2557#top
  38. Chertkov Oleg
    Chertkov Oleg 2 December 2013 18: 15
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    In support of N. Starikov:
    ... A predatory war is an element of parabolism and annihilation, awakened and directed by the evil will of evil and evil rulers. When will the evil will dry up in the universe? When will the malicious rulers translate, for, as you know, not peoples declare war. When they begin to wonder why all the millennia, when those who have hatched from the simplest, those who are called up to create in life, are marked by endless, destructive and destructive wars, like a highway-kilometer signs ...
    Historical words. Not mine. And the third world war has been going on for a long time - for our minds, hearts, aspirations. I think that I will not be mistaken if I call the individuals from Bolotnaya and others who advocate a change in the course of Russia, the removal of V.V. Putin and other foreign nonsense (infection) voiced with the help of the media and the Internet into the weak brains of the young generation and people, mutants liberal orientation. The traitor is the one who lives in Russia and calls for its split (separation of parts), change of power (anarchy), organizing under the "green" slogans direct sabotage of the construction of new processing plants and GOKs. The government and EdRo are not ideal, I agree, but there are also mutants there who have stuck to the power and sympathize with them, add here the opinion and influence of the "world community" - these are the "Augean stables" in which Putin and the patriots have to work. And where were the "Bolotnens" and others like them in the 90s, when there was a complete Opa, there was no need for them! Russia itself gradually destroyed itself! And when sanity (recovery), muscles (Army and Navy) and mass patriotism began to emerge, mutants appeared (5th column). The eternal struggle of Good with $ scrap.