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Russian nuclear missiles magnetic storms are not terrible

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Russian nuclear missiles magnetic storms are not terribleWhat can not be said about the American - say scientists.


Magnetic storms do not affect the performance of nuclear weapons, the Russian Defense Ministry said in response to the words of Vladimir Kuznetsov, director of the Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere and Radio Wave Propagation, who said on Thursday that magnetic storms could cause unsuccessful launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM).

"Such phenomena have already been," Kuznetsov said at a press conference in Moscow. They arose during test launches of American ballistic missiles: “During magnetic storms, streams of energetic particles arise. On takeoff, the rocket is controlled by its own control system. If energetic particles get there and lead to the failure of this system, then it’s unknown where the rocket will fly, ”Kuznetsov said.

However, a spokesman for the press service and information department of the RF Ministry of Defense on the Strategic Missile Forces, Colonel Igor Yegorov, denied this information, in any case, regarding Russian missiles. He said: "The technical capabilities and characteristics of the creation of the national rocket technology make it possible to exclude the influence of various external factors, including magnetic storms, on the rocket control system and the missile systems as a whole."

According to him, “the combat control systems functioning in the Strategic Missile Forces allow to exclude any external influence on the state of combat readiness of the troops. The routes for bringing orders and collecting reports of the automated combat command and control system of troops are formed by wire, radio and satellite communication channels and possess the necessary survivability and noise immunity. "

As the officer noted, bringing the orders of combat control directly to the launchers is provided, bypassing the intermediate links, including in the conditions of nuclear influence and electronic suppression. “Control systems have such properties as compactness, low power consumption, secrecy of information transfer, resistance to external influences and reliability of operation,” said Colonel Yegorov. He explained that “the combat duty system at the Strategic Missile Forces has a strictly built“ vertical ”and provides for service at the central control centers of the Strategic Missile Forces, control points for unions, formations and military units, directly on nuclear missiles, as well as at communications centers and technical positions ".
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  1. svp67
    svp67 21 October 2013 12: 12
    +9
    According to him, “the combat control systems operating in the Strategic Missile Forces allow us to exclude any external impact on the state of combat readiness of the troops. The paths for bringing orders and collecting reports of the automated system for combat command and control of the troops are formed by wire, radio and satellite communication channels and have the necessary survivability and noise immunity. "
    Let's hope that the hands of "effective managers" didn't reach there at least ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 21 October 2013 14: 21
      -3
      We’re looking at new liquid rockets ... on whose base will be
      1. plotnikov561956
        plotnikov561956 21 October 2013 15: 18
        +3
        Elementary particles .... elemental base ... respectively domestic
  2. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 21 October 2013 12: 12
    +8
    “The technical capabilities and characteristics laid down in the creation of domestic rocket technology make it possible to exclude the influence of various external factors, including magnetic storms, on the missile control system and missile systems as a whole.”

    The armor is strong and our tanks are fast. Tremble vrazhin wassat
    1. alexng
      alexng 22 October 2013 10: 39
      0
      And we are not afraid of either the ninth rampart, or the cold of permafrost.
      After all, we are guys. Yes, yes. After all, we are guys. Yes Yes. from seventy latitude ...
      good drinks
  3. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 21 October 2013 12: 13
    15
    For some reason, do Russian military missiles fly during magnetic storms? It's just that no one spoke to Soviet scientists about the existence of such storms on a box every second morning, they say take care of yourself today, the pressure may rise due to the storm ... laughing
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 21 October 2013 12: 18
      10
      for sure. my father, because of these messages, is ill on schedule .... he’s tired of explaining to him what he inspires himself, but the older generation sacredly believes in the printed word and the first channel. There is nothing to be done ..
      1. Letun
        Letun 22 October 2013 11: 06
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        for sure. my father, because of these messages, is ill on schedule .... he’s tired of explaining to him what he inspires himself, but the older generation sacredly believes in the printed word and the first channel. There is nothing to be done ..

        When you live to see his age, you will understand how health can depend on pressure and on temperature and on magnetic storms. In the meantime, young live and consider yourself smarter than the rest lol
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 21 October 2013 18: 44
      +4
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      For some reason, do Russian military missiles fly during magnetic storms? It's just that no one spoke to Soviet scientists about the existence of such storms on a box every second morning, they say take care of yourself today, pressure may rise due to the storm.

      In fact, a respected colleague, EMC, as well as resistance to EMR were created by the painstaking work of many generations of Soviet engineers. Suffice it to say, at P-36 (Satan) - the passage of the cloud of nuclear weapons and at the initial stage of take-off, flight is provided when the electronic control systems are disabled. Stabilization is provided on the elements of a different base.
      In addition, experts remember and know that our requirements for resistance to nuclear factors were much stricter than those for foreign countries. As well as technical requirements for mechanical overload ...
  4. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 21 October 2013 12: 38
    12
    the simpler - the more reliable. it always has been. Kalash - bail
  5. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 21 October 2013 12: 45
    +9
    It’s simple, if such natural phenomena are sensational news for the public with the current level of education, then for design engineers it is a factor in the design. Once the product went into series, then the problem is solved.
    And no sensations.
    1. niksup
      niksup 21 October 2013 13: 24
      0
      the main thing is that TK should be written correctly!
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 21 October 2013 18: 49
      0
      Quote: abrakadabre
      And no sensations.

      By the way, the thinner the chip plate and the less powerful the signal is switched by it - the worse it resists EMR and other factors of solar and other radiation :)))
      For the level of interference is comparable to the level of signals ...
  6. a_lex
    a_lex 21 October 2013 13: 04
    +4
    Soviet designers tried to tell Comrade Beria about magnetic storms ;-)
    1. afire
      afire 21 October 2013 14: 15
      -1
      at least he wouldn’t understand them))) as a maximum - to the wall
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 21 October 2013 19: 00
      +2
      Quote: a_lex
      Soviet designers tried to tell Comrade Beria about magnetic storms

      By the way, Comrade Beria was a talented and unique manager, no match for "successful top managers". A red fox and little toe is not worth it.
      And if he didn't understand something, he listened to the experts. And when opinions diverged, he locked himself with them in his office so that by morning there was an opinion. And usually his words ended - "We will answer with the head." You will not answer, but we will answer ...
      Therefore, we must think, some particularly smart restlessly restless scholars, the descendants of the habitable places did not accept him. For they knew - it would stand up and demand for a word ... Moreover, if they deceive and try to deceive ...
      1. Old bear
        Old bear 22 October 2013 09: 27
        +1
        That's right. Beria was simply an unsurpassed administrator (compared to the current (in a good way)), his son is an excellent specialist in radio electronics (he took an active part in creating the anti-ballistic ring around Moscow). I would like to add that the children of higher government officials at that time went through the Great Patriotic War but didn’t slope right away as it is customary among the elites and studied in their native state, and not in Oxford or elsewhere. Here are such thoughts what
        1. alexng
          alexng 22 October 2013 10: 22
          0
          Probably now those who studied at Oxford are not allowed to enter the military-industrial complex on a cannon shot, due to their corruption by this foreign formation.
  7. Bort radist
    Bort radist 21 October 2013 13: 04
    0
    Russian nuclear missiles are not afraid of magnetic storms. What can not be said about civilian projects. It seems that space programs are born in one country. Paradox?
  8. andrei332809
    andrei332809 21 October 2013 13: 04
    +3
    Yes, Soviet products of a similar theme, they were never scary. tests were carried out tn and the issue was decided radically at the stage of development
  9. a_lex
    a_lex 21 October 2013 13: 06
    0
    Wow, a cool flag in the Krasnoyarsk Territory :-)
    1. vadson
      vadson 21 October 2013 16: 00
      0
      my polish shows from time to time
  10. andruha70
    andruha70 21 October 2013 13: 11
    0
    The technical capabilities and characteristics laid down in the creation of domestic rocket technology make it possible to exclude the influence of various external factors, including magnetic storms, on the missile control system and missile systems as a whole
    Mikhalych, what, will we protect the control system from any storms? -you heard about cowards? aha! -Well put it on the system ... preferably a couple of pairs ... laughing wassat
  11. military
    military 21 October 2013 13: 28
    +3
    Colonel Igor Egorov, representative of the press service and information department of the Russian Ministry of Defense for Strategic Rocket Forces, denied this information ...

    it would be surprising if the colonel confirmed this information ... laughing
    ... in any case, regarding Russian missiles.

    what is this article about? ... yes, in general, about nothing ...
  12. starhina01
    starhina01 21 October 2013 13: 39
    +1
    if during the construction of the missiles the production technology is not violated, then no magnetic storms will be us afraid soldier
  13. screw cutter
    screw cutter 21 October 2013 13: 56
    +3
    The photo is beautiful, beauty is a terrible force.
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  15. Chever
    Chever 21 October 2013 13: 56
    +1
    Now it remains to wash away from the Amer nuclear systems a missile defense system based on these same magnetic storms laughing lol
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 21 October 2013 14: 40
      +3
      Quote: Chever
      Now it remains to wash away from the Amer nuclear systems a missile defense system based on these same magnetic storms


      Such a missile defense system based on plasmoids from a powerful microwave gun. developed at one of our institutes.
      The essence of the discovery was the experimentally proven possibility of creating in the atmosphere above the protected object (territory) using powerful microwave radiation from the Earth local plasma formations (plasmoids) capable of aerodynamic effects on fast-flying objects.
      A possible appearance of a plasma weapon combat complex (KPO) was developed to intercept the warheads of strategic missiles. The method of combat use of the KPO proposed by the authors was that at a selected point on the trajectory of the warhead (WB), powerful microwave radiation from several generators is in-phase focused, the plasma is ignited, and a plasmoid is created. Its position is adjusted relative to the target. The combat unit, encountering a plasmoid, undergoes huge dynamic overloads and collapses (or deviates). However, the lack of required funding, the lack of powerful compact sources of microwave energy did not allow to translate the institute's designs into a working model of the complex. Then in 1993. Yeltsin suggested that Clinton jointly develop an experimental KPO and conduct full-scale tests of Russian plasma weapon technology on it. However, the Americans, having become familiar with this idea, consulted for a long time and, as a result, refused to work with us, unexpectedly starting to create the Arfa ionosphere research complex (Alaska), now known as HAARP. The research carried out on it since 1997 is positioned as a peaceful study of the ionosphere . But our and foreign experts make substantiated allegations about the military orientation of these studies.
      Clickable
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 21 October 2013 16: 07
        +1
        Quote: Ascetic
        unexpectedly starting to create the Arfa ionospheric research complex (Alaska), now known as HAARP. The research carried out on it since 1997 is positioned as a peaceful study of the ionosphere. But our and foreign experts make substantiated allegations about the military orientation of these studies.

        Recently, there was a leap of information that these studies were curtailed and funding was cut. Either they finally decided that "they don't have these skis," or they just ran out of money ... request
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 21 October 2013 16: 28
          +2
          Quote: Misantrop
          Recently, there was a leap of information that these studies were curtailed and funding was cut. Either they finally decided that "they don't have these skis," or they just ran out of money ...

          They didn’t give money, in the summer the program manager announced that all the buildings were closed and sealed. Next year, the DARPA agency will work there, for which money in the amount of 9 million dollars is allotted. For research
          "Such physical aspects of natural phenomena as magnetospheric sub-storms, fire, lightning and geophysical phenomena."

          There was an article on the site
          HAARP closed
      2. Rus2012
        Rus2012 21 October 2013 19: 08
        0
        Quote: Ascetic
        Then in 1993. Yeltsin proposed to Clinton

        ... there was such a thing!
        But, as I recall, the "tagged" one brought our specialists to the Yankees.
        For a long time I could not find a mention of this businessman.
        Thank you, colleague!
        I would be grateful if you give a link to the source.
  16. bistrov.
    bistrov. 21 October 2013 14: 10
    0
    Pay attention to the photo on the screen saver, in appearance it is difficult to determine which brand of rocket it is difficult even for a specialist, but it is clearly liquid, as indicated by the absence of a smoky trace, which is typical for a solid rocket.
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 21 October 2013 14: 30
      0
      Quote: bistrov.
      Pay attention to the photo on the screen saver, in appearance it is difficult to determine which brand of rocket it is difficult even for a specialist, but it is clearly liquid, as indicated by the absence of a smoky trace, which is typical for a solid rocket.

      I am not an expert, but I immediately identified this missile as UR-100UTTH, or RS-18
  17. DRUG DRUG
    DRUG DRUG 21 October 2013 14: 37
    +6
    Soviet and then Russian designers have always been distinguished by a high level of scientific and engineering training, they owned and possess fundamental knowledge. All developments have a well-established cycle of creation from research to experimental testing. This is the strongest school. And modern Russian developers with honor continue the best traditions of the Soviet school. And no matter what enemies and envious people shout, everyone can see that even after the most difficult trials, Russia produces the best weapons in the world.
  18. Migari
    Migari 21 October 2013 15: 43
    +2
    Our nuclear forces are perhaps the most reliable that we now have, it’s good that our oligarchs didn’t get to it, pah.
  19. sem.sorok
    sem.sorok 21 October 2013 15: 56
    +3
    Alas - the article is not mastered. Read to energetic particles and came to the conclusion that a filthy broom was crying for this expert.
    1. military
      military 21 October 2013 16: 11
      +2
      Quote: sem.sorok
      Read to energetic particles

      well, yes ... nimble such particles ... laughing
      I doubt that this is the terminology of the director of IZMIRAN ... No.
      rather, the pearl of a boroscript ...
    2. pahom54
      pahom54 21 October 2013 17: 37
      0
      According to "Xpert" - too. Reproaching others for illiteracy - watch yourself, please ...
  20. sem.sorok
    sem.sorok 21 October 2013 16: 48
    0
    Quote: military
    I doubt that this is the terminology of the director of IZMIRAN ... no
    rather, the pearl of a boroscript ...

    Yes, the jester really knows it. It may turn out that not a pearl borosopisat am
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  22. Siberian
    Siberian 21 October 2013 17: 10
    +1
    Quote: shinobi
    All our rocket technology, military, was designed with protection from all imagined natural and most technogenic phenomena. The most important of these defenses was from a fool and a very likely purely Russian crucifixion. And Russian crucifixion would be more terrible than any magnetic storms, sabotage, and nuclear strikes there base mines.

    So such a weapon should be created .... And there will not be any opposition to it.
  23. I think so
    I think so 21 October 2013 17: 47
    +1
    The generals started talking about magnetic storms ... it’s not good ... there’s no other explanation for the failures with the Bulava ... Well, he can still blame the shamans with tambourines ... The mess and the devastation in the country are not missiles fly ...
    1. HAM
      HAM 22 October 2013 10: 41
      0
      You are right, because one "father" said that the "Bulava" is falling because he did not scatter it. Hee .. hee ..
  24. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 17: 50
    0
    Storms, what about the Ajids?
  25. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 21 October 2013 17: 57
    +2
    From the moment of its creation until today, our ICBMs have been required to maintain BS even when the enemy uses nuclear weapons in the position area of ​​ICBMs (including its damaging factors - EMR). With this in mind, they were built. Here is a concrete example.
    The three-stage ICBM RS-24 Yars (15Zh55M (APU) and 15Zh67 (silo) has a design similar to the design of the RS-12M2 missile of the Topol-M complex, with the exception of the platform for disengagement of warheads, part of the control system and payload. the rocket enters the TPK, which contains the entire service life. A special coating is applied to the rocket body and the instrument compartment to reduce the impact of the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion, as well as other types of exposure. . The instrument compartment of the rocket is sealed. A rocket can perform a software maneuver at launch for passing a nuclear explosion cloud attacking ballistic missiles. "Of course, nothing will protect against neutrinos, but the probability of its hitting a critical control device (for example, a solid-state wave gyroscope) is negligible. In addition, such ICBM systems have 2-3 dubbing. I think the missile is also reliably protected from EMP.
    1. UVB
      UVB 21 October 2013 19: 15
      0
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      Of course, nothing will protect against neutrinos
      And you don’t need to defend yourself against neutrinos, this particle practically does not interact with others, therefore it can not damage anything. In order to only record single neutrinos, grandiose underground laboratories were built. And about the magnetic storms - if a rocket is able to pass through a nuclear mushroom - no storm will be a hindrance.
  26. Ka-52
    Ka-52 21 October 2013 18: 29
    0
    Article for the "Yellow" newspapers!
    If a rocket can overcome missile defense, it’s not afraid of nuclear explosions, why the hell ... magnetic storms for it ..
    For example:
    Pulses of electromagnetic radiation cannot knock down the SS-18 flight control system and its heads, for all Satan's control systems are duplicated, in addition to electronic, pneumatic automatic devices ..
  27. shinobi
    shinobi 22 October 2013 08: 21
    0
    All of our missiles, military, are made with protection from all imagined natural and most technological impacts. The main thing in this protection is protection from the fool and traditional Russian gouging. Russian gouging will be the worst of magnetic storms, sabotage and nuclear strikes at basing places.
  28. Wendor
    Wendor 22 October 2013 09: 27
    0
    "During magnetic storms, streams of energetic particles arise. On takeoff, the rocket is controlled by its own control system. If energetic particles get there and cause this system to fail, then where the rocket will fly is unknown."

    It seems more correct to be energetic or high-energy particles, speaking about the impact of the influence of the solar wind on the Earth's ionosphere
  29. avg
    avg 22 October 2013 10: 37
    0
    Best of all, magnetic storms "drive drones"
  30. HAM
    HAM 22 October 2013 10: 37
    0
    It’s just that all the automation in our missiles is still on the reels and SHI, they don't care about any storms.
  31. ed65b
    ed65b 22 October 2013 12: 15
    0
    our "Chip" weighs about 20 kilograms or more. Therefore, they fly. Glory to the Strategic Missile Forces.