Military Review

Equipment "Warrior" is ready for state trials

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The kit of the Russian perspective combat equipment of the “soldier of the future” “Warrior” is already fully ready for state tests. It is planned that the kit should be adopted next year. About this journalists on Thursday, October 17, said the general director of the Central Research Institute "Tochmash" Dmitry Semizorov. The preliminary tests of the kit ended in September. To begin a series of state tests, a directive from the Russian Ministry of Defense is needed. At the same time, according to Semizorov, the tests will be carried out element by element. In total, the "Warrior" includes 50 of various elements.


Testing such a number of elements can take from 2's weeks to 2-3 months, said Dmitry Semizorov. It is reported that the tests of the "Warrior" will be held at various Russian test sites. After that, the elements of equipment "soldier of the future" will be sent to the mass production. According to Semizorov, the “Warrior” will begin to enter the troops already in 2014, the first to receive these kits will be new ground brigades. Next year, it is planned that 5-7 connections will be equipped with this equipment, and all other parts will receive it during the next years 5.

At the same time, the military have already thought about the modernization of a promising set of combat equipment. The modernization process, according to the general director of the FSUE Central Research Institute "Tochmash", will begin next year. Starting from 2014, a large exploratory work will be opened, in particular, to work out and identify new ballistic solutions in the defeat system. The Central Research Institute "Tochmash" hopes that the Ministry of Defense will decide on a significant modernization of the existing set of combat equipment. According to Semizorov, the military is currently at the decision-making stage on the various proposed modernization options.

Equipment "Warrior" is ready for state trials

The average warranty period for using the “Warrior” kit will be 5 years. This set of equipment will be transferred from one soldier to another until it falls under the write-off. For example, if only one soldier will wear a T-shirt, the summer uniform will be designed for two. Winter owners will also have more owners; the rifle will last longer weapon, knives, body armor, helmets. A total of about 50 of various elements will be included in the kit: newly created or modernized items of clothing and equipment, weapons, personal protective equipment, means of protection against damaging factors of weapons of mass destruction, as well as non-lethal weapons.

The basis of equipment "Warrior" is a modern aramid jumpsuit, which is made of fiber "Alutex", manufactured by Kamenskvolokno. This jumpsuit is able to withstand a direct hit by fragments of mines, grenades or shells, and can withstand exposure to open flame for some time.

In addition, the set includes a body armor with ceramic armor plates capable of withstanding the bullets of a SVD or AK-74 rifle, as well as a special multi-layered helmet.


All elements of the “Warrior” kit can be freely combined with each other, interchanged. The total weight of a standard set of body armor 5-th class of protection and overalls is about 10 kg, maximum - with an assault body armor 6-th class of protection, helmet, arm-armor to protect the hips and shoulders - about 20 kg. In general, the “Warrior” kit will be able to cover about 90% of the body surface of a serviceman. Its "breathing" structure provides for the possibility of continuous wear of equipment for at least 48 hours. Suit fabric is impregnated with a special compound that passes air well, while retaining moisture. It is noteworthy that the soldier’s armored suit blocks the radiation in the infrared and ultraviolet spectrum, which makes it invisible in a thermal sight. And in the case of such a need, the entire set of equipment can be easily thrown off in a few seconds, almost in one motion.

The control system of the “Warrior” equipment kit is represented by means of identification, communication, display and processing of information, navigation, and orientation. A soldier’s ammunition will house a communicator, which will make it possible to determine its coordinates using satellite navigation systems GLONASS and GPS, which will make it easy to solve various tasks of orientation to the terrain and target designation. At the same time, information on the location of the fighter on the battlefield will be automatically entered into the control.

The life support system of the equipment was supplemented with protective glasses, as well as a set of protection for the elbow and knee joints, a headset for hearing protection, a set of autonomous heat sources, an individual filter for water treatment and a number of other components. In addition, the kit includes a set of means of energy supply and destruction.


At the current stage, the “Warrior” weapons system includes the latest version of the AK, equipped with a night-sight sight, a grenade launcher and a thermal aiming system. According to the designers, there are no analogues of this system in the world. Also, the fighter will have at his disposal a special video module that will allow him to fire from behind the shelter or the corner, without protruding and not putting up bullets.

"Warrior" added new thermal sight

The Russian 1PM-139 thermal imaging sight will allow soldiers to fight in fog, darkness, as well as see the enemy in the smoke. New items are going to be used in the “Warrior” kit. The electronics of the device allows you to detect the enemy at a distance of 1200 meters. The heat that radiates from any body will be focused with a special lens on the matrix, which perceives it and converts the incoming signal into a picture. According to representatives of the development company “TsNII Tsiklon,” this sight is able to “see” the temperature difference even in 0,1 degrees. The sight will work synchronously with a special eye flap, which is mounted on a soldier’s helmet and on which the picture from the sight is broadcast.

It is reported that each sight, created by the "CYCLONE", passes a series of tests - in special boxes at temperatures from -50 to + 70 degrees, as well as drop and vibration tests, it is able to withstand overloads up to 350g. Currently, the device has already completed a factory test cycle. State tests of a thermal imaging sight are scheduled for November 2013, after they end, it will be decided to launch this device into production and supply sight to the troops.


It is worth noting that this device is not cheap. The cost of one thermal sight is 900 thousand rubles. Oleg Yakovlev, adviser to the general director of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone", told reporters about this. According to the expert, such a high cost of the system is currently due to the small volume of orders from the Russian Defense Ministry, as well as the use of expensive French-made thermal imaging arrays (Ulisse). In particular, after the customs clearance procedure, the price of one matrix is ​​about 8 thousand dollars. At the same time, the cost of a set of a thermal imaging system in the French outfit of a soldier of the future FELIN is about 50 thousand euros (about 2,2 million rubles).

It is assumed that its own Russian-made thermal imaging matrix for the “Warrior” kit will be ready in 2015 year. According to Oleg Yakovlev, its price will be about 100 thousand rubles. The composition of the thermal system of the “Warrior” kit, in addition to the sight itself, also includes a helmet-mounted display. The sight can be installed on any small arms, including machine guns, machine guns and sniper rifles. In addition, the composition of the thermal imaging system also includes special binoculars targeting and reconnaissance.

A new set of military equipment "Warrior" should be put into service in the 2014 year after the completion of state tests, it was previously planned to adopt a set of weapons before the end of 2013 year. However, according to Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, there was a delay in adoption, which is associated with the need to "refine" the small arms that make up the kit. The Russian defense order for the next year has already provided for the purchase of several tens of thousands of sets of equipment "Warrior". The kits will have to go into service with the Airborne Forces, the naval infantry, and the units of the Ground Forces. The first to equip the "soldier of the future" will receive some parts of the Western Military District. Fully transition to new equipment will be implemented in 5 years.

Information sources:
—Http: //ria.ru/defense_safety/20131017/970751477.html
—Http: //lenta.ru/news/2013/10/17/ratnik
—Http: //izvestia.ru/news/553440
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  1. Kubatai
    Kubatai 21 October 2013 07: 59
    10
    The necessary thing .. we are waiting for reviews of specialists after the tests ...
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 21 October 2013 09: 35
      +5
      Very necessary. And most importantly, they do everything with us. But some are not there for conscripts. The full version for intelligence, special forces, contract soldiers.
      1. Dmitry 2246
        Dmitry 2246 21 October 2013 11: 06
        +8
        I would call this a breakthrough in the uniform of a Russian soldier.
        From experience, I propose to complete:
        Open body areas and glasses "glare" against the background of good equipment. It may be necessary to add "war paint", films, ointments to the kit, depending on the upcoming OBD, weather, terrain and season.
        This is especially necessary in a wooded area, in the mountains, etc.
        And if a splinter hits, the bullets in the helmet will the neck vertebrae withstand?
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 21 October 2013 11: 20
          23
          It would not be bad to make electric heating in a pea jacket with connecting to an armored personnel carrier, an infantry fighting vehicle, approached it, turned on the mains, warmed up, no need to burn bonfires to unmask itself.
          1. Siberian
            Siberian 21 October 2013 15: 26
            +6
            In a pea jacket and quilted jackets, and so fine when you move, well, and if extra. connect functions is generally irreplaceable fellow
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 21 October 2013 21: 29
            +5
            Quote: Igor39
            It would not be bad to make electric heating in a pea jacket with connecting to an armored personnel carrier, infantry fighting vehicle, approached it, turned on the network, warmed up

            Already phones have wireless charging, but you all need to carry wires for themselves connectors?
            It is quite possible to mount a similar circuit in an ordinary seat, for example an armored personnel carrier
            Quote: Igor39
            , do not burn bonfires to unmask yourself.

            In the infrared and without a bonfire you can be seen in full growth
          3. aver
            aver 29 January 2014 16: 47
            +1
            I support it 100%! Sitting in a "box" in a cold period, you fall asleep from the cold.
        2. Massik
          Massik 21 October 2013 15: 22
          +5
          And if a splinter hits, the bullets in the helmet will the neck vertebrae withstand?
          This is a rhetorical question, unfortunately, there were cases when a head dressed in ШМ1М was torn off by a blast wave, but not walking without a helmet at the risk of getting a bullet or a splinter in the head no longer matters whether the neck vertebrae survived or not.
    2. theadenter
      theadenter 21 October 2013 11: 44
      +2
      It also looks good.
      1. Zhenya
        Zhenya 21 October 2013 12: 03
        +8
        3rd year already procrastinate, state tests will take place another year wink And by 2016, the first 20 sets will go to the troops ... Everything is too tight.
        1. theadenter
          theadenter 21 October 2013 15: 43
          +1
          The main thing is that by 2016 they finish and accept, and not stretch it for another 5 years.
        2. CHILD
          CHILD 1 January 2014 14: 36
          +1
          even if something is necessary to organize production)))) probably a good thing ... but we will saturate the army for about twenty years, and then, as we usually do, in four years they will say that this is not very, a new one needs to be developed .......
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 21 October 2013 12: 45
      +9
      Quote: Kubatai
      The necessary thing .. we are waiting for reviews of specialists after the tests ...


      just in time for the war will be adopted laughing
      1. almost demobil
        almost demobil 21 October 2013 16: 21
        +1
        The "Ratnik" also includes a new machine gun. But the extreme infa was that the AK-12 did not pass the tests. So AEK?
        1. Kurkin
          Kurkin 21 October 2013 16: 38
          +6
          Yes. Here it is.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 21 October 2013 16: 59
            +2
            Quote: Kurkin
            Yes. Here it is.

            This is the FINAL option, no names have occurred?
            1. Kurkin
              Kurkin 21 October 2013 17: 05
              +1
              This is the last existing one today. He is in the video that I posted in the comment below. For you again http://youtu.be/sP_cYTeffVc
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 21 October 2013 17: 01
            -6
            Quote: Kurkin
            Yes. Here it is.

            There are a huge number of disadvantages with this machine. And first, she looks to the past, not the future.
            1. Kurkin
              Kurkin 21 October 2013 17: 06
              18
              Twenty five again. All modern small arms are a thing of the past, but railguns and plasma guns have not yet been invented.
              1. yehat
                yehat 16 January 2014 16: 36
                0
                railguns have already been invented.
                it is planned to put Zamvolt on ships - those are specially created with redundant power installation.
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            2. Hon
              Hon 21 October 2013 18: 33
              +1
              And what are the specific disadvantages?
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 05
                -5
                Quote: Hon
                And what are the specific disadvantages?


                Let's take it. Bad neck, lack of shutter lag, shutter in a bad place, like AK.

                Lack of modularity, the impossibility of quick alteration for left-handed people.

                The same controversial scheme with balanced automation (complicates the weapon and weighs it somewhere by a pound).

                This is basic.
                1. Kurkin
                  Kurkin 21 October 2013 23: 52
                  +3
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Quote: Hon
                  And what are the specific disadvantages?


                  Let's take it. Bad neck, lack of shutter lag, shutter in a bad place, like AK.

                  Lack of modularity, the impossibility of quick alteration for left-handed people.

                  The same controversial scheme with balanced automation (complicates the weapon and weighs it somewhere by a pound).

                  This is basic.

                  1. The shape of the neck is not a minus.
                  2. Did you design it to claim no shutter lag? Where does the information come from?
                  3. Same as 2. How do you know this to argue? A source!
                  4. Weight AEK 3 kg 250 g. Lighter than AK. The scheme complicates weapons on 2 details compared to AKs.
                  It turns out that there are no cons.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 22 October 2013 00: 29
                    -2
                    Quote: Kurkin
                    1. The shape of the neck is not a minus.

                    Minus one more. The store is harder to blindly connect.
                    Quote: Kurkin
                    2. Did you design it to claim no shutter lag? Where does the information come from?

                    The fact that at the moment the information about her did not flash at all. Well, the store change button - there too.
                    Quote: Kurkin
                    3. Same as 2. How do you know this to argue? A source!

                    And I assert from there that at the moment it was stated that two trunks were presented - under 5.45 and 7.62. What corresponds to the declared photos.
                    Quote: Kurkin
                    4. Weight AEK 3 kg 250 g. Lighter than AK. The scheme complicates weapons on 2 details compared to AKs.


                    It would be surprising if with modern materials he weighed more. And the M4 weighs a kilo with a little lighter.
                    1. Kurkin
                      Kurkin 22 October 2013 08: 37
                      +4
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Minus one more. The store is harder to blindly connect.

                      Is there a neck, though small,? There is. And the blind in our army do not take. Cross out of the minuses.
                      Quote: Pimply
                      The fact that at the moment the information about her did not flash at all. Well, the store change button - there too.

                      But there was also no information that there was none. So it remains to wait for the official premiere and then talk about the shutter delay. The latch of the store is standard, which is what the army is used to and they ask for it and do it. In general, also not a minus.
                      Quote: Pimply
                      And I assert from there that at the moment it was stated that two trunks were presented - under 5.45 and 7.62. What corresponds to the declared photos.

                      The photo shows that both samples are almost identical and differ only in shops, which, as it were, hints at modularity. Since both of our 5,45 and 7,62 ammunition have a 39 mm sleeve, the conversion from one caliber to another is very simple, you just need to change the barrel. It is possible that the new AEK is modular. There is no information refuting this or confirming yet. So we also remove from the minuses, before the official premiere.
                      Quote: Pimply
                      And the M4 weighs a kilo with a small

                      In general, it is purple how much this short-barreled gavnopodelka weighs. For me, and for most, American gavnopodelki are not a standard of small arms.
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 22 October 2013 14: 31
                        -7
                        Quote: Kurkin
                        Is there a neck, though small,? There is. And the blind in our army do not take. Cross out of the minuses.

                        Damn, still it would not be. What nonsense are you talking about. Do you even understand what a "blind" store setting is, and what is it for? A specially shaped neck is required so that a fighter can quickly blindly change the magazine. And these are the basics of weapon ergonomics.

                        Quote: Kurkin
                        But there was also no information that there was none. So it remains to wait for the official premiere and then talk about the shutter delay. The latch of the store is standard, which is what the army is used to and they ask for it and do it. In general, also not a minus.

                        And in the army they got used to the tunics of the 42 of the year. Does this mean that they are a model of modern form? We say it seems about a promising machine, no?

                        At the moment, there is no gate delay in all descriptions. Ak-12 has it.

                        Quote: Kurkin
                        The photo shows that both samples are almost identical and differ only in shops, which, as it were, hints at modularity. Since both of our ammunition 5,45 and 7,62 have a sleeve in 39mm, the conversion from one caliber to another is very simple, you just need to change the barrel. It is possible that the new AEK is modular. There is no information refuting this or confirming yet. So also remove from the minuses, before the official premiere


                        Do you even understand what modularity is? This means changing the store’s receiver, bolt group and barrel in a couple of minutes - and you have a machine for a new caliber. Here it does not smell. It was clearly said - made machines for different calibers.

                        Quote: Kurkin
                        In general, it is purple how much this short-barreled gavnopodelka weighs. For me, and for most, American gavnopodelki are not a standard of small arms.

                        Because you don’t understand a fig about small arms, and the label "our everything" is important for you. Excuse me, but somehow I am not aiming to read insanity.
                      2. Kurkin
                        Kurkin 22 October 2013 18: 54
                        +7
                        Give your source for AEK, where you read about the lack of barrel delays and other things you say. Link or title of literature. You also know little about small arms, since the M4 standard is for you.
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Do you even understand what modularity is? This means changing the store’s receiver, bolt group and barrel in a couple of minutes - and you have a machine for a new caliber. Here it does not smell. It was clearly said - made machines for different calibers.
                        Fuck a goat button accordion? Are you in the trenches under a hail of bullets will you remake the machine for a different type of ammunition? I doubt it very much. Is your M4 modular?
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Because you don’t understand a fig about small arms, and the label "our everything" is important for you. Excuse me, but somehow I am not aiming to read insanity.

                        It’s you who read the Internet and games have played, expert. You are conducting propaganda of Jewish and American gavnopodelkah here and all Russian you want. You didn’t mix up the forums? Here is a patriotic resource. Russophobic on the other side. Go broadcast there. And if you consider your posts as constructive criticism, then write it on the website of the weapons developers, there broadcast your Wishlist. All your alleged cons of our weapons, this is your subjective opinion. And then you did not hold it in your hands and did not shoot from it.
                      3. bunta
                        bunta 22 October 2013 22: 05
                        +6
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Because you do not understand a fig in small arms


                        Sir, Your speculation is not highly professional either. Once you even deigned to shoot by pulling the trigger. Nor did they turn red. You are completely not receptive to self-education. Once having heard and read some thought, you do not even try to interpret it critically and rely on faith in it as in the Lord God. If you think that the purpose of modularity is to ensure multi-caliber in weapons, then leave this thought to yourself and do not tell the experts of gunsmiths and machine builders.
                  2. yehat
                    yehat 16 January 2014 17: 10
                    0
                    Quote: Pimpled. And the M4 weighs a kilo with a little lighter. [/ Quote

                    Therefore, it should not be dropped to the floor)))
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              2. Massik
                Massik 22 October 2013 02: 52
                +3
                Bad neck
                Hold more weapons in your hands, on the AK there is absolutely no mouth and nothing.
                no shutter lag
                learn to count cartridges, wean you to shoot into the white light like a pretty penny, you will calmly change the store with 1 in the trunk
                the shutter is not in the best place, like the AK. Lack of modularity, the impossibility of quick alteration for left-handed people.
                Learn to shoot right right, again, common truths. It’s quite suitable for a professional army, which is really teaching something, well, not for a high gathering of semi-reservists who have no time to get used to, so the 20 reservists will be armed with AKs ....
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 22 October 2013 04: 33
                  -2
                  Quote: Marssik
                  Hold more weapons in your hands, on the AK there is absolutely no mouth and nothing.

                  This does not speak in favor of AK. As for "and nothing" - and you can walk with cancer. But you don’t go? The lack of weapons should not be passed off as dignity.

                  Quote: Marssik
                  learn to count cartridges, wean you to shoot into the white light like a pretty penny, you will calmly change the store with 1 in the trunk

                  Again - do not give out a lack of weapons for dignity. From the very beginning, they taught me to fire only single, so excuse me - I can count ammunition. The shutter lag is not for this, but for a quick change of the store, accelerating the reaction and saving traffic.



                  Quote: Marssik
                  Learn to shoot right right, again, common truths. It’s quite suitable for a professional army, which is really teaching something, well, not for a high gathering of semi-reservists who have no time to get used to, so the 20 reservists will be armed with AKs ....


                  And again, you are trying to elevate the inconvenience of design. You can learn to sleep while standing or on nails. But on the bed you get better sleep.
                  1. Massik
                    Massik 22 October 2013 15: 57
                    +5
                    And again, you are trying to elevate the inconvenience of design. You can learn to sleep while standing or on nails. But on the bed you get better sleep.
                    Not an argument at all. For all my experience in warfare, I have somehow been unable to sleep on beds, more and more on the ground, and occasionally behind armored personnel carriers on the march. For me, they are not flaws, because they are used to using what they give and give up weapons because it is not completely ergonomic, or to blame it for their inoperability, I do not consider it possible.
                  2. berimor
                    berimor 27 October 2013 14: 06
                    +3
                    "... From the very beginning I was taught to fire only single, so excuse me - I can count cartridges."
                    And even in Suvorovsky I was taught to shoot in short bursts (according to 2 - 3 of the cartridge), and for a single shot, one point was shot, because in a modern oncoming battle or when repelling an attack of a large enemy mass, you are unlikely to shoot single from the AUTOMATIC machine !!! Have you ever been in this situation? And I had to!
                  3. CHILD
                    CHILD 2 January 2014 11: 45
                    0
                    you can yell and spit for a long time ..... but the weapon is, first of all, reliability and fulfillment of assigned tasks ..... all your disadvantages are not something critical ... at the expense of modularity, it’s not clear at all .... you are will you carry the whole kit yourself ??? and why? weapons of different hummingbirds for different purposes, but universally, most often it means very average quality, miracles do not happen))) not only do people fight ... and energy issues can be treated differently. ..men at the time I was also surprised by the opener on some weapons)))))
                  4. yehat
                    yehat 16 January 2014 16: 44
                    0
                    a blind store change at night is simply priceless!
                    In addition, there are a huge number of combat situations when you need to look somewhere, when you change the store. For example, running from one shelter to another.
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        2. Moh
          Moh 21 October 2013 17: 07
          +1
          in the first photo like AK-107
          1. Kurkin
            Kurkin 21 October 2013 17: 19
            +3
            The photo is old, still 2011 or 2012. Judging by the latest news, it is the new AEK that is leading in the competition for "Warrior".
        3. Igor39
          Igor39 21 October 2013 22: 46
          +1
          I wanted to ask those who know it, it’s possible to mount a pulse generator in the gas piston of the machine to power the devices? Is the battery in the pen or the butt?
          1. Kurkin
            Kurkin 21 October 2013 23: 59
            +1
            Quote: Igor39
            I wanted to ask those who know it, it’s possible to mount a pulse generator in the gas piston of the machine to power the devices? Is the battery in the pen or the butt?

            An interesting idea, but hardly, although what the hell is not joking. But the battery in the pen or butt is quite possible.
          2. bunta
            bunta 26 October 2013 22: 26
            +1
            The gas piston is not worth it. But along the movement of the bolt frame completely. Modern reed relays and proximity sensors withstand completely unbelievable overloads, microcircuits too. It is possible to create a microcontroller that would give information about the presence of a cartridge in the cartridge, the number of shots per barrel, the remaining cartridges in the magazine, the fuse position, and a bunch of information on a small display on the back of the receiver in front of the insole. And not just the display. In general, ideas to x ... ra ...
  2. Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 22 October 2013 16: 24
    0
    Bazaar no equipment! already want to join our army! it’ll be better for the old one.
  • Koronik
    Koronik 21 October 2013 08: 11
    +8
    "At the same time, the military have already thought about modernizing a promising set of combat equipment."
    Lord can not rush? And to finalize that would be the best.
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 21 October 2013 08: 36
      +5
      This is always the case in all armies. The same states will modernize their equipment every 5-7 years.
    2. Serg 122
      Serg 122 21 October 2013 08: 59
      +4
      I agree. Only here they don’t like to do so, unfortunately
    3. bullet
      bullet 21 October 2013 14: 17
      0
      Unfortunately, this is the last thing they think about ... After all, they have already reported to everyone that we are ahead of the rest .... but in fact, not everything is so cordial. Unfortunately !!!
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo 21 October 2013 08: 19
    +4
    with glonass there are minor malfunctions, I hope they fix it.
    1. recrut6666
      recrut6666 21 October 2013 08: 45
      +1
      small ones? if you watch channel 1, then we have the most important enemies! and we use their GPS and the French matrix !!!!
      1. Kurkin
        Kurkin 21 October 2013 15: 48
        0
        I’m also wondering why GPS. Apparently, it was easier for the enemy to calculate our fighters.
  • Professor
    Professor 21 October 2013 08: 25
    +9
    It is able to withstand overloads up to 350g.

    Liked. good His type will be launched into space. It was impossible to write: "will withstand a fall on concrete from a height of x meters"?
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 21 October 2013 11: 43
      +5
      Overloads, prof, this is not only a fall and launch into space. It is also a shock wave, for example.
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 October 2013 12: 13
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        It is also a shock wave, for example.

        I do not agree. There pressure is crucial.

        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Hike a typo.

        No, not a typo. Overload is so designated, but this figure does not tell us anything to users. Now, if she was transferred to the same height, then no complaints.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 21 October 2013 16: 51
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          I do not agree. There pressure is crucial.

          Not only. There the complex goes. 100g, as far as I remember, corresponds to a mortal wound.
        2. Ka-52
          Ka-52 21 October 2013 16: 53
          +1
          Hmm, there are crash tests in accidents))) Will it work?


          With a side impact, the picture is no better. If the fastened passengers are likely to get off with minor injuries and bruises, then a head-to-head blow, when 106-120 milliseconds after the start of the strike, the unfastened neighbors reach the passengers on the left leaves no chance for them. Peak Overload at 350 g of and a probability coefficient of HIC head injury of 2110 units - a record for the entire history of crash tests "Auto Review"! It’s like getting a leaden bat in your face.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 October 2013 08: 32
    +5
    This set of equipment will be transferred from one soldier to another until it falls under cancellation. For example, if only one soldier will wear a T-shirt, then the summer uniform will be designed for two. The winter form will also have more hosts,


    As the Chinese will sew this equipment, the timing of the socks will move, it is clear which way. These t-shirts will decompose in a month, another ...
    1. yehat
      yehat 16 January 2014 16: 48
      0
      save on washing :)
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 21 October 2013 08: 34
    0
    It is not clear whether they are ready to buy a "warrior" with their field uniforms and a 13-layer from the BTK. What are the overlays in MO
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 21 October 2013 08: 39
      +4
      It goes without saying that to take directly a bktash kit for which there is already a contract, either 2 like NII Stalevsky if I do not confuse. But I would take 2 NII Stalevsky for the field. Since there is a battalion commander shield, and without it in the summer in the armor it is very difficult.
  • atomic
    atomic 21 October 2013 08: 41
    18
    Yes, accept at least something. Everything is promised, nuclear submarines, tanks, ships, planes, maces, assault rifles, helicopters, GLONASS.
    Russian military equipment is the best in the world, it scatters like hot cakes. It can start from yourself, or even like a shoemaker without boots.
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 21 October 2013 10: 25
      -29 qualifying.
      For ships of the first rank and aircraft carriers, forget. The USA forbade Russia to have such ships. We will not have them, as well as enterprises for their construction.
      1. Ilya Mikhalych
        Ilya Mikhalych 21 October 2013 16: 03
        12
        US banned? Ha ha ha Maybe they still forbade Belarusians to eat potatoes, otherwise I eat and don’t know.
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        2. nazgul-ishe
          nazgul-ishe 21 October 2013 22: 12
          0
          Eat on health, then they will take starch from you.
      2. gastrocit
        gastrocit 21 October 2013 17: 27
        +1
        Are you serious or are you joking like that !?
      3. ssergn
        ssergn 22 October 2013 06: 38
        0
        Yes, are you really? laughing

        And the strategic nuclear forces were not accidentally banned, if only something was forbidden, it should have started from this. Do not smack nonsense am
  • major071
    major071 21 October 2013 08: 42
    +6
    The news pleased. The main thing is that they developed their own, and did not buy from foreigners. And about modernization, too, right. While they will deliver (with our suppliers), a new one will need to be developed. soldier
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 14 December 2013 00: 48
      +2
      Quote: major071
      The main thing is that they developed their own, and did not buy from foreigners.

      In general, yes .... But if in detail ... Infa is not enough. For example, they talked about French thermal imagers, but recently there was a rumor about the Russian analogue "Sych-4". Really slowed down development.
      The same number of questions and other "little things" .... Textiles, footwear, etc.
      Where are they produced and from which raw materials?
      I'd like a great review.
      1. Kir
        Kir 14 December 2013 03: 27
        +1
        although not entirely on the topic, for the sake of interest, you look at a site made in russia, especially a company like faraday (obviously either from stupid, with a pretense of foreignness, or with a sense of banter, otherwise it’s difficult to understand) producing a wallpaper, look from what, and at what kind of equipment they do, by the way, he crossed paths with the professionals from the shoe several times, even somehow with something like the deputy chief technologist from the RyazanInvest factory, the one that does the German Reineken, so everyone openly says that molded rubber is better all sorts of TEPs, and Leather also makes rubber, only a question of price and labor intensity, and nonsense such as anti-stress and so on is typical huckster, they've been trying to talk about the French since the 90s, but according to rumors, ours are well loaded with orders, which means either different appointment or something.
  • Selevc
    Selevc 21 October 2013 08: 43
    +9
    An interesting outfit - in the 2nd photo, the helmet on the soldier really sits on the top of the head and the head is almost open ... Plus glasses are attached that are of little use ...

    I don’t know how others, but when I look and compare new developments in the field of equipment of the countries of the former USSR and Western countries, I constantly do not leave the thought that everything is somehow formally and somehow divorced from life ...
    1. Dmitriy1975
      Dmitriy1975 21 October 2013 10: 19
      +5
      I don’t agree about glasses at all, I had to participate in events in desert landscapes, they are very necessary !!
      1. smirnov
        smirnov 21 October 2013 13: 00
        +4
        He also drew attention to the depth of the helmet, sitting like a yarmulke on the crown of a Jew ...
      2. Selevc
        Selevc 21 October 2013 13: 42
        +6
        Such glasses have been used for a long time - earlier mainly by pilots or tankers to protect the eyes from dust and incoming air during the fast movement of the tank (plane) ...
        The Americans used them in Iraq - this is a simple and good protection against sand in a region where sandstorms are a frequent occurrence ... Perhaps they will be needed in a snowstorm ... But it seems to me that it is more advisable to carry them in a backpack and get out only as needed ... Fighting in them is problematic because they limit the review, can fog up, smear or give distortion ...
        1. yehat
          yehat 16 January 2014 16: 53
          0
          Quote: Selevc
          Such glasses have been used for a long time ... To fight in them is problematic since they ... may fog up ...

          you should drink less! )))
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  • IsailoR
    IsailoR 21 October 2013 08: 44
    +2
    Again misunderstandings with AK-12.
    "At the current stage, the Ratnik weapons system includes the latest version of the AK"
    They said that AK were not admitted to state tests. Should AEK be?
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 21 October 2013 13: 22
      +1
      But I did not understand how you can set a date for adoption
      before conducting state tests. And if something is wrong?
      Or have to modify?
      1. bullet
        bullet 21 October 2013 13: 41
        +3
        You're right! Any comments on the compliance with the TTZ should be corrected and confirmed by repeated GIs. Although the trends of recent years show that only the administrative resource is crucial ...
        The entire test system that existed in the GRAU system is unfortunately destroyed, and the question of its resuscitation is of no interest to anyone.
      2. Walker1975
        Walker1975 21 October 2013 15: 24
        +1
        Very simple! A prospectus is being made where it is described that everything is the same, and even better - that has no analogues in the world, well, in the most extreme case - not inferior to the best Western analogues. Then solemnly announced the date of adoption. All responsible people receive state prizes, awards and new ranks ....
        Well, and then refinement begins, the dates may be reviewed and not coincide with the stated ones. Or they fit the deadlines, but at the expense of lower quality or requirements.
        How many times was that?

        By the way, I didn't get it. It was said that the enemy would not see the soldiers in the "Ratnik" through thermal sights. But what about the head? They are also open in the photo.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 21 October 2013 14: 57
      +1
      Quote: IsailoR
      Again misunderstandings with AK-12.
      "At the current stage, the Ratnik weapons system includes the latest version of the AK"
      They said that AK were not admitted to state tests. Should AEK be?

      There is no final decision yet. AEK, admitted to military tests and ordered only an experimental batch. AK-12, you can also participate in the tests, but on their own initiative and at their own expense.
      Since there is no adoption of either one yet, the delay with the Warrior is understandable.
    3. ssergn
      ssergn 22 October 2013 07: 17
      0
      Who should?
      Go to the website of the Kalashnikov concern.
    4. yehat
      yehat 16 January 2014 16: 56
      0
      defeated AK.
      the army will use cheap assault rifles, cheap cartridges and will continue to be an oblique weapon both in bursts and single.
      There were already so many topics about the idiocy of using AK in urban conditions!
      Neither dimensions, nor weight, nor cartridge - nothing suits!
      1. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 16 January 2014 16: 58
        0
        yehat RU
        If you are oblique is your problem.
        If you are not very smart, there are two ways-1) do not write anything at all
        2) read more until you get your mind.
        1. yehat
          yehat 16 January 2014 17: 03
          0
          from 50 meters I will probably beat 48 out of 50 from Kalash.
          so not oblique. But during the battle in a hurry, probably no more than 20.
          The simplicity of accurate defeat is an important thing. AEK in this sense is better
          because you can stupidly turn the turn CAUTION and you will fall, and you won’t loom while you aim - you’ll stay alive.
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  • Strashila
    Strashila 21 October 2013 08: 52
    +3
    A'la West again ... it's hard to just give the soldiers basic knitted cotton gloves with rubber bands on the inside ... but finally, cover your glasses with a case ... they even glint in the photo. Would complement polarized sunglasses ... both in summer and winter with snow.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 21 October 2013 09: 21
      +8
      + media player + chewing gum + cola ... smile
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 21 October 2013 11: 46
      -1
      If a la West - there would be less crap. In western equipment, glasses are supplemented with a cover.

      And what exactly are the gloves in the picture two annoying you with?
      1. Hon
        Hon 21 October 2013 18: 40
        +2
        If you look closely, a cover is plugged under the gum of the glasses.
  • Ddhal
    Ddhal 21 October 2013 09: 08
    0
    I am glad that they have finally moved off the ground.
    How, after all, the development of our country depends on specific people, and not a systematic approach. It bothers the most ..
  • Hellriker
    Hellriker 21 October 2013 09: 08
    +1
    Good news! It’s a pity the truth is that we still have to catch up and catch up with the same USMC for equipment. I wonder what kind of glasses, plastic ballistic, anti-reflective coating, anti-fog there?
  • Asgard
    Asgard 21 October 2013 09: 16
    26
    Yes, a soldier needs individual protection ...
    But all sorts of electronic gadgets are already a perversion ...
    In real fighting, which smartphone, Glonas, display)))
    American movies seen enough ????
    In both Yugoslavia and Chechnya we used bulletproof vests, a helmet, paper cards, a flashlight, and BRAINS))))
    camouflage and the workmanship of berets (I confess were removed from the corpses) are very important) often they had the highest quality ...
    They threw electronics (there is no electric power on the task))
    Walkie-talkies-that's a sore subject, wait, I have an all-frequency receiver-scanner (brought from Dubai-prohibited in Russia)) on it you can track the approach of a "group of saboteurs" leading radio exchanges with a scrambler and changing the frequency ... There is no useful device to listen to .... ...., but the disturbance of the electromagnetic fields - speaks of the approach of the "equipped group" and before they detect us - We could get ready ...
    There should be three radio stations in the group (we don’t share anymore))
    each is a perversion, especially as with amers with the VOX system (voice activation))

    Sleeping bags- brought from Chechnya, English with two liner sheets (they just dry in the wind)) at a temperature of -30, you lie in the snow in shorts, closed with a zipper, breathe through the valve, if it snows, then the water that has melted does not get inside (nanotechnology) )))

    Optical sights with enlightened optics (allow you to shoot at dusk))
    we make a muffler from a plastic bottle (at a time))
    laser rangefinder is a useful thing and almost does not require power))) is needed ....
    compass....
    hours, preferably for everyone ... (important for organizing group activities))
    Knives, with plate steel, those that bend, but do not break (often you have to sharpen, but do not stay without a device)))
    Kapron ropes, tensile strength kg800 ...
    First-aid kits with the necessary set ...
    means for unmasking from animals (important for actions in rural areas))
    The stun gun is powerful (also a useful device, to disable communication lines, auto electronics, turn off the enemy for a certain time))
    Sapper blade (so that she could chop nails))))
    That's all perhaps the necessary soldier))))
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 21 October 2013 10: 49
      -3
      Nonsense from beginning to end. Especially about the shocker amused. Or maybe give everyone an injury? laughing
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 21 October 2013 12: 30
        10
        And more specifically, you can paint "nonsense" ...
        You have a lot of comments, but something without specificity and semantic content ....
        As a psychologist would say ... "nonsense" according to Freud

        Below, a Jew (purple)) expressed himself more or less meaningfully ... though the means of destruction were a bow, arrows, firearm .... put on a par with cave paintings, a book and a TV))))

        Well, that’s how the Jews rewrote history, replacing concepts and educating the soul of the Executives who are ready to say something ... pointless ....
        like the Jews, incoherently))))
        If you comment and say something, then do it logically ....
        as well as a meaningless set of bukfs without taking into account the rules of the Russian language and meaning.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 21 October 2013 16: 59
          +4
          Quote: Asgard
          Well, that’s how the Jews rewrote history, replacing concepts and educating the soul of the Executives who are ready to say something ... pointless ....


          My dear man, you violate the rules of the site and the laws of the Criminal Code. This is for a start.

          Secondly - Prikazchikov rightly said: nonsense.

          Well, for example, due to the fact that one of the main problems has always been the orientation of the soldier, and the management of the unit in real combat without the ability to see all the fighters.

          Ballistic computing, communication, the definition of friend or foe - all of this is electronics. Individual night vision devices: all electronics.

          They threw electronics - you are strong. There were no batteries - the problem was logistics, bad batteries and bad electronics, not the electronics as a whole.


          we make a silencer from a plastic bottle (at a time)) - yeah, and he normally does not hold more than one shot. Unlike normal industrial.


          And least of all the soldier needs these show-offs.
      2. Tyumen
        Tyumen 21 October 2013 13: 29
        0
        Then to the full set of batons and gas cans. :-)
      3. smile
        smile 21 October 2013 19: 16
        +2
        Alexey Prikazchikov
        Well, why are you laughing? :))) Just imagine how a warrior from a Strongly Very Deep Intelligence in ambush displays the electronics of an enemy car, catching it and painfully jerking a shocker. :))) At the same time, the entire crew of the combat vehicle is also incapacitated - he instantly dies with laughter ... Valuable thing! Otherwise, you will not be able to disable the car .... well, except that with a bottle silencer, which is clearly better than some regular ones ... :)))
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 21 October 2013 11: 47
      +2
      Quote: Asgard
      In real fighting, which smartphone, Glonas, display)))

      Which gunshot? - said the ancestors, waving a bow.
    3. Massik
      Massik 21 October 2013 15: 29
      +6
      They forgot the loading and unloading, but you cannot go far without these things))
    4. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 21 October 2013 16: 37
      +4
      "what smartphone, Glonas, display)))"
      Well then! Wild Russian soldiers almost do not use all this at combat exits ... which greatly complicates their detection! This, of course, is a terrible mess. So, using the satellite constellation, the Pentagon has a good opportunity to observe practically in real time all the soldiers of any army in the world who are actively using smartphones for example. And only non-modern Russians ... Immediately supply! Immediately!
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 21 October 2013 21: 01
        +2
        And further. Literally a couple of photos from the "army" smart, a dozen other completely harmless comments of a brave military man, even if they do not even touch on anything secret and ... Considering the almost limitless possibilities of comparing information arrays, with the colossal size of these same arrays, and now the supercomputers of a potential enemy easily exposed the most secret operations, the latest weapons and the most secret people. I can't imagine anything more dangerous at this point in time. Nuclear weapons are a breeze by comparison ...
    5. yehat
      yehat 16 January 2014 17: 00
      0
      I would add, the relief of weapons, so that more could constantly carry equipment with you.
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  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 21 October 2013 09: 45
    +1
    As the "partners" say sounds good, God forbid that all this finally comes true for everyone.
    [media = http: //russia2.tv/video/show/brand_id/23245/video_id/249427]
  • erased
    erased 21 October 2013 09: 50
    +1
    Let's see how the tests pass. I wonder what will be the main weapon then - AK in one of the modifications or something else?
  • anykind
    anykind 21 October 2013 10: 11
    +4
    The matrix of the thermal imager is not only French, but also outdated (((For amers, the resolution of the matrices has already stepped over 10 years for 2000 ... Apparently, our lag is about 20-30 years, at least.
  • Sirozha
    Sirozha 21 October 2013 10: 40
    +3
    Surprisingly - and not one comment about the fact that it is necessary to leave the footcloths in service! It’s strange even somehow! laughing
    It’s time for the soldiers to wear normal modern clothes!
  • Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 21 October 2013 10: 46
    0
    Caught up yesterday. Now you need to work accelerated with exoskeletons and combine them with the Warrior.
  • Alez
    Alez 21 October 2013 10: 51
    +4
    In this case, information about the location of the fighter on the battlefield will automatically arrive at the CP.
    Is the question of a possible interception by the adversary of this information being worked out?
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 21 October 2013 14: 01
      +5
      Quote: Alez
      Is the question of a possible interception by the adversary of this information being worked out?


      interception or banal discharge ... (((((
      I drew the same attention to this.
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 21 October 2013 10: 52
    0
    Quote: Professor
    It is able to withstand overloads up to 350g.

    Liked. good His type will be launched into space. It was impossible to write: "will withstand a fall on concrete from a height of x meters"?


    Hike a typo. wink
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 21 October 2013 11: 03
    +1
    And why didn’t anyone put on a protective mask in the photographs?
  • v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 21 October 2013 11: 15
    +1
    I am not an expert in such things. maybe a stupid question: But is it visible in our latest thermal imaging sight of a fighter in Ratnik?
    It is noteworthy that the soldier’s armored suit blocks radiation in the infrared and ultraviolet spectrum, which makes it invisible in the thermal imaging sight.
  • Rosomaha67
    Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 12: 14
    +9
    Quote: Asgard


    Optical sights with enlightened optics (allow you to shoot at dusk))
    we make a muffler from a plastic bottle (at a time))
    laser rangefinder is a useful thing and almost does not require power))) is needed ....
    compass....
    hours, preferably for everyone ... (important for organizing group activities))
    Knives, plate steel, those that bend, but do not break (more often you have to sharpen, but you do not remain without a device)))
    Kapron ropes, tensile strength kg800.
    First-aid kits with the necessary set ...
    means for unmasking from animals (important for actions in rural areas))
    The stun gun is powerful (also a useful device, to disable communication lines, auto electronics, turn off the enemy for a certain time))
    Sapper blade(so that she could chop nails))))
    That's all perhaps the necessary soldier))))


    ...... everything was cool until the commentator got in particular, and then the TOTAL RIDDEN of the "tough specialist" began:
    ... well, what are sights with "enlightened optics" I understood
    ..... but "mufflers from PLASTIC bottles for one time", I was simply plunged into Homeric laughter, another victim of Steven Seagal's films, it is immediately clear that the author of the comment never tried to make a muffler out of a bottle even for 22LR, I’m already talking about combat calibers do not say ...
    ...... "knives with plate steel" is another talented pearl of this tough specialist, perhaps I just lagged behind modern times, maybe our great blacksmiths-gunsmiths invented new grades of steel for knives or our research institutes of metal science tried here, or maybe the author from someone I just heard about knives made of spring steel and unknowingly misinterpreted the brand ...
    ... "nylon ropes withstand a break of 800 kg" - to see the author did not realize that the minimum safe breaking load on the climbing cable is not less than 1500 kg, and everything that is not used less is considered unsafe, it is immediately clear that the commentator is a great specialist in mountains and highlands .....
    .... the electric shocker in the special forces also amused - I will not write anew about the notorious overweight, but usually communication lines are disabled by a simple break by cutting or biting, we generally shot or exploded the electronics, the car is simply removed by "removing" the ignition wires, well or, again, a lumbago, an explosion, in the end with a rifle butt, but the enemy is knocked out of action with a rifle butt on the head or by "learned hand-to-hand combat techniques"
    .... sapper shovel - it turns out that the author of the comment has the main criterion for it so that the nails are chopped, maybe it's really important, but I never saw shovels made of hardened steel and I wouldn’t take it myself, when digging in stony soil, the edge can be broken off and sharpened hardened steel is still a pleasure !!!
    .... generally a cool comment - I liked it - I advise Comrade. Asgard to start writing adventure novels about special forces. exuberant imagination and, most importantly, "not constrained" by professional knowledge and experience, which usually prevents the reader from writing well on the above topics and captivating the reader into the jungle of his "super special forces" BREDA !!!
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 21 October 2013 13: 58
      +9
      Quote: Asgard
      Kapron ropes, tensile strength kg800 ...

      Quote: Rosomaha67
      a gap on a climbing cable of at least 1500 kg, and anything less is not used is considered not safe

      It seems they did not understand each other.
      There are reps, there are ropes.

      And the same “cords” are different.
      Nobody will “eight” to squeeze off a jacket with a ruzaku, and “four” to do a full binding.
      Each has its own purpose.
      ------------

      So is the Warrior - one for the ground crews, another for the crews, and third specialists.

      These conversations about Ratnik are already staggering ... its price is increasing along with many years of promises of deliveries to the troops.
      It would be given to "feel" in linear parts, and there it will be seen what kind of ... ahem. "constructor".
      wink
      1. Massik
        Massik 21 October 2013 15: 33
        +1
        You never can make everyone enjoy it) It’s easier to give the contractor 50t.rub and let him outfit as he wants, it will be his problems ...
        1. CARasev
          CARasev 20 December 2013 02: 45
          0
          BETTER THAN 50 THOUSAND YEAR, ON SNARAG AND SOCKS, AGREES
      2. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 21 October 2013 20: 08
        +1
        Quote: Aleks tv
        These conversations about Ratnik are sick of


        I won’t argue, but Ratnik is already morally obsolete - recently there was news in the media that the Yankees gave their military-industrial complex 3 years to develop new equipment. Necessarily with an exoskeleton.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 21 October 2013 17: 04
      0
      Quote: Rosomaha67
      ..... but "mufflers from PLASTIC bottles at one time", I was simply plunged into Homeric laughter, another victim of Steven Seagal's films, it is immediately clear that the author of the comment never tried to make a muffler from a bottle even for 22LR, I’m talking about combat calibers do not say ..

      Not, to be honest, you can do one if you want. It may even be enough for one shot. But these same "specialists", in principle, do not panic about the appointment of Glushak ...
  • LSV
    LSV 21 October 2013 12: 22
    +3
    There may be flaws, but this is removable. Now they are driving on tests, they will make some adjustments. The main thing is that the process is ongoing. Maybe someone in the near future and life will save.
  • corn
    corn 21 October 2013 12: 43
    +6
    - "Only one serviceman will wear a T-shirt" (wash or clean himself?);
    - "summer uniform will be designed for two" (one walks today, tomorrow or two?);
    - "The winter form will also have more hosts" (how many?).
    Specially looked at the composition of the kit, there were answers (to the contents of the article and terminology):
    I will not list the entire set, I will take part of what relates to the life support system:
    - Kamenskvolokno company’s aramid overalls made of fiber “Alutex”, capable of withstanding the ingress of fragments of grenades, mines or shells, and also has a certain fire resistance;
    - the life support system includes various types of backpacks (a universal backpack with a volume of 50 liters, a raid pack of 10 liters; an unloading vest with interchangeable quick-detachable elements), camouflage kits, a folding heat-insulating gasket, a removable insulation for use in winter, a ventilated T-shirt, a compartment compartment vest ammunition, rug, cloak, hat, cap comforter, mosquito net.
    The conclusion can be made as follows:
    -Set is not a subject of everyday wear;
    - there is no summer or winter form of "Warrior";
    -it will carry not one, not two, etc. military personnel, the set will most likely be considered inventory and different service life will be set for its various components (to the author: if you decide to write an article, own a terminalogy).
    As a joke: what about eggs that do not sweat, how to ventilate them?
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 21 October 2013 16: 02
      +2
      Quote: corn
      As a joke: what about eggs that do not sweat, how to ventilate them?

      Yes, what kind of jokes, really something very much "saved" ...
      Is it really impossible to follow the experience (rather successful, what’s there ...) of the armed forces of a number of countries of the NATO bloc, Selling B \ U uniforms and military equipment in civilian stores ...
      These goods are eagerly bought up, including in Russia and in the republics of the former USSR. And I think our used "Ratnik" would be sold as well!

      So it's easier to "shove" a new recruit into a premature kit, or still "crush the rolls" and sell B \ Ear kits to the population, while earning some extra money (in the best sense of the word) ...
      1. CARasev
        CARasev 20 December 2013 03: 45
        0
        AHA, they strangle themselves, that he received mechs, hand in, though the deadline has expired, but as the head of business he was selling junk, so normal. We don’t spare the army, I wore socks, I didn’t demolish, my legs didn’t sweat (though I bought berets myself, I don’t remember), the sock is thick and it’s not hot in the summer (my legs were flooded in a swamp, in the evening I took off my legs and socks with legs I rinsed it in a pool with soap, again 25, tibia and forward, I thought I would erase it - I didn’t peel back, I didn’t even stink)
  • Rosomaha67
    Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 12: 53
    0
    Quote: Asgard
    And more specifically, you can paint "nonsense" ...
    You have a lot of comments, but something without specificity and semantic content ....
    As a psychologist would say ... "nonsense" according to Freud

    Below, a Jew (purple)) expressed himself more or less meaningfully ... though the means of destruction were a bow, arrows, firearm .... put on a par with cave paintings, a book and a TV))))

    Well, that’s how the Jews rewrote history, replacing concepts and educating the soul of the Executives who are ready to say something ... pointless ....
    like the Jews, incoherently))))
    If you comment and say something, then do it logically ....
    as well as a meaningless set of bukfs without taking into account the rules of the Russian language and meaning.


    ..... I have already written above, read "writer", and at the same time tell us how you distinguish negotiations with the encoder of one group from another, because they are conducted in the ZAS, since you can track the same group if it changes frequencies, or your "all-wave interceptor" can decrypt the ZAS ?????
    ...... reveal the secret of what is "disturbance of electromagnetic fields" and why are they so indignant there, too, protesting against Putin's economic policy ????? laughing laughing laughing
    ....... and even enlighten what kind of electronics you threw in Yugoslavia and Chechnya ????? interesting too ....
    ....... according to your comment, I get the impression that you even if you were in Chechnya. it was more likely that they were engaged in looting, well, they were forced to take off their boots before being shot, but more as an intimidation, so to speak, even the phrase was formed: "take off your boots and march to the parapet", at the beginning of the first company there were problems with providing uniforms, but then everything improved, and in the second there were no such problems at all. Well, unless you wanted to have just such cool boots from a corpse ...
    ... well, the Anglican sleeping bag could be obtained only by collecting trophies from the Mujahideen, he did not enter the standard equipment of special forces and mountain shooters ...
    .... about individual r / st you also said complete nonsense, even our "poor" special forces group was equipped with ordinary cops' Transport for communication within the group, and also had two Motorola for communication with the base, + radio stations on armored personnel carriers, so that the saturation of the unit with communications is of great positive importance ...
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 21 October 2013 14: 11
      0
      Well, since you are a special Wolverine, then not really (in my opinion))
      The scanner with a minimum sensitivity in the region of 3 km (in a mountainous, wooded area)) not saturated with communication means is triggered by frequency tuning, even on a carrier of any radio station appearing within this distance ... without decoding (ZAS)) and frequency jumps .. .
      Well, let’s put This is known only to people with education (special)))
      Alpine rope - Have you seen this skein that can withstand body weight from 10G when falling ???
      And we took a skein of rope (as taught in special forces)) similar to a grandmother's tangle))))
      It can’t cross the mountain gorge, and you can go down to the gorge without jerking and jumping)))) lift the wounded, bungle the carrier (learn shkolota)))
      We found a stun gun from the militants, choked on people, I liked it, and it’s very good to display walkie-talkies, station computers, on-board computers on vehicles (visually it seems like nothing happened and there’s no need to shoot, primitive primates)))
      Silencer for one shot from a plastic bottle ????? I would tell how it is done (but I was already warned for the dissemination of special knowledge)))
      But you can do it .... and you don't need to carry PBS or UBS for "devices", in principle they are always needed for one or two shots ....
      Steel 65G or 65X13 or for the manufacture of KNIFE fit spring billet-Kuznets call this plate ........
      and so on and Regards, otherwise the nature of the comment does not characterize you very much(to put it mildly))))))I here with reverence for the People (always)) all the more not knowing them personally ......

      Yes, and the wolverine is a cautious animal and never attacks those who are stronger than it (smart hurt, so it dies with its death almost always either in a trap)))) somewhere there is a photo (laid out-boasted))), sometimes dabble in traps and got caught. ......
      also probably to myself something exceptional thought)))))))))

      But I found ....
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 21 October 2013 14: 44
        +6
        I, like a knife maker, will correct a little. Lamellar is not called steel, namely the spring.
        By its design. But the plates in the spring are made of 65G steel.
      2. Rosomaha67
        Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 14: 50
        0
        ..... it attacks, not often, but always from the back, which is why it is dangerous for hunters, it will mess up the tracks until you figure it out, it will be ...... I live in a place where this beast is still found, although rarely .. ...
        ...... well, let's put it in a high-mountainous area, in a circle of 3 km you could not count on the presence of some other radio sources, but in the mountainous and wooded, in Chechnya, at least the "opposite side" of radio stations had a lot, and the common population had enough of this stuff, and looks askance when it detects any "carrier" interference, you know, it's quite problematic, though we were always ready, besides, I'm not a communication specialist, but as far as I know, the transmitter does not emit carrier in listening mode or what I don’t know ????
        ... and we have blacksmiths all their life called "spring" or "spring", so probably the confusion ...
        ..... for my grandmother's skein, thank you "teacher", my mind will simply be overwhelmed by such incomprehensible and ingenious decisions, but I will probably not be able to learn, sorry, well, the brain of the "shkolota" is not capable, even to repeat such witty and phenomenal decisions of the Guru, I am too insignificant in his ignorance .......
        .... we were taught in the center of mountain training and said so you go to the mountains for a day, get ready for a week, you can go down, of course, but it’s like without jerks and jumps, but what if you need .... moreover, this is first of all insurance in case of breakdowns and falls, as you insured yourself there only God knows. Of course, without fish and cancer, the fish, if I just didn’t understand it, I had it myself, but I’m saying that I think it’s not right enough, I’ll carry it around, well, it’ll last about two or three km in the mountains, there’s always something then you’re offended, it’s rubbed, so the carrying there must also be durable ....
        .... disable on-board computers on vehicles, what do you mean, vehicles of civilians, or means of transportation of military equipment of a potential enemy, I wonder how you disable the computer of the Amer’s armored personnel carrier, by touching an external reservation or something, again I am convinced that you in Chechnya didn’t fight weakly with the civilian population, I don’t condemn, but the professional doesn’t face the anger in the population (spoil cars), it’s necessary to see for this that there should be no external signs of incapacitation, so as not to fired .... wink.... but to me, a "primitive primate" destroying the enemy's electonic installations with an ordinary burst from the AK, of course, does not understand this, the "shkolota", as always, lacks brains for such a "filigree" technique of reason ...
        ..... as I understand it, your muffler from a plastic bottle is a more complicated device than PBS, it will or it will not work, provide the necessary sound reduction, or provide the required accuracy of shooting, and most likely it does not muffle anything at all, only in your imagination, Well, about special knowledge, this is generally a masterpiece, or we have a personal track too, if you are so sure so tell in a personal, your secrets of the "Madrid court". well, or write an application to the patent office, you will be given a cash prize for the discovery and all our designers will be ashamed, what the hell to us PBS and VSSy, if all the doors are filled with plastic "mufflers" .....
        ..... and also excuse me, but educate the "shkolota" how you can get 10 G when falling under gravity, I'm very interested, otherwise maybe they taught me the wrong thing at school, then I will immediately enroll in the first grade with you GURU ! ..... and you will teach me everything again TEACHER !!!!
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 21 October 2013 15: 13
          +1
          once again "hang" you and have fun)))))
          ! 10G is written on an alpine cable (in the anatomy on a HUGE HANDLE)) that you dragged into the mountains, and where to find such an overload to the manufacturer))))))))))))))))) BODY WEIGHT (WITH EQUIPMENT) ) IF FALLED FROM 90 METERS
          But in general, we were taught in the Soviet Army to go out with bare hands and return with ammunition and fully equipped (including a stun gun, by the way, you can borrow in any ATC))))))
          After the service, I graduated from the Institute of Communications named after Prof. Bonch-Bruevich (not to be confused with the revolutionary))) and the Ural Mining Academy .... (SPECIALLY AND NOT FOR THREE))))

          Well, as I pull on GURU))))))
          voobscheto chuyka you developed ... (student)))
          BUT IN GENERAL OUR TALKING SIMILAR TO THIS
          1. Massik
            Massik 21 October 2013 16: 30
            +3
            Quite interestingly, I want to hear healthy criticism and an authoritative opinion from such specialists regarding the equipment of a building battalion serviceman for 15 days of autonomy, which I used for a while:
            1) Household items clogging a place inside and outside the taxiway
            1. Backpack multi-chamber Attack-3 (only 3t.rub in the Khankala market)
            2. Litter mat (ordinary tourist junk for 700 rubles with a heat-protective layer) 1n for 2x
            3. Two-layer sleeping ring (similar to paragraph 2, the price is 1800 rubles) 1 on 2x
            4. Tent 4-6m (produced by "Alloy" somewhere 2500-3000 rubles) 1 by 2x
            5. A rope of 25m (600 rubles bought in a hardware store)
            6. Standard MSL sharpened in a circle (issued by the Motherland can be found for 500 rubles)
            7.Gas burner and n-th number of gas cylinders (also point 2 800rub, 1 cylinder -120 rub)
            2) Food
            1. The standard dry share in the Russian Federation 1 day for 2 days (issued by Rodina, 800 rubles in the store) toilet paper roll)))
            2.N-th number of water tanks, taking into account 1 liter per day
            3) Clothing and shoes
            1.2 Mask.gown ("Partizan" produced by MTR for 3600 rubles and a cheap one bought on the market for 1000 rubles)
            2.Soldier's waterproof suit a la "Bundeswehr" made of gortex (bought used for 2000 rubles)
            3.Berski MFN, Rag berets and stockings from OZK (3500 rubles, 1200 rubles and 300 rubles deputy. On the rear)
            4. Spare 2 pairs of underpants and ordinary cotton socks 9 pairs (all together no more than 1000 rubles)
            4) Weapons and equipment
            1.Ak-74m automatic, 12 stores and 300 rounds in packs (Homeland gave the state price 1880rub)
            2. Sight of night PKN-03 or 1PN93 (as well as point 1)
            3.RPS "Smersh" (3300 rubles) additional pouches (for 4000 rubles approximately)
            4. Knife "Kite" (produced by Kizlyar 2000 rubles)
            5.3 IPP and harness.
            It seems like everyone else, note 1 on 2x, an item that drags 1n, but is used on 2x.
            1. Rosomaha67
              Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 16: 36
              0
              ..... why the normal kit, it’s even worse, in principle it’s quite digestible if there is no better, and then, as I understand it, you didn’t have, the only question is why the sleeping bag is one for two people ????
              1. Massik
                Massik 21 October 2013 20: 22
                +2
                At night, when you are sitting in a freshly dug trench, one is sleeping, and two are on a chip, so the sleeping bag is even 1 on 3, if you have an idea about the military work of the HPSG, you should know.
            2. Lesnik
              Lesnik 21 October 2013 18: 35
              +1
              I am wildly sorry, but according to preliminary estimates, your kit will weigh over 60 kg, which means that you can still carry this load, but you can no longer carry it.
              1. Massik
                Massik 21 October 2013 20: 28
                +4
                You are mistaken, I walked with a machine gun and 2 monks, and there are machine gunners who have a machine gun + RPS with cartridges weighing 43,4 kg + the same things as mine, there are granomet throwers and flame throwers that carry an additional RPG-7 +5 shots or an MPO pipe, radio operators and sappers each with their own swag; so it turns out that the first 2 mountains are crisp, and the next ones under a dose of ammonia. The whole thing is only in fitness, well, after a year I became 3 cm shorter, no horizontal bar could save)))
                1. Rex
                  Rex 22 October 2013 10: 56
                  +1
                  Healthy you guys ...
                  Harsh service, however - God was merciful.
                  There is not enough knowledge to imagine the military necessity of a 15-day autonomy with such a set in our "points" over the past 25 years ..
            3. saygon66
              saygon66 21 October 2013 20: 46
              0
              - And warm up? At night, in the mountains, in the forest - a calter ...
              1. Massik
                Massik 22 October 2013 00: 48
                0
                Yes, I missed a hunting fleece suit and a soldier’s sweater with inserts, but this is closer to the spring of autumn, and a dry alcohol tablet from a dry can in a tin can warm my legs or a hut for 20 minutes.
  • spirit
    spirit 21 October 2013 13: 54
    0
    Well, at least something! but we all understand that this costume is no longer unique; therefore, it is being finalized immediately. and there is still such a fear that they can put what is there, and not what is needed. Now, if, at the whim of the soldiers, we adjusted the suit and we could supply all the useful (and not unnecessary) devices, that would be great.
  • Goodmen
    Goodmen 21 October 2013 14: 22
    +4
    The main thing is that these devices should work ... and not like with the Olympic torch - they’ll make money, they promised that you’ll blow it ... ((((
    It is high time to apply modern technology in the army. It is only desirable to have less foreigners, otherwise suddenly what kind of a toss is tossed. We ourselves need to completely produce everything so that we do not depend on anyone.
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 21 October 2013 14: 37
      +2
      Thermal imagers in the emirates cost from $ 5t of acceptable quality (but they are not needed)) Electronics only unmask, We turned on the radios once a day. Or during a clash, when a part remains in ambush and the rest are led to them.
      In the thrill of battle, poorly trained militants often fell into such "snares" ...
      Moreover, almost always there were stupid wounds on our part (either ricochet or fragments of a grenade), they never lost soldiers ...
      Then such equipment would be ....
      Us battalion commander on tactics forced to swim in the bronics (with plates))
      here is Gad, we thought then, and He SAID us (man))
      Mr. Alpeev ..... Fire man.
  • understudy
    understudy 21 October 2013 14: 45
    +1
    Somehow passed by the attention that ... "The cost of one thermal imaging sight is 900 thousand rubles. "Well, how many of these scopes will get directly to the soldiers, even with mass production and some kind of price reduction per piece? That's it ...
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 21 October 2013 15: 00
      +2
      Quote: Understudy
      Somehow passed by the attention that ... "The cost of one thermal imaging sight is 900 thousand rubles." Well, how many of these scopes will go directly to the soldiers, even with mass production and some kind of price reduction per unit? That's it ...

      The price will be reduced, but a large order is needed. In the meantime, all the piece assembly. And the matrices will start their own either from 14, or from the age of 15 to stamp.
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  • lucidlook
    lucidlook 21 October 2013 14: 57
    0
    At the current stage, the Warrior’s weapon system includes the latest version of the AK, equipped with a night vision scope, under-barrel grenade launcher and a thermal imaging aiming system.

    In the top photo, the fighter is shown with AK-105 - balanced automation and all that.
  • Rosomaha67
    Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 15: 20
    0
    Quote: Asgard

    Us battalion commander on tactics forced to swim in the bronics (with plates))
    here is Gad, we thought then, and He SAID us (man))
    Mr. Alpeev ..... Fire man.


    ..... I do not detract from the merits of Mr. Alpeev, but can you explain the weight of the bulletproof vest, you can just make the brand, the year in which this event took place, as well as the distance for the swim and the depth of the "pool" used ?????? ?
    ... or maybe it's really time for me to go to "school", and the hell they drove me on the topic of crossing a water obstacle and organizing improvised means to ensure the crossing, it turns out that I just had to learn to swim in a bulletproof vest ...
  • Migari
    Migari 21 October 2013 15: 29
    +4
    Maybe this time they will think about comfort, lightness and durability, so that really those who wear it would be good in it, how many times can it be done and redone.
  • Siberian
    Siberian 21 October 2013 15: 34
    +1
    People!! Everyone speaks this and that about "Warrior" but tell me who else wore, tried on or used for some time? Tell me your opinion, if any. We are waiting for specific statements.
  • Rosomaha67
    Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 15: 39
    -2
    Quote: Asgard

    ! 10G is written on an alpine cable (in the anatomy on a HUGE HANDLE)) that you dragged into the mountains, and where to find such an overload to the manufacturer))))))))))))))))) BODY WEIGHT (WITH EQUIPMENT) ) IF FALLED FROM 90 METERS
    But in general, we were taught in the Soviet Army to go out with bare hands and return with ammunition and fully equipped (including a stun gun, by the way, you can borrow in any ATC))))))
    After the service, I graduated from the Institute of Communications named after Prof. Bonch-Bruevich (not to be confused with the revolutionary))) and the Ural Mining Academy .... (SPECIALLY AND NOT FOR THREE))))

    Well, as I pull on GURU))))))
    voobscheto chuyka you developed ... (student)))


    .... well, you see the chuyka has developed at least some useful trait for the specialist ..... so what about the carrier at the transmitter-receiver in listening mode or is it still broadcast, which is there at the Bonch-Bruyevich Institute speak on this subject ????
    ... we used Russian-made cables, we bought them in stores because we didn’t see the 10 G markings, our tensile strength and tensile strength in kg are usually indicated on ours. huge skeins unfortunately do not drag. usually a fighter takes a length of 50, 100 meters. Then, if necessary, they are joined, in exceptional cases (if it is known in advance what is needed) it is possible to use a single piece of 150 meters, but it is very inconvenient to carry, I have never encountered such a thing, but HUGE HOLES no one can drag because I I didn’t see the manufacturer’s marking ........ by the way, as a worthy representative of the Soviet-Russian school of higher education, you probably agree with me that under conditions of gravity, a freely falling body (no matter what weight it is) will not accelerate more than 1G (9,82 m / s2) ...... what your manufacturers meant there, I don’t know !!!
    ... you do not need to hang me, I repented, GURU !!!
    ... and also share, you were taught in the Soviet Army, where? .... where did you go out "with bare hands" and came equipped, if in the territory of the Soviet Union, then go up to a simple policeman and hit him on the head to pick up a pistol or a stun gun, then you don't need a lot of mind ... well, if you were trained like that on the territory of Afghanistan, during direct hostilities, then of course I take off my hat !!!
    ...... although I have not heard of such a practice. for some reason we always tried to put on shoes and provide the necessary equipment, and we also tried not to go out with spirits with our bare hands ...... probably because we were still shkolota and did not graduate from institutes ...... the children of us take .....
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 21 October 2013 16: 44
      +1
      YES IT IS DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO LEARN "ALEXEI")))
      Come on for the last time ....
      Physics class 7, 1G gravity acceleration - 9.8 meters per second
      You mean you fall into the abyss (I let you go)) but the safety rope did not cut (did not have time))) you fly 90 meters and stop abruptly after experiencing a 10G slowdown ////
      As you can see, everything is simple or didn’t you go to school ????

      Now, on the carrier frequency of the radio station (this is also simple)))))
      when you turn on some types of radio, the transmitter turns on for a split second (and not just the receiver, as some naive Humans think)
      in the diagram, the operation of the transmitter is controlled by a transistor with a pnp junction, at the moment on, current is applied to it and a short-term change in the state of the junction occurs (that is, the gate is open-closed))) the carrier frequency is emitted
      Most receivers do not see this ...
      The scanner senses the carrier and begins to tune in, another thing is that it does not have time, he would have some kind of special forces stub to press a call for a split second or attach a VOX headset that is triggered by the sound of a voice (hands free)) But this is enough for me and I know, that "terpily" is somewhere nearby)))
      Well, you’ll deal with the rest, homework for you)))))
      and remember the commandment of the special forcesDid not complete homework - get a bullet)))
      Conditionally consider you dead .........
      1. Rosomaha67
        Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 17: 16
        +1
        ...... yeah now I understand where it came from 10 F on the marking, just again I didn’t understand how it fits with 800 kg per gap, and I’m honestly not sure that 10 F will even grow to 90 meters in height, and even the tethered one will not save with such a jerk, when landing from the IL-76, the jerk goes about 3-4 F, and at the same time the tethered soul shakes out, I can imagine what will happen from the jerk of 10 F .....
        ...... everything is clear about the transmitter, now I heard the opinion of a specialist from the Institute of Communications, although I would still just put up the usual military outposts, well, maybe I would have put forward a secret on the way of the likely appearance of an enemy, especially in the mountains of such paths and a little ....... and then what was there in the radio, the signalman heard, or decide why there our "interceptor" began to re-tune to a new frequency, what did he have in his pnp transitions, he will not say about it ........
        .... about your homework, thanks, I'll be grateful that the teacher finally made my brain think at least a little, otherwise it's an "underdeveloped primacy", what can you take from me ....
        .... to be conditionally killed, for a wolverine, this is an almost successfully completed task, while the enemy considers you "conditionally killed" we will confuse the tracks, we will go around from the back, from the back ........
        ... but I don’t understand why I became "ALEXEY" or is it such a joke, I don’t know her ...
        1. bunta
          bunta 21 October 2013 19: 43
          +2
          Damn, men, stop already at the expense of the scanner. With the help of this scanner, you can do not such miracles, which you write about here. This is a really worthwhile thing and it should be in the army. And there must be specialists who know how to use it.
      2. Victor-M
        Victor-M 21 October 2013 20: 15
        +2
        Quote: Asgard
        Asgard

        It is very difficult to prove to people who are addicted to iPhones and tablets that it is possible, and sometimes sometimes just useful to do without them, but unfortunately the time is near when it will be scary to go pushing without a navigator, because of the fear of getting lost.
  • Massik
    Massik 21 October 2013 15: 45
    +2
    The guys in the photo are such specialists, but without gloves (this is ****), although ordinary workers, they could wear it))) Start a war, I will find myself an old Sturm-VV 18kg and I will wear it, but I will not take this ceramics "withstand 10-15 hits "giving the illusion of protection. The backpack in the photo is nothing, but somehow all the straps are hanging out and bristling, we will blame the user's inexperience ...
    1. Rosomaha67
      Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 16: 07
      +3
      ...... and we at one time were delighted with the BZHSN kit, and not very heavy and kept not bad for our class, easily took off and put on without problems, was comfortable to wear, so in our time there was a cool outfit ......
      1. Massik
        Massik 21 October 2013 16: 33
        +7
        So she is still good, it’s bad that now they rely more on equipment, and not on training a soldier, clothes themselves do not help much ...
        1. Rosomaha67
          Rosomaha67 21 October 2013 16: 41
          +3
          ... but here I completely agree, a man first of all, and all sorts of "cars" are just an addition, besides, the Russian soldier was always distinguished by his ingenuity, and where the enemy took the technique we took with our wits and wit !!!
    2. saygon66
      saygon66 21 October 2013 18: 23
      +1
      - At work I use the overcoated "Visit", 10 kg is much more convenient than the "Pendant", and even more the "Shilda" - this is completely called. But the "Challenge" turned out to be too heavy, and this armored socket is still ... so in the garage and lying around.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 October 2013 20: 30
        0
        Quote: saygon66
        At work I use the overcoat "Visit"

        How old is he? Do you wear it for gravity?
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 21 October 2013 21: 17
          +1
          -On the case there is a stamp of the 2000 of the year, an old man, but it’s definitely more convenient than what the office gives out, since they don’t shoot at us with SVD yet ... smile
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 21 October 2013 21: 21
            +1
            On fabric screens, a guarantee of no more than five years. For all Kevlar-like, this problem is a decrease in strength over time.
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 21 October 2013 21: 29
              0
              Twaron is up to 10 years old, at least that's what manufacturers say.
          2. Alex 241
            Alex 241 21 October 2013 21: 24
            0
            And the cover of what material?
            1. saygon66
              saygon66 21 October 2013 21: 27
              +1
              - The coloring was kind of called "nut" or "hazel", wait, I'll try to fill in the picture ...
              1. saygon66
                saygon66 21 October 2013 21: 43
                0
                - That's it ... A belt from MILTEC, but it's homemade ...
                1. saygon66
                  saygon66 21 October 2013 21: 46
                  +1
                  - This is if the cover fabric ... The life of the 5 package is years, the plates (!) Like 10- and the metal gets tired ...
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 21 October 2013 21: 51
                    0
                    You would update the old man, at least the cover.
                    1. saygon66
                      saygon66 21 October 2013 21: 58
                      0
                      - It was painfully cleverly sewn ... "Chest" and "back" are easy to replace, but the shoulder straps are tightly sewn into a fabric bag, and they are just the fastest to be overwritten, and there is another question, in which atelier it will be repaired ... all by myself ... only by myself ... smile
                  2. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 21 October 2013 21: 52
                    +1
                    On plates and ceramics not in the know. For fibers, it is iron 5 years.
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 21 October 2013 21: 53
                      +1
                      Ceramics also lose their properties over time, especially when subjected to stress.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 21 October 2013 21: 57
                        0
                        I know there are limitations too. I do not know specific numbers.
                      2. saygon66
                        saygon66 21 October 2013 22: 10
                        0
                        - There is GOST 50744-95, but there is nothing according to the shelf life ...
                      3. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 21 October 2013 22: 15
                        0
                        Everywhere it’s vague 5-10 years, you know, look on the Internet, I think you will find everything there for your bronik. There are even online stores. As for equipment, I can give a link to one good store, if you are interested.
                      4. saygon66
                        saygon66 21 October 2013 22: 27
                        +1
                        - And also, please, a reference to an interest-free loan, life is getting more expensive, you know ... (just kidding!) smile
                      5. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 21 October 2013 22: 28
                        0
                        As smart people say: here are the options laughing good
                      6. saygon66
                        saygon66 21 October 2013 22: 38
                        0
                        - No, in fact, everything is imported under the order ... people wear vests from the Bundeswehr, and British identity, you can also bring in a plate carrier, but ... they do not give armored elements to them, strategic materials like!
                      7. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 21 October 2013 22: 49
                        0
                        Well, here we are powerless.
                      8. saygon66
                        saygon66 21 October 2013 22: 52
                        +1
                        -Support! Patriotic! laughing
                      9. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 21 October 2013 22: 55
                        +1
                        As usual laughing drinks good ..............
                      10. Aleks tv
                        Aleks tv 21 October 2013 23: 17
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        Hold on! Patriotic!

                        Quote: Alex 241
                        As usual

                        Greetings, Konstantin.
                        Sanya - Hello!

                        Sorry to wedge myself.
                        And we also supported "domestic".
                        Specially traveled to the Institute of Metal Physics, UrAN.
                        It is located in Sverdlovsk (ECB), near the district autobahn.

                        It was quite legal and inexpensive to order normal bronics, for their sizes ... for their money, of course.
                        At that time it was the best broniki.
                        Once I didn’t shoot for almost three days in a row ... in the army this is impossible ...
                        If I find in the country, the same sfotat.
                        wink
                      11. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 21 October 2013 23: 29
                        +1
                        Hi Leshka, this is how we help Konstantin with the whole world laughing
                      12. saygon66
                        saygon66 21 October 2013 23: 33
                        +1
                        - I knew ... Thank you ... I'm touched ... (Sniffs and wipes a tear ...) smile
                      13. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 21 October 2013 23: 37
                        +1
                        ......................................
  • Kurkin
    Kurkin 21 October 2013 16: 02
    +1
    Related video. "Warrior" for a complete fighting compartment.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP_cYTeffVc&feature=share&list=FL93uzbFsTdMLUMU9g
    Rftesg
    1. I think so
      I think so 21 October 2013 17: 36
      +1
      Window dressing and nothing else ... during a serious conflict such as World War II, all this junk will not exist at all ... everything will be the same as in the Oestelnoye ... the bulletproof vest will appear at the maximum ... and return again to the footcloths ...
      1. Kurkin
        Kurkin 21 October 2013 17: 58
        +2
        It goes without saying. And it is for the audience, for us. That they say the people's money is spent on this. The imperious top does not give a shit about it, "Warrior" will be there or "Druzhinnik" is all the same. It would be a people's state, long ago everything would be in the troops.
  • Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 21 October 2013 16: 16
    +1
    We would also add a TV and Internet access to the "Warrior" equipment, there would be generally norms.
    1. Walker1975
      Walker1975 21 October 2013 16: 23
      +5
      Such silence over the singing of the battle - the opponents play Tanchiki :)
  • vietnam7
    vietnam7 21 October 2013 16: 55
    +3
    The overalls that provide protection against fragments of shells, mines and grenades should look like sappers probably when clearance is carried out. It’s interesting what kind of fabric this warrior goes, I hope not the Chinese rustle, which can be heard for a kilometer.
  • Lesnik
    Lesnik 21 October 2013 17: 24
    +3
    the adoption of the "Ratnik" is certainly very good, but as practice shows, the adoption and delivery of sufficient quantities to the troops is, as they say in Odessa, TWO BIG DIFFERENCES.
    It seems to me that for the exploitation of all those "bells and whistles" you need not only special education, but a certain technical culture, which the average conscript cannot boast of, and even IF he enters the troops, he will lie in the lockers and guns, and primarily because of its high cost. in the second place, due to the inability of l / s to apply it.
  • Kir
    Kir 21 October 2013 17: 53
    +1
    And I'm honestly interested in the fact that it’s a blunder or something they didn’t finish, a jumpsuit from Aramid, excuse me, but you won’t screw it up? or is it the same material reinforced by Aramid? And the main thing is that the shoe, and then the top is painted, but about the legs a little or nothing at all.
    I can't say anything bad about the 65G on knives, but forgive not the very thing, I generally keep quiet about the stainless steel, something our "friends" from the Master of Defense (MOD) company knocked around with steel 154cm, and it seems like then for MARK V ATAK decided to switch to D2 (either an analogue, or just our X12mph stashed)
    In general, I didn’t understand what the ultraviolet spectrum was about, the imager itself indicates Infrokrasny.
  • Admiral 013
    Admiral 013 21 October 2013 18: 22
    +1
    I really hope that this will not be another money laundering.
  • Technologist
    Technologist 21 October 2013 18: 39
    +1
    Something is doubtful the service life, well, the equipment is understandable, but the form is for two hosts? Not sure.
  • iConst
    iConst 21 October 2013 19: 31
    0
    I do not believe!!! (with)
  • corn
    corn 21 October 2013 20: 47
    +1
    "Its breathable structure allows for continuous wear of the equipment for at least 48 hours. The fabric of the suit is impregnated with a special compound that allows air to pass through well, while retaining moisture."
    Another blooper article, because if the fabric retains moisture, I would like to see someone who can just stay in the OZK for 48 hours, even without a gas mask.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 21 October 2013 20: 51
      +2
      Maybe they meant moisture outside? Although it really is a mistake.
      1. Massik
        Massik 22 October 2013 00: 52
        +1
        As before, a set of HB flora was developed without taking into account such specific factors, but it was enough for more)
  • Alexander Kirov
    Alexander Kirov 21 October 2013 20: 57
    +1
    I want pants with heating on the fur from Yudashkin. A felt boots must be left, be sure!
  • artgrad
    artgrad 22 October 2013 01: 06
    +3
    Everything is great, but the helmet is idiotic. Change the helmet! Here is the Russian helmet! Stamp IT with a modern, advanced helmet shape, flood the world markets with quality, not expensive Russian helmets, drive a new fashion outfit. It’s time for the world to see anti-American helmets!
    1. Kir
      Kir 22 October 2013 02: 39
      +2
      I agree to all 100, only reformulated a few
      To show the World samples of new, high-quality and reasonably priced outfit created entirely from domestic ones of its own development of materials, and that is important in its domestic equipment fleet !!!
    2. Kurkin
      Kurkin 22 October 2013 08: 45
      +1
      It is a helmet like "Bulat" called, a good helmet, but only for special operations, because its weight is about 6 kg. You can, of course, make a lightweight version for the army, without metal. But I also like our helmets better.
    3. kplayer
      kplayer 11 January 2014 15: 19
      0
      "It's high time for the world to see anti American helmets!" - nonsense and pig rut! if about the shape of the helmet, then the British (GS Mk4) have already had this for a long time, my friend should be tied up with infantilism and riot police, here about the army, if you haven't noticed, and not about short-term assault operations in "deaf" helmets (on the ground there is nothing crunch, you won't hear the birds).
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  • Rinat 1
    Rinat 1 22 October 2013 08: 04
    0
    The main thing is that this form would enter the army as soon as possible, and would not remain on paper
  • Rosomaha67
    Rosomaha67 22 October 2013 15: 49
    +1
    Quote: Marssik
    At night, when you are sitting in a freshly dug trench, one is sleeping, and two are on a chip, so the sleeping bag is even 1 on 3, if you have an idea about the military work of the HPSG, you should know.


    ...... you mean on the military, I didn’t understand a bit, but we had the same story, I think you generally didn’t have enough sleeping bags .... excuse me for the lack of understanding ..... recourse
    1. Massik
      Massik 22 October 2013 16: 31
      0
      Well, we seem to be only discussing "combat" drinks and in LDPE everyone has their own good tash.Asgard, by the way, refrained from commenting, I would like to know his exotic opinion, since he smells more of military special forces than "vovans"