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Lukashenko: Freedom is a calm and quiet life and order in society

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Lukashenko: Freedom is a calm and quiet life and order in society



“The main value of sovereignty - an independent state gives us freedom,” said Alexander Lukashenko at a meeting with students of Mogilev State University on October 17. A fragment of the speech of the head of state was shown on the ONT channel.

“Sovereignty gives us the freedom to live in our own land, to choose our own way, to manage our present, to build our future,” Lukashenka said. “But everyone understands freedom differently. Many people understand freedom this way - I went outside, I want I turn back. But your freedom ends where the interests of others begin. "

“You shouldn’t understand freedom, as we are from there (from the West - BelaPAN.) Are presented and dictated. They don’t do it themselves,” the Belarusian leader said.

According to Lukashenko, freedom is “not chaos, it is a calm and quiet life and order in society”. “I would like freedom to be considered at this level, and not that they do not allow me to say something. Yes, say what you want. But learn to listen to others, to assimilate their experience, especially the older generation,” he stressed.

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  1. alexng
    alexng 18 October 2013 08: 04
    21
    The only truly honest and independent media in the world is the DVR
    1. kris
      kris 18 October 2013 09: 36
      +9
      Belarusians!
      Let's exchange presidents.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 11: 05
        +3
        Quote: kris
        Belarusians!
        Let's exchange presidents.

        I agree. But I’m afraid our ... didn’t give up. Who will take a goat to the garden? laughing
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 18 October 2013 23: 28
        +1
        Quote: kris
        Belarusians!
        Let's exchange presidents.


        It seems for a long time they did not keep a 200000 bill in their pocket .... wassat
    2. Airman
      Airman 18 October 2013 09: 55
      +3
      FREEDOM IS A CONSCIOUS NEED. There is an opportunity to bang your head against the wall, but there is no desire. There is a desire to drink vodka, but there is no possibility (of money).
    3. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 18 October 2013 16: 52
      0
      Quote: alexneg
      The only truly honest and independent media in the world is the DVR
    4. smersh70
      smersh70 18 October 2013 23: 27
      +1
      Quote: alexneg
      The only truly honest and independent media in the world is the DVR

      laughing laughing good drinks super!!!!!!!!!!
  2. T-100
    T-100 18 October 2013 08: 04
    15
    Correctly Old Man says))))
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 18 October 2013 08: 24
      -3
      Not really. Freedom is still a little different. Old Man led the definition of FREEDOM UNDER SOCIALISM.
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 18 October 2013 09: 46
        0
        Well, it starts. One ram minusonul is unclear why. And the other rams also never decided to support him!
        Comrades minus members! If you are minus, then at least argue.
        1. kris
          kris 18 October 2013 10: 05
          +2
          Quote: Kibalchish
          Comrades minus members! If you are minus, then at least argue.

          Do you really need the opinions of these minus miners?
          Just ask the members of the forum and they will give you plus points and you will become a general, if this is so important to you!
          Catch "++++" and rejoice.
        2. Jogan-xnumx
          Jogan-xnumx 18 October 2013 10: 57
          +6
          Well, it starts. One ram minusonul is unclear why. And the other rams also never decided to support him!
          Comrades minus members! If you are minus, then at least argue.

          At first I just wanted to give you a minus. For as one ram explained its position, so the other rams took it. Then he changed his mind about minus. For the first ram from the rest of the rams required arguments. As a potential candidate for sheep (I wanted to put a minus) I will try to present my arguments to the sheep producer.
          So, on the comment of the T-100:
          Right Old Man says

          You answered:
          Not really. Freedom is still a little different. Old Man led the definition of FREEDOM UNDER SOCIALISM.

          Do you continue to believe that you have set forth your arguments in a voluminous and comprehensive manner?
          What do you mean "not quite"?
          Doesn’t quite correctly speak, or, as follows from the next part of your phrase, the not quite right freedom that Old Man speaks of?
          Freedom, in your opinion, is a little different. What exactly is different? What do you, for example, mean by the word "freedom"? What are your arguments for this?
          Further, Old Man, again in your opinion, defined the concept of freedom under socialism. Give the concept of freedom under capitalism, feudalism, etc. I assure you that for each period and social hierarchy they are very different. What is the concept of freedom, in your opinion, in relation to today's Belarus, if Old Man is wrong? And what is the system in Belarus in general?
          These are your arguments. At least mine. In the complete absence of yours. What guided minusculers, I do not know, but before you call the other sheep, maybe you should look at yourself first?
          "Let the one who is sinless himself throw the first stone ..." My respect! hi
      2. Gari
        Gari 18 October 2013 10: 18
        +9
        Quote: Kibalchish
        definition of FREEDOM UNDER SOCIALISM.

        I.V. Stalin on the rights and liberty of the individual in one of the interviews given by him spoke as follows:

        “It’s hard for me to imagine what“ personal freedom ”can be for an unemployed person who goes hungry and does not find the use of his labor. True freedom exists only where exploitation is destroyed, where there is no oppression of some people by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a person does not tremble that tomorrow he may lose his job, home, bread. Only in such a society is real, not paper, personal and any other freedom possible ”

        (from a conversation with the chairman of the newspaper association Roy Howard March 1, 1936).
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 18 October 2013 11: 22
          +2
          Quote: Gari
          I.V. Stalin on the rights and liberty of the individual in one of the interviews given by him spoke as follows:


          Ah yes well done, dear Gari! Cool washed!
          1. Gari
            Gari 18 October 2013 15: 16
            +3
            Quote: Hudo
            Ah yes well done, dear Gari! Cool washed!

            This is not me, this is Comrade Stalin, but I and not only I think, I am convinced of this, remember how we, our parents lived under the USSR, under socialism and compare now, it seems like the Union was closed from the outside world, but is it really bad that happening in geyvrop, wars in Asia and so on, it’s better to close again in the Eurasian Union, but then they traveled all over the Union without any problems, and most importantly, they could allow someone who was on business, and who were on vacation, at sea or in the mountains, everyone was they were provided with work, WORK, they had bosses over their heads, yes, but the trade unions were also responsible for them, the Central Committee, etc., and now chief HOZYAIN, wants to give a salary at the wrong time, or maybe he will, or maybe he’ll fire, where are you going to complain?
            Who paid for utilities, a penny.
            Who looked at what nationality are you -the main thing was the Man!

            Wasn't that all true freedom?
    2. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 18 October 2013 08: 25
      +7
      In our State Duma this is definitely not there, the language will not turn to say that. All are busy with their own business, someone is stealing, who is only learning this.
  3. Boldyrev
    Boldyrev 18 October 2013 08: 08
    +1
    Something lately he has been actively advertised
    1. Very old
      Very old 18 October 2013 08: 18
      +9
      He is not a lollipop. He does not need advertising. BRAVO, Old Man!
    2. Apollo
      18 October 2013 08: 19
      14
      Quote: Boldyrev
      Something lately he has been actively advertised


      Lukashenko does not need advertising, his deeds and actions speak a lot, only about the positiveness and care of his own people. Others, for example.

      now on topic
      quote-According to Lukashenka, freedom is "not lawlessness, it is a calm and quiet life and order in society." "I would like to see freedom at this level, and not in the fact that they are not allowed to say something. Say what you want. But learn to listen to others, to assimilate their experience, especially the older generation," he stressed.

      Again to the point.
      Here is another statement
      Lukashenko: "The USA created bandits who did not want to know anything but their wallet"
      In the United States, about 50 million people "die under the fence" without medical assistance, while in post-Soviet Belarus such a monstrous social injustice is unthinkable. This was announced on October 17 by Alexander Lukashenko to students of the Mogilev State University named after I. Arkady Kuleshova, a REGNUM correspondent reports.

      "This country is probably a little over three hundred years old - America. Well, what kind of nation it is - you all know how it was formed - too," Lukashenko said, addressing the students of the Mogilev university.

      http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1721256.html

      Belarus is one of the islands of the former USSR.
      1. Very old
        Very old 18 October 2013 08: 23
        +7
        I argued with APOLLON yesterday, now I agree and support. In one word, they expressed one thought
      2. military
        military 18 October 2013 11: 13
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        Belarus is one of the islands of the former USSR.

        this is the last islet ... hi
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 18 October 2013 11: 25
          +2
          Quote: military
          Quote: Apollon
          Belarus is one of the islands of the former USSR.

          this is the last islet ... hi


          Most likely not an island, but a bastion. Is it not from this bastion that we pushed ourselves off that we will move just as in 1941 from Moscow and in 1942-43 from Stalingrad to deserve to be deserved to any adversaries?
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 18 October 2013 23: 33
          0
          Quote: military
          this is the last islet.

          and you better ask the islanders at their leisure .... why are they so bad on this paradise island .... smile
      3. smersh70
        smersh70 18 October 2013 23: 32
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        Belarus is one of the islands of the former USSR.

        something and this is so)) made sure in June, when I went to the store for cigarettes as much as 2 km laughing because small stalls do not exist there .. because of huge taxes .....
  4. smel
    smel 18 October 2013 08: 10
    +5
    Many of the thoughts of this greatest patriot of his country and the most honest leader could have been accepted by us. We also speak correctly, but we don’t always fulfill our promises and are not always guided by our own thoughts in practice. Yes, and listen to Dimon and take doubts for a brighter future. And his environment ... One Dvorkovich is worth it !!!
    1. SolomonSS
      SolomonSS 18 October 2013 08: 27
      +1
      We like, what is being said and what is being done is contrary to one another.
    2. Very old
      Very old 18 October 2013 12: 50
      0
      smel:
      One Dvorkovich what it costs !!! [/ quote]
      They know the price, I won’t voice it: it will be sued in a court that we won’t win
  5. 6 sunrise 9
    6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 08: 11
    -4
    I put the minus.

    The main value of sovereignty - an independent state gives us freedom Freedom and independence from ourselves wassat

    Sovereignty gives us freedom to live on our land Lukashenko, sovereignty gives you absolute power in Belarus. AND our land was in the early 90s. divided into "stubs". One of which you rule.
    Google, in Belarus there are many people who are aimed at integration (the real one, and not the one under Lukashenko) with the Russian Federation, but Lukashenko is much more to them cruelthan to any pro-Western appearances.
    http://www.km.ru/news/lukashenko_sterpit_lyubuyu_oppoz
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 18 October 2013 08: 27
      10
      And what do Belarusians need such chaos that is happening in Russia? They want an AVALANCHE of "guests" with an ax in their bosom? They need EGЕ? And what else do they want from real integration? Do not think that I am against the TRUE UNION of 4 states, I am “FOR” with both hands, but for now there will be destroy Russia, Belarus is unlikely to want to go with it "this way".
      1. 6 sunrise 9
        6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 08: 43
        0
        what In Belarus there is an EGE, and in Kazakhstan, it is also a name that is simply different.

        And about the lawlessness, come to Minsk and tell an anecdote about Lukashenko and you will go on a free tour to the Belarusian monkey for 24 hours. Or try to rally for a new union (4 states) ... for that you can be banged at all, well, in the best case, put you in prison. Look at my link.
        1. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 18 October 2013 09: 14
          +4
          Yes, I prefer to sit for 24 hours, for my stupidity, when you know that NIZZZZYAYAAYA ... than some ITS will poke me ... foreign for no reason, no reason!
          1. 6 sunrise 9
            6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 10: 16
            -1
            and there’s nothing to answer you, well, goodbye.


            Here is what could be done, I understand that the power in the Russian Federation is such that right now it is impossible to unite into a single state. Integration in Belarus may be
            a) Economic, the creation of a common currency, the abolition of duties for goods of the Russian Federation (Belarus) and Belarus (RF) is shorter than the completely domestic market. Selling resources of Belarus at domestic prices of the Russian Federation.
            b) Migration, so that a person from Moscow or Smolensk can come to Minsk and live there as much as he likes, the introduction of a single passport. And yes, to begin with, the Russian Federation itself must close the borders with Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan
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            2. smersh70
              smersh70 18 October 2013 23: 36
              +1
              Quote: 6Sunrise9
              a) Economic, the creation of a common currency, the abolition of duties for goods of the Russian Federation (Belarus) and Belarus (RF) is shorter than the completely domestic market. Selling resources of Belarus at domestic prices of the Russian Federation.


              and then they locked in a brother Slav for 400 million dollars recently wassat and still gave only 3 days to pay .... by the way Lukashenko helped pay for 2 days unloved YOU a Muslim named Aliyev laughing
        2. Cartoon
          Cartoon 18 October 2013 14: 27
          +2
          I just picked up and told everyone around me a funny joke about Lukashenko. Something I don’t see, what would the guys in uniform have left for me :)
      2. military
        military 18 October 2013 11: 42
        +2
        Quote: ia-ai00
        And what Belarusians need such a chaos that is happening in Russia?

        no, not needed ... No. poorly imagine the Old Man's symbiosis with the Russian edrosnoy ...
        and, by the way, I’m sure that no matter what we sang in our ears, the Russian authorities and even today do not need such a full-fledged alliance ... within a state with a single economic space and, mind you, with elected public authorities ... with its own extremely unstable domestic rating ...
        from here the process has a sluggish character ... and the boltology of the Russian political elite about a single union state is cyclical ...
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 18 October 2013 10: 26
      +4
      Quote: 6Sunrise9
      Freedom and independence from ourselves

      What kind of freedom do you need? And who do you represent in Lukashenka's place? Is there someone who would suggest a "high goal" and lead the people?
      1. 6 sunrise 9
        6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 10: 35
        +2
        do not worry, the next president of Belarus will be the grandson of Lukashenko.
        And since he took power in his hands, he has been trying his best to ensure that there is no pro-Russian opposition, so you will not see anyone "more pro-Russian" than he is in Belarus.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 11: 12
          +2
          Quote: 6Sunrise9
          do not worry, the next president of Belarus will be the grandson of Lukashenko.

          Would you prefer to see Medvedev in his place? Autocracy is not the worst form of government, especially when such a KING.
          1. 6 sunrise 9
            6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 11: 14
            -1
            suitcase-station-Minsk ... let's see if you want to live with such a king.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 11: 27
              +2
              Quote: 6Sunrise9
              suitcase-station-Minsk ... let's see if you want to live with such a king.

              Wrong position. I’m not a rat to escape from a sinking ship, here is my Motherland. And what exactly do you dislike about Lukashenko’s actions?
              1. 6 sunrise 9
                6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 11: 41
                +3
                - made Belarusians a separate nationality.
                - the war of 1812. already counted domestic.
                - forgot all his campaign promises (although this applies to almost any politician)
                - does everything so that there is no pro-Russian party in Belarus.
                - he remembers integration only when the elections are on the way, he is already sick of his "Belarus is a friend of the Russian Federation", "I am for friendship", "I am the guarantor of friendship" and others.
                - Against the background of friendly rhetoric, creeping nationalization of the population is being carried out and this will lead to the fact that in 20 years Belarus will become the same "ally" to us as Ukraine is now.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 12: 17
                  +3
                  Quote: 6Sunrise9
                  does everything so that there is no pro-Russian party in Belarus.

                  Do you need our parties? Take to re-education.
                  Quote: 6Sunrise9
                  Amid friendly rhetoric, a creeping population is being nationalized.

                  And even rhetoric is not friendly with us. And nationalization comes with a Caucasian accent.
                  And about friendship ...
                  Anecdote - A crest with a Jew found a pot of gold. The Jew says, Let's share it honestly. The crest responds - No, let's better equally. So here, Old Man wants equally, but our government circles want to be "honest". So he just has to talk about friendship.
            2. Hudo
              Hudo 18 October 2013 11: 29
              +2
              Quote: 6Sunrise9
              suitcase-station-Minsk ... let's see if you want to live with such a king.


              What is the question? For those who, as extras on paid mutations, are not confused, who don’t look into the mouth of the American Ambassador, they have nothing to shake.
        2. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 18 October 2013 18: 03
          +1
          Quote: 6Sunrise9
          the next president of Belarus will be the grandson of Lukashenko

          But what about Kolya? He is already a marshal!
          1. 6 sunrise 9
            6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 19: 18
            +1
            So I kind of talked about him) Or is this not a grandson? what
            1. Anatole Klim
              Anatole Klim 18 October 2013 20: 55
              +2
              Nikolai Lukashenko was born in 2004, out of wedlock, and it is not known exactly who his mother is. In an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda, Alexander Lukashenko refused to give the name of Nikolai’s mother, but said that she works as a doctor. According to the main version, held in the media, Nikolay’s mother is Irina Abelskaya, a former head physician at the hospital of the Presidential Administration of Belarus, who was the personal physician of Alexander Lukashenko.
              Russian President Medvedev gave Kolya a golden gun.
              During the flight, Kolya bit his hand to the stewardess, who did not let him close the door of the plane, and then shouted “When I become a minister, I will shoot you!”
              More details: http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/
              1. 6 sunrise 9
                6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 23: 20
                +1
                This is a scribe ... belay

                How much I don’t know ... what
  6. saag
    saag 18 October 2013 08: 11
    -9
    "... calm and quiet life and order in society"
    fi, this is philistinism, for society it is much more useful for creative work in the name of a great goal, there is no goal, tasks are not set on the way to achieving the goal, science does not develop, industry stands in one place or people follow you, dad, you think as the collective farm chairman
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 18 October 2013 11: 13
      +1
      And a society without fear of people for their lives, without fear of being left without means of subsistence, for the future of their children, without fear of being left without a roof over their heads, without medical care at the right time, to be sure that if there is a desire and talent, you will receive an education, and worthy - THIS is not - a GREAT PURPOSE? Something you, my friend, CARRIED OUT. You probably like such events as in Biryulyovo, to observe the "boiling" of all sorts of swamp and to be all the time on the "edge of a knife"? You have no adrenaline to throw out?
  7. treskoed
    treskoed 18 October 2013 08: 14
    +9
    Well done, Lukashenko! The true owner of the land of Belarus !!!!
    1. Gari
      Gari 18 October 2013 11: 20
      +4
      Quote: treskoed
      Well done, Lukashenko! The true owner of the land of Belarus !!!!

      After gaining independence, Belarus did not carry out large-scale privatization of large industrial enterprises!
      When they were corporatized, the shares remained largely state-owned. State-owned enterprises continue to play a dominant role - they account for at least 75% of GDP. The structure of industrial production was largely preserved.
      Old Man is the Boss.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 18 October 2013 23: 39
        +1
        Quote: Gari
        and they account for at least 75% of GDP. The structure of industrial production was largely preserved.


        as a result of which all warehouses are clogged with manufactured goods and inflation goes off scale ..... money just became candy wrappers
  8. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 18 October 2013 08: 16
    11
    Say what you want. But learn to listen to others, to assimilate their experience, especially the older generation, "he stressed.
    I completely agree with LUKASHENKO.
    It would be useful for some people and governments hehe EXCLUSIVE COUNTRIES to adopt these rules.


    Otherwise, conflict is inevitable.
  9. Goodmen
    Goodmen 18 October 2013 08: 38
    +4
    Smart guy! And Belarus does not allow "liberalization" ... Yes, there are also problems there, but the political vector is aimed at development and protection from "democratic values"! This can be seen clearly.
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 October 2013 08: 44
    +5
    According to Lukashenko, freedom is “not chaos, it is a calm and quiet life and order in society”. “I would like freedom to be considered at this level, and not that they do not allow me to say something. Yes, say what you want. But learn to listen to others, to assimilate their experience, especially the older generation,” he stressed.

    Statements dad, as a wise politician, intelligible to the common people. This is what the president takes. Well done!
  11. Boris55
    Boris55 18 October 2013 08: 46
    +1
    J. Bichevskaya Liberty:

  12. Dimkapvo
    Dimkapvo 18 October 2013 08: 58
    +8
    I respect Lukashenko. It seems to me that Belarus was lucky with the president, not sinless of course, but against the background of the rest it looks very worthy. I think Belarus would have had oil - they would have become cooler than the Emirates.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 18 October 2013 11: 05
      +1
      Quote: DimkaPVO
      I think Belarus would have had oil - they would have become cooler than the Emirates.

      And in my opinion this is just a plus that there is no oil - otherwise they were either the first to be "liberalized", or all power to the magnates.
  13. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 18 October 2013 09: 06
    +1
    According to Lukashenka, freedom is "not lawlessness

    President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko instructed to develop a decree that would directly prohibit dismissal for employees of wood-processing enterprises under modernization. The corresponding order was given by the head of state during a visit to Borisovdrev.
    At the same time, the president instructed to provide for serious sanctions in the decree against those who nevertheless dare to quit their jobs. They will have to be attracted to forced labor at the same enterprise. "For violation - to forced labor. Worker, specialist and head. The Ministry of Internal Affairs to bring," - ordered the president. "To categorically prohibit any dismissals from tomorrow, December 1," Alexander Lukashenko demanded. True, one small loophole in the decree should remain. The President also instructed to envisage in the decree the possibility of employees submitting complaints, which the governor of a particular region will be authorized to consider. “Because there are different cases. The governor makes the final decision.“ I quit to forced labor, and work here, ”Lukashenka emphasized once again. Moreover, these norms will apply not only to employees of enterprises where reconstruction is underway, but also to builders who are carrying out this reconstruction. www.newsfiber.com/p/s/h?v=E5V0nZ8zKbDQ%3D+FC9keTmUMyE%3D
  14. saag
    saag 18 October 2013 09: 21
    -4
    Something minusers have intensified, gentlemen, before engaging in approval and singing hosanna Lukashenko, think about what kind of system is in Belarus, what is its economy based on and what are the guidelines for the development of society?
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 18 October 2013 10: 27
      +7
      1. A mixture of constitutional manarchy with dictatorship.
      2. At several metallurgical and chemical enterprises + agricultural sector.
      3. On the survival of a nation surrounded by a "liberal-democratic paradise" and taking into account the globalization of the world economy.

      Well, what's so "TERRIBLE"? !!!
      It relies only on the country's internal, poor resources. Repels attacks from all sorts of freaks of incomprehensible color. He tries to prevent the withdrawal of assets from a small number of industrial enterprises abroad. Pursues sound national policies. He fights against organized crime groups at all levels. Tries to maintain a socially-oriented budget with available means. Strengthens the army, as understands what is in the ring of enemies. He fights with imaginary liberal values ​​(homosexuals do not walk in the streets and swooping about the division of Belarus in the media do not hold discussions).

      What is wrong? !!!!
      although the liberal-homosexual community with a flutterous tide does not agree ... of course - he wets them !!!))))
      We would have such a ...
  15. shurup
    shurup 18 October 2013 09: 22
    +8
    Unpaid fare are completely free to walk.
    The registered hares are free to choose one of the same brooms, with which they will sweep the sidewalks under the supervision of the elders until they pay the fine.
    To rob dililizy like bandits in America, and then go to deputies and ride for free, then this is not Russia.
    For vehicles to move, everyone must pedal. Who does not twist, or even tries to twist in the other direction - well, you understand me.
    As long as I am a bus driver, however much I would like some Western guardians of freedom, I will not give up the steering wheel in the wrong hands.
  16. AlexCPP
    AlexCPP 18 October 2013 09: 25
    0
    Quote: Apollon
    Quote: Boldyrev
    Something lately he has been actively advertised

    Lukashenko does not need advertising, his deeds and actions speak a lot, only about the positiveness and care of his own people. Others, for example.

    Hyperinflation is especially good at "The Great Old Man". On the example of 2011, but he didn't say anything special. The usual political populism. As elsewhere and always.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 18 October 2013 10: 30
      +3
      Quote: AlexCPP
      Hyperinflation is especially good at "The Great Old Man". On the example of 2011, but he didn't say anything special. The usual political populism. As elsewhere and always.

      A person does what he can in modern conditions. And in many ways people live better in Belarus than in Ukraine. Here, too, many “envy Lukashenka”. In any case, the Nazis there with torchlight processions do not walk around the capital. AND THANKS TO HIM FOR THIS !!!!
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 11: 19
      -2
      Quote: AlexCPP
      Hyperinflation is especially good for "The Great Father"

      Well, this is not without the help of some of our rulers and oligarchs. In conditions of severe blockade from the west. But Old Man is still well done, well.
  17. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 18 October 2013 09: 28
    +5
    I understand freedom a little differently:
    - My father, working in an organization called DSU-2 (road construction department), disagreed with the director (quite strongly, in public with all the consequences). It was a year of business in 1984-85. Then, with a transfer (the owner was practically the same everywhere - the state), he went to work in a similar organization (normal specialists were then in demand, and therefore the Union had a shortage of labor and engineering annually) called DRSU (road repair and construction management). He got an apartment while working in the children's preschool institution, but when transferring to the preschool administration, he was not afraid to leave his family (we had three children) without housing and livelihoods.
    - and now I cannot do something like that. The management of the company (the top of Moscow) does not consider us for people, greets us every other time, the attitude is like a guest worker (principle - "we have benefited you by giving you a job and paying a huge (since their opinion) salary on time. You don’t like something, leave there is a queue in your place). Sometimes I can’t stand it, but I can’t do anything (I don’t send it anywhere) - mortgage, credit and life from salary to salary.
    Therefore, I think my father, living in the Union, was free, and not we with a series of meaningless elections with the appearance of freedom.
    1. military
      military 18 October 2013 12: 22
      +2
      Quote: velikoros-xnumx
      Therefore, I think my father, living in the Union, was free ...

      good + + +
      Quote: velikoros-xnumx
      not us with a series of meaningless choices with the appearance of freedom.

      "slaves of freedom" ...
  18. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 18 October 2013 09: 42
    +3
    Lukashenko: Freedom is a calm and quiet life and order in society
    - Lukashenko, as always, is right. I think Russia needs a president like Lukashenko, and better Lukashenko himself.
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 18 October 2013 11: 07
      +3
      Keep!
      Maybe he doesn’t succeed, after all, only the lazy did not shove his sticks into the wheels, and there are no such resources as in the Russian Federation ... But he is not a Judas !!!
    2. max702
      max702 18 October 2013 12: 26
      +3
      I support !!! Who if not him ... There are no such people, and there is no time to wait when they appear ..
  19. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 18 October 2013 11: 24
    +2
    Those who blather against the Old Man are those who, by freedom, mean lawlessness, fighting and looting. Come to us in Ukraine - you will taste "freedom" in all its glory. I guarantee, then you will kiss Old Man in the ass and throw yourself on the monument to him.lol Everything is relative.
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 18 October 2013 11: 44
      +2
      We in the Russian Federation are not bad "freedom" slurp)))))
      Test photo)))))
      1. Jogan-xnumx
        Jogan-xnumx 18 October 2013 18: 58
        +2
        We in the Russian Federation are not bad "freedom" slurp

        Yes, but at least they will not Ukrainize you ... what
  20. vanya
    vanya 18 October 2013 12: 18
    0
    He knows how to scream and make everyone except himself extreme, and so the economy is covered, the warehouses are clogged with products that nobody needs, the enterprises stop, the salaries are low, the huge negative foreign trade balance, corruption, the lack of any prospects and the crowds of Asians who have recently begun fill the country.
    And yes, we do not have a normal leader who could rule the country; when they appear, they immediately miss.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 18 October 2013 12: 31
      +2
      Quote: vanya
      And yes, we don’t have a normal leader who could rule the country


      From Donbass. Just like in the fairy tale "About the Fisherman and the Fish", you will stay at a broken trough. Do not anger God, otherwise ask that your country will be steered by nits like the Beeloss Golodomorovich Yushchenko or the thief-evjointegrator Yabukevich, then you will find out how much a pound of raisins is on the London Stock Exchange.
    2. military
      military 18 October 2013 12: 38
      +1
      Quote: vanya
      Po yell and make everyone except yourself extreme he knows how, and so the economy is covered, warehouses are clogged with products that no one needs, enterprises stop, low salaries, a huge negative trade balance, corruptionlack of any perspectives and crowds of asians who recently began to fill the country. And yes we do not have a normal leaderwho could rule the country; when they appear, they immediately miss.

      mirror of modern Russia ... request Chess word, I already wept ... repeat
  21. facktor
    facktor 18 October 2013 12: 58
    +1
    In Belarus, there are THREE security services repeating the experience of Hitler's Germany: the KGB - the Gestapo (GecheimStaatsPolition), the Presidential Security Service (not to be confused with the security service) - SD (SicherheitDienst) and the IAC - the information and analytical center under the president - SA (SicherheitAllgemeine). All are directly subordinate to the president. The President appoints ALL judges, up to district judges, all prosecutors, etc. Not less than 12 percent of Belarusian GDP - subsidies to Russia in oil and gas prices. As Eeyore said - "A sad sight".
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 18 October 2013 13: 05
      0
      Quote: facktor
      In Belarus THREE security services repeating the experience of Nazi Germany


      So what? Let them organize a fourth if necessary - in order to accustom every liberalistic sucks to creative work with a kyle and a saw in their hands, and not to sell their homeland for Amer’s jam and cookies.
      Quote: facktor
      . The President appoints ALL judges, up to district, all prosecutors, etc.

      But do they need to be appointed in the State Department?

      Quote: facktor
      As Eeyore said - "A sad sight".


      You were discharged early from the mental hospital.
  22. AlexCPP
    AlexCPP 18 October 2013 12: 58
    0
    Quote: Egoza

    A person does what he can in modern conditions. And in many ways people live better in Belarus than in Ukraine. Here, too, many “envy Lukashenka”. In any case, the Nazis there with torchlight processions do not walk around the capital. AND THANKS TO HIM FOR THIS !!!!

    Thanks for what specifically. Are you a citizen of Belarus?
  23. facktor
    facktor 18 October 2013 13: 19
    +2
    If the principle of separation of powers has been blatantly violated, if the entire state machine of Belarus has been sharpened to maintain one person’s power for 18 years, if the president’s fund has been spending the country’s money absolutely irresponsibly, there is no way to control it, since Lukashenka personally has all the control functions if hyperinflation is in the country , then what joyful life in Belarus are those trying to tell here who did not live there?
  24. AlexCPP
    AlexCPP 18 October 2013 13: 20
    0
    Quote: Jogan-64
    Those who blather against the Old Man are those who, by freedom, mean lawlessness, fighting and looting. Come to us in Ukraine - you will taste "freedom" in all its glory. I guarantee, then you will kiss Old Man in the ass and throw yourself on the monument to him.lol Everything is relative.

    Over this photo who just did not scoff. Even the joke went "All roads in Belarus are at an angle." So photoshop and no fraud.
  25. facktor
    facktor 18 October 2013 13: 25
    0
    When a country has brazenly violated the principle of separation of powers, when all GOSUDPRSTVENNAYA MACHINE 18 years sharpened at preserving the power of one man, when the presidential fund to collect and spend public money without accountability, and the possibility kontorol BE CAN NOT BECAUSE ALL MONITORING FUNCTIONS Lukashenka, about what JOY OF BELARUSIANS TRY TO TELL THOSE WHO DOESN'T LIVE THERE?
  26. altgr
    altgr 20 October 2013 13: 58
    0
    For me personally, it is completely indifferent to how he came to power, and how he holds it. The main result. And the result is that I can calmly walk the darkness along the street without looking back, let the child go to the yard to play, very few people from the Caucasus with all the consequences ... I worked before through Gazprom, traveled around Russia and I know the situation not by hearsay. Are all Russians happy with the democratically elected President Medvedev?
    About political jokes - nonsense. If your hands grow from the right place, you will build an apartment, which is now being massively built, provide a family, etc.
    I sincerely hope that in Russia it will improve over time, because acquaintances from Ukraine are already just a pity ...