Cossacks are coming ...

One of the most controversial, let's say, socio-political phenomena of modern Russia, is the Cossacks. It is, it tries by all means to declare itself, but at the same time, the Cossacks' activity, in fact, has not been let down a full-fledged legal basis, the essence of the movement has not been determined.

If you believe recently published statistics, in our country there are at least 7 million people who consider themselves representatives of the Cossacks. 7 million is about 5% of the total population of the country. At the same time, a significant percentage of all other Russian citizens belong to the activities of the Cossacks, to put it mildly, with confusion. Use of uniform, epaulet, rewards, weapons people who in Soviet times could hold high posts in district committees and regional committees, and today cheerfully shouting “Lubo!” in Cossack circles, suggest a lack of cossacks at the thought of the “political credo” of the representatives of the modern Cossacks, and make many of the mentioned seven million have real Cossack roots, and are not, as they say "mummers".

Ambiguous interpretations are also caused by the political work that is being conducted today by Cossack associations, many of which, it should be noted, are also in sharp conflict with each other.

Against the background of this ambiguity, state work is carried out (within the Council on Cossack Affairs under the President), aimed at determining who exactly has the right to declare himself a Cossack, and what responsibilities Cossack associations can perform if they suddenly want to directly serve to the state.

Recently, the aforementioned Council on Cossack Affairs (KFOR) under the President of Russia approved a set of measures within the framework of the development strategy of the Russian Cossacks up to 2020. More specifically, the first stage of this strategy has been approved, which should be implemented in 2014-2015. This was stated by the head of KFOR, Alexander Beglov, who, let's say, at the same time holds the post of plenipotentiary representative of the president of the country in the Central Federal District. The strategy itself was approved last year by Vladimir Putin. The main goal of the strategy is to consolidate the Russian Cossacks, as well as to strengthen the role of the Cossacks in solving municipal and state tasks. The state bodies decided that it would be possible to finance the Cossack service if it would be of benefit to the state. At the same time, financing will affect only those Cossacks, which are called register-listed - listed in a special register performing certain tasks in the civil service. Those, as it turned out, are also quite a few - about 750 thousand people.

Representatives of the Council for the Cossacks claim that the first stage of the implementation of the strategy will take place without the use of budgetary funds. During this stage, it is planned to assign such services as patrolling the streets of cities (which, by the way, was used not long ago as an experiment) for protecting Cossacks, protecting forests from illegal logging, accidental or targeted arsons. Registered Cossacks will be able to perform duties in the framework of the activities of the Armed Forces of the country, to serve on the state border in special Cossack units. It is planned to increase the number of Cadet Cossack corps and in the near future to open the first Cossack university in Moscow. As a possible base is called capital University. Razumovsky. In addition, the Cossacks will be engaged (frankly, in an incomprehensible while) the protection of the animal world, and will also participate in elections at various levels. The range of tasks that will be able to solve the Cossacks, apparently, is very wide, and the plans - a lot.

If we talk about the military service of the Cossacks, then today there are several Cossack units in the Russian army, including the 247-th Cossack-assault regiment stationed in the Stavropol Territory, which the President assigned to the Guards last summer. The 247 th DShKP was formed on the basis of the 21-th separate DSB. For the first time the word "Cossack" in the name of the brigade appeared in 1994 year, a couple of years after it was relocated to Stavropol.

Explaining how public service can be performed without budget financing, Alexander Beglov revealed the secret. In fact, there will be funding, but it will go within the framework of the existing federal targeted programs. According to him, just each of the activities of the Cossacks will try to include in a particular program, but additional funds for the implementation of the "Cossack project" before 2015 year will not be needed. But then ... But this is, as they say, another story... Obviously, the Cossacks will ask for money from the state in order to develop, let's say, their presence in state work. For this, in particular, the whole “Cossack party” is already working, having managed to register with the Ministry of Justice.

Plans aimed at rectifying the situation with “Cossack non-demand” on the one hand look quite reasonable. If we say, for example, that the Cossacks are entrusted with patrolling the streets, then with a reasonable approach there is nothing reprehensible here. Well, what's wrong if the same Cossacks will effectively monitor the rule of law? Another question is how effectively they will be monitored and how effectively they will interact with police structures. Does it not turn out that everyone will pull the blanket over himself, in fact, being engaged not in guarding the rule of law, but in clarifying the relationship and determining who in this case has more authority.

Speaking of powers ... Talking and decision-making within the Council under the President is one thing, but the real, legally verified implementation of these decisions in the form of relevant laws is quite another. How legitimate will the Cossacks be when they let them patrol the streets or, for example, protect forests from “black” lumberjacks? Is it possible that the offenders will send the Cossacks, trying to convince them or detain them, “to three merry ones” through one? ..

In general, besides decisions within the Council, corresponding changes in Russian legislation are also needed. But here again, there may be a hitch. The fact is that with the possible appearance of a corresponding legal base, with the registration of special privileges, and also with the beginning of the process of state financing of the Cossacks, “additional Cossacks” can also show up - people far from the class traditions, but with the mind close to the idea of ​​reaching the benefits "Cossack fiefdom". If such benefits are found, then random people among modern Cossacks will increase. Even now there are a lot of them, and how many more will there be? .. Therefore, before embodying the ideas of KFOR, Cossacks would need to pay serious attention to their ranks for the purpose of separating, say, flies from cutlets. And while the situation looks more like this: I bought trousers with stripes on the market, a whip and a medal “From Sonya’s Cossacks with Love” - everything - at least, hears ...

Comments

[Andreitas]

There is something sensible in the affairs of the Cossacks. But somehow it’s all frivolous anyway. It smacks of some kind of eccentricity, clowning. Especially when you see their incomprehensible titles, awards and other trinkets. Inexplicable by whom and for what issued.

[Mitek]

Quote: Andreitas

There is something sensible in the affairs of the Cossacks. But somehow it’s all frivolous anyway. It smacks of some kind of eccentricity, clowning. Especially when you see their incomprehensible titles, awards and other trinkets. Inexplicable by whom and for what issued.

There is nothing serious about them. Some clowns are mummers, they hung awards on themselves bought on the market or self-made and under the pretext that they "Cossacks" squeeze out funding or other benefits. I was in the bathhouse with the company and there was the "chieftain" ... in short, all the fuss for federal money and control over agricultural markets. In the Cossacks write any drunk to increase the number of "troops". I was offered to join, they promised me the rank of foreman of some kind, madal and something else)) I refused. Real Cossacks ended in the 20s. There were separate units in the Second World War, but as an estate, as a kind of class, the Cossacks no longer exist. There are, at best, something like military history clubs. No more. And if it had been otherwise, they would not have been screwed up in their asses for their debts and in the villages the blacks were afraid to say every word.

[avt]

Quote: Mitek

There is nothing serious about them. Some clowns are mummers, they hung awards on themselves bought on the market or self-made and under the pretext that they "Cossacks" squeeze out funding or other benefits.

In Moscow, the same "bruises" at the Belarusian railway station were prancing around not so long ago, and Borovoy signed them in the 90s to the Dorogomilovsky market, but about the chopov's mummers that they swarm around churches and stand in the Danilov Monastery, I don't even want to talk. The priests themselves are rushing to the cops' trough on the wave of dissatisfaction with the activities of snickering policemen who have forgotten the concept of duty and honor.

[Walker1975]

Exactly. You can assign the title of "Cossack" active military unit as a tribute to tradition. Like the Americans have armored parts called "cavalry". But roleplaying clubs to assign real military ranks without length of service, without service ... There are no words.

[goldfinger]

Quote: Mitek

. Real Cossacks ended in the 20s. There were separate units in the Second World War,

Another forgotten date in our history. In 1945, from May 28 to June 5, tragic events took place in Austria: the repatriation of Cossacks in the USSR. The exact number of people has not yet been established: 55 - 60 thousand. The fact is that many Cossacks were family, and their wives and children were considered inaccurate.
It is necessary to remind readers of the background. During the Second World War, about 7 million of its citizens were outside the USSR. They can be divided into 3 groups: hijacked to work in Germany (“Ostarbeiters”), prisoners of war and switched to the side of German troops. During the war, there were from 1,3 to 1,5 million people. At the Yalta Conference (February 4-11, 1945) the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition decided to return all its citizens to the USSR. If the majority of prisoners of war and workers sought to return to the Soviet Union, it is clear that the "eastern volunteers" (as they were called) did not want to return.
Among the subjects to be repatriated were first-wave émigrés who had never been Soviet citizens, and even Germans who served in Cossack units. Among the "old emigrants" the most famous were: the former Don Ataman General Pyotr Krasnov, the Cuban Andrei Shkuro (by the way, the knight of the British Empire), the Circassian Sultan Kelech-Girey and many others.
The repatriation process took place with extraordinary cruelty. Many Cossacks who survived the civil war and collectivization clearly understood the consequences of returning to their homeland. Many tried to escape. So, on June 1, 1945, in the Cossack camp near the city of Lienz, about 700 people were killed while trying to escape. The facts of mass suicides have been documented. Entire families threw into the stormy river Drava.

Information about this has long remained banned not only in our country, but also abroad. Talking and writing about it was not accepted. Only in the late 1970s. the descendant of the famous writer Leo Tolstoy Nikolai Tolstoy-Miloslavsky attempted to reveal the details of this unsightly story by publishing a book in English. The fact is that the Allies perfectly understood the essence of the contradictions of the Yalta agreements with the 1929 Geneva Convention. The “principle of form" was legalized in it: a soldier’s citizenship is determined solely by his military uniform, and not by nationality.
As a result, in 1945 - 1951. Western European countries returned up to 3,5 million people from Europe to the Soviet Union. It is clear that their fate was tragic. So, millions of lives were exchanged in the political game of Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt. The Soviet leader promised to enter the war with Japan, and the Allies "closed their eyes" to the obvious violation of international law.
History provides an opportunity to once again make sure that momentary political benefits are more important than the lives of many, many people. It would be naive to impose a “only correct” point of view, but any estimates should be based on knowledge of historical material.
More than half a century has passed. Living witnesses to the bloody tragedy can no longer be found, but in the Austrian Lienz crosses stand in memory of ruined human lives. And the surviving descendants of the Cossacks still come to these places to serve a memorial service. And the ringing of funeral bells floats over the Drava valley ...
And here are some sort of mummers clowns ...
The history of the native country is terrible and incomprehensible.

[Setrac]

Quote: goldfinger

The history of the native country is terrible and incomprehensible.

Was it not "tragic" for them to fight against their homeland? Such is the fate of traitors.

[chief.matros]

and the red feathers made them traitors. Imagine, the state gave you land allotment for protecting its borders, naturally earlier, and even now, if you don’t lie on the stove, you could feed your family and sell some more of the crop, hence the accumulation. And as the Reds came with naked w ... y, so immediately dispossess. Come on. Imagine, a cop will come to you tomorrow and take your car for no reason, if you worked as a taxi driver on this car, you would understand what it is. So the Cossack and the horse, and livestock, and the rest of the good in favor of the German spies (Lenin & Company) were taken away, how would you feel in their place when you took away your blood and earned for a receipt, huh?

[goldfinger]

Quote: chief.matros

and the red feathers made them traitors. Imagine, the state gave you land allotment for protecting its borders, naturally earlier, and even now, if you don’t lie on the stove, you could feed your family and sell some more of the crop, hence the accumulation. And as the Reds came with naked w ... y, so immediately dispossess. Come on.

Event Canvas
1919 year
From the Directive of the Central Committee of the RCP (b) "To all responsible comrades working in the Cossack regions" ... Conduct a mass terror against the rich Cossacks, exterminating them without exception; to carry out a merciless mass terror against all the Cossacks who took any direct or indirect part in the struggle against Soviet power "...
1919 ... "Freeing" the Cossack lands for the settlers, 30-60 people were shot in the villages per day. In just 6 days, over 400 people were shot in the villages of Kazanskaya and Shumilinskaya. In Vyoshenskaya - 600. So the "decossackization" began ...
1932 year
... the Cossack of the Samburovskaya village of the North Don Region, Burukhin, when the grain procurers arrived at night, “went out on the porch in full full Cossack uniform, with medals and crosses and said:“ Do not see the Soviet regime’s bread from an honest Cossack “” ...
The uprising of the village of Tikhoretskaya in the Kuban, 1932
... The rebels put up a desperate resistance. Every inch of the land was defended by them with extraordinary ferocity ... Despite the lack of weapons, the numerical superiority of the enemy, the large number of wounded and killed and the lack of food and military supplies, the insurgents held out for a total of 12 days and only on the thirteenth day did the battle along the entire line cease ... and at night all against whom there was the slightest suspicion of sympathy for the rebels. There was no mercy to anyone, neither children, nor the elderly, nor women, nor even the seriously ill "...
1941 year
... "In the very first battle I went over to the side of the Germans. He said that I would avenge all my relatives while I was alive. And I took revenge."
1942 year
... "In the summer of 1942, the Germans came with the Cossacks. They began to form a volunteer Cossack regiment. I was the first in the village to volunteer for the 1st Cossack regiment (1st platoon, 1st hundred). I received a mare, a saddle and harness, a saber and a carbine. I took the oath of allegiance to Father Quiet Don ... Father and mother praised and were proud of me "...
Quotes from different. sources. Who cares, go to any search engine.
This is a speck of dust of that tragedy, "mixed up" in Russian blood, by a bunch of crazy "builders of world happiness" in 1917, and waves from which will "diverge" for a long time in our history and life. No Putin can drive this bloody drama into the United History Textbook.
And it is not for us to judge the ashes of the Russian people whom life has forced to make their fateful choice.

[Setrac]

Quote: goldfinger

And it is not for us to judge the ashes of the Russian people whom life has forced to make their fateful choice.

I understand that you from Belarus know better than I am a resident of the Kuban.

[ivshubarin]

Whatever the "red-fins" did, but Hitler had the goal of destroying the Russians as a nation and helping him under the guise of hardships under Soviet power does not justify a single Russian

[volkodav]

how easy it is to talk about it now. But first, to deceive you with everything that you and your father and grandfather earned later with blood and then I'll see how you will love this power

[Hon]

And where does the power? They fought against the Russian people, which means traitors, and deserve only complete destruction.

[Beech]

Again Krupsky is to blame ... when did you manage to fight and harvest the crop, and what else to sell? It was better to fight, and not to go to meetings ... they did everything themselves, and even fought against their own ... it was necessary to check a German to raise, not women with children ...

[avt]

Quote: goldfinger

Living witnesses to the bloody tragedy can no longer be found, but in the Austrian Lienz crosses stand in memory of ruined human lives. And the surviving descendants of the Cossacks still come to these places to serve a memorial service. And the ringing of funeral bells floats over the Drava valley ...

Is it about the under-essists? Well, who took the oath of allegiance to Hitler in the 43rd, but the Germans still did not write them down in the SS and kept them in the lackeys with the SS Panzer Corps. "They distinguished themselves" mainly as punishers, in Italy and Yugoslavia, well, apart from the USSR. So what? A monument to them? Or repenting that our grandfathers took Berlin !? So this is not a date in our history and no fucking grief about Hitler's lackeys. Maybe even to the Ukrainian policemen that people were burned alive in Belarus, in Katyn in particular, you will put up worship crosses ???

[goldfinger]

Quote: avt

Maybe even the Ukrainian policemen that they burned people alive in Belarus, in Katyn in particular, will you put bow crosses ???

The history of the native country is terrible and incomprehensible. Here are my words. Where is sedition here !? In a country where, since 1917. everything is mixed up, brother to brother, son to father. It is necessary to know the history, and not just the "Short Course of the AUCPB", I think so. Therefore, I brought this historical fact. I thought the Inquisition in Russia was over. Leave your quote with you. There is no need to casually insult people you don't know.

[avt]

Quote: goldfinger

The history of the native country is terrible and incomprehensible.

Which one? And which one? I’m here punishers on the side of the Germans who fought even in Cossack popes, I do not rank in the history of my country.

Quote: goldfinger

I thought the Inquisition in Russia was over

The amnesia began liberoid, black for white and vice versa give out and still demand to be touched and beat in a hysterical repentance. I don’t know about you, but for me Shkuro, Krasnov, von Panwitz and others like them and under their command are enemies, Nazi lackeys, like those Ukrainian and Baltic policemen, and the Kaminsky brigade from the Bryansk region, and there will be no other story. and facts, before sticking a shortcut about the course of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks in the manner of denunciation, I recommend reading for yourself, about the glorious combat "path of the Cossack formations so dear to your heart, which even the Germans called foreigners and kept at a distance, neither in the SS nor in The Wehrmacht was not enrolled. And if they decided to mention the White Guards, there are more than enough examples of more dignified behavior, starting with Denikin.

[chief.matros]

But what do you see only bad in the Cossacks? And how many of them were on our part, hundreds of heroes.

[ivshubarin]

Why only the bad, the growth of the Russian Empire in Siberia and the Far East is the merit of the Cossacks

[volkodav]

Yes, you are probably proud of the grandfather and great-grandfather who were in the food detachments, or they may have served Trotsky’s personal guard, then your reaction is clear

[revnagan]

Quote: goldfinger

There is no need, while walking, to insult people you do not know.

Personally, we do not know, but what does it say there? "By their deeds you will recognize them." Something like that. And their deeds were terrible.

[volkodav]

and the Bolsheviks are angels in the flesh, it’s not they who poisoned their people with fighting gases

[chief.matros]

Dr. Goebbels then many brains twisted so that oo-yo. And traitors, and now no less, the entire Kremlin and the State Duma, you can put and machine a machine gun right at the Kremlin wall, so as not to travel far. And here is another interesting fact: during the first Chechen company in the consolidated Cossack regiment there was not one killed, only seven wounded, and all because they refused to give passages to the Czechs and did not sell weapons, so our fathers-commanders quickly the rear was thrown so that the money didn’t interfere with laundering, but you’re ready to see the bad, you just don’t know either the Cossacks or their history, by the way in 1968 there was an uprising in the city of Novocherkassk against the Soviet regime, but why delve into the net, and you nobody even knows about it, clowns.

[Svyatoslavovich]

Is Tolstoy-Miloslavsky not one of the pseudonyms of Suzorov-Rezun?

[chief.matros]

he painted the prehistory well, but the ending is not very good. Firstly, you are a clown yourself, and secondly, where is she your native country? The Red Cossacks exterminated by the thousands, even under Art. Kushchevskaya (the episode ended about her now on TV is in progress), the cavalry division was thrown with bare drafts at the erupting German tanks, and this is not an isolated case, grandmothers said that of those German tankmen, after the battle more than half were taken away from the fool, they went crazy from the blood and meat, the rivulet flowed nearby, so it was completely flooded with blood. And the true story is still hidden from us.

[Denis]

Quote: chief.matros

the cavalry division was thrown with bare sabers at the erupted German tanks, and this is not an isolated case, grandmothers said

By the nonsense of the Poles he surpassed noble specialists in this matter
The same clown mummer, you know about cavalry only from comics
In WWII, she was rather an analogue of motorized infantry, mobile, dashing attacks were, only mostly in the movies

[ivshubarin]

Such a story was with the Polish cavalry

[Denis]

Quote: ivshubarin

Such a story was with the Polish cavalry

About their ability, it is said above that in order for the enemy to succeed, it must be tied to the event, and further, the more monstrous the boxes, the more they will believe in it

The attack of the Polish cavalry on tanks is an alleged episode of World War II, according to which the Polish lancers with knives in horseback ranged against German armored vehicles. According to historians, this episode (about a targeted attack by cavalrymen on tanks) is a myth, although the story is based on a real battle between Polish and German troops near Kroyants.

Even the film was shot, it’s like they drove the Germans from Stalingrad with one tank to Berlin, who remembers as a child.

The battle of Kroyant on September 1, 1939, formed the basis of the story of the cavalry attack. Guderian’s memoirs speak of a cavalry attack on September 3. The historian A. Isaev describes the battle as follows: the Polish 18th Pomeranian Lancers regiment waged a defensive battle in the morning of September 1. In the afternoon, the regiment was ordered to attack the German infantry from the rear and then retreat. The maneuverable detachment of the regiment (the 1st and 2nd squadrons and two platoons of the 3rd and 4th squadrons) was supposed to go to the infantry from the rear, and after the attack, move to the Polish fortifications in the town of Rytel. [2]
The detachment discovered that the German battalion was located on a halt 300-400 m from the edge of the forest. It was decided to attack using the effect of surprise. The commander of the 18th regiment, Colonel Mastalezh, took part in the attack. According to Isaev, the attack turned out to be successful: cavalrymen chopped off infantry taken by surprise with sabers. However, German armored vehicles appeared from the forest, opening machine-gun fire. One German gun also entered the fray. The Poles were forced to retreat, having suffered heavy losses, half of the riders survived. According to Isaev, after the cavalry attack, three officers were killed (including the regiment commander) and 23 lancers, one officer and about 50 lancers were wounded. [2] In general, according to Isaev, the regiment suffered most of the losses on September 1, 1939 in defensive combat (up to 60% of people, 7 machine guns, 2 anti-tank guns), and not in this attack.
Thus, Isaev concludes, cavalrymen did not attack the tanks, but they themselves were bombarded by armored vehicles
Later, the Germans invited military journalists William Shearer and Indro Montanelli and showed the battlefield with the killed cavalrymen, saying that they tried to attack the tanks. Journalists, taking this seriously, distributed this version, which later became very popular.

Even painted a picture. The tanks are one in one GermanThe picture of the Polish artist Jerzy Kossak “The Battle of Kutno in 1939”. The picture shows how German tankers surrender, rising from the tank’s tower. Cavalrymen armed with sabers, lances and pistols

[Denis]

for ivshubarin And there was still an attack of clowns

Another battle involving the Polish cavalry and German armored vehicles took place on September 19, 1939 near Vulka Venglova. This episode is shown in the painting by Andrzej Wajda “Flying” (1959). However, in this battle, German armored vehicles were not the direct target of the attack by the riders, the cavalry tried to get out of the encirclement, making their way through the resting German infantry. However, the Poles were met with dense fire, losing about 100 people killed and 100 wounded
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And also the brave lancers of the invaders defeated the Red Army

The website of the memoirs of Soviet veterans iremember.ru contains the words of the driver of the 139th separate tank battalion Ivan Maslov (was on the T-26 tank) about the entry of the Red Army in the summer of 1939:
No special battles took place there, but I had to become a witness and participant in repelling the Polish cavalry attack on our tank battalion. And this is not a joke. And when the Polish cavalrymen "with lava" with sabers baldly went to our tanks, we thought that they, these Polish lancers or hussars, were completely fucked up? They were quickly crushed and shot. The Poles threw horses and weapons, and scattered - who were captured by us, and someone ran to their home, to the west. And then the captured Poles told us that before the attack they were told that the Russians had all the plywood tanks and that they did not represent any danger ...

Enough for a diagnosis ...

[225chay]

Quote: Mitek

Real Cossacks ended in the 20s. There were separate units in the Second World War, but as an estate, as a kind of class, there are no more Cossacks.

Such Putin does not need. It’s scary for them to have real ones, but to have weapons with them ... That way they can take their heads off

[chief.matros]

and we can really blow our heads, therefore, Putin with the company is afraid to give weapons, otherwise even the order in the Caucasus and the country would have been nice. Therefore, he keeps beside him lackeys, and here they can be called clowns, although again not all. Imagine, at the end of the 90s, the beginning of the 2000s, the Moscow protégé railway fluttered led the Kuban Cossack army, the chieftains could not do anything, because Moscow delivered only when the Cossacks delivered an ultimatum to strong maskals, then they removed it, and you Cossacks, Cossacks. Moscow does not give order to restore in the regions !!!

[stroporez]

the movement of the Cossacks is a movement of the people towards order. of course "leaders" do not need this. their whole vile essence is aimed at how to spoil and destroy this and other movements of the people ... something like this

[chief.matros]

You yourself are clowns, mummers, the blacks beat you and will beat you, because you have no unity. We went to the Cossack patrols (in Karachay-Cherkessia), even during the first Chechen campaign and from weapons we only had a couple of rez. Dubins and a walkie-talkie for 4 people, and when at night "Lezginka" began to play on the territory entrusted to us, we were not afraid to go and make a remark to everyone present there, as a result everything fell silent and the dancers left the town, because they knew that if they touched someone, they could immediately announce a big gathering (something like a battle alarm) and we would be not four, but more, just like that, and in your streets, in the middle of the night, "Lezginka" is still shouting from the speakers of cars. And drunks and bruises are in all nations, take my word for it, I live in the North Caucasus.

[Beech]

Good wishes ... and in our apartment there is gas and water supply ... where is your unity? In stripes and orders? Lamps in trainings and a gopot wears ... but where are the orders from?

[Evgeniy-111]

Not even clowning, but operetta!
So far, apart from colorful parades and choral singing, there is nothing useful from this.

[Dangerous]

The Georgian army immediately came to mind

[chief.matros]

if you are so dangerous, come to the Caucasus to live, not to fuck .. in front of youngsters in kindergarten.

[klimpopov]

My grandmother likes choral singing. Recently I went to the Kuban Cossack Choir, they say they sing very well ...

[atalef]

Quote: Evgeniy-111

So far, apart from colorful parades and choral singing, there is nothing useful from this.

And while the situation looks more like this: I bought pants with stripes on the market, a whip and a medal “From the Cossack Sonya with love” - everything - at least, hung up ...

I have a good friend, such a millionaire, well, in general, a fairly wealthy person (in Israel 0
So being somehow at his house, I see he hung out a cloak to ventilate, I tell him. Borya. I certainly understand on long winter evenings in Israel, except there is nothing to warm up in a burka why do you need this device
To which he answers me. all his enterprises in the Kuban and, of course, are covered by their Cossacks, for which he unfastens them and even carries them to Israel for treatment of both their and their relatives, for which he was granted the rank of esaul toli. or so. with the delivery of a hat. checkers and burkas. Here is such a Jew-esaul -Borya. Probably with Kobzon (also like a Cossack) and Rosenbaum - they drive on the same cart

[Aeneas]

the Ukrainian Cossacks included Jews who reached high posts, for example, the clan of the Mirovichi. Essentially they were arrested.

[chief.matros]

Remember, you are a dark people, that the one who was born and lived or lived on the Cossack lands for at least 25 years, is considered a Cossack. in the wild, since ancient times it was believed, because the Cossacks were originally runaway people from tsarist and boyar lawlessness, and of all categories. Therefore, in the Cossacks there are Tatars, Balts, Circassians, Circassians, and many more nationalities.

[Mikhail3]

Who is dark, and who is not strong ... When the Don Cossack Army began to be given land, water resources, forests from the Russian state ... so it became necessary that whoever wanted to become a Cossack could not become. Sorry, those "old times", less than two centuries. For Russia - a single moment.
And before that who was able to stick to the circle - that and the Cossack. Now there are no Cossacks and they cannot be. Sons of Cossack and those not, age.

[stroporez]

I read somewhere sho on Sich sales kuren zh..sky was .......

[avt]

Quote: atalef

Here is such a Jew-esaul -Borya. Probably with Kobzon (also like a Cossack) and Rosenbaum - they are laughing at the same cart

This is normal, so Rutskoi at the beginning of his "glorious deeds" created a true Communist Party, then he said that he was a Kursk Cossack, when Zhorik Hohenzoller came as a young boy, he announced that he was a hereditary boyar. Well, when he was transferred to agriculture and went to Israel, he said What is it that my mother is Jewish. So the braid turned out to be more abrupt than Kobzon with Rosenbaum - a communist, a Cossack, a boyar, a Jew in one bottle, and even a colonel flew to Foros and for the "liberation" of Gorby a major general received.

[chief.matros]

but you know why, I don’t remember which one, they give karate, but just for the development of this martial art, you may not be a karate, but you will have it. So in the Cossacks, for the multiplication of the Cossack’s affairs and good deeds for the Cossacks, you can get some kind of thread rank.

[chief.matros]

in your Moscow "Lezginka" yells more often at night than in the Caucasus, and you still mean order ...?

[klimpopov]

Ha ha! You look at the certificate at the end of the article))) ah-ha "Colonel Life Guards" Russian Empire))
I recently had one Armenian poke a crust on his face, with such pathos, I thought a cop, but some kind of strange cop, the cops don’t behave like that, turned out to be a Cossack. as a major. I say why not the chieftain?)))))

Okay. Seriously though, this clowniness is wildly annoying (I'm talking about my region, I'm not touching Krasnodar, everything is different there). It is a shame, a shame to my grandfather and great-grandfathers, to mock the Cossacks so much. I laugh through tears when I see these clowns who are running with their "crust".

We are standing with my father in a large store in the foyer (well, we are waiting for our women and they are looking at some bottles there, and what is more, they are not that necessary), we miss the guard, like a guard, watchman, chevron - military intelligence is resting, "Cossack troops" - Dad approached him (Dad 98 kg at 190 height, 50 years old man and pulls himself up 20 times by the corner behind his head, I’m a maximum of 8) well, and the "Cossack" is so friendly on the shoulder, they say the lad is good, so he almost spat out his lungs, and it can be seen that the Cossacks were from bodunishch. And they have strange "duties" to protect shopping centers. This is just one case.
These are our "Cossacks". Shame.


PS Haha, Colonel General of the Life Guard, Russia, I was burnt at work, I’m still wiping coffee from Klava ...)))



AAAAAA I have not finished reading there yet "the name of the emperor Nicolas III" AAAAAAAAA all hysteria. No, of course I've seen before, but this ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: klimpopov

PS Haha, Colonel General of the Life Guard, Russia, I was burnt at work, I’m still wiping coffee from Klava ...)))

But, but easier. You don’t see Klim, a document signed by Natalia’s Eurasian Communist Party. I'm afraid to decipher these three letters E and B

Quote: klimpopov

AAAAAA I have not read there yet "the name of Emperor Nicolas III"

I understand your work day is over
Hi

[klimpopov]

Hi Sasha! I wonder what such people have in their heads? Cossacks of the brain.
Yes, a day of work has just begun, but with positive. As always, Friday and bustle.
The country must know the heroes in person!

[Hon]

Here are two more heroes

[Hon]

He is a cossack and in africa a cossack

[RUSS]

The photo is not a Cossack, these are Africans from Abkhazia and this is a fact.

[Eternal demobilization]

))))))))) And I already saw this picture somewhere. In my opinion in Abkhazia there were villages with Africans ...

[klimpopov]

And there is!
http://dionisbojko.wordpress.com/%D0%B0%D0%B1%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B
8%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80%D1%8B/

[Serg 122]

Obviously EIV Nicholas III himself, with his retinue !!!

[chief.matros]

so at least they don’t water you with shit at home at home, but you look at one of your relatives or acquaintances and save them from the Basurmans hand

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: klimpopov

The country must know the heroes in person!

Listen, and it’s Shaw’s cross with him, he waved his wand as early as the first world war. Who is allowed to wear such orders and where they took him to hang on to this.

[klimpopov]

Yes, there almost for taking Shipka orders! They are similar from a distance, and when you look at it, it’s forever some kind of commemorative medals and the like ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: klimpopov

They are similar from a distance, and when you look at it, it’s forever some kind of commemorative medals and the like ..

And I see, the person posted the photo. Listen, and where such crap can be ordered, one of us will soon have a birthday. A cool gift

[klimpopov]

Well, we order in Stavropol (for gifts). I want you to do it. Only a sketch came.
Do you want one? With your profile?

And here’s another great photo.

[Hon]

but I found this one

[atalef]

Popik, I’m watching a battle. such. By the way, the Ivashov Academy (his articles here are somewhat popular), so this patriot established on his behalf orders and medals with names and types that are almost identical to the state ones (like Kutuzova, Nakhimov. Suvorov, Zhukov, etc.) and distributed the awards with buckets - - for grandmas, of course.

[chief.matros]

Do you know who the kingdom of heaven was, Father Gideon, Metropolitan of Vladikavkaz and Stavropol? An Afghan Air Force or Air Force colonel in reserve passed an Afghan, was wounded several times, and was awarded military awards (he was still a lieutenant in Afghanistan), and how many people went to the churches after Chechnya?

[chief.matros]

so what is it? People of different faiths met at all times.

[RUSS]

This is most likely not "George", there are very similar modern Cossack awards, for example, something like "for the revival of the Cossacks," etc., copies of St. George's crosses.

[klimpopov]

She even looked like a Hero of Russia! It seems to have been banned. I can’t find it.

[chief.matros]

"George" is given only for real military merits and only in wartime, for carrying out actions on foreign territory, and not as a star of the hero of Russia, for a war on the territory of Russia itself. Therefore, all the formalities "For the revival of the Cossacks" are observed there, this is the revival

[Vasia kruger]

Cossacks themselves and each other than they do not reward the current .... and still inherit the awards ...

[chief.matros]

orders and medals of ancestors are allowed to be worn according to Cossack laws, first poyuzay in the network, and then go. But print, balabol you are all here

[Pablo_K]

Quote: chief.matros

orders and medals of ancestors are allowed to be worn according to Cossack laws, first poyuzay in the network, and then go. But print, balabol you are all here

about 100 years ago such a descendant of heroes would be treated
whips

[Denis]

Quote: Be proud.

He is not just a hero, he is a superhero.

[chief.matros]

ours will come, personally I’ll carve you on the square in Stavropol

[Cossack23]

brother, do not argue with them when they don’t understand us, they have a sense of patriotism is determined by money and so it has been for centuries. Do not forget the underdeveloped ETU country was built by Cossacks, at least respect for this. We are the descendants of the Turkic people (Cherkasy, Cossacks), it all defines us as a separate people who faithfully served this country and this country betrayed us and they still say that we are burdened 70 years brought to this state. we are not Cossacks (we obviously don’t want to give their will), but our children are already proudly looking at our history so sho GLORY OF THE KUBAN !!!

[baltika-18]

Quote: klimpopov

Ha ha! You look at the certificate at the end of the article))) ah-ha "Colonel Life Guards" Russian Empire)

Yes, and the name of Emperor Nicholas 3. Who is this? We only had two of them Nikolaev. Or maybe I don’t know what, lagged behind life, have you already chosen the third one?

[Uncle]

Quote: baltika-18

Yes, and the name of Emperor Nicholas 3. Who else is this?

Maybe it's me? But no, I forgot, I'm False Dmitry.

[chief.matros]

Yes, it’s fake, it’s ksiva, there are none in the Cossacks, someone printed it and posted it here on the site, before in the transitions it was possible to order the ksiva of the Russian president

[Gari]

Quote: klimpopov

AAAAAA I have not read there yet "the name of Emperor Nicolas III"

Good afternoon, read inattentively - who issued this ,, serious ,, certificate - EIV Nataliya 1.

[Gari]

I can supplement the topic and we have them in Armenia, although it sounds fun, but it turns out to be a fact
The Armenian-Russian Cossack Association was created on January 27, 2009, and there are about 6 Cossacks, both Armenians and Russians.
Of course everything is connected with history, Mikhail Tarielovich Loris-Melikov is a hereditary Cossack! It was he who organized the Yerevan Cossack Regiment, and then commanded the Cossack formations in the victorious war with Turkey in 1877-1878.
During this war, the Armenian Cossack Tigran Danielovich Arutinov was promoted to Yesaul and then awarded the Order of St. Anne of the XNUMXst degree and Stanislav of the XNUMXst degree, as well as the St. George arms.
But now in our time, and where?

[Uncle]

Quote: Gari

I can supplement the topic and we have them in Armenia, although it sounds fun, but it turns out to be a fact

There are Cossacks in Azerbaijan too. Do not know which are cooler, Armenian, Azerbaijani or Moscow?

[Gari]

Quote: Uncle

Do not know which are cooler, Armenian, Azerbaijani or Moscow?

What's better?
In appearance?
And what can a parade be organized on Red Square - all the Cossacks of the CIS and, in general, a worldwide gathering.

[Gari]

But seriously, I do not know how these ballroom Cossacks, and the real Cossacks patriots helped us during the war in Karabakh, they themselves came to help co-religionists, without any money volunteers. The only thing they asked them to take the selected trophies with them was, of course, they were not allowed to pick up a great fight, there were a lot of trophies, we needed it, there was a shortage, but the Cossacks were not offended, we agreed.
We in Armenia know if God forbid war, again the real Cossacks brothers Cossacks will come to the rescue.

[Uncle]

Quote: Gari

real Cossacks patriots helped us during the war in Karabakh

In Moscow, these are clowns, all in orders and medals, well, if only one, but they are full of such, some kind of mass psychosis weigh themselves with undeserved rewards. In my opinion, this is simply unworthy.
.

[chief.matros]

right and sober as I look here only you can speak out !!!

[chief.matros]

This is a good idea, only Moscow and the "Muscovites" are afraid of the Cossack movement, and the Mascals' animals too, so they deployed this little article to mock. We put things in order in our town in a month: the people at the discos were mostly sober, there were no drugs (do the maskals need it?), There was order on the streets (do our managers need this?), Thefts and the so-called gop-stop ( Do the cops need it?), the hijacking of vehicles has disappeared altogether (again, do the cops need it?), theft of cattle from the outskirts and thefts from country dachas have stopped almost completely, and you are clowns. So you know who was the first to whine from the order, the cop bosses - they began to cry that their crime had dropped sharply and they could soon be cut down, that's how they dispersed our Cossack squad.

[allim]

Comedians in northern Kazakhstan recalled that there were Cossacks, the so-called Cossacks of the Gorky Line, they got out the natzip tsatskis who themselves did the ataman chose laughter and tears disgrace the idea and no one will come and say PRI D UR K

[chief.matros]

cooler will be the ones that unfasten you with the first legs

[chief.matros]

yeah, with the development of technology, people grow dull. Cossack, it's like ... the wind in the field, like ... the stars in the sky, this is a state of mind (only sober, and you don't need to say that all Cossacks are alcoholics), in short, not everyone is given it, a Cossack is primarily a border guard , watch the film "White Sun of the Desert" and you will understand what a real Cossack he is (the image of Vereshchagin), who is not afraid of anyone and does not take bribes, honest border guard, have you faced such a long time? Only in life, and not in serials about honest cops, prosecutors and border guards.

[Valery Neonov]

Probably-Natasha Koroleva, before the scene, Natasha Rip ..

[Serg 122]

Natalya 1 ???

[AlNick]

It's a pity you can only bet once ...

[Vasia kruger]

In vain you laugh. Somewhere in France, in a village, a whole Russian imperial court in exile is sitting, in all seriousness, titles and ranks are favored. Needless to say, these clowns have no relation to the imperial family. But fact is fact.
Search the Internet for "the Russian imperial court in exile" ... do not choke on coffee, I guarantee laughter for three days.

[avt]

Quote: Vasia Kruger

Somewhere in France, in a village of a whole Russian imperial court in exile

Come on ! In Moscow, in the 90s, I knew three of them, in Tsarina personally I saw the tsarina of Tsar Romanov — Dalsky with a frying pan — he fry cutlets for the tsar, and I didn’t count the Cossacks’s life there, the whole chief colonel and general major. So direct and wrote - to assign the rank of Colonel General KV, signature - General Major KV

[chief.matros]

but all chicha ksiva fsbshnye

[allim]

like in Kazakhstan, to the question of what kind of orders you have, such incomprehensible ones got an answer: YES WE HAVE UNKHRESTY ARE KILLED AND WILL BE KILLED; but the ataman didn’t answer the simple question ATAMAN couldn’t answer, he had to explain the word ataman denotes in Turkic ata men O T E C he still did not understand the full nos. here it is the Cossacks K L OU N N S

[chief.matros]

yes it seems to me that the Cossack is mishandled, i.e. ksiva lime. I have a familiar Cossack, so that with a height of 180 and a weight of about 80 kg, the horseshoe bends, and your dad can do that?

[SolomonSS]

I support, it's some kind of circus, clowns on stage. We have a secular state, we have the police, the FSB - who have the rights given by the state and the law, it is they who must fulfill their functions. And no need to invent anything else. If the police cannot fulfill their direct duties, then you need to deal with the leaders who lead these bodies.

[seller trucks]

in fact, I have nothing against the Cossacks, but in my associative series, they look like this

[chief.matros]

did you see yourself drunk Here are your blue jokes on you tube to lay out, if only we were neighing !!!

[vadimus]

The more Russian movements, the less chance of our enemies. I'm all for it!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: vadimus

I am for it!

Circus he and circus africa

[chief.matros]

only you clown forgot to pick up

[Eternal demobilization]

And the certificate is cool. Signed, as I understand it, "HER IMPERIAL MAJESTY". The abbreviation EIV so probably stands for? NATALIA 1.)))
Colonel of the Life Guard))) Oh, no, the whole Colonel General.)))

[Vasia kruger]

Take it higher, Obersturmbansotnik, not lower judging by the mustache))))

[chief.matros]

Nope, the smelter

[KazaK Bo]

Quote: Andreitas

There is something sensible in the affairs of the Cossacks. But somehow it’s all frivolous anyway. It smacks of some kind of eccentricity, clowning.

Yes ... there are still enough "mummers" (as we in the Kuban call those whom you call clowns) ... but they are mainly in those regions where the Cossacks are self-styled or the leadership of the region knows about the Cossacks only from "Quiet Don" SHOLOKHOV ... Although we still have enough props in the Kuban ... But NOT LESS THAN USE !! Compare the behavior of the North Caucasian and Transcaucasian migrants in STAVRAPOL REGION and here ... in the KRASNODAR region ... ... Visitors are clearly explained, first of all by the Cossacks, that in a "foreign monastery, visitors should not introduce their own charter" and procedures ... And what kind of assistance is provided to the police by joint patrolling with the police in ensuring public order, raising children, preventing child criminality ... I don’t have a special drink for our governor ... but for organizing the Cossacks for the benefit of society - honor and praise to him.
Yes ... as an estate, the Cossacks, perhaps, have outlived their usefulness, but as an organized force for the benefit of the state (if they are organized and directed correctly), this cannot be taken away. In total there are NINE Cossack regions, which means there are NINE Cossack troops! In the rest - self-styled "mummers"! Therefore, about the Cossacks of Chukotka, Tambov, St. Petersburg ... (and 74 more regions), one should not judge all the Cossacks ...!

[Serg 122]

We have no attempts on the part of a dozen immigrants in Dagestan or Chechnya to keep whole villages in fear ...

This is certainly great, but they are now fleeing from you to us in the Stavropol! But we don’t have a governor - they kicked out the old one, they haven’t appointed a new one yet - there is a temporary acting organization, but he’s busy with another one now - he’s gaining points before the elections ...

[chief.matros]

and you are aware that by order of the V.V. PU in Kislovodsk, these natives were ordered to allocate at least 50 hectares of land for housing construction (despite the fact that there is not much land in sour and so on, but between the mountains), in Pyatigorsk at least 70, and in the eastern part of Stavropol he gave them Cossack lands, local leaders simply in aha ... e-between two fires were. I say, Cossacks would have had more weapons, but they would have put things in order.

[225chay]

Quote: chief.matros

in the eastern part of Stavropol, he gave them Cossack lands, local leaders simply in aha ... e-between two fires were

The problem cannot be glossed over. It is necessary to make noise, appeal to the press and upstairs. Immediately slow down the sale of land. But everything is within the law!

[225chay]

Quote: Serg 122

But we don’t have a governor - they kicked out the old one, they haven’t appointed a new one yet - there is a temporary acting organization, but he’s busy with another one now - he’s gaining points before the elections ...

New or VRI-about which Vladimirov is a protege of the Kremlin. Energy resource businessman. Will continue the policy of United Russia to fill the Stavropol Territory with Putin's favorite "guests"

[Uncle]

Quote: KazaK Bo

But also USE NOT LESS !!

Thank God!

[chief.matros]

correctly said, they are used to listening to "lezginka" at night, let them continue to listen

[Walker1975]

Plus. Especially when insignia from different Cossack units. The medals are incomprehensible for what they were issued, the titles are incomprehensibly assigned by whom. A certificate in general from a non-existent state.

Let's print the identity of the Governor and the warriors of Kievan Rus. Why not? Or in Kazan you can print a certificate: Golden Horde. Thousand.

And you can form a battalion of elven special forces.

And if the Cossacks act as law enforcement agencies, border guards, the Armed Forces, then you need to make changes to the relevant laws. Legalize their titles, documents, etc. Otherwise, on what basis will they carry out the same detentions? Can you imagine people coming up to you, showing the identity card of colonels of the Russian Empire and demanding to open the trunk?

[chief.matros]

Moscow does not need this, it’s crime immediately going down, how will they be laundering loot?

[timer]

I am skeptical of this venture. It smacks of clowning and idle talk. Quality is our story, not the present.

[chief.matros]

one who knows the story poorly ends up poorly, and the Cossacks are our reborn present with truly effective laws. Did you know that if the chieftain or other high rank of the Cossacks breaks the law, what will happen to him will simply be demolished, deprived of all the regalia, and then they will prey out in the square, tearing the trousers off his ass. In the city of Novocherkassk in the dashing 90s, a certain citizen raped a girl, his Cossacks caught him, on a day off, in the central square they tied him up with a bare ass for a crime and poured scourges, after this incident this citizen left the city, and in such offenses naturally stopped in the city, only Moscow liberals didn’t like this order and also dispersed the Cossack squad. And in the grocery markets, what order was there before (again, in the mid-90s), no resellers and obscure traders, everything is at a normal price, and if you overestimate the price of goods, go trade in another place.

[chief.matros]

According to our Cossack law, the Cossacks have the right to wear the descendants of the Cossack, i.e. children, grandchildren, etc., and this, by the way, was enshrined even in ancient tsarist times, thus it was still emphasized, if there were no wars, that the Cossack belongs to a worthy family, and his ancestors adequately defended the borders of the territory entrusted to them.

[allim]

And I absolutely agree I live in Kazakhstan, I have seen enough of these clowns, they fastened some pieces of iron with crosses reminiscent of Georgians themselves drunken in a duplin walk in the streets singing some kind of songs provoke local Aborigines and this local Cossacks

[Lech from our city]

It’s hard for me personally to imagine how a small group of people (Cossacks) will be able to influence the situation on a national scale — more like PR.

[Starfish]

Now real Cossacks would not hurt the country, but where can we get them only?
I have 2 father-in-law hereditary Cossacks, though they do not participate in current performances. they are good people of course, but they don’t pull in my mind those Cossacks that were before

[atalef]

Quote: Starfish

Now real Cossacks would not hinder the country

And who knows what they are real?

[chief.matros]

Lekha, you are clearly not from our city, Krasnodar, Stavropol Territory, Rostov and part of the Voronezh Region — the Cossack Territory, and you are a small group of people. Do you even know that where you bathe on the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus-Caucasus, the whole land is covered with Cossack blood in the wars with Turkey, and this, incidentally, is the entire Black Sea coast of Russia !!!

[allim]

Lech is enough and one moron who will raise the people
Today I was visiting a single KAZAKH. This is our Kazakh, but today, in the village of Presnovskaya, the drunken mummers in the form were simply beaten and he served in the SA
very loyal to us and this is in Kazakhstan and now he will be taken to the police and he will begin to yell that Kazakhs are oppressing the Cossacks

[ale-x]

Ksiva is cool ... Who is Her Imperial Majesty Natalia I? Very interesting....
The Cossacks should be .. And the functions are the same as those in the Russian Empire should be preserved - guarding the borders and keeping people on the waiting list ready for mobilization (without horses)))))).

[aszzz888]

The fact that there are many mummers of Cossacks is not a secret for anyone. To direct their movement in the necessary direction will be useful and useful. And so, somehow everything is on its own, and who is what much. Hence the lack of understanding of them (Cossacks) by the majority of the people.

[chief.matros]

so the center does not allow to direct everything in the right direction, they are afraid there will be a lot of order

[saag]

Cossacks served in the border areas, and send them all there, but in general it’s a rake, old, but in the new version, if you develop them, they will certainly come, it was already like that in history

[chief.matros]

and you even read this real story, can you still believe that you came from a monkey?

[225chay]

Quote: chief.matros

and you even read this real story, can you still believe that you came from a monkey?

"They" have their own histories ... "They" believe in "theirs" and rewrite in their own way for the people

[morpogr]

If the order becomes more, then God help.

[Dangerous]

This is something like the national guard in the US will ??

[ale-x]

The National Guard is the internal troops, the tasks are similar.

[chief.matros]

and in Russia, for your information, before the revolution of 1917, except for the Cossacks, the people were not afraid of anyone, and the Cossacks obtained freedom with their blood, their own way. And there was always order in the Cossack troops, for which their kings and not only respected.

[Standard Oil]

Interestingly, why do I need a police? As far as I know, the police should monitor the order, there were still some left-wing Cossacks who came out of nowhere. And by the way, I still have to pay money for this, for what reason? I still suggest to everyone who wants to play war games or defel through the streets with a whip, protecting the law and order, go to Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, let the Cossacks there keep order on the streets or what they can do there, because as for me it's ordinary loafers.

[chief.matros]

and no one forces you to pay. The Cossack form is acquired for one’s own money, like all ammunition, and your premises are kept on voluntary contributions — you don’t want to pay the wages from the Cossacks, you are not sent there by force, as you used to be in the pioneers or the Komsomol, or all the volunteers . In any case, in the Kuban Cossack army.

[225chay]

Quote: Standard Oil

I still suggest ... go to Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, let the Cossacks there ... keep order in the streets or whatever they can do there, because as for me it's ordinary loafers.

For the gentlemen of the oil business kings, whom do you belong to? Judging by your avatar, you naturally need to drive people who are not your thinkers somewhere in Africa or Honduras ...
And it’s even better to pit peoples together, which you are successfully doing around the world, and here the Slavs and Muslims continue to quietly pull away the remaining property of all sorts of wealth and wealth from the bowels, which generally should belong to the people.

[alexeyal]

The Great Fatherland Party (Air Defense) considers it necessary to create, within the framework of Cossack self-government, full-fledged Cossack troops, included in the system of the Ministry of Defense, and operating in certain border territories.

[Pavlov A.E.]

I’m a Cossack by nature, but I’m against all these mummers in uniform and with medals you want to serve and join the army I myself went through two Chechen campaigns and modesty and decency are not the only thing we don’t medal in.

[Peaceful military]

I myself am a Cossack by gender

Dear Alexander!
By gender you cannot be a Cossack, by gender you RUSSIAN.
The Cossacks were never a nationality, but were an estate. The estates were abolished almost 100 years ago, so the nobles and Cossacks did not.

[tverskoi77]

by type you are RUSSIAN

, and who is Alexander then by nationality?

[Peaceful military]

and who is Alexander then by nationality?

Eugene, it’s not you from me, but ask dear Alexander.

[Cossack23]

Anyone can call himself Russian, but there is no such nation because Russia consists of different tribes and peoples. Cossacks have their own language (Mova, Balakshchina), our own folklore, our own national clothes, therefore we are people. and here you are respected speaking Russian, wear Western (not comfortable) clothes, use the benefits of Western culture and teach me how to live better read the normal story and not the masses

[chief.matros]

Respect and respect for you, Sanya, but the Cossack, dressing the orders of his father or grandfather, does not show everyone his pallows, but that he remembers the deeds of his ancestors and reminds others of them, it's like a monument that you carry on your chest.

[Pablo_K]

Quote: chief.matros

but the Cossack, dressing the orders of his father or grandfather, does not show everyone his pallows, but that he remembers the exploits of his ancestors and reminds others of them is like a monument that you carry on your chest

How would you look at such a Cossack in 1913?

[Ddhal]

"Semyon! You are asleep again. You should have done at least something about the house!"
-Yes, what are you, Anyuta? And suddenly tomorrow there is a war and I am not exhausted .. "

[Vadim Skeptic]

Cossack (Cossacks) is not even a system of moral and spiritual values, and not an army. Cossack - a title that is not transferred by birthright, it can be compared with the personal nobility. But personal nobility is a reward from the emperor. If I settle in the border region, my garden house will be no further than 100 km from the border, I will live at my own expense, and I will carry out border functions with Saiga in my hands - I can rightly call myself a Cossack, if I will interesting. You can defend the border without the title of Cossack. Without any xiv and kinship with citizens, whose ancestors were Cossacks.

[atalef]

Quote: Vadim the Skeptic

If I settle in the border region, my garden will be no further than 100 km from the border, I will live at my own expense, and I will carry out border functions with Saiga in my hands - I can rightly call myself a Cossack,

Or maybe a poacher or a bandit. Who knows what you mean by border functions.

Quote: Vadim the Skeptic

if it will be interesting to me.

Well, yes, depending on the income, such an interest

Quote: Vadim the Skeptic

You can defend the border without the title of Cossack

Well with the title. it will be cooler. especially if Empress Natalia gives it to you

Quote: Vadim the Skeptic

. Without any xiv and kinship with citizens, whose ancestors were Cossacks.

You can of course, and so

[Silkway0026]

I don’t know how it was, only from books. and now, at least those that I come across are idlers, all without exception becoming Cossack warriors, illiterate ... the goblin’s word is so begging for the language. the people laugh both at their show-offs and over their absurd form.

[atalef]

Quote: Silkway0026

I don’t know how it was, only from books. and now, at least those that I come across are idlers, all without exception becoming Cossack warriors, illiterate ... the goblin’s word is so begging for the language. the people laugh both at their show-offs and over their absurd form.

Re-read dog heart
Klim Chugunkin, seniority

[v.lyamkin]

Good article. Regarding the revival of the Cossacks in that historical form: so far it seems more questions than answers. It will probably be nice if you help the Cossacks especially in the Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories, maybe somewhere else in the border regions. Probably, privileges are needed, but they also need responsibilities. In the meantime, an elderly man in glasses in a uniform with a bunch of crosses (he saw such crosses before the revival as state awards) looks more funny in the center of a millionth city, and even with a whip. If not for the whip, then one word is a clown.
Speaking of whips - this is actually a good cold weapon. Question: Why can he wear, but I can’t? Why is he better than me? And somehow at one time the issue of the right to wear checkers was discussed. This does not go into any gates. Even if the Cossacks run on street patrols. At best - batons, and certainly not checkers.
A certificate - this is just from the category of clowning.

[Djozz]

So they also have remake checkers, tin. At first they wore them like sabers, head or hilt forward.

[chief.matros]

and you look carefully on the net, how drafts are worn, and then write-wise guy

[allim]

in checkers tin paper crosses and comedians themselves
but this is what I saw in sebach in Kazakhstan

[chief.matros]

the Cossacks have been trying to rise since 1991, but the center does not allow him to do this, and the uniform (parade patrol is allowed only in the parade, remember army patrols, if you served of course) is the same as it was 100 years ago, and the field uniform is the same as and in the modern army of Russia. About crosses read my reviews above. Well, about financing, since the center, like you, nobody asks to pay, the only thing is, if the state needs additional forces to maintain order, then pay, but it will be necessary to somehow help the Cossack who received an injury, for example, while detaining hooligans . Our valiant police only walks along well-lit streets, and then only until 22-00, and it’s supposed to be at least until 24-00, so that when they, the police, jointly patrol, there’s nothing left to do but go where the crime can occur until the end time

[225chay]

Quote: chief.matros

the Cossacks have been trying to rise since 1991, but the center does not allow him to do this,

I must say honestly not the center, but the enemy power came in the 91st year

[calocha]

This masquerade can go sideways. Armed clowns, someone needs it. Yesterday I wore a tie, and now all my chest is in St. George's crosses.))))

[chief.matros]

this masquerade in crosses can put things in order in the cities of Russia, under normal circumstances, and so listen to the "lezginka" under the windows after midnight

[Vitaly Anisimov]

In general, the Cossacks as such, the main function in the Russian Empire was the protection of borders. These are paramilitary settlements with their own way of life .. privileges and other things. Which in the event of a military threat in a short time were formed into mobile well-armed combat units (the basis of the way of life of the Cossacks was fidelity to the oath and loyalty to the Fatherland loyalty to the king .. which was brought up from childhood as well as possession of weapons and battle tactics ..) All this estate was not formed one century ... Now this is not, alas, only a masquerade! And the idea with the Cossacks was excellent (not in vain during the civilian majority of them remained faithful to the oath and many of them were destroyed alas ..)

[chief.matros]

and it’s true, the oath is taken once.

[3935333]

The Cossack is a professional killer, this is a unit of the times of the empire, the whole of Europe, all of Asia was afraid of the Cossacks, and now the "Cossacks" are a farce !!! to my regret (I was born on the Don), the Cossacks finished their history in the 20s of the last century ...., there were small centers of culture and life in Rostov, Volgograd, Stavropol, Krasnodar, Yaitsk in Kazakhstan, etc. etc., but this is a pitiful semblance of the Cossacks. I really hope that everything will change, and the Cossacks, as part of our people, will nevertheless be reborn to their former state with the support of the government.

[Per se.]

Quote: 3935333

Cossack is a professional killer

Cossack, in the first place was a hard worker, a plowman, only then a warrior, faithful to his homeland. For their service, the Cossacks received land from the government on the condition of local ownership and salaries. Cossack troops in the 1916 year: the Don, Kuban, Orenburg, Transbaikal, Tersk, Siberian, Ural (Yaitsk), Amur, Semirechensk, Astrakhan, Ussuriysk troops, Yenisei Cossacks and the Yakut Cossack Regiment. By the 1910 year, all Cossack troops and regions inhabited by Cossacks were subordinated to the Cossack department of the General Staff of the War Ministry, headed by Ataman of all Cossack troops, which was the heir to the throne.
I admire our ancestors, true Cossacks, but not modern drunkards and idlers, who assign titles and awards to themselves, being able only to drink a shot of vodka from a checker, to shout "love", and to show off with a whip. Without the revival of the warrior-plowman, one cannot speak of the revival of the Cossacks, and these clowns are mummers, only disgrace the proud word "Cossack".

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Per se.

Cossack, first of all was a hard worker, a plowman

And there were only clowns.

[tverskoi77]

And there were only clowns.

In my opinion, it’s more correct to say: Cossacks remained, but there are very few of them, and clowns appeared and there are a lot of them.

[chief.matros]

started for health, and finished for peace, well, you don’t have to judge everyone in one or two drunkards that caught your eye. And about the rewards, read who and how of the descendants can wear them, and more, please do not judge everyone because of a couple of idiots

[ale-x]

Most of the Ural Cossacks died or went to Persia in the 20s. Those who remained lived and were brought up already in the Soviet Union.
The Cossacks did a great deal, the state, but unfortunately there is little left of them except memory and books with photographs.

[chief.matros]

you know how wise people used to say: what is pop, such is parish. If the chieftain (like mine) is normal, then the squad will be normal. And you also know that if in a herd one sheep flew, then it is not necessary to say that the whole herd is lousy.

[DuraLexSedLex.]

I will say for myself and only my opinion)
My father is from the Kuban, his great-grandfathers were real CossacksBut it was he who told me that there are no more Cossacks! descendants, but they NOT COSSACKS. Cossacks were finished off by the Great Patriotic War, and before this dispossession, and even earlier the civil war and the First World War. As my little father, his late grandfather said when, dad was a kid and said that he was KAZAK:
"My father was a Cossack, I am a Cossack son, and you are a crap dog."

So now they’re just mummers clowns, because if they were real Cossacks, they would restore order there a long time and not a single monkey would appear there ... she would not appear there.
And so amused, "The Russian Empire ... and where do they get such ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: DuraLexSedLex.

and before this dispossession

"Decorating". The official term of the time.

[DuraLexSedLex.]

I was afraid to apply it, because I was not sure about the term. Thank you

[klimpopov]

Why are they afraid. And there is. I have the same story as you. I experience the same feelings when I see "these".

[DuraLexSedLex.]

I was afraid that it was not accurate as I recall the word, but that’s why it means or not, I don’t remember, suddenly a gag)

[klimpopov]

The term that was coined by Heinrich Yulievich Witte. And he thought of the tumbling first.

[chief.matros]

unfortunately your father is wrong, not all Cossacks the Patriotic War took, veterans lived in our town, real Cossacks, and came across in the neighboring village. Many did not have time to leave the Soviets, and remained in the USSR, and subsequently fought for it. I remember the neighbor’s grandfather, a Cossack taught, you’ll go there and don’t even think about saying that Kochubey was a good Cossack, and grandfathers can catch a whip. I remember how grandfathers called Cherkessk the station of Batalpashinskaya, many do not know the history of the Cossacks, they don’t understand what is happening, it’s the same as playing a game without knowing the rules, and here people are lost. ... and the youth after the war was mainly raised by Cossacks, they well remembered the laws and foundations, so they raised their children as real Cossacks, so there are still Cossacks in Russia !!!

[klimpopov]

Well, actually Cherkessk used to be Art. Batalpashinsky in honor of the defeat of Batal Pasha. and further down Belomechetskaya (on the opposite bank of the White Mosque) Ust Nevinsky (9aya Cossack crossing) Nevinnomysskaya (10aya Cossack crossing) Barsukovskaya well so on.
http://www.nevchronograph.ru/publications/25
if interesting. In general, I am fascinated by the history of the "line" from school.

[klimpopov]

And Psyzh forgot between Batalpashinka and Belma.

[Cossack23]

The whole farm was destroyed in the Urals, only the black-speaking grandfather remained alive, they were afraid to touch him and the children probably took pity or took refuge in a neighboring village, so the grandfather called these children a Circassian and later his grandmother told me that they had found a chest with Cossack icons and that’s how the memory of the Cossack origin was preserved and another grandmother from the Zaporizhzhya section, but the same story remained an orphan at 12 years old. So, of all four clans merged in me, no one was red-assed, because everyone suffered and I remember all these stories on quiet evenings that were passed on to us so that we would know and remember who we were. I hope that someday we will restore justice, we will cleanse our desecrated name and scolded honor. Eternal memory to our ancestors they experienced a terrible time when the word Cossack could not be pronounced even in a whisper, but they kept it for us so that we knew who we were and were proud of.

[FC SKIF]

When the Belt of the Mother of God was brought to Yekaterinburg, while I stood in line, I watched the Cossacks of the Orenburg Host guarding us. I could not understand everything, what happened to their faces, shoulder straps, uniforms, and only towards evening I realized: THEY ARE REAL. They are not mummers, like others, they do not protect anyone, they do not grind sabers out of springs. The Cossacks in our Empire had privileges, but also responsibilities were good. If you want to be called a Cossack, go serve for 10 years where they say + Orthodoxy, and in return you will be given land, tax benefits, honor and attention. It is clear that many "hereditary Cossacks" will immediately drop out, leaving only worthy ones. Let's call them the Cossacks.

[Lopatov]

Let's be honest to the end: the only uniform that can be worn the real Cossacks are a form of the Russian Army. Everything else is a masquerade.

[chief.matros]

this uniform is more than a hundred years old, as well as the parade marine uniform of the Navy of Russia, the USSR, Russia again, so there is no need to pipet.

[Peaceful military]

Games ala Cossacks-Cossacks actually smell bad. First of all, they are involved in the ideas of the peculiarity, just like with the "proud and ancient" Ukrainian. It is openly and openly declared that the Kakzaki is a nation, and by no means Russian ...
Got game, that we, in the former Estland province / ESSR, appeared Cossacks ... not visiting, but their own, indigenous ...

[Eternal demobilization]

Hot Estonian Cossacks,)))

[Peaceful military]

Colleagues, follow this link and learn not only about the Estonian Cossacks, but also about the Scandinavian, American and even Japanese :
http://journalist.delfi.ee/news/news/kajtselijt-otmetil-nagradami-estonskih-kaza
kov.d? id = 34136533
On this occasion, the Christomatism example from psychiatry is already - the commander of the heavy machine gun division, three times the hero of the world

[Eternal demobilization]

Among them, I would like to mention the guest of the Pokrov festival, the ex-director of Motorola, the US chieftain, Carol Bailey, who delivered a welcoming address at the beginning of the evening.

A pleasant surprise was the video message from the head of the Cossacks of Japan - Baron Yoshihiko Okabe, which testifies to the wide geography of the Cossack movement.

AAAAAAAAAAAAA ... completely killed. The head of the Cossacks of Japan - Baron Yoshihiko Okabe ... ... Mom take me back)))

[chief.matros]

there are no eternal brakes, like some .... Cossacks are free people who initially fled from royal, landlord and lordly lawlessness, if only the history of the Cossacks was revered first, or something, before shit was watered

[chief.matros]

Cossacks served where the fatherland would say, I have a friend with a clearly Lithuanian surname, so their family has been cossacking for more than 250 years. Cossacks are of different nations, so do not be surprised, read my statements above, then maybe you will understand, otherwise you’re tired of typing the same thing.

[Bigfoot_Sev]

it would be better instead of crowds of "reenactors and roleplayers" to finance the b army. and the police.
I somehow do not want, instead of the more or less understood police (which also have their own jokes), the streets were patrolled by men in crosses and axelbands, with incomprehensible powers.

= ^ _ ^ =

[Bigfoot_Sev]

Quote: Peaceful military

Games ala Cossacks-Cossacks actually smell bad. First of all, they are involved in the ideas of the peculiarity, just like with the "proud and ancient" Ukrainian. It is openly and openly declared that the Kakzaki is a nation, and by no means Russian ...
Got game, that we, in the former Estland province / ESSR, appeared Cossacks ... not visiting, but their own, indigenous ...

in Estonia? native Estonian Cossacks?

= ^ _ ^ =

[Peaceful military]

Colleague, follow this link and learn not only about the Estonian Cossacks, but also about the Scandinavian, American and even Japanese
http://journalist.delfi.ee/news/news/kajtselijt-otmetil-nagradami-estonskih-kaza

kov.d? id = 34136533

[Lolocat]

It's funny to you, but I've seen the use of "Cossacks" here and there.


Before the Olympics in Sochi, 60 mobile groups were created to identify illegal migrants, and these were added to strengthen them. According to my observation, they do dirty work for the met - the documents are checked on the streets (for what reason it is not clear), the hooligans are detained and escorted, etc. All the young guys could work quite well somewhere.
And apparently their most victory, along with the measure of Pakhomov, was dispersed by a procession of Hare Krishnas (well, you know, they go down the streets in sheets and sing songs).

[chief.matros]

and they did the right thing, there’s nothing to do any trash in Holy Russia, and these combatants go out to patrol the streets on their day off, after work, and not like some who are only able to pipet. You can’t tear your ass off your sofa on your day off.

[leonardo_1971]

Quote: klimpopov

Hi Sasha! I wonder what such people have in their heads? Cossacks of the brain.
Yes, a day of work has just begun, but with positive. As always, Friday and bustle.
The country must know the heroes in person!

Brezhnev would die from zvisty! Such a beautiful body armor!

[6 sunrise 9]

Cossacks were not only to protect borders, but also to restore order within the empire. For example, the same Chechnya, the point is that the true Cossacks have long been cut out by the Bolsheviks ... with the help of "proud Vainakhs" , by the way they were allowed to come down from the mountains for this .

[chief.matros]

it is correctly said that while fighting, and then putkin they were also allowed to go down from the mountains, so we disentangle, we cannot disentangle

[buser]

For the authorities, the "Cossacks" are, first of all, the "electorate" - so they are playing with them in another razvodilovo ...

[Vadim Skeptic]

Quote: 6Sunrise9

Cossacks were not only to protect borders, but also to restore order within the empire. For example, the same Chechnya, the point is that the true Cossacks have long been cut out by the Bolsheviks ... with the help of "proud Vainakhs" , by the way they were allowed to come down from the mountains for this .

Regarding the unloading, there is a version that the order for the unloading was given by Yakov Sverdlov, a Jewish politician who stuck to the Bolsheviks, with a bunch of relatives in the states and who had a "business" in growing wheat ... On whose plan did he give the order?

[Lopatov]

These are legends; in fact, Trotsky was the initiator. No financial considerations; he just hated them fiercely. Including those who fought on the side of the Reds. It is enough to recall Mironov, whom he destroyed.

[6 sunrise 9]

I do not like to deal with versions ... there may be many versions. But the fact is that the Cossacks were killed hand in hand, the Caucasians and the Bolsheviks are a fact and there is no getting away from it.

[klimpopov]

But how much blood flowed on the Terek when the Chechens at the mercy of the village gave in 1921 seem ...

[Blad_21617]

ksiva strong !!! and who is Emperor Nicholas III?

[Proud.]

Quote: Blad_21617

and who is Emperor Nicholas III?

Likely he, Nikolenka:

[Beech]

That's who it turns out

[alone]

honestly don’t know such an emperor. I know for sure that there was the first and second.

although after reading the first natalia you can guess who the third is Nikolai))

[yuri_dashkin]

Meanwhile, no one thinks about the fact that the Cossacks (like the "Siberians", "Pomors", etc.) are now used, incl. and in order to take apart Russia. And what is the ksiva at the end of the article (EIV Nikolay 3, EIV Natalia) .... Why would it be? And the armament of these people for the state. score? There are a lot of questions. but there are no answers ... It seems to me that this is very serious ((((

[gunnerminer]

Cossacks were an estate. In 1917, all estates were abolished. The militants, drunk, in trousers with stripes, themselves and their loved ones cannot be protected at the household level. What can they do useful for their country. In the village of Kushchevskaya the gang killed and humiliated people during 10 years. Where were these Cossacks? Why didn’t they help their fellow countrymen with just a word? Clowns.

[chief.matros]

everything there and everyone knew about everything, and the cops, and the prosecutors, and the FSB, they present this to us like oh, almost a bolt from the blue, and it all started there not 10 years ago, right now I remember what year it was next to me I walked at a friend’s wedding, and I think in 1994. So already then there were serious things there, so it turns out 20 years, and not 10, as we are told. But the Cossacks, like the whole Russian people, were soldering Yeltsin and the company so that there were no riots, well, whoever stayed, be content with that, but earlier they were mostly good people.

[ramsi]

when they begin to wet the Caucasians without looking back, then we can talk about the Cossacks seriously

[gunnerminer]

Quote: ramsi

when they begin to wet the Caucasians without looking back, then we can talk about the Cossacks seriously

To begin with, let them stop absorbing vodka by oceans and lakes from Baikal! This will already be a step to success.

[chief.matros]

I haven’t been drinking alcohol for a long time, and many of my friends, too, don’t have any health complaints, but you yourself drink less ale and smoke weed.

[chief.matros]

Moscow does not give ..... in one word

[RUSS]

There will be a normal legislative base for the Cossacks, there will be the Cossacks, who they should be, we have high hopes for the future.

[Russ69]

In principle, I do not mind all these Cossack movements. But for this, the Cossacks themselves must restore order within themselves by getting rid of the mummers, deal with the regalia, what can be worn, what is not, and others.

[nurbay]

they don’t have anyone in order .. there are some superiors and super generals. it’s getting ridiculous.

[gunnerminer]

Quote: Russ69

In principle, I do not mind all these Cossack movements. But for this, the Cossacks themselves must restore order within themselves by getting rid of the mummers, deal with the regalia, what can be worn, what is not, and others.

Who will direct? The leadership of these Cossack units is pretty much littered with a criminal element. The most common rank among Cossacks is a major general, not lower. Despite the fact that many have no secondary education and never served. Even their children, the younger draftees age wear esaul shoulder straps.

[Russ69]

Quote: gunnerminer

Who will direct? The leadership of these Cossack units is pretty much littered with a criminal element. The most common rank among Cossacks is a major general, not lower. Despite the fact that many have no secondary education and never served. Even their children, the younger draftees age wear esaul shoulder straps.

Wherever you go everywhere there is crime and corruption
But with this attitude, you don’t have to do anything at all. unless you sit on the priest evenly and on the forums cry forever or fight virtually.

[chief.matros]

and write, my opponent, what do the esaul epaulets look like? Then don’t pipi

[chief.matros]

it’s all spelled out before you, it’s just a wonder for the people, they have no idea either of the Cossacks or of traditions.

[Mikhail3]

The Cossacks, in order not to interfere with history (in which everyone is mixed, and lacks blood and shame and great deeds), are the armed peasantry. Relationship with the state - contractual service. That is, some kind of hereditary contract soldiers. The fundamental difference from the hired power of the rest of the world is RUSSIAN contract soldiers.
That is, "do you speak Russian? Cross yourselves in our circle? And beat the chieftain with your forehead? All, Cossack!" Service under the contract, pay, length of service, land privileges to the Army and the Cossack. BUT. Service exclusively to Russia (more precisely to the Tsar, and through loyalty to him and loyalty to Russia), tasks that do not contradict exclusively the struggle for the Russian land, the Russian faith and the Russian state.
Having lost their service, the Cossacks ceased to be such. What instantly became obvious - in the south of Russia, gangs of specifically trained people literally blossomed, stubbornly calling themselves Cossacks and atamans. Buy the disc "Cossack songs", and there the songs are rubbish and it is dedicated to "Ataman Takomuto, who died in the suburbs in 1998". Cossack songs in honor of the unsuccessful bandit arrow ...
This is a political problem again. How was it before? Why was the Tsar in Russia? So that people know how to act in a difficult situation. So do as the Emperor would have decided. That is, the Cossack, having caught an armed bandit, did not hesitate to open fire on an attempt to resist. As he was legally armed and obliged to rebuff illegal actions. After which the offender surrendered to the police. And if there was no such opportunity (say, in those places where you ride for seven days - you can't get to any "state"), the criminal was tried on the spot and, oh, horror !!, the sentence was carried out.
And now? You never know that an armed criminal has been caught? Maybe he's someone's son? Or a "business partner"? Well, he was drunk and suppressed people for a whole stop. Here is the murderer, here is the instrument of the crime, here are the dead ... Well, how can you, according to modern concepts, grab him, drag him, beat him, God forbid ?! What if he, it's scary to say ... assistant to the deputy ?! Or, even worse, the deputy himself? This Tsar-father in Russia was a conscience, and he helped people to feel that conscience. And here...
Give people weapons and rights - people will be honestly judged by law. Not according to the law that it is crafty written by crafty people, but because the heart is still alive in Russian. While alive .... Power will instantly increase. Immensely stronger ... but people can’t suppress people already drunk. You can’t take away property and land when you want it. And in general it will not work with people as if they should handle dirt ... but why then power? Is it something to work for? Yes, you stupefied ... And we need the Cossacks. And do not in any case!

[nurbay]

mummers better go save Ukraine from terrorists ... you are all looking for a warm place.

[Walker1975]

No, thanks. Here are the same. Well, at least they do not claim the budget for the rights of the armed forces and the police.

[Betahon]

In my enlightened opinion, many years of efforts of various kinds of enemies, hiding behind bureaucratic corrupt robes and modern scientific theories, Orthodoxy, Russia, customs, etc. in the post-revolutionary period, our Slavic, Russian values ​​were devalued! This process is accelerating more and more ... And the constantly arising task of the "Russian idea", as before, consists in a single Russian national government, expressing the interests of the titular nation in the first place! And don't give a damn about tolerance and etiquette when the country is in danger!

[Nevyatoy]

It is necessary to give the land to the Cossacks on the border with China for free and let them protect the border as before in the days of the empire. The point is that having your own land at the border and farming is an additional incentive to protect the borders.

[Mikhail3]

So it used to be. Only the Ural Cossacks, from which the local settlements were formed, did not betray their Tsar, unlike the Don Army. And therefore - they were knocked out clean. Than they really did not like Trotsky Lev Daviditch ...

[Altona]

It looks like "our answer to Chamberlain" ... Correct Caucasians walk in sharp-toed shoes and three-striped sweatpants, brave Cossacks wear caps with a red band or in Kuban caps ... In general, the Cossack estate is already an archaic and historical clownery, including form as it is ... If you declare yourself a military or paramilitary formation, then of course you have to start not with a dashing mustache and a busty Hanna ... We need to create villages with a mono-ethnic population, according to the principle of German villages ... Declare yourself, for example, what is the thread of the Don militia, and write - "Stanovoy settlement of the Don militia" ... Conduct regular patrols, expel illegal shepherds from pastures, monitor the territory and establish elementary order by means of people's self-government ... Wow, yes, really some kind of benefit, maybe ... And so ... folk art, amateur performance ...

[klavyr]

Cossack is not an appearance, it is a state of mind

[a boat]

Quote: nurbay

mummers better go save Ukraine from terrorists ... you are all looking for a warm place.

it’s not necessary in Ukraine, and so these clowns are enough, we ourselves don’t know where to put them! let's collect them all and send Syria!

[kafa]

one word mummers

[RUSS]

A little off topic, I'm sorry, tell me, is there a new info about the new symbolism from Shoigu?

[deman73]

All this Cossacks while the clownery under the guise of which dark personalities are eager for power to the grandmothers and the people’s good, although I know several true Cossacks who cherish the soul for the restoration of the Cossacks

[Fox]

The value of the Cossacks in the 1st century was shown by the village of Kushchevskaya.
They did not protect themselves, others climb to protect.
Leave for ethno-tourists.

[Letnab]

750 000 people in the registered Cossacks! The second army! But where is she? Can not see!
I read posts above, good thoughts such as 10 years of service for the state, and you are a real Cossack .. well, like distributing land along the border with China, such as cultivate the land, and rear-guard.
From some point of view it sounds quite sensible! Indeed, I would like the Cossacks to show themselves, at the same time to cleanse ourselves from any shellup, why not the Cossacks to offer their services to the state both in the border guard and as part of military units in the North Caucasus and along China! But the condition, at least for example 10 years of service, is in these Cossack units! You serve, and call yourself a Cossack, served a full term, and retained the title with any privileges until death .. The child wants to become a hereditary Cossack, we ask for your favor !! But the service is just not in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it is a government agency, and there let ordinary people serve ..
After all, it’s quite real! Are there only people in modern Cossacks who can voluntarily become real Cossacks? Indeed, from the point of view of history, a Cossack, a person is essentially voluntarily carrying out military service on the job, and the house is just on the border!

[gunnerminer]

Primarily. Stop talking all the time about migrants, legal, illegal, Russian citizens, foreigners, etc. It's not about them. All these conversations lead away from the core of the problem, like a bird from a nest.
There is a very difficult, hopeless social background. Especially difficult in dormitory areas of large cities. That is, in small cities, this background, of course, is not better. But there is a millennial sleeping kingdom and there is nothing to compare. And in capitals, life is in full swing and there is even something to compare with, and this comparison is not just annoying, but it leads to frenzy. One is the obvious glamor and joy of life, the other is dirt, obscenity, violence, drunkenness and a complete, hopeless lack of prospects. The greedy police, the corrupt court, fucked up by crazy, crazy money and complete irresponsibility bureaucracy. And all-consuming corruption is the main power vertical on which everything rests, like toys on a Christmas tree. Yes, plus an unscrupulous and arrogant, like a spit in the eye, an official lie.

[Artillerist]

Costumed clowns hung with medals will never protect anyone. They will not help the police or the army. You shouldn't even count on it. I will not deny that in the history of Russia and Ukraine the Cossacks were a significant layer in military and social terms, which "had weight". And now what would the "Cossacks" do, just not to work ......

[smoliackow]

The Cossacks were and will be, although many judging by the comments do not mind writing off the Cossacks as nonexistent, mummers, etc. Why? And they too stand out from the crowd, the crowd indifferent to their homeland, their land, their faith.

[Hon]

Quote: smoliackow

And too they stand out from the crowd

Well, this one really stands out, you will notice this in any crowd, you can immediately see the Cossack

[chief.matros]

and you live with him, if you survive, we will look at you, otherwise the current generation did not serve anyone in the army, only enurezniks could not stand up for themselves, much less for their homeland. And this saber can still cut you in half, despite the fact that he is drunk.

[Hon]

Quote: chief.matros

and you live with him, if you survive, we will look at you, otherwise the current generation did not serve anyone in the army, only enurezniks could not stand up for themselves, much less for their homeland. And this saber can still cut you in half, despite the fact that he is drunk.

Yes, he is not more than 45-50 years old, my father is older, but he does not look like a pig.

Cossacks cannot even stand up for the virginity of their ass.

In the village of Rozhdestvenskaya, Stavropol Territory, a Caucasian is suspected of raping a Cossack. The site of the Investigative Committee for Stavropol reports about the conflict, without naming nationalities. "Komsomolskaya Pravda" claims that this is just the tip of the iceberg: the Cossack was raped for refusing to pay the tribute that the Caucasian family imposed on the entire village.

The official message is scanty: “A criminal case has been initiated against a 28-year-old resident of the village of Rozhdestvenskaya Izobilnensky District, suspected of committing a crime under Part 1 of Article 132 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (violent acts of a sexual nature). According to the investigation, on the evening of June 15 of this year, the suspect being in his household, he demanded the return of the debt from a local resident, and having been refused, he committed violent acts of a sexual nature against him. "

The ataman of the Izobilnensky District Cossack Society Vasily Shaternikov added details in an interview with KP: "Our Cossack Alexander was raped by a 27-year-old Avar who lives in the neighborhood in mid-July. And this is not the first rape."

It is still impossible to detain the rapist: he unexpectedly fell into a hospital in Stavropol with a heart attack, KP claims.

On the eve of the Cossacks of the abundant Cossack society gathered in the village for an unauthorized rally, demanded the police and the investigation to deal with the rape. And for their part, they decided to strengthen the verification of passports, especially among visitors.

The debt, for which the Cossack was raped, is called a tribute in the village of Rozhdestvenskaya: they say that one family here, to which the rapist belongs: "Like the salary of people, they begin to walk around and say," You owe us! "

[Magadan]

First of all, a Cossack is a state of mind. Are there real Cossacks or not, worthy of the memory of Yermak, the chieftain of Serko, the image of Taras Bulba or the personality of Platov - I don’t know. I know one thing - for wearing trinkets and for all these show-offs with a masquerade - I must be punished as the latest scoundrels who defame the memory of my ancestors, by the way, real Cossacks. And whatever one may say, the condition for the Cossack is necessarily the Orthodox faith. There will be faith, traditions will be resurrected.

[Djozz]

Don Emigrant Cossack Choir named after. I respect S. Zharov very much and put him above our Kuban choir.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: smoliackow

The Cossacks were and will be, although many judging by the comments do not mind writing off the Cossacks as nonexistent, mummers, etc. Why? And they too stand out from the crowd, the crowd indifferent to their homeland, their land, their faith.

The Cossacks will definitely be reborn! The present.! I think Cossacks are not external attributes (although this should also be mandatory). Cossack is a state of mind - uncompromising devotion to the Fatherland, Oath of Faith! And not only for benefits, etc. It’s not for nothing that the Cossack villages were quite closed from influences from outside. The Cossack hundreds terrified both the external enemies of Russia and the internal ones.. During the civil war they were defeated not by the force of the Red Army, they were destroyed from the inside and then you know.. They were true and the most devoted patriots of Russia! I respect them for this, even Soviet films could not erase this feeling from me .. I think the Cossacks will be reborn anyway, it will take time .. Russia without the Cossacks is not Russia! (I’m not a Cossack writing right away..)

[Drosselmeyer]

In general, as always, no one wants to work, everyone wants to patrol and protect at the expense of the state. Again they are trying to create some kind of gatherings of drunkard losers with claims to power.

[Drosselmeyer]

In general, as always, no one wants to work, everyone wants to patrol and protect at the expense of the state. Again they are trying to create some kind of gatherings of drunkard losers with claims to power.

[The centurion]

Quote: Aeneas

there were also Jews among the Ukrainian Cossacks

In the first register of the Ural Cossacks, dating back to 1632, it seems, there are the following names: Evreinov, Zhidovin

[svp67]

Quote: Centurion

Evreinov, Zhidovin

If you delve well into the history of ancient Rus', you can find many warriors with the name Jew or patronymic Zhidovich, but the overwhelming majority are Slavs who simply profess Judaism... that was the time. Yes, and Khazaria was a state with the Jewish religion, and after it after the defeat, many people came to us...

[donchepano]

Quote: Centurion

Quote: Aeneas, there were also Jews in the Ukrainian Cossacks. In the first register of the Ural Cossacks, it seems from 1632, there are surnames: Evreinov, Zhidovin

)))) So they probably were)))
in the positions of CHIEF ACCOUNTANTS, Warehouse Managers, Store Managers, Alcohol Dispensers...))

[saag]

Quote: MIKHAN

These were the true and most devoted patriots of Russia! I respect them for this, even Soviet films could not erase this feeling from me .. I think the Cossacks will be reborn anyway, it will take time .. Russia without the Cossacks is not Russia! (I’m not a Cossack writing right away..)

Yes, it’s interesting what my grandfather said when he learned that it wasn’t them who won in the civilian war. They chopped these Cossacks for their sweet souls.

[Yarosvet]

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[Pimply]

Plastuns, 9th Plastun Cossack Division, if I’m not mistaken.

[chief.matros]

Have you seen cops or deputies on the street lately?

[Manul]

Quote: smoliackow

The Cossacks were and will be, although many judging by the comments do not mind writing off the Cossacks as nonexistent, mummers, etc. Why? And they too stand out from the crowd, the crowd indifferent to their homeland, their land, their faith.

I really didn’t expect to find at least one worthy comment! It’s necessary, everyone is shouting “Mummers” foaming at the mouth! Have you seen them in person? I don’t know how it is in Moscow and St. Petersburg, but further to Russia. Sorry, these are not clowns. It’s just you clowns who collect all the funny candy wrappers and show it to each other - just to cackle! And no one even mentioned protecting the forests. Will anyone go into the forest to protect animals from poachers and trees from cutting down and fires? Someone will go out into the street just like that in the evening - if only people returning home late would feel calmer that they did not meet a maniac or a robber who was afraid to come out of the darkness because the street was not deserted. Bling? How do you think about creating discipline in the ranks without regulated uniforms and insignia? Photos of dressed up idiots? I assure you - any Cossack will hang himself for his unkempt uniform. He won’t walk around drunk, and he won’t boast about his Cossacks either. They are reviving the idea. They are at least doing something for the revival of Rus'. They have something to tell their children about - about the Country, about Duty, about Faith and Honor! What will you tell your children? About the fact that everything is bad with us, about the fact that earlier in Soviet times it was better, but now everyone is thieves, and the country will never be strong, well, maybe someday later... and you, son, should not be like thieves. ..because...I don’t know. And what? But just... not like them... Right? That is, all the people who do not drink vodka constantly, take at least some active part, but at the same time joined the Cossacks - they? No guys. These are the real patriots, because they don’t go there for aiguillettes (it’s much more pleasant to look at a beautiful Cossack uniform than at a torn jacket and a quilted jacket), but to help Russia, to believe in themselves for the whole country again. Why do they refuse to plow or fight? How can you say something unfounded for so many people in our country? I wonder if you've ever traveled further than IKEA from the city? A person who comes to a system where there is discipline and a value system always grows spiritually. Remember the pioneers? The Pioneer was embarrassed by his bad deed, because the Pioneer does not act like that. What limit do young people have now? It’s in 2 capitals that they laugh at the Cossacks and go to rappers, party people, sinheads, goths, punks and drug addicts. And they sit until their pants are blistered on the Internet. And in real Russia, which begins somewhere there, normal people have the opportunity to be together and believe to the best. And they use it. And it is quite possible that if it were not for the Cossacks, the authorities would have talked to us differently long ago, and riot police batons would have been on all sides long ago. And only the authorities benefit from covering up their dirty deeds with searches for pedophiles, national strife and attacks on the Cossacks.
You will not be able to fit the Cossacks into your concepts. And it is not necessary. You should be ashamed that you make fun of hundreds of thousands of people, your compatriots, your loved ones who are ready to protect you. These are still your fellow citizens, your potential friends, family, and loved ones. We live in the same country. And if you have your own concepts about Duty and Honor - how they should be presented - you are welcome. Realize it. And the best proof will be action.

[washi]

Quote: Manul

Quote: smoliackow

Why? And they stand out too much from the crowd, a crowd indifferent to their Motherland, their land, their faith.

You will not be able to fit the Cossacks into your concepts. And it is not necessary. You should be ashamed that you make fun of hundreds of thousands of people, your compatriots, your loved ones who are ready to protect you. These are still your fellow citizens, your potential friends, family, and loved ones. We live in the same country. And if you have your own concepts about Duty and Honor - how they should be presented - you are welcome. Realize it. And the best proof will be action.

And how does a COSSACK differ from a RUSSIAN or a KAZAKH, or a YAKUT???????????
Why do you think that the Cossacks are the honor and conscience of our era. I have a different opinion - the Cossacks are still freeloaders, extortionists and robbers, unable to independently defend not only the state, because live far from borders, but also from themselves (complaints about the dominance of Caucasians and Asians)

[atalef]

Quote: Vasya

And how does a COSSACK differ from a RUSSIAN or a KAZAKH, or a YAKUT?

Absolutely nothing, but you understand I really want preferences. Although, to be honest, he is definitely different from a Yakut. The Yakuts did not fight for Hitler, and the Wehrmacht consisted mostly of Cossack units.

Cossack camp (Kosakenlager) - a military organization during the Great Patriotic War that united Cossacks in the Wehrmacht and SS
In total more than 60 tons of military personnel

But the search for YAKUT PARTS OF THE VERMACHT - well, it doesn’t give anything

[holderrr]

You are mistaken, most of the SS and Wehrmacht units were Russian, not Cossacks. Let's remember ROA, RONA, etc.

[Starfish]

“You’re mistaken, most of the SS and Wehrmacht units were Russians, not Cossacks. Let’s remember the ROA, RONA, etc.”

strange, but I always thought that a Cossack was a class, not a nationality

[chief.matros]

So right now, if you want, I’ll quickly write down such a Wikipedia that you are not only oh...sh, but also oh...sh at how many Yakuts served with the Nazis. Actually, a camp or a kosh, whatever you want to call it, is essentially the same thing, this name was invented long before the Second World War

[chief.matros]

did anyone complain to you? Then don't pee. And in the Caucasus, only Russians are condemned for inciting interethnic hatred, and these holy Caucasians are quietly released so as not to aggravate, yes, aggravate the situation. They still join society.

[Kazakh]

THANK GOD WE ARE COSSACKS!!! And here they are discussing mummered Russians who cling to the Cossack people and in all seriousness believe that the Cossacks are like that, so at this time I can say that the Russian is a vodka bear and a balalaika. Oh, how they don’t want to recognize us as a people, because later they will have to answer for the repressions. But we will still revive our people, whether you like it or not.

[washi]

Quote: Kazakh

THANK GOD WE ARE COSSACKS!!! And here they are discussing mummered Russians who cling to the Cossack people and in all seriousness believe that the Cossacks are like that, so at this time I can say that the Russian is a vodka bear and a balalaika. Oh, how they don’t want to recognize us as a people, because later they will have to answer for the repressions. But we will still revive our people, whether you like it or not.

This is Nationalism. You miss Krasnov.
The Cossacks trace their history either to the Khazars (Jews) or to fugitive bandits (depending on historians and textbooks). And they don’t care about faith and the state. The main thing is PERSONAL.

[Cossack23]

Vasya, you are a rare ignoramus. Among the Cossacks, Orthodoxy as a whole appeared earlier than in Rus' (we were still fighting in the horde back then) and Rus' bowed to Perun. That’s why we are Old Believers. For theft from the Cossacks, the death penalty is the death penalty. I just can’t understand where you come from so smart. At least someone would say something smart, otherwise your lies are worse than dogs.

[Starfish]

Your nickname is -Kazakh-, talk about the Cossacks as a separate nation
I have a brain rupture

[saag]

Quote: Manul

They have something to tell their children about - about the Country, about Duty, about Faith and Honor!

Stanitsa Kushchevskaya, please tell us what they did there with Duty and Honor?

Quote: Manul

They are reviving the idea

What's the idea by the way? Is it okay that they were once broken by others, united by a different idea? In this context, how can we present such a result to the younger generation?

[Cossack23]

and you were in that kuschevka, people still don’t understand what kind of crime this is, but after the kuschevka, the Vyselkovsky agricultural holding was squeezed out of the weaver, it’s not hard to guess who, and after Krymsk, somehow strangely everything came back to the weaver, I’m telling you this as a resident of the region. I’m in Krymsk was directly involved, so the order went out throughout the entire army at night, and early in the morning we, already in full force and equipped, flew there to save people, and there I saw your entire vaunted army and the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the police in Krymsk, the Cossacks did everything and we know what the truth is and you are all bullshit for us.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: saag

Quote: MIKHAN

These were the true and most devoted patriots of Russia! I respect them for this, even Soviet films could not erase this feeling from me .. I think the Cossacks will be reborn anyway, it will take time .. Russia without the Cossacks is not Russia! (I’m not a Cossack writing right away..)

Yes, it’s interesting what my grandfather said when he learned that it wasn’t them who won in the civilian war. They chopped these Cossacks for their sweet souls.

I agree with you, my ancestors also cut them down... My dad and the matchmaker (Cossack) argue until they foam at the mouth... who is who? But that’s not the point, I just imagined myself in their place (according to books of memoirs, etc.) I would I also stood faithful to my oath to the death..(it was a terrible time back then..and there was no Internet to understand at least a little bit what was happening to the country and people..) now we can somehow understand from different sources what’s what if we know how to analyze a little (and that’s very difficult..) We are now living in difficult times again.. (naturally for Russia)..

[Grandson of Veteran]

I often walk with my family around the center of Krasnodar. We constantly see police patrols, staffed by Cossacks. They calmly check migrants’ documents and dissuade young people who have become noisy. I emphasize, calmly and correctly. Ask, on what basis? I don’t care which one! Groups of Asian youth behave submissively and I like the feeling of not having to fight off a horde of Gasters alone while protecting my family. Locals often complain in conversations - they are mad, tired (about gasters). I answer - go to Moscow. This is where the p...c is full (I’m there for work)!!! Recently we were traveling from friends on a minibus and four Tajiks came in and made a loud noise in their own way. A Cossack, a man of about 40 years old, is sitting - “hey, dear, either in Russian or in an undertone.” Shut up. Yes, there are just as many migrants in Kuban as in the rest of Russia. But they behave much more quietly than in other regions where I visit.
Personal opinion: Cossack associations should be legally legalized as public non-profit organizations on a voluntary basis. According to the principle of Soviet DND, because they (DND) had a real effect! Adopt the Kuban practice as a “pilot project” and implement it in other regions. There will be an effect; the “children’s law” was also “piloted” in Kuban. PS Despite all his personal dislike for Governor Tkachev, he also has his moments of enlightenment.

[pr 627]

Let's call them not Cossacks, but voluntary police assistants. DND in Soviet style.

[cormorant]

Quote: gunnerminer

In the village of Kushchevskaya, the gang killed and humiliated people for 10 years. Where were these Cossacks? Why didn’t they help their fellow countrymen with at least a word? Clowns.

I wanted to write the same thing, but I got ahead of myself... I completely agree with you. I will add that Kushchevskaya is still one of the most gangster villages in the region. However, bandits and Cossacks do not interfere with each other. With all due respect to the Cossacks of the 18th-19th centuries, what I see now is simply clowning.

[Alexandr0id]

The Cossacks have long had nothing to do with their origin. Even in the Russian Empire, this concept was completely blurred; after all the Cossack wars, uprisings and their suppression, the Cossacks from a subethnic group, related, but still separate from the Great and Little Russians, turned into a kind of amorphous class, where it was possible to include the Buryats and Kalmyks . therefore, the current 7 million Cossacks are quite in the spirit of the past erosion of the Cossacks. but when all 140 million become Cossacks, then this word itself will disappear as unnecessary. therefore, the distribution of incomprehensible shoulder straps, orders, medals and sabers, the formation of Cossack troops throughout the country - everything is quite normal, let it be.

[washi]

The main task of the Cossacks, after they were brought from banditry to civilization, was to protect the borders. They were not taxed for this and were allowed to rob their neighbors.
And where are these Cossacks on the borders?
Where are the Cossack settlements in the Kuril Islands, on the border with Georgia and Estonia.
No, give us the Cossacks in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Give me some money. And the fact that a Cossack is not a descendant of Zaporozhye bandits who robbed and killed their own, but a defender of the fatherland who must serve for an idea (although I’m in vain about this. The Cossacks always had a state and valued profit)
Where are the Don and Kuban Cossacks? Who is complaining that Caucasians occupy the Stavropol region, Krasnodar (why would anyone be surprised if they robbed and killed together)
Kazakhs (Kazakhs) are more honest than these Tsapki, a wild cross between bandits and official power.
Or maybe it’s true that the Kazakhs can be brought in to restore order on the “Cossack” lands. Or Kalmykov. In the battles against Napoleon they showed themselves better than the Cossack squadrons engaged in robbery

[chief.matros]

Moscow does not allow order to be restored in the Caucasus - there will be nowhere to wash the loot, there is such a village on the border with Chechnya, Kursk (emphasis on a), and so they often steal cattle there - in retaliation, they come from a neighboring village, elders come from there, asking to give them back cattle, and in return, give them ours, they didn’t steal it, but the tracks lead towards your village, and figure it out there. A day or two later, the cattle were returned from that side. Then the bandits took hostages in the village, without thinking twice they took hostages from a neighboring village and warned that if something happened to ours, yours would suffer too, after a few days they returned our people. The Cossack women went to the legitimate authorities to ask for weapons for self-defense; they were given several rusty carbines of the 1947 model. and a dozen cartridges. The Cossack women collected money and went to Chechnya to buy weapons from gangs. Soon the militants tried to enter their village again, they were greeted with dignity outside the outskirts, the battle went on for three days, and when everything calmed down, our valiant, then still police, arrived and demanded to hand over their weapons, the Cossacks sent them to hell. This is the story one Cossack man from that village told me in 2003. And you talk about order, that the Cossacks are not capable of anything - it is our government that is not capable of anything, and even if it is capable, it does not want to do anything.

[alexmanager]

There is discord between Cossack and Cossack, the real ones that were already over. Only the mummers remained; I’m generally silent about the Benederites.
In conclusion, about the mummers, I want to say,
PS. Vanity is definitely my favorite sin. (The Devil's Advocate)

[chief.matros]

And you know, Alex, who a manager is, an ordinary trader, so you’re not far from these, with the photo, you left, oh, and for other green pieces of paper, to work as a laborer for another equally alien Russian man, Uncle Sam.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well, it’s too early to rely on the Cossacks of Russia.. There should be something new, but on Cossack principles.. Many of our compatriots are in poverty in the near abroad.. Maybe give them lands on the Russian border without taxes (and weapons) better than former officers with their families.. give they have self-government.. let them live and just don’t touch them... create something like a military settlement.. Teach children for free (military science with the condition of returning to the border) We have many of these past hot spots who have apartments in cities and who are crushing them with their own landscaping and silence... But how to do control? Previously, they kissed the Cross when taking an oath... and fearing God's punishment... and the contempt of the villagers for cowardice or treason... The law alone was there. Those who could not stand it simply left if there were frisky horses...

[Wertynskiy]

And again, in every article about the Cossacks the notorious “registered Cossacks” appear. As far as I know, at one time they accepted the Cossacks according to the following principle:
- Dad, take it to the Cossacks.
- Do you believe in God?
- I believe.
- Cross yourself!
- "Being baptized"
- Go Cossack, you yourself know what kind of kuren!
That's all. And now registered Cossacks suddenly appeared. Like we are Cossacks here, and you are all one well-known substance on a stick. Until they accept the Cossacks according to the old principle, there will be no trust in any new Cossack formations. Cossack - in my opinion - is a state of mind!

[chief.matros]

You young man should read what “registered Cossack” means, and then speak out about it

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Wertynskiy

And again, in every article about the Cossacks the notorious “registered Cossacks” appear. As far as I know, at one time they accepted the Cossacks according to the following principle:
- Dad, take it to the Cossacks.
- Do you believe in God?
- I believe.
- Cross yourself!
- "Being baptized"
- Go Cossack, you yourself know what kind of kuren!
That's all. And now registered Cossacks suddenly appeared. Like we are Cossacks here, and you are all one well-known substance on a stick. Until they accept the Cossacks according to the old principle, there will be no trust in any new Cossack formations. Cossack - in my opinion - is a state of mind!

The state of the soul is a vague concept..alas..!))) The Cossacks as such existed under the Russian Empire..And they were formed from people like S. Razin E. Pugachev Ermak. etc. They were brutally suppressed, but they robbed both their own and others. On the borders of the empire. They loved freedom..! So they were given freedom.. the land and they didn’t touch their nose with one condition: to protect and increase the territory of the Russian Empire (with the support of the state with all resources if they achieve success..) This was before.. Now, mostly Cossacks in large cities are loitering in uniform.. and crosses..But on the Gragitsa there are very few..I think the revival of border paramilitary settlements needs to be revived anew from refugees..former military personnel with families..something needs to be done..(build a small church first..and then.. gather people..)

[corn]

I wanted to write that there are no such thing as “former” officers, but you got carried away by the military.

[chief.matros]

The borders, if you don’t know, are guarded by FSB troops (take a military card or identification card from any soldier or officer and read which structure the border guards belong to), and these Cossacks will not be allowed anywhere. And, by the way, the German heirs to the Russian throne got rid of E. Pugachev, because he was a relative of one of the Russian princes - the legal heir to the Russian throne.

[saag]

Quote: MIKHAN

.something needs to be done

fortress and further in the text :-)

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: saag

Quote: MIKHAN

.something needs to be done

fortress and further in the text :-)

Poked...Well done! heh heh..cannons with cannonballs..etc.)))

[Black]

Quote: Mitek

There is nothing serious about them. Some clowns are walking around in disguise

There is no point in judging by Moscow!
The clowns will “go away”, but we as a people have been and will be.
And there are already a lot of “we can” on the ground. In any case, where there is a strong community, a strong-willed, efficient (not businesslike!!) ataman, there will be no “swamp”, there will be no “Biryulyovism”!
What happened will not happen immediately....it takes time...and understanding, not even of the authorities (they often don’t give a damn!!), the understanding of the average person. It will come to us...necessity will bring it from the villages...

[Hon]

Quote: Chen

There is no point in judging by Moscow!
The clowns will “go away”, but we as a people have been and will be.
And there are already a lot of “we can” on the ground. In any case, where there is a strong community, a strong-willed, efficient (not businesslike!!) ataman, there will be no “swamp”, there will be no “Biryulyovism”!
What happened will not happen immediately....it takes time...and understanding, not even of the authorities (they often don’t give a damn!!), the understanding of the average person. It will come to us...necessity will bring it from the villages...

Will there be Kushchevka?

[chief.matros]

So there is only one Kushchevka in the Krasnodar region, but how many such Kushchevkas are there in Moscow, huh?

[corn]

A person who serves will serve until the end, i.e. leaves the service for health reasons (he will leave, but the articles may be different) and is unlikely to be able, even if he wanted, to bring any tangible benefit to the border. For all other reasons for dismissal, the dismissed person, as a rule, will not go to serve at the border (well, if only with Belarus, Ukraine, etc.).
Just as you cannot enter the same river twice, you cannot revive the Cossacks in the form in which they existed under the Russian Empire; for this it is necessary to revive the class division of society.
You can create something at the present time and call it Cossacks, but it will have the same relation to that Cossacks as advertising on TV about the reliability of Sberbank ... we have existed since 18.. (at the same time, there are no obligations since 18.. answer).

[chief.matros]

some things will have to be remade in a modern way, you can’t get into a tank with a saber.

[sprut]

My proposal: the Cossacks are a separate police unit responsible for the moral and ethical education of the population. These guys can handle it much better...

[chief.matros]

and sometimes you have to deal with this too, but when we had a squad in the town, for some reason people didn’t call the cops, but the Cossacks, they knew that they would come to the rescue faster than the cops and would help in any way they could.

[pr 627]

Something is not heard about the Cossacks of Yaitsky, Orenburg, Siberian, Transbaikal, Amur about the organization of villages on these problematic borders where I don’t want land, water, forests, freedom. There are also smugglers, terrorists, Islamic radicals, and drug trafficking specialists there. But the Cossack women don’t want to serve there for the benefit of Mother Russia, plow the land, fell wood, fish, set up apiaries, and if you need to ride a horse. They want to be Moscow Cossacks, Kaliningrad, Murmansk, Chukotka and all sorts of different ones. And what is the reason? As a rule, these are mainly former or current civil servants, military officers, cops, officials, Ministry of Emergency Situations, etc. etc. The civil service made them slackers and they will not become anything else. They understand service as mercenaries for money or the opportunity to act arbitrarily without punishment. In a word, they are dressed up.

[ivshubarin]

No matter how unheard of it is, we already have two Amur Cossack troops. They are fighting which one is real

[pr 627]

Do these troops have a village? Well, closer to China, so that they can serve as smugglers, pluck the land, eat their Cossack will in three throats. Or everyone wants to Cossack in Vladik, Khaborovsk, Komsomolsk where it is warmer, more satisfying, safer.

[pr 627]

Yes, judging by the minuses, I hit the nail on the head, he’s a slacker everywhere.

[Tyumen]

What's the point of revival? If you want to restore order, go to the cops. Or into the army.
And the feeling that to them the form and attributes are more important than the stated deeds. Or attracts
lack of discipline?

[chief.matros]

The cops' "indicators" are when they gave a plan to detain a certain number of people under a certain criminal article, so they create these articles for everyone, but in the Cossacks everything is according to the law, honor and conscience, so go to the police yourself and create chaos

[Tyumen]

By what law? Or does each class have its own law? In Tyumen
These clowns are gone, and there is order on the street, there are enough cops. How to judge by honor
and conscience? Where are the frames? So there’s no escape from the armed forces,
So also give weapons to those who are nostalgic?

[catapractic]

There are few Cossacks, but there are a lot of mummered cattle

[Manul]

Quote: Tyumen

What's the point of revival? If you want to restore order, go to the cops. Or into the army.
And the feeling that to them the form and attributes are more important than the stated deeds. Or attracts
lack of discipline?

The Cossacks are a people's movement. Without any advertising or subsidies, the Cossacks are trying to restore order inside the country. Which no cops, much less the army, are going to restore. Are you going to serve in the police yourself to make society better? And contract soldiers in the army for the same? ?? No! Because the generals and bureaucrats run everything, and you won’t do anything yourself, but on their orders you will shoot at the people! And the people have only one voice that can be heard in Belokamennaya - the common one. I say again - only the authorities benefit from denigrating the Cossacks .For you and me (if we want a good life in Rus', the Cossacks are friends and brothers. And I can even admit that the article was paid for. Although it’s unlikely - there are more fools in the country than scoundrels.

[EdwardTich68]

“Cossacks” are simply funny, unemployed, sawing off “full St. George’s” for themselves, in garages, with files. Worthy followers of Benny Hill. I respect them.

[EdwardTich68]

Or maybe they know how to throw these “grandfather’s” orders like Japanese “ninjas”? Then everything is clear, I will
out of his stupidity he underestimated “Khryas” and hit the Chechen in the eye and then strangle him with his head.

[AX]

The Cossacks - sadly enough, are already an anachronism...

[chief.matros]

first read the history of the Cossacks and don’t forget about traditions, then bleep

[AX]

The Cossack minus...

[cormorant]

Quote: chief.matros

The cops' "indicators" are when they gave a plan to detain a certain number of people under a certain criminal article, so they create these articles for everyone, but in the Cossacks everything is according to the law, honor and conscience, so go to the police yourself and create chaos

I don't agree. A new police station was opened in my village, and it immediately became really calmer. I see, or rather I saw a district police officer who is constantly looking for something, asking questions. What kind of new people are you wondering? He's looking for a missing bicycle. He's checking the registration... In short, the guy is working. What about the Cossacks, where are they? In neighboring Kushchevskaya it’s scary to drive a car in the evening, but it’s better not to go on foot without sports training (boxing, running). If a bandit breaks into your house, who will you call, the Cossacks?

[Skyf]

At this time, the Cossacks are a rabble of mummers who, at best, do nothing, and at worst, engage in typical racketeering.

[Skyf]

[quote=Manul][quote=Tyumenets]
The Cossacks are a people's movement. Without any advertising or subsidies, the Cossacks within the country are trying to restore order. [/quote] This is the visible “people's” movement in the Cossack village of Kushchevskaya.
The Cossacks are now a rabble of mummers.

[AX]

Clowns in one word...Trying to duplicate state institutions, etc. Social rudiment...

[askaz]

To everyone who opposes the Cossacks in principle (not against the mummers, but against everyone in general):

The Cossacks must be reborn, and they will be reborn. The descendants of the Cossacks remember who they are and where they come from.
They say that Cossack is not a nationality. But that's what those who don't even know their own say.
roots, but still tries to liken everyone else to himself. The Cossacks lived in their own separate way of life, with their own laws and traditions, different from the traditions of the peasantry. A community has formed
having its own cultural and even ethnic characteristics. What's the problem? Are these people not like you?
Are you denying them the right to self-determination? Do you want to unify everyone? It won't work out because you
for them you are not an authority in moral and cultural terms.

The more the Cossacks declare themselves, the more the authorities will pay attention to them.

[a boat]

Quote: Drosselmeyer

In general, as always, no one wants to work, everyone wants to patrol and protect at the expense of the state. Again they are trying to create some kind of gatherings of drunkard losers with claims to power.

you are 100% right!

[Cossack23]

the mummers are those communists who, in Soviet times, didn’t kill the Cossacks, decided to do something dirty right now (as much as you can think of) so you good gentlemen, look closely to see if your relatives were sent there. In our village, we somehow dispersed these mummers, so I have a rich one experience in terms of determining who is a Cossack and who is an exile. what is happening in the army now makes me very happy; new strong-willed warriors are coming in search of the truth and find it only in the Cossacks, and there is no one else to trust but themselves.

[Maximus-xnumx]

Strong-willed people who seek the truth! These are definitely Cossacks.

[Maximus-xnumx]

Quote: AX

Clowns in one word...Trying to duplicate state institutions, etc. Social rudiment

Agree ! I can also put on my grandfather’s uniform and medals. And what ??? Am I going to become a hero or something??? A Cossack, in my opinion, is a freedom-loving person who lived on the border of Russia, lived freely, did not pay taxes, but for this he protected Russia. Now, as I understand it, the Cossacks themselves must be protected...
No, don’t think, I’m not against real people of duty who will DO WORK. I’m against the mummers with St. George’s crosses (for what merit???), who often appear on TV, remembering how their great-grandfathers, Eh, performed feats. . Yes, maybe their great-grandfathers were Cossacks, fathers and sons of Cossacks, but who are these types? Horseradish...

[darksoul]

I gave all the gentlemen of the first comments a minus. Cossacks are clowns, Cossacks are mummers,...they don’t do anything. The gentlemen Cossacks defended the southern borders of our homeland, the Cossacks came to the Don and Kuban and founded cities. Cossacks, my father, including in the 90s in Krasnodar, organized squads, caught black people, went... and took them to the cops, which released them back. Another thing is who the current generation is I can’t say.....but I want to believe that everything is not in vain...and most...it’s easy of course, well done

[Cormorants]

The Cossacks are great fellows, the only class left from the Russian Empire. They preserve traditions, well done guys.

[Wagr2017]

I have nothing against the Cossacks. Only this is not a nationality, not a tribe, and not a “people”. As I understand it, it was an estate. And there was also the nobility, the common class, the peasantry... And who are they trying to present themselves with now? Or why are the authorities flirting with them? Maybe preparations are being made to introduce the nobility?
The way the 100th anniversary of the revolution was “celebrated” in silence, deafly, in complete ignorance and oblivion, says a lot. This cannot happen in any self-respecting state. What's this? Is the counter-revolution celebrating victory after 100 years? Maybe the “boyar” Duma will elect us a Tsar-Father again?
Awww! People! wake up!
Trotsky created the Red Army with the minds and hands of “damned tsarist generals and officers.” And more of them served in the Red Army than there were all the White Guards.
Then everyone was fed up with the tsarist regime and all that rotten aristocracy. So they “multiplied” them by zero. Yes, so high quality - that now not a single “noble” face is trying to “return” something to itself.
Are there any analogies?
And the Cossacks...
They are of course HEROES!
It’s just that during the Civil War, they dreamed of creating an independent Don state.
And during the Great Patriotic War, fascist Cossack divisions burned and slaughtered partisans in Belarus and Yugoslavia. And they did it efficiently. not for fear - for conscience.
Why not revive the Novgorod Ushkuiniki? They also fought vigorously against foreign evil spirits.
Why do the Cossacks suddenly have some kind of surplus? If they are Russian, then they are Russian. There’s no point in showing off that they live in the Rostov and Krasnodar regions.
Or maybe we’ll remember the principalities? Then there will be Ryazan-Russians, Moscow-Russians, Tver Russians, Pomors-Russians... and so on ad infinitum.
My opinion is that it’s all window dressing! Now, if they stood a cordon on the borders, and again “pacified” the Caucasus so that no plague would creep into Russia from there, then they would bow to the ground.
And the funny thing is that no matter how much I travel through Kuban, Taman, and other “Cossack” villages and regions, I don’t see any Cossacks there at point-blank range. Maybe they are sitting in "smoking rooms"? Or maybe “they are writing a letter to the Turkish Sultan”?

RUSSIA! Homeland of ELEPHANTS!