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Cossacks are coming ...

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One of the most controversial, let's say, socio-political phenomena of modern Russia, is the Cossacks. It is, it tries by all means to declare itself, but at the same time, the Cossacks' activity, in fact, has not been let down a full-fledged legal basis, the essence of the movement has not been determined.


If you believe recently published statistics, in our country there are at least 7 million people who consider themselves representatives of the Cossacks. 7 million is about 5% of the total population of the country. At the same time, a significant percentage of all other Russian citizens belong to the activities of the Cossacks, to put it mildly, with confusion. Use of uniform, epaulet, rewards, weapons people who in Soviet times could hold high posts in district committees and regional committees, and today cheerfully shouting “Lubo!” in Cossack circles, suggest a lack of cossacks at the thought of the “political credo” of the representatives of the modern Cossacks, and make many of the mentioned seven million have real Cossack roots, and are not, as they say "mummers".

Ambiguous interpretations are also caused by the political work that is being conducted today by Cossack associations, many of which, it should be noted, are also in sharp conflict with each other.

Against the background of this ambiguity, state work is carried out (within the Council on Cossack Affairs under the President), aimed at determining who exactly has the right to declare himself a Cossack, and what responsibilities Cossack associations can perform if they suddenly want to directly serve to the state.

Recently, the aforementioned Council on Cossack Affairs (KFOR) under the President of Russia approved a set of measures within the framework of the development strategy of the Russian Cossacks up to 2020. More specifically, the first stage of this strategy has been approved, which should be implemented in 2014-2015. This was stated by the head of KFOR, Alexander Beglov, who, let's say, at the same time holds the post of plenipotentiary representative of the president of the country in the Central Federal District. The strategy itself was approved last year by Vladimir Putin. The main goal of the strategy is to consolidate the Russian Cossacks, as well as to strengthen the role of the Cossacks in solving municipal and state tasks. The state bodies decided that it would be possible to finance the Cossack service if it would be of benefit to the state. At the same time, financing will affect only those Cossacks, which are called register-listed - listed in a special register performing certain tasks in the civil service. Those, as it turned out, are also quite a few - about 750 thousand people.

Representatives of the Council for the Cossacks claim that the first stage of the implementation of the strategy will take place without the use of budgetary funds. During this stage, it is planned to assign such services as patrolling the streets of cities (which, by the way, was used not long ago as an experiment) for protecting Cossacks, protecting forests from illegal logging, accidental or targeted arsons. Registered Cossacks will be able to perform duties in the framework of the activities of the Armed Forces of the country, to serve on the state border in special Cossack units. It is planned to increase the number of Cadet Cossack corps and in the near future to open the first Cossack university in Moscow. As a possible base is called capital University. Razumovsky. In addition, the Cossacks will be engaged (frankly, in an incomprehensible while) the protection of the animal world, and will also participate in elections at various levels. The range of tasks that will be able to solve the Cossacks, apparently, is very wide, and the plans - a lot.

Cossacks are coming ...


If we talk about the military service of the Cossacks, then today there are several Cossack units in the Russian army, including the 247-th Cossack-assault regiment stationed in the Stavropol Territory, which the President assigned to the Guards last summer. The 247 th DShKP was formed on the basis of the 21-th separate DSB. For the first time the word "Cossack" in the name of the brigade appeared in 1994 year, a couple of years after it was relocated to Stavropol.



Explaining how public service can be performed without budget financing, Alexander Beglov revealed the secret. In fact, there will be funding, but it will go within the framework of the existing federal targeted programs. According to him, just each of the activities of the Cossacks will try to include in a particular program, but additional funds for the implementation of the "Cossack project" before 2015 year will not be needed. But then ... But this is, as they say, another история... Obviously, the Cossacks will ask for money from the state in order to develop, let's say, their presence in state work. For this, in particular, the whole “Cossack party” is already working, having managed to register with the Ministry of Justice.

Plans aimed at rectifying the situation with “Cossack non-demand” on the one hand look quite reasonable. If we say, for example, that the Cossacks are entrusted with patrolling the streets, then with a reasonable approach there is nothing reprehensible here. Well, what's wrong if the same Cossacks will effectively monitor the rule of law? Another question is how effectively they will be monitored and how effectively they will interact with police structures. Does it not turn out that everyone will pull the blanket over himself, in fact, being engaged not in guarding the rule of law, but in clarifying the relationship and determining who in this case has more authority.

Speaking of powers ... Talking and decision-making within the Council under the President is one thing, but the real, legally verified implementation of these decisions in the form of relevant laws is quite another. How legitimate will the Cossacks be when they let them patrol the streets or, for example, protect forests from “black” lumberjacks? Is it possible that the offenders will send the Cossacks, trying to convince them or detain them, “to three merry ones” through one? ..

In general, besides decisions within the Council, corresponding changes in Russian legislation are also needed. But here again, there may be a hitch. The fact is that with the possible appearance of a corresponding legal base, with the registration of special privileges, and also with the beginning of the process of state financing of the Cossacks, “additional Cossacks” can also show up - people far from the class traditions, but with the mind close to the idea of ​​reaching the benefits "Cossack fiefdom". If such benefits are found, then random people among modern Cossacks will increase. Even now there are a lot of them, and how many more will there be? .. Therefore, before embodying the ideas of KFOR, Cossacks would need to pay serious attention to their ranks for the purpose of separating, say, flies from cutlets. And while the situation looks more like this: I bought trousers with stripes on the market, a whip and a medal “From Sonya’s Cossacks with Love” - everything - at least, hears ...

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  1. Andreitas
    Andreitas 18 October 2013 08: 52 New
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    There is something sensible in the affairs of the Cossacks. But somehow it’s all frivolous anyway. It smacks of some kind of eccentricity, clowning. Especially when you see their incomprehensible titles, awards and other trinkets. Inexplicable by whom and for what issued.
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 18 October 2013 09: 05 New
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      Quote: Andreitas
      There is something sensible in the affairs of the Cossacks. But somehow it’s all frivolous anyway. It smacks of some kind of eccentricity, clowning. Especially when you see their incomprehensible titles, awards and other trinkets. Inexplicable by whom and for what issued.

      There is nothing serious about them. Some clowns are mummers, they hung awards on themselves bought on the market or self-made and under the pretext that they "Cossacks" squeeze out funding or other benefits. I was in the bathhouse with the company and there was the "chieftain" ... in short, all the fuss for federal money and control over agricultural markets. In the Cossacks write any drunk to increase the number of "troops". I was offered to join, they promised me the rank of foreman of some kind, madal and something else)) I refused. Real Cossacks ended in the 20s. There were separate units in the Second World War, but as an estate, as a kind of class, the Cossacks no longer exist. There are, at best, something like military history clubs. No more. And if it had been otherwise, they would not have been screwed up in their asses for their debts and in the villages the blacks were afraid to say every word.
      1. avt
        avt 18 October 2013 10: 46 New
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        Quote: Mitek
        There is nothing serious about them. Some clowns are mummers, they hung awards on themselves bought on the market or self-made and under the pretext that they "Cossacks" squeeze out funding or other benefits.

        good In Moscow, the same "bruises" at the Belarusian railway station were prancing around not so long ago, and Borovoy signed them in the 90s to the Dorogomilovsky market, but about the chopov's mummers that they swarm around churches and stand in the Danilov Monastery, I don't even want to talk. The priests themselves are rushing to the cops' trough on the wave of dissatisfaction with the activities of snickering policemen who have forgotten the concept of duty and honor.
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      2. Walker1975
        Walker1975 18 October 2013 14: 43 New
        +5
        Exactly. You can assign the title of "Cossack" active military unit as a tribute to tradition. Like the Americans have armored parts called "cavalry". But roleplaying clubs to assign real military ranks without length of service, without service ... There are no words.
      3. goldfinger
        goldfinger 18 October 2013 14: 50 New
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        Quote: Mitek
        . Real Cossacks ended in the 20s. There were separate units in the Second World War,

        Another forgotten date in our history. In 1945, from May 28 to June 5, tragic events took place in Austria: the repatriation of Cossacks in the USSR. The exact number of people has not yet been established: 55 - 60 thousand. The fact is that many Cossacks were family, and their wives and children were considered inaccurate.
        It is necessary to remind readers of the background. During the Second World War, about 7 million of its citizens were outside the USSR. They can be divided into 3 groups: hijacked to work in Germany (“Ostarbeiters”), prisoners of war and switched to the side of German troops. During the war, there were from 1,3 to 1,5 million people. At the Yalta Conference (February 4-11, 1945) the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition decided to return all its citizens to the USSR. If the majority of prisoners of war and workers sought to return to the Soviet Union, it is clear that the "eastern volunteers" (as they were called) did not want to return.
        Among the subjects to be repatriated were first-wave émigrés who had never been Soviet citizens, and even Germans who served in Cossack units. Among the "old emigrants" the most famous were: the former Don Ataman General Pyotr Krasnov, the Cuban Andrei Shkuro (by the way, the knight of the British Empire), the Circassian Sultan Kelech-Girey and many others.
        The repatriation process took place with extraordinary cruelty. Many Cossacks who survived the civil war and collectivization clearly understood the consequences of returning to their homeland. Many tried to escape. So, on June 1, 1945, in the Cossack camp near the city of Lienz, about 700 people were killed while trying to escape. The facts of mass suicides have been documented. Entire families threw into the stormy river Drava.

        Information about this has long remained banned not only in our country, but also abroad. Talking and writing about it was not accepted. Only in the late 1970s. the descendant of the famous writer Leo Tolstoy Nikolai Tolstoy-Miloslavsky attempted to reveal the details of this unsightly story by publishing a book in English. The fact is that the Allies perfectly understood the essence of the contradictions of the Yalta agreements with the 1929 Geneva Convention. The “principle of form" was legalized in it: a soldier’s citizenship is determined solely by his military uniform, and not by nationality.
        As a result, in 1945 - 1951. Western European countries returned up to 3,5 million people from Europe to the Soviet Union. It is clear that their fate was tragic. So, millions of lives were exchanged in the political game of Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt. The Soviet leader promised to enter the war with Japan, and the Allies "closed their eyes" to the obvious violation of international law.
        History provides an opportunity to once again make sure that momentary political benefits are more important than the lives of many, many people. It would be naive to impose a “only correct” point of view, but any estimates should be based on knowledge of historical material.
        More than half a century has passed. Living witnesses to the bloody tragedy can no longer be found, but in the Austrian Lienz crosses stand in memory of ruined human lives. And the surviving descendants of the Cossacks still come to these places to serve a memorial service. And the ringing of funeral bells floats over the Drava valley ...
        And here are some sort of mummers clowns ...
        The history of the native country is terrible and incomprehensible.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 18 October 2013 16: 01 New
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          Quote: goldfinger
          The history of the native country is terrible and incomprehensible.

          Was it not "tragic" for them to fight against their homeland? Such is the fate of traitors.
          1. chief.matros
            chief.matros 19 October 2013 01: 52 New
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            and the red feathers made them traitors. Imagine, the state gave you land allotment for protecting its borders, naturally earlier, and even now, if you don’t lie on the stove, you could feed your family and sell some more of the crop, hence the accumulation. And as the Reds came with naked w ... y, so immediately dispossess. Come on. Imagine, a cop will come to you tomorrow and take your car for no reason, if you worked as a taxi driver on this car, you would understand what it is. So the Cossack and the horse, and livestock, and the rest of the good in favor of the German spies (Lenin & Company) were taken away, how would you feel in their place when you took away your blood and earned for a receipt, huh?
            1. goldfinger
              goldfinger 19 October 2013 03: 25 New
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              Quote: chief.matros
              and the red feathers made them traitors. Imagine, the state gave you land allotment for protecting its borders, naturally earlier, and even now, if you don’t lie on the stove, you could feed your family and sell some more of the crop, hence the accumulation. And as the Reds came with naked w ... y, so immediately dispossess. Come on.

              Event Canvas
              1919 year
              From the Directive of the Central Committee of the RCP (b) "To all responsible comrades working in the Cossack regions" ... Conduct a mass terror against the rich Cossacks, exterminating them without exception; to carry out a merciless mass terror against all the Cossacks who took any direct or indirect part in the struggle against Soviet power "...
              1919 ... "Freeing" the Cossack lands for the settlers, 30-60 people were shot in the villages per day. In just 6 days, over 400 people were shot in the villages of Kazanskaya and Shumilinskaya. In Vyoshenskaya - 600. So the "decossackization" began ...
              1932 year
              ... the Cossack of the Samburovskaya village of the North Don Region, Burukhin, when the grain procurers arrived at night, “went out on the porch in full full Cossack uniform, with medals and crosses and said:“ Do not see the Soviet regime’s bread from an honest Cossack “” ...
              The uprising of the village of Tikhoretskaya in the Kuban, 1932
              ... The rebels put up a desperate resistance. Every inch of the land was defended by them with extraordinary ferocity ... Despite the lack of weapons, the numerical superiority of the enemy, the large number of wounded and killed and the lack of food and military supplies, the insurgents held out for a total of 12 days and only on the thirteenth day did the battle along the entire line cease ... and at night all against whom there was the slightest suspicion of sympathy for the rebels. There was no mercy to anyone, neither children, nor the elderly, nor women, nor even the seriously ill "...
              1941 year
              ... "In the very first battle I went over to the side of the Germans. He said that I would avenge all my relatives while I was alive. And I took revenge."
              1942 year
              ... "In the summer of 1942, the Germans came with the Cossacks. They began to form a volunteer Cossack regiment. I was the first in the village to volunteer for the 1st Cossack regiment (1st platoon, 1st hundred). I received a mare, a saddle and harness, a saber and a carbine. I took the oath of allegiance to Father Quiet Don ... Father and mother praised and were proud of me "...
              Quotes from different. sources. Who cares, go to any search engine.
              This is a speck of dust of that tragedy, "mixed up" in Russian blood, by a bunch of crazy "builders of world happiness" in 1917, and waves from which will "diverge" for a long time in our history and life. No Putin can drive this bloody drama into the United History Textbook.
              And it is not for us to judge the ashes of the Russian people whom life has forced to make their fateful choice.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 20 October 2013 23: 24 New
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                Quote: goldfinger
                And it is not for us to judge the ashes of the Russian people whom life has forced to make their fateful choice.

                I understand that you from Belarus know better than I am a resident of the Kuban.
            2. ivshubarin
              ivshubarin 19 October 2013 08: 00 New
              +5
              Whatever the "red-fins" did, but Hitler had the goal of destroying the Russians as a nation and helping him under the guise of hardships under Soviet power does not justify a single Russian
              1. volkodav
                volkodav 20 October 2013 06: 02 New
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                how easy it is to talk about it now. But first, to deceive you with everything that you and your father and grandfather earned later with blood and then I'll see how you will love this power
                1. Hon
                  Hon 20 October 2013 11: 59 New
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                  And where does the power? They fought against the Russian people, which means traitors, and deserve only complete destruction.
            3. Beech
              Beech 22 October 2013 00: 47 New
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              Again Krupsky is to blame ... when did you manage to fight and harvest the crop, and what else to sell? It was better to fight, and not to go to meetings ... they did everything themselves, and even fought against their own ... it was necessary to check a German to raise, not women with children ...
        2. avt
          avt 18 October 2013 17: 27 New
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          Quote: goldfinger
          Living witnesses to the bloody tragedy can no longer be found, but in the Austrian Lienz crosses stand in memory of ruined human lives. And the surviving descendants of the Cossacks still come to these places to serve a memorial service. And the ringing of funeral bells floats over the Drava valley ...

          Is it about the under-essists? Well, who took the oath of allegiance to Hitler in the 43rd, but the Germans still did not write them down in the SS and kept them in the lackeys with the SS Panzer Corps. "They distinguished themselves" mainly as punishers, in Italy and Yugoslavia, well, apart from the USSR. So what? A monument to them? Or repenting that our grandfathers took Berlin !? So this is not a date in our history and no fucking grief about Hitler's lackeys. Maybe even to the Ukrainian policemen that people were burned alive in Belarus, in Katyn in particular, you will put up worship crosses ???
          1. goldfinger
            goldfinger 18 October 2013 19: 16 New
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            Quote: avt
            Maybe even the Ukrainian policemen that they burned people alive in Belarus, in Katyn in particular, will you put bow crosses ???

            The history of the native country is terrible and incomprehensible. Here are my words. Where is sedition here !? In a country where, since 1917. everything is mixed up, brother to brother, son to father. It is necessary to know the history, and not just the "Short Course of the AUCPB", I think so. Therefore, I brought this historical fact. I thought the Inquisition in Russia was over. Leave your quote with you. There is no need to casually insult people you don't know.
            1. avt
              avt 18 October 2013 20: 56 New
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              Quote: goldfinger
              The history of the native country is terrible and incomprehensible.

              Which one? And which one? I’m here punishers on the side of the Germans who fought even in Cossack popes, I do not rank in the history of my country.
              Quote: goldfinger
              I thought the Inquisition in Russia was over

              The amnesia began liberoid, black for white and vice versa give out and still demand to be touched and beat in a hysterical repentance. I don’t know about you, but for me Shkuro, Krasnov, von Panwitz and others like them and under their command are enemies, Nazi lackeys, like those Ukrainian and Baltic policemen, and the Kaminsky brigade from the Bryansk region, and there will be no other story. and facts, before sticking a shortcut about the course of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks in the manner of denunciation, I recommend reading for yourself, about the glorious combat "path of the Cossack formations so dear to your heart, which even the Germans called foreigners and kept at a distance, neither in the SS nor in The Wehrmacht was not enrolled. And if they decided to mention the White Guards, there are more than enough examples of more dignified behavior, starting with Denikin.
              1. chief.matros
                chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 04 New
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                But what do you see only bad in the Cossacks? And how many of them were on our part, hundreds of heroes.
                1. ivshubarin
                  ivshubarin 19 October 2013 08: 05 New
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                  Why only the bad, the growth of the Russian Empire in Siberia and the Far East is the merit of the Cossacks
              2. volkodav
                volkodav 20 October 2013 06: 07 New
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                Yes, you are probably proud of the grandfather and great-grandfather who were in the food detachments, or they may have served Trotsky’s personal guard, then your reaction is clear
            2. revnagan
              revnagan 19 October 2013 16: 12 New
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              Quote: goldfinger
              There is no need, while walking, to insult people you do not know.

              Personally, we do not know, but what does it say there? "By their deeds you will recognize them." Something like that. And their deeds were terrible.
              1. volkodav
                volkodav 20 October 2013 06: 08 New
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                and the Bolsheviks are angels in the flesh, it’s not they who poisoned their people with fighting gases
          2. chief.matros
            chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 00 New
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            Dr. Goebbels then many brains twisted so that oo-yo. And traitors, and now no less, the entire Kremlin and the State Duma, you can put and machine a machine gun right at the Kremlin wall, so as not to travel far. And here is another interesting fact: during the first Chechen company in the consolidated Cossack regiment there was not one killed, only seven wounded, and all because they refused to give passages to the Czechs and did not sell weapons, so our fathers-commanders quickly the rear was thrown so that the money didn’t interfere with laundering, but you’re ready to see the bad, you just don’t know either the Cossacks or their history, by the way in 1968 there was an uprising in the city of Novocherkassk against the Soviet regime, but why delve into the net, and you nobody even knows about it, clowns.
        3. Svyatoslavovich
          Svyatoslavovich 19 October 2013 01: 17 New
          -4
          Is Tolstoy-Miloslavsky not one of the pseudonyms of Suzorov-Rezun?
        4. chief.matros
          chief.matros 19 October 2013 01: 44 New
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          he painted the prehistory well, but the ending is not very good. Firstly, you are a clown yourself, and secondly, where is she your native country? The Red Cossacks exterminated by the thousands, even under Art. Kushchevskaya (the episode ended about her now on TV is in progress), the cavalry division was thrown with bare drafts at the erupting German tanks, and this is not an isolated case, grandmothers said that of those German tankmen, after the battle more than half were taken away from the fool, they went crazy from the blood and meat, the rivulet flowed nearby, so it was completely flooded with blood. And the true story is still hidden from us.
          1. Denis
            Denis 19 October 2013 13: 27 New
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            Quote: chief.matros
            the cavalry division was thrown with bare sabers at the erupted German tanks, and this is not an isolated case, grandmothers said
            By the nonsense of the Poles he surpassed noble specialists in this matter
            The same clown mummer, you know about cavalry only from comics
            In WWII, she was rather an analogue of motorized infantry, mobile, dashing attacks were, only mostly in the movies
          2. ivshubarin
            ivshubarin 19 October 2013 14: 53 New
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            Such a story was with the Polish cavalry
            1. Denis
              Denis 20 October 2013 04: 51 New
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              Quote: ivshubarin
              Such a story was with the Polish cavalry
              About their ability, it is said above that in order for the enemy to succeed, it must be tied to the event, and further, the more monstrous the boxes, the more they will believe in it
              The attack of the Polish cavalry on tanks is an alleged episode of World War II, according to which the Polish lancers with knives in horseback ranged against German armored vehicles. According to historians, this episode (about a targeted attack by cavalrymen on tanks) is a myth, although the story is based on a real battle between Polish and German troops near Kroyants.
              Even the film was shot, it’s like they drove the Germans from Stalingrad with one tank to Berlin, who remembers as a child.
              The battle of Kroyant on September 1, 1939, formed the basis of the story of the cavalry attack. Guderian’s memoirs speak of a cavalry attack on September 3. The historian A. Isaev describes the battle as follows: the Polish 18th Pomeranian Lancers regiment waged a defensive battle in the morning of September 1. In the afternoon, the regiment was ordered to attack the German infantry from the rear and then retreat. The maneuverable detachment of the regiment (the 1st and 2nd squadrons and two platoons of the 3rd and 4th squadrons) was supposed to go to the infantry from the rear, and after the attack, move to the Polish fortifications in the town of Rytel. [2]
              The detachment discovered that the German battalion was located on a halt 300-400 m from the edge of the forest. It was decided to attack using the effect of surprise. The commander of the 18th regiment, Colonel Mastalezh, took part in the attack. According to Isaev, the attack turned out to be successful: cavalrymen chopped off infantry taken by surprise with sabers. However, German armored vehicles appeared from the forest, opening machine-gun fire. One German gun also entered the fray. The Poles were forced to retreat, having suffered heavy losses, half of the riders survived. According to Isaev, after the cavalry attack, three officers were killed (including the regiment commander) and 23 lancers, one officer and about 50 lancers were wounded. [2] In general, according to Isaev, the regiment suffered most of the losses on September 1, 1939 in defensive combat (up to 60% of people, 7 machine guns, 2 anti-tank guns), and not in this attack.
              Thus, Isaev concludes, cavalrymen did not attack the tanks, but they themselves were bombarded by armored vehicles
              Later, the Germans invited military journalists William Shearer and Indro Montanelli and showed the battlefield with the killed cavalrymen, saying that they tried to attack the tanks. Journalists, taking this seriously, distributed this version, which later became very popular.
              Even painted a picture. The tanks are one in one GermanThe picture of the Polish artist Jerzy Kossak “The Battle of Kutno in 1939”. The picture shows how German tankers surrender, rising from the tank’s tower. Cavalrymen armed with sabers, lances and pistols
              1. Denis
                Denis 20 October 2013 05: 00 New
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                for ivshubarin And there was still an attack of clowns
                Another battle involving the Polish cavalry and German armored vehicles took place on September 19, 1939 near Vulka Venglova. This episode is shown in the painting by Andrzej Wajda “Flying” (1959). However, in this battle, German armored vehicles were not the direct target of the attack by the riders, the cavalry tried to get out of the encirclement, making their way through the resting German infantry. However, the Poles were met with dense fire, losing about 100 people killed and 100 wounded
                Подробнее: http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%C0%F2%E0%EA%E0_%EF%EE%EB%FC%F1%EA%EE%E9_%EA%E0%E2%E0%


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                And also the brave lancers of the invaders defeated the Red Army
                The website of the memoirs of Soviet veterans iremember.ru contains the words of the driver of the 139th separate tank battalion Ivan Maslov (was on the T-26 tank) about the entry of the Red Army in the summer of 1939:
                No special battles took place there, but I had to become a witness and participant in repelling the Polish cavalry attack on our tank battalion. And this is not a joke. And when the Polish cavalrymen "with lava" with sabers baldly went to our tanks, we thought that they, these Polish lancers or hussars, were completely fucked up? They were quickly crushed and shot. The Poles threw horses and weapons, and scattered - who were captured by us, and someone ran to their home, to the west. And then the captured Poles told us that before the attack they were told that the Russians had all the plywood tanks and that they did not represent any danger ...
                Enough for a diagnosis ...
      4. 225chay
        225chay 18 October 2013 19: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: Mitek
        Real Cossacks ended in the 20s. There were separate units in the Second World War, but as an estate, as a kind of class, there are no more Cossacks.

        Such Putin does not need. It’s scary for them to have real ones, but to have weapons with them ... That way they can take their heads off
        1. chief.matros
          chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 11 New
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          and we can really blow our heads, therefore, Putin with the company is afraid to give weapons, otherwise even the order in the Caucasus and the country would have been nice. Therefore, he keeps beside him lackeys, and here they can be called clowns, although again not all. Imagine, at the end of the 90s, the beginning of the 2000s, the Moscow protégé railway fluttered led the Kuban Cossack army, the chieftains could not do anything, because Moscow delivered only when the Cossacks delivered an ultimatum to strong maskals, then they removed it, and you Cossacks, Cossacks. Moscow does not give order to restore in the regions !!!
        2. stroporez
          stroporez 20 October 2013 10: 55 New
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          the movement of the Cossacks is a movement of the people towards order. of course "leaders" do not need this. their whole vile essence is aimed at how to spoil and destroy this and other movements of the people ... something like this
      5. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 01: 28 New
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        You yourself are clowns, mummers, the blacks beat you and will beat you, because you have no unity. We went to the Cossack patrols (in Karachay-Cherkessia), even during the first Chechen campaign and from weapons we only had a couple of rez. Dubins and a walkie-talkie for 4 people, and when at night "Lezginka" began to play on the territory entrusted to us, we were not afraid to go and make a remark to everyone present there, as a result everything fell silent and the dancers left the town, because they knew that if they touched someone, they could immediately announce a big gathering (something like a battle alarm) and we would be not four, but more, just like that, and in your streets, in the middle of the night, "Lezginka" is still shouting from the speakers of cars. And drunks and bruises are in all nations, take my word for it, I live in the North Caucasus.
        1. Beech
          Beech 22 October 2013 00: 58 New
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          Good wishes ... and in our apartment there is gas and water supply ... where is your unity? In stripes and orders? Lamps in trainings and a gopot wears ... but where are the orders from?
    2. Evgeniy-111
      Evgeniy-111 18 October 2013 09: 11 New
      +5
      Not even clowning, but operetta!
      So far, apart from colorful parades and choral singing, there is nothing useful from this.
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 18 October 2013 09: 14 New
        +4
        The Georgian army immediately came to mind laughing
        1. chief.matros
          chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 15 New
          0
          if you are so dangerous, come to the Caucasus to live, not to fuck .. in front of youngsters in kindergarten.
      2. klimpopov
        klimpopov 18 October 2013 09: 22 New
        13
        My grandmother likes choral singing. Recently I went to the Kuban Cossack Choir, they say they sing very well ...
      3. atalef
        atalef 18 October 2013 14: 53 New
        16
        Quote: Evgeniy-111
        So far, apart from colorful parades and choral singing, there is nothing useful from this.

        And while the situation looks more like this: I bought pants with stripes on the market, a whip and a medal “From the Cossack Sonya with love” - everything - at least, hung up ...

        I have a good friend, such a millionaire, well, in general, a fairly wealthy person (in Israel 0
        So being somehow at his house, I see he hung out a cloak to ventilate, I tell him. Borya. I certainly understand on long winter evenings in Israel, except there is nothing to warm up in a burka laughingwhy do you need this device
        To which he answers me. all his enterprises in the Kuban and, of course, are covered by their Cossacks, for which he unfastens them and even carries them to Israel for treatment of both their and their relatives, for which he was granted the rank of esaul toli. or so. with the delivery of a hat. checkers and burkas. Here is such a Jew-esaul -Borya. Probably with Kobzon (also like a Cossack) and Rosenbaum - they drive on the same cart laughing
        1. Aeneas
          Aeneas 18 October 2013 17: 05 New
          +1
          the Ukrainian Cossacks included Jews who reached high posts, for example, the clan of the Mirovichi. Essentially they were arrested.
          1. chief.matros
            chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 29 New
            +4
            Remember, you are a dark people, that the one who was born and lived or lived on the Cossack lands for at least 25 years, is considered a Cossack. in the wild, since ancient times it was believed, because the Cossacks were originally runaway people from tsarist and boyar lawlessness, and of all categories. Therefore, in the Cossacks there are Tatars, Balts, Circassians, Circassians, and many more nationalities.
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 19 October 2013 12: 46 New
              0
              Who is dark, and who is not strong ... When the Don Cossack Army began to be given land, water resources, forests from the Russian state ... so it became necessary that whoever wanted to become a Cossack could not become. Sorry, those "old times", less than two centuries. For Russia - a single moment.
              And before that who was able to stick to the circle - that and the Cossack. Now there are no Cossacks and they cannot be. Sons of Cossack and those not, age.
          2. stroporez
            stroporez 20 October 2013 11: 19 New
            -1
            I read somewhere sho on Sich sales kuren zh..sky was .......
        2. avt
          avt 18 October 2013 17: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          Here is such a Jew-esaul -Borya. Probably with Kobzon (also like a Cossack) and Rosenbaum - they are laughing at the same cart

          This is normal, so Rutskoi at the beginning of his "glorious deeds" created a true Communist Party, then he said that he was a Kursk Cossack, when Zhorik Hohenzoller came as a young boy, he announced that he was a hereditary boyar. Well, when he was transferred to agriculture and went to Israel, he said What is it that my mother is Jewish. So the braid turned out to be more abrupt than Kobzon with Rosenbaum - a communist, a Cossack, a boyar, a Jew in one bottle, and even a colonel flew to Foros and for the "liberation" of Gorby a major general received.
        3. chief.matros
          chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 21 New
          0
          but you know why, I don’t remember which one, they give karate, but just for the development of this martial art, you may not be a karate, but you will have it. So in the Cossacks, for the multiplication of the Cossack’s affairs and good deeds for the Cossacks, you can get some kind of thread rank.
      4. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 13 New
        +3
        in your Moscow "Lezginka" yells more often at night than in the Caucasus, and you still mean order ...?
    3. klimpopov
      klimpopov 18 October 2013 09: 17 New
      32
      Ha ha! You look at the certificate at the end of the article))) ah-ha "Colonel Life Guards" Russian Empire)) wassat
      I recently had one Armenian poke a crust on his face, with such pathos, I thought a cop, but some kind of strange cop, the cops don’t behave like that, turned out to be a Cossack. as a major. I say why not the chieftain?)))))

      Okay. Seriously though, this clowniness is wildly annoying (I'm talking about my region, I'm not touching Krasnodar, everything is different there). It is a shame, a shame to my grandfather and great-grandfathers, to mock the Cossacks so much. I laugh through tears when I see these clowns who are running with their "crust".

      We are standing with my father in a large store in the foyer (well, we are waiting for our women and they are looking at some bottles there, and what is more, they are not that necessary), we miss the guard, like a guard, watchman, chevron - military intelligence is resting, "Cossack troops" - Dad approached him (Dad 98 kg at 190 height, 50 years old man and pulls himself up 20 times by the corner behind his head, I’m a maximum of 8) well, and the "Cossack" is so friendly on the shoulder, they say the lad is good, so he almost spat out his lungs, and it can be seen that the Cossacks were from bodunishch. And they have strange "duties" to protect shopping centers. This is just one case.
      These are our "Cossacks". Shame.


      PS Haha, Colonel General of the Life Guard, Russia, I was burnt at work, I’m still wiping coffee from Klava ...)))



      AAAAAA I have not finished reading there yet "the name of the emperor Nicolas III" AAAAAAAAA all hysteria. No, of course I've seen before, but this ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 10: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: klimpopov
        PS Haha, Colonel General of the Life Guard, Russia, I was burnt at work, I’m still wiping coffee from Klava ...)))

        But, but easier. You don’t see Klim, a document signed by Natalia’s Eurasian Communist Party. I'm afraid to decipher these three letters E and B laughing
        Quote: klimpopov

        AAAAAA I have not read there yet "the name of Emperor Nicolas III"

        I understand your work day is over wassat
        Hi wink
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 18 October 2013 10: 30 New
          +9
          Hi Sasha! I wonder what such people have in their heads? Cossacks of the brain.
          Yes, a day of work has just begun, but with positive. As always, Friday and bustle.
          The country must know the heroes in person! soldier
          1. Hon
            Hon 18 October 2013 10: 42 New
            +4
            Here are two more heroes laughing
            1. Hon
              Hon 18 October 2013 11: 15 New
              13
              He is a cossack and in africa a cossack
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 18 October 2013 11: 54 New
                +8
                The photo is not a Cossack, these are Africans from Abkhazia and this is a fact.
              2. Eternal demobilization
                Eternal demobilization 18 October 2013 11: 55 New
                +2
                ))))))))) And I already saw this picture somewhere. In my opinion in Abkhazia there were villages with Africans ...
                1. klimpopov
                  klimpopov 18 October 2013 11: 59 New
                  +2
                  And there is!
                  http://dionisbojko.wordpress.com/%D0%B0%D0%B1%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B
                  8%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80%D1%8B/
            2. Serg 122
              Serg 122 18 October 2013 16: 18 New
              -1
              Obviously EIV Nicholas III himself, with his retinue !!! laughing fellow good
            3. chief.matros
              chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 41 New
              +2
              so at least they don’t water you with shit at home at home, but you look at one of your relatives or acquaintances and save them from the Basurmans hand
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 11: 01 New
            +3
            Quote: klimpopov
            The country must know the heroes in person!

            Listen, and it’s Shaw’s cross with him, he waved his wand as early as the first world war. Who is allowed to wear such orders and where they took him to hang on to this.
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 18 October 2013 11: 16 New
              +2
              Yes, there almost for taking Shipka orders! They are similar from a distance, and when you look at it, it’s forever some kind of commemorative medals and the like ...
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 11: 32 New
                0
                Quote: klimpopov
                They are similar from a distance, and when you look at it, it’s forever some kind of commemorative medals and the like ..

                And I see, the person posted the photo. Listen, and where such crap can be ordered, one of us will soon have a birthday. A cool gift laughing
                1. klimpopov
                  klimpopov 18 October 2013 11: 51 New
                  +3
                  Well, we order in Stavropol (for gifts). I want you to do it. Only a sketch came.
                  Do you want one? With your profile?

                  And here’s another great photo.
                  1. Hon
                    Hon 18 October 2013 12: 51 New
                    +1
                    but I found this one
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 18 October 2013 18: 59 New
                      0
                      Popik, I’m watching a battle. such. By the way, the Ivashov Academy (his articles here are somewhat popular), so this patriot established on his behalf orders and medals with names and types that are almost identical to the state ones (like Kutuzova, Nakhimov. Suvorov, Zhukov, etc.) and distributed the awards with buckets - - for grandmas, of course.
                      1. chief.matros
                        chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 51 New
                        +3
                        Do you know who the kingdom of heaven was, Father Gideon, Metropolitan of Vladikavkaz and Stavropol? An Afghan Air Force or Air Force colonel in reserve passed an Afghan, was wounded several times, and was awarded military awards (he was still a lieutenant in Afghanistan), and how many people went to the churches after Chechnya?
                  2. chief.matros
                    chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 47 New
                    +1
                    so what is it? People of different faiths met at all times.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS 18 October 2013 12: 04 New
              +2
              This is most likely not "George", there are very similar modern Cossack awards, for example, something like "for the revival of the Cossacks," etc., copies of St. George's crosses.
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 18 October 2013 12: 06 New
                0
                She even looked like a Hero of Russia! It seems to have been banned. I can’t find it.
              2. chief.matros
                chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 58 New
                0
                "George" is given only for real military merits and only in wartime, for carrying out actions on foreign territory, and not as a star of the hero of Russia, for a war on the territory of Russia itself. Therefore, all the formalities "For the revival of the Cossacks" are observed there, this is the revival
            3. Vasia kruger
              Vasia kruger 18 October 2013 14: 06 New
              -1
              Cossacks themselves and each other than they do not reward the current .... and still inherit the awards ...
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            4. chief.matros
              chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 44 New
              +1
              orders and medals of ancestors are allowed to be worn according to Cossack laws, first poyuzay in the network, and then go. But print, balabol you are all here
              1. Pablo_K
                Pablo_K 19 October 2013 07: 03 New
                -2
                Quote: chief.matros
                orders and medals of ancestors are allowed to be worn according to Cossack laws, first poyuzay in the network, and then go. But print, balabol you are all here

                about 100 years ago such a descendant of heroes would be treated
                whips
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            1. Denis
              Denis 18 October 2013 17: 42 New
              +2
              Quote: Be proud.
              He is not just a hero, he is a superhero.
          4. chief.matros
            chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 38 New
            0
            ours will come, personally I’ll carve you on the square in Stavropol
            1. Cossack23
              Cossack23 21 October 2013 22: 49 New
              0
              brother, do not argue with them when they don’t understand us, they have a sense of patriotism is determined by money and so it has been for centuries. Do not forget the underdeveloped ETU country was built by Cossacks, at least respect for this. We are the descendants of the Turkic people (Cherkasy, Cossacks), it all defines us as a separate people who faithfully served this country and this country betrayed us and they still say that we are burdened 70 years brought to this state. we are not Cossacks (we obviously don’t want to give their will), but our children are already proudly looking at our history so sho GLORY OF THE KUBAN !!!
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 18 October 2013 10: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: klimpopov
        Ha ha! You look at the certificate at the end of the article))) ah-ha "Colonel Life Guards" Russian Empire)

        Yes, and the name of Emperor Nicholas 3. Who is this? We only had two of them Nikolaev. Or maybe I don’t know what, lagged behind life, have you already chosen the third one?
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 18 October 2013 13: 35 New
          0
          Quote: baltika-18
          Yes, and the name of Emperor Nicholas 3. Who else is this?

          Maybe it's me? But no, I forgot, I'm False Dmitry. laughing
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        2. chief.matros
          chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 04 New
          +1
          Yes, it’s fake, it’s ksiva, there are none in the Cossacks, someone printed it and posted it here on the site, before in the transitions it was possible to order the ksiva of the Russian president
      3. Gari
        Gari 18 October 2013 10: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: klimpopov
        AAAAAA I have not read there yet "the name of Emperor Nicolas III"

        Good afternoon, read inattentively - who issued this ,, serious ,, certificate - EIV Nataliya 1.
        1. Gari
          Gari 18 October 2013 10: 09 New
          +4
          I can supplement the topic and we have them in Armenia, although it sounds fun, but it turns out to be a fact
          The Armenian-Russian Cossack Association was created on January 27, 2009, and there are about 6 Cossacks, both Armenians and Russians.
          Of course everything is connected with history, Mikhail Tarielovich Loris-Melikov is a hereditary Cossack! It was he who organized the Yerevan Cossack Regiment, and then commanded the Cossack formations in the victorious war with Turkey in 1877-1878.
          During this war, the Armenian Cossack Tigran Danielovich Arutinov was promoted to Yesaul and then awarded the Order of St. Anne of the XNUMXst degree and Stanislav of the XNUMXst degree, as well as the St. George arms.
          But now in our time, and where?
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 18 October 2013 13: 36 New
            +3
            Quote: Gari
            I can supplement the topic and we have them in Armenia, although it sounds fun, but it turns out to be a fact

            There are Cossacks in Azerbaijan too. Do not know which are cooler, Armenian, Azerbaijani or Moscow?
            1. Gari
              Gari 18 October 2013 15: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: Uncle
              Do not know which are cooler, Armenian, Azerbaijani or Moscow?

              What's better?
              In appearance?
              And what can a parade be organized on Red Square - all the Cossacks of the CIS and, in general, a worldwide gathering.
              1. Gari
                Gari 18 October 2013 15: 38 New
                +3
                But seriously, I do not know how these ballroom Cossacks, and the real Cossacks patriots helped us during the war in Karabakh, they themselves came to help co-religionists, without any money volunteers. The only thing they asked them to take the selected trophies with them was, of course, they were not allowed to pick up a great fight, there were a lot of trophies, we needed it, there was a shortage, but the Cossacks were not offended, we agreed.
                We in Armenia know if God forbid war, again the real Cossacks brothers Cossacks will come to the rescue.
                1. Uncle
                  Uncle 18 October 2013 17: 27 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Gari
                  real Cossacks patriots helped us during the war in Karabakh

                  In Moscow, these are clowns, all in orders and medals, well, if only one, but they are full of such, some kind of mass psychosis weigh themselves with undeserved rewards. In my opinion, this is simply unworthy.
                  .
                2. chief.matros
                  chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 26 New
                  +1
                  right and sober as I look here only you can speak out !!!
              2. chief.matros
                chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 23 New
                +1
                This is a good idea, only Moscow and the "Muscovites" are afraid of the Cossack movement, and the Mascals' animals too, so they deployed this little article to mock. We put things in order in our town in a month: the people at the discos were mostly sober, there were no drugs (do the maskals need it?), There was order on the streets (do our managers need this?), Thefts and the so-called gop-stop ( Do the cops need it?), the hijacking of vehicles has disappeared altogether (again, do the cops need it?), theft of cattle from the outskirts and thefts from country dachas have stopped almost completely, and you are clowns. So you know who was the first to whine from the order, the cop bosses - they began to cry that their crime had dropped sharply and they could soon be cut down, that's how they dispersed our Cossack squad.
              3. allim
                allim 19 October 2013 20: 04 New
                -1
                Comedians in northern Kazakhstan recalled that there were Cossacks, the so-called Cossacks of the Gorky Line, they got out the natzip tsatskis who themselves did the ataman chose laughter and tears disgrace the idea and no one will come and say PRI D UR K
            2. chief.matros
              chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 13 New
              0
              cooler will be the ones that unfasten you with the first legs
          2. chief.matros
            chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 11 New
            +1
            yeah, with the development of technology, people grow dull. Cossack, it's like ... the wind in the field, like ... the stars in the sky, this is a state of mind (only sober, and you don't need to say that all Cossacks are alcoholics), in short, not everyone is given it, a Cossack is primarily a border guard , watch the film "White Sun of the Desert" and you will understand what a real Cossack he is (the image of Vereshchagin), who is not afraid of anyone and does not take bribes, honest border guard, have you faced such a long time? Only in life, and not in serials about honest cops, prosecutors and border guards.
        2. Valery Neonov
          Valery Neonov 18 October 2013 10: 46 New
          +3
          Probably-Natasha Koroleva, before the scene, Natasha Rip .. laughing
          1. Serg 122
            Serg 122 18 October 2013 16: 22 New
            0
            Natalya 1 ???
      4. AlNick
        AlNick 18 October 2013 10: 04 New
        +2
        It's a pity you can only bet once ...
      5. Vasia kruger
        Vasia kruger 18 October 2013 14: 04 New
        +3
        In vain you laugh. Somewhere in France, in a village, a whole Russian imperial court in exile is sitting, in all seriousness, titles and ranks are favored. Needless to say, these clowns have no relation to the imperial family. But fact is fact.
        Search the Internet for "the Russian imperial court in exile" ... do not choke on coffee, I guarantee laughter for three days.
        1. avt
          avt 18 October 2013 17: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Vasia Kruger
          Somewhere in France, in a village of a whole Russian imperial court in exile

          Come on ! In Moscow, in the 90s, I knew three of them, in Tsarina personally I saw the tsarina of Tsar Romanov — Dalsky with a frying pan — he fry cutlets for the tsar, and I didn’t count the Cossacks’s life there, the whole chief colonel and general major. So direct and wrote - to assign the rank of Colonel General KV, signature - General Major KV
          1. chief.matros
            chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 30 New
            +1
            but all chicha ksiva fsbshnye
          2. allim
            allim 19 October 2013 20: 16 New
            -1
            like in Kazakhstan, to the question of what kind of orders you have, such incomprehensible ones got an answer: YES WE HAVE UNKHRESTY ARE KILLED AND WILL BE KILLED; but the ataman didn’t answer the simple question ATAMAN couldn’t answer, he had to explain the word ataman denotes in Turkic ata men O T E C he still did not understand the full nos. here it is the Cossacks K L OU N N S
      6. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 02: 37 New
        0
        yes it seems to me that the Cossack is mishandled, i.e. ksiva lime. I have a familiar Cossack, so that with a height of 180 and a weight of about 80 kg, the horseshoe bends, and your dad can do that?
    4. SolomonSS
      SolomonSS 18 October 2013 09: 53 New
      +4
      I support, it's some kind of circus, clowns on stage. We have a secular state, we have the police, the FSB - who have the rights given by the state and the law, it is they who must fulfill their functions. And no need to invent anything else. If the police cannot fulfill their direct duties, then you need to deal with the leaders who lead these bodies.
    5. seller trucks
      seller trucks 18 October 2013 09: 58 New
      11
      in fact, I have nothing against the Cossacks, but in my associative series, they look like this

      1. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 33 New
        +1
        did you see yourself drunk Here are your blue jokes on you tube to lay out, if only we were neighing !!!
    6. vadimus
      vadimus 18 October 2013 11: 26 New
      13
      The more Russian movements, the less chance of our enemies. I'm all for it!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 11: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: vadimus
        I am for it!

        Circus he and circus africa hi
        1. chief.matros
          chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 34 New
          0
          only you clown forgot to pick up
    7. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 18 October 2013 11: 49 New
      +2
      And the certificate is cool. Signed, as I understand it, "HER IMPERIAL MAJESTY". The abbreviation EIV so probably stands for? NATALIA 1.)))
      Colonel of the Life Guard))) Oh, no, the whole Colonel General.)))
      1. Vasia kruger
        Vasia kruger 18 October 2013 14: 10 New
        0
        Take it higher, Obersturmbansotnik, not lower judging by the mustache))))
        1. chief.matros
          chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 35 New
          0
          Nope, the smelter
    8. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 18 October 2013 14: 21 New
      12
      Quote: Andreitas
      There is something sensible in the affairs of the Cossacks. But somehow it’s all frivolous anyway. It smacks of some kind of eccentricity, clowning.

      Yes ... there are still enough "mummers" (as we in the Kuban call those whom you call clowns) ... but they are mainly in those regions where the Cossacks are self-styled or the leadership of the region knows about the Cossacks only from "Quiet Don" SHOLOKHOV ... Although we still have enough props in the Kuban ... But NOT LESS THAN USE !! Compare the behavior of the North Caucasian and Transcaucasian migrants in STAVRAPOL REGION and here ... in the KRASNODAR region ... ... Visitors are clearly explained, first of all by the Cossacks, that in a "foreign monastery, visitors should not introduce their own charter" and procedures ... And what kind of assistance is provided to the police by joint patrolling with the police in ensuring public order, raising children, preventing child criminality ... I don’t have a special drink for our governor ... but for organizing the Cossacks for the benefit of society - honor and praise to him.
      Yes ... as an estate, the Cossacks, perhaps, have outlived their usefulness, but as an organized force for the benefit of the state (if they are organized and directed correctly), this cannot be taken away. In total there are NINE Cossack regions, which means there are NINE Cossack troops! In the rest - self-styled "mummers"! Therefore, about the Cossacks of Chukotka, Tambov, St. Petersburg ... (and 74 more regions), one should not judge all the Cossacks ...!
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 18 October 2013 16: 27 New
        0
        We have no attempts on the part of a dozen immigrants in Dagestan or Chechnya to keep whole villages in fear ...

        This is certainly great, but they are now fleeing from you to us in the Stavropol! But we don’t have a governor - they kicked out the old one, they haven’t appointed a new one yet - there is a temporary acting organization, but he’s busy with another one now - he’s gaining points before the elections ...
        1. chief.matros
          chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 43 New
          +1
          and you are aware that by order of the V.V. PU in Kislovodsk, these natives were ordered to allocate at least 50 hectares of land for housing construction (despite the fact that there is not much land in sour and so on, but between the mountains), in Pyatigorsk at least 70, and in the eastern part of Stavropol he gave them Cossack lands, local leaders simply in aha ... e-between two fires were. I say, Cossacks would have had more weapons, but they would have put things in order.
          1. 225chay
            225chay 19 October 2013 10: 49 New
            0
            Quote: chief.matros
            in the eastern part of Stavropol, he gave them Cossack lands, local leaders simply in aha ... e-between two fires were

            The problem cannot be glossed over. It is necessary to make noise, appeal to the press and upstairs. Immediately slow down the sale of land. But everything is within the law!
        2. 225chay
          225chay 19 October 2013 10: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Serg 122
          But we don’t have a governor - they kicked out the old one, they haven’t appointed a new one yet - there is a temporary acting organization, but he’s busy with another one now - he’s gaining points before the elections ...

          New or VRI-about which Vladimirov is a protege of the Kremlin. Energy resource businessman. Will continue the policy of United Russia to fill the Stavropol Territory with Putin's favorite "guests"
      2. Uncle
        Uncle 18 October 2013 17: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        But also USE NOT LESS !!

        Thank God!
      3. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 37 New
        0
        correctly said, they are used to listening to "lezginka" at night, let them continue to listen
    9. Walker1975
      Walker1975 18 October 2013 14: 39 New
      0
      Plus. Especially when insignia from different Cossack units. The medals are incomprehensible for what they were issued, the titles are incomprehensibly assigned by whom. A certificate in general from a non-existent state.

      Let's print the identity of the Governor and the warriors of Kievan Rus. Why not? Or in Kazan you can print a certificate: Golden Horde. Thousand.

      And you can form a battalion of elven special forces.

      And if the Cossacks act as law enforcement agencies, border guards, the Armed Forces, then you need to make changes to the relevant laws. Legalize their titles, documents, etc. Otherwise, on what basis will they carry out the same detentions? Can you imagine people coming up to you, showing the identity card of colonels of the Russian Empire and demanding to open the trunk?
      1. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 45 New
        0
        Moscow does not need this, it’s crime immediately going down, how will they be laundering loot?
    10. timer
      timer 18 October 2013 22: 14 New
      0
      I am skeptical of this venture. It smacks of clowning and idle talk. Quality is our story, not the present.
      1. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 03: 55 New
        +2
        one who knows the story poorly ends up poorly, and the Cossacks are our reborn present with truly effective laws. Did you know that if the chieftain or other high rank of the Cossacks breaks the law, what will happen to him will simply be demolished, deprived of all the regalia, and then they will prey out in the square, tearing the trousers off his ass. In the city of Novocherkassk in the dashing 90s, a certain citizen raped a girl, his Cossacks caught him, on a day off, in the central square they tied him up with a bare ass for a crime and poured scourges, after this incident this citizen left the city, and in such offenses naturally stopped in the city, only Moscow liberals didn’t like this order and also dispersed the Cossack squad. And in the grocery markets, what order was there before (again, in the mid-90s), no resellers and obscure traders, everything is at a normal price, and if you overestimate the price of goods, go trade in another place.
    11. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 01: 19 New
      +1
      According to our Cossack law, the Cossacks have the right to wear the descendants of the Cossack, i.e. children, grandchildren, etc., and this, by the way, was enshrined even in ancient tsarist times, thus it was still emphasized, if there were no wars, that the Cossack belongs to a worthy family, and his ancestors adequately defended the borders of the territory entrusted to them.
    12. allim
      allim 19 October 2013 19: 58 New
      0
      And I absolutely agree I live in Kazakhstan, I have seen enough of these clowns, they fastened some pieces of iron with crosses reminiscent of Georgians themselves drunken in a duplin walk in the streets singing some kind of songs provoke local Aborigines and this local Cossacks
  2. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 18 October 2013 08: 55 New
    0
    It’s hard for me personally to imagine how a small group of people (Cossacks) will be able to influence the situation on a national scale — more like PR.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 18 October 2013 14: 19 New
      +3
      Now real Cossacks would not hurt the country, but where can we get them only?
      I have 2 father-in-law hereditary Cossacks, though they do not participate in current performances. they are good people of course, but they don’t pull in my mind those Cossacks that were before
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 October 2013 19: 04 New
        -5
        Quote: Starfish
        Now real Cossacks would not hinder the country

        And who knows what they are real?
    2. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 01 New
      +2
      Lekha, you are clearly not from our city, Krasnodar, Stavropol Territory, Rostov and part of the Voronezh Region — the Cossack Territory, and you are a small group of people. Do you even know that where you bathe on the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus-Caucasus, the whole land is covered with Cossack blood in the wars with Turkey, and this, incidentally, is the entire Black Sea coast of Russia !!!
    3. allim
      allim 19 October 2013 20: 27 New
      0
      Lech is enough and one moron who will raise the people
      Today I was visiting a single KAZAKH. This is our Kazakh, but today, in the village of Presnovskaya, the drunken mummers in the form were simply beaten and he served in the SA
      very loyal to us and this is in Kazakhstan and now he will be taken to the police and he will begin to yell that Kazakhs are oppressing the Cossacks
  3. ale-x
    ale-x 18 October 2013 08: 56 New
    +4
    Ksiva is cool ... Who is Her Imperial Majesty Natalia I? Very interesting....
    The Cossacks should be .. And the functions are the same as those in the Russian Empire should be preserved - guarding the borders and keeping people on the waiting list ready for mobilization (without horses)))))).
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 October 2013 08: 59 New
    +5
    The fact that there are many mummers of Cossacks is not a secret for anyone. To direct their movement in the necessary direction will be useful and useful. And so, somehow everything is on its own, and who is what much. Hence the lack of understanding of them (Cossacks) by the majority of the people.
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 04 New
      +1
      so the center does not allow to direct everything in the right direction, they are afraid there will be a lot of order
  5. saag
    saag 18 October 2013 09: 00 New
    +1
    Cossacks served in the border areas, and send them all there, but in general it’s a rake, old, but in the new version, if you develop them, they will certainly come, it was already like that in history
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 05 New
      +2
      and you even read this real story, can you still believe that you came from a monkey?
      1. 225chay
        225chay 19 October 2013 11: 03 New
        -1
        Quote: chief.matros
        and you even read this real story, can you still believe that you came from a monkey?

        "They" have their own histories ... "They" believe in "theirs" and rewrite in their own way for the people
  6. morpogr
    morpogr 18 October 2013 09: 05 New
    +6
    If the order becomes more, then God help.
  7. Dangerous
    Dangerous 18 October 2013 09: 13 New
    -2
    This is something like the national guard in the US will ??
    1. ale-x
      ale-x 18 October 2013 09: 24 New
      0
      The National Guard is the internal troops, the tasks are similar.
      1. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 10 New
        +2
        and in Russia, for your information, before the revolution of 1917, except for the Cossacks, the people were not afraid of anyone, and the Cossacks obtained freedom with their blood, their own way. And there was always order in the Cossack troops, for which their kings and not only respected.
  8. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 18 October 2013 09: 14 New
    -2
    Interestingly, why do I need a police? As far as I know, the police should monitor the order, there were still some left-wing Cossacks who came out of nowhere. And by the way, I still have to pay money for this, for what reason? I still suggest to everyone who wants to play war games or defel through the streets with a whip, protecting the law and order, go to Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, let the Cossacks there keep order on the streets or what they can do there, because as for me it's ordinary loafers.
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 14 New
      +2
      and no one forces you to pay. The Cossack form is acquired for one’s own money, like all ammunition, and your premises are kept on voluntary contributions — you don’t want to pay the wages from the Cossacks, you are not sent there by force, as you used to be in the pioneers or the Komsomol, or all the volunteers . In any case, in the Kuban Cossack army.
    2. 225chay
      225chay 19 October 2013 11: 10 New
      -1
      Quote: Standard Oil
      I still suggest ... go to Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, let the Cossacks there ... keep order in the streets or whatever they can do there, because as for me it's ordinary loafers.

      For the gentlemen of the oil business kings, whom do you belong to? Judging by your avatar, you naturally need to drive people who are not your thinkers somewhere in Africa or Honduras ...
      And it’s even better to pit peoples together, which you are successfully doing around the world, and here the Slavs and Muslims continue to quietly pull away the remaining property of all sorts of wealth and wealth from the bowels, which generally should belong to the people.
  9. alekseyal
    alekseyal 18 October 2013 09: 22 New
    +7
    The Great Fatherland Party (Air Defense) considers it necessary to create, within the framework of Cossack self-government, full-fledged Cossack troops, included in the system of the Ministry of Defense, and operating in certain border territories.
  10. Pavlov A.E.
    Pavlov A.E. 18 October 2013 09: 35 New
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    I’m a Cossack by nature, but I’m against all these mummers in uniform and with medals you want to serve and join the army I myself went through two Chechen campaigns and modesty and decency are not the only thing we don’t medal in.
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 18 October 2013 10: 21 New
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      I myself am a Cossack by gender

      Dear Alexander!
      By gender you cannot be a Cossack, by gender you RUSSIAN.
      The Cossacks were never a nationality, but were an estate. The estates were abolished almost 100 years ago, so the nobles and Cossacks did not. soldier
      1. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 18 October 2013 14: 04 New
        +2
        by type you are RUSSIAN
        , and who is Alexander then by nationality?
        1. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 18 October 2013 21: 52 New
          +1
          and who is Alexander then by nationality?

          Eugene, it’s not you from me, but ask dear Alexander. hi
      2. Cossack23
        Cossack23 21 October 2013 23: 14 New
        0
        Anyone can call himself Russian, but there is no such nation because Russia consists of different tribes and peoples. Cossacks have their own language (Mova, Balakshchina), our own folklore, our own national clothes, therefore we are people. and here you are respected speaking Russian, wear Western (not comfortable) clothes, use the benefits of Western culture and teach me how to live better read the normal story and not the masses
    2. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 18 New
      0
      Respect and respect for you, Sanya, but the Cossack, dressing the orders of his father or grandfather, does not show everyone his pallows, but that he remembers the deeds of his ancestors and reminds others of them, it's like a monument that you carry on your chest.
      1. Pablo_K
        Pablo_K 19 October 2013 07: 25 New
        0
        Quote: chief.matros
        but the Cossack, dressing the orders of his father or grandfather, does not show everyone his pallows, but that he remembers the exploits of his ancestors and reminds others of them is like a monument that you carry on your chest

        How would you look at such a Cossack in 1913?
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  12. Ddhal
    Ddhal 18 October 2013 09: 43 New
    +6
    "Semyon! You are asleep again. You should have done at least something about the house!"
    -Yes, what are you, Anyuta? And suddenly tomorrow there is a war and I am not exhausted .. "
  13. Vadim-Skeptic
    Vadim-Skeptic 18 October 2013 09: 49 New
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    Cossack (Cossacks) is not even a system of moral and spiritual values, and not an army. Cossack - a title that is not transferred by birthright, it can be compared with the personal nobility. But personal nobility is a reward from the emperor. If I settle in the border region, my garden house will be no further than 100 km from the border, I will live at my own expense, and I will carry out border functions with Saiga in my hands - I can rightly call myself a Cossack, if I will interesting. You can defend the border without the title of Cossack. Without any xiv and kinship with citizens, whose ancestors were Cossacks.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 October 2013 19: 10 New
      -6
      Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
      If I settle in the border region, my garden will be no further than 100 km from the border, I will live at my own expense, and I will carry out border functions with Saiga in my hands - I can rightly call myself a Cossack,

      Or maybe a poacher or a bandit. Who knows what you mean by border functions.

      Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
      if it will be interesting to me.

      Well, yes, depending on the income, such an interest

      Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
      You can defend the border without the title of Cossack


      Well with the title. it will be cooler. especially if Empress Natalia gives it to you
      Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
      . Without any xiv and kinship with citizens, whose ancestors were Cossacks.

      You can of course, and so laughing
  14. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 18 October 2013 09: 54 New
    +5
    I don’t know how it was, only from books. and now, at least those that I come across are idlers, all without exception becoming Cossack warriors, illiterate ... the goblin’s word is so begging for the language. the people laugh both at their show-offs and over their absurd form.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 October 2013 19: 15 New
      -4
      Quote: Silkway0026
      I don’t know how it was, only from books. and now, at least those that I come across are idlers, all without exception becoming Cossack warriors, illiterate ... the goblin’s word is so begging for the language. the people laugh both at their show-offs and over their absurd form.

      Re-read dog heart
      Klim Chugunkin, seniority laughing
  15. v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 18 October 2013 10: 03 New
    +6
    Good article. Regarding the revival of the Cossacks in that historical form: so far it seems more questions than answers. It will probably be nice if you help the Cossacks especially in the Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories, maybe somewhere else in the border regions. Probably, privileges are needed, but they also need responsibilities. In the meantime, an elderly man in glasses in a uniform with a bunch of crosses (he saw such crosses before the revival as state awards) looks more funny in the center of a millionth city, and even with a whip. If not for the whip, then one word is a clown.
    Speaking of whips - this is actually a good cold weapon. Question: Why can he wear, but I can’t? Why is he better than me? And somehow at one time the issue of the right to wear checkers was discussed. This does not go into any gates. Even if the Cossacks run on street patrols. At best - batons, and certainly not checkers.
    A certificate - this is just from the category of clowning.
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 18 October 2013 16: 32 New
      -3
      So they also have remake checkers, tin. At first they wore them like sabers, head or hilt forward.
      1. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 35 New
        0
        and you look carefully on the net, how drafts are worn, and then write-wise guy
      2. allim
        allim 19 October 2013 20: 33 New
        0
        in checkers tin paper crosses and comedians themselves
        but this is what I saw in sebach in Kazakhstan
    2. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 33 New
      +4
      the Cossacks have been trying to rise since 1991, but the center does not allow him to do this, and the uniform (parade patrol is allowed only in the parade, remember army patrols, if you served of course) is the same as it was 100 years ago, and the field uniform is the same as and in the modern army of Russia. About crosses read my reviews above. Well, about financing, since the center, like you, nobody asks to pay, the only thing is, if the state needs additional forces to maintain order, then pay, but it will be necessary to somehow help the Cossack who received an injury, for example, while detaining hooligans . Our valiant police only walks along well-lit streets, and then only until 22-00, and it’s supposed to be at least until 24-00, so that when they, the police, jointly patrol, there’s nothing left to do but go where the crime can occur until the end time
      1. 225chay
        225chay 19 October 2013 11: 15 New
        0
        Quote: chief.matros
        the Cossacks have been trying to rise since 1991, but the center does not allow him to do this,

        I must say honestly not the center, but the enemy power came in the 91st year
  16. calocha
    calocha 18 October 2013 10: 05 New
    0
    This masquerade can go sideways. Armed clowns, someone needs it. Yesterday I wore a tie, and now all my chest is in St. George's crosses.))))
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 37 New
      +2
      this masquerade in crosses can put things in order in the cities of Russia, under normal circumstances, and so listen to the "lezginka" under the windows after midnight
  17. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 18 October 2013 10: 05 New
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    In general, the Cossacks as such, the main function in the Russian Empire was the protection of borders. These are paramilitary settlements with their own way of life .. privileges and other things. Which in the event of a military threat in a short time were formed into mobile well-armed combat units (the basis of the way of life of the Cossacks was fidelity to the oath and loyalty to the Fatherland loyalty to the king .. which was brought up from childhood as well as possession of weapons and battle tactics ..) All this estate was not formed one century ... Now this is not, alas, only a masquerade! And the idea with the Cossacks was excellent (not in vain during the civilian majority of them remained faithful to the oath and many of them were destroyed alas ..)
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 41 New
      +2
      and it’s true, the oath is taken once.
  18. 3935333
    3935333 18 October 2013 10: 07 New
    +8
    The Cossack is a professional killer, this is a unit of the times of the empire, the whole of Europe, all of Asia was afraid of the Cossacks, and now the "Cossacks" are a farce !!! to my regret (I was born on the Don), the Cossacks finished their history in the 20s of the last century ...., there were small centers of culture and life in Rostov, Volgograd, Stavropol, Krasnodar, Yaitsk in Kazakhstan, etc. etc., but this is a pitiful semblance of the Cossacks. I really hope that everything will change, and the Cossacks, as part of our people, will nevertheless be reborn to their former state with the support of the government.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 18 October 2013 10: 36 New
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      Quote: 3935333
      Cossack is a professional killer
      Cossack, in the first place was a hard worker, a plowman, only then a warrior, faithful to his homeland. For their service, the Cossacks received land from the government on the condition of local ownership and salaries. Cossack troops in the 1916 year: the Don, Kuban, Orenburg, Transbaikal, Tersk, Siberian, Ural (Yaitsk), Amur, Semirechensk, Astrakhan, Ussuriysk troops, Yenisei Cossacks and the Yakut Cossack Regiment. By the 1910 year, all Cossack troops and regions inhabited by Cossacks were subordinated to the Cossack department of the General Staff of the War Ministry, headed by Ataman of all Cossack troops, which was the heir to the throne.
      I admire our ancestors, true Cossacks, but not modern drunkards and idlers, who assign titles and awards to themselves, being able only to drink a shot of vodka from a checker, to shout "love", and to show off with a whip. Without the revival of the warrior-plowman, one cannot speak of the revival of the Cossacks, and these clowns are mummers, only disgrace the proud word "Cossack".
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 11: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Per se.
        Cossack, first of all was a hard worker, a plowman

        And there were only clowns.
        1. tverskoi77
          tverskoi77 18 October 2013 16: 00 New
          +9
          And there were only clowns.

          In my opinion, it’s more correct to say: Cossacks remained, but there are very few of them, and clowns appeared and there are a lot of them.
      2. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 48 New
        +1
        started for health, and finished for peace, well, you don’t have to judge everyone in one or two drunkards that caught your eye. And about the rewards, read who and how of the descendants can wear them, and more, please do not judge everyone because of a couple of idiots
    2. ale-x
      ale-x 18 October 2013 16: 07 New
      +5
      Most of the Ural Cossacks died or went to Persia in the 20s. Those who remained lived and were brought up already in the Soviet Union.
      The Cossacks did a great deal, the state, but unfortunately there is little left of them except memory and books with photographs.
    3. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 04: 45 New
      +1
      you know how wise people used to say: what is pop, such is parish. If the chieftain (like mine) is normal, then the squad will be normal. And you also know that if in a herd one sheep flew, then it is not necessary to say that the whole herd is lousy.
  19. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 18 October 2013 10: 09 New
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    I will say for myself and only my opinion)
    My father is from the Kuban, his great-grandfathers were real CossacksBut it was he who told me that there are no more Cossacks! descendants, but they NOT COSSACKS. Cossacks were finished off by the Great Patriotic War, and before this dispossession, and even earlier the civil war and the First World War. As my little father, his late grandfather said when, dad was a kid and said that he was KAZAK:
    "My father was a Cossack, I am a Cossack son, and you are a crap dog."

    So now they’re just mummers clowns, because if they were real Cossacks, they would restore order there a long time and not a single monkey would appear there ... she would not appear there.
    And so amused, "The Russian Empire ... and where do they get such ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 18 October 2013 10: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
      and before this dispossession

      "Decorating". The official term of the time.
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        DuraLexSedLex. 18 October 2013 11: 05 New
        +2
        I was afraid to apply it, because I was not sure about the term. Thank you hi
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 18 October 2013 11: 23 New
          -1
          Why are they afraid. And there is. I have the same story as you. I experience the same feelings when I see "these".
          1. DuraLexSedLex.
            DuraLexSedLex. 18 October 2013 13: 39 New
            0
            I was afraid that it was not accurate as I recall the word, but that’s why it means or not, I don’t remember, suddenly a gag)
      2. klimpopov
        klimpopov 18 October 2013 11: 21 New
        +3
        The term that was coined by Heinrich Yulievich Witte. And he thought of the tumbling first.
    2. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 00 New
      +4
      unfortunately your father is wrong, not all Cossacks the Patriotic War took, veterans lived in our town, real Cossacks, and came across in the neighboring village. Many did not have time to leave the Soviets, and remained in the USSR, and subsequently fought for it. I remember the neighbor’s grandfather, a Cossack taught, you’ll go there and don’t even think about saying that Kochubey was a good Cossack, and grandfathers can catch a whip. I remember how grandfathers called Cherkessk the station of Batalpashinskaya, many do not know the history of the Cossacks, they don’t understand what is happening, it’s the same as playing a game without knowing the rules, and here people are lost. ... and the youth after the war was mainly raised by Cossacks, they well remembered the laws and foundations, so they raised their children as real Cossacks, so there are still Cossacks in Russia !!!
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 19 October 2013 10: 52 New
        0
        Well, actually Cherkessk used to be Art. Batalpashinsky in honor of the defeat of Batal Pasha. and further down Belomechetskaya (on the opposite bank of the White Mosque) Ust Nevinsky (9aya Cossack crossing) Nevinnomysskaya (10aya Cossack crossing) Barsukovskaya well so on.
        http://www.nevchronograph.ru/publications/25
        if interesting. In general, I am fascinated by the history of the "line" from school.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 19 October 2013 12: 15 New
          0
          And Psyzh forgot between Batalpashinka and Belma.
      2. Cossack23
        Cossack23 21 October 2013 23: 42 New
        0
        The whole farm was destroyed in the Urals, only the black-speaking grandfather remained alive, they were afraid to touch him and the children probably took pity or took refuge in a neighboring village, so the grandfather called these children a Circassian and later his grandmother told me that they had found a chest with Cossack icons and that’s how the memory of the Cossack origin was preserved and another grandmother from the Zaporizhzhya section, but the same story remained an orphan at 12 years old. So, of all four clans merged in me, no one was red-assed, because everyone suffered and I remember all these stories on quiet evenings that were passed on to us so that we would know and remember who we were. I hope that someday we will restore justice, we will cleanse our desecrated name and scolded honor. Eternal memory to our ancestors they experienced a terrible time when the word Cossack could not be pronounced even in a whisper, but they kept it for us so that we knew who we were and were proud of.
  20. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 18 October 2013 10: 16 New
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    When the Belt of the Mother of God was brought to Yekaterinburg, while I stood in line, I watched the Cossacks of the Orenburg Host guarding us. I could not understand everything, what happened to their faces, shoulder straps, uniforms, and only towards evening I realized: THEY ARE REAL. They are not mummers, like others, they do not protect anyone, they do not grind sabers out of springs. The Cossacks in our Empire had privileges, but also responsibilities were good. If you want to be called a Cossack, go serve for 10 years where they say + Orthodoxy, and in return you will be given land, tax benefits, honor and attention. It is clear that many "hereditary Cossacks" will immediately drop out, leaving only worthy ones. Let's call them the Cossacks.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 18 October 2013 10: 22 New
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      Let's be honest to the end: the only uniform that can be worn the real Cossacks are a form of the Russian Army. Everything else is a masquerade.
      1. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 04 New
        +2
        this uniform is more than a hundred years old, as well as the parade marine uniform of the Navy of Russia, the USSR, Russia again, so there is no need to pipet.
  21. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 18 October 2013 10: 17 New
    +5
    Games ala Cossacks-Cossacks actually smell bad. First of all, they are involved in the ideas of the peculiarity, just like with the "proud and ancient" Ukrainian. It is openly and openly declared that the Kakzaki is a nation, and by no means Russian ...fool
    Got game, that we, in the former Estland province / ESSR, appeared Cossacks ... not visiting, but their own, indigenous ...wassat
    1. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 18 October 2013 12: 07 New
      +1
      Hot Estonian Cossacks,))) belay
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 18 October 2013 12: 17 New
        +2
        Colleagues, follow this link and learn not only about the Estonian Cossacks, but also about the Scandinavian, American and even Japanese laughing :
        http://journalist.delfi.ee/news/news/kajtselijt-otmetil-nagradami-estonskih-kaza
        kov.d? id = 34136533
        On this occasion, the Christomatism example from psychiatry is already - the commander of the heavy machine gun division, three times the hero of the worldwassat
        1. Eternal demobilization
          Eternal demobilization 18 October 2013 12: 30 New
          +6
          Among them, I would like to mention the guest of the Pokrov festival, the ex-director of Motorola, the US chieftain, Carol Bailey, who delivered a welcoming address at the beginning of the evening.

          A pleasant surprise was the video message from the head of the Cossacks of Japan - Baron Yoshihiko Okabe, which testifies to the wide geography of the Cossack movement.

          AAAAAAAAAAAAA ... completely killed. The head of the Cossacks of Japan - Baron Yoshihiko Okabe ... wassat ... Mom take me back)))
      2. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 11 New
        0
        there are no eternal brakes, like some .... Cossacks are free people who initially fled from royal, landlord and lordly lawlessness, if only the history of the Cossacks was revered first, or something, before shit was watered
    2. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 08 New
      +2
      Cossacks served where the fatherland would say, I have a friend with a clearly Lithuanian surname, so their family has been cossacking for more than 250 years. Cossacks are of different nations, so do not be surprised, read my statements above, then maybe you will understand, otherwise you’re tired of typing the same thing.
  22. Bigfoot_Sev
    Bigfoot_Sev 18 October 2013 10: 25 New
    0
    it would be better instead of crowds of "reenactors and roleplayers" to finance the b army. and the police.
    I somehow do not want, instead of the more or less understood police (which also have their own jokes), the streets were patrolled by men in crosses and axelbands, with incomprehensible powers.

    = ^ _ ^ =
  23. Bigfoot_Sev
    Bigfoot_Sev 18 October 2013 10: 38 New
    +2
    Quote: Peaceful military
    Games ala Cossacks-Cossacks actually smell bad. First of all, they are involved in the ideas of the peculiarity, just like with the "proud and ancient" Ukrainian. It is openly and openly declared that the Kakzaki is a nation, and by no means Russian ...fool
    Got game, that we, in the former Estland province / ESSR, appeared Cossacks ... not visiting, but their own, indigenous ...wassat


    in Estonia? native Estonian Cossacks?

    = ^ _ ^ =
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 18 October 2013 13: 42 New
      0
      Colleague, follow this link and learn not only about the Estonian Cossacks, but also about the Scandinavian, American and even Japaneselaughing
      http://journalist.delfi.ee/news/news/kajtselijt-otmetil-nagradami-estonskih-kaza

      kov.d? id = 34136533
  24. Lolocat
    Lolocat 18 October 2013 10: 42 New
    -2
    It's funny to you, but I've seen the use of "Cossacks" here and there.


    Before the Olympics in Sochi, 60 mobile groups were created to identify illegal migrants, and these were added to strengthen them. According to my observation, they do dirty work for the met - the documents are checked on the streets (for what reason it is not clear), the hooligans are detained and escorted, etc. All the young guys could work quite well somewhere.
    And apparently their most victory, along with the measure of Pakhomov, was dispersed by a procession of Hare Krishnas (well, you know, they go down the streets in sheets and sing songs).
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 17 New
      +2
      and they did the right thing, there’s nothing to do any trash in Holy Russia, and these combatants go out to patrol the streets on their day off, after work, and not like some who are only able to pipet. You can’t tear your ass off your sofa on your day off.
  25. leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 18 October 2013 10: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: klimpopov
    Hi Sasha! I wonder what such people have in their heads? Cossacks of the brain.
    Yes, a day of work has just begun, but with positive. As always, Friday and bustle.
    The country must know the heroes in person! soldier

    Brezhnev would die from zvisty! Such a beautiful body armor!
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  26. 6 sunrise 9
    6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 10: 57 New
    0
    Cossacks were not only to protect borders, but also to restore order within the empire. For example, the same Chechnya, the point is that the true Cossacks have long been cut out by the Bolsheviks crying ... with the help of "proud Vainakhs" am , by the way they were allowed to come down from the mountains for this negative .
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 20 New
      +2
      it is correctly said that while fighting, and then putkin they were also allowed to go down from the mountains, so we disentangle, we cannot disentangle
  27. buzer
    buzer 18 October 2013 11: 10 New
    -1
    For the authorities, the "Cossacks" are, first of all, the "electorate" - so they are playing with them in another razvodilovo ...
  28. Vadim-Skeptic
    Vadim-Skeptic 18 October 2013 11: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: 6Sunrise9
    Cossacks were not only to protect borders, but also to restore order within the empire. For example, the same Chechnya, the point is that the true Cossacks have long been cut out by the Bolsheviks crying ... with the help of "proud Vainakhs" am , by the way they were allowed to come down from the mountains for this negative .


    Regarding the unloading, there is a version that the order for the unloading was given by Yakov Sverdlov, a Jewish politician who stuck to the Bolsheviks, with a bunch of relatives in the states and who had a "business" in growing wheat ... On whose plan did he give the order?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 18 October 2013 11: 21 New
      +4
      These are legends; in fact, Trotsky was the initiator. No financial considerations; he just hated them fiercely. Including those who fought on the side of the Reds. It is enough to recall Mironov, whom he destroyed.
    2. 6 sunrise 9
      6 sunrise 9 18 October 2013 11: 22 New
      +4
      I do not like to deal with versions ... there may be many versions. But the fact is that the Cossacks were killed hand in hand, the Caucasians and the Bolsheviks are a fact and there is no getting away from it.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 18 October 2013 12: 03 New
        +5
        But how much blood flowed on the Terek when the Chechens at the mercy of the village gave in 1921 seem ...
  29. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 18 October 2013 11: 28 New
    0
    ksiva strong !!! and who is Emperor Nicholas III?
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 18 October 2013 11: 34 New
      +6
      Quote: Blad_21617
      and who is Emperor Nicholas III?

      Likely he, Nikolenka:
      1. Beech
        Beech 22 October 2013 00: 35 New
        0
        recourse That's who it turns out what
    2. alone
      alone 18 October 2013 22: 11 New
      0
      request honestly don’t know such an emperor. I know for sure that there was the first and second.

      although after reading the first natalia you can guess who the third is Nikolai))
  30. yuriy_dashkin
    yuriy_dashkin 18 October 2013 11: 38 New
    0
    Meanwhile, no one thinks about the fact that the Cossacks (like the "Siberians", "Pomors", etc.) are now used, incl. and in order to take apart Russia. And what is the ksiva at the end of the article (EIV Nikolay 3, EIV Natalia) .... Why would it be? And the armament of these people for the state. score? There are a lot of questions. but there are no answers ... It seems to me that this is very serious ((((
  31. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 18 October 2013 11: 53 New
    +2
    Cossacks were an estate. In 1917, all estates were abolished. The militants, drunk, in trousers with stripes, themselves and their loved ones cannot be protected at the household level. What can they do useful for their country. In the village of Kushchevskaya the gang killed and humiliated people during 10 years. Where were these Cossacks? Why didn’t they help their fellow countrymen with just a word? Clowns.
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 28 New
      +4
      everything there and everyone knew about everything, and the cops, and the prosecutors, and the FSB, they present this to us like oh, almost a bolt from the blue, and it all started there not 10 years ago, right now I remember what year it was next to me I walked at a friend’s wedding, and I think in 1994. So already then there were serious things there, so it turns out 20 years, and not 10, as we are told. But the Cossacks, like the whole Russian people, were soldering Yeltsin and the company so that there were no riots, well, whoever stayed, be content with that, but earlier they were mostly good people.
  32. ramsi
    ramsi 18 October 2013 12: 00 New
    +4
    when they begin to wet the Caucasians without looking back, then we can talk about the Cossacks seriously
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 18 October 2013 13: 12 New
      0
      Quote: ramsi
      when they begin to wet the Caucasians without looking back, then we can talk about the Cossacks seriously





      To begin with, let them stop absorbing vodka by oceans and lakes from Baikal! This will already be a step to success.
      1. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 31 New
        +3
        I haven’t been drinking alcohol for a long time, and many of my friends, too, don’t have any health complaints, but you yourself drink less ale and smoke weed.
    2. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 29 New
      +1
      Moscow does not give ..... in one word
  33. RUSS
    RUSS 18 October 2013 12: 01 New
    +8
    There will be a normal legislative base for the Cossacks, there will be the Cossacks, who they should be, we have high hopes for the future.
  34. Russ69
    Russ69 18 October 2013 12: 01 New
    +3
    In principle, I do not mind all these Cossack movements. But for this, the Cossacks themselves must restore order within themselves by getting rid of the mummers, deal with the regalia, what can be worn, what is not, and others.
    1. nurbay
      nurbay 18 October 2013 12: 19 New
      -4
      they don’t have anyone in order .. there are some superiors and super generals. it’s getting ridiculous.
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 18 October 2013 13: 15 New
      -3
      Quote: Russ69
      In principle, I do not mind all these Cossack movements. But for this, the Cossacks themselves must restore order within themselves by getting rid of the mummers, deal with the regalia, what can be worn, what is not, and others.




      Who will direct? The leadership of these Cossack units is pretty much littered with a criminal element. The most common rank among Cossacks is a major general, not lower. Despite the fact that many have no secondary education and never served. Even their children, the younger draftees age wear esaul shoulder straps.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 19 October 2013 01: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: gunnerminer

        Who will direct? The leadership of these Cossack units is pretty much littered with a criminal element. The most common rank among Cossacks is a major general, not lower. Despite the fact that many have no secondary education and never served. Even their children, the younger draftees age wear esaul shoulder straps.

        Wherever you go everywhere there is crime and corruption
        But with this attitude, you don’t have to do anything at all. unless you sit on the priest evenly and on the forums cry forever or fight virtually.
      2. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 35 New
        +2
        and write, my opponent, what do the esaul epaulets look like? Then don’t pipi
    3. chief.matros
      chief.matros 19 October 2013 05: 34 New
      +2
      it’s all spelled out before you, it’s just a wonder for the people, they have no idea either of the Cossacks or of traditions.
  35. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 18 October 2013 12: 05 New
    +3
    The Cossacks, in order not to interfere with history (in which everyone is mixed, and lacks blood and shame and great deeds), are the armed peasantry. Relationship with the state - contractual service. That is, some kind of hereditary contract soldiers. The fundamental difference from the hired power of the rest of the world is RUSSIAN contract soldiers.
    That is, "do you speak Russian? Cross yourselves in our circle? And beat the chieftain with your forehead? All, Cossack!" Service under the contract, pay, length of service, land privileges to the Army and the Cossack. BUT. Service exclusively to Russia (more precisely to the Tsar, and through loyalty to him and loyalty to Russia), tasks that do not contradict exclusively the struggle for the Russian land, the Russian faith and the Russian state.
    Having lost their service, the Cossacks ceased to be such. What instantly became obvious - in the south of Russia, gangs of specifically trained people literally blossomed, stubbornly calling themselves Cossacks and atamans. Buy the disc "Cossack songs", and there the songs are rubbish and it is dedicated to "Ataman Takomuto, who died in the suburbs in 1998". Cossack songs in honor of the unsuccessful bandit arrow ...
    This is a political problem again. How was it before? Why was the Tsar in Russia? So that people know how to act in a difficult situation. So do as the Emperor would have decided. That is, the Cossack, having caught an armed bandit, did not hesitate to open fire on an attempt to resist. As he was legally armed and obliged to rebuff illegal actions. After which the offender surrendered to the police. And if there was no such opportunity (say, in those places where you ride for seven days - you can't get to any "state"), the criminal was tried on the spot and, oh, horror !!, the sentence was carried out.
    And now? You never know that an armed criminal has been caught? Maybe he's someone's son? Or a "business partner"? Well, he was drunk and suppressed people for a whole stop. Here is the murderer, here is the instrument of the crime, here are the dead ... Well, how can you, according to modern concepts, grab him, drag him, beat him, God forbid ?! What if he, it's scary to say ... assistant to the deputy ?! Or, even worse, the deputy himself? This Tsar-father in Russia was a conscience, and he helped people to feel that conscience. And here...
    Give people weapons and rights - people will be honestly judged by law. Not according to the law that it is crafty written by crafty people, but because the heart is still alive in Russian. While alive .... Power will instantly increase. Immensely stronger ... but people can’t suppress people already drunk. You can’t take away property and land when you want it. And in general it will not work with people as if they should handle dirt ... but why then power? Is it something to work for? Yes, you stupefied ... And we need the Cossacks. And do not in any case!
  36. nurbay
    nurbay 18 October 2013 12: 18 New
    -4
    mummers better go save Ukraine from terrorists ... you are all looking for a warm place.
    1. Walker1975
      Walker1975 18 October 2013 14: 51 New
      0
      No, thanks. Here are the same. Well, at least they do not claim the budget for the rights of the armed forces and the police.
  37. Betahon
    Betahon 18 October 2013 12: 39 New
    +1
    In my enlightened opinion, many years of efforts of various kinds of enemies, hiding behind bureaucratic corrupt robes and modern scientific theories, Orthodoxy, Russia, customs, etc. in the post-revolutionary period, our Slavic, Russian values ​​were devalued! This process is accelerating more and more ... And the constantly arising task of the "Russian idea", as before, consists in a single Russian national government, expressing the interests of the titular nation in the first place! And don't give a damn about tolerance and etiquette when the country is in danger!
  38. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 18 October 2013 12: 53 New
    +4
    It is necessary to give the land to the Cossacks on the border with China for free and let them protect the border as before in the days of the empire. The point is that having your own land at the border and farming is an additional incentive to protect the borders.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 18 October 2013 18: 46 New
      +3
      So it used to be. Only the Ural Cossacks, from which the local settlements were formed, did not betray their Tsar, unlike the Don Army. And therefore - they were knocked out clean. Than they really did not like Trotsky Lev Daviditch ...
  39. Altona
    Altona 18 October 2013 13: 18 New
    +5
    It looks like "our answer to Chamberlain" ... Correct Caucasians walk in sharp-toed shoes and three-striped sweatpants, brave Cossacks wear caps with a red band or in Kuban caps ... In general, the Cossack estate is already an archaic and historical clownery, including form as it is ... If you declare yourself a military or paramilitary formation, then of course you have to start not with a dashing mustache and a busty Hanna ... We need to create villages with a mono-ethnic population, according to the principle of German villages ... Declare yourself, for example, what is the thread of the Don militia, and write - "Stanovoy settlement of the Don militia" ... Conduct regular patrols, expel illegal shepherds from pastures, monitor the territory and establish elementary order by means of people's self-government ... Wow, yes, really some kind of benefit, maybe ... And so ... folk art, amateur performance ...
  40. klavyr
    klavyr 18 October 2013 13: 59 New
    +6
    Cossack is not an appearance, it is a state of mind
  41. gych
    gych 18 October 2013 14: 10 New
    -4
    Quote: nurbay
    mummers better go save Ukraine from terrorists ... you are all looking for a warm place.

    it’s not necessary in Ukraine, and so these clowns are enough, we ourselves don’t know where to put them! let's collect them all and send Syria!
  42. kafa
    kafa 18 October 2013 14: 17 New
    -1
    one word mummers
  43. RUSS
    RUSS 18 October 2013 14: 24 New
    +1
    A little off topic, I'm sorry, tell me, is there a new info about the new symbolism from Shoigu?
  44. deman73
    deman73 18 October 2013 14: 50 New
    0
    All this Cossacks while the clownery under the guise of which dark personalities are eager for power to the grandmothers and the people’s good, although I know several true Cossacks who cherish the soul for the restoration of the Cossacks
  45. Fox
    Fox 18 October 2013 15: 00 New
    +1
    The value of the Cossacks in the 1st century was shown by the village of Kushchevskaya.
    They did not protect themselves, others climb to protect.
    Leave for ethno-tourists.
  46. Letnab
    Letnab 18 October 2013 15: 18 New
    +5
    750 000 people in the registered Cossacks! The second army! But where is she? Can not see!
    I read posts above, good thoughts such as 10 years of service for the state, and you are a real Cossack .. well, like distributing land along the border with China, such as cultivate the land, and rear-guard.
    From some point of view it sounds quite sensible! Indeed, I would like the Cossacks to show themselves, at the same time to cleanse ourselves from any shellup, why not the Cossacks to offer their services to the state both in the border guard and as part of military units in the North Caucasus and along China! But the condition, at least for example 10 years of service, is in these Cossack units! You serve, and call yourself a Cossack, served a full term, and retained the title with any privileges until death .. The child wants to become a hereditary Cossack, we ask for your favor !! But the service is just not in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it is a government agency, and there let ordinary people serve ..
    After all, it’s quite real! Are there only people in modern Cossacks who can voluntarily become real Cossacks? Indeed, from the point of view of history, a Cossack, a person is essentially voluntarily carrying out military service on the job, and the house is just on the border!
  47. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 18 October 2013 15: 19 New
    +4
    Primarily. Stop talking all the time about migrants, legal, illegal, Russian citizens, foreigners, etc. It's not about them. All these conversations lead away from the core of the problem, like a bird from a nest.
    There is a very difficult, hopeless social background. Especially difficult in dormitory areas of large cities. That is, in small cities, this background, of course, is not better. But there is a millennial sleeping kingdom and there is nothing to compare. And in capitals, life is in full swing and there is even something to compare with, and this comparison is not just annoying, but it leads to frenzy. One is the obvious glamor and joy of life, the other is dirt, obscenity, violence, drunkenness and a complete, hopeless lack of prospects. The greedy police, the corrupt court, fucked up by crazy, crazy money and complete irresponsibility bureaucracy. And all-consuming corruption is the main power vertical on which everything rests, like toys on a Christmas tree. Yes, plus an unscrupulous and arrogant, like a spit in the eye, an official lie.
  48. Artillerist
    Artillerist 18 October 2013 15: 51 New
    +3
    Costumed clowns hung with medals will never protect anyone. They will not help the police or the army. You shouldn't even count on it. I will not deny that in the history of Russia and Ukraine the Cossacks were a significant layer in military and social terms, which "had weight". And now what would the "Cossacks" do, just not to work ......
  49. smoliackow
    smoliackow 18 October 2013 16: 10 New
    +7
    The Cossacks were and will be, although many judging by the comments do not mind writing off the Cossacks as nonexistent, mummers, etc. Why? And they too stand out from the crowd, the crowd indifferent to their homeland, their land, their faith.
    1. Hon
      Hon 18 October 2013 16: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: smoliackow
      And too they stand out from the crowd

      Well, this one really stands out, you will notice this in any crowd, you can immediately see the Cossack laughing
      1. chief.matros
        chief.matros 19 October 2013 07: 52 New
        +2
        and you live with him, if you survive, we will look at you, otherwise the current generation did not serve anyone in the army, only enurezniks could not stand up for themselves, much less for their homeland. And this saber can still cut you in half, despite the fact that he is drunk.
        1. Hon
          Hon 19 October 2013 11: 43 New
          -2
          Quote: chief.matros
          and you live with him, if you survive, we will look at you, otherwise the current generation did not serve anyone in the army, only enurezniks could not stand up for themselves, much less for their homeland. And this saber can still cut you in half, despite the fact that he is drunk.

          Yes, he is not more than 45-50 years old, my father is older, but he does not look like a pig.

          Cossacks cannot even stand up for the virginity of their ass.

          In the village of Rozhdestvenskaya, Stavropol Territory, a Caucasian is suspected of raping a Cossack. The site of the Investigative Committee for Stavropol reports about the conflict, without naming nationalities. "Komsomolskaya Pravda" claims that this is just the tip of the iceberg: the Cossack was raped for refusing to pay the tribute that the Caucasian family imposed on the entire village.

          The official message is scanty: “A criminal case has been initiated against a 28-year-old resident of the village of Rozhdestvenskaya Izobilnensky District, suspected of committing a crime under Part 1 of Article 132 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (violent acts of a sexual nature). According to the investigation, on the evening of June 15 of this year, the suspect being in his household, he demanded the return of the debt from a local resident, and having been refused, he committed violent acts of a sexual nature against him. "

          The ataman of the Izobilnensky District Cossack Society Vasily Shaternikov added details in an interview with KP: "Our Cossack Alexander was raped by a 27-year-old Avar who lives in the neighborhood in mid-July. And this is not the first rape."

          It is still impossible to detain the rapist: he unexpectedly fell into a hospital in Stavropol with a heart attack, KP claims.

          On the eve of the Cossacks of the abundant Cossack society gathered in the village for an unauthorized rally, demanded the police and the investigation to deal with the rape. And for their part, they decided to strengthen the verification of passports, especially among visitors.

          The debt, for which the Cossack was raped, is called a tribute in the village of Rozhdestvenskaya: they say that one family here, to which the rapist belongs: "Like the salary of people, they begin to walk around and say," You owe us! "
  50. Magadan
    Magadan 18 October 2013 16: 31 New
    +2
    First of all, a Cossack is a state of mind. Are there real Cossacks or not, worthy of the memory of Yermak, the chieftain of Serko, the image of Taras Bulba or the personality of Platov - I don’t know. I know one thing - for wearing trinkets and for all these show-offs with a masquerade - I must be punished as the latest scoundrels who defame the memory of my ancestors, by the way, real Cossacks. And whatever one may say, the condition for the Cossack is necessarily the Orthodox faith. There will be faith, traditions will be resurrected.