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Miscarriage of free speech: “I do not see a particular problem and if Russia is divided along the Ural Range”

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To discuss the personal opinions of other people, and even more so, of people, as they say, outsiders, is ambiguous. It is clear that it’s personal and personal opinion in order to remain, perhaps, reserved, inviolable. However, when a person expresses a personal opinion live on the media, and even with certain complaints about an attempt to establish objective truth in a given issue, one can afford to discuss such an opinion. And in a certain context, you even need ...


Why is this all ...

The other day, a radio station Ekho Moskvy, a radio station that calls itself independent (from the state) but manages to join Gazprom-Media holding, spoke on a lady by the name of Evgenia Albats, editor-in-chief of a loud and hinting magazine. titled “The New Times” and concurrently the author and presenter of the “Full Albats” project on the mentioned radio. In an interview with Alexei Venediktov (Echo’s chief editor), Evgenia Markovna delved into the topic of CIS problems, rivalry with China and broadcast information for which people in less tolerant societies are simply beaten.

Miscarriage of free speech: “I do not see a particular problem and if Russia is divided along the Ural Range”


So that our readers do not think that the words of Yevgenia Albats were pulled out of some third-party context, we present several points from the dialogue of the interlocutors on the radio station Ekho Moskvy in the program Special Opinion.

Albats:
We have appeared in the CIS such a serious contender, like China, which is included in a number of republics, and very seriously included.


Venediktov:
With money. Influence.


Albats:
Investment. Huge purchases of gas and oil fields, investment in enterprises and so on. We are now in the next issue doing a big main topic about this, because we have been doing this for a long time. And this competition ... Here, quietly, China is doing all this without a cry, without a reminder that they are a great empire, without everything else. Quietly he entered.


Venediktov:
Well, maybe God bless him? Well, he entered and entered, and let him take what is called. Or how?


Albats:
Well, it seems to me, yes. From my point of view, this is the reality that exists, and it must be reckoned with.


Venediktov:
Fight or reckon?


Albats:
Considering it because we cannot fight China is already understandable.


Venediktov (and again - author's comment):
And so, maybe, God be with him, and let him take it?


Albats:
So no, I also think that God is with him, let him take it. I do not see any problem. I, frankly, do not see a particular problem and if Russia is divided along the Ural Range. I think it is inevitable ...


The opinion, as you can see, is really special ... They talked in such a way that even the regular listeners of Echo were clearly confused by the ideas of Evgenia Markovna, according to which she was not at all opposed to the part of Russia beyond the Urals that would go to China (or or another).

We present a few comments of the radio listeners "Echo of Moscow".

Sebarrow:
Comment on the stream of consciousness of this person - do not respect yourself. I'm talking about Albats of course.


Emeljanov2:
After this broadcast in any other country история Albats as a politician, and she undoubtedly positions herself as a politician, would immediately end.


And enchanting:

Mister tu_8:
And I do not mind, Ms. Albats, if your s ... zu is divided along the line that divides it in half.


If we go back to the statements of Mrs. Albats about the "inevitable" division of Russia, then such statements smell, if not extremism, then explicit agreement with the actions of, in fact, any person (any state) who (who) will take steps to territorial division of the Russian Federation. If it happened on the air, for example, of an American radio station, then the competent structures might well be interested in the words of Evgenia Markovna. There and for more modest reasons, people are accustomed to "process."

But while everyone can “blurt out” what he wants, he can cut his “truth-womb”, shouting at all angles about freedom of speech, tolerance and free-thinking.

By the way, Evgenia Albats is not alone in her thoughts about the “inevitable” division of Russia. Often, there are people who broadcast on the air of various mass media their thoughts that Russia “needs something territorially to someone” or that the territorial integrity of Russia is a temporary matter.

In 2011, the Russian director Alexander Sokurov, apparently, was greatly impressed by the receipt of the Japanese order, and therefore, when it came to the Kuril Islands, he said:
Probably, you need to give the beautiful people to the Japanese people.


In an interview with Neva24, Sokurov, after expressing his thoughts about the Kuriles, said:
This is not my first time talking about it. And I say this as a person, not as a statesman. I understand that this is a complex issue and that it is connected with the whole system of treaties of the Second World War. I understand everything well. But I think that there are things that are too important for Russia, for living with our great neighbors, such unique peoples. There are strategic tasks, not tactical ones. I am still a historian by first education, so I understand something about this. This opinion is not a state person, thank God, this opinion is just a citizen of Russia who would like a peaceful situation on the borders of the country and around the country in general.


“... I speak as a person, and not as a statesman” - this is already the miracle pearl of the director, following the logic of which “to live with our great neighbors” we need to be sure to territorially please them. Without transfer of territories, you understand, there is no life with neighbors. I wonder how many square meters of his personal living space does Sokurov give to his neighbors, so that he “has a peaceful atmosphere” with them? ..

In 2012, the idea of ​​transferring the southern islands of the Kuril ridge was expressed by such a gentleman as Lev Ponomarev:
We had to give, I still think so now, otherwise we will never move the issue of negotiations off the ground. As for the northern Kurile Islands, I think that it is necessary to apply to some kind of international jurisdiction.


Sergey Medvedev (journalist, professor at the HSE and, especially "nice", winner of the FSB award):
The Arctic must be saved, it should be an international reserve, and not the territory of Russia's sovereignty.


This post Sergey was noted in the microblog, and then the same idea decided to convey to the audience all the same "Echo of Moscow". But again, not all (as in the case of Albats), the audience accepted the idea of ​​Sergey with applause. Microblog readers and listeners to the above-mentioned radio suggested that Sergei Medvedev initially make an international reserve from Alaska ...

There are other people who openly argue that Russia’s territory is too large and that some of them can even be abandoned ... As an example, writer and journalist Yulia Latynina, who likes to speculate about the possible secession of the North Caucasus.

Such is the freedom of speech - the freedom to say what they please, without worrying about the consequences of statements in the style of verbal diarrhea ...
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 October 2013 08: 48
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    Albats:
    So no, I also think that God is with him, let him take it. I do not see any problem. I, frankly, do not see a particular problem and if Russia is divided along the Ural Range. I think it is inevitable ...

    Ofigela woman! Yes, it must not be allowed to enter politics or a mile! These are the pieces that will distribute Russia. And judging by her last name, she generally does not give a damn about you and me. so it’s better for us to give a damn about her.
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    2. sscha
      sscha 18 October 2013 08: 58
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      Really - full ALBAC !!! am
      hi
      1. Airman
        Airman 18 October 2013 09: 44
        68
        Quote: sscha
        Really - full ALBAC !!! am
        hi

        And why not divide it: by the legs in different directions and along the median line to the head, as a warning to others.
        1. No_more
          No_more 18 October 2013 17: 39
          +6
          No need to call for such a thing, otherwise our topwar will fall into the register of banned sites for calls directed against a specific person.
          Alas, I'm not joking. There are precedents.
        2. I am
          I am 18 October 2013 22: 30
          10
          She has a brain like a sausage, and the sausage does not have a dividing line, so it’s impossible to divide equally. Therefore, the options, cut into 4 parts, put on a stake, fry, well, and .... throw in the sun (to the people to communicate) let fry.
          (Oh, and not cultural I am today, such a suggestion). but it’s impossible in another way, either we have them, or people like her.
        3. apiarian1
          apiarian1 21 October 2013 06: 28
          +1
          I support. Good offer.
        4. Russkiy_Prapor
          Russkiy_Prapor 22 October 2013 01: 21
          +1
          Quote: Povshnik
          Quote: sscha
          Really - full ALBAC !!! am
          hi

          And why not divide it: by the legs in different directions and along the median line to the head, as a warning to others.


          It is impossible: from such a separation it dies too quickly, but it is necessary that it suffers longer, then the educational effect will be stronger.
      2. randomizer
        randomizer 18 October 2013 16: 27
        +6
        And so he lives. If he doesn’t gurgle something like that at least once a week, he will cease to be in the top, and there you look, they will cut the salary, they will trample from the post. You can’t shut it up. It is necessary to make it so beneficial for people like her to say the opposite - for such people, apart from money, nothing matters and they change their mind like a weather vane. And we get Albats as the mouthpiece of the Kremlin. In another way. Press it - the stench will not be sized)
        1. timer
          timer 18 October 2013 21: 43
          12
          I don't understand something, do we turn the media into a trash heap? Periodically there is some kind of louse, fancies himself a "politician" and even a state. activist (and neither one nor the other is not in principle) and starts babbling all sorts of crap.This is all the result of the so-called crap and tolerance. And as for Echo, sometimes I don't turn it on, then I hear an albats, then an anal one, and any opposition riffraff. It's time to reason with some of the media, otherwise they got loose! And yet, to everyone who openly says that Russia is supposedly big, it's time to share its territory, my answer is FUCKING ON THE SNOW!
          1. alexander 2
            alexander 2 19 October 2013 02: 01
            +1
            I think: since Russia is the largest, it means living in it well. Other nations voluntarily joined her. But is it time to continue this process? Indeed, many would like to live in Russia. So let them live in their own country, and at the same time in Russia.
          2. fennekRUS
            fennekRUS 20 October 2013 23: 51
            +2
            Evgenia Markovna Albats (Hebrew: הַלבַּ״ץ יֵבְגֵנִיָה בַּת מאַרק; born on September 5, 1958 in that country; died - not yet, not in this country?) - ERZ, sort of a liberal journalist. She is convinced “disagreeing” with common sense, and therefore likes to organize tantrums, scandals and cheap provocations in order to draw attention to various minorities, and especially to herself and her oh journalist, who is constantly PR at the first convenient and inconvenient occasion.(C) Lurk, or rather you will not say ..
      3. 311ove
        311ove 18 October 2013 17: 04
        +5
        I don’t know if they will let me through, I would clarify, a complete ALBERT !!!!
      4. aksakal
        aksakal 18 October 2013 21: 20
        21
        Quote: sscha
        Really - full ALBAC !!! am
        hi

        - I don’t want to be branded as an anti-Semite, but I ask you to pay attention - the political scientist Belkovsky from Guss developed a frenzied activity on the separation of Kavakaz, and just yesterday I saw that most of the members of the forum were already "under Belkovsky." Oh, another "gusskaya" political scientist is already declaring about the Trans-Ural lands. Don't see any trends? Excuse me, gentlemen, but if in the near future you will not disappear in Russia shaven-headed guys aimed at enmity with people with very dark skin, and instead of them there will be no guys "imprisoned" to fight other, much more sophisticated foreigners, in the past they are remembered under the name of some "hundreds", I don't remember any more, then Russia in the future will have very big problems. Very big.
        And I would exchange this problem with Israel, moreover, easily, without any problems at all. First, I would have helped Syria in general, so I would have developed a frenzied activity alongside Syria to help Hezbollah and several other interesting organizations, to organize real, serious help, and then, when Israel would start to wonder what was the matter, quickly I would explain to them that Israel would shut up the mouth of all these albino Albanians with the hands of its vaunted Mossad and take all these gentlemen walking in the deserts in white, and that before that these gentlemen would hand over Russian assets to their rightful owner - the people Of Russia.
        To be honest, even me, a resident of a neighboring state, really zaebala this ebanaya democracy with its freedom of speech, when every stinking one (here, a three-letter word, the first letter is "F") can say complete nonsense to the whole of Russia, and with complete impunity. It's time to end this democracy, to end with a hot iron. Pampered for 20 years and waking up.
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 October 2013 21: 29
          0
          Quote: aksakal
          so that Israel would shut up the mouth of all these albino Albanians with the hands of its vaunted Mossad and take all these gentlemen to itself,

          In general, they are citizens of Russia, not Israel, and live in Russia, broadcast on the Russian media, by the way, at least shut your mouth to begin with Novordvorskaya or Latynina. Or Israel’s help is also required laughing
          By the way, are you in my opinion with Kazakhstan? A strange problem tormenting you, I would not want to start to restore order in my country? Understand at least the income of the Nazarbayev clan?
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 18 October 2013 23: 07
            15
            Quote: atalef
            In general, as they are citizens of Russia,
            - I agree, here you are right - it is urgent to develop a law on the automatic deprivation of Russian citizenship for public and, moreover, insulting anti-Russian statements. Since it’s no longer climbing into any gates that all trash does not value this citizenship, it openly and cynically uses the presence of this citizenship to achieve the goals set by forces alien and hostile to Russia. I hope the Russians solve this problem. By the way, if anything, the Snowman administration deprived of citizenship very quickly, even at that moment when it was far from clear with Snowden that he had run away or was stolen, only on the basis of only unclear and vague suspicions. Democracy in action, as they say.

            Quote: atalef
            A strange problem tormenting you, I would not want to start to restore order in my country? Understand at least the income of the Nazarbayev clan?
            - why strange? Boris Giller, the founder of the Kazakh newspaper "Karavan", very well at one time began to rock the boat, but barely carried his legs away. Mashkevich got his hands on the entire metallurgical industry of Kazakhstan ... I don’t want to list all these blavatnikov-tovsteins-Belovich-blacks, I don’t like it when foreigners control Kazakhstani assets and I feel solidarity with the Russians on this issue. Roughly speaking - they will not cope with this scourge - we definitely will not cope. Therefore, I clench my fists and root for them. In fact, Israelis are proud of their intelligence - here I am somehow stunned that
            Quote: atalef
            A strange problem torments you
            - still lies on the surface. As for Nazarbayev, the forum users will confirm that he never had a reverence for the President of his country, hell even with him, with theft, but when the brother-in-law rolls to impunity banditry - and I spoke about this more than once, don’t worry about me, BUT! Firstly, Nazarbayev is quite professional in his foreign policy, as it’s already the fifth dozen in big politics, the dog, which is called ate, was in power in another political and economic formation, was in the years of the complete absence of any formation and is still involved in politics, and I don’t see a professional change, even if where Someone confuses a personal caramel with a state one, for a NON-PROFESSIONAL, who will confuse these pockets even worse, and he will also break firewood. If anything, the small territorial and political formation south of my country during the PERMANENT REVOLUTIONS THIS VISUALLY showed! So
            Quote: atalef
            Understand at least the income of the Nazarbayev clan?
            there is no such desire.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 18 October 2013 23: 11
              +6
              Quote: aksakal
              there is no such desire.

              - And also - IMPORTANT! I do not consider the President of my country, the President of Kazakhstan, worse than the leaders of other countries, lovers of large beds on the plane, and I certainly think Nazarbayev is much more decent than other LOVERS to force their own secretaries. You will agree with me, Atalef? And you must agree that no matter what he is, this Nazarbayev, this is our President, we will figure it out ourselves. SENT ASHER?
              1. atalef
                atalef 19 October 2013 00: 51
                -2
                Quote: aksakal
                Quote: aksakal
                there is no such desire.

                - And also - IMPORTANT! I do not consider the President of my country, the President of Kazakhstan, worse than the leaders of other countries, lovers of large beds on the plane, and I certainly think Nazarbayev is much more decent than other LOVERS to force their own secretaries. You will agree with me, Atalef? And you must agree that no matter what he is, this Nazarbayev, this is our President, we will figure it out ourselves. SENT ASHER?

                Of course, only ours is in prison for a crime, and yours for billions (earned - understandably by honest labor - he and his family) enjoys the well-deserved honor and respect of the elders laughing
                By the way, about the message, it’s not clear, like when the talk about Israel is over, you are at the head of your attack in the forefront, and how you touch Nazarbayev is not touched. You are no different from me (though I don’t know if you have Russian citizenship, like mine). You sit in your Kazakhstan and think that it’s just the center of the universe and you can teach everyone (including Russians) laughing
              2. atalef
                atalef 19 October 2013 14: 26
                +3
                Quote: aksakal
                And yet - IMPORTANT! I do not consider the President of my country, the President of Kazakhstan, worse than the leaders of other countries, lovers of large beds on the plane, and I certainly think Nazarbayev is much more decent than other LOVERS to force their own secretaries

                I think the people of Kazakhstan preferred. so that they would put a bed for 5 bucks on the prime minister’s plane (which, by the way, because of my moron, the indignation of the press would not have been installed), or that he would quietly spend his secretaries. whatever he and his family would steal in billions.
                By the way, I remind you of our --- in prison. Your

                Quote: aksakal
                Firstly, Nazarbayev is quite professional in his foreign policy, as already the fifth ten in big politics,

                laughing

                Quote: aksakal
                the dog is called ate

                did the cook tell you this?


                Quote: aksakal
                even if somewhere confuses personal karamin with state one, on the NON-PROFESSIONAL, which will confuse these pockets even worse

                That's because of people like you, they stole. they steal and will steal, first PROFESSIONALS, then their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, and you continue to look for Jews and fight against the Zionists in ..... in Israel laughing
            2. atalef
              atalef 19 October 2013 00: 45
              0
              Understand at least the income of the Nazarbayev clan?

              aksakal wrote
              there is no such desire

              and in this I understand you perfectly, it’s much easier to teach Russians from Kazakhstan, to search for Zionist conspiracies and the Jewish underground, than to ask about obvious things that are happening in their native Kazakhstan, well, it’s understandable, there are gavriks, white pens are twisted and it’s kind of hard from the zone knock on the clave.
            3. atalef
              atalef 19 October 2013 14: 19
              +2
              Quote: aksakal
              By the way, if anything, the Snowman administration deprived of citizenship very quickly, even at that moment when it was far from clear with Snowden that he had run away or was stolen, only on the basis of only unclear and vague suspicions. Democracy in action, as they say.

              Snowden was not deprived of citizenship; his passport was canceled. The difference is pretty big

              Quote: aksakal
              Boris Giller, the founder of the Kazakh newspaper "Karavan", very well at one time began to rock the boat, but barely took his legs

              rock the boat. when did it touch the grandmothers of the Nazarbayev family? Not all - aksakal, are sitting in his boat, there are those who are behind her
              Will you comment?
              1. ekzorsist
                ekzorsist 19 October 2013 18: 50
                +3
                atalef
                Here you hit not the eyebrow, but the eye of the "great" Kazakhstan .....
                Nazarbayev is for the Kazakhs - the idol of the nation!
                And in other things ... the very structure of "independent" Kazakhstan - steal (if you are a national cadre), steal even more (if you are a national cadre) and don't worry - you are a national cadre.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 19 October 2013 19: 34
                  +3
                  Quote: aksakal
                  As a politician, he is a cut above your politicians, especially this netanyahu - be proud of him further

                  He served and fought in special forces, and has no billions. His son studied with my friend’s daughter in a regular school, and then went to serve in the army like everyone else (and even sat on his lip for being late), I don’t support Natanyagu in everything, but he’s definitely not a THief !!!
                  Quote: aksakal
                  And about the one who is in prison. Yours is sitting, our son-in-law of the president stupidly fled to Europe and will not be extradited.

                  What about his wife? Maybe they confiscated their jointly acquired property? or at least half, in favor of the Kazakhstan pension fund? Doesn’t it appear in the video? And with others, how?
                  Quote: aksakal
                  . Conclusion - all the roots of crime are in the West and in Israel.

                  Conclusion one people hawala, seize with a bishbarmak and drink it with koumiss
                  Quote: aksakal
                  So once again I recommend looking at your ass and once again I recommend staying away.

                  From the sexual minorities of Kazakhstan? Thank you, aksakal, I will consider, I will bypass your yurt wassat
                2. Symbiotos
                  Symbiotos 21 October 2013 01: 03
                  +3
                  It seems to me alone that atalef (2) moves off the topic and floods brutally ?!
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 19 October 2013 19: 06
                +3
                Listen, Atalef, with thieves, if he is a thief, we’ll figure it out without the sons of Israel, so please proceed on a difficult erotic journey. Least of all I want to see yours here when we’ll sort it out. And if God forbid, because of the turbulences in Kazakhstan, the ears of your special services or all these Albanians stick out - take offense at yourself, let’s remember you and Goloshchekin. Good advice - stay away from us away. And from the Russians, with whom they lived side by side for 70 years and with whom the Germans (by the way, and with the Jews, by the way, only Jews know how to forget such things when it’s beneficial, which really doesn’t paint your brother purely humanly) were beaten in the hardest battles World War II - would also hold on. You are only asked to leave Eurasia and focus on your region. Just!
                As for Nazarbayev - as for the Eurasian Union, he proposed back in the early 90s. As a politician, he is a cut above your politicians, especially this netanyahu - be proud of him further laughing
                And about the one who is in prison. Yours is sitting, our son-in-law of the president stupidly fled to Europe and will not be extradited. Conclusion - all the roots of crime are in the West and in Israel. So once again I recommend looking at your ass and once again I recommend staying away.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 19 October 2013 19: 33
                  0
                  Quote: aksakal
                  Listen, Atalef,

                  That's right - listen, I’m not grazing sheep with you
                  Quote: aksakal
                  if he is a thief, we’ll figure it out without the sons of Israel,

                  of course. understand yourselves and yours, we were not there and do not go to us, otherwise you see a speck in others in your eye you don’t notice the logs. By the way, and when you begin to deal with your own - maybe at least an approximate date, at least indicate a year laughing
                  Quote: aksakal
                  .And if God forbid to see that because of the turbulence in Kazakhstan, the ears of your special services or all these Albats stick out

                  Are we helping the Nazarbayev clan to steal - or do you say honest work has earned his daughter billions? The same 50 years in politics and the same dog ate?
                  Quote: aksakal
                  . Good advice - stay away from us.

                  Yes, much further, although the presence of Israel on planet Earth interferes with your sleep.
                  Quote: aksakal
                  . And from the Russians

                  and who are you to indicate for 2 states? Understand in your Kazakhstan that you’re climbing into Russia?
                  Quote: aksakal
                  beaten in the hardest battles of World War II

                  My 2 grandfathers - YES, yours - I do not know
                  Quote: aksakal
                  They just ask you to leave Eurasia

                  Are you asking for something? But who the hell you are ?
                  Quote: aksakal
                  As for Nazarbayev - as for the Eurasian Union, he proposed back in the early 90s.

                  Yes, when on the drum, do you comment on the video, or the anus bench press?
                2. igor67
                  igor67 19 October 2013 21: 01
                  -2
                  Quote: aksakal
                  Listen, Atalef, with thieves, if he is a thief, we’ll figure it out without the sons of Israel, so please proceed on a difficult erotic journey. Least of all I want to see yours here when we’ll sort it out. And if God forbid, because of the turbulences in Kazakhstan, the ears of your special services or all these Albanians stick out - take offense at yourself, let’s remember you and Goloshchekin. Good advice - stay away from us away. And from the Russians, with whom they lived side by side for 70 years and with whom the Germans (by the way, and with the Jews, by the way, only Jews know how to forget such things when it’s beneficial, which really doesn’t paint your brother purely humanly) were beaten in the hardest battles World War II - would also hold on. You are only asked to leave Eurasia and focus on your region. Just!
                  As for Nazarbayev - as for the Eurasian Union, he proposed back in the early 90s. As a politician, he is a cut above your politicians, especially this netanyahu - be proud of him further laughing
                  And about the one who is in prison. Yours is sitting, our son-in-law of the president stupidly fled to Europe and will not be extradited. Conclusion - all the roots of crime are in the West and in Israel. So once again I recommend looking at your ass and once again I recommend staying away.

                  Listen to Aksakal, you don’t tie up the Russians, but watch only for yourself that I doubt that you are a Kazakh, I haven’t ruined my country in the 80s, there were a lot of Kazakh friends with Atbasar and Kokchetava and Alma Ata, how much we are together and passed and drank, corresponded, until all the same the country fell apart, there wasn’t even a hint of national hatred, and you are simply angry and the Jews are naturally to blame, look at yourself first
          2. F117
            F117 22 October 2013 12: 25
            0
            Yes, they are citizens of Russia, but at the same time, in a pile of other documents, 80% of these "citizens" have a similar document in Hebrew.
            As for Kazakhstan, this country shows the largest increase in industrial production among all post-Soviet countries. At the moment, Kazakhstan is in the top 50 industrial countries, and if the current growth rates are maintained, by 2030 it will reach the 30th line of the rating. And here the greatest "thanks" should be said to the "Nazarbayev clan".
        2. timer
          timer 18 October 2013 21: 46
          -1
          I support. My comment is from above, in the same vein.
        3. crisis
          crisis 19 October 2013 00: 32
          -1
          I like it so much I would) fellow
          1. Black
            Black 19 October 2013 00: 48
            +1
            Quote: crisis
            I like it so much I would)

            What do you like?
        4. ekzorsist
          ekzorsist 19 October 2013 18: 32
          +1
          WELL DONE!!!!!
          I would rather not speak out!
          SMART !!!
        5. apiarian1
          apiarian1 21 October 2013 06: 30
          +1
          And with you I agree, for two legs and split.
      5. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 19 October 2013 12: 22
        0
        Liberasty and tolerance, betrayal - diseases can be cured using the method of Dr. Guillotin.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 09: 00
      71

      Albats:
      So no, I also think that God is with him, let him take it. I do not see any problem. I, frankly, do not see a particular problem and if Russia is divided along the Ural Range. I think it is inevitable ...


      I do not understand why, this is a trash with a "Russian" surname, walks calmly on our land. Why they are not thrown out by depriving them of citizenship.

      Sergey Medvedev (journalist, professor at the HSE and, especially "nice", winner of the FSB award):
      The Arctic must be saved, it should be an international reserve, and not the territory of Russia's sovereignty.

      And you can find out why IT received an award from the FSB. What kind of award is the Judas of the Year or is it really for a contribution to strengthening the interests of Russia?

      As an example, writer and journalist Yulia Latynina, who likes to speculate about a possible secession of the North Caucasus.
      That’s whom parents did drunk. Russian citizen laughing
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        1. Lech from our city
          Lech from our city 18 October 2013 09: 08
          10
          so that the prosecutor did not have time to solder the forum member for inciting hatred smile
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 18 October 2013 09: 20
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I do not understand why, this is a trash with a "Russian" surname, walks calmly on our land. Why they are not thrown out by depriving them of citizenship.

        And you ask Putin. He also loves to bother with the Jewish Museum of Tolerance with Berl Lazar.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 09: 29
          20
          Quote: baltika-18
          And you ask Putin.

          Yes, I would ask, yes ktozh let me to him with such questions.
          1. ben gun
            ben gun 18 October 2013 09: 50
            15
            Ask on the direct line) you will become the Plenipotentiary as Kholmanskikh)
            1. IRBIS
              IRBIS 18 October 2013 10: 11
              30
              Quote: ben gun
              Ask on the direct line) you will become the Plenipotentiary as Kholmanskikh)

              Yeah, on Franz Josef Land ... There just is not enough ambassador, they do not survive there.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 18 October 2013 11: 23
                18
                Quote: IRBIS
                Yeah, on Franz Josef Land ... There just is not enough ambassador, they do not survive there.

                Nothing is new in this world ...
                It was an idea at the very beginning of the 50 of the last century to organize a reserve of advocates of freedom of speech, who were overly happy about the arrival of Golda Meir in the USSR, in Taimyr.
                You look, and there will be "... you remember that Vanino port, and the scream of the steamer sullen ..." with the screen saver of the "Echo Matza" radio, broadcasting from those reserved places - clean air, virgin nature, all around the sea. And most importantly, it is far from Fukushima.
                What is not a resort? laughing
          2. baltika-18
            baltika-18 18 October 2013 11: 43
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, I would ask, yes ktozh let me to him with such questions.

            So after 282 they can roll up.
        2. igor67
          igor67 18 October 2013 11: 19
          11
          Quote: baltika-18
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I do not understand why, this is a trash with a "Russian" surname, walks calmly on our land. Why they are not thrown out by depriving them of citizenship.

          And you ask Putin. He also loves to bother with the Jewish Museum of Tolerance with Berl Lazar.

          I am also tormented by vague doubts about why I constantly communicate with the Chief Rabbi, if Israel, thank God, is still a secular state and could perfectly pose with the chairman of the secular organization of the Russian-Israeli Society,
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 11: 51
            +2
            Quote: igor67
            I am also tormented by vague doubts why I constantly communicate with the Chief Rabbi

            Hello, Igor! When Putin came to you, he didn’t cut off anything by accident. Maybe you have some rumors, but we don’t know wink
            1. igor67
              igor67 18 October 2013 13: 09
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: igor67
              I am also tormented by vague doubts why I constantly communicate with the Chief Rabbi

              Hello, Igor! When Putin came to you, he didn’t cut off anything by accident. Maybe you have some rumors, but we don’t know wink

              And he came two times, so that doublet Romanovich
            2. crisis
              crisis 19 October 2013 00: 37
              0
              so you dear, too, can come maybe you also want to cut something wink
          2. INVESTOR
            INVESTOR 18 October 2013 13: 28
            -3
            Society requires change, I hope that after the Olympics in Sochi, things will move forward.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 13: 50
              +3
              Quote: INVESTOR
              Society requires change, I hope that after the Olympics in Sochi, things will move forward.

              Question: Who in general threw this chip with changes in the country after Sochi?
      3. Revolver
        Revolver 18 October 2013 09: 47
        36
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And you can find out why IT received an award from the FSB. What kind of award is the Judas of the Year or is it really for a contribution to strengthening the interests of Russia?
        Under Stalin and Beria, the NKVD also awarded bonuses for such statements. A trip to the far northeast "all inclusive", well, there are bunks, gruel, exercise in the fresh air with a shovel or pick there, etc. And those who distinguished themselves especially received the prize with cash lead in the back of the head.
      4. Airman
        Airman 18 October 2013 10: 57
        12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        [B]


        [b] As an example, writer and journalist Yulia Latynina, who likes to speculate about a possible secession of the North Caucasus.
        That’s whom parents did drunk. Russian citizen laughing
        [/B]

        Yes, they didn’t make her drunk, it’s the victim of a failed abortion, her brains were removed.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 18 October 2013 11: 11
          13
          Quote: Povshnik
          That’s whom parents did drunk. Russian citizen
          [/B]
          Yes, they didn’t make her drunk, it’s the victim of a failed abortion, her brains were removed.


          No guys, it's not like that ...
          Such people are only made with a finger - an old, good Jewish custom ... laughing
        2. fedorovith
          fedorovith 18 October 2013 13: 14
          +3
          She just gave birth while standing .....
      5. plantagenet
        plantagenet 18 October 2013 11: 35
        0
        "As an example, the writer and journalist Yulia Latynina, who likes to speculate about the possible secession of the North Caucasus."
        You know, it seems to me a few more years that the majority of the population of Russia (if they do not already dream about it) will dream of separating the North Caucasus.
      6. silver_roman
        silver_roman 18 October 2013 11: 43
        15
        reading all this and understand the essence of all this, only one method begs. although I don’t like violence, but somehow:
      7. Very old
        Very old 18 October 2013 12: 55
        +2
        No comments, I don’t want to spend the rest of the days behind ... For incitement, etc.
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      9. alex popov
        alex popov 18 October 2013 20: 43
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        That’s whom parents did drunk. Russian citizen laughing

        and they don't follow the words at all. What for? The opinion is simple. They will support them, the rest, there is no point in reckoning with them ... These, if I may say so, "citizens" absolutely do not hesitate to call the country "CPA" (forgive me, but I am writing literally), and Navalny "is the only hope of this oh country ". The quote is absolutely literal. I have a really wild feeling that they are picked for negative IQ. sometimes such pearls betray that you don't know whether to cry or laugh.
        another phrase about a happy future: "... when the thieves sit down and those we choose come to power ..." When they are asked who they are going to choose in the "oh country" ... mate, dear dons. Solid mat.
        Sharikovism and Shvonderism reign in the open spaces of the Runet among the "bulk sect" and those who have joined.
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    4. os9165
      os9165 18 October 2013 09: 10
      15
      She does what she is allowed to do. Holding Gazprom-Media - systematically allows. I have doubts that Gazprom is our EVERYTHING. Who do you work for OJSC? Isn't it time to put things in order there?
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 18 October 2013 18: 25
        +3
        Quote: os9165
        Who do you work for OJSC?
    5. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 18 October 2013 09: 12
      40
      No matter how one she rushes about with such an idea. Well, at least: the islands of China, the shelf of Norway, mountain pastures to Azerbaijan.
      1. a52333
        a52333 18 October 2013 09: 29
        20
        He has already received a black mark. Politically, he is already a corpse.
        1. Starfish
          Starfish 18 October 2013 10: 10
          -4
          when will his master be a political corpse?
          maybe when the stubborn will understand it?
          1. Starfish
            Starfish 18 October 2013 13: 14
            +5
            By cons, you acknowledge that his master is the Guarantor, otherwise you would put the pluses - if you really thought that he was a protege of the liberals and his master the West
          2. Far East
            Far East 18 October 2013 13: 37
            +5
            Quote: Starfish
            when will his master be a political corpse?
            maybe when the stubborn will understand it?

            dear, it is for sho you were so "awarded" for not friendly views to PU laughing hi
            1. Starfish
              Starfish 18 October 2013 14: 01
              +5
              I welcome you too hi

              "" it was for sho you were so "awarded" for not friendly views to PU ""

              I’ll try to explain, the patriots are now divided into 3 groups:
              1st — those who are in everything and always for Putin, respect for steadfastness, regret for the inability to realize everything that is happening as a whole, and not in parts;
              2nd — those who are against the Guarantor, who initially did not believe or were disappointed;
              3rd - undecided, their majority
              the first clearly put the cons, the second pluses, the third just follow the prevailing at the moment
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 09: 47
        +3
        Quote: Kibalchish
        islands to China

        This is Putin!
        Quote: Kibalchish
        mountain pastures to Azerbaijan.

        There is generally Chench
      3. Novoyur
        Novoyur 18 October 2013 12: 42
        22
        Shevarnadze presented the USA with his personal stroke the shelf of the Aleutian Islands, in which our fishermen fished and are now deprived of it. Medvedev presented the water and shelf of the Barents Sea, where the Norwegians found rich oil deposits. Royal gifts. And who makes similar gifts to Russia, no one. so why should we do this. and all because not mine. I wouldn’t give my personal for anything. You have to punish for it. and Stalin must be returned.
        1. pint45
          pint45 18 October 2013 13: 35
          +4
          Surely Daddy Joe is not on them.
      4. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 18 October 2013 18: 29
        +4
        Quote: Kibalchish
        islands to China, the shelf of Norway, mountain pastures to Azerbaijan.
    6. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 18 October 2013 09: 35
      19
      according to US laws, this girl can already be prosecuted, our toothless rumblers didn’t even open their mouths, it’s not for nothing that such a scream was raised by foreign agents, lists should be available, grantees, who, from whom and when, I would like to see a report how the relevant law from the executive branch is executed. (my list is already outdated, by the way, who has the link reset.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 18 October 2013 09: 53
        11
        Quote: nov_tech.vrn
        under US law, this girl can already be prosecuted,

        No, it’s unlikely to be criminal, the First Amendment to the Constitution will be referred to - you won’t dig. But they lost their jobs on TV because of less.
      2. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 18 October 2013 14: 16
        0
        Quote: nov_tech.vrn




        under the laws of the United States this girl

        and we have =
        Deideologized [b] (secular) [/b] states - there is no official ideology here. In ideologized states, the entire functioning of the state is determined by the prevailing ideology. In particular, a person’s ability to participate in the activities of the state, etc., depends on his views on state ideology.


        [b] The status of a secular state was constitutionally secured by the Russian Federation, Germany, France. [/ b]
        1. nickname 1 and 2
          nickname 1 and 2 18 October 2013 14: 20
          0
          And since the state. there is no ideology, and every one sculpts something on which the head hangs from a hangover.

          The point is the constitution. Yelkin wanted to fall in love with the world!
          something like this....
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 18 October 2013 18: 33
            -1
            Quote: nick 1 and 2
            Deideologized (secular) state
    7. os9165
      os9165 18 October 2013 09: 37
      +8
      It is necessary to act as Lukashenko tears and lowers right away. Real man! Http: //www.youtube.com/watch? Feature = player_embedded & v = IcZfRGGcxYM And what prevents us from dealing with Gazprom Media Holding. GDP is waiting for action.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 18 October 2013 17: 29
        +1
        Putin: now is not 37 years old.
    8. SolomonSS
      SolomonSS 18 October 2013 09: 40
      25
      In Russia, freedom of speech has become the cries of mentally ill people, for which the psychiatric hospital is crying.
    9. ben gun
      ben gun 18 October 2013 09: 45
      +6
      She and her kind of people should not be allowed out of politics, but not kept out of the microphones of the media, the Internet, etc. somewhere in the Arctic where it’s freshly awkward and not hot, and in Moscow they already have brains melting from the heat and a lot of people.
      Z.Y. I wonder who these two people are and why did they put two minuses in this article-note?
    10. SHILO
      SHILO 18 October 2013 09: 48
      35
      Venediktov: "How much are Russia - Mother talking about?"
      1. avt
        avt 18 October 2013 10: 50
        25
        Quote: SHILO
        Venediktov: "How much are Russia - Mother talking about?"

        good Well, how can we now relate to the concept of “Enemy of the People?” How to paranoia or objective reality?
        1. Manager
          Manager 18 October 2013 11: 04
          14
          Quote: avt
          Well, now how to relate to the concept of "enemy of the people"?

          What are you! After all, we have a Tolerant Free Country! You can be an enemy of the people, a traitor, the main thing is not to shout that Russia is for the Russians! For this article immediately. And everything else is in the norm of a developed society!
          1. ben gun
            ben gun 18 October 2013 12: 24
            +2
            Quote: Manager
            What are you! After all, we have a Tolerant Free Country! You can be an enemy of the people, a traitor, the main thing is not

            the main thing is to be a handshake, respect the rights and freedoms and the rights of all cabbage rolls and pink nauseous ladies in the world, etc. that they still appreciate so much.
    11. Starfish
      Starfish 18 October 2013 10: 08
      +9
      yeah really. with such surnames, it’s time for them to go to the promised land and call to give East Jerusalem to the Palestinians, to give the Golan to Syria.
      it’s high time to introduce the possibility of deprivation of citizenship and expulsion from the country of all kinds of albats and the like of pigs
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 18 October 2013 10: 24
        +8
        Duc, there her decent Jews have their womb turned inside out, Where is the "Honest Jew" with his comments!
      2. igor67
        igor67 18 October 2013 11: 12
        13
        Quote: Starfish
        yeah really. with such surnames, it’s time for them to go to the promised land and call to give East Jerusalem to the Palestinians, to give the Golan to Syria.
        it’s high time to introduce the possibility of deprivation of citizenship and expulsion from the country of all kinds of albats and the like of pigs

        Nah necessary, there are enough baltuns, send them to public construction
        1. alone
          alone 18 October 2013 21: 36
          +3
          Quote: igor67
          Nah necessary, there are enough baltuns, send them to public construction


          always want to shove someone their talkers))
    12. Rustam
      Rustam 18 October 2013 10: 21
      +4
      You accentuated the author of one word of a person (Albats) who constantly reviles our power and licks the device in the USA!

      I advise you to watch the broadcast - Albats, of course, there was no luck there-Venediktov replaced the late host and completely smeared Albats (she was already upset at the end)
      Since all the problems that Albats raised were immediately denied by Venediktov (after all, she was used to telling us that it’s bad and there’s good, but there’s no problem there either)

      So you need to respond less to such figures

      I advise you to look-http: //www.echo.msk.ru/programs/personalno/1177008-echo/#video
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 18 October 2013 11: 16
        +8
        Quote: Rustam
        So you need to respond less to such figures

        This is an inevitable natural phenomenon, a kind of banal force majeure.
        And although they beat in the face, and not a passport, such as Albzdets, Svinidze together with Pozzman, etc. should be included in the list of permanent and banal bastards ... fellow
        1. tomas.09
          tomas.09 18 October 2013 15: 02
          0
          I welcome the fellow countryman !!!
    13. Civil
      Civil 18 October 2013 10: 38
      +1
      Give them to the Chinese :-)
    14. vadimus
      vadimus 18 October 2013 11: 20
      +2
      And who shows them at all? Let dumb boots on kalym darn ....
    15. plantagenet
      plantagenet 18 October 2013 11: 48
      0
      "Yes, she should not be allowed into politics and a mile."
      But does she occupy some sort of political post?
    16. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 18 October 2013 12: 26
      0
      No wonder the heading was inserted: Miscarriage! freedom of speech. Why did she get pregnant with such a miscarriage, maybe it was a gang rape ?! What are you guys? abroad
    17. slav4ikus
      slav4ikus 18 October 2013 12: 48
      +3
      let him bring down to his small homeland and there he divides it into how many parts he wants, if anyone allows her
    18. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 18 October 2013 13: 58
      +5
      all the same, Comrade Stalin is not enough, well, not enough, and that's it ...
    19. dark_65
      dark_65 18 October 2013 20: 09
      +3
      read her fucking ... biography, this creature .... you shouldn’t be allowed on the air at all. to attract all your possibilities, who is with me?
    20. alex popov
      alex popov 18 October 2013 20: 35
      0
      Is this not the same Albats that arranged oval in Iel?
    21. brelok
      brelok 19 October 2013 06: 32
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      Ofigela woman! Yes, it must not be allowed to enter politics or a mile!

      Alas, this is not her phrase! This idea was proposed by the Americans and British back to Kolchak in 1918. By the way, he was not against it!
    22. donchepano
      donchepano 19 October 2013 14: 56
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      such in pieces and will distribute Russia.


      The country is moving towards it ...
      In general, do we have a law on liability for the collapse of the country and pushing for collapse or not?
      These statements of the Albzatsev, Benediktovs and Belkovskys just contribute to the germination of seeds of discord, disintegration and collapse of OUR, and not "THEIR countries !!
    23. ekzorsist
      ekzorsist 19 October 2013 18: 27
      +1
      Could it be that this "Albzatz" could be given somewhere else?
      And it is better in parts ... first the language, then the brains ... or vice versa, this and that person are superfluous.
    24. pamero
      pamero 21 October 2013 13: 50
      0
      you need to spit it.
    25. Rusich51
      Rusich51 22 October 2013 18: 52
      0
      This Albac on the count. Let it be divided in half in the Urals. Our ancestors multiplied Russia, and these victims of abortion distribute it.
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  3. mixxlll
    mixxlll 18 October 2013 08: 50
    11
    Such must be collected on the Russian island or to their owners send !!!!
    But I think that there are things that are too important for Russia, for living with our great neighbors, such unique peoples.
    Yes violet, on such neighbors and such a people.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 09: 03
      +9
      Quote: mixxlll
      Such must be collected on the Russian island

      Yes, you really think that Russky Island will become a hell for them, there’s a land of gold there. How did you think of sending them there.
      1. ben gun
        ben gun 18 October 2013 09: 48
        +9
        Kudanid to Novaya Zemlya, conduct meteorological observations. With a change every six months, and preferably a year. The entire brave collective of authors of "Moscow Ear" on a business trip to a new land. Think in peace and quiet about life and vanity.
    2. UVB
      UVB 18 October 2013 09: 27
      14
      What about. Russian? Railway Salekhard- Igarka to reanimate, that would be good!
      1. Armata
        Armata 18 October 2013 09: 48
        19
        Che you all send, send. In chemistry and let her go there Moscow benefits, but only in silence. Why do we need all this garbage behind the Ural ridge? Yesterday I spent only 7 hours in Moscow, and my desire is still to wash myself off from the stale air of this city.
      2. yastr
        yastr 22 October 2013 17: 01
        0
        There is no railway to Magadan yet :)
    3. niksup
      niksup 18 October 2013 09: 58
      +4
      better to relocate to the New Earth.
  4. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 18 October 2013 08: 50
    20
    No, no, tryndyat. Why not close them, even listeners of the echoes of phishington start to go crazy. There is one elderly aunt, who is still the last virgin of the policy of politics, she will not graduate. The more they say their thoughts, the better for all of us, because the enemy must be known in person, and it is not always necessary to beat that person. Somehow squeamish, or something.
    1. Luga
      Luga 18 October 2013 15: 47
      11
      I read somewhere, I don’t remember where. During the Second World War, the Germans bombarded our trenches with their leaflets. In different parts, they reacted differently to such propaganda.
      1-th method was that the soldiers who were found leaflets, even if they were used exclusively for cigarette rolls, were given to the tribunal. Sometimes in a place with commanders and political officers.
      2-th method - they collected leaflets, did not use punitive methods, limited themselves to saying that it was all nonsense and did not noticeably notice it.
      3-th method - public reading of Lithuanians and analysis of their contents in front of units. The analysis was carried out in an ironic, mocking manner, so that the personnel had fun.
      The latter method is the most effective, but, of course, requires some preparation for the political officer and creative approach.
      To defeat the strong one needs to be strong.
      To defeat the smart you need to be smart.
      To defeat a fool - just laugh at him.

      I will make my contribution.
      Ms. Albats, having returned home in the evening, had already undressed and went to bed when the door of her wardrobe quietly opened and a Chinese man appeared in the room like a shadow. Quietly he entered, she thought. Without moving (suddenly she would not notice), she lay in bed, relaxed, with a thumping heart and could not sleep. The Chinese did not leave, on the contrary, through narrowed eyes, she saw the door of her wardrobe slowly open and three more appeared from it. The Chinese carefully surrounded her bed and one of them, the smallest, deftly crawled under the covers to her. "He enters! And enters very seriously!" - flashed a panicky thought, immediately obscured by ecstasy ... A few minutes later, opening her eyes, she saw that the other three lined up at her bed in line. "Fight or reckon?" - the thought was not my own, but it sounded distinctly in my head. "To be considered, because we cannot fight China - this is already clear. And in the morning I have an air on Echo of Moscow, with Venidiktov." Ecstasy overshadowed this thought too ...
  5. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 18 October 2013 08: 52
    12
    By the way, Evgenia Albats in her thoughts about the "inevitable" division of Russia is not alone.


    At us in NOVOSIBIRSK such foolish idiots I have not met yet.
    Although the division according to the CLASS AND FINANCIAL situation in RUSSIA has long happened.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 18 October 2013 09: 13
      +4
      There are no morons in Novosib!
  6. Stiletto
    Stiletto 18 October 2013 08: 52
    11
    At the entrance to the studio of these comrades, a funnel was to wait. And by the evening, after a short trial ...
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 18 October 2013 10: 15
      +9
      Quote: Stiletto
      And by the evening, after a short trial ...

      And in the morning, after a sudden exacerbation of the disease ....
      1. ekzorsist
        ekzorsist 19 October 2013 18: 58
        0
        IRBIS
        NO here until morning to wait !!!
        Dokhtur said in the morgh ... MEAN IN MORGH and urgently!
  7. kaktus
    kaktus 18 October 2013 08: 53
    14
    only I believe that it is time to use the relevant article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation am People who consider themselves sane should think that they blather, and be responsible for their words. negative
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      1. anip
        anip 18 October 2013 09: 13
        32
        Quote: Kibalchish
        These "sane people" have long had two or three passports. You can't plant them so easily.

        But it would be nice to pass a law, if you have dual citizenship, then you don’t have the right to engage in politics in the Russian Federation, otherwise, a punishment of 5 years. And how many even in a thought sit with passports of Israel, the USA, England. How can foreigners manage the Russian Federation? It’s clear how.
        And about US citizenship in general, you need to: get US citizenship - you automatically lose your citizenship of the Russian Federation, because when you get US citizenship, an oath is taken that states that US interests are above all and that a US citizen should act primarily in the interests of the United States.
        1. lotar
          lotar 18 October 2013 09: 33
          +9
          To this, we can add that these deputies have real estate abroad, their children in most cases study at foreign universities, they work tirelessly to improve the financial life of their families and relatives, and they ride again abroad at state expense (we are you), organize public events in the same way at public expense, etc.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 09: 44
            +3
            Quote: lotar
            To this, we can add that these deputies have real estate abroad, their children in most cases study at foreign universities, they work tirelessly to improve the financial life of their families and relatives, and they ride again abroad at state expense (we are you), organize public events in the same way at public expense, etc.

            The funny thing is that for most of these deputies we ourselves voted good
            1. Manager
              Manager 18 October 2013 11: 05
              +8
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The funny thing is that for most of these deputies we ourselves voted

              The funny thing is that we voted for them without going to the polls. It's simple, did not come, your voice will go for the one they need.
    2. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 18 October 2013 09: 42
      +4
      Do we have an article for such statements? recourse
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 10: 27
        +6
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Do we have an article for such statements? recourse

        You can fit a few. Yes, no one will give a command.
        1. polly
          polly 18 October 2013 13: 35
          +2
          "If a person does not understand when he was warned in an amicable way, let him sit in prison. In my opinion, there is even such an article in the Criminal Code, I do not remember the number."
          What is not a team? Guess three times who humored? laughing
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 19 October 2013 04: 03
        0
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Do we have an article for such statements? recourse
        As they used to say in the past, "if only a good man was, but there would be an article." fellow
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  8. major071
    major071 18 October 2013 08: 54
    15
    Reading the title of the article, the thought immediately flashed through me: "What kind of village is this selling Russia?" From the article I found out what kind of s.ka. Another political, God forgive me, with limited thinking, how did Venediktov dissolve it with tricky questions. She doesn't understand what she is saying, but what if she does? It is disgusting to look at such people. We went to the west, and even the people were being pulled with them. Outraged to the core, evil is not enough. Then some mats. I'll go have a smoke, maybe I'll calm down ...
  9. stroporez
    stroporez 18 October 2013 08: 55
    15
    there will be a question to the authorities why there is still such a cesspool as "Echo of Moscow" !! ????????? I mean, sho on them you can "measure" almost the entire Criminal Code ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 October 2013 09: 05
      +6
      Quote: stroporez
      a question will arise for the authorities, why until now there is such a cesspool as "Echo of Moscow" !! ????

      And you ask the authorities if not for an interview, because they are queuing up for the Echo. Especially our military.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 10: 29
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And you ask the authorities if not for an interview, because they are queuing up for the Echo. Especially our military.

        I do not understand the answer, Sash. Explain.
      2. stroporez
        stroporez 18 October 2013 15: 18
        +5
        I mean, according to the events in Biryulyovo, 282 are already sewing several people. promptly, right? and then a frank nest of enemies, and ------ at least sho ........
        1. V. Salama
          V. Salama 18 October 2013 15: 24
          +1
          Quote: stroporez
          ... there is a frank nest of enemies, and ------ at least sho ........
          So these are former comrades in the struggle. Now, however, there are differences of opinion in some ways, but this almost always happens.
  10. Basileus
    Basileus 18 October 2013 08: 55
    15
    I do not see a problem if Russia splits up along the MKAD.
  11. morpogr
    morpogr 18 October 2013 08: 56
    12
    This albats in the ward, along with Ponamaryov and Medvedev, and let him share with the neighbors medicines for dementia, stupidity and idiocy.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 18 October 2013 17: 35
      +1
      with two bears.
    2. 311ove
      311ove 18 October 2013 17: 40
      0
      Not how is it divided? Is she better than them? Equally to everyone !!! And the maximum dose, shock therapy, so to speak .... wassat
  12. kosopooz77
    kosopooz77 18 October 2013 08: 57
    10
    If the president and the government pursued a nationally oriented domestic policy, then these rats would not have squealed so freely
  13. v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 18 October 2013 08: 57
    22
    It has long been occupied with one thought: why do we believe that if a person in some area has achieved something, then he is necessarily a connoisseur, an expert in other fields. And so the director, actor, some kind of Mrs. Albats, etc. serious questions are being asked from economics, politics, or some other areas far from the sphere of their interests. And they begin to carry nonsense with a smart look, and the person who asked the question with the same smart look sits and nods.
    Once, at the triumphant return of Solzhenitsyn, I read his article "How We Can Equip Russia", read it and shrugged: I personally did not find any genius insights there. By and large, we all talked about it in kitchens, in smoking rooms, over a glass of tea, etc. Here is this lady - why ask her on these topics, who is she? I understand: I don’t like to listen, but maybe the gentlemen from the media should somehow approach the topic of the interview more professionally and thoughtfully.
    1. anip
      anip 18 October 2013 09: 16
      12
      Quote: v.lyamkin
      It has long been occupied with one thought: why do we believe that if a person in some area has achieved something, then he is necessarily a connoisseur, an expert in other fields.

      In-in, always thought about it and spoke in disputes. And then in the Duma, there, too, then an athlete, then an artist and all, B.L. are such experts on life.
    2. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 18 October 2013 13: 47
      0
      Quote: v.lyamkin
      It has long been occupied with one thought: why do we believe that if a person in some area has achieved something, then he is necessarily a connoisseur, an expert in other fields. And so the director, actor, some kind of Mrs. Albats, etc. serious questions are being asked from economics, politics, or some other areas far from the sphere of their interests. And they begin to carry nonsense with a smart look, and the person who asked the question with the same smart look sits and nods.


      it's an apple. Just like a doctor, he cannot be both a surgeon, an ENT specialist, an ophthalmologist, a neuropathologist, a proctologist and a psychiatrist. Politics requires specialization and extensive experience.
    3. Tyumen
      Tyumen 18 October 2013 21: 47
      +2
      This is a common feature of all specialists. So Sakharov from the rostrum of the Presidium of the Armed Forces convinced
      Armenians start the war for Karabakh, constantly reminding that he is an academician. Although his profession
      did not give him any knowledge in geopolitics.
  14. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 18 October 2013 08: 59
    12
    What is this nonsense? Who let the aunt out of the psychiatric hospital? Who put them on the radio? Why is there even a voice-over of such “thoughts?” You can kick our government as much as you want, since they deserve it, but to doubt the territorial integrity of the country is already an open betrayal of the Motherland.
    1. dddym
      dddym 18 October 2013 10: 54
      12
      in general, our lands are distributed right and left starting from Khrushchev. Stalin took, Khrushchev began to give, Brezhnev just did not give anything honor to him and eternal memory. And then the reformers started to give so much land that you wonders ... And Shevarnadze and Gaidar and Yeltsin and the Bear and GDP. The territory of Russia is a single and indivisible state space! And all transfers of possessions cannot be made by a single decision. Only a referendum gives such a right. And if Mr. Putin decided to sacrifice the territory for the sake of some political goals there, he is an ordinary koloboritsionist and should either be shot or imprisoned for an impressive period. Why do we meekly give our lands to some uncle? That all these politicians have enough money to cover the economic losses from such gifts? Let them lay out of their pocket and put into the treasury as much money as it really costs, taking into account the losses of at least 500 years
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 18 October 2013 15: 36
      +1
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Who released the aunt from the asylum?
      at the suggestion of the leaders, there is now an eternal "open door" ........... people at least handed out licenses for sanitary shooting .........
  15. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 18 October 2013 09: 01
    +9
    To isolate such people who are suffering from "verbal diarrhea" from society is the very place for them in the area behind the machine.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 18 October 2013 15: 24
      +1
      to no avail -------- such are not capable of creating anything. so sho of such to the machine ------ the machine to the landfill ........
  16. anip
    anip 18 October 2013 09: 04
    11
    Look at her last name and everything will become clear. Those like her today shout about Stalin’s alleged anti-Semitism. So for such statements (and, especially, acts) of Comrade. Stalin punished citizens, including those with similar surnames. And now, touch this woman, so she will scream, call the Nazis, call the law.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 18 October 2013 09: 10
      +9
      yes such fool themselves provoke anti-Semitism
  17. gastrocit
    gastrocit 18 October 2013 09: 05
    +7
    mdyayayayaya librasts damn zadolbali already zadolbali gently said !!!! when specific people come to politics or when these people begin to implement a specific policy !!! ???
  18. bomg.77
    bomg.77 18 October 2013 09: 07
    11
    Sergey Medvedev (journalist, professor at the HSE and, especially "nice", winner of the FSB award):
    It’s not Putin who called it a moron? Something is the Fifth Colon, they are stubbornly setting us against China. So China is not dangerous))) It’s not dangerous yet.
  19. Averias
    Averias 18 October 2013 09: 12
    11
    Explain to the illiterate, and how this is deciphered - (chief editor "Echo"). The following decoding comes to my mind - "the main pest". Correct if wrong yes
  20. 31231
    31231 18 October 2013 09: 15
    +6
    Alex, mentioning this enchanting fool you do her a favor. Although negative, but PR.
  21. pensioner
    pensioner 18 October 2013 09: 16
    +7
    HSE professor
    When will this hornet’s nest be burnt out ?? am
  22. Ddhal
    Ddhal 18 October 2013 09: 16
    +3
    As in the expression from a silly movie:
    "Katz always offered to surrender."
    Do not pay attention to such gophers, which are, but we do not see them. This is just PR.
  23. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 18 October 2013 09: 18
    12
    Sergey Medvedev (journalist, professor at the HSE and, especially "nice", winner of the FSB award):
    The Arctic must be saved, it should be an international reserve, and not the territory of Russia's sovereignty.

    I remember Putin answered briefly about this:
    AT .... ok !!!
    And on the account of this woman everything is clear ... the highest degree!
  24. morpogr
    morpogr 18 October 2013 09: 19
    14
    This echo matzah is no longer shy about wanting a collapse of the country.
    Albats. Studied in the USA. In 1996, she graduated from Harvard University. In 2004, she completed her doctoral studies at Harvard University, where she received a Ph.D. degree in political science, defending a doctoral dissertation on the topic “Bureaucracy and Russian Transformation: the Policy of Adaptation”. She taught at Princeton, Harvard, Yale, the University of Chicago, the University of Pennsylvania, Duke University. [2]
    Since 2008 [2] (according to other sources since 2003) [3] he is a professor at the HSE and teaches at the Department of General Political Science, Faculty of Applied Political Science.
    In 2010, she signed the appeal of the Russian opposition "Putin must leave."
    As of 2012, she is authoring the program “Full Albats” on the radio station “Echo of Moscow”, [4] is the editor-in-chief of The New Times magazine, published in the Daily Journal, [5] was a member of the presidium of the Russian Jewish Public Organization Congress.
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 18 October 2013 10: 36
      +4
      Wow. So what the devil came back. Well, I would live there and create there. Or what: kicked out?
      1. Goodmen
        Goodmen 18 October 2013 12: 15
        +4
        Quote: v.lyamkin
        Or what: kicked out?


        Rather sent ...
      2. Check
        Check 18 October 2013 14: 04
        +1
        The trip is long.
        as grandmother would say, "Stalin is not on them"
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 18 October 2013 17: 10
          0
          Quote: Check
          The trip is long.
          as grandmother would say, "Stalin is not on them"

          Your grandmother is wise. good
    2. lotar
      lotar 18 October 2013 14: 42
      +2
      And besides her, how many officials studied abroad? And how many children of current officials are studying? And how many of them eventually became agents of influence? I am afraid that we will only learn the answers to these and other questions on the verge of another "Scribe".
  25. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 18 October 2013 09: 20
    +4
    from the Don.
    Censored, censored and cut tongues !!!!
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  26. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 18 October 2013 09: 21
    29
    what are we rushing about with these freaks? I don’t understand ... drive to the historical homeland!
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 18 October 2013 10: 20
      15
      Quote: Silkway0026
      ... drive to the historical homeland!

      In the photo is she the nasty muskrat? Oh ... And you are scary, mother, oh scary ... But I wanted to offer her to some maniac, but now I’m sorry for the maniac.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 10: 34
        +6
        Quote: IRBIS
        And I wanted to offer her to some maniac, but now the maniac is sorry.

        good Well said.
    2. Novoyur
      Novoyur 18 October 2013 12: 38
      +3
      And you don't think that this "Echo" is the mouthpiece of those who will sell, betray because this photo is signed. I have long considered this "Echo" a descendant of "Voice of America" ​​and "Svoboda" of those years when they broadcast to the USSR, now democracy has allowed these traitors to openly broadcast their open propaganda. Interestingly, the United States would allow Russia to do so.
    3. Egor.nic
      Egor.nic 18 October 2013 14: 27
      +5
      They do not have a homeland, much less a historical one.
      1. crisis
        crisis 19 October 2013 00: 43
        -2
        and don’t hope to eat
      2. Alex Nick
        Alex Nick 19 October 2013 19: 10
        0
        They had a homeland. There was no state
  27. pensioner
    pensioner 18 October 2013 09: 21
    +7
    Thanks Alexey! But did this lady say for a short time or a decent fine under our law? Still, the territorial integrity of the country is holy ...
  28. ReifA
    ReifA 18 October 2013 09: 29
    +4
    Such statements, without an adequate reaction of society and relevant bodies, will not be brought to good.
  29. Begemot
    Begemot 18 October 2013 09: 32
    11
    For me, Ms. Albats has long been a symbol of rabid Russophobia and Russia's betrayal. Apparently, she only needs her own apartment, a hairdressing salon, a supermarket and several boutiques, let the Chinese take the rest, if they want to, and everyone who lives there is their problem, she’s got a hit on her drum.
  30. alekseyal
    alekseyal 18 October 2013 09: 34
    +8
    Such figures must be sent to prison by law.
    Such a law has already been developed and submitted to the State Duma, it is necessary to adopt it faster.
    To date, it should be recognized that in modern Russia there is still a potential threat of the country's collapse into many quasi-states that on a geopolitical scale will look like dwarfs. The subversive work of Russia's geopolitical neighbors does not stop even for a minute. Tiny, but very dangerous organizations, constantly appearing in the information and public field of our country, under the guise of “thoughts” and “opinions” propagandizing the dismemberment of the Russian Federation.
    In this regard, the development of bills aimed at preserving the integrity of Russia and curbing the spread and, moreover, the implementation of ideas about the fragmentation of the state, seems extremely important and relevant.

    This is precisely the kind of work that air defense and anti-missile defense experts conduct as part of a working group under the State Duma. On June 14, the round table summed up the work of the group over the past period and presented the prepared bills.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 18 October 2013 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: alekseyal
      Such figures must be sent to prison by law.

      Quote: borisjdin1957
      Censored, censored and cut tongues !!!!

      Do you propose making them martyrs of freedom?
      Do not wait!
      The thought does not strangle you will not hurt. A word can only be fought with a word.
      When the majority of the people will despise them, they themselves will shut up.

      ps
      Air defense - we don’t fly ourselves and don’t give others?
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 18 October 2013 10: 33
        +6
        No, they have at least nassa in the eye, all God's dew! They themselves do not shut up, the example of Politkovskaya has not yet reached their stupid heads!
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 10: 41
        +9
        Quote: Boris55
        A word can only be fought with a word.
        When the majority of the people will despise them, they themselves will shut up.

        Yes, and so they all despise, and they all bark and bark. Crazy dogs are treated in one way.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 18 October 2013 11: 46
          -1
          In the USSR, there were jammers and planted and sent - the result is on the face.
          You can not drive the disease into the depths, it will destroy the whole body.

          The ideology of which they are representatives and bearers must be contrasted with their ideology. This is the only way to seize the minds of people - not to stifle, but to clarify and prove ...

          This is ideal, but for now, since the 17th year, the media have been in their hands and they were the only ones who formed "public opinion", carried out an ideology that would meet their interests, but with the advent of the Internet, their exclusivity to information and its interpretation has significantly diminished.
          As confirmation of this - a discussion of this article on this forum.

          Their time passes and it pleases
          .
      3. alekseyal
        alekseyal 18 October 2013 12: 06
        10
        Air Defense - Black wings will not fly over the Motherland.
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 18 October 2013 18: 44
      +1
      Quote: alekseyal
      Such a law has already been developed and submitted to the State Duma, it is necessary to adopt it faster

      Bill Number - Kindly.
  31. forester
    forester 18 October 2013 09: 39
    +6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: mixxlll
    Such must be collected on the Russian island

    Yes, you really think that Russky Island will become a hell for them, there’s a land of gold there. How did you think of sending them there.

    Absolutely agree NORNICKEL here is a great place as a C / C, of ​​course it's not a pity for 37 years
  32. mak210
    mak210 18 October 2013 09: 43
    15
    I understand that calls for violating the territorial integrity of the state are sweet talk. The main thing in the church is not to dance.

    Who of those present watched the films of the "famous" director Sokurov? Solid psychedelic. "For a long time, until the late 1980s, none of his films were released." Eh, the commies took care of our psyche. Now give the Kurils. Yes, no problem, immediately the rest of the microbes will begin to present. We will give it to everyone. It's a garbage that the islands were taken by our grandfathers at the cost of blood. When it was? The main thing is to preserve the territorial integrity of Moscow, and it would be good to evict the Russians from it, they get in the way.

    Yoma-yo, when finally the state will fulfill its functions. The rootless cosmopolitans got it for a long time.
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 18 October 2013 10: 36
      +5
      Well, after all, you need to promote yourself as a "genius", otherwise you have to forget the "director" of the hack! Maybe the Japanese will throw dough on the next movie hell!
  33. crambol
    crambol 18 October 2013 09: 45
    12
    I want to remind this .......... one juicy fact from the life of France. After being liberated from the Nazis without trial, about 50 thousand collaborators were destroyed!
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 18 October 2013 10: 39
      0
      What are you remembering, comrade?
      1. crambol
        crambol 18 October 2013 22: 17
        +1
        And so, by the way. I remembered by chance, read the history of the French resistance. There traitors и provocateurs without words put to the wall.
    2. es.d
      es.d 18 October 2013 12: 03
      0
      Quote: crambol
      one juicy fact from the life of France


      An example is clumsy. Europe lived quite well under the Germans, which is why they sincerely do not understand that we are celebrating EVERY May 9th. I recalled an interview with a Frenchman "... who worked .." in the Resistance. "Normandie-Niemen", "Fighting France" are far from the partisans of Belarus.
      And the "witch hunt" is quite understandable: who is not a collaborationist .. point your finger at anyone. Here and the settling of scores, and attempts to curry favor, etc., etc.
      And we need to remember Lenin's know-how: put these on the ship and send Euroopp, or even further away. Let them enjoy Freedom, see you with the first nigga that comes across bully
      1. explorer
        explorer 18 October 2013 13: 39
        +2
        Can a torpedo follow the steamer ?? laughing laughing
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 18 October 2013 14: 38
          +5
          Quote: explorer
          Can a torpedo follow the steamer ??

          Nonsense ...
          Der ... my not drowning ...
        2. es.d
          es.d 20 October 2013 14: 04
          0
          For me so; or in ".. a barrel with lice .." (They fought for the Motherland), or to break a toilet bowl over their heads (civil execution).
  34. The gentleman
    The gentleman 18 October 2013 09: 47
    +8
    It’s attractive that every mongrel with a booth has a bulldog, tomorrow it will start and another humorist will go out of his way. All because they give an opportunity to open the mouth to those who see nothing further than their nose, they don’t understand, I don’t understand. In general. I have to offer them to give part of their home to homeless people. I will see how they will react. Why they still don’t have control, why they still allow watering and spoiling in the place where they live? Isolation is the best way .. .
    ps I apologize for being rude, but such statements from "such people" are already starting to get nervous.
  35. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 18 October 2013 09: 55
    +9
    Well, what can I say. This madam has an arrow on an oscilloscope ... So there are no questions for her.fool
    BUT!
    There are questions to the authorities. WHEN DOES PLAYING WITH LIBERASTS STOP ?! Does history not teach anything?
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 18 October 2013 10: 12
      +6
      What is there to discuss? Autumn aggravation!
      Beat ... ov, save Russia !!! Not invented today ...
      When a mad dog barks with foam flowing through its mouth, it is necessary to shoot it ... soon the barkers will bark ...
      And to the power, consisting of the same ... well, what kind of questions can there be to power?)))
    2. avg
      avg 18 October 2013 10: 58
      +4
      Well, what can I say. This madam has an arrow on an oscilloscope ... So there are no questions for her

      With an oscilloscope, this is Latynina - a major specialist in all fields.
      But Albats is a philosoph, she does not know such rude words.
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 18 October 2013 11: 26
        +2
        With an oscilloscope, this is Latynina - a major specialist in all fields.
        But Albats is a philosoph, she does not know such rude words.

        Exactly ... but they are on my face wassat
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    4. 225chay
      225chay 21 October 2013 09: 28
      0
      Quote: Peaceful military
      This Madame Oscilloscope Arrow


      Hmm ... I certainly apologize. the oscilloscope has no arrows. there is an electron beam ... But in general, I agree))
  36. Dromac
    Dromac 18 October 2013 10: 06
    +6
    I got the opinion that these traitors were given to us (the people) at the mercy. That is, the authorities distance themselves so as not to look unattractive to the world community. And it turns out that we are the orderlies of the forest, those who are not indifferent to our HOMELAND, our HISTORY and, in the end, our life. These scoundrels must be "treated" and deprived of citizenship (after having worked in this direction with the constitution)
    1. KEKS44
      KEKS44 18 October 2013 10: 19
      +5
      Quote: Dromac
      These scoundrels must be "treated"

      And prescribe in the form of a medication long, or better unlimited tours in the Kolyma or Solovki!
  37. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 18 October 2013 10: 14
    21
    The words of Madame Passage insult my religious feelings, incite ethnic hatred in me, encroach on the integrity of our state and fall within the scope of the Criminal Code.
  38. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 18 October 2013 10: 27
    +5
    I suggest everyone who puts forward such theses to divide the state into three parts — one part to the state, one part to be distributed in the market, and one (Russia is a generous soul) will be left to you. So what? If you want to start sharing, start with yourself - set an example.
  39. komissar
    komissar 18 October 2013 10: 30
    12
    Apparently, this lady was nowhere beyond the Moscow Ring Road and the territory beyond the Urals is something alien for her, where people unknown to her live, and oil, gas and other natural resources are produced in Moscow, so why not give this "Kemsk volost" to another a country that cannot live without it.
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 18 October 2013 10: 40
      +1
      You noticed it well!
  40. andrei332809
    andrei332809 18 October 2013 10: 30
    +6
    not in vain, not in vain, I always considered the echo of matzah to be a humorous radio. where else can you hear such clowns ...
    radio echo matzah and the channel rain-mind, the honor and conscience of our era wassat what is the era ...
  41. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 18 October 2013 10: 34
    +5
    That Venediktov is a creature with signs of a person, that this is Albats. Well, the names of nationality speak for themselves. Therefore, the outright nonsense of these two creatures does not deserve attention, and they themselves do not deserve even contempt - a great honor.
    1. Egor.nic
      Egor.nic 18 October 2013 14: 48
      0
      Exactly! Absolutely correctly noticed. smile
    2. yur
      yur 18 October 2013 23: 37
      0
      You have very well characterized THESE. But still, it seems to me more correct to be that these are creatures with NO signs of a person.
  42. Kiliny
    Kiliny 18 October 2013 10: 35
    +3
    Lord How many of these liberals do we have, especially in the media and the government !? Where is our ideology?
  43. kostik1301
    kostik1301 18 October 2013 10: 38
    +5
    For treason against the wall .................................
  44. Djozz
    Djozz 18 October 2013 10: 40
    +3
    I would like to hear the opinion of the "Honest Jew" - AU!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 October 2013 10: 47
      +4
      Quote: Djozz
      I would like to hear the opinion of the "Honest Jew" - AU!

      He is an "honest Jew", not a suicide. Afraid that the people will come off on it for his compatriot. laughing
  45. serge
    serge 18 October 2013 10: 42
    +7
    According to the defense concept, in case of a threat to the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation, nuclear weapons can be used. Is it possible that Albats, Venediktov and other Medvedevs cannot apply at least some article of the Criminal Code to this nasty thing, because they are calling for the collapse of the territory of Russia even in the very short form in which it now remains.
  46. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 18 October 2013 10: 43
    +5
    I remembered Ulyana Skoybeda's article "about lampshades", I didn't want to, but they make me not forget.
  47. dddym
    dddym 18 October 2013 10: 43
    +1
    Why don't you understand that Russia has been dreamed of dividing from time immemorial? The Anglo-Saxons generally perceive our country as a piece of their territory simply under the control of the bandit formations in the Kremlin. Putin gave Siberia to the Chinese until 2070. Margaret Thatcher has repeatedly stated that Siberia should belong to the English crown. Shackled Rice betrayed: "It is unfair that Siberia belongs to one state, since it should belong to all of humanity." Guys, our country does not have a capitalist future - because it will not be there soon.
    1. dddym
      dddym 18 October 2013 13: 02
      +1
      I somehow had no doubt that the liberals would instruct the cons. However, all that I wrote - the truth I can even confirm with documents. Well, if you really hurt your eyes - your problems.
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 18 October 2013 13: 23
        +2
        Yes, to hell with them, do not worry that they are in impotent rage on the bow-but come! KAZLI!
    2. Rider
      Rider 18 October 2013 13: 46
      +1
      Quote: dddym
      Putin gave Siberia to the Chinese until 2070.


      and papadrobny can 7
      1. dddym
        dddym 18 October 2013 14: 27
        -1
        Sorry dug out only one link. http://www.dal.by/news/1/28-12-11-5/Very well cleaned the Internet on this topic. However, a couple of months ago, one could read pretty well on this topic. The meaning is as follows: The agreements that are signed with China allow China to virtually unlimitedly extract almost any mineral in Siberia and the Far East. For pennies. Contracts are valid until 2070 year.
        1. Rider
          Rider 18 October 2013 15: 11
          +3
          Quote: dddym
          Sorry dug out only one link. http://www.dal.by/news/1/28-12-11-5/


          The Russians must disrupt the deal of the century - the sale by Putin and Medvedev of the Far East and Siberia to China. The only possible allies of the Russians in preventing this Medvedev-Putin "deal of the century" with China are the United States, NATO countries and possibly Japan.,

          it did not alert you?
          in my opinion, another horror story about the "Chinese threat".
          2 years have passed since the "news" appeared, but (possibly) no progress in the Chineseization of the Far East has yet been seen.

          and the fact that the network is being cleaned is not news.
          but I think news of such a scale is hard to hush up.
          the one in the Kuril Islands if someone sneezes, and then immediately the noise in the network, and even more so in the Far East.
    3. Egor.nic
      Egor.nic 18 October 2013 14: 50
      0
      Did you understand what you wrote?
    4. V. Salama
      V. Salama 18 October 2013 15: 08
      +3
      Quote: dddym
      ... that you do not understand that Russia has been dreaming of dividing from time immemorial?
      They understand everything, they just don't want to hear about it and see it. We have one oligarch already proposed to create a Far Eastern republic - it is more convenient to rob the country. And now they are robbing, recently they covered up a Chinese organization - for three years they took out the stolen round timber by train, one might think no one knew. Our corrupt officials were filling out forged documents. Somewhere in general, underground coal mining is organized. Albats is the paid mouthpiece of this riffraff - it forms public opinion about the inevitability of an "objective" process. They all do not care about the country, they want to "earn" more. First of all, it is not Albats that needs to be dealt with, but with those who "call the tune".
  48. Ivan Pomidorov
    Ivan Pomidorov 18 October 2013 10: 48
    +6
    - Collusion with representatives of a foreign state (organizations, structures, private individuals) that has caused harm or jeopardizes the security, territorial integrity and sovereignty of the People's Republic of China (Article 102 of the Criminal Code of the People's Republic of China);

    - Planning, organization and implementation of practical actions aimed at undermining the unity of the country and the split of the state (Article 103 of the Criminal Code of the People's Republic of China);

    - Planning, organization and direct participation in an armed uprising, as well as incitement to commit an armed uprising by civil servants, law enforcement officials and the armed forces (Article 104 of the Criminal Code of the People's Republic of China);

    - Treason and transition to the side of the enemy, as well as inducement to commit treason by military personnel or law enforcement officers (Article 108 of the Criminal Code of the People's Republic of China)

    - Espionage, expressed in participation in the activities of the espionage organization, receipt and implementation of various espionage tasks (Article 110 of the Criminal Code of the People's Republic of China);


    Capital punishment under the Criminal Code
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 18 October 2013 11: 18
      +1
      good spiritual articles, can we give them for free, for experiments? let's start with Benediktov and Novodvorskaya.
    2. mak210
      mak210 18 October 2013 14: 20
      +1
      We are not weak either

      Section 279. Armed Rebellion

      The organization of armed rebellion or active participation in it with the aim of overthrowing or forcibly changing the constitutional system of the Russian Federation or violating the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation -
      shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of from twelve to twenty years with a restriction of liberty for a term of up to two years.

      Article 280. Public calls for extremist activity

      1. Public calls for extremist activity -
      shall be punished by a fine in the amount of up to three hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's salary or other income for a period of up to two years, or by forced labor for a term of up to three years, or by arrest for a term of four to six months, or by imprisonment for a term of up to three years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for the same period.
      2. The same acts committed using the media -
      shall be punishable by forced labor for a term of up to five years, with or without deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions for a period of up to three years, or deprivation of liberty for a term of up to five years, with deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to three years.
  49. Uzoliv
    Uzoliv 18 October 2013 10: 48
    -14 qualifying.
    In order to have a judgment, it is necessary to familiarize yourself with the source. And then the author did a good job of quoting quotes from the context, eat dear comrades. Therefore, what does it look like:
    E. ALBATS: To reckon, because we cannot fight with China - this is already clear. From my point of view, we have lost absolutely to China in all directions, including, by the way, in terms of the level of economic modernization. This is where our aluminum industry now has problems, because in China there are super-technological enterprises that are associated specifically with the aluminum industry and so on. We lose in all directions. Look at whatever industry you take, you will see that we are there to lose to China. Practically without exception.

    A. VENEDIKTOV: And so, may God be with him, and let him take it?

    E. ALBATS: So no, I also think that God bless him, let him take it. I do not see this as any problem. To be honest, I don’t see a particular problem if Russia divides along the Ural Range. I think this is inevitable.

    A. VENEDIKTOV: Explain. I did not understand, I did not understand. What is “divided along the Ural ridge”?

    E. ALBATS: I mean that ... From my point of view, while the development of the economy is taking place today, including the development of the Far East, it seems to me absolutely inevitable that Siberia will somehow become part , well, some kind of economic vassal of China. It seems to me that this is absolutely inevitable. Actually, books have been written on this subject.

    A. VENEDIKTOV: Good. Well, books are god with them. Your opinion interests me. Do you think that this will happen during our lifetime?

    E. ALBATS: No, I think it’s not during our lifetime, but I think that’s what’s going on.

    A. VENEDIKTOV: So is Putin right, who is struggling with this trend, or not? Or trying to fight.

    E. ALBATS: I think that Putin is right in that he is trying to invest in the Far East. The second reason, I think, is why Putin says that he doesn’t need to introduce visas besides the fact that he wants to be a collector of land and restore the empire of the Soviet Union in some form, the second reason is that he is excellent understands that the level of corruption of the executive authorities, including, of course, the security forces (or, perhaps, first of all) is so high that they will buy the entire border, in part, put barbed wire, buy and barbed wire or give it away.

    Albats is not talking about what she wants, but about what she sees, but these are different things. And for a number of facts of dreams it is difficult to argue. China, if not the enemy of Russia today, is certainly a dangerous economic competitor to whom a strong Russia is economically disadvantageous. The Chinese are crushing our industry, whatever we do, the Chinese are doing cheaper. And well, if it were just cheaper, but they do it better.
    If Albats was an enemy, as many write here, she said something completely different. She would reassure, she said there are difficulties, but positive dynamics are evident, and so on in that spirit. And she deliberately provokes, yes very rudely, but these threats exist realistically. She beats the alarm.
    1. Volodin
      18 October 2013 11: 25
      12
      Well, if you lay out almost half of the interviews from a third-party media - this is called "pulling out quotes", then what does this reader say if only one quote from a respondent is published in a magazine or newspaper ... Everyone who found the topic interesting, themselves could listen to the interview in full in the "radio" archive (or read it).
      And more:
      "I, frankly, do not see any particular problem and if Russia is divided along the Ural ridge" - is this what you call "She is ringing the alarm"? Oh well...
    2. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 18 October 2013 11: 37
      +4
      Albats is not talking about what she wants, but about what she sees

      Albats does not say what she sees, but says that
      To be honest, I don’t see a particular problem if Russia divides along the Ural Range. I think this is inevitable.

      Do not confuse soft with warm.
      She beats the alarm.

      Yeah, not to see problems, that is, to say that it’s good is such a new way to sound the alarmfool
    3. Altona
      Altona 18 October 2013 11: 48
      +3
      And then what will Gazprom and Rosneft have in the assets? What will such writers eat? What will Zenith feed in the end? For good fees, you can throw any theses in an interview, this is what "them" call freedom of speech ... I speak freely for money, that is ... But in general, if she (Albats) does not remember, then I will remind you that there is Jewish Autonomous Region ...
    4. Rider
      Rider 18 October 2013 12: 13
      +4
      Quote: Uzoliv
      Albats is not talking about what she wants, but about what she sees, but these are different things.


      all these types of talked about, EVERYTHING came down to only one thing - CHANGE OF MODE.
      WHAT will happen after, and HOW after to solve the accumulated problems, not a word about it.

      as if with the departure of the GDP, someone will turn off the switch on the billboards "corruption" "social tension" "interethnic conflicts" and everything will immediately become good.
      Venediktov objected to her that such problems could be solved with a lot of blood, which Babac, as always, led the conversation into a boltalogy.

      so ALL of her statements are reduced ONLY to a change of redhead.

      "the whole world of violence we will destroy to the ground, and then ...
      to remind you what happened afterwards?
  50. air wolf
    air wolf 18 October 2013 10: 50
    -6
    Why are you all trembling realistically none of us can do anything. All the power is in a handful of people who think only of themselves. Therefore, haw everything as it is! Vote do not vote anyway you get ...! In general, all IPs are under control, soon people in white coats will come to us and will be lucky if they send us to just a fool, where everyone will be lazy to us when they kick us off.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 18 October 2013 11: 05
      +4
      and for a "bunch of nonhodyaev" in power, you will be minus here.
      there are many conformist people (opportunists - for those who do not understand). they are in an article where the majority scolds Mr. P. — scold everyone; where he is praised - praised with everyone. such is the reality, and until it changes here on a military review and throughout the country - there will be no change for the better!
      it all depends on US, the patriots must unite, the Communists, nationalists and just good people, atheists, pagans and Orthodox with Muslims.
      and say ENOUGH, now is not the time of the Brezhnevs, Alexandrov 2 and Nikolaev 2 - now is the time of the Stalin, Petrov 1 and Ivan the Terrible. and if you Guarantor could not become one, although you had time, then transfer power to a more determined person.
      We also did not know anything about you in 1999, then you were out of place, and now it’s time to act quickly - the bill goes by months ...
      1. Egor.nic
        Egor.nic 18 October 2013 15: 04
        0
        You have the place in the Western puppet show.