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Zombies of our time

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Over the past ten years, about thirty thousand people have died from the drug desomorphine (aka the “crocodile”) in Russia. By prevalence, he ranks second after heroin. Crocodile has gained popularity due to the cheapness of codeine-containing components and their relative availability. Only since June 2012, the sale of codeine-containing drugs without a prescription in Russia has been banned. The lifespan of someone who is addicted to desomorphine is about two years old. People rot alive, literally spilling into pieces. They can be called the walking dead.


Zombies of our time


At school, children dream of a happy and long life. They want to become pilots, heroes, doctors, writers, famous artists, artists, ship captains, or learn seven foreign languages. There are no children among those who dream of a “career” of an alcoholic, vagabond or drug addict.

But childhood is over. It is time for youth, youth. Life somehow did not work out. This is due either to poverty, or a bad quarter with a bad company, or bad educators and teachers, or genes, or both. As a result, someone goes to jail, and someone to the needle.

More than two years ago, the head of the Federal Drug Control Service, Viktor Ivanov, said that almost two thirds of pharmacy codeine drugs are bought by drug users. The growth in sales of these drugs is absolutely correlated with the growth in the number of annually eliminated drug addicts engaged in the processing of these drugs into desomorphine, quoted Ivanova RBC. In some regions, up to 90% of newly discovered drug addicts are desomorphins.

Reports from the newspapers of our time can drive you crazy.

In the center of Lipetsk police closed the drug addiction in which the potion was prepared. Several syringes were filled and ready to use. Guards found a bottle with the remnants of codeine, iodine. There was a stench in the apartment.

Rђ RІRѕS, message from Azov. The anti-drug commission summed up the 8 work months. Only during these months was 26 drug addicts closed.

From Tolyatti writethat against Ekaterina Shvyrevoy initiated a case under article 232 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (organization and maintenance of a den for the consumption of narcotic drugs). Desomorphine was found in her apartment.

News from Cheboksary: ​​a young resident of the southwestern region was accused of illegally manufacturing and storing desomorphine without a sales target.

In the regional office of Federal Drug Control Service of Russia in the Arkhangelsk region summed up activity results for the nine months of 2013 of the year: the 24 of the drug addiction was revealed. According to Sergey Yurkovsky, Acting Head of the Regional Directorate of Federal Drug Control Service of Russia in the Arkhangelsk Region, since the beginning of the year, 430 crimes related to drug trafficking have been registered in the region. In seven hangouts from 24, desomorphine was manufactured and consumed. Over the same period last year, the drug police eliminated 21 desomorphine hangout.

And so on and so forth.

In 2013, the crocodile is successfully mastered by the United States.

Becky Evans and Anna Edwards ("Daily Mail") write that, despite reports of the spread of the "carnivorous crocodile" throughout the United States, the anti-drug agency refuses to view it as a serious threat to America. Meanwhile, the appearance of the drug in the United States had been feared since 2011, when an official from the Drug Enforcement Administration announced that his department was aware of the overseas crocodile. And nevertheless, even knowing about the cases of medical intervention, which have been publicly announced by the doctors, the DEA now declares that it is not ready to recognize these cases as a direct threat.

Journalists describe the "side effects" of desomorphine as gangrene, decay, and finally, the exposure of the bones. It all starts with the peeling of the skin - hence the name of the homemade drug.

Today, doctors fear the epidemic spread of this cheap heroin replacement in the United States.

The first use of the drug was recorded in the United States in Arizona in September. Later it became known about three cases in Chicago.

Doctors warn about horrific side effects: damage to blood vessels, muscles, cartilage, bones. In the end - amputation. Often this is the only way to save a patient’s life. Rotting flesh occurs directly at the injection site.

The article also indicates that 2,5 of a million people registered in Russia, who applied for medical assistance due to the use of this drug, are registered in Russia. In the 2011 alone, the Federal Drug Control Service of Russia confiscated 65 million doses. Desomorphine is three times cheaper in production than heroin, say journalists. The drug is especially prevalent in Siberia and the Far East of Russia; dependent growth is marked with the year 2002. The number of desomorphins-Russians, experts believe, has tripled in the past five years.

In a report by Will Payne ("Daily Mail") from the city of Dzholet, Illinois, tells about the sisters Amber and Angie Neitzel, who used the “toxic cocktail” from Russia for a year and a half.

The sisters claim that at first they had no idea that they were using a “crocodile”. They thought it was an ordinary heroin. At the same time, the sisters said that they preferred the new drug because it cost a tenth of the heroin price. In addition, the drug gave an incredibly high thrill.

After weeks after the transition to the "crocodile" sisters appeared disgusting ulcers on the legs and arms. A few months later, 29-year-old Angie felt so bad that she was taken to intensive care unit at night with terrible stomach pain: she was convinced that she was dying.

Both sisters were treated by Dr. Abhin Singla. This man decided to speak about the problem of "crocodile" after a few weeks saw five cases in his small city hospital. Both sisters signed special medical forms, thereby allowing the doctor to tell the general public about their cases. The doctor said the following about the drug:

“The effect is worse than any that I have ever seen from any drug in all the years of my practice. He makes addicted and deals damage instantly. "


The doctor expects to see a lot more addicts in the coming months. He believes that the drug will be distributed in the United States.

“I really don’t know how to stop it, the law enforcement agencies should start it. There were already a number of cases throughout the country, and now something has to be done. ”


On Friday last week, DEA spokesman Jack Riley finally issued a statement about the department’s concern about the crocodile. He said that agents and policemen are trying to find dealers on the streets and to find "some clues".

The sisters told about their sad fate precisely so that the “crocodile” epidemic was stopped. And their doctor believes that every child should see the warning of Amber and Angie.

As for Russia, the Federal Drug Control Service believes that the restrictions imposed on the sale of codeine drugs have improved the country.

As in January, 2013 reported “Russian service“ BBC ”, V. Ivanov, Director of the Federal Drug Control Service, speaking about the results of the fight against desomorphine, said that the ban on over-the-counter sales of drugs containing codeine led to a "phenomenal recovery" of Russian society. Ivanov said:

“According to the results of our work for six months, the market for desomorphine decreased by 10 times. The number of drug accidents has been halved. ”


The BBC also notes that Russian human rights activists have repeatedly called the introduction of recipes an imitation of the fight against drug addiction. This imitation supposedly harms patients who need codeine.

As for the “phenomenal recovery,” we note in conclusion, oh, how far it is to Russian society. This is eloquently indicated by the number of drug users who continue to be closed by law enforcement officers (see the beginning of the article).

People! Remember your school dream. Do not change it to desomorphine. Who do you want to be - a man or a zombie?
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  1. domokl
    domokl 21 October 2013 07: 50
    48
    I just walked the dog. On the next house there is a new inscription with paint-Salt, skype is that ... And there are a lot of such inscriptions. Besides FSKN everyone else knows what it is.
    And recently, a large heroin drug dealer was detained. He worked as the head of the FSKN department in the region ... And this is all against the backdrop of huge deadlines for dealers.
    Urgently need to introduce responsibility for the use. The boys and girls die. To smoke marijuana is no longer considered the use of drugs .. So, have fun ...
    1. air wolf
      air wolf 21 October 2013 08: 38
      12
      I am responsible for the use of drugs, caught, the first time a large fine, then the term and there will be order!
      1. Alex toll
        Alex toll 21 October 2013 13: 16
        0
        Addiction is a disease - what you will get there with fines or arrests, and compulsory treatment and a psychologist will be more useful. Che so one-sided !!!!!!!!!!!!! And alcoholism is the same garbage - nothing to pay for treatment - forced labor for the payment of debt and then control once every two weeks three months then once a month.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 14: 05
          +5
          it will give effect if the addict wants to recover ...

          most do not want and as soon as they leave the hospital they will return to their dens ...
          1. Alex toll
            Alex toll 21 October 2013 17: 16
            +2
            "it will have an effect if the addict wants to be cured ..."

            Here is the answer !!!!!! believe me there is someone who wants !!!! They need help, and the society below, who wrote the commentary, also called me a bad word - this is exactly what our cops are doing. and why did you lower the constructive signatory proposed - to put a young or young in the zone - to heat the bunks? and lose forever another 100000, or even more young animals that can push you old-timers - who have passed fire and water and will be able to teach others and give an example (For one beaten - they give two unbeaten)! or hardened convicts and even worse addicts after jail ?! And by the way - this is not due to parents and not upbringing - the question here is the impossibility of realizing oneself in society and not understanding one's place in life - how to say apathy - depression + propaganda in the media.

            Example: my friend injected, smoked, drank, etc. for a long time - then he found strength in himself, came to church, unsubscribed from those companies where there was an opportunity, ........... Now he doesn’t tolerate 1-2-3 in any form - he’s got a promotion, works I went here to Moscow time. by the way, he works as an operator at the factory and controls machine tools worth more than 100 million rubles (divide and count, compare with your responsibility. how much responsibility does that former drug addict take) - earns, thinks about children, and thinks you are one-sided Mikhail3 - stupidly this would be thrown into jail for 8 years and why would you achieve this ?????????? And now he gives money for your RFP !!!!, will create a family, etc. - As I understand it from the authorities? Duck, he feeds you with his official work, etc. and + he will know how to control this in his children, and even more so in time to notice and take action, and most importantly, what to do ...........

            Yes, I can give an example 1 - but if this guy gives let's say 100 taxes per year, multiply by 000 years = 50 rubles, and now multiply by 5 people it turns out that in their life they can bring 000 rubles, and this one generation ............. Clear to you !!! But in fact, this figure is much larger .......

            You can also transplant like this in 10 years how many people? Now calculate how much our country will lose money ..........

            And by the way, Che looks like I am a drug addict - I'm just a person who sees reality, and does not sit on the background of the coat of arms behind his back and spitting on everyone to shoot everyone to shoot.
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 17: 44
              +5
              here the question of the impossibility of realizing oneself in society and not understanding their place in life - how to say apathy - depression + propaganda in the media.


              this is not necessary ...

              almost all people have problems in their teens with the realization and understanding of their place in life ...
              apathy and depression are also eternal companions of adolescents ...
              however, not all of them become drug addicts, therefore, the problem is not propaganda and teenage psychoses, the problem is in the addicts themselves ...
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 21 October 2013 14: 07
          +9
          Addiction is by no means a disease. In general, it would be great if dealers behaved more modestly and did not publish their standard excuses here.
          To be honest, addiction ... is useful to society. The East has been living with completely legally distributed drugs for thousands of years, but does not show a tendency to extinction. How? Nothing complicated. If a person submits to the offer of a free dose, he is stupid. So there is a natural evolutionary leaching of fools. A tragedy for family and friends, a great help for society.
          Also, about family and friends. Yes, it strikes young, gullible, inexperienced ... Children need to be educated. Do not hysteria about a damned state that did not provide again. This is not the state did not ensure that your son, brother, husband got into a mess, your daughter got hooked on some kind of sweet death. It's your fault. Yes, yes, and everything else will be a lie.
          A man does this with himself, with his mind and will, as he has. The only way to restrain it is to punish it mercilessly. Over the years of prison ...
          1. jagdpanzer
            jagdpanzer 21 October 2013 16: 54
            -2
            mistaken disease and recognized by WHO!
            1. andrey-ivanov
              andrey-ivanov 22 October 2013 10: 30
              +2
              Yeah, and homosexuality is also recognized as a normal phenomenon, not a deviation. And now it is intensively cultivated along with "democracy"
        3. Uncle
          Uncle 21 October 2013 14: 13
          0
          Quote: Alex Toll
          and compulsory treatment and psychologist - more sense to get

          The question immediately arises, where to get GOOD psychologists? To understand a lot, and not hatch a working day.
      2. Klim
        Klim 21 October 2013 15: 34
        +5
        alcohol is the most drug tested on itself
      3. wk-083
        wk-083 22 October 2013 00: 38
        0
        Lifetime for trading, manufacturing, and shipping! Or the experience of China.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 October 2013 08: 47
      13
      Quote: domokl
      T. To smoke marijuana is no longer considered the use of drugs .. So, have fun ...

      I talked with older people, so in 70 the grass grew on the outskirts of the city and was not needed by anyone in the fig. The people respected alcohol more than grass. They started to smoke it massively after it was banned.
      1. kavkaz8888
        kavkaz8888 21 October 2013 09: 03
        18
        101% correct. My elders one to one rasskazyvali. From Makhachkala to Krasnodar the same picture. Stable "sat" on the plan Asians. I remember one phrase - "there was no time to get high, everyone was busy with business."
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 21 October 2013 11: 45
          +3
          So then the article was for parasitism, and right now, whoever wants what he does, is the policy of the authorities.
      2. apostrophe
        apostrophe 21 October 2013 09: 10
        13
        I don’t know what kind of elders, but in the 70s, a lot of people (to put it mildly) did not even realize that it could be smoked. The same poppy grew en masse in the gardens of villagers.
        1. domokl
          domokl 21 October 2013 09: 46
          +3
          Quote: Apostrophe
          but in 70x a lot of people (to put it mildly) did not even realize that it could be smoked.

          laughing Let me remind you of the fate of Vysotsky ... And many of the same ... They knew and used. Even under pain of criminal liability. Marafet, a taoka the name for drugs was still in Tsarist Russia.
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 21 October 2013 13: 51
            +3
            Let me remind you of the fate of Vysotsky ... And many of the same ... They knew and used. Even under pain of criminal liability. Marafet, a taoka the name for drugs was still in Tsarist Russia.

            Did they call cocaine a marathon?
            Yes, and Vysotsky - did he sit on the heroine? I thought in morphine
            1. jagdpanzer
              jagdpanzer 21 October 2013 16: 54
              -1
              marafet is morphine)
        2. yurii p
          yurii p 21 October 2013 10: 30
          +3
          you guessed it, you just didn’t need it, there was high-quality alcohol in every yard, and the shops weren’t selling the current de..mo, there were no alcoholics and drug addicts, you have to thank the hunchback for his anti-alcohol company, all the vineyards were cut down and destroyed gardens, people began to lack quality alcohol at the lowest price, so they switched to surrogates, including grass and opium, the results are obvious.
        3. Far East
          Far East 21 October 2013 13: 41
          0
          Quote: Apostrophe
          I don’t know what kind of elders, but in the 70s, a lot of people (to put it mildly) did not even realize that it could be smoked. The same poppy grew en masse in the gardens of villagers.

          the elders told you that they smoked (yat) laughing Everything was! hi
        4. cdrt
          cdrt 21 October 2013 13: 50
          +3
          I don’t know what kind of elders, but in the 70s, a lot of people (to put it mildly) did not even realize that it could be smoked. The same poppy grew en masse in the gardens of villagers.

          100500
          Grandmother in Ukraine raised poppies in the garden. And no one even thought about anything other than culinary use.
        5. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 14: 07
          0
          he is still growing ...

          food poppy can’t be used for heroin ...
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 21 October 2013 14: 12
            +1
            yes you what smile it’s the same SMAK. why for heroin, it’s fresh so to speak. not for nothing that grandmothers scream in the morning about trampled beds. There is a so-called decorative one, there’s no sense in it.
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 14: 57
              0
              well, decorative grows in the beds ...
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 21 October 2013 15: 37
                +1
                not exactly. what grandmothers sow is certainly not the same as in Afghanistan, but the real poppy that drug addicts mow. by the way, it’s a perennial one. usually with light pink petals. not very tall (they may not grow).
                but there is also one that we call decorative (although in fact probably they are all kind of) it seems to be the same, but the variety is actually different. It’s not opium
                for example, this one will go for nariks

                but there’s no sense
          2. zub46
            zub46 21 October 2013 15: 30
            +1
            Can. It is slightly weaker than opium poppy. Even a decoction of poppy straws of household poppy comes into play, and how.
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 21 October 2013 15: 44
              +1
              spell things wink broth kuknar
              1. alone
                alone 21 October 2013 19: 52
                0
                wassat some forum users understand well. experience is felt))
                1. Marek Rozny
                  Marek Rozny 21 October 2013 22: 27
                  0
                  Well, Duc Gleb - ours, Kazakhstani)))
      3. domokl
        domokl 21 October 2013 09: 43
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        , so in 70 the grass grew on the outskirts of the city and was not needed in FIG

        Then there was no such fashion .. Glamor was perceived as .And now on all channels they show that it's cool. That's the answer ...
      4. pahom54
        pahom54 21 October 2013 09: 52
        15
        I completely agree. In the 60s, I (we guys) already started smoking tobacco. At the same time, there was a twine factory on the outskirts of the city, and cannabis thickets around it. Well, to be honest, they tried it a bit or two, and that’s it. Until now, of those with whom I grew up at that time, not a single drug addict was and never was.
        And then, when both the factory and the fields were destroyed - and it went ...
        Here I am citing from the article: "The BBC material also notes that Russian human rights activists have repeatedly called the introduction of recipes an imitation of the fight against drug addiction" ...
        Well, everyone knows that our rulers, since the Gorbachev era, have been imitating the fight against alcoholism and drug addiction. However, it is alarming that some “human rights activists” are talking about “imitation of the struggle” ... As soon as I hear the word “human rights activist,” it immediately associates with the nit paid for by the West, using any pretext to bite the existing government .. ...
        The fight against drugs should be fierce, like, in some countries, to the distributors, death. Moreover, the official death, from a court decision. It is high time to lift the moratorium on the death penalty, and not just because of drugs.
        The reason for the spread of drugs is not only the state’s impotence, but also the civil society’s impotence, which we often and thoughtlessly talk about. If each of us sees what is happening under his nose and fights against it, then the path is possible, not victory, but at least the braking of this invasion. But society will be able to deal with the influx of drugs only with a strong state and its government.
        The article says that people get addicted to drugs because of the hopelessness of life ... I don’t quite agree with this, because the golden youth are taking them just not because of a bad life ... And I'm not quite sure that the young man is from a poor family right away, he strives to take drugs ... He who has a vital core - he will not fall under the influence of drug addicts, for example - I and my friends, comrades in childhood and school. There are no drug addicts among us!
        The fight against alcoholism, drug addiction, smoking is carried out in our country by some castrated-wretched methods, and in some ways reminiscent of Gorbachev’s attempts ... We need to develop mass physical education and sports, tourism, to make drinking, smoking, injecting just well, unfashionable or something, it’s not prestigious ... These are educational measures for those who have not yet settled on this infection. Well, for distributors - only death, because otherwise you can’t stop this infection - it brings too big grandmas.
        1. yurii p
          yurii p 21 October 2013 10: 38
          +7
          "As soon as I hear the word" human rights activist ", it immediately associates with the nit paid for by the West, using any reason to bite the existing government ..." ........... they do not bite the government, the authorities before them are violet, they are busy with their own affairs, such as sawed off the budget, they, the so-called "right or left-wing activists", are trying to destroy us, destroy the state.
        2. abdrah
          abdrah 21 October 2013 15: 20
          +4
          About the moratorium on the death penalty, a moratorium is a sabotage that undermines the Russian economy, imposed on Russia by enemies from the outside. During the war, it’s better not to kill the enemies and injure them, so that they rot in the rear and the country works for the front and still tears to treat the wounded. Russia was wounded by a moratorium, Yes, unfortunately they are not alone.
          The moratorium will be lifted only when Russia becomes independent.
      5. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 21 October 2013 16: 10
        +2
        I remember the people didn’t like the drug addict, they even treated them with disgust, the fracture began somewhere in the period of the hunchback struggle with alcohol
      6. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 21 October 2013 20: 38
        0
        Until the 20 century, only fabric, paper and rope could be used as packaging material. Fabric and paper are very expensive. But the rope ... hemp did not grow on the sidelines. Colossal areas were occupied by it. And nothing.
        They knew that this stuff could be smoked. Russia traded with the whole world, bordered on Asia ... and after all, whoever does not smoke there, chew, or at least rub it on the gums. It's just that the Russians were not inclined to "keifu". That's right, in the Eastern sense of the word, which is much broader (and smarter, by the way) of the modern scanty term. The Russian people looked at all these smokers, sniffers, with contempt and nothing more.
        At the beginning of the 20th century, a population census was carried out in Russia. And also different questions were asked anonymously, for scientists. In particular, "do you drink alcohol", "do you smoke". More than 60% answered “no” to both questions. Cool, right? But even half as cool as knowing that the answer was “no” was only possible when he had never drunk a drop of alcohol in his life except for communion and had never even inhaled tobacco smoke from his own smoke. These are our ancestors.
      7. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 21 October 2013 22: 26
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I talked with older people, so in 70 the grass grew on the outskirts of the city and was not needed in FIG.

        Hemp, which is growing in Russia, is not drug-containing. In the CIS, only Chuya hemp growing in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan has a narcotic effect. It recently became such - in the 30s, Soviet geneticists decided to cross Chuy hemp (which was produced and processed industrially - made ropes, bags and all kinds of different things) with a different hemp variety to improve the quality. The qualities did not improve, but a side effect was revealed - an increased content of drugs in the plant. But then the war began and they scored for this unsuccessful experiment. There was no time for hemp affairs. Over the years, the Chuy hybrid has grown and replaced the original hemp. In the 60s, someone spent about her narcotic properties and off and on. For the sake of Chuyka from all over the USSR, people were traveling.
        Chuy Valley is a gigantic territory. Cannabis can not be destroyed. What just did not. And now biologists say that the problem will soon be resolved by itself. Chuisky cannabis degenerates. Each hybrid has its own cycle. The number of areas where drug cannabis grows is reduced every year, and other plants and normal hemp grow in its place, in which there is no drug content.
        In the 90s, many people smoked Chuik. Now weed is smoked relatively little. Yes, and thumping at times less than then.
        For me, weed is not such a terrible thing as vodka. From vodka, a person generally takes down a tower. And grass - although it makes a person inadequate, it is usually harmless inadequate.
        But "wide" is a complete p_ts. The Chinese are doing the right thing to shoot drug dealers.
    3. kavkaz8888
      kavkaz8888 21 October 2013 08: 58
      -18 qualifying.
      Grass is not a drug
      1. domokl
        domokl 21 October 2013 09: 52
        +6
        Quote: kavkaz8888
        Grass is not a drug

        exactly so .. And poppy is also almost grass ... laughing You are a great example of a modern attitude to drugs. And then what about your drug?
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 21 October 2013 11: 02
          +5
          and it depends on what to put into the term "drug." tobacco will give odds to hemp! no?
          Well, quote:
          Drug (from the Greek. Ναρκωτικός - numbing, Greek. Narcosis - stupor) - according to the definition of WHO - a chemical agent that causes stupor, coma or insensitivity to pain. [1] The term usually refers to opiates or opioids, which are called narcotic analgesics.
          In the XX century, the meaning of the term expanded [8]. The difference between the value and the original [9] is associated with the assignment to drugs of substances not previously designated by this word (such as hemp products, psilocybin mushrooms, etc.) [10].
          Often in medicine and jurisprudence, the term “drug” is used not quite accurately, in an expanded sense, denoting to them all illegal psychoactive drugs, regardless of their pharmacology
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 21 October 2013 13: 54
          +4
          domokl
          And then what do you think is the drug?

          Timidly so.
          Nicotine, 40% solution of ethyl alcohol in water mixed with fusel oils
          1. Igor39
            Igor39 21 October 2013 16: 07
            +3
            Nicotine, unlike vodka and hemp, is not a drug, but a protoplasmic poison, which causes tremendous harm to the body at the genetic level, primarily the brain and the reproductive system. Alcohol is classified as an average drug, with regular use it causes the body's tolerance and its degradation, also at the genetic level. Canabis Indica, has an alkaloid (alkali-like from Arabic) tetrahydrocanabinol, which belongs to soft drugs of hallucinogenic properties. There are no cases of death from an overdose of tetrahydrocabinol in medicine. Tobacco and alcohol, legalized for sale by the state, cause catastrophic harm to the nation. Solomon's parables are written like this (I am not quoting): "The color and incense rejoice the soul, like the good words of your friend."
        3. Alex toll
          Alex toll 21 October 2013 13: 55
          +4
          Here's an example for you! Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers - twisted hemp ropes, pressed oil, and then cooked on it (our body is adapted to it and is adapted - the main measure, and then I never saw that in a state of "nakura" someone killed his wife or something else. anything), but let's say its medicinal properties are phenomenal - it is a very strong anesthetic, and in ancient times milk was used in operations - now it is prescribed in developed countries for cancer patients - ancient people were also afraid of fire, and only when they learned to control and use it was good, but And I ask you to notice now there are also terrible fires and still do not refuse fire.
          And water should be banned - there is so much harm from it and there are more people killed and lost for society every year, and this I consider age-related! They tried everything, but they grew up and this is no longer necessary - there are other values ​​in life - family, relatives, children - that’s what we should strive for and lay back from school, and that he smoked it once once is ridiculous.

          Drunkenness fight - I'm for !!! and most importantly everyone met with drunken gopniks, a drunk driver knocked down a child, cirrhosis of the liver, poisoned with booze - death, someone without a father or his mother during his lifetime - chose a bottle, not children, etc. - wipe your balls people !!! and here is the addiction, etc.

          and the last say grass is the drug of the jump ie to more rubbish rubbish, it seems to me that it’s just booze - because when you don’t take the booze anymore - then you’re looking for something else to cheer yourself up.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 21 October 2013 14: 05
            +4
            comparing the effects of hemp and bluing on a person, I agree. The jamb done is not good of course, but there are moments that will not occur to a smoky person, unlike bukh.
            and yes! back-blue-scary thing really
          2. matross
            matross 21 October 2013 20: 29
            0
            Quote: Alex Toll
            Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers - twisted hemp ropes, crushed oil, and then cooked on it (our body is adapted to it and is anything), but let's say its medicinal properties are phenomenal

            Dear, you weren’t mistaken by the forum? Here no one will buy anything from you. stop
            Quote: Alex Toll
            Now it is prescribed in developed countries by a cancer patient

            In the "developed" countries, it will not be soon prescribed. There, and 3,14, it is allowed to marry and adopt children. And soon they will be allowed to marry children. There your crap and push.
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        5. wei
          wei 21 October 2013 14: 11
          +2
          vodka is also grass

          beer is also grass

          only mushrooms stand apart
        6. kavkaz8888
          kavkaz8888 21 October 2013 17: 09
          +3
          The drug, dear domokl, is the above-described crocodile, indeed a rare abomination, however, like the rest of the shirka. These are salts, spice and other newfangled crap. The "moment" glue is not a drug, but what should you call it, when you look at a guy with a bag on his head, it's not the first hour of cold? Chet carried me. I'm talking, this is a painful topic for me.
          Blue bullish high. He is drunk on exploits (on an asshole of adventure) .Creating a variety of problems for himself and others. With all the consequences ...
          Shirka-angry buzz. You can’t argue with brittleness. With all the consequences ... (+ 100%)
          Chemistry (spays, etc.) is an insidious buzz. Inside eats quietly. (crocodile outside)
          And to the smoked one - to whine, devour, dull. Only stupid youngsters are buzzing under the plan. They smoked it, but it does not quit like a spice and let's be weird.
          In short, it all depends on the character.
          I almost forgot about official drugs, tobacco and alcohol
          1. anton 42
            anton 42 21 October 2013 17: 37
            -1
            I would also add something, the one who smokes the plan, not when he doesn’t take anything out of the house to smoke, will not rage, steal from it and rob, addictive zero. Yes and one more thing, those who smoke the plan cannot get chemistry, the price is one and the availability is different. I hate drug addicts myself, but I don’t think the plan is a drug, because from beer and cigarettes much more harm.
            1. Igor39
              Igor39 21 October 2013 20: 12
              0
              Joke: Two dudes persuade a girl to smell heroin, she says, what are you, getting used to him, they are so addictive, they smell for three years, no getting used to! laughing
        7. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 22 October 2013 22: 26
          0
          Well yes. Haloperidol is not a drug at all. And even a drug (and also God's fear ... well, by the way). But it does exactly the same thing as grass - breaks the connection between thought and action. But haloperidol has no time for foreplay, so it immediately demonstrates the final effect - a quiet vegetable.
          Of course, weed should be promoted in every way! From her, the voter will be quiet, cheerful and very, very obedient. Well, how can one not be happy here?
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 October 2013 13: 29
        +3
        Quote: kavkaz8888
        Grass is not a drug

        You will prove it in court laughing
        1. kavkaz8888
          kavkaz8888 21 October 2013 17: 21
          0
          Himself so.
          Here is the commentary next to "Alyokha (1) Today, 09:51" read do not be lazy, the person expresses everything correctly.
      3. Klim
        Klim 21 October 2013 15: 40
        +1
        completely saglasen
    4. Alyoha
      Alyoha 21 October 2013 09: 51
      +5
      That's right, they'll be chipped with their hasn and the old women will be "bombed")). Or beat off the kidneys for those who inject with grass.))) Better to get drunk on racial-correct vodka ?! From the grass, people rot and the skin falls off in pieces. It is better to roll vodka, and tighten the tobacco, otherwise boys and girls die from the grass. It is better to drink racially correct vodka. (I myself do not use any blues or drugs with cigarettes, but the boys and girls who use weed are healthier than racially correct drunks) And as for spice and salt, this is already tin, even in the 90s people did not sit down so massively on drugs, in schools, in courtyards, salt ads everywhere. Spice, of course, is a strong and dangerous drug, but salt, in general, is tin, is very addictive two or three times (stronger than which is only "crocodile" addiction). When salt appeared, heroin addicts thought it was a panacea (because it is easy to "jump" from gerych to salt), but it was not there, it was easy to jump, but it was impossible to get back. Therefore, salts (namely, MDPV) displace heroin from which it seems that positive dynamics are beginning and we are defeating heroin addiction in Russia, but in fact, heroin is simply not in demand, instead of sticking out carcasses, salts kill. In general, in this regard, the policy of the state is not clear to me, they did it so that when applying for a job (no matter which one), you need to take drug tests and if they find "weed" they will write down that the person is a drug addict and will be registered for 2 years, instead everything is simple en masse they began to smoke spice, they said that schoolchildren would be tested for drugs, they also "switched" to spice, because spice and salts are not detected by standard tests. Ie they wanted the best, but it turned out that again the population was genocide. It is simply not profitable for the state that people live for 80-90 years, it is necessary to pay a pension, and if they smoke racially correct vodka with racially correct cigarettes, then if they do not kill each other in a drunken stabbing, then at 50-55 years they will be bent from "heart" or "stroke". Vodka, by the way, is so harmful and crippling to the body that it seems to me that only a sadist, homosexual, or just RIGHT-RIGHT can consume alcohol-containing liquids, I assure you to walk up to the vodka like a moon on foot for harm to the head and body (but the weed is also not needed, just smoke for at least a year and the harm to the carcass will be less than once "good" to drink). In general, FSKNSchiki are standardly stupid, or the grandmothers from this have that they do not do anything with "spice" and "salts", ascribe to themselves the victories over desomorphine and heroin, and although the situation is even worse, they just "switched" to salt, and the dezomorphinists died.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 21 October 2013 13: 52
        0
        if that, then minus my sight went astray, left left. I repent smile
        ok, at least not in the head aiming
      2. Uncle
        Uncle 21 October 2013 14: 24
        +2
        Quote: Alyoha
        From the grass, people rot and the skin falls off in pieces.

        Does the grass fall off the skin? How many people I know who "stick out", no one fell off. Stupid, that's for sure, but everything is under the skin. But "jars" with carbonated alcohol and additives are really evil.
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 21 October 2013 10: 36
      +4
      Quote from the article: "The BBC article also notes that Russian human rights activists have repeatedly called the introduction of recipes an imitation of the fight against drug addiction. This imitation allegedly harms patients who need codeine."
      Patients who need codeine have a prescription for it.
      What other people in need do these defenders mean ??! These are not defenders, but public helminths. That's who you need to forcefully crochet a crocodile !!
      1. cumastra1
        cumastra1 21 October 2013 16: 59
        +2
        Codeine-containing drugs are very effective, but you can do without them, but why did you remove the drugs with ephedrine? This is nonsense! For little ones, they didn’t come up with anything better than solutan and broncholitin. And do not believe that salbutamol or something else is better! And equating drugs with phenobarbital and others like them is, in my opinion, a crime in general. Not even stupidity or gagging. There is nothing to remove from Epi in the clinic (there are no solutions of Relanium). Modern drugs such as depakine are not available to everyone, so patients with epilepsy are likely to die out soon.
      2. cumastra1
        cumastra1 21 October 2013 16: 59
        0
        Codeine-containing drugs are very effective, but you can do without them, but why did you remove the drugs with ephedrine? This is nonsense! For little ones, they didn’t come up with anything better than solutan and broncholitin. And do not believe that salbutamol or something else is better! And equating drugs with phenobarbital and others like them is, in my opinion, a crime in general. Not even stupidity or gagging. There is nothing to remove from Epi in the clinic (there are no solutions of Relanium). Modern drugs such as depakine are not available to everyone, so patients with epilepsy are likely to die out soon.
        1. official
          official 22 October 2013 00: 40
          0
          I answer. Because ALL ephedrine-containing drugs are actively used by home-grown chemists to isolate ephedrine, and it is the main precursor in the production of amphetamine-type stimulants. In Ukraine, the drugs "Ephedrine Arsan" (Turkey) and "Armedica" (Romania) were previously used, but after the countries joined the EU, the production of these drugs stopped. But Indian brothers appeared with cough medicines - "Terofun", "Trifed", "Rinolex", "Efina", etc. All contain pseudoephedrine. Within 6 hours, methamphetamine is obtained from these tablets (with the use of some more ingredients).
          1. cumastra1
            cumastra1 22 October 2013 13: 17
            0
            Most deaths in the world from kitchen knives and smoking, kitchen knives and tobacco should be banned.
    6. APASUS
      APASUS 21 October 2013 21: 13
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Urgent need to introduce liability for use

      It is necessary as in China. Either a prison or a hospital.
      And the distribution has long been time not to give less than 15 years!
    7. Nickanor
      Nickanor 22 October 2013 21: 27
      0
      Timing will not stop. People absolutely consciously revel in the same desomorphine and, even worse than coaxil, a drug that causes almost instant blockage of blood vessels with all the consequences. They are well aware of the consequences and consciously go for it. This is a natural selection. And what about the term - sat-smoked, went out-started again.
      It is necessary to introduce execution for distribution, as in China - they took for sale - to the wall!
  2. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 21 October 2013 07: 55
    28
    My sister rented an apartment on the third floor, and on the first floor they "cooked" and sold a crocodile. Within a year and a half. Where are the cops? An acquaintance of mine conducted a selective survey of the streetman on the topic, used - did not use, how you feel about them and whether it is easy to find heroin, cocaine, etc. in your city. So, ordinary housewives with strollers named specific apartments where you can buy. The interviewer, without operational experience and authority, found out about 3 points in a day. Where are the cops? Why are they getting paid?
    1. Coward
      Coward 21 October 2013 08: 35
      -9
      Did your friend inform the appropriate authorities? Or just you in the kitchen?
      1. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF 21 October 2013 09: 19
        10
        He reported, and even in the profile with a pencil he scribbled adrisochki. 0 reaction.
        1. alone
          alone 21 October 2013 19: 53
          0
          Quote: FC Skif
          He reported, and even in the profile with a pencil he scribbled adrisochki. 0 reaction.


          then the cops are sitting on the beat. that's why 0 reactions
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 21 October 2013 14: 03
        +4
        Coward
        Did your friend inform the appropriate authorities? Or just you in the kitchen?

        Which one are you right?
        Of the cops?
        My mother's neighbors also cooked.
        The old man living above him reported to the police.
        They came from the police, they carried out "explanatory work" with him.
        No, they didn’t beat, they just talked.
        He went away from sin to live in the country.
        No more people were found.
        1. zub46
          zub46 21 October 2013 15: 38
          +1
          So what do you think you need to do in such cases? Teach, give a recipe.
          1. vadson
            vadson 21 October 2013 16: 38
            +6
            Sverdlovsk region, my town is small. an old, thirty years ago, officer dormitory, right now, just a dormitory with all the attendant consequences. cooking in it, crocodile. cops fuck. I don’t know who and how to call Roizman, but as a result, he came to us from Burga - 300 km, with his soldiers went into this apartment, trampled all the drug there to bloody snot. maybe there was not just a stash, but there was also a sales outlet, in short an ambulance then collected. and Roizman left - to him, he had a deputy mandate for him on our cops. such a happy end.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 October 2013 08: 51
      +8
      Quote: FC Skif
      My sister rented an apartment on the third floor, and on the first floor they "cooked" and sold a crocodile. Within a year and a half. Where are the cops?

      You just weren’t in Nakhodka. In the house on the ground floor there is a cop, and on the other 4 floors of the hostel. So there were five gerycha sales points in this hostel. All of them were littered with insulins. Drugs were so boring that they pricked right on the benches that stood at the entrance to the cop. Although the Narks were greyhounds or the cops were dead, that's another question hi
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 21 October 2013 11: 12
        +8
        Recall a good word Amur partisans ....
        What inspired them to exterminate the policemen ????
        The fact that they were distributing drugs and were actually "dealers" ....
        Without the help of the policemen and their "associates" from the FSB, drugs would not have taken root in Russia.
        Look at what cars the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB officers drive, they cannot be imitated by "authoritative" businessmen .... prosecutors and judges began to catch up with them.
        There the "census" of the Juda is in effect ....
        Citizens of such a state do not need "zombies" either from TV, education or drugs ...
        Better yet, from everything ...
        And in the Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs this year hundreds have arrived .... BOGS ...
        So it will be possible to fight with cops not a sorrowful conscience)))))))
        1. Coward
          Coward 21 October 2013 12: 10
          +2
          Seaside. In the Primorsky Territory partisan.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 October 2013 13: 31
          +1
          Quote: Asgard
          Let us recall the good word of the Amur partisans ...

          No, I don’t remember.
          Quote: Asgard
          What inspired them to exterminate the policemen ????
          The fact that they were distributing drugs and were actually "dealers" ...

          Yeah, but they killed those who had nothing to do with their sale. Those who were easier to kill, those were killed by cattle.
      2. ebrd
        ebrd 21 October 2013 17: 12
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .In the house on the first floor there is a cop, and on the other 4 floors of the hostel. So in this hostel there were five points of sale of gerycha. All of them were littered with insulin. Drugs were so boring that they pricked right on the benches that stood at the entrance to the mentovka.

        Can it really be true? ... it doesn’t climb into any gates ... In Belarus, any telephone message to the police is automatically recorded, as well as the fact that the duty officer answers you — they cannot help but react! Otherwise they’ll rip off the Bosko!
        1. kavkaz8888
          kavkaz8888 21 October 2013 23: 01
          0
          Urgent Old Man to the Emperors.
      3. andrey-ivanov
        andrey-ivanov 22 October 2013 10: 55
        0
        I was in Nakhodka and now I am. Yes, there are plenty of narcs. In the morning you go to work - the staircase is littered with syringes. However, in Vladivostok the same picture. There was a friend of the operas in the anti-narcotics department, they somehow drank and I asked him why the whole area knows where the brothel is, but the cops don't know. Answer: "If I shake them out without an order from above, my superiors will give me such a cap that my head will fall off." So draw your conclusions
    3. Starfish
      Starfish 21 October 2013 10: 19
      +7
      Where are the cops?

      as where? at work. either feed from this point, or too lazy to do it.
      I was somehow robbed - a wallet was cut from my pocket. so they wrote me an unsubscribe in the refusal to initiate proceedings because no one saw the wallet in my pocket laughing
      here it is a burning desire to work laughing
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 21 October 2013 10: 43
      +3
      Quote: FC Skif
      The interviewer, without operational experience and authority, learned about 4 points in a day. Where are the cops? Why are they paying money?

      Duc and they are paid so that you ask: "where are the cops?"
    5. cdrt
      cdrt 21 October 2013 14: 00
      +5
      FC Skiff
      My sister rented an apartment on the third floor, and on the first floor they "cooked" and sold a crocodile. Within a year and a half. Where are the cops?

      My mother apparently did the same thing for the neighbors.
      To the question where are the cops?
      They regularly came to this apartment.
      I think you’ll guess the answer yourself ...
      In principle, I do not believe that points are possible in the area without being covered by the precinct (or superiors of the precinct)
    6. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 14: 38
      +3
      Listen, don’t you think this is strange?
      For 30 years of my life in Moscow, I have never encountered drugs and do not know where they are made ...

      and so that housewives reliably know this, I'm sorry, I do not believe ...
      it is rather from a series of what grandmothers fussed about at the porches ...

      and besides, if you already know, what would you do?
      I would immediately call the remote control 02, but what did they do?
      1. vadson
        vadson 21 October 2013 16: 50
        +4
        I wrote above about how in our city I worked with one cooking deputies of the region,
        I’ll describe another case - a drug addict lives behind my wall and sits on a crocodile. his mother is a doctor, head of therapy. even that ... half of the city was buried after her treatment. so, they don’t live in poverty, but his mother didn’t give money for drugs, he sat on a crocodile. in general, I go up the stairs, the cops stand - they caught him during the cooking, they ask the witnesses to go, I speak with pleasure. I ask what will happen to him - they say we will close it, the dose was large. half a year passes, he continues to expand and his mother bought him off. and through the former head of our department. He is now in the neighboring city as the head of the police department. here's a story - who caught elbows biting with frustration - he was guarded at the door for a year, and the head officer had raped the money and was too much for him.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 17: 46
          0
          and no one did anything?
          1. vadson
            vadson 21 October 2013 19: 44
            0
            Quote: DanaF1
            nobody did anything
  3. Maximus-xnumx
    Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 08: 17
    +7
    Quote: FC Skif
    Where are the cops? Why are they paying money?

    Then they pay so they don’t touch it.
    And by the way, your respected friend, you can say an accomplice in the crime. He could call the FSB hotline or what other measures to take. Didn’t. That's right, why ... where better about the imperfection of law enforcement agencies to trynd than to do something yourself. Just think a few more people sit on a needle. Think of a nation using chemical weapons of individual action destroy !!!
    PS Personally, I do not consume drugs and those who are engaged in their manufacture and distribution among my friends are not.
    1. peter_shchurov
      peter_shchurov 21 October 2013 08: 44
      -2
      Quote: Maximus-22
      Think of a nation using chemical weapons of individual action destroy !!!

      State Department Agents?
      1. Maximus-xnumx
        Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 09: 32
        +3
        No. Drug dealers and drug dealers.
    2. edmed
      edmed 21 October 2013 09: 20
      +9
      hi In our town, one lady was rapidly developing a network of pharmacies, pharmacies were growing like mushrooms, on every corner, although after the introduction of the law, everything was quiet, but here's the irony, the sowing lady is the wife of the head of the (militia) police, but interestingly, at that time a local OBNON was holding heroin dealers by the throat, this is the construction, and you, the FSB, are the "hot line".
    3. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF 21 October 2013 09: 21
      +1
      So the survey commissioned by high structures was. He wrote neatly there with a pencil in the questionnaire.
      1. Maximus-xnumx
        Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 09: 35
        +2
        Well ! People should know who to collect tribute from 0)).
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 October 2013 08: 19
    +6
    In 2011 alone, the Federal Drug Control Service of Russia confiscated 65 million doses


    But this is a scanty part of what is with the people. And why are such calculations being made when everyone understands and is clear that this is not a specific figure? For complacency? To blur the eyes?
  5. ReifA
    ReifA 21 October 2013 08: 20
    19
    It is necessary, as in Iran - for distribution, production, maintenance of dens, participation in this - Hang. And hooked on a needle would not hurt to treat forcibly.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 21 October 2013 14: 07
      0
      It is necessary, as in Iran - for distribution, production, maintenance of dens, participation in this - Hang. And hooked on a needle would not hurt to treat forcibly.

      In Singapore, drugs aren’t firing for distribution in my opinion, but they’ll shut them down for 20 years. And for the application, by the way, they will also close for 5 years
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 21 October 2013 14: 29
      0
      Quote: ReifA
      It is necessary, as in Iran - for distribution, production, maintenance of dens, participation in this - Hang.

      So it’s in Iran, it’s warm there ...
    3. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 14: 51
      -1
      Unfortunately, as the practice of the same Iran shows, this does not help much ...
      there are areas in Iran where the addict is every second resident ...

      this is not to mention that it’s useless to treat narcotics, they work better in the taiga for the good of the Motherland - anyway, they are waste material ...
  6. Sewer
    Sewer 21 October 2013 08: 33
    +8
    I will say this: drug addicts are beneficial to the state, because they don’t care what’s happening around them, they don’t need a country, they just need a dose. And they’ll do everything for a dose! there’s a policy of getting on the needle! Movies are broadcast daily from TV where addicts are shown by young people who are always having fun! In the news about addicts, they will definitely tell you in detail where they are sold and how you can cook, and so on! Is this a fight against drug addiction? It's not even funny, it's real genocide!
    1. Maximus-xnumx
      Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 09: 46
      +9
      Well do not tell. They (the drug-addicts) certainly do not need a country, but the country also has absolutely no profit from them. The STATE does not collect taxes from the Shyrev, narcotics do not work, infections spread only losses ... Here are drunkards and alcoholics is another matter. Here is their power in Russia they love, cherish and cherish. And what? People work as best they can, after work, they will flood the Zenoks and go home to the TV. Nothing bothers them (except for alcohol prices). Do not expect riots from them ... Beauty!
  7. Alikovo
    Alikovo 21 October 2013 08: 45
    +1
    capital punishment for all narkush without trial.
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 14: 52
      0
      let it be better in the forest tear down ...
      1. vadson
        vadson 21 October 2013 16: 54
        +1
        forest is not enough, let them die better
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 17: 48
          0
          actually this is a consequence ...

          besides, one can dig another Belomor channel, but somewhere in the taiga so that ordinary people do not suffer from them ...
  8. kavkaz8888
    kavkaz8888 21 October 2013 08: 47
    17
    Funny YOU. Why do you really think that the narcotics are on their own, and the committee members are only busy fighting with them? As a person closely familiar with the problem, I say that only gypsies go bankrupt without a garbage roof, and even then not all. Through the same junkies, the cops know about ALL the shirovarnyah. They put them in the monkey's house for a day, they will tell everything they know and what they heard in good faith. And what they "guess" about too.
    If the policemen catch all the junkies, how will they solve crimes?
    1. Maximus-xnumx
      Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 09: 38
      +1
      The bruises will remain ... These will be sold for a glass.
  9. Ddhal
    Ddhal 21 October 2013 08: 50
    +6
    And what is our government doing at all?
    What has been done recently for people? Where is the social advertising?
    Where are the countermeasures?
    Lukashenko - at the premiere!
    1. kavkaz8888
      kavkaz8888 21 October 2013 08: 55
      +5
      Old Man in the Emperors of All Russia !!!
    2. Maximus-xnumx
      Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 09: 51
      +6
      There are no alcohol statistics in Russia, but:
      In Russia, 75 people die from vodka annually
      About 3 million people in Russia are involved "in heavy and painful drinking."
      1/3 of all mental illnesses are related to alcoholism
      90% of moronic children are born from drinking parents.
      Almost 100% of those convicted of hooliganism committed misconduct in a drunken state.
      3/4 criminal cases committed under the influence of alcohol.
      Chronic alcohol intoxication reduces life by an average of 17 years
      The proportion of deaths from alcohol poisoning from 1960 to 1980. increased from 1,1% to 2,2%.
      In 1984, 513 people died from alcohol abuse - that is 100% of all deaths, of which 31 are men and 344 are women.
      1. Alyoha
        Alyoha 21 October 2013 10: 10
        +4
        No, well, vodka is rassovno correct))) And then they prick with weed then go everywhere and meat falls from them)))) Our vodka is all))) (This is sarcasm)
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 21 October 2013 14: 11
          +1
          No, well, vodka is rassovno correct))) And then they prick with weed then go everywhere and meat falls from them)))) Our vodka is all))) (This is sarcasm)

          I read it somewhere on the internet.
          According to GOST for vodka of the late 1970s, a 40% solution of ethyl alcohol is a strong drug and causes rapid addiction.
          The end of the 1980s in the new version of the same GOST: a 40% solution of ethyl alcohol is a drug and is quickly addictive
          ... late 2000s current standard: 40% ethyl alcohol is addictive.

          Did not check the truth or not
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 21 October 2013 16: 00
            +4
            Quote: cdrt
            Did not check the truth or not

            True
      2. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 14: 54
        -3
        it would be nice to bring newer statistics ...

        In addition, the Russian Federation is far from the first in terms of alcohol consumption, although in the 90s the problem was really serious, now the situation has improved ...
  10. Nayhas
    Nayhas 21 October 2013 08: 50
    15
    As if in one desomorphine trouble. The country was flooded with Chinese chemical drugs, the very same mixtures, "salt", "hedgehog", "raccoon", etc. Heroin wasn’t standing here, it’s much more expensive and it costs 228 to store it. According to the employees of the State Drug Cartel themselves, they are produced at chemical factories in China. They can even be ordered by mail via the Internet. the formula of the substance changes, it does not fall into the list of prohibited. "Strange as it may seem" the Chinese government's brutal internal drug addiction policy turns a blind eye to this process ...
    PS: I was always touched by such statements "In the center of Lipetsk, the police closed the drug den." And how did she close it? To the castle? Has the door been boarded up with nails, or has a police post been organized inside? Perhaps someone does not know, but a drug den is an ordinary apartment or a private house, a resident of which, being a drug addict, lets his brothers on a needle to smoke on his territory in the hope that something will break off for him too. It is NOT POSSIBLE to close it! You can show off in front of the cameras, arrange a mask show, get the narcs out of the hut, announce the closure of another drug den and ... a few minutes after all this hype leaves, the hut is again filled with familiar people, the electric stove turns on and ... The Bank of Vienna is the most reliable in the world ! In terms of the number of depositors, it ranks first on the planet, has branches in all corners of the world!
    1. Mr. Gambu4aS
      Mr. Gambu4aS 21 October 2013 09: 25
      +8
      Where to go young, not a lot, if with a price list?
      On the wall, the phone number is salt, spice.
      Everything is fine, young people are completely imposed on synthetic Chinese poison, acquaintances poisoned himself with this rubbish, one said that he had problems with the motor very quickly, he also tried it once, I don’t advise anyone, this is suicide! But you can be imprisoned for grass for life, go get poisoned with legal poison - salt, spice, and even alcohol is a stronger drug than grass, drink it, die!
  11. major071
    major071 21 October 2013 09: 10
    26
    For the distribution of drugs the death penalty should be introduced. So that the creatures know what they are doing. I'll tell you one case: in the 90s, I don't remember exactly now (and I worked as an opera for 17 years since the early 90s), together with the NON operas (there was no trace of the FSKN at that time), we took a southern direction in one train with a large party heroin toli Lebanese, toli Syrian. He spoke excellent Russian and therefore there were no obstacles in communication. He told us everything, handed over who needed, but on one condition - not to extradite him to his homeland with such an article. He said bluntly: for this they will cut off both my arms to the elbows, but I will serve you for five years and go out, even if not completely healthy, but with my hands. Like this. And about the "crocodile" I'll tell you that the rubbish is terrible. It is easy to make, addictive instantly, you start to rot in the first month of use. I saw them myself. Seemingly young, but unhealed ulcers on the arms and legs, rotting alive. Scary.
    And for all employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, never speak badly. Not all of them work in Moscow. There is, of course, der.mo, but there are more of those who honestly do their duty. It’s just that you didn’t see or hear anything about them, they almost never write about them in newspapers, they don’t talk on TV. Yes, and they themselves do not need it. IMHO.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 21 October 2013 14: 19
      +4
      major071
      And for all employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, never speak badly. Not all of them work in Moscow. There is, of course, der.mo, but there are more of those who honestly do their duty. It’s just that you didn’t see or hear anything about them, they almost never write about them in newspapers, they don’t talk on TV. Yes, and they themselves do not need it. IMHO.

      Everyone is always judged by the worst ...
      The norm of human society is visible.

      Although ... I can say to myself and my family that they saw more bad from the police than good (the friend of the father of the drunk was beaten to death (apparently by accident) at the police station, even there were no criminal cases), but the best thing I saw was when my car was stolen, the investigator immediately said - all I can do is issue a certificate for insurance tomorrow.
      Thanks to him by the way (sincerely), but somehow this is not enough for a positive image from communicating with law enforcement officers.
    2. zub46
      zub46 21 October 2013 15: 45
      0
      Well done. I support.
    3. Bober
      Bober 21 October 2013 17: 33
      +1
      I was in Saudi Arabia a couple of times for work. My Pakistani driver was. They also talked about this and about executions with chopping off. The action says this prelude and makes its way to the bones. For another five minutes the story continued, how terrible it all is from the outside, that you are beginning to worry about his psyche. Summarizes. : - I went to see five times ..... The curtain.
  12. Boris55
    Boris55 21 October 2013 09: 15
    +4
    Fifth Priority - Genocide Weapons
    “For the Slavs, no hygiene, only vodka and tobacco!”
    Adolf Gitler

    Further development was the transition from hot wars waged using conventional weapons to cold wars waged by the method of “cultural cooperation”. You can destroy or subjugate your whole people with the help of weapons of genocide, that is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, some vaccinations and GMO products. But, so that the people would not recognize them as weapons, they were disguised, with the help of culture, the media, specially thrown sayings and accept, under supposedly harmless means to relax, relieve stress, have fun and gain resistance to the disease. But in fact, these are dangerous poisons that undermine the genetics of the family, kill people spiritually and physically, both living and future generations. Russia annually loses only from the consequences of alcohol consumption over 700 thousand people a year. Do you think this is a conscious choice for everyone? This is an imaginary choice imposed, since our culture from childhood invites people to choose either lie No. 1 — use various dope in moderation, or lie No. 2 — without measure.

    The picture shows the consequences of using the "crocodile".
    1. I am
      I am 21 October 2013 10: 34
      +3
      Oh damn, well, you need to warn. I almost got sick ((((((((((((((((
    2. builder
      builder 21 October 2013 19: 37
      +3
      These clients should be taken to classrooms at schools. Very good visual agitation. May they at least serve society before death.
  13. ReifA
    ReifA 21 October 2013 09: 17
    +2
    Quote: Nayhas
    because the formula of the substance changes; it does not fall into the prohibited list.

    It is not form that is forbidden, but the content.
  14. Volkhov
    Volkhov 21 October 2013 09: 20
    +2
    Drug addiction and alcoholism are "past wars" in which the Zionist government and its law enforcement officers are destroying the vulnerable part of society, but there are non-drinkers and non-drinkers - how and from what to protect themselves ... that's where the topic for the forum is, to find a jointly brewing danger and confront her!
    Of course, the change of power is not considered illegal, and even this is too primitive for the intellectuals of the site - you need to find the opportunity to live among cannibals without even criticizing them.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 21 October 2013 09: 38
      -12 qualifying.
      Many on the site do not understand the role of the church in the stupefying of the people. Until this realization comes, all efforts aimed at combating tobacco, alcohol, which was considered a drug before the 72 year, and other intoxicants will be like Donquixote's struggle with windmills.

      1. Boris55
        Boris55 21 October 2013 09: 57
        0
        Create the right religion or ideology, introduce it into people's heads and rule. We have the dominant religion - Christianity, and control programs have also been introduced into Christianity: “God tolerated and ordered us”, “They hit on the left cheek, turn the right one”, “all power is from God”, “There is no paradise on earth, heaven is there ...” These programs form the psychology of humility, which is so necessary for the ruling "pseudo-elite." Also, a very important point is the use of alcohol in ceremonies, which forms a “culture of drinking” among believers: a lot is a sin, and in moderation is normal. Television is also a priority. The terrorist attack on television will be shown with pleasure. But every act of terrorism is precisely for this purpose that millions of spectators will see it. And if the media get out of control and agree not to show terrorist attacks, then these attacks will disappear from our lives. But why carry it out if no one knows about it? Hitler’s quote about the use of the media in management is noteworthy: “It is much better to install a reproducer in each village and thus inform people and entertain them than to provide them with the opportunity to independently assimilate political, scientific and other knowledge. Just so that it would not take anyone’s head to tell the conquered peoples on the radio about their history; music, music, nothing but music. ” As you can see, Hitler’s ideas have been successfully implemented today. Also at this priority it is very easy to clash different ideologies - Christianity and Islam, communism and capitalism, atheism and idealism, etc. - The main principle of today's management is “divide, bleed and conquer”. In our example, if you are a very smart gangster, then on the 3 priority you will create your religion, draw a person into it, and he will donate his apartment to the “needs of God”, you just have to rub your hands.

        There are plenty of examples with sectarians giving their property to crooks. So why do you think the church is not doing the same? How the church differs from the sect - nothing.
        1. Mr. Gambu4aS
          Mr. Gambu4aS 21 October 2013 10: 11
          +7
          In my opinion, blaming the church for poisoning people is simply "bullshit", in Christianity and other religions it is a sin, and even with the scoop there was atheism, for some reason it did not stop anyone from drinking!
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 21 October 2013 10: 26
            -2
            Quote: Mr. Gambu4aS
            In my opinion, blaming the church for poisoning people is simply "bullshit", in Christianity and other religions it is a sin, and even with the scoop there was atheism, for some reason it did not stop anyone from drinking!


            Could you clarify exactly where the Bible says about the dangers of drinking?
            You do not remember the tale of how Vladimir chose religion and why he chose Christianity (although for some reason the church is called not Christian but Orthodox :)?
            "... Wine, he said, is fun for the Russians; we cannot be without him ..."

            Do you know that the ideologist of communism, K. Marx, was the son of a rabbi and all his works were written with their permission?
          2. Volkhov
            Volkhov 21 October 2013 10: 49
            +5
            In the 90s, the church had the right to import cigarettes and wine duty-free, that is, participation in the process is quite official.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 21 October 2013 12: 34
              -3
              Quote: Volkhov
              90, the church had the right to import cigarettes and wine duty-free, that is, participation in the process is quite official.

              Minus zombies are not able to assess reality.
              Narcotic church nonsense rushing from all cracks not wanting to admit the facts.
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              2. Boris55
                Boris55 21 October 2013 13: 07
                +2
                LETTER OF THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION FROM 04.11.96 N 11-01-08 ON PROVIDING CUSTOMS BENEFITS

                MINISTRY OF FINANCE OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

                LETTER
                from November 4 to November 1996 N 11-01-08

                ABOUT PROVISION OF CUSTOMS BENEFITS

                In accordance with instructions of the Russian Government
                Federation (HF-P2-31286 from 12.09.96 and HF-P2-33455 from 06.10.96)
                The Ministry of Finance of Russia considered the request of the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia
                Alexia on the ban on customs clearance of tobacco products and alcohol
                drinks as humanitarian aid and reports the following.
                Protocol of the meeting of the Commission on International
                humanitarian and technical assistance under the Government of the Russian
                Federations from 08.07.94 N 25 determined the volume of tobacco supplies
                products in the amount of 50 thousand tons and protocol from 26.03.96 N 35 -
                church wine in the amount of 112,3 million liters
                .
                Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation from 18.07.96
                816 "On privileges in the payment of customs duties in relation to
                goods imported into the customs territory of the Russian Federation in
                quality of humanitarian aid "it has been established that benefits for the payment
                customs payments in respect of goods imported to the customs
                the territory of the Russian Federation as humanitarian aid, not
                apply to excisable goods, as well as goods imported
                under foreign trade agreements (contracts) providing for payment
                of these goods by Russian entities.
                In this regard, in accordance with the order of the Government
                Russian Federation (OD-P2-27864 from 07.08.96) Ministry of Finance of Russia
                considered the request of the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Alexy
                on the possibility of accepting excisable goods in a humanitarian manner
                assistance
                within the framework established by the Commission on International
                humanitarian and technical assistance under the Government of the Russian
                Federation.
                Given the limited spending of the Russian budget
                Orthodox Church and the impossibility of paying all due
                customs payments (excise taxes, VAT and customs duties), as well as
                Whereas the Russian Orthodox Church at
                the restoration of their monasteries, temples, churches and parishes,
                destroyed over many years and during the war, experiencing financial
                difficulties, and at the same time she is widely involved in charity
                activity, the Ministry of Finance of Russia, as an exception, supported the request
                Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Alexy on the opportunity to accept
                humanitarian aid excisable goods under
                established quota.
                However, by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation from 18.09.96
                1363 "On strengthening budgetary discipline in terms of customs
                payments "established that the financing of social programs and
                any other activities by providing benefits for
                customs payments in a manner different from that provided
                Customs legislation of the Russian Federation is not allowed.
                According to the calculations of the State Customs Committee of Russia on the basis of the range of imported goods
                and rates of duties and taxes the amount of benefits provided as
                on 15.10.96 regarding issued 18 billion cigarettes amounted to
                830 billion rubles, in relation to the registered 21 million liters of wine
                -
                242 billion rubles.
                Given the above, as well as the request of the Patriarch of Moscow and
                All Russia Alexy on the ban on customs clearance of tobacco products and
                alcoholic beverages as humanitarian aid, Ministry of Finance of Russia
                considers it necessary to cancel the decisions of the Commission on
                international humanitarian and technical assistance under the Government
                Russian Federation from 08.07.94 N 25 and 26.03.96 N 35.

                First Deputy
                Minister of Finance
                Russian Federation
                A.P. VAVILOV
      2. Starfish
        Starfish 21 October 2013 10: 53
        -2
        Boris, you are wrong
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 21 October 2013 11: 00
          -4
          Quote: Starfish
          Boris, you are wrong

          What exactly? How did Prince Vladimir, the son of a Jewish woman, Malki and a rabbi, choose a religion?
          .
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 21 October 2013 14: 23
            +1
            Prince Vladimir, son of a Jewish woman Malki and a rabbi

            Lord!
            And this is where it comes from?
            Share a link to reputable academic sources?
            Well, or to the source?
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 21 October 2013 14: 58
              -1
              Quote: cdrt
              Lord!
              And this is where it comes from?

              Prince Vladimir in the "Tale of Bygone Years" was called "robichich", that is, "rabbi"

              1. kaktus
                kaktus 21 October 2013 17: 11
                -1
                robic, i.e. slave son
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                2. Boris55
                  Boris55 21 October 2013 17: 16
                  -2
                  Quote: kaktus
                  robic, i.e. slave son

                  Watch the video!
                  In Russia there were no slaves or slaves!
                  .
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  15. Anper
    Anper 21 October 2013 09: 46
    +6
    The solution to this problem by the state at the present moment can be defined as "who wants - seeks opportunities, who does not want - seeks reasons."
  16. pensioner
    pensioner 21 October 2013 10: 03
    +5
    Quote: domokl
    Urgent need to introduce responsibility for use.

    100% - for. Why the destruction of self should not be punishable by law, but an outsider should? The social harm caused by drug use is the same in both cases. And further. Caught on drugs - a lifelong (well, or a very long-lasting years, commercials 15-20 ...) ban on driving, working in the field of education, public services, medicine and other sensitive areas.
    1. Alyoha
      Alyoha 21 October 2013 10: 15
      +2
      Addicts do not live for 15-20 years. But what do you indulge in yourself ?!))) How is it to destroy your personality according to the law? (Then all Russians that use alcohol-containing liquids must be judged) Do you often take vodka or cigarette?
  17. leon-iv
    leon-iv 21 October 2013 10: 11
    -8
    Died and FIG with them is not a pity. The gene pool has become cleaner. That's generally not a pity for the drug.
    1. Maximus-xnumx
      Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 10: 39
      +9
      No pity. But just before you die one more drug will add 5-6. And those 5-6 more ... So soon nothing will remain of the gene pool ... Yes, and you should not confuse it: drug addiction is a disease, drug trafficking is a crime.
    2. pr 627
      pr 627 21 October 2013 10: 49
      +7
      It’s about our compatriots, for me it’s fairer to punish distributors toughly, everyone will be punished. Consumers are criminally liable to work, to work out their content. The word is not sorry for the distributors only, indulgence for consumers only until the first term, after punishing it hard .Because the drug addict who has not recovered is a permanent threat to society.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 21 October 2013 11: 24
        +8
        Quote: pr 627
        Because a drug addict who has not recovered is a permanent threat to society.

        There are no former drug addicts (meaning hard drugs: heroin, etc.). A person who has tried a hard drug for the rest of his life will be pulled. It's all about willpower. Example: Kinchev.
        So, it’s stupid not to try drugs at all, under any pretext you’ll be livelier. And definitely healthier.
        By the way, Ethanol according to the pharmacological classification refers (according to the physiological effect) to hard drugs! The difference is that it quickly neutralizes in the body, decomposing sequentially to carbon dioxide and water. So beer and vodka should not be abused either! yes
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 21 October 2013 11: 33
          +1
          I agree with everything except
          There are no former drug addicts
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 21 October 2013 14: 26
          0
          There are no former drug addicts

          Like former alcoholics by the way. They also endure for some time, then always break down
    3. builder74
      builder74 21 October 2013 11: 51
      +7
      And this is not "the narcotics are dead" - these are OUR PEOPLE DIED. Those who were not brought up, taught to overcome difficulties, were introduced to foolishness at the age of half a child, and so on. Which none of us could, or did not want to help at the right time.
  18. Sonik
    Sonik 21 October 2013 10: 19
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: domokl
    T. To smoke marijuana is no longer considered the use of drugs .. So, have fun ...

    I talked with older people, so in 70 the grass grew on the outskirts of the city and was not needed by anyone in the fig. The people respected alcohol more than grass. They started to smoke it massively after it was banned.

    They started to use more because of ADVERTISING drugs in Hollywood movies (in particular). From these films the impression was created that smoking this nonsense is cool and most importantly the illusion and myths were created that it was completely safe. Therefore, they banned and did it right! As I quit smoking tobacco, I myself know what it was like to smoke when watching old Soviet films where cigarettes drag on and on (Soviet hidden tobacco advertising).
  19. apostrophe
    apostrophe 21 October 2013 10: 33
    +2
    Quote: domokl
    Let me remind you of the fate of Vysotsky ... And many of the same ... They knew and used. Even under pain of criminal liability. Marafet, a taoka the name for drugs was still in Tsarist Russia.


    That is, in support of the opinion that in the 70s everyone knew about the interesting properties of hemp, poppy, do you give an example about a person from a bohemian who uses morphine? Doesn't this logic bother you? smile
  20. Maximus-xnumx
    Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 10: 34
    +4
    Quote: Boris55
    We have the dominant religion - Christianity

    I do not agree! We are now dominated by pure water; occultism. Some horoscopes every day on TV mean something.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 21 October 2013 10: 39
      -2
      Quote: Maximus-22
      I do not agree! We are now dominated by pure water; occultism. Some horoscopes every day on TV mean something.


      Biblical culture will be more correct. Go to museums - 80% of all biblical paintings. Cinema - always flies somewhere, then the church in the background, then the icon, then baptized ...
      The culture of society determines its moral character.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 21 October 2013 11: 30
        -1
        Anyone who has minus me - I highly recommend visiting at least one art museum at least once in my life.
        If there is no such opportunity - look at the Internet paintings of famous artists about people's lives
        .
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 21 October 2013 11: 39
      0
      Well, it would be possible to conduct a survey on the site — we would see who is more — Christians or those who look at horoscopes and live by them. By the way, as I understand, you are also one of those occultists, if you say that, after all, if you interrogate, you don’t admit that his religion is TV with a horoscope
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 21 October 2013 12: 25
        +1
        Quote: Gleb
        as I understand you are also one of those occultists

        Not. Unlike those who believe in God, I believe him.
        Occult "sciences", like the church, are a diversion from God, blocking of consciousness for direct communication of a person with Him.
        Horoscopes are a way to structurelessly control people's behavior.

        Regarding the survey ...
        I expressed my attitude towards the church, on this forum thread above, there were plenty of minuses - consider the survey conducted.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 21 October 2013 12: 38
          0
          I wrote to Maximus like that

          ("The birch was crying, the aspen was crying, only hemp was neighing like cattle")
      2. Maximus-xnumx
        Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 13: 13
        0
        Quote: Gleb
        By the way, as I understand it, you are also one of those occultists, just say?

        No, not one of them.
  21. pr 627
    pr 627 21 October 2013 10: 34
    +1
    So far, one thing is clear, the state has not included all of its capabilities to combat this threat. There are many recipes for fighting, but these are just words. No manifestation of the steel will to destroy is a threat to the people and the state.
    1. Starina_hank
      Starina_hank 21 October 2013 17: 38
      0
      A CAN IT BE FAVORABLE FOR ANYONE?
  22. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 21 October 2013 10: 37
    +3
    Quote: leon-iv
    Died and FIG with them is not a pity. The gene pool has become cleaner. That's generally not a pity for the drug.

    The people were not born as drug people. They are dragged into narcotics at a minor age, when a person has not yet fully formed as a person. The narcotics, of course, are not quite human, but their gene pool is different. My opinion: to treat the drug, including forced. Distributors - execute.
  23. Averias
    Averias 21 October 2013 10: 53
    +6
    I’ll start from this point - there was always Narcotism (even Chingih Khan’s wars strewed hemp on hot stones and relaxed, used all kinds of religious cults and rituals, etc., etc., revolutionaries very much approved marafet (cocaine), in Europe at one time (among the nobility ), it was fashionable to give silver and gold syringes, Indians and Mexicans used mescaline (Peyote cactus), etc., etc.).

    But as soon as the powers of the world realized that with the help of drugs one can control the masses, and also make profit. And then it started. They say that during the USSR there was no drugs, this is debatable. Itself distinguished people conjuring over poppy straws and tearing poppy bushes in the gardens at night. There is no dispute, there was not such a mass, this is a fact, they were afraid. They were afraid but still consumed. Among the party children (golden youth), Morphine-hydrochloride was at a premium, and then LSD. But it was a taboo, it was impossible to speak.

    Why am I doing all this? And besides, there is no need to argue about whether it was or was not. The question is what to do about it? And here it is just complete suspense.

    I was in Tomsk a couple of years ago, experienced a shock. In the summer, the crocodile can always be calculated by smell. Alive corpses walk along the streets (please do not generalize, but there are many in the crowd). Despite the fact that in the same Tomsk, a lot of rehabilitation centers. A sense. literally not long ago I visited the Tomsk portal, in the video section there are some videos about people under the salts. Darkness.

    And now to replace the crocodile, came a mixture of salt. This is generally darkness. A single application causes irreversible changes in the brain. Hospitals and doctors are in shock, there is no antidote, no tests. The Federal Drug Control Service talks about multiformula and how to deal with it. Is it nonsense to prescribe in the law: Any substance that causes a change in consciousness, is sold without a doctor’s prescription and good reason for its use, as well as produced in a makeshift (or other way), as well as acquired bypassing pharmacies and institutions authorized to trade them - THIS DRUG and TERMS must be the most brutal up to the tower (for life).

    Heroin addicts, with 20 years of experience, without any problems (withdrawal, etc.) go to salt. And then, they shout: Better to inject heroin, just do not try salt. In how.

    To a professor who synthesized artificial kanabininobl (JWH-250), telling a fairy tale about the fact that he did this for his terminally ill son. They asked a question, but do you understand which genie was released from the bottle. You understand what will happen, you understand that you are a criminal. To this, he muttered cynically about alleviating suffering.

    You only think so with us. Yes, nevermind, they are also no better. In the SOHO region (Those who were in England will understand), clubs have long had no amphitamin, there are only multi-formulators. The people did not notice how hooked from one to another. And everywhere, I repeat, everywhere the government knows about it and does nothing really. Why? The answer is too obvious. Money, money, and again money and the ability to control the masses. Drugs have long turned into weapons.

    Sorry for the confusion is not big, wrote on emotions.

    PS Do you think that there is no such problem in Arab countries, yeah, keep your pocket wider. Only they are just stepping into that "dermo", which we have already plunged into.
    And also, I have to say a big thank you to Byron. It was they who once made heroin and it was sold in pharmacies as a remedy for colds. And when they came to their senses (all of Europe became addicted to heroin), it was too late to rush about. Banned, and that, a huge black market appeared. And now this company Byron, in every possible way rejects the laurels of the inventors of heroin.
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 21 October 2013 11: 58
      0
      Quote: Averias
      And also, I have to say a big thank you to Byron. It was they who once made heroin and it was sold in pharmacies as a remedy for colds. And when they came to their senses (all of Europe became addicted to heroin), it was too late to rush about.

      Where does this information come from? belay
      Diacetylmorphine (heroin) was first synthesized in 1874 by Alder Wright, an English chemist who worked at a medical school at St. Mary's Hospital in London.
      The Germans (at that time, chemistry, as a science, was not as developed as it is now) did not have complete information about the physiological effect of heroin (at that time there were no obligatory world tests that preceded the introduction of a new substance into the drug register. Mandatory tests were introduced after " thalidamide "case). "Heroin" (German trade name), by the Baer firm, was used as an antitussive drug (analogue of codeine) due to ignorance of its side properties.
      1. Averias
        Averias 21 October 2013 12: 52
        0
        I agree, but it was they who launched it into mass production and without a prescription sale. And on account of the fact that they didn’t know about the side effects - they were complete nonsense, they knew, even as they knew. But since the demand for this cough medicine was enormous (profit, respectively), they were silent about it. I just did not quite correctly put it. But this does not change the essence, a ticket to the life of heroin, it was Byron who gave it.
  24. dmit-xnumx
    dmit-xnumx 21 October 2013 10: 55
    +3
    My opinion: drug dealers should be burned alive, in a crematorium, from a flamethrower, with obligatory broadcast on TV, drug addicts should be corrected with the help of correctional institutions, because this infection is worse than the plague, leprosy and should be isolated, since treating it is a waste of time and strength. To replace the notorious "human rights" with Human responsibilities.
    1. major071
      major071 21 October 2013 11: 25
      +9
      During my opera activity (17 years), I saw only ONE addict, who TOTALLY tied to drugs. He just started to thump and a year later died from alcohol poisoning. And we could not help him. Treated for drugs - died of vodka.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 21 October 2013 11: 35
        +1
        I also remember familiar operas. and to be called decent, really struggling with drug addiction .....- well, I also remember one.
        this is the question of who we face in life
      2. Averias
        Averias 21 October 2013 11: 36
        +2
        It may sound cynical, but in the east there is a saying: After trying Allah’s tears (poppy), you’ll cry your whole life (I can’t vouch for accuracy). However, time shows that it is so.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 21 October 2013 11: 46
          0
          the meaning is clear. The purpose of this scripture is understandable. but a person will not cry all his life. A strong man with a desire to live. Most will cry, but not all
          1. Averias
            Averias 21 October 2013 12: 05
            0
            I agree with you. Dogmas are not always true and correct. The brain is not given to a man for a reason, and the individual must decide what he wants and can do in this life.
  25. Bezarius
    Bezarius 21 October 2013 11: 03
    +2
    I consider this problem a new form of natural selection. However, I consider it absolutely unacceptable to introduce young people to this. Those who contribute to the familiarization of young people and even more so sells them the drug should be given lifelong. Lifetime is also worth giving to authorized persons who do not fulfill their direct duties and even condone this phenomenon.

    However, by discussing on the forums we will not solve any problems here, there is roi.ru, there is change.org, why not create a petition on this topic and promote the fight against drug addiction?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 21 October 2013 11: 52
      +1
      Quote: Bezarius
      I consider this the challenge of a new form of natural selection .


      And the extermination of the Indians in America and the corral of those remaining on the reservation is the problem of the old form of natural selection? Or maybe it's still not divine providence, not natural selection, and the work of man?
      1. Maximus-xnumx
        Maximus-xnumx 21 October 2013 13: 06
        0
        I agree ! A drug addict is a sick person, and drug addiction is a disease of society. A deadly disease.
  26. adm656
    adm656 21 October 2013 11: 34
    +2
    While drug addicts themselves will be considered sick and not criminals, the fight against drug addiction will be useless. It is high time to equate drug use, namely use, with serious crimes. And punish accordingly. Caught drug use? Arrest, prison .. Or some sort of special camp where they will not be treated, namely, they will get rid of dope .. by the toughest methods. There is no place for liberalism in this matter. Drug trafficking is relevant as long as there are consumers .. This is where the first line of defense should go. To speed up consumption first of all. By the toughest methods. liberal snot left for geyropa.When Islamic radicalism is established in geyropa as the main force, and I have no doubt about it, tolerant Europeans, so kind and funny, will disappear on their own.
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 21 October 2013 12: 17
      0
      Quote: adm656
      Or some sort of special camp where they will not heal, namely, to get rid of dope .. by the most stringent methods.

      So you just send these people to the next world. Have you ever seen a real (experienced) heroin addict? These people (in the absence of a dose) develop insufficiency (reduced working capacity leading to death) of a good half of the internal organs! A drug (with constant intake) changes the normal functioning of the body in such a way that the body is often not viable without it. On this addiction is a disease. Not a felony. Priorities are set that way.
      1. adm656
        adm656 21 October 2013 13: 08
        +2
        So the time has come to change priorities. There are precedents. Sodomy has always been considered a perversion, but now it has been elevated to the rank of almost God's gift ... A drug addict will never give up drugs himself. And you won’t be forced to do it by any fairy tales or kind words. Only through the most severe pressure. You can even call it a cure. Well, and if he dies ... well .. drug addicts are already dead. And no one regrets it. They choose their fate. This is my opinion .. So far, the struggle is only with with the distribution of drugs, and not with their use, you don’t have to wait for the result. Which, in principle, we observe ...
  27. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 21 October 2013 11: 41
    +2
    Drugs are so big and easy money that only under the threat of execution on the spot, they might stop distributing. Although the money is so easy and so big that from time to time you have to shoot the shooters. In general, a vicious circle.
  28. mithridate
    mithridate 21 October 2013 11: 54
    0
    it is necessary to fight against drug addiction by the most merciless measures. But with our corruption it is useless
  29. za VDV
    za VDV 21 October 2013 12: 33
    +2
    as one acquaintance said "junkie" sat on "screw" - went into the hut in the spring and when he came out, it was already deep autumn. That's how half a year and boiled the nonsense. Only plant. distributors, carriers, for life. addicts from 3 to 5. Only a hot iron can burn out this muck. The biggest danger for Russians is not alcohol and smoking, but drug addiction. And no control and supervision of brothels.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 21 October 2013 12: 58
      0
      Quote: za VDV
      I went to the hut in the spring and when I left, it was already deep autumn.

      The same thing in Bashkiria in Oktyabrsky auto electrician told himself. Only reason is vodka ... There are former drug addicts, there are. Rarely, but there are. I've seen enough examples.
      1. Alyoha
        Alyoha 21 October 2013 13: 24
        0
        Vodka is a very strong and dangerous drug, it must be banned, cigarettes. And then in our country, alcoholicotinum garbage in order to somehow raise their self-esteem is slandered by "sticks". But there is no difference in them, that the one is alcoholic and that the other is just sitting on the other. And children are like sponges, they see that the grandfather drinks, smokes and also starts drinking, smoking pounding.)
  30. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 21 October 2013 13: 13
    +1
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  31. Alyoha
    Alyoha 21 October 2013 13: 30
    0
    Quote: za VDV
    The biggest danger for Russians is not alcohol and smoking, but drug addiction

    In, the drug-airborne forces officer is sitting on a smoke and rassovno-regular alcohol, and other types of drug addicts of our alkonark-airborne forces are unsettled.
  32. wei
    wei 21 October 2013 13: 53
    0
    IMHO no victory over drug addiction and alcoholism, substance abuse will not happen when.
    the use of substances causing a CHANGED CONSCIOUSNESS
    1 it must be recognized that altered consciousness is achieved using toxic substances (by which any substances that cause this altered consciousness must be recognized) and this is tobacco and alcohol and even adrenaline
    I mean that the chatters didn’t start to smell glue, there are no tablets, you will always find a smoking mixture, and not many will refuse a mug of cold beer after a hard working week
    2 degree of change in consciousness that Russian is good .... how to determine? if he sways a lot, but the patient is still alive rather than dead?
    3 and most importantly 3-4 (or so) million "lost" have embarked on the true path do not drink do not smoke go in for sports go to libraries and want to have fun comparable to a kumar they are athletic, well-read and ambitious and what is the war? redistribution of spheres of influence?
  33. vladkust
    vladkust 21 October 2013 14: 07
    0
    what to punish for use is definitely a way-labor discipline in the far north, the far east .... that is, completely change a person’s views on life from Moscow to Magadan (or where else) from the office to the mines ........ ... and for the distribution of the shooting is indicative ..... and even the cops who are roofing this business take away everything that was acquired from the whole family since he acquired his blessings exclusively on the death of people


    and such an example: when I was young, I dabbled in hemp so I smoked it with cops against drugs .... they themselves blow it with young guys, and they came and took those who had smoked an hour ago to add a star .. .... fought in one word)
  34. me
    me 21 October 2013 16: 16
    -3
    Could not resist the temptation - die under the fence. The same goes for alcoholics. This is called natural selection.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 21 October 2013 18: 04
      +1
      Quote: i
      ... This is called natural selection.

      It is called - G E N O C I D !!!
      1. me
        me 23 October 2013 17: 51
        0
        Yes, to some extent this is genocide, but on the part of the parents of these degenerates who did not give them a banal upbringing and do not look for those responsible on the side, no one forces us to inject drugs and thump too. Life just throws up temptations and you need to be able to resist them. The planet is already overpopulated and to some extent it is a struggle for a place. Let the addicts and alcoholics die and perhaps, let's hope, more worthy people useful to society will come in their place.
  35. Igoranpapa
    Igoranpapa 21 October 2013 16: 18
    +3
    People need to save young people, not rassusolit. In schools to explain to them that you should be healthy, play sports. And then you will be fine. And right now we see that young drishi, for such a fight in school you raise such a boil. I when I studied like this we didn’t fight once a day for one. So propaganda is wild everywhere. I used it myself, I ate 32 half of my life in the fog, I ate all the current that the crocadiles were not brought up, God was merciful. Now I don’t smoke, but you can’t get your health back. I dig every 2 months because there is one name for the liver. Lano is a brother, doctor, people save the youth, they are dying. But now a new misfortune is legal, before it even smoked, and now there is just a cocktail of 5 kinds of any .. there’s nothing that will happen. And the hucksters started to hinder everything there so that they could go to NGIM. To shoot them, I need my hand to not flinch. this kuyuhi is worse than with gerych kumar, I have experienced it myself) people fight for your relatives, don’t give up, I ask you, the lights are dying, they are dying. What after us remnant think about it
  36. silver_roman
    silver_roman 21 October 2013 16: 53
    +2
    People! Remember your school dream. Do not change it to desomorphine. Who do you want to be - a man or a zombie?

    I would give an example here not only for desomorphine, but in general for drugs in general.
    Sometimes during the holiday you will smoke a couple of cigarettes and already think, God forbid, get hooked, and people, in pursuit of the buzz, are rotting alive. I'm just in shock.
    Maybe if you build propaganda, then you need to specify the purpose of the spread of the drug. and the goal is the same: to kill the consumer. Let me know that they are trying to kill them intentionally, suddenly at least the animal unconditional instinct of self-preservation will work.
    In general, it’s not necessary to close dens, but to execute drug dealers. When, when our authorities will already understand this ...
    ps once China took an example from us, now we need to bart an example from them in this and not only the issue.
  37. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 21 October 2013 17: 12
    +1
    unfortunately, many comments here do not own the subject, but are full of emotional cries like they would die faster, etc. But it's not that simple! nicotine, alcohol, "grass" are all drugs and do not argue please .. EVERYONE knew about the unfortunate crocodile! But they could not do anything. allegedly they could not prohibit the sale under the pretext that the rights of the patients would be infringed, but the fact that 99% of these patients are drug addicts to Mrs. Golikova and the rest I apologize to shit ... I personally wrote a letter to the Governor of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug asking when the sale would be stopped, and the answer came that I could not ... the federal government knows better! It's no secret that the Federal Drug Control Service itself supervises the entire drug turnover, the money is crazy and there are too few ideological ones .. Now, more precisely, for several years now (the situation with the crocodile is repeated, mind you), Chinese synthetic drugs have become widespread. Psyche suffers from them just terribly! If a crocodile decomposed flesh, then this poison burns out the brain, some go crazy, no need to shout at drug addicts and addicts, and this trouble can affect anyone.
  38. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 21 October 2013 17: 26
    0
    Quote: cdrt
    I don’t know what kind of elders, but in the 70s, a lot of people (to put it mildly) did not even realize that it could be smoked. The same poppy grew en masse in the gardens of villagers.

    100500
    Grandmother in Ukraine raised poppies in the garden. And no one even thought about anything other than culinary use.

    This is not that poppy
  39. Grandson of Veteran
    Grandson of Veteran 21 October 2013 18: 49
    +1
    Quote: ReifA
    It is necessary, as in Iran - for distribution, production, maintenance of dens, participation in this - Hang. And hooked on a needle would not hurt to treat forcibly.

    And the head of the structure involved in compulsory. treatment, put Zhenya Roizman!
    1. jagdpanzer
      jagdpanzer 21 October 2013 19: 12
      0
      This is the bonanza dear! just so give a horseradish such a feeder!
  40. Slavs
    Slavs 21 October 2013 19: 41
    +1
    Is addiction a disease? Rave. You can get a cold ... They always try to know what they are going to ... I don’t feel sorry for any alcoholic or drug addict. Do you know why it is so harsh in their judgments? I tried it. I knew what it was and tried it anyway ... I evaluate myself at that time as a moron. Youth is dangerous with its maximalism ... But, all the same, I think in 14-16 you already understand what you are doing ... Thank God, now the gym, the family ... Son of 15 ... I try to keep my social circle under control, I drag him into the hall ... And what does WHO recognize as a disease, I don’t give a damn ... They used to plant for sodomy, but now they are parading ... Also from the filing of various world organizations ...
    1. Alex toll
      Alex toll 22 October 2013 11: 06
      0
      You’ll forgive me, I also get a drug addict in the past and found the strength to jump off this train and it’s gratifying and probably you can protect your children from this, but imagine you are a young maximalist and they’re stupidly slowing you down, warm your face on the floor and on the bunk area for 8 years for the jamb, and this time the dealer walks and distributes the loot for protection. And you go out as a prisoner, and such a man in gloves and with domes on his back - are these effective measures ?!

      Here you are a strong man and you could and who can not? all over? and they don’t need them like that and that’s why it goes on like this - people rot alive, are thrown out of the window, etc.

      It is with this example that people should help rid our nation of such misfortune !!!

      My position is simple - drug. it’s evil, but forgive the legal ones, we won’t forget, and this is the first thing to fight against - alcohol and smoking - by example, laws and society should also help - I saw a small smoker - by the ear and into the police station to talk + a letter to mother and father about this - they will be able to solve this problem in time, but here again a new one pops up)))) and parents will be able to conduct the conversation correctly? they also need to be taught - of course not all, but let's say a letter to parents from the Police and instructions - a memo - how to help your child correctly.
  41. saygon66
    saygon66 21 October 2013 20: 27
    +1
    - And all the same, something is wrong here ... Our "grass" grew under the fence, and there is no need to spread it, both poppy and dope ... and not many people consumed it. And there was no special prohibition on alcohol ... everyone drank a port bag when they were young, but what about ... And there weren't many of those who were stale and stuck ... Maybe because everyone was in business then - and you plannak or a dark drunk is useless unfit.
  42. Humpty
    Humpty 21 October 2013 20: 37
    +1
    The pig will find dirt in the saddle. There is another problem. Underfoot the mass of all foolishness grows and will grow. I will not advertise. I think it’s free or not to add drugs through the media. Maybe such articles as well.