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The Pentagon will change the army in new camouflage due to constant complaints about the uniform

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Only eight years passed after the new universal camouflage was adopted in the US military, costing the budget $ 5 billion. According to the American media, now the command was thinking about the development of other uniforms. According to forecasts, this should cost the treasury back in $ 4 billion.


In 2004, the Pentagon decided to abandon two traditional types of uniforms, which have been used for many years. One of the types of camouflage was intended for fighting in the desert, the other - in the forest belt. Leading US defense enterprises participated in the competition for the development of a new type of camouflage uniform.

As a result, won the project UCP, suitable, according to its developers, for use in any terrain. The digital camouflage of a gray-green shade is used by the US Army in all climatic zones.

According to The Daily Beast, the UCP has not met expectations of universality. The army urgently wants to withdraw such a form from circulation. According to veterans of the Iraqi war, the fabric of the UCP squeaked on contact with any object, which showed the whereabouts of the soldiers during the night raid. Participants in military campaigns in Afghanistan complained that in the highlands the enemy quickly noticed soldiers on the ground due to the contrast of colors. Therefore, many Americans wear the MultiCam uniform in Afghanistan, which participated in the competition to order the Pentagon, but lost to the UCP kit.

The military often asked the command to pay attention to the shortcomings of the form, but their demands were heard only five years later, when the UCP had already been mass produced. The US Congress intervened in the situation in 2009: a bill was passed that obliged the army to carry out a program for choosing a new camouflage for use in Afghanistan and to replace the UCP. This led to the selection of the already well-known form of MultiCam. At the same time, a comprehensive study of the design work on the development of a new type of camouflage clothing began.

Military experts point out that the problem with the form is not the only example of unwise use of funds in the American army. So, in 2003, the Pentagon spent $ 20 billion on the purchase of off-road vehicles for the operational parts of the marines. But it turned out to be impossible to send this equipment for participation in combat operations. The cars were without armor plates to protect the crew.

According to analysts, this situation is most likely due to the connections of the owners armory companies with army leadership. It is because of this that some tenders for the purchase of equipment for soldiers become a farce.
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  1. zart_arn
    zart_arn 17 October 2013 13: 00
    +9
    We are all human and mowing the same way - corruption, kickbacks, egg-headedness.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 17 October 2013 13: 03
      +5
      Or snickering, or as always sawing loot
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 17 October 2013 16: 13
        17
        Vadivak RU Today, 13:03 PM ↑ New
        Or snickering, or as always sawing loot.

        I agree, and one does not interfere with the other. Budget money-loot folk tyryat, and tyryat in a highly artistic style. It’s hard to dig in.
        a similar situation is most likely due to the ties of arms company owners with the army leadership.
        Article plus +.
        Let them try this one:
        Or this:
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 17 October 2013 13: 11
      10
      Quote: zart_arn
      We are all human and mowing the same way - corruption, kickbacks, egg-headedness.

      Yeah, only some of them call it a beautiful word "lobbying" and is presented as one of the attributes of "true" democracy, while others - corruption, about which the heralds of democracy shout to the whole world. And the essence is the same - stuffing pockets with money in a narrow circle of people.
      1. tun1313
        tun1313 17 October 2013 13: 13
        12
        Incidentally, lobbying is their official term and business, so they have no corruption :))
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 17 October 2013 18: 02
        +2
        and the name of all this disaster - CAPITALISM !!! soldier
        1. Joker
          Joker 17 October 2013 18: 58
          +1
          and the name of all this disaster - CAPITALISM !!!

          Yeah, we would have such a disaster in the amount of 15 GDP in trillion dollars and with salaries 10 times higher than ours laughing
          1. nikolaxp
            nikolaxp 17 October 2013 21: 58
            +1
            And with a debt of 16 trillion with a tail? no, we’ll figure it out ourselves
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 17 October 2013 13: 56
      +2
      "According to analysts, this situation is most likely due to the ties of the owners of the arms companies with the army leadership. It is because of this that some tenders for the purchase of equipment for soldiers are becoming a farce."

      Cap? laughing
    4. killganoff
      killganoff 17 October 2013 20: 37
      +1
      The scale of the "rationality" of the actions of the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense and the government of the country cannot be compared with our adversaries.
    5. goldfinger
      goldfinger 17 October 2013 23: 15
      0
      Quote: zart_arn
      We are all human and mowing the same way - corruption, kickbacks, egg-headedness.

      So, in 2003, the Pentagon spent $ 20 billion on the purchase of SUVs for the operational parts of the marine corps. But to send this equipment to participate in military operations was impossible. Cars were without armor plates to protect the crew.Cit.
      I usually do not give ratings. Well, I wrote, get along, survive.
      But it is not necessary to keep adults for fools who believe that stupid people live in the United States, and declare that combat off-road vehicles were made without armor plates! $ 20 billion !!! For this money, you can buy about 910 combat Hummers ($ 000 each). Maybe they also have plywood tanks! The rest is also difficult to imagine - "loudly creaking form"! Just think - the uniform creaks for the whole Afghan! This, in general, p ... c! They have a "military acceptance" - at the level of military representatives of the SA in the USSR! A bit in the know. The author does not need to listen a lot to the "anti-Americanist" Mikhail Zadorny, who is obsessed with this topic. Better give him your fantasies!
      Circus.
      1. SPLV
        SPLV 18 October 2013 12: 16
        0
        I beg your pardon, but as far as I remember, the indicated price of the Hummer car refers to the price of the basic configuration in 1984 (Foreign Military Review, 1986). Why mislead people?
        According to this logic, "The price of the planned purchase in 1936 ... of the Nagant revolver was 50 rubles", "The T-34 tank cost 1942 thousand rubles in 269,5", respectively, those who sell and buy weapons more expensive - to the wall!
        Sergei Mikhalkov wrote in a fable:
        We know there are more families
        Where are our cripples scolded
        And they look with emotion
        On foreign stickers.
        And fat - eat Russian!
  2. Altona
    Altona 17 October 2013 13: 03
    +2
    I wonder what is in shape wrong again? It seems like some kind of innovations constantly, for special operations there is even pink and light red-yellow camouflage for actions during dawn and sunset ... I remember that in our army tank, it completely burned out to the whiteness of Caspian sand ... One figs will be seen in the thermal imager a soldier ... By the way, the so-called hunting camouflage imitating reeds and trees is also complete rubbish, birds only see this one and birds have black and white contrasting vision ...
    1. Soyuz-TM
      Soyuz-TM 18 October 2013 12: 48
      0
      Camouflage is designed under the human eye. Unlike humans, birds have very extensive, circular vision. They see not only in front of themselves, but also from the sides, and partly - behind themselves. The eyes of the birds are located on the sides. The quality of vision in birds exceeds the visual acuity of humans by 4-5 times. And in birds of prey 8 times. Monocular vision in birds - the ability to clearly see the image of an object with one eye. In birds, color vision is shifted to the red region (see ascending air currents) and to the blue region of the spectrum (see ripeness of the fruit)
  3. tun1313
    tun1313 17 October 2013 13: 07
    +2
    Damn, but we only copied their camouflage, they are taking revenge on us for Greenpeace. "that in mountainous terrain the enemy quickly notices soldiers on the terrain because of the contrast of colors," but they don't want a green or black armor? Weaklings. Oh forgot, they've got a sequestor, and the ranches aren't finished yet.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 17 October 2013 19: 26
      +5
      Quote: tun1313
      Oh, I forgot, they have a sequester, and the ranches are not completed.

      Finished or unfinished, the new camouflage would definitely not hurt us. Here is this bucket, and even with a shoulder strap on his chest, there’s nowhere to go at all.
  4. Altona
    Altona 17 October 2013 13: 08
    +3
    This led to the selection of the well-known MultiCam form. At the same time, comprehensive studies of design work began on the development of a new type of camouflage uniforms.
    -------------------

    MultiCam is a kind of commercial camouflage, not army ... Like for hunters and huntsmen of all sorts ...
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 17 October 2013 13: 14
      +4
      He participated in the competition. In general, it is not clear how UCP could choose - in most cases, IMC wins MultiCam.
      1. tun1313
        tun1313 17 October 2013 13: 31
        +4
        And here, as some tenders are won, about the same.
        1. DmitriRazumov
          DmitriRazumov 17 October 2013 18: 26
          0
          Quote: tun1313
          And here, as some tenders are won, about the same.

          According to law enforcement agencies and relevant projects, everyone knows who will win what and when ... This has already become a good tradition. it is regulated by the invention of all kinds of licenses, admissions and the registration in the tender documentation of such specifications. only 1 supplier uniquely matches.
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 17 October 2013 14: 48
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      MultiCam is a kind of commercial camouflage, not army ... Like for hunters and huntsmen of all sorts ...

      the cartoons lost the tender, but it is still produced in large quantities, somewhere I read that it was being dragged by the nat. usa guard.
  5. Russ69
    Russ69 17 October 2013 13: 11
    +5
    Something in America, in recent times there have been many such scandalous stories.
    The other day, there were only two more. The new helicopters, like Chinook, turned out to be old parts. Initially, in the contract, although this was stipulated, but it turned out that there were more agreed and at the price of new ones. In total, 16 million. someone pocketed.
    And more: "The Pentagon is sending C-27J Spartan transport aircraft straight from the assembly line to the aerospace storage center, since there is no room for them in the Air Force, but it is impossible to stop purchasing them," foxnews.com reported on October 7, 2013.
    The planes were supposed to arrive at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, but instead, a dozen virtually new Italian-built aircraft were sent to the Aircraft Storage Center in Arizona, known as the "Bone Cemetery."


    http://www.arms-expo.ru/049051124051051052057052.html

    effective managers, the Pentagon also lacks ... smile
    1. Grenader
      Grenader 17 October 2013 13: 47
      +2
      How familiar it all is. The problems with form and technique are the same as we have. You can rejoice for the American "rake", scratching the bumps from Mistraleks and Yudashkin.
  6. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 17 October 2013 13: 17
    0
    Probably the local Zaitsev or whoever they saw there that the color of the form does not fit well with the color of the eyes and this is an urgent need to be redone.
  7. atalef
    atalef 17 October 2013 13: 19
    +4
    I don’t know, I really like their pixel camouflage and specially paid attention to many videos on how it looks and merges with the terrain. It seems very good to me, I’m not saying that there are 5 types of pixel camouflage (in my opinion) I certainly understand that Yudashkin is far away, but for me it’s very, very good
    1. DuraLexSedLex.
      DuraLexSedLex. 17 October 2013 14: 38
      +2
      Well, yes, in principle, the entire army wears the ACU (what’s in the picture) and the marines of this figure have 4 pieces and all have their own name)
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 17 October 2013 14: 51
        +2
        Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
        Well, yes, in principle, the entire army wears the ACU (what’s in the picture) and the marines of this figure have 4 pieces and all have their own name)

        they also have A-TACS ACUs in two colors AU and FG ...
        A-TACS AU Camo

        This is A-TACS FG Foliage Green


        http://www.a-tacs.com
    2. Altona
      Altona 18 October 2013 23: 52
      +1
      AT Digital and Marpat are designed for the blur effect of the fighter, so that the enemy has to aim at a shapeless cloud, without distinguishing between head and legs, roughly so to general ... read the full design of the fuselage or body ... Merging with the terrain is not part of the task of the figure ... There is Woodpat, the Georgians were dressed in it in the Ossetian war of 2008, this is such a forest figure ... But in general, for example, I like the olive, and Woodland ... By the way, they fought in Woodland and Iraq, the desert, and the soldier is wearing the "forest" ...
  8. HAM
    HAM 17 October 2013 13: 33
    +1
    Evidently Yudashkin also wetted the "beak" here.
  9. Syrdon
    Syrdon 17 October 2013 13: 34
    0
    Kickbacks, Kickbacks, AND ONCE AGAIN Kickbacks are NOT ONLY RUSSIAN KNOW-HOW. Their entire military budget is based on a rollback, and at the exit fighter raptors UG, Lightning UG, lump UG. They don’t produce tanks already, so what is left? Small arms, well, let's just say, are not fountains either.
    1. tun1313
      tun1313 17 October 2013 13: 36
      +1
      In principle, only they were able to crush the sex of the world with this UG, and with minimal losses. (raptor UG, Lightning UG excluded)
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 17 October 2013 15: 39
        +2
        The United States crushed "half of the world" under itself primarily by its economy, finance, by introducing its dollar as the world currency, and military power as applied to the world's first economy, which is capable of deploying such powerful armed forces at any time that no one else has for today it cannot be.
  10. major071
    major071 17 October 2013 13: 34
    12
    According to Iraqi war veterans, UCP fabric made a creak when it touched any item, which revealed the whereabouts of soldiers during a night raid.

    Iraq. Night. Two Mujahideen are sitting. One says: “Quiet, the Americans are coming!” -How do you know? You don’t have a night light. - And you listen: creak-creak-creak ...
    1. POCC
      POCC 17 October 2013 20: 58
      0
      laughing Boo ha ha drinks lol We also have a mess with this
  11. spirit
    spirit 17 October 2013 13: 34
    +2
    Serdyukov chtol sent to them for an internship? smile
  12. soldat1945
    soldat1945 17 October 2013 13: 50
    +3
    But we already have 500 types of uniforms and a chevron only has to be sewn on the backside, we have not gone far!
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 17 October 2013 14: 10
      +2
      soldat1945
      But we already have 500 kinds of shapes and chevron


      Yes, you definitely noticed it, only the quality of this form sewn mainly from cheap Chinese fabrics and accessories - leaves much to be desired - yes, and the Figure has outlived itself, in my opinion

      So people buy imported lumps, shoes, uniforms and so on for their hard-earned money - on Ebeyah, in the Survival Corps, Tactics, etc., etc. - because what they give in warehouses like the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB (better there) is practically not rush about

      It’s interesting, but those who order these feces they dressed themselves at least once, what do they give out? but denyushki and the price of these products will be worse than Western models, who naturally settle the difference? as they say 50 to 50

      Most of all people like it, multicam by crye precision - I’m nonsense, although there are no comrades for the taste and color



      here is a video comparison- A-TACS FG vs Multicam |
      1. capellan29
        capellan29 17 October 2013 14: 24
        +4
        no, no, no need to shout at a number. The figure is made taking into account the fact that in Russia it is indecent a lot of forests. And in the summer forest, she is much better than the cartoon, he himself has long noticed. The only and most important drawback, as already noted - our form fades very quickly. Cartoons are ideal for highlands, where, basically, Americans wander. Well, what am I explaining the obvious
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 17 October 2013 14: 32
          +3
          capellan29
          don't shout at a number


          Greetings. In terms of the number I expressed my opinion, my main claim is what it is sewn from and what accessories are used there, and this is cheap cheap China (mostly)

          Use sewing materials and accessories from well-known manufacturers when sewing, and people will not spit like that, not even in colors but in poor quality

          Look, the guys bought Gorka in Fusion (Gorka !!!) in the Caucasus, for 2 months in the trash and caresses, how is it?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 17 October 2013 14: 35
            +3
            Quote: Rustam
            Look, the guys bought Gorka in Fusion (Gorka !!!) in the Caucasus, for 2 months in the trash and caresses, how is it?

            Everything is being killed in the mountains. Even the Soviet super-quality roller coaster. The service life of a thing during a DB is 3 months.
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 17 October 2013 15: 00
            +2
            Quote: Rustam
            Look, the guys bought Gorka in Fusion (Gorka !!!) in the Caucasus, for 2 months in the trash and caresses, how is it?

            slide into flaps - it is necessary to try very hard ...
          3. sak1969
            sak1969 17 October 2013 19: 35
            +1
            Quote: Rustam
            Look, the guys bought Gorka in Fusion (Gorka !!!) in the Caucasus, for 2 months in the trash and caresses, how is it?

            What is a ripstop or tarpaulin alloy slide?
            Ripstop doesn't live long ...
        2. combat192
          combat192 17 October 2013 14: 32
          +4
          Cartoons are ideal for highlands, where, basically, Americans wander.

          Have we been fighting in the taiga since the 90's?
          1. tun1313
            tun1313 17 October 2013 17: 02
            +4
            If you lie in a green bush in a black body armor in a snowdrift, then not a single camouflage will help. Everything has its place
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 20 October 2013 22: 05
              0
              In-in! It is especially touching when our brave paratroopers flaunt in the winter in summer coat jackets.
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 20 October 2013 21: 58
        0
        And all this unconvincing movie was started for the sake of advertising cafes drinks
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 17 October 2013 14: 11
    +2
    We must conclude from the experience of the enemy ... less polymer materials ... creaking ... rustling. And the rejection of universalism !!!
  14. combat192
    combat192 17 October 2013 14: 16
    +3
    Honestly, I don’t understand at all why our MO rested on the "digital"!
    As far as I understand, "digital" works satisfactorily only against observation of such with the help of optical-electronic means (ie, at night). For some reason, everyone stubbornly forgot that the main means of observation are still conventional optical ones, including with the naked eye. When viewed visually at distances from hundreds of meters, digital coloring spots merge into one tone.
    I am convinced that the optimal coloring for field camouflage uniforms should be of the deforming type. Well, except for the form for special tasks. And certainly not all-weather.
    By the way, Israeli Jews do not use camouflage coloring at all. It is believed that in their natural conditions after a couple of tens of minutes of active action, any form becomes the same color.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 October 2013 14: 28
      +1
      Quote: combat192
      Honestly, I don’t understand at all why our MO rested on the "digital"!

      The stripes look great on it. The form should not dominate, should not break the silhouette, it should serve as a neutral background for bright beautiful pictures.
    2. shpuntik
      shpuntik 17 October 2013 17: 03
      +1
      combat192 SU Today, 14:16 New
      Honestly, I don’t understand at all why our MO rested on the "digital"!

      To confuse honest people want to muddy the water. They have one "number" in their minds since the days of "Pasha-Mercedes": http://asaratov.livejournal.com/4108845.html
  15. воронов
    воронов 17 October 2013 14: 19
    +2
    Amer Yudashkin designed the same form laughing
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 17 October 2013 14: 22
      +2
      ravens
      Amer Yudashkin designed the same form


      Yes, only the quality of this form is an order of magnitude higher than that squalor which stand out in warehouses and sold in stores such as alloy and so on
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 17 October 2013 15: 03
        +1
        Quote: Rustam
        Yes, only the quality of this form is much higher

        you can’t argue that - what, and they know how to sew a shape in the west, but about the Alloyov slide - it's for nothing, it’s very difficult to kill ...
  16. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 17 October 2013 14: 50
    0
    in 2003, the Pentagon spent $ 20 billion on the purchase of SUVs for the operational parts of the marine corps. ... Cars were without armor plates to protect the crew.

    It is not only Russia or Ukraine that suffers from piles and "tyap-blunders of work," It's just that it is not customary to advertise this in other places. By other places I mean the entire West, including super-Israel.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 17 October 2013 17: 40
      0
      It is not only Russia or Ukraine that suffers from piles and "tyap-blunders of work," It's just that it is not customary to advertise this in other places. By other places I mean the entire West, including super-Israel.

      Ignorance about the phenomenon does not mean that it does not exist. laughing
      You just do not read their press profile and ordinary.
      Scandals - constantly and in large numbers.
      Criticism is everything. Even on such topics, about which we discuss only at the General Staff, they are fighting in the profile press.
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  19. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 17 October 2013 15: 09
    +2
    Lip expression like ...
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 17 October 2013 15: 13
      0
      This is from the Related Photo Report
      "The garden in the White House is overgrown with weeds" ...
  20. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 17 October 2013 15: 17
    +2
    It’s interesting, but who said that this American uniform is sewn in the USA. Most likely it’s also China. In my opinion, the sewing shops in the states have been closed for quite some time.
    For example, lacoste shirts are all sewn in Southeast Asia, although they write that in France.
  21. skif33
    skif33 17 October 2013 15: 27
    +3
    So, in 2003, the Pentagon spent $ 20 billion on the purchase of SUVs for the operational parts of the marine corps.

    I think this nonsense is not worth reading !!!! Twenty billion !!!! _this seventy thousand units of hammers. The author urgently needs to heal, and no longer write articles.
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 18 October 2013 00: 36
      0
      Quote: skif33
      I think this nonsense is not worth reading !!!! Twenty billion !!!! These are seventy thousand units of hammers. The author urgently needs to heal, and no longer write articles.

      Not 70000 pcs! A 910 000 pcs. For 22000 dollars. And, most importantly, instead of armor - plywood! Well, you can’t take the hu ... howl out of the garbage-Internet! You need to look before launching to the site. And this material, even crazy about anti-Americanism Zadornov would not have been in a terrible dream!
  22. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 17 October 2013 16: 16
    +2
    Soon all armies will be running in MultiCam. The Germans and the French are still holding on. Oh, yes, and Ukraine in its terrible "oak".
  23. shpuntik
    shpuntik 17 October 2013 16: 33
    +3
    I want to draw parallels with the camouflage that the Lord created. Sha make camouflage to kill people, subjugate themselves to the entire planet-the leadership of Sha Satanists.



    http://zabort.ru/blog/animals/24192.html
    And I will bring a Christian prayer against the evil of Anglo-Saxon, otherwise we can’t withstand the Russians.
    Troparion. To the Cross of the Lord, voice 1 :.

    Save, Lord, Thy people, / and bless Thy inheritance, / victories of the Orthodox Christian / for resisting granting, / and Thy keep Your Cross by your cross.
    1. major071
      major071 17 October 2013 18: 47
      +4
      At my friend you poked! good
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 17 October 2013 21: 37
        +1
        Major General
        major071 (3) SU Today, 18:47 ↑ New
        At my friend you poked! good

        Oh, then! They will make a camouflage and get attached to us, don't go to the "grandma" fellow .
  24. Leader
    Leader 17 October 2013 16: 45
    +2
    Quote: shpuntik
    I want to draw parallels with the camouflage that the Lord created. Sha make camouflage to kill people, subjugate themselves to the entire planet-the leadership of Sha Satanists.
    And I will bring a Christian prayer against the evil of Anglo-Saxon, otherwise we can’t withstand the Russians. Troparion. To the Cross of the Lord, voice 1 :.

    P ... peps! Arrived! Already id ... oty tightened! We will fix everything by procession!
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 17 October 2013 17: 44
      0
      P ... peps! Arrived! Already id ... oty tightened! We will fix everything by procession!

      100500
      By the procession of the cross, led by the patriarch, president, Mikhalkov and all ministers, we will anathematize corrupt officials, ZOG and other enemies of the Orthodox clan laughing
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 17 October 2013 22: 01
        +1
        cdrt RU Today, 17:44 ↑ New
        By the procession of the cross, led by the patriarch, president, Mikhalkov and all ministers, we will anathematize corrupt officials, ZOG and other enemies of the Orthodox clan laughing

        If our patriarch acts as Patriarch Filaret in troubled times, then there will be what is needed.
    2. shpuntik
      shpuntik 17 October 2013 21: 48
      +1
      Leader SU Today, 16:45
      P ... peps! Arrived! Already id ... oty tightened! We will fix everything by procession!

      Do not rage against the church of Christ, this is bad. Are there other platforms for bringing people together?
  25. waisson
    waisson 17 October 2013 19: 06
    +1
    they are engaged in the development of uniforms professionals and we pi ...... sy modelers
  26. Achtaba1970
    Achtaba1970 17 October 2013 19: 08
    +1
    In the Astrakhan region, everything around us is green no more than 2 months a year. In the summer in the shade + 40, everything around is beige. Therefore, in "digital" in summer it is hot and visible at a glance.
  27. Cherdak
    Cherdak 17 October 2013 19: 08
    +1
    And for a long time I want to grab this toad coloring for fishing
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  28. Cherdak
    Cherdak 17 October 2013 19: 10
    +2
    In my opinion - just cool
  29. vagabo
    vagabo 17 October 2013 19: 40
    +1
    Quote: capellan29
    no, no, no need to shout at a number. The figure is made taking into account the fact that in Russia it is indecent a lot of forests. And in the summer forest, she is much better than the cartoon, he himself has long noticed. The only and most important drawback, as already noted - our form fades very quickly. Cartoons are ideal for highlands, where, basically, Americans wander. Well, what am I explaining the obvious


    I cannot agree with this statement. Cartoons, from which I have not crawled out for four years, is almost ideal in the forests of central Russia. Moreover, both in summer and in the "off-season". Even in winter, in principle, you can not shine too much in it (if not too new). I am writing this with undisguised regret, because the suck of our new figure is obvious. Hands must be torn off to the one who invented it. In the event of war, this "g" will lead to large losses. Why the Defense Ministry does not draw conclusions from the obvious, I cannot understand.
  30. Bayard_doc
    Bayard_doc 17 October 2013 20: 47
    0
    Quote: Altona
    MultiCam is a kind of commercial camouflage, not army ... Like for hunters and huntsmen of all sorts ...

    Yes, he really lost in the competition with ACU, but he is currently being used, for example, by "specialists" (US green berets) in Afghanistan. Why, our people also use it.
    In general, the United States fellows in terms of equipment and uniforms, maybe they steal, but the army is dressed and equipped as it should and change everything regularly. And innovations are created in the majority at the request of the military, and not in accordance with the plans for the construction of general dachas.
  31. Al Asad
    Al Asad 17 October 2013 22: 02
    0
    Multicam is really good
  32. ametist
    ametist 17 October 2013 22: 27
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    Is it really bad Surpat from the Moscow company SRW. Many special forces acquire it. http://www.srvv.org/
  33. phantom359
    phantom359 18 October 2013 23: 51
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    Prof1group (Ukraine) has a good lump of toad. In Russia, people are willing to buy SpN.