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Two Yegor, or What conclusions will not draw power from the popular revolt in Biryulyovo

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I never liked the poetry of the Silver Age, which, when compared with Golden, it would be better to call it "copper" or "bronze." And from the word "symbolism" in general it has turned back ever since, as in the senior classes of a school, a teacher of literature constantly forced us to look for these "symbols" (whether they were not right) in the verses of the same Blok or Annensky. Yes, and a jester with them, as they say!


But it was the word “symbol” that first came to my mind when I heard about the next murder of a Russian person by a completely alien man in Biryulyovo. After all, Sviridov, who was killed in 2010-m, and Shcherbakov, stabbed to death several days ago, was called Yegor. No, there are no “simple coincidences” in this world! Convinced throughout not the easiest of his life. Therefore, it is a sign. But rather, even a reminder. A reminder to all of us, the Russian people, about the misfortune that has long been surrounding us.

I, as a person who rarely turns on the TV, and on weekends trying to stay at the computer for a long time (I’ve got more than enough working days), learned about the people's rebellion in Biryulyovo. And the first thing that caught my eye was that even the central media did not call the Russian people, who had defended their own defense, “Nazis”, “xenophobes”, “extremists”, etc., “pleasant” words of non-Russian origin. It was a little surprised that even the authorities, whose “riot police” dogs shabbypled in the face from the inhabitants of the workers' outskirts, acknowledged that it was the People’s Congress that took place! True, there have been attempts to invent some “instigators-nationalists”, but the further Sunday is memorable, the fewer these attempts are.

And could it be otherwise! Indeed, unlike December 2010, when, for the most part, strong young guys came to Manezhka (although, in my deepest conviction, Manezhka is in its purest form a splash of popular anger, not “nationalist action”), in Biryulevo poured into the streets the entire population of the suburbs. Among the people who came to demand a response from the authorities were women and children. Well, how do you call the latter “Nazis” or write down into the ranks of “skinheads” (I’ll deliberately avoid the English word skinhead, because we are talking about Russians) ?! - Well, there was a certain former head of the “Movement Against Illegal Immigration” Alexander “Belov”, whose real name Potkin, although it has a Russian ending, does not sound like ours at all. Thank God, none of the “borzopistsev” was smart enough to attribute the gathering of the people to him. On the contrary, he came there only to be forgotten about him as “about the fighter for the rights of his people”.

In addition, some guys in December 2010-th who visited Manezhke, managed to participate in the quality of guests and in different programs. There they told that they were hiding people because they worked in public service or in good positions in private organizations. In Biryulyovo, almost everyone who went outside, for the most part, are simple hard workers. In short, it was the people who gathered, not “right-wing extremists.” The authorities made this conclusion correctly.

However, I am ready to beat my mortgage (and, God, how I want to be mistaken now!) That she, as always, either does not make any other conclusions, or does not want to do so. To begin with, those in power once again will not think about what makes a simple Russian person hate these ... How should I put it so softly that the rules of the site do not break? .. Foreigners, lo!

And really, what?

My acquaintance with "them"

As they say, starting from yourself. My acquaintance with foreigners can be called late. No, no, of course, even in my childhood I knew about the existence of Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Avars, Kumyks, Adygs, Chechens, etc. Especially since I found the USSR, where, as you know, there was “friendship of peoples Union of Labor”. By the way, without a shadow of ridicule. But in the northern city, where I grew up and at school, where I studied, there were no foreigners. Chilly for them in my little homeland. For all three parallel classes (and this is about 90 people), there is only one Tatar, who cannot be written down in foreigners (by putting a certain meaning in this word). Immediately make a reservation in advance - to the Tatars (except for the Crimean who committed outright betrayal to the Great Patriotic War) there are no complaints and cannot be.

For the first time I had a chance to get in touch with the “peculiarities of the character” of the inhabitants of the Caucasus and Central Asia only in the 17 years when I entered a military school. And then it all started. I admit honestly, one by one some of them behaved quite decently, but as soon as they gathered in a pack ... Namely, flocks of aliens kept themselves, especially in their own time.

I will not cover much here on the topic of the refusal of non-Russian cadets from hozrabot. I think everyone who has managed to wear a uniform knows about it firsthand. Well, how do you like that a good half of foreigners who came to the school with sergeant shoulder straps on their shoulders (and consequently, who occupied the posts of section commanders and castle enthrones), turned out to be shoulder straps? - Ie The mentioned "sergeants" never served in the army. I still remember what kind of laughter caused the inability of one of them to sew stitches to shoulder straps. Imagine, even sew on the tabs! ..

Laughter was short-lived. In particular, for the guys who got into the platoon in which this arrogant idiot was appointed deputy commander (I was lucky in this sense). His (and he scored six “eagles” in his platoon of men) this “sergeant” tried to never put on heavy clothes, and sent them to the “elders” for cleaning snow, dripping trenches and the like. In other words, the overseers of the Russian guys.

The most "fun" that happened all this in 1995-1996. - at the height of the 1 of the Chechen war. The question arises: for whom prepared such command personnel?

However, the school was not destined to turn me into a nationalist. Yes, the first acquaintance with the inhabitants of the mountains was not pleasant, but it did not inspire hatred in my soul. It was just a reason to think.

It so happened that a few years later, fate brought me to Moscow, where the donkey. I had to start from the bottom, and therefore the “interethnic relations” with the natives of the mountain villages and villages of Central Asia, willy-nilly, was forced to maintain.

Many of my compatriots love to say: “Every nation has enough of its rubbish. But there are good people everywhere. ” That's right, very correctly said in relation to Caucasians, "there are good people." Understand follows: "Sometimes they come across." But I know from my own experience: if you, the Russian, are engaged with some of the “bad” foreigners, and the “good” who know you (and with them you could sit at the table, work side by side) will not accept your side and the side of their own. This is because deceiving, robbing and even slaughtering a Russian for them is not at all a sin. And to achieve the favor of a Russian girl, or even to take her by force, in their concepts is considered almost dignity.

God pardoned me from their knives, and when it came to fists, pardoned me from loneliness. There was always someone else beside the Russian, and, as we know, the main rule of foreigners: "Seven Caucasians are not afraid of one Russian." That is, if there are at least two of us Russians, we can stand back-to-back, they will still think whether to attack at all.

I have no doubt that any Russian boy or girl who also often had to communicate with foreigners, the impressions are not very different from mine. Anyone who encountered the same Dagestanis, Chechens, Azeris, Kyrgyz or Tajiks, experienced their rudeness, arrogance and, at the same time, limitations and cowardice.

Then I recall the words of Putin, said shortly after the events at Manezhka. He argued that all the guys from the Caucasus who called the editor of a program said they were ready to die for Russia. Like, what kind of good fellows ... I agree with him, they are ready to die for Russia ... WITHOUT RUSSIANS !!!

And now let's ask ourselves and honestly answer ourselves. Is “our” power ready to understand us and take our side in this matter? - Yes, never. Therefore, she will not make one conclusion.

Does Moscow need "labor migrants"?

Yesterday I read the “revelations” of Peter Shkumatov in Gazeta.ru. Citizen Shkumatov proves that the Russians (and, above all, Muscovites) without the “dear guests” from Tajikistan-Kyrgyzstan will no longer be able to live carelessly (there will be no one to rent their apartments) and will drown in the mud.
This is where he, interestingly, found the "carefree Muscovites", I would like to ask? - On the ruble, probably ... As a person who lived in the provinces and in the capital, I know what I am saying, and I am ready to answer for my words: yes, in the capital, earnings are higher, but services are more expensive. And besides this, it’s not just fifteen minutes on foot or five minutes before work — on a bus, like in the provinces, but for a whole hour (and to someone — a half) And your happiness, if the metro with its crush is your only transport. And if we also take into account that the subway has been working at all lately, not like a clock, then some nerves and feelings from having time to work or be late are worth a lot!

Shkumatov writes that, allegedly, a third of the population of Moscow may not work, but live, renting apartments, from the grandparents left. Well, is it nonsense? - Where did he get such information ?! Yes, if a third of Muscovites could not afford to work, then there would be no such “traffic jams”, no crowding in the mornings and evenings in the subway. About this valiant defender of foreigners somehow did not think.

Well, and if anyone had an empty flat from her grandmother, then only the most desperate are ready to hand it in to people from the Caucasus or Central Asia. Shkumatov, in general, read the announcement of the delivery of apartments. Yes, in half of them it is written in black and white: “Not the Caucasus!” The question of Central Asia is not even raised.

Since these lines, for sure, will be read not only by residents of the capital, I will explain why. Imagine you have an apartment empty in the "Khrushchev". Well, lucky, as they say. Looking ahead, I warn you, the money (in general, rather big ones) from its surrender to life (especially if you are a family man) in Moscow is not enough for you. This is the only way - some support in case it becomes unbearable at work, you get sick, you never know what else. You decide to surrender it to the Uzbeks (they are the most peaceful of the Asians, at least). For a start, expect that in your one or two rooms, not two or three will move in, but ten people. When you stop donating, you can be sure that a major overhaul is required. Electricity and water (and in Moscow in almost all houses water consumption is paid by the meter), as you might guess, they will not save. And they can also flood the neighbors below. Reimburse losses, of course, you too. In short, do not believe Shkumatov, you will not allow the rented apartment to have breakfast in the Jean-Jacques restaurant (by the way, for more than 10 years in Moscow, I don’t know what kind of restaurant).

I will debunk his second statement that the Russians (and Muscovites for sure) will not go "to rake up the garbage or to knock out the check at the cash desk." Come on! That's just ... you don't have to pay 16 thousand in the first case and not 20 - in the second. So is it bad? In other words, with the departure of foreigners, the salaries of the Russian people will rise. The main thing is not to agree to go to those pennies for which the Tajiks (or Kirghiz) were ready to plow day and night. And the employer will not go anywhere - WILL PAY !!! And that he can pay, do not hesitate.

I already touched on this topic in my article “How I see Russia ready for war.” The employer must be taught, finally to the idea that, like any thing, good work is not cheap. And that cheap labor in Russia is IMPOSSIBLE by definition. At least because of our cold climate. If winter boots (capable of withstanding 1-2 winters) cost 5-6 thousand rubles in Moscow, and the rent is still 4-5, then the salary should be no less than 50. For, in addition to boots, a person must still buy at least a jacket and pants, and eating does not interfere with eating for a month.

Yes, here are two examples. The first. In 2010, for work, I had to communicate with the manager of the business center, who, unlike many of his own kind, did not hire either Tajiks, Kyrgyz or Caucasians. So, the Russian people (Muscovites!) Also worked as scavengers for him and received 40 000 rubles / month. We must assume that the same electricians and plumbers, i.e. skilled workers were getting more. But it was, I repeat, 2010, when prices and, accordingly, salaries were lower. Read! Read those who left angry reviews about my article "What I see Russia, ready for war", outraged by my offer to pay 50 thousand to loaders.

The second example. In the morning (after the Biryuli people's revolt) I went to the store near my house and was very surprised to see a non-Kyrgyz at the checkout, who had been sitting there for half a year and always alone at that time, and two Russian cashiers. Carefully asked them how long they would work and how much they would pay, and found out that, yes, this was their first shift, and they would pay 30 000. Whereas earlier in the store hung an advertisement that requires a cashier, and the salary promised 22 000.

The Jew Eidelstein expressed a very clever idea on this point (it is not clear how Zhirinovsky, who has stuck his first mother’s husband’s name to himself, whom he didn’t find in this world). He offered to get rid of “labor migrants” in three years.
We all understand that Eidelstein is not going to achieve this at all, he just found a convenient way to remind himself once again. But the thought itself is not bad.

In short, NO RUSSIA NEEDS, and even economically harmful. And the power will make the same conclusion? - I strongly doubt it. Rather, as before, will remain on the side of the bourgeois. The latter, as is known, the presence of foreigners in Russia provides fabulous profits (including at the expense of low wages).

Kurban bayram

Well, after that, in general, “the circus burned down, and the clowns fled.” On Sunday, October 13 2013, in Biryulyovo a riot caused by the killing of a Russian by a foreigner, and on Tuesday, October 15, in Moscow, as if nothing had happened, Kurban-bairam was celebrated.

At that time, the simplest and most reasonable step on the part of the authorities would be to ban this celebration. A whole Monday for this was! But no, the authorities chose to relieve the head of the Biryulevo Zapadnoye police department from their posts. For whom was this a lesson, except the police officer himself?

It's quite another thing to ban one of the most respected Muslim holidays (at least only this time, in 2013), explaining that this is the punishment, first of all, of the heads of foreigners' diasporas for not being able to keep wards in check.
Moreover, the conditions for such a decision were prepared. Already in the morning, representatives of many diasporas (not ordinary) have posted repentance messages in the media. Like, we understand everything, and do not even condemn the Russians, who have taken up the dubyu (still would have condemned!). Well, God himself ordered to make such a continuation: once you understand, you will receive a well-deserved punishment. And they, after these repentances (by the way, I believe that for the most part sincere) already had nothing to hide.

By the way, in some letters of repentance, representatives of diasporas themselves offered this kind of punishment. For example, the forced return of Asians who committed the slightest violations (far from crimes) back home, and the same thing with regard to Caucasians, despite the fact that the latter are citizens of Russia. In the event of violations, they were asked to close their departure from the limits of their national education (Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, etc.). Sin was not to take advantage of such a case!
But ... The power did not go to it, it didn’t even give a hint to scare. In general, she did not make any conclusion here initially.
I am silent about other possible conclusions, such as:
1) Refusal to call the same Caucasians to the army (at least in combat units, let alone if called up, so that the Dagestani had 1 Russian 10, so that no “I won't wash-sweep” and it wasn’t close, on the contrary break their "pride", which is really arrogance);
2) Try not to take them to military schools (and you can do it on a completely legal basis, just make you honestly pass the exam, well, they will not pass);
3) In no case do not take on the service in the Ministry of Internal Affairs (and they should not even dream of the FSB and SVR);
4) In relation to Asians - to prohibit buying land in Russia, housing, having their own business, in general, completely cut off the possibility of obtaining our citizenship.

But let's not abuse “antiscientific fiction”, as it did in its previous articles ... Power will not do it ...
And what about the Russian people? - And the people in the face of the inhabitants of Biryulyovo did the only right way. He himself rose to his defense. And will get up again and again. Well, what would you do if riot police and police appear only to disperse their own people? - When one 7-8 aliens are already kicking Russian on the ground, of course, there will not be a single policeman around ...
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 17 October 2013 09: 26
    +6
    I think the authorities are puzzled by the eternal Russian question: Who is to blame? and what to do?
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 17 October 2013 10: 12
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      the article is sharp, but I believe her. I myself came across with Caucasians and other Asians, I can confirm every word of the author. one by one is quite decent people, the two of them are already looking through the rot, and the three of them all the guards are changing before our eyes, they are watching with eagles, they are speaking impudently (the main thing is that they are very decent people, one at a time).
      they have knives and pistols with them - this is from fear, they are afraid of everything, and each of us.
      Germans in the Second World War were also afraid to go without weapons.
      I just disagree with one thing - why ban a holiday? prohibit blocking the street, cutting sheep in the courtyards, but not the holiday itself. I know a lot of good people - Tatars, Kazakhs - why should they be forbidden to celebrate their holiday?

      and power, in my opinion, except for the most rested, everyone already knows everything about power.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 11: 15
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        Quote: Starfish
        the article is sharp, but I believe her. I myself came across with Caucasians and other Asians, I can confirm every word of the author. one by one is quite decent people, the two of them are already looking through the rot, and the three of them all the guards are changing before our eyes, they are watching with eagles, they are speaking impudently (the main thing is that they are very decent people, one at a time).
        they have knives and pistols with them - this is from fear, they are afraid of everything, and each of us.
        Germans in the Second World War were also afraid to go without weapons.
        I just disagree with one thing - why ban a holiday? prohibit blocking the street, cutting sheep in the courtyards, but not the holiday itself. I know a lot of good people - Tatars, Kazakhs - why should they be forbidden to celebrate their holiday?

        and power, in my opinion, except for the most rested, everyone already knows everything about power.


        + You and + Article and the Author. All right. You need to call a spade a spade.
      2. domokl
        domokl 17 October 2013 11: 40
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        Quote: Starfish
        the article is sharp, but I believe her. he came across with Caucasians and other Asians

        I agree. It’s true for me, as a former student of the Higher School of Higher Education, it was a revelation that the school was in the order of a construction battalion. I would try someone now to skip this way ... But I studied before the author, so I will not argue.
        The authorities therefore stalled their actions after the murder of the fan, because he prefers to live by the principle of the Soviet brotherhood of peoples. Yes, and international relations are higher than his people. Remember the ultimatum of the President of Tajikistan, when the conversation went about restrictions ...
        Those who hold power will not succeed until their pockets are more important than the law. How many cases of the use of weapons by Caucasians in the same Moscow? Almost every week. And what? Their weapons are legal. Permissions - please, ID, yes no question . To meet not an armed Caucasian is now a problem, but an armed Russian ..
        It is now necessary to beat not so much Caucasians as officials who issue these permits, who turn a blind eye to outrages for bribes.
        I recall a terrifying article about the closure of Cherkizon ... Such a set of criminal articles, except in the Criminal Code you will not see .. What? None of the officials and security officials noticed this before closing?
        Crush the bribe takers to the fullest. And to make just one amendment to the Criminal Code, a crime committed by a public servant using his official position automatically entails criminal liability under wartime laws, and in case of causing economic damage, with complete confiscation of all property.
        1. soaring
          soaring 17 October 2013 12: 39
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          Yes, we will never be planting bureaucrats !!! Our bribe-takers write laws for themselves, darlings and untouchables .... It is necessary to rewrite the constitution anew and the Criminal Code too! Introduce another fad-revealed shit- let him reimburse everything and all his relatives to confiscate to put too !!!! Maybe some will think before dealing with cuts and bribes, but what will happen to parents and close relatives for his deeds !? And it's a pity, the tower was canceled! They plant potatoes for a bag, and they give conditionally for stolen billions ... One day it can and will bother ordinary people!
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 17 October 2013 20: 22
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            Quote: soaring
            Yes, they will never plant bureaucrats
            Are you motivated by NLP?

            The constitution must be rewritten
            And what you write in it-that the Russian Federation NOT welfare state that person NOT is the highest value - is it?

            For a bag of potatoes they plant, and for stolen billions they give
            This is a violation of the spirit and letter of the Constitution that you are about to rewrite.
        2. Normal
          Normal 17 October 2013 13: 50
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          Quote: domokl
          It is necessary to beat now not so much Caucasians as officials ....

          Quote: domokl
          Crush bribe takers to the fullest


          You need someone to argue. And now the titanic of appeals, good wishes and recipes for solving the problem of corruption and illegal emigration is faced with an iceberg called "HOW?" .... and is drowning under bravura marches.
          HOW to crush bribe takers? HOW to force officials to comply with the law? HOW to force the power structures to work?
          1. Gordeich
            Gordeich 17 October 2013 17: 48
            +8
            Quote: Normal
            HOW to crush bribe takers? HOW to force officials to comply with the law? HOW to force the power structures to work?

            Only by Stalinist methods. The main "iceberg" is Putin and his entourage. If there were such a person in Putin's place as at least Lukashenka, everything would be the way (damn it would be)
            1. Uhe
              Uhe 19 October 2013 01: 46
              +2
              The main one is Chubais, and Putin's comrades are standing under him. Through Chubais, there is governing the country from abroad, it is he who is the transmission link between the two main world clans in sight (there are hidden ones) - the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Well, the so-called. the president is just wage earners. Kvachkov said everything correctly.

              Will the same Lukashenko be able to act independently? Only with the support of the people. The people will support him, but in Russia a huge 5th column has been brought up, a civil war will ensue, NATO troops will be introduced - in general, the worsened scenario of the 18th year ... I think he himself understands this, so he will not want to go into such a disastrous business . One can only hope for the wisdom of our egregor :)))
          2. Aydar
            Aydar 17 October 2013 18: 00
            +4
            First you don’t need to be silent, and there Stalin will appear.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 17 October 2013 20: 25
              +9
              Quote: Aydar
              First you don’t need to be silent, and there Stalin will appear.
              1. timer
                timer 17 October 2013 22: 06
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                What the author wanted to say with his article is that we all already know and are confronted in everyday life. I have already read such articles up to the throat! And what next, besides idle talk, for a national leader to appear, at least similar to Stalin in essence, for starters, I propose to unite in a political club and start correspondence! Who wants to start acting, write to me at [email protected]
                I myself am Tatar by nationality, I live in Kazan, but I am most resolutely opposed to the migrant infection.
            2. Uhe
              Uhe 19 October 2013 01: 48
              +2
              Stalin did not just come out of nowhere. His Bolshevik Party brought up - the Bolshevik Party and Russian culture. If we still have some kind of culture, then the party is a disaster.
          3. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 17 October 2013 22: 18
            +8
            Quote: Normal
            HOW to crush bribe takers? HOW to force officials to comply with the law? HOW to force the power structures to work?

            Pogroms on the periphery, starting with the events in the provincial town of Kondopoga, were not heard by the authorities. Biryulevo - the outskirts of Moscow.
            It seems to me that when the next pogrom sweeps (by accident) along Rublevka, or even Novo-Rizhsky, and the OMON is "late" due to traffic jams (it happens ...), then, probably, someone will remember that the salary of an official (Shuvalov ) must be earned, not received on the day of appearance at the workplace.
            After all, everything was perfectly visible when one majorishka, without any hesitation, on the day of his birth, threw on a tunic, grabbed the "greased" trunk from the safe, and went to "celebrate the birthday".
            The disease must be treated, and not powder its symptoms, do not varnish the diagnosis.
            1. varov14
              varov14 20 October 2013 14: 19
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              "HOW to crush bribe-takers? HOW to force officials to comply with the law?" --- Purpose, reconnaissance, method of influence - in war as in war.
        3. Realist58
          Realist58 17 October 2013 20: 05
          +3
          This is not necessary. To reduce corruption to the lowest possible level, it is enough to observe two principles inevitability and adequacy of punishment.
          For inevitability, a regular polygraph test of civil servants should be organized to identify potential violations and start an investigation of all activities of an official by a special team of investigators from the "OBKhSS".
          When detecting and proving a crime, the punishment should consist of - LIFE-free ban on ANY posts (up to the janitor) in state municipal structures, and organizations of all forms of ownership with state-municipal participation, AND mandatory compensation for ALL damage caused, up to damage to the image of the state.
          Damage should be compensated both by own property and property acquired by dummies.
          If the amounts are insufficient, compulsory work with the payment of the majority of the amount to the victim. In case of refusal to perform work and production of payments, FORCED WORK in custody.

          Everything is as simple as two and two, and as old as Arkaim.
          1. AlexW
            AlexW 18 October 2013 03: 29
            +4
            WHO?? All this will do .. "regularly check on a polygraph, prohibit, seek compensation, etc. and so on ...." The current government? Are officials going to check themselves?
            Well, they caught the prosecutors "hot" -covering the criminal casino business, so what? "Where is the landing?" It turned out to be just a redistribution of places at the trough. The casinos were as they were. "Effective manager" Serdyukov -Taburetkin, if he hadn't flown in with a woman, hadn't made his father-in-law angry, and then would have ruined the army. Billions were plundered in the Moscow region, and a polygraph is not needed !!! - where is the landing ?? Where is the compensation for damage ?? With the stolen millions, it is not that they do not need the positions and the country "this" ..... Officials are not afraid of each other - "a crow will not peck out a crow's eyes." They are dangerous for a simple person, not only asking questions but also starting to act, demanding to comply with the laws. They will quickly jail him - Kvarchkov with the "eighteenth" attempt, but still hid him.
          2. Prisoner
            Prisoner 19 October 2013 02: 27
            0
            special team of investigators "OBKHSS"
            There are no guarantees that the special team will not enrich themselves in bribes from their own detainees. And so yes, I agree with everything else!
        4. don.kryyuger
          don.kryyuger 19 October 2013 15: 34
          +1
          You are the main

          You said correctly, Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov from Kazakhstan cannot obtain citizenship of the Russian Federation, and some kind of Mamed-oglu becomes a citizen within a month
          Russia.
          1. randomizer
            randomizer 20 October 2013 13: 14
            +1
            Well, these simple ones do not become. Illegals and throw out of Russia in three seconds. But whoever holds the cafe above is all citizens. I work in this area, I have come across more than once. So what is the power to want and there will be no one. Units will remain and will be forced to assimilate. The problem resolves by itself.
      3. Uncle
        Uncle 17 October 2013 21: 33
        +3
        Quote: Starfish
        I disagree with one thing only - why ban the holiday?

        This is Moscow, this is the capital of the Christian state. Here the bells of the church should ring for a holiday, and not shout the muezzin from the minaret.
      4. hoooligan
        hoooligan 21 October 2013 17: 52
        0
        Totally agree!
      5. Luger
        Luger 22 October 2013 08: 25
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        Quote: "... I myself came across Caucasians and other Asians, I can confirm every word of the author." The author of the commentary why did you smoke before writing? Or were they not taught normally at school? with what fright Caucasians became Asians? Because of people like you, ignorant, hardworking Asians, INSTEAD of Caucasians, they are allowed to mix.
    2. kris
      kris 17 October 2013 10: 17
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      Quote: Igor39
      I think the authorities are puzzled by the eternal Russian question: Who is to blame? and what to do?

      are mistaken.
      she has two questions:
      How to cut a budget?
      Where to spend the stolen money?
      1. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 17 October 2013 10: 58
        +6
        are mistaken.
        she has two questions:
        How to cut a budget?
        Where to spend the stolen money?

        No, just one: "How to cut the budget?"
      2. Petrol
        Petrol 17 October 2013 12: 11
        +9
        if your power is not Russian ... then what kind of issue are we talking about ???
        1. Rider
          Rider 17 October 2013 12: 55
          11
          Quote: Benzin
          if your power is not Russian ... then what


          did you have a "Ukrainian" power that helped you a lot?
          1. Petrol
            Petrol 21 October 2013 11: 53
            0
            we have alien power (like you)
        2. Borz
          Borz 17 October 2013 15: 42
          15
          In the city where I live, at the bazaar, rhinos chase old women who have come out to sell vegetables grown by them. They weigh and deceive pensioners (and not only), and the caught shrieks shrilly: "Would you like it, "And NO ONE, NO ONE will put them in their place. On August 8, every year in my city the Georgians arrange a bacchanalia: a column of cars, with headlights on, continuously honking and waving They flutter about the streets with GEORGIAN flags. This is how they “celebrate their victory.” Fists clench their fists from impotence and insult.
          So what is our power in Ukraine?
    3. samoletil18
      samoletil18 17 October 2013 11: 20
      +3
      Quote: Igor39
      I think the authorities are puzzled by the eternal Russian question: Who is to blame? and what to do?


      The authorities are puzzled by the question: how to hush and calm.

      It is better to be puzzled by the question: What size of contributions to the pension fund from migrants do?
    4. honest jew
      honest jew 17 October 2013 16: 02
      +1
      Everything is very simple. Gebnya started a war for the redivision of Moscow property! Since oil, gas, gold, metals are already divided and belong to serious uncles abroad (London, Switzerland, America, Israel), it remains to look for other sources of income. These sources are food supplies and construction in Russia !!! Since For 90 years, they were controlled by the Azerbaijani, Georgian, Armenian, Chechen (remember Chechen memos!), The Dagestan mafia, but not the Russian one (the Russian national mafia never existed at all), so the main income went into the pocket of these diasporas, and of course, Luzhkov’s protege and company. How to pick up this business, because everything is clean on paper? To begin with, we remove the protege! The removal of Luzhkov from the post of mayor of Moscow and his criminal prosecution as his wife. Then we kill Ded Hasan (the work of Gebni), so that criminal diasporas from the Caucasus understand who they are dealing with. Well, and finally, the national trump card is raging, the murder of Russians by Caucasians !!! All the hands of Raziazani for actions, searches, arrests, bases are idle, construction sites are standing, the owners suffer losses and, most importantly, a lot of problems !!! And why do we need problems in Moscow, so the markets are sold to new owners, and the old owners will move to a smaller town, where there are fewer problems! And the wolves are fed and the sheep (Russians) are happy, as Caucasians were punished in any way !! But in reality, nothing has changed, only the owners are new (Committee Gebnya), and illegal immigrants, as they worked at construction sites and vegetable depots, will continue to work! If there was a real struggle, then they would introduce visas with Central Asia and the Caucasian countries. By the way, why do not they conduct checks in Sochi, where tens of thousands of illegal immigrants work at construction sites ???
      1. randomizer
        randomizer 20 October 2013 13: 24
        +1
        You somehow absolutely mercilessly brought down your stream of consciousness on us. Let me guess - you are 14 years old and you decided to play the great analyst?
    5. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 17 October 2013 16: 57
      +3
      I made the following conclusions. Just that I was standing at the bus stop. Nearby is a black one, with a friend. When I made a "remark" - to the station with black music. The answer was, I went out, I was on my street. I went mad and said that - this is my city and this is my street. On what was the answer, went out, nationalistic. Baba, did not hit. Biryulevo did not work for the future. That's how they are afraid.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 17 October 2013 22: 24
        +5
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        Baba, did not hit. Biryulyovo didn’t go for good. That's what they are afraid of.

        Women, yes, you can’t beat.
        But events are progressing.
        And although, as they are basking, they beat in the face, and not according to the passport, still ahead ...
      2. stroporez
        stroporez 18 October 2013 08: 02
        +4
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        .Biryulevo for the future did not go

        what good ??? what are you ????
        "" If the attacks on Azerbaijanis in Russia do not stop, then adequate measures will be taken against the Russians living in Azerbaijan. This statement was sent to the Russian Embassy in Baku on October 17 by the "Organization for the Liberation of Karabakh" (KLO) in connection with the detention of Azerbaijani citizen Orkhan Zeynalov, suspected of murdering Yegor Shcherbakov in Moscow Biryulyovo. "
        1. randomizer
          randomizer 20 October 2013 13: 31
          +1
          Cool. Those. Russians abroad of some kind of outpost of the empire, as they like to blow power, turn into hostages? Nude - nude, and we will pull up to protect our troops. As then?
      3. randomizer
        randomizer 20 October 2013 13: 28
        +2
        Yes, they won’t take to work and will leave for themselves - to produce savages near the canal. They will not be able to adapt anywhere. Why they take them to work - cheaply, they can be easily deceived and go in droves, they ask for work.
    6. starshina78
      starshina78 17 October 2013 19: 01
      +4
      By reporting on TV, the authorities answered the questions: who is to blame and what to do, and, alas, the answers to these questions are not what the whole of Russia wants to hear. The nationalists are to blame, but what has to be done is to fight extremism, and this implies the fight against the Nazis and all those who take to the streets against the migrant lawlessness, that is, with us. The authorities think that this will help, which I very much doubt. When "Biryulyov" events begin in one, another, and third place in Russia, it is unlikely that all these events can be called nationalistic.
    7. vjhbc
      vjhbc 17 October 2013 21: 36
      +6
      Yes, it’s not what she’s not puzzled for; she has long known the Russians to blame and knows what to do to reduce the number of these Russians
      Quote: Igor39
      I think the authorities are puzzled by the eternal Russian question: Who is to blame? and what to do?
    8. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 18 October 2013 10: 18
      0
      I want to remind you gentlemen that since 1917, the ode, internationalism, was obligatory only for the Russian people, while the Bolsheviks brought up foreigners in the "national spirit" that only "national republics"
      1. cumastra1
        cumastra1 20 October 2013 10: 44
        0
        all bosses are afraid like the fire of Russian chauvinism, point blank without noticing the fascists who consider themselves supermenshi. Russians are our slaves. Here is their motto. They live at our expense, do not blow into the mustache. And even a little something - the power is on their defense. So who is in power with us? question however.
  2. Alez
    Alez 17 October 2013 09: 30
    58
    At one time (90-s) studied in the school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, on the 2 course while watching a video in the hall, there was a conflict with Kurnos. In general, when the fight began, all the snub-nosed people jumped up and rushed to the aid of their hairy brother. Whoever of the Slavs got up and got the grip for me? Everyone sat with tails between their legs. It is not only in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it is in the army, it is everywhere in everyday life. We allow them to be impudent.
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 17 October 2013 09: 56
      27
      In 1990 in 17 years I came to study in Kazan, then a very turbulent city. Settled in the beginning in a hostel with three Arabs from Yemen, a couple of months later, the Arabs gave money to someone to resettle me Russian from them. Then, because of something, I just had a conflict with the pre-trade union committee, and they put me in a room for senior students: a Dagestan and two Chechens. Then he lived in a room with Azerbaijanis. No one ever tried to spread rot on me, perhaps because he immediately set himself up with them as an equal with equals. Once I had to fight hard with a guy drunk in smoke after Afghanistan. Of course, he marked me, but the next morning he himself came to put up, said if you should contact me.
      We do not care to live together. They should be put in place, but in no case should anyone humiliate and not humiliate themselves.
      1. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 18 October 2013 11: 59
        +3
        were able to speak with the most adequate of them through the open glass in the car. He presented the case to his comrades so we wanted to rob him and took away his jacket with money under Nazi slogans. After the use of force against us failed, there was a statement to the police. The good investigator gathered for my interrogations a bunch of spectators of his fellow tribesmen who joked at me and sometimes physically crushed me in front of the entire department. despite the fact that the investigator did not hide the fact that this case was ostentatious to him for the "others" .. my testimony was "ridiculed" in short, they sewed two articles "robbery and international affairs" .. endured a bunch of humiliations from our cops, got rid of the articles .. lucky jumped off .. NOW I will think a hundred times before I stand up on the street for strangers .. and the Ossetian went home leaving three pregnant women in our area ..
    2. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 17 October 2013 10: 28
      +9
      Whoever of the Slavs got up and got a hold of me? Everyone sat with their tails tucked in.

      Very bitter. So protection from these can not wait ... How can we, the Slavs? ...
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      2. Goodmen
        Goodmen 17 October 2013 12: 01
        19
        Different Slavs are !!! And there are different situations !!!
        And you Slavs - look for a normal Slav. The main thing is not to turn into "inkwells" !!!
        And at a good time, the Slavs have long been fond of martial arts, shooting ...
        time is so turbulent and in the near period of calm it will obviously not be added ... it will be worse ... and not always, God forbid, there will be protection nearby.
        I do not urge to build muscle and become a mixture of Robocop with Chuck Norris))))
        At a minimum, it’s easy to get self-defense skills worked out to automatism + the effect of surprise resistance. If you do not remove the scalp, then at least enter into a stupor for the time that is enough to run away!))))
        1. Goodmen
          Goodmen 17 October 2013 16: 02
          +6
          opt ... someone minus ... it's for the "inkwell" probably ... I didn't like it, bd ...))))))))
          but in another they are not called ...)))))
        2. Kahlan amnell
          Kahlan amnell 18 October 2013 07: 36
          +3
          And you Slavs - look for a normal Slav. The main thing is not to turn into "inkwells" !!!

          In no case! I myself treat such people as those lost for our people, and so my daughter brought up.
          If someone puts a minus for my position in life - this is his misfortune ... I can only regret the undergrowth.
    3. domokl
      domokl 17 October 2013 11: 53
      25
      Quote: Alez
      . We allow them to become impudent.

      Here are .. golden words. Well, I’ll also remember one wonderful way to stop ethnic conflicts ... It was also in the middle of the 90's. My colleagues and I met in a country tavern. It was all the type of top, but only until then mountain eagles arrived in several cars (but not from those who fly over the mountains, but from those who have these same mountains ... t) a form of lawlessness began. The tables were pulled into a heap, they scream, the girls are lifted up .. In short, the meeting was covered.
      While one of ours, the underground with a bunch of trips to the caravans, didn’t get enough to calm down ... I don’t know where the knives came from, but after 5 seconds several bodies were moving towards us ...
      The result was generally predictable. Two blows (despite the fact that the rest of us just sat and looked, interesting all the same), two meats on the floor with streams of blood from all the holes on our heads and ... Sorry, dear, I recognized ... happens. They calmed down on the move, got on the car and left.
      But we had to do the same thing, simply because we knew that in an hour or two they would come with two or two pistols and things might end not so well. And the same situation, none of the Russians even came up to help ... Shut up languages in one place and concentratedly ate their barbecue ...
    4. andrejwz
      andrejwz 17 October 2013 12: 41
      +6
      Quote: Alez
      At one time (90-s) studied in the school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, on the 2 course while watching a video in the hall, there was a conflict with Kurnos. In general, when the fight began, all the snub-nosed people jumped up and rushed to the aid of their hairy brother. Whoever of the Slavs got up and got the grip for me? Everyone sat with tails between their legs. It is not only in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it is in the army, it is everywhere in everyday life. We allow them to be impudent.

      In the 90-s, he also studied at the school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (Minsk) and would try, as you call, a snub-nosed just to be not polite.
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 17 October 2013 16: 36
        +1
        Quote: andrejwz
        at the school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (Minsk)

        So you don’t spoil Batka’s life now. They’re like black people and they don’t take to work
    5. Manager
      Manager 17 October 2013 13: 26
      +1
      Quote: Alez
      We allow them to become impudent.

      Such cowards need to drive yourself! Or re-educate.
    6. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 18 October 2013 11: 40
      0
      In 2006, one Ossetian "clung" to the girl of my now deceased friend in a cafe, remarks that the girl was busy did not have the desired effect. Moreover, in response there was the phrase "that I argued with my comrades to say that I would invite her to dance" well, the fun is such a national ... decided to take a walk, turning around on the way back, noticed again the early citizens already familiar to us in the cafe ... well, what could I do ... went out and kicked him in the horns ... although he was three times larger than me ... started an unequal battle which ended with his precise blow my friend, whose girlfriend was .. the insolent guest threw his jacket and retreated shouting "you ... dec" .. I didn't immediately understand why he threw the jacket .. after 15 minutes we were blocked by 50 of his companions, we were lucky and we got out lossless and even
  3. Lapotnik
    Lapotnik 17 October 2013 09: 39
    19
    It became interesting to me - a riot in the capital, measures in the capital too. Who needs to be killed in other cities? Will people go to a simple gathering in St. Petersburg (I live here), Voronezh, Khabarovsk, etc., etc. ??

    So the right conclusion is that the authorities will not essentially do anything.

    Yesterday I watched the speech of the Sobyanin. It turns out a lot of illegal immigrants. It turns out a bunch of nurseries everywhere. Tough measures will be taken ...

    The question is - and before that, I wasn’t ????
    They will work on verbiage again to relieve tension, they will remove a couple of three posts, under the guise the markets will change hands, and that’s all in the capital’s campaign.

    And yes, well, they’ll send a couple of thousands of illegal immigrants and live peacefully.

    PS "Liked" how policemen and FMS and other arrows threw at each other. Geeks.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 17 October 2013 10: 09
      -34 qualifying.
      All good things get clogged up quickly - this is a feature of Russian Natsiks !!


      1. Arberes
        Arberes 17 October 2013 10: 41
        10
        Quote: Yarbay
        All good things get clogged up quickly - this is a feature of Russian Natsiks !!

        Maybe it is so? But I remember all the bad for a very long time-maybe so to speak!
        Hello dear Yarbay (5) hi
      2. Forest
        Forest 17 October 2013 11: 02
        19
        Yes, he was irretrievably lost in the long list of drug traffickers and bandits of Azerbaijani ....... nationality.
      3. Revolver
        Revolver 17 October 2013 11: 04
        16
        Quote: Yarbay
        All good things get clogged up quickly - this is a feature of Russian Natsiks !!
        In your opinion, if Russian is sure to Natsik?
        All peoples have their own scum, and among the Russians too, but noticeably less than among the same Latinos, or say blacks sorry, African Americans. And whose cow would mumble, and yours would rather be silent, first deal with your Islamists before blaming anyone for anything.
        1. Evrepid
          Evrepid 17 October 2013 17: 06
          0
          I also thought that the Russians are not nationalists, until I often started to be in Moscow.
          I was convinced in my own skin that I was shouting Russian at the eyes of cops, I had to hang!

          So it’s better not to moo your cow!
        2. Essenger
          Essenger 17 October 2013 21: 14
          -11 qualifying.
          Quote: Nagan
          and yours would be better silent, first deal with your Islamists before blaming anyone for anything.

          From you carries Islamophobia
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 17 October 2013 21: 43
            +6
            Quote: Essenger
            From you carries Islamophobia

            Do you think that there is no reason for "Islamophobia"?
            1. Essenger
              Essenger 18 October 2013 07: 59
              -6
              Uncle
              No, but what do you think is?
      4. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 17 October 2013 11: 23
        +3
        The exception that confirms the rule.
      5. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 11: 25
        16
        Quote: Yarbay
        All good things get clogged up quickly - this is a feature of Russian Natsiks !!

        hi Greetings. There are very few cases like the ones shown in this video, and you remember them well and present them at every opportunity. But what about Yegor and other similar cases? Will you justify the murderer of an Azerbaijani? What about Kondopoga? Pugachev? Sagra? Or is it better to forget about these cases, because there we immediately become Russian "Nazis" for you?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 17 October 2013 18: 00
          -24 qualifying.
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          it's better to forget about these cases, because there we immediately become Russian "Nazis" for you?
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 17 October 2013 20: 31
            17
            Quote: Yarbay
            1. INVESTOR
              INVESTOR 19 October 2013 10: 02
              +1
              What comforts us a bit is how we paid off our debts in the second company, many friends of the guys who told us such stories .. but still it seems to me a little .. and most importantly, the facts that you brought should not be hushed up, we should study in high school ..
          2. Essenger
            Essenger 17 October 2013 21: 15
            +2
            Yarbay, there are not enough Jews in this picture laughing
            1. volkodav
              volkodav 19 October 2013 17: 07
              0
              I look at you with bitten bees, this picture is amusing, in vain they didn’t give Lemon in northern Kazakhstan
      6. domokl
        domokl 17 October 2013 12: 00
        +1
        Quote: Yarbay
        All good things get clogged up quickly - this is a feature of Russian Natsiks !!

        Not so ... A black sheep spoils the whole herd ... That's what they say.
        1. Goodmen
          Goodmen 17 October 2013 12: 30
          37
          something a bit too much "black sheep" in one herd ... or breeders got it wrong, or are they mostly delivering us to lousy ... Or am I wrong?
          Mantra on the subject of the fact that in any nation there are good people and bad - already tired. It is clear to all. I have no complaints about teachers, doctors, representatives of other professions. For creators no complaints. But there is an ethnic organized criminal group, traffickers, bombilam, builders, janitors and idlers "without whom Russia well, as it can not survive in such difficult economic conditions" !!!!!!
          I ignite nothing, I look around "taking off my rose-colored glasses" ...
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 17 October 2013 20: 53
            +1
            no, laborers at a construction site are always needed, without them anywhere
          2. Uncle
            Uncle 17 October 2013 21: 48
            +7
            Quote: Goodmen
            "Without which Russia can’t survive in such difficult economic conditions"!

            And this is a claim to those in power in Russia. Why do not Ukrainians, Belarusians, Serbs go at last? Namely Asians, precisely Gentiles? I think the ground is being prepared for religious and interethnic conflicts.
            1. Evrepid
              Evrepid 23 October 2013 13: 59
              0
              And why go to where they are called: Migrant workers or a limit or come in !?
              As if this is another country and they are not citizens of this country!
          3. volkodav
            volkodav 19 October 2013 17: 09
            0
            eb ... t each other, degenerate, look only at their faces, each on the forehead print-INTELLIGENCE NO! ELECTRONICALLY TESTED
        2. Borz
          Borz 17 October 2013 15: 56
          14
          What black sheep, dear?! I have already given an example (figuratively) in one of the previous posts:
          You, a hospitable and tolerant landlord, live quietly and peacefully with your family in a comfortable apartment. Suddenly a tramp breaks into you from the street, beats you, rapes your wife, yanks you to the last word, and then, mocking, demands to apologize to him (knowing that the police for some reason by his side).
          Question: Where after this should your tolerance and hospitality go and don’t you see the connection between the example I have cited and today's reality? Have migrants from the Caucasus and Asia broken into our house?
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 17 October 2013 20: 56
            +3
            And what is the norm. A man will sit and wait until his wife is worn out. If only tolerant
          2. alone
            alone 18 October 2013 00: 21
            +1
            Sorry, of course, but if a tramp broke into the house and in front of the husband’s eyes he rapes his wife and he is silent in a rag, tomorrow his neighbor will do the same already. Your example is somehow out of place here.
          3. Evrepid
            Evrepid 22 October 2013 14: 57
            -1
            do not look like screaming:

            "Moscow for Muscovites" and "Russia for Russians" on good masters, and who said they were masters?
      7. Evrepid
        Evrepid 17 October 2013 17: 03
        -6
        At 100% to the point.
        This does not fit into the harmonious scheme of the Caucasians bad.
        1. Evrepid
          Evrepid 18 October 2013 14: 23
          -1
          Two days ago, in Moscow, someone stabbed a citizen of Uzbekistan with a knife in the chest.
          The Uzbek has passed away.

          Caucasians again? :)
          1. Evrepid
            Evrepid 22 October 2013 14: 38
            0
            Ha ... Don't like it? So all the same, Caucasians!
            Here they are, what even Uzbeks of the co-religionists will not see!

            Is it weak to subscribe? Hero?
    2. Starfish
      Starfish 17 October 2013 10: 19
      23
      indeed, it seems that Sobyanin himself recently reported on the conduct of sweeps of all markets and other places of illegal immigrants, after an attack on a policeman. and now, after cleansing it, poor Vietnamese people (anyone heard that Vietnamese dance lezginka on Red Square, shoot in the streets, slaughter Russians, rape Russian women?) turns out to be a bunch of hotbeds in Moscow. again the Vietnamese take the rap ...
    3. domokl
      domokl 17 October 2013 11: 59
      10
      Quote: Lapotnik
      It became interesting to me - a riot in the capital, measures in the capital too. Who needs to be killed in other cities?

      It seems to me that the whole point is that it is in the capital that the diasporas are the most powerful in quantitative and monetary terms.
      The author correctly noted that when snub-nosed one by one, they are quite normal people and behave normally. In other cities there are no such diasporas.
      True, there is a second option - small cities. Where a hundred thugs could very well create an atmosphere close to war. But there is a corresponding rebuff, they get it with blood. It's easier for men, and even bolder than in capitals.
      1. Goodmen
        Goodmen 17 October 2013 12: 39
        +8
        ".... But there is a corresponding rebuff, they get it with blood ...." Unfortunately, not everywhere and not always.
        And the fact that Moscow is more powerful than the diaspora - I agree.
        But gradually fixed with all the consequences in other regions of the Russian Federation. Insolently, as they used to.
  4. avt
    avt 17 October 2013 09: 40
    22
    The article is correct. There is nothing special to add. Well, if only the fact that ethnic crime at once buys ready-to-buy bureaucrats in uniform and without. And now they are already buying their seats, since there are more than enough "graduates of universities" such as the Maimonides Academy.
    1. Vladimir.z.
      Vladimir.z. 17 October 2013 10: 31
      12
      Quote: avt
      The article is correct. ......


      Power is a swamp - so that and wherever it happens, that the Saratov Pugachev, that St. Petersburg, that the Moscow Biryulyovo - the power makes squishy sounds like that, and that's it, trying to pretend like in that song "everything is fine, beautiful marquise, everything is fine ..." And not only smokes everywhere, but also fires appear more and more often ...
    2. domokl
      domokl 17 October 2013 12: 07
      +7
      Quote: avt
      .Well, if only the fact that ethnic crime at times buys ready-to-buy bureaucrats in uniform and without. And now they are already buying their places, fortunately, there are more than enough "university graduates" such as the Academy of Maimonides.

      As long as the system of admission to the civil service is maintained on the principle of belonging to some party there, on the principle of fraternity, on the basis of the rotation of leading cadres, this will be so.
      A manager is always a manager, but never a specialist. I have something to manage on the drum. The main thing is that there is money with profit (this, by the way, is the main sign of a successful manager). This means that such managers are always temporary. They understand that today is the feeder, and tomorrow? Here they’re stuffing their pockets.
  5. Arberes
    Arberes 17 October 2013 09: 40
    11
    Quote: Igor39
    I think the authorities are puzzled by the eternal Russian question: Who is to blame? and what to do?

    You are a little wrong, dear Igor39 hi
    This question is constantly tormented by ordinary people and the liquid layer of an uninhabited intelligentsia.
    Our power is puzzled only by itself!
    1. AK-47
      AK-47 17 October 2013 10: 20
      +5
      Quote: Arberes
      Our power is puzzled only by itself!

      Moreover, she is trying to sit on two chairs, the result is on the face.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 17 October 2013 11: 01
        +3
        Quote: AK-47
        Moreover, she is trying to sit on two chairs, result on face.

        This "result" we are already tortured to wipe off our face! drinks
      2. soaring
        soaring 17 October 2013 13: 21
        0
        The result is usually one-HEMORROID !!! And on the face it is treated well, very difficult !!! wink drinks
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 11: 28
      +3
      Quote: Arberes
      Our power is puzzled only by itself!

      I agree. Lives on the principle of both ours and yours, if only they would not touch.
      1. shtanko.49
        shtanko.49 17 October 2013 17: 19
        +8
        I am sure that the patience of the people is not unlimited, Russia will be washed in blood, but it will be cleansed, first of all, of those who get rich on these slaves, because the root of evil is in our fucking capitalists, for the sake of dough they will uproot the entire Russian nation. And our rulers from the same stall. . "No one will give us deliverance, neither God, nor the king, and not a hero, we will achieve liberation with our own hand", so our grandfathers and great-grandfathers sang, history repeats itself.
    3. Evrepid
      Evrepid 23 October 2013 14: 03
      -1
      And it should make you comply with the constitution!
      Which says: That everyone has the right to creed, the right to work, the right to freedom of movement.

      And the Criminal Code provides for the fight against extremism, racism.
  6. forester
    forester 17 October 2013 09: 44
    17
    Today at one forum I read the opinion of one colleague of the driver about how hardworking Asians say chocks loaded the wagon in an hour and RUSSIANs were unloading for the fifth hour and didn’t even see the end, he didn’t want to answer without a mat, he couldn’t understand the MAIN thing because the chocks are being unloaded uploaded quickly And I completely agree with the author
  7. Stiletto
    Stiletto 17 October 2013 09: 48
    +5
    Quote: Igor39
    I think the authorities are puzzled by the eternal Russian question: Who is to blame? and what to do?


    I think she is deeply violet and to these questions, and to search for answers to them.
  8. albi77
    albi77 17 October 2013 09: 52
    +9
    Well, that's right, the question is why is this power?
    Now there are not people who care about the prosperity of the country, but "effective managers", but for managers it is necessary to lower costs (if it is impossible to increase profits), therefore, to lower salaries (to invite migrants instead of indigenous people) and reduce social benefits ...
    Therefore, there will be Gundezh that the Russians do not want to work ... that they are lazy and other nonsense, and that without the Caucasus and without Asia we will simply starve to death ... and all who are against are all nationalists ... by the way, the word is good .. ... a nationalist is one who cares about his nation ... it’s time for our rulers to become nationalists too and take care of the country, and not their own pockets.
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 17 October 2013 11: 32
      +3
      In order for the rulers of our country to be correct (!) nationalists - it is necessary that correct (!) nationalists went to the polls. Only one of the current powers that be will allow this? Indeed, if those who do not take bribes come to power, who are insulted by the state, this is a collapse for those basking in the state treasury.
  9. Kpox
    Kpox 17 October 2013 09: 52
    +4
    It is not at all a matter of the density of Caucasians per square meter, it is a matter of EDUCATION. I communicated well and communicate with people about 80-83 years of age. and older, but the young, brought up on propaganda - "The Russian occupiers, the Russians are bombing you, the Russians are robbing you" - this is the information war infantry. Any nationalist division is a threat to the sovereignty and integrity of the Russian Federation.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 11: 33
      +8
      Quote: Kpox
      It is not a matter of the density of Caucasians per square meter, it is a matter of EDUCATION.

      The point is its absence in general, in principle. The older generation is wiser, and the opinion of the majority of the older generation about Russians is just as negative - they just know how to keep it to themselves.
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 17 October 2013 19: 52
        +4
        Quote: Orik
        The older generation is wiser, and the opinion of the majority of the older generation about Russians is just as negative - they just know how to keep it to themselves.

        Exactly. 1975 - 1977 not with anyone's words, everything was as it is now - one Caucasian is normal, more than three - a beast.
    2. Orik
      Orik 17 October 2013 12: 02
      14
      There is one thing, but ... these are their children and these "wonderful" elders did not stop anyone when they drove the Russians out of the republics and slaughtered them in the Caucasus. Clans and that says it all, beautiful for the time being.
    3. Luga
      Luga 17 October 2013 12: 15
      -3
      For the last sentence - a bold plus. You should always remember that we are a multinational state. The narrow-nationalist approach to governing the Russian Federation will lead to its immediate collapse.
      1. Goodmen
        Goodmen 17 October 2013 14: 20
        +7
        "... The narrow nationalist approach to the management of the Russian Federation will lead to its immediate disintegration ..."
        The narrow nationalist approach is now! ))))
        When they spit on the interests of the indigenous majority !!!
        Yes, and to be honest, for all the small peoples of the Russian Federation, with the exception of the "offended tozherosians" ... you know from which region.
        keep secrecy, so as not to kindle)))))
      2. yastr
        yastr 17 October 2013 17: 52
        +6
        According to all the canons, a country where 80% of the population of one ethnic group is mono-ethnic.
      3. Evrepid
        Evrepid 23 October 2013 14: 06
        -1
        But nationalists do not like you, as well as me.
        Forgot about the decree issued 400 years ago! that everyone is equal, they want to be more equal than others.

        So the root of evil is not just in those who come, but in nationalism, which double-blooms in Moscow and the Moscow region.
        1. Evrepid
          Evrepid 23 October 2013 15: 59
          0
          Cons show that I'm right!
    4. Goodmen
      Goodmen 17 October 2013 13: 38
      +9
      "... Any nationalist division is a threat to the sovereignty and integrity of the Russian Federation ..."
      Arguing is stupid !!! There is no speech about separation. It's about putting them in a stall.
      "... 80-83 years of birth ..." - the very age. 1995 - 15/17 years old. Generation of war. And what kind of loyalty to the Russians can we talk about?
      And you communicate well - perhaps interests did not overlap, and perhaps an exception to the rule is possible.
      I used to communicate with the Armenians very well. It's not about one or two. I considered the same to be their normal people. He stood on their side when they had a showdown with the Turks and Azerbaijanis.
      And when an unpleasant situation arose out of the blue - I needed their help, other Armenians ran into me, then everything fell into place and I no longer feel illusions. By type "mine" just pretended that nothing was happening. Russian helped then. That's it. )))
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 16: 54
        +5
        Quote: Goodmen
        Russian helped then.

        It should always be that way.
  10. Proud.
    Proud. 17 October 2013 09: 55
    +4
    even the central media did not call them “Nazis,” “xenophobes,” “extremists,” etc.They called, they called ... Especially one printed edition. It called itself a "people's" newspaper.
  11. Humpty
    Humpty 17 October 2013 09: 58
    15
    When a kirdyk-ram is made, a third of the rams should be given to the poor. How many lonely old women and orphans in orphanages have each received a piece of meat? If in Moscow this ... a celebration similar to an unauthorized rally was celebrated by millions, then estimate how many tons of meat should have gone to help the poor in Moscow and in the region. At the venue of their ... festivities there should be posters with the inscription - "And to whom did you give the piece of ram?"
    1. Borz
      Borz 17 October 2013 15: 59
      +3
      Yes, let them choke on these rams. There were not enough handouts from them to take.
    2. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 19 October 2013 10: 08
      +5
      Yes, we do not need any occult sacrifices and eating animals on the streets of our cities !!!
  12. NC1982
    NC1982 17 October 2013 10: 00
    19
    In vain we won the right to host the 2014 Olympics, very in vain ... The thought comes to me that this right was "leaked" to us by deliberately far-sighted Western analysts ...
    1. Oleg1
      Oleg1 17 October 2013 10: 20
      +4
      The author is in many respects right ... do those who hold power do not understand that in the worsening economic situation, the Russian rebellion asks to demolish them and, in general, everything ......
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 17 October 2013 21: 30
      +2
      Quote: NC1982
      that this right was leaked to us by deliberately far-sighted Western analysts ...

      Of course, they leaked, there were simply no other fools to spend so much + they smeared as always members of the IOC
      The USSR went bankrupt from the arms race and Russia will die from pomp
  13. Letterksi
    Letterksi 17 October 2013 10: 08
    46
    I watched the video of the gathering in Biryulyovo. And something occurred to me to compare this event with the consequences of the revolutionary events in Bishkek 2005 and 2010. It would seem that there is a national revolt here too. But the difference is striking.

    There was no looting in Biryulyovo, as in Bishkek. Until now, there goes a contemptuous chase: "you as a marauder!". Children on the streets play marauders and security forces. In the games of these, the "siloviki" chase after the "marauders" and by all means catch them, setting the plastic sword on the head with their plastic sword)))) On the videos of those events, we can see how people are dragging everything valuable from the looted supermarkets: washing machines, televisions, microwaves. There was a banal robbery without a political goal. The people came to plunder, and someone made a revolution under the guise. That is how it was there. Therefore, the attitude of citizens to the marauders-revolutionaries is the most negative and contemptuous.

    The policemen who took part in the dispersal of the demonstrators were beaten, threw explosive packages under their feet, and covered them with plastic water bottles. The siloviki were forced to hide in the territories of enterprises and responded with equal reciprocity and diligence.

    In Biryulyovo we see a completely different picture. The people came out with clear requirements. The government will unsuccessfully try to translate the arrows on all kinds of Natsik there and so on, but the cadres speak more eloquently. From the cadres you can see that the residents of the district are on the street In "Boryuza" they only broke through the entrance and set fire to it ... but then they put out. The shopping center was not robbed and was not taken apart piece by piece. The people didn’t care what was inside - they didn’t come out to take it away. Machines overturned only within their requirements. Fruit and vegetable base trashed more for the species than for looting. People passing by did not shy away from the crowd in fear, but joined in. Even passing by cars joined the procession. Now it is clear that the majority supported and supported the residents of Biryulyovo.

    The riot police behaved quite correctly, the people also did not strongly beat the riot police and climbed on the rampage. Basically there were power "wall" talkaniya. There were isolated cases of broken heads, but not massively.

    I saw in the events in Biryulyovo the people's army, and not a flock of idiot marauders like in Bishkek. This army pursued certain goals and objectives, well understood by it, and not a banal profit. She behaved extremely correctly as much as possible in such situations. And who says that the Russians cannot unite? If they unite, they immediately join the army with goals and objectives that are well understood by everyone.
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 17 October 2013 10: 48
      +1
      Somehow you watched the video very inattentively. There was enough looting there.
      1. Letterksi
        Letterksi 17 October 2013 11: 05
        +2
        And you look for Bishkek video
        1. nasmus
          nasmus 17 October 2013 12: 09
          +2
          And you better tell about Zhanozen.
          1. Letterksi
            Letterksi 17 October 2013 12: 55
            +3
            I’ll tell you about Zhanaozen, if you want.

            Everything was the same there as in Bishkek. In addition, people told me there were saboteurs from Kyrgyzstan, professional revolutionaries, so to speak, with the experience of the Bishkek and Osh pogroms.

            In Zhanaozen it is not at all clear who wanted what and who destroyed what. Then the pogroms poured into the striking oil workers. Most of them were surprised, like in a movie: "the tower, did I knock it down too?" These events were all sabotage for the sake of sabotage. To the credit of the Zhanaozenovites, not everyone joined the senseless pogrom without any demands (raising the salaries of the oil workers doesn’t count at all, they don’t get bad money anyway in this region)
      2. Alexkorzun
        Alexkorzun 17 October 2013 11: 39
        -11 qualifying.
        I don’t understand, and who is minus you. Well, if there were looting facts (and they were) you won’t overwhelm the minuses ... a strange position ... and an odious article.
        1. Silkway0026
          Silkway0026 17 October 2013 11: 54
          +1
          Lyokha, I look and you got it))) here some (besides - visitors) confuse patriotism with hatred.
          1. Alexkorzun
            Alexkorzun 18 October 2013 12: 59
            -1
            people do not give themselves the trouble to understand what is written and seen. and then there’s some kind of cheb .... sorry, a kind person from Kazakhstan, whists earn money on OUR problems.
            1. Essenger
              Essenger 18 October 2013 15: 33
              +4
              Quote: Alexkorzun
              kind person from Kazakhstan whist earns money on OUR problems

              He is Russian with a residence permit in Kazakhstan
              1. Alexkorzun
                Alexkorzun 18 October 2013 21: 06
                -2
                I am happy for him and his registration. But nefig distort the facts. (also, apparently, without registration)))))
      3. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 17 October 2013 20: 40
        +3
        Quote: Silkway0026
        Somehow you watched the video very inattentively. There was enough looting there.
      4. AlexW
        AlexW 18 October 2013 03: 47
        0
        Yes, as in Pugachev, provocateurs were quickly brought up ...
    2. Humpty
      Humpty 17 October 2013 12: 02
      0
      ]
      Quote: LetterKsi
      There was no looting in Biryulyovo like in Bishkek. Until now, there is a contemptuous chase: "you are like a marauder!" Children on the streets are playing marauders and security officials. In the games of these "siloviks" chase after "marauders" and will certainly catch them, hitting them in the head with a plastic sword))))


      Children invented the wrong game. During the last inter-Kyrgyz coup, the cops threw their uniforms and robbed shops, including in order to change clothes. The "victims" are declared heroes. Where did 90% of the "victims" come from? They were simply shot like dogs in the streets and warehouses of shopping centers, kind people. Such is the folk fun in Kushkek.
      1. Letterksi
        Letterksi 17 October 2013 13: 16
        0
        I mean the same. showed marauding "unity". Who will beat or shoot whom, or who has a stolen iron sopret, is right
  14. Ddhal
    Ddhal 17 October 2013 10: 13
    17
    5) cancel the EGE or stop counting the results of the enrollment from the national republics upon admission to universities. Let them pass exams according to the old scheme.
    6) Return the nationality column to the passport
    1. Normal
      Normal 17 October 2013 14: 20
      +1
      Quote: DDHAL
      5) to cancel the EGE or to stop counting upon admission to universities the results of the enrollment from the national republics ....
      6) Return the nationality column to the passport


      AS? How to do it?
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  16. Mhpv
    Mhpv 17 October 2013 10: 26
    20
    The authorities otmazyvatsya as always. They carried out with revealing pathos the arrest, even brought to Petrovka. What shines for him for killing a maximum of 5 years and that’s all. Then the funniest type you wanted to close was the vegetable depot, we closed it, and what people already demand from the authorities is a solid policy regarding migrants and Caucasians as always trying to muffle.
    But did the authorities themselves think that now one or two such situations and the people will be even easier to raise, and just those who want to finish off Russia by breaking it into warring areas can take advantage of this? Indeed, this problem is really, as Zhirinovsky-Eidelshtein said (you won’t even say it right away), you can solve it in a couple of years by quiet glanders without raising the buoys and not attracting special attention, you just want to want it.
  17. ed65b
    ed65b 17 October 2013 10: 27
    +6
    I do not quite agree. Caucasians stand up and chopped up for the Russians and with their fellow tribesmen. It all depends on who he is to you, if a friend, stands up. if so, then no. There were enough examples in my life, everything has been tested on personal experience.
    1. EGORKA
      EGORKA 17 October 2013 10: 33
      +3
      I confirm.
  18. IRBIS
    IRBIS 17 October 2013 10: 30
    +9
    Do not add, do not diminish - everything is absolutely right and to the point. Our management does not go beyond conversations. And, which is alarming, I do not see among modern politicians who could do something, and this is sad. All just row for themselves.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 17 October 2013 20: 55
      +1
      Quote: IRBIS
      I don’t see among modern politicians who could do something

      A 26.03.2000 you saw differently? laughing
  19. Snoop
    Snoop 17 October 2013 10: 34
    +2
    Close Russia to several national zones?))) Doesn't roll. The problem I consider only in corruption, it will not be like a system and everything will be fine.
  20. falcon
    falcon 17 October 2013 10: 36
    +7
    What the Author writes about is clear to any normal Russian. Well, and the authorities, unfortunately, have no
    no conclusions. People and power coexist in too different, nowhere intersecting
    Russia.
    Article +
  21. EGORKA
    EGORKA 17 October 2013 10: 38
    +1
    Without changes in domestic politics this cannot be changed, it has been rubbed more than once ... First of all, even now the local authorities and the police are not working out, because there are necessary laws even now, you just have to fulfill your duties.
  22. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 17 October 2013 10: 38
    +9
    I liked the article very much! Why don't our politicians think so ?! Because they are traitors! The golden calf has blinded them! How sad it sounds, but only the revolution with nationalization will help us, like that!
    1. Kpox
      Kpox 17 October 2013 10: 49
      -14 qualifying.
      "Kashchenko" won't help you either ...
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 11: 40
      +5
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      How sad it sounds, but only the revolution with nationalization will help us, like that!

      I agree with nationalization, but we can’t survive yet another revolution; we need to find levers of pressure on the government and change leadership. Unfortunately, the country needs a leader, but there is no such thing on the horizon.
      1. bodriy
        bodriy 17 October 2013 13: 06
        +7
        how ... from the 90s we are looking at this shame, I’m talking about the elections ... who will miss a strong candidate from the people then ?! they’ll put Kvachkova and Putin at 69%, because he will be opposed by Navalny with an old-age coma Zyuganov !!!
      2. Normal
        Normal 17 October 2013 14: 24
        +1
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        need ..... change the manual.

        AS? How to do it?
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 17: 11
          +4
          Quote: Normal
          AS? How to do it?

          If the authorities do not want or cannot come to their senses, then it must leave. Find a leader. Man needs to be found, not politics. Enough of politics, things are needed, not chatter. So far we have only talk, but no one is looking for a real leader. But if a revolution occurs, who will lead the country? I don’t know how to find, to cry out, to organize a party in VO, there are so many patriots.
          1. Normal
            Normal 17 October 2013 18: 00
            +8
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            If the authorities do not want or cannot come to their senses, then it must leave.

            This is clear. But the question, Ruslan, you did not answer. This is not a rebuke, this is a statement.
            The leader cannot be found. They found Putin and what, and most importantly, whose "leader" is this? This is a talking biorobot, concerned only with its image and the preservation of its chair.
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Enough of politics, things are needed, not chatter.

            Well? Continue, Ruslan. After all, residents of Biryulev demanded to clean up and close the base for more than one year.
            And no one could or did not want to do anything. Of course, Magomed Tolboyev is a friend of the president! Who will close his enterprise. Again, kickbacks - the base was needed and beneficial to many "respected people"
            And the base was "closed" ... by several hundred young and not quite sober "extremists". They closed it in a few hours.
            Well, so how to make the authorities fulfill their duties? How to change this power? wink
  23. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 17 October 2013 10: 40
    +3
    Flames will ignite from the Spark !!!
  24. serge
    serge 17 October 2013 10: 56
    23
    It's funny that the celebration of Kurban-Baran neither in Kazan, nor in Ufa, nor in Makhachkala, nor in Grozny is not accompanied by the pursuit of rams on the central streets, blocking the streets and laying out rugs on the tram tracks. But once in Moscow, a Caucasian-Asian Muslim breaks loose as a chain and starts doing everything that it does not do at home. And the Moscow authorities allow him to do what the authorities do not allow at his home. That is, the authorities in the Russian cities deliberately set off Russians with Asians and Caucasians.
    1. Normal
      Normal 17 October 2013 14: 29
      +7
      Quote: serge
      That is, the authorities in Russian cities specifically pit Russians with Asians and Caucasians.


      No. The authorities do not play off Russians with foreigners. Authorities replace Russians with Caucasians and Asians. Authorities rely on non-Russians.
  25. Yeraz
    Yeraz 17 October 2013 10: 59
    -17 qualifying.
    The article is largely nonsense. Especially with regard to the diaspora. I already wrote that ordinary Russians have a dull idea of ​​the diasporas, their leaders and their influence on their fellow countrymen. I am an Azerbaijani citizen of Russia and how can the head of the diaspora curb me or say something ?? ?? Who is he to me ??? He is generally who ???? And do you even know that there are several Diaspora organizations in St. Petersburg ?? The leaders of these diasporas are usually very rich people who are in full contact with the Russian authorities, like any oligarchy. They they’re only busy inviting singers to Novruz Bayram for big money, organizing holidays in honor of the support of Ilham Aliyev and GDP during the elections. Only from them is ZERO for the people !!!
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 17 October 2013 11: 09
      +7
      maybe you’re right, but I put a minus to you - I don’t have a Dumb idea about diasporas, but it may be erroneous
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 17 October 2013 11: 26
        +8
        Quote: Starfish
        maybe you’re right, but I put a minus to you - I don’t have a Dumb idea about diasporas, but it may be erroneous

        In the heat of hotness, I wrote this? Are you right))) It's just that many of them have a superstructure with a total influence on their fellow countrymen. They say that the diaspora will stop, the diaspora will order, yeah, they went straight to spend their money to smear some poor guy from the mountains .
        1. Analyst
          Analyst 17 October 2013 12: 06
          -1
          Quote: Yeraz
          diaspora will smear

          On the contrary, as far as I know, it was the diaspora that helped in the capture.
          1. Normal
            Normal 17 October 2013 14: 33
            +2
            Quote: Analyst
            On the contrary, as far as I know, it was the diaspora that helped in the capture.

            Where does infa come from?
            1. Analyst
              Analyst 17 October 2013 14: 48
              0
              Quote: Normal
              Where does infa come from?


              http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1142958&cid=520
              http://www.firstnews.ru/articles/silovikov-k-zeynalovu-priveli-biznes-interesy/
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 17 October 2013 11: 42
      +2
      The members of these diasporas are usually very wealthy people who


      Where does the money come from? these "usually very rich people" ?. Are taxes paid on every penny? How many corrupt officials turned in?
    3. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 11: 45
      +4
      Quote: Yeraz
      I already wrote that ordinary Russians have a dull idea of ​​the diasporas, their leaders and their influence on their fellow countrymen.


      We have a dumb idea, do not offend us, well, why? hi
  26. morpogr
    morpogr 17 October 2013 11: 13
    +7
    Everyone must finally understand that while making a profit for themselves on migrants, he’s digging a hole for himself. The policeman must understand today he let go for money or closed his eyes for something, tomorrow the one whom he let go will bother your wife’s sister, the official who hired the migrant will be beaten, robbed, who handed over an apartment can be lost with the help of fraud, an illegal taxi driver who paid the traffic police can make an accident where relatives of a traffic cop may suffer. It is necessary to deprive migrants of the opportunity to earn money for us to remove the opportunity to engage in any illegal fishing here.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 17 October 2013 11: 44
      0
      Those who make a profit on migrants do not care about their future in Russia: they have it wherever the money goes.
  27. vadimN
    vadimN 17 October 2013 11: 15
    12
    Today on rbc.ru published information that, at first glance, is quite normal ... But if you think about it, it shows very well how much in our society, and more precisely in our government, everything is rotten!

    Here is the address: http://top.rbc.ru/incidents/17/10/2013/882643.shtml

    On RBC, news very quickly goes to the archive, so I will quote from the article here:

    Law enforcers were able to get on the trail of the alleged killer Yegor Shcherbakov, Azerbaijani Orkhan Zeynalov, thanks to the actions of the FSB. Representatives of the Azerbaijani diaspora have given out his whereabouts to the siloviki, Kommersant reports.
    After O. Zeynalov fled from Moscow, he took refuge in Ryazan with his distant relatives. He managed to escape police prosecution, but the FSB turned to "authoritative representatives of the Azerbaijani diaspora", frightening them with business problems.


    Now brief and scary conclusionsthat follow from the described situation:

    1. In any case, the Diasporas are aware of the crimes of their relatives and harbor them. They live next to us and spit on our laws. National kinship for them is above all laws. What multinational legal state can we talk about here ???

    2. There is only one way to force the diaspora to follow the law - by hitting it with a ruble, that is, creating problems in business. To create problems in a business, you need to have information about the illegal activities of this business. They are, who would have doubted. And law enforcement officers know about them. And in an ordinary situation, they turn a blind eye to all this business lawlessness, conceived not for free. To start fighting lawlessness, you need to get what we call a "resonant case."

    I did not say anything new that everyone would not know ... But, if you think about it, the situation is terrible - we live in a completely criminal world, where lawlessness is an everyday routine, and the fight against crime is a "resonant case".

    In Russia, there never has been, and never will be a rule of law state.
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 17 October 2013 20: 43
      +1
      Quote: vadimN
      he took refuge in Ryazan ...

      Maybe in Kolomna?
      Quote: vadimN
      Diasporas in any case know about the crimes of their relatives and hide them

      Well, so Tolboev said, Tolboev did. wink
  28. Andreitas
    Andreitas 17 October 2013 11: 28
    +4
    Absolutely correct article. To do as it is written in it, urkagans you look many times lessened on our land.
  29. Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 17 October 2013 11: 34
    +7
    Everything is written correctly in the article. The power in Russia is against us, ordinary people.
  30. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 17 October 2013 11: 37
    +4
    We bet that the authorities haven’t drawn any conclusions from what happened? Now, until the next time, they seem to have found the switchmen, someone seemed to be fired and everything calms down. "Interesting" times await us, however.
  31. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 17 October 2013 11: 37
    +6
    Quote: Yarbay
    All good things get clogged up quickly - this is a feature of Russian Natsiks !!



    no, you're wrong! No one forgets the good, but one good deed cannot cross out, so to speak, thousands of bad ones! To your topic about the two saved, let's give statistics below about the number of raped people, what will you beat?
  32. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 17 October 2013 11: 41
    14
    And in general, all these speeches about Russian Natsik-what a nonsense !!!! I don’t understand something the fact that Russians are being persecuted from everywhere, where their minority is, and here we have to shelter everyone! The great Russian people and they have the right to defend their land from any kind of invaders and there is no talk of any nationalism !!!!!!!!
    1. Lolocat
      Lolocat 17 October 2013 13: 32
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: Dwarfik
      And in general, all these speeches about Russian Natsik-what a nonsense !!!! I don’t understand something the fact that Russians are being persecuted from everywhere, where their minority is, and here we have to shelter everyone! The great Russian people and they have the right to defend their land from any kind of invaders and there is no talk of any nationalism !!!!!!!!


      Yes, no one is driving Russian anywhere. They behave this way. Slightly someone with a different physiology is all a criminal at once.
  33. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 October 2013 11: 43
    +6
    Most normal people understand that this is a saddle on the part of foreigners. Only now our power somehow differently explains these crimes. How long will this go on? There is only one conclusion - the most severe control for all visitors from other regions and countries on the territory of the Russian Federation.
    For example, as in the DPRK. You won’t take a single step there, without supervision, not intrusive, but under supervision.
    Of course, we don’t put a person behind every foreigner, but TIGHT CONTROL IS JUST REQUIRED.
  34. pensioner
    pensioner 17 October 2013 11: 47
    +7
    What conclusions will the power not draw from a popular rebellion in Biryulevo
    As usual, right. But not for long. Passion will subside and that’s it ... The market will work. Again, another 1200 migrants will find shelter there (illegal essno), again the eyes of the local police will close their eyes ... In the place of Zeynalov, another one will get the same. And everything will be harmonious until the next murder ...
  35. Kpox
    Kpox 17 October 2013 12: 12
    -16 qualifying.
    Stubborn nationalists want to cross out the thousand-year history of the multi-ethnic Russian state? Revolution? - Welkam to the barricades - just don’t whine later that you’ve been undemocraticly fucked up;) For now, everyone has gone to the RO, BAN ... well, or whatever they will write me there.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 17 October 2013 12: 40
      +4
      Quote: Kpox
      ... or whatever they write me there.


      ... belt .. laughing
    2. Forest
      Forest 17 October 2013 13: 15
      +5
      This is how the people are already dissatisfied with ethno-crime as "stubborn nationalists".
      Rather, tolerasts will be "chilled" from both sides)
      1. Kpox
        Kpox 17 October 2013 13: 33
        -6
        I'm not talking about those dissatisfied with crime (which, by the way, has no nationality), but about the "nationalizers" of the state and "revolutionaries".
        1. Forest
          Forest 17 October 2013 13: 39
          +2
          Does crime have no nationality? you all "thieves in law", who are 99% kaukaztsy, deprived of their nationality by their power?
          1. Kpox
            Kpox 17 October 2013 13: 40
            -4
            Proof in the form of a document or a link to official statistics will be?
            1. Forest
              Forest 17 October 2013 14: 04
              +5
              http://criminalnaya.ru/publ/11-1-0-294 "наслаждайтесь " своими подзащитными.
          2. Kpox
            Kpox 17 October 2013 13: 58
            -7
            And yet - it is detrimental to attach nationality to crime. It's like America: These guys are bad, and these are Theirs (although they are also terrorists).
            1. Forest
              Forest 17 October 2013 14: 06
              +3
              Is it harmful to do an analysis of the criminal nationality? Is it for someone detrimental to the criminal or for those who want order in their home?
              1. Kpox
                Kpox 17 October 2013 14: 12
                -3
                Maybe the news, but our Caucasus is also part of our home.
                1. Forest
                  Forest 17 October 2013 14: 29
                  +4
                  Therefore, there is no need to put things in order once "part of the house"?
                  1. Kpox
                    Kpox 17 October 2013 14: 58
                    -2
                    It seems we are arguing with each one about our own :)
                    1. Forest
                      Forest 17 October 2013 15: 11
                      +5
                      Yes, that's for sure - I take care of my house, and you are alien to me.
                2. volkodav
                  volkodav 19 October 2013 17: 51
                  +1
                  OUR CAUCASUS WITH TERK COSSACKS AND KUBANS,
        2. Normal
          Normal 17 October 2013 17: 42
          +8
          Quote: Kpox
          I'm not talking about dissatisfied with crime (which, by the way, has no nationality),


          Crime, of course, has no nationality. As there is no nationality in law-abiding or religious tolerance.
          But the criminal has a nationality! IS ALWAYS! This does not require discussion and proof. It is enough to ask the criminal himself what nationality he is, and the worn-out, meaningless snag will disappear. There has never been a case when a criminal said - "I have no nationality."
          In accordance with national characteristics, the offender is either seeking help from fellow tribesmen, or hiding from fellow tribesmen. Tribesmen either defend the criminal and help him, or condemn him, too, in accordance with national customs.
    3. volkodav
      volkodav 19 October 2013 17: 49
      -1
      In KASCHENKO YOU NEED AN EXPENSIVE COMRADE
  36. samoletil18
    samoletil18 17 October 2013 12: 15
    11
    Everything in the article is stated as it should and correctly, for which +. But the author did not remember about the electoral component. In every election for the current government, a vote of over 100% in the Caucasus. A migrant who has obtained citizenship himself will become a stronghold of such a government; he also has the task of adding relatives to him as well. And yet, maternity capital should be paid only in regions with low birth rates, and not in the North Caucasus and without qualification of settledness. You cannot humiliate a proud people with money! With this money, it’s better to create jobs there. Let them work with their hands.
    1. volkodav
      volkodav 19 October 2013 17: 54
      +1
      STUPIDY SPEAK - WHY DO THE GORGET CAUCASIANS WORK WHEN MOSCOW AND SO MONEY WILL DUST
  37. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 17 October 2013 12: 21
    +6
    You can fence yourself off from everyone and live on your collective farm. It's like in chess, if you are passive and on the defensive, you lose. As other players absorb everything that you can take. Get out of Russia from your south, there will be China. Get out of the west - there will be the EU. The nationals in the Urals, Siberia, and the Far East will continue to raise their tail - with financing and supply, not just the Yakuts, Chukchi Evenks will go to fight for their right to self-determination. You need to think and solve problems and not run away from them.
    1. understudy
      understudy 17 October 2013 12: 46
      +3
      Quote: Sadykoff
      You can fence yourself off from everyone and live on your collective farm.

      You don't have to fence yourself off. It is necessary at least to make sure that Article 282 of the Criminal Code is no longer called "Russian".
    2. max702
      max702 17 October 2013 15: 27
      11
      If we leave, then the indigenous peoples will end very quickly, first they will cut out each other, and then the newcomers will finish off the rest, or do you think that the Chinese, Turks, or even more so the British and Americans will suffer liberalization? Let me remind you that during the war, when the Chechens were waiting for the arrival of the Germans as deliverers from the Russian "yoke" and as they could crap, the Germans at that time picked up a gorge on the map where you can dispose of all the mountaineers because "they cannot be trained, and there is no need for them", here this is how Russia's replacements will deal with the local population. For the Chinese, all the rest are simply not people and will not experience any moral remorse during the genocide.
  38. P-15
    P-15 17 October 2013 12: 24
    +2
    And IT IS NOT TAKEN THAT) Or everyone has a hoax or .....
    1. Kpox
      Kpox 17 October 2013 12: 26
      -3
      ..or perspective distortions of cameras in different pictures.
      1. P-15
        P-15 17 October 2013 12: 31
        0
        You look at his lips, belly nose)) and indeed on the features. Apparently it was necessary to find the switchman.
        1. Kpox
          Kpox 17 October 2013 12: 37
          +1
          Look at the ears and hairstyle. apparently need to find a reason?
          1. P-15
            P-15 17 October 2013 12: 46
            0
            )))) planted in the shape of ears and hairstyles? You clearly see these are completely different people. One has a head like a melon, while the other has a cheeky and bulging chin. And the hairstyle is so completely different. A person could not grow hair like that in a couple of days.
    2. Starfish
      Starfish 17 October 2013 12: 43
      +2
      And IT IS NOT TAKEN THAT) Or everyone has a hoax or .....

      maybe so. It’s easier for you to distinguish your compatriots. and there is no special trust in Our government
      1. P-15
        P-15 17 October 2013 12: 52
        0
        It is not a matter of distrust of your authority. Just a difference on the face. In order not to see it, you just need to be blind. By the way, I can distinguish not only mine, but even a Vietnamese from a Chinese, not to mention the Slavs.
        No 2 people are alike.
    3. ioann1
      ioann1 17 October 2013 12: 58
      0
      do not put a shadow on the wattle fence!
      1. P-15
        P-15 17 October 2013 13: 24
        0
        Yes, there were no thoughts.
    4. pensioner
      pensioner 17 October 2013 19: 02
      0
      Quote: P-15
      And IT IS NOT TAKEN THAT) Or everyone has a hoax or .....

      Try to take a picture of yourself through the lens ... Mom will not know ... Not to mention friends ... Ears, lips, belly ... You will learn a lot of interesting things about yourself ...
    5. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 19 October 2013 10: 30
      +2
      Well, tell me that in the picture on the left is not an overdosed monkey ..
  39. Orik
    Orik 17 October 2013 12: 30
    +2
    Yes, here are two examples. The first. In 2010, for work, I had to communicate with the manager of the business center, who, unlike many of his own kind, did not hire either Tajiks, Kyrgyz or Caucasians. So, the Russian people (Muscovites!) Also worked as scavengers for him and received 40 000 rubles / month. We must assume that the same electricians and plumbers, i.e. skilled workers were getting more. But it was, I repeat, 2010, when prices and, accordingly, salaries were lower. Read! Read those who left angry reviews about my article "What I see Russia, ready for war", outraged by my offer to pay 50 thousand to loaders.

    It’s absolutely true, I didn’t take these to work, I have to pay somewhere around 50% more, but this stimulates the development of automation in production and vice versa the availability of cheap labor does not stimulate the entrepreneur to develop production. The availability of cheap labor reduces the income of all (!) Wage earners, but more than the low-paid categories of which we have about 75%!
  40. pahom54
    pahom54 17 October 2013 12: 35
    +4
    You read such articles and reviews on them and think: why are there quite enough smart, sober, sensible men among the people, and among the ruling elite you don’t understand who ... Is this just like there is no prophet in your Fatherland, or what ??? So, they are ...
    There, Medvedev is mumbling about the public government ... Well, take normal people and listen ... But it’s true, it’s not an hour, a civil war will break out, and then everyone and everyone will be kneaded, not taking apart .. .
    Involuntarily, bad thoughts arise ... At one time, Gorbach received the Shnobel Peace Prize for his short-sighted policy, for the collapse of the USSR, the great and mighty. So maybe someone is now attracted to the laurels of the destroyer of Russia ??? After all, if a civil war ensues, then this will be the collapse of Russia ...
  41. Ddhal
    Ddhal 17 October 2013 12: 38
    +7
    Local results are encouraging
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 17 October 2013 12: 51
      +4
      Local results are encouraging

      sorry, but most likely they will remain local, and even then not for long.
      - the killer was caught, but some have doubts that it’s really him, and not a scapegoat who was handed over by the diaspora, which in a couple of years will not be released quietly,
      - both closed and open. Cherkizon as an example,
      - as the case against the hands of the base opened, and close,
      - as they detained migrants, they will release them, or they will bring in new ones, and even more,
      - the head of the police department was fired, they will find another warm place, and the same thing about the FMS.
      everything in our modern history speaks for it, unfortunately
      1. vezunchik
        vezunchik 17 October 2013 17: 22
        0
        after all, someone is protecting these bazaars and bases ...
      2. Normal
        Normal 18 October 2013 02: 02
        +3
        Quote: Starfish
        sorry, but most likely they will remain local, and even then not for long.

        So after all, only hundreds of these results were achieved in just a few hours.
        Thousands and in days will achieve more.
        Tens of thousands per week will adjust state policy.
        Hundreds of thousands in a month will dismiss the government.
        Millions will change the system.
        The choice is yours. Pound Claudia or fight for their rights and interests.
    2. AlexW
      AlexW 18 October 2013 04: 01
      +4
      Sadly, only such "popular gatherings" force the authorities to somehow move, at least to a small extent to comply with the laws. "One kick in the balls replaces ten hours of political studies"
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  42. understudy
    understudy 17 October 2013 12: 42
    11
    Yesterday, the results of the public opinion poll were discussed ... remember? So there, in the overwhelming majority, were those who "for peace, friendship, chewing gum" with the newcomers and are ready to dance lezginka with them.
    At the moment, the author of the article is supported by 82 people and against 5. And now something tells me that this ratio of "votes" corresponds to reality, and not infe sucked from ...
    This is not nationalism! This is just a form of protection for their culture, customs and norms of behavior. Still passive protection.
  43. cayman
    cayman 17 October 2013 12: 44
    10
    To the author of article plus. And what conclusions will the authorities draw from a popular rebellion in Biryulev? Will do, do not hesitate, but not the kind that the “tolerant” part of the Russians so naively hopes for. The authorities will simply accelerate the pace of substitution. Ethnic Russians will continue to be replaced by foreign emigrants. Because, differently tribal, not rooted mass is easier to manage. After all, the ruling class is thoroughly Russophobic, organically hostile and alien to the Russian people, and indeed consisting mainly of the same foreigners. How many you will find among the so-called elite, ethnically Russian? If they do, then they are mostly rootless “Sharoviks” who faithfully serve the “schwonders” and hate their formal tribesmen almost more than their masters. There has never been, and never is, any friendship of peoples, either in the USSR or in the present Russian Federation. Born and raised in Kazakhstan - I know what I’m talking about. There have never been fair international relations. And then and now the Russians were a disenfranchised mass, which was either altered into the “Soviet people” or now into the “Russians”. All nationalities had and still have ethnic statehood (even Jews have a Jewish autonomous region), but not Russians. So do not need hypocrisy, Russia and the Russians have always been a cash cow. This was and will continue to be so until the Russian people acquire their national statehood, their national power, and therefore the protection of their rights. We have no other way.
  44. saner
    saner 17 October 2013 13: 08
    +6
    National analysis is when one nation puts itself above all others. (You can check by dictionary)
    And in our case, one nation is trying to get the power from it so that it has at least the same rights with everyone else, so that it’s impossible to kill with impunity, so that you can easily walk along the streets, etc. And where is the national analysis here ?????
  45. Lolocat
    Lolocat 17 October 2013 13: 12
    0
    Maybe this is only so in Moscow.
    In spite of the fact that the national minorities more than half the population do not dance lezgins in the streets and
    sheep are not cut. That happens to blame themselves, not visitors.
  46. azkolt
    azkolt 17 October 2013 13: 13
    +5
    The article is good! I would like to add on my own that if you do not pull out the guys who were identified as scapegoats, that is, the organizers of the riots, then the price for all this and to us, especially Biryulevsky, is worthless!
  47. Lolocat
    Lolocat 17 October 2013 13: 16
    +1
    It’s interesting - if some Ivanov Biryulevites would have kicked Yegor with a knife, would they have gone?
    I think not, no one would spend their day off on this.
    1. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 17 October 2013 13: 31
      10
      Perhaps they would not come out. It's just that people are already tired of such lawlessness of migrants. I am a Caucasian myself, but I am afraid for my only 18 year old son. That there is such a "zeynalov" or conditional "ivanov" who decides that he has the right to poke a knife in all directions. And I won't care who he is by nationality. He will not live to see the trial. I will assemble the gathering myself if my strength is not enough. In general, the problem is not that a Caucasian stabbed a Russian or a Kyrgyz Udmutrt, a Russian Vietnamese ... The problem is that the authorities allow it. It seems that they are in a high if young people do not live up to retirement ... Why, fewer pensioners, more in their pockets. Well and the like. All power has rotted long ago, the people for them are nothing more than workers. And I will not be surprised if, after a short time, an all-Russian gathering begins.
  48. Lolocat
    Lolocat 17 October 2013 13: 22
    0
    In general, I agree with the author. Pay people for work appreciate employees. And no one will go to you. They attacked the gastrik, but if the police were to be believed, the killer didn’t work anywhere, he was engaged in a private carriage. Yes, we have that Russian, which is not when lounging is usually some kind of taxi driver.
  49. Odysseus
    Odysseus 17 October 2013 13: 27
    +4
    I am amazed at the naivety and manipulation of people. Truly: it’s easy for oligarchs, bandits and officials to rob such people.
    What conclusions will the authorities draw from the events in Biryulev? Lord, she created these events.
    Why did millions of migrants appear in Moscow? Yes, because we have capitalism, and the rate of profit during their operation is higher.
    Where did these migrants come from, the former Soviet and Russian autonomous republics with the economy and education system destroyed under capitalism? There is no work, people are gradually immersed in savagery, and our businessmen import them into themselves in the form of slaves, or they themselves begin to hunt with banditry.
    That is the reason in the policy of the authorities, in wrong life arrangement
    You need to storm the Kremlin, not the vegetable warehouse.
    But in order to prevent this from happening, the authorities have been using for 1000 years as a tried-and-true tactic - divide and rule. The main enemies are "foreigners who have come in large numbers" and some beggars (the local population) are pitted against others (migrants), while the authorities appears to be the only guarantor of the “stability of society.” “The owners of life” at this time, of course, calmly continue to conduct their business and buy locks in Scotland, sneezing from the highest bell tower both on “disenfranchised Russians” and “foreigners who have come in large numbers.”
  50. Luga
    Luga 17 October 2013 13: 31
    0
    For some reason, respected members of the forum, in the majority of their comments, urge the use of exclusively administrative and punitive methods to solve the national issue. In my opinion, too one-sided approach. Most of the problems associated with migrants arise due to the catastrophically low level of cultural development of the latter. They, at home, do not represent by what rules people live in other places. Leaving home and breaking free from the power of their elders (and there is often no other authority there), they receive moral freedom from everything. The federal law is secondary to them in relation to their customs and rules of social behavior, but in large cities no one knows these customs and rules and cannot be forced to implement them, the elders have remained at home, and there are no other authorities ...
    At the same time, they (foreigners) come to us completely unadapted to a society that is alien to them, as a result, they come together in close-knit, organized groups, and live according to the laws of this very group, not even the laws of their homeland.
    For example, they sincerely consider our girls to be whores because there they have whores who look and behave just like that.
    It is impossible to force a person to obey rules that he does not know.
    It is impossible to instill in a person the idea that the Law is higher than the will of the parents and elders of his village, despite the fact that neither one nor the other is nearby.
    My opinion is that they must first of all be taught. Start there in the mountains. Continue (at their expense, of course) is already here. Without a special diploma confirming knowledge of our language, our history, our customs, secular ethics, etc. do not allow work.
    But with losers or truants to talk already in the language of power. And finish up in other places.
    And we must always remember that our ancestors managed to create and maintain such a huge and strong state, primarily due to their willingness to perceive the customs of other people, peoples, absorb something, reject something, learn something, and learn something teach. We always began the development of new lands with the construction of schools, and not with reservations. That is how cities and lands joined our Stainless.
    1. Lolocat
      Lolocat 17 October 2013 13: 39
      -2
      You know, I think that for the national majority in Moscow your recommendations are more suitable. How are you going to demand from strangers if you cannot from your own?