Su-35C fighter: pending T-50

Su-35 board №07 red, Ramenskoye, no later than August 25 2013 (photo - Vladimir Petrov, http://russianplanes.net/id117273).

The fifth-generation fighter T-50, created under the PAK FA program, will go into service with the air force no earlier than 2015-16. For some time after being put into service, the number of these aircraft in the Air Force will be insignificant and they will not be able to have a major impact on the general condition and capabilities of the armed forces. In this regard, it was decided to purchase additional types of fighters of another type, designed to become a temporary measure in anticipation of a sufficient number of T-50. The Su-35С fighter was chosen as the most modern and sophisticated aircraft designed to ensure the combat capability of the Air Force over the coming years.

Su-35С with number 01413 in the workshop of the final assembly of KnAAPO, Komsomolsk-on-Amur, publication 05.10.2013 (photo - Elena Peteshova, http://www.rg.ru/).

Until 2015, Komsomolsk-on-Amur aviation the plant should build and transfer to the troops 48 Su-35S aircraft. To date, according to various sources, 10-12 cars have been built. In addition, the plans for the current 2013 include the construction of 12 new aircraft. The same plan is defined for 2014, and in 2015 aircraft manufacturers from Komsomolsk-on-Amur should build 15 fighters. Officials mentioned several times that after completion of work under the current contract, a new order for 48 Su-35S fighters is possible. For obvious reasons, it is not yet completely clear whether a second contract will be signed.

The beginning of the construction of the Su-35C fighters was preceded by a long-lasting epic with the development of a new aircraft of the Su-27 family. The development of a fighter with the Su-27M index, which later received a new designation Su-35, began in the mid-eighties of the last century. The main difference of the updated Su-27 from the base machine was the use of several new technical and technological solutions, as well as the widespread use of modern at that time electronic equipment, including digital. In 1988, the prototype of the T-10М-1, converted from the serial Su-27, for the first time rose into the sky. Before 1994, Sukhoi and Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Production Association built 12 prototypes of the Su-27М / Su-35 aircraft and regularly showed these machines at air shows, waiting to receive export contracts. In 1995, the serial production of Su-35 fighters started, which resulted in only three aircraft. Due to the absence of any orders in 1997, the Su-27М / Su-35 project was closed. Some developments on this project were used to create new aircraft of the Su-27 family.

The first prototype of the Su-27М is the T-10М-1 board No.701 at the Air Force Museum in Monino, the beginning of the 1990-s (photo by Christian Waser, http://www.airwar.ru).

Modern story Su-35 aircraft began in 2005 year, when it was decided to rework the existing project and start mass production of the updated fighter. Initially, the updated version of the project was designated as Su-35BM, but later, with the beginning of serial construction, the fighters began to be called Su-35С. During the processing of the existing project, it was intended to radically upgrade the aircraft’s electronic equipment and bring its capabilities to the level of the “4 ++” generation. In addition, the project used some elements and developments characteristic of the next generation of fighters.

By design, the Su-35C is a typical member of the Su-27 aircraft family. Glider new aircraft was made on the basis of the previous project, but has undergone some changes. First of all, it is necessary to note the strengthening of the glider, carried out with the aim of increasing its resource. According to reports, the life of the airframe is 6000 hours, which will allow the fighter to operate for 30 years. Some airframe units of the Su-35S differ from the corresponding parts of both the Su-27 and the Su-35 of the first version. During the creation of the Su-35BM / Su-35 project, the designers of the Sukhoi company changed some details of the fuselage, wing and tail assembly. So, Su-35С has a vertical tail that differs from the keels of previous machines. In addition, the new fighter lost the brake flap on the upper side of the fuselage. As an air brake, the keels synchronously deflected to the outside are now used.

The first prototype of the original KnAAPO assembly is T-10М-3 / Su-35 board No.703 at the MAKS-1995 air show, Ramenskoye, August 1995 (photo - Maxim Bryansky, http://www.foxbat.ru/).

Su-35S aircraft are equipped with two AL-41F1С TRDDFs developed by NPO Saturn. These engines are capable of developing an afterburner thrust of up to 14500 kgf, and are also equipped with a thrust vector control system. This gives the aircraft high flight and maneuverability characteristics. In addition, for powering a number of systems, the aircraft is equipped with an auxiliary gas turbine powerplant TA14-130-35 with a power of 105 kW. The engines AL-41F1С provide the aircraft with high thrust-to-hand ratio. With a normal take-off weight around 25,3-25,5 tons, the value of thrust-to-weight ratio exceeds 1,1. In the case of maximum take-off weight (34,5 t), this parameter is reduced to 0,76.

With such indicators, the Su-35С aircraft has high flight characteristics. It is capable of speeds up to 2500 km / h at altitude and 1400 km / h from the ground. During the tests, it was established that a fighter without acceleration can accelerate to speeds above 1300 km / h. Su-35С has a practical ceiling of at least 18 km and a maximum range with outboard fuel tanks about 4500 kilometers.

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Su-35С is equipped with a modern complex of radio-electronic equipment, which includes the newest developments of the respective enterprises. The basis of the avionics complex is a radar with a passive phased antenna array H035 "Irbis", created by the Research Institute of Instrument Engineering named after V.V. Tikhomirov. The antenna array of this station consists of 1772 modules, which ensures operation in several modes: target detection and tracking, as well as terrain mapping. Depending on the parameters of the target, the 035 Irbis radar can find it at a distance of up to 400 km. The radar is capable of tracking up to 30 airborne and 4 ground targets, or providing 8 airborne attacks and ground 2 targets.

In addition to the radar, the Su-35S aircraft received an OLS-35 optical-location station. This station can detect targets in the optical and thermal imaging ranges. In addition, the OLS-35 has a laser range finder. According to reports, the optical-location station is able to find aircraft that do not use an afterburner, at distances up to 90 km, depending on the relative position of the fighter and the target. The maximum range, which can be measured using a laser rangefinder, reaches 30 kilometers. Station OLS-35 can simultaneously accompany up to four targets.

Like the previous aircraft of the Su-27 family, the new Su-35C is equipped with an electric remote control system. Also, the fighter’s electronic equipment includes active jamming equipment.

Su-35 GOZ-2012 aircraft onboard 09 red at Shagol / Chelyabinsk airbase during the haul from KnAAPO, February 8 2013 (photo - ilius, http://forum.keypublishing.com).

The built-in armament of the Su-35C fighter consists of one 30-mm automatic gun GSH-30-1 with 150 ammunition shells. Rockets and bombs are suspended on pylons under the wing and fuselage. 8 suspension points are located under the wing, 4 more - under the fuselage. At all nodes of the external suspension, the aircraft can carry several types of air-to-air missiles. Guided and unguided air-to-surface missiles can only be suspended on six nodes. Also, to defeat ground targets, it is proposed to use adjustable and unguided bombs of various calibers.

In the summer of 2007, the assembly of the first prototype of the Su-35BM / Su-35C aircraft was completed. 19 February next year, this fighter for the first time flew into the air under the control of test pilot S. Bogdan. In total, three flight prototypes were built, but only two of them participated in the trials. In April, 2009, the third prototype crashed during a speedy run. The cause of the incident was the failure of the engine management system.

Su-35 board No. 04 red with X-31 missiles in Ramenskoye, February 2013 (photo - Vyacheslav Babaevsky, http://russianplanes.net).

In August 2009 of the year, during the MAKS-2009 air show, the Ministry of Defense and the United Aircraft Corporation signed a contract to supply 48 Su-35C fighters up to 2015. Work on the implementation of the order of the military began a few months after signing the contract, in the autumn of 2009. The first serial fighter took off in early May 2011. In August of the same year, two prototypes and the first production aircraft were transferred to the 929 State Air Force Flight Test Center for conducting state joint tests. Already the first stage of testing confirmed the declared characteristics of the aircraft.

By now, including prototypes, no more than 12-15 Su-35C fighters have been built. In August of this year, there were reports that this fall the Air Force will receive 12 new aircraft. New fighters will go to serve at Dzemgi air base (Komsomolsk-on-Amur). According to various estimates, up to eight fighters are currently at various stages of production. Probably, they will go on tests and will be transferred to the air force only next year.

Su-35C serial No.01-06. KnAAPO Dzemgi airfield, Komsomolsk-on-Amur, publication 06.12.2012 (http://www.knaapo.ru).

Specific data on the characteristics and combat capabilities of the new Su-35C fighter for obvious reasons are not available. However, already published information allows us to make some assumptions. The latest domestic airborne electronic equipment will allow the aircraft to efficiently find and attack airborne or ground targets. High flight data also have a positive impact on the combat potential of the fighter. Often there are estimates that the Su-35S can be compared with a number of parameters in comparison with the T-50 fighter currently under test. It is difficult to say how much such estimates correspond to reality, since a large amount of information about these projects is classified.

Regardless of the results of the comparison of the Su-35C fighter with the newest T-50, one can speak of the superiority of the first over the aircraft available in the troops. The difficult situation of the past years, due to which the air force has relatively old equipment, has had an impact on the potential of military aviation. In this case, the production and supply of the newest 48 aircraft will have a positive impact on the state of the air force. It should be noted that the Su-35С is not the only new type of fighter designed to increase the potential of the Russian Air Force. In 2012, two contracts were signed for the supply of X-NUMX Su-60CM and 30 Su-16М30 aircraft. Thus, if all the existing contracts and plans are fulfilled, by the end of this decade, the domestic air force will receive 2 Su-96С and 35 Su-76 fighters of several modifications.

Su-35 board no. 06 red serial No. 01-05. KnAAPO Dzemgi airfield, Komsomolsk-on-Amur, publication 06.12.2012 (http://www.knaapo.ru).

By the time the contracts for the supply of Su-35S and Su-30 are completed, the domestic aviation industry should master the mass production of new T-50, which will optimize the transition to the construction and operation of fifth-generation fighter jets. In this case, for a long time, Su-35C, having a resource of about 30 years, will serve along with the new T-50. Thus, in the coming decades, the Russian Air Force will use fighter jets of the 4 ++ and 5 generations, which should have an impact on the state of front-line aviation in general.

Su-35 board No. 07 red at the Le Bourget Air Show, 17-23 June 2013 (photo - Marina Lystseva, http://fotografersha.livejournal.com).

On the materials of the sites:
http://airwar.ru/
http://knaapo.ru/
http://ria.ru/
http://interfax.ru/
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-533.html

Comments

[Predator-74]

I am not a combat pilot, but I think that this machine is at least not inferior to the most modern foreign innovations, so absolutely nothing bad will happen if the "drying" will join the ranks of the Russian Air Force, especially since they have such a large resource.

[RussianRu]

I’m not a combat pilot, but I think that this machine is at least as good as the most modern foreign innovations,

At the Pacific Vision-2008 secret exercises held in August at the US Hickem air base, virtual computer battles took place between the American F-35 fighter and the Russian Su-35.

In virtual battles, the Russian fighter defeated the fifth-generation American fighter. The exercises were attended by a representative of the Australian military, which made the victory of Russian weapons in the press. http://forum.free-ro.ru/threads/20372/

[stoqn477]

I think the comparison between the Su-35 and the F-35 is a bit unfair. Firstly, aircraft of different generations, the fact that the Su-35 is currently in production does not mean this is a fifth-generation aircraft, simply expired modernization of the Su-27. Secondly, the F-35 is the successor to the F-16 and should be compared to the successor to the MiG-29. The common thing between the two aircraft is that both machines are now operational. But they differ fundamentally in concept.

[Follow us]

During a full-time meeting in the sky, no one will scatter about classes and concepts. I saw the enemy - hit.

[StolzSS]

In combat clashes, you will also compare, or how ????

[RussianRu]

The choice in comparison of cars was made by the Americans themselves. They probably wanted to win, but it turned out the other way around. SU-35 is not an 5 generation aircraft, but 4 +

[vovanbesmert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LxhLMiRklQ#t=70 я думаю манёвренность наших истребителей сводиться на нет вот из-за этой херовины !

[Avenger711]

And what's the difference who is whose successor, when in 10-15 years no F-16s can remain and all the tasks of the F-35 (it is in the F-15 class, actually by weight) will have to drag almost one.

[vadson]

by weight, then he can and in the current class he has one engine and not two

[Avenger711]

And what? They consider traction, not motors. One engine, for example, gives a higher angular roll speed and is clearly advantageous in terms of weight, because there should be some systems on each engine that are the same for at least a large engine, even a small one.
Even in terms of accident, a single-engine aircraft is not much more dangerous, because there are 100500 causes of accidents that are independent of the engine and landing on a single engine m / b is in itself unsafe.

[patsantre]

They were compared only in close maneuver combat, where the Su-35 horseradish is more clear. Yes, and even that, some of the advantages of the F-35 in avionics were not taken into account.

[vovanbesmert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LxhLMiRklQ#t=70 увы уступает,вот из-за чего :(

[Andrey Yuryevich]

all the same, our planes are the most beautiful! a beautiful samlet flies beautifully

[air wolf]

And I am a former "combat" pilot, I will tell you the following, the Su-27 and MiG-29 airframes are so tired that you can't even imagine whether the PAK FA or T-50 was created using the same technologies, the same thing. Therefore, you don't need to spend people's money and simply upgrade the Su-27, 35 with T-50 developments, stealth coverage, avionics, etc. And in general, stealth aircraft are not so much needed. About 100 of them will be enough for the Russian Federation. It is more important to modernize electronic warfare equipment.

[Avenger711]

Flying from the roof to the attic is called ...

[pawel1961]

what pilot are you ???

[vovanbesmert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LxhLMiRklQ#t=70 увы уступает вот из-за этого !

[Stiletto]

More and those, and other birds! (Doctor, give, give me pills for greed! And more, more !! "!! )

[Walker1975]

Beautiful car. You will not say anything

[LaGlobal]

Many thanks to the author - Cyril! I liked the article, especially the comparative characteristics. Because I'm not friends with airplanes =))

[1712]

Good aircraft, with good performance characteristics. He definitely has a future.

[Tektor]

Only the list of performance characteristics is not complete. And from such a list, conclusions may be false. For example, there is no parameter "effective reflection area" of a radio signal, or the possibility of covert communication (with a satellite), or situational awareness in real time ... Therefore, the Australians assume that after a meeting of 12 at 12 F22 and Su35, an average of 8 F22 will remain.

[Chervonets]

In my opinion for the super megapuperraptor ugly statistics.
So 12 on 12 F-22 and Su50 will remain an average of 8 Su50

[APES]

all is well, only the bias towards heavy fighters is incomprehensible. How will we gain air supremacy?
The desired ratio of light fighter aircraft (MIG-29) and heavy (all Su and T-50) should be 70% by 30%. dry untwist, and what is happening with the Mig, compare.

[klimpopov]

And discussed already. In the best case, the upgraded Mig-29 or simply even overhauled. Mig-35 only in dreams. Pogo unwinds its interests, the state has a roof for it. The feeling is that our Air Force Dryers are supplied solely for advertising and not for defense purposes, they say, look and buy yourself.
I can just come up with an explanation "Mig - 29 does not fit into the concept of modern air combat"
But let's not talk about sad things. Su - 35s a great plane! Yes, and literate. Thanks to the author!

[Genry]

Quote: APES

How will we gain air supremacy?

In order to escort the bombers and gain dominance for them, this heavyweight with a long range is needed.
Above its territory, it is better to knock out all pests with rockets.
The MIG29 family is good for front-line use at short distances from closely located unpaved airfields (though the MIG35 is no longer suitable for unpaved ones, the air intake plugs have been removed).

[klimpopov]

(though MIG35 is no longer suitable for unpaved ones, they removed the air intake plugs).

And in vain in my opinion.

[Genry]

Quote: klimpopov

And in vain in my opinion.

Yes!
There will be nothing to base with attack aircraft and cover them.

[Avenger711]

Who said what should be? In the EU, there are no heavy fighters in general.
MiG in the 90s had no serious export, where did he get the money for fine-tuning?

[Just Vasilich]

Avenger711: where did he get the money for fine-tuning?

The debugging is already embodied in the MiG-35. Everything rests on a political decision, and there is an ambush in the person of Poghosyan.

And the 35 MiGs are really needed as lighter, cheaper and more massive fighters. The tandem heavy-light fighter has long been justified.

[Avenger711]

You’ve already got a little mane with Poghosyan. And how cheap the MiG-35 is is still a question, in the Far East, or on the northern borders, it definitely doesn’t have anything to do with it, not that range. Large needs for infrastructure and the number of cars can negate the gain in price.

[Russ69]

Quote: Just Vasilich

And the 35th MiGs are really needed as lighter, cheaper and more massive fighters

The fact that he is needed, no one is against. But cheaper, a moot point. It seems more lard rubles.

And how cheap is the MiG-35

That's right.

[lazy]

and the fact that he had failed the export tenders, and the Algerians returned the 29th guilty too? it seems like a twinkle on the criterion of price quality is completely losing and not only dry, they need something new to develop can be in contact with KB Yakovlev and their achievements on 141

[Bad_gr]

".... RSK MiG was named the winner of the second Aircraft Builder of the Year contest in the nomination For Successful Execution of a State (including Defense) Order. Also, the MiG corporation was awarded the third place in the Best Innovative Project nomination, the corporation's press service reported ..... "
More: http://vpk-news.ru/news/18047

[olegff68]

The comparison picture with F22 is not entirely correct.
With Su35S, the front horizontal plumage was removed as unnecessary.

[Jet]

I notice that on this and other sites, on the Su-35 circuits, for some reason horizontal plumage is constantly present! is this a way of misinformation?)))

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Jet

I notice that on this and other sites, on the Su-35 circuits, for some reason horizontal plumage is constantly present! is this a way of misinformation?)))

The very first Su-35s were with PGO, then a branch of the Su-37 appeared, again with PGO. And only then the plane appeared, for which it was decided to keep the name "Su-35" but it has more of the Su-37 than the old Su-35. By the way, the Su-37 already had a different body + the use of new alloys, the new Su-35 again had a new body, a large use of new alloys, carbon fiber and removed the front tail and the upper brake flap. The Su-35s engines differ from those that are now on the PAKFA only by the engine control systems (on the PAKFA it is completely digital, on the Su-35s it is digital-analog). I came across information that in the future, the Su-35s will have engines the same as those on PAKFA.

[Avenger711]

Yes, damn it, what do you write garbage? Su-37 is one of the Su-27M with engines with OVT, that's all the differences.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Avenger711

Yes, damn it, what do you write garbage? Su-37 is one of the Su-27M with engines with OVT, that's all the differences.

Before zvizdet, read at least something about the Su-37. At least here
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/su37.html
. And on other sites similar information:

"... Unlike the serial T-10S, the experimental T-10M-11 fighter was equipped with a digital (and not analog, as before) fly-by-wire control system (EDSU) of the aircraft. It was made four times redundant in the longitudinal channel and three times redundant in the side channels To increase reliability, all EDSU computers operate in parallel ...
.... The aircraft is made according to the "unstable integral triplane" scheme, which combines the normal aerodynamic configuration with the forward horizontal tail. The airframe design is generally similar to the Su-27, however, when creating the Su-35/37, new aluminum-lithium alloys were used, and the use of composite materials was significantly expanded. A new wing with an increased relative thickness has been developed for the aircraft, allowing to accommodate a larger volume of fuel ...
... Compared to the Su-27, the height and chord of the vertical tail of the fighter are slightly increased. Caissons of keels made of carbon fiber are also used as fuel tanks. The landing gear struts are reinforced (due to the increased take-off mass of the aircraft), the nose support is equipped with two wheels. Two external suspension units were added under the wing (their total number was brought to 14), which made it possible to increase the weight of weapons from 6000 to 8000 kg. The aircraft is equipped with an ejection seat KD-36DM with a backrest angle of 30 °. Compared with the Su-27, the oxygen supply has been increased, containers with a supply of food and water have been installed, as well as a waste disposal device .....
... Serial fighter Su-37 is supposed to be equipped with advanced engines AL-37FP (2 x 14500 kgs), which are a further development of the turbofan AL-31. In TRDTSF provided cooling of the rotary part of the nozzle in full afterburner mode and the maximum angle of rotation. Aviation fuel was used as a working fluid in hydraulic cylinders. ....
.... Compared to the Su-27, new electric generators and hydraulic pumps are installed. A Su-37 aircraft has a lateral low-speed control knob and a fixed strain-gauge ore .....
.... The Su-37 is equipped with a complex including a pulse-Doppler radar with a stationary phased antenna array and rear-view radar. The advanced optoelectronic sighting system of the fighter includes a thermal imager combined with a laser rangefinder-target designator. Detection, recognition and automatic tracking of several long-range air targets at the same time is provided. The optical-location system is combined with radar and an improved helmet-mounted pilot sight in a single complex. The aircraft is equipped with an automatic protected target data exchange system, which allows better coordination of the actions of several fighters conducting a group battle. The defense complex includes optical warning sensors about attacking enemy missiles, a new generation radio intelligence station, active suppression systems operating in the optical and radar ranges, as well as means for setting passive radar and infrared interference .....

[vm68dm]

front horizontal plumage removed. To reduce the EPR + special coverage. If the Su27 EPR had about 15-10 KV / M like the F12, then the Su35 had it like the last modes. f16 that is, somewhere 1,2 KV / M

[Avenger711]

PGO is evil. Any crap that protrudes beyond the dimensions gives resistance, which means it is evil. Therefore, PGO is used only where the pros outweigh the minuses (the Su-34 does not shake at low altitude), or when it is an inevitable evil. On the Su-27M PGO was an inevitable evil, with the advent of engines with OBT and improved manageability, it became possible to do without it.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Avenger711

PGO is evil.

Su-37
".... The horizontal tail is a differentially deflected stabilizer, each console of which has its own high-speed electro-hydraulic drive. The PGO is included in the general digital fly-by-wire control system of the aircraft and is capable of deflecting in the angular range of -50 / + 10 *. In addition to improving stability and control characteristics at high angles of attack (in particular, on the Su-35/37 it was almost completely possible to eliminate the shaking, which greatly complicates the piloting and aiming of other types of fighters in similar modes), the PGO also performs a number of other important functions. aircraft, which leads to a significant decrease in static stability.

By means of PGO, it is possible to control the degree of aircraft instability, which varies depending on the load on the external hardpoints. When flying at low altitude in a turbulent atmosphere, the PGO is an active and passive damper of longitudinal vibrations and shaking, which increases flight safety, reduces the load on the glider and increases comfort, and, consequently, the combat capability of the pilot in turbulent conditions. Aerodynamic improvements applied on the aircraft made it possible to reduce the loads on the fuselage and wing roots, which, in turn, ensured the achievement of a steady-state overload of 10 units. without strengthening the airframe structure (the maximum steady-state overload achieved on other types of fighters does not currently exceed 9 units) .... "

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: APES

and what is going on with Mig, compare.

And what's going on in a moment? The work on the Skat UAV has been sunk, there is no order for the construction of new MiG-29-35, Indian orders and domestic shipbuilding ones have helped a little.
Mock up PAK FA from Miga

[APOCALIPTIC]

Mock-up PAK FA from Mig [/ quote]

something this is the layout of the F-22 sorties, just remove the stars

[klimpopov]

Yes, yes, of course we did it, because we always do this ...
And Tu-160 sketched and indeed EVERYTHING.
It is said a thousand times, the external similarity of the aircraft is dictated and obtained due to similar tasks and problems that need to be addressed ... Is F - 35 just a development of the USA? Tom guesses a lot of things from the well-known aircraft ...

[Dusk]

According to your logic, the Chinese themselves do everything with them, purely random copies are obtained ...

[klimpopov]

Copy and direction of development is different. Spying on each other's everything!

[Nitup]

Quote: klimpopov

Yes, yes, of course, copied

This remark APOCALYTICS is true, because the picture shows exactly F-22, I doubt that this is a MiG project

[Just Vasilich]

Nitup: the picture shows exactly F-22, I doubt that this is a MiG project

I do not agree. Don't know a hundredиWhether there is any real MiG study behind this picture (at least in the form of a draft design), but this airplane differs from the Raptor not only in identification marks:

- more pronounced fuselage-wing integrated circuit
- the nose fits organically into the integrated circuit due to its flatness, similar to the type of the Su-34.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Nitup

This remark APOCALYTICS is true, because the picture shows exactly F-22, I doubt that this is a MiG project

Somehow you changed in the face immediately and did not recognize.
http://www.paralay.com/pakfamig.html

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: APOCALIPTIC

something this is the layout of the F-22 sorties, just remove the stars

Yes, there is a certain similarity, but as the Americans say, the aerodynamic laws are the same for everyone. The perspective is interesting.

[aszzz888]

Su-35 board №07 red, Ramenskoye, no later than August 25 2013 (photo - Vladimir Petrov, http://russianplanes.net/id117273).

Well, it’s good not to fly such beauties! It’s just that nature itself (and the designers of course) laid the superiority over ALL others like them. Just like that, because they are FIRST IN ALL!

[USNik]

Quote: Genry

Quote: klimpopov

And in vain in my opinion.

Yes!
There will be nothing to base with attack aircraft and cover them.

A combat training Yak-130 will be able to use air-to-air missiles? If so, then this is an inexpensive but inferior replacement for Migam.

[klimpopov]

Now the Yak - 130 plug in all holes (I do not beg the capabilities of this aircraft). And they want to adapt it to the attack ..

[Genry]

Quote: USNik

A combat training Yak-130 will be able to use air-to-air missiles? If so, then this is an inexpensive but inferior replacement for Migam.

Well, for study, he can launch rockets.
But he is more training than fighting. Too small, slow, closer to the attack aircraft.
For "today" it cannot be equipped with sufficient radar, anti-missile self-defense.

[Botanologist]

Quote: USNik

If so, then this is an inexpensive but inferior replacement for Migam.

How will he use rockets without a radar? Well, only if NURami shoots back

[Thunderbolt]

NURS, the entrance to the air defense zone, on the Yak-130 .., and we still have the Yak-52. Let them learn to fly on it, especially since it’s good as a training aircraft. And attack aircraft should storm it.

[lazy]

as far as I know Nurses are no longer left only NARS

[Avenger711]

Because there’s nowhere to go, you need to change the old trash, and here formally the serial cars go to FACE. The loss of the side 04 (it was beautiful, by the way) was a rather ridiculous case, it was just that someone had to be planted for sabotage (there was a minor problem), you look and other cars will fall less often.
A huge plus here is that the project itself carries minimal technical risk.

[Avenger711]

And where can I read? And then they may have stupidly conveyed a list of deficiencies for elimination, as usual. After a couple of months, the question was closed, changes were made and the process goes on.

[MIX58]

As Comrade Tupolev said: "A beautiful plane and flies beautifully!"
I am not special and I will not compare TTX ..... but the beauty of the glider ..... in short "penguin" ..... in a deep anus ..... (although in battle like in boxing ... I was rooting for Povetkin, but I put the money on Klyachko ...) Will "Drying" win in a real battle "penguin" ?????? Question to the experts --- educate from the point of view of SPECIALISTS .. :)

[stoqn477]

Quote: MIC58

As Comrade Tupolev said: "A beautiful plane and flies beautifully!"

Terrible planes were able to fly just as well. F-117, for example, is bad for him that the neighbors west of us (the Serbs) did not understand that it was invisible ... it turned out that they saw the invisible ....

[Genry]

Quote: MIC58

Will Drying beat the Penguin in real combat?

The question should be posed somewhat differently. Will DRY interfere with the task F35.
If the F35 quietly crawls past the SU35, it will remain alive and can complete its task. If it "lights up" (any launch gives a mark on the radar), then the SU35 will break it, despite the surprise of the attack.

[MIX58]

Quote: Genry

If it "lights up" (any launch gives a mark on the radar), then the SU35 will break it, despite the surprise of the attack.

So I noted - everything was like in boxing - I was rooting for Povetkin .. but I put the money on Klyachko ... In battle, everything was like in a battle ... The Cossack crawled unnoticed by the Cossack .... and then .... truncated karachun ... to the whole trench ... :)

[SkyMaXX]

Su-35, I think this is the best fourth-generation aircraft in the world. There is nothing to upgrade. Next is only the fifth generation.

[Evrepid]

There is always something to upgrade.
The engines are even more powerful, the locator is faster and more forward-looking, the missiles are smaller, but with a more powerful warhead, etc. .. and how to forget the more protected capsule for the pilot!

And the plane itself is not very bad!

[Imigrantt]

All this is beautiful !!! But the little question is why the new MIGs got tricked in !!! The car is not worse !!! Lobby is not in favor of Mikoyan ?! When is it over !! Drying is excellent but MIG IS NOT WORSE !!!!

[Genry]

For MIGs they will make a serial engine with OBT and ...
For the aircraft you need a lot of new small-sized equipment, otherwise it does not correspond ....

[Russ69]

Quote: Imigrantt

All this is beautiful !!! But the little question is why the new MIGs got tricked in !!! The car is not worse !!! Lobby is not in favor of Mikoyan ?! When is it over !! Drying is excellent but MIG IS NOT WORSE !!!!

The industry is not ready for serial production. From rearmament plans, no one has removed it yet.

[Brother]

Beautiful bird

[admrall]

the pace of production is not impressive at all, constant delays when it ends

[MIX58]

Quote: admrall

the pace of production is not impressive at all, constant delays when it ends

..... then, when the Russian government and the country itself will emerge from colonial dependence ... and will cease to be puppets of the Faitington regional committee .. Will we survive ???

[Avenger711]

What are damn delays? In 2011-2012, everything went according to plan. The pace of the squadron per year in modern conditions, when circulations are small, in principle, not bad.

[SPLV]

Question to the experts. Tell me, why is the radiation hazard sign on the radar fairing near an airplane of the Shagol air base? In other photos I have not seen this.

[Avenger711]

Do you think the emitter there is like a CRT monitor in power?

[Manul]

Breathtaking - what a handsome man! A masterpiece ..

[Avenger711]

I once wrote about this, but again I’ve wanged, it’s the Su-35 and Su-30 that will be the basis of the Air Force of the year until at least 2030, the T-50 is unlikely to seriously squeeze them into air defense, and the MiG-29 family at the cover of large spaces will require more cars and more infrastructure.

[saag]

Well, a great replacement for the Mig-31

[aleshka1987]

Specialists, how are things with avionics and missile weapons, is there progress?

[Andranik]

just on the topic without comment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VOFdXO929Q see the link

[e3tozy]

The plane is super! Respect for the article and aircraft manufacturers! Let's hope that the troops will include Sukhoi and MiGari, and attack aircraft too. I hope In 2016 we will see serial MiG-35s, and again we will rejoice !!!

[horoh]

The article is interesting, but seriously, we need both of those cars, and in sufficient quantity !!! And you don’t need to forget about MiG !!!

[navy33]

Greetings to all! Airplane Handsome! How beautiful our submarines are, how beautiful our planes are!

[Firebox]

Umm, I don’t see much difference, maybe because I do not know much about airplanes

[roial]

The plane is good, no words, but the question is, how is the matter with its weapons ???
And the radar data is some kind of dumb 400 km against 270 ?? Looks like another fraud.

[Alikovo]

As for the radar, the su-35s is true, but the superiority of the f-22 in speed is doubtful.

[Bad_gr]

This is an old comparison table. On the manufacturer's website F-22, the characteristics have long been adjusted towards more real numbers. The maximum speed of the F-22 is not 2570, but 2100 km / h, since its air intakes for the sake of stealth technology are made unregulated.
Here in this plate the TTX is more precisely indicated:

[zinander]

This is all good, but Migi is new where?

[31231]

Maybe these ?!

[mixxlll]

Atoru "Respect", let you PR your trash, and we quietly work quietly)))

[31231]

Always envied flyers. Here our air defense workers in Nakhodka must have looked at Khryap, maybe Cracker would have looked at them there ?! How does Irbis determine Khryapu and at what range?

[Alikovo]

if the SU-35C had a stealth technology, the American machine would be given in all respects.

[Peaceful military]

But the plane is really good, so good that it can only 48 cars, will not be enough?

[Chervonets]

Quote: Russian

I’m not a combat pilot, but I think that this machine is at least as good as the most modern foreign innovations,

At the Pacific Vision-2008 secret exercises held in August at the US Hickem air base, virtual computer battles took place between the American F-35 fighter and the Russian Su-35.

In virtual battles, the Russian fighter defeated the fifth-generation American fighter. The exercises were attended by a representative of the Australian military, which made the victory of Russian weapons in the press. http://forum.free-ro.ru/threads/20372/

I would say that the Su-35 is more a generation of 5- than 4 ++, i.e. fifth generation with elements of the fourth.
But the F-35 is a 5minusminus generation, i.e. (as the Australians said) the third generation with elements of the fifth.

[Bibliographer]

I read that some experts attribute the Su-35s to the generation not 4 ++ but 5, because it is suitable for all characteristics of the fifth generation in its characteristics. And only in terms of stealth parameter it does not reach the full fifth.

[Agent 008]

Here everyone thinks that if it comes to a military conflict with someone, then new planes will fly ... Practice shows that our military rolls out all the old stuff on the battlefield, because there are few new planes and tanks, everything is at exhibitions ... God forbid, they'll be better off ... Here our SU-35 will meet nose to nose with the F-22 in battle, then we will see whose plane is cooler ... And at air shows the "skewer" in the air to twist and advertise the plane, our more love everything ...

[Agent 008]

In general, my personal opinion: all these "outstanding characteristics" are one big "scam" in the sense that, well, the "cobra" does, flies backwards ... This is all for the public! No one now flies over the enemy on a low level, they will shoot down immediately. Now it flies 50 kilometers to the target, fires high-precision missiles and flies back ... Over there, in Yugoslavia, a vaunted "Stealth" flew over a village of some sort, so local partisans almost shot it down with a Berdank! The wreckage was shown on TV ... Well, no one forbids admiring the "outstanding characteristics", it's so nice ...

[Alex 241]

Air combat in the "bell" mode (a - disruption of the Doppler tracking, disruption of the capture of the enemy radar station and escape from the attack; b - exit from the "bell" cut and the enemy attack; c - capture and defeat of the enemy).

[Alex 241]

http://scilib.narod.ru/Avia/Superman/Superman.html

[Agent 008]

And the last thing I will say: They will collect the T-50, and God forbid a military conflict with someone ... As always, the good old MIG-21 will fly to fight, and the T-50 will fly to the next exhibition in the Emirates ...

[Alex 241]

MiG-21 has long been withdrawn from service.

[Agent 008]

We have a lot of things that have been discontinued, but if necessary, there will always be in stock, and 20 will fly and drive for another years, as we usually do ... Eh, I would like your optimism ...

[Alex 241]

I am most likely a pessimist in this matter, just 21 are already history.

[Avenger711]

For example, people like you from somewhere ... In general, after the collapse of the USSR, more or less significant deliveries of aircraft began only in 2011-2012.

[Agent 008]

Quote: Alex 241

MiG-21 has long been withdrawn from service.

We have a lot of things that have been removed from service, but if necessary, there will always be in stock, and 20 will fly and ride for another years, as we usually do ... Eh, I would be optimistic ...

[lazy]

sawed and handed over to the colormet, and this is not optimism but pessimism, in a zashashnik and a berdank it can come in handy as a last resort but not

[Yuri Y.]

Quote: Agent 008

Now flies 50 kilometers to the target, produces high-precision missiles and flies back ...

To everything else, does anything really prevent Sushka from using this tactic.

[boris697]

In the drawing, where the comparative h-ki is depicted not a glider su-35 s. It is without front horizontal plumage. Correct if I am mistaken.

[Nikol]

Electronics has always been the weak point of our aircraft. And in modern combat, aerobatics, to one place.

[duchy]

At least something has moved. Go ahead. Bigger and better.

[120352]

For some, far from indisputable characteristics, the T-50 met other comparisons, maybe it is not inferior to the aircraft of our "partners" (read: a potential enemy, but easier, as they say in the troops, an adversary), but, firstly , The T-50 has not yet gone into production, and the SU-35 (with any letters) is an aircraft of the 90s, the Su-27, and there are extremely few of them to withstand something. I am afraid that in the coming (and in fact, already ongoing, but not yet in the hot phase) war, the partisan movement will not be able to be as effective as in the days of Napoleon and, moreover, Hitler. You can't fight much with Berdanks, and with the help of infrared photography, the places of concentration of the partisans are easily identified, and the partisans are destroyed with the help of infrared guidance. Including, citizen Poghosyan, start working for Russia and its defense capability. Stop building Super Rot-100 out of children's constructors and cans.