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The T-90C tank in Peru hit targets with almost 100% efficiency.

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The Russian T-90C tank demonstrated good results in Peru. weapons and operational tests. According to Defensa.com, the tank was tested in 48 km south of Lima. For firing, Rosoboronexport, with the appropriate permission, imported 56 shells of caliber 125 mm, including anti-tank missiles, into the country.


On the first day of testing, the weather conditions were complicated by heavy rain and thick fog - typical of the coast of Peru. All this limited the use of the 1-X46 optical sight, which could "see" at a distance of no more than 300-350 meters. Therefore, shooting at a distance from 2000 to 2500 m was carried out using an Essa thermal sight.

On the other two days, the weather conditions were optimal, which allowed the T-90С to shoot from the movement and parking at targets located at a distance from 1600 to 3000 m.

T-90 X made a total of 38 rounds with a 125 caliber mm (16 3VBM17 (BPS -T), 12 3VBK, 16 (HEAT-FS) and 10 3VOF36 (HE-FRAG)), HE-FRAG), -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HNUMX (HEAT-FS) and 94,7 XNUMXVOFXNUMX (HE-FRAG), -HE-FRAG), -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG

In addition to the firepower, T-90С showed its maneuverability and mobility in the conditions of mountain-desert terrain, smoothly overcoming natural obstacles: ravines, craters and hills with an angle from 25 ° to 30 °. More than 130 km was completed.

In test trials, the Russian tank participated together with the T-55 of the Peruvian army. Of course, the superiority of the new Tagil machine over a tankThe veteran was overwhelming.

Interesting fact: the mechanic-driver of the T-55 tank, having passed the 15-minute training, began to maneuver smoothly on the T-90С along the "Bone Cruz" range. This fact demonstrated the simplicity of mastering the Russian tank.

The T-90C tank in Peru hit targets with almost 100% efficiency.








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  1. svp67
    svp67 16 October 2013 11: 25
    29
    According to Defensa.com, the tank was tested 48 km south of Lima. For firing purposes, Rosoboronexport, after an appropriate permit, imported 56 rounds of 125 mm caliber into the country, including anti-tank missiles.
    I really hope that after this there will be news about the signing of a procurement contract ...
    1. alone
      alone 16 October 2013 11: 27
      21
      T-90s is a good tank. I think the pen must sign a contract. Moreover, they test it on the spot
      1. 31231
        31231 16 October 2013 11: 38
        +5
        So yours decided to buy it.
        1. alone
          alone 16 October 2013 12: 26
          +9
          already bought 94 pieces and there is an option for the same amount.
          1. AVV
            AVV 16 October 2013 16: 47
            +5
            The armor is strong and our tanks are fast !!!
          2. tolyasik0577
            tolyasik0577 16 October 2013 17: 14
            +2
            and where are you so many ?. belay
            1. crazyrom
              crazyrom 17 October 2013 21: 54
              0
              how to where? And who will defend us if one spoils Syria and Iran? You look at the map, the next in line are our Central Asian republics. So they need to be well equipped.
        2. LaGlobal
          LaGlobal 16 October 2013 12: 27
          0
          And ours still can’t be delivered in a decent amount. India has 1500 tanks coming soon. And with us, miserable 2-3 hundreds typed = (((
          Correct if not right!
          1. Troitsky
            Troitsky 16 October 2013 12: 56
            +9
            I can't provide proof, but it seems like we have about 600 of them. We completely abandoned the purchase of a tank for our own troops in the hope of an early production of a tank based on the Armata platform.
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 16 October 2013 15: 59
              +4
              I answered a little lower - only 520 units
          2. Samminosh
            Samminosh 16 October 2013 13: 20
            +1
            800 tashchemto
          3. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 16 October 2013 15: 55
            +4
            T-90 (K, A, AK) 400 units of T-90A (AK) and ~ 120 T-90 (K) - total 520 units.
      2. Vittt
        Vittt 16 October 2013 17: 29
        10
        And not so long ago, some kind of "star" with the letter "p" from the Russian Ministry of Defense (deputy under Serdyukov) wanted to buy "Leopards" (moreover, for one Russian - three German ones: almost like Kartsev's - small three, well very large - five each).
        1. mikkado31
          mikkado31 16 October 2013 19: 29
          -18 qualifying.
          This one, as you say ... for a moment, the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces Alexander Postnikov. Perhaps he understands technology better than yours.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 16 October 2013 19: 41
            +8
            Quote: mikkado31
            This one, as you say ... for a moment, the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces Alexander Postnikov. Perhaps he understands technology better than yours.

            What he certainly understands is the intricacies of schemes for lobbying someone else’s weapons. Such a silent betrayal of the native defense industry
            1. Arti
              Arti 16 October 2013 23: 55
              -10 qualifying.
              I think you judge one-sidedly, by no means do I support the purchase of German tanks, but the fact that they are better is a fact (I am silent about the price, because there are no world wars of type 2, the main thing is not that the country has more tanks, the main thing is that they are in the right place at the right time - and here the technical characteristics and crew skills, and not the cost, comes first.

              But I was distracted - the meaning of the proposal for the purchase of German leopards could be to spur Russian manufacturers, to be honest, I can not imagine that German tanks were bought in Russia, this could not be a serious proposal from the very beginning, because the tanks need to be serviced. Now even the T-80 is being removed for the sake of unification, the appearance of German tanks in the Russian army would have resulted in enormous costs
              1. barbiturate
                barbiturate 17 October 2013 03: 33
                +5
                So you have the fact that German tanks are better, and who confirms this fact and where it comes from? The same Postnikov changed his surname from Streltsov, after marrying the daughter of an army general and quickly and quickly flew upstairs, the fact that he understands military equipment is not at all a fact.
              2. avdkrd
                avdkrd 17 October 2013 04: 34
                15
                sorry, but what exactly is better than German tanks, since when is this a fact? Better what, what exactly is the modification of the t-90, and actually which German tanks? The Germans are armed with various modifications, but to compare correctly the same age. Without engaging in cap-making, I can argue, on the basis of a simple analysis, that the m 90 surpasses all its competitors in combat characteristics. In terms of armor protection, the leopard is clearly not a competitor (if you take block 5 (6)) and T-90s, and in armor protection and weapon efficiency, the t-90 will surpass the competitor, each of them has advantages and disadvantages, but the leopard loses in terms of the combination of technical characteristics. When the main gun is approximately equal in power to the leopard, there is no automatic loader, and in battle this factor will not be a significant factor by will. Many fans of the Western school of tank building cite finger-sucked data on the best protection of bourgeois tanks due to the absence of just an automatic loader and supposedly the absence of shells in the fighting compartment. Prevent such conversations in advance, since the same leopard has 27 shots in the control compartment (near the driver) and only 15 in the ammunition in the tower niche. The much larger dimensions, mass and a lot of weakened zones make the leopard a more convenient target, plus moving the tank over significant distances present much higher infrastructure requirements (roads, bridges, tractors). If we consider these tanks exactly as the main battle tanks, that is, tanks intended for a real war, where difficulties and interruptions with fuel and lubricants and just problems with specialized maintenance and repair are possible, then a lot falls into place. Can you imagine how many Leopards (of any modification) would remain in service in Syria, in the current situation of an actual blockade? Tanks are made just for war (God forbid we can do without World War 3) and production technology (simplicity if you want) combined with effective solutions and low cost play no less role than performance characteristics, especially since performance characteristics of the performance characteristics of the TT90 are all right. having inherited the relative simplicity and reliability of the t72 in fact, the t-90 is able to compete with any peer. The problems with the 90 are not in the technical specifications, but in the configuration ordered by the Ministry of Defense. Even modernization is not done to radically improve the performance of the machine, but to meet budget. But this aspect is not subject to comparison.
              3. ksan
                ksan 22 October 2013 22: 39
                +1
                Arti RU October 16, 2013 23:55 ↑ But I was distracted - the meaning of the proposal for the purchase of German leopards could be to spur Russian producers
                You turned it over - "spur" it by taking money belay This despite the fact that the Leopard will cost 3-4 times more expensive with dubious advantages. To bury the domestic tank building and give money for development to the NATO country, if this is not a joke then a betrayal. hi
          2. edge
            edge 17 October 2013 05: 49
            +4
            Quote: mikkado31
            Alexander Postnikov. Perhaps he knows better than your technique

            I don’t know where the SUV is from. I had a battalion commander who, having reached the lieutenant colonel, left the army for only 3 months, taking into account the 3rd year internship (battalion for providing the academic process), but graduated from the college with honors .. ...
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 16 October 2013 12: 09
      +3
      I would like to wish good luck!
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 October 2013 12: 39
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      I really hope that after this there will be news about the signing of a procurement contract ...

      What kind of hope do you have if we ourselves would buy it for ourselves, then I would understand you, and then again to someone.
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 16 October 2013 13: 41
      27
      a sense of pride for our (mine) Ural, of course, but there’s a precipitate from the fact that we’re 72, and they’re 90s ... it’s a shame to infect ...
      1. bistrov.
        bistrov. 16 October 2013 14: 47
        23
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        sediment from the fact that we are -72 ... and they 90s ... insulting infection ...

        Duc currency is needed. New technologies are needed, the machine stock needs to be changed, etc. Without this in any way. Again, we are expanding the circle of our clients, for a long time we are binding them to us. A very reasonable policy.
      2. e3tozy
        e3tozy 16 October 2013 16: 49
        +7
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        a sense of pride for our (mine) Ural, of course, but there’s a precipitate from the fact that we’re 72, and they’re 90s ... it’s a shame to infect ...

        Absolutely agree! If the T-90, this is the modernization of the T-72, then let it be the T-90MS. And if Armata is suitable, then we will have the best, and absolutely the best! FOR TANKbuilders A COMPLETE RESPECT!
      3. bask
        bask 16 October 2013 17: 25
        +7
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        a sense of pride for our (mine) Ural, of course, but there’s a precipitate from the fact that we’re 72, and they’re 90s ... it’s a shame to infect ...

        This is the main idea.
        The army of the USSR was equipped with the latest models of armored vehicles.
        Simplified modifications were sold to friends and Finns, and not one T-64, T-80 (only with humpbacked Yu. Koryts-amers sold, but it's just a betrayal).
        And now with the shit, on the contrary, for the hill the newest with the coolest equipment, we are the armies of RUSSIA, sekhenhand and economy ... modification ...
        Pike, one word, and the evil Andrei Yurievich just takes (by the way, you're full of my namesake).
        1. timer
          timer 16 October 2013 19: 18
          +3
          I agree with bask. we’re driving the best samples abroad, and the Russian army is like a poor relative. I understand that it’s necessary to develop sales markets and win tenders, but I don’t understand any kind of disagreement in the supply of arms to our army (for example, if the aircraft goes to the troops more - less modern, then the ground forces are equipped with outdated tanks). Where is the uniform distribution of resources depending on the main priorities? unclear.
          1. Rider
            Rider 21 October 2013 22: 52
            +1
            Quote: timer
            Where is the uniform distribution of resources depending on the main priorities? unclear.


            and this is uniformity.
            if we lose the battle for air, then there’s no special difference what will be burned from above.
            from this we must first saturate the Air Force and Air Defense.

            and on tanks, we are waiting for Armata.
            not long left.
          2. ksan
            ksan 22 October 2013 22: 57
            0
            timer RU October 16, 2013 19:18 ↑

            I agree with bask. we drive abroad the best samples to everyone, and the Russian army as a poor relative
            Well, according to the rearmament program, that "poor relative" cannot be said so. And they have stopped buying T-90s for the Russian army, they are waiting for the "Armata".
            Where is the uniform distribution of resources depending on the main priorities? unclear
            Is the "main priority" the upgraded T-72 ?? It seems to me that the main priority is so that no one in the world thinks about the inevitability of a strike "incompatible with life" and does not themselves receive such a blow, and this is strategic nuclear forces, missile defense and air defense.
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 17 October 2013 09: 58
          +2
          well hello namesake! pleased to meet you))))) drinks
    5. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 16 October 2013 13: 43
      +9
      Quote: svp67
      news on the signing of a procurement contract ...


      And I always wanted to drive to Machu Picchu in Peru ...

      Sergei, now the ancient city of the Incas will be guarded by Nashi ...
      wink
      lol
      1. soaring
        soaring 16 October 2013 15: 58
        +2
        Yes ... There our tanks will become an integral part of the "interior" !!! good wink
      2. bask
        bask 16 October 2013 17: 48
        +6
        Quote: Aleks tv
        And I always wanted to drive to Machu Picchu in Peru ...

        Hi Lesh.
        And on the T-90 C, in the mountains, Peru.
        And what kind of Indian women are there, beautiful, ssssuperrrrr. repeat
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 16 October 2013 18: 03
          +3
          Quote: bask
          And what kind of Indian women are there, beautiful, ssssuperrrrr.

          Wow, Andrey!
          laughing
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 16 October 2013 18: 30
            +5
            Hi men, and so laughingThere the boys threw everything is already running.
            1. bask
              bask 16 October 2013 19: 26
              +3
              Quote: Alex 241
              and so the boys overthrew all already running.

              Good evening Sasha.
              Our girls are still prettier.
              150 T-90MS, I would buy a new MO, this was news.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 16 October 2013 19: 32
                0
                Hi Andryush, who would doubt it. Let's see, there are only a few days left by the end of the year, maybe they will give what.
                1. bask
                  bask 16 October 2013 19: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  and who would doubt it. Let's see, before the end of the year, only a few days are left, maybe they will give what.

                  Most likely, only modernized armored vehicles and BTR80 / 82.
                  About BMP-3M (F), complete silence, as well as about the purchase of BMPT, SU ,, Sput-SD ,, SPG ,, Vienna ,,.
                  Azerbaijan, for its armed forces, buys, we do not (no words).
            2. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 16 October 2013 22: 05
              +1
              Quote: Alex 241
              Hello men, and this is how the boys threw it all are already running.

              Hi Sanya.
              Sorry, guys, I answer late ...

              The first photo is more cool - this is the crew "tearing claws" on the tank headmistress from the "path" on command from the HSE. The dust is only embarrassing, as if dvigl in idle threshing.
              The second photo is just the defects in Real Armor.
              wink
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 16 October 2013 22: 08
                +1
                Lesch flooded a little on the tank theme.
    6. Rink
      Rink 16 October 2013 13: 50
      +9
      Great pictures, it's nice to see the power of our car.

      Compared to American tanks and mercans, he looks like a lean, trained boxer against well-fed and lazy lovers of hot dogs and beer.
      1. afire
        afire 16 October 2013 14: 01
        +6
        Quote: Skating rink
        Great pictures, it's nice to see the power of our car.

        Compared to American tanks and mercans, he looks like a lean, trained boxer against well-fed and lazy lovers of hot dogs and beer.

        laughing wait for an honest Jew)))
        1. Rink
          Rink 16 October 2013 14: 20
          +7
          Quote: afire
          wait for an honest Jew)))

          Why wait for someone who is not?
    7. T-100
      T-100 16 October 2013 14: 59
      +9
      I liked the 4 photo, the old grandfather of t-55 and the strong granddaughter of t-90)))
      1. alone
        alone 16 October 2013 15: 05
        +4
        The "old grandfather" was also a tough nut in his time. I myself saw how a T-72 was destroyed from it at a distance of 1 km straight into the tower.
    8. cdrt
      cdrt 16 October 2013 16: 44
      0
      In the original article from the Peruvian newspaper, by the way, there is one joke and one interesting point.

      Funny
      The article is dated 14.10.13/17/19.10. Moreover, they write that the tests were carried out on XNUMX-XNUMX. Those. future news comes out laughing
      Apparently just confused with September.

      Interesting.
      TPV sight Essa. It turns out that whole feast of spirit with the new TPV, which has been written about lately, is not offered.
  2. a52333
    a52333 16 October 2013 11: 25
    +2
    Now hope for Shoigu. We look forward to more large contracts.
  3. skif33
    skif33 16 October 2013 11: 28
    0
    Why conduct test tests in conjunction with the T-55. Do you need someone to prove that the T-90 is better from a mastodon?
    1. AnpeL
      AnpeL 16 October 2013 13: 25
      14
      Here, the trick is rather that staff retraining is very fast. This is a valid plus.
  4. aksakal
    aksakal 16 October 2013 11: 28
    47
    Well, when the T-90 was sent to Lima in the summer, I had no doubt that this tank would show that it wasn’t slurping soup, and that it was a full-fledged and powerful tank, one of the best, if not the best at the moment. T-90 X made a total of 38 rounds with a 125 caliber mm (16 3VBM17 (BPS -T), 12 3VBK, 16 (HEAT-FS) and 10 3VOF36 (HE-FRAG)), HE-FRAG), -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HNUMX (HEAT-FS) and 94,7 XNUMXVOFXNUMX (HE-FRAG), -HE-FRAG), -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG, -HE-FRAG
    - very impressive.
    Here everyone proves to us that where near Syria in the Golan the best tank in the world lives. Yes nifiga! He is undergoing trials in Peru. And in the Golan - just good tank nervously reacting even to a neighbor-armored personnel carrier laughing
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 16 October 2013 11: 34
      22
      Quote: aksakal
      And in the Golan - just a good tank, nervously reacting even to a neighbor-armored personnel carrier

      If you put T90 next to a carrot, but Professor will not take offense at me, the oil will flow between her tracks laughing
      1. svp67
        svp67 16 October 2013 12: 20
        23
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        If you put T90 next to a carrot, but Professor will not take offense at me, the oil will flow between her tracks

        It is not necessary to "PRESS ON THE BATTLE OF Iduchi ..." "Merkava" is the most serious opponent, and whatever she has, something and from somewhere "flowed" will have to try STRONGLY ...
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 16 October 2013 12: 54
          10
          Quote: svp67
          It is not necessary to "PRESS ON THE BATTLE OF Iduchi ..." "Merkava" is the most serious opponent, and whatever she has, something and from somewhere "flowed" will have to try STRONGLY ...

          - so we don't say that Carrot is a bad tank. In any case, I claim that he is a GOOD tank. So I believe that "Merkava", especially the 4th option -
          Quote: aksakal
          just a good tank
          . Is this not true? What hurt you?
          Good tank -
          Quote: svp67
          most serious opponent
          - This has been the case since the creation of the tanks. And we do not deny it.
          1. Altona
            Altona 16 October 2013 13: 05
            41
            You need to put a good tanker in a good tank, and then competently lead good tanks with good tankers, and then in a battle it would be nice to support good tanks with good tankers and competent commanders with sensible infantrymen, as well as skilled pilots on modern aircraft ... And then the whole to supply this group with ammunition, fuel and food to savvy, non-bulky rear crews ... soldier
          2. mikkado31
            mikkado31 16 October 2013 19: 32
            -4
            T-90 is the 17th modification of the T-72 .... What are you arguing about?
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 16 October 2013 15: 16
          +4
          Quote: svp67
          No need to "PRESS ON THE BATTLE OF Iduchi ..."

          Everyone is in a hurry somewhere, in a hurry. I propose to survive until the summer of next year and we will probably have the opportunity to show ourselves and see the guests. If those guests deign to come. We’ll wait and see who is capable of what. Personally, the worm of doubt gnaws at me, he doubts the arrival of all the guests.
        3. Simon
          Simon 16 October 2013 15: 42
          +2
          Or maybe a duel between them? You will immediately see which tank is better. But my opinion is that the T-90C will wipe Merkava’s nose.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 17 October 2013 01: 10
            -3
            Given the fact that Israel is one of the world leaders in electronics? Oh well.
            1. barbiturate
              barbiturate 17 October 2013 03: 55
              +3
              and where does the electronics? a tank, another tank and now detects everything also, with optics, and Merkava is huge. Or do you think that in a modern Russian tank there is little electronics to hit the target?) And no Israel is a world leader in electronics, he hasn’t created anything for people, only some highly specialized systems for military equipment from Amer’s components, like many other countries
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 16 October 2013 15: 13
        +3
        Prof does not respect tanks in principle, be it Merkava or something else. He simply does not like stupidity. And in this he is right.
    2. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 16 October 2013 12: 08
      +6
      Quote: aksakal
      38 rounds of 125 mm caliber (16 3VBM17 (BPS-T), 12 3VBK, 16 (HEAT-FS) and 10 3VOF36 (HE-FRAG), achieving a hit efficiency of 94,7%.

      It turns out 36 hits from 38 shots. Very, very. I would like to see them in greater numbers than today in the native army.
      1. Orik
        Orik 16 October 2013 12: 15
        +6
        Well, it depends not only on the tank, but also on the tank.
  5. morpogr
    morpogr 16 October 2013 11: 30
    +2
    , Beauty, now in South America. We are waiting for the contract.
  6. Tyvinec
    Tyvinec 16 October 2013 11: 41
    11
    Thoughts of the driver after the tests.
  7. major071
    major071 16 October 2013 12: 14
    16
    I already wrote that in order to drive modern Russian tanks after the Soviet model of tanks, there is no need to retrain. The entire line of tanks starting with the T-64 is unified. Management is beautiful. And I'm not surprised that the driver after the T-55 easily mastered the control of the T-90. He had a transition from difficult to easy. soldier
    1. svp67
      svp67 16 October 2013 12: 16
      +4
      Quote: major071
      The entire line of tanks starting with the T-64 is unified.

      Yeah, especially the T80 with the GTE ...
      1. major071
        major071 16 October 2013 13: 04
        +4
        I meant the control complex of the driver. It is the same for the entire line of tanks. soldier
        1. svp67
          svp67 16 October 2013 13: 13
          +5
          Quote: major071
          I meant the control complex of the driver. It is the same for the entire line of tanks

          A similar "general appearance" does not mean the presence of nuances, and SIGNIFICANT ...
          And the fact that on the "Oplot" M now this complex is OUTSTANDING, as on the T90MS does not mean that mech-waters with T64, T72 or T80UD will not master it in "five minutes" ...
    2. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 16 October 2013 13: 28
      +7
      Quote: major071
      The entire line of tanks starting with the T-64 is unified.

      Only in general terms - the clutches operate hydraulically oil boosters of planetary BKP.
      That's it.
      Everything else is different.

      For example: if a smart mechanic T-72 is stuffed into a T-80 without explaining the peculiarities of driving, he will screw up the tank. If, on the contrary, the mechanic can "boil" the machine, not knowing its features.

      But in the T-55, everything is completely different. Here the 64-72-80 family is certainly structurally closer to each other.
      1. El13
        El13 16 October 2013 16: 06
        +6
        Listen, what are you arguing about?
        the driver-mechanic of the T-55 tank, after a 15-minute training, began to smoothly maneuver the T-90S along the "Bone Cruz" range

        Damn, after 15 minutes of explanation, I will also smoothly (slowly) drive any car ... It is not written that he perfectly mastered it ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 16 October 2013 21: 32
          +4
          Quote: El13
          Damn, after 15 minute explanation

          Yes, not EXPLANATIONS, but TRAINING ... and for a driver mechanic who knows how to drive a T55 normally, this is more than enough. It will remain only later, in the classroom, to bring the design and operation features, but the very driving of tanks with "hydraulic control" is much easier ...
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 16 October 2013 22: 07
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            but the very driving of tanks with "hydraulic control" is much easier ...

            yes
            Sincere admiration for the tape drive mechanisms.
            Full Respect to the mechanics of the T-34.

            It’s not that we are hydraulically ...
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 16 October 2013 22: 18
              +6
              ................
              1. Aleks tv
                Aleks tv 16 October 2013 22: 42
                +6
                Alex 241

                Sanya, this is just a test drive ...
                And imagine what it was like to mehans on the march? .........
                Make every turn of the car on the road muscles.
                And so many, many, many times in a row ...
                Constantly day after day
                Zabko become.

                We on the 64-72-80 family touch the clutch levers with our fingers, and then the mechanics are pulled out of the hatch after "weaving" on their hands ...

                Full Respect to VETERANS defending the Homeland on T-34.
                These were the TANKISTS with a capital letter.
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 16 October 2013 22: 47
                  +3
                  Lech 16 kg effort on the levers, no soap to steal in the bath! And I also read that the mechanic never stopped the hatch, but counter-it with an ordinary rope, and there was always a knife at hand.
          2. El13
            El13 17 October 2013 18: 35
            0
            Quote: svp67
            Yes, not EXPLANATIONS, but TRAININGS ...

            To the point, exactly what to "poke", opposed :)))
  8. stalker
    stalker 16 October 2013 12: 23
    +1
    The fact that we are promoting it on the world market is good, but the fact that there are few of them in the native army is bad, well, I hope the fathers and commanders understand what they are doing, relying on the armature, we are waiting.
  9. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 16 October 2013 12: 25
    +5
    Under the contract with Peru, you look and how much we will change ourselves. On a good TANK and the world is not ashamed to ride.
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  11. air wolf
    air wolf 16 October 2013 12: 57
    +1
    why not put the Essa thermal imager on the T-72 as a modernization, of which we have a lot?
  12. Basarev
    Basarev 16 October 2013 13: 02
    +3
    Well, that’s all Abrams, Abrams ...
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 16 October 2013 14: 05
      +8
      Quote: Basarev
      Well, that’s all Abrams, Abrams ..


      1. waisson
        waisson 16 October 2013 21: 05
        -2
        answer: yes you have no way to crawl at 72 but here at 90 we will look in the pen
  13. Cherdak
    Cherdak 16 October 2013 13: 40
    25
    I just trudge from such elegance, lightness and power. For the Russian Armed Forces at the beginning of 2012, the total production of T-90 and its modifications amounted to about 500 tanks. This is quite enough for modern needs, and the currency must be constantly earned and accumulated operating experience in different climatic zones. And to support their employees with decent salaries. And in 3-5 years there will be a new generation of tanks ...
    1. krpmlws
      krpmlws 16 October 2013 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Cherdak
      I just trudge from such elegance, lightness and power. For the Russian Armed Forces at the beginning of 2012, the total production of T-90 and its modifications amounted to about 500 tanks. This is quite enough for modern needs, and the currency must be constantly earned and accumulated operating experience in different climatic zones. And to support their employees with decent salaries. And in 3-5 years there will be a new generation of tanks ...

      This handsome t-90cm must be mass-produced, as well as other machines brought to its level. We will support the manufacturer, we will make efforts, and foreign orders will probably go.
  14. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 16 October 2013 14: 13
    +9
    The T-90C tank in Peru hit targets with almost 100% efficiency.

    Meanwhile, in Russia ...
    received more than 150 T-72B3 tanks
    , whose far from 100% efficiency we observe on biathlon.angry
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 16 October 2013 14: 36
      +8
      Quote: Peaceful military
      whose far from 100% efficiency we observe at biathlon.

      Andrey, the biathlon was T-72Б - an 184 object, not the T-72Б3 ...

      By the way: "Beha" is a great car. The fire support system there screwed up and ... the crews.
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 16 October 2013 15: 12
        +6
        Andrey, the biathlon was T-72Б - an 184 object, not the T-72Б3 ...

        Alexei, this is all clear, but it's about the T-90S ... I don’t know the details about the difference between the TTX T-72B; T-723 and T-90S (details, not TTX themselves).
        But the facts: shooting at the biathlon by the best and shooting in Peru ...
        1. Kars
          Kars 16 October 2013 15: 17
          +9
          Quote: Peaceful military
          But the facts: shooting at the biathlon by the best and shooting in Peru ...

          The sighting systems of the T-90С are much better. And do you think the Pre-warians shot at the T-90С during the tests? Or conscripts? There most likely were testers from the UVZ training ground. Which of this particular .. licked ... tank made more than one shot.
        2. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 16 October 2013 15: 27
          +4
          Quote: Peaceful military
          But the facts: shooting at the biathlon by the best and shooting in Peru ...

          Yes, the babai knows him, Andrei, what they had there with shooting ...

          3 UKS is much more complicated (biathlon shooting exercises), and it is standard in linear tank units.

          The minus, by the way, is not from me.
          1. Peaceful military
            Peaceful military 16 October 2013 15: 38
            +1
            The minus, by the way, is not from me.
            soldiersmile
    2. alone
      alone 16 October 2013 15: 02
      +6
      Quote: Peaceful military
      , whose far from 100% efficiency we observe on biathlon.


      you know, if the gunner is krivoruky and oblique, then the tank was out of luck))
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 16 October 2013 15: 15
        +6
        you know, if the gunner is krivoruky and oblique, then the tank was out of luck))

        These are the best of the best ... what then are ordinary ...
  15. mithridate
    mithridate 16 October 2013 14: 16
    +3
    such news can not but rejoice
  16. WIN969
    WIN969 16 October 2013 14: 35
    +1
    Against such indicators, even Western propaganda is not effective with their praised hornbeam on the M-1 tracks.
  17. Eric
    Eric 16 October 2013 15: 22
    0
    Quote: Skating rink
    Why wait for someone who is not?

    ))))
  18. Mercenary
    Mercenary 16 October 2013 15: 22
    -3
    why are you happy? in Peru t-90 is our t-72tm. and they will give them to the Americans for experiments
  19. Mizhgan
    Mizhgan 16 October 2013 15: 53
    0
    But he copied the news, and .... Weeds climbed out .... Naryl Official data ...
    Google translation:
    All the same, he delved into the essence and dug up this essence ... The translator "was drunk"
    According to unofficial information, on the first day the weather conditions were complicated by heavy rain and thick fog - typical of the coast of Peru - which limited the use of 1G46 to no more than 300-350 meters. Shooting, at a distance of 2000 to 2500 m. - Conducted using an ESSA thermal imaging sight. The other two days, the weather conditions were optimal allowing the T-90S to shoot - movements and parking lots - against targets located between 1.600 to 3.000 m. In this context, the T-90S was made, under a strict technical protocol, a total of 38 rounds of 125 mm type 16 3VBM17 (BPS-T), 12 3VBK16 type (HEAT-FS) and 10 3VOF36 type (HE-FRAG), achieving 94,7% efficiency.
    (This is a translation of the original gugl

    Original here: http://www.defensa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10414:-bueno

    s-resultados-de-las-pruebas-operacionales-y-de-tiro-en-peru-del-tanque-ruso-t-90

    s & catid = 55: latinoamerica & Itemid = 163

    So what ???? Now we will think about beautiful numbers ???? which provide us reporters. The original is the original. And only mathematics is an exact science, not subject to smart people ...
    And whoever is subject to it runs to the swamp, hanging part of the sheet on his chest ...
    , the whole class is for the swamps ...
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 16 October 2013 16: 47
      +4
      Quote: Mijgan
      And whoever is subject to it runs to the swamp, hanging part of the sheet on his chest ..., the whole class is for the swamps ...

      Mizgan, you tell us directly, something somehow ornately bent, smart or something?
      Quote: Mijgan
      So what ???? Now we will think about beautiful numbers ???? which provide us reporters. The original is the original. And only mathematics is an exact science, not subject to smart people ... And whoever is subject to it runs to the swamp, hanging part of the sheet on the chest ..., the whole class is for the swamps ...

      - understood nothing! You just tell me frankly - they lied about the T-90C, and did it get taxed on the case? Or what? What kind of post? Can we say in Russian? As taught in the Army - loudly, clearly, engraving every word!
    2. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 16 October 2013 17: 07
      +2
      Sorry, but you: "Thought spread out along the tree." I still do not understand your idea.
      Explain what you wrote is good or bad))))
    3. SkiF_RnD
      SkiF_RnD 21 October 2013 20: 10
      0
      What is wrong with the numbers? Does it seem to me alone that the article has the same numbers? What jambs? Judging by your translation, all tip-top, what are you talking about? belay
    4. SkiF_RnD
      SkiF_RnD 21 October 2013 20: 18
      0
      And the article in the original is called "Good results of operational tests and firing in Peru of the Russian tank T-90S" ... Also, the original article in Spanish mentions the TUR "Reflex" 9M119M, which hit 100% of targets at ranges 3 and 5 during tests kilometers. It seems like 6 missiles were used up when firing directly on tests. The work of "Curtains" was also demonstrated, there are no details, this is at the very end of the article.
  20. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 16 October 2013 17: 17
    +1
    Americans are very offended.
  21. Cherdak
    Cherdak 16 October 2013 17: 57
    +2
    Quote: tolyasik0577
    But copy-paste this news, and .... Weeds climbed out


    The coolest thing in the original is the T-84 OPLOT (Ucrania) - it was necessary to call the country so close to us!
  22. voliador
    voliador 16 October 2013 18: 28
    0
    Everyone already knows that the car is not bad. And at the expense of getting to the scramblers, so sooner or later it will get anyway, because they are already sold a lot.
  23. Fofan
    Fofan 16 October 2013 19: 05
    -5
    remembering what a shame it was at the "tank biathlon", I do not believe in the veracity of this article
  24. mikkado31
    mikkado31 16 October 2013 19: 26
    -2
    I have always been amused by this manner of presenting news in the headline - "with almost 100% accuracy."
    The accuracy is either 100% or nearly. These are mutually exclusive things. 88% can also be said to be "almost 100%", depending on how you round up. Although it is understandable, the purpose of translating the article is to cause a rush of patriotic orgasm, and not professional analysis.
    1. avg
      avg 16 October 2013 22: 53
      0
      The accuracy is either 100% or nearly. These are mutually exclusive things. 88% can also be said to be "almost 100%", depending on how you round up. Although it is understandable, the purpose of translating the article is to cause a rush of patriotic orgasm, and not professional analysis.

      For the guys from the armored train in the article, the decoding: "The T-90S fired a total of 38 rounds of 125 mm caliber (16 3VBM17 (BPS-T), 12 3VBK, 16 (HEAT-FS) and 10 3VOF36 (HE-FRAG), reaching efficiency hits 94,7%. "
  25. Boldyrev
    Boldyrev 16 October 2013 19: 31
    0
    Explain that the t90 is not purchased for Russia due to outdated characteristics similar to the t 72 that they began to update?
    1. Nikone
      Nikone 17 October 2013 01: 38
      +2
      T-90 is not being purchased for Russia, because we have a T-72 dofig
  26. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 16 October 2013 19: 43
    +1
    QUOTE: "The T-90S tank in Peru hit targets with almost 100% efficiency"

    To the campaign - it was SURPRISING even the Russian delegation ... what

    POSSIBLE, they thought that in the southern hemisphere other LAWS of ballistics ... lol
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 16 October 2013 20: 26
      +2
      Quote: sergey158-29
      To the campaign - it was SURPRISING even the Russian delegation ...

      And they thought - maybe they can buy it what
  27. SPACE
    SPACE 16 October 2013 23: 14
    0
    Someone may disagree, but I suppose the tank is not now the key means of warfare in modern warriors. A tank should not be an advanced breakthrough or offensive means, let alone a means of defense, a tank should be a MEANS OF CLEANING OUT the "remains" of a potential enemy.
    I see the strategy for conducting modern warriors in the following way: OTRKs enter first and extinguish the far zone, while simultaneously processing the middle and near zones of the MLRS and self-propelled guns. After that we bring up the long-range Tu-22/95/160 and the front-line bomber aircraft SU-24/34. The next echelon is followed by Rooks, Crocodiles and Hunters, but behind them we push tank wedges, interspersed with Terminators and Chrysanthemums, and the parade march is completed by ground and sky motorized infantry on BMP and BMD! As can be seen from the proposed tactics, the main role in the conflict will be assigned to rocket artillery and ESPECIALLY AVIATION, as the most mobile means. Therefore, I think tanks need to be produced and sold as long as there are "those" who can use them, and it makes no sense to modernize and bring to the level those platforms that are already available, such as T-72/80, while T-90 tanks have more than 500 units , especially in the perspective of the appearance of Armata. It is better to pay more attention to such underestimated means as BMPT and Chrysanthemum, especially BMPT, 100-200 pieces in Syria, like combines, would cut out all the weeds.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 16 October 2013 23: 59
      +1
      Quote: SPACE
      tanks should be produced and sold as long as there are "those" who can use them, and by themselves, it makes no sense to modernize and bring to the level those platforms that are already available, such as T-72/80, there is no sense in having T-90 tanks over 500 units. more in perspective
      more "sophisticated" tanks are exported than purchased by our Defense Ministry. I think this is harmful to the stability of our ground forces and diminishes their combat potential. Loss.
    2. edge
      edge 17 October 2013 06: 28
      +1
      Quote: SPACE
      but I think the tank is now not a key means of warfare in modern warriors.

      the use of armored vehicles always depends on the military theater (theater of operations) and the conditions of combat ... ...... As the battle practice has shown, a tank is a key link in everything; a combination of fire, maneuver, and security are most optimal for ground forces. Z4 was put on armored boats .....
  28. PValery53
    PValery53 16 October 2013 23: 52
    0
    Is it so weak to teach Russian tankers how to shoot in Peru? ”“ How far are the shooting statistics of our tankers behind this significant result? ”“ Maybe this is a secret?
  29. Agent 008
    Agent 008 17 October 2013 00: 10
    -1
    We have a proverb: "What is written with a pen cannot be cut out with an ax", but now it should sound differently: "What is tested in Peru cannot be cut down with an ax" ...
  30. Freelancer7
    Freelancer7 17 October 2013 03: 09
    0
    Hammers! No wonder biathlon !!! NOT IN VAIN!!!
  31. SkyMaXX
    SkyMaXX 17 October 2013 12: 11
    +1
    I didn’t doubt our tanks, absolutely.
  32. Hauptam
    Hauptam 18 October 2013 16: 51
    0
    A good advertising move, but after a failed tank biathlon they smeared and broke everything that is possible and these are the best crews ?????? (shown all over the world), I think no one will want to buy tanks in Russia.
  33. Victor-M
    Victor-M 18 October 2013 22: 47
    +2
    Bad military equipment doesn’t need anti-advertising, and it’s better to identify and eliminate defects at events such as tank biathlon, and not in real combat conditions. By the way, Western manufacturers of military equipment have no less problems, but they will not disclose them, why do they need anti-advertising.
  34. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 20 October 2013 09: 24
    +3
    I imagine what heartburn right now at P.indosov about this ... and there are more and more such reasons)))
  35. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 October 2013 12: 39
    0
    Our tanks have always been the best (proven in more than one war) simple tenacious! Peru will not regret it if it updates its tank troops .. we will teach tactics .. We have specialists of the highest class (they have it in genes. From grandfathers of fathers left ..)
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 20 October 2013 20: 58
      0
      only here is the problem in our military-industrial complex: the middle generation of specialists has fallen out.
  36. samoletil18
    samoletil18 20 October 2013 20: 54
    0
    Like this. Snowden was not given away, they stood up for Syria - immediately interest in buying Russian weapons began to appear. This means that there are still areas of the globe where they do not accept "Western democracy", but want to live and develop normally and benefit their peoples.
  37. volkodav
    volkodav 20 October 2013 21: 34
    0
    tell the experts who are crying here that we don’t buy our own aircraft; well, they will buy them 5000 and not 500, 1000 will go to combat units and the rest to storage bases, and what the fuck? just for the sake of it? so better give me that money, I'll drink it wassat
  38. Alexandr73
    Alexandr73 21 October 2013 15: 55
    0
    Quote: Altona
    You need to put a good tanker in a good tank, and then competently lead good tanks with good tankers, and then in a battle it would be nice to support good tanks with good tankers and competent commanders with sensible infantrymen, as well as skilled pilots on modern aircraft ... And then the whole to supply this group with ammunition, fuel and food to savvy, non-bulky rear crews ...

    Ek, you rolled your lips. You all at once. In order for all this to be fulfilled, Joseph Vissarionovich must be raised from the grave, but he will bow to his legs, saying that help us out.
    And he will answer, smoking his pipe: "You want to say that everything that the Soviet people earned with sweat and blood, about ... is it? I hope the guilty have been punished?"
    And we told him: "The investigation is underway, Joseph Vissarionovich, as soon as the extreme ones are appointed, we will immediately punish him, we will definitely give 8 years on probation."
    Stalin: "Then do not contact me, but God. Because with this approach, only he can help you." "Am I right, Comrade Beria?"

    This is not a rebuke to you, it is a stone to all of us. you wrote it right