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In Biryulyovo something is divided!

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Dear inhabitants of the topwar community.


For the first time I decided to present my fabrication to the account of the resonant events being recorded at the present moment.

Biryulevo western. Virtually the whole country looks at the rapid surge of activity of fellow citizens with enthusiasm and sighs hopelessly: “Well, we should be like that, get together and decide everything all at once.” And only a few understand how and what really happens there.

And let me tell you. I would be objective. The reason for my objectivity is absolute disinterest in the events taking place, because in this area I have ceased to live since 2009. But before ... I used to live there with terrible force, and the whole unwinding spiral of the current situation was very interesting for me.

As you understand, everything is not quite the way our valiant media present to us, among which there are no repayable and independent ones, apparently, not at all. That is, let's proceed from the idea that if the stars are lit, then it is necessary for someone. What are we seeing now? Bubbling people who are tired a lot. Tired (I will say as a witness) an absolute alien invasion, wide and arrogant, of an alien way of life, trampling on traditions and even laws, of the majority, habitually living in a given area. The arriving representatives of the previously friendly nations are not considered the life of the local population and, using corruption mechanisms, seek loyalty of the local authorities, which they then use for reckless business. This dirty business leads to the sale of poor-quality and expensive goods (fruits and vegetables) for sale, bypassing the tax, sanitary inspection, etc.

And people are besity not migrants. God bless them, what difference does it make, what kind of nationality a person is, namely, his disregard for local laws (not even traditions) of the population and the lack of reaction of the local administration and police. Moreover, I am sure that these people are at home, that they come here for “earnings” do not apply to people from whom it is customary to take an example (remember your attitude towards immigrants). This is a tradesman and boorders, who do not want to raise their country, but want to enrich themselves, preferably quickly and strongly. Visitors do not reckon with us for a long time, and the activities related to violence in Biryulyovo took place quite often, so why now everything is so tense?

And now about the main thing! About business! In the center of the entire mess is Pokrovskaya vegetable shop. This is an odious place on the map of Moscow. About this nice place there is an interesting article "People are dying for cilantro" by Ivan Golunov. I will not give a link, so as not to annoy the moderator. The article gives a partial idea of ​​the amount of lawlessness happening there. To begin with, the truth is that the main trade is conducted not at the official vegetable base, but in a “parking lot” where a stranger will not get, even driving up on a lame goat, but where it easily falls daily on 350-400 trucks with products, and countless number of gazelles.



Wagons come from all over the continent. This is where the whole gang of migrants works, and this business is the roof of the local administration together with the police and the FMS. And the roof is so zealous that (according to the author of the article "Magomed Tolboev:" Sobyanin will not be able to close the Pokrovsky market! "" Alexander Labykin) police and FMS officers are not even allowed to enter there.

“So what?”, You ask. All the big flea markets live like this. In our state, it is so accepted ... What is it that happened that the light came together on the guy who was slaughtered by a migrant. The first time what? (By the way, the murder is also some kind of strange, isn’t it? Caucasians and Asians do not act like that. If they brazenly go into conflict, they usually do it in a pack, with a margin of at least twice the people. Something is wrong here too ...) .

But the main thing: the situation has changed. In summer, the construction of the road from the Moscow Ring Road was completed. With a big powerful junction. Look at the map.


Previously, travel to the vegetable base was terrible torture. Either through Varshavka, through traffic jams and a cordon at the entrance, with cavils and extortions (holy work, to bite off someone else's pie), then down the Podolsk cadets street (heroes who died during the defense of Moscow) and before turning on Kharkovskaya street. Or even more terrible option - through the cordon at the entrance to Vostryakovsky passage, under the sign "the movement of freight transport is prohibited", which radically changed the size of the bribe. On Yandex maps, this junction is not even on the continuation of the Podolsk street. It is only on user cards so far - users react faster, meanwhile, the track itself is already there. October 7 drove along this road - a motorist's dream, finally the residents of Vostryakovsky will breathe freely - without gary trucks and stench of worn out gazels.

So. The road is built. It's time to change the host at the vegetable warehouse. It is desirable that this became a person from the approximate circle. How to do it? Why, like this: having played on the fatigue of the inhabitants, enlist their support and the mass media, close the vegetable base. (which was done) hereinafter - checking the FMS, Sanepidnadzor, Rospotrebnadzor or Another Serious Organization, identifying a terrible heap of violations, dismantling the "Parking" - changing the owner and, after cooling the masses, returning everything back. And the “namolennogo places” where go the caravans of trucks and gazels of yard traders and suppliers of shops, eateries, as well as places of work of a lot of illegal immigrants. Along the way, the Ministry of Internal Affairs will deal with the "enclave" and untie its tangle a little.

And it took just to draw attention to the murder of the poor guy, which in Moscow occur daily. (I really want to believe that there was no contract killing. There was an order or not, it will be seen by highlighting the investigation process and further the capture and punishment of the killer, as well as his nationality. If a Tajik or other Asian is caught - perhaps - this is the designated victim "If the representative of the Caucasus - then ... if the Chinese - then I don’t understand anything at all).

The action is played very high quality. The situation is screwed up and implemented in the image and likeness of previously worked out. Remember how after the accident on the bridge on the same street of Podolsk cadets, when a lot of people died in a taxi on a Gazelle, the action started to “notice” all the accidents “very dangerous minibuses on Gazelles” and how many Reno, Iveco and Ford Or история with an explosion in the Prague market ... Where is he now? And not him. Construction is boiling.

It is very sad that the dirty affairs of the redistribution of the market (all the same, all the cases, one way or another, run into big business) are done with the hands and sometimes with the blood of ordinary people who are simply duped. This, by the way, is a toolkit of information-psychological operations, when, while pursuing a seemingly one goal, they achieve a completely different one. So much attention to interethnic conflicts, of course, is explainable, but here it is not only the "People hawala" principle. Here, first of all, the discrediting of power, the disunity of the ethnos (the Russian multinational ethnos). So the game seems to go to several gates. Read between the lines, dear comrades. Listen with half an ear. Love life and do good!
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  1. Mature naturalist
    Mature naturalist 16 October 2013 08: 37
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    It seems that the author is right.
    "Look for who benefits," so it seems?
    1. abdrah
      abdrah 16 October 2013 09: 15
      41
      "If too obvious nonsense is committed somewhere, look for a very smart person behind all this" I.V. Stalin
    2. Skiff
      Skiff 16 October 2013 09: 17
      13
      And I want to add the following, the market turnover amounted to tens of billions of dollars, and yesterday I don’t remember who, but said the following, that it is necessary to organize two new mega-vegetable markets and that everything is cultural and beautiful, someone is catching fish in troubled waters, I think it will become soon clear.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 16 October 2013 11: 28
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        I would not blame business for the riots, the laws of business for us, the People, were let down by the people who ruined the USSR. Those who now hold key government posts. The laws of the market have penetrated into government agencies (the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the Federal Antimonopoly Service, etc. They do not live on Mars) The trouble is that the market is self-regulating only for fools.
        My conclusion: The situation in Biryulyovo is a direct consequence of the incompetence of the government of the country. Corruption of the entire power vertical. And while we are ruled by those who destroyed the USSR and their successors, it is extremely naive to wait for changes.
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 12: 55
          +3
          Quote: S_mirnov
          My conclusion: The situation in Biryulyovo is a direct consequence of the incompetence of the government of the country. Corruption of the entire power vertical. And while we are ruled by those who destroyed the USSR and their successors, it is extremely naive to wait for changes.


          And it is all the more naive to blame everything on "some premeditated scenarios." There are much easier and less risky ways to squeeze the business out.
          1. bif
            bif 16 October 2013 19: 18
            +3
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            There are much simpler and less risky ways to squeeze the business out.

            I agree. The author’s theory is doubtful ... and unlikely.
            But for me personally, it remains a mystery - how the murder in the residential quarter and the market are connected, why did the residents decide to pour out their anger there? I heard a version, such as a murderer, but where is the logic - maybe he is a murderer, but he didn’t dab to sit for several days in the market a couple of kilometers from the place of murder. So the question arises - Who "suggested" to search the market? Although, maybe the author simply "infected" me with his conspiracy theory and everything is simpler - patience has run out, there is no trust in the authorities, so we went to carry out the Lynching Court to the nearest place of the "congestion" of illegal immigrants in the south.
            1. Ruslan_F38
              Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 20: 55
              +2
              Quote: bif
              But for me personally, it remains a mystery - how is the murder in the residential quarter and the market connected, why did the residents decide to pour out their anger there?

              And with what place do people connect the entire demon that is happening in the area? Where are the most brunettes? The abscess simply burst, would not happen this time, would happen in another. You know, to listen to the author, the next time this happens (God forbid, of course) a similar case, it’s better to just sit at home and wait for the authorities, the cops to catch the killer and put things in order in the market, on the streets, in the work of law enforcement agencies, but generally wherever Is this a way out? Will solve this philistine behavior of the problem? The answer in my opinion is obvious.
              1. bif
                bif 16 October 2013 21: 51
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                Quote: Ruslan_F38
                The answer in my opinion is obvious.

                Yavtor is not alone, as it turns out.
                “Meanwhile, in the media, conspiracy theories appeared that the riots at the Pokrovskaya fruit and vegetable base were planned in advance, before the resonant murder.
                As Rosbalt reported with reference to sources in law enforcement agencies, a shopping and entertainment center may appear on the site of the vegetable warehouse, which is run by thieves in law, waging a long-term “bloody war” for control of the object.

                According to the agency, the events surrounding the vegetable warehouse began after the arrest in September of the current year of criminal authority Ulfat Tagiyev (Rufo Ganja), who led the "group of killers of one of the leaders of the Azerbaijani army, Rovshan Dzhaniev (Rovshan Lankoransky)." He, in turn, controlled the Pokrovskaya vegetable warehouse until February 2013.

                The police were investigating Tagiyev’s activities, but “representatives of one of the Russian special services rushed to the base with searches” last week, without detaining anyone. After that, the base was "practically empty", and the plans of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to investigate failed.

                According to the publication, the assassination of Yegor Shcherbakov soon happened (on the night of October 10), and on Saturday nationalists began to gather in Biryulyovo. As a result, riots broke out on Sunday, representatives of nationalist movements led the crowd to the base, where they defeated the empty shopping arcades.

                The police say that on Monday "at the very top" they decided to move the vegetable warehouse outside the MKAD, and to build a shopping center on free 24 hectares of land.

                “Thus, everyone will be satisfied. The "thieves in law" will still have its own base, its movement will not affect their income in any way. And certain forces will receive land for development. Moreover, due to recent events, the disclosure of crimes committed by Dzhaniev’s group and “thieves in law”, who got the base after him, will be extremely complicated. The gangsters related to the base lay at the bottom. There is a feeling that in order to “kill all these birds with one stone”, pogroms were organized in Biryulyovo. And the fact that the riots had a director, we already have no doubts, ”Rosbalt quoted the source as saying.
                At the same time, the police claim that a lot of people died because of the Pokrovsk base. However, the murder of 25-year-old Yegor Shcherbakov is not even indirectly related to her. "Http://vz.ru//society/2013/10/16/655252.html
              2. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 17 October 2013 11: 16
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                Quote: Ruslan_F38
                You know, to listen to the author, so the next time when a similar case happens (God forbid, of course), it’s better to just stay at home and wait for the authorities, the cops will catch the killer and put things in order

                Very correct conclusion! That is why the "Conspiracy Theory" was invented to make the layman feel confident that sitting at home and doing nothing is the most correct behavior!
      2. ale-x
        ale-x 16 October 2013 11: 31
        +4
        As with the Gardener and TYAK "Moscow" in Lyublino. They were just getting ready for the opening when Cherkizon began to break.
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 16 October 2013 15: 27
          +1
          ale-x SU Today, 11:31 ↑ New
          As with the Gardener and TYAK "Moscow" in Lyublino. They were just getting ready for the opening when Cherkizon began to break.

          True, it looks as if European business networks are squeezing Azerbaijani markets and flea markets.
          It was the same in St. Petersburg, under Matvienko: first, the "Odessa noise" about the closure of markets, and immediately, followed by the opening of the Swedish superstores "IKEA", "OBI", "KASTORAMA", "DIXY".
          1. bif
            bif 16 October 2013 18: 54
            +4
            Quote: shpuntik
            about the closure of markets, and immediately followed by the opening of the Swedish superstores "IKEA", "OBI", "KASTORAMA", "DIXY".

            Even if we assume a direct connection, then I choose Supermarkets ... and not these hotbeds. But the example of the situation in St. Petersburg is not correct, the markets were closed "without noise and dust" and supermarkets were not erected on their territory. It's just pure marketing - a consumer "niche" (those that went to the markets) was freed up and to meet the needs of these people (waste of money) it was profitable to increase the number of supermarkets.
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 16 October 2013 22: 39
              +1
              bif SU Today, 18:54 ↑
              Even assuming a direct connection, I choose Supermarkets ... and not these nurseries.

              Supermarkets are also better for me, but only industrial ones, but food ones are in question: they could grow their own, summer residents like pigeons near the metro, and then the cops are driving. The vegetables are from Geyroppa, some kind of plastic, without taste.
              But the example of the situation in St. Petersburg is not correct, the markets were closed "without noise and dust" and supermarkets were not erected on their territory.

              Why is it not correct? We are talking about the redistribution of the market, Matvienko arranged it. That did not kill anyone? That is yes.
              In Moscow, a special case: murder for no reason, a spontaneous rally-got this market all the local. And the authorities immediately started talking about the demolition of the market, why would it?
              Coincidence? About this and the article.
              On the other hand: where does the market itself? Put things in order with people, give out labor books, sanitary, roll your fingers, count all, close the flow of Gaster.
              It's just pure marketing - a consumer "niche" was freed (those that went to the markets) and to meet the needs of these people (waste of money) it was profitable to increase the number of supermarkets.

              In Moscow, the same "pure marketing", only several times more money, well, St. Petersburg is still a cultural capital yes .
      3. shpuntik
        shpuntik 16 October 2013 15: 18
        +2
        Skiff (2) RU Today, 09:17 ↑ New
        And I want to add the following, the market turnover amounted to tens of billions of dollars, and yesterday I don’t remember who, but said the following, that it is necessary to organize two new mega-vegetable markets and that everything is cultural and beautiful, someone is catching fish in troubled waters, I think it will become soon clear.

        They change the owner of the business, the chain of intermediaries: the resignation of the heads of the district, the district department of internal affairs, the closing of the market. Article + This scheme was built by Luzhkov with his friend Ismailov. By the way, it’s the same Azerbaijani. http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/380719/
        The market in Luzhniki was originally Luzhkovsky.
    3. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 October 2013 11: 37
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      Quote: Mature Naturalist
      "Look for who benefits from"


      Do not multiply entities unnecessarily. The fact that there is a constant redistribution of property in Moscow is no secret to anyone. And it’s absolutely not necessary to arrange such complex constructions in order to close the market - the mayor’s decision is enough. And occasions you can find a wagon. A million ways - at least find Escherichia coli, at least a packet of white powder in the trunk of the owner.
      I think the authorities just took advantage of the situation, that’s all.
      But to tell that everything is adjusted from beginning to end - is that the author is trying to make us think that all citizens are puppets and are incapable of civil protest? Too bold statement.
      1. alone
        alone 16 October 2013 11: 58
        +1
        what I wrote yesterday that the murder was just an excuse for those who began to redistribute the sphere of influence. Here the killer is caught, he admitted. They will punish him deservedly. But the shopping centers will be closed. The previous owners will be thrown out. in a couple of months, another will buy the territory and a new shopping center will open. A vicious circle. but in fact, a hand of several swindlers-officials warmed up.
      2. Evgeniy-111
        Evgeniy-111 16 October 2013 12: 43
        +2
        This is only if the market is subordinate to the mayor. And if it’s inter-district showdowns, then it’s possible ...
        And our citizens are capable of civil protest only in a VERY EXTREME case.
      3. avt
        avt 16 October 2013 12: 44
        +6
        Quote: Botanologist
        Do not multiply entities unnecessarily. The fact that there is a constant redistribution of property in Moscow is no secret to anyone. And it’s absolutely not necessary to arrange such complex constructions in order to close the market - the mayor’s decision is enough.

        And here you are wrong. To borrow wholesale bases, this is not to remove stalls from the streets, here they have a “rookery” for collecting black cash, which in cities of millions of people is mind-boggling figures that are quite comparable to large budget items. The author correctly highlighted the direction. redistribution will happen as with the stalls and Cherkizon, and even deal with the slaves that there are a handful and shake up ethnic crime called "diaspora" - I only for such a redistribution. The main thing is that this infection does not migrate, well, let's say to the Moscow region and beyond, and so that they do not outbid everyone at the meeting, as always.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 16 October 2013 19: 23
          -1
          Quote: avt
          To occupy wholesale bases, these are not stalls to remove from the streets,


          What's the problem? The oligarchs were crushed like bugs, and their protection would be more serious than a pair of chocks with knives.
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 16 October 2013 19: 49
            +1
            "The oligarchs were crushed like bedbugs," What oligarchs were crushed?)
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 16 October 2013 22: 55
              -1
              Quote: New Russia
              Which oligarchs were crushed?


              Google the names Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Khodorkovsky, Polonsky, Urinson. For general development.
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 16 October 2013 23: 21
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                I know these last names. Do you know that the number of billionaires over 13 years has grown from 6 to 130 goals? By the way, besides these names you have nothing to name, the fact that the oligarchy has grown together with the authorities
                1. SIT
                  SIT 17 October 2013 00: 08
                  0
                  Quote: New Russia
                  the fact that the oligarchy is fused with power

                  You probably were a little old in the 90s, otherwise you would have known that the whole oligarchy was appointed by this government and is sitting under its cap. As soon as Misha Khodorkovsky blinks, he’ll immediately go to the tops to sew under the Chita or in the southern capital of the Arkhangelsk region the city of Velsk.
              2. pl675
                pl675 17 October 2013 01: 09
                0
                without google-the first on your list, was involved in the formation of Putin.
                Polonsky clown.
                you do not own the situation, I'm sorry.
          2. avt
            avt 16 October 2013 20: 13
            +2
            Quote: Botanologist
            What's the problem? The oligarchs were crushed like bugs, and their protection would be more serious than a pair of chocks with knives.

            Well, first of all, they weren't really pressured, so they redistributed the loot amicably with severance pay. But here things are serious and big shoulder straps are tied not in a childish way, and often they float there in shares almost directly through family members, and not just there, two chocks with a knife "can quite afford to buy real fighters for their loot And such people can only be crushed with the help of real fighters with shoulder straps, but as I said, they pay well for large shoulder straps, it was wet on the wood - start from the beginning. well, except for Ignatenko, they don't even know how to judge.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 16 October 2013 22: 59
              -1
              Quote: avt
              on the little things redistributed the loot amicably with severance pay


              In more detail about the severance pay of Khodokovsky, Lebedev and Urinson. Pliz

              Quote: avt
              it’s quite possible for their loot to buy real fighters like PMCs


              lol Show me PMCs in Russia. Or at least a type of PMC. Especially their legislative support fool

              Quote: avt
              An example - the gambling of prosecutors in the Moscow region - almost all came out, well, except for Ignatenko


              Yes, the conversation is not about that. You re-read the article.
              1. avt
                avt 16 October 2013 23: 15
                +1
                Quote: Botanologist
                In more detail about the severance pay of Khodokovsky, Lebedev and Urinson. Pliz

                request Well, they rested and did not sell the business, unlike Rybalovlev, for example.
                Quote: Botanologist
                Show me PMCs in Russia. Or at least a type of PMC.

                ,, Atoll "for example
                Quote: Botanologist
                Especially their legislative support

                laughing Oh, I have these games in law, but you can collect them under Chop, well, if you really want to do it on the forehead, well, ours were tied up in tow in Nigeria. Chopovtsy bearded men from Ryazan?
                Quote: Botanologist
                Yes, the conversation is not about that. You re-read the article.

                That's just about the same thing - the struggle for black cash and how to raise poker - on fresh herbs and vegetables or underground casinos.
                1. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 17 October 2013 14: 26
                  0
                  Quote: avt
                  Well, they rested and did not sell the business, unlike Rybalovlev, for example


                  And just that? And I thought that Khodor wanted to take power, to get his majority in the State Duma. And he was also planning to pull a pipe to China past all government expectations.

                  How simple it is for you.
      4. Ascetic
        Ascetic 16 October 2013 16: 36
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        Quote: Botanologist
        But to tell that everything is adjusted from beginning to end - is that the author is trying to make us think that all citizens are puppets and are incapable of civil protest? Too bold statement.


        The author does not dig too deep into the origins of all this. This is not a trivial redistribution using the FSB and GRU technologies for organizing mass riots and panic. The boiler has been heating up for decades and more than one intelligence agency and authorities WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CALCULATE EXACTLY and even more so to organize such a massive explosion.
        The confusion of officials, at first the indecisive and clumsy actions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the incomprehensible position of Sobyanin (that he explained why he did not come there in favor of the poor), comments and assessments of the authorities and the media immediately and after, exactly the opposite, a frank fright when all the officials covered themselves with a frightened girl the press secretary. All this leads to the conclusion that the AUTHORITY was BANALLY SCARED and at the first moment simply did not know what to do. And then why did agents provocateurs of special services need to send people to smash the shopping center instead of immediately leading to the base without giving the police time to assess the situation and take action. There are many questions. but by its nature, the action does not pull on the organized and planned, in comparison with the Luzhkov pogrom in 2002 after the football match. Moreover, the pogrom would take place at any outcome, the mechanism of such actions arranged by special services was so clearly visible.
        Initially, in Soviet times, the BZ area was populated by hard workers from ZIL, among whom there was a large percentage of Soviet "limiters". In the dashing 90s in the industrial zone, in the immediate vicinity of Biryulev, Pokrovsky market and fruit and vegetable base opened.The author did not say a word about the market. In those days, the Caucasians working in these markets and the base either lived in the same place they were selling or rented apartments in the houses closest to the market in Biryulev. After the collapse of the ZIL, the local hard workers remained worthless, without work and without life prospects. Whoever could leave, someone found himself, and most of the remaining ones either drank themselves quietly or earned odd jobs. Slowly the apartments were vacated, the number of apartments being rented increased, it was impossible to find tenants from among the Russians. For who left, someone drank themselves or made up their minds. Therefore, someone began to rent apartments to Caucasians. And with the increase in the number of Caucasians in the area, crime began to grow. First, a little bit - robberies, robberies. Then the showdown, the debtors thrown out the windows, shooting, stabbing, etc.
        Local began to dump more actively. And now the circle is closed: more Caucasians - higher crime - less local - more Caucasians.
        It was in the 90s that the market became the epicenter of crime, not a vegetable warehouse, and somewhere in the middle of the XNUMXs, the authorities liquidated the market and all the trash moved to the base. This is how a semi-legal "Parking lot" was formed there, which for many years was unsuccessfully demanded to be liquidated by citizens. All this anger and hatred of corrupt cops and Caucasians accumulated not even a year, not five, but decades. Recent killing lowered these springs. reached a critical mass as in a nuclear charge when in Biryulyovo during this time has grown up a new generation of 20-year-olds brought up on hatred of Caucasians and corrupt cops and power.which was the initiator of the pogroms and which is called Russian nationalists. You can’t blame everything on a banal redistribution, the roots of this process are ripening not only in Biryulyovo but throughout Russia and writing them off trying to explain all this with the machinations of the authorities at least short-sighted and dangerous. This new generation has grown up in such an environment and seeing the humiliation of their parents put up with how they will no longer. All these events are only the first signs so far, if you do not take really comprehensive measures and engage in redistribution, then you can’t avoid a lot of blood.
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 16 October 2013 17: 05
          +5
          About this nice place there is an interesting article "People are dying for cilantro" by Ivan Golunov. I will not give a link, so as not to annoy the moderator.


          Nobody needs to be annoyed, especially since I already gave the link, please give more
          People die for cilantro
        2. Botanologist
          Botanologist 16 October 2013 23: 01
          -1
          Quote: Ascetic
          You can’t blame everything on a banal redistribution, the roots of this process are ripening not only in Biryulyovo but throughout Russia and write them off trying to explain all this with the machinations of the authorities at least short-sighted and dangerous.


          Here I am about the same.
        3. Virtuous
          17 October 2013 12: 58
          +1
          Very interesting comment, thanks. I am aware of both the Prague market and the market that was located near the waste incineration plant (construction) and ZIL hostels, I just did not want to inflate the article very much. We don’t really like it when there are too many letters.
          And on your comment, I realized my mistake. I did not understand very clearly that the action was not about organizing unrest. Nooo, not at all like that. The action was in the information space. Simply merging and disseminating information was enough to turn on other forces that would play the nat card and who were always waiting to inflate such a spark.
          Here is the one who trumpeted the information, that is the winning party.
          I did not want to focus on the interaction of ethnic groups. There are enough articles about this. I wanted to catch the trail of "patient 0", which started everything (I hope I did not order).
      5. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 16 October 2013 19: 09
        +1
        It looks even bolder because the alleged organizers must be confident in themselves at some super level. Clearly manage such porridge, not afraid that it will catch with boiling water ... It is doubtful. Very doubtful ...
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 16 October 2013 19: 42
          +5
          Quote: Mikhail3
          It looks even bolder because the alleged organizers must be confident in themselves at some super level. Clearly manage such porridge, not afraid that it will catch with boiling water ... It is doubtful. Very doubtful ...
          Now there are a lot of different videos, If there were provocateurs and organizers from the side it would be visible, but even by conversation Spartak fans (the most organized part and not the fighters were determined on the move, let's go there no let's go here, etc.) There were no groups organized in advance , and if later they appeared, it was belatedly, it all started with a gathering of residents. There were elderly men and women of the same age with placards, the youth pulled themselves up later and at first also behaved not aggressively and calmly. There were no bottles, fittings and other things. All this appeared already in the course of events when "outsiders" were drawn to the residents
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 17 October 2013 13: 53
      0
      Quote: Mature Naturalist
      It seems that the author is right.
      "Look for who benefits," so it seems?


      The author dumped everything in a heap. A good method to confuse matters even more. In general, the article is a plus, but the sediment remained bad.
  2. Volkhov
    Volkhov 16 October 2013 08: 48
    +1
    The procedure with the vegetable warehouse is so centralized that it is most likely higher than business - mobilization, evacuation ... The place is quite suitable for the collection point.
  3. mak210
    mak210 16 October 2013 08: 48
    17
    Very similar to the truth. The banal murder was untwisted in full (sincere condolences to relatives and relatives, a terrible and absurd tragedy). Participants in the detention will be awarded, but for what? A million was promised to a person who would provide effective assistance to the investigation. Such a face was found, well done guy, was not afraid (but why did they show him on the box, usually they don’t?), The Ministry of Internal Affairs promised to fulfill the promise (sorry for the turnover). With a photo, you could do nothing at all, drink tea in your office and pick up the phone. Further, the simplest operation, because they do not catch an experienced recidivist with connections, not an ingenious maniac, and this violent Azerbaijani does not look like a foreign resident or experienced melee. More like an ordinary sucker with one crinkle: he killed a man and continued to hang out, maybe even a knife would be with him. So what are opera rewards for? Maybe actually for the one described in the article?
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 October 2013 11: 40
      11
      Quote: mak210
      Banal murder spun in full


      Note that the common people promoted the "banal murder", the government, as usual, ran after them. It is a fact that they have solved their questions along the way, but do not harness the horse behind the cart.
      The article sets an investigation instead of a cause. What for?
  4. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 16 October 2013 08: 50
    +8
    I will be objective(author).- why ... who said ...
    I don’t know Moscow, its suburbs and surrounding areas I don’t know, BUT, everything that happens there in a wave, OH WON’T TSUNAMI TO RIDE IN RUSSIA .. For whom it is beneficial to know how to arrange a mess, and how to arrange it in our case (local authorities, Ministry of Internal Affairs ...) - it's like TWO FINGERS .. well, hit the asphalt.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 October 2013 11: 43
      +7
      Kutuzov was right - to save Russia, you need to burn Moscow.
      1. Fin
        Fin 16 October 2013 17: 54
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        Kutuzov was right - to save Russia, you need to burn Moscow.

        I completely agree. A bit about free medicine. I arrived in January at a very famous scientific medical center (I won’t say which one else will have to go) with all the necessary directions, benefits, and a quota for the provision of a high-tech medical center. I was surprised at the reception how people take money. A woman with a child without a referral (local) gave 3,6 sput. for a doctor’s appointment without any receipts. It struck me that my grandmother had a usual cardboard box in the window, all clogged with money at 14 o’clock. I’m going to the doctor for 60 ty. writes out all kinds of directions for examinations. I have to type manual should be free, they are all sorts of excuses. I don’t give up, the money doesn’t fall from the sky, some guy comes out, gives me a lecture on what is financed by the quota and what is not, and afterwards somehow finds a way out of the situation. I write a statement addressed to the head with a request to examine for free. The next day, everything is decided.
        I mean, in Moskvabad (the fish’s head) everyone was mired in corruption and bribery. Residents are also used to giving bribes - this is normal for them, somewhere they gave a bribe, somewhere they got it. There is no way to get along without a large hedgehog. It is necessary to disperse officials of all stripes and policemen.
  5. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 16 October 2013 08: 53
    +5
    from the Don.
    There is some truth in this. We have the same case in Salsk. The authorities quickly blocked the entrance, to put it mildly, sympathizing with this place. But on the other hand. The boiler is boiling more and more, and now the lid will fly off! And people will not look for the background !
  6. Edward72
    Edward72 16 October 2013 09: 16
    +1
    If the stars light up, then it is beneficial for someone. I fully agree with the author.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 16 October 2013 09: 27
      +8
      soon they will start killing you everywhere, and you will say-
      If the stars light up, then it is beneficial for someone. I fully agree with the author.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 10: 44
        +4
        Quote: Gleb
        soon they will start killing you everywhere, and you will say-

        They are already killing .., but until he personally touches it, they will read between the lines as an author ..
  7. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 October 2013 09: 36
    +6
    Once, such cunning authorities played out with fire, which led to their fall, and the rise to power of radicals, and this happened in two countries: the Russian Empire in 1917, when the interim government played out with the Bolsheviks in Germany, where local democrats + the upper circles of England, France and the United States raised a monster in the form of the NSDAP, and after all, everyone was so cunning, just the reincarnations of Machiavelli. So, it should be recalled that many "reincarnations" ended very badly. And Kerensky, who fled disguised as a nurse in the United States just lucky.
  8. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 16 October 2013 09: 37
    12
    The author sees the consequence as a cause. Just on the wave of all this, on the sly, they decided to figure it out, and why not if the circumstances are such. You don't have to soar that "they inflated it in order to squeeze it out", but nifiga boiled and began to smash.
    1. Muadipus
      Muadipus 16 October 2013 14: 22
      -1
      Boiling up! Right! You you sit at home all so boiling and boil. Or do something else at home, or sit here and simmer on the portal (I’m writing without personality). And at that time, some non-Russian killed the Russian somewhere in the next quarter, or as for many participants in the pogrom in general in another area .... I’m talking about how all those who were boiling knew about what had happened and was organized in the same way same place? Here sometimes at 02 you can’t get through, here the bang and even a flash mob could be managed to organize. and again you begin to boil so boiling - well, well, how so? I was boiling so much, and I missed such a kipish, so I would let off steam there. And sit again and just simmer.
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      2. DuraLexSedLex.
        DuraLexSedLex. 16 October 2013 16: 07
        +2
        If you sit on your ass at home, then don't compare with others. Do you know who I am, how I live and how I make a living? I have a friend living there and we went to him and with them, so to speak, "listen to what they say", I have in the area, the aizers, too, are bombing under the windows, and sometimes they rob those who are being brought up ...
        And if you are talking about an organization, then you are either deprived of intelligence or stupid at the end, there was an announcement on the Internet about who, where and when in Biryulya will talk to the people. Who was interested to find out themselves and not from the "honest incorruptible" media, they came.
        And the fact that they began to smash there was so nothing surprising ... there came a people whom friends called and so on. There were just a few who came to listen, and someone was already driving to beat his face.
        1. Muadipus
          Muadipus 18 October 2013 19: 23
          -1
          Apparently the Russian land will not soon be impoverished by the hard-thinking cattle. Read carefully what people tell you. And please at least occasionally think. From screaming and all shattering morons more harm.
  9. sichevik
    sichevik 16 October 2013 09: 43
    +3
    But the author is 100% right. After watching and reading the news on this subject, I myself had about the same opinion. Somehow everything is roughly worked. Clumsy. A planned provocation is a mile away.
  10. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 16 October 2013 09: 48
    +6
    I watched several videos - the author is right - the action is well planned. Killing in Moscow is probably not a dozen in a day, but here it’s such a big deal. the groups also act competently - besides, the videos are removed and laid out as a report. where just the people - just screaming squeals and blocking by the police, where the militants there are real pogroms and real movement.
    1. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer 16 October 2013 14: 50
      +2
      Similarly thought. It was especially evident from the actions of riot police. The shopping center is thundering, and riot police are cooling down nearby. Usually, right behind the scruff of the neck and into the jail, and then, the riot police commander got hit on the head, and he persuades everything into the matyugalnik. There was clearly an instruction not to press the rioters. Shouting about the pogrom at the vegetable warehouse, and again the police did not particularly interfere, knowing full well that there weren’t any migrants there at night. Then they picked up the most violent and all. By the way, since all nationalist organizations are overflowing with FSB agents, the necessary authorities learned about future pogroms before the residents of Biryulyovo came to protest.
  11. svskor80
    svskor80 16 October 2013 09: 48
    +6
    This version also has the right to life.
  12. Sonik
    Sonik 16 October 2013 09: 48
    0
    The trucks in the photo resemble the dung-fly larvae, and this is after breakfast, Mlyn ...
  13. Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver 16 October 2013 09: 50
    20
    And in Sagra, Kondapoga, Nikolaev, who and what needed? What stars lit there? It's just that these newcomers pulled up all of Russia. We must put them in their place. But some argue that in 1941 it was a provocation, one should not succumb to it. No, this is war! If anyone has not seen, the honorary chairman of this vegetable base Tolboev threatens Muscovites with starvation. He says that he is friends with Putin (this also sounds like a threat). The newcomers own food stores, markets, warehouses, retail space. They have already gone to power (it was previously stated that the head of the Biryulevsky police department was Azerbaijani). Change "Azeri" to "German" or "American". Is that great? Just remember that these are not football legionnaires to whom you can throw a banana, but people on whom the life, health and safety of our loved ones depend.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 10: 36
      +5
      Quote: Andrey from Tver
      And in Sagra, Kondapog, Nikolaev to whom and what was needed? What stars lit there?

      I agree, it will begin now. Again, our people are dumb, and some wiseacres can read between the lines. , well, why do we always have such clever people like the author who consider themselves smarter than everyone and everything ?! I can read the same thing between the lines, do you hear the author? I can tell you more about the history of this database, who is behind it, who steers, who roofs, and I will have information from the primary sources, and not from the custom articles that you offer for reading.
      Here, first of all, the discreditation of power, the disunity of the ethnic group (Russian multinational ethnic group). So the game seems to be going through several gates. Read between the lines, dear comrades. Listen in loud. Love life and do good!
      - the author caved in, well done! Only no one there offered to go to the Kremlin, and if they did, our people didn’t go anywhere, so the author need not worry "there will be no kinetic"!
      1. Virtuous
        16 October 2013 14: 23
        +1
        Oh, I’ll be glad to hear about the history of the base! Write in a personal.

        Caved in, yes. And about the fact that large-scale work is underway to discredit the authorities, I am ready to confirm it separately. (True, they themselves mess) and the church gets nuts - and this is, as it were, the core of the state. I do not like them. I did not vote for them. But they are better than anarchy or liberals. And I don’t want a kina, because mnu will have a ticket in the first row, and there will be a lot of splashes. Cast iron.

        And do not be so aggressive. And we didn’t drink on the Brudershaft, so on you.

        Happiness!
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 14: 52
          +1
          Quote: Virtue
          Oh, I’ll be glad to hear about the history of the base! Write in a personal.
          why, what would you turn everything upside down, didn’t scribble another article so that people would be taken away from the real problem, scribbler .ren? Your opinion in this article is not just an opinion, it is either a paid attempt to justify the inaction of the authorities, or an attempt to hide for a made-up reason because of your cowardice!
          Caved in, yes. And about the fact that large-scale work is underway to discredit the authorities, I am ready to confirm it separately.
          well at least admit it.
          I do not like them. I did not vote for them. But they are better than anarchy or liberals. And I don’t want a kina, because mnu will have a ticket in the first row, and there will be a lot of splashes. Cast iron.

          Do you really decide whether you like or dislike? Are they better than liberals? And who in power did not think of a genius? Surnames to name or guess what? Since I did not vote, then why are you defending? Kina do not want? Do you want cast-iron spray? You will continue to lay out such fantastic scenarios - just these splashes will get. Silence suggest? Shouldn't people be taking to the streets? Again silently offer to wash? And how does it end in your opinion? World peace? Yes, no one would have looked for this Azerbaijani so intensely if people had not taken to the streets, is it really not clear? Yeah, I know, it was necessary to wait for the cops to decide and everything would be ok, though apparently until the next murder of the Russian. What kind of anarchy are you talking about? Nobody was going to go to the Kremlin, people demanded justice, order.
          And do not be so aggressive. And we didn’t drink on the Brudershaft, so on you.
          Happiness!

          And you don’t get a nerd reading between the lines!
          In the meantime, we are waiting for the next murder of a Russian, committed by order of anarchists and liberals, so that, as the author put it, "discredit" our wonderful government and squeeze out another business!
          1. Virtuous
            16 October 2013 18: 37
            -3
            It became uninteresting already from the first paragraph.
            Extremely aggressive verbiage. I communicated with this style at the age of 16-18, during the period of hormonal changes. also asked all the "hot questions". Are you, young man, not a National Bolshevik for an hour?
            I saw these. They love the riffraff and beat harmless Tajiks. But organized Dagestanis or Azerbaijanis, not to mention Chechens, evoke in them a completely different physiological activity and desire for a change of coordinates. And here they are ...

            Do not growl quietly, dear!
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            2. New Russia
              New Russia 16 October 2013 18: 58
              +2
              "I've seen such people. They love to swing and beat harmless Tajiks. But organized Dagestanis or Azerbaijanis, not to mention Chechens, cause them a completely different physiological activity."

              http://lenta.ru/news/2013/10/14/saratov/ 2 дня назад в центре Саратова произошла массовая драка, русские замочили кавказцев. Вроде физиологическая активность такая же)
            3. Ruslan_F38
              Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 20: 33
              +1
              Quote: Virtue
              Do not growl quietly, dear!

              Well, this is a tantrum.
              Special thanks for the young man!
              1. Virtuous
                17 October 2013 13: 04
                0
                not affected.
                you are welcome.
        2. New Russia
          New Russia 16 October 2013 15: 25
          +2
          "And I am ready to confirm separately that there is a large-scale work on discrediting the authorities."
          Our rotten power itself has so discredited itself that it’s worse. Nearly. Migrants will import power and will import until it is shot, who is to blame ???? State Department? You do not know what moods in a society concerning the Caucasians of power and EdRa? Who is to blame? State Department?
    2. Sergey_K
      Sergey_K 16 October 2013 13: 01
      +4
      Absolutely agree. There is no "planned action". Redistribution of markets is not a cause, but a consequence of such incidents.
      It will break through more and more often, and then it will go in full. As we already had. Responsibility for any revolt, revolution lies with the authorities and only with the authorities.

      Puten solves his geopolitical problems at the expense of Russian blood.
    3. goldfinger
      goldfinger 16 October 2013 14: 08
      +1
      Quote: Andrey from Tver
      Change "Azeri" to "German"

      It would be very cool! There would not be such a "boundless mess". The German is naturally an honest businessman from modern Germany! What do you think ?! There are a lot of them, normal, sane foreigners in Belarus. I came across it myself at the Bel OMO-Zeiss plant.
      1. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 17 October 2013 07: 45
        0
        Quote: goldfinger
        Quote: Andrey from Tver
        Change "Azeri" to "German"

        It would be very cool! There would not be such a "boundless mess". The German is naturally an honest businessman from modern Germany! What do you think ?! There are a lot of them, normal, sane foreigners in Belarus. I came across it myself at the Bel OMO-Zeiss plant.

        I had in mind effective German managers from 1941.
  14. major071
    major071 16 October 2013 10: 01
    +8
    Can't solve the problem? Make others decide for you. Or take advantage of the situation. hi Apparently someone decided or took advantage.
  15. IRBIS
    IRBIS 16 October 2013 10: 20
    12
    Profitable, planned, redistribution ... Versions are good. But what about the thousands of brunette migrants, eh? Or is their influx also a planned action? Or is it the consequences of a shitty migration policy of leadership and corruption at the top?
    Do not look in the brain ... brain - it is not there. And there will be many who wish to take advantage of the current situation.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 10: 40
      +2
      Quote: IRBIS
      Profitable, planned, redistribution ... Versions are good. But what about the thousands of brunette migrants, eh? Or is their influx also a planned action? Or is it the consequences of a shitty migration policy of leadership and corruption at the top?
      Do not look in the brain ... brain - it is not there. And there will be many who wish to take advantage of the current situation.

      They apparently have a brain just there in .op, and the migrants were caught up specially for the action! In fact, similar articles with a dozen more "plausible" scenarios can be offered, only the problem will not be solved!
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 16 October 2013 11: 07
      +7
      Quote: IRBIS
      Versions are good. But what about the thousands of brunette migrants, eh? Or is their influx also a planned action? Or is it the consequences of a shitty migration policy of leadership and corruption at the top?

      Greetings, Alexander!
      If there were thousands ... There are already millions of them in Moscow, that’s the whole horror.
    3. Bort radist
      Bort radist 16 October 2013 12: 45
      +2
      Quote: IRBIS
      And there will be many who wish to take advantage of the current situation.

      Article soft translation. They were framed, and so they are not to blame.
      I especially like the prophecy after the capture. The article came out in the morning. Hu from hu understand. Then this passage can be deleted. No left. Seer!!! "If a Tajik or other native of Asia is caught - perhaps - this is the" designated victim ", if a representative of the Caucasus - then ... if a Chinese - then I don't understand anything at all)."
      1. Virtuous
        16 October 2013 13: 39
        +1
        The article was written yesterday in 12 days. About the detention was not in the know. More precisely, about the detention report (this is the message - with professional photographs of the wrecked villain taken with a SLR camera, which, of course, the task force and riot police always have).

        And I did not translate. This shushera got me too.
        They were not framed. You read inattentively. I do not deny having a problem with migrants in the area. They got me sick there back in 2009. I had 4 accidents while driving. Not once with locals - only aliens.

        I say (attention!) PUBLIC RESONANCE WAS ACTIVELY PROMOTED! PEOPLE WERE PROTESTED WHEN LEARNED ABOUT THE CASE!
        How did you find out? There are corpses every day. Nobody knows, but here, look !!!
        And then, the FSB does not work fools. A burst of activity in social networks to track - not to do. And then, in the crowd, guys in a civilian will nibble and twist the soldiers of the ice front with a moment, and the riot police will cut the crowd and disperse the CS. There would be a team.

        I am researching management methods. He shared what he noticed. Some were so excited by this my text, I’m directly surprised.
    4. Virtuous
      16 October 2013 13: 21
      0
      What to do with them? We didn’t bring them here!
      Remember the school joke:
      - Vasya, why did you write "Birds of the Smoke"?
      - Marvanna, there was nothing to say, they smelled ...

      Behind the shopping center "Gromada" near the Prazhskaya metro station, there is a left-hand bus station, invisible from the road. Old Ikarus shuttles ride brunettes along the route Dom-Maskva ... The same thing is in the garage cooperative on Vostryakovsky - right opposite the house 9kor1 near TPP-26. Look at satellite imagery.
      As soon as corruption in the city administration and the Ministry of Internal Affairs is suppressed, they will resolve themselves.

      Example - at the exit from MKAD to Vostryakovsky passage there was a traffic police checkpoint. The road was opened - the point was closed. Why is it needed if wagons go on a new road?
      Look at the root!
  16. Essenger
    Essenger 16 October 2013 10: 37
    +5
    Russians having a numerical superiority of at least 10 to 1 are afraid of migrants.

    What is it? Lack of self-confidence? Are you really that chopped? or take an example from the French or other Europeans? For all that, we respect them, they are not capable of anything except pain for their national football teams. Or maybe I'm wrong about the Europeans (I hope that I'm wrong).

    I began to think about the Eurasian Union, maybe I'm exaggerating Russia's ability to restore the union ...
    1. 31231
      31231 16 October 2013 10: 52
      -2
      The most interesting thing is that this young growth was capable of pogroms only in the evening in a state of drinking. The next day, in the morning, none of these migrant fighters appeared at the vegetable warehouse. Only riot police.
      1. Virtuous
        16 October 2013 13: 40
        +3
        In the morning, Russians are very fond of working work.
        1. 31231
          31231 16 October 2013 16: 46
          -1


          Two-thirds of the student. To hang out with beer, come to adrenaline. I won't even post videos with car coups and the destruction of a shopping center. There are the same "hard workers".
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 16 October 2013 17: 54
            0
            "Two-thirds of the student. They came to hang out with beer, to adrenaline." They came to protest. This is the same as saying that golden youth in mink coats came to the swamp area to arrange a party. Do you convince yourself that they came to hang out or the rest?
            1. 31231
              31231 16 October 2013 22: 47
              +1
              They came to protest.

              They would be better off in the army. To serve. There would be non-Russians and met tightly.
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 10: 53
      10
      Quote: Essenger
      Russians having a numerical superiority of at least 10 to 1 are afraid of migrants.
      What is it? Lack of self-confidence? Are you really that chopped? or take an example from the French or other Europeans?


      Pretty rude, don’t you? The thing is that real Russians are not savages who grab hold of a knife or attack a crowd of just one. Russian is a nation, not rabble. The Russians are fair and always give a chance to correct the lost. But it’s better not to test us for strength - it may end badly. Biryulyovo, Kandopoga, Sagra, many other cities of which we do not know - they proved it.
      1. Sergey_K
        Sergey_K 16 October 2013 13: 05
        +4
        I do not agree. Russians are just like everyone else. I explain on the fingers:

        You beat the churek - come home, and there the task force is already waiting for you. And that’s all, at best, a suspended sentence.
        Churek stabbed Russian - he left for himself. All OK.

        There you have the difference.
      2. Essenger
        Essenger 16 October 2013 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        Biryulyovo, Kandopoga, Sagra, many other cities of which we do not know - they proved it.

        Found something to be proud of

        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        Pretty rude, don’t you?

        If I offended by something, I apologize

        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        Russians are not savages who grab onto a knife or attack a crowd of just one.

        Among Russians, there are also

        I’m not going to interfere in the Russian-Caucasian showdown, or Russian-migrant, or whatever you want. I am only writing at such a level of national thinking; you need to forget about integration projects.
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 15: 17
          +1
          Quote: Essenger
          Found something to be proud of

          No need to pull out of context - this is not pride - this is anger and bitterness.

          If I offended by something, I apologize


          In my opinion, they offended the Russians, and unreasonably, I don’t need your apology - just apologize in order to comply with the rules of decency - leave your apology to yourself. If you do not understand, read your comment carefully.
          Among Russians, there are also

          There are, but they are disproportionately few. But the mentality, values, and the very essence of the Russian person are different. It makes no sense to compare.

          I’m not going to interfere in the Russian-Caucasian showdown, or Russian-migrant, or whatever you want. I am only writing at such a level of national thinking; you need to forget about integration projects.
          and we do not need such integration processes based on the destruction of our spiritual values ​​and our identity, on disrespect for everything Russian, on the blood of Russian people. Let them go to integrate into Europe, America, the world is big, and Russia will live without them.
          1. Essenger
            Essenger 16 October 2013 16: 43
            +3
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Let them go to integrate into Europe, America, the world is big, and Russia will live without them.


            OK, yes I myself am opposed to integration with the Russian Federation.
          2. Virtuous
            17 October 2013 13: 14
            0
            That is in vain you do oppositions. Russians are non-Russians.
            Russians mostly live here. Abroad, Russians are called everyone who has left the territory of the former USSR — Jews and Asians, and Highlanders and Chukchi.

            There, in Azerbaijan or Armenia or Chechnya, those who live there permanently and are busy with work are also very good people. They live by the laws (with a local accent) very often are friendly to people without weapons. RIDDLE is coming here. I repeat the thought from the article. And this rabble here behaves like a miner in a mine with respect to coal - hammer it with a jackhammer in order to get the maximum amount. And he does not care about the community of layers that has developed there since the Cambrian period.
            No need to say that other nations are bad. At home they are very personal. Some good guests can even treat a little man and give his wife for a while ...
    3. Apollo
      Apollo 16 October 2013 11: 00
      +6
      Good morning everybody hi

      I read yesterday’s indignant comments about how scumbag and rot killed Yegor Shcherbakov in front of the girl. Sorry Yegor, he was still ahead. From my face I offer sincere condolences to the family of the deceased.
      The killer will probably suffer a well-deserved punishment so that it would be disgraceful for others, preferably the death penalty, but alas, the death penalty in Russia has been replaced by life punishment.
      The mayor of the city and other responsible persons should come to the crime scene, but not one did not come and did not express the family's late sympathy and apology. I believe that the authorities are guilty of everything, why yes because it itself created acceptable conditions for a kind of scumbag. order and law during the 24 hours, not only in Biryulovo but throughout Russia. I also understand the indignation of ordinary citizens, ordinary citizens want security for themselves and their families. These are elementary requirements.
      Further, literally today, no where else, but in the same Biryulyovo, there was a blatant incident hereinafter.

      In Biryulyovo found the body of a man with stab wounds
      The body of a man with multiple stab wounds was found near the railways in the metropolitan area of ​​Biryulyovo Vostochnoe, a law enforcement source said on Wednesday.
      “On October 15, from the duty station Tsaritsyno and Pokrovskaya station at 6-ya Radialnaya Street, information was received that a corpse of a man was found on the Kursk railway section,” a police source told RIA Novosti.
      Arriving at the scene, the police found the body of a man with multiple stab wounds.
      According to preliminary data, we are talking about a native of the Republic of Uzbekistan.
      http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/10/16/655116.html

      Whoever he was, even if he was a citizen of another state, but he was stabbed to death as an animal. I ask the Russian law enforcement agencies to find and expose the criminal or criminals. I also ask forum users to give an assessment of what has happened.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 16 October 2013 11: 27
        +5
        Quote: Apollon
        I also ask forum users to give an assessment of what has happened.

        Just wanted to post an article about a dead Uzbek. The murder of Yegor and Uzbek on the conscience of the authorities and those who write such articles that these are not popular protests, but provocations, seizure of business, discrediting the authorities ... - apparently they forgot that these are primarily human lives ..
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 16 October 2013 11: 44
        -1
        Apollon, your dreams of an exemplary punishment for the murderer are most likely not destined to come true - yesterday it sounded on TV that the murderer faces "up to 15 years in prison" - well, a very "harsh" punishment. Yes, and those 15 years will not sit - pay off and marry "exemplary" behavior.
        1. Syrdon
          Syrdon 16 October 2013 12: 19
          +1
          Do you know any other terms in the Criminal Code provided for the murder? if yes, share with us)
      3. Virtuous
        16 October 2013 13: 45
        +2
        Here, please, confirmation of my thesis. Where is the media coverage of this case?
        It is a pity and the Uzbek too - they are, in general, hard workers, like the Tajiks. He arrived to earn money home, and now nothing will be obtained at all, he also left orphans.

        But for something, nobody is going to smash anything about this. (not, well, of course, he's an alien)
      4. Botanologist
        Botanologist 16 October 2013 23: 07
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        but they killed him like an animal.


        Let's wait for the results of the investigation. Judging by the description of the corpse, they could have killed their own.
    4. major071
      major071 16 October 2013 11: 12
      +4
      The Russians themselves are a very peaceful people. We have never waged a single predatory war. Our mentality is different. We slowly harness, but drive fast. And God forbid the Russian people run out of patience, then I do not envy those who have experienced this patience. We’ll drive very fast. angry
      And do not judge people by individual persons. fool
      1. nazgul-ishe
        nazgul-ishe 16 October 2013 12: 46
        +1
        Peaceful people who have won many wars but always pay tribute to the vanquished. Just a shame!
        1. major071
          major071 16 October 2013 13: 51
          +5
          Our people do not pay tribute. To whom do we pay and how much? Give not unfounded examples. At the same time, it is not necessary to equal the Russian people and a handful of liberalists and the like, who sold Russia and are now trying to put Russia under the west along with them. stop
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      3. Essenger
        Essenger 16 October 2013 14: 43
        +1
        Quote: major071
        We have never waged a single predatory war.

        Are you in all seriousness? or a victim of the exam?
      4. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 16 October 2013 15: 18
        0
        Well, here you, dear Major 071, were a little deceived. There were a Chinese campaign and the accession of Korea at the end of the 19th century (these were more punitive expeditions)
    5. godun
      godun 16 October 2013 11: 47
      +4
      Even a lion is afraid of hyenas if they approach him in a flock. Migrants rarely walk one at a time, and we most often walk alone. In Biryulyovo, during the events, have you seen many migrants? Well, who is afraid of whom?
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    1. Apollo
      Apollo 16 October 2013 11: 05
      +4
      Infographics for thinking
    2. Virtuous
      16 October 2013 13: 53
      0
      Ethnicity (Greek - people) - a group of people united by common signs: objective or subjective. Various directions in ethnology (ethnography) include in these signs origin, language, culture, territory of residence, self-awareness, etc. (Wikipedia)

      PS I - not pro-government scum, choose expressions.
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 16 October 2013 14: 33
        -1
        I share pro-government scum and temporarily misled) I do not hate people because of political views, but I'm just sick of cheap propaganda, you are not like a person like Fedorov or Starikov, I sincerely apologize. Moreover, the Putinists are also violent, and think so that everyone who is against the power to shoot or disperse, and sincerely resent that there is an opposition (in the good sense of the word), consider it ungrateful) These fanatics do not deserve a name other than scum.
        1. Virtuous
          17 October 2013 13: 17
          0
          I really like the work of Starikov. Great analyst. He is not sick of anyone, he is very educated and operates on facts, not emotions. And somehow I can’t call him a fanatic. A man works, has his own opinion, different from yours.

          Emotions are the main enemy of people. They do not allow to develop and respond adequately. You are very susceptible to them, and this can play a trick on you once.

          Z.Y. I am glad that the transition to personality is canceled.
  18. New Russia
    New Russia 16 October 2013 11: 05
    +4
    The illegitimate Sobyaka made a special arrogance and just an open spit in the face of people, saying the words after which you just want to kill him when they asked him why he did not come to the people that day:

    “Where to come? To the market? Deal with the nationalists, wave a club? This is the task of professionals who have done their job well. ”

    This one called these people nationalists and fascists:


    I have no words. After all, half there were women, some even with children who were not going to smash anyone. And this lying cattle smears them all in one world, who voted for him? How can you vote for this animal? Yes, no one voted for him, 20% of the voters of which 10 are winded. Insolent illegitimate
    1. Virtuous
      17 October 2013 13: 35
      +1
      Nuuu, I run the risk of again running into accusations of Putinism-Sobyanism, but I'll say it's good that he didn't come. More than once I took part in measures to eliminate any emergencies and other stocks. The big bosses will come - the trumpet. Work stopped. Everyone starts to entertain him. And he walks, pokes with a manicured claw at the "neporryadok", and "picks up everyone." fuck he was not needed there. before it was necessary. When appointing corrupt monsters to the district administration, it was necessary to emphasize their position.

      I repeat again - corrupt officials are to blame for everything. in everything. The aliens know that all the "questions" can be solved. Why then obey the laws? It is very convenient not to comply with the laws, where everyone follows them.
      This is our enemy's gravel! By the way, what officials in Biryulyovo what nationality?
  19. Muadipus
    Muadipus 16 October 2013 11: 17
    -1
    Thanks to the author for an interesting article and for not clouded, sober thoughts.
    “How lucky the authorities are that people never think.” - A. Hitler
    1. Virtuous
      16 October 2013 13: 55
      0
      Thanks for support!
    2. Muadipus
      Muadipus 16 October 2013 14: 00
      0
      For the first time for Hitler, my teacher in Russian was me. It was necessary to write an essay about A.S. Pushkin. I rummaged in Christomats and came across a quote from A. Hitler about Pushkin. I don’t remember the quote now, but he spoke very positively about the Russian poet. Well, I thought that even if such a negative character speaks so well of Pushkin, then it does him even more honor. (Just then we were told in history about the honor of the Nazis, the Soviet soldier - the last defender of the Brest Fortress). So, as a pioneer, I cited Hitler’s quote about Pushkin, for which 2 (two-fold) safely slapped me. I personally went to the director, proved that the assessment should be put for the presentation of thoughts and literacy, and not for the point of view. Rating changed 3 :)
  20. godun
    godun 16 October 2013 11: 29
    0
    The article has logic, confirmation of this video, where people are purposefully taken to the base, and the actions of the authorities confirm this. But from this, the problem with migrants does not become smaller. Neither in Pugachev, nor in Kondopoga and other similar.
  21. understudy
    understudy 16 October 2013 11: 30
    +4
    Everything is too simple for the author and ... a real diversion from the topic of "migrants". Someone there unknown divides something, but they are all so fluffy out of themselves and purely by chance fell under the distribution.
    The so-called "tolerance" is good in moderation. Approximately the way it was in the USSR. And when it is rudely planted to please "newcomers", with infringement of the rights and norms of behavior of "local" - expect trouble.
    1. Virtuous
      16 October 2013 14: 04
      +2
      Yes, I didn’t take anything away. The theme of migrants is central. Tolerastia is also not my diagnosis.

      I mean, someone encourages to rush to barricades. And this someone is very rarely a patriot. Alas...
  22. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 16 October 2013 11: 41
    +1
    it seemed to me a very pretentious detention, riot policemen pointedly put his feet on him, ask questions, load them into a MI helicopter, unload from the spacecraft
  23. pifon
    pifon 16 October 2013 11: 41
    -1
    I agree with the Author.
    Respect!
  24. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 16 October 2013 12: 12
    +2
    Quote: Botanologist
    Note that the common people promoted the "banal murder", the government, as usual, ran after them. It is a fact that they have solved their questions along the way, but do not harness the horse behind the cart.
    The article sets an investigation instead of a cause. What for?

    Never and nowhere does a people themselves spin anything, it’s time to understand this already, in order to gather people, the organizers need agitators, but it is they who never do anything for nothing.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 October 2013 23: 13
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Never and nowhere does a nation itself spin anything, it’s time to understand this already,


      For so many years I have been engaged in elections, namely the "field", and so, I can say that the people themselves are promoting a lot of things. The only question is the so-called. "train". If it is needed, the government or some group is connected. If not needed, they just watch.

      Quote: vladsolo56
      we need agitators, organizers, but it is they who never do anything for nothing


      They do. When not in the field and there is nothing to do - they can do it.
  25. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 16 October 2013 12: 24
    +1
    For some reason, it is immediately believed that it was so.
  26. kirpich
    kirpich 16 October 2013 12: 32
    0
    And what is there that is incomprehensible? The base is located very strategically. Here you and the Moscow Ring Road, and Warsaw, and the Kursk railway direction is at hand. Not understood? And where is our check-in to NEW MOSCOW? That's right - the new Simferopolka.
  27. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 16 October 2013 12: 39
    +1
    Kind! Whoever shares it, one fact inspires hope - families with children at the meeting were clearly not paid and puzzled, they expressed their discontent, which borders on anger already. And they were heard, and if this base is demolished, and a complex has grown up in its place - the effect has been achieved for people - this whole mess will cease to exist near their houses and around their children! And in muddy water it is always easier to catch minnows - everyone knows this! Just don’t mix it up, you can stir it up so that there will be no way back!
    1. Virtuous
      16 October 2013 14: 00
      0
      God forbid. I would return to this topic in half a year. Housing estate ... interesting ... Let's see. I would be glad to make a mistake.
  28. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 16 October 2013 12: 39
    0
    Kind! Whoever shares it, one fact inspires hope - families with children at the meeting were clearly not paid and puzzled, they expressed their discontent, which borders on anger already. And they were heard, and if this base is demolished, and a complex has grown up in its place - the effect has been achieved for people - this whole mess will cease to exist near their houses and around their children! And in muddy water it is always easier to catch minnows - everyone knows this! Just don’t mix it up, you can stir it up so that there will be no way back!
    1. Neighbor
      Neighbor 16 October 2013 13: 54
      0
      Such a base should be placed on the one hundred and first kilometer in the quarantine zone. And from there, by transport of LICENSED MOSCOW firms, products must be delivered to places of sale or storage. Naturally, all necessary control measures will have to be carried out in this quarantine zone.
  29. AlexxxNik
    AlexxxNik 16 October 2013 13: 29
    +2
    kill a bunch of rabbits with one share, and now remember, is this the handwriting?
  30. Genry
    Genry 16 October 2013 13: 41
    -1
    The article gives reason to think. Good version. But no matter how it was the tip of the iceberg, another protector like Chirikova will come up.
  31. MG42
    MG42 16 October 2013 13: 54
    +3
    <Something is being divided in Biryulyovo!> Vegetable base, maybe the land is needed for building?
    On Sunday, the protesters began to break windows in the Biryuza shopping center, a police officer was wounded. The crowd broke windows and knocked down the door in the shopping center in Biryulyovo Zapadnoye in search of the murderer of Muscovite Yegor Shcherbakov. The police prevented the attempted pogrom.

    in general Moscow is an expensive city and real estate is there Very expensive like the earth, they can kill for it ..
  32. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 16 October 2013 14: 21
    +2
    If things go like this, the combination of the words "Russian" and "nationalist" will become inseparable and, accordingly, common nouns.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 16 October 2013 15: 51
      +2
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      If things go like this, the combination of the words "Russian" and "nationalist" will become inseparable and, accordingly, common nouns.

      Let "even though they call them pots, they just don't put them in the oven."
      Let them call me a "Russian nationalist" three times, just to end this occupation. Precisely "occupation", otherwise it cannot be called.
  33. bogumil
    bogumil 16 October 2013 14: 45
    0
    "And only a few people understand how and what really happens there." ...
    The author immodestly tells us that he is in the know that he is in the backstage and that he is generally on the topic))). Meanwhile, after reading this conspiracy thesis, I once again grinned to myself: a striking inability to reduce the facts to a common denominator, ignoring and trifles and facts and simple information visible on the surface. In a word, the inability to put together a common puzzle is obvious))). Analytics with logic in a quarrel)))
    1. Virtuous
      16 October 2013 18: 12
      +1
      Yes, and my grandmother also matches with my matches ...

      And anything other than personal complaints? Well, for example, a refutation or a counterversion?
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 16 October 2013 18: 18
        -1
        I can refute. Check out the video in my comment just above. People are genuinely indignant at the crime of migrants and Caucasians in their area, women and the elderly. Did they pay you? Was that crying woman paid too? In your opinion, people in our country are outraged only for the money, but in general everything suits everyone? Do you really believe that?
        1. pl675
          pl675 16 October 2013 19: 00
          +1
          2000th year
          the death of the Kursk submarine - let's remember the beginning Putin. his words about the weeping widows - "these prostitutes were paid ten dollars."

          the same rake, only in a different garden.
        2. 31231
          31231 16 October 2013 23: 12
          -1
          People are genuinely indignant at the crime of migrants and Caucasians in their area, women and the elderly. Did they pay you?



          This one is also outraged.
          But after Nerus distinguished himself, he did not seek to take money from him. Yes, and asked for an interview. I feel and ask for a reward for Old. Holy man.
          We cannot have other Russians.
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 16 October 2013 23: 27
            0
            Tie with conspiracy theories) I am disgusted with your worldview in which all people are bought and sold, it is erroneous and delusional, but it is not for me to treat you. When next time the abscess breaks through, let's see what you say. Although the little pustules erupt somewhere every day, it won’t end in anything good
  34. kNow
    kNow 16 October 2013 15: 41
    -3
    Last night I talked with a relative who works in one of these bases. I asked about the situation. His answer is that some of those in power built a new base and invited merchants from Biryulyovo to move there. Since traders made certain investments at their points, they refused to move. For which they were promised a problem that was not slow to manifest themselves.
    I don’t know whether they paid attention or not - but a real war is going on around the outlets - Cherkizon, Matveevsky, Biryulyovo.
  35. Neighbor
    Neighbor 16 October 2013 17: 29
    +1
    The capital in Voronezh !!!! Or to Orenburg.
  36. Vittt
    Vittt 16 October 2013 17: 41
    +2
    Quote: kNow
    Last night I talked with a relative who works in one of these bases. I don’t know whether they paid attention or not - but a real war is going on around the outlets - Cherkizon, Matveevsky, Biryulyovo.

    Tell me, is the "real" war going on between the Slavs?
    1. kNow
      kNow 17 October 2013 07: 02
      0
      Quote: Vittt
      Quote: kNow
      Last night I talked with a relative who works in one of these bases. I don’t know whether they paid attention or not - but a real war is going on around the outlets - Cherkizon, Matveevsky, Biryulyovo.

      Tell me, is the "real" war going on between the Slavs?

      The war between the entourage of the new mayor and the "friends" of the old
  37. ioann1
    ioann1 16 October 2013 20: 07
    0


    Vegetable bases and much more work for the collapse of Russia. We all need to think hard about what would happen if the Biryulyovo area hadn’t been cordoned off by the special forces and the Navalny’s troops were sent in there ... We are slowly being pushed to a civil war.
  38. Letterksi
    Letterksi 16 October 2013 21: 57
    0
    Rave. An attempt to transfer from the plane of real problems to the plane of redistribution of the market. It is like a single history textbook that the Battle of Kulikovo is a struggle for the market. sad

    Biryulyovo- this is primarily a blow to power, and not a division of the market. The authorities would never have allowed such a blow under the breath due to someone’s money showdown. Very expensive image price. When the people were clearly, if not destroyed, then the image of a holy, strong, wrestling president who understands all popular problems was certainly tarnished. Here, you can’t even blame Medvedev for blame, as was done during the Manezh. The president decided to ignore this event altogether. fool Sobyanin was thrown under the tanks. He mumbled something in the spirit, well, like this is a question of security officials, frostbitten Natsik, and other nonsense. In short, he can now report that the Muscovites were given an answer.

    No friends, this is something else. This human fear is stronger than the fear of imprisonment in AvtoZak and riot police batons. What caused it? - a stupid political national course. The course, which is already impossible to describe, except for the planned state sabotage and clashing of different nationalities by the foreheads. It is time to already find out who is to blame for carrying out this destructive nat. politicians? Who is trying to make Syria or Kosovo from Russia? Soon, no Fedorov and Starikov will be able to fool the people of Russia and fence off the main media fighter and his entourage with all sorts of Surkov and others

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    2. New Russia
      New Russia 16 October 2013 22: 28
      0
      "When the people were, if not destroyed, then the image of a saint, strong, who understands all people's problems, a fighter president, was definitely tarnished."
      Yes, there is already nothing to "soak", everything is in the flood and the Amur region sank) even much earlier)
  39. Manul
    Manul 17 October 2013 02: 05
    +2
    The point is not in the specific situation. For the problem is not in this particular murder, but in the "law enforcement" and other bodies. And in everything that is attached to this. And not even in the fact that people begin to see clearly that the manipulations of our experiences are being correctly managed " authorities ". The fact is that there is no way out. We will vote differently, or we will take up the pitchfork and burn the Kremlin ... No. There is no way out. A bunch of scoundrels who destroyed the state for the sake of money have gained unprecedented POWER! And Putin is just an instrument there. - a chisel that removes shavings in Their machine. We can now - understand what is happening, keep faith in our future, resist as much as we can to everything that is wrong that is happening next to us, teach children, remember the past, love to protect the Old Men to whom we owe our lives and hope for the future, not to succumb to provocations, and at the same time to go out on the street when necessary. Biryulyovo is a very difficult moment. If only paid ones came out there, the "authorities" would have decided that we were sintered, and with us you can do whatever you want. If the people went to smash everything and everyone - even more weighty in their hands. But the fact that the People leaped is good. They tensed a little. Know, think, look, listen. Communicate. And may Love keep everyone. To yourself, to your relatives, to the Fatherland and the Earth. And imagine and dream and draw your state. MOST IMPORTANT! Create Him! And for the glory of our Motherland, in memory of our fathers and mothers, heroes who shed blood, geniuses who gave everything for what we now have. You must understand - what do you want! And when you scream and when you cry and when you laugh .The time comes to defend your country. Your families. Your people. We are losing this War. But there is no point in surrendering. We need our country. And they think that it is Theirs. "Fuck you! (S)."
    1. Virtuous
      17 October 2013 13: 43
      0
      That's what I wanted when I wrote this article!
      Thank you!
      1. Doctor71
        Doctor71 19 October 2013 17: 01
        0
        Good day. Article big +. It is pleasant to see that the situation is not considered from the side of great-power patriotism-chauvinism. Thank.
  40. Doctor71
    Doctor71 19 October 2013 17: 04
    0
    This is all the intrigues of the Mossado-Tsereushnikov from the Stasi MI-6. Definitely smile