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The Rubezh missile system in the light of international treaties

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In the early days of October, several Newsdirectly related to Russian strategic nuclear forces. On October 1, the US State Department published the latest data on the quantitative indicators of nuclear weapons in Russia and the United States. A little later, information regarding some aspects of testing missiles by our country got into the public domain. In addition, both news of early October are most directly related to earlier events that have occurred in recent times.


The Rubezh missile system in the light of international treaties


As of September 1, according to the US State Department, the strategic nuclear forces of Russia have 473 deployed carriers of atomic weapons. The total number of unwrapped and unwrapped media equals 894 units. Deployed carriers can deliver warheads to 1400 targets. In the United States, 809 media from 1015 is currently deployed. The rockets and bombers deployed and ready for combat carry a total of 1688 warheads. In accordance with the START-3 agreement, Russia and the United States must bring the number of carriers and nuclear warheads to the following quantities. The total number of carriers in each country should not exceed 800 units. 700 of them can be simultaneously deployed and equipped with 1550 warheads.

Considering the published data, it is easy to notice one interesting feature of the ongoing implementation of the conditions of the START-3 agreement. After previous cuts in strategic nuclear forces, as well as after the specific situation of the past years, the US is ahead of Russia in all three points: in the number of carriers, including deployed, and in the number of deployed warheads. Moreover, Russian strategic nuclear forces do not fit into the terms of the agreement for just one point - the total number of carriers exceeds the allowed. At the same time, the number of deployed carriers and warheads does not reach the prescribed values. This is especially pronounced in the case of unwrapped media, the actual number of which (473 units) is significantly less than the allowed 700.

This discrepancy in numbers suggests that over the coming years, Russia may not only not reduce the number of deployed carriers and nuclear warheads, but also increase it, remaining within the framework of START-3 conditions. The simplest way to strengthen nuclear forces is to increase the number of aircraft, missiles and submarine rocket carriers on duty. Indeed, subject to the availability of a certain stock of missiles in warehouses, this will improve the quantitative indicators of the country's nuclear shield. At the same time, the field of nuclear weapons and their means of delivery has a number of characteristic features. Therefore, the available opportunities are better used to improve both quantitative and qualitative aspects.

The difference between the required and actual quantitative indicators can be filled by developing and building new carriers and warheads. Probably, the military and political leadership of Russia intends to develop nuclear forces in this way. In early October, a number of Russian media circulated information about the new contract of the Ministry of Defense. As reported, the insurance company Ingosstrakh won the tender of the military for insurance of several launches of strategic missiles. In addition, a list of types of missiles, the launches of which will be insured, was made public. Among the indices and designations already familiar to the general public, there was no previously encountered official sources. According to media reports, Ingosstrakh will insure the launch (or launches) of the RS-26 rocket. This designation was first published by The Washington Free Beacon in March of this year. Then, with reference to sources in American intelligence, it was asserted that Russia was developing some kind of medium-range missile RS-26, which could contradict the existing international agreement.

In early summer, the Russian military and defense industries confirmed the existence of a new ballistic missile project. At the same time, according to official information, the Rubezh project involves the creation of a complex with an intercontinental ballistic missile. Because of this, the new project does not contradict the treaty between the United States and Russia, which prohibits the development and operation of medium and short-range missiles. The available information about the tests of the Rubezh complex, as well as about other aspects of the domestic nuclear program, allow us to draw some conclusions. First of all, there is no longer any doubt that the PC-26 index is an alternative designation of a rocket, known as the Frontier.

After adopting the RS-24 Yars complex, the Rubezh PC-26 system became a new project of the domestic defense industry in the field of missile weapons, attracting increased attention of specialists and the public. The rocket, developed by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering, is currently being tested. Over the past two years, four test launches were conducted, one of which ended in an accident. In the early summer of the current year, shortly after the fourth test launch, it was claimed that another rocket would be launched before the end of the year. Probably, this launch was insured, according to the press, on 180 million rubles.

The tests of the PC-26 “Frontier” missile have not yet been completed, but the plans of the military department are already known. Soon after the end of the tests of the new missile complex, the Ministry of Defense intends to adopt it. Next year it is planned to deploy the first regiment of the Strategic Missile Forces, armed with new missiles. Thus, over the coming months, the Russian strategic nuclear forces will receive a new delivery system with new warheads. Some sources claim that the PC-26 rocket carries a separable warhead with maneuvering warheads of individual guidance. For obvious reasons, we cannot yet speak about the veracity of this information. In any case, some other information about the Frontier project may contradict the version of the existence of a split head part of the rocket.

The adoption of the PC-26 missile and the start of its mass production will make it possible to quickly eliminate the lag in the number of deployed carriers and warheads. In addition, the new missile system will increase the combat potential of the Strategic Missile Forces, which should have a positive impact on the state of all strategic nuclear forces of Russia. As a result, it will be possible to bring the quantitative indicators of nuclear weapons and delivery vehicles to the maximum level corresponding to the terms of the START-3 agreement, as well as to raise the qualitative aspects by using the higher characteristics of the new weapons. The existing Russian-American agreement requires that the number of delivery vehicles and warheads be brought to the required value by 2018. By this time, we should expect the construction and transfer to the missile forces of a large number of RS-26 complexes.


On the materials of the sites:
http://interfax.ru/
http://ria.ru/
http://state.gov/
http://freebeacon.com/
http://ng.ru/
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  1. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 15 October 2013 07: 20
    16
    More fog and dust need to be let in FOR THE USA and in fact it is necessary to conduct business so that in the future no US missile defense could stop our strike. ANSWERING BACK.
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv 15 October 2013 12: 57
      -4
      Yesterday on REN TV in "Live Topic" an excellent analysis of the Chinese army was carried out. And so far Russia is only capable of nuclear weapons to oppose this army.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 15 October 2013 19: 28
        11
        Quote: mhpv
        Yesterday on REN TV

        Hmm, personally, I would not trust this channel, given what kind of programs it regularly goes through ...
        1. Mhpv
          Mhpv 15 October 2013 23: 52
          0
          Quote: Albert1988
          Hmm, personally, I would not trust this channel, given what kind of programs it regularly goes through ...


          Nobody convinces you to trust this channel, you watch the analyzes of specialists and not correspondents, analyze and draw conclusions. I didn’t offer you "Ural dumplings" or "Comedy Club" to watch. Although you are a liar Albert, if he knows what programs regularly go on it ...
          Let's say today there was a "Live theme" again by Prokopenko where it was said that Russia until the 16th century did not know vodka at all (they used light honey drinks) and Europe whipped it with might and main and now Russia is in 19th place in terms of alcohol consumption per person per year after European countries, or this you the same would not trust you so better that in Russia all the alcoholics?
          Still, watch a video about the Chinese army and then teach others who to trust!
          1. Pesnyadv
            Pesnyadv 16 October 2013 05: 58
            +2
            In the late 90s, I had to touch on the vodka theme in the West.
            He collected information about the prospects for the supply of our alcoholic beverages to the West.
            They came to the conclusion that 90% of alcohol in the USA, Australia and Europe is smuggling or other gray schemes.
            The exception is elite varieties.
            Otherwise, it is UNFAVORABLE to produce alcohol.
          2. Albert1988
            Albert1988 16 October 2013 10: 16
            0
            I read and watched a lot about the Chinese army. By the way, estimates vary greatly - from the likes that China is a super-duper military power, to the fact that the Chinese army is so far ahead only in number, and everything else, say, ... is "made in China", so any competent specialist can submit information can be as he wants or as required by the customers of the material.
            Quote: mhpv
            Although you are a liar, Albert if you know what programs regularly go on him.

            The "live theme" of the program may be good, but it's enough for me that the dregs "about aliens" and about how "Chinese sages 4000 years ago conspired how to take over the world by 2030" is enough for me.
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 15 October 2013 13: 46
      17
      Quote: Lech from our city
      More fog and dust need to be let in FOR THE USA and in fact it is necessary to conduct business so that in the future no US missile defense could stop our strike. ANSWERING BACK.


      No fog needed. It is necessary to clearly indicate our phi for any overseas pretzel. And in general it is possible to conduct a dialogue with arrogant Saxons only by waving a good dubai in front of the muzzle of the latter, the latter do not understand other communication.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 15 October 2013 14: 56
        +9
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        No fog needed. It is necessary to clearly indicate our phi for any overseas pretzel. And in general it is possible to conduct a dialogue with arrogant Saxons only by waving a good dubai in front of the muzzle of the latter, the latter do not understand other communication.

        I absolutely support! We must not hide, but we must advertise. The leadership of the East Kazakhstan region and Strategic Missile Forces needs to create an Internet resource with free access for everyone to detailed descriptions of the capabilities of Russia's nuclear missile forces, with computer animation of possible options for using various separate and joint forces and especially their consequences for different countries.
        1. bif
          bif 15 October 2013 16: 47
          +3
          I agree. As for the Frontier, already about six months ago, the top officials of the state trained our "partners" and pleasantly delighted the public about their early withdrawal from the treaty on the limitation of medium and short-range ballistic missiles, or subtly hinted at changes in this treaty. So the PR campaign is counted.
          1. clidon
            clidon 15 October 2013 17: 35
            +3
            "Rubezh" does not violate this agreement, and accordingly, it will not have to leave anything. A stick is two-edged and worth thinking a hundred times before tearing it.
        2. luka095
          luka095 15 October 2013 19: 57
          +2
          I completely agree. And not just to advertise - not to sell. A PR to the fullest! Especially if the games create the appropriate ...
          1. rubin6286
            rubin6286 1 November 2013 19: 56
            +1
            The pioneers were taken on an excursion to the rocket section. They walk around the control room, look at different bulbs and buttons.
            The ensign says to them: "Don't try to press this big button!" As soon as he went out somewhere, the pioneer Vasya immediately pressed this button. An ensign ran in and shouted: "Who did it!" Nobody is recognized. He says: Well, h..with her, with Italy. "
        3. rubin6286
          rubin6286 1 November 2013 19: 50
          0
          Maybe it’s easier for everyone to admit to the Strategic Missile Forces and VKO objects. Let them go, look, take pictures. You aren’t ... eh, brother?
        4. ty60
          ty60 19 January 2015 18: 26
          0
          In terms of advertising for Hindus and Iran
      2. Firstvanguard
        Firstvanguard 16 October 2013 08: 43
        -1
        And in general it is possible to conduct a dialogue with arrogant Saxons only by waving a good dubai in front of the muzzle of the latter, the latter do not understand other communication.

        Fu, how rude.
        We agree to engage in a constructive dialogue with our British partners, provided that we deeply modernize our existing tactical and strategic missile systems and equip the Russian Armed Forces with the latest number of shock weapons systems. Something like this hi
        For those who disagree on a constructive dialogue, an ice pick with courier delivery laughing
  2. Alikovo
    Alikovo 15 October 2013 07: 53
    +8
    Our strategic nuclear forces are constantly updated, and it pleases.
  3. Very old
    Very old 15 October 2013 08: 40
    +3
    Good. And so that they don’t show us teeth. That was, than to knock them out
  4. erased
    erased 15 October 2013 08: 49
    +7
    The growth of quantitative and qualitative nuclear forces pleases. But who does this shield protect if Russian people are killed with impunity on the streets of Russian cities? And without any military equipment.
    1. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 15 October 2013 14: 36
      -10 qualifying.
      and on the streets of St. Petersburg, neo-Nazis and fascists kill ordinary vegetable dealers, and children throw stones at street cleaners.
      1. biznaw
        biznaw 15 October 2013 20: 06
        -2
        Why are you minusing a friend? what is he not telling the truth? What is Nazism in fashion now, but what about bad internationalism?
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 15 October 2013 21: 37
          -2
          Quote: biznaw
          Why are you minusing a friend? what is he not telling the truth? What is Nazism in fashion now, but what about bad internationalism?

          Look at yourself in the mirror "tovrisch" and think if you are a friend to us.
      2. wk-083
        wk-083 15 October 2013 21: 38
        +3
        And these unsuccessful traders shove the drugs to these same children, and St. Petersburg women are fucked out of control.
    2. Very old
      Very old 15 October 2013 15: 41
      -1
      Erased, this other system should work. And it ... Well, YOU know it yourself (Lord, didn’t you come up with Corruption, Roofing and other things?)
    3. ver_
      ver_ 16 October 2013 12: 10
      -1
      There is a big difference between God's gift and fried eggs ...
  5. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 15 October 2013 08: 54
    +3
    Nuclear forces protect against external aggression - but there is still internal aggression that is no less dangerous against it, so far we are defenseless thanks to the policies of the current Kremlin leadership.
    Here there is a very great danger of drawing our people into various conflicts, and I consider this a direct fault or perhaps the incompetence of the government and its immediate leader.
    1. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 15 October 2013 14: 38
      -13 qualifying.
      Don't you think your fears are exaggerated? Against what kind of threat does the Russian Federation have no protection and who has it, please use examples
      1. ty60
        ty60 19 January 2015 18: 33
        0
        Against the internal. The problems of the Caucasus have not been completely resolved, the diasporas are assimilated up to Magadan. It is unsolvable by either Bulava or Yars. Kazan. Saratov region, Pugachev. Sotsialka decides not Sun
    2. poquello
      poquello 15 October 2013 20: 38
      +2
      Quote: Lech from our city
      Nuclear forces protect against external aggression - but there is still internal aggression that is no less dangerous against it, so far we are defenseless thanks to the policies of the current Kremlin leadership.
      Here there is a very great danger of drawing our people into various conflicts, and I consider this a direct fault or perhaps the incompetence of the government and its immediate leader.


      "The Wahhabis planned to set up an explosion at one of the largest chemical weapons storage and destruction facilities in Russia. A case was initiated, two natives of the North Caucasus who were planning to leave to 'study terrorism' in Syria were detained. Hundreds of people could become victims of the crime."
      http://www.vz.ru/society/2013/10/15/654976.html
  6. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 15 October 2013 08: 54
    +3
    Yes, it's time to end the game with only one goal: go for diapers "partners", soon you will need them in large quantities. So it would be in domestic politics to resolve issues with migrants!
  7. air wolf
    air wolf 15 October 2013 09: 07
    +4
    If we lose the Strategic Missile Forces, then we will get a kapets.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 15 October 2013 09: 53
      +3
      Quote: air wolf
      If we lose the Strategic Missile Forces, then we will get a kapets.

      Quietly, we still have RPKNs and strategic missile bombers
      1. wk-083
        wk-083 15 October 2013 21: 46
        -12 qualifying.
        Open your eyes! There are 16 old TU-160 left, which practically do not fly.
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 15 October 2013 22: 53
          +4
          Quote: wk-083
          Open your eyes! There are 16 old TU-160 left, which practically do not fly.

          We really have 16 Tu-160s, they all fly and are being upgraded gradually to the Tu-160M ​​version, as well as
          about 30 Tu-95 should be upgraded to version Tu-95MSM
        2. ty60
          ty60 19 January 2015 18: 40
          0
          Close your ears, Engels airbase next to it, believe my eyes. And Tu160-go in pairs, and Mishki-Tu95, and Tu-22-these go alone. I personally observe the regularity of flights
  8. SPACE
    SPACE 15 October 2013 09: 09
    15
    Considering that the missile test came from the Kapustin Yar along Saryshagan it is 2000 km, then I believe Rubezh is a universal rocket with a range from 1000 km to 9000 km i.e. it has the ability to hit border countries as well, and perhaps it got the name ABROAD from this. Frontier is a headache primarily in Europe, Turkey, China and Japan, and then the United States.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 15 October 2013 09: 56
      +3
      Quote: SPACE
      Considering that the missile test came from the Kapustin Yar along Saryshagan it is 2000 km, then I believe Rubezh is a universal rocket with a range from 1000 km to 9000 km i.e. it has the ability to hit border countries as well, and perhaps it got the name ABROAD from this. Frontier is a headache primarily in Europe, Turkey, China and Japan, and then the United States.

      Judging by the size of the launcher, it is unlikely that Boundary will have a range of more than 6000 km, or it will have a longer range, but a small cast mass.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 15 October 2013 10: 53
        +4
        Quote: Nitup
        Judging by the size of the launcher, it is unlikely that Boundary will have a range of more than 6000 km, or it will have a longer range, but a small cast mass.

        I believe the progress of the nuclear missile shield does not stand still and if we more or less know the information on the carriers, then the information on nuclear warheads is absolutely closed! I believe the ratio of cast weight to kilotons is increasing more and more! Uranium and plutonium are just detonators ... for thermonuclear stuffing, and the difference between SNF and TNW has long been erased and the difference in properties only in rocket carriers ...
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 15 October 2013 11: 20
          +1
          Quote: SPACE
          I believe the ratio of cast weight to kilotons is increasing more and more!

          I think that it is unlikely to have increased so much that it is possible to make a full-fledged intercontinental complex with an abandoned mass of 500–600 kg (the required number of warheads, a set of means to overcome missile defense). Otherwise, it would simply not be necessary to make a modernized Yars (modernization will mainly affect military equipment), which should be delivered to the Strategic Missile Forces somewhere from 2016, but simply make the Rubezh slightly increased, adding, for example, another axis, achieving a range of 11000 km.
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 15 October 2013 13: 43
            +4
            Quote: Nitup
            I think that it is unlikely to increase so much that you can make a full-fledged intercontinental complex with an abandoned mass of kg 500 - 600

            A conventional nuclear weapon for an 150 mm gun weighs about 100 kg together with a sleeve and has a power of about 2-3 kilotons; a thousand kilogram carrier already has the ability to toss 10 of such units with protective equipment. What kind of development warheads are now no one knows, we can only assume and I think that the assumptions lead to an increase in the power of charges with the previous masses of warheads.
            1. Nitup
              Nitup 15 October 2013 13: 47
              0
              Quote: SPACE
              a thousand-kilogram carrier already has the ability to toss 10 such blocks with protective equipment.

              It is not clear that a rocket weighing in 1 ton has the ability to throw 10 of such blocks? Or a missile with discharged mass in 1 t?
              1. SPACE
                SPACE 15 October 2013 14: 40
                +3
                Quote: Nitup
                It is not clear that a rocket weighing in 1 ton has the ability to throw 10 of such blocks? Or a missile with discharged mass in 1 t?

                You understand correctly, a missile with an discharged mass of 1 ton.
            2. Moore
              Moore 15 October 2013 16: 44
              0
              They cannot be compared in this way. Shells and BB use different "filling". A 200-pound BB is incommensurate in power with an artillery shell.
            3. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 16 October 2013 01: 12
              +2
              Quote: SPACE
              What kind of development warheads are now no one knows, we can only assume and I think that the assumptions lead to an increase in the power of charges with the previous masses of warheads.

              Indeed, you can only learn about our works "tete-a-tete" in conversation with classmates or colleagues. And then, if you are well known and trusted. But the Americans are following the path of miniaturization. The bottom line: increasing the range of the carrier by increasing accuracy while reducing the weight of the BB. At the same time, the weight and overall characteristics of the weapon (ICBM) and the carrier (platform) are reduced. By the way, quite recently there was a conversation on the forum about this.
              1. rubin6286
                rubin6286 1 November 2013 20: 16
                0
                The more powerful the head, the greater the radius of the target’s destruction. Therefore, even with low accuracy, it can be covered. It was like that at the dawn of rocketry. Everything has its reasonable limit: the size of the carrier, the energy characteristics of the fuel, the number and thrust of the engines, the mass and power of the warhead. The higher the accuracy. The smaller the charge needed to hit the same target, the smaller and simpler the carrier. Designers have chosen this path. I think that as soon as they can achieve that the warhead, having flown 8 thousand km, will fall into a circle with a radius of 8 meters and fall at a distance of 25 cm from the center of the circle, many types of aircraft and types of troops will cease to exist at all or will be reduced to a minimum .
        2. bistrov.
          bistrov. 15 October 2013 17: 45
          -13 qualifying.
          Quote: SPACE
          only detonators ... to thermonuclear stuffing,

          A thermonuclear explosion was carried out in the USSR during the time of Khrushchev’s nuclear test site (Novaya Zemlya), after which he was afraid of the consequences after it (the entire small population on the northern coast was destroyed), further improvement of thermonuclear munitions was stopped.
          1. ACKiPaPa,
            ACKiPaPa, 26 January 2014 17: 46
            0
            Quote: bistrov.
            all the small population on the north coast was destroyed

            Uh, kinda softer. Not a single Nenets was injured wassat
            The warriors at the training ground, too ... I’m telling you this as a local. hi
        3. rubin6286
          rubin6286 1 November 2013 20: 06
          +2
          Son! You study physics better. Kilotons. Megatons are the TNT equivalent. and a kilogram, a ton is mass.
          These are incomparable quantities. Speaking of carriers, the terms are used: the total power of the nuclear charge, the starting mass of the carrier, the thrust of the propulsion system, the number of stages, the weight of the warhead, the specific pressure pulse in the combustion chamber, the pressure at the nozzle exit, etc. Deal with this. otherwise it’s a shame on the whole Internet.
    2. Army1
      Army1 15 October 2013 12: 05
      -5
      If you are already using weapons in Turkey, then you will excuse me.
  9. pahom54
    pahom54 15 October 2013 09: 43
    +3
    I quote ...; The adoption of the RS-26 missile and the start of its serial production will allow us to quickly eliminate the backlog in the number of deployed carriers and warheads ... "...
    I would like to add the fact that in the Strategic Missile Forces there remains a large number of obsolete missiles of the UR-100UTTX type with repeatedly extended service life. And this despite the fact that in addition we are inferior to the United States in terms of the number of carriers even under the START-3 treaty !!! Here is the result of an unreasonable policy of the 90s and the beginning of the 1st century, when we were cutting and cutting what we are trying to revive (an example is the BZHRK - a railway missile complex).
    New missiles are needed, even badly needed by Russia today. Modern Strategic Missile Forces are a tangible makeweight "for forcing the alleged enemy to peace" (in what casuistry, well, LADIES - just Machiavelli and a Jesuit rolled into one !!!).
    1. rubin6286
      rubin6286 1 November 2013 20: 19
      +3
      You do not know anything about the UR-100 UTTH. Who told you she was out of date ?.
  10. Nitup
    Nitup 15 October 2013 10: 13
    +1
    The Votkinsk plant at one time, when we produced Pioneers, produced 120 (!) Missiles per year. Now, if you organize his work properly, these opportunities will also be. So it is necessary to increase the production of complexes of the Yars type both in the form of mobile complexes and in the mine version, placing them in the mines from which old liquid rockets will be removed, thereby you need to get away from such a variety of types as now and not to develop liquid rockets, like some offer today.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 15 October 2013 11: 23
      +1
      Quote: Nitup
      The Votkinsk plant at one time, when we produced Pioneers, produced 120 (!) Missiles per year.

      You forget that in those days, the cooperation of the rocket industry affected the enterprises of the entire union, and now there is no union and we have what we have ...
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Nitup
        Nitup 15 October 2013 11: 31
        +1
        Quote: PSih2097
        You forget that in those days, the cooperation of the rocket industry affected the enterprises of the entire union, and now there is no union and we have what we have ...

        No, I remember everything well. In the production of Topol-M complexes, it was also originally believed that there would be cooperation between enterprises throughout the USSR, but under the new conditions it was necessary to create cooperation between enterprises only on the territory of the Russian Federation - and nothing, they coped quite quickly. If you now properly organize the work, then it is possible to increase the volume of production
    2. Andrey57
      Andrey57 15 October 2013 12: 15
      +3
      While solid fuel rockets cannot compete with liquid ones in all respects, especially in the initial booster section, for this reason a new heavy liquid rocket is being developed.
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 15 October 2013 12: 32
        0
        Quote: Andrey57
        While solid fuel rockets cannot compete with liquid ones in all respects, especially in the initial booster section, for this reason a new heavy liquid rocket is being developed.

        But more specifically, by what characteristics can they not compete, especially in the accelerating section?
      2. rubin6286
        rubin6286 1 November 2013 20: 30
        0
        This statement is very superficial. What is the initial acceleration section, what characteristics should be achieved, for what? A heavy liquid rocket is heavy because it is large or because it has a heavy warhead? At the same range, ICBMs with solid propellant rocket launchers have more stages than a rocket with rocket engines. This means that the burning rate of the TT charge is higher. The dimensions of the carrier affect the dimensions of the silo launcher. Under the START treaty, neither Russia nor the United States can build new mines or upgrade them.
    3. AVV
      AVV 15 October 2013 15: 12
      +1
      Here you are wrong, Makevsky missiles are simply necessary, they will also create a rocket to replace Satan, which the Americans are still afraid of, and with the stubbornness of a maniac sought to destroy it !!! Compared to solid fuel, liquid ones can deliver over a long range, longer the number of warheads, heavy and light false targets, which makes it difficult to select the BB with anti-missile defense !!! The mace still does not fly, and the old Satan has already exceeded all terms of operation, it is still terrifying !!!
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 15 October 2013 15: 48
        -2
        Are Americans just sitting and shaking with fear at the mention of the Governor? You just need to have such a strategic nuclear forces that, in response, are guaranteed to destroy ANY aggressor. And the lyrics here are not appropriate. If this can be achieved without creating a new sample of the complex, then it is not necessary to create it. This is a spray of money, as well as scientific and production efforts for the sake of someone's personal and corporate interests.
        1. I think so
          I think so 18 October 2013 10: 29
          +2
          Dear Nitup, liquid-propellant rockets surpass solid-fuel rockets in almost ALL parameters.
          1. Range and throw weight for solid fuel with the same dimensions is 1.3-1.5 times less. There are no such solid-propellant missiles, neither we nor pin.dos, which would be compared in the "Voevoda".
          2. Time of guaranteed (!) Operation. Almost 1.5 times less for solid fuel. And this means that they need to be changed faster. The costs are obvious.
          3. Liquid fuel rockets do not need periodic monitoring of fuel conditions. For solid fuels, it is necessary to shine through every 2-3 years with X-ray or ultrasound (!) To make sure that there are no cracks in the fuel, especially this concerns mobile soil complexes.
          4. Solid fuel missiles have minimum range limitations. This is inconvenient for possible use over short distances. Roughly speaking, if it does, it’s impossible to shoot them in Turkey or Poland, but only in pin.dos. Shallow, and in a critical situation, a significant drawback.

          Here are the BASIC weaknesses of solid rockets compared to liquid rockets.

          As for their positive qualities like
          1. Fast overclocking
          2. Ease of preparation for the start.
          3. Cheaper manufacturing.

          That is all more of a fictitious advantage.

          In order.
          point 1. Modern satellite means for detecting ballistic missile launches by their torch are capable of detecting a launch in 10-20 seconds of engine operation. Therefore, the duration of the solid-fuel engine, although less than liquid, but still significantly exceeds this indicator. And therefore does not make much sense.
          paragraph 2. All preparations for launch are carried out in equal measure according to a PRELIMINARY command from the center. And the decision-making time for launching is still significantly SIGNIFICANTly longer than the preparation time for launching and therefore this parameter is not significant either.
          point 3. According to the latest data, the costs of the production of solid rockets in Russia are significantly higher than the costs for liquid rockets. You can only gain an advantage by massing the production of such missiles. But the START treaties do not allow this to be done. And here, roughly speaking, a span.

          I consider the BIGGEST strategic mistake of the Russian command to switch to solid-fuel rockets. This proset will soon turn into a disaster for the country. God forbid, of course, but it no longer depends on the Russians ...
          1. rubin6286
            rubin6286 1 November 2013 20: 45
            +1
            You, son, did not serve rockets, nor liquid ones. solid-fuel ones. You don’t know their devices, you have never been involved in exploitation, you haven’t carried out combat duty, and have never been involved in preparations for launch. in factories. where they were made, I wasn’t, you don’t know the cost of missiles, you also don’t know the capabilities of tracking and warning about a missile attack. All this is available only to professionals. Become him and then you will understand what and why, how and how much, much or little, quickly or slowly, etc. etc. Without this, it’s ridiculous to talk about the grossest mistakes made by the leadership of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, the command of the RV, and the Supreme Commander. Agree
  11. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 15 October 2013 10: 46
    +2
    On October 1, the US State Department published the latest data on the quantitative indicators of nuclear weapons in Russia and the United States.

    Immediately rushed to count smile America fussed when she saw the "client" ...
  12. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 15 October 2013 12: 14
    +2
    kartalovkolya (3) RU
    Yes, it's time to end the game with only one goal: go ahead for the "partners" diapers, soon you will need them in large quantities ...

    Well, PUMPERS, apparently they may not need it, probably if God forbid that ... they will not have time to put them on, so they prepare "for future use" plastic coffins, ugh, ugh, ugh ... read somewhere, "prepared "over a million ...
  13. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 15 October 2013 13: 07
    +3
    Quote: Andrey57
    While solid fuel rockets cannot compete with liquid ones in all respects, especially in the initial booster section, for this reason a new heavy liquid rocket is being developed.

    Solid propellants are superior to liquid propellants in the accelerating section (they are gaining speed faster), but they are significantly inferior to warheads in the thrown weight.
  14. Agent 008
    Agent 008 15 October 2013 13: 27
    +4
    Our nuclear baton must be strong, and the rubber baton, which riot police taunts our population, on the contrary, is softer ...
  15. sxn278619
    sxn278619 15 October 2013 13: 50
    -8
    One block - a range of 10 km.
    Ten blocks - a range of 1 km.
    And all arithmetic.
    1. rubin6286
      rubin6286 2 November 2013 22: 33
      +2
      One warrant officer said to me: "One person is a person, two people are people, one egg is an egg, and two eggs are ...."
  16. morpogr
    morpogr 15 October 2013 14: 52
    +1
    New is good let the Americans stiffen.
  17. 3935333
    3935333 15 October 2013 15: 12
    0
    With a quiet glancing, slowly, both strategic and industrial potential is being updated, but very slowly. need to invest in technology, not bring in cheap labor
  18. scientist
    scientist 15 October 2013 15: 35
    +2
    It would be nice to do something like Reagan did. It is necessary, together with China, to create the appearance of a unification for the development of a super ambitious and expensive project like Star Wars (hypersonic aircraft or submarine naval bases). The Americans will rush to catch up, start investing huge amounts of money and their economy will finally collapse, along with the ambitions of the world policeman.
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 23 November 2013 01: 10
      0
      For example, teaming up with the Chinese to dig a canal in Nicaragua (this news was very pleased).
      Yes, air defense / missile defense with shore rackets to strengthen.
      belay wassat
  19. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 15 October 2013 17: 18
    +1
    It’s like in sports, you have to take one line after another. That is, Frontier-1 should be followed by Frontier-2 and so on, the creative thought of designers should not stagnate.
  20. Snipe 74
    Snipe 74 15 October 2013 19: 16
    0
    Friends, you are sure that in the event of an attack on us by China, a nuclear arsenal will be used. I’m somehow not sure about this.
    1. mikkado31
      mikkado31 15 October 2013 22: 04
      -2
      if only tactical nuclear weapons will be used. But for China, this is not fatal.
  21. sxn278619
    sxn278619 15 October 2013 20: 17
    +1
    Is it really not clear that Rubezh is a medium-range complex, created in 2010, an analogue of the SS-20. Only the blocks have a jet engine, fuel and aerodynamic control. The control system has been developed at Iskander.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 15 October 2013 22: 55
      +1
      Quote: sxn278619
      Is it really not clear that Rubezh is a medium-range complex, created in 2010, an analogue of the SS-20. Only the blocks have a jet engine, fuel and aerodynamic control. The control system has been developed at Iskander.

      Well, judging by the size of the launcher, it is. And about warheads, these are just guesses
  22. voliador
    voliador 16 October 2013 00: 04
    0
    Still, I would like to know the performance characteristics of the RS-26.
    1. rubin6286
      rubin6286 1 November 2013 20: 49
      0
      Why do you need it. You know, like Yesenin's: "A man can judge for hours about a thing that sticks out between his legs."
  23. Admiral 013
    Admiral 013 16 October 2013 03: 30
    +1
    Pen.os also fulfill all the conditions of the contract? Reduced the huge number of warheads and their carriers? The world turned upside down, or vice versa. I really hope that the way it is, but still somehow unclear this whole thing.
  24. Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv 16 October 2013 06: 16
    +1
    Quote: SPACE
    Quote: Sakhalininets
    No fog needed. It is necessary to clearly indicate our phi for any overseas pretzel. And in general it is possible to conduct a dialogue with arrogant Saxons only by waving a good dubai in front of the muzzle of the latter, the latter do not understand other communication.

    I absolutely support! We must not hide, but we must advertise. The leadership of the East Kazakhstan region and Strategic Missile Forces needs to create an Internet resource with free access for everyone to detailed descriptions of the capabilities of Russia's nuclear missile forces, with computer animation of possible options for using various separate and joint forces and especially their consequences for different countries.


    In personal communication with people living outside the borders of Russia, ALWAYS stated that our propaganda is VERY weak in the West.
    People, ordinary citizens, clerks, hard workers WANT to know about Russia from the primary sources.
    And the information in English and other foreign languages ​​- the cat cried.

    Would suggest:
    - carry more paid and FREE groups to Russia.
    - On the Internet it is more open to portals for various layers and groups of the population NOT SPEAKING.
    - more TV and radio programs about Russia

    But these are dreams.
    Listen to the Lighthouse, the radio of Russia.
    Tears

    Radio of Russia 2-4 minutes two three events in the country. 5-7 minutes foreign news, 5-10 minutes sports.
    The rest of the time is hidden or explicit commercial advertising.
    Advertising from approximately 9 am to 12 pm in the territory of Primorye.
    And what is being advertised ?!
    Devices from all diseases !!!
    And no one will shut their mouths.

    True, there are thematic programs in Russia.
    In them you can hear something about Russia, its history. Music, theater, prison and its inhabitants.
    But 50% of the Jews and 50% of all other nations and nationalities living from Kaliningrad to Kamchatka.
    Very little and rarely about the Heroes of Russia, about its scientists, production workers ...

    Lighthouse.
    Clintonha’s brain drain. Madonna lost her underpants.
    The bribe taker was caught in Moscow. The weather in Hawaii ...

    At least I got the impression.
    All without claiming the ultimate truth.
  25. nikcris
    nikcris 16 October 2013 13: 26
    +2
    Quote: wk-083
    Open your eyes! There are 16 old TU-160 left, which practically do not fly.

    My windows cannot be opened at night because of the roar of "non-flying" ones.
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 23 November 2013 01: 16
      0
      We closed all the windows
      We couldn’t sleep at night -
      Cats howled under the window
      Like tigers rowing them!
      laughing