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Two cracks detected on F-35B

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Lockheed Martin and the F-35 Joint Program Management reported that two structural cracks in the airframe bulkheads were detected during static tests of the F-35B aircraft version with a vertical landing, reported October at flightglobal.com.


It is reported that this discovery will not affect the flight tests of the F-35B, which should acquire the status of initial operational readiness in 2015 as part of aviation US Marine Corps. Cracks are characterized as “minor” and were discovered in August of this year after 9400 hours of static testing, which corresponds to approximately 17 years of operation. Testing was suspended on September 29 for the purpose of analysis. It is expected that some 50 aircraft of this version will need a little repair. It is reported that reinforcing bulkheads will add no more than two pounds (less than 1 kg) to the weight of the glider.

The Pentagon requires hours of flight from the developers of 8000, then after major repairs this time should increase to 16000 hours. "The purpose of the test is to determine the design constraints for their subsequent elimination," the report says.

The detected cracks will in no way affect the course of flight tests of the F-35A variants for the Air Force and the F-35C for the Navy.
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  1. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 14 October 2013 13: 41
    21
    Two cracks detected on F-35B

    one along each wing. Advanced aircraft can fly without wings laughing
    1. honest jew
      honest jew 14 October 2013 13: 56
      -54 qualifying.
      So what ? Look, on the Max, the t-50 had interruptions with the engine, which didn’t even take off, and what to stop production? I advise the Russians to look into their garden, the Americans will figure it out and correct the flaws in this, I'm 100% sure !!!
      1. afire
        afire 14 October 2013 14: 15
        15
        since such a fan for the Americans, it is logical to assume that your presence in this forum is caused by purely mocking inclinations and the desire to spit in our direction? I would recommend you not to do this, otherwise ... ... ... Biryulevo ... ... ... points can be lost)))
        1. Drappier
          Drappier 14 October 2013 16: 14
          +4
          Dear Pace, Pace))
      2. PROXOR
        PROXOR 14 October 2013 14: 28
        15
        Quote: Honest Jew
        So what ? Look, on the Max, the t-50 had interruptions with the engine, which didn’t even take off, and what to stop production? I advise the Russians to look into their garden, the Americans will figure it out and correct the flaws in this, I'm 100% sure !!!

        Dear Izya !!!!! As a resident of a state without your own aviation complex, I advise you to keep your opinion to yourself. In other words, go to Jewish sites and write in Hebrew. Already not in the first topic I notice your "b".
        1. Rink
          Rink 14 October 2013 16: 52
          10
          Quote: PROXOR
          ... go to Jewish sites and write in Hebrew.

          "... and LIE in Hebrew."

          IMHO, the sense of what is said is more accurately conveyed
      3. pensioner
        pensioner 14 October 2013 14: 31
        +5
        Quote: PROXOR
        important Izya !!!!! As a resident of the state without your own aviation complex, I advise you to keep your opinion to yourself. In other words, go to ...
        So more precisely. Forgive me Sergey / PROXOR
        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR 14 October 2013 14: 36
          +5
          Quote: retired
          So more precisely. Forgive me Sergey / PROXOR

          wink Watch the watchman. Admin is not sleeping!
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 14 October 2013 15: 32
            +3
            Quote: PROXOR
            Watch the watchman. Admin is not sleeping!

            And I accidentally ... repeat
          2. sasha.28blaga
            sasha.28blaga 15 October 2013 05: 33
            0
            Admin is watching!
      4. Vittt
        Vittt 14 October 2013 16: 21
        +2
        Quote: honest Jew
        So what ?

        For some reason, an association immediately arose with the film "Hide and seek" with some correction: a gap is the distance between two "cracks".
      5. Ivan Pavlov
        Ivan Pavlov 14 October 2013 16: 30
        +6
        in the end this plane will fly as it should. They have no hearty
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 14 October 2013 16: 40
          12
          They have no hearty

          Our Serdyukovs quietly cry with envy looking at their schemers.
      6. biglow
        biglow 14 October 2013 17: 59
        18
        tell "honest Jew" why the representatives of your people do not like Russia and Russians so much. What have we done wrong to you? After all, throughout history Russia has only done good to you. Even before power in 1917, in Russia itself, they were allowed and then freed from the Oswiec from the evil Germans and Stalin helped you create your own statesmen for once, and now you can all live in it, But no .. All that rebellious Jewish soul is missing. And all opposition in Russia is made up of Jews and all Aligarhs are Jews, what else should Russia do for your restless people so that you stop hating and slandering it on all sites and wherever possible ..
        Although the truth cannot be obtained from you, such words are alas unknown to you ...
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 14 October 2013 20: 00
          +5
          Quote: biglow
          what else should Russia do for your troubled people, so that you stop hating and scumbling her

          The question is of course interesting, but the answer is very simple, multiply them by zero, and here on the site (blacklist) and ignore them in life and not communicate. One misfortune; - not all representatives of this nation - there are truly talented and wonderful people.
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 14 October 2013 21: 51
          +1
          Quote: biglow
          tell "honest Jew" why the representatives of your people do not like Russia and Russians so much.

          Well, actually the USSR supplied the Arabs with weapons and specialists, probably for that.
        3. O_RUS
          O_RUS 14 October 2013 23: 03
          +1
          Quote: biglow
          why representatives of your people do not like Russia and Russians so much. What have we done wrong to you?


          I am a little to blame - yesterday, in a tram, a 5-6 year old girl stepped on a Jew's foot ... how it got out of him ... the girl's mother apologized for her daughter ... and the Jew still continues.

          I understand that I’m not quite right ... I could not restrain myself ... I gave a slap to a Jewess

          I won’t lie - next time I’ll do the same winked
      7. 31231
        31231 14 October 2013 19: 04
        0
        Quote: honest Jew
        So what ? Look, on the Max, the t-50 had interruptions with the engine, which didn’t even take off, and what to stop production? I advise the Russians to look into their garden, the Americans will figure it out and correct the flaws in this, I'm 100% sure !!!

        Izzy, do the same with the fire. Gussky very skillfully heed with a blowtorch. Pajosts are singed at the sites, and your lighters can be matched.
      8. NKVD
        NKVD 14 October 2013 21: 00
        +1
        You understand your views there in the beginning, or you’ll rub it in Syria, you’ll wet the terrorists, and then you support them. Where can you teach Russians how to judge someone? At the beginning, create at least one plane and then talk about the product in the final stages
      9. Cap-3 USSR
        Cap-3 USSR 14 October 2013 21: 04
        +2
        How can a Jew not be 100% sure, and even with respect to the Americans.
      10. Basarev
        Basarev 14 October 2013 21: 32
        +2
        But still, despite all the F-35 and PAK FA, I humanly feel sorry for the ruined Yak-141
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 14 October 2013 21: 54
          +2
          Quote: Basarev
          But still, despite all the F-35 and PAK FA, I humanly feel sorry for the ruined Yak-141

          So he reincarnated in the F-35V.
          1. clidon
            clidon 15 October 2013 15: 51
            0
            More precisely the nozzle from it. The rest of the 141st, along with the three-engine take-off scheme, remained with us.
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2013 05: 46
          +2
          not ruined, but treacherously sold ... am
      11. yanus
        yanus 14 October 2013 23: 28
        0
        Quote: Honest Jew
        So what ? Look, on the Max, the t-50 had an interruption in the engine that didn’t even take off, and what to stop production? I advise Russian look into your gardenAmericans They will figure it out and fix the flaws in this, I’m 100% sure !!!

        It would seem, what does even Jew?
    2. Siberian German
      Siberian German 14 October 2013 15: 34
      +6
      and the Jew wrote correctly - they will figure it out and will continue to launch their wunderwafel - but I wanted to figure it out and there is some kind of super duper defect reason - small but nice
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR 14 October 2013 15: 39
        -5
        Quote: Siberian German
        and the Jew wrote correctly - they will figure it out and will continue to launch their wunderwafel - but I wanted to figure it out and there is some kind of super duper defect reason - small but nice

        Will not. All that they produce now is a vigorous symbiosis of various technologies. And not the fact that all that they have grown will work without glitches.
        I also had the opportunity to put the android on HTC HD2. but glitches constantly followed him and he was inferior in functionality. So draw conclusions.

        Without a good engineering school, there will never be anything of its own.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 14 October 2013 17: 35
          +5
          Quote: PROXOR
          Without a good engineering school, there will never be anything of its own.

          You think they don’t have it?
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. sens99.ru
      sens99.ru 14 October 2013 16: 35
      -2
      Ahahahahahah think crack. In two days it will turn out that he flew without wings, and in another two days a report from the Pentagon will appear, they say, "It's okay." wassat
      1. alone
        alone 14 October 2013 17: 49
        +1
        Quote: sens99.ru
        Ahahahahahah think crack. In two days it will turn out that he flew without wings, and in another two days a report from the Pentagon will appear, they say, "It's okay."


        unfortunately, this is possible only in the post-Soviet space. hi
        1. sasha.28blaga
          sasha.28blaga 15 October 2013 05: 38
          0
          They have adopted and adopt a lot of "good" things from us.
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2013 05: 40
      +2
      without wings, you won't get a beautiful classic "corkscrew", it will be like a crowbar to enter the ground, where is the aesthetics ??? wassat
  2. morpogr
    morpogr 14 October 2013 13: 46
    +3
    How much money they still instill in him horror. This is the cut so cut. laughing Then somewhere else they will find something wrong, something wrong and ask for money for dorobotka.
    1. honest jew
      honest jew 14 October 2013 13: 59
      -20 qualifying.
      Quote: morpogr
      How much money they still instill in him horror. This is the cut so cut. Then somewhere else they will find something wrong, something wrong and ask for money for dorobotka.



      I drank it in Russia, and not even in the military sphere. Take Sochi for example ... There, in one hotel, they ordered light bulbs for 480 million rubles !!!!! Money goes without saying on budget ... and you say America !!! Start with the problem in Biriulevo first hi
      1. Basileus
        Basileus 14 October 2013 14: 06
        +2
        Oh yeah. In the USA there is no cut)))
        1. afire
          afire 14 October 2013 14: 16
          +5
          They, like the Jews, are all holy to the halo!
          Especially Libyan and Syrian children remember them! am
      2. PROXOR
        PROXOR 14 October 2013 14: 30
        0
        Quote: Honest Jew
        I drank it in Russia, and not even in the military sphere. Take Sochi for example ... There, in one hotel, they ordered light bulbs for 480 million rubles !!!!! Money goes without saying on budget ... and you say America !!! Start with the problem in Biriulevo first

        People. BANIM this clever guy through the button "Report violation of site rules" as a troll conducting anti-Russian propaganda.
        1. honest jew
          honest jew 14 October 2013 14: 33
          -21 qualifying.
          Quote: PROXOR
          People. BANIM this clever guy through the button "Report violation of site rules" as a troll conducting anti-Russian propaganda.



          Mikhail Dmitrievich Prokhorov, is that you? hi
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR 14 October 2013 14: 38
            -1
            Quote: Honest Jew
            Mikhail Dmitrievich Prokhorov, is that you?

            Well, I say that TROL. Hooked! DO NOT EVEN HOPE!!!! This is my last post to you.
            1. Dober
              Dober 14 October 2013 16: 55
              +3
              Quote: PROXOR
              Well, I say that TROL.

              And who else doubts. If there are such - you can see it here. For three "comments" "honest" got under THREE minuses.

              topwar.ru/33584-neozhidannyy-povorot-v-dele-ob-ubiystve-desantnika-v-saratovskoy
              -oblasti-ili-nevyuchennye-pugachevskie-uroki.html # comment-id-1524298


              Well fed. Here he asks for more.
              Tactics with such worked out a long time. Talk about them, minus if anyone wants to, but in no case do not contact directly. Be sure to provoke ...
            2. Siberian German
              Siberian German 15 October 2013 02: 47
              0
              well this is my friend - it’s kind of childish with him is quite interesting
        2. 11 black
          11 black 14 October 2013 16: 49
          0
          Quote: PROXOR
          I drank it in Russia, and not even in the military sphere. Take Sochi for example ... There, in one hotel, they ordered light bulbs for 480 million rubles !!!!! Money goes without saying on budget ... and you say America !!! Start with the problem in Biriulevo first

          People. BANIM this clever guy through the button "Report violation of site rules" as a troll conducting anti-Russian propaganda.

          And the point is that tomorrow dishonest Hebrew will appear on the site and more ...
        3. old man54
          old man54 14 October 2013 21: 12
          +4
          Quote: PROXOR
          BANIM this clever guy through the button "Report violation of site rules" like a troll conducting anti-Russian propaganda.

          it’s not like it’s like a type of mommy complaining, I’m personally dumb and I won’t go down to that! You all know how! I will methodically and persistently, despite all these latest Gestapian notions on the site with the ratings, continue to work with a minus sign, I think that is more honest! Many, I see, were very scared of the sequester rating, and in vain! By this they demonstrated the weakness of their SPIRIT, but did they forget the military site? wink
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 14 October 2013 22: 12
            +1
            Quote: old man54
            it’s not like how to complain about mom,

            I will support you, to arrange collective persecution in a forum where everyone expresses his opinion as something bad. And the opinion of one representative is not the opinion of the whole people, as it is not good.
          2. Dober
            Dober 14 October 2013 22: 40
            +1
            Quote: old man54
            I will methodically and persistently, despite all these latest Gestapian notions on the site with the ratings, continue to work with a minus sign, I think that is more honest!
            the site is military, forgot?

            Therefore, you certainly need to weapon.
            There is a "PLUSOMET". Sorry "minus sets are not available - they quickly disassemble, but since you are at such a respectable" age ", you can easily remake it. yes soldier
      3. LaGlobal
        LaGlobal 14 October 2013 15: 11
        +1
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Start with the problem in Biriulevo first


        Hey guy! We are well versed in our problems, and we don’t climb into sovereign SOVEREIGN states and we don’t have any obese American-Jewish man shoot 20 every month.

        RESULT: you should deal with your problems.

        Quote: retired
        In other words, go to ...
        So more precisely. Forgive me Sergey / PROXOR
      4. Dober
        Dober 14 October 2013 16: 48
        +2
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Start with the problem in Biriulevo first

        And this one "pointed out the problem" ...
        But what without him, well, it’s in no way clear. Here is one already rushed first. Sanya Potkin - who is VERY RUSSIAN himself, and cares for the Russians.
        And absolutely nobody "understands" that the same "Old Russian" surname has Harvey Potkin, president of National Foods in New York, a kosher food company; businessman Potkin is engaged in obtaining a certificate from the rabbinate for kosher sausages. Another owner of the "Old Russian" surname, Vanessa Potkin from Georgia, according to the local Jewish newspaper The Juish Times, participates in Jewish charity. Lives in London too Potkin; he actively participates in pickets near the Russian embassy in protest against the support of the Iranian regime by Putin.
        This "Belotkin" has already been noted at the gathering. And now the guys are robust because of this Jewish provocateur.
        Give "honest" to Biryulyovo. It smelled in there and you love it ...
      5. 31231
        31231 14 October 2013 19: 08
        +2
        There, in one hotel, they ordered light bulbs for 480 million rubles !!!!!


        I told this Schneerson that they didn’t fall, do not sell dereelki to Michelson. Taki apparently burned, but they did. wink
      6. Omskgasmyas
        Omskgasmyas 14 October 2013 21: 01
        +1
        Quote: Honest Jew
        There, in one hotel, they ordered light bulbs for 480 million rubles !!!!! Money goes without saying on budget ...

        You are talking so confidently about this, you must have twisted these bulbs yourself? Or did you read Valery Ilyinichna's blog post? Your reliable sources. Then a couple of questions:
        1. Hotels are usually built by private investors. What is the fright in it budget bulbs?
        2. How many cars can be filled with 480 million light bulbs? And if they all fit inside this hotel, I'm not talking about whether there will be room for guests.
      7. yur
        yur 14 October 2013 23: 30
        0
        But there is no problem in Birilevo. There is a problem with corrupt officials and thieving businessmen who want to get a million for 2 copecks (hiring migrants for work). And in Birilevo, citizens are trying to get the government to work at least a little.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 14 October 2013 23: 47
          +1
          Biryulyovo, and so everything is correct.
      8. Siberian German
        Siberian German 15 October 2013 02: 44
        0
        But this dear is not your business, our Birulevo - we’ll figure it out ourselves
      9. sasha.28blaga
        sasha.28blaga 15 October 2013 05: 40
        0
        He drank it and drank it in Africa. And if you consider that you cut it purely your invention, then we can assume that there is a cut everywhere.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 14 October 2013 15: 24
      +5
      Respected. They simply cover in detail all the technical problems that arise. In Russia, a similar degree of openness never dreamed of.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 14 October 2013 17: 09
        +4
        Quote: Pimply
        They simply cover in detail all the technical problems that arise.

        In the USA, what, after Snowden's revelations, removed the signature stamp from all documents secretly, and abolished the concept of military secret? Can you tell us about technical problems in the Israeli Defense Ministry?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 14 October 2013 17: 36
          +1
          Quote: Sirocco
          In the USA, what, after Snowden's revelations, removed the signature stamp from all documents secretly, and abolished the concept of military secret? Can you tell us about technical problems in the Israeli Defense Ministry?

          And what to tell if the next article about this.
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 14 October 2013 17: 45
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            And what to tell if the next article about this.

            I would like to hear firsthand. After all, the fence is also written))))
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 14 October 2013 22: 01
              0
              Is it so hard for you to go down the news feed?
        2. 31231
          31231 14 October 2013 19: 12
          0
          It seems to me now to milk the GOZ without noise in the press is difficult. The national debt is growing. It is necessary to motivate the costs to the people in "difficult times".
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 14 October 2013 22: 00
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        Respected. They simply cover in detail all the technical problems that arise. In Russia, a similar degree of openness never dreamed of.

        So the Chinese stole all the technical documentation on the F-35, what is there to keep secret, the Americans themselves complained.
  3. olegff68
    olegff68 14 October 2013 13: 47
    0
    Joint F-35 program management reported that during structural tests of the F-35B short take-off and vertical landing version of the aircraft, two structural cracks were detected

    In taxpayers' wallets and in them something is clearly leaking.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 14 October 2013 14: 06
      +4
      Do not read the article to the end @ write comments

      It says that the plaque corresponds to 17 years of operation.
  4. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 14 October 2013 13: 47
    +5
    To the pilot before departure: "Friend, on your plane, two minor cracks were found, do not be afraid they are not dangerous, do not bother your head, fly with a falcon on the new F-35!"
    1. Dober
      Dober 14 October 2013 17: 00
      +3
      Quote: Standard Oil
      do not be afraid they are not dangerous, do not bother, fly a falcon on the new F-35!

      And they have one. This is Johnny McCain. Only he can send all the "cracks" to "malfunction" (or vice versa) ..., and start.
      But Joni is alone, and there are many planes.
      Maybe there are "adepts" ...
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 14 October 2013 22: 30
        +2
        On November 20, an official ceremony was held at Yuma Air Station (Arizona) to hand over to the US Marine Corps three short take-off and vertical landing aircraft (STOVL) F-35B. The vehicles were transferred to the 121st assault squadron of the 13th KMP group.
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 14 October 2013 22: 34
          0
          Sasha, what is Mackay doing there? Or is he as a talisman? tongue
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 14 October 2013 22: 41
            +1
            It was rather modest - of the sights, only one of the few American politicians known in Russia was D. McCain (he’s just a senator from Arizona, where the air base is located). God forbid that such a talisman! laughing
            From left to right: Marine Corps Commandant General James Amos; Arizona Senator John McCain; VMFA-121 squadron commander Lt. Col. Jeffrey Scott.
            1. andrei332809
              andrei332809 14 October 2013 22: 43
              0
              Quote: Alex 241
              God forbid from such a talisman!

              can't be so dubious sad
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 14 October 2013 22: 48
                +1
                [[/ img] [/ center] Not Andryukh chur me. Look at Hot Heads 1, how they removed him. laughing
                1. andrei332809
                  andrei332809 14 October 2013 22: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Look at 1 Hotheads,

                  Yes, I watched. Yet a long time ago, on a videotape. Something nostalgia surged
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 14 October 2013 23: 00
                    +1
                    Andryukh link in PM.
                    1. andrei332809
                      andrei332809 14 October 2013 23: 03
                      0
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      Andryukh link in PM.

                      yeah thanks, saw drinks
            2. Dober
              Dober 15 October 2013 01: 48
              0
              Quote: Alex 241
              God forbid from such a talisman!

              Not at all ...
              With his somersaults wassat His exact name is Joe Mannequin. Indispensable for crash tests when testing catapults. He is not killed as in games with some pumped options ... laughing
              Quote: Alex 241
              as removed from it.

              And I thought he was younger, even with a hair -
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 15 October 2013 01: 59
                0
                laughing drinks ........................
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 15 October 2013 01: 07
            0
            He, after all, is one of the leaders of the Republicans and a combat pilot.
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 15 October 2013 01: 12
              0
              It is combat laughing ditch so many planes, but the hero star must be given to him.
            2. Dober
              Dober 15 October 2013 01: 55
              0
              That would put all the Republicans in a Boeing stuffed with video cameras, and a Mannequin pilot. Put in the introductory - "Bomb the damned Vietcong" ...
              Then glue the filmets. Any genre - all the same, it will collect all the awards ...
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 15 October 2013 02: 08
                0
                I think there will be fun ................
    2. clidon
      clidon 14 October 2013 20: 54
      0
      Most likely, the machine on which the cracks are detected is being repaired, and the rest are subject to an overload restriction before modernization.
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  5. andrei332809
    andrei332809 14 October 2013 13: 48
    +6
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Advanced aircraft can fly without wings

    remembered-
    they roll out the plane for testing, when accelerating, the wings fall off. the designer was called.
    -What to do? It is necessary to somehow strengthen the design.
    constructor:
    - drill holes between the wing and the body.
    - yes, they fall off already, and with cheeses ...
    -No. toilet paper has holes too, but it never breaks on them
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 14 October 2013 13: 53
      0
      Toilet paper, unlike the F-35 flies. wassat
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 14 October 2013 15: 05
      +1
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omvrpis-PT0 Вот, с одним крылом сел.
  6. rugor
    rugor 14 October 2013 13: 51
    +2
    Oh byad, byad. I wish overseas friends to suspend the tests, and it’s better to turn off the project altogether.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 14 October 2013 15: 49
      0
      Quote: rugor
      it’s better to minimize the project altogether.

      Roll it into a tube and ... laughing
  7. rugor
    rugor 14 October 2013 13: 52
    0
    Oh byad, byad. I wish overseas friends to suspend the tests, and it’s better to turn off the project altogether.
  8. Pacifist
    Pacifist 14 October 2013 14: 05
    +7
    Standard test procedure for strength. Nothing special, as well as the test results. The message, by and large about anything.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 14 October 2013 14: 10
      0
      Quote: Pacifist
      Standard Strength Test Procedure

      Well, then yes, a statistical test is not for you ... it happens that after carrying out such procedures, such rubbish remains, and they tear, and crumple, and are thrown from great heights. I'm not talking about airplanes, but basically
    2. Altona
      Altona 14 October 2013 15: 23
      +7
      The cracks are not fatigue, but STRUCTURAL ... then there is some kind of jamb in the material itself that it is delaminated ... I repeat again ... Why are you reading this inattentively?
      1. Pacifist
        Pacifist 14 October 2013 17: 10
        +3
        I read carefully. What is so unusual you found there. An airplane with a requirement of 8000 hours passed before the appearance of structural cracks, 9400. The developer made a conclusion, changes to the design of the elements were made. What's so unusual?
      2. iwind
        iwind 14 October 2013 20: 06
        0
        Why are you so caught up in the word "structural"? Journalists might not have come up with such a thing.
        Therefore, as my scientific adviser said, I always use the primary sources, so that later I would not be ashamed of the mistakes of others. So in the original news there is no word about
        "structural"
  9. Altona
    Altona 14 October 2013 14: 14
    +5
    There is an old joke about assembling airplanes, where the old collector, Uncle Vasya, explained to the young intern why he makes holes at the junction of the wing and fuselage with a puncher ... Where, says, did you see toilet paper tear along perforations, for example? laughing
    1. starhina01
      starhina01 14 October 2013 22: 27
      0
      The Americans bought a plane from Russia and began to assemble it according to the documentation. Collect collect collect the locomotive. they don’t understand, they dismantled it. They collect it, it turns out the steam engine again. Our designers are called out from Russia, the plane closes every other day. The Americans ask how everything was collected exactly according to the scheme, but nothing happened except the steam engine. Our answer there is written in small print all details to be finalized file ... yes
  10. major071
    major071 14 October 2013 14: 19
    +4
    Two cracks detected on F-35B

    If you do not read the article, then we can assume that the pilot has one crack at the fifth point, and the second? laughing Although there are pilots with two cracks. wassat
    1. HAM
      HAM 14 October 2013 14: 23
      +1
      This is just the case of tolerance ..
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 14 October 2013 14: 34
      0
      Quote: major071
      Although there are pilots with two cracks.

      Oops! Interesting: and who is it them like that?what
      1. major071
        major071 14 October 2013 15: 20
        +4
        Nature, my friend, nature! lol
    3. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 October 2013 15: 53
      +1
      Although there are pilots with two cracks.

      Are you talking about McCain? laughing
      1. major071
        major071 14 October 2013 16: 51
        +4
        Well, I do not! He has no cracks, he has one gyrus and the one behind. smile
      2. Dober
        Dober 14 October 2013 17: 04
        0
        Quote: Wedmak
        Are you talking about McCain?

        Also, this one "came to mind" at once.
        Only he flew out, as it were, without cracks, but "landed" (at least) with two on his feet ...
        And the head "heals" quickly. laughing
  11. iwind
    iwind 14 October 2013 14: 20
    12
    I’m even curious as to why all the news about the F-35 is given in a negative context.
    This is a normal test, and the plan was even exceeded 9400 hours, which is enough for 17 years at 550 hours of flying per year, which lots of (with a standard of 300-400 hours per year), and the project requirement was 8000 hours.
    Lockheed further commented that the problem could be corrected by design changes that would add less than 2 lb (0,9 kg) to the aircraft's mass. Changes are planned for machines starting with the LRIP-VIII series, as the requirement is at 8000.
    ps Source
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/10/lockheed-fighter-cracks-idUSL1N0
    I02FS2
    0131010
  12. piotr534
    piotr534 14 October 2013 14: 25
    +9
    Quote: honest Jew
    So what ? Look, on the Max, the t-50 had interruptions with the engine, which didn’t even take off, and what to stop production? I advise the Russians to look into their garden, the Americans will figure it out and correct the flaws in this, I'm 100% sure !!!
    Your position is understandable. Because the F-35 is the future of the Israeli Air Force, it is not very pleasant when the dream is exposed in a negative light. lol
    1. clidon
      clidon 14 October 2013 20: 56
      0
      Jews will receive another modification, without vertical take-off.
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  14. Altona
    Altona 14 October 2013 14: 28
    +2
    F-35B revealed two structural cracks in the bulkheads of the airframe, flightglobal.com wrote on October 11.
    ---------------------------
    What does a certain number of flying hours have to do with it, if the cracks are STRUCTURAL, not FATIGUE?
  15. Cherdak
    Cherdak 14 October 2013 14: 29
    +3
    We don’t have to rejoice at such news, we are good people! But to convey this information to all potential buyers is urgently necessary.
  16. honest jew
    honest jew 14 October 2013 14: 42
    +5
    Quote: Honest Jew
    People. BANIM this clever guy through the button "Report violation of site rules" as a troll conducting anti-Russian propaganda.
    1. a52333
      a52333 14 October 2013 14: 54
      +5
      Not the guys.
      BANIM this clever guy through the button "Report violation of site rules" as a troll conducting anti-Russian propaganda.
      Not an option. stop If only one opinion is presented on the site, you can slide down to "Uryakalstvo". It will not be interesting. And our opponents can wish "not to troll".
      1. alone
        alone 14 October 2013 17: 54
        +5
        Quote: a52333
        Not an option. If only one opinion is presented on the site, you can slide down to "Uryakalstvo".


        hi unfortunately, dear Alexey, in my opinion there are already some hints of "uryakalstva" in VO. any other approach is taken with hostility, without even going into the details
        1. a52333
          a52333 14 October 2013 18: 07
          +1
          Quote: lonely
          in my opinion there are already some hints of "uryakalstva"

          Depends on the flag, Omar. There is no bullish reaction to "own" flags. But also as an excuse: they have been trampling us for too long.
          1. alone
            alone 14 October 2013 19: 11
            +3
            Quote: a52333
            Depends on the flag, Omar. There is no bullish reaction to "own" flags. But also as an excuse: they have been trampling us for too long.


            I won’t argue with Aleksey. but emotions should never defeat the mind.
            1. a52333
              a52333 14 October 2013 19: 26
              +1
              Quote: lonely
              emotions must never defeat the mind
              AHA, and here age is included. Young ones are more impulsive, old ones were mothballed. Where is she middle ground? what do you think, Omar?
      2. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 14 October 2013 20: 24
        0
        Quote: a52333
        ... And our opponents can wish "not to troll".

        What else can they do? They are only paid for it, but they are free to conduct highly professional conversations with you, and they are not allowed to do it in crowbars.
        1. a52333
          a52333 14 October 2013 21: 32
          +2
          No, Oleg. Not many receive the $ from the State Department, fortunately. But, unfortunately, many fall for their bait. On the site, many are unhappy with GDP. Ready to tear, but in fact-dissatisfied with liberals like DAMA. Angry at Chubais - GDP is to blame.
          But for the Israelis, too, is not easy. Small country (Moscow region) - surrounded by hostile countries. If you want, you don’t want, but you will be aggressive. And, by the way, trolls, mainly ours.
  17. kmike
    kmike 14 October 2013 14: 52
    0
    One crack in the white house, the second in the Fed.
  18. dimon-media
    dimon-media 14 October 2013 15: 10
    -2
    Cracks are characterized as “minor”

    Then the plane will collapse slightly, then the pilot will die slightly. Somewhere along the edge of my ear I heard that even the pilots themselves characterize this aircraft as "gamna".
    1. Dober
      Dober 14 October 2013 17: 10
      +3
      Quote: dimon-media
      the pilots themselves characterize this aircraft as "gamna"

      Shhhhhhhh ...
      There are contracts for many years to come, and with potential opponents.
      On the contrary, let's praise the device together!
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 14 October 2013 23: 34
        +2
        Quote: Dober
        let's praise the device together!

        Well, the offer is accepted. F-35 is the 5 generation fighter-bomber (so far, however, it pulls only on 4 +), created using stealth technology. It is assumed that this will be a single aircraft for the Air Force, Navy, MP Corps, which, after its completion, should replace the F-16, A-10, F / A-18, AV-8В, English "Harrier".
        But its main advantage is the possibility of vertical landing on the ship, after completing the knowledge base. This is an indispensable quality of an aircraft if the AVU aerofinisher is out of order. Already built 72 units, each at a price of 56,4 million dollars. It is going to buy the United States, England, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Norway. Originally intended to build 3055 units.
        Its advantages include:
        - A single engine that allows you to fly with V = 1900 km / h, providing R battles. = 1140 km. and 2,6 hours of patrol;
        - the possibility of an afterburning flight at supersonic 1,2M about 240 km.
        - the ability to carry 2 YB type B-61, power 0,3 - 340kt; or about 8 tons of bomb load on 10 (4 - internal, 6 - external) suspension units.
        F-35 has the latest avionics. It includes.
        - Radar station with AFAR AN / APG-81.
        - Electron-optical system AN / AAQ-37- with a distributed aperture, consisting of 6 IR sensors located on the fuselage with a viewing range of 360 degrees. The system allows you to:
        - Identify group launches of ballistic missiles at ranges up to 1300 km, accompany these targets and issue target designation for each of them in automatic mode.
        - Detect other ground and air targets
        - Navigate during day / night flight
        - Warn about an aircraft missile attack
        - Detect rocket launch points, operating anti-aircraft artillery positions
        - Launch an air-to-air missile against a target flying behind an airplane.
        - An omnidirectional infrared CCD-TV camera of high resolution, designed for surveillance and target designation. It provides capture and tracking of any ground, surface and air targets. Completely passive, it is able to detect and track targets in automatic mode and at long distances, as well as report laser radiation to the aircraft.
        - station of individual interference (REP) (Barracuda)
        - widescreen touchscreen display information display (50 to 20 centimeters), voice control is also possible.
        - Helmet system of target designation and indication, it is possible to control the look and turn of the head. This is a helmet that will allow you to "see through the cockpit" of the aircraft. Instead of a conventional display on the dashboard, a computer-synthesized image will be fed directly to the pilot's visors, providing him with the prompts necessary for flight, navigation and combat. A fundamentally new technology was the realization of the possibility of vision in the infrared range, that is, with the help of a helmet, the pilot will be able to see even at night. The helmet allows you to automatically switch between video modes. In fact, the aircraft can become “transparent” to the pilot. Also, the helmet is a kind of command center: high-precision target designation of all airborne weapons is tied to the movements of the pilot's head and eyes.
        He also has drawbacks.Here are some of them: - insufficient thrust-to-weight ratio (0,7 — 0,8);
        - the inability without afterburner to have supersonic cruising speed;
        - the inability to withstand our S-400 air defense system;
        - price increase by 2 times compared to the initial one and a delay of 7 years with the term of its final availability.
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  20. Mr. Tyler
    Mr. Tyler 14 October 2013 17: 32
    14
    Citizens of Russia, who call to ban everyone and everything, are you sane? For all the badness of the F35 in all its versions, you don't see one. They work, they are not afraid to show their problems, they bring their ideas to the end. It's not about who and what is cutting, to what extent, the essence of the problem is in the approach to business. Yes, T50 is closer to us, for it is ours, each praises his own, they are theirs, we are ours. Mr. Honest Jew, with Jewish malice, which is characteristic of this nation, that he wrote: "Lord Ivans, do not rejoice in other people's failures, solve your problems." Our pride, T50, did not take off at our air show, our missiles ... do not take off, we have formed the largest grouping of spuntik on the ocean floor ... our Kalashnikov is bankrupt, the Supreme Arbitration Court of the Russian Federation is being abolished, Serdyukov has not sat and will not sit down and because we have the rule of law ... ".
    For our country to be strong, it must be strong with its people, its economy, its science and technology, for us stability is considered an achievement in itself (open the textbook on recent history, the period of Brezhnev’s rule, there are a lot of things written about stability). And here we have a swamp. Direct your energy in the direction of change in a positive direction. It’s easiest to point with a finger and not see the logs. But to work on yourself, to improve the situation for the better, is something not really who wants to.
    1. alone
      alone 14 October 2013 17: 56
      -1
      oh, Dmitry, now they will make of you an enemy of the people and the state, how could you write such a thing here? wassat
      1. Mr. Tyler
        Mr. Tyler 14 October 2013 19: 52
        +6
        Can. If a person is free within himself, he will not be stopped by “shouts from the crowd”. People should think about everything that is happening around them, be aware, and not affably wave their caps on the news from the mouthpiece.
        If uninvited guests come to us, then shouting will not go far. As of today, we are not capable of opposing either China in the field of conventional weapons, let alone the United States. And our enemies do not use the methods of direct local wars, they weaken us from within, by external factors, and worst of all, when our own policy weakens us. To put it another way, Putin did a lot, but in the light of the country's further development, wouldn't it be better for him to leave, because if he turns out to be "Our Lukashenko" and there will be another, albeit a small putsch, riot, revolution, I do not think that ours is with you the country will generally remain ... Patriotism is not an irrational faith, it is a conscious love for one's country, but it also obliges us to make it better.
    2. BBM
      BBM 15 October 2013 02: 47
      +1
      Quote: Mr. Tyler
      Citizens of Russia, who urge to ban everyone and everything, are you sane? For all the ills of F35 in all its versions, you do not see one. They work, they are not afraid to show their problems, they bring their ideas to the end.

      typical cheers. From a purely medical point of view, they are quite sane - but to be honest, the odds are that someone will turn out to be someone like Anatoly Karpov = 0. Even if someone’s position is worthy of condemnation and you don’t agree with it, this does not mean that you need to yell about the bath (if without a mat). This means falling to the level of a dumb cattle who has nothing to argue his position
  21. de bouillon
    de bouillon 14 October 2013 17: 34
    +7
    set minus

    because the author of the provocateur-vertuhai completely altered the meaning of the article

    after reading the text it seems that these cracks appeared suddenly and almost a defect in the design of the aircraft

    But actually they were structural tests of a glider !!! Through it passes any aircraft in trials.

    PAKFu will be raped, including until they reveal all the possible flaws in the design of the airframe. Every plane goes through this!

    all in all, these cracks were revealed in one of the planes that flew 9400 "flight hours", which is about 17 years of active operation and only after them two "small" cracks appeared in the glider. This exceeds the original 8000 hour durability requirement. Nevertheless, this result can be improved - we have already thought of a small change in the design that will make the glider heavier by less than a kilogram.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/10/lockheed-fighter-cracks-idUSL1N0I02FS2
    0131010
  22. me
    me 14 October 2013 17: 37
    +2
    A properly honest Jew says that one must first deal with his problems, and not discuss such provocative articles. Do not be like grandmothers on benches and do not be hamsters.
  23. 128mgb
    128mgb 14 October 2013 17: 48
    -1
    8000 flying hours - what is the life span of an airplane in a modern war? Well, if you do not fight with the Papuans. Purely so to speak, academic interest.
    1. me
      me 14 October 2013 18: 30
      0
      So maybe we’ll completely abandon military aviation?
      1. svp67
        svp67 14 October 2013 18: 42
        +1
        Quote: i
        So maybe we’ll completely abandon military aviation?

        Thanks to the person depicted on your "avaterk", we almost did it ...
  24. svp67
    svp67 14 October 2013 18: 00
    -3
    Lockheed Martin and the F-35 Joint Program Management reported that two structural cracks in the airframe bulkheads were detected during static tests of the F-35B aircraft version with a vertical landing, reported October at flightglobal.com.

    Conclusion: can not be restored, write off ...
  25. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 14 October 2013 19: 16
    +5
    I THINK, if you ask VAFa, then THEM (cracks) and the T-50 are NOT LESS to show up ...

    NEW materials and technologies, DO NOT AVOID THIS ... crying
  26. grapefruit
    grapefruit 14 October 2013 19: 20
    +4
    Quote: Pacifist
    Standard test procedure for strength. Nothing special, as well as the test results. The message, by and large about anything.


    And on a small account - about nothing. True - I have never seen any of our messages. Maybe it should be that way ... Otherwise, they will create Duma-Senate commissions, they will spend a lot of money ... And the test engineer will tell everyone in the smoking room, they say, "It's not at all clear on such statics how the planes did not fall off ..." There is a lot of noise. empty space ..
  27. 094711601
    094711601 14 October 2013 19: 53
    0
    The Americans have a well-developed mechanism for pumping out additional allocations for any military project, i.e., after the initial tests, a structural defect is detected, right there, a message appears in the media about minor problems that arose during the tests / this is for taxpayers / , and in high offices agree on additional financing / to whom - how much /. Simple and strict. The main thing for theft is rarely attracted!
  28. SPACE
    SPACE 14 October 2013 20: 56
    0
    This aircraft has no sense and efficiency, NEVER. A problematic design, an ill-conceived concept, overweight, without a reserve of mass and engine thrust, and therefore without prospects. Yes, of course he will fly and will most likely be adopted, only he is not destined to fight seriously. In short, for them it’s like a suitcase without a handle, it’s hard to drag, it’s a pity to drop it.
    1. Perforator
      Perforator 14 October 2013 21: 21
      +1
      Throwing is not only a pity, but also scary. Go then explain to the congress what the hell that so many funds swelled into the unapproachable, and even during the most severe financial crisis.
  29. bilgesez
    bilgesez 14 October 2013 22: 10
    +1
    Well, that they pounced on a poor honest Jew, he lives in Israel and does not touch anyone, and let him live. he needs to be bored there and Russian Jews should be sent to him in Israel to let them discuss who wants what, but here they’re not crap.
  30. Nayhas
    Nayhas 14 October 2013 22: 10
    +3
    A vivid example of how to present news. Or rather, gentlemen, commentators relate to the topic of F-35, read, not a damn thing to understand, boo. In theory, the news is good (for American taxpayers), the glider will serve much more than planned, and if you strengthen the weaknesses by spending an additional 1 kg., Then even more. The news is that Lockheed Martin engineers laid a safety margin in excess of the required and this margin can be increased without any special costs. Sorry, but those who started the standard street organ about the futility and worthlessness are outspoken fools and gorlopans.
    PS: I understand that the comment from my comment will be of little use, because armor in three loaves of bread can not be pierced, so I give occasion once again to mock the F-35: The development of an alternative helmet for the F-35 pilot, which has been working since September 2011, has been stopped BAE Systems company.
    If you do not read the whole news, then you can begin to gloatly rub your hands ...
    1. iwind
      iwind 14 October 2013 23: 04
      0
      The development of an alternative helmet for the F-35 pilot, which BAE Systems has been involved in since 2011, has been discontinued

      You can of course mock it ... But the closure of the program is due to the fact that the main helmet is ready and in the second generation of the main helmet the problems that arose in the first were solved. So with LRIP-7, all F-35s already come with VSI HMDS Gen.II.
  31. starhina01
    starhina01 14 October 2013 22: 43
    +2
    who never fell he never rose soldierone way or another, but they’re working on it hi
  32. FlyEngine
    FlyEngine 14 October 2013 22: 51
    +2
    Strange, very strange.
    We found two cracks after 9000 (!) Hours of testing, and you began to spit in the direction of this aircraft even more.

    And the fact that at our MAKS-2011 our PAK-FA shamefully did not fly up with surging right engine in front of thousands of people is normal, it's okay!

    Why are you stubbornly throwing stones at an American plane? Why is the slightest comment on him provokes so much applause? Why OUR problems do not concern you so much as THEIR problems? Why?
    1. iwind
      iwind 14 October 2013 23: 39
      +1
      I don’t understand either. The plane not only fulfilled the plan, but exceeded it, and after completion I think it will be no less than 10.000.
      To the question of 9400 hours, is it a lot or a little? For example, compare with the Su-30MKI / Su-35 airframe resource of 6000 hours for 25 years.
    2. mikkado31
      mikkado31 15 October 2013 01: 44
      -1
      Because throwing poop towards the competitor is more pleasant than raking your own. Rising from the knees in full growth, tax
  33. Turkestan
    Turkestan 15 October 2013 01: 14
    +1
    Found Cracks. That’s not seen. There is nothing terrible for this and factory and military tests are carried out. There are cracks on all planes and helicopters. And I’ll open a secret with them flying if they are in the tolerances established by the design bureau. Designers know when they may appear and where. For this, aviation improvements are being carried out to strengthen the fuselage and equipment and thorough repairs to attract the entire operation of the aircraft. An example of the AN-12 has about 2500 improvements half to strengthen the fuselage.