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US experts will be allowed to photograph the garrisons of the Russian Federation

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US experts will be allowed to photograph the garrisons of the Russian Federation

Next week, some Russian and Belarusian military garrisons will inspect, photograph and take video from the air by experts from the United States and Sweden.


Their business trip is provided for by the international agreement "Open Skies". Inspection areas are agreed in advance with our and Belarusian generals. Flight routes are limited in distance, and the owners are strictly forbidden to hide something from foreign controllers. It turns out the way the military unit - fix it on film. But do not ask the crew to land near the garrison. What is called, to touch someone else's hands weapon and nobody will allow you the technique. The representatives of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and Belarus, who are on board, will strictly follow this.

- The point of air inspections is to prevent sudden attacks on neighboring territories. Signed in Helsinki on March 24, 1992, the Treaty allows inspectors to remove the movements of troops and ships, as well as any objects of the army and naval infrastructure, - explained to the correspondent of "RG" in the Russian military department.

To work in the skies of the Union State, inspectors use the American aircraft OS-135. This is the military version of the Boeing-707. By the way, all inspection planes do not have weapons, but they are equipped with various control equipment. In general, according to the Agreement, you can have video, optical, panoramic and personnel cameras, infrared horizontal scanners and synthesized equipment radars for shooting day and night in any weather. The main requirement for photographs and video materials - they must clearly recognize the main types of military equipment. A copy of any shooting can be requested and received by each party to the Treaty.

It happens that controllers fly on someone else's equipment. For example, Belarusians prefer to study foreign military facilities from the board of Russian cars. It happened that, for example, the British traveled to our country on Swedish aircraft company SAAB.

As for our special boards used under the Open Skies program, these are An-30B and Tu-154MLK1 aircraft certified according to international standards. As a rule, they fly abroad from Chkalovskaya air base near Moscow.

Dossier "RG"

The initial concept of mutual aerial surveillance was proposed by US President Eisenhower in 1955, and the signing of the Open Sky Treaty was initiated by George W. Bush in 1989. Initially, the document was signed by 27 states, including the USA and Russia. Today, the list of participants has expanded to more than three dozen countries. In particular, Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, Great Britain, Hungary, Germany, Greece, Georgia, Denmark, Iceland, Spain, Italy, Canada, Latvia, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Romania, Slovakia take part in it. , USA, Turkey, Ukraine, Finland, France, Czech Republic, Sweden. The contract has an unlimited duration and is open to other states.
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  1. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 14 October 2013 13: 23
    +3
    ... Flight routes are limited in distance, and the owners are strictly forbidden to hide something from foreign controllers. It turns out the military unit - fix it on tape ...

    A Huhu is not hoho?
    Isn't it overkill in the "new vision of the Armed Forces"?

    ... To work in the sky of the Union State, inspectors use the American aircraft OS-135В - this is a military version of the Boeing-707. Incidentally, all inspection aircraft are not equipped with weapons, but are equipped with various monitoring equipment ...

    This is alarming.
    Fuck you know what they stuffed this plane with. And you won’t check it.
    In fact, we let the scout into our skies, but before we shot down ...
    Why can't they "inspect" on our planes?
    Maybe I don't understand something about my armored ground "tower"? ...
    request
    1. Kars
      Kars 14 October 2013 13: 29
      +9
      Quote: Aleks tv
      In fact, we let the scout into our skies, but before we shot down ...
      Why can't they "inspect" on our planes?

      There, the Russian Federation also conducts flights on its own aircraft. Everything is fair in principle.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 14 October 2013 13: 37
        -1
        Quote: Kars
        There, the Russian Federation also conducts flights, spends on its own aircraft.

        Thanks for the info, Andrew.

        And what are these airplanes like?
        Where are they stored during the inter-inspection period? On "their" territory?
        Our not worse?
        It would be interesting to hear the opinion of specialists.
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 15 October 2013 05: 20
          0
          As for our special boards used under the Open Skies program, these are An-30B and Tu-154MLK1 aircraft certified according to international standards. As a rule, they fly abroad from Chkalovskaya air base near Moscow.

          It’s necessary to read the news, not to post empty comments ...
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 14 October 2013 13: 44
      0
      Quote: Aleks tv
      Maybe I don't understand something about my armored ground "tower"? ...

      So, and we, too, have the right to climb exactly the same amount on our technology. Parity.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 14 October 2013 14: 33
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        So and we too have the right to climb them

        This is up to date.
        But the fact that on their planes ... frankly, did not know this.
        It turns out the most real undisguised intelligence.
        Butts who have the best equipment.
        With us, it turns out, Tu-154 LK-1 and An-30V ...

        Again I will ask a question to specialists:
        Is our car worse than the yankens in terms of intelligence?
        At least in general terms.
      2. Airman
        Airman 14 October 2013 19: 20
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Maybe I don't understand something about my armored ground "tower"? ...

        So, and we, too, have the right to climb exactly the same amount on our technology. Parity.

        Such a specialized aircraft with such characteristics will not appear before 2014, and the Americans have been flying for a long time. Moreover, the Americans are laying routes for us, not us. To hell with this, if there are spy satellites, let them dump money there, and they have nothing to do on the territory of Russia and Belarus.
    3. Asgard
      Asgard 14 October 2013 13: 58
      +6
      As the saying goes, Tolirastia, toli pedarasti))))
      Wait she's everywhere, the Westerners surrendered everything, all the secrets, the "perimeter" was turned off, The most efficient missiles R-36M2 and mines blew up ,,,,, cut and destroyed the BZHRK, which the Americans could not track ...
      Westerners climb in parts and military design bureaus, lure specialists, buy shares of defense industry enterprises and intentionally bankrupt (they print green papers and it costs nothing to them))
      The Wooden Stool reduced the Military Institutions and planted "brigades" and how they should interact (doctrine)) no one came up withInstitutes-KOEPETS !!!!
      We have NO - the Chemical Protection Academy, the Kuibyshev Engineering Academy, the Academy of Armored Forces were destroyed .......
      can continue .....
      Air defense reduced, hope for five giant stations of the Voronezh system)))
      Moon Deals
    4. PLO
      PLO 14 October 2013 14: 31
      +1
      Fuck you know what they stuffed this plane with. And you won’t check it.

      that's just the point that they check
      there are restrictions on the resolution of optics, etc. etc.

      Tu-214ON


      Tu-214ON is equipped with an on-board aviation surveillance complex (BKAN) developed by JSC "Concern of Radio Engineering" Vega. The BKAN includes personnel and panoramic aerial photographic equipment, television and infrared cameras, side-looking radar. Resolution of digital cameras is limited to 30 cm, infrared - 50 cm ...
    5. 225chay
      225chay 14 October 2013 15: 17
      +1
      Quote: Aleks tv
      This is alarming ...
      In fact, we let the scout into our sky ...


      With what kind of hangover are they going to see here and still take pictures?
      All have already sold moral Saxon bedding
  2. Oskar
    Oskar 14 October 2013 13: 29
    +1
    N.S. Khrushchev rejected this "document" at one time. In 1992 they pushed through - other realities appeared in the country ...
  3. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 14 October 2013 13: 38
    +2
    Why take a picture, for missile guidance systems?
  4. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 14 October 2013 13: 44
    +3
    In the language of one thing: OHR-e-NET .... fool
  5. Laodamand
    Laodamand 14 October 2013 13: 46
    0
    So according to me, and so we fly over the Yankees
  6. major071
    major071 14 October 2013 13: 46
    +5
    Such flights are held regularly from the moment of signing the contract. And ours fly and fly to us. Routes are agreed in advance, and for the time that will pass from the moment of coordination to the flight itself, much can be hidden. Moreover, all routes are short and flights are made near the border. soldier
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 14 October 2013 14: 39
      +3
      major071

      I apologize...

      I manage such flights as an air traffic controller. They have been held for quite some time (from the middle of 90's). And this is not news. Here you are right.

      The last time the flight was carried out along the route: Chkalovsky - Rostov-on-Don (landing) - Chkalovsky.

      Over the territory of the Saratov ATS Center, the flight passed through the following points: the entrance to the area (for example, St. Poltavka) - Engels-2 (airfield DA) - Dubki (airfield DOSAAF (ROSTO)) - Sokol (airfield airfield Syzransky VNIC VVA) - Atkarsk - exit from the area.
      Flight level - FL-60 (1850 m), FL-70 (2150 m).

      In addition, they are often inspected: Gorny (chemical weapons processing plant), n. Shikhany (research institute and training ground for the RHBZ troops), Tatishchevo (headquarters of the Strategic Missile Forces division), Berezovka (warehouses ... "be silent, be silent"), Balakovo nuclear power plant and hydroelectric power station, mine areas and areas of maneuvering Tatishchevskaya div. Strategic Missile Forces.

      At the time of the flight of the GC of the EU, the ATM of the Russian Federation introduces BP (temporary temporary airspace). Introduces restrictions (prohibitions) on flights for GosA aerodromes.

      Radio exchange is conducted in Russian.
      What is equipped with the board, I do not have to and should not know. I know that it is crammed with reconnaissance equipment. And it's all.
      But to evade the declared route is categorically forbidden to him. Only in the event of an emergency, bad MU and with the permission of the representative of the GC of the EU ATM of the Russian Federation (located on board) with an indication of a specific reason.

      Therefore, I allow myself to doubt the short routes and the mandatory proximity of the state border (for some reason, they are not interested in the border with Kazakhstan) for such flights.

      And for this pleasure we have to say thank you to Grandpa Bora! ...
      1. 225chay
        225chay 14 October 2013 15: 22
        +2
        Quote: aviamed90
        And for this pleasure we have to say thank you to Grandpa Bora! ...

        what the hell is he "grandpa" ??
        Damn Boriska, or the Devil fight him the most popular name
  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 14 October 2013 13: 49
    +4
    Here WE BUILD AND BUILD, and finally ... belay .. mother ihti go ..
  8. pahom54
    pahom54 14 October 2013 14: 01
    +4
    Can anyone explain to me normally - and on kukui we need it ??? The fact that our planes allegedly fly "there" - I did not see in the article, and where is there ??? Over the States, or what ??? From what side do the Americans participate in the inspection? Are we bordering territories with them ??? And why did the Swedes itch ??? That tomorrow we will go to conquer their rocky territories ??? So we have enough of our own, God forbid we can handle them ...
    In general, all these checks are only in order to somehow “crap” Russia once again, to force at least some agreements to comply.
    Let's imagine: Russia took and sent these inspections to k- (I'm afraid to suggest - well, I shot down the plane by accident ...) - so what ??? They have nothing to fly over our territory, and there is nothing to allow any inspections, Russia is not Nigeria, not the Ivory Coast and Côte d'Ivoire ...
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 14 October 2013 15: 10
      +1
      pahom54

      Well, why immediately - bring down?
      If so unbearable, you can simply withdraw from the Agreement.

      Ours, by the way, fly with the same goals in the United States. I know that for sure.
      And in general, we, too, can fly with these goals over the territory of those countries that have signed the Treaty. Only on our part you need desire.

      In particular, he witnessed the performance of such flights over our territory of aircraft (OS-135в) of the air forces of the countries: Czech Republic, USA, Canada, Turkey, Italy, Slovakia.

      By the way, Georgia withdrew from the Treaty in 2011. What I learned from the CPSU.
      1. starhina01
        starhina01 14 October 2013 20: 35
        0
        and ours did not accidentally fly over zone 51 bully
    2. mikkado31
      mikkado31 14 October 2013 23: 36
      -5
      All to you just to send. Parity in everything, wasn’t this what you achieved? Russian planes fly in the same way over NATO territories, remove, fix. What are you unhappy with? We are for you, you are for us ... Everything is fair. On Russian aircraft, Russian officers are present, on Russian - NATO.

      And so you feel bad, and so you feel bad. Well you understand how you and to you. You will close it and close it, for example, the exit from the Black Sea via the Bosphorus, and from the Baltic Sea ...
  9. andrei332809
    andrei332809 14 October 2013 14: 04
    +2
    US experts will be allowed to photograph the garrisons of the Russian Federation

    everything?!
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 14 October 2013 14: 59
      +1
      andrei332809

      Well, this author, of course, turned down! ... He went too far, so to speak, in his quest for specificity.

      These gentlemen are interested in large military facilities (airfields, training grounds, strategic missile forces mines, etc.), nuclear facilities (nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power stations, bridges of federal significance, etc.), large industrial facilities of the military-industrial complex (military factories).

      Be calm - they do not need a garrison of any SME (TP). Not that scale!

      As a rule, such objects are closed to flights of any aircraft in restricted areas (except for military airfields and training grounds, of course). So, these gentlemen quite calmly and legally (in accordance with the Treaty) coordinate the flight over such zones with the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces and the FSB.
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  10. Freelancer7
    Freelancer7 14 October 2013 14: 16
    +2
    I hope that they will show only what is planned to be shown. All peace initiatives from NATO are somehow annoying me - there is no faith in them.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 14 October 2013 15: 35
      0
      Freelancer7

      Every year less and less show.
      And not because of secrecy, but you yourself know why ...
      1. Freelancer7
        Freelancer7 16 October 2013 23: 20
        0
        War is not inevitable in the future, only the question is when, where and with whom.
  11. Manager
    Manager 14 October 2013 14: 27
    +1
    Well this is a betrayal of the gentlemen? What happens to this world and country in particular? I just don’t know what to think.
  12. Vitya.
    Vitya. 14 October 2013 14: 38
    +2
    Enrages, Russia as a passage yard has become. Whoever wants to fly, well, Afiget is simple.
  13. kmike
    kmike 14 October 2013 14: 58
    +1
    Also, let them photograph the mines to prevent sudden attacks. They completely collapsed from the oak.
  14. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 14 October 2013 15: 02
    +1
    Once one of the members of the interim government said "Stupidity or treason?"
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 October 2013 15: 40
    +1
    I think this is formally everything. Now, from satellites, photo quality right up to the stars on the shoulder straps is visible. And yet it’s not nice of course. ((((
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 14 October 2013 15: 53
      +1
      MIKHAN

      Satellite imagery is quite expensive. How many stars in pursuit of the general are of little interest to them. They are interested in the things voiced above.

      And here everything is simple and quick, and most importantly - relatively cheap.
      In addition, in addition to photographing aircraft, other equipment is also used:

      "In general, under the Agreement, it is possible to have video, optical, panoramic and frame cameras on board, infrared line scanners and radars with synthesized equipment for shooting day and night in any weather." (article author)
  16. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 14 October 2013 15: 59
    +2
    routine terrain mapping for the guidance and target designation system, satellites do not allow this to be done so accurately, ready-made targets, Sir.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 14 October 2013 16: 01
      +1
      Possible.

      But we are doing the same thing - it is at least somehow reassuring.
  17. alone
    alone 14 October 2013 18: 33
    0
    EBN, as always, ended up in its repertoire. Even nothing to say
  18. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 14 October 2013 20: 59
    +1
    We have them, we have them. This is constantly being done, the more they "see" here, the more green they will spend. I don't understand why you are boiling?
  19. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 14 October 2013 23: 53
    0
    Quote: mikkado31
    You will close it and close it, for example, the exit from the Black Sea via the Bosphorus, and from the Baltic Sea ...

    Like this, military use of something (war brother ... war).
  20. POCC
    POCC 14 October 2013 23: 55
    0
    Quote: Asgard
    As the saying goes, Tolirastia, toli pedarasti))))
    Wait she's everywhere, the Westerners surrendered everything, all the secrets, the "perimeter" was turned off, The most efficient missiles R-36M2 and mines blew up ,,,,, cut and destroyed the BZHRK, which the Americans could not track ...
    Westerners climb in parts and military design bureaus, lure specialists, buy shares of defense industry enterprises and intentionally bankrupt (they print green papers and it costs nothing to them))
    The Wooden Stool reduced the Military Institutions and planted "brigades" and how they should interact (doctrine)) no one came up withInstitutes-KOEPETS !!!!
    We have NO - the Chemical Protection Academy, the Kuibyshev Engineering Academy, the Academy of Armored Forces were destroyed .......
    can continue .....
    Reduced air defense, the hope of five giant stations of the Voronezh system))) Our am she thinks power in the trash by the place on which she sits
    Moon Deals

    soldier
  21. serjant4
    serjant4 15 October 2013 10: 29
    0
    maybe even their troops let go for a walk on our open spaces? !!! complete nonsense! what are you doing enemy at the gate !!!