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Moscow, 1977: how to blow up the "prison of nations"

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Moscow, 1977: how to blow up the "prison of nations"

The consequences of the explosion in the Moscow metro in 1977 year. Photo: FSB archive



The first terrorist attack in the Moscow metro occurred in 1977. According to the official version, it was organized by Armenian separatists.
The Soviet Union was not a state whose citizens could not worry about the terrorist threat. Explosions and hijackings occurred regularly, especially often in the last years of the USSR. As a rule, separatists or people who tried to escape abroad resorted to violence.

8 January 1977 in Moscow thundered three explosions: in a subway car on the stretch between the Izmailovskaya and Pervomayskaya stations, then at the grocery store on Lubyanka, not far from the KGB buildings. The last device was laid in the urn near the grocery store number 5 on the street 25 October (now Nikolskaya). The explosions killed seven people, 37 were injured. Responsibility for the attacks no one took.

The KGB almost immediately assumed that the explosions were the work of separatists, Ukrainian or Armenian. In an interview with Nezavisimaya Gazeta, a member of the operational investigation team, KGB lieutenant colonel Arkady Yarovoy, told that they had been ordered to “remove and melt all the snow from the roof of the Historical and Archival Institute, which was located on the 25 anniversary of October near the explosion site”. The first evidence was found there - a small arrow from the “Glory” alarm clock produced by the Yerevan Watch Factory.

The bombs were packed in utyatnitsy - cast-iron thick-walled roomy pans with a heavy lid. (The executors of the terrorist attack in Boston resorted to the same reception in 2013, the FBI determined that the Tsarnaev brothers had placed explosive devices in a pressure cooker.)

Having collected fragments of utyatnits, the investigators found out that they were made at a factory in Kharkov. “I was lucky: it turned out on the spot that this batch - all 50 utyatnits - was experimental, had a special color and composition of enamel, which didn’t go to the trading network. The authorities used them as gifts, and I managed to make a list of those who became the owner of such a rare product, ”Yarovaya said.

But all these painstaking investigations could have failed, if not for the case at the Kursk railway station in Moscow: in October 1977 of the year, that is, 8 months after the first explosion, the patrol discovered a bag with an inoperative explosive device. In the bag, investigators found a blue sports jacket with an Olympic patch from Yerevan and a hat with earflaps, and in it - some black curly hair.

Police began searching for passengers who are suitable for signs on all trains of the southern direction, as well as at airports: special services assumed that the perpetrators of the failed attack immediately left Moscow.

On the train on the border of Georgia and Armenia, the police turned their attention to Hakob Stepanyan - he was wearing blue sweatpants from the same set as the jacket he had found earlier - and his friend Zaven Baghdasaryan. They could not explain the purpose of the trip to Moscow. They were transferred to Yerevan.

During searches in the apartments of Stepanyan and Bagdasaryan, investigators found additional evidence, including new bombs. After some time, the detainees testified at the third - the organizer and mastermind of the terrorist attacks, the former activist of the separatist "National United Party" Stepan Zatikyan.

The heyday of nationalism in Armenia

In 1964, the USSR once again adjusted its ideological course. The first secretary of the CPSU, Nikita Khrushchev, "dismissed", Leonid Brezhnev came to power. The thaw of the 60s was over. But Yerevan continued to live according to the old rules for some time, that is, in a regime of relative freedom. The most important issue that the intelligentsia discussed in those years was historical events of 50 years ago.

The massacres of Armenians living in the territory of the Ottoman Empire began in the late 19th century. Then the Turks killed tens of thousands of people. But truly large-scale deportations, expulsions and extermination of the non-Muslim population — including Assyrians and Greeks — began in the 1915 year, after the Young Turks came to power.

In the period before 1923, according to various estimates, from 800 thousand to 1,5 million people died. Even more Armenians fled to other countries, establishing numerous diasporas there.


Armenian woman next to a dead child not far from Aleppo, 1915 year. Photo: US Library of Congress


Armenian family near Aleppo, 1915 year. Photo: US Library of Congress
After the defeat in the First World War, the Sevres Peace Treaty was signed, according to which the territories of Eastern Turkey, where Armenians lived before the genocide, were withdrawn to Armenia. However, in the 1920 year, the Majlis of Turkey did not ratify this document. Three years later, a new peace treaty was signed in Lausanne on more favorable terms to Turkey.

The fiftieth anniversary of the genocide came on April 24 1965. Local authorities understood that it was impossible to ignore this date. Moscow allowed modest in scope and restrained in tone "official" events.

But unexpectedly for the authorities in Yerevan began a mass demonstration, in which up to one hundred thousand people took part. The implication was that this was a mourning procession, but the slogans of the audience - and these were mostly young people - rather called for revenge.

The participants chanted “Earth!”, “Earth!”, Demanding the return of the territories of Armenia, which are under the control of Turkey, as well as Nagorno-Karabakh and Nakhichevan - by the decision of the Soviet government they went to Azerbaijan.

The protesters carried posters "To solve the Armenian question fairly!" They gathered outside the opera house, where at that time there was an official event. Negotiators from among those invited to the opera intelligentsia asked the protesters to disperse, stones responded in response. Firefighters standing at the ready sent firearms to the crowd. The demonstration was broken up, and later in the evening and at night, warriors beat passersby with mourning badges on their chests.

The next year, 1966, the demonstrations and marches were repeated, the authorities stopped them more and more harshly. The police and the KGB arrested hundreds of people. The intelligentsia was less and less involved in the actions, and the young people were increasingly interested in nationalist ideas.

Shortly before these events in the republic, an unprecedented level of growth of domestic nationalism was noted. The registry offices refused to register children with non-Armenian names, couples began to marry in church, musical groups began to perform the forgotten Armenian medieval music, mainly church music.

Against the background of growing nationalism and a series of mass protests in 1966, an underground separatist organization, the National United Party (NOP), emerged, which later managed to resist the Soviet authorities for several decades - until the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Its founders were artist Haykaz Khachatryan and students Stepan Zatikyan and Shahen Harutyunyan. It was not possible to establish the exact number of activists of the National Socialist Party of Ukraine - even the leaders of the organization find it difficult to name the figure. It is known that they talked about hundreds of supporters.

At that stage, the gradual growth of the ranks was almost the sole purpose of the organization. Ideologists thought that with the help of mass protests they would be able to obtain from the authorities the fulfillment of the Constitution of the Soviet Union, more precisely, article 17 of the basic law: “Every Soviet republic retains the right to freely withdraw from the USSR”.

The first generation of leaders turned out to be behind bars already two years later: in 1968, the first series of arrests and trials on the NOP case took place in Yerevan. Haykaz Khachatryan, Stepan Zatikyan and Shahen Harutyunyan were accused under the article "anti-Soviet agitation and propaganda" and for participation in the "anti-Soviet organization." The court sentenced them to five years.

Stepan Zatikyan.

Paruyr Hayrikyan became a new leader of the Armenian separatists - this man still actively participates in the political life of Armenia, several times put forward his candidacy for the presidential elections in the republic. In those years, Hayrikyan studied at the second year of Yerevan Polytechnic. At the time of the arrest of the leaders, he headed the youth wing of the NOP.

In an interview in the “How It Was” program, Hayrikyan said that, as the head of the youth wing, he commanded at least a hundred activists. The underground organization had a complex structure, its activists often were not familiar with each other - they communicated either through cohesive or through direct leaders.

The conspiracy did not save the next series of arrests: in March 1969, Paruyr Hayrikyan and other activists were sentenced to 4 years in prison for distributing anti-Soviet literature and anti-Soviet propaganda.

NOP was not a terrorist organization, its members did not prepare explosions or sabotage. If the KGB had the slightest suspicion that the activists were preparing terrorist acts, there would have been completely different charges in court, and those arrested would have received much longer terms.

But the former leaders admit that in the first version of the party’s program there were indeed phrases that, if desired, can be interpreted as calls for violence. For example, the 1967 text of the year stated that the NOP would achieve its goals “at any cost”.

Recruits on a mandatory basis took an oath. In the presentation of Paruyr Hayrikyan, it sounds like this:

“On earth, a piece of heaven, earthly paradise, our homeland. Many of your sons sought to ensure that we lived in human conditions, had freedom, that our country was equal among the states of the world, but they became victims. Now it's our turn to fight. If we want to live respecting human dignity, we must be ready for every sacrifice. Motherland, take our oath as a pledge that we become devoted fighters. ”

After some time, the separatists refused this ritual - for religious reasons. "We are a Christian people, and the Bible says," do not swear. " We decided - if you say yes, you say yes, no - no, and the oath is harmful, because everything that you say without it can be a lie, ”explains Hayrikyan.


Paruyr Hayrikyan. Photo: Tigran Mehrabian / RIA News


Arrests and courts did not destroy the organization. At the beginning of 70, all the leaders were again free, including Stepan Zatikyan. Tactics began to change: ideologues abandoned anti-communist statements, and now the separatists have relied on the referendum: the main thing is to get a vote so that the people themselves decide whether to remain a republic within the USSR or become an independent state. The same method is now used by supporters of the branch of Scotland.

While the rest of the activists reanimated the movement, Zatikyan actually left the NOP. “In the 73 year, Zatykian and I had differences. He called me to go to see my relatives abroad, ”Hayrikyan recalls. - He said that it makes no sense to continue the fight, you need to leave. We pulled back. He is my sister's husband, it also became a ground for disagreement: he used to say that we should not have a personal life, since we devoted ourselves to the struggle. ”

In 1974, the KGB re-arrested NOP activists, this time 11 people. Retired Zatikyan remained free. In 1975, he made a desperate attempt to break out of the USSR — he refused Soviet citizenship and applied for departure from the Soviet Union. He was refused.

Foreign experience

The KGB officers claimed that among the other evidence found in Zatikyan’s house during the search, a photograph of “the head of the foreign terrorist organization Dashnaktsutyun” was found. Other leaders argued that “unfortunately” did not have any connections with foreign Armenians, although many counted on the help of communities around the world. But in the post-war period, this organization adhered to a "realistic approach to the issue of attitude towards Soviet Armenia."

The Dashnaktsutyun Party appeared in the 1890s. In exile, the activists of the organization actually repeatedly resorted to terrorist methods.

In October, 1919 of the year, the Dashnaktsutyun congress announced Operation Nemezis, the purpose of which was to liquidate the main organizers of the Armenian Genocide. In the "list of destruction" was listed 41 people

most of them were sentenced in absentia to death by the decision of the Court of Constantinople.

Almost all the killings occurred between 1920 and 1922, killing at least 10 of former high-ranking officials in Turkey and Azerbaijan.

At the beginning of 1970, numerous terrorist groups, both radical leftist sects and nationalist organizations, began to operate actively in different parts of the world. Middle Eastern Armenians are inspired by the activities of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

At various times, there were about a dozen organizations that claimed responsibility for violent acts. The main goal of the terrorists is the same: the leading countries of the world should recognize the fact of the Armenian Genocide by the Turks and the restoration of historical Armenia, which would include the territories of eastern Turkey and the Armenian SSR.

The media began to appear the name "Just commandos of the Armenian genocide", "Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia" (ASALA), "Armenian Liberation Front". Strengthening of military organizations took place against the backdrop of the civil war in Lebanon, where Armenians had to independently defend the neighborhoods of their community.

The first loud action was the seizure of the Turkish embassy in Paris in 1981: the terrorists took 56 hostages and demanded the release of several political prisoners from the Turkish authorities, including the Turkish and Kurdish nationalities. In 1982, this group attacked the airport in Ankara, a year later, it blew up a line to the ticket booths at Orly airport in Paris.

The last attack led to a split in the organization: some of the militants were unhappy that random people of non-Turkish nationality were killed, and spoke out against the methods of "blind terror".

It is noteworthy that at the same time with the Armenian underground organizations the same methods and in the same historical period were used by other nationalist forces: the Basque ETA, the Irish IRA, the Québec Liberation Front and other separatists around the world.

In total, over the 30 years of activity, various armed groups of Armenians committed at least 200 terrorist attacks and 70 political assassinations, more than 40 attempts, more than half a thousand people were injured. The fact of the Armenian Genocide was recognized by more than 20 countries, including the United States and France.

Court and execution

The lawyer who defended Zatikyan recalls that during the investigation he never admitted his guilt. His accomplices gave confused, contradictory testimony: first they claimed one thing, and then the exact opposite.

The trial lasted 8 days. According to human rights activists, it was held in a super-closed mode. Witnesses of the terrorist attack and officials of the authorities say the opposite - that everyone who wanted, including representatives of the Armenian intelligentsia, was present in the conference room.

The archives of the FSB kept records with the last word of the accused: the perpetrators of the terrorist attack admit that they had indeed laid bombs. Zatikyan behaves differently - from the first days of the process he behaved with hostility, did not recognize the court and refused to participate in the meetings; he was removed several times from the hall.

“I have repeatedly said that I renounce your trial, and I don’t need any defenders! - shouted Zatikyan during the last word. “I am the accuser myself, and not the defendant, you are not subject to me to judge, since the Judeo-Russian empire is not a legal state, it must be firmly remembered.”

Then he switched to Armenian: “Tell others - revenge remains and only revenge”.

All defendants were sentenced to death, and after 5 days - in record time, without the usual delay in such cases - they carried out the sentence.

The public response to the verdict was controversial. Soviet human rights activists came to the conclusion that the attacks were a provocation by the KGB, and the executed separatists were guilty only of hating the Soviet Union. Andrei Sakharov demanded a review of the case - perhaps the only case where a human rights activist stood up for people accused of terrorism.

Do not believe the official version and fellow NOP. Previously convicted (at that time, 1974 people arrested in 11 continued to sit in jails) were called in for questioning in the case of terrorist acts, but the KGB did not achieve any evidence confirming the investigation.

“I became a victim, my only fault is that I leave two children,” said Zatikyan immediately after the verdict to his wife.

In the Soviet newspapers about the sentence almost did not write. In Izvestia, a tiny note about the sentence to the “three terrorists” was published, but only the last name Zatikyan was mentioned. Armenian media have been banned from writing about this case.

But the matter was still discussed in the republic. NOP's reputation suffered greatly. Despite the fact that the sympathizers did not believe in the official version, people still admitted the thought: “what if they are still involved in the terror?”

Paruyr Hayrikyan sets out his version: “If they had blown up the KGB, I would understand. But then there was the triumph of our party, 11 political prisoners. People of other nationalities sitting in the camps joined our party en masse. Initially, rumors were being launched in this matter that the Zionists did it, but they were well protected and did not touch them, they decided to blame the Armenians. ”
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  1. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 15 October 2013 08: 00
    19
    I remember this story from Soviet times.
    Truly, do not wait for goodness — our people have repeatedly saved the Armenians from extermination by the Turks, and in response to the bombs and the death of innocent people so that the Turks again set their brains in one place.
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    3. xetai9977
      xetai9977 15 October 2013 10: 17
      +3
      Zatikyan's last words were- "You are not competent to judge me, on the contrary, I will judge you .... There is no sense from Russia for Armenia ... Tell others that we are left with revenge, revenge and revenge ..." And then this is what some say about "centuries-old Armenian-Russian friendship"
      1. Gennady1973
        Gennady1973 15 October 2013 12: 42
        +5
        That's right. There are probably more Armenians now living in Russia than in Armenia itself. "There is no sense from Russia for Armenia ..." but vice versa?
        1. MilaPhone
          MilaPhone 15 October 2013 16: 12
          +4
          Quote: Lech from our city
          so that the Turks set their brains in one place again.

          I don’t understand why I wish death to an entire nation because of a handful of some kind of fanatics. Moreover, mentally underdeveloped.
          It turns out that the merits of all worthy Armenians who brought a lot of benefits to the USSR and Russia are crossed out. And there were very many of them.
          Yes, and this is some kind of troubled thing. Honestly, I'd rather consider these psychos as killers of our citizens than my KGB. In any case, ordinary people should not suffer from this.
          1. Ka-52
            Ka-52 15 October 2013 18: 08
            +1
            “I have repeatedly said that I renounce your trial, and I don’t need any defenders! - shouted Zatikyan during the last word. “I am the accuser myself, and not the defendant, you are not subject to me to judge, since the Judeo-Russian empire is not a legal state, it must be firmly remembered.”

            Previously, there were a few, now thousands! (this applies to all nationalities)
            Which once again proves the mental ill health of our society. recourse
          2. alone
            alone 15 October 2013 19: 13
            +4
            Quote: Milafon
            And mentally underdeveloped.


            Sorry, of course I fit into this question. Of course, I am also against the fact that for some reason I wish the death of an entire nation. and a lot of mentally underdeveloped, let me note that if they are mentally underdeveloped let them blow themselves up in a deserted place. This applies to all such ghouls regardless of nationality
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  3. svskor80
    svskor80 15 October 2013 08: 50
    +7
    But now they are independent, proud, but poor. Everyone chooses his own path. Russia needs to remember how we lived together and who did what after.
  4. Echo
    Echo 15 October 2013 09: 42
    +9
    Quote: Lech from our city
    Truly, do not wait for goodness — our people have repeatedly saved the Armenians from extermination by the Turks, and in response to the bombs and the death of innocent people so that the Turks again set their brains in one place.

    I don't think it was the will of the Armenian people. Rather, these scum who detonated the bombs were just a bunch of dead monsters, traitors and enemies of the Armenian people who acted in the interests of anyone, but not Armenians. Only one expression of Zatikyan "... the Russian empire" speaks of everything at once - this man was just a morbid child, a schizophrenic, who understood the pain and dreams of the Armenian people through the prism of his perverted and damaged consciousness. Zatikyan was something like the forerunner of our schizophrenics, liberal worms, who, due to brain pathologies, themselves do not understand what they want, but since they suffer from an irrepressible thirst for destructive activity, the enemy uses this, inciting them against society.

    So the control seal in the brainless head was rightly wrong. The fraternal Armenian people have become less vile enemies.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 15 October 2013 12: 04
      +5
      I read somewhere that in Soviet times the ArmSSR was the only almost mono-national republic. and what did they miss? independence? or did someone eat them? didn’t the Russians take away the Armenian lands from Turkey?
      now there is independence and probably non-Armenians have become even less in the country - and so what? richer than steel? and who is preventing the land from being taken from Turkey now? again the evil gluttonous Ivan?
    2. Gari
      Gari 15 October 2013 12: 32
      +4
      Soviet human rights activists came to the conclusion that the terrorist attacks were a provocation of the KGB, and the executed separatists are guilty of only hating the Soviet Union.
      Initially, rumors were circulating in this case that the Zionists did it, but they were well protected and did not begin to touch them, they decided to blame them on Armenians. ”
      ALL THIS was a provocation

      Quote: Echo
      Rather, these scumbags who blew up the bombs were just a bunch of freaks, traitors and enemies of the Armenian people, acting in the interests of anyone but not Armenians.


      I agree with you 100%, although again the big question is who did this? Scum everywhere enough.
      Armenians have never been against Russians and Russia.
      The President of Armenia stated proof of this, and the people of Armenia fully supported him - Armenia is a member of the Customs Union and the Eurasian
  5. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 15 October 2013 10: 27
    12
    How many Armenians I have seen in my 31 years, I can only say one thing: decent and cultured people.

    And this Zatikyan is an unhappy person who either did not know or did not want to know the History of his homeland. And the attack, in my opinion, is a shame for the performers. In the end, in Transcaucasia there were many Soviet military units of various combat arms. If Zatikyan really wanted to declare himself and his movement - he would attack some motorized rifle regiment, or at least some engineering military unit. That would be manly and quite epic. But no, it’s easier to do something that makes you stay alive ......
    1. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 15 October 2013 11: 59
      +4
      Quote: Fuzeler
      How many Armenians I have seen in my 31 years, I can only say one thing: decent and cultured people.

      In my 31 years I have also seen a lot of Armenians and therefore I will also speak out - there were a minority of decent and honest ones. While they need something from you, "slush brother jian", as soon as they get what they need, they won't give them up, at best - "I'm sorry, brother is very busy, we'll talk later." Of course, there were worthy representatives, but rather as an exception. Of course, there are no bad or good peoples, there are bad or good people, but it is not for nothing that it is said about the Armenians - "when the first Armenian was born, the Jew shed a tear." We must not forget that the Armenian elites in Turkey played the same role as such, only of Jewish origin in Germany at the time the NSDAP came to power. Most of the financial and banking capital was tied precisely to them. I don't want to justify the Turks for the pogroms and murders of ordinary Armenians, but I wanted to explain to some extent their behavior.
      1. Fuzeler
        Fuzeler 15 October 2013 12: 15
        +3
        Well, in vain you are. There were such people as Samson Petrosov, General Loris-Melikov, artist Aivazovsky, Navy Air Force Major Nelson Stepanyan.
        1. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 15 October 2013 18: 50
          +2
          Quote: Fuzeler
          Well, in vain you are. There were such people as Samson Petrosov, General Loris-Melikov, artist Aivazovsky, Navy Air Force Major Nelson Stepanyan.

          That's why I say
          Quote: velikoros-xnumx
          there are no good or bad nations, there are good or bad people

          But unfortunately most of the people I came across were not very decent people.
      2. xtur
        xtur 15 October 2013 15: 12
        -3
        > jian

        You would first have literacy raised, or something - this word is written as jan. Moreover, in the Armenian language there is no letter я - So no one could say that to you, these are your fantasies.
        1. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 15 October 2013 18: 46
          +6
          Quote: xtur
          > jian You would first have tightened up literacy, or something - this word is written as jan. Moreover, there is no letter I in the Armenian language, which means that no one could say that to you, these are your fantasies.

          I don't need Armenian literacy, but in Russian there is a letter "I". Therefore, as I heard, I wrote. Did I do something wrong?
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 16 October 2013 00: 31
          +2
          Quote: xtur
          jan. Moreover, in the Armenian language there is no letter I -

          ..a translation, please from the Armenian word-jan ... wassat
    2. yurii p
      yurii p 15 October 2013 12: 56
      +4
      ... "But no, it's easier to do something that will keep you alive" ...... petty, a terrorist attack against civilians is the meanest thing that has been invented since the beginning of mankind.
  6. smprofi
    smprofi 15 October 2013 10: 34
    +5
    if not for the incident at the Kursk station in Moscow: in October 1977, that is, 8 months after the first explosion, the patrol discovered a bag with an explosive device that did not work. In the bag, the investigators found a blue sports jacket with an Olympic patch from Yerevan and a cap with earflaps, and several black curly hair in it.

    Already the "official" corrected!
    The official legend, presented repeatedly in print, in films and memoirs says something like this: the experts worked, according to the results of the examination through explosives, the remnants of the bombs went to Armenia and then found the performers.
    now a patrol has worked at the Kursk station (in one place a curious passenger and an orphan bag were mentioned) ... mda. finally, they don’t reveal the real. or don’t know.

    in fact, a thief specializing in opening automatic lockers worked at the Kursk station. he was attracted by the Armenians, well-dressed, and the thief grazed them when they put the bag in the cell. he found a bomb in a cell in a bag. it’s not that this thief was super conscious, he simply decided to earn the forgiveness of sins for himself - he told the cops. the duty officer, thank God, also did not get caught. they called the sappers, they drove everyone out of the station. clockwork and batteries were ok. just sappers worked well, in time.
    then, this thief gave a description of these Armenians, portraits. fairly accurate, as such "specialists" simply must have developed visual memory. the specifics of the profession. Well, they took the portraits of Armenians.

    but these Armenians were not taken on the border of Georgia and Armenia and not upon the arrival of the Moscow-Yerevan train (there was such an official version as well), they simply did not ride on it, they were not such fools. but they took it on a train going from Moscow towards the Urals. and already from the Urals, the Armenians planned to leave by plane for sunny Yerevan. did not work out.

    only to tell left and right that the criminal was helped to catch the terrorists, the station thief is not comme il faut! and they’re making a hunchback to the wall.
    1. yurii p
      yurii p 15 October 2013 13: 01
      +1
      and perhaps they are covering up this thief, not to declassify this agent, but there is no doubt that he was recruited, that's just who the specialists or cops are, but this is not essential.
    2. grapefruit
      grapefruit 17 October 2013 20: 57
      0
      Yes, this version of events is the most likely. It sounded in almost the same version in 83, and was mentioned in passing when teaching actions according to the Nabat plan at Aeroflot. As a prehistory of terrorism in the USSR
  7. smersh70
    smersh70 15 October 2013 11: 21
    +9
    the article is more or less believable ... but still there is a line to justify this terrorist act by the so-called genocide ... in 1915 there was no USSR. Moreover, here the USSR ... if I would like to go to blow up the Turkish embassy ... .an no .. it is in Moscow. and there are more Soviet people ... this essence of all Armenian nationalists. for the construction of a great Armenia for them all - .. Russia .. USA, France just need tools to promote their crazy ideas aimed at inciting ethnic hatred to all who stands in their way, are they right or not ...... so this is a reminder to those who shout about the sanctity of relations with Armenia ... coexistence, a recent example of how Armenia wanted to conclude a treaty with the EU an example ...... ......
  8. alone
    alone 15 October 2013 13: 11
    11
    In the fall of 1993, while trying to lay a mine on the Tbilisi-Baku train, Soso Aroyan, a counterintelligence officer of the ZakVO, was detained. Khatkovsky and Aroyan testified, which were reported to Moscow. Russian intelligence agencies joined the case. In May 1994, employees of the FGC of the Russian Federation in Moscow detained a group of organizers of the attacks. To the surprise of the Chekists, all the detainees turned out to be security officers. The group was headed by Lt. Col. Jahan Hovhannisyan, head of the intelligence and sabotage operations department on the territory of the enemy of the State Directorate of National Security (GUNB) of Armenia. The second was his subordinate, Lt. Col. Ashot Galoyan. The third detainee, Major Boris Simonyan, worked in the anti-terrorism department of the FGC of Russia. All three were charged with terrorism, smuggling and illegal possession of weapons and explosives.
    The chief military prosecutor’s office of the Russian Federation, investigating the case, managed to gather evidence of their involvement in the explosion of a train in Azerbaijan and two attempted explosions, one of which was committed in Russia. On the instructions of the terrorists, a train was mined in Derbent, and only thanks to the performer’s mistake the explosive device did not work and was neutralized in Mineralnye Vody. The court recognized that the crimes they committed did indeed fall under Article 213,3 (terrorism), but it turned out to be impossible to convict saboteurs under this article, since at the time the crime was committed there was no such article in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Then article 68th (sabotage) was in effect, but at the time of the trial it was excluded from the Criminal Code. As a result, the head of the terrorists, Jahan Hovhannisyan, was found guilty under Art. 86 of the Criminal Code (damage to communications and vehicles) and the 218th (illegal possession of weapons and ammunition), and sentenced to 6 years. Also, along the 218th, Simonyan and Galoyan were convicted. The first was sentenced to 2 years in prison, and Galoyan, who received a little less, was released from custody right in the courtroom due to the fact that he had served the sentence.

    this is state terrorism. and not the tricks of any scum
    1. Gari
      Gari 15 October 2013 14: 40
      0
      Quote: lonely
      In the fall of 1993, while trying to lay a mine on a Tbilisi-Baku train, Soso Aroyan, a counterintelligence officer of the ZakVO, was detained

      In an article about events in the Biryulev market, which is controlled by Azerbaijanis, and an Azerbaijani killed a Russian, I don’t seem to get into how you immediately blame all Azerbaijanis for your level.
      1. alone
        alone 15 October 2013 14: 52
        +8
        Quote: Gari
        In an article about events in the Biryulev market, which is controlled by Azerbaijanis, and an Azerbaijani killed a Russian, I don’t seem to get into how you immediately blame all Azerbaijanis for your level.


        but I’m not going to blame all Armenians for what has been done.

        Three Armenian intelligence officers were caught in the attack. these people are GOVERNMENTAL OFFICERS who serve in the security system of their country and are engaged in terrorism. Could it be that the MNS of Armenia without the knowledge of higher bosses are involved in this crime? No. There can be no such thing. If you say yes, then you are in these Do not think anything.
        that's why I call it as it sounds state terrorism !!
        1. Gari
          Gari 15 October 2013 15: 18
          +1
          Quote: lonely
          but I’m not going to blame all Armenians for what has been done.


          ,, counterintelligence officer ZakVO Soso Haroyan ,, - If I am not mistaken ZakVO Transcaucasian Military District and in 1993 already the Russian Army, that is, in fact, have nothing to do with Armenia and the civil services of Armenia.
          This is first
          And secondly, provide at least one link, but from your press, I read a lot of similar tales there.
          And thirdly, what does this have to do with this article?
          That is, according to the principle of once about the Armenians, then let all the slops on the Armenians to the place or not matter.
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 15 October 2013 15: 32
            0
            You are "heroes" to fight and kill children and women. The blood of more than 600 innocent victims of Khojaly cries out for retribution. Gary, what "moral principles" will you justify this? Both you and we know perfectly well what's what. With your rantings we can mislead others, but not us. How will you justify the blood of the same peaceful Muscovites? As always "age-old friendship"? The blood of ALL innocent victims cries out for RETURN.
            1. Gari
              Gari 15 October 2013 15: 54
              +4
              Quote: xetai9977
              http://www.eylence.az/blogs/media/blogs/eylence/2008/02/1014.jpg

              Is there no other site?
              Not yours where fairy tales can write like that
              Well, they themselves raised Khojaly at the expense of
              ... The authorities of Nagorno-Karabakh notified the Azerbaijani side of the preparation of the operation to suppress the firing points of Khojaly two months before its start. Hundreds of civilians of Khojaly died 10-11 kilometers from the village, in the vicinity of the city of Agdam controlled by the Azerbaijani armed forces, where the support unit of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces was based. ... The Azerbaijani side did not take any action to withdraw the civilian population from the combat zone. 45 Armenian hostages were held in Khojaly, the fate of 34 is unknown. The Czech journalist Mazalova was on the battlefield immediately after the events, and did not see any atrocities on the corpses, then she was through A couple of days, with other media representatives, and saw the disfigured bodies, the same. Azerbaijani cameraman Chingiz Mustafayev, twice filmed a video, the second time the corpses were disfigured. After his report to the "DR-Press" news agency in Moscow about the possible involvement of the Azerbaijani side in crimes against Khojaly residents, the journalist was killed near Aghdam under unclear circumstances.

              From an interview with the former President of Azerbaijan Ayaz Mutalibov to Czech journalist Dana Mazalova, NG 2.04.92

              Question - What do you think about the events in Khojaly, after which you resigned? The bodies of Khojaly residents were found near Agdam. Someone first shot at the legs so that they could not move on. Then he added with an ax, on February 29 my colleagues took them off. During a new shoot, March 2, these same corpses were scalped. What a strange game ...

              Answer - As those Khojaly residents who escaped say, it was all organized so that there was a reason for my resignation. Some force was acting to discredit the president. I don’t think that the Armenians, who are very clear and competent in such situations, could allow the Azerbaijanis to receive documents exposing them in fascist actions. It can be assumed that someone was interested in subsequently showing these shots at the session of the Armed Forces and focusing everything on my person.

              If I declare that it is the fault of the Azerbaijani opposition, they can say that I slander them. But the general background of reasoning is such that the corridor along which people could leave was still abandoned by the Armenians. Why should they shoot then? Especially in the territory close to Agdam, where by that time there was enough strength to go out and help people. Or simply agree that civilians are leaving. This practice has been all the time.
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 15 October 2013 16: 10
                +3
                I didn't expect anything else from you, they say, the dead are to blame for being killed in the most inhuman way (cut off their heads, gouged out their eyes, gutted), and nothing to do with the "long-suffering" Armenians ... And the Muscovites were blown up by the Martians
                1. Gari
                  Gari 15 October 2013 16: 34
                  +4
                  Quote: xetai9977
                  Nothing else from you

                  Our:
                  Czech journalist Mazalova
                  Azerbaijani operator Chingiz Mustafayev
                  Former President of Azerbaijan Ayaz Mutalibov
                  Everything is based on lies and falsification.
                  Starting from your history, when our state was created in 1918 in our historical lands of Karabakh, Nakhichevan and Gandzak, the living Tatars, Persians, Tats, Udins. Lezgin, your nation was created.
                  You are "heroes" to fight and kill children and women
                  You accused me and my nation of this and made me angry, and it wasn’t necessary, I don’t envy whoever does this, you’ll answer
                  I’ll go all the way and lay out your entire real story with a coin of creation and only facts, but you will have to be ready to meet and talk manly.
            2. Gari
              Gari 15 October 2013 16: 06
              +1
              Quote: xetai9977
              How do you justify the blood of the same peaceful Muscovites?

              One of the peaceful Muscovites your Azerbaijani killed in Biryulev recently, a simple stranger on the street
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 15 October 2013 16: 14
                +1
                Unlike you, we condemn the criminal, but you are blocking the monster who blew up children and women, saying that he is not to blame, he was framed, and he does not boast at the trial, but almost an alien ..
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 16 October 2013 00: 33
                +3
                Quote: Gari
                One of the peaceful Muscovites your Azerbaijani killed in Biryulev recently, a simple stranger on the street
                Reply Citiro


                so yours was already killed as many as 17 people and about 40 wounded ...... on the truck ... moreover, your statement .... fool
            3. Gari
              Gari 15 October 2013 16: 44
              +1
              Quote: xetai9977
              You are "heroes" to fight and kill children and women.

              In the photo of the article, the mother cries over a child brutally murdered by the Turks, and it is interesting that no one paid attention to this - a killed child !!!
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              2. Lech from our city
                Lech from our city 15 October 2013 20: 00
                -1
                You are mistaken, I noticed - about the brutally at the beaten one does not see the traces of this atrocity, rather the child died from starvation or illness (and why was the mother and the other girl not killed then)?
                A lot of questions for the photo.
                1. Gari
                  Gari 15 October 2013 21: 59
                  0
                  Quote: Lech from our city
                  rather, the child died of starvation or illness

                  And this is a big difference, killed or died of hunger and illness, due to deportation when the emaciated hungry walked through the desert ...
              3. ayyildiz
                ayyildiz 15 October 2013 20: 01
                -1
                Quote: Gari
                In the photo of the article, the mother cries over the child who was brutally murdered by the Turks and it is interesting that no one paid attention to this - the killed child!


                And why didn’t the Turks kill the mother and the other child?
          2. alone
            alone 15 October 2013 19: 09
            -1
            The group was headed by Lieutenant Colonel Jaan Hovhannisyan, head of the intelligence and sabotage operations department on the territory of the enemy of the State Directorate of National Security (GUNB) of Armenia .-- Speaking of Soso Aroyan, you forgot about Hovhannisyan. You judged him in Russia, this scum acted on the territory of Russia. This is not swill these are facts, these facts are direct. if this is a fairy tale for you, claims against the Russian prosecutor’s office and the court. These creatures were tried in Russia for specific crimes. I repeat the MNS officers do not act without a decree from above. such an absurdity.
            and about Khojaly, it may remind you of the words of your president Sargsyan, who, in an interview with Thomas de Waal, admitted why this was done.
            When Serge Sargsyan was asked to tell about the capture of Khojaly, he cautiously replied: "We prefer not to talk about it out loud." As for the number of victims, he said that “a lot was exaggerated,” and the runaway Azerbaijanis offered armed resistance. However, regarding the events that occurred, Sargsyan spoke more honestly and more harshly:
            “But I think the main question was completely different. Before Khojaly, Azerbaijanis thought that we could make jokes with us, they thought that the Armenians were not able to raise a hand on the civilian population. We managed to break this [stereotype]. Here is what happened. And we must also take into account that among those boys there were people who fled from Baku and Sumgait ”
        2. smprofi
          smprofi 15 October 2013 15: 26
          +5
          alone, well, I wouldn’t really get excited explaining / proving about terrorism.
          but about "thinking" ... how do you like this information:

          On April 25 of this year, in the area of ​​the village of Marzili, Agdam region, a Russian soldier by the name of Bolotnikov was injured by an Azerbaijani sniper, who was training Armenian snipers and sabotage groups. Later it turned out that the Russian officer had been instructing Armenian snipers in Karabakh for a long time, and he himself shot at Azerbaijani soldiers several times. For his activities in Karabakh, he was awarded the Minister of Defense of Armenia Seyran Ohanyan.

          Earlier, in 1992-1994, during the first Karabakh war, a large number of Russian soldiers were involved in the training of the Armenian army and armed groups in Nagorno-Karabakh.

          Well, what do you think: Bolotnikov went on his own initiative or was he seconded?
          For example, in Abkhazia, in the early 90s, there were also many Russian officers, "volunteers" ... whom the unit commander summoned and offered a choice: to write a report "send as a volunteer" or a report on dismissal from the Armed Forces.

          in the glorious "big politics" one thing is officially said, but quite another thing is done.
          1. helg717
            helg717 15 October 2013 16: 21
            +6
            it’s easy to talk about the history that the special services wrote. And whoever cooks whom is also not particularly advertised. I'm not talking about where anyone is fighting:
            "active phase" of the war in Karabakh - Russians on both sides (did not see, they said)
            First war in Abkhazia - Russians and Chechens on the side of the Abkhazians (did not see)
            Yugoslavia - Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians from all sides
            Chechnya - enough Ukrainians (he took)
            South Ossetia - Ukrainians are on the side of Georgia (and why not, if there is an interstate agreement on military, or military-technical cooperation)
            And there is nothing surprising that there are Russian specialists in Armenia, because there are such Russian-Armenian agreements.
            The list can be ENDLESS (and ours in Africa and together with the Americans on one side sometimes fought well)
            1. smprofi
              smprofi 15 October 2013 16: 34
              +1
              Quote: helg717
              First war in Abkhazia - Russians and Chechens on the side of Abkhazians

              After a slight hype about the Russians in Abkhazia arose, one of the eggheads in the General Staff had a "happy idea" to attract Caucasians, the same Chechens. they say you can't tell a local or a "volunteer" by the face. the same Basayev - just from this set.
              Quote: helg717
              Yugoslavia - Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians from all sides

              The worst thing is not even the "volunteers", but the fact that the former Soviet weapons from Russia and Ukraine were supplied illegally to the "national liberation movements" (whose money is a separate conversation). and in fact, when these trunks "started talking" - then the civil war began and the SFRY came to an end.
              Quote: helg717
              The list can be ENDLESS

              that's for sure!
            2. alone
              alone 15 October 2013 19: 36
              +2
              Quote: helg717
              "active phase" of the war in Karabakh - Russians on both sides (did not see, they said)


              only on our side did local Russians fight, citizens of Azerbaijan. dozens of Russians became national heroes of Azerbaijan (posthumously). We still speak of these people with pride, "ours".
          2. alone
            alone 15 October 2013 19: 34
            0
            Quote: smprofi
            Earlier, in 1992-1994, during the first Karabakh war, a large number of Russian soldiers were involved in the training of the Armenian army and armed groups in Nagorno-Karabakh.


            I’m a participant in the war. What you wrote was before my eyes. The mercenaries were on both sides. We had Afghans, and most of them had Russian soldiers who were left out of work after the collapse. For me this is not information, but a story that passed before eyes
            1. Arminian power
              Arminian power 15 October 2013 22: 09
              0
              What botalion and where did they fight ???????????????????????
              1. alone
                alone 15 October 2013 22: 11
                +2
                He fought in all areas, including Nakhichevan. The 123rd Regiment was probably heard.
                1. Arminian power
                  Arminian power 16 October 2013 02: 49
                  -2
                  Riot police or beaten convict ??????????????????
                  1. alone
                    alone 16 October 2013 10: 38
                    +2
                    I’ve never been a prisoner, but I wrote the 123rd regiment,
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 16 October 2013 01: 00
                +3
                Quote: Arminian power
                Which botalion

                probably this is a new military unit in your army .... laughing good
  9. aleks
    aleks 15 October 2013 14: 35
    +7
    Why do we slobber over the question of a handful of Dashnaks-renegades, even now we have reduced their numbers to several hundred according to human rights defenders. The assessment was probably given by Solzhenitsyn from Canada. The Armenians are worthy people who gave the country and the world wonderful personalities-marshals, composers, writers, artists, etc. But the author declared numerous acts of terrorism, etc. during the Soviet era, and he was looping on one fact. for what?
  10. Hairy Siberian
    Hairy Siberian 15 October 2013 17: 43
    +7
    As an Armenian, I am very sorry for this crime.
    If I had the opportunity, I would have given my life to wash away this stain of shame.
  11. ayyildiz
    ayyildiz 15 October 2013 19: 39
    -1
    began in the 1915 year, after the Young Turks came to power.

    In the period before 1923, according to various estimates, from 800 thousand to 1,5 million people died. Even more Armenians fled to other countries, establishing numerous diasporas there.
    The deportation began in Xnumx r correctly! But xnumx r Armenians slaughtered xnumx Muslims in the Ottoman Empire! Before deportation! Armenian Chetniks captured 1915 women, on the way to Akhtamar so that they would not be raped, they all killed themselves in Lake Van! But I did not say anything about the murderer Andranik!

    1.100.000 refugees left the Caucasus and Yerevan Khanate in the direction of Turkey! And did 700.000 get alive who destroyed them on the way?

    925 000 were deported, information from personal documents Talat Pasha

    In general, Ottoman Muslims Armenians slaughtered 527000
    1. Gari
      Gari 15 October 2013 21: 57
      +1
      Let's consider how it started?
      The massacres in 1894-1896, which claimed the lives of many tens, or even hundreds of thousands of Armenians, consisted of three main episodes: the massacre in Sasun, the murders of Armenians throughout the empire in the fall and winter of 1895, and the massacres in Istanbul and Van. The reason for this was the protests of local Armenians.
      At least 3000 people were killed.
      On October 8, Muslims killed and burned alive about a thousand Armenians in Trabzon. This event became a forerunner of a series of massacres of Armenians in Eastern Turkey organized by the Ottoman authorities: Erzincan, Erzurum, Gumyushkhan, Bayburt, Urfa and Bitlis.
      In August 1896, for two days, with the obvious connivance of the authorities, the Turks beat the Armenians to death, killing more than 6000 people.
      The exact number of victims of the 1894-1896 massacre cannot be calculated. Even before the end of the violence, the Lutheran missionary Johannes Lepsius, who was in Turkey at that time, using German and other sources, collected the following statistics: killed - 88 people, ruined - 243 people, looted cities and villages - 546, converted to Islam - 000, desecrated churches and monasteries - 2493, turned into mosques of churches - 456
      In 1907, Adana's conservative Muslims attacked the Armenians, who made up a quarter of the city’s population. Authorities intervened only two days later, when more than 2000 Armenians were already killed.

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Геноцид_армян
      1. alone
        alone 15 October 2013 22: 17
        +3
        since when is wikipedia considered a source? can you write everything there
        1. Gari
          Gari 15 October 2013 22: 20
          0
          Quote: lonely
          since when is wikipedia considered a source? can you write everything there

          and for you when you need wikipedia is no longer a source
          What source are your sites ???
          1. alone
            alone 15 October 2013 22: 38
            -1
            for me, the source is not ours and not your sites. For me, the sources are archival documents, which are historically proven facts.
            1. Gari
              Gari 15 October 2013 22: 46
              0
              Quote: lonely
              archival documents that are historically proven facts.

              My one grandfather comes from Erzrum, the other from Bayburt - why am I not in my Homeland, where are my ancestors from, where have they lived for centuries?
              What other facts
              I can now give multiple testimonies, like Russian sources, military and diplomatic, Western, all of this is and is on the Internet, but why everyone knows that, and I’m not going to prove it to you, and I'm going to sleep.
              1. alone
                alone 15 October 2013 22: 50
                +1
                good night to you. but they still didn’t answer the comments. I wish I had a good night's sleep.
                1. Gari
                  Gari 15 October 2013 22: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: lonely
                  good night to you. but they still didn’t answer the comments. I wish I had a good night's sleep.

                  Sorry, good night, I completely forgot our football is played with Italy, ours scored a goal in the sixth minute, we tear Italy away and free
                  1. smersh70
                    smersh70 16 October 2013 00: 38
                    0
                    Quote: Gari
                    our football is played with Italy, ours scored a goal in the sixth minute, we tear Italy away and free

                    sleep))) the score is already 2-2 .. so the pasta did not break smile
                    1. ayyildiz
                      ayyildiz 16 October 2013 03: 50
                      0
                      Quote: smersh70
                      tear Italy away and free

                      Well, the Italians in football wassat
                2. ayyildiz
                  ayyildiz 16 October 2013 00: 39
                  0
                  Gari

                  Once again we see that the Armenians show themselves as if they had come out of white milk, the angels were direct! Do I still ask you about the dead Muslims, remember? About the burnt Muslims in mosques? And for the transfer of the Armenian to Palestine, the British blinded 15000 thousand Turkish prisoners of war at least they heard! Your avatar was a cleaner of the Muslim people in the Balkans and in the east of Turkey at least once admit it! We never said that there was nothing but the deeds of the Armenians were not small! Why didn’t they touch anyone in Istanbul?
  12. repytw
    repytw 15 October 2013 21: 58
    +2
    Armenians need help to prove that there was genocide, and it was, then the Turks can pay dearly and not with money, but now in this region it is especially important.
    1. Gari
      Gari 15 October 2013 22: 16
      +1
      Armenians need help to prove that genocide was

      Russia. On April 14, 1995, the State Duma adopted a statement condemning the organizers of the Armenian Genocide of 1915-1922 and declaring April 24 to be the Day of Remembrance of the Victims of the Armenian Genocide.

      Cyprus republic parliament officially recognized 1915 Armenian genocide
      Greece. On April 25, 1996, the Greek Parliament decided to recognize April 24 as the Day of Remembrance of the Victims of the Armenian Genocide,


      Canada. the Canadian parliament passed a resolution condemning the Armenian genocide. "
      Italy. 33 Italian cities recognize genocide
      Lebanon On May 12, 2000, the Lebanese parliament recognized and condemned the genocide committed in 1915 against the Armenian people by the Ottoman authorities.
      Australia On March 27, 2009, the South Australian Parliament passed a new resolution condemning the genocide of the Armenian people.
      Belgium. In March 1998, the Belgian Senate adopted a resolution recognizing the fact of the Armenian Genocide in 1915 in Ottoman Turkey and appealed to the government of modern Turkey to recognize it. In Belgium, criminal liability has been introduced for denying the historical fact of the Armenian Genocide (from a fine of 45 thousand euros to 1 year in prison).

      France. On May 29, 1998, the French National Assembly passed a bill recognizing the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire in 1915.

      On January 18, 2001, the French National Assembly unanimously adopted a resolution according to which France recognized the fact of the Armenian Genocide in Ottoman Turkey in 1915-1923.

      On October 12, 2006, the French parliament passed a bill according to which denial of the Armenian Genocide would become a criminal offense, similar to denial of the Holocaust.

      Argentina. On April 16, 1998, the Buenos Aires legislature passed a memorandum in which it expressed solidarity with the Armenian community of Argentina, marking the 81st anniversary of the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire.

      On April 22, 1998, the Senate of Argentina adopted a statement condemning genocide of any kind as a crime against humanity.

      United Kingdom. In 2002, the National Assembly for Wales recognized the fact of the Armenian Genocide.

      Netherlands. The Dutch parliament recognized the Armenian Genocide in 2004.
      Slovakia. In 2004, the Slovak Parliament recognized the Armenian Genocide.
      Germany. In June 2005, the German Bundestag, without preliminary discussion, unanimously adopted the resolution "Day of Remembrance of Armenians on the occasion of the 90th anniversary of the April 24, 1915 massacre - Germany should promote the reconciliation of Turks and Armenians",

      Lithuania. In December 2005, the Lithuanian Seimas adopted a resolution condemning the 1915 Armenian genocide in Ottoman Turkey

      Venezuela. On July 14, 2005, the Venezuelan Parliament adopted a Resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide.

      Poland. In June 2005, the Polish Parliament recognized the Armenian Genocide in Ottoman Turkey at the beginning of the 20th century.

      Chile. In June 2007, the Chilean Senate adopted a unanimous decision calling on the government to support the Armenian people and condemn the genocide committed against them.

      Brazil. In April 2006, the Legislative Assembly of Brazil's largest state, Sao Paulo, adopted a law recognizing April 24 as the "Day of Remembrance for 1,5 million victims of the 1915 Armenian Genocide."

      USA. Out of 50 US states, officially recognized and condemned the Armenian Genocide, and also declared April 24 as 42 Memorial Day of the victims of the Armenian Genocide.
      1. Gari
        Gari 15 October 2013 22: 17
        +1
        The Armenian Genocide was officially recognized by all influential US national organizations, in particular the Jewish ones; Zionist Organization of the USA, Progressive Jewish Union, Union of Judaist Reforms, Anti-Defamation League (ADL), as well as Ukrainian, Greek, Polish, Hungarian, Arab, Bulgarian, Romanian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Filipino and Slovak communities.

        Vatican. John Paul II became the first Pope to recognize and condemn the genocide of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey in 1915.

        The Armenian Genocide is recognized and condemned by many influential international organizations, such as the European Parliament and the World Council of Churches.

        On June 18, 1987, the UN Sub-Commission on Human Rights and the European Parliament decided to recognize the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire of 1915-1917 and to appeal to the Council of Europe to put pressure on Turkey to recognize the genocide.

        June 18, 1987 - The Council of Europe decided that Turkey’s refusal to recognize the 1915 Armenian genocide by the Young Turks government becomes an insurmountable obstacle to Turkey’s accession to the Council of Europe.

        http://ria.ru/spravka/20100305/212370444.html
        [quote = repytw]
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 15 October 2013 22: 21
          0
          Terrorists of the union scale.
          Who started the war against civilians in the city of Moscow. Where did terrorism come from and who fed all these dirty things.
          1. Gari
            Gari 15 October 2013 22: 38
            0
            Quote: Apollon
            Terrorists of the union scale.

            Have you read the article and my comments that it was a provocation
            Or is it so important for you to bite the Armenians more painfully
            But on a branch about the events in Biryulyovo, where your fellow countryman killed an innocent guy, and where from your compatriots they made almost the main enemies of Russia
            What can I say I am I, you are YOU
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 15 October 2013 23: 02
              0
              Quote: Gari
              But on a branch about the events in Biryulyovo, where your fellow countryman killed an innocent guy,


              He’s not my countryman, but the scum that killed Yegor Shcherbakov and will answer in full
              here is a video of the detention.


              Quote: Gari
              and where from your compatriots made almost the main enemies of Russia

              Nobody dares to make my compatriots enemies here. It is not my compatriots who blew up the metro and killed defenseless people in the metro in Moscow. Your terrorists Asala, Hnchak, Dashnaktyutyun killed and blew up the metro.


              An Armenian, a Turkish citizen set himself on fire near the monument to Attaturk in protest against the actions of ASALA and in solidarity with the Turkish people. In an interview, he reports that if necessary, he would do it 10 times. But not once on the occasion of the Armenian Genocide in Turkey. As Garegin Nzhdeh said, the danger of Armenia lies not in the Turks, but in the Turk-like Armenians.


              Kurdish-Armenian terrorists and their end
              1. ayyildiz
                ayyildiz 16 October 2013 01: 10
                +3
                Quote: Apollon
                Kurdish-Armenian terrorists and their end

                More than 50% of Armenian origin like Ocalan!
        2. alone
          alone 15 October 2013 22: 26
          +3
          I did not know that all of the above organizations, parliaments, etc. are engaged in history.
          to prove that historians were supposed to be there. There are archives, and you and the Turks, and we have enough materials. The fact of genocide should be proved by historians with historical facts. The structures you laid out here made a political decision that is not considered a historical fact. the parliament of any country can make any political decision, but this does not mean that all that is said there is a fact. better create a joint commission of historians and let this commission study the archives of Turkey and Armenia, especially the events of those times. and let this commission issue a final verdict.
          for example, the Georgian parliament passed an act recognizing the Circassian genocide. Now, what do you think Russia should pay compensation to all Circassians and recognize genocide?

          On October 12, 2006, the French parliament passed a bill according to which denial of the Armenian Genocide would become a criminal offense, similar to denial of the Holocaust.


          why don’t you indicate that the French constitutional court recognized this law as not meeting the requirements of the French constitution? if you are so objective, you should have pointed it out!
        3. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 16 October 2013 01: 07
          +1
          Quote: Gari
          The Armenian Genocide was officially recognized by all influential US national organizations, in particular the Jewish ones;

          Do you want to believe it or not, but Israel will never recognize!

          I still don’t understand why we should be in the European Union? After 20 years, what would we feed their old people! And when does France recognize the genocide of the Arabs?
      2. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 16 October 2013 01: 02
        +2
        And what next, what did they accept? And you sincerely think that you will receive AGRA DAGS? In the eighties, American historians made a statement that it was not genocide, and that the diaspora did, took and blew up the bomb and shut their mouths on everyone! The Ottoman Empire sued about 1600 people on this case, 65 executed and Armenians put at least one terrorist and killer in prison? On the back made them national heroes!
    2. alone
      alone 15 October 2013 22: 18
      +2
      and I think you yourself have witnessed all this or what?
      1. Gari
        Gari 15 October 2013 22: 23
        0
        Quote: lonely
        and I think you yourself have witnessed all this or what?

        Are you smart or what?
        1. alone
          alone 15 October 2013 22: 36
          +3
          This question does not concern you! but it would be better to answer my comment that is addressed to you
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 16 October 2013 01: 16
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            This question does not concern you! but it would be better to answer my comment that is addressed to you


            They will never answer; only they will blame it in their blood! hi
        2. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 16 October 2013 01: 14
          +2
          Quote: Gari
          Are you smart or what?

          I wrote about 50 women above. Have you heard about them before?
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 15 October 2013 22: 24
        +1
        The genocide of the Mountain Jews by ........... You will learn by watching this film.
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 15 October 2013 22: 28
          +3
          No comment, terrorist attack over the past 50 years.

          1. Apollo
            Apollo 15 October 2013 22: 30
            +1
            Armenian terrorism in action history repeats itself.

        2. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 16 October 2013 01: 19
          +1
          [quote = Apollon] The genocide of the Mountain Jews by ........... You will learn by watching this film.
          From 1.100.000 Caucasian and Yerevan Muslims, only 700.000 lied to the Ottoman Empire, who guessed they killed them on the way!
    3. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 16 October 2013 00: 51
      0
      Quote: repytw
      Armenians need help to prove that there was genocide, and it was, then the Turks can pay dearly and not with money, but now in this region it is especially important.

      The fact is that even the Russian archives say the opposite! And from whom century we begin what is considered

      "genocide"? 527000 thousand Muslims killed by the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, what are we going to do with them? And if the Armenians have exact numbers, how many we killed them. Proofs of where? And then it turns out he was different like that, but where is the evidence? Why don't Armenians open their archives, archives in Boston? What to be afraid of?
  13. Ols76
    Ols76 16 October 2013 03: 42
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    Quote: Lech from our city
    ... so that the Turks set their brains in one place again.



    I think it’s not right to wish evil to an entire nation because of a bunch of some idiots. Armenians as a whole are worthy people who gave the USSR many wonderful personalities, so ordinary people should not suffer from this.
  14. combatpilot
    combatpilot 18 October 2013 00: 54
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    an unprecedented level of growth in domestic nationalism. The registry offices refused to register children with non-Armenian names, couples began to get married in churches, musical groups began to perform forgotten Armenian medieval music, mainly church music.


    I read it 2 times to make sure that the author is not joking. No, not joking.