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Japan's Naval Self-Defense Forces (JMSDF) are second in importance fleet in the Asia-Pacific region.

A thoroughly thought-out combat system, where the latest technology is closely intertwined with the ancient samurai traditions. The Japanese fleet has long lost the status of a “funny” formation that exists only for the pleasure of gaze of the Japanese themselves and the performance of minor support tasks within the framework of the multinational system of the US Navy. Despite its pronounced defensive nature, modern Japanese sailors are able to independently conduct military operations and protect the interests of the Nihon Koku in the vast Pacific.

The leading force of the Japanese Self-Defense Forces is traditionally squadron destroyers. The bet on destroyers is easy to explain: this class of ships successfully combines versatility and moderate cost. To date, the Japanese fleet includes 44 ships of this class, built at different times on 10 various projects.

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SM-3 anti-aircraft missile launch from Congo Aegis destroyer, 2007 year

Despite the seeming inconsistency and lack of standardization, which should complicate maintenance and increase the operating costs of such a disparate squadron, the naval forces of the Japanese Navy are clearly divided into three large groups according to their purpose:

- Aegis destroyers to provide zonal air defense / missile defense;

- helicopter destroyers - a specific attribute of the Japanese fleet, for the most part perform the tasks of search and rescue and anti-submarine ships;

- "ordinary" destroyers, whose task is to ensure the safety of the squadron against sea and underwater threats. Also serve as platforms for the deployment of object air defense.

The imaginary variety of structures actually turns out to be a combination of several similar projects with modified superstructures and an updated composition of weapons. Naval forces of self-defense are rapidly evolving - annually in Japan funds are allocated for the construction of 1-2 new destroyers. This allows you to quickly make changes to ship designs in accordance with changing external conditions and gaining access to new technologies. The main feature - the Japanese manage to translate these ideas not only on paper, but in metal.


Elderly JDS Khatakaze (DDG-171) at international drills in 2011 year


If we remove from consideration deliberately outdated ships built in 1980-ies and are preparing to be written off in the near future, the composition of the surface component of the Marine Self-Defense Forces will look like this: 10 modern destroyers of the Congo, Atago, Akizuki and "Hyuga" taken into combat by JMSDF in the period from 1993 to 2013 year.

In addition, the fleet also includes 14 universal destroyers of the Murasame and Takan types, adopted by the fleet in the period 1996 - 2006. These ships are cheaper versions of Aegis destroyers - "transitional" projects for running new technologies, which were later implemented on the "Akizuki".


Ajgoes destroyer "Atago" and a universal destroyer of the type "Murasame"

Today I would like to talk about the evolution of Japanese destroyers. The topic is not easy, but familiarity with it gives many reasons for disputes. Are the Japanese doing the right thing, betting on destroyers of the destroyers?

IJIS-ESSENTIALS. Fleet core


Congo type
A series of four ships was built in the period 1990-1998.


The total displacement is 9580 tons. 300 crew
Gas turbine power plant (4 licensed GTE LM2500) horsepower 100 000
Full speed 30 knots.
4500 sailing range at economic speed 20 knots.
Armament:
- 90 vertical launch installations Mk.41 (SM-2, SM-3 anti-aircraft missiles, ASROC VLS PLUR);
- 127 mm universal gun with a barrel length 54 caliber;
- 8 anti-ship harpoon missiles;
- 2 anti-aircraft machine "Phalanx";
- small anti-submarine torpedoes, aft landing pad for a helicopter.



JDS Congo (DDG-173)

The massive “tower” of the superstructure, whose walls are decorated with AN / SPY-1 radar grilles, underdeck UVN on 29 (nasal) and 61 (aft group) cells, characteristic chimneys, white Falanx caps, a close helipad on the stern ... Yes the same American “Orly Burk” of the first sub-series (Flight I) with all its advantages and disadvantages!

It is known how difficult the decision was to transfer technology Aegis to Japan - the negotiations lasted four years, and finally, in 1988, the Congress approved the decision - Japan was the first of the US allies to have access to secret technology. The construction of the first ship began two years later - in March 1990 g. The destroyer Orly Burk was taken as a basis; nevertheless, the Japanese version differs markedly from the prototype, both in the internal layout and in appearance. All four ships were named in honor of the famous cruisers of the Imperial fleet that participated in the Second World War.

At first glance, a bulky nasal superstructure and a vertical mast stand out. Compared with the original "Burke", the layout of the superstructures and the placement of weapons were changed, instead of the American gun Mk.45, the 127 mm gun of the Italian company OTO Breda was installed.

Unlike dozens of American "ordinary" fighters like "Berk", the Japanese decided to saturate four of their most modern destroyers with a variety of equipment, turning them into multifunctional warships.

At the moment, the ships have been re-equipping the SAM-Standard SM-3 to destroy targets in the upper atmosphere and in low-Earth orbit. Destroyers of the Congo type included the composition of the “anti-missile shield” of Japan - their key task is to reflect possible ballistic missile strikes from North Korea.

Atago type
A series of two ships was built in the period 2004-2008.


They are a further development of Aegis destroyers of the Congo type. The destroyer Burke of the IIA sub-series (Flight IIA) was chosen as the prototype of the Atago - along with the additional equipment saturation, the full displacement of the Atago exceeded 10 000 tons!


In the foreground JDS "Ashigara" (DDG-178)


Compared with the Congo, the new destroyer received a helicopter hangar, the height of the superstructure increased - a two-level flagship command post was located inside. BIUS "Aegis" has been upgraded to Baseline 7 (phase 1). UVP were upgraded - the refusal of the boot devices allowed to increase the number of starting cells to 96 pieces. Instead of an Italian cannon installed licensed American Mk.45 with a barrel length 62 caliber. RCC "Harpoon" replaced by anti-ship missiles "Type 90" (SSM-1B) of its own design.

The only thing the Japanese are sadly sorry about is the absence of Tomahawk tactical cruise missiles on board the Atago. Alas ... the Japanese fleet is forbidden to have strike weapons.

“NORMAL” ESSENTIALS


Type "Murasame" (jap. "Heavy rain")
A series of 9 units was built during the period 1993 - 2002.


The total displacement is 6100 tons. 165 crew
Gas turbine power plant (a combination of licensed GTE LM2500 and Rolls Royce Spey SM1C) power 60 000 HP
Full speed 30 knots.
4500 sailing range at economic speed 18 knots.
Armament:
- 16 vertical launch installations Mk.48 (32 anti-aircraft missiles ESSM);
- 16 vertical launch systems Mk.41 (16 ASROC-VL anti-submarine rocket-torpedoes)
- 8 90 Type anti-ship missiles (SSM-1B);
- 76 mm universal gun OTO Melara;
- 2 anti-aircraft machine "Phalanx";
- small anti-submarine torpedoes;
- anti-submarine helicopter "Mitsubishi" SH-60J / K (licensed version of the "Sikorsky" SH-60 SiHouk).



Destroyers type "Murasame" with a visit to Pearl Harbor

“Hope for the States, but don’t make it yourself” - probably, this is how the JMSDF management argued at the beginning of the 1990-s when it decided to design and build destroyers of the Murasame type. These ships were supposed to be the development of their own projects of destroyers with "interspersed" technologies of foreign "Orly Burke". A cheaper version of the universal destroyer, whose main tasks include anti-submarine defense and the fight against enemy surface ships.

Externally, the "Murasame" was not like any of the ships that were previously built in Japan. Superstructures with elements of technology "stealth" unrecognizably changed the look of the new destroyer.

The world's first OPS-24 active phased array radar, installed on a platform in front of the mast (Japanese proprietary design). Below deck launchers Mk.41 and Mk.48. Electronic countermeasures system NOLQ-3 (licensed version of the American AN / SLQ-32) ... but the main feature of Murasame was hidden inside - the destroyer was equipped with a new generation combat information and control system of the C4I type (command, control, computer, communication & intelligence) based on the American Aegis subsystems.


JS "Akebono" (DD108), type "Murasame"

Initially, the Murasame project provided for the construction of 14 destroyer destroyers, but during the construction process it turned out that the design of the destroyer has opportunities for further development. As a result, the 5 last destroyers of the series were completed under the Tacan project.

Type "Takans" (Jap. "High wave")
A series of 5 units was built during the period 2000 - 2006.



JS "Onami" (DD-111), type "Takanami"


The new destroyer received improved communications and fire control systems. The composition of armaments was updated: instead of two separate UVPs - Mk.41 and Mk.48 - in the bow of the Takans they installed a single module on the 32 cell (ASROC-VL rocket-torpedoes, anti-aircraft ESSM). The artillery unit was replaced by a more powerful Italian OTO Breda caliber 127 mm.

The rest of the original design has not changed.

Type "Akizuki" (Jap. "Autumn Moon")
A series of 2 units was built during the period 2009 - 2013. Two more destroyers of this type are planned to be commissioned in 2014 year.


The total displacement is 6800 tons. 200 crew
Type of power plant - 4 licensed GTD "Rolls-Royce" Spey SM1C
Full speed 30 knots.
Navigation range: 4500 miles at economic speeds of 18 knots.
Armament:
- 32 installations of vertical launch Mk.41 (ESSM anti-aircraft missiles - on 4 in each cell, ASURC-VL PLUR);
- 8 90 Type anti-ship missiles (SSM-1B);
- 127 mm universal gun Mk.45 mod.4;
- 2 anti-aircraft machine "Phalanx";
- small anti-submarine torpedoes;
- anti-submarine helicopter "Mitsubishi" SH-60J / K.


"Autumn Moon" - the heir to the legendary Japanese air defense destroyers during the Second World War.

The current "Akizuki" is in many ways a brilliant design that has become a transformer of American ideas in the manner of the country of the Rising Sun. The main element around which the destroyer is built is the ATECS combat information management system, known among specialists as the “Japanese Aegis”. The promising Japanese BIUS is half assembled (well, who would doubt!) From American nodes - working computer stations AN / UYQ-70, standard “NATO” link 16 network of cheating data, satellite communication terminals SATCOM, hydroacoustic complex OQQ-22, which is a copy of the American ship GAK AN / SQQ-89 ...

But there is a serious difference - the FCS-3A detection system (developed by Mitsubishi / Thales Netherlands), consisting of two radars with active PAR, operating in the C frequency ranges (7,5 to 3,75 cm wavelength) and X (3,75 to 2,5 wavelength cm).


JS Akizuki (DD-115)

The FCS-3A system endows Akizuki with absolutely fantastic talents: in terms of capabilities to repel massive air attacks and detect low-flying anti-ship missiles, the Japanese destroyer is superior to the American Orly Burke.

Unlike the decimeter AN / SPY-1, Japanese centimeter-range radars clearly see targets at extremely low altitudes, near the surface of the water. In addition, an active phased array provides dozens of guidance channels in any direction - the destroyer can simultaneously direct missiles at many air targets (for comparison, the American Burke has only three AN / SPG-62 radars for target illumination, including the front hemisphere accounted for only one).

To be fair, it should be noted that in terms of interception of targets at large distances, the capabilities of Burke and Akizuki are incomparable - the powerful AN / SPY-1 is able to control the situation even in low near-earth orbits.

We must pay tribute to the Japanese - "Akizuki" is really cool. This impregnable fort capable of smashing targets on water, under water and in the air. Moreover, the newest radio-electronic systems and weapons successfully housed in a hull that is structurally similar to the destroyers Murasame and Takanami. As a result, the cost of building the head super-ship was “only” 893 million. This is really very little for a ship with such capabilities - for comparison, modern modifications of the American Berkov are sold at the price of 1,8 billion dollars!

Within the framework of the concept of using JMSDF, destroyers of the "Akizuki" type are intended for joint operations with Aegis destroyers - they must cover their older "colleagues" from attacks from under water and provide air defense at close and medium distances.

HELMETS


Type "Hyuga"
A series of 2 units was built during the period 2006 - 2011.


Full displacement 19 000 tons. 360 crew
Gas turbine power plant (4 licensed GTE LM2500) horsepower 100 000
Full speed 30 knots.
Built-in weapons:
- 16 vertical launch installations Mk.41 (ESSM anti-aircraft missiles, ASROC-VL PLUR);
- 2 anti-aircraft machine "Phalanx";
- small anti-submarine torpedoes caliber 324 mm;
Aviation armament:
- X-NUMX helicopters SH-11J / K and AugustaWestland MCH-60 (standard air group);
- solid flight deck, 4 positions where take-off and landing operations can be carried out at the same time, under-deck hangar, 2 lift for aircraft equipment.




Many lovers of the naval theme stubbornly accept these strange destroyers, overgrown for light aircraft carriers. A lot of “serious” calculations have already been done - how many F-35 fighters can fit on the Huygh deck, how to set the springboard ... no one pays attention that Japan does not plan to acquire F-35B VTOLs (even the ground supply of F-42A is large question).

"Hyuga" - just a major helicopter destroyer, the successor of the traditional class of ships JMSDF. It is not similar to any of the existing aircraft carriers, just as it is not similar to the UDC "Mistral" - despite the similar size and helicopter air group, the "Hyuga" does not have a dock camera and is not a universal landing ship.

Instead, it has 30-nodal speed and built-in complex weapons (medium-range anti-aircraft missiles, anti-submarine missile torpedoes, self-defense systems) - all this is under the control of the ATECS control system and the remarkable FCS-3 radar, similar to those installed on the Akizuki. And also the whining sonar OQQ-21, the developed EW systems - everything is like on a real destroyer destroyer.



But the most remarkable feature of the "Hyugi" is a solid flight deck and an excessively numerous for the destroyer air group - 11 multipurpose and anti-submarine helicopters (their number may well exceed the stated figure, because 16 machines fit the size of the Mistral).

What is the meaning of building such monsters?

The Japanese see the use of helicopter destroyers as effective anti-submarine ships. Search and rescue functions, work in emergency areas, sea patrol missions. Surely there is a possibility of disembarking point helicopter landings from the "Hyugi"; participation in international military operations as an auxiliary ship is possible.

The solid flight deck allows you to receive not only the "Sikhoki", but, in the future, large helicopters and convertible planes.

In general, according to the logic of the Japanese command, the possession of a pair of such ships can noticeably increase the potential of the fleet and diversify the number of tasks performed. Finally, the appearance of a hefty helicopter carrier destroyer will not leave indifferent any of the visitors of the naval salon, the Hyuga and its sister thorn Ise enhance the prestige of sailors not only in the eyes of the whole nation, but also abroad.



Epilogue

Predicting the questions ahead: What does all this mean for the Russian Pacific Fleet? Who is stronger - ours or the Japs? I can only note the following: it makes no sense to compare the Pacific Fleet and the JMSDF head-on - too different fleets created for different tasks.

Nevertheless, JMSDF looks more profitable for one simple reason - Japan’s naval self-defense forces exist within the framework of a clear concept of countering direct military threats from North Korea and protecting their interests in the East China Sea from claims from the PRC. As for our Pacific Fleet, probably, none of those present will be able to clearly formulate the answer to the question: what specific tasks does our Pacific Fleet solve and what ships are necessary for it to do.
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  1. svskor80
    svskor80 16 October 2013 09: 24
    +5
    Pacific Fleet is an instrument of Russia's influence in the Asia-Pacific region. The weaker it is, the weaker the influence. And the Japanese behave themselves more and more impudently every year. Someday have to put in place.
    1. Walker1975
      Walker1975 16 October 2013 15: 40
      +1
      In the Tsushima Strait once set
      1. kagorta
        kagorta 16 October 2013 20: 50
        +1
        Do not gloat, then a lot where yapi got on the hill. laughing
        1. EdwardTich68
          EdwardTich68 21 October 2013 09: 42
          0
          http://lurkmore.to/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Japanese_war.jpg wassat
  2. xetai9977
    xetai9977 16 October 2013 09: 27
    18
    The Japanese fleet is not "funny" at all, but very efficient. Underestimating others has never been good.
    1. Santa Fe
      16 October 2013 12: 35
      +2
      Quote: xetai9977
      The Japanese fleet is not "funny" at all, but very efficient.

      I will die for the great Nippon!
      I leave my wife only debts
      Yes, three tamagotchi - small, small, less

      Ruthless depths of the ocean
      But the creatures gliding in her
      Good for Zhiguli beer

      Like a ray, a samurai blade!
      And he got dull
      Damned sprat in tomato
      1. Leisure
        Leisure 16 October 2013 14: 23
        +1
        Good poems however.
        1. Santa Fe
          16 October 2013 14: 32
          +3
          The neighbor again hinted
          That her old husband is no longer fit
          Neither in borsch, nor in the Kwantung army

          Waking bird trills in the morning
          Neither found a samurai sword or armor
          Okay, even though the eggs are in place
          1. 528Obrp
            528Obrp 16 October 2013 15: 10
            +1
            Hokku however
          2. albert
            albert 16 October 2013 21: 39
            0
            On the steps of a Buddhist temple
            The naked geisha is lying.
            The monk passed and he could not restrain himself.
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 21 October 2013 03: 59
      0
      Swara with China will show
  3. 3935333
    3935333 16 October 2013 09: 39
    +1
    the Japanese fleet is the lever of the United States in APEC quiet and invisible, but very, very biting!
  4. Ddhal
    Ddhal 16 October 2013 10: 03
    +6
    As for our Pacific Fleet, probably none of those present can clearly articulate the answer to the question: what specific tasks does our Pacific Fleet solve and what ships does it need for this.

    1) To save the Chinese who survived the sea battles with the Japanese
    2) Prevent the conflict from entering our territorial waters
    3) Show that the Northern Sea Route is a toll road
    1. Walker1975
      Walker1975 16 October 2013 15: 42
      +1
      And how many ships and what class do you need to solve these problems?
  5. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 16 October 2013 10: 04
    +8
    A good overview article on Japanese destroyers. Now compare with our Pacific Fleet and feel the difference. In 1904, under Chemulpo, the "Varyag" had more chances than now our TOP against the Japanese Navy. But they have the US Pacific Fleet as their allies.
    1. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 16 October 2013 13: 38
      -3
      Do not bend the stick))) And the fact that the fleet needs new ships and more, I do not argue, another question is how much it costs and how much it is being built, the pace of construction of new ships cannot but rejoice, and the trend allows us to be cautious optimism
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 October 2013 10: 24
    +2
    Underestimate the enemy - you lose.
    And the Yapenians do not even have a "funny" fleet, to our great regret.
  7. pahom54
    pahom54 16 October 2013 10: 38
    +3
    Extra clear evidence of the need to strengthen and develop the Pacific Fleet ... Too convincing evidence ...
  8. moremansf
    moremansf 16 October 2013 11: 10
    +3
    We are pushing the priority in the East Asian region ... it is enough to remember Tsushima, what it turned out to be for Russia ... therefore, the build-up of the naval grouping by Japan should not be underestimated ... The Pacific Fleet is still in a deplorable state, one Mistral-Vladivostok will not change the situation ... and our doctrine is defensive in the coastal zone, hence the plans for the shipbuilding program ... the Pacific Fleet's basing system and all the relevant infrastructure requires serious attention, who has been there will understand what this is about ... TARKR "Frunze-Admiral Lazarev", BRZK "Ural", TAVKRs "Minsk" and "Novorossiysk" on this did not serve the due date ... (in the photo TATRK "Admiral Lazarev")
    1. Walker1975
      Walker1975 16 October 2013 15: 47
      +3
      And Japan’s GDP is greater than Russian, and corruption is less ... again ... I think that the USA will also lend if necessary. So, I believe that the Japanese, on occasion, can strengthen their fleet.
  9. kirpich
    kirpich 16 October 2013 11: 18
    0
    So you read the article and, as much as it takes a horror. Where to our Pacific Fleet against Japan Then you crawl onto the site http://www.russian-ships.info/today/ and understand, it’s not so bad in the vastness of the Pacific Ocean. There is something to oppose the aggressor (?).

    P.S. I stopped believing in Japanese technology after Fukushima
    1. Santa Fe
      16 October 2013 12: 43
      0
      Quote: kirpich
      P.S. I stopped believing in Japanese technology after Fukushima

      According to this logic, it is necessary to stop believing the Sukhoi Design Bureau and the Izhmash enterprise, which produces AK


      The destroyed fourth Chernobyl power unit

      Three Mile Island accident, USA
      occurred on March 28, 1979
  10. kirpich
    kirpich 16 October 2013 12: 39
    -1
    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    Quote: xetai9977
    The Japanese fleet is not "funny" at all, but very efficient.

    I will die for the great Nippon!
    I leave my wife only debts
    Yes, three tamagotchi - small, small, less

    Ruthless depths of the ocean
    But the creatures gliding in her
    Good for Zhiguli beer

    Like a ray, a samurai blade!
    And he got dull
    Damned sprat in tomato




    There is no letter L in Japanese alphabet!
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 21 October 2013 04: 02
      0
      And this is an adapted translation
  11. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 16 October 2013 12: 49
    +5
    Quote: kirpich
    So you read the article and, as much as it takes a horror. Where to our Pacific Fleet against Japan Then you crawl onto the site http://www.russian-ships.info/today/ and understand, it’s not so bad in the vastness of the Pacific Ocean. There is something to oppose the aggressor (?).

    P.S. I stopped believing in Japanese technology after Fukushima

    Yes, we have nothing to oppose the Japanese at the Pacific Fleet !!! THERE IS NOTHING!!! Of the five Project 949 Anteyevs, one is on the move, the rest are undergoing sluggish repairs (for example, Irkutsk has been under repair since 2008, but the most recent one, Tomsk, was burned). Of the 6 nuclear submarines of project 971, 1 or 2 are on the move. Of the eight diesel project 877, 4-5 are on the move. From attack ships on the move "Varyag" and the destroyer "Burny". There are 11 more missile boats of Project 1241. So what can we oppose. This year, after many years, the Pacific Fleet will include as many as three combat boats - 1 landing type "Dugong" and two anti-sabotage type "Grachenok". As well as 6 tugs and 1 large hydrographic boat. And what does the website http://www.russian-ships.info/today/ write? You shouldn't believe everything.
  12. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 16 October 2013 12: 50
    +1
    To quote Wikipedia:
    The critical situation also develops with the underwater component of the Pacific Fleet. Project 667BDR SSBNs have practically developed their full life cycle (the "youngest" boat of this class "Ryazan" was put into operation in 1982), and need to be replaced. Over the past 15 years, only one multipurpose nuclear submarine of project 971 Schuka-B (K-152 Nerpa) was built in the Pacific Ocean, which was leased to India for a long time.
    The basis of the fighting forces of the fleet at present is:
    Project 1164 Missile Cruiser Atlant Varyag;
    4 large anti-submarine ships of Project 1155 Frigate - Marshal Shaposhnikov, Admiral Vinogradov, Admiral Panteleev, Admiral Tributs;
    1 destroyer URO project 956 "Sarych" - "Fast";
    3 large landing ships of project 775 and one of project 1171.
    2 RPKSN of project 667BDR Kalmar - Podolsk and St. George the Victorious.
    2 nuclear submarines with cruise missiles (SSGN) project 949A - K-186 "Omsk" and K-456 "Tver"
    1 nuclear-powered multipurpose submarine (ICAPL) of project 971 - Samara
    5 diesel-electric torpedo submarines (DEPL) of project 877
    1. Santa Fe
      16 October 2013 13: 02
      +1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      The basis of the fighting forces of the fleet at present is:
      Project 1164 Missile Cruiser Atlant Varyag;
      4 large anti-submarine ships of Project 1155 Frigate - Marshal Shaposhnikov, Admiral Vinogradov, Admiral Panteleev, Admiral Tributs;
  13. Santa Fe
    16 October 2013 12: 59
    +3
    "Autumn Moon" - the heir to the legendary Japanese air defense destroyers during the Second World War.

    The most sophisticated destroyers of the Imperial Navy, specialized air defense ships of the "Akizuki" type
    3700 tons full w / o
    Artillery weapons - 8 x 100 mm wagons, up to fifty anti-aircraft barrels of 25 mm caliber
    Mine-torpedo warhead - 8 x 610 mm "Long Lance"
    Cruising range - 8000 miles at 18 knots. - this is 2 times more than modern domestic and foreign destroyers and frigates, the Pacific Ocean is slanting

    A total of 12 units were built, 7 died in battle
    One disarmed destroyer received by the USSR for reparations (in the USSR Navy - the training ship / destroyer "Vsezapny") served until the 1960s.
  14. gallville
    gallville 16 October 2013 14: 36
    +3
    For hat caps, data from Wikipedia:
    Pacific Fleet and Navy of Japan.
    Cruiser:
    Russia - 2 (one sucks)
    Japan is about
    Helicopter carriers:
    Russia - about (in plans 2)
    Japan - 2 available for the use of aircraft with vertical take-off - AV-8B Harrier II and F-35 Lightning II.
    BDK:
    Russia - 4
    Japan - 0 (it is not known more likely zero)
    DKA (landing craft)
    Russia - 4
    Japan - 0

    Destroyers / BOD:
    Russia - 5 (3 more for conservation and repair)
    Japan - 39 (of which 2 destroyers of the helicopter carrier 8 URO) + 2 training
    Frigates - displacement from 2 thousand
    Japan - 6 pcs.
    Warships displacement up to 2 thousand tons.
    Russia - 24 (MRC and others).

    Submarines:
    Pacific Fleet - 22 different classes, including strategic (of which 12 are under repair, etc.) total 10;
    Japan - 16 + 2 training.
  15. alone
    alone 16 October 2013 20: 08
    +2
    The Japanese fleet is very strong in the region. It is an adversary that needs attention.
  16. voliador
    voliador 16 October 2013 20: 30
    +1
    We are losing the composition of surface ships unambiguously. While the bureaucrats will calmly cut the loot there will be not only the fleet, but also the normal army in general.
  17. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 16 October 2013 21: 18
    0
    And why on the ship with a displacement of 10 300 people are needed already, if on ships 6-7 etc. 160-200 is enough, and for helicopter carriers in 19, i.e. serve 360. Do they carry marines, or what?
  18. kafa
    kafa 16 October 2013 22: 26
    +1
    Quote: ivanovbg
    And why on the ship with a displacement of 10 300 people are needed already, if on ships 6-7 etc. 160-200 is enough, and for helicopter carriers in 19, i.e. serve 360. Do they carry marines, or what?

    shto you, shto you tourists lol
  19. kirpich
    kirpich 17 October 2013 00: 26
    -1
    Quote: VohaAhov
    And what does the site http://www.russian-ships.info/today/ write? Do not believe everything.


    A DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN BELIEVE? Who you are???
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  21. CARBON
    CARBON 17 October 2013 01: 51
    +1
    The ships are beautiful. Here is the naming system, little has changed. Large ships again with a displacement of about 10000 tons and more bear the names of the old imperial battle and linear cruisers of the 2nd world, smaller destroyers.
    I am a little alarmed by the fact that such formidable names as "Akagi", "Kaga", "Zuikaku", "Sekaku", not to mention "Yamato" are in store for the future.
    My favorite aircraft carrier.
  22. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 17 October 2013 04: 30
    +2
    Quote: kirpich
    Quote: VohaAhov
    And what does the site http://www.russian-ships.info/today/ write? Do not believe everything.


    A DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN BELIEVE? Who you are???

    In addition to russian-ships.info there are a lot of sources of information. Comparing and analyzing them, you come to certain conclusions that I set forth. My conclusions are not dogma, I could be wrong, but the facts speak for themselves. Our Pacific Fleet in its theater is weaker than the American, Japanese, Chinese, South Korean, and, probably, Indian as well. And who am I? I am an officer of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
  23. kirpich
    kirpich 17 October 2013 15: 05
    -1
    As I understand it, quoting Wikipedia and comparing it with russian-ships.info, you came to the conclusion that our Pacific Fleet is the weaker of all? Mmm-yeah. Have you actually been to Vladivostok? In Ulysses? In the Big Stone? In Light? In Russian? Or maybe you went along the coastal region to the Bering Strait?
    Can you tell me which series of DPLs are being preserved in Vladivostok?
    Answer the officer of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Or do you only know how to minus?
    1. Santa Fe
      17 October 2013 19: 42
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      Quote: kirpich
      Can you tell me which series of DPLs are being preserved in Vladivostok?

      Do you think the Japanese have few non-nuclear submarines?
      Including the most modern ones, capable of staying under water for weeks - the "litter" type
  24. Anton19
    Anton19 19 October 2013 19: 29
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    and the Kuril Islands will be Japanese if ...
  25. Stasi
    Stasi 27 October 2013 19: 17
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    In terms of quality, the Japanese fleet has advantages over our fleet, no matter how unpleasant it is to admit. And the new ships of the Japanese are in operation faster than ours. While the Japanese are paying all the attention to the Chinese, their territorial claims and their fleet. We make the most of all these circumstances and upgrade our ships, trying to put into operation new ones, strengthening the defense of the Kuril, Sakhalin and Kamchatka. Also, one should not forget about strengthening our ground army in the Far East. It is hoped that the plans for the development of the Far East will be fully implemented, and will not remain only on paper.
  26. i.xxx-1971
    i.xxx-1971 1 November 2013 16: 24
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    Japanese ships can be heated by coastal missile systems.