Semi-automatic rifle Beretta ARX100

Beretta in Houston, Texas at the 142nd National Rifle Association meeting unveiled the third-generation Beretta ARX100 rifle to the general public. This rifle is based on assault rifles and is intended for the United States market. The civilian population can freely purchase the Beretta ARX100 starting in August 2013. The Beretta ARX100 is a gas-piston semi-automatic rifle that is the civilian version of the Beretta ARX160 assault rifle.

In 2008, the Beretta company (Gardone Val Trompia, Italy), which is one of the oldest, largest and most famous among manufacturers weapons, a revolutionary new assault rifle platform was released, called the ARX-160. The basis of the rifle is a completely body made of polymeric materials, and automation, which is built on the removal of powder gases from the bore. The stroke of the gas piston is short. The ARX-160 assault rifle is quite reliable and modular. Thanks to its qualities, the rifle was almost immediately adopted by the Italian armed forces to replace the 70/90 rifles and carbines. This rifle has received worldwide recognition - several countries have purchased ARX-160 assault rifles for special forces and military units. In the United States, several law enforcement agencies have acquired this rifle. In addition, the ARX-160 rifle was offered for the US Army's Individual Carbine program.

On the basis of this system, two short-barrel modifications were developed. destinations (ARX-160 PDW and ARX-160 SF), as well as the transition to the 7,62x39 mm caliber. In 2012, for the first time, a civilian sports modification was demonstrated, which has a chamber for a small-caliber unitary cartridge of 5,6 mm caliber. This modification was designed to meet the expectations of sports shooters who have long wanted to get a "full-caliber" civilian version of the rifle.

At the 142nd meeting of the National Rifle Association, Beretta finally granted this request. Beretta USA's North American subsidiary, headquartered in Accokik, Md., began shipping the ARX-100 rifle, which is a semi-automatic civilian version of the ARX-160 rifle, in August. The ARX-100 semi-automatic rifle has many changes focused on sporting use, but at the same time it retains many of the main features of the original.

Rifle Beretta ARX100 equipped with everything you need and gives the user a system that is convenient in all respects. ARX-100 will use piston automatic rifle ARX-160, but modified in such a way as to exclude the possibility of switching to continuous fire mode, as well as the alteration back to a combat rifle. In addition, it will be incompatible with the specialized elements of ARX-160, allowing to fire in automatic mode.

The design of the rifle includes the upper and lower parts of the receiver made of polymer, the handguard and the top bar. The pad has a bar for installing three accessories. The monolithic MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail mount makes it possible to mount various optical and sighting equipment. The folding telescopic buttstock, which is a standard element of the rifle, allows you to conveniently transport the weapon. The “reinforced” type stock is designed in such a way that it can be used as an emergency tool.

The ARX100 barrel quick change system has been implemented. The barrel can be chambered for: .300 Blackout or .223/5.56. To replace the barrel, press a pair of protrusions located on each side of the forend, remove the barrel. Installing another barrel is done by inserting and pressing until it clicks. 16" or 20" barrels are available to the general public.

The mass of the rifle is relatively small and allows the shooter to fire equally comfortably with both hands. The magazine release and safety are located on both sides of the ARX100. The cocking handle at the request of the shooter can be installed on the right or left side of the weapon.

According to experts, the Beretta ARX100 rifle is a light, comfortable and versatile platform that sets new standards for civilian rifles.

In the United States, the Beretta ARX100 semi-automatic rifle is currently available for $1950. European shooters will not be able to purchase the ARX100 until early 2014.

Based on materials:
http://www.guns.yfa1.ru
http://zbroya.info
http://www.all4shooters.com

Comments

[AVV]

Kalashnikov's competitors are on the alert! Our engineers also need to do something innovative, otherwise you can fall behind !!!

[Pimply]

Let's be more precise - already lagged behind.

[Hon]

Are you so far behind? The AK has been in service for such a long time, because of its reliability, it was initially inferior to the M16 in terms of accuracy and convenience, but its superiority was recognized by everyone. If you have to fight for a long time in conditions when normal cleaning of the machine gun is impossible, it is better to have the AK and not its more accurate and convenient competitors.

[Blot]

So Zhiguli have been produced for a long time ... however, like everything else with us! AK is hopelessly outdated along with its "creator" !!!

[Hon]

AKs are not Zhiguli, weapons do not develop like cars. By the way, cars are now much worse than they were 20-30 years ago. Audi 80 or Mercedes Eshka of the late 80s are much more reliable than modern products from the same manufacturers. Now it is calculated that the car will last a maximum of 10 years, before being sent to the scrap, in old models it was laid down for 20 years. At the same time, it cannot be said that cars have become better in terms of handling, dynamics, comfort, safety, but a large number of electronic gadgets have appeared, and cars now resemble a smartphone.

[mirag2]

Not so far behind - AEK is a very good device.

[Cruorvult]

What can be innovative in a machine gun, it’s just that people can do it qualitatively, on modern equipment, and the AK-12 was not even allowed for state tests :-D

[GSH-18]

Quote: CruorVult

and AK-12 was not even allowed for state tests :-D

Already allowed (I wonder with the help of whom or what?). But the AK-12 is essentially the same AK (original). All its minuses (for all its pluses) were as they were. There are no changes (innovative) in the system. The corporation offers to buy from it what is already filled up with army warehouses, just slightly changing the appearance and sticking "-12" to the old name. In general, in their opinion, the Kalashnikov system is the final result of engineering thought that does not require improvement. It's a pity.

[Massik]

Did you take it apart and shoot it, or are you quoting an "authoritative" expert opinion?

[Blot]

GSH-18
........................
I subscribe to your every word! Exactly!

[Xroft]

AK is the crowning achievement of firearms cheap/simple/unkillable and can be taught to a 10 year old. Where AK can lag behind so only against new generation weapons (I xs some kind of lasers) and so it is a perfect weapon and this is a fact.

[DuraLexSedLex.]

Imagine the unthinkable!
Ak is made on high-quality machines, NEW MACHINES, from high-quality material (not the same guano as now, the quality has really fallen), highly skilled workers. This is finally a weapon of the future, but Izhmash is Izhmash

[Pimply]

The problem is that even if they start doing it, Ak in the form that it is now will remain a modified system of the 70s. 70s because it was then that he underwent a really serious modernization. And the current one has not been brought to modern realities.

[Hon]

M16 is the development of what years?

[Pimply]

The same can be said about the trilinear. Or onions. Dubin. The point is that life does not stand still.

[Blot]

cheap/simple/not killable
..............................................................
This is his only advantage! It's just that we have been zombified by the communists since childhood, that this machine gun is the best ... Let's open our eyes!

[Fedya]

One American soldier who went through Vietnam said: If there is a war with aliens, I will take an AK-47 with me, and a lot of ammunition for it. That's why he didn't remember about the m-16?

[georg737577]

Because I did not see the AK-12 ...

[report4]

The article clearly lacks technical data, such as rifle weight, muzzle velocity, etc.

[Hon]

Weight guaranteed weight is about 3 kg, the speed of the bullet depends on the length of the barrel, in general, everything is standard, like all 5.56 rifles

[MilaPhone]

Worth the money, probably like a small plane.

[nazgul-ishe]

So this is a small plane.

[Pimply]

Why would? $1950 for the civilian market is quite acceptable money. Plus 500 for a replacement barrel. For the army, two times lower, as always.

[crossbow]

The barrel and the butt are on the same line - it’s time for ours to do this too.

[Hudo]

Quote: crossbow

The barrel and the butt are on the same line - it’s time for ours to do this too.

This has long been known to everyone, but the silhouette of a weapon fired in this way will be much higher with all the ensuing troubles on the battlefield. You don't really value the lives of our soldiers.

[Alex_T]

I wonder how the plastic case of this product will withstand a fall from the 2nd floor onto asphalt or concrete?

[Pimply]

Are you familiar with the quality of modern plastics?

[Hudo]

Quote: Pimply

Are you familiar with the quality of modern plastics?

Well, Mr. Alex_T categorically does not want to collect under fire for a painfully long time after such a fall of a plastic karamultuk springs scattered on all four sides and whispered. He does not want and that's it! I also don't want to. If you, Mr. Pupyrchaty, do not burden you excessively, post as an argument for discussion a video of the barrel falling from a height of the second floor or documentary results of such tests, as well as effective shooting after this fatal error.

[Hudo]

Here you go! It would be better instead of "minus" they took and explained, for example, the question - But will the receiver lead if the warrior misses and the plastic miracle caramultuk stays close to the fire for some time during the night? Or how long will it take to scrape off the dirt if this sample, replete with corners and holes, accidentally falls into a tank track and can a warrior fire from it?

[a.hamster55]

I think the quality of the plastic is excellent. I still use some of the things that the United States supplied under lend-lease during the Second World War. And I never cease to be amazed at the quality of assembly, processing and strength of steel, despite the fact that there was a war.

[Massik]

The war was going on in Europe, and in the USA, a worker calmly straightened a file chewing a hot dog.

[Dezzed]

everything, of course, turned out very beautifully, but the weapon seemed to be from Hollywood second-rate fiction.

buttons, little things stick out all over the body.
Italians are good people, but someone told them that they are supposedly good at technology.

[Pimply]

Well, actually said "Zhiguli", which just stopped producing, with its prototype "Fiat".

Beretta is one of the most recognizable small arms manufacturers in the world.

[Agent 008]

Recently, I saw the tests of our AEK assault rifle here on video, so I liked it more: the return is less, not so bulky, more compact ... It would be nice if the AEK was adopted ...

[Blot]

He would also like a modern design ...

[Revolver]

Quote: Blot

He would also like a modern design ...

The main thing is not the form, but the content. But there is such a question. If you attach someone with an AKM butt, it won’t seem enough. Yes, and under attack, say, a sapper shovel can be substituted instead of a shield. And how will this plastic toy behave in such a situation, and how much after that can it be used for its intended purpose, or at least repaired for not very expensive?

[Hudo]

Quote: Blot

He would also like a modern design ...

yeah, and rose-shaped thong shorts for drill drills to boot. Weapons are designed to be ergonomic and effective for action on the battlefield, and not glamorous modern design for frills and antics in the style of "military" on the stage of the collective farm gay club.

[alex-cn]

An interesting weapon, but the question is, the bolt handle is rearranged, and the direction of ejection of the shells? And what is "use the butt as an emergency tool" - in the face when it jams? And here is the plastic, all the same, our testers usually bring down everything where there is a lot of plastic, even at the stage of preliminary tests ... I don’t know how. holding on to it, and even better, shooting. Let's see how it will catch on with buyers. Especially in the troops.

[Pimply]

Quote: alex-cn

An interesting weapon, but the question is, the bolt handle is rearranged, and the direction of ejection of the shells?

There is an option to change from right to left.

[Asan Ata]

I think the weapon should not cling to the protrusions, and these modern barrels are solid hooks. Whether business PM.

[tracer]

And if you put a bar of soap in your pocket .. in general there will be beauty.

[Pimply]

Where do you see special ledges?

[Revolver]

Quote: Asan Ata

I think the weapon should not cling to the protrusions, and these modern barrels are solid hooks. Whether business PM.

So after all, it is not intended for hidden carry, it will not catch on the pocket.

[tracer]

Probably, I am the first who saw this beast alive from all the highly respected members of the site. Yes, it is indeed available in major gun stores in the US. For example, in "Cabellas", where I actually got caught by accident. Yes, the thing is a little bulky but surprisingly light. Everything is plastic and it is not easy to find iron elements in your hands (except for the barrel) the first time. But it sits very well, the butt is adjustable. It lays down where it needs to be, very quickly, like a glove. The fact that things change so quickly and so easily is a definite advantage. This is generally amazing. A small minus in my opinion is a certain bulkiness, but it is offset by light weight. Beretta really never ceases to amaze with new models and technologies for the introduction of modern plastics in handguns ... Yes, you can shout "cheers for the patriots" that there is nothing better than a "Kalashnikov" on planet earth, but weapons experts and connoisseurs have a slightly different opinion. And the experience of fighting modern small arms with Kalashnikov variants of all times clearly showed the advantages of modern systems. The winner in a weapon duel is the one who outstrips the enemy's shot by a split second. And in order to get ahead, it is necessary to make the weapon convenient and light with obligatory special optical devices (such as Red Dot or ACOG). There is no other way for the development of small arms of this type. I think that even a person who is not very knowledgeable in the arms business is clear that the Russian arms industry is lagging behind, very, very significantly. Reason to think.

[Pimply]

Senks for the review is small. And the rest, except applicability. Shutters and other ergonomics? Weight?

[Bigfoot_Sev]

wedge machine.
in our country, if it will be sold, then ... let me predict ... at 120-140 thousand rubles apiece. standard "two ends".
although we are unlikely to have a lot of buyers. assaults are not held in high esteem by us. well, ak-moids, if only. as they say "hands are accustomed to axes." no offense to the owners. 8-)

= ^ _ ^ =

[alex-cn]

And where to go if the duty on weapons is up to 80%

[Wolverine67]

Quote: tracer

And the experience of fighting modern small arms with Kalashnikov variants of all time, clearly showed the advantages of modern systems. The winner in the weapon duel is the one who is ahead of the enemy’s shot by a split second. And in order to get ahead it is necessary to make the weapon convenient and light with the already required special optical devices (such as Red Dot or AKOG). There is no other way to develop small arms of this type. I think that even a not very knowledgeable person in the arms business is clear that the Russian arms industry is lagging behind, very, very significant. A reason to think.

...... you are about this, the venerable Tracer, tell the Afghan Mujahideen who are fighting the good old Kalashnikov, as far as I know, the M-16 and M-4 are not very common among them. And for some reason, proud American soldiers, armed with the most modern small arms, have not achieved much success in outpacing the shots of the Taliban fighters, and are not very eager to go beyond the perimeter of their fortified bases, but prefer to bomb from a height. so where, then, is the overwhelming superiority of the most modern small arms with the sights you mentioned. And in my opinion a lot depends on the person. At one time in Afghanistan I saw the notorious "Bur", and just like a Pashtun shepherd shoots from it, it seems to be made in the 1870s, and I would not dare to fall for it in the 21st century ..... ... so, as always, "maybe all the same with eggs in your pants" you will figure it out from the beginning ......

[tracer]

Well, yes ... Alya throw hats. By the way, you are respected, sort out your egg products before looking into other people's pants. And by the way, what's with the eggs? You are clearly not on this site. The Majoheds are fighting not because they have a choice of modern small arms, but because they don’t. And besides the Chinese Kalashnikovs, there is also nothing and a PC and the entire former Soviet rifle arsenal. Judging by your knowledge in shooting, you still tell me about the "Bullet with a displaced center of gravity" in the new "Kalash". "Goes into the chest and out the leg." I have heard enough of such stories ... And if you don’t understand something, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.

[Wolverine67]

...... yes, with what hats, you can’t cover yourself with any hats, the Americans from Afghanistan are draping, and that’s it! .... now, thanks to your post, we have at least an excuse, because the SA fought with "obsolete" weapons, and what will you justify yourself with, because your weapons are the most modern and the sights are all shot and the lasers all shine - they penetrate the darkness, so what prevented you from "getting ahead of the shots" and killing all the Taliban ???????????????????????????????????????
.... about the eggs in the pants, these are the ones that interfere with the shitty dancer. But you don’t pester me with your homosexual hints, mind me of your homophilic American reality ..... I don’t like women like that .......
.... I wonder where from my post you made a conclusion about my knowledge in shooting business ????..... or you don’t know about:
Lee-Enfield 1904 is an English rifle built on the basis of the Lee-Enfield rifle of the 1896-1899 model.
During the Afghan war (1979-1989) it was widely used by the Afghan Mujahideen in the armed struggle against OKSVA. Among the Soviet soldiers was called - the English rifle "BUR".
.... you love Wikipedia so much, so you probably believe it more than me ....
.... about bullets with a displaced center of gravity, they made me laugh, a month ago I already discussed in the same way with one defender of the White House, and explained to him the device of the PS cartridge, so you are showing it to the wrong person. By the way, I didn’t see it from my foot, but I saw a lumbago with an inlet in the right intercostal space, and I saw it over the right shoulder blade at the weekend, so it also happens, you know ......
.... and about your GREAT shooting knowledge - from your post, well, I just can't judge them, where is the opinion of a specialist about the characteristics that affect the accuracy and stability of shooting, where is the analysis of the successful decision of the constructors about the trigger or bolt group, nothing of this I did not see in your "specialist" reasoning, but I saw only the opinion of the "designer", light, comfortable in the hands, a lot of plastic, everything is so modern, pretentious ...
... by the way, I don’t cheat the barrel itself at all, nothing is said about it in my post, it’s possible that it’s a very good thing, I don’t know, therefore I don’t write unfounded ...
but your remark about the unequivocal advantage of your modern systems, I don’t quite agree with him, don’t blame AK, he’s just a little different from the opera. And you drove over it again, although there are no words about it in the article, you would be better off discussing this rifle, but it seems to be itching, well, not a post without swearing at the AK, which annoyed you here so much that you don’t hate us like that .... all of us now it’s not scary anymore, don’t be afraid, just don’t forget Bismarck, he was a great dude, and most importantly a perspicacious one .......

[mirag2]

No one scolds the AK - it’s just that time has passed, like the IL2 attack aircraft and PPSh, and the T34 - at one time there were still those things, but now they are outdated. That’s all. lobbyism of the manufacturer (which has already established production), or due to poverty.

[tracer]

Dear, and who actually curses the AK family? I posted a post on the topic of a new weapon seen, unlike you, with my own eyes. In your knowledge about Lee Enfield is simply shocked. But now is not about that. It seems to me (sorry for politeness) that you do not understand the discussion a little. It's not about body kits (although they are also). But the point is the new construction providing a faster and more accurate shot, that's all. If you do not understand the subject of discussion, do not climb into the Kalash row with a "pig's snout". Do you think the Americans are leaving, frightened by the Mudzhoheds with Chinese rusty Kalash? Things like politics and economics (I keep quiet about geopolitics) are probably not quite familiar to you. Learn and read nothing. And your comments will be on the topic and interesting to everyone. As for my competence .. I have been doing shooting sports (rifle) for 27 years. And in the army he was a sniper and a machine gunner ... And there are awards for the homeland. My experience allows me to draw conclusions, unlike probably from yours. And wind up on your mustache, if respected site members speak politely to you, this does not mean that you can be rude. And in the army, I think I would talk to you differently for rudeness.

[Wolverine67]

...... why are you so "respected" excited, I'm in my posts, only on you and nothing else where you considered rudeness ...... and why do you not like my knowledge about Lee Enfield, although I I don’t know a damn thing about her, I saw it with my eyes, but I didn’t even hold it in my hands, so I didn’t say that .....
.... I don’t deny the presence of body kits in modern weapons, I didn’t say this, it’s good ...... about the "pig snout" and about the new design, please, please, this is exactly what I didn’t see in the posts for some reason " such a deeply knowledgeable "specialist, or maybe I haven't considered something from my" Kalashny "series ...
... about leaving Afghanistan, the point is not in geopolitics, the point is in the results, and you have no result ....... well, or then, arguing in your opinion, the Soviet Union also left Afghanistan for "geopolitical" reasons! !!!
..... things like politics and economics are not known, and why the hell do I know them, because there is an "American uncle" who will explain all politics to us and calculate the economy, everything is only for our good, because he sleeps and dreams, as it were to do this so that we live better, he is tormented by insomnia, but he suffers and worries for all of us ....
..... you have been involved in sports for 27 years, so the flag is in your hands, success at the shooting range and in competitions ..........
...... they served the Motherland, which is also worthy of respect, just explain how they were reclassified from a machine gunner to snipers, we didn’t practice this somehow, the tactics of actions are completely different, and the sniper has such a bunch of professional little things that they preferred to learn immediately and not later transferred from other positions .......
.... I don’t have any awards from my beloved Motherland, only a trio of badges for participation, well, I don’t love her (the Motherland) for this and I’ll cut her throat for anyone ...... with my teeth, even if my hands don’t work ... .
..... yes, I’m bad with experience, it’s better for you, I have only 8 years under the contract, all the time in the positions of junior commanders, I haven’t been on promotion and study courses, I ran all over the mountains with a gun and all over the "beloved Motherland", well, only five "minor" conflicts in the territory of the CIS, and two "small" troubles in the Chechen Republic, where can I go before you ......
.... and in the army we would not have spoken differently to you, I would never have gone to serve in the US Army. And it’s not funny at all to knock on the chest with your fist on an Internet, it’s not like children, otherwise I would, but if .... !!!! .... I say children !!!
..... I am writing on the site not so that my comments are interesting to someone, but I express my opinion, but whether it is interesting or not is not for me to decide and not for you .....
...... and about rudeness, you don’t confuse Russian proverbs with rudeness, well, or look into Ozhegov’s dictionary to improve your knowledge .....
... no mustache, my woman does not like them .......

[mirag2]

The Afghan Mujahideen do not have lave to pay 2 green pieces for a barrel. For two pieces they will buy 10 self-made AKs (almost ten) and arm 8 martyrs.

[Wolverine67]

Quote: mirag2

The Afghan Mujahideen do not have lave to pay 2 green pieces for a barrel. For two pieces they will buy 10 self-made AKs (almost ten) and arm 8 martyrs.

..... not well, the Afghan ones don’t, and there are “stupid shahid suicide bombers”, but how are the Syrian “revolutionaries, fighters for the ideals of Western democracy”, all of Europe and Pindos supply them there, and even American instructors are training in Jordan, now is the time to prove that it is super-duper Western weapons that help defeat the "Assad dictatorship", why not show the "absolute superiority" of modern systems over the notorious AK, because it seems that this is exactly what "friends- suppliers" and are interested, but for some reason the Syrian opposition is fighting for the most part with AKs in their hands, and by the way there are a lot of professionals, and not some kind of duped suicide bombers. they’ve been versed in weapons for the last 10-15 years they’ve been fighting .....

[tooth46]

Not being a complete specialist in the field of firearms, nevertheless - Sunu and his three kopecks. The sample under discussion, due to the mass of attached bells and whistles, will certainly not work reliably in mud and other difficult operating conditions. So, sissy, shoot at the shooting range ... Whether it's AKM, AKMS!

[alihan.kz]

well, special forces are already using them in kz, etc.

[nekromonger]

such a butt should have been on the AK-74 for a long time, is it really not obvious? Kalash with its reliability is not ice for convenience.

[brutal true]

Quote: nekromonger

Kalash with its reliability for convenience is not ice

Everyone says something - not ice, outdated,. And specifically what is wrong with AK? I understood everything: we need to put the AK mechanic in a stylish futuristic plastic case, stick picatinny rails on all sides, change the design of the muzzle brake-compensator, change the name to, for example, "Hyperbaloid 2020", hold a global PR campaign, after which snotty , pimply youths, will change their "authoritative" opinion and will no longer scold AK, but on the contrary, maybe they will praise a little, a drop, although this will already be real fantasy.

[spok]

how many years have been talking about the rearmament of the army (new machine gun)
And nothing has changed
replacing one body with another did not lead to anything (Serdyukov for Shoigu)

[svp67]

Quote from spok

replacing one body with another did not lead to anything (Serdyukov for Shoigu)

SUCH STUPIDITY can be said either by a person FAR FROM MILITARY AFFAIRS or pursuing some kind of HIS INTERESTS ....

[brutal true]

Quote from spok

replacing one body with another did not lead to anything (Serdyukov for Shoigu)

Excuse me, you yourself what kind of body? It is not too small for such statements, and even in such a tone that, they say, the "celestial" deigned to "dark" eyes slightly open to what is happening. Don't laugh, clown.

[tracer]

Here, gentlemen, I bring a photo of a living "beast". True, there were no longer any in 5,56 caliber (yesterday, for example, they were). The small-caliber (22LR) version for the civilian market remained. But absolutely the same, except for the caliber and the possibility of replacing the barrel. The description "to the touch" led a little higher. I put a very high mark on the quality of workmanship .... Super. By the way, I twisted the Bulgarian AK clone in caliber 7.62 / 39 ..very good quality. Unlike the Romanian remake ... The quality is the worst. I didn't even want to take it. This is a separate topic for a separate article.

[Conepatus]

Well, what is so outstanding about this rifle? A beautiful plastic body kit and no more. Well, accuracy can still. Although I would like to look at its accuracy after a day of operation in Afghanistan. for use in Europe or America can and will do.

[Wolverine67]

Quote: tracer

The Majoheds are fighting not because they have a choice of modern small arms, but because they don’t. And besides the Chinese Kalashnikovs, there is also nothing and a PC and the entire former Soviet rifle arsenal.

...... how so, not in order, but why not, why the United States supplied its allies with obsolete weapons from 1980 to 1989, why did not provide the "great fighters for the freedom of Afghanistan from the Soviet threat" with the opportunity to "get ahead of the shot", because then if the victory of the "democratic forces" would come faster and be more obvious!!!!!! This is a betrayal of the interests of all "democratic" humanity, to urgently conduct an investigation, hearings in Congress and to the scaffold of the guilty!!!!
.... here you are with your reasoning and got caught, after all, I didn’t argue that AK is more accurate or not, I said that you just need to be able to shoot. You say that they don’t have a choice of weapons, and thank God or Allah for that, I don’t know, otherwise if there was a choice, but with your modern bells and whistles, they wouldn’t be your nose for the territory of the base, you would they would crawl through bases, well, or along underground galleries. So when you build a gun that will outstrip the Taliban with Kalash, then you’ll already try to argue with us (SA), otherwise we drove spirits with Kalash in SA, but you can’t with ARX, so you still have to grow up before us and grow up kids.......

[nekromonger]

Quote from: brutal true

Quote: nekromonger

Kalash with its reliability for convenience is not ice

Everyone says something - not ice, outdated,. And specifically what is wrong with AK? I understood everything: we need to put the AK mechanic in a stylish futuristic plastic case, stick picatinny rails on all sides, change the design of the muzzle brake-compensator, change the name to, for example, "Hyperbaloid 2020", hold a global PR campaign, after which snotty , pimply youths, will change their "authoritative" opinion and will no longer scold AK, but on the contrary, maybe they will praise a little, a drop, although this will already be real fantasy.

You can praise only for unpretentiousness, according to the accuracy of the SCS, it will put it in your belt, and you think that I am worried about the current appearance.

[mechanic]

accuracy, beauty .... Mr. but still something !!!! nothing new! If you wrap an old candy in a new piece of paper, it will not become new! improve the culture of AK production, work with ergonomics (and this, in principle, has already been worked out) and it will be ahead for a long time!

[Strv]

Pretty should not come at the expense of reliability. The show-off stuff looks nice, but when it comes to application, that's where the ugly stuff comes out.