Assembling combat aircraft at the Komsomolsk aircraft plant

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[tronin.maxim]

Photo class! But a few.

[Zhenya]

But I didn’t think that the workshops were so healthy.

[RUSmen]

Duck, planes are not socks, respectively, and the size of industrial buildings

[ildar335]

Duck, planes are not socks, respectively, and the size of industrial buildings

koment hurricane !!!))))))))))))))

[ia-ai00]

The shop looks one-on-one - the turbine section of the thermal power station, state district power station - the same constructive solution, the same dimensions, only there in the center of the hall are turbogenerators in operation, and here are airplanes at the assembly stage.

[Avenger711]

I had to be in the turbine, I did not notice any similarities.

[ia-ai00]

I mean exactly building structures. Of course, if you visited a station of the times of the 40s, 50s - low-power, then I agree, but since the end of the 60s, it is almost the same, believe me. During her life, by virtue of her profession, she traveled around Kazakhstan up to 50% of large power plants, 5-10 times. I can “skip” assume that the column spacing in the hall is 6 m, in the cross section the span of the building is within 39-42 meters.

[dimon-media]

Quote: Marrying

But I didn’t think that the workshops were so healthy.

Workshop as a workshop. Normal sizes. This is not a teenage aircraft modeling club in the club.

[vjhbc]

and at the gates of a Boeing or Northrop Grumman it is written in Russian letters NORTHROP GRUMMAN military aircraft military aircraft manufacturing

Quote: Zhenya [/ quote

[POBEDA]

He took this comment off my tongue .... Ours cannot live without this stupidity ... Well, at least they would have duplicated it in two languages, wherever it went ...

[vjhbc]

and at the gates of a Boeing or Northrop Grumman it is written in Russian letters NORTHROP GRUMMAN military aircraft production, BOEING military aircraft production

Quote: Marrying

But I didn’t think that the workshops were so healthy.

[Siberian German]

you should see our flight shop and bagels especially where the missiles are collected - oooo this is power but especially in the morning near the checkpoint when tens of thousands of people were going to one enterprise - just now I began to understand what it is

[honest jew]

Somehow not a lot !!! Something is not enough in the hangars of aircraft !!! And where are the words of Rogozin about hundreds of aircraft !!!

[ildar335]

Schaub the honest Eugays threw fotochki to his nephew Ize in Lockheed ???

[ia-ai00]

And then they can be seen in the sky, overhead.

[poccinin]

and the security of what is what is not. Only the drunk collects through the times. yes suckers with the phone without permission. and no one checks women at all. Protection is female. "Solidarity against men" although they write everywhere on posters. "LEAVE PHONES IN THE STORAGE CHAMBER." CAMERAS SHOULD BE WASTE "." TELEPHONE PERMISSIONS. "This is how military secrets are guarded here. once "LIGHT PRODUCTION." still have the side numbers written.

[max702]

Nda .. what secrecy are you talking about? All the blueprints, those cards, part numbers, and so on have long been known to a potential adversary, and by no means from ordinary employees of the enterprise, but from the management of, as it were, not even a plant and not a design bureau, but higher ...

[Tatar]

But just what kind of plane is this ??? judging by the dashboard. where everything is mechanical, the plane is clearly not the latest model

[Rustam]

Tatar, just what kind of plane is this ???

Ship SU-33

[svp67]

Quote: Rustam

Ship SU-33

That's for sure? And for what army?

[VAF]

Quote: svp67

And for what army?

Scheduled repair of 4 cars

[Tatar]

so they are no longer 15 years old

[Rustam]

svp67 Is that for sure? And for what army?

For ours it is natural, since su-33 was not exported.

Tatar
so they are no longer 15 years old

Carries out repair, supposedly 4 cars - without modernization

here (October 2013) photo from KNAAPO

[Bongo]

Su-33 has not been produced for a long time, not the fact that the photos are new

[Avenger711]

They need to be repaired.

[svp67]

Quote: Rustam

For ours it is natural, since su-33 was not exported.

This is GOOD, because it was announced about the transition to MiG29K ...

[VAF]

Quote: svp67

and then it was announced about the transition to the MiG29K ...

To begin with, to switch to "something, you need to do it ... do it. Then retrain the personnel. But only then speak ... well, there is a MiG-29K."
And the "materiel" in service requires constant maintenance and repair!

[svp67]

Quote: vaf

And the "materiel" in service requires constant maintenance and repair!

That is, in the photo - the repair of "old" aircraft?

[VAF]

Quote: svp67

That is, in the photo - the repair of "old" aircraft?

So sure! +! That would 279 KIAP continued to carry out the assigned BZ for its intended purpose! : soldier

[Rustam]

Interesting and for what minus

We have some positions, maybe? such-all, if a person follows the wrong course, for any we put minus unreadable -surprisingly

[VAF]

Quote: Rustam

Interesting and for what minus

Hi Rustam, buddy! Do not take ... "in your head", at the expense of cons right now fix

[VAF]

Quote: svp67

and then it was announced about the transition to the MiG29K ...

Battle formations of shock groups must now be covered

[Ramadan]

And what kind of photograph is this, from which airplane are they taking off? Is there an F-16 there or does it seem to me? Where does he accompany us?
Who knows what, share it? :)

[karelia molot]

Monument Su-33 with a photo of Apakidze. There ...

[marat1000]

The panel is certainly miserable ...

[Lantau]

What exactly is wretchedness?

[dimon-media]

Quote: marat1000

The panel is certainly miserable ...

And what do you need, the touchpad in the entire cockpit from Apple with the Mac operating system? This is the cockpit of a combat aircraft, not an attraction of a flight simulator in Disneyland. in my opinion the dashboard meets all the requirements. Reliable, simple, and understandable. In combat conditions, more is not necessary.

[Rustam]

marat1000 (4)
The panel is certainly miserable ..

Yes, she is with arrow indicators, because these are ship SU-33s, 90s of release

Since the Navy ordered the latest MIG-29K, KUB-considered that it’s not worth upgrading, only scheduled repairs are carried out


Do not worry about the new MIG-29K will be like in the best houses in France and Paris + French filling + Helmet sights Thales TopSight

here's the photo booth
Thales TopSight video -

[VAF]

Quote: Rustam

here's the photo booth

Rustam .. will add .. text with explanations to the .. cab of "Indus"!

The Federal Research Center "Ramenskoye Design Bureau of Instrument Engineering" (RPKB) and GosNIIAS are the leading organizations in the development of on-board digital avionics with an open architecture based on the PrNK-29K and PrNK-29KUB complexes, which use the digital data transfer bus MIL-STD-1553B .
RPKB is responsible for the supply of the IDK-42 technical diagnostic system, a wide-angle monochrome indicator on the ShKAI windshield, and 6- and 8-inch liquid crystal displays for displaying tactical conditions and MPI-10-17 aircraft systems.
MNPK Avionika and OJSC Elara jointly developed the KSU-941 digital remote control flight control system, as well as the RD-33-3 TRDDF electronic control system.

The components of French origin are:
1.Built-in GPS ring laser gyroscope based on the SIGMA-95 inertial navigation system (Sagem Défense Sécurité).
2.Two integrated TACAN VHF radios and radio altimeters (THALES company).
3. Pilots will use the TopOwl-F light helmet-mounted system, which will display radar and infrared images, a digital map of the area, as well as real-time information from the indicator on the background of the windshield and multifunctional tactical indicators located in the cockpit.

The aircraft radar warning system and TACAN navigation system will use Tarang Mk3 type equipment developed by Indian companies Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL).
An EL / L-8222 EW type suspended electronic warhead container will be supplied by the Israeli company ELTA Systems.
Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant will supply 13CM IR sensors and a station
front view 13CM, weighing 78 kg, which includes:
1. Infrared station (320 x 256).
2. The television channel (640 x 480).
3.Laser rangefinder.

The MiG-29K / KUB is equipped with multifunctional airborne X-band radars of the Zhuk-ME type (N-010ME).

Aircraft will be able to use UAB with a laser / GPS-guidance system type AASM French company Sagem Défense Sécurité.
Their use will be provided by the built-in laser detection and target designation system of type Litening-3 developed by the Israeli company RAFAEL.

For ground crew training, a German-Russian joint venture (German Rheinmetall Defense Electronics and Russian MiG RSK) developed a full-scale simulator using a laser projection system (Avior company) and a 7-channel EPXTM-500 visual projection system developed by the American company Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
The system will be equipped with a high-resolution three-dimensional (3-D) terrain model.

[Alex 241]

Sorry for the translation. The TopOwl ® for TopOwl-F combat aircraft has been associated and qualified with existing systems and weapons. Thanks to Thales's extensive experience in HELMET, and domain mapping, TopOwl F-Design offers the best compromise between requirements and operational safety. It also uses successful technology developed for TopOwl helicopters. 1) The safest helmet weighing Headworn: 1.45 kg without O ² mask Optimized balance Qualified windblast 625 Kts Unlimited peripheral vision Large pupil compatible with laser protection glasses 2) improved precision technology tuned Helmet fits spread around the world tracking system Head Micro Display Technology 3 ) Modular design One of the main pilots in the helmet one-seat display module One night vision reduces the cost of ownership 4) qualified and flight proven Skilled on the Mirage 2000-5 and MiG-29 Selected by the French Air Force and Dassault Mirage 2000-5 on the selected MiG corporation to equip MiG-29 K for the Indian Navy 5) Technical characteristics Monocular 20 ° projection viewing Video recording of force multiplier for a fighter -Time and energy saving, missile firing options increase - Situational awareness improvements. -Safety and operational efficiency is enhanced by dual-control local LOS Source: THALES http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio/Aerospace/Aerospace_Product_TopOwlForCombat
Aircraft /

[Alex 241]

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[Ramadan]

The cabin is good)
The box is apparently automatic, as you can see only two gas and brake pedals))))

[Suroks]

Guys, and you saw the F-16 assembly shop one and a half kilometers long, this wretchedness does not please at all, and the panel is really old ...

[Zhenya]

Do you know what budget the US Army has? So, their conveyors should not be surprised.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Suroks

and the panel is really old ...

... who whispered to you?
Yes, do you know what the black-and-white panel is b / w?
And our original color went.
The fact that there are electromechanical and parametric display channels is a tribute to the well-deserved reliability of these systems (at least the enemy electronic warfare systems will not work out). So you never heard the pilots say "those fucking electric watermelons." Really modern watermelons and Boeings could not sit like the famous Tu-154 in the middle of the taiga on a helicopter field with completely failed equipment.

[both s69]

Quote: Rus2012

Indeed, modern watermelons and Boeings could not sit like the famous Tu-154 in the middle of the taiga on a helicopter field with completely failed equipment

That's why this carcass model has been flying for almost half a century!
"Made in USSR", is a quality mark on VPK products and dual-use products!

[Avenger711]

Yeah, only the whole world has long been taking cars with EDSU.

[0255]

Quote: both-with 69

Quote: Rus2012

Indeed, modern watermelons and Boeings could not sit like the famous Tu-154 in the middle of the taiga on a helicopter field with completely failed equipment

That's why this carcass model has been flying for almost half a century!
"Made in USSR", is a quality mark on VPK products and dual-use products!

Tu-154 flies only because there is no money for new planes Remember how much the Tu-154 was broken from old age

[lazy]

and how many Boeings especially 737 were broken from old age?

[aviator65]

Remember how much the Tu-154 was broken from old age
Yes, not from old age, but from the mess in the current civil aviation.

[aviator65]

And then independently take off from it.

[Avenger711]

Panel Su-33, and what else should it be?

[lazy]

this "wretchedness" in the Soviet Union made 300 aircraft a year, not in the size of the matter but in its use

[aszzz888]

Well done factory workers! During the flood, they themselves saved the plant, territories and everything else.
Let more and with high quality do their job!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I would like to watch such photo stories more often. And most importantly, in the sky and more of such handsome menacing menacing ..! It would be somehow calmer in my soul ..

[Gregazov]

If you believe Zadornov, then "poor" means with God, that is, good. In my opinion, this panel is simply several times more expensive to manufacture compared to a digital one, but it works better due to its autonomy. All devices can hardly fail at once. Even without power, the magnetic compass will work.

[Avenger711]

Well, look at the Su-35 panel, there is a frisky minimum of fur there. appliances.

[Janis S.U.]

Quote: marat1000

The panel is certainly miserable ...

The most important thing is functional and self-sufficient. You, dear, are accustomed to your Opel Record and think that the combat aircraft should have a panel from the car of your dreams - Honda Civic a la 2008. But, right word, why does a lion need a monkey tail?

[DesToeR]

I killed on the spot an inscription in English: SUKHOI. Of course, I understand that the concern, world trade, world recognition and all that. But are you Russian or who? Learn to respect yourself already and begin to show this respect, first of all, to your language!

[Vlad_Mir]

Marketing events! There is nothing to be done - the demand of the era!

[ia-ai00]

Here it is - SUKHOI - I was also struck by the eye, sort of like a factory not in Russia, not GOOD!

[aviator65]

I wonder how Pavel Osipovich himself would look at it, if he was alive now?

[Ramadan]

And note, the flag of Russia is nowhere to be seen in the photographs, even by accident ...

[Platov]

Beautiful photos. You won’t take such pictures on the phone. Most often, you would take such photos taken by a specialist.

[morpogr]

The main plant is working and aircraft are being built.

[APASUS]

I would very much like to see the plant’s workshops during the last flood.
And then scribblers crooked that everything flooded

[1c-inform-city]

When talking with pilots, almost everyone says that they do not care what kind of panel they would just work. In my opinion, money is being torn for modern bells and whistles, but the functionality of these things is doubtful, especially when the display fails. It's like in modern cars, everything that is possible is crammed, but whether this is necessary or not is another question.

[Avenger711]

Will you draw the tactical situation on the "alarm clocks"?

[ia-ai00]

Vlad_Mir SU
Marketing events! There is nothing to be done - the demand of the era

I can understand - in the storefront, advertising on the billboard, but - it's the same military factory, and even im.Komsomol.

[VAF]

Quote: ia-ai00

but - this is a military factory, and even named after Komsomol.

In general plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin

[ia-ai00]

Well, excuse me, I was guided by the title of the article - "Komsomolsk Aviation Plant", now I will know, thanks!

[AlexVas44]

The photo story somehow ends sadly - in the last picture a sad, pensive specialist ...

[VAF]

Quote: AlexVas44

in the last picture a sad, thoughtful specialist ...

The fact that sad is half of the trouble, if not in the know, then at us, in the Aviation Industry, 80% of hard workers .. "sad" ... salaries. You understand .. not at all ... "from export contracts"

But AGE !!!!!! And what will happen in 5 years ??? That's right ... SHE will be ... such a big ..... W..OPA

[AVV]

They are already finding fault with a good airplane! This is only an assembly! Name the best foreign analogue and compare all the characteristics, then we will draw conclusions !!!

[Flyer]

A pensive specialist sits in the Su-33, but the assembly of the other aircraft shown is most likely the Su-30cm (judging by the rejected nozzles).

[cyberspace]

Su-30SM assembled in Irkutsk, it is rather Su-35S - no PGO.

[Bongo]

The situation at the enterprise is not very simple, there is a serious personnel shortage caused by low wages. The ripper collector earns 20-25 TR, for a region with severe climatic conditions and high prices for food and essential goods it is not very much. From Komsomolsk there is a very serious outflow of the population. Production of military products at the plant is mainly for export.

[Thunderbolt]

To tighten salaries, well, it’s not the same critical costs. But what kind of impulse will give, what kind of return. It reminds me of installing a DZ on armored vehicles. The price of the issue is negligible interest, but the effect, the effect is considerable.

[guran]

Quote: Suroks

one and a half kilometers long assembly shop F-16, this wretchedness does not please at all, and the panel is really old ...

Does shop length mean anything? those. if it’s three kilometers long, like a slaughterhouse, is that even cooler? and how do you order workers to move around the workshop in wheelchairs?
American workshops, as I recall, are located in a different climate, and how to heat one and a half kilometers in Komsomolsk in winter?

The panel must be reliable in combat conditions. They said correctly, this is not an iPhone in the cabin.

[guran]

About the wretchedness of the SU panel. Only war will show hu from hu.
Combat SU is not an iPhone or a glamorous "Raptor"

Here is the SU-25 ("Rook") with probably a poorer panel, fought like a beast.

Major A. Rybakov (the day before he had already received an anti-aircraft gun shell in the flap) reached the airfield on an airplane with one choked engine, filled with kerosene from broken tanks, a fragment cut out by fragments, a completely failed hydraulic system and an unreleased landing gear. Not a single device worked in the cockpit, and a pilot with a bloodshot face led the plane blindly, at the command of his partner.

28 July 1987. An attack aircraft came to the base with a hole in the board, with a right engine smashed by a rocket, a fireball burned out of the fire compartment with a flame from the engine compartment, the electrical fixtures and power assemblies burned out, and the elevator control burned out at 95%. The fire continued until the landing itself, and yet - every cloud has a silver lining - the landing gear itself came out of a short circuit, and the aircraft was able to land.

The Su-25 l-that P. Golubtsova rocket half torn off the tail, but the engines continued to work. The brakes failed, and after landing, the plane rolled out of the strip into the minefield, where the pilot had to wait for the sappers to get out. Nearly a quarter of the wing burst from another plane. On the plane of Lieutenant Burakov, the rocket knocked down almost the entire keel, and the pilot with great difficulty managed to land, controlling the course with the help of ailerons.

[Avenger711]

With a half wing and F-15 sat down.

[aviator65]

Once. And it is not clear for what reason.

[Alex 241]

An absolutely real story about how an Israeli pilot was able to land an F - 15 after a mid-air collision which resulted in a wing being torn off the plane.

[Alex 241]

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[aviator65]

Good, you see, pilot. Nice plane. Only in the same Afghanistan didn’t it take our people off, moreover, not as a result of a collision, but as a result of hits. At the same time, they managed to return to the base and land, without making a sensation out of it.

[svp67]

Quote: Alex 241

An absolutely real story about how an Israeli pilot was able to land an F - 15 after a mid-air collision which resulted in a wing being torn off the plane.

When they do not spare money for the army and are preparing to fight seriously, as well as rigorous selection of candidates for pilots, while at the same time providing them with great guarantees and decent pay for their work, you can probably expect good pilots to serve there ...

[Alex 241]

Our guys are no worse, even better!

[aviator65]

And who is arguing?

[Alex 241]

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[smersh70]

Quote: Alex 241

Our guys are no worse, even better!

this is soooooo! I wouldn’t like to be inside this plane)) and by the way there were passengers or a training flight. by the way. who let them take off ... really it doesn’t beg the pilots skill ...

[Alex 241]

Here is all the information .............

[svp67]

Quote: Alex 241

Our guys are no worse, even better!

Alexander,
This is not even discussed ... since it is an AXIOM.
But it would be nice if, in addition to the pleasure of flying, every pilot would still feel himself a better person. Well wouldn’t it hurt?

[Alex 241]

Earrings this is not even discussed !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[svp67]

Quote: Alex 241

Earrings this is not even discussed !!!!!!!!!!!!!

QED

[Avenger711]

We stuck a photo of an old Su-33 under repair and a bunch of "experts" rushed to argue how good the mechanical panel is. Here is the Su-35S panel http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fighter/su35bm/su35bm-6.jpg 2 monitors.

[samoletil18]

Quote: aszzz888

Well done factory workers! During the flood, they themselves saved the plant, territories and everything else.
Let more and with high quality do their job!

good comment

[POCC]

Quote: Rus2012

Quote: Suroks

and the panel is really old ...

... who whispered to you?
Yes, do you know what the black-and-white panel is b / w?
And our original color went.
The fact that there are electromechanical and parametric display channels is a tribute to the well-deserved reliability of these systems (at least the enemy electronic warfare systems will not work out). So you never heard the pilots say "those fucking electric watermelons." Really modern watermelons and Boeings could not sit like the famous Tu-154 in the middle of the taiga on a helicopter field with completely failed equipment.

correctly electromagnetic weapons have not yet been canceled

[Takashi]

1. In the first picture, the backs of Pekarsh and Poghosyan are clearly visible.
therefore, the pictures were taken by the person accompanying them, a photo correspondent.
Nothing secret :) :):
Yes, and the planes are old, most likely repair. I can assume - workshop 7 or 55.

2. What nonsense to write like this:
"Well done factory workers! During the flood, they themselves saved the factory, the territory and everything else.
Let more do their job with high quality! "-

Fucking Plant is far from the Amur, the maximum that he had was the flooding of the sewage system at the old workshops. Factory workers themselves - did not go out in cars in an organized manner to rescue their factory and city. The maximum that they did was to allocate heavy equipment (of which they have units).
Do not write idiocy.

[datur]

Quote: honest Jew

Somehow not a lot !!! Something is not enough in the hangars of aircraft !!! And where are the words of Rogozin about hundreds of aircraft !!!

you as a Jew just got and ALL !!!!

[ia-ai00]

And suddenly, HE is very concerned about the defense ability of Russia, and is very worried, suddenly there aren’t enough aircraft ...

[nsbcom]

Very interesting article, thanks to the author!