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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 12 October 2013 08: 19 New
    18
    Photo class! good But a few. no
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 12 October 2013 08: 22 New
      +3
      But I didn’t think that the workshops were so healthy.
      1. RUSmen
        RUSmen 12 October 2013 08: 30 New
        +7
        Duck, planes are not socks, respectively, and the size of industrial buildings
        1. ildar335
          ildar335 12 October 2013 22: 37 New
          +2
          Duck, planes are not socks, respectively, and the size of industrial buildings

          koment hurricane !!!))))))))))))))
      2. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 12 October 2013 09: 34 New
        +2
        The shop looks one-on-one - the turbine section of the thermal power station, state district power station - the same constructive solution, the same dimensions, only there in the center of the hall are turbogenerators in operation, and here are airplanes at the assembly stage.
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 12 October 2013 17: 33 New
          +2
          I had to be in the turbine, I did not notice any similarities.
          1. ia-ai00
            ia-ai00 12 October 2013 19: 31 New
            0
            I mean building structures. Of course, if you visited a station of the times of the 40s, 50s - of low power, then I agree, but since the end of the 60s, then almost the same thing, believe me. Over the life of a profession in Kazakhstan, up to 50% of large power plants have traveled around, 5-10 times. I can suggest that the step of the columns in the hall is 6 m, in the cross section the span of the building is within 39-42 meters.
      3. dimon-media
        dimon-media 12 October 2013 11: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Marrying
        But I didn’t think that the workshops were so healthy.

        Workshop as a workshop. Normal sizes. This is not a teenage aircraft modeling club in the club.
      4. vjhbc
        vjhbc 12 October 2013 16: 08 New
        +7
        and at the gates of a Boeing or Northrop Grumman it is written in Russian letters NORTHROP GRUMMAN military aircraft military aircraft manufacturing
        Quote: Zhenya [/ quote
        [/ comment-show]
      5. vjhbc
        vjhbc 12 October 2013 16: 16 New
        +1
        and at the gates of a Boeing or Northrop Grumman it is written in Russian letters NORTHROP GRUMMAN military aircraft production, BOEING military aircraft production
        Quote: Marrying
        But I didn’t think that the workshops were so healthy.
      6. Siberian German
        Siberian German 12 October 2013 19: 59 New
        +2
        you should see our flight shop and bagels especially where the missiles are collected - oooo this is power but especially in the morning near the checkpoint when tens of thousands of people were going to one enterprise - just now I began to understand what it is
    2. honest jew
      honest jew 12 October 2013 20: 16 New
      0
      Somehow not a lot !!! Something is not enough in the hangars of aircraft !!! And where are the words of Rogozin about hundreds of aircraft !!!
      1. ildar335
        ildar335 12 October 2013 22: 38 New
        +1
        Schaub the honest Eugays threw fotochki to his nephew Ize in Lockheed ???
      2. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 13 October 2013 09: 52 New
        +1
        And then they can be seen in the sky, overhead.
  2. poccinin
    poccinin 12 October 2013 08: 26 New
    +6
    and the protection that there is that there isn’t. Only drunken collects through raz.da suckers with a phone without permission. and women don’t check women at all. The protection is female. "Solidarity against men" although they write everywhere on posters. "PHONES LEAVE IN STORAGE CAMERA." CAMERAS SHOULD BE TAPPED. ”“ TELEPHONE PERMISSIONS. ”Like this, we keep military secrets. times “LIGHT PRODUCTION.” still the numbers onboard would write.
    1. max702
      max702 12 October 2013 19: 32 New
      +3
      Nda .. what secrecy are you talking about? All the blueprints, those cards, part numbers, and so on have long been known to a potential adversary, and by no means from ordinary employees of the enterprise, but from the management of, as it were, not even a plant and not a design bureau, but higher ...
  3. Tatar
    Tatar 12 October 2013 08: 45 New
    +3
    But just what kind of plane is this ??? judging by the dashboard. where everything is mechanical, the plane is clearly not the latest model
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 12 October 2013 09: 01 New
      +7
      Tatar, just what kind of plane is this ???


      Ship SU-33
      1. svp67
        svp67 12 October 2013 10: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Rustam
        Ship SU-33

        That's for sure? And for what army?
        1. VAF
          VAF 12 October 2013 13: 57 New
          10
          Quote: svp67
          And for what army?


          Scheduled repair of 4 cars soldier
      2. Tatar
        Tatar 12 October 2013 10: 14 New
        +3
        so they are no longer 15 years old
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 12 October 2013 10: 37 New
          +5
          svp67 Is that for sure? And for what army?


          For ours it is natural, since su-33 was not exported.


          Tatar
          so they are no longer 15 years old



          Carries out repair, supposedly 4 cars - without modernization

          here (October 2013) photo from KNAAPO
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 12 October 2013 12: 45 New
            +4
            Su-33 has not been produced for a long time, not the fact that the photos are new
            1. Avenger711
              Avenger711 12 October 2013 17: 33 New
              +2
              They need to be repaired.
          2. svp67
            svp67 12 October 2013 13: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: Rustam
            For ours it is natural, since su-33 was not exported.

            This is GOOD, because it was announced about the transition to MiG29K ...
            1. VAF
              VAF 12 October 2013 14: 00 New
              +5
              Quote: svp67
              and then it was announced about the transition to the MiG29K ...


              To begin with, in order to switch to "something, you need to do this ..... do it. Then retrain the personnel. But only then talk ... so after all there is the Mig-29K.
              A "materiel" standing in service requires constant maintenance and repair! soldier
              1. svp67
                svp67 12 October 2013 14: 03 New
                +2
                Quote: vaf
                A "materiel" standing in service requires constant maintenance and repair!

                That is, in the photo - repair of the "old" aircraft?
                1. VAF
                  VAF 12 October 2013 14: 19 New
                  +4
                  Quote: svp67
                  That is, in the photo - repair of the "old" aircraft?


                  So sure! +! That would 279 KIAP continued to carry out the assigned BZ for its intended purpose! : soldier

                  1. Rustam
                    Rustam 12 October 2013 15: 01 New
                    +6
                    Interesting and for what minus what

                    We have some positions, maybe? such-all, if a person follows the wrong course, for any we put minus unreadable -surprisingly
                    1. VAF
                      VAF 12 October 2013 15: 43 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Rustam
                      Interesting and for what minus


                      Hi Rustam, my friend! Do not take ... "in the head", at the expense of cons wink right now fix drinks

            2. VAF
              VAF 12 October 2013 15: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: svp67
              and then it was announced about the transition to the MiG29K ...


              Battle formations of shock groups must now be covered soldier

              1. Ramadan
                Ramadan 13 October 2013 13: 26 New
                +1
                And what kind of photograph is this, from which airplane are they taking off? Is there an F-16 there or does it seem to me? Where does he accompany us?
                Who knows what, share it? :)
          3. karelia-molot
            karelia-molot 14 November 2013 22: 07 New
            +1
            Monument Su-33 with a photo of Apakidze. There ...
  4. marat1000
    marat1000 12 October 2013 08: 59 New
    -4
    The panel is certainly miserable ... belay
    1. Lantau
      Lantau 12 October 2013 10: 20 New
      0
      What exactly is wretchedness?
    2. dimon-media
      dimon-media 12 October 2013 11: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: marat1000
      The panel is certainly miserable ...

      And what do you need, the touchpad in the entire cockpit from Apple with the Mac operating system? This is the cockpit of a combat aircraft, not an attraction of a flight simulator in Disneyland. in my opinion the dashboard meets all the requirements. Reliable, simple, and understandable. In combat conditions, more is not necessary.
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    4. Rustam
      Rustam 12 October 2013 15: 16 New
      +3
      marat1000 (4)
      The panel is certainly miserable ..


      Yes, she is with arrow indicators, because these are ship SU-33s, 90s of release

      Since the Navy ordered the latest MIG-29K, KUB-considered that it’s not worth upgrading, only scheduled repairs are carried out


      Do not worry about the new MIG-29K will be like in the best houses in France and Paris + French filling + Helmet sights Thales TopSight

      here's the photo booth
      Thales TopSight video -
      1. VAF
        VAF 12 October 2013 16: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Rustam
        here's the photo booth


        Rustam .. add .. text with explanations to the .. cabin "Hindu"! wink

        The Federal Research Center "Ramenskoye Design Bureau of Instrument Engineering" (RPKB) and GosNIIAS are the leading organizations in the development of on-board digital avionics with an open architecture based on the PrNK-29K and PrNK-29KUB complexes, which use the digital data transfer bus MIL-STD-1553B .
        RPKB is responsible for the supply of the IDK-42 technical diagnostic system, a wide-angle monochrome indicator on the ShKAI windshield, and 6- and 8-inch liquid crystal displays for displaying tactical conditions and MPI-10-17 aircraft systems.
        MNPK Avionika and OJSC Elara jointly developed the KSU-941 digital remote control flight control system, as well as the RD-33-3 TRDDF electronic control system.

        The components of French origin are:
        1.Built-in GPS ring laser gyroscope based on the SIGMA-95 inertial navigation system (Sagem Défense Sécurité).
        2.Two integrated TACAN VHF radios and radio altimeters (THALES company).
        3. Pilots will use the TopOwl-F light helmet-mounted system, which will display radar and infrared images, a digital map of the area, as well as real-time information from the indicator on the background of the windshield and multifunctional tactical indicators located in the cockpit.

        The aircraft radar warning system and TACAN navigation system will use Tarang Mk3 type equipment developed by Indian companies Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL).
        An EL / L-8222 EW type suspended electronic warhead container will be supplied by the Israeli company ELTA Systems.
        Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant will supply 13CM IR sensors and a station
        front view 13CM, weighing 78 kg, which includes:
        1. Infrared station (320 x 256).
        2. The television channel (640 x 480).
        3.Laser rangefinder.

        The MiG-29K / KUB is equipped with multifunctional airborne X-band radars of the Zhuk-ME type (N-010ME).

        Aircraft will be able to use UAB with a laser / GPS-guidance system type AASM French company Sagem Défense Sécurité.
        Their use will be provided by the built-in laser detection and target designation system of type Litening-3 developed by the Israeli company RAFAEL.

        For ground crew training, a German-Russian joint venture (German Rheinmetall Defense Electronics and Russian MiG RSK) developed a full-scale simulator using a laser projection system (Avior company) and a 7-channel EPXTM-500 visual projection system developed by the American company Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
        The system will be equipped with a high-resolution three-dimensional (3-D) terrain model.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 12 October 2013 16: 27 New
          +1
          Sorry for the translation. The TopOwl ® for TopOwl-F combat aircraft has been associated and qualified with existing systems and weapons. Thanks to Thales's extensive experience in HELMET, and domain mapping, TopOwl F-Design offers the best compromise between requirements and operational safety. It also uses successful technology developed for TopOwl helicopters. 1) The safest helmet weighing Headworn: 1.45 kg without O ² mask Optimized balance Qualified windblast 625 Kts Unlimited peripheral vision Large pupil compatible with laser protection glasses 2) improved precision technology tuned Helmet fits spread around the world tracking system Head Micro Display Technology 3 ) Modular design One of the main pilots in the helmet one-seat display module One night vision reduces the cost of ownership 4) qualified and flight proven Skilled on the Mirage 2000-5 and MiG-29 Selected by the French Air Force and Dassault Mirage 2000-5 on the selected MiG corporation to equip MiG-29 K for the Indian Navy 5) Technical characteristics Monocular 20 ° projection viewing Video recording of force multiplier for a fighter -Time and energy saving, missile firing options increase - Situational awareness improvements. -Safety and operational efficiency is enhanced by dual-control local LOS Source: THALES http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio/Aerospace/Aerospace_Product_TopOwlForCombat
          Aircraft /
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 12 October 2013 16: 27 New
            +1
            ......................................
      2. Ramadan
        Ramadan 13 October 2013 13: 30 New
        0
        The cabin is good)
        The box is apparently automatic, as you can see only two gas and brake pedals))))
  5. Suroks
    Suroks 12 October 2013 09: 08 New
    -2
    Guys, and you saw the F-16 assembly shop one and a half kilometers long, this wretchedness does not please at all, and the panel is really old ...
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 12 October 2013 09: 23 New
      +6
      Do you know what budget the US Army has? So, their conveyors should not be surprised.
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 12 October 2013 13: 28 New
      +7
      Quote: Suroks
      and the panel is really old ...

      ... who whispered to you?
      Yes, do you know what the black-and-white panel is b / w?
      And our original color went.
      The fact that there are electromechanical and parametric display channels is a tribute to the well-deserved reliability of these systems (at least the systems of enemy electronic warfare systems will not work out). So you didn’t have to hear the words of the pilots, "these fucked-up electric watermelons." Indeed, modern watermelons and Boeing could not sit like the famous Tu-154 in the middle of the taiga on a helicopter field with completely failed equipment.
      1. both s69
        both s69 12 October 2013 14: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Rus2012
        Indeed, modern watermelons and Boeings could not sit like the famous Tu-154 in the middle of the taiga on a helicopter field with completely failed equipment

        That's why this carcass model has been flying for almost half a century!
        "Made in USSR", is a quality mark on VPK products and dual-use products! good
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 12 October 2013 17: 35 New
          +1
          Yeah, only the whole world has long been taking cars with EDSU.
        2. 0255
          0255 12 October 2013 17: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: both-with 69
          Quote: Rus2012
          Indeed, modern watermelons and Boeings could not sit like the famous Tu-154 in the middle of the taiga on a helicopter field with completely failed equipment

          That's why this carcass model has been flying for almost half a century!
          "Made in USSR", is a quality mark on VPK products and dual-use products! good

          Tu-154 flies only because there is no money for new planes sad Remember how much the Tu-154 was broken from old age
          1. lazy
            lazy 13 October 2013 04: 15 New
            0
            and how many Boeings especially 737 were broken from old age?
          2. aviator65
            aviator65 14 October 2013 23: 02 New
            0
            Remember how much the Tu-154 was broken from old age
            Yes, not from old age, but from the mess in the current civil aviation.
      2. aviator65
        aviator65 14 October 2013 23: 00 New
        0
        And then independently take off from it. good
    3. Avenger711
      Avenger711 12 October 2013 17: 34 New
      0
      Panel Su-33, and what else should it be?
    4. lazy
      lazy 13 October 2013 04: 14 New
      +2
      this "wretchedness" in the Soviet Union did 300 planes a year, not the size of the matter but its use
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 October 2013 09: 09 New
    +5
    Well done factory workers! During the flood, they themselves saved the plant, territories and everything else.
    Let more and with high quality do their job!
  7. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 12 October 2013 09: 15 New
    +2
    I would like to watch such photo stories more often. And most importantly, in the sky and more of such handsome menacing menacing ..! It would be somehow calmer in my soul ..
  8. Gregazov
    Gregazov 12 October 2013 09: 32 New
    +6
    If you believe Zadornov, then "wretched" means with God, that is, good. In my opinion, this panel is simply several times more expensive to manufacture than digital, and it works better due to its autonomy. Immediately all devices fail practically cannot. Even if there is no power, the magnetic compass will work.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 12 October 2013 17: 36 New
      +1
      Well, look at the Su-35 panel, there is a frisky minimum of fur there. appliances.
  9. Janis SU
    Janis SU 12 October 2013 09: 33 New
    +5
    Quote: marat1000
    The panel is certainly miserable ... belay


    The most important thing is functional and self-sufficient. You, dear, are accustomed to your Opel Record and think that the combat aircraft should have a panel from the car of your dreams - Honda Civic a la 2008. But, right word, why does a lion need a monkey tail?
  10. DesToeR
    DesToeR 12 October 2013 09: 54 New
    20
    I killed on the spot an inscription in English: SUKHOI. Of course, I understand that the concern, world trade, world recognition and all that. But are you Russian or who? Learn to respect yourself already and begin to show this respect, first of all, to your language!
    1. Vlad_Mir
      Vlad_Mir 12 October 2013 10: 17 New
      +1
      Marketing events! There is nothing to be done - the demand of the era!
    2. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 12 October 2013 11: 29 New
      +3
      Here it is - SUKHOI - I was also struck by the eye, sort of like a factory not in Russia, not GOOD!
      1. aviator65
        aviator65 14 October 2013 23: 20 New
        0
        I wonder how Pavel Osipovich himself would look at it, if he was alive now?
    3. Ramadan
      Ramadan 13 October 2013 13: 33 New
      +1
      And note, the flag of Russia is nowhere to be seen in the photographs, even by accident ...
  11. Platov
    Platov 12 October 2013 10: 07 New
    +1
    Beautiful photos. You won’t take such pictures on the phone. Most often, you would take such photos taken by a specialist.
  12. morpogr
    morpogr 12 October 2013 10: 25 New
    +2
    The main plant is working and aircraft are being built.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 12 October 2013 10: 47 New
    +3
    I would very much like to see the plant’s workshops during the last flood.
    And then scribblers crooked that everything flooded
  14. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 12 October 2013 11: 26 New
    +2
    When talking with pilots, almost everyone says that they do not care what kind of panel they would just work. In my opinion, money is being torn for modern bells and whistles, but the functionality of these things is doubtful, especially when the display fails. It's like in modern cars, everything that is possible is crammed, but whether this is necessary or not is another question.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 12 October 2013 17: 37 New
      +2
      And will you draw a tactical situation on "alarms"?
  15. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 12 October 2013 11: 41 New
    0
    Vlad_Mir SU
    Marketing events! There is nothing to be done - the demand of the era

    I can understand - in the storefront, advertising on the billboard, but - it's the same military factory, and even im.Komsomol.
    1. VAF
      VAF 12 October 2013 14: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: ia-ai00
      but - this is a military factory, and even named after Komsomol.


      In general plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin wink
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 12 October 2013 16: 53 New
        +1
        Well, excuse me, I was guided by the heading of the article -on the "Komsomol Aviation Plant", now I will know, thanks!
  16. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 12 October 2013 12: 02 New
    +2
    The photo story somehow ends sadly - in the last picture a sad, pensive specialist ...
    1. VAF
      VAF 12 October 2013 14: 08 New
      +8
      Quote: AlexVas44
      in the last picture a sad, thoughtful specialist ...


      The fact that it’s sad. It’s still half the trouble, if you don’t know, then we, in the Aviaprom, 80% of hard workers .. "sad" ... salaries. You understand .. not at all ... "from export contracts" wassat

      But AGE !!!!!! And what will happen in 5 years ??? That's right ... SHE will be ... such a big ..... W..OPA crying
  17. AVV
    AVV 12 October 2013 12: 18 New
    +3
    They are already finding fault with a good airplane! This is only an assembly! Name the best foreign analogue and compare all the characteristics, then we will draw conclusions !!!
  18. Flyers
    Flyers 12 October 2013 12: 39 New
    0
    A pensive specialist sits in the Su-33, but the assembly of the other aircraft shown is most likely the Su-30cm (judging by the rejected nozzles).
    1. cyberspace
      cyberspace 12 October 2013 13: 39 New
      +4
      Su-30SM assembled in Irkutsk, it is rather Su-35S - no PGO.
  19. Bongo
    Bongo 12 October 2013 12: 52 New
    +8
    The situation at the enterprise is not very simple, there is a serious personnel shortage caused by low wages. The ripper collector earns 20-25 TR, for a region with severe climatic conditions and high prices for food and essential goods it is not very much. From Komsomolsk there is a very serious outflow of the population. Production of military products at the plant is mainly for export.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 12 October 2013 15: 41 New
      +5
      To tighten salaries, well, it’s not the same critical costs. But what kind of impulse will give, what kind of return. It reminds me of installing a DZ on armored vehicles. The price of the issue is negligible interest, but the effect, the effect is considerable.
  20. guran
    guran 12 October 2013 13: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: Suroks
    one and a half kilometers long assembly shop F-16, this wretchedness does not please at all, and the panel is really old ...


    Does shop length mean anything? those. if it’s three kilometers long, like a slaughterhouse, is that even cooler? and how do you order workers to move around the workshop in wheelchairs?
    American workshops, as I recall, are located in a different climate, and how to heat one and a half kilometers in Komsomolsk in winter?

    The panel must be reliable in combat conditions. They said correctly, this is not an iPhone in the cabin.
  21. guran
    guran 12 October 2013 13: 21 New
    +6
    About the wretchedness of the SU panel. Only war will show hu from hu.
    Battle SU is not an iPhone or a glamorous raptor

    Here is the SU-25 (Rook) with a probably more wretched panel, fighting like a beast.

    Major A. Rybakov (the day before he had already received an anti-aircraft gun shell in the flap) reached the airfield on an airplane with one choked engine, filled with kerosene from broken tanks, a fragment cut out by fragments, a completely failed hydraulic system and an unreleased landing gear. Not a single device worked in the cockpit, and a pilot with a bloodshot face led the plane blindly, at the command of his partner.

    28 July 1987. An attack aircraft came to the base with a hole in the board, with a right engine smashed by a rocket, a fireball burned out of the fire compartment with a flame from the engine compartment, the electrical fixtures and power assemblies burned out, and the elevator control burned out at 95%. The fire continued until the landing itself, and yet - every cloud has a silver lining - the landing gear itself came out of a short circuit, and the aircraft was able to land.

    The Su-25 l-that P. Golubtsova rocket half torn off the tail, but the engines continued to work. The brakes failed, and after landing, the plane rolled out of the strip into the minefield, where the pilot had to wait for the sappers to get out. Nearly a quarter of the wing burst from another plane. On the plane of Lieutenant Burakov, the rocket knocked down almost the entire keel, and the pilot with great difficulty managed to land, controlling the course with the help of ailerons.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 12 October 2013 17: 44 New
      +1
      With a half wing and F-15 sat down.
      1. aviator65
        aviator65 14 October 2013 23: 07 New
        +1
        Once. And it is not clear for what reason.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 14 October 2013 23: 10 New
          +1
          An absolutely real story about how an Israeli pilot was able to land an F - 15 after a mid-air collision which resulted in a wing being torn off the plane.
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 14 October 2013 23: 18 New
            0
            .................................................
          2. aviator65
            aviator65 14 October 2013 23: 34 New
            +1
            Good, you see, pilot. Nice plane. Only in the same Afghanistan didn’t it take our people off, moreover, not as a result of a collision, but as a result of hits. At the same time, they managed to return to the base and land, without making a sensation out of it.
          3. svp67
            svp67 14 October 2013 23: 35 New
            +1
            Quote: Alex 241
            An absolutely real story about how an Israeli pilot was able to land an F - 15 after a mid-air collision which resulted in a wing being torn off the plane.

            When they do not spare money for the army and are preparing to fight seriously, as well as rigorous selection of candidates for pilots, while at the same time providing them with great guarantees and decent pay for their work, you can probably expect good pilots to serve there ...
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 14 October 2013 23: 38 New
              +2
              Our guys are no worse, even better!
              1. aviator65
                aviator65 14 October 2013 23: 40 New
                +1
                And who is arguing? drinks
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 14 October 2013 23: 50 New
                  +1
                  ......................................
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 14 October 2013 23: 58 New
                0
                Quote: Alex 241
                Our guys are no worse, even better!


                this is soooooo! I wouldn’t like to be inside this plane)) and by the way there were passengers or a training flight. by the way. who let them take off ... really it doesn’t beg the pilots skill ...
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 15 October 2013 00: 03 New
                  +1
                  Here is all the information .............
              3. svp67
                svp67 15 October 2013 00: 00 New
                0
                Quote: Alex 241
                Our guys are no worse, even better!

                Alexander, hi
                This is not even discussed ... since it is an AXIOM.
                But it would be nice if, in addition to the pleasure of flying, every pilot would still feel himself a better person. Well wouldn’t it hurt?
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 15 October 2013 00: 04 New
                  +1
                  Earrings this is not even discussed !!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 15 October 2013 00: 06 New
                    0
                    Quote: Alex 241
                    Earrings this is not even discussed !!!!!!!!!!!!!


                    QED drinks
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  23. Avenger711
    Avenger711 12 October 2013 17: 43 New
    +3
    They stuck a photo of the old Su-33 for repair and a bunch of "experts" rushed to talk about how good the mechanical panel is. Here is the Su-35S panel http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fighter/su35bm/su35bm-6.jpg 2 monitors.
  24. samoletil18
    samoletil18 12 October 2013 19: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: aszzz888
    Well done factory workers! During the flood, they themselves saved the plant, territories and everything else.
    Let more and with high quality do their job!


    Good comment good
  25. POCC
    POCC 13 October 2013 02: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: Rus2012
    Quote: Suroks
    and the panel is really old ...

    ... who whispered to you?
    Yes, do you know what the black-and-white panel is b / w?
    And our original color went.
    The fact that there are electromechanical and parametric display channels is a tribute to the well-deserved reliability of these systems (at least the systems of enemy electronic warfare systems will not work out). So you didn’t have to hear the words of the pilots, "these fucked-up electric watermelons." Indeed, modern watermelons and Boeing could not sit like the famous Tu-154 in the middle of the taiga on a helicopter field with completely failed equipment.

    good good correctly electromagnetic weapons have not yet been canceled
  26. Takashi
    Takashi 13 October 2013 08: 49 New
    +3
    1. In the first picture, the backs of Pekarsh and Poghosyan are clearly visible.
    therefore, the pictures were taken by the person accompanying them, a photo correspondent.
    Nothing secret :) :):
    Yes, and the planes are old, most likely repair. I can assume - workshop 7 or 55.

    2. What nonsense to write like this:
    "Well done factory workers! During the flood, they themselves saved the plant, territories and everything else.
    Let them do their job more and with high quality! "-

    Fucking Plant is far from the Amur, the maximum that he had was the flooding of the sewage system at the old workshops. Factory workers themselves - did not go out in cars in an organized manner to rescue their factory and city. The maximum that they did was to allocate heavy equipment (of which they have units).
    Do not write idiocy.
  27. datur
    datur 13 October 2013 12: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: honest Jew
    Somehow not a lot !!! Something is not enough in the hangars of aircraft !!! And where are the words of Rogozin about hundreds of aircraft !!!

    you as a Jew just got and ALL !!!! laughing
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 13 October 2013 16: 10 New
      0
      And suddenly, HE is very concerned about the defense ability of Russia, and is very worried, suddenly there aren’t enough aircraft ...
  28. nsbcom
    nsbcom 13 October 2013 23: 34 New
    -1
    Very interesting article, thanks to the author!