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Russian language, officials come to your rescue ...

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The impressive decline in the popularity of the Russian language in the world is recorded by various organizations and departments. According to the Deputy Minister of Education and Science, Veniamin Kaganov, if 20-30 years ago the number of Russian speakers in the world was about 380 million people, today it is already 260 million. According to the same Kaganov, by the year 2033 this number could be reduced by another 20 million people. To stop the development of this negative trend for the entire Russian-speaking community, the Russian government is going to take certain measures. What will these measures be - let's look in more detail.


If you believe the words of the deputy minister of the Ministry of Education and Science, the Council on the Russian language will soon be created, which will include representatives of various scientific and educational organizations, employees of the main foreign policy department, the Ministry of Culture, employees of Rossotrudnichestvo, and a group of parliamentarians. The Russian Council will be headed by the Deputy Chairman of the Government Olga Golodets (a graduate of the Faculty of Economics of Moscow State University 1984 of the year).

The main task of the council being created is to coordinate the activities of those organizations that promote the Russian language inside and outside the country. It is planned to allocate about 1,5 billion rubles from the state budget for the functioning of the council (the amount of funding of the council for the future has not yet been determined).

In general, the idea itself looks positive, because with an increase in people who speak Russian abroad, the scale of “peaceful residency” will increase, let's say, in the same direction of soft power (protecting force, or at least taking into account Russian interests), about which representatives of Russian state authorities often speak recently. With the increase in the number of Russians who speak a high level of language, the overall level of national education will increase.

Russian language, officials come to your rescue ...


However, in reality, things may turn out to be far from as simple as the same Minobr describes. The creation of a council on the Russian language under the government of the Russian Federation under the present conditions does not guarantee the spread of the Russian language throughout the world and its return to the positions lost in recent years. Why not guarantee? To answer this question, it is enough to refer to the recent stories.

From 7 December 1995 to 23 May 1997 under the Russian President, the Russian Language Council already existed as an advisory body. The tasks of the presidential council of the 1995-1997 model included the following: from making suggestions and recommendations on state support of the Russian language to expanding the use of language in international and international communication. In addition, the work was to be carried out to popularize the Russian language through the media and work in the field of scientific language studies. A federal official with the rank of deputy prime minister, Yury Yarov, was also appointed chairman of the presidential council.

In May 1997, Boris Yeltsin issues Decree No. 519, according to which the Council on the Russian Language under the President is abolished.

The reason for the abolition is voiced as follows:
in order to improve the system of advisory and advisory bodies under the President of the Russian Federation.


It seems that there were no other options for improving the said system, apart from the dissolution of the Russian language council (along with a number of other councils) ... However, it turned out that immediately after the dissolution, the council had to earn again in the reformatted version but only immediately, as usual, did not work. Only on the last day of 1997 leaving at that time, Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin recalls (or reminds someone) of the council and approves the governmental decree No. 1674, which says that the Council on the Russian language is already created under the government of the Russian Federation. The goals of the “new” council were the same as the goals of the presidential council that ordered to live long. As a result, the changes affected only the full name of the council and its leading person. He became this leading person of the next vice-premier, part-time Minister of Labor and Social Development Oleg Sysuev.

The Council of the Russian language existed under the government of the Russian Federation until July 26 2004. During this time, attempts were made to implement new educational projects (including in the Internet environment). But, perhaps, the main thing that remembers the work of the council was a kind of confrontation with the so-called spelling commission of the Russian Academy of Sciences, which in 2001-2002 decided to reform the Russian language. Members of the spelling commission took the initiative to “modernize” the Russian language. To do this, they offered new spellings of words. Here are some suggestions of the spelling commission:

introduce additional use of the letter "ъ" in words. Examples: artyarmarka, warlord, children, etc .;

allow the use of the words "parachute" and "brochure" through "y". The reason for this “innovation” was called quite interesting: in these words, many people already write “u”;

do not write the letter "d" in the words "stayer", "conveyor, etc.


In general, as you can see, the work is titanic, proposals, too ... But all these proposals were cut at the root by Lyudmila Putin, who by that time had become the president of the Russian Language Support Fund. The first lady said that the reform was inopportune, and that all the “brochures” and “parachutes” should be put on the back burner ... The Russian Language Council did not think for long for which side to take. He took the side of the first lady - the spelling of the "art fair" was stopped ...
In July, 2004, and this council ceased to exist.

How much money was spent on “popularizing” the Russian language over the years of the boisterous activities of the Soviets under the president and the government, but not to say exactly, but it can be assumed that the sums were considerable. In this regard, the question arises: why is it that the situation with the popularization of the Russian language was not the best for all these years? Why has the number of people studying Russian in the CIS countries decreased significantly? Why is the level of proficiency in Russian so sharply dropped in Russia? Well, from the category “you can't think up on purpose: why was the Russian Language Council under the Russian government dissolved a couple of months after the start of the broadcasts of the program“ House-2 ”- the main“ popularizer ”of the Russian language? .. Relay, something like that ...

In general, with the Russian language councils in power, Russia lived for nine years (since 1995), and then lived the same amount without advice. The fall in popularity of the Russian language, and the level of proficiency in the language, was observed both during the existence of these councils and after their abolition ...

Now here are the “new” ideas, new means ... Of course, I would like the project to start working effectively after the third attempt. I would like the significance of the Russian language to become higher in Russia and in the world. I wish that his study was not reduced to a formality. But ... Is it necessary for this to necessarily create a new state structure and pour another billions into it? Is it really impossible to support those who are already working to popularize the Russian language, those who are doing everything possible that depends on them? Indeed, in this direction there is enough of both organizations and individual enthusiasts. Do they need to coordinate their work ”? (“Help” and “coordinate” - we have completely different concepts). So after all, there is already at least one “coordination” organization. "Skolkovo" is called. The organization is there, the money for its work is the same, but scientific breakthroughs and popularization of national science cannot wait ... I do not want to follow the path of pessimistic reasoning, but there is an opinion that the same parsley will be with the new council.

And if so, then it is worth looking for other options for popularizing the Russian language - at least without exploiting the “labor” of officials - you look, and the funds allocated will go in the right direction.
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  1. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 11 October 2013 08: 47
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    The Russian language will be taught if Russia itself is an attractive country. If she has a culture interesting to other countries, a prosperous population and economy. And true freedom for people.
    1. os9165
      os9165 11 October 2013 09: 07
      +4
      Golden words
      1. starshina78
        starshina78 11 October 2013 20: 10
        +3
        I would not consider such an expression "golden words". Based on the above commentary that "everyone will learn the Russian language only when ...", it turns out that everyone learns English because England, the United States, speak English (the American dialect is light English) , are the most attractive countries, free, they have a culture of interest to everyone, a thriving population and economy. Well, one can agree with England that it has its own culture, history, which cannot be said about the United States. There is no culture of its own, and history is full of "white spots" (this is done on purpose to remove the mention of certain moments in history, because of which the United States may not look very good). Yes, and the economy in the United States and England is not very good. The US debt is astronomical, and the country lives on the printing press. the only thing there is a lot is freedom - if you want to be gay - be it, start a family, children, the church and that already crowns the blue and pink. And the English language itself is poor. they cannot describe nature as it can be described in Russian. It's not for nothing that the British learn Russian in order to read our classics in the original. Russian is probably the only language that allows you to speak in a way that cannot be said in another language. Although officials and politicians began to litter the Russian language with English words in Russian transcription. Hence, such phrases as "university campus", "consensus" and other rubbish appear in the reports of officials.
    2. SolomonSS
      SolomonSS 11 October 2013 09: 23
      18
      Sorry, I don’t understand something, i.e. Russian culture, with its holidays, dances, songs, tales, epics, this whole identity - is it not interesting !? But American culture, McDonald's, the years of slavery, Coca-Cola, rap and pop (translation of songs that we don’t even think about) is an interesting culture !!! ???

      True freedom is also in question, what is considered true freedom, the choice of car and its color? Or go eat at the McDuck or CFS? buy jeans or pants, silver iphone or gold? This is not freedom, this is marketing ... those overestimated values ​​that are being drawn into us from TVs and computers. This is not freedom. In the same America or Europe, there is no freedom other than that which the state gives you. Freedom and democracy, a sweet song for people's ears, under this slogan there is a change of realities in the minds of people.

      I agree that we need a country in which there will be a high standard of living, education, medicine, so that people feel that they are protected by law and much more. And we have to work on it. And not over our culture, so that it would be interesting for someone there.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 October 2013 09: 37
        +8
        We need to make a distinction between simple and advanced, there are books in English, there are interesting scientific articles about the latest achievements, there are great films that are better to watch in the original, finally there are people in the states and the UK who are interesting to communicate with, English is not only slavery and McDonald’s, like Russian it’s not only balalaika vodka and bears.
        1. SolomonSS
          SolomonSS 11 October 2013 09: 47
          +8
          Communication with people and the culture of the people are two different things. No matter how you twist. Scientific achievements are also not culture, films are culture, but to watch a film of any director from any country you do not need to go to it.
          The culture of a country is what has developed historically, its way of life, its cultural monuments, in general it is a vast totality of ethnicity, people's lives, history. And to invent something "interesting" for foreigners is stupid, if we do not respect ourselves and our culture, who needs us?
          We need to keep and value what we have and do, strive for the best that is needed.
          1. T80UM1
            T80UM1 11 October 2013 09: 55
            +2
            I agree. Only culture is not only historical monuments and history. It is also a tradition, lifestyle, morality, etc. So now in all CIS countries, Anglo-Saxon culture is very popular due to cultural sources like films, programs, magazines, music and science.
            1. Aryan
              Aryan 11 October 2013 10: 09
              +6
              But the Russian mat does not give up their positions
              Can Russian diplomacy be transferred to him?
              to specifically understand bully
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              2. T80UM1
                T80UM1 11 October 2013 10: 57
                +1
                As for the mat I agree))) I use it myself))
          2. zvereok
            zvereok 11 October 2013 23: 48
            -2
            Quote: SolomonSS
            The country's culture is what happened historically, its way of life, its cultural monuments, in general it is an extensive totality of ethnic group, people's lives, and history.


            What do pyramids have to do with Arabs populating these territories now. Culture must live, and it will live, as long as people identical to this culture have the opportunity to create and be happy.
        2. Dubkovav08
          Dubkovav08 11 October 2013 11: 02
          +3
          Who is the advanced? Especially outstanding people, or lovers of trinkets, or what are they called gadgets? Is it true that "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is better to watch in the original?
          1. T80UM1
            T80UM1 11 October 2013 11: 10
            +6
            For example, Nobel laureates in physics or chemistry or economics, for example, university professors, for example, various talented actors and directors, of whom there are much more than in Russia by an order of magnitude. There are also enough lovers of trinkets and gadgets in the Russian Federation. It is true that "Romeo and Juliet" in the original is better to watch or "The King Speaks" or "Gone with the Wind" or "Gangs of New York"
        3. Dejavu
          Dejavu 11 October 2013 12: 22
          +8
          English is an order of magnitude lighter than the Great and Mighty and unfortunately English has almost turned into Esperanto, used as neutral throughout the world.

          The main motivation for learning a language, one way or another, has always been the opportunity to benefit from oneself. For the sake of studying culture or "filmmaking" to learn a language - not everyone will. But if in a competition for a good job you are chosen for knowledge of some Swahili, then the expediency of studying it will be obvious. For the Russian language to become popular in the world, it must be necessary when applying for a job on the territory of our Country. Unfortunately, burgers today are much more attractive to people than ballet.
      2. domokl
        domokl 11 October 2013 10: 23
        +5
        Quote: SolomonSS
        I don’t understand something, i.e. Russian culture, with its holidays, dances, songs, tales, epics, this whole identity - this is not interesting!

        Alas, this is only one of the world cultures, nothing more. When Tolstoy, Yesenin, Mayakovsky, Pasternak and many other great writers, poets, artists, artists worked in Russia, a huge number of people in the world learned the language just to read the originals works.
        The attitude to our culture was very revealingly expressed in Mordovian grandmothers ... A sort of show project.
        Quote: SolomonSS
        Freedom and democracy, a sweet song for people's ears, under this slogan there is a change of realities in the minds of people.

        It’s stupid to argue about this in general. In our country, freedom is understood in many ways as freedom from duties. In the West, freedom is just the obligation to be a citizen and comply with laws. The topic is bottomless and you can’t sound it right in the comments.
        Quote: SolomonSS
        . And not over our culture, so that it would be interesting for someone there.

        A little remark ... The film Stalingrad has just appeared on the screens. Go to the cinema. There are queues. This is after a lot of films on this topic and even with the same name. Perhaps this film will prompt some kind of John or Catherine to find out what is Russia, what kind of people live there, what language do they speak ...
        1. SolomonSS
          SolomonSS 11 October 2013 10: 31
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          John or Catherine to find out what Russia is, what people live there, what language they speak ...


          It may be pushed, but they, as we look in the translation.
      3. Committee
        Committee 11 October 2013 12: 31
        0
        These are the real golden words.
    3. seller trucks
      seller trucks 11 October 2013 10: 50
      +4
      It smells like another cut, I generally trust the Russian Ministry of Education a little, and then there is the creation of another dubious "council".
      I cried and received the following data,

      Veniamin Kaganova uses data from Wikipedia, for me it’s such a very dubious resource, according to the reliability of the information.

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%8F%D


      0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA_%D0%B2_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B5#.D0.9C.D0.B8.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.B2.


      D0.BE.D0.B9_.D1.81.D1.82.D0.B0.D1.82.D1.83.D1.81


      Next, Russian (native to 144 million people).
      Russian is used for communication by people in 33 countries of the world, including in 7 of which the language has official status. 4.8% of sites on the Internet use Russian.


      http://basetop.ru/top-15-samyih-rasprostranennyih-yazyikov-mira/

      and here is another source:

      The Russian language has replaced Spanish and took the third place in terms of prevalence in the world, 500 million people are already speaking it


      http://vz.ru/news/2012/10/26/604507.html

      I don’t know about you, but I have already drawn conclusions
    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 11 October 2013 10: 58
      0
      What does it mean to appear? We are the most intellectual and cultural nation on the ball.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 October 2013 11: 14
        +6
        You will not praise yourself, no one will praise (C)
        1. Reasonable, 2,3
          Reasonable, 2,3 11 October 2013 11: 41
          0
          AND YOU AGAINST ?.
          1. T80UM1
            T80UM1 11 October 2013 11: 45
            +5
            They were the most cultural and intellectual nation in the USSR. So it’s more correct.
            1. Reasonable, 2,3
              Reasonable, 2,3 11 October 2013 12: 04
              0
              I WAS BORN IN THE USSR AND I GOT THE BEST EDUCATION IN THE WORLD.
              1. SolomonSS
                SolomonSS 11 October 2013 12: 39
                +4
                Some strange went CITIZENS OF RUSSIA (Russian is not to be called)! They themselves love to humiliate and condemn, as if we are dumber or we don’t have a culture, and in general everything is better and everywhere is better except in Russia. May be enough? If you want to do better, at least do not spit yourself under your feet, bring a piece of paper to the trash, do not pass by the gray mass when you see something. And at the expense of the Russian language, does it really matter who learns Russian abroad or does not learn how much they speak it, the main thing is that WE-PEOPLE respect each other!
                1. Reasonable, 2,3
                  Reasonable, 2,3 11 October 2013 13: 23
                  0
                  I can’t even say against.
                2. michajlo
                  michajlo 11 October 2013 15: 53
                  +3
                  SolomonSS SU Today, 12:39 PM ↑
                  Some strange went CITIZENS OF RUSSIA (Russian is not to be called)! They themselves love to humiliate and condemn, as if we are dumber or we don’t have a culture, and in general everything is better and everywhere is better except in Russia. May be enough?


                  Hello Sergey!

                  With your remark or appeal to start completely on my own, I agree.

                  Add also from myself that it is high time, besides the "sweet drooling" imposed on us by the Jude MSG at the sight of any "bullshit" written in English in the West, to remember, promote and widely use all that wealth, knowledge, scientific works written in RUSSIAN by all the peoples of the USSR !!!

                  I still remember and spit, at the name of the former associate professor (now a professor, of course, from a God-chosen nation) at the Department of Children's Diseases No. 1 at the Chernivtsi Medical Institute (1985-xxxx), which, after arriving from Kiev to provincial Bukovina, immediately said that ALL Soviet medicine is "all this crap", and the TRUE and HELP for the sick are only in American and English journals and books (on medicine). On this occasion, even then, I, still a completely "green" children's anesthesiologist, more than once had working and personal "e.e. exchanges of views", though with the full support of me !? (and not an associate professor?) from the head physician and chief medical officer ...

                  A worship of the West since those "s * any" 80 years on the territory of the entire post-USSR, it continues to this day ...

                  I have one simple sentence for you:

                  - And here, when communicating, as much as possible, use RUSSIAN words and terms.

                  For example, instead of "comments", say "Remarks", "Notes", etc.

                  And leave English / foreign words ONLY for the IT field, and especially mechanical engineering, metallurgy and others, where Russian designations of German or French origin 100 or 200 years ago are written in Cyrillic and have long been "ours".
              2. Qazaq
                Qazaq 11 October 2013 18: 18
                -3
                Reasonable, well, Yo mine. Well, that wasn’t - THE BEST IN THE WORLD OF HIGHER EDUCATION. Did not have!!!! Well, scoop - YES. And the best higher education is NO, NO and NO. - I wanted to learn English all my Kazakh youth - well, there were nowhere in owls. stores simple dictionaries. English-Russian or Russian-English dictionaries. Not a bulo !!!! Like - you, Kazakh, sit and know Russian, and then, it's not your business. Well, I know Russian - so what ??? I am not at all of those who are for Russian and Russian. I rather the opposite.
                1. Was mammoth
                  Was mammoth 11 October 2013 21: 27
                  +3
                  Quote: Qazaq
                  ... I wanted to learn English all my Kazakh youth ...

                  For some reason, I managed to learn English by myself. A self-instruction book was carried with him every day and read everywhere - on the bus, at the bus stop .... He could read quite freely, but did not learn to speak. There was no practice, and at one time it was somewhat deaf. True, I have now forgotten the order.
                  Does Russian language bother you? And I always thought that knowing another language is great! And a huge advantage.
    5. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 11 October 2013 13: 44
      +3
      About that and the speech that not slogans need to restore order, but a broom. it’s worth looking for other options for popularizing the Russian language — at least without exploiting the “work” of officials — you look, and the allocated funds will go in the right direction.
      (C)
    6. Uncle
      Uncle 11 October 2013 14: 41
      +2
      Quote: Kibalchish
      The Russian language will be taught if Russia itself is an attractive country.

      But what is not attractive? From foreigners of all stripes is already hunting! Yes, let the chebureks not learn our language and knock home, we did not call them!
    7. ioann1
      ioann1 11 October 2013 18: 01
      0


      Without the support of the President by the people in the struggle for the sovereignty of Russia, we will approach a disaster. Look who divides the people and the President? In whose interests does the liberal government work? Who substitutes the leg of Russia on the path to its prosperity. Only in a sovereign country is it possible to achieve great success. With the current dominance of the United States through its agents in Russia, this cannot be done.
      1. Evrepid
        Evrepid 11 October 2013 20: 58
        +1
        How many times do we see a patchwork quilt card.
        A lot of people consider the Russian Federation a small piece of it, proudly calling and contrasting it with all the other pieces.

        A lot of people openly express that this little piece feeds everyone else, but these people are the very fifth column of separatists that must be fought.
    8. Qazaq
      Qazaq 11 October 2013 18: 11
      -2
      I agree. For all 100500. But that's how it is? You finally become fascists - and who wants to deal with the fascists? NONE.
    9. 225chay
      225chay 11 October 2013 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: Kibalchish
      The Russian language will be taught if Russia itself is an attractive country. If she has a culture interesting to other countries, a prosperous population and economy. And true freedom for people.

      Right!
      And further! Could it be that Russian people were finally involved in the reforms of the Russian language, and not economists, jellies Yarins Yeltsins, Sysuyevs Kagalovs and others ...
  2. Denis
    Denis 11 October 2013 08: 49
    +6
    Deputy Prime Minister Olga Golodets (graduate) will head the Russian Language Council ECONOMIC Faculty of Moscow State University 1984)
    Kirdyk language, these Duma parasites will only depict the work
    Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems specialists in this philologists, not different managers
    1. Kolya
      Kolya 11 October 2013 09: 52
      +1
      where the official is given the helm to guide national interests, there are krants.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 11 October 2013 11: 50
      +1
      Russian language, officials come to your rescue ...

      I'd rather hope for Chip and Dale ...
    3. Starfish
      Starfish 11 October 2013 14: 05
      +4
      veniamin kaganov, olga hungry man - everything is immediately clear and understandable. nothing to discuss
  3. T80UM1
    T80UM1 11 October 2013 08: 56
    +2
    A complex language, therefore unpopular, is also taught in order to enrich culturally or mentally from the host country, and now there is nothing to be enriched from today's Russia.
    1. Gennady1973
      Gennady1973 11 October 2013 09: 10
      +1
      I disagree. "spiritually or mentally get rich from the host country." America speaks English and what can I learn from the "parent" and "native" of this language, except for nasty things in our direction. The language is adopted for world communication because there are many more Russian speakers. And the decline occurred that the countries of the former Union stopped learning it, but still they do not go for spiritual "enrichment", either for work or for permanent residence without even knowing a couple of phrases in Russian.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 October 2013 09: 21
        +3
        Science, many scientific articles in English, when I wrote my dissertation I had to read a lot of articles, culture films, for example, you can say anything about Hollywood, but 20% of movies and TV shows are the best in the world and it’s interesting to watch them in the original, of course it’s spiritually hard to get rich, but there are examples, for example, their attitude to work (they know how to work), responsibility for their words and actions of the leaders of many companies and politicians (which is not in Russia), a constant desire for excellence (instead of envy, they try to be and do better). Compared to our professors, their professors at universities are a cut above, more flexible to changing conditions and more progressive. For example, I know 2 languages: Russian (native) and English (learned). Well, as for the nasty things, there’s nothing to boast about in Russia now, usually those who lose and give up (bend) are disregarded and put down further.
    2. The gentleman
      The gentleman 11 October 2013 09: 35
      +3
      Quote: T80UM1
      A complex language, therefore unpopular, is also taught in order to enrich culturally or mentally from the host country, and now there is nothing to be enriched from today's Russia.

      I agree, difficult, but at least write correctly and without mistakes, after all, you need to go to different forums where today's youth are rewriting ... so there is no one "razbirezza". It is necessary to start and control from schools and for such spelling is severely punished.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 October 2013 09: 40
        +2
        What sense to punish? From under the stick they work and understand much worse than for the idea. And the idea of ​​modern youth is the idea of ​​the West. If the language of the host country itself is unpopular, then how can it be popular abroad.
      2. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 11 October 2013 18: 31
        +2
        Quote: Gentleman
        Quote: T80UM1
        A complex language, therefore unpopular, is also taught in order to enrich culturally or mentally from the host country, and now there is nothing to be enriched from today's Russia.

        I agree, difficult, but at least write correctly and without mistakes, after all, you need to go to different forums where today's youth are rewriting ... so there is no one "razbirezza". It is necessary to start and control from schools and for such spelling is severely punished.

        It's funny you write about youth forums. It seems to me that there are not many young people on our forum. But with literacy just seams. And okay if they were typos - no - conscious mistakes. Perhaps this is the result of the best education in the world, as one commentator wrote. And in general, when you talk about something, you need to know. Well, or sign - they say, in my opinion. And it’s like in the song: “I don’t know such a country” You might think that the one who sang it knew many other countries from his own experience, and not from newspapers. And your example is not very successful - it's just "Albanian" language.
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 11 October 2013 10: 13
      +4
      Quote: T80UM1
      Complicated language, therefore unpopular,

      Aha
      "The Russian language is very difficult. For example, the words 'protection' and 'protection' are synonyms, and 'law enforcement' and 'human rights' bodies are antonyms." (from)
      And what? Is Chinese lighter? But they teach, and more and more!
      I can’t say that the language is unpopular. In the former countries of the USSR they do it in such a way as to tear peoples apart, but in the countries of the world they study it very much, especially if they come to study with us. And scientists, businessmen with their own interest, also try to study. Russia will restore its power - everyone will learn! The main thing, during this time, is to preserve really RUSSIAN LANGUAGE among the youth, and not vulgar slang.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 October 2013 10: 55
        0
        Chinese is also not popular, not all Chinese know it. But English is very popular, because simple, as one of my professor KIS strategy keep it simple said. Now in the CIS countries they learn more English, but speak Russian.
      2. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 11 October 2013 18: 39
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: T80UM1
        Complicated language, therefore unpopular,

        Aha
        "The Russian language is very difficult. For example, the words 'protection' and 'protection' are synonyms, and 'law enforcement' and 'human rights' bodies are antonyms." (from)
        And what? Is Chinese lighter? But they teach, and more and more!
        I can’t say that the language is unpopular. In the former countries of the USSR they do it in such a way as to tear peoples apart, but in the countries of the world they study it very much, especially if they come to study with us. And scientists, businessmen with their own interest, also try to study. Russia will restore its power - everyone will learn! The main thing, during this time, is to preserve really RUSSIAN LANGUAGE among the youth, and not vulgar slang.

        A small clarification - in this case, it is not military power that is important, but economic and scientific. English became popular when the center of science and business moved to America. Now if you do not read English in science, there is nothing to do. Even European medical journals are published in English
    4. zao74
      zao74 11 October 2013 10: 14
      +1
      You, my friend, do not know how to see wealth, and therefore you cannot enrich yourself. Griboedov read ...
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 October 2013 10: 52
        +1
        Read the post, "modern Russia" is not the Soviet Union and not Tsarist Russia, what can be rich in modern Russia? all past sources have already been translated into most languages. Therefore, it is not necessary for people to learn Russian when you can read "war and peace" in English.
  4. domokl
    domokl 11 October 2013 08: 58
    +7
    The popularity of the Russian language falls simply because it became only for internal use. During the Soviet Union, friendship houses were created in the West, cultural events, concerts, exhibitions were held. It was Russian culture.
    Now, even in Russia, in any city, even signs on shops in Latin. It is considered bad form if the company is called in Russian or without LTD ...
    The development of cultural and economic ties will lead to the popularization of our language. See how the Chinese learn. Almost all border regions not only speak the spoken language, but also study our culture in schools.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 11 October 2013 10: 28
      +6
      I agree. I need a law to protect the Russian language. Zhirik, for all its inadequacy, introduced a bill to protect the Language.
      http://www.dv-reclama.ru/blogi/redactor/29663/ zakon_o_zashchite_russkogo_yazyka_
      polnyy_tekst_zakonoproekta_predlagaemogo_ldpr_chtoby_ne_bylo_domys /

      In France, this was adopted in 1994. In Poland, since 1999, a law has been enacted to protect the Polish language, which prohibits the use of foreign words that have Polish counterparts. I really want my children to speak their native language, and not slang from a mixture of English-Russian-Tarabar.
    2. Dober
      Dober 11 October 2013 14: 29
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      It is considered bad form if the company is called in Russian or without LTD ...
      Now, even in Russia, in any city, even signs on shops in Latin.

      Here's something, and the signs are this husk, swept away by a light gust of breeze. This "problem" was in the last century, and even earlier -
      "But what a disgusting bureaucratic language! Based on that situation ... on the one hand ... on the other hand - and all this unnecessarily." Nevertheless, "and" to the extent "the officials composed. I read and spit."
      / Russian writer A.P. Chekhov /

      "To use a foreign word when there is a Russian word equivalent to it is to offend both common sense and common taste."
      / V. Belinsky /

      "New words of foreign origin are being introduced into the Russian press incessantly and often completely unnecessarily, and - what is most offensive - these harmful exercises are practiced in the very bodies where the Russian nationality and its peculiarities stand most ardently."
      / Nikolai Semenovich Leskov /

      But later there was "The Most Reading Country", with hundreds of thousands of libraries, and "one class size" schools. The language is not dead!
      You can kill him not by inaction, but by "active help" ...
  5. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 11 October 2013 08: 59
    +6
    If bureaucrats are indignant for the Russian language, then gentlemen, I dare to assure you that in 20 years we will speak English. Almost everything that all sorts of advice did there has the opposite effect on what should be achieved.
    1. hommer
      hommer 11 October 2013 13: 01
      +5
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      If for the Russian language indignant bureaucrats


      I agree. And not only in linguistics.
      If a business needs to fail, it must be entrusted to officials!
      Examples are the mass. And all because they do not bear personal responsibility for their work.
    2. Dimy4
      Dimy4 11 October 2013 21: 36
      +1
      If we take bureaucrats for our language, then it is unlikely that we will stop talking at all.
  6. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 11 October 2013 09: 01
    11
    The popularization of the Russian language should go on a wide front, and not only in literature but in general in economics and politics.
    Take a simple example of advertising.
    To begin with, to ban advertising in a foreign language on the territory of RUSSIA in principle.
    All products manufactured in RUSSIA or under licenses from RUSSI should be marked in Russian.
    Further push the training centers of the Russian language abroad wherever it is required,
    Open new TV shows, radio in Russian.
    An active position on this front supported by the state is the key to success.
    1. Denis
      Denis 11 October 2013 09: 46
      +2
      Quote: Lech from our city
      To begin with, to prohibit advertising in a foreign language in the territory of RUSSIA in principle
      And where to get menchandisers, managers and all kinds of marketing?
      1. Lech from our city
        Lech from our city 11 October 2013 09: 48
        +7
        menchandisers, managers and all kinds of marketing?
        How the essence of the profession was perverted - these are ordinary traders, barkers, just merchants.
        1. pahom54
          pahom54 12 October 2013 09: 43
          +1
          For managers in Russia there has always been a definition: MANAGING. The very word itself spoke and determined the essence of the activity of this person.
          I forgot, I once came across a modern definition of a cleaning lady, and I didn’t meet him anymore, but the point is that she, too, was somehow like merchants ... a digger was named. Oh, mummies, us ... smiling !!!
    2. zao74
      zao74 11 October 2013 10: 19
      -4
      First, learn to write without errors ...
    3. USMC
      USMC 11 October 2013 22: 58
      +2
      Quote: Lech from our city
      The popularization of the Russian language should go on a wide front, and not only in literature but in general in economics and politics.
      Take a simple example of advertising.
      To begin with, to ban advertising in a foreign language on the territory of RUSSIA in principle.
      All products manufactured in RUSSIA or under licenses from RUSSI should be marked in Russian.
      Further push the training centers of the Russian language abroad wherever it is required,
      Open new TV shows, radio in Russian.
      An active position on this front supported by the state is the key to success.


      and why when in Ukraine they introduced a resolution that it is only necessary to show films in cinemas with Ukrainian voice acting, were you all making noise about violations, invasion, etc. ??? double standards as always .....
  7. anip
    anip 11 October 2013 09: 04
    +2
    allow the use of the words "parachute" and "brochure" through "y". The reason for this “innovation” was called quite interesting: in these words, many people already write “u”;

    do not write the letter "d" in the words "stayer", "conveyor, etc.

    Yeah, but still it was necessary to introduce such innovations:
    Instead of "pretty" write "sipOtic", instead of "in any way" - "not how", instead of "nothing" - "not what", instead of "rocking" - "rocking", etc. etc. And what, after all, this is how the majority writes. And it would be fine, the deputies wrote like that, otherwise they also write on topwar in articles and comments. O_o
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 11 October 2013 09: 21
      +8
      A very relevant topic.
      Good advice from visitors, but in my opinion First of all, you need to start with yourself.You read some comments and your hair stands on end. We read not only in the vastness of Russia and the CIS countries, but all over the world. And what do we see, obscene expressions, obscene expressions, distortions of the Russian language, sometimes it comes to spelling in spelling. our site is also a conductor for the popularization of the Russian language. How do you think reading the comments of individual visitors will the forum enjoy success?! The answer is clear too.
      Further, the leadership of the country had a hand in creating, for example, TV RT, a significant and positive fact, but let's look at which audience is primarily designed, English-speaking, Arabic-speaking and what about the CIS countries. The omission is visible with the naked eye and in my opinion there is something to think about.
      1. Lech from our city
        Lech from our city 11 October 2013 09: 28
        +2
        TV RT is a single share and has little effect on the situation.
        There must be a comprehensive one can say aggressive policy in this matter.
        Of course, checkmate is bad, but this is our personality traits.
        Nevertheless, it is possible to carry out successful actions, for example, launching a satellite to a country advertising Russian inscriptions.
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 11 October 2013 09: 33
          +2
          Quote: Lech from our city
          TV RT is a single share and has little effect on the situation

          Quote: Lech from our city
          There must be a comprehensive one can say aggressive policy in this matter.


          all right colleague. hi
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 11 October 2013 10: 20
          +3
          Quote: Lech from our city
          Of course, checkmate is bad, but this is our personality traits.

          I disagree! In this case, everything depends on upbringing. If children are taught that the use of a mat is a sign of weakness and lack of willpower, that it is indecent, that it is unworthy of a man, especially in the presence of girls, women ... then you can very much even be stopped. Well, girls do the same. Teach that only "indecent women" use mat in their speech. That such people are not allowed into a good house, that such people are despised, etc. There will be a result.
          1. Lech from our city
            Lech from our city 11 October 2013 11: 03
            -2
            I do not agree with you.
            I studied the history of the mat - I’ll tell you a cognitive thing and there is a huge number of revolutions of the mat in different expressions.
            In general, this is part of our folklore and culture within reasonable limits of course.
            And imagine our language without it, it will become like a sawdust of no smell or taste, only sawdust.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 11 October 2013 09: 25
      +8
      There is no need to look for errors from others. Look at the language of some users of this site - "bubble", "finally", "smiled", "grandmother", "
      show-off "and much more. For some, obscene language has become the norm. Your grandchildren will no longer understand Pushkin, Tyutchev and Dostoevsky.

      1. dimon-media
        dimon-media 11 October 2013 11: 29
        +3
        Quote: xetai9977
        Look at the language of some users of this site - "bubble", "finally", "smiled", "grandmother", "

        well yes. And also rzhunimagu, wallowing in patsulom,, pet, novonakhi laughing
        It would be funny if it weren’t so sad. This is how our youth speaks. When I go to some kind of forum where the vast majority of visitors are young people (up to 18-20 years old) I confess, I can’t read, because I don’t understand the meaning. Punctuation marks are completely absent. don't even put dots. There is no spelling as such. As they say, they write. Of course, I myself was a Threesome in Russian, but at least I try not to spoil the language with stupid slang and not allow in the word bread 4 errors. Otherwise the word beer it will turn out.
        1. Lech from our city
          Lech from our city 11 October 2013 11: 40
          0
          rzhunimagu, wallowing in patsulom,

          But have mercy on what these words have to do with obscenities; it’s just a warped Russian language, it just sucks, as modern youth say.
          Let’s still separate the flies from the cutlets.
          A person who knows the Russian language can express his thought or his emotional state in completely different ways, this also applies to plumbers and professors.
          In a state of stress, I'm 99 percent sure many of the members of the forum will start swearing in the most booty way.
          This happens not because a person is poorly educated, but because at the moment of adrenaline rush, a person is looking for expressions that allow him to assess the situation briefly and briefly.
          It’s just the mat that allows you to do this - well, imagine a big block of ice or snow fell on top of you from the roof, but you won’t describe this process in ten long sentences.
          Everything happens much shorter and more capacious and specifically to the situation hehe he sometimes sometimes regardless of the will of the victim.
          1. dimon-media
            dimon-media 11 October 2013 14: 32
            0
            Yes, I have nothing against the mat. Am I arguing with you? Russian speech without a mat turns into a report, everyone knows that. Enough to read poetry Yesenin and Mayakovsky or Ivan Barkov - "Luka Mudishchev). But I am categorically against our youth becoming dull from this slang, the distortion of Russian words. I am also against the integration of foreign words in our vocabulary. I also completely agree with you that in a normal state and a well-educated person can easily express on Russian language any state of mind. In general, any phrase can be rephrased as you like without changing its meaning, unlike some other languages. That is the strength of the Russian language.
            1. Lech from our city
              Lech from our city 11 October 2013 16: 30
              0
              I agree with you.
        2. USMC
          USMC 11 October 2013 23: 03
          0
          Quote: dimon-media
          and not to make 4 mistakes in the word bread. Otherwise, the word beer will work.

          I have one friend in a word more makes 5 mistakes - istocho
  8. Professor
    Professor 11 October 2013 09: 11
    +4
    In the world now the Russian language is mainly spoken by emigrants from the BSSSR and sometimes their children are only conversational. The countries of the former socialist camp used to study the Russian language without fail, but not now. In 2008, he was in Transcaucasia and was shocked that even in Armenia, far from all young people in cities (I am silent about villages in general) generally understand Russian. What then to say about far abroad?
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 11 October 2013 09: 28
      +5
      Quote: Professor
      that even in Armenia, far from all young people in cities (in general I am silent about villages) generally understand Russian.


      Well, you’re in vain Oleg, now visitors from sunny Armenia will come and begin to prove the opposite with foam at the mouth. laughing
      1. 225chay
        225chay 11 October 2013 19: 36
        +3
        Quote: Apollon
        Now visitors from sunny Armenia will come and start proving with foam at the mouth

        +1000 :-)) for sure and boiling water pi.s.a.t))
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 11 October 2013 09: 30
      +5
      Shocked by the Caucasus? You heard today's youth express themselves (I’m not talking about slang and jargon), they can’t connect two words, but I’m completely silent about grammar.
  9. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 11 October 2013 09: 13
    +9
    Now Russia is known in the world as a manufacturer of good S-300 weapons, fighters, Kalashnikov.
    Well oil is gas ..
    In Soviet times, Russians were perceived not only as a vast territory with a powerful army, but as the first country to conquer space! Russian ballet, sports, Pushkin, Dostoevsky .. And most importantly, our education. We had a huge number of students from around the world (who received a good education and not only military). At that time, the Russian language culture was very popular .. Many wanted to know what it is for our country such a huge powerful culture, and not only militarily, our art thundered to the whole world .... Now Russia is far from this yet Alas, but we are again going in this direction.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 11 October 2013 10: 22
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      In the days of the USSR, Russians were perceived not only as a vast territory
      The most important thing is that then there was also IDEOLOGY, the high morality of building a new society, which distinguished us from the old world. There was not only a national idea, but also a world one, if you like, a cosmic one. The Soviet Union gave faith in the future not only to Russians, but to all of humanity. Now this is not the case, we have become imitators of the USA, we shoot "blockbusters", as they do, conduct various shows, do business. We have become another consumer society with "House 2" and other rubbish, where not the spirit of collectivism is glorified, but in various guises they are looking for a "weak link" so that "only one" remains, according to the principle, one's shirt is closer to the body, man is a wolf , dig a hole for another - survive yourself. How have we become better? So far, only by the fact that the natural need of justice to resist this, there is still memory and past education. When we revive our great country, return high morality, true spirituality, then the Russian language will again be needed by the whole world.
    2. dimon-media
      dimon-media 11 October 2013 14: 49
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      .Now Russia is still far from this Alas, but we are going again in this direction.

      The main thing is that we go and do not stand. smile
  10. kafa
    kafa 11 October 2013 09: 18
    +2
    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    If bureaucrats are indignant for the Russian language, then gentlemen, I dare to assure you that in 20 years we will speak English. Almost everything that all sorts of advice did there has the opposite effect on what should be achieved.

    in English (American tobish slang) at best, and then in Arabic .............
  11. darksoul
    darksoul 11 October 2013 09: 19
    +8
    The popularity of the Russian language in the world?

    We would have to save it in Russia. All these slangs, replacing our words with English ... the main supplier of TV and our capital.

    A friend went to work in Moscow. He was a normal crest, returned three years later, trends, trash, ok, shopping ........ as if he had an internship abroad. It feels like a great and mighty specially crush
    1. dimon-media
      dimon-media 11 October 2013 11: 15
      +4
      I agree with you completely. I’ll add from myself:
      Quote: darksoul
      returned three years later, trends, trash, ok, shopping ........

      Like Mikhail Zadornov: - "Birch fresh". Most of all I am enraged by people who, using new-fangled foreign words, do not understand the essence of these words. Fresh it fresh juice. How can I squeeze a birch? Funny and stupid. It's not cool, it's dumb. In the end, why use this foreign jargon, when you can say shopping instead of shopping, instead of casting, selection (competition) and so on. Has anyone ever seen foreigners substitute their words and expressions in their language from the Russian language? And did anyone see posters, signs and advertisements in Russian in New York, London, Paris? Well, we don’t like our language so much?
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  13. kafa
    kafa 11 October 2013 09: 22
    +4
    Quote: darksoul
    The popularity of the Russian language in the world?

    We would have to save it in Russia. All these slangs, replacing our words with English ... the main supplier of TV and our capital.

    A friend went to work in Moscow. He was a normal crest, returned three years later, trends, trash, ok, shopping ........ as if he had an internship abroad. It feels like a great and mighty specially crush

    crush oh how crush, but slaves must understand the commands of the owners
  14. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 11 October 2013 09: 27
    +4
    belay While at the helm of the Lebanese Ministry of Education and Science, it will turn out like Chernomyrdin: "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always."
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 11 October 2013 09: 43
    +1
    I won’t say anything about Russian literary perspectives ... But Russian mat has always been popular among all nations, ha ha ... Usually in Russian it’s not a thorn, but the mat immediately fits into the brain (even if it is not) laughing Russian mat (as if they didn’t fight it and what laws they didn’t issue.) And he is more alive than all the living .........)))))
  16. volcano
    volcano 11 October 2013 09: 50
    +4
    My friends calm down
    In 50 years, we will all speak Chinese. wink

    But seriously, you need to look at 2 things.
    1. The Russian language inside Russia. What do we see? We see attempts to simplify the language, the active introduction of foreign words, the primitivism of communication in society. What is this talking about? Our society is degrading. The beauty and richness of a language are directly related to the internal content of its native speaker. i.e. citizen of Russia. Simplification and degradation of morals and morals, behavior and ethics inevitably leads to a dullness of society and, as a consequence, simplification of the language, because people are not educated and well-developed to use the entire palette of the GREAT and POWERFUL (by analogy with the lousy driver they gave a Formula 1 car. It seems to be a sin I went to hit but not more)
    2. Russian language in the world. Everything is simple here. The information war against Russia, which has been waged for decades, has made Russia an Evil Empire. We are constantly exposed as narrow-minded wild barbarians. tyrants and despots. A country that, with its imperial manners, prevents "normal" people from living. Well, who wants to learn (and speak) the language of the "wild".

    What needs to be done to protect the Russian language?
    Well, at least increase the level of EDUCATION and DEVELOPMENT of the COMPANY. Return to normal morality and ethical standards (for example, remember that a woman is a LADY, not a BAB), etc.
    Well, of course, it is necessary to defeat (just that) in the information war, to exterminate the negative that has developed over time in the minds of foreigners.
    Something like that probably.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 11 October 2013 10: 31
      0
      Bullshit, the "dead hand" will not.
  17. dimon-media
    dimon-media 11 October 2013 09: 59
    +4
    Hands off the Russian language. All these ridiculous attempts to increase the popularization of the Russian language by means of spelling innovations remind me of Krylov's fable "Monkey and glasses". To all these "tips of the Ministry of Education" I can say one thing: Do not start with that and do not disfigure the Russian language, Great and mighty!
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 11 October 2013 18: 55
      +1
      Quote: dimon-media
      Hands off the Russian language. All these ridiculous attempts to increase the popularization of the Russian language by means of spelling innovations remind me of Krylov's fable "Monkey and glasses". To all these "tips of the Ministry of Education" I can say one thing: Do not start with that and do not disfigure the Russian language, Great and mighty!

      There have always been innovations. Remember how they wrote before Pushkin, how until 1917, when there was a reform again, if you strain yourself, you can recall that until recently they wrote the devil. More recently, a norm has appeared that coffee is of a secondary kind (by the way, in accordance with the rules of the Russian language). Language will change, do not get away from this. And this happens in all countries, as well as borrowing.
  18. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 11 October 2013 10: 05
    10
    You can blame me, but Rusyaz was earlier more popular with foreigners. we ourselves didn’t really teach foreigners, but somehow we had to communicate, maintain all kinds of connections, and so they taught. Even Russian was more popular because the area of ​​the country was larger - more people, correspondence, documentation, general cultural space. Also, the Russian people were then the winner (2 world, Gagarin, hockey, ballet), and the winners are always drawn to. After the collapse of the Union, English broke out with a wide margin due to, first of all, the United States. Let's become a victorious nation again (I'm not talking about war in the first place) in terms of living standards, culture, technology, morality. And that’s all, rusyaz №1 in the world without any commissions.
  19. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 11 October 2013 10: 08
    +3
    Quote: FC Skiff
    You can blame me, but Rusyaz was earlier more popular with foreigners. we ourselves didn’t really teach foreigners, but somehow we had to communicate, maintain all kinds of connections, and so they taught. Even Russian was more popular because the area of ​​the country was larger - more people, correspondence, documentation, general cultural space. Also, the Russian people were then the winner (2 world, Gagarin, hockey, ballet), and the winners are always drawn to. After the collapse of the Union, English broke out with a wide margin due to, first of all, the United States. Let's become a victorious nation again (I'm not talking about war in the first place) in terms of living standards, culture, technology, morality. And that’s all, rusyaz №1 in the world without any commissions.

    Yes, plus you! well and to the point they wrote!
  20. EGORKA
    EGORKA 11 October 2013 10: 15
    +1
    The Russian language is not the language of money, therefore its popularity will be limited, like the popularity of many other languages ​​in the big world, but so to speak, in the Russian world and around it, the Russian language is in demand and I think it will be in demand because it is locally the language of money and the language communication between the peoples of the former Union. The stronger Russia is, the better for the Russian language.
  21. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 11 October 2013 10: 24
    +2
    Remember: "I would have learned Russian just for the fact that Lenin spoke it!" or "Everything in a person should be beautiful and a soul ..." Such slogans hung in all schools! And Russian classical literature according to the school curriculum ..! And the songs "Where does the Motherland begin ..."
    From this began the popularization of the Russian language. It is diverse and emotional and complicated of course .. As long as even one Russian soul is alive on the planet, the Russian language will not disappear .. I am 100% sure of this!
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  23. Chukcha
    Chukcha 11 October 2013 10: 54
    +1
    Quote: SolomonSS
    Sorry, I don’t understand something, i.e. Russian culture, with its holidays, dances, songs, tales, epics, this whole identity - is it not interesting !? But American culture is .....


    Originality is always interesting, but for many only up to a certain point. Here read, still released in the Union, the book "People, Yes!" - a collection of American folklore. It will be interesting to know that American culture isn't just about McDonald's.

    http://lib.rus.ec/b/318859/read
  24. rinat1955
    rinat1955 11 October 2013 11: 08
    +1
    What is the popularization of the Russian language, when in a Russian city headed by Mansi of nationality Mansi, with a wife of Jewish nationality, a loaf of meat is called shawarma, then bigmak, and the store of 7 beauties turns into a Hamsa shop?
    1. 225chay
      225chay 11 October 2013 19: 59
      +2
      Quote: rinat1955
      when in the Russian city, headed by the mayor of nationality Mansi, with his wife of Jewish nationality,


      But all his children will be of the nationality of his wife ...))
      This is so that he does not get arrogant ...
  25. Daler
    Daler 11 October 2013 11: 10
    +5
    The question must be posed differently. What is the use for foreigners to learn Russian? Or generally any other language. This is a laborious work, it requires a lot of effort and time, plus cash costs and the desire of the person himself. And in exchange, a person should benefit. So what benefit does knowledge of the Russian language bring to Europeans, Americans (the Latin part too), or to the Chinese ?.
    It makes sense to learn Russian language to CIS citizens, since many of them go to work in the Russian Federation, and for other countries of the world, it is generally not clear why they need to know Russian massively.
    Yes, and any foreigner in the Russian Federation is considered * Urka, pona * hah, * Ernogoopy, etc., even when he knows the language and behaves normally. And if he’s still talking with an accent, then they’ll scoff at him even more, such as see A FOREIGNER speaks Russian with an accent, how low ..
    And it is clear that the Russian language is losing its popularity, and no culture, no films, no scientists will help.
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 11 October 2013 12: 02
      +3
      If I agree with the beginning of your comment, then with the end - no. Maybe you should try to change the circle of friends? Our people, like everywhere else, are different.
      1. Daler
        Daler 11 October 2013 12: 20
        +3
        Quote: v.lyamkin
        If I agree with the beginning of your comment, then with the end - no. Maybe you should try to change the circle of friends? Our people, like everywhere else, are different.


        I didn’t mean everyone. But an opinion about society is made on the basis of the actions of the majority. I watch NTV, and there is a program where they do debate once a week. So even there, someone who came in large numbers speaks of his interlocutors, and in a program with Malakhov, they said so to one artist (from Armenia, he forgot his name). Of course, not everyone says that, but most are.
  26. bubla5
    bubla5 11 October 2013 11: 10
    +3
    You just need to improve the standard of living of the population, stop total growth every year on energy - and then the culture of the Russian language will increase and the language will disappear from use, and scientists will stop leaving the country, otherwise they’ve been the same clowns for 20 years now say one thing but the opposite
    1. dimon-media
      dimon-media 11 October 2013 15: 06
      0
      No, you need a checkmate. It’s not us who invented it, and it’s not for us to eradicate it. Can you imagine life, work, service, communication without a mat? I personally, no, I can’t. Mat is the ability to briefly and succinctly express feelings or remove stress.
      DO NOT LOOK AT THE MINORS. Also persons with a fine mental organization.
  27. grafrozow
    grafrozow 11 October 2013 11: 11
    +3
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Remember: "I would have learned Russian just for the fact that Lenin spoke it!"
    Yes, Vitaliy ... Only V. Mayakovsky sounds different.
    And if so, then it is worth looking for other options for popularizing the Russian language - at least without exploiting the "work" of officials
    Here I agree with the author, and I would like to send our deputies to Russian language courses, they’re carrying such things from the rostrum, you will laugh ...
  28. rinat1955
    rinat1955 11 October 2013 11: 12
    0
    And here's another ... as, for example, they call Russians in the former Soviet republics, well, like self-name?
    The Tatars, Russian men call Mishars (Meshchera), women - margushki (Maria).
    What is the self-name of the Russian Chechens, I even bos thought.
    1. T80UM1
      T80UM1 11 October 2013 11: 27
      +1
      The Chechens call Russians "Rusnya" I heard it myself.
  29. rinat1955
    rinat1955 11 October 2013 11: 17
    0
    Quote: Daler
    Yes, and any foreigner in the Russian Federation is considered * Urka, pona * hah, * Ernogoopy, etc., even when he knows the language and behaves normally.


    I assure you not only a foreigner, ANY person, according to the Russian, doesn’t look like him, thinks not like him, for him a hack, erosy, etc. I’m talking about the reaction of WoT players, and the communication of the Tatar, a hereditary Muscovite, with a come-from-Russian institution.
    1. T80UM1
      T80UM1 11 October 2013 11: 26
      +3
      Well, that’s the reason why to learn the language, culture and art of such people? A foreigner will think and will be absolutely right.
  30. buzer
    buzer 11 October 2013 11: 34
    +6
    20-30 years ago there was the Soviet Union. In all schools of the USSR, the countries of the Warsaw Pact and in Mongolia, Russian was included in the school curriculum! And these are millions of students! Almost the entire male population of the USSR served in the Soviet Army — again, millions !!! Plus, hundreds of thousands (if not more) of foreign students from all over the world studied in the USSR !!! Such a scale of study and mastery of the Russian language cannot be repeated now. So it’s stupid to compare what was 20-30 years ago and the current time. At the moment, the problems of the Russian language are not in quantity, but in quality !!! I’m non-Russian and have never been to Russia, and when I first started talking on social networks with Russian users, I was shocked at first, especially from the younger generation! It may be fashionable in social networks to distort their native language, but it will not lead to good.
  31. Janis SU
    Janis SU 11 October 2013 11: 36
    +5
    As for the Russian language and Russians ... I still have not understood why in Latvia, like in the other former Soviet republics, everyone is divided into representatives of local nationality, and the rest of them all into Russians. Skopom, they say, does not matter real nationality ... For some reason, all those who speak Russian or for whom the Russian language is native - local peoples consider Russians. It doesn’t matter if you are Belarusian or Tatar, actually Latvian or Ukrainian, Moldavian or Chechen. Even if there is a Russian-speaking Negro, he will also be Russian, often an invader, whose ancestors once entered here together with the Red Army. On the one hand it’s funny, but on the other ... nationalism is a vile and fetid infection, and national separatism ... Well, it’s also noteworthy that everyone visiting Russia associates tourists with rich and respectable people, but it’s excellent knowing the price of money, but still not skimp on costs. That is the reality ...
  32. Janis SU
    Janis SU 11 October 2013 11: 48
    +5
    Quote: buzer
    20-30 years ago there was the Soviet Union. In all schools of the USSR, the countries of the Warsaw Pact and in Mongolia, Russian was included in the school curriculum! And these are millions of students! Almost the entire male population of the USSR served in the Soviet Army — again, millions !!! Plus, hundreds of thousands (if not more) of foreign students from all over the world studied in the USSR !!! Such a scale of study and mastery of the Russian language cannot be repeated now. So it’s stupid to compare what was 20-30 years ago and the current time. At the moment, the problems of the Russian language are not in quantity, but in quality !!! I’m non-Russian and have never been to Russia, and when I first started talking on social networks with Russian users, I was shocked at first, especially from the younger generation! It may be fashionable in social networks to distort their native language, but it will not lead to good.


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    Both of my sons, Latvians, are fluent in Russian. The youngest in the 5th grade, the eldest in the 7th. They have, respectively, 8 and 9 (on a 10-point system) points in the Russian language. This is the subject of my special pride. My daughter is still quite a baby, but she, I am sure, will know no worse. The language of the Metropolis, as well as the great writers and scientists, discoverers and generals, artists and just once brothers in a common house should be known and respected. By the way, in the Baltic countries, Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians and others use the Russian language among themselves. There are (not without it?) Rabid lumpen nationals who try to moo in English, but this is often at the highest level for the press. All is obvious.
    1. Nirag013
      Nirag013 12 October 2013 16: 36
      +2
      As for interethnic communication in the Baltic States - to the very point! Everything is exactly the way it is, as you wrote - it is in Russian, when you try to express yourself in English for fun, the "nationally oriented" personnel fall into a complete stupor.
      And you have a plus from me and my great respect for not letting me forget the Russian language in Latvia.
      PS: And in Lithuania, in particular in Klaipeda, the majority of Lithuanians, if necessary, switch to Russian without any problems. Almost all people of the 30+ generation speak Russian to one degree or another. With young people, everything is much more complicated, the influence of the "nationally preoccupied" political elite ("Russia is enemy number 1! Occupation! Oppression!").
  33. buzer
    buzer 11 October 2013 11: 51
    +2
    education officials need to pay attention primarily to the Internet. This is where the untapped field for the promotion of the Russian language and Russian culture! After all, there are billions of Internet users! Just like in Blok "millions of you - us darkness, and darkness, and darkness ..."
  34. v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 11 October 2013 11: 57
    +2
    Like it or not, what tips do not create, and the Russian language will become more widespread in the world only if it is economically or due to the convenience of communication. in the meantime, we go abroad in large numbers, and a little bit goes to us abroad, and only those who need it, and not so many, or enthusiasts who are even less will learn our language.
  35. pahom54
    pahom54 11 October 2013 12: 09
    +3
    I quote; ... "According to Deputy Minister of Education and Science Veniamin Kaganov, if 20-30 years ago the number of Russian-speaking people in the world was about 380 million people, today it is already 260 million ..."
    It’s interesting, who has bothered to carry out such a titanic work on a global scale to obtain such data? And what human and financial resources did it take? Isn't Levada center again?
    And about the Russian Language Council and the proposals coming from it ... Nak !!! Wacky offers from moronic officials. This once again proves that this advice is a sinecure for thieves loafers! BUT for some reason, under the current council, which is fighting for the distribution of the Russian language, they do not pay attention to the fact that our scribbling journalist-showmen became blatantly illiterate !!! E Listen only to their speech, read the scribble they write !!! And this fucking advice is not interested in it, since some ignoramuses and there also gathered.
    First you need to clean up the Russian language in your country. But it is not necessary to take care of spreading around the world, it is not some advice, but the development of the Russian economy that should play a role in this distribution. We will be strong, we will be rich - the geyropniks themselves will begin to teach him in order to come to us and work for us ...
  36. Janis SU
    Janis SU 11 October 2013 12: 15
    +4
    Quote: v.lyamkin
    Like it or not, what tips do not create, and the Russian language will become more widespread in the world only if it is economically or due to the convenience of communication. in the meantime, we go abroad in large numbers, and a little bit goes to us abroad, and only those who need it, and not so many, or enthusiasts who are even less will learn our language.


    Well, why is everything so sad? In the same Riga, without the Russian language you can’t get anywhere. Being the same seller or taxi driver it is simply unthinkable not to know the Russian language. Yes, perhaps in any field of service. A lot of Russians buy real estate from us - houses, apartments. By the way, we often wonder - time comes once a year for one to two weeks and back. What is the point of buying? These are the same costs. I have a neighbor from Moscow. So he arrives literally for 5-6 days in the summer and on New Year's. He says, they say, there is a lot of work, and for him it’s like a front-exit summer residence. Recently, Belarusians have actively begun to buy apartments. He met one, so he said that he bought an apartment only for fishing - an avid fisherman. So without Russian, this is not the right place.
  37. rotor
    rotor 11 October 2013 13: 16
    +3
    So who killed the "brochures" and "parachutes", the president of the Russian Language Support Fund Lyudmila Putin. am

    There are also other borrowed words "maer", "yod", "yogurt", "staer", "conveyer". There are words ending in "evo". In printed publications, they write e instead of e. All this needs to be corrected. Otherwise, the Russian language will turn into something incomprehensible, how at one time, for example, English turned, which is not spelled the way it is pronounced. We must resolutely fight this!
  38. Vinny-buh
    Vinny-buh 11 October 2013 13: 17
    +3
    The problem is that, as usual, the solution of any tasks is entrusted to people who, in addition to managerial posts, did not hold any more. Those. they didn’t work in the field, and they don’t know the problem from the inside and, as a result, they don’t know how to solve the problem. Here are the budgets ... is another matter.
    I’ll tell you how the United States is with this issue.
    Their state program teachers work almost everywhere in the countries of the third, and not only, world. Met them even in African villages. Naturally, there is no question of any altruism. Loot, for teachers it is natural. They learn not only English ... they teach the correct history, they teach that the United States is the mainstay of peace and democracy, etc. Europe does not lag behind .. In short, another ten years and the world, for the most part, will be absolutely sure that the Americans won all the wars, that the Russians are the most slavish and barbaric country in the world.
    Kenyan Ave was very surprised that I was Russian. She said, if she knew before, she wouldn’t come with me. At their schools in history lessons we are represented almost by animals ... And who teaches them - I already told.
  39. major071
    major071 11 October 2013 13: 18
    +9
    Indeed, the Russian language is one of the most difficult in the world. Many of the Russian-speaking people who left for the West in the 90 years cease to communicate in their native language, preferring the language of the country where they live. This is especially evident in children who were born there already. My relatives live in Germany. If the older generation still speaks Russian at least at home, then my nephews hardly understand a few words and do not aspire to learn Russian. request
    At the expense of the complexity of the Russian language, a joke: There is a foreigner who speaks Russian on a village street, and a grandmother drives a geese towards him and says, “Get out, dogs!” Foreigner grandmother: - But what kind of dogs are they? It's geese! Grandma in response - Yes, these pigs in my garden plucked all the seedlings. laughing
  40. morpogr
    morpogr 11 October 2013 13: 19
    +3
    If Russia becomes a leading power in the economy and politics, as well as in culture, literature, cinema, music, and sports. Russian language will become more popular and everyone will want to learn it themselves.
  41. yurii p
    yurii p 11 October 2013 13: 26
    +5
    Paradoxical as it may seem, the government officials themselves are the main opponents and the most important enemy is Yeltsin and his current associates, who are working hard to reduce the country's authority, and therefore to lower the importance of the Russian language.
  42. kafa
    kafa 11 October 2013 13: 41
    0
    sir, you should skimp on completeness yourself. Sasha PUSHKIN. repeat
  43. mithridate
    mithridate 11 October 2013 14: 57
    +3
    the degradation of the Russian language is a clear result of the planned and constant work of the Western circles.
  44. Komandir 1999
    Komandir 1999 11 October 2013 16: 12
    +1
    Russian language!
  45. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 11 October 2013 16: 30
    +2
    Quote: dejavu
    For the Russian language to become popular in the world, it must be necessary when applying for a job in our country


    These are very good wishes. Nevertheless, young people from Central Asia still have to learn the language at the household level. Worse than in the Soviet Army, but still. So, I think that millions (not knowing the Russian language) in the article are not entirely true.
  46. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 11 October 2013 21: 13
    +2
    Kibalchish (3) SU
    The Russian language will be taught if Russia itself is an attractive country. If she has a culture interesting to other countries, a prosperous population and economy. AND
    true freedom
    for people.

    Sorry, I didn’t understand what it means true freedom?
    So in the country there is rampant banditry, prostitution, aggressive, mediocre and vulgar films, tabloids, homosexuals, etc., etc. What do you see as "true freedom"? Even with ANARCHY, there is no complete freedom. Any freedom of one person is an infringement of the freedom of another.
  47. wanderer
    wanderer 11 October 2013 22: 15
    +2
    For the Russian language to become popular in the world, it must be promoted. The advertisement is engine of the trade. Why are Anglophones sending volunteer teachers all over the world, and moreover, of a completely human kind and not to the capital? Why come from Russia a bull-like uncle with a very big conceit. Who takes them away? Why are they in? Why are they poking around some sort of fake Russian communities? You have to go to the people. Believe me, few people are interested in the Bolshoi Theater, the matryoshkas are already lifted up, the Suomans are making better vodka. You need to look at things wider, and people need to be softer, as one character said to Shurik. Because sometimes Russian policy is like an elephant in a china shop (one g .Onischenko what is worth). People shy in different directions
  48. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 12 October 2013 00: 21
    0
    Quote: starshina78
    because England, the United States, who speak English (the American dialect is light English), are the most attractive countries

    In an economic sense, for now, yes, they are.
    Well, again, while English is the international language of techies, scientists and businessmen. So without it, nowhere.
  49. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 12 October 2013 00: 24
    0
    Quote: major071
    There is a foreigner who speaks Russian, along a village street, and a grandmother drives a geese towards him and says, “Get out, dogs!” Foreigner grandmother: - But what kind of dogs are they? It's geese! Grandma in response - Yes, these pigs in my garden plucked all the seedlings. laughing

    Such an episode with both English and Italian (by the way, in terms of conceptual flexibility, it is close to Russian :)) and with any language is real. Except Esperanto and other deterministic "synthetes". :)
  50. Puler
    Puler 12 October 2013 01: 08
    +1
    The language of the classics! Great Mighty, as once the Union.