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In 2014, ammunition consumption will increase fivefold in units of the Strategic Missile Forces

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In 2014, ammunition consumption will increase fivefold in units of the Strategic Missile Forces

In order to improve the skills and use of small weapons the security and intelligence units of the Strategic Missile Forces in 2014 are planning to increase the consumption of ammunition five times. The number of rounds used during firing will increase to 1000 per soldier per year.


This innovation will also concern studies that involve the execution of firing from both an automatic weapon and the standard armament of combat vehicles. In this regard, individual shooting ranges will be upgraded and retrofitted, aimed at increasing the depth of target fields.

In addition, the number of exercises will increase significantly.

The “fire decades” for the servicemen of the security and intelligence units are planned monthly and are under strict control of the Strategic Missile Forces command. From now on, more than 30% shooting will be conducted in the dark.

The Strategic Missile Forces will also increase the intensity of classes aimed at the implementation of exercises for throwing hand-held training (training and imitation) grenades.

In the 2013 year in each compound RVSN were manufactured simulators for throwing grenades at a distance that allows you to train in sports camps without deploying sectors for throwing.
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  1. experienced
    experienced 10 October 2013 12: 55 New
    +8
    Amazing news title that doesn't match the content wassat After reading the title, I thought that the Israelis would now be 5 times more likely to observe fireworks from our ICBMs in their skies ... lol
    The Americans
    U.S. officials confirm that Deputy Admiral Tim Giardina, deputy head of the US Armed Forces Strategic Command, has been dismissed and demoted for casino poker fraud.

    Earlier, the representative of the command of nuclear forces, Captain Pamela Koons, said that law enforcement agencies and a special service of the U.S. Navy began a criminal investigation against Giardin, who, according to her, was suspended from his duties. The US Department of Defense has not yet made an official statement on this subject and has not explained what the military commander’s infringement is, ITAR-TASS reports.

    However, the Omaha World Herald newspaper found that Vice Admiral suspected of poker casino fraud. According to the Nebraska Prosecutor’s Office, Giardina used fake tokens worth $ 1,5.
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 10 October 2013 13: 35 New
      28
      I watch the news everyone understood clearly. wassat
      1. Mitek
        Mitek 10 October 2013 14: 00 New
        +8
        Quote: SHILO
        I watch the news everyone understood clearly. wassat

        Sam came up with the idea to write something like this)))) Damage missile consumption))
      2. DEMENTIY
        DEMENTIY 10 October 2013 14: 05 New
        +6
        Hi Kostyan. No jokes, but it’s not a sin to think about the mental health of overseas partners. And then go already shelves in the markets are emptying! Sorry.
        1. SHILO
          SHILO 10 October 2013 14: 16 New
          +2
          Hi! drinks Nothing let production stimulate. yes
      3. PSih2097
        PSih2097 10 October 2013 14: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: SHILO
        I watch the news everyone understood clearly.

  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 10 October 2013 12: 55 New
    +7
    I thought rockets. smile
    1. ultra
      ultra 10 October 2013 12: 59 New
      +4
      And I, sinfully, thought of rockets! laughing
    2. Nick
      Nick 10 October 2013 19: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      I thought rockets.

      Well, 1000 rounds of ammunition per year, burn per guard soldier, is also not enough.
      I served in these units back in the SA. Now I figured it out, and realized that even in the 80s blessed for the Army, no more than 600 pieces per year were burned for one REZOvets. True, they served then 2 years ...
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 10 October 2013 21: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      I thought rockets.

      Quote: ultra
      And I, sinfully, thought of rockets!

      Well, yes. laughing For the salary of the whole country, we will be thrown off, maybe one is enough. laughing
  3. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 10 October 2013 13: 01 New
    +6
    There is hope that the time when the soldiers, instead of military training, mastered the construction specialties at the dachas of their superiors, was gone forever.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 10 October 2013 13: 53 New
      +7
      my son did not see the "Kalash" for the service, it is true a sailor, but even the oath was in the cabin, and without a weapon ...
      1. Aryan
        Aryan 10 October 2013 16: 05 New
        +1
        "In 2013, each Strategic Missile Forces unit manufactured simulators for throwing grenades at a distance, which allows training in sports camps without deploying sectors for throwing."

        It would be interesting to know in more detail what kind of simulators and their capabilities

        I didn’t smell gunpowder myself, but as a civilian I want to share with you
        as in the past millennium in the lessons of the NVP
        we dug trenches behind a football field (7th to my throat)
        and steal a concrete slab from a neighboring construction site and made a dugout out of it
        and at labor lessons (remember those?) we made aluminum bars similar to pomegranate-beater (if memory doesn’t change, we added sand there so that it matches the weight, I forgot how many grams)
        in the same place at the labor lessons, we then welded a frame of water pipes for a model of the contour of the tank of the enemy expected and set it from a trench like 25-30 meters
        there were also infantry targets at different distances (speed bumps)
        we threw grenades at the time
        and threw stones and stones in the evenings

        of course, like all schoolchildren at school, we had our own "rams and problems"
        but at that small training ground we were always back to back
        1. Moore
          Moore 10 October 2013 17: 36 New
          +1
          In my time at school, this "simulator" was a hefty pipe dug into the ground, on which seemed to be attached six or nine wire braces at an angle of 45 degrees to the horizon. F-1 dummies hung on the braces. This dummy could be run up the wire up to the pole as far as the fool was enough. Thus, the skill of throwing to the maximum range was practiced. laughing
          I called my child now to the unit - of course, there is no simulator.
          To the newsmakers of the Strategic Missile Forces
      2. vell.65mail.ru
        vell.65mail.ru 10 October 2013 17: 57 New
        +1
        I had to shoot too, already twice: once in the ShMAS, the second in the regiment for three rounds. laughing
  4. andrei332809
    andrei332809 10 October 2013 13: 02 New
    +5
    For one soldier per year, the number of rounds used during firing will increase to 1000.

    I also thought about "basic ammunition" first.
  5. Alexey M
    Alexey M 10 October 2013 13: 04 New
    +4
    A new type of imitation of launching an ICBM is inserted into the mine cartridge from the Kalash and fired range and ballistic coincide with the performance characteristics of the rocket. wink
  6. Alex66
    Alex66 10 October 2013 13: 16 New
    +4
    For one soldier per year, the number of rounds used during firing will increase to 1000.

    He fired in training 2 times for 30 and in part 2 times for 15 rounds. 1000 well, it's super if true. Strategic Missile Forces KBVO 88-90
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 10 October 2013 13: 56 New
      +2
      In late September, China conducted test maneuvers on a satellite that is intercepting another satellite. According to Pentagon officials, this indicates significant progress in Beijing's space military program ... but what the "neighbors" are indulging in ...
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man 10 October 2013 14: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Alex66
      He fired in training 2 times for 30 and in part 2 times for 15 rounds. 1000 well, it's super if true. Strategic Missile Forces KBVO 88-90


      I think nothing will change now, I mean "REKS", the soldiers of the guard company, but they have fired to the point of stupidity before
  7. nikcris
    nikcris 10 October 2013 13: 30 New
    +6
    I read the link and almost started laughing
    And he went in - here about the cartridges. Immediately feel better.
    Gentlemen, journalists, be careful ...
  8. IRBIS
    IRBIS 10 October 2013 13: 32 New
    10
    "From now on, more than 30% of the shooting will take place in the dark."

    In fact, forty years ago, the rule was introduced that a third of all training and exercises should be carried out at night. Congratulations to the Strategic Missile Forces command with the discovery of this technique!

    "In 2013, each Strategic Missile Forces unit produced simulators for throwing grenades at a distance, which allows training in sports camps without deploying sectors for throwing."

    And nobody had deployed "sectors for throwing" before, they were throwing on parade grounds, stadiums, running tracks, SKU strips. And immediately a question appeared to me: is this simulators for throwing grenades like or what is it?
    Or did it just draw the range bands on the parade ground (did a set of plates with numbers in meters), and wrote off the money to mythical simulators?
    And again I congratulate the Strategic Missile Forces command on innovative solutions and successes in the work done over the entire 2013 year!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 10 October 2013 14: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: IRBIS
      "In 2013, each Strategic Missile Forces unit produced simulators for throwing grenades at a distance, which allows training in sports camps without deploying sectors for throwing."

      Who knows the metal grenade, that the first time the sensation of throwing combat and training grenades is somewhat different, as it were, to put it mildly. Alexander, hi
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 10 October 2013 16: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Who knows the metal grenade, that the first time the sensation of throwing combat and training grenades is somewhat different, as it were, to put it mildly. Alexander,

        I’m not talking about throwing combat grenades, it is carried out at the training ground, in specially equipped places.
        Training can be thrown practically without leaving the territory of the unit, until greening and vomiting. No "special simulators" are needed for this, except for a grenade model.
    2. V. Salama
      V. Salama 10 October 2013 15: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: IRBIS
      And then I immediately had a question: and simulators for throwing grenades - is this how or is it what?
      Or did it just draw the range bands on the parade ground (did a set of plates with numbers in meters), and wrote off the money to mythical simulators?

      In the period from 1986 to 1988, in the advanced formation of the Strategic Missile Forces, the idea of ​​a field training center and a command training base was formed in the form of advanced experience, where it was supposed to train soldiers on special sites with elements made of metal, brick and concrete in all types of combat training. Based on this, it can be assumed that the "simulator for throwing grenades at a distance" is another element of this training base, made in the form of an asphalted (concreted) area of ​​the terrain of the appropriate size and profile, surrounded by a metal mesh and a curb, in "severe cases" - having a canopy from bad weather and other gadgets.
  9. Refueling Strategic Missile Tanker
    Refueling Strategic Missile Tanker 10 October 2013 13: 38 New
    +3
    DMB 77, autumn. Shot 3 rounds before the oath. And that’s all ...

    ... But in the fall of 1977, in the year of celebration of 60 years of October, before the demobilization we put on combat duty the first Soviet strategic missiles with multiple warheads. He served as a tanker. Sniffed and AMIL and HEPTIL. Hair in place.
  10. Refueling Strategic Missile Tanker
    Refueling Strategic Missile Tanker 10 October 2013 13: 39 New
    +2
    DMB 77, autumn. Shot 3 rounds before the oath. And that’s all ...

    ... But in the fall of 1977, in the year of celebration of 60 years of October, before the demobilization we put on combat duty the first Soviet strategic missiles with multiple warheads. He served as a tanker. Sniffed and AMIL and HEPTIL. Hair in place.
  11. pahom54
    pahom54 10 October 2013 13: 48 New
    +3
    In the Strategic Missile Forces, security and reconnaissance units occupy (at least should) occupy one of the main roles in the tasks of launching the main weapon - missiles. These units should not allow the actions of enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups to disrupt product launches. What kind of protection and combat protection of the launchers by the soldiers who fired three rounds before the oath will be?
    So do not be surprised, everything is in the subject. Guard launchers should be at a high level, and the planned increase in combat training and throwing grenades should only please ...
  12. pahom54
    pahom54 10 October 2013 13: 48 New
    +1
    In the Strategic Missile Forces, security and reconnaissance units occupy (at least should) occupy one of the main roles in the tasks of launching the main weapon - missiles. These units should not allow the actions of enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups to disrupt product launches. What kind of protection and combat protection of the launchers by the soldiers who fired three rounds before the oath will be?
    So do not be surprised, everything is in the subject. Guard launchers should be at a high level, and the planned increase in combat training and throwing grenades should only please ...
  13. diver1977
    diver1977 10 October 2013 13: 51 New
    +2
    1000 rounds per year. Wow. Well this is almost 3 rounds per day! Can’t you increase at least a couple of horns a week? What kind of army, in which only certain units can shoot?
  14. shitovmg
    shitovmg 10 October 2013 13: 59 New
    +2
    Yeah, then everything is in order! Everyone understood the same way. and that's nothing written differently ...
  15. mithridate
    mithridate 10 October 2013 14: 18 New
    +2
    It would not hurt to throw more cartridges!
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 11 October 2013 09: 58 New
      0
      In our school in the basement there was a shooting range with a border of 50 meters. And the armory was. As far as I remember, in the final class, NVP was 2 times a week. The military commander often gave out small things and a box of cartridges for his brother. After the lesson in the dash, half a bucket of shells was collected on a rope from a large speaker with a magnet.
      This is not counting all the other gadgets like OZK with gas masks, AKM, a set of chemical intelligence ... There were visual aids in the form of cut shells of all calibers up to 155 mm inclusive and RPG grenades. And a lot of other interesting, incomprehensible and dear to the heart of the boys.

      And according to the reaction to the headline, I am predictable, like everything here. It was a sinful thing to think about the "main caliber" of the Strategic Missile Forces
      wassat
  16. old rocket man
    old rocket man 10 October 2013 14: 31 New
    +2
    Demanding high performance in fire training from numbers of combat crews in the Strategic Missile Forces is just as ridiculous as demanding sniper training from a military doctor. This is an anachronism, fun for generals from the infantry of past centuries. No training will save you from disruption in the performance of a combat mission, if the column of military equipment at least one aimed shot from a grenade launcher or a line from a machine gun will be fired on the march, there are security units for defense, their task is not to allow subversive groups, to prevent them from entering the combat touch with technology, I think, and not just me, that tech-rocket launchers should have only self-defense weapons (pistols) and be assessed by special training, and not by the training system of an infantryman from the Second World War. Everyone should do his own thing.
    1. V. Salama
      V. Salama 10 October 2013 15: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Old Rocketman
      ... This is an anachronism, fun for the generals from the infantry of past centuries.
      It seems that this is a formal sign that at the top they finally understood that the Strategic Missile Forces is "our everything", they have given the appropriate guidelines for the development of combat effectiveness and, here it is not a pity for our guys ... "they would give more, but they do not know what ".
  17. Lumumba
    Lumumba 10 October 2013 15: 28 New
    +2
    The name of the news is unrealistic zhzhot)
  18. vlbelugin
    vlbelugin 10 October 2013 15: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: Old Rocketman
    must have only self-defense weapons (gun)

    In the Soviet years, fire training - pistol shooting was the prerogative of staff, division commanders and his deputies. Starting with the commander, the firing groups were carried out from a machine gun. And I, as the group commander, had to shoot first, then the officers and ensigns of the group, and only then the soldiers.
    When on duty in full force in a field position, all officers and warrant officers who are not in combat posts occupy their trenches (for firing standing) in the inner circle of the position's defense. Therefore, you can’t do with a gun.
    Let them shoot. A soldier, warrant officer, officer, no matter what specialty, he should be able to shoot from all the weapons of the unit, including the BTR and MOBD tower machine guns.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 10 October 2013 17: 50 New
      -2
      They’re just preparing them for infantry - the missiles are already useless, they get off easily - they will shoot or mothball, and people will attack. The warhead can also be rolled in a cart.
  19. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 10 October 2013 15: 46 New
    0
    In order to improve the skills and use of small arms by the Strategic Missile Forces security and reconnaissance units, in 2014 it is planned to increase the ammunition consumption by five times. For one soldier per year, the number of rounds used during firing will increase to 1000.

    1000 rounds per year - this is seriously, albeit less than the machine gunners OPulAB. And how much, interestingly, had been shot before?
    1. Gato
      Gato 10 October 2013 16: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Sergei Medvedev
      And how much, interestingly, had been shot before?

      In the SA (1986-88, KzakVO, 87 odkb) compulsory firing was carried out every 2 months, two horns for each personnel. A total of 720 rounds in 2 years. This is not counting the final checks and KMB.
      Naturally, this was not the case everywhere. Everything depended on the unit commander and the "militant"
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  21. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 10 October 2013 16: 25 New
    0
    Throwing training and imitation relaxes the fighter - you need to throw real offensive ones and not just square on the ground, but it turns out very clearly into the saloon of a decommissioned PAZ or think of something if available.
  22. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 10 October 2013 16: 25 New
    0
    Throwing training and imitation relaxes the fighter - you need to throw real offensive ones and not just square on the ground, but it turns out very clearly into the saloon of a decommissioned PAZ or think of something if available.
    1. dimon-media
      dimon-media 11 October 2013 01: 01 New
      0
      Damn ... but where are so many grooves to take? )) At least they would leave them in effigies from a ballistic gel))) well, or in straw ones. laughing Or do you want to support the domestic auto industry represented by the Pavlovsk Automobile Plant? laughing )))) A joke. Only now, imitation grenades are really needed for the fighter to master the technique of throwing grenades before automaticity, and so that instead of the grenade he will throw a safety ring instead of a grenade, and not throw a grenade under his feet or that he will not roll up his sleeve. There were precedents.
  23. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 10 October 2013 16: 27 New
    0
    I don’t understand, but why twice?
  24. Manul
    Manul 10 October 2013 17: 32 New
    0
    I shot two times for the service for three shots. But the wives of the commanding staff were having fun from the hip, offhand, not aiming and flying in, as they say. I would like to believe that 2 shots will really be at the servicemen. But knowing our realities .. Who will check this? ?? We don’t want to think about where additional ammunition can go, but we have been able to earn money from soldiers, materiel and ammunition for a long time in the Army. I really want to correct the situation. But why should this happen? Maybe in the Strategic Missile Forces control and responsibility are more painful than in other parts. .
    And the title of the article is incorrect. And you really are not thinking about cartridges fellow
  25. Garrin
    Garrin 10 October 2013 17: 32 New
    0
    In 2014, ammunition consumption will increase fivefold in units of the Strategic Missile Forces

    Yes, at least ten, if only in favor. This is not a pity. It's a pity when they steal ...
  26. Migari
    Migari 10 October 2013 17: 42 New
    0
    It’s already high time to teach soldiers how to do combat, it’s only pleasing, I’ve always been with the AKM in the Army’s CA, but we fired once every half a year, and then we used 3 rounds each, after firing on karachki, looking for cartridges, and God forbid at least one will not, they felt the grass, therefore, at the firing line - one shot and two shells were collected.
  27. nikcris
    nikcris 10 October 2013 18: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Sergey Medvedev
    In order to improve the skills and use of small arms by the Strategic Missile Forces security and reconnaissance units, in 2014 it is planned to increase the ammunition consumption by five times. For one soldier per year, the number of rounds used during firing will increase to 1000.

    1000 rounds per year - this is seriously, albeit less than the machine gunners OPulAB. And how much, interestingly, had been shot before?

    And earlier, at the training camp of the reservists, I received a zinc box with the requirement to shoot him at X))). Equipment horns exhausted in the cold. And firing at blunt targets annoyed. And when today I hear about the fact that they shoot three times a year, I am stunned. But I, the then lieutenant of the reserve, also shot in bursts from a grenade launcher. And when I was a student, the only deficits were single - for training. They gave out three pieces a day. Combat at the shooting range - as necessary, but not greedy.
    He received a military ID in 1986. The training took place in 1989. Now I shoot from pneumatic Walter at cows in the village - they didn’t break mirrors in my car.
    PS By the way! The courses were held on the basis of the Strategic Missile Forces division fellow
    PS2 And in connection with which I do not care - courses at rocket launchers, profession - builder, VUS - traffic cop (road-curfew service)
  28. APASUS
    APASUS 10 October 2013 19: 00 New
    +1
    In general, it’s strange to write such news for the Strategic Missile Forces troops, they don’t guard the tea. They should be trained at the level of special forces and the number of rounds to increase skill should not matter.
  29. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 10 October 2013 19: 01 New
    -3
    The deterioration of small arms trunks will increase. The repair of small arms of artillery plants will increase work, including the burning of metal parts, the restoration of surfaces. Perhaps URA will receive new standards.
    1. dimon-media
      dimon-media 11 October 2013 00: 55 New
      0
      Why do we need weapons factories and workshops? But gunsmiths will not remain without work. The head should not hurt at our Ministry of Defense that trunks will wear out. Soldier must be able to shoot accurately. Let’s do what you think - instead of trunks, will we give shovels to the fighters? And we will protect the trunks in warehouses and in weapons rooms. Let's not even save on these trifles?
  30. waisson
    waisson 10 October 2013 19: 50 New
    +1
    it should be in all branches of the armed forces there should be no restrictions airplanes fly carabels go ground forces should shoot no matter what weapons and they should not have a headache why and what to shoot
  31. alone
    alone 10 October 2013 20: 26 New
    0
    Most likely, security is being prepared for all sorts of force majeure circumstances. It would be interesting what annual consumption of ammunition from the infantry would be.
  32. Grif
    Grif 10 October 2013 21: 11 New
    +3
    Cartridges are like money. Nice to spend.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 10 October 2013 22: 14 New
      +1
      no, unfortunately. Now I’m not sure if I will be able to get from Kalash to a growth target. And the money is bullshit. You go to a suitable bank and take as much as you need. If with a gun, of course. And if there is a sense of money. And then you’re lying in the sand with karakurt, all of you are cool, with a grenade launcher, of course, money, it’s hot, but there is NO water. and WILL NOT! Vodokanal on vacation)))
  33. Very old
    Very old 10 October 2013 22: 18 New
    +3
    I was delighted.
    I really wanted to
  34. dimon-media
    dimon-media 11 October 2013 00: 49 New
    +2
    After reading the headline, I almost fell off the chair. At first I thought that consumption would increase five times nuclear weapons .. Strategic Missile Forces after all)) laughing
  35. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 October 2013 08: 17 New
    +1
    Let the harness, anyhow in business.
    And then they go on a demobilization, and do not know from which side to approach the machine, and what to do with it.
  36. Moore
    Moore 11 October 2013 18: 01 New
    0
    Quote: old rocket
    Demanding high performance in fire training from numbers of combat crews in the Strategic Missile Forces is just as ridiculous as the requirement for sniper training from a military doctor. This is an anachronism, fun for generals from the infantry of past centuries ............ I think, and not I’m the only one who says that tech missile launchers should have only self-defense weapons (pistols) and be assessed by special training, and not by the training system of an infantryman from the Second World War. Everyone should do his own thing.

    Let me ask you how the refined "rocket technician" of the mobile complex differs from his colleague, for example, from the Iskander or the commander of an artillery battery? The special whiteness of the bone? Intellect? Not sitting at the equipment of the 5th link and resting in the MOBD?
    According to this logic, engineering, combat training, and physical training are categorically contraindicated to this intellectual.
    The trouble comes later, when from such "techies" with a claim to a special approach to themselves it is necessary to appoint chiefs of departments and commanders of groups. Here we firmly rest on the fact that this hipster pepsikolny soldier can not teach anything, does not want, and therefore hates combat training with all his "tech" soul. Hence, tons of paper tops about the allegedly conducted classes and statements like: "We do not undertake to train normal shooters, we undertake to spend a lot of ammunition and build simulators." This is all, of course, IMHO.