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America, look in the mirror!

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Warning of the upcoming default and crisis in October, Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman in "New York Times" He poured poisonous criticism on Republicans blackmailing Barack Obama with health care reform — the one that the American people called Obamacare (pronounced either with mild irony or with contempt and frothy drooling). The fact is that this reform turned out to be a stumbling block between Republicans and Democrats: if the latter support Obama, the former believe that the rich people of America can easily do without the support of the medical reforms that concern the poor in their wallets. Republicans in Congress are naturally blackmailing the president: they say, let us raise the national debt ceiling to October 17, if reform is abolished. Obama refuses to blackmail.


America, look in the mirror!
"Obamanation" - a particularly popular painting by the artist John McNaughton


Failure to raise the public debt ceiling will lead to the omission of payments on existing government debt, Paul Krugman said in a recent article. This is fraught with terrible consequences. The mere assumption that US bonds will lose reliability means a violation of the financial system. Such a default will create a huge crisis, before which, the economist writes, will fade the crisis associated with the "Lehman Brothers" five years ago.

According to Krugman, no sensible political system would take such a risk. But we, he writes, do not have a sensible political system, we have a system in which a significant number of Republicans believe that they can force President Obama to cancel health care reform, threatening the government with "shutdown" or default, or both.

Arguments about the politics and economics of these people Krugman calls "delusional."

Republican radicals, he notes with irony, generally oppose scientific consensus on climate change. Also, many of them reject the theory of evolution. How can you expect from these people that they will believe the experts, warning of the danger of default?

The economist and the Nobel laureate speaks of current American politicians, as well as those who voted for them, like madmen.

Of News It is known that on October 3, the US president canceled a trip to the APEC summit in Indonesia - the reason for this “shutdown” of the government. In the absence of Obama, Chinese leader Xi Jinping made a speech at the forum in which Obama’s name never sounded - as if that had been “turned off” along with America.

While Comrade C was speaking at the summit and was conducting backstage strategic negotiations with Comrade Putin, Mr. Obama frightened Republicans through his native television. Among other things, he said that he did not intend to make concessions regarding the budget, the channel said "RT".

In an interview with CNBC, the US president said: “If it becomes a habit for us that one party can be engaged in extortion, then no subsequent president will be able to effectively run the country. I only know that the American people — and I have to admit that businessmen, too — are tired of the constant transitions from crisis to crisis. ”

Very interesting, we note, the division of the US population - into businessmen and the people themselves. Such a critical approach is understandable: just businessmen who are ready to strangle themselves because of a couple of dollars, and oppose Obamacare in the majority. In addition, the Congress is full of rich Republicans - more precisely, very rich.

Due to the government’s “shutdown”, the United States had to cancel its participation in the negotiations on the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, which envisages the creation of a free trade zone between the US and the EU.

As transmits "RT" With reference to ITAR-TASS, the US side said: “US Trade Representative Michael Frohman phoned Karel De Gucht, European Trade Commissioner, to regret that the suspension of the US government would not allow them to take part in the second round of negotiations on Transatlantic investment partnership to be held next week in Brussels. ”

Froman referred to the fact that financial constraints "make it impossible to send a full-fledged delegation of negotiators."

In such a gloomy atmosphere, the American Minister of Finance, Jacob Lew, sounded the alarm. The statement of the Minister told the correspondent. ITAR-TASS Dmitry Kirsanov.

“There is a majority in Congress ready to do the right thing: to open the government and to ensure that we do not step into the abyss,” said the head of the US Treasury on CBC.

The finance minister sticks to the Obama line. He made it clear that the US administration will not compromise with the Republicans.

Dmitry Babich ("Voice of Russia") writes with irony:

“... Obama refused to make any compromises on the state debt, and the lower house of Congress is afraid to let go of this financial weapon. After all, having finally received the money, Obama can take the other proposals of the congress quite in Black-and-Redsky. Remember: "We will put together all your proposals and put them in one place."


"Forgotten man." By John McNaughton - American Patriot Artist


The analyst recalls that for many years the Americans made fun of similar situations with foreign policy partners. For example, they liked to lecture Russian officials in the mid-nineties, when budget disputes were often between Yeltsin and the Duma.

“... Well, do you not like, as they say in America, try your own medicine. For, as the founding fathers said, foreign policy is always only a reflection of domestic. ”


Comrade Babich, in fact, advised America to look in the mirror.

According to Vladimir Zhirinovsky - as always, unequivocal - the US is getting poorer, and they are threatened with disintegration. The dollar as the world's key currency, respectively, will end. In an interview "Voice of Russia" LDPR leader said:

“America is getting poorer. Its economic situation is deteriorating. The dollar as a world currency has no chance for the future. Therefore, in the United States are fighting two forces. The forces of isolationists - they would like America to leave the Middle East, from Europe. And the neoconservatives who wanted to rattle a little with weapons.

Therefore, in the future, of course, America will leave from everywhere and will live like Canada or Australia. And let no one bother anyone in anything! This is the beginning of the crisis that was already in the 1973 year, and 2008 year, and now. And now - the replacement of dollars. And then in general the dollar will leave. Therefore, America has no future. It should fall apart. ”


As for the future default, then, according to Zhirinovsky, such will happen "necessarily".

If the reaction of the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party to disputes between Republicans and Democrats in the US can catch triumphant notes, then Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, is full of alarm. It's no joke: America can turn off not only Europe, but the whole world!

If American politicians fail to avoid default, the global economy can be seriously damaged. This was said the other day by Christine Lagarde, the words which leads Interfax with reference to the BBC.

“Suspending the government’s work is bad in itself, but refusing to raise the national debt ceiling will be much worse and could very seriously harm not only the US economy, but also the global economy as a whole,” said the head of the foundation, speaking to George Washington University students. “Therefore, it is critically important to resolve this issue as quickly as possible.”

However, in recent days, a lot of experts spoke on TV, on the Internet, in print media. Not everyone is predicting the United States, and at the same time the planet Earth, a catastrophe — at least, one that will devour world finances in the last two weeks of October. America can stay afloat by continuing to cut all programs in a row to the maximum and discard future debt financing in principle. At the very least, this means turning the osteochondrosis of the American neck towards the mirror.

Who will see America in the mirror? Those fools and madmen about whom Krugman wrote with contempt? Those foolish mentors who, in their own eyes, do not smell logs that Babich laughed at? Perhaps those political losers whose overall portrait could serve as Barack Obama - the president of crisis time, the man who became the face of capitalist instability? It was not for nothing that Time magazine, when they printed Obama on the cover before the 2013 offensive, picked up almost black for the black president - tragic - background ...

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
Analytical program "However" with Mikhail Leontiev

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  1. os9165
    os9165 11 October 2013 08: 50 New
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    For how many years we say -America krindets. However, the US economy is still the first in the world. And here is just a comparison of the notorious dollar, although it has fallen in price over 12 years by about 30% against the currencies of US trading partners. But we are the best: the day before the default (ours) of 16.08.1998 - 6.29 rubles, now somewhere - 32.24 rubles. The ruble has fallen in price by more than 500%, so to whom is the krindets? Who has defaulted? The troubles of the USA are our troubles, all of them is ours.
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 11 October 2013 08: 55 New
      +3
      Yes, America has long been buried.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 11 October 2013 09: 16 New
        +9
        And what does the rooster on the podium next to Obama mean? smile
        1. a52333
          a52333 11 October 2013 09: 33 New
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          laughing Ha. Rauf, I’ll say right now that this is a warning to Obama that if that goes well, they say look at him — you will accuse me of assaults.
          Well, so that smiled
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 11 October 2013 09: 55 New
            +8
            laughing Alexei, I came to certain conclusions on the representative of the chicken coop, and you on a piece of plastic. Your fantasy is much more advanced. drinks fellow
            1. a52333
              a52333 11 October 2013 10: 02 New
              +2
              I have associated transparent plastic with the screen. and here is an ambush - except for the windshields for a helicopter, I did not see any use. Further applications - well, further on in the text. wink
        2. The gentleman
          The gentleman 11 October 2013 09: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: xetai9977
          And what does the rooster on the podium next to Obama mean? smile

          I just wanted to write, got ahead))) so the rooster is a symbol of the Tolerasts))) and the current state system.
        3. Revolver
          Revolver 11 October 2013 10: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: xetai9977
          And what does the rooster on the podium next to Obama mean?
          Not at all what you thought. And the fact that you most likely thought, that is, 3,14 daras, on the local slang will be faggot or, in short, fag, and it has nothing to do with the cock. But it has to do with Obama.
        4. nik6006
          nik6006 11 October 2013 10: 54 New
          +4
          Until the cock pecks, Obama does not cross himself laughing

          And the cockerel had already precisely aimed, in the dark
          1. AVV
            AVV 11 October 2013 12: 31 New
            +2
            We are waiting for America to draw a kirdyk, then all the values ​​that it imposes on the world will remain in their own national territory, the code Aircraft carriers and other ships will sell on needles at the price of scrap metal, when there will be nothing to charge the nuclear power plants when there will be nothing to launch the satellites, After all, the rover has already been stopped! Everything should be back to America, on its own circles, for its efforts to break up the USSR, Russia and other countries! After all, the debt by payment is red !!!
        5. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 11 October 2013 17: 51 New
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          Quote: xetai9977
          And what does the rooster on the podium next to Obama mean? smile


          Self-promotion.
        6. olviko
          olviko 12 October 2013 07: 24 New
          +1
          "And what does the rooster on the podium next to Obama mean?"

          Well, as in that proverb: "Every rooster thinks that if he does not crow, then the sun will not rise." This is probably a hint at Obama's "exclusivity."
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 11 October 2013 11: 28 New
        +5
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Yes, America has long been buried.


        This process is going nowhere to go without him from the amers. I hope we survive it.
        1. mikkado31
          mikkado31 12 October 2013 03: 37 New
          -2
          most likely stupidly do not wait)))
          1. Rusich51
            Rusich51 12 October 2013 09: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: mikkado31
            most likely stupidly do not wait)))

            Yes, and do not have to wait, it will happen by itself contrary to our and your desires. So relax and enjoy. wassat
      3. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 11 October 2013 17: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Yes, America has long been buried.


        Yes, even the dead obstinate went out, nothing else, as in a zomb turns. Such a person would need an aspen count so as not to twitch ...
    2. SolomonSS
      SolomonSS 11 October 2013 09: 37 New
      +8
      Our government, central bank, etc. artificially support the value of the dollar, Russia has huge investments in the US economy, and it’s just profitable when you sell gas and oil for a dollar, and in Russia it is 33 times more. It is profitable and all. If our management needs it, then 50 rubles will make the price per dollar.
      1. Gennady1973
        Gennady1973 11 October 2013 09: 58 New
        +9
        Oil and gas are needed, it is even necessary to sell for full bullion of gold (like we have during the war) and not for "green" but pieces of paper that are not provided with anything and which they print for themselves as much as they want. As soon as the new budget is raised immediately debt ceiling.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 11 October 2013 21: 13 New
          -1
          Quote: Gennady1973
          Oil and gas are needed, even need to be sold for high-grade gold bullion


          That is, given the lack of bars in Europe, do you propose to stop trade?
        2. Ustas
          Ustas 12 October 2013 09: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: Gennady1973
          Oil and gas are needed, even need to be sold for high-grade gold bullion

          The time has not come yet. That's when the Arab spring begins in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, then you can wrap fins for European consumers, oil in exchange for gold.
          1. michajlo
            michajlo 13 October 2013 01: 44 New
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            Quote: Ustas
            Quote: Gennady1973
            Oil and gas are needed, even need to be sold for high-grade gold bullion

            The time has not come yet. That's when the Arab spring begins in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, then you can wrap fins for European consumers, oil in exchange for gold.

            Hello dear Gennady!

            Fully agree with you. good
            I would only repeat my expression that the "Arab spring" is essentially a "Jewish tripper", and according to your wishes, let it abide in the Arabian Peninsula. smile

            How much good would the world have been from a "quality infection" by them of good fans of the "Sextan Quran" - Wahhabis. angry

            After all, as the proverb says: "Never do to another what you do not want to be done to you yourself!"
    3. Sunjar
      Sunjar 11 October 2013 12: 17 New
      +7
      os9165, for the whole state to collapse, it is necessary not one or two years. The state is a super system with many variables and self-regulating algorithms. The Zugunder process may take 10-20 years, unless, of course, amendments aimed at negative phenomena are introduced into the system. But in the USA they do not. The collapse of the Soviet Union took 40 years. At one time, the United States and the hedgehog with them relaxed on the plunder of Russia and the secession republics (do not even think to tell me that we and our neighbors are being robbed of the same scale). The Western Civilization already in those days was brewing a global crisis. The collapse of the USSR helped them stretch for another 20 years. So you have to poke your nose in other countries. But this is not enough. But habits and the principle of economics are the same.
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 11 October 2013 18: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: Sunjar
        os9165, for the whole state to collapse, it is necessary not one or two years. The state is a super system with many variables and self-regulating algorithms. The Zugunder process may take 10-20 years, unless, of course, amendments aimed at negative phenomena are introduced into the system. But in the USA they do not. The collapse of the Soviet Union took 40 years. At one time, the United States and the hedgehog with them relaxed on the plunder of Russia and the secession republics (do not even think to tell me that we and our neighbors are being robbed of the same scale). The Western Civilization already in those days was brewing a global crisis. The collapse of the USSR helped them stretch for another 20 years. So you have to poke your nose in other countries. But this is not enough. But habits and the principle of economics are the same.

        Dear USSR, they collapsed in one day and three signatures. You’ll think what kind of world power the USSR was. The collapse of the USSR took only a post of Gorbachev, not 40 years. Unlike RUSSIA, the USA does not have so many resources that after the collapse at least somehow tighten the economy. Here in a couple of years we will be sitting on the TV with popcorn (although I like Olivier salad) and watching the news about the collapse of the United States.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 11 October 2013 18: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
          Dear USSR destroyed in one day and three signatures.

          The giant was pushed to the edge of the cliff for a long time, and pushed quickly. You give an example of a result, not an action.
        2. nik6006
          nik6006 11 October 2013 19: 54 New
          +3
          Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
          Quote: Sunjar
          os9165, for the whole state to collapse, it is necessary not one or two years. The state is a super system with many variables and self-regulating algorithms. The Zugunder process may take 10-20 years, unless, of course, amendments aimed at negative phenomena are introduced into the system. But in the USA they do not. The collapse of the Soviet Union took 40 years. At one time, the United States and the hedgehog with them relaxed on the plunder of Russia and the secession republics (do not even think to tell me that we and our neighbors are being robbed of the same scale). The Western Civilization already in those days was brewing a global crisis. The collapse of the USSR helped them stretch for another 20 years. So you have to poke your nose in other countries. But this is not enough. But habits and the principle of economics are the same.

          Dear USSR, they collapsed in one day and three signatures. You’ll think what kind of world power the USSR was. The collapse of the USSR took only a post of Gorbachev, not 40 years. Unlike RUSSIA, the USA does not have so many resources that after the collapse at least somehow tighten the economy. Here in a couple of years we will be sitting on the TV with popcorn (although I like Olivier salad) and watching the news about the collapse of the United States.


          Why there is no popcorn and olivier, not patriotic, we will bite vodka with a cucumber and tomato, and then olivier and condemn HEALTH! drinks
        3. michajlo
          michajlo 13 October 2013 02: 10 New
          +1
          [quote = GREAT RUSSIA] [quote = Sunjar] os9165, so that the whole state collapsed, you need more than one or two years. The state is a super-system with many variables and self-regulating algorithms .... Dear USSR [b], they broke up in one day and three signatures. [/ B] You yourself think what a world power was the USSR. The collapse of the USSR required only a post of Gorbachev, and not 40 years. Unlike RUSSIA, the United States does not have so many resources that after the collapse, at least somehow boost the economy. Here in a couple of years we will be sitting at the TV with popcorn (although I soul salad Olivier) and watch the news the collapse of the United States. [/ Quote]

          Hello dear Ibrahim!

          I allow myself to disagree with you, what you wrote was only "finita la comedia" performed by 3. further "dolls" which "supposedly themselves" took the initiative for the collapse of the Union from the Gorbi & Co pack.

          And the KGB itself has been preparing the comedy, or rather the tragicomedy, which our glorious and faithful ideas of Lenin have been since the mid-70s, promoting the greedy and unprincipled "comedians" pushing for treason to the party apparatus.
          Well, then, in direct friendly cooperation with the CIA, our “brave ex-Chekists" organized and systematically from the beginning of the visible execution of the act of TRIETNESS from 1985 for 4 years destroyed the entire police department and for 6 years "the great and mighty Union" ... fool
          And for 30 years from the beginning of the "announcement of the KGB special operation + CIA_perestroika", only a very small number of people started or wanted to talk and ask, "Why?" what

          And the history of betrayal itself, is worth all of us to know and remember. angry
          Because according to the scenarios of "velvet revolutions" run in the socialist countries / 1989, then they performed "Belovezhskaya Pushcha" / 1991 and "Orange Maidan" / 2004. And the majority of viewers each time believed the new "actors" who said that [b] only they were the faithful sons of their people [/ b], would lead him with a "broad gut to heaven", which essentially leads to the "gates of the meat factory" ...

          What can you object to such "suspiciousness"?
    4. Starfish
      Starfish 11 October 2013 13: 54 New
      +1
      I agree about the common misfortune, I’d like to add about “ours” among them - it’s not like ours, actually. although I personally don’t know you, maybe they really have yours there
    5. turan_up
      turan_up 11 October 2013 13: 58 New
      +5
      16.08.1998/285/1300 the price of gold was $ 450, now it is more than XNUMX. That is, the dollar has fallen in price by XNUMX%. Their problems beat them. And for us, if we allow them.
    6. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 11 October 2013 14: 23 New
      +2
      It’s interesting you think ... But your calculations have a weak relation to put it mildly. This only reflects the speed of the printing press on the domestic market. if the states had not exported the digital dollar, it would have been different. The problem is that now there is a risk that importers will refuse to export the currency due to a drop in the rating of this currency itself. And the filling of the GDP of many states is not material values ​​at all, but services and intellectual property rents. In general, there are many articles on this topic. And nobody knows for sure how the card will fall. But it will be bad for everyone. I will quote- “The suspension of the government’s work is bad in itself, but the refusal to increase the public debt ceiling will be much worse and could seriously harm not only the US economy, but the world economy as a whole,
      1. Ustas
        Ustas 12 October 2013 09: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: fennekRUS
        And nobody knows for sure how the card will fall. But it will be bad for everyone. I will quote- “The suspension of the government’s work is bad in itself, but the refusal to increase the public debt ceiling will be much worse and could seriously harm not only the US economy, but the world economy as a whole,

        Nature, the system is self-regulatory. Who has more resources, not paper wrappers, he will survive.
    7. Russ69
      Russ69 11 October 2013 15: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: os9165
      But we are the best: the day before the default (ours) of 16.08.1998 - 6.29 rubles, now somewhere - 32.24 rubles. The ruble has fallen in price by more than 500%, so to whom is a Krinde? Who has defaulted? The troubles of the USA are our troubles, all of them is ours.

      There is nothing more stupid than comparing the Russian economy in 98 and now. Then, we had everything and everything, with the industry practically stopped. and the fact that now there are different things, even taking into account an unbalanced economy.
    8. Botanologist
      Botanologist 11 October 2013 21: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: os9165
      However, the US economy is still the first in the world.


      Firstly, China began to overtake this year.
      Secondly, what do you think? At the price of stocks and domestic services, or at the price of products?
    9. Ustas
      Ustas 12 October 2013 09: 31 New
      +1
      I agree to suffer my Russian fall in order to see how the monster of the world economy, the USA, crashes. laughing
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 11 October 2013 08: 55 New
    +5
    I only know that the American people - and I have to admit that businessmen too - are tired of the constant transitions from crisis to crisis. ”

    Well, the chosen ones. all the same, does the furry animal come to the Yankees? someone promised to organize a booze on the forum about the US kirdyk.
    1. a52333
      a52333 11 October 2013 09: 34 New
      +6
      Geographically, where will the action take place? drinks I seem to know the answer -YES ANYWHERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 11 October 2013 11: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: a52333
        Geographically, where will the action take place?

        Sakhalinets should have started, but
  3. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 11 October 2013 08: 55 New
    +6
    AMERICA AMERICA - Hallelujah.
    Exclusivity in all its glory.
  4. svskor80
    svskor80 11 October 2013 08: 57 New
    +6
    No matter what happens in the states, so many opinions are immediately announced that the United States is over and in general they are poorer and stupid. And the Americans are somehow living and happily living at the expense of the rest of the world. They will settle down their problems and will prepare some sort of regular scam for hanging noodles for "partners" and other countries.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 11 October 2013 21: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: svskor80
      They will settle their problems and will prepare some sort of regular scam for hanging noodles for "partners" and other countries


      It is doubtful that this was so easy. After all, the rate of increasing public debt is growing very rapidly. And taking into account the fact that it exceeded the GDP, further growth will require either the complete colonization of the rest of the world, or default. And the difference when this happens is not very important - very quickly. For one simple reason - there is simply not so much money in the world to cover the US public debt. That's all the tales are over.
  5. bomg.77
    bomg.77 11 October 2013 09: 01 New
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    I think Obama has been blackmailed for not bombing Syria.
  6. anip
    anip 11 October 2013 09: 13 New
    +1
    America, look in the mirror!

    Yes, she looks. Only her mirror is like in the Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors.
  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 11 October 2013 09: 19 New
    +7
    Hmm, amers are not up to the summits now, they have missed the previous initiative, and this is after not having the best participation in the G-20 .. Isolation. Full.
    1. fktrcfylh.h09
      fktrcfylh.h09 11 October 2013 09: 58 New
      +5
      yes, without war (for which they promised the states 500 yards) it’s hard
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 11 October 2013 09: 24 New
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    America keeps itself at the expense of the printing press of the world currency .. In fact, the whole world lends to her as it’s not a shame, but if the USA collapses the world financial house starts .. and blood flows like a river. It’s still impossible to get away from the dollar .. and the Americans know it hard arming themselves to hold the global economy by the throat.
  9. ReifA
    ReifA 11 October 2013 09: 25 New
    +9
    Another reason to get rid of the dollar soon
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 11 October 2013 09: 40 New
      +7
      quote Who will America see in the mirror?

      Not whom but what he sees-FIGU!!! But how could it be otherwise. In view of moderation, I refrained from posting the picture. The meaning is already clear.

      thanks Oleg hi for an urgent and burning question! good
  10. RUSS
    RUSS 11 October 2013 09: 37 New
    +4
    Quote: xetai9977
    And what does the rooster on the podium next to Obama mean? smile

    Most likely symbolizes the fact that Obama is "hollow", crowing out of business.
  11. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 11 October 2013 09: 42 New
    +9
    from the Don.
    Everything will not be forever under the moon! Sooner or later, Uncle Sam will be hit on the head with a default! It's a matter of time. Amers have many ways to get away from him. And there is a common currency with Mexico, Canada; unleash a war, grab foreign funds in Amer’s banks. !
  12. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 11 October 2013 09: 49 New
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    Maybe our state employees — heroes, military men, atomic scientists, water canals, etc., who ensured the normal existence of the country at the time of the 90’s — should be given some memorial sign, or an honorary title. It’s like it should be in America: there is no money, and all went nafig, I won’t do anything. I remember that in the 90's they showed a guy from Roscosmas on the news that for almost a year, sitting without a salary, he was able to somehow save the doomed satellite, costing several. mill. dollars. So instead of a premium state debts on zp gave out. You see, everything is known in comparison, ours will be stronger. It is also interesting what will happen to them, the hothouse ones, when the food malfunctions go. I, like half of my compatriots, have 6 of their acres for potatoes + fishing rod, and the Americans, will they eat lawn grass?
    1. IllI4
      IllI4 15 October 2013 11: 49 New
      0
      Hearing, they are forbidden to grow products on their plots. I don’t know how true the information is. Maybe someone more in the know?
  13. The gentleman
    The gentleman 11 October 2013 10: 04 New
    +2
    the only thing that bothers how this can affect small countries. it is obvious that most countries are still dependent on a green bill and there is no guarantee that a crisis can aggravate the economies of these countries.
  14. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 11 October 2013 10: 10 New
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    I don’t understand when they say:
    1. If the United States is over, then it will be bad for us, is it better that they print another dollars, so that later it becomes really bad? This is the same as with pension reform or MMM. It is only profitable for the Americans themselves to delay the default in order to live at the expense of others for another ten years. So the default of the United States will serve the hand of the world and Russia.
    2. A bunch of Russian money in the United States, they will disappear. But haven't they disappeared now? In addition, I do not keep a single account in the United States, and you? And what will happen when our rich people try to take money from the United States - not all will give it back, but some will come back, come back, in addition, all accounts will open.
    We’ll wait and see, but it seems to me that they will raise the bar of debt, and do it not for our sake.
    1. Fin
      Fin 11 October 2013 11: 51 New
      +5
      Quote: HollyGremlin
      So the default of the United States will serve the hand of the world and Russia.

      I agree. Sooner or later this should happen, why the next dose to a terminally ill patient, why delay the inevitable. They have no other choice but to forgive everyone their debts. And the fact that clandestine billionaires will lose loot I will not be upset. It will be worse for us, but the "servants of the people" will finally turn on their fat brain, and some will live in a fairy tale.
      Republicans don't give up! No to medical reform!
      1. Rusich51
        Rusich51 12 October 2013 09: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: Fin
        Quote: HollyGremlin
        So the default of the United States will serve the hand of the world and Russia.

        I agree. Sooner or later this should happen, why the next dose to a terminally ill patient, why delay the inevitable. They have no other choice but to forgive everyone their debts. And the fact that clandestine billionaires will lose loot I will not be upset. It will be worse for us, but the "servants of the people" will finally turn on their fat brain, and some will live in a fairy tale.
        Republicans don't give up! No to medical reform!


        Yes, our Abramovich would not hurt to squeeze, robbed people.
  15. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 11 October 2013 10: 29 New
    +6
    Americans so wanted to get on top of the whole world that they didn’t notice how they ended up in a latrine in their ears ...
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 October 2013 10: 32 New
    +2
    But then they printed a new color and probably a new security of dollar bills. Apparently getting ready for something.
  17. Igor39
    Igor39 11 October 2013 10: 40 New
    +4
    I think they themselves do not know what to do. And they want to get rid of the dollar and write off debts and fight somewhere. The USA reached the climax of development somewhere in 2010.
  18. IRBIS
    IRBIS 11 October 2013 10: 49 New
    14
    "... when Obama was printed on the cover before the beginning of the 2013 year, they picked up a black president who was almost black - tragic - the background ..."

    So that’s what is painted on Malevich’s Black Square! This is a portrait of Obama !!! It’s just not visible on a black background ...
  19. Russ69
    Russ69 11 October 2013 10: 51 New
    +8
    Maybe I'm an optimist. But, all the more often, I get the feeling that during my life I will be able to enjoy the collapse of America.
    True, then everyone will get it. But maybe it's worth it ...
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 11 October 2013 11: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: Russ69
      Maybe I'm an optimist. But, all the more often, I get the feeling that during my life I will be able to enjoy the collapse of America.
      True, then everyone will get it. But maybe it's worth it ...


      No one will run away from this. Nothing we in Russia will survive the collapse of America.
  20. igordok
    igordok 11 October 2013 10: 51 New
    +8
    Comment on Youtube for a video with a speech by Barack Obama:

    For those who are too lazy to watch everything, a brief retelling of 1. 2 Republicans are to blame. Health care reform needed (+ a couple of tearful stories) 3 Amazon Amazon 4 ads. 5 Republicans are to blame. Health Reform Website Hangs 6. Bugs in iOS (o_O) 7. 8 Republicans are to blame. Let's raise the level of public debt! 9. America is a cool country, Americans are the best! Everything is accompanied by brooding pauses in the style of Bush Jr. At the end he went and hugged his mother-in-law. Oh yes, still Republicans are to blame
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  22. bubla5
    bubla5 11 October 2013 11: 15 New
    +1
    Every year the same thing, then to increase the public debt, then turn on the machine, and the opposition parties as an effective up to the last do not make a decision, and then enjoy the convulsion of governments around the world sweetly and maniacly launch the machine
  23. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 11 October 2013 11: 25 New
    +3
    Yes, even if she fucked up already, I’m not afraid! negative
  24. Russ69
    Russ69 11 October 2013 11: 54 New
    +4
    An interesting article on the inside of the American movement:
    The Independent Truckers of America published a Facebook appeal that set itself the goal of gathering one million drivers for a truck march in Washington on October 11–13 this year to recreate the constitutional rights of Americans. At the same time, they called on these days to refuse any purchases. After this appeal, their Facebook page was disabled!
    The same closure of the Facebook page occurred with another organization, "Truckers To Shutdown America", after publishing support for calling the march.
    Closing the Facebook page caused the opposite reaction from freedom-loving drivers, they created a web page: RideForTheConstitution.org and opened a new Facebook account on Truckers Ride For The Constitution in which they published their manifesto.
    So on the Guerilla Media Network was created a radio program 'Ride for the Constitution' which broadcasts in support of this movement, and on the ridefortheconstitution.org page Sean Barnes posted a wonderful message entitled "Unity and Integrity":

    More details: http://globalconflict.ru/geopolitics/36932-v-ssha-gryadet-narodnoe-vosstanie-im
    arsh-millionov
  25. Russ69
    Russ69 11 October 2013 11: 56 New
    +4
    The manifest itself.

    "We welcome the American people. We are anonymous. We have come to you with a request to unite, stand up as one. Since together we are strong, we are weak alone.
    The time has come, all f pairs, soldiers and sailors.
    We all rise together. We can no longer allow our small differences to separate us, since we are all Americans together: truck drivers, teachers, students, women, spouses. We are in a vicious cycle of debt that can never be paid.
    We American citizens are losing our freedom, day after day our rights are silently slipping away while we are being distracted by other things.
    We must stick together, put aside our disagreements with other groups that, just as we want: "Peace and Freedom from the tyranny of the federal government."
    The time has come to put aside all our contradictions and unite into one American people.
    Our country is in ruins. More than 40 billion debts continue to grow. Women and children go hungry and die in the streets.
    Our veterans are used as rags when they return home after their service.
    We must stand up, like American citizens, to take back power from tyranny for the people.
    Restore America, what it should be: a country of the free, a country of the courageous, a country of freedom.
    The demands of the people are simple:
    We demand the repeal of the Emergency Powers Act
    We demand the repeal of the Patriotic Act
    We demand that banks be held accountable for their crimes.
    We demand that the Federal Electoral Commission be dissolved
    We demand that criminals in the government be arrested for treason, war crimes and genocide.
    We demand the dissolution of the Federal Reserve
    We require general health insurance that is accessible to all Americans.
    We demand an addition to the constitution that would limit the term of office of politicians
    We demand the dissolution of the National Security Agency, the FBI, the CIA
    Presidential decrees should be prohibited.

    We have even more requirements for the US Government, this list is only the beginning.
    Let's do it like we did in Iceland.
    The time has come. Stand shoulder to shoulder like brother and sister and demand America back to the people.
    We are anonymous.
    We are a legion.
    We do not forgive.
    We will not forget.
    We are American citizens. "

    More details: http://globalconflict.ru/geopolitics/36932-v-ssha-gryadet-narodnoe-vosstanie-im
    arsh-millionov
    1. SPLV
      SPLV 11 October 2013 14: 55 New
      +1
      Interesting requirements. From adequate to absurd. :-)
  26. 270580
    270580 11 October 2013 12: 04 New
    +3
    The collapse of the United States is inevitable =) They will be divided into 50 states with an independent flag and anthem =) alas, but it will be so, no matter how the Americans try, nothing will come of it =) Aleluya! =)))
    1. Rusich51
      Rusich51 12 October 2013 09: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: 270580
      The collapse of the United States is inevitable =) They will be divided into 50 states with an independent flag and anthem =) alas, but it will be so, no matter how the Americans try, nothing will come of it =) Aleluya! =)))


      This is not a dream, it is a statement of fact.
      wassat
  27. True
    True 11 October 2013 12: 05 New
    +5
    Dreaming ... That's right, when you yourself in Peugeot need to yell that the neighbor is doing badly. This is because they have a commodity economy, without production and hopes for its appearance in the near future. Their officials steal billions with impunity. They have Latinos and blacks raped and killed white American women, and who are caught, sent to sit in Mexico. But what is it, the children of American officials study in Russian universities, and the officials themselves are buying up real estate and business in Russia and Belarus .... It’s exactly the end to them!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 11 October 2013 13: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: True
      Dreaming ... That's right, when you yourself in Peugeot need to yell that the neighbor is doing badly. This is because they have a commodity economy, without production and hopes for its appearance in the near future.

      No one says the US economy is weak.
      But there is a big "BUT". The country lives beyond its means, spending much more than earning. Moreover, the correction of the situation has not yet been observed. Plus in the US economy, a large share of services and speculation in the bond market. Which are just the most at risk. the collapse of which causes a chain reaction. The crisis of 2008 and the "Great Depression" of 30 years, proof of this.
      The fact that the economy now resembles a bloated soap bubble, is already said by economists in all countries. And a number of non-dexterous movements can aggravate everything so that little seems.
      Their officials steal billions with impunity.

      They steal and they have a lot, but there are many left schemes covered by lobbying, offshore and more.
      and officials themselves are buying real estate and business in Russia and Belarus ....

      By the way, many officials have business in Russia. starting from a candidate for presidency in the last election, ending with the head of the Guantanomo prison.
      1. a52333
        a52333 11 October 2013 13: 44 New
        +3
        No one says the US economy is weak.
        I say. There is no real sector - dead. All of their zeros are bank, trade and services.
  28. 270580
    270580 11 October 2013 12: 12 New
    +3
    [quote = IRBIS]"... when Obama was printed on the cover before the beginning of the 2013 year, they picked up a black president who was almost black - tragic - the background ..."

    I wonder why they changed their mind about printing on a black background ??? probably merged? =))
  29. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 11 October 2013 12: 42 New
    +3
    So health care is destroying America? Not the trillions of fictitious money that banks drew for themselves? Still, the US is fortunate that there is not a single country in the world that, at the time of the current crisis, would lose its stupid dollars that it had bought before and would drive American patient nail in the coffin.
  30. GUSAR
    GUSAR 11 October 2013 13: 31 New
    +2
    Not tired? I propose to prohibit the publication of articles on the topic “how everything is bad in America and how soon it will collapse”, until the moment when it really collapses
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 11 October 2013 14: 04 New
      +2
      Everything went well, but because of rumors that everything would collapse, everything collapsed. -Wall Street saying.
  31. Curious
    Curious 11 October 2013 13: 46 New
    +8
    America urgently needs war to solve its problems! And America would have unleashed it, but ... Russia, China and some others interfere.

    I would also like to see the collapse of America. I understand that Russia will have some problems, but I am afraid that in the future we will have even greater problems from America.
  32. Chervonets
    Chervonets 11 October 2013 14: 24 New
    +5
    Quote: os9165
    For how many years we say -America krindets. However, the US economy is still the first in the world. And here is just a comparison of the notorious dollar, although it has fallen in price over 12 years by about 30% against the currencies of US trading partners. But we are the best: the day before the default (ours) of 16.08.1998 - 6.29 rubles, now somewhere - 32.24 rubles. The ruble has fallen in price by more than 500%, so to whom is the krindets? Who has defaulted? The troubles of the USA are our troubles, all of them is ours.

    1. While the fat dries, the thin one dies.
    So, the states are still drying. But megatamps.
    2. But Tryndets will come if they do not live on credit.
    How much is their average deficit under Obama? About a trillion a year.
    If 30 billion were pumped into our native Belarus (I counted based on the number) of gratuitous aid per year, then every second of us would already have gold palaces. And if + a printing press ...
    Conclusion - the states of the world bloodsucker and parasite that has long been living in debt. And if he begins to live within his means (well, isn’t it fantastic?), Then a revolution will take place in the country.
    3. Somehow you are selective in the analysis of the ruble and the dollar. You take the dollar for 12 years, and the ruble from a date convenient for you (15 years). No one argues that the liberal 90s are difficult years.
    In October 2001, the ruble to dollar rate was 29,5 rubles. Those. over 12 years, the ruble against the dollar fell by 10-11%
  33. NORILCHANIN
    NORILCHANIN 11 October 2013 15: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: xetai9977
    And what does the rooster on the podium next to Obama mean? smile

    THIS MEANS THAT ABAMA HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED AND NO MOTION, AND THE RUSSIAN SPOKER SAYS THE COCK AT YOUR TIME CROWNED AND THERE WOULD NOT ATTEMPT THERE ANYTHING. THE AMERICANS SHOULD BE UNFULL.
  34. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 11 October 2013 16: 26 New
    +2
    American dollar as a nail in a soft place - sooner or later have to pull out. Yes, it will hurt, it may even bleed and the wound will heal for a long time, but if this is not done, the consequences can be fatal.
  35. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 11 October 2013 18: 25 New
    +2
    The collapse of the United States is just a matter of time. The United States has a national debt of $ 70 trillion, not 16 trillion. The US Army is too huge and highly paid. Any reduction in military spending will no longer help, because reducing military spending is just an attempt to delay the end. The U.S. is facing a terrible scenario: the U.S. does not have large reserves of resources, they have already exhausted them, so after the collapse, those states that formed on its territory will fight for the remaining resources. Canada and Mexico will take advantage of this, who want to take their own piece and send troops and to finance certain states. A couple of years after the collapse of the US Army there will be no trace. It will already be a bunch of people who could survive after the collapse. This is all of course my attempt to predict what will happen after the collapse of the United States on its territory.
  36. Boris63
    Boris63 11 October 2013 18: 51 New
    +4
    Honestly, when I hear: America is the greatest economy in the world. An interesting question arises, "but why did you get so much dough?" Everyone has long known that America is a “soap bubble” and give them a loan so that it does not burst (moreover, they know this is an irrevocable loan to America). And they take debts because they "eat" more than they earn. So what is their economic "greatness."
    I’ll also add how your slogan is: American Federal District of the Russian Federation.
  37. densh
    densh 11 October 2013 19: 14 New
    0
    Many thanks to the Nobel Committee for not giving Obama the Second Peace Prize for NOT striking Syria. Although he strongly disagrees with their current decision. am
  38. APASUS
    APASUS 11 October 2013 19: 41 New
    +1
    If Russia can make a fuss about the gold standard in time, then perhaps everything will not be so sad, although the United States will be on a par with Zimbabwe.
    1. densh
      densh 11 October 2013 21: 13 New
      +1
      In order not to fall into such a situation, America is ready to bomb to the state of Zimbabwe anyone who gets in its way.
      1. Ustas
        Ustas 12 October 2013 10: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: densh
        In order not to fall into such a situation, America is ready to bomb to the state of Zimbabwe anyone who gets in its way.

        Anyone will fail. Although their equipment is modern, the spirit is rather weak. As they begin to receive Lyuli, they will run away, abandoning all the equipment.
        The devil is not so terrible, they are painting him a cookie.
        Draw conclusions.
  39. Achilles Pyatkin
    Achilles Pyatkin 11 October 2013 19: 52 New
    +1
    America is drained ... well, or washed away repeat But Obamycha is really sorry. Black ... and also a loser. A massacre will break out at them; You look, and the bearded army will be transported there. They will cut each other and ... peace will come in the whole world. Well, this is if some sort of desperate "hawk" ominous red button does not press. fellow
  40. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 11 October 2013 22: 08 New
    +3
    Putin once said that the United States, although it is rotting, can rot for a long time, for example, the Roman Empire has rotted for hundreds of years. It looks like cancer (I'm talking about the United States) in the final stage, painkillers need to be in large doses and the process is going on and the end is in theory one. It is obvious that it is impossible to increase the national debt indefinitely. There were rumors that Jewish capital bought up the gold of the countries burying it in the United States, so there is nothing to give it to (in my opinion Germany stuttered last). The papers themselves print (Fed). And now they want to jump off the dollar, but they will pull from all over the world to the last. Ours don't seem
    very moving in this matter, or hope to rot for a long time will sad .
  41. vvpll
    vvpll 11 October 2013 23: 44 New
    +1
    In principle, not everything is as scary for the USA as it seems, there is a way out. You can sell the Chinese something not very necessary, for example, Louisiana.
    Yes, and Putin could help the "partners" and buy a piece of California.
  42. alex.limoff
    alex.limoff 12 October 2013 00: 21 New
    +1
    Of course, I am not an economist, but I will say one thing: in a situation where there is no real economy in the country, that is, industrial production that America and Europe have brought to countries with cheap labor, there will always be a threat of economic and financial crisis. Even a very large mass of money, not backed up by anything, is an empty mountain of pieces of paper. The dollar only holds on to this for the time being that, if my memory serves me, in 1944 or 1945 it was made a means of international financial calculations. But, one day, confidence in this may end. Already, proposals are being made to replace the dollar with other banknotes in a particular region. Europe already has its own EURO.
    Currently, the most real world economy is China. Western countries brought there most of their industrial production, that is, they helped China in industrialization. By the way, China was least affected by the 2008 crisis. Our leaders also have something to think about. In the commodity economy and exchange games you will not go far.
  43. Puler
    Puler 12 October 2013 01: 19 New
    +4
    the American "freedom" looked in the mirror saw there ..... with a scythe ...
  44. Bober
    Bober 14 October 2013 07: 30 New
    0
    together with the money printing press, the master's printing press should be calibrated
  45. FlyEngine
    FlyEngine 14 October 2013 12: 06 New
    0
    You can buy Alaska back from them, for $ 7 million, they will be glad of that.
  46. Bober
    Bober 14 October 2013 12: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Achilles Pyatkin
    America is drained ... well, or washed away repeat But Obamycha is really sorry. Black ... and also a loser

    Come on. Surely he already inscribed his surname GDP in the award list for receiving a hero star and presentation for an extraordinary rank.
  47. Strategist
    Strategist 14 October 2013 17: 25 New
    0
    They will default, redeem cheaper bonds for a penny and no one owes to anyone