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"Russian at all out of work"

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"Russian at all out of work"“In fact, the Stavropol Territory, under the guise of fighting the“ domination of Caucasians, ”has been turned into a colony. He does not receive anything from the sale of grain, ”Maxim Shevchenko told VIEW LOOK. So he commented on interethnic conflicts in the Stavropol region and the appointment of a new interim head of the region.


By 2020, the share of Russian citizens who positively evaluate inter-ethnic relations in the country will increase to 65%, and the level of tolerance towards people of other nationalities - to 85%. Such goals are set by the Ministry of Regional Development, said recently the State Secretary, Deputy Minister of Regional Development Svetlana Ivanova.

Speaking at the discussion platform at the congress of United Russia, which was devoted to discussing the presidential decree of 7 in May 2012 of the year “On ensuring inter-ethnic harmony”, she recalled that at the end of August the federal program “Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation and the ethno-cultural development of the peoples of Russia” was adopted .

Before 2020, 6,8 billion rubles are allocated for it, including 4,6 billion rubles from the federal budget. “In particular, centers for monitoring interethnic relations and call-centers for receiving information about conflicts and pre-conflict situations will be created at the regional level. Rules will be defined for prompt response to such situations and the responsibility of officials if they are inactive. In 2014, it is planned to complete the formation of a federal monitoring system, ”she recalled.

The topic of combating illegal migration, which is directly related to national unity, has also been developed in recent days. Thus, the appointment of the former Yamal Governor Vladimir Vladimirov to the post of the Acting Governor of Stavropol, forced many experts to assume that the tough measures taken by him regarding the problems of migration to the territory of Yamal will be implemented in the Stavropol Territory.

Recall also that on Thursday, President Vladimir Putin spoke in favor of toughening the requirements for migrants and invited the government and lawmakers to think about what kinds of foreigners can be replaced by Russians.

Note that, according to VTsIOM, more than half of Russians were in favor of toughening migration laws and called a large number of visitors a negative phenomenon.

Questions about ethnic relations, illegal migration and the expediency of the new federal program VZGLYAD newspaper were answered by an expert on issues of ethnic and religious politics, journalist Maxim Shevchenko.

VIEW: Maxim Leonardovich, it is obvious that the theme of the unity of the nation today is closely intertwined with the problem of migration. Recently, Stavropol Territory was headed by the former vice-governor of Yamal Vladimir Vladimirov, a local native, Cossack by birth. It is known that the Yamal authorities, using the status of the border zone, simply banned everyone from entering their territory. Is it worth it for Vladimirov to use the Yamal experience in his small homeland?

Maxim Shevchenko: Yamal is a special territory where the population is concentrated around heat sources, that is, cities. Nobody migrates there to settle in the tundra. No one will survive there. And the cities will not accommodate all. A lot of money, but small cities. Therefore, in Yamal, regulation of the migration flow is a forced thing. As for the Stavropol Territory, the experience of Yamal is not applicable there. This is a completely different region. There must be other ways of regulation.

Studying in detail the interethnic conflicts in the Stavropol Territory, I came to the conclusion that this is a criminal-economic conflict, the cause of which is the land. In particular, in the region in recent years, there has been a tendency to transfer pasture lands to arable - under grain sowing.

Why it happens? Stavropol region was one of the largest exporters of meat in the Soviet years. Livestock livestock simply destroyed, cut, it is unprofitable. Today, they sow the land, even pumping it with fertilizers, and after that they take grain, for example through Novorossiysk, to the world market and take money offshore. As a result, Stavropol Territory does not get anything from it at all. Extremely profitable business. In fact, the Stavropol Territory under the guise of fighting the "domination of Caucasians" turned into a colony. He does not receive anything from the sale of grain. The same situation in Mineral Waters. Behind many sanatoriums, which actually represent ruins, and behind many objects of dot building in the resort zone, where nothing can be built at all, there are various offshore companies that withdraw their money abroad.

Or take, for example, the same Neftekumsky district of Stavropol. It was necessary to drive out the Dargins, who drove cattle there from Dagestan for decades, in order to convert the land to a different kind - for arable purposes. And remember the ardent and endless disputes over the Nogai’s hijabs - it was the same attempt to pressure this people to be more arrogant to the lands that should go under grain crops. It turns out that the Stavropol Territory has vast natural resources, but cannot dispose of them, because they are completely criminalized.

The second question is the largest in the region Goryachevodsky market in Pyatigorsk. The owners of this market are Armenians, Greeks, and Jews. Russians in the region are robbed primarily by the bureaucracy. Millionaire collective farms disbanded under false pretenses. Land from the people taken away. Now this land under the guise of the Cossack societies transferred to some joint-stock organizations, which consist of 2 – 3 person, as a rule, atamans. Then these lands are rented to the same Caucasians. Israeli companies also lease land there. The Russians are not at all in business, and the arrows are then transferred to Caucasians, and not to local crime, along with bureaucracy and all sorts of crooks who pretend to be Cossacks.

Migration policy in the region is simply monstrous. Chinese, Vietnamese, Kyrgyz, and Tajik are imported to work in agriculture. Well, if where there is the slave trade in the sense of the illegal use of labor of migrants, then the North Caucasus and the Stavropol Territory here do not lag behind Moscow.

In addition, the Stavropol Territory is very strongly associated with Yamal, because in Nizhnevartovsk Nogai and Kumyk have representative offices. Many families in the Stavropol region are fed by Nizhnevartovsk or Noyabrsk. People work there on a rotational basis and send money from there. I think this is a very clever appointment of a governor. At least, this person was regulating a rather complicated situation in international relations in the North. And I think that if he correctly approaches what is happening in the Stavropol region, he will cope.

VIEW: Now the number of Russians, positively assessing inter-ethnic relations in the country, is only 52%. The Federal Target Program adopted at the suggestion of the Ministry of Regional Development promises to raise this level to 65%, with the level of tolerance towards representatives of another nation compared to today's 53% to 85%. Does it make sense to set such clear-mathematical goals, because the work of the federal target program depends not only on the regions, but also on other factors?

M.Sh .: Of course, setting goals in such detail with interest is difficult enough, because sociology depends on how you ask a question. It is necessary to evaluate not by such indicators, but by the content of the projects that are offered under this program. Although I do not exclude the sociological evaluation of the program. I just don’t know where these 65% come from, but in general, given that nobody in our country used to deal at the strategic level with interethnic relations and diversity of nations, much can be done if you want.

We must look at the specific projects that they proposed. I believe that films, the documentary system — the peoples of Russia, the faces of Russia that go through federal channels — influence the mass consciousness of people to a greater degree. For example, the series, where the main characters are good policemen, for example, Russian and Caucasian. People respond positively to someone with whom they can associate themselves. The representation of the peoples of Russia in works of art, works of popular culture should be the main expense item of the budget, in my opinion. Although, of course, the budget should also be allocated to support national cultural autonomies. Not all people are tied to the territories and have local funding. There is a problem with groups of migrants from other regions, the problem of compatriots, the problem of large cities and so on.

Mass intolerance arises in the presentation of the global image of the “other” or “alien” in the most massively influencing television audience consciousness. Therefore, I would, if it were my will, allocate the main part of this budget for the production of films and serials.

VIEW: One of the articles of the federal program is aimed at improving the investment attractiveness in the regions, including the North Caucasus, which is allocated separately. Is this goal achievable?

M.Sh .: The investment attractiveness of the North Caucasus will not be improved until working mechanisms of state, financial and social development are created there that would be distanced from the corruption schemes. There are no investments in the North Caucasus, not because Caucasians are bad, but because there everything is solved according to the principle “from hand to hand”. In some regions of the North Caucasus, no banks can operate except for those that launder money. And in some regions, for example, in the Stavropol Territory, Karachay-Cherkessia, normal financial and insurance institutions are gradually lining up.

Just so invest without any guarantees no one will. Here comes a man and says: "We have a legal entity, there is a project, give us a billion." But sorry, who guarantees our risks? The bulk of the investment there comes under rollback and cashing. Therefore, the system of normal functioning of public or private financial institutions is not built. And this is not connected with the image, but with economic and corruption problems. When they are resolved, by the way, Alexander Khloponin is now fighting and what Igor Sechin has taken on to some extent, people will start investing in the North Caucasus, regardless of a positive or negative image. Just because it is very cost effective. In the meantime, these investments at the local level are not protected by anything, the risks exceed the possibility of winning.

VIEW: State Secretary Svetlana Ivanova said that at the regional level it was planned to establish centers for monitoring interethnic relations and call centers for receiving reports of conflict and pre-conflict situations. In addition, the creation of centers of tolerance that could promote the culture of other nations of the country was reported in the spring. How much do you welcome such ideas?

M.Sh .: I was a supporter of monitoring centers and wrote this project. It was clearly determined that they would be from themselves, what they would do, what was their meaning. Tolerance centers are something abstract for me. I do not understand what they will do, but they have allocated a considerable amount of money. Are they going to gather people in the audience and talk about all the good things, as in the Soviet era did the society "Knowledge"? For decades, our country has laughed at these societies, their attempts to say: "Yes, love each other!". The Orthodox Church copes with this much better.

So I think that all of this is a fiction that will end in “zilch”, and it’s good if it goes without a scandal. Such issues need to be addressed at the regional and federal levels. And the emphasis in the work should be put on the media, and not to create some nomenclature position and allocate money to them.

VIEW: And if all the same monitoring and a network for monitoring will be created, how will the information gathering be organized?

M.Sh .: It can be organized in a sociological way, which will contribute to the development of regional sociological science, when local sociologists will receive contracts and orders for any research.

Investment, after all, is not only a monetary component, but also a way to bring intellectual forces to the regions. We all the time say that the intelligentsia in the regions is impoverished, so give this intelligentsia work and budget! In addition, there is an empirical way of working with experts, for example, expert interviews. There are always people who understand better than others what is happening and how.

In any case, the centers for the collection of information should be subordinated not to the Ministry of Regional Development, but to the representative offices of the Council on Interethnic Relations under the President in the regions or in the plenipotentiary. Of course, they will interact with the Ministry of Regional Development. However, the task of the executive authorities is to monitor the implementation of laws and budget execution. And political structures, in particular the council under the president, which have no formal status, have great potential. A non-official view of the problem — free, independent, and non-systemic — would allow it to be more accurately and distinctly evaluated.

I have always been a supporter of the development of external outsourcing. After all, any system, whatever it may be, will not whip itself. Any official, even if he sees a problem, immediately realizes that he can be made extreme in this problem, and he will send a more favorable picture to the higher authority than it actually is. This is a property of any system.

And if a person does not have the interests of career growth, he, working on a contractual basis and being taken out of the framework of this system, will give a much more balanced, independent and tough assessment of what is happening.

There is no need to develop internal evaluation structures. In my opinion, they are not able by their nature to give a tough assessment. Even if among them the most honest and advanced scientists work there, no one will allow them to expose the truth, or these assessments will be extremely private and will be held only by the departments of the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

It is external structures, such as the Center for Strategic Studies, that are able to give fair estimates, prepare annual reports, conduct monthly or weekly monitoring depending on the need.

VIEW: In February, a bill was passed to the State Duma, which allows dismissing mayors who indulge in interethnic dissension or allow it. Since October, it has entered into force. Do you support him?

M.Sh .: I do not in any way feel sorry for any mayors and any bureaucrats in general. If they created a system of so-called bureaucratic absolutism in Russia, then let them play by the rules so that any bureaucrat can be taken by the scruff of the neck and thrown anywhere, even in the defendants' bench, even on the street. Here, the idea of ​​controlling bureaucrats is right.

Mayors should not be involved in inciting ethnic hatred and conflict, and even be suspected of their support. After all, all conflicts of this kind have a criminal economic background. There are no pure ethnic conflicts. No nation will hate another just because of the color of their skin, language, or religion. This can only be done by separate groups of marginal thinkers. As a rule, all the conflicts that we know are Kondopoga, Sagra, and Pugachev, have a criminal-economic background.

These are conflicts of hidden groups, as a rule, of a criminal nature, because there is practically no non-criminal business in the regions. They use cash and make illegal or semi-legal transfers of land to a different type of functioning, this struggle is framed with the phrase “Black got it!”. For example, some shout: “The Tajiks flooded everything here!”, And then it turns out that it was all organized against them, for example, the Armenians or someone else. So often masked conflicts between the mafia and drug dealers. There are no conflicts of interethnic, there is a conflict of criminal economic interests, which in the information space hide behind in the form of interethnic or interreligious contradictions.

Therefore, mayors and other leaders who are involved in corruption frauds and solve them through interethnic conflicts should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. This is a double crime - they are involved in the illegal circulation of money and for shielding they use public shaking and interethnic conflicts.
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  1. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 11 October 2013 08: 06 New
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    My opinion is this: the Stavropol Territory should remain Russian. The rest have their own national republics and states - let them go there. I do not like it - shackles on uranium mines !!!
    1. experienced
      experienced 11 October 2013 09: 22 New
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      Quote: Kibalchish
      My opinion is this: the Stavropol Territory should remain Russian.

      Or maybe it's time to start to look wider and recognize the slogan: Russia for Russians !? At the same time, by Russians I mean everyone who has Russian citizenship and lives according to Russian laws and respects the culture and traditions of Russia. On the territory of Russia it is necessary to criminally prohibit the creation of national diasporas, community committees, etc. The manifestation of an aggressive culture must be punished: you dance a lezginka in a club, cafe, restaurant an honor to your skill and praise, you dance it on the street - an administrative article for violating public order and obstructing the movement of pedestrians (wording can be clarified). I shot at the wedding - sit for 15 days and stuff like that ...
      Очень заметно, как начали "поднимать голову" гастарбайтеры, они сейчас начинают ощущать, что их стало много и ведут себя нагло, по прежнему бояться мужиков, но был свидетелем, когда пытались приставать к старушкам и женщинам, приходилось вмешиваться, один раз дошло до драки. Всего 2-3 года назад такого не могло быть в принципе.
      Нам внушают, что русский народ спивается и может работать только в офисах... Дурь полная!!!! Во времена СССР дворниками и на стройках работали исключительно русские и сейчас при соответствующей зарплате и социалке рабочие места грязных, вонючих, больных гастеров займут граждане России. Все чаще вижу, как в сквериках уже группы нерусской молодежи распивают пиво. Нас кормят мифами о "никчемушных, спивающихся" русских и все активнее "разбавляют" дехканами. Идет какая то планомерная политика государства по накачиванию мегаполисов узбеками, таджиками, киргизами... И это при всем при том, что многие из ранее прибывших в Россию сидят и не могут найти работу. Может верхи хотят, чтобы мы сами себя уничтожили?
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 11 October 2013 10: 17 New
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        Hi all!
        Our Huber are changing, we don’t have time to follow.
        About the Chinese, I did not understand at all.
        On the way to Stavropol, I see that those fields that have been empty for many years are now sown. Repaired nightmares. Again, I have little to do with C / X. This is what I observe simply ... The equipment in the fields is new. Well, roads in areas where good, where bad. You can immediately see who is at the helm. Probably so everywhere.
        I will say this, where there is large-scale production, but skilled labor is still needed, 90 percent are Russians. But the situation is fundamentally changing. Apartments in new buildings are actively bought by yourself you know who. I would not be surprised if by 2020 Nevinnomyssk becomes similar to Grozny. That's even going to build a mosque. But so far it does not work out. They just try their strength. The Russians (we) are actively looking at the Krasnodar Territory and even asking about housing. If the government will continue to pursue such a policy then ...
        In this case, the police disappeared somewhere from the streets, in the evening the city was left to its own devices. Priors with the 09 number behave rudely, jackals at the end insolent just already actively show that they are the owners ... In the trunk I drive an ax and a sapper blade. So here it is ...
        1. Jahn
          Jahn 11 October 2013 14: 26 New
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          Himself from Stavropol.i completely agree with you
        2. Altona
          Altona 11 October 2013 14: 39 New
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          So they give you money for your work, and on the 09th Allah ... So they have a competitive advantage ....
        3. old man54
          old man54 11 October 2013 20: 54 New
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          Quote: klimpopov
          Priors with number 09 behave rudely

          а "09" это что за регион? Невкурсе как-то
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 11 October 2013 12: 01 New
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        So often conflicts between the mafia and drug traffickers are masked. There are no conflicts of interethnic, there is a conflict of criminal-economic interests, which are hiding in the information space in the form of interethnic or interreligious contradictions
        T.E. translated from the idiotic language into Russian - when on our streets one ethnic group from the Caucasus is fighting with
        ethnic group from Central Asia, blaming all the blame on a third - this is our internal economic conflict and we must raise the approval of this by another 15% !!!!
        1. drop
          drop 11 October 2013 16: 03 New
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          Awesome.
      3. amigo1969
        amigo1969 11 October 2013 16: 20 New
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        100% agree !!
      4. Starfish
        Starfish 11 October 2013 16: 33 New
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        Recall also that on Thursday, President Vladimir Putin spoke in favor of toughening the requirements for migrants and invited the government and lawmakers to think about what kinds of foreigners can be replaced by Russians.

        already talking about visas with Ukraine. and with Tojikiston there will be no visas
      5. old man54
        old man54 11 October 2013 20: 52 New
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        Quote: seasoned
        Or maybe it's time to start to look wider and recognize the slogan: Russia for Russians !?

        but the current Kremlin power doesn’t think so, alas, a problem! request
    2. True
      True 11 October 2013 10: 13 New
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      Rather, your beloved will send you there. THEY are now the titular nation. They can be killed \ rape \ rob with impunity in the native Russian cities, they do not pay taxes. And you, die out.
    3. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 12 October 2013 13: 36 New
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      Quote: Kibalchish
      My opinion is this: the Stavropol Territory should remain Russian. The rest have their own national republics and states - let them go there. I do not like it - shackles on uranium mines !!!

      I'm sure you're an Israeli nationalist provocateur bad. The Stavropol Territory is Russian and will always be Russian if the provocateurs do not provoke the massacre and force the Russians to leave.
      Any Russian knows that only proven, reliable and qualified specialists work in uranium mines, and they don’t let any trash close to them. Do not repeat Jewish horror stories for wretched idiots.
  2. Denis
    Denis 11 October 2013 08: 08 New
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    The boar fumes, panimash
    He grunted that you can take as much suvirinetet as you can
    President Vladimir Putin spoke out for tougher requirements for migrants
    Alas, there is little to speak out, we are waiting for action

    In the meantime, yourself, everything is in our hands
    I would add to the picture HANG THOSE WHO RICH ON THEM
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 11 October 2013 13: 26 New
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      Meanwhile, in a distant - distant galaxy -

      Премьер-министр Дмитрий Медведев расширил квоту на образование для иностранцев и лиц без гражданства до 15 тысяч человек, что на треть больше, чем раньше. Соответствующее постановление уже размещено на сайте правительства. По словам сенатора Михаила Маргелова, эта мера по привлечению иностранных студентов в Россию является "долгосрочной внешнеполитической инвестицией".
    2. New Russia
      New Russia 11 October 2013 13: 42 New
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      "президент Владимир Путин высказался за ужесточение требований к мигрантам"

      The other day, Vladimir Putin spoke out against the introduction of a visa regime with the countries of Central Asia and the Caucasus, explaining this by the fact that we should not push them away.
      1. MstislavHrabr
        MstislavHrabr 11 October 2013 15: 39 New
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        I am also against visas ... But, it annoys me when illegal migrants are sent home at my expense ... I propose another option. On the basis of former vocational schools and colleges of large cities, we are creating a LABOR ARMY (it must provide for itself) for migrants (migrants are paid for their living and maintenance) with Russian officers. In the army for a period of 2-3 years, we call all male migrants who did not serve in the Soviet or Russian army. During the service, they work in cleaning and landscaping the streets (strictly according to the time in the army), learn Russian and etiquette, last year the services participate in security patrols protecting Muscovites at night, in the end they will receive a residence permit and specialty (welder , turner, cook) ... Evasion of army labor will be pursued by increasing service life and increasing the number of jobs. Entrepreneurs illegally using the labor of non-citizens should participate in paying for their maintenance in the labor of the army.
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        2. New Russia
          New Russia 11 October 2013 15: 43 New
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          "на последнем году службы участвуют в патрулях безопасности охраняющих жизнь москвичей в ночное время" Извините но вы рассуждаете как маленький ребёнок) Они русских в Азии убивали и выгоняли а теперь они наш покой охранять будут? "учат русский язык и этикет" Вы когда нибудь азиата или кавказца видели вообще?) Это смешно. А вообще Путин как раз воплощает в жизнь вашу идею. В менты набирают выродков с юга только не для защиты порядка а для завершения геноцида и порабощения русских
          1. MstislavHrabr
            MstislavHrabr 11 October 2013 22: 21 New
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            Firstly, I wrote about migrants who are not citizens working illegally in Russia. I don’t know why you didn’t like the idea that they first have to work for 3 years free of charge for the good of our Motherland and housing and communal services, learn the Russian language and get a specialty (because an unemployed Asian = a criminal. After all, if you cannot get rid of migrants they need to be somehow organized and control ...
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 11 October 2013 22: 25 New
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              I liked the idea but it is impossible. And it would be easy to drive them out desire.
        3. dark_65
          dark_65 20 October 2013 17: 58 New
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          utopian idealist? to whom? nafik. tofiku, Islam .. and other weapons on my land?
  3. Igor39
    Igor39 11 October 2013 08: 13 New
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    The cops should give orders to torture them, they themselves will leave.
    1. Denis
      Denis 11 October 2013 08: 37 New
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      Quote: Igor39
      Cops give the command to torture checks
      Only who will give it, the mayor on whom they plow?
      It will bees against honey
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 11 October 2013 11: 37 New
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      Quote: Igor39
      The cops should give orders to torture them, they themselves will leave.

      Are you laughing right? they won’t stand up for their own - afraid of losing the feeder.
  4. andrei332809
    andrei332809 11 October 2013 08: 15 New
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    By 2020, the proportion of Russian citizens who positively assess interethnic relations in the country will increase to 65%, and the level of tolerance to representatives of another nationality will increase to 85%.

    Well, yes, yes ... storytellers.
    1. sams
      sams 11 October 2013 10: 20 New
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      Tolerance Centers are planned to be built in 11 regions: in St. Petersburg, Omsk, Tomsk, Novosibirsk, Khabarovsk, Yekaterinburg, Rostov-on-Don, Samara, Nizhny Novgorod, Irkutsk and Birobidzhan. ”
      Minister of Regional Development of Russia Igor Slyunyaev
      The Minister estimated investment in the project at 1,5 billion rubles.
      http://ruskline.ru/news_rl/2013/05/28/doma_tolerantnosti/
      1. Doctor Evil
        Doctor Evil 11 October 2013 11: 07 New
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        sams, я попытаюсь продолжить Ваш комментарий. После постройки "центров толерантности" в недалёком будущем всех обяжут еженедельно/ежемесячно/ежегодно проходить тесты в данных учреждениях. Проходной минимум - 85%. Набравшие менее подвергаются принудительному лечению. Особо нетолерантные рецидивисты направляются в "лагеря толерантности" на исправительные работы во благо общества.
        1. Denis
          Denis 11 October 2013 12: 09 New
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          Quote: Doctor Evil
          Particularly intolerant recidivists
          And the swearing in 4 languages ​​of the USSR to the address of this center will be counted as a manifestation of tolerance?
          1. Doctor Evil
            Doctor Evil 11 October 2013 13: 55 New
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            Denis, will certainly be counted. They will also give a ticket to a correctional sanatorium on the southern shore of Severnaya Zemlya. Ehehe ...
            1. Denis
              Denis 13 October 2013 12: 49 New
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              Quote: Doctor Evil
              certainly counted
              Already grown up, what else are there to Benin’s mom?
              Residents of Biryulyovo took to the streets after the murder of a 25-year-old Muscovite
              Residents of the Moscow region of West Biryulyovo demand that authorities ensure security after a Caucasian native kills a young man, Yegor Shcherbakov, in front of his girlfriend
              According to local residents, on the eve of the young people staged an unauthorized rally, they went outside and blocked roads.
              Maybe already non-meeting will begin?
      2. MstislavHrabr
        MstislavHrabr 11 October 2013 16: 11 New
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        Instead of centers of tolerance, I propose another option. On the basis of former vocational schools and colleges of large cities, we are creating a LABOR ARMY (it must provide for itself) for migrants (migrants are paid for their living and maintenance) with Russian officers. In the army for a period of 2-3 years, we call all male migrants who did not serve in the Soviet or Russian army. During the service, they work in cleaning and landscaping the streets (strictly according to the time in the army), learn Russian and etiquette, last year the services participate in security patrols protecting Muscovites at night, in the end they will receive a residence permit and specialty (welder , turner, cook) ... Evasion of army labor will be prosecuted criminally or by increasing the length of service and increasing the number of jobs. Entrepreneurs illegally using the labor of non-citizens should participate in paying for their maintenance in the labor of the army.
  5. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 11 October 2013 08: 20 New
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    To blame everything on crime and corruption is easy, however, the causes of the problems of STAVROPOLIA are deeper and inextricably linked with the general condition of RUSSIA.
    Therefore, to solve the problem of migrants and in general the national question should begin with a change in the position of the KREMLIN.
    Betting on tolerance for democracy and other floods is not worth it.
    There are old proven methods like in AUSTRALIA where a law is passed for those who are not satisfied with the laws and traditions of the host country are sent without talking.
    In RUSSIA, this must be done a long time ago.
    1. Denis
      Denis 11 October 2013 08: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: Lech from our city
      Betting on tolerance for democracy and other floods is not worth it
      Somehow you are talking softly
      Is betting suicidal or does the experience of geyropa not teach anything?
      1. Lech from our city
        Lech from our city 11 October 2013 08: 46 New
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        The Kremlin leadership is not teaching, it is still looking for a nationwide idea that can unite an Islamist militant from the mountains of ICHKERIA and Lehu, an electrician from NOVOSIBIRSK hehe utopia in a fantasy style.
        1. True
          True 11 October 2013 10: 22 New
          +5
          The Kremlin leadership is not teaching, it is still looking for a nationwide idea that can unite an Islamist militant from the mountains of ICHKERIA and Lehu, an electrician from NOVOSIBIRSK hehe utopia in a fantasy style.
          It just does its job. It sees everything, understands everything. It’s just that the occupation authorities have such a job — to ruin everything to the maximum, and finally to arrange a civil one, so that they won’t rise up. Or am I the only one to think so?
    2. vkrav
      vkrav 11 October 2013 15: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: Lech from our city
      To write off everything for crime and corruption is easy

      This is for Russians crime and corruption, and for mountain animals - a traditional way of life.
  6. mirag2
    mirag2 11 October 2013 08: 21 New
    +5
    А министерство финансов вместо того,что бы дать фермерам денег на ГСМ-предложило эти деньги отдать на Дальний Восток-пострадавшим от наводнения.Представляете?Что бы не увеличивать расходы-"оптимизировать" другие денежные направления.
    These are holy things! They must not be touched! People WORK in the sweat of their face, they produce a strategic renewable resource — which grandmother brings us by the way. Here is this bitch who thinks so and has such a formal attitude to her work that needs to be sent to prison. That would be done by Stalin. And he did so. he planted who were these people who are now yelling-Oh, oh Stalinism has returned! Yes, he has returned! Because we don’t need goats like them.
  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 11 October 2013 08: 26 New
    11
    Monitoring centers, the study of which, -the relationship of Russians to Caucasians and Central Asians ... ha, but not easier to scroll through the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...,TOLERANCE CENTERS ??? - this is probably the administration of cities and regions, because there the attitude towards migrants is more than supportive ..
    1. Denis
      Denis 11 October 2013 08: 43 New
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      Quote: Valery Neonov
      city ​​and district administrations
      So he is half-open. The mayor is the administrator, and the other owner of the construction sharaga
      If not himself, then through his wife-mother-in-law-nephews for sure
  8. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 11 October 2013 08: 27 New
    +7
    M. Shevchenko is too tolerant of Muslims. Why would.
    1. Essenger
      Essenger 11 October 2013 08: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: FC Skif
      M. Shevchenko is too tolerant of Muslims.

      Should he be radical to them?
      1. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF 11 October 2013 11: 24 New
        +2
        No, it just sometimes seems that he is biased towards them either because of religious and moral affinity, or because of material gain.
        1. Essenger
          Essenger 11 October 2013 11: 57 New
          +4
          Mahmoud Chichenko?))) The second option is closer, I think
    2. Zhenya
      Zhenya 11 October 2013 08: 52 New
      +2
      FC Skiff It follows only a tendency, and which word is wretched ... tolerance ...
    3. Lakkuchu
      Lakkuchu 11 October 2013 09: 57 New
      +1
      The point is not Shevchenko’s tolerance, but the fact that he, unlike most idle talkers who like to talk about the Caucasus, but who have never been there, knows about local problems not by hearsay and not from mass misinformation. He has been studying this region for several years, it often happens here, so he has a more complete picture of the processes taking place in the Caucasus. Naturally, many people’s opinions do not suit him, it’s easier not to notice economic problems and reduce everything exclusively to a popular and convenient confrontation based on ethnicity.
  9. a52333
    a52333 11 October 2013 08: 33 New
    +5
    Behind many sanatoriums, which are actually ruins
    Something I did not see when I was on a business trip, ruins. Beatik sanatoriums. Two hours on Pyatigorsk traveled - busy. This is with the price tag 5000 per room per day. Clean, well maintained. As a result, we stopped at the Minvody in a roadside hotel 20-ty km from the place of work. Loved the city. Then the author has thickened the paint.
  10. MrFYGY
    MrFYGY 11 October 2013 08: 34 New
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    Tolerance is the way to destroy the nation.
  11. mak210
    mak210 11 October 2013 08: 35 New
    +4
    In the damned Soviet times, when we hardly heard about nationalism, there was an unofficial practice - the second person in the government was Russian-speaking, and, as a rule, with the powers of the first. Now will you find Russians in small but proud governments? No capital investments are needed for this, since all the first persons are appointed in tandem and this may be one of the conditions. And do not forget that in the Stavropol Territory, the dominance is not of migrants, but of our Russian citizens, maybe we’ll build outposts with the Karatsups and Dzhulbars. What is the bazaar about?
  12. pinecone
    pinecone 11 October 2013 08: 43 New
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    There are no conflicts of interethnic, there is a conflict of criminal-economic interests, which are hiding in the information space in the form of interethnic or inter-religious contradictions.

    Очень поверхностное, примитивное суждение, оставляющее в стороне вопросы культуры, языка, расы, религии и национальных традиций. Более того, так называемое "информационное пространство" (СМИ), как раз и сводит проблему к столкновению криминально-экономических интересов, в то время как жителям Русских земель просто противно совместное проживание со стремительно нарастающей чужеродной массой незваных пришельцев с Востока. С учётом демографической ситуации, речь идёт о процессе замены коренного населения страны иностранными оккупантами.
  13. Sunjar
    Sunjar 11 October 2013 08: 46 New
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    Shevchenko speaks about the case for almost all things: he suggests combating crime and corruption. Only for some reason he does not mention the fact that Caucasians themselves are, according to the history of development, and therefore, in life, they are thieves, robbers, murderers. From childhood they are taught to take away from the weak what you need, that a real man should not work (this is only for SLAVES). Shevchenko also did not mention that in the Caucasus the selection of personnel is through personal connections, and not talent, determination, and education of a person. From there, bribery and banditry in business are growing. What is correct, he said that all corrupt officials should be sentenced mercilessly, regardless of nationality.

    Oh yes. Recently, news appeared that the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation ruled that the ban on being convicted of serious crimes is an unconstitutional ban on being elected to power structures (deputy, governor, well, president, for example, etc.). So now it will be possible for thieves on a large scale, rapists, murderers to run for deputies, mayors, governors, etc. Octagon served time for rape, was released and welcome to power. Promote laws to protect rapists, burglars, killers. It turns out that the terrorists who are released can also be thrust into power later.

    Hooray, comrades. Finally, civilization has reached us. That’s how we’ll heal. Mmmm.
  14. Savva30
    Savva30 11 October 2013 08: 54 New
    10
    Прочитал, проанализировал...правители,чиновники народ не слышат и не планируют этого делать. Вывод: нужно в каждом населенном пункте создавать общественные объединения "русские диаспоры" и отвоевывать свое законное право под российским солнцем!
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 11 October 2013 08: 55 New
    +5
    Как всегда в нашей стране:и мухи и котлеты-всё в одну кучу.Да ничего и никто не будет делать-просто нет политической воли.Выхода из этого безобразия два:-первое полностью поменять правящую "элиту";второе- народу браться за вилы и самому попытаться восстановить справедливость.Но это невозможно так как все руководители из ЕдРа,а эти своих не сдают и тут же поднимется рев о экстремизме и т.д.!(в чем мы убедились на примере конфликтов в разных регионах России,которые эти деятели и развязали)Возвращаемся к тому,что высмеивал еше А.В Суворов,когда его спросил государь,что для Суворова может сделать:"...а сделай меня немцем государь"!(так раньше у нас называли иностранцев)
  16. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 11 October 2013 09: 01 New
    10
    Неужели в правительстве и лично Путин, не чувствуют угрозу для России в попустительстве по отношении к бесконтрольной миграции чужеземцев? Или это умышленно делается, под маркой "толерантности" хотят столкнуть лбами народы, так сказать "внести свою ЛЕПТУ" в уменьшение численности народонаселения Земли? Что-то русским по национальности, ну никак не пробиться на ПМЖ из бывших Союзных. Знаю лично 2 семьи, больше года назад подали на гражданство, до сих пор ни ответа - ни привета!
    1. Essenger
      Essenger 11 October 2013 09: 12 New
      -8
      Quote: ia-ai00
      I personally know 2 families, more than a year ago they applied for citizenship, still no answer - no greetings!

      I hope one of the two families is yours)))))))
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 11 October 2013 09: 42 New
        +4
        And do not expect !!! YOU can’t get rid of me! In general - do you also send ??? - to ban? You have some PAINFUL imagination, something - YOU perceive everything in your address, MENTIVE YOU are ours.
        Something among those arriving in Russia and in particular in Moscow - KAZAKHOV - I do not see point blank. We are talking about peoples where Wahhabism is developed, Kazakhs, thank God, do not belong to these ethnic groups. Yes, there are Kazakhs who work in Russia, just like the Russians work in Kazakhstan, but this is - специалисты, and they are not going to change permanent residence, and not Gaster, who can perform only the most unskilled types of work. And besides, some of them are pure crime, and a significant part of them are Wahhabis.
        1. Essenger
          Essenger 11 October 2013 14: 13 New
          -1
          Quote: ia-ai00
          And do not expect !!!

          Hope dies last)))

          Quote: ia-ai00
          You can’t get rid of me!

          У меня нет такой цели, просто было бы хорошо избавиться от "пятой колонны")))

          Quote: ia-ai00
          But in general - to send you too ???

          Try it, but this is my homeland.

          Quote: ia-ai00
          to ban?

          your right)))

          Quote: ia-ai00
          Something I'm among arriving in Russia

          Thank God there is nothing to do in a fascist country. It's not safe.
          1. TS3sta3
            TS3sta3 11 October 2013 15: 29 New
            +4
            меня нет такой цели, просто было бы хорошо избавиться от "пятой колонны")))

            мои родители строили казахстан, а теперь они "пятая колона" оказывается.
            Try it, but this is my homeland.

            this is our land, many of my relatives lived, worked, built here, and are buried here, but what have you done for your homeland? just dream of driving away all the non-Kazakhs? disgrace only your nation.
            Thank God there is nothing to do in a fascist country. It's not safe.

            "on the thief and the hat is on."
            1. ia-ai00
              ia-ai00 11 October 2013 16: 25 New
              +1
              Всё верно! И мои родители строили Казахстан, у меня десяток газет о делах моего ОТЦА, я всю жизнь работаю в энергетике, что бы у него лампочка ИЛЬИЧА горела,а вот пусть он, этот "господин" расскажет, когда его вернут на сайт, что он полезного сделал. Самый настоящий оголтелый НАЦЫК. А может это агент цРу здесь "укрепляет ДРУЖБУ народов" таким образом?
            2. Essenger
              Essenger 11 October 2013 19: 29 New
              -2
              Quote: TS3sta3
              мои родители строили казахстан, а теперь они "пятая колона" оказывается.

              This is personally written to her))) So please calm down and do not get excited)))
  17. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 11 October 2013 09: 01 New
    +3
    Неужели в правительстве и лично Путин, не чувствуют угрозу для России в попустительстве по отношении к бесконтрольной миграции чужеземцев? Или это умышленно делается, под маркой "толерантности" хотят столкнуть лбами народы, так сказать "внести свою ЛЕПТУ" в уменьшение численности народонаселения Земли? Что-то русским по национальности, ну никак не пробиться на ПМЖ из бывших Союзных. Знаю лично 2 семьи, больше года назад подали на гражданство, до сих пор ни ответа - ни привета! Видимо не хотят менять %%-ное соотношение, в пользу русского населения.
  18. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 11 October 2013 09: 20 New
    14
    "К 2020 году доля граждан России, положительно оценивающих межэтнические отношения в стране, возрастет до 65%, а уровень толерантности к представителям другой национальности – до 85%. Такие цели ставит перед собой Минрегион, заявила на днях статс-секретарь, замминистра регионального развития Светлана Иванова." I suggest that Svetlana Ivanova settle with Tajiks or any other migrants to choose from in the same hostel and live there until 2020. Let then tell us how many percent she personally has increased the level of tolerance.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 11 October 2013 10: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: Doctor Evil
      I offer Svetlana Ivanova to settle with Tajiks or any other migrants to choose from in the same dormitory and live there until 2020

      Why do we need so many illegally born Tajiks with the name Ivanov? laughing
  19. Gennady1973
    Gennady1973 11 October 2013 09: 40 New
    +3
    "До 2020 года на нее выделяется 6,8 млрд рублей, в том числе 4,6 млрд рублей из федерального бюджета. «В частности, на региональном уровне будут созданы центры мониторинга межнациональных отношений и call-центры по приему информации о конфликтах" А не пробовали эти деньги реально потратить, не рапилить ,а вложить как надо, действительно в мир и дружбу!Ну хоть какую никакую листовочку выпустите...плакатик нарисуйте,если денег хватит...Что "Калл"центры дадут?
  20. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 11 October 2013 09: 43 New
    0
    Is there anyone else from me from Stavropol?
    1. GDP
      GDP 11 October 2013 10: 16 New
      +8
      :) I read such articles and you feel that our authorities and the elite live in another dimension altogether ....
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 11 October 2013 17: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: GDP
        you feel that our authorities and the elite live in another dimension altogether ....

        And there is.
  21. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 11 October 2013 09: 45 New
    +8
    The whole article is about what matters in Caucasians, but local crime ... of whom it consists of the basics, let me think, probably from Gypsies. Whoever told me that Caucasians have nothing to do with it. and all local authority is up to crime, I won’t believe ... everything is mixed up there and people from the mountains too, so you don’t need to whitewash them.
    Yesterday, walking not far from the Red Square, I watched as 3 thumpy (really staggering out of the blue) natives of the sunny republics, pulled up a guy with a girl, mentality or traditions, whatever they wanted and how it ended, but just cops stood by and that they stared silently, as if they don’t remember how *** when the people gathered right there, at the Manezh for the first time, and all because of the same visitors?
  22. understudy
    understudy 11 October 2013 09: 51 New
    +6
    "By 2020, the proportion of Russian citizens who positively assess interethnic relations in the country will increase to 65%, and the level of tolerance to representatives of another nationality will increase to 85%. The Ministry of Regional Development sets such goals, the state secretary, deputy minister of regional development Svetlana Ivanova said the other day.." (with)
    ___________________
    Вот этих вот, которые без тени сомнения, ляпают подобное, откуда их берут??? По каким физическим и иным признакам приобщают к власти??? Они, вообще, по земле ножками когда-нибудь ходили??? "Страшно далеки они от народа..." (с)
    1. True
      True 11 October 2013 12: 18 New
      +1
      You read in other branches, here such 70%
    2. grafrozow
      grafrozow 11 October 2013 12: 25 New
      +7
      Quote: Understudy
      Вот этих вот, которые без тени сомнения, ляпают подобное, откуда их берут??? По каким физическим и иным признакам приобщают к власти??? Они, вообще, по земле ножками когда-нибудь ходили??? "Страшно далеки они от народа..." (с)
      Our POWER SERVICE OF THE PEOPLE !!! They just didn’t say which PEOPLE ???
  23. GDP
    GDP 11 October 2013 09: 55 New
    16
    Delusional harmful, deceitful and dangerous thoughts. I know firsthand the state of affairs in the Stavropol Territory in its various settlements
    1 lie. Dagestanis are driven from their lands under the pretext of tightening migration policies - This is complete nonsense. It's just the opposite!

    Dagestanis bought all the mills and elevators. They control 90% of grain trade artificially lowering prices when buying grain from farmers, and then sharply increasing prices for final products. They control all types of trade, use dumping levers of pressure and actually suppress and completely control the indigenous population in this matter. They are not constrained by any methods up to raiding and racket.

    Dagestan, as well as Moscow, actually crushed everything for themselves, squeezing the local economy from two sides and seizing all the tidbits, leaving only the leftovers from the master's table local.

    In terms of migration, the Stavropol Territory was actually sacrificed and hostages to the republics of the North Caucasus. So that the Moscow authorities could sleep peacefully at the expense of Us!

    From the eastern and southern regions for 20 years there has been a mass exodus of the Slavic population.
    The authorities, especially after they began to be appointed from above (by Putin), do nothing, but rather contribute in every way to this.
    In the same Levokumsk region where before Caucasians there was 5% of power now their percent 50%
    They behave impudently with the Russian population, feeling their complete impunity. There can be no talk of tolerance; they only remember it when it is beneficial to them.

    I am not saying that Dagestanis and Caucasians as a whole are all like that, there are great people, just the general background - such!


    As for the theft of grain, it was always done at the highest level, starting from the governor and lower, down to the very bottom.

    There were even such schemes when Stavropol grain was sold to Dagestan, and then returned to the Stavropol Territory, in fact, it was bought back at a higher price.

    Stavropol Territory really turned into a colony. To the colony of Moscow and the republics of the North Caucasus.

    Stavropol Territory occupy a unique geographical position. A stronghold of Russia in the North Caucasus has long been here. A purely Russian region (until recently), surrounded on all sides (except the northwest) by the North Caucasian republics. In fact, this is the key and guardian of the Caucasus. Was ...
  24. understudy
    understudy 11 October 2013 10: 03 New
    +4
    "Up to 2020 years на нее выделяется 6,8 млрд рублей, в том числе 4,6 млрд рублей из федерального бюджета..."

    "В Краснодарском крае in 2014 - 2016 выделят свыше 3,1 млрд рублей на реализацию программы "Кубанское казачество..."
    ________________________________
    Compare this figure ...
  25. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 11 October 2013 10: 15 New
    20
    Сам из Пятигорска. Больше всего умиляет посыл что гордые горские мальчики ну просто душки и всё это специально придумано чтобы у них исконные земли для выпоса скота забраь. Автору не просто минус а "пошёл ты на х***й су***а". А всем остальным скажу Ставрополье очень скоро станет Российским Косово естественно в отличии от Сербов мы не уйдём отсюда страны немножко разные но кровь польётся рекой. Естественно если власть не будет ничего делать. Я не нацианолист прошу меня понять правильно. От этого пострадают все и Чеченцы и Кабардинцы и Карачаевцы все. Власть не понимает менталитет горцев. При всём моём уважении, а у меня есть друзья и Чеченцы и Кабардинцы, а самое главное это их мнение тоже. Если горец чуствует что наказания нет он начинает вытирать ноги об эту власть и тем более народ который хотим мы или нет эту власть олицетворяет. Кадыров творит что хочет и у себя в республике которую превратил в собственный султанат и вокруг. Уверен за всеми покушениями на Евкурова стоит он.Его не трогают он друг фарисея номер один. Все чеченцы совершившие преступления даже тяжкие под разными предлогами вытаскиваются в Чечню и там отпускаются по УДО. Поэтому они понимают можно делать что хочешь. Студенты из республик на лекции ходят все повторяю все как минимум с травматами. Вообщем власть опомнись кровь кавказа будет на твоих руках и в веках вы власьимущие будете прокляты и не будет счастья вашим детям и внукам посмотрите на примеры детей и внуков ваших предшественников Сталин Берия Хрущёв Брежнев, что стало с их детьми не навлекайте на себя проклятия народа.
    1. Denis
      Denis 11 October 2013 12: 15 New
      0
      Quote: kapitan281271
      do not bring upon yourself the curses of the people
      Is it at least one of them stopped, alas ...
  26. Astartes
    Astartes 11 October 2013 10: 41 New
    +6
    From all the comments it is clear that by some year there will not be 85% tolerant.
  27. Averias
    Averias 11 October 2013 11: 32 New
    +3
    Цитата из статьи: "Кроме того, Ставропольский край очень сильно связан с Ямалом, потому что в Нижневартовске ногайцы и кумыки имеют представительства. Многие семьи в Ставрополье кормятся за счет Нижневартовска или Ноябрьска."

    Ребята, глобус то покрутите, причем тут Нижневартовск и Ямал(я в Нижневартовске 20 лет прожил). Нифига себе "басню сократили" :-)
  28. grafrozow
    grafrozow 11 October 2013 12: 17 New
    +4
    the former Yamal governor Vladimir Vladimirov has led many experts to suggest that the tough measures taken by him regarding the problems of migration to the territory of Yamal,
    Наглая ложь,ни каких жестких мер,достаточно пройти по городу,чтобы увидеть эти "меры".А то ,что творится в Н.Уренгое-филиал Кавказа.Обещали сделать закрытым Ямал, но так и не сделали,на месторождения без пропуска не пропустят,а в городе живи как хочешь,менты продажные,ФМС видимость работы создает.Каждое утро,возле нашего рынка "Северный Гостиный Двор",сидят бригады гастарбайтеров-местная власть не видит.Ни чего нового на Ставрополье Владимиров не сделает,перетащит с Ямала свою "команду" и заживут на Юге счастливо и богато,опыт общения с диаспорами у него богатый...
  29. visuvius
    visuvius 11 October 2013 12: 25 New
    +5
    Please do not forget about Saratov. I myself saw a local policeman in the village went to interview people who robbed a school and a garden. He went to the gate of the Chechens, but they just sent him and he all turned around and went on .... - You know the power.
  30. TROG
    TROG 11 October 2013 13: 13 New
    +5
    By 2020, the proportion of Russian citizens who positively assess interethnic relations in the country will increase to 65%, and the level of tolerance to representatives of another nationality will increase to 85%.

    Here at the expense of migrants (future type rosiyan) and raise ...
  31. sergant89
    sergant89 11 October 2013 13: 19 New
    +9
    Quote: grafrozow
    Наглая ложь,ни каких жестких мер,достаточно пройти по городу,чтобы увидеть эти "меры".А то ,что творится в Н.Уренгое-филиал Кавказа.Обещали сделать закрытым Ямал, но так и не сделали,на месторождения без пропуска не пропустят,а в городе живи как хочешь,менты продажные,ФМС видимость работы создает.Каждое утро,возле нашего рынка "Северный Гостиный Двор",сидят бригады гастарбайтеров-местная власть не видит.Ни чего нового на Ставрополье Владимиров не сделает,перетащит с Ямала свою "команду" и заживут на Юге счастливо и богато,опыт общения с диаспорами у него богатый...


    I absolutely agree with you! The former mayor of the city of Nov. Urengoy and now the governor of the Khanty-Mansiysk District Komarova lived in a civil marriage in the city of N. Urengoy with a Chechen who drove a black hammer throughout the city and immediately crawled into all gas production structures and oil, all trading under Azeri, cargo transportation and transport under the daggi, everywhere of the diaspora and in real life there are criminal organizations in the law, I live near N. Urengoy, I have the feeling that you live somewhere in Dagestan, believe me there is something to compare born and raised by Caucasus, cops fear all prosecutors Hurray put everyone in a pose. They cannot defend themselves and all the more subordinate to the local authorities who pay their salaries, what kind of fight against corruption can be discussed, do not believe me alone, but many acquaintances and friends constantly have the question of ethnic war it is here on the Yamal Peninsula, I'm not talking about the Caucasus. And since when Maxim Leonardovichbecame a specialist in the Caucasus, one middle name says everything.
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 11 October 2013 20: 21 New
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      Quote: sergant89
      , I live near N. Urengoy a feeling that you live somewhere in Dagestan
      Pangody-little Tbilisi? I'm in Nadym. drinks
  32. New Russia
    New Russia 11 October 2013 13: 21 New
    +8
    "К 2020 году доля граждан России, положительно оценивающих межэтнические отношения в стране, возрастет до 65%, а уровень толерантности к представителям другой национальности – до 85%. Такие цели ставит перед собой Минрегион, заявила на днях статс-секретарь, замминистра регионального развития Светлана Иванова."
    You can’t even comment on this nonsense; during this year the number of people who hate migrants doubled and reached 55%.

    Maxim Shevchenko hates Russians like all Putin’s experts. His words speak for themselves.

    “... Caucasians? are “trendsetters,” at least they should be. They should be trendsetters precisely in terms of gaining formats of freedom, democracy and a normal society. ”

    "Кавказцы интеллектуальная элита России."

    “The historical mission of the Russians is to abandon their national statehood”

    "Я, например, считаю, что приток азиатского населения увеличивает дистанцию между Россией и ЕС, а, стало быть, служит фактором сохранения территориальной целостности РФ"

    "Максим Шевченко обеспокоен усилением русских на Ставрополье в связи с переселением казаков из Средней Азии
    Губернатор Ставропольского края Валерий Зеренков намерен помочь с переселением в свой регион 6 тыс. казаков из Средней Азии. Они должны усилить казачество Ставрополья, оказывающее активную помощь в охране правопорядка. Одна из главных целей приезжих казаков – заселить пустующие земли на востоке края, считает атаман Ставропольского казачьего войска Дмитрий Стригунов. У эксперта по Кавказу Максима Шевченко свой взгляд на ситуацию – он уверен, что «под предлогом переселения русских идет циничный захват земель для пользования тех или иных семей, крупных собственников, корпораций» и «казачество здесь вообще ни при чем». По словам губернатора Валерия Зеренкова, к 2018г. около 6 тыс. казаков-семиреченцев переселятся из Средней Азии в Ставропольский край. Специальная краевая программа для переселенцев рассчитана на 2014-2017гг."
  33. New Russia
    New Russia 11 October 2013 13: 31 New
    +7
    Putin listened to the demands of the people and agreed to introduce a visa regime .... No, not with Asia. with Ukraine!)
    Two “good” news were given by Advisor to the President of Russia Sergey Glazyev against the background of emerging European integration of Ukraine:

    1) Visa regime may be introduced with Ukraine.

    2) Within the framework of the Customs Union, into which they are actively trying to drag Kyrgyzstan with Tajikistan, they can generally cancel passport and visa controls.
  34. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 11 October 2013 13: 45 New
    +7
    "Россия для русских и по-русски" - Александр Третий, Российский император.
    V.V. Putin, President of Russia:
    1. drop
      drop 11 October 2013 16: 08 New
      +1
      This is talented.
  35. bubalik
    bubalik 11 October 2013 14: 37 New
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    САМАРА, 25 июля. В старейшем татарском селе Алькино (Гали) Похвистневского района Самарской области местные жители выгнали ваххабитов из мечети и добиваются их отъезда из населенного пункта. Как сообщил корреспонденту "Росбалта" руководитель Приволжского центра региональных и этнорелигиозных исследований РИСИ Раис Сулейманов, на собрании прихожан в мечети было принято "Обращение к представителям радикального течения в исламе, проживающих на территории села Алькино".








    "Наблюдая за вашими действиями, внешним обликом, поведением, жители села пришли к выводу (и изо дня в день в селе убеждаются в этом), что вы, поселившись в нашем селе, ввели в заблуждение жителей села, сельскую интеллигенцию, представителей духовенства в том, что вы так же, как и жители села, относились к мазхабу Абу Ханифы. Однако все ваши деяния и внешний вид противоречат данному заявлению. Вы пользуетесь любым методом втягивания молодежи в секту: в транспорте, в школе, в мечетях, при любых встречах и т.д. Отращивание длинных бород, оставление открытыми женщинами только глаз – это лишь введение в заблуждение жителей села, чтобы возникло мнение о вашей богобоязненности… Жители требуют, чтобы вы покинули наше село, т.к. вы, будучи представителями ваххабизма, являетесь носителями невежества и вреда всему населению села", — говорится в обращении.


    Rais Suleymanov believes that what happened in Alkino is a rare case when villagers drive out Wahhabis, tired of enduring their dominance.


    "Если сравнить ситуацию с Пензенской областью и Мордовией, где в крупных татарских деревнях, как правило, ваххабиты одерживали верх над сторонниками традиционного для татар ислама ханафитского мазхаба, рейдерским способом захватывая мечети, находя поддержку у различных московских шейхов, то в Самарской области ситуация противоположная: деревенские татары, раскусив замыслы ваххабитов по духовной обработке молодежи, требуют от них немедленно освободить мечети и даже вообще покинуть село", — заметил эксперт.
    More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/federal/2013/07/25/1156646.html
    The media did not cover this much, and when they burned the Wahhabis' houses, they did not write about it at all.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 11 October 2013 14: 51 New
      +6
      For locals they can come) How did they come for the residents of the Altai village only because they demanded to expel the degenerates.

      The investigating authorities of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for the Altai Territory opened a criminal case on the grounds of a crime under Part 1 of Art. 282 of the Criminal Code (incitement to hatred or enmity).

      According to the investigation, in June 2013, at the administration building of one of the villages in the Altai region, gatherings of village residents took place, at which a group of people spoke out negatively against people of non-indigenous nationality, urging the village population to take illegal actions against them. Thus, it carried out actions aimed at inciting hatred or hostility on the grounds of nationality.
    2. Altona
      Altona 11 October 2013 14: 59 New
      +7
      This is right ... Wahhabism is a dangerous and aggressive sect for which Islam is just a cover for extremist aspirations ...
  36. tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 11 October 2013 15: 20 New
    +5
    Alexey Bukharenko (author) has already begun to spend 6,8 billion rubles under the program "On ensuring interethnic harmony."
    А, наш минздрав, по программе "Искоренения Русского населения" уже закрыл десяток-другой деревенских роддомов и санчастей".

    The future president of Russia will be the one who will say in the same way as the first three posts (and a number of other similar comments) and will put this into practice.
  37. Troy
    Troy 11 October 2013 15: 40 New
    +6
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/836/gjmm937.jpg
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 11 October 2013 16: 53 New
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      [quote = Troy] http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/836/gjmm937.jpg/quote]
      The poster is false and nasty.
      Nationalism is not capable of constructive activity. Nationalists of any nation are completely vile, mentally flawed, cowardly scum.
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 06 New
        -5
        "Националисты любой нации сплошь гнусные умственно ущербные трусливые подонки." До 1917 года власть в России принадлежала гнусным умственно отсталым подонкам. Умственно отсталые философы такие как Ильин, писатели цари не были способны на конструктивный диалог с азиатами и кавказцами
        1. Troy
          Troy 11 October 2013 17: 18 New
          +4
          Am I cowardly and mentally flabby because I love my people and try to fight the arbitrariness of migrants? An interesting conclusion. Conduct a constructive dialogue? Well, go to them, have a dialogue, then write. how was it laughing
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 26 New
            0
            I joke on those who deleted their comment actually)
            1. Troy
              Troy 11 October 2013 17: 31 New
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              My koment removed administrators.
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 38 New
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                I'm about Corsair5912 ....
                1. Corsair5912
                  Corsair5912 11 October 2013 17: 42 New
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                  Quote: New Russia
                  I'm about Corsair5912 ....

                  Say a word about poor Corsair ... The admin is rampant, deletes my messages. Not a candle to God, not a damn poker.
                  1. New Russia
                    New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 46 New
                    +1
                    Меня много банили на других сайтах так что я научилась культурно излагать свои "ужасные" мысли)
        2. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 11 October 2013 17: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: New Russia
          "Националисты любой нации сплошь гнусные умственно ущербные трусливые подонки." До 1917 года власть в России принадлежала гнусным умственно отсталым подонкам. Умственно отсталые философы такие как Ильин, писатели цари не были способны на конструктивный диалог с азиатами и кавказцами

          Before the revolution, there was not a single nationalist in Russia, the foreigners did not have any rights and were illiterate in the general mass. Russian nationalism, which did not exist, did not have a single incentive to discriminate against Russian foreigners.
          In the 21 century, Russian nationalists became famous for licking the ass of a dead German Fuhrer, killing an 8 summer Uzbek girl, attacks by a huge crowd on one of our native Russian Yakuts and other heinous acts.
          Russia needs patriots, not nationalists.
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 36 New
            +3
            "До революции в России не было ни одного националиста, инородцы не имели никаких прав и были в общей массе неграмотными. У национализма не было ни единой побудительной причины для дискриминации российских инородцев."

            There were no aggressive nationalists because Russia was for the Russians, not in words but in practice, like the current deceitful government.

            "В 21 веке националисты РФ прославились вылизыванием задницы дохлого немецкого фюрера, убийством 8 летней узбекской девочки, нападениями огромной толпой на одного нашего родного российского якута и прочими гнусными деяниями."



            On September 1, 2013, on Sophia Kovalevskaya Street, a 15-year-old nowhere-studying teenager named Magomed hit the head of a 15-year-old 8th grade student Maria Efremova several times with her fist, after which she was hospitalized with a head injury in a children's hospital. On September 13, 2013, the schoolgirl was discharged for outpatient treatment. On September 20, 2013, an eighth grader died in her apartment, located in one of the houses on Novatorov Boulevard.

            It is reported that the brothers and uncle of Magomed threatened reprisals against the beating witnesses (Daria, Maxim and the store saleswoman).

            Nationalists plan to hold a national gathering in connection with this murder on October 13 on the Field of Mars. The departure begins at 15:00. According to Nikolai Bondarik, the action was agreed with the city authorities. Her relatives, friends and neighbors will participate in it. Nationalists will demand the resignation of the head of the GUVD and the governor. They blame those responsible for the fact that the case was hushed up for several weeks.

            Whose side are you on??? Personally, I am more sorry for this Russian girl whose geeks have killed a dozen more since the publication of this news. And on that girl who alone was killed by the Russians for many years and was spun up for pouring the dirt of nationalism, I almost do not care because I only care about my people and I'm not ashamed)
            1. Corsair5912
              Corsair5912 11 October 2013 17: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: New Russia
              Whose side are you on??? Personally, I am more sorry for this Russian girl whose geeks have killed a dozen more since the publication of this news. And on that girl who alone was killed by the Russians for many years and was spun up for pouring the dirt of nationalism, I almost do not care because I only care about my people and I'm not ashamed)

              I am on the side of Russia. In Russia, nationalists are not needed; in Russia, patriots are needed.
              I am sorry for the murdered girls and boys of any nationality. I am not sorry for killers and scoundrels of any nationality. Thy screaming - alah akbar = shrieking creatures - Russia for Russians.
              They are both scum, traitors and our enemies.
              Russia is strong in the unity of the people, not in sorting people by nationality.
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 59 New
                +2
                "твари визжащей - Россия для русских." Россия для русских значит что Россия в певую очередь государство русских и наших законов а не то что всех нерусских надо убивать. Не всех а тех кто сюда приехал со своими погаными законами и смеет тут рот открывать грязный. У нас мирно живут татары чуваши башкиры удмурты и много кто ещё.
                1. Corsair5912
                  Corsair5912 11 October 2013 19: 04 New
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                  Quote: New Russia
                  твари визжащей - Россия для русских." Россия для русских значит что Россия в певую очередь государство русских и наших законов а не то что всех нерусских надо убивать.

                  Russia has always been, is and will be a state of Russians.
                  And those who sow discord and enmity among the peoples of Russia are mercenaries of the Yankees.
                  Their goal is to dismember Russia and plunge it into a bloody massacre.
                  Arrivals in Russia do not exceed 2-3% of the total population and are very limited in distribution.
                  1. New Russia
                    New Russia 11 October 2013 19: 24 New
                    +2
                    "Приезжие в России не превышают по численности 2-3% от общей численности" 14 миллионов азиатов это 10% населения. "А те кто сеет смуту и вражду среди народов России" Почти все чеченцы дагестанцы и ингуши агенты ГосДепа)
                    1. Corsair5912
                      Corsair5912 11 October 2013 21: 07 New
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                      Quote: New Russia
                      "Приезжие в России не превышают по численности 2-3% от общей численности" 14 миллионов азиатов это 10% населения. "А те кто сеет смуту и вражду среди народов России" Почти все чеченцы дагестанцы и ингуши агенты ГосДепа)

                      Do you have paranoia or schizophrenia? Hey, when are you afraid?
                      Where will 14 million Asians come from in Russia?
                      The population of Uzbekistan is 30 million (?) Estimate of 2013 g), of Tajikistan - 8 million, of Kyrgyzstan - 5,5 million, i.e. in the amount of 44 million people, including 1 / 2 women, of 22 million men - 2 / 3 old people and children. Even with 30% of the migration of able-bodied male migrants, there can be no more than 2-2.5 million people.
                      Chechens (1.3 million) and Ingush (0,5 million people) partially (2-3%) are Yanks agents, and in Dagestan (3 million people) there are about a dozen nationalities, there are hardly more agents among them than among Chechens.
                      The devil is not so terrible as his little ones (joke).
          2. Kahlan amnell
            Kahlan amnell 14 October 2013 10: 09 New
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            In the 21 century, Russian nationalists became famous for licking the ass of a dead German Fuhrer, killing an 8 summer Uzbek girl, attacks by a huge crowd on one of our native Russian Yakuts and other heinous acts.

            There is a confusion and substitution of concepts: nationalism and Nazism are still not synonyms.
            Russia needs patriots, not nationalists.

            Patriots need to be educated, and this is everyday work. Thanks to our sworn friends, many fathers and mothers over the past 20 years have mutated into parents only. And this is very sad ...
      2. Troy
        Troy 11 October 2013 17: 08 New
        +7
        Yeah! And tolerance is building. You tell the French after the migrants smashed the suburbs. And not only the French, many would be interested to listen! Or are you waiting for us to become a national minority? And let them call me a nationalist, but I want to leave my blood clean!
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 13 New
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          "И пусть назовут меня националистом, но я хочу кровь свою оставит чистой!"
          What is natural is not ugly)
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 11 October 2013 17: 33 New
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            Quote: New Russia
            "И пусть назовут меня националистом, но я хочу кровь свою оставит чистой!"
            What is natural is not ugly)

            Do you have serious problems with blood purity? Do you want to establish a breeding factory and will breed purebred centaurs, sphinxes, pigmen, etc.?
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 40 New
              +2
              I have almost black hair and brown eyes but the face type and most importantly the Russian soul. Russian Tajiks, Uzbeks and Chechens do not exist in nature.
            2. Troy
              Troy 11 October 2013 17: 48 New
              +2
              My daughter is growing and I want her to marry a Russian. But since we have had many mixed marriages (Russian women go to hell knows who they are and produce it is not known what), soon there will be no Russians left at all.
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 11 October 2013 17: 55 New
                +4
                Everything will be fine if we do not wait for extinction but are firm in our ideals and give the children the right knowledge. If I have a daughter (I still have a son) who will contact this I will simply refuse her. Of course I will fight to the end so that she does not make a mistake, but if she does, I will refuse. It seems to me if she knows what kind of mistake she will be and understands that being such is a shame, I think it will help to make the right choice)
                1. bask
                  bask 11 October 2013 18: 13 New
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                  Quote: New Russia
                  Everything will be fine if we do not wait for extinction but are firm in our ideals and give the children the right knowledge. If I have a daughter (I still have a son) who will contact this I will simply refuse her

                  You write well, New Russia good .Subscribe to your every word.
                  I repeat, if we in Russia will have a young generation to think like you, at least 50%. I think We are living and Russia will prosper.
                  It’s good that you are free from illusions.
                  It was us (our generation) who were poisoned by internationalism, then they paid for it with blood.
              2. Corsair5912
                Corsair5912 11 October 2013 17: 57 New
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                Quote: Troy
                My daughter is growing and I want her to marry a Russian. But since we have had many mixed marriages (Russian women go to hell knows who they are and produce it is not known what), soon there will be no Russians left at all.

                Not cs, bro, in Russia Russian is 85% of the population, but hell knows who only 15% is.
                In order for Russian women to remain, non-Russian women need to give birth, like sows, in 12 pieces at a time for 1000 years. Too much difference in numbers.
                1. New Russia
                  New Russia 11 October 2013 18: 03 New
                  +3
                  "Не ccы, братан, в России русских 85% населения" 80 ровно назвали себя русскими по опросу 2013 года, из которых 1% этнически не славян. В этом году завезут 17 миллионов выродков из Азии в добавок к нескольким миллионам чеченцев дагестанцев и ингушей... Такими темпами надо 50 лет для полного уничтожения русских.
                  1. Corsair5912
                    Corsair5912 11 October 2013 18: 44 New
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                    Quote: New Russia
                    "Не ccы, братан, в России русских 85% населения" 80 ровно назвали себя русскими по опросу 2013 года, из которых 1% этнически не славян. В этом году завезут 17 миллионов выродков из Азии в добавок к нескольким миллионам чеченцев дагестанцев и ингушей... Такими темпами надо 50 лет для полного уничтожения русских.

                    During the census, many idiots called themselves hobbits, elves and goblins. So what?
                    Among those who during the census called themselves Ukrainians, Belarusians, Tatars, Bashkirs, Udmurts, Mari, Mordvinians, Chuvashs, Komi, more than 90% are real Russians, patriots of Russia. Maybe they are not all Slavs, but they are our brothers.
                    Чеченов, ингушей, лезгинов, кумыков и прочих дагестанцев в России менее 5 млн.всех вместе взятых, где же их наловить "несколько миллионов" и завезти в Россию.
                    В Азии "выродков" немногим более 17 миллионов
                    The number of peoples of Central Asia

                    Peoples Number of thousands of people
                    Uzbeks ----- 16539
                    Russians ----- 9520
                    Kazakhs ------ 7343
                    Tajiks ----- 4106
                    Turkmens ---- 2537
                    Kyrgyz ----- 2230
                    Ukrainians ---- 1004
                    Germans ------ 1059
                    Tatars ------ 796
                    Karakalpaks - 412
                    Belarusians ----- 183
                    Uighurs ------- 185
                    Koreans ------ 103
                    1. New Russia
                      New Russia 11 October 2013 18: 56 New
                      +1
                      17 millions this year are the words of the head of the FMS. In Uzbekistan, 30 million, in Tajikistan 8, in Kyrgyzstan 5 and a half, subtract from these 17 3 million Ukrainians and get 14 million.
                      1. Corsair5912
                        Corsair5912 11 October 2013 19: 10 New
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                        Quote: New Russia
                        17 millions this year are the words of the head of the FMS. In Uzbekistan, 30 million, in Tajikistan 8, in Kyrgyzstan 5 and a half, subtract from these 17 3 million Ukrainians and get 14 million.

                        Complete nonsense arithmetic will not help here.
                        A census in Uzbekistan has not been conducted since 1989.
                        Distribution of population by nationality as of 2000 year:
                        Uzbeks - 18 million 959 thousand people (Xnumx% of the population)
                        Russians - 1 million 199 thousand people
                        Tajiks - 1 million 166 thousand people
                        Kazakhs - 990 thousand people
                        Karakalpaks - 504 thousand people
    2. Natalia
      Natalia 11 October 2013 17: 05 New
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      Quote: Troy
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/836/gjmm937.jpg

      A few words about the RULES of this site
      The site is strictly prohibited:

      a) mate in any form (open and veiled), swearing curses; insult and threats against the opponent;

      b) inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of such words and derivatives as: crest, india, Jew, USA, Bulbash, Talaponets, chock, khachik, azerbaijanian, cross-eyed, b, Raska (generally mentioned

      Also here on the site are people, representatives of the Caucasian peoples, and among other things very respected people ... I ask you, remove this poster.
      "Когда мы у Бога просим помощи мы не должны забывать, что Он создал нас равными"
      (said V.V. Putin in 2013)
  38. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 11 October 2013 17: 20 New
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    As a rule, all the conflicts that we know, including Kondopoga, Sagra, and Pugachev, are criminally and economically motivated.

    All so-called national diasporas in Russia are non-Russian criminal entities existing with the knowledge of Russian officials who immediately betray the national interests of the Russian people and the state interests of Russia. The authorities should remove the skins from state institutions, until we, the Russian people, dealt with it.
  39. CARBON
    CARBON 11 October 2013 17: 20 New
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    У меня впечатление складывается, что из "кавказцев" "российское" правительство собирается сделать "российских афроамериканцев". Создав для них более предпочтительные условия, чем для русского большинства. Мотивируют это: мол они же маленькие, слабые, обиженные.
    Вот честно в 2004, когда у нас проходили выборы и была более-менее реальная возможность раскола страны на "западную" и "юго-восточную", хотел раскола и присоединения к России. Последние же годы у меня создается впечатление, что наша власть конечно м...ки 100%, но и у вас видимо не все про Родину думают. И как-то мысли о присоединении начали проходить из-за какой-то анти-национальной, предательской, извиняюсь за выражение скотской политике по отношению к собственному народу, т.н. "российского" правительства.
    Если Украина- "олигархическое государство", существующее для процветания группы лиц, и все по большому счету это процветание создают ,обеспечивают, охраняют, защищают и т.д при этом никто этого практически не скрывает. То в России происходит, что-то подобное только еще с глумлением и издевательством над народом в особо изощренной форме.
  40. builder
    builder 11 October 2013 19: 25 New
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    1. builder
      builder 11 October 2013 19: 35 New
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    2. Troy
      Troy 12 October 2013 15: 07 New
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      Where is New Russia? Why are you keeping silent? You are tolerant here, for you, which is natural is not ugly!
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  42. Troy
    Troy 12 October 2013 15: 13 New
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    GLORY OF THE GREAT RUSSIAN EMPIRE! GLORY TO THE KIND! Glory to the Russian people! Asians, come to our Siberia and try at our church so uncluttered, they won’t have time to come! Mode fast and quiet. Not only do you know how to work with knives!
  43. Troy
    Troy 12 October 2013 15: 44 New
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p2pCzOHAPQ Я РУССКИЙ!
  44. Troy
    Troy 12 October 2013 16: 02 New
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    А ещё у меня вопрос, куда деваются джигиты с криками" мнэ здэсь всо можно" на кайенах и майбахах когда русские идут?
  45. Troy
    Troy 12 October 2013 16: 48 New
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    Type in a tube of holy war!