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Cheap growth is over. Replica of Alexander Privalov

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Published, the nineteenth in a row annual rating of the largest Russian companies, "Expert-400". For almost all stories The new Russia, starting with the seemingly unthinkably distant 1995 year, in the first week of each October, the country is told in detail and convincingly how things are going for the domestic economic “Krupnyakov”, that is, in essence, how things are going in the country's economy.


This year, the message came out sad. The economic stagnation, about which independent observers began to talk together a year ago and which was recently finally recognized by the government, was fully manifested in the current Expert 400.

But the rating was compiled according to last year’s data, that is, stagnation in reality began even then.

According to the financial statements, 400 of the largest companies in 2012 increased revenue by just ten percent. Apart from the crisis 2009 of the year, this is an anti-record for all 19 years of the ranking.

However, the analysts of “Expert” honestly warn: the anti-record will last for a very short time. The jubilee 20 rating in a year will show an even worse dynamic: according to preliminary estimates, revenue growth will not exceed even five percent.

Since life is arranged in such a way that the “Krupnyak” always grows faster than the economy as a whole, this will mean non-zero, but unpleasantly close to zero growth in Russian GDP.

The reasons for such a sad state of affairs are many; government speakers stress on external causes. Of course, they exist: the state of the world economy is far from ideal, which cannot but affect Russia. But the main reason for the stop of economic growth, unfortunately, is our own. And it consists in what has been spent, exhausted, ended as you want, our main competitive advantage so far is low prices.

We beat competitors due to cheaper raw materials, energy, labor; but they are no longer cheap. Here are just a few numbers. The selling price of electricity for industrial consumers in Russia is 55% higher than in the United States, gas and coal to our thermal power plants cost about the same price as the United States.

In terms of average net wages (according to 2012, it was over 10,000 rubles in 23 in Russia, or 582 euros per month), we overtook not only all CIS countries, but also a number of EU members, for example, Hungary, Lithuania and Latvia. In these countries, the average salary is about 490 euros, that is, a hundred euros less than ours. At the same time, the qualification of workers often leaves us to be desired.

About the loss of this competitive advantage, the cheapness of production factors, you can cry, you can not cry, but nothing can be done: she died that way. The country needs to look for ways to acquire some other trump cards, and it seems to be approximately clear where these paths lie. The domestic economy has the largest untapped reserves; the most important of them is the extremely low efficiency of Russian companies.

One million dollars in revenue of leading Western corporations is provided on average by the labor of two employees. In Russia, even leaders need at least five for a million revenues.

Labor productivity in the companies "Expert-400" is three and a half times lower than in the largest companies in Japan, almost three times lower than that of competitors from Western Europe and the USA, and 1,7 times less than that of the leading corporations from the countries of our partners on BRICS.

What is there BRICS, we are already in the CIS bypass. The authors of "Expert-400" identified the leaders in labor productivity among the largest companies in the CIS; And so, six places in the top ten - at firms of Kazakhstan.

The problem is also fully realized by the country's leadership - it was not for nothing that Putin in his election articles called for 2018 to increase labor productivity by a factor of one and a half.

But for the time being, the government can only hear calls for higher productivity, as if it’s about workers running faster through their workshops and laboratories. Actually, of course, we should be talking about a radical, I repeat, not cosmetic for reporting, but a radical increase in the flow of investments.

With the current structure of the Russian economy, an increase in labor productivity by one percent requires an increase in investment of about five percent. Therefore, in order to at least get closer to the level of efficiency, even if only for the BRICS partners, our annual investment level should approach 30 percent of GDP. The current level of investment is from 20 to 21 percent of GDP.

This problem is terribly complex. Investments willingly go where there are already competitive advantages; how to lure them to where the benefits are - some have ended, and others are only to be organized - not in one textbook is written. We need new approaches, we need a serious turn in economic policy. Consoles one thing: if you really need it, it means you are not going anywhere. Will be.
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  1. Gennady1973
    Gennady1973 10 October 2013 06: 57 New
    14
    It is necessary to build factories, factories, in a word, to build production plants in 30 years, and not as now some shopping centers are growing like mushrooms.
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 10 October 2013 07: 58 New
      +4
      I respect Privalov, often watch his angle of view on expert TV (watch online) -recommend, learn a lot of interesting things
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 10 October 2013 08: 45 New
      14
      Хотя вот пример приведу-моя жена работает на оборонном предприятии,у нее в отделе 4сотрудницы,у двоих из них зарплата по 35 000р,обе ни шиша не делали-сидели целыми днями в интернете-одна шмотки покупала,другая духи-потом это перепродавали знакомым и подругам.Пришел новый начальник,который болеет за завод-выгнал обеих.Они,конечно-типа:"мы сами уволились,у нас мужья зарабатывают,и нам эта работа не нужна".
      But the fact is that they DIDN'T DO IT. They got grandmothers. they didn’t do their work, and the gundels, which is bad for us!
      If you came to work, work, but no, yeah ... ah.
      Вот и в команде Навального такие же .И на "ижмаше"-я подозреваю-тоже.Люди получают бабки от государства,хают его и еще вредят своим бездействием.
      And in the government, especially the current liberal economists, a copy of such goats.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 10 October 2013 11: 04 New
        +9
        The selling price of electricity for industrial consumers in Russia is 55% higher than in the United States, gas and coal to our TPPs cost about the same price as the American ones.

        Well, gentlemen, urapatrioty, are you still hoping for Putin?
      2. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 10 October 2013 12: 42 New
        +1
        Looks like thieves were aunts.
      3. Heccrbq .2
        Heccrbq .2 10 October 2013 22: 54 New
        0
        Ага ,да да ,айфончик плохой ,либерал,ставленник США,полковник хороший,но ему не "дают"!Цирк для таких как ты !
    3. Deniska
      Deniska 10 October 2013 10: 19 New
      +7
      I work in production (at a private trader). Does not want a modern business to develop production, it is much easier to be a stupid outbid ((This is sad
      1. sergey32
        sergey32 10 October 2013 11: 01 New
        10
        I am a private trader, I have my own production. Loaned by ear, rate of about 20%, plus fees and kickbacks. Electricity with VAT is almost 6 rubles per kWh. Profits go to the bank and energy monopolists. I develop production for the last remaining pennies and new loans. My goods on shelves after intermediaries become somewhere twice as expensive. And kickbacks everywhere. How to rise?
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 10 October 2013 11: 06 New
          0
          So who should deal with these things? In the government? Who is pulling our economy and, in general, all development back? Where is this bastard? Who is responsible for this? Who?
          1. nov_tech.vrn
            nov_tech.vrn 10 October 2013 11: 26 New
            +2
            VAT is the root of it, VAT is levied at every production studio and every company pays it, as a result, the consumer pays it in the final cost of the product and everything pays for it, they promised to gradually cancel the VAT, but I don’t see anything, for example such a wonderful feeder as VAT refunds without her? Yes, and the final product will become cheaper, the same electricity, how many times have VAT been added until the consumer received the final? output sales tax, much more transparent and stimulating production, but not hindering it (Hi Gorbachev and his team!)
          2. sergey32
            sergey32 10 October 2013 11: 35 New
            +5
            How where is this bastard? In Moscow, in the government. They create conditions for us in which we work and live. You yourself know nothing about our life. That would be Medvedev, Siluanov, Ulyukaev, Nabiulina for six months to me for production. So that as my workers live on the same salary, when my wife with a small child sits at home in a rented apartment, she does not shine, she was taken to work by credit car. And for the remaining money would be happy. Oh, dreams ..
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 10 October 2013 11: 43 New
              +5
              "Набиулину на полгода ко мне на производство"

              "Депутат Фёдоров (известный в палате номер 6 как борец с оккупацией) считает назначение главой Центробанка Эльвиры Набиуллиной шагом на пути к обретению Россией суверенитета и освобождения от оккупации"

              You have not felt free yet? I think according to Fedorov we will finally be freed when Putin appoints his friend Chubaysya as Minister of Economics)
          3. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 10 October 2013 12: 48 New
            +2
            Who is the ex Kussum? !! Who, instead of a sleeve of a pants, pussed ?!
            Никто. Каждый там "занимается своей тематикой". Должен быть интеграционный центр. То есть человек (и непременно один), который способен интегрировать их куски в целостную картину, видеть ее в развитии и намечать основные направления. Но.
            Исследования свидетельствуют, где то со 110 по тесту на интеллект человек становится... непригоден для продвижения по властной лестнице! Он отторгается другими участниками процесса несмотря ни на что. Помните, Киселева телеигру вела, "слабое звено"? Вот там это хорошо было видно. Все остальные обьединялись и мочили умника.
            We had Stalin - a pure unique. The most powerful intellect with hypertrophied abilities for survival and battle is all against everyone. Joseph Vissarionovich !! We disappear without you! Though cry ...
    4. Altona
      Altona 10 October 2013 11: 13 New
      +3
      Only to build them not according to the projects of the 30s, but with a higher technological base ... Factories are one thing, we must actively remove imports from the domestic market, re-launch the sewing and leather shops, well, figuratively, in general, return the production of consumer goods home ... For example, I always look at the manufacturer now, but there are very few Russian goods ... Even the products on the shelves are already being dispensed ... By the way, my acquaintances and relatives prefer domestic cars ... They are cheaper for purchase and maintenance, and the quality is already the same as in the imported low-cost ...
    5. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 10 October 2013 12: 41 New
      +3
      What can I say? Under the leadership of Pu and his team of thieves, we traversed the golden years of petrodollars that could be allowed to modernize the economy. Now we are reaping the benefits.
    6. Joker
      Joker 10 October 2013 19: 54 New
      0
      One million dollars in revenue of leading Western corporations is provided on average by the labor of two employees. In Russia, even leaders need at least five for a million revenues.

      Labor productivity in the companies "Expert-400" is three and a half times lower than in the largest companies in Japan, almost three times lower than that of competitors from Western Europe and the USA, and 1,7 times less than that of the leading corporations from the countries of our partners on BRICS.

      What I talked about a couple of months ago, only then everyone attacked me in a crowd wink and the reason is simple, well, the Russian man does not want to plow, everyone is accustomed to spit at the ceiling and receive a salary, almost all 1-2 work teams have advanced workers who do all the work, half are not fish or meat and the remaining percentage of ballast is just receiving a salary (say more that this is not so, it is especially acute among state employees) + production automation NO, the Russian people are extremely dense, and as in the AK-12 topic, they will calculate everything up to a penny and rely on old stuff, for that reliable wink besides, when buying new equipment and automation, some of the employees will have to be fired, and some will be sent for retraining, but laziness will immediately raise a rebellion, as you give a freebie! drinks Am I wrong? Yes, even because a lot of people live here during the working day, we can conclude that at work they sit at the ceiling, spit, or do not work at all and sit at home, here's an example. Average zp in 23 000 rubles pure myth, we have an average zp no higher than 19 000 p. for sure. The development of the economy and incomes, respectively, falls for one simple reason, no one invests in its development, all that is written on the website is made a drop in the sea (which does not prevent the shizanuty company living there from snatching like a pack of jackals for everyone who has an excellent opinion from them) Credits are huge, the bureaucracy is blooming and smells, scientists are going abroad, but those who have not left for all their life are sitting in subordinate positions and receive pennies and not having the opportunity for self-realization. Take a look around, 21 century in the yard, and we have not changed since the Second World War. The same machines, the same technology. That's the result, it is still say thanks (although there is a twofold) for not having planted under the article for speculation as before, so in general 90% of stores and shopping centers can be closed, it’s GDP in the minus will go away immediately. Someone there shouted his throat, tearing the pier, Putin will save everyone, Russia got up from its knees, so it did not rise, threw a bone to the people, so as not to rebel, education was destroyed, so that, like in the USA, fools multiplied and bought everything that had no analogs, but uncle’s mouth Volodya watched and clapped her ears for joy.
      1. Joker
        Joker 10 October 2013 19: 54 New
        0
        Uncle Volodya is not, well done all the same, he turned everything slyly, invested a lot of money in military production and put his people there in positions of authority, no one has yet noticed that all the factories in the concerns were united, and the administration was new, from Moscow wink + with oil and gas a great move, helped absorb all competitors to Gazprom, British Petroleum sold a part of our oil company in the amount of 20% from its decree, this was missed by room analysts. God forbid the United States will start a fever, we will have the second 90. So it is not clear whether to rejoice at the crisis in the United States, or not. And against the background of all this, the Russian people are sitting, always dissatisfied and fearsome to everyone, only in the kitchen at home, and on the Internet he pushes his thoughts, and goes outside, or does the official letter write laziness that we are fools chtol? Nyhaj who does it another, me and on the furnace not bad lays well, well here and lie further, only do not hell later.
  2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 10 October 2013 07: 45 New
    10
    Well what can I say, the direct result of the predatory accumulation of capital, how it came and went ... all the other hucksters, buy-sell, and those who really opened up new production will not soon have large volumes of production, if they are sent to raise their heads at all bureaucrats (water only am )! hi
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 10 October 2013 08: 36 New
      17
      Everything is said correctly. Only one thing I can’t understand, why not tell the truth?
      - What does the global economy have to do with it? Our country only sells RAW MATERIALSthere is no production! Hence all the problems, and they won’t say it directly, because the blind can see that the government CAN NOT MANAGE!We need to buy up and introduce technologies. To increase production, to produce goods for which at least consumers here will pay for us.
      And the people will be pleased. And to any Bulk it will be a blow under the breath.
      Work for your market.
      1. Forget
        Forget 10 October 2013 08: 42 New
        +7
        true, you need to reduce the sale of raw materials and increase its processing, Watson is elementary ...
      2. Stiletto
        Stiletto 10 October 2013 09: 30 New
        12
        Эх, зря конечно, в России законность спекуляции признали и назвали все это честным бизнесом. Спекулянтов много развелось, а вот реально пахать стало некому. Да и не модно это сейчас, не престижно. Молодежь ищет "легкие деньги", а ведь идеология праздного безделья и потреблятства никого еще до добра не доводила.
  3. saag
    saag 10 October 2013 07: 46 New
    +5
    In the 30s, all this was built, because no one was going to import something into the country of advice, so everything had to be done by ourselves, including toothbrushes, now the situation is different - when a sea of ​​cheap imports can turn out so much production at a loss, nevertheless want to get a decent salary by their standards, heating, electricity and taxes also increase the cost of labor, or set up fully automated production, which at first is also very expensive. Of course, import-substituting production will be done now in connection with the situation in Ukraine, but Mr. Medvedev, his performance on the path to creating production in other areas, was not very stimulating
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 10 October 2013 08: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: saag
      In the 30s, all this was built, because no one was going to import something into the country of councils

      No, it’s Joseph Vissarionovich who wanted to import only factories, factories and entire industries (although some of the dyestuffs for fabrics had to be imported until the mid-40s)
    2. Altona
      Altona 10 October 2013 11: 46 New
      +4
      And who said it would be cheap? Isn’t it cheap to buy blacks in boots? And to eat from the belly and fly in business class to Florida and Nice is not cheap? And living at the expense of tariff increases and sales of land and property is not cheap? And is a 13% tax on billionaires not cheap? I see directly the sea of ​​unused reserves ... Yes, and with taxes you need to do something, make production profitable again, start stimulation ...
  4. Ustas
    Ustas 10 October 2013 07: 49 New
    +7
    In these countries, the average salary is about 490 euros, that is, a hundred euros less than ours.

    Where is such a salary with us, 490 euros? To 300 does not reach.
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 10 October 2013 08: 36 New
      +6
      this is the same statistics, you have 2 hens, I have not one, and on average we have one chicken
  5. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 10 October 2013 08: 36 New
    +8
    Как все же верно утверждение: "Статистика-ложь".
    I always wondered. Where does anyone get the numbers from?
    Могу поверить, что: " Вот лишь несколько цифр. Отпускная цена на электроэнергию для промпотребителей в России на 55% выше, чем в США, газ и уголь нашим ТЭС обходятся примерно в ту же цену, что и американским." А Чубайс обещал вообще чуть не за даром.Можно было и про цены на бензин добавить.
    А вот по зарплате."По средней "чистой" зарплате (по итогам 2012 года она составляла в России 23 с лишним тысячи рублей, или 582 евро в месяц) мы обогнали не только все страны СНГ, но и ряд членов ЕС, например Венгрию, Литву и Латвию. В этих странах средняя зарплата около 490 евро, то есть на сотню евро меньше, чем у нас." Какой нибудь иноземец конечно может поверить .
    Статье -минус. Автор не озаботился поиском причин дороговизны ресурсов для страны и почему уменьшается количество квалифицированных специалистов.Для него:" ...умерла так умерла." А они на поверхности.
    Статья из серии " Все пропало, шеф!"
  6. Forget
    Forget 10 October 2013 08: 44 New
    +2
    six places in the top ten - in the companies of Kazakhstan.
    ohh nice!
  7. Sergeant
    Sergeant 10 October 2013 08: 55 New
    11
    Много ли наши "капиталлисты"( разбогатевшие на том, что построили "для них" в советское время) вкладывают финансов в развитие, расширение производств? А прибыли имеют очень даже не малые! Куда эта прибыль идёт? За бугор! (так надёжней).
    Жулики не уверены в будущем ("кабы чего не вышло") - поэтому не спешат вкладываться в долгосрочные проекты, в развитие отечественного производства. Призываем ..иностранцев инвестировать в российскую промышленность, но они же не дурачки, видят, что "местные буржуины" огромные капиталлы (прибыль) выводят за пределы России - что же сами-то не "вкладываются"?
    Российских олигархов и капиталлистами-то, по большому счёту, не назвать.. так ..жулики, разбогатевшие на "чужом" добре (социалистическом). Вряд ли в них проснётся чувство патриотизма... Если еще учесть, что многие наши производства принадлежат иностранцам, то ..как-то, вааще ..грустно становится.

    Развивается, в основном, только торговля, которая ("законно") позволяет "отбить" вложения быстро и с минимальными затратами.
  8. Kiliny
    Kiliny 10 October 2013 09: 13 New
    +5
    The main methods of dealing with the economic crisis 1. Turn the Central Bank of the Russian Federation under the control of the Government of the Russian Federation. 2. Reduce the refinancing rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. 3. Deoffsherization of the economy (Presidential Decree on the withdrawal of capital from offshore enterprises under the jurisdiction of the Government of the Russian Federation) 4. Restore control over the crossing of capital across the borders of the Russian Federation. At the moment, the Russian government is pretending to control the economy, but this is not so. http://politikus.ru/video/7124-kolonialnaya-administraciya-rossii-metody-borby.h
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    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 10 October 2013 11: 10 New
      +1
      This is the right way, but who will suit them? Talk alone.
  9. shurup
    shurup 10 October 2013 09: 45 New
    +1
    Stupidly giving energy for finished goods - a sign of a banana republic.
    I've bought a Russian-made indesit washer and I am doubly satisfied. The next step is to assemble from Russian components, and I was satisfied. Further, to be painted with Russian paint and not peeling off. Etc.
    Let the brands take the rate of profit for themselves, but they themselves ensure that the Russian beetles do not spoil the brand.
    And yet, as if to send Medvedev on an indefinite vacation - let him finish playing with tin soldiers and add up cubes.
  10. intsurfer
    intsurfer 10 October 2013 09: 47 New
    +3
    1. to cease budget support for any commercial (state-owned and non-state) companies.
    2. bankrupt, i.e. forcibly change owners, rather than pour in budget money, unprofitable enterprises.
    3. make the courts truly independent. Trying to bribe - trying to sit down, the judge who took the money - too.
    4. to allow party competition while ensuring fair elections - again put in jail.
    5. embezzlers and corrupt officials, at a minimum, to plant for a long time with confiscation of property from them and their immediate relatives.
    6. Simplify the opening and running of a small business.
    7. And a bunch of everything ...

    Threat here is such a naive look at solving problems. But who will plant their friends? This is not Malaysia or China ...
    1. SolomonSS
      SolomonSS 10 October 2013 10: 03 New
      +2
      I support you at 100% !!!
      I’ll add on my own, Russia should invest in its economy and not in the economy of the West, as was done in the 90s and is still being done. You need to invest in your own country and not someone else's. And then our leadership considers the country as a business, and not as their home.
    2. dimon-media
      dimon-media 10 October 2013 11: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: intsurfer
      1. to cease budget support for any commercial (state-owned and non-state) companies.
      2. bankrupt, i.e. forcibly change owners, rather than pour in budget money, unprofitable enterprises.
      3. make the courts truly independent. Trying to bribe - trying to sit down, the judge who took the money - too.
      4. to allow party competition while ensuring fair elections - again put in jail.
      5. embezzlers and corrupt officials, at a minimum, to plant for a long time with confiscation of property from them and their immediate relatives.
      6. Simplify the opening and running of a small business.
      7. And a bunch of everything ...

      Raven - the raven will not peck out the eye. That says it all. Everything is seized, everything is paid for. By the way, nepotism in all departments must also be eradicated.
    3. Altona
      Altona 10 October 2013 13: 13 New
      +1
      As for support from the budget, I don’t agree, just support needs to be checked and given to the presumptuous and bronzed ones ... In addition, we must again make a normal intersectoral balance, develop a state industrial and scientific policy, set goals in the end normal ... And then we have one goal - as rich as you can, as it was declared in 1992, it has not been canceled yet ... That's all it follows ...
  11. lotar
    lotar 10 October 2013 10: 26 New
    +3
    Recently they showed on TV how about one 150 million rubles was found in one of the officials on road construction in a garage in flour bags http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuiC5abMNOY.And how many of these officials in our country are 2%, 10%, or this figure tends to 50 or more percent. I am inclined to the latter, although there is a hope that I am wrong. And about the fact that our energy is expensive so nothing surprising. We have so many intermediaries between the producer and the consumer that Mama is not grieving. For example, in Chelyabinsk we have about eight intermediaries. The cost of producing electricity from gas ranges from 2 to 4 kopecks, and the final consumer receives a one-rate tariff for electricity already in 2,41 rub. Here and mid thaw.
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 10 October 2013 11: 43 New
      0
      Happy, we have a tariff of 3,62 in Krasnodar. while having its own manufacturer of email.
      1. LINX
        LINX 11 October 2013 00: 55 New
        0
        3,62 rubles - of course, tin for a country not deprived of the country's energy resources, is this one of the methods of struggle for the income of billionaires? (((

        with all the problems we have, in Ukraine, - 28 kopecks (about 1,1 rubles).
  12. optimist
    optimist 10 October 2013 10: 27 New
    +7
    История российского капитализма в двух томах: том первый,-"ПОнты"; том второй,-"Кранты"... Когда 25 лет назад западные жидомасоны вместе с нашими уголовниками восстанавливали капитализм в России, в их планы явно не входило, чтобы Россия процветала. Так что здесь всё, как в известной басне дедушки Крылова:"А вы, друзья, как не садитесь...". Только смена социального и политического строя через события, аналогичные октябрю 1917-го могут вырвать страну их ...опы. А не тупой подсчёт долей процентов "ростов" и "спадов"...
  13. uhu189
    uhu189 10 October 2013 10: 42 New
    +2
    Everything is said correctly, but in order to increase efficiency as a whole, it is necessary to stimulate employees to increase their own efficiency, and to be honest, I have never seen that the owners of enterprises invested money in their employees, analyzed technological processes and tried to optimize them. At best, template copying of norms, at worst, a complete mess and production functioning on the personal initiative of loners who drag almost everything and a huge mass of parasites pretending to work ... And all this bacchanalia lies in low qualification, as workers, and managers who are happy with everything and who absolutely do not want to change anything, because they think that everything is okay. Of course this is my personal opinion, for sure there will be places where everything is not so bad ...
  14. dimon-media
    dimon-media 10 October 2013 10: 58 New
    +4
    Already in the eyes dazzles and is sick of these words: stagnation, crisis!!! Damn it, I don’t know the term of these words, until they launched the dollar into the country !!! What the hell can crises be in Russia when we literally Everything is?! Not only can we live on self-sufficiency, we can feed the whole world! land, farmland, resources, oil, gold, forest, production facilities, technology, engineering! the heads on our shoulders do not have! For God's sake, get rid of him (the dollar), support the domestic producer and you will be happy and no more fucking crises! Are you (politicians) so stupid that you cannot understand one small truth that when you hold US government bonds and buy a dollar, you sponsor and feed (In the literal sense of the word) USA ?! Really not tired, huh?
  15. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 10 October 2013 10: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Selling price of electricity for industrial consumers in Russia is 55% higher than in the USA
    The cost of many services and goods created in Russia is more expensive than in Europe and America. Why? Because we have low labor productivity, enormous energy intensity of products, and lack of interest from manufacturers to improve these indicators. But oil and gas will not go far. Therefore, stagnation is inevitable. And no one can solve this problem ...
    1. dimon-media
      dimon-media 10 October 2013 11: 11 New
      +1
      You can decide, Eugene, if only the desire was in the upper echelons of power. And his (desire) apparently is not present. Stalin took the country with a plow, and left with an atomic bomb. I will not tire of citing the example of the Stalinist industrialization of the country. Because Stalin had a desire to raise and develop Russia. True, the methods were somewhat radical, well, it was worth it. But Stalin made a superpower from an agrarian country. (although I do not welcome the radical, time is not right, and people too).
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 10 October 2013 11: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Therefore, stagnation is inevitable. And no one can solve this problem ...

      Doesn't want, you wanted to say? laughing
      1. dimon-media
        dimon-media 10 October 2013 11: 19 New
        +1
        Well, yes, I made a typo. DOES NOT WANTwill be more correct.
  16. AlexA
    AlexA 10 October 2013 11: 28 New
    +4
    По поводу "дороговизны" рабочей силы. Тезис надо воспринимать очень критически. Давно занимаюсь этим вопросом. Обычно среднюю зарплату считают: выручку делят на общее число сотрудников. Но в России выручка делится между собственником и работниками 70:30, тогда как в развитых странах точно наоборот. И оставшаяся зарплата тоже делится примерно так: топ-менеджеры 200 000 - 500 000, общая масса работников 10 000 - 20 000. Есть и поменее. Таким образом те, кто реально создают прибавочный продукт, по факту нищенствуют. А с точки зрения чистой экономики - не могут обеспечить платежеспособный спрос. Поэтому честным производительным предпринимателям некому сбывать свою продукцию. А о-очень узкая группа обеспеченных граждан - олигархи и топ-менеджмент - не знают, куда деньги девать и выводят из за бугор. Вот главная экономическая проблема. Но ея никто из руководителей страны, да и из экспертов в упор видеть не хотят. И все поучают: вы тут, видите ли, много заполучали. Это к тому, чтобы мы тут все устыдились и готовились работать ваще задаром. Здесь не проходят ссылки. кто интересуется, могу сбросить ссылку на текст с числовыми примерами.
  17. New Russia
    New Russia 10 October 2013 11: 33 New
    +4
    "По средней "чистой" зарплате (по итогам 2012 года она составляла в России 23 с лишним тысячи рублей," У меня в городе такая зарплата только на заводе больше нет нигде. 8 10 12 тысяч. Бывает даже меньше. Автор говорит экономика скоро перестанет расти? А автор знает что она уже 9 месяцев не растёт за исключением сферы услуг? Металлургические заводы закрываются малый бизнес разгромлен. Все сферы реальной промышлености в лучшем случае не растут а во многих случаях падают. И это ещё до начала 2 волны кризиса в мире. Всё из за ВТО и коррупции и ничего не меняется, у них всё стабильно.
    Путин на съезде ЕдРа сказал что мы идём правильным курсом и ЕдРо "народная партия" они в своём мире живут)
    1. creak
      creak 10 October 2013 12: 01 New
      +2
      Просто власть живет в параллельной реальности, ничего не имеющей ничего общего с действительностью... Как было сказано, если не ошибаюсь, еще братьями Стругацкими:"Народу не нужны нездоровые сенсации...". Они почему то решили, что лучше знают, что нужно народу и в каком направлении ему следует идти и пребывают в этой безмятежной уверенности...
  18. aud13
    aud13 10 October 2013 11: 50 New
    +3
    State policy in recent years has been aimed at intensifying the development of energy exports. This disastrous position puts the entire economy of Russia depending on buyers who start to show off and make us dance to our tune. For domestic producers, the only news is an increase in tax fees and increased administrative supervision, plus the lack of investment protection.
    I also see a drop in production growth in the fact that 2 years ago the rates on contributions to pension funds rose sharply. If initially many enterprises began to chemise with companies one-day, in order to cash out money for wages, then over time, these opportunities began to seriously clamp down. The question is that with a profitability level of 5-10 percent, an increase in contributions from salaries of 26 to 34 percent (and for small businesses from 14 to 34) in reality leads to the fact that profitability becomes negative. And if so, small businesses do not buy products of domestic producers, they, in turn, do not purchase raw materials (metals and components), metallurgists do not buy coal, gas and electricity in the same volumes. And all of them cannot pay salaries in the previous amounts and taxes and contributions to budgets and extra-budgetary funds, respectively.
    Investments in conditions of falling demand, respectively, can be forgotten.
    All this was predicted 2-3 years ago - another question is that no one wanted to listen.
    Just like no one wanted to listen a year ago about a 2-fold increase in contributions for individual entrepreneurs to a pension fund. Just for the sake of interest, if you look at articles of that period, even then small business representatives shouted that this law would lead to the mass exit of entrepreneurs. Who is in the gray business who generally quit his job. Who was interested in listening to this?
    At the same time, people’s money is being spent ugly and badly and inefficiently.
    The states of officials are growing, their salaries are growing even faster. In the penisone fund alone, the number of employees is - 120 thousand people - this is a whole army !!! All of them need to be fed, maintained jobs, offices, etc. At the same time, pension reform failed.
    This is not to mention other departments.
    There can be only one conclusion from all of this - the development of the economy did not continue thanks to, but rather against the will of the Government. But after it had already completely regulated the activity of entrepreneurs, this growth began to wither, and the worst thing is that it is not the fact that it will stop at zero, the trend may continue and a real decline in production will begin.
  19. AlexA
    AlexA 10 October 2013 12: 04 New
    +4
    Перечитал текст. Чего-то я ступил. "Выручку на число сотрудников" - так считают производительность труда. (Ну, дальше все точно.) Да и по ней тоже нас пытаются устыдить: дескать, мы бестолково работаем. Но, по факту, с учетом распределения валового продукта и зарплат, вывод прежний: экономика в целом работает "неэффективно", но конкретным работникам, непосредственно стоящим у станков, стыдится нечего. Квалифицированные работники трудятся вполне на мировом уровне. А вот организаторы производства - не очень... Но их это состояние никак не беспокоит: цены им никто не ограничивает, шкала налогов плоская, источники средств никто не отслеживает, валютного контроля нет... Чего не жить.
  20. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 10 October 2013 12: 06 New
    +4
    Когда правительство заговорило о замораживании тарифов сразу же "поднялся вой от крупных монополий" Особенно "усердствовали" РЖД и Газпром, дескать, упадут инвестиции и прчее. Привыкли за счет повышения тарифов "прибыль получать". Деньги на покупку предприятий за рубежом находят и немалые. А на внедрение новых технологий, замену старого оборудования на современное "жаба давит".Например в "нефтянке" пену выкачали, а на технологию настоящей добычи нефти и разведку новах месторождений "дорого", зато сколько тратят на презентации и "в свой карман"- немеренно.
    Правильно сказал А.Привалов халява кончилась и необходимо подойти к проблеме с чувством настоящего хозяина. А хозяина нет, есть спекулянты и "рвачи". Как только прибыль начинает падать, скорей продать! Мне кажется, зря государство "умыло руки", все-таки нужен контроль и стратегия хозяина, в лице государства(только не тех чиновников,которые думают о своем кармане, а по сути непрофессионалы)
  21. intsurfer
    intsurfer 10 October 2013 12: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: Djozz
    Happy, we have a tariff of 3,62 in Krasnodar. while having its own manufacturer of email.

    Nizhny Novgorod. Refinery 30 km from the city. 92nd gasoline from 28.80 to 30.60 p.

    PS I will add to my previous post: while in our country enterprises and private business will not be encouraged to live with turnover, and not with margins, the economy will fall.
  22. zvereok
    zvereok 10 October 2013 13: 10 New
    +2
    In 2007, he worked in an office with a total number of 37 people:
    6 directors, six drivers, two secretaries, an office manager, me, and 21 a Negro worker, a graduate without any work experience, from which all the juices were squeezed for a year and a half, then either he quit or he was fired so as not to pay bonuses on nearly completed projects.

    So, improving the efficiency of labor will be reduced workers, not directors.

    What a bad people Dmitry Anatolyevich has come across, everyone grumbles when they want to make a slave out of him without power.

    By the way, the observation of the last 5 years. They cut half of the staff by transferring the functionality to the remaining employees, but this naturally did not affect the salary. Now it’s kind of a shrink to get ready.
    1. Sour
      Sour 11 October 2013 13: 28 New
      -1
      If anything, I also know such an office. Engaged in trucking. A whole bunch of directors are the development director, director of security, etc. There are only five directors. But they created this company with their own money. With what fright should they cut themselves?
      Хотя для коммуняк всё просто - эти деньги не их, а "награбленные у народа". Но с таким подходом мы уже жили. Результат известен, страна оказалась в заднице, и выбирается оттуда до сих пор.
      1. SergBrNord
        SergBrNord 15 October 2013 12: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Sour
        If anything, I also know such an office. Engaged in trucking. A whole bunch of directors are the development director, director of security, etc. There are only five directors. But they created this company with their own money. With what fright should they cut themselves?
        Хотя для коммуняк всё просто - эти деньги не их, а "награбленные у народа". Но с таким подходом мы уже жили. Результат известен, страна оказалась в заднице, и выбирается оттуда до сих пор.

        But to reduce their appetites in order to survive is by no means impossible. And yes, who considers the people who were in power in the last years of the Union as communists?
  23. pluginigor
    pluginigor 10 October 2013 13: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Deniska
    I work in production (at a private trader). Does not want a modern business to develop production, it is much easier to be a stupid outbid ((This is sad

    Deniska, you write I work in production and at the same time do not want to develop production. How so? And pr-in to develop this is also not easy. If you are not far away in business then don’t hi the employer
  24. runway
    runway 10 October 2013 13: 28 New
    0
    Everyone understands everything correctly - oligarchs are NOT FAVORABLE to build new high-tech enterprises, create new jobs. They will not spend their money on it (and you thought that the state budget is our money? laughing ) ИМ нужны "быстрые деньги". Срок инвестирования максимум пол-года. Они не думают о стране, её будущем, её населении. Они могут думать только о собственном обогащении. В этом - главная причина нынешнего состояния нашей страны. А имена олигархов всем хорошо известны - они друзья президента laughing
  25. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 10 October 2013 15: 06 New
    +2
    A simple example. Long-range drivers. The tractors are the same. USA driver driving no more than 8 hours, daily mileage 500 800 km per day. Monthly mileage 5000 10000km, Salary 3500 5000 dollars. Russia, driving a day as much as it can and for 20 hours. Daily mileage is the norm from 800 km to 1100 km per day, it's all for one driver. Monthly mileage 15000 20000 km zp 25000 to 50000 rubles, that is, from $ 800 to 1800. This is about the productivity of the ever-drunk Russian hard workers.
    1. ole
      ole 11 October 2013 11: 41 New
      0
      DZ_98_B все правильно написал , забавно вот что по словам автора электроэнергия дороже чем в США на 55% ,а мощностьй меньше нестало а потребителей по "своему региону смотрю" стало не в 2 а в4 раза меньше чем в СССР , вопрос куда энергия девалась what
  26. Sour
    Sour 11 October 2013 12: 59 New
    -1
    Quote: Gennady1973
    It is necessary to build factories, factories, in a word, to build production plants in 30 years, and not as now some shopping centers are growing like mushrooms.

    And what will be produced at these plants? What is missing in the country and the world?
    Who will they sell the products to? Throw it into the warehouse, as was the case with the USSR?
    Who will work for them? Migrant workers? Indeed, in Russia unemployment in cities is scanty, about 1%. But in the whole country 5-6%.
    Or build factories in order to build them? This is what the USSR was doing. And so he fell apart.
    More than sure that you do not have the answer to these questions.
    As, however, among all communists. The Communists have always been able to throw a clear slogan. And how it comes to specifics, immediately the language in the ass. Nothing to say.
    1. SergBrNord
      SergBrNord 15 October 2013 12: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Sour
      And what will be produced at these plants? What is missing in the country and the world?

      Production.
      Quote: Sour
      Who will they sell the products to? Throw it into the warehouse, as was the case with the USSR?

      Minus import.
      Quote: Sour
      Who will work for them? Migrant workers? Indeed, in Russia unemployment in cities is scanty, about 1%. But in the whole country 5-6%.

      The answer is in the question.
      Quote: Sour
      Or build factories in order to build them? This is what the USSR was doing. And so he fell apart.

      a) Rusty belt? No, I have not heard. b) In this case, how will the economy develop? Inflating GDP (indicator = bullshit) through speculation is not growth.
      Quote: Sour
      As, however, among all communists. The Communists have always been able to throw a clear slogan. And how it comes to specifics, immediately the language in the ass. Nothing to say

      Потребует о-очень много времени, чтобы перечислить всё, что коммунисты сделали для Руси. В Беларуси я могу ткнуть в ЛЮБОЕ предприятие пальцем и сказать, что оно постороено Союзом. Да и по всем СНГ на более чем 99% тоже самое. А вот про дерьмократов хватит трёх слов: "Развалили всё подряд."
      Quote: Sour
      More than sure that you do not have the answer to these questions.

      Разбор "по щщам" произведён.