Beating borodin

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On the night of October 6 in The Hague, people in police camouflage uniforms broke into the apartment of Dmitry Borodin, an employee of the Russian embassy. The inviolability of the diplomatic person burst in was not of interest. They did not present documents. Having overcome the lonely resistance of Comrade Borodin, the Hague police knocked him down, handcuffed him, hit him on the head, and then took him to the police station. They released him only in the morning. No explanation was given to the diplomat. Only the pretext for the invasion is known: as if a signal had come from someone that the diplomat was tormenting his children, why they were crying and interfering with the neighbors sleeping. The outrageous beating of a Russian diplomat entered the top world News. V. Putin demanded clarification from The Hague. The ambassador of the Netherlands, Ron van Dartel, was called to the Russian Foreign Ministry, who was handed a note of protest. Borodin himself believes that the cause of the incident is his work to strengthen ties and friendship between Russia and the Netherlands. The media is spreading a version related to the recent arrest of Greenpeace participants in Russia. Experts are already hinting at the Cold War ...

Beating borodin


They beat the owner of the apartment on the eyes of his children. Anastasia Popova ("Vesti") reports that Moscow demanded immediate explanations from Amsterdam, but in the Netherlands they are not in a hurry.

Dmitry Borodin, Minister Counselor at the Russian Embassy in The Hague, told himself about what happened at night:

“He started pushing me into the apartment, I started pushing him back. I defended the children, because I did not know what kind of people they were. They showed no tokens or police badges. There was no order to search, inspect the premises, nothing at all. They knocked me down, beat me with a baton, handcuffed me. Then - a blow to the head. Meanwhile, they looked at the contents of my wallet. ”


One policeman unbuttoned his holster and put his hand on the gun. Then the handcuffed diplomat was taken out of the house, and then children were dragged out.

“She has a hefty shred of hair in the form of rolled up mats. They pulled, apparently, so she went. This is my guess. But the fact that she lost a shred of hair is a fact. ”


So the diplomat talks about how the police dragged his daughter.

Neighbor complaint? Well no. Dmitry is on friendly terms with neighbors. They often walk with the dogs. Actually, this is what one of the neighbors said:

“I saw policemen, heard shouts, swearing, but I do not know what happened. In general, we have decent people who live, a quiet courtyard, there have never been any complaints. ”


The report notes that the Minister Counselor participates in the conduct of the cross year of Russia - Holland. In his opinion, someone does not like it.

In the police station, where Borodin and his children were held for nearly half the night, they refuse to explain the incident. The mayor of the city, who is responsible for the actions of the police, does not want to meet with journalists.

As for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands, it initially unofficially admitted that the police had exceeded their authority. However, it takes time to complete the investigation.

Later, an official comment was received.

The Minister for Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands spoke about the attack on a Russian diplomat. According to him, he is ready to apologize if the investigation confirms the violation of the Vienna Convention. In the meantime, the head of the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not sure that the local security services acted illegally; "Vesti".

Uliana Gortinskaya ("But") talked about the incident in The Hague with the head of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy of the Russian Federation Fedor Lukyanov. He said that in the actions of the Netherlands authorities the features of the Cold War are visible and noted that similar incidents with Soviet diplomats in the West or Western diplomats in the USSR happened “absolutely by accident”. According to Lukyanov, the Dutch representatives may have considered what is happening with “Arctic Sunrise” an extreme case that requires an appropriate response.

Channel "NTV" quoted Vladimir Putin:

“This is a gross violation of the Vienna Conventions. We are waiting for explanations and apologies, as well as punishment of the perpetrators. And depending on how the Dutch side will behave, we will react. ”


Negotiations with the Netherlands have so far led to nothing positive.

An official reaction to the latest statement from The Hague appeared on the Russian MFA website, the same NTV reports. According to Alexander Lukashevich, a representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the results of the negotiations (from October 8) with the Dutch colleagues cannot be satisfied with the Russian side:

“The outcome of the conversations that took place was more than disappointing. The reaction of our Dutch partners was unintelligible, unacceptable and not appropriate to the level of Russian-Dutch relations. The attempt of the Dutch side to somehow justify the harsh police action does not stand up to elementary criticism. ”


Evgenia Novikova ("Independent newspaper") recalled that the Russian Foreign Ministry had previously offered the Netherlands to give explanations on October 8 before 18.00 Moscow time.

The answer from the Dutch side, which arrived around 18 hours, was precisely that the Netherlands was ready to apologize to Russia, but only if the investigation confirmed the violation of the Vienna Convention. The fact that the relevant investigation is underway, said the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands Theiss van Son.

Echo of Moscow indicates that in the Dutch press there were reports of a “drunken state” of Dmitry Borodin. There are also reports that law enforcement officers came to the diplomat’s home twice. The cause of the first call, Saturday, was the accident, which allegedly arranged spouse Borodin, contrived to damage four parked cars.

Writes about it and RBCreferring to the Dutch edition of NOS, which reported that the detainee Dmitry Borodin and his wife were drunk. On Saturday, the wife of D. Borodin allegedly arranged an accident near the house, damaging four cars at once. She herself was injured in the neck and back. The police have determined by the number that the car belongs to the Russian embassy. According to them, the woman was drunk and tried to resist the doctors.

The next call seemed to come from the neighbors: they were disturbed by the cries coming from Borodin’s apartment. From the point of view of the Dutch edition, the police noted that the man "was under the influence of alcohol." They were told that the tenant of the apartment was a diplomat, but for the sake of the safety of the children, they still decided to take Borodin to the precinct.

So, it remains to wait for the results of the investigation. It is already clear that at eighteen hours of yesterday the Netherlands did not achieve anything and did not intend to hurry with apologies or conclusions. And the longer the authorities pull back, the more speculation will appear in the Western and Russian press.

By the way, the Vienna Convention does not remove immunity even from drunk diplomats. Therefore, the Netherlands should apologize for the violation of the convention, and only then investigate the case - as much time as is required by law.

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    1. +118
      9 October 2013 10: 11
      Send the Dutch Embassy from Russia !!! Disable export of flowers !!! How much can you "wipe"? Why does Russia need an apology? This is a representative of the country and he was humiliated and insulted, beaten in front of his children, which means they insulted Russia too !!!
      First in Kuwait, now in Holland tomorrow our diplomats will be beaten around the world? Besides the words of time and deeds, can the dignity and honor of the country begin to defend? hi
      Burst and beat to allegedly protect the children of a diplomat and right there
      So the diplomat talks about how the police dragged his daughter.

      “She has a hefty shred of hair in the form of rolled up mats. They pulled, apparently, so she went. This is my guess. But the fact that she lost a shred of hair is a fact. ”

      Reminds: "We will not leave stone unturned for the sake of world peace" ...
      As a joke:
      To appoint Povetkin, Emelianenko and Valuev to the diplomatic corps of the Netherlands. Call police outfits in their apartments every day until the police are completely exterminated wassat
      1. MAG
        +25
        9 October 2013 10: 16
        I wanted to write so that their embassy would be fucked up because these gays would only be happy. Let's leave these pi without "sweet")))))
        1. +46
          9 October 2013 10: 20
          It is a pity that in our city there is no Dutch consulate. recourse
          PS And Borodin’s shirt is correct. smile
          1. +30
            9 October 2013 10: 33
            The Dutch of course stupidly framed, but ...
            I have suspicions. Our immune officials (judges, prosecutors, deputies, diplomats) are used to impunity and behave accordingly. If it turns out that he and his wife were drunk by drunkenness, the punishment in the homeland should be harsh.
            1. goldfinger
              -24
              9 October 2013 11: 06
              Quote: sergey32
              I have suspicions. Our immune officials (judges, prosecutors, deputies, diplomats) are used to impunity and behave accordingly. If it turns out that he and his wife were drunk by drunkenness, the punishment in the homeland should be harsh.

              From Minsk. You, Sergey, are most likely right. How does the so-called you know the Russian elite well. Borodin is clearly not from the Svetly Put kolkhoz. Major.
              It is necessary to read not only Leontiev.
              This is how the Dutch press covers the incident with diplomat Borodin, an employee of the Russian embassy in the Netherlands.

              “It all started with a car accident in the coastal area of ​​The Hague, Scheveningen. The wife of diplomat Borodin, while driving, lost control and damaged 4 cars that were parked near their house. The ambulance wanted to take the woman to the hospital, which she initially resisted. Perhaps she drank too much alcohol. She was taken to the police station. According to the local press, the department revealed that the car belonged to the Russian embassy.

              While the police were dealing with the accident, the Borodins' neighbor told the police that, in her opinion, the children were mistreated in this apartment. Agents went to check the apartment and found his father drunk. This situation was regarded by agents as threatening the well-being of children (the oldest child is 4 years old and the youngest is almost two years old). Borodin warned agents of his diplomatic rights. However, the agents decided to arrest him and bring him to the department for reasons of child safety. In Holland, as in any country in the world, there are their own rules and their own rules, which situation should be considered as threatening the safety of children, and which should not. The situation that has developed in the Borodin family, the Dutch authorities considered threatening. The authorities would have done the same with tipsy Dutch parents. The Dutch authorities began an investigation. If it turns out that Borodin’s diplomatic rights were violated, Holland will apologize to the Russian side. ”
              Why did the neighbors bother? Because, even in prosperous countries, children are often subjected to cruelties in the family. Therefore, the state calls for vigilance of the school and its neighbors. The Dutch neighbor considered that tipsy parents plus an accident are dangerous, and the police should know that there are two small children in the house. The Dutch police agreed with her.
              And about the investigation that the Dutch authorities began. In 2002, the Dutch government resigned in full force, when Dutch studies proved that Dutch troops as part of the UN combined forces made serious mistakes during the drama in Srebrenica in 1995, when 7000 Bosnian Muslims died. Think for yourself: the government ordered and paid for a study from the treasury, as a result of which the same government decided to resign! Therefore, the investigation will be objective. Holland is a bureaucratic country, investigations are conducted thoroughly and for a long time.
              1. +34
                9 October 2013 11: 32
                Yes, who and how enters MGIMO, and then works as a diplomat is known. Well, for example, Medvedev's son. Of the non-majors, there, in my opinion, are only the winners of the program "Clever and clever." Then our citizen, who is in trouble abroad, will come to the embassy, ​​such a majorik will not turn his head.
                1. +24
                  9 October 2013 13: 38
                  Quote: sergey32
                  Of the non-majors, there, in my opinion, are only the winners of the program "Clever and clever."

                  But why? Now there are also majors from the Caucasus. Everything, without exception stoballniki on the Unified State Examination and winners of all possible Olympiads.
                  1. +8
                    9 October 2013 15: 18
                    As in that joke - Colonel Chingachguk, master of sports.
                  2. +6
                    9 October 2013 17: 19
                    Quote: Garrin
                    Quote: sergey32
                    Of the non-majors, there, in my opinion, are only the winners of the program "Clever and clever."

                    But why? Now there are also majors from the Caucasus. Everything, without exception stoballniki on the Unified State Examination and winners of all possible Olympiads.

                    Soon "Caucasian clever and clever men" will be in Russian embassies. In MGIMO they are already like uncut dogs. They will be in the embassies as the face of the "national idea", which they are looking for in the Kremlin and cannot find everything.
                  3. +10
                    9 October 2013 18: 59
                    you know that in order to enter MGIMO you need much more than good grades in the Unified State Examination?
                2. +5
                  9 October 2013 16: 08
                  "... who enters MGIMO and how, ..." that's for sure, I often drive by and think that the future diplomats of the Great country are studying there. Although indiscriminately everyone is also probably wrong, there are guys who are normal, but the impression is exactly that. Arrogant, not educated, boorish.
                3. +4
                  9 October 2013 18: 58
                  this diplomat does not look like a major ... rather, a very intelligent and intelligent person ...
                  1. +1
                    14 October 2013 01: 24
                    as I understand it, his wife drunk on squinted
              2. +32
                9 October 2013 11: 43
                You don't just have to imagine the case so that in the Netherlands everything is done as it should, ideally. And they don’t take bribes and the police don’t make provocations and the secret services there are decent and tolerant .... Gentlemen, this is a violation of the Vienna Convention and not about the fact that the diplomat was drunk or his wife made a brawl! In addition, if you are picked up by your own police, you will demand an explanation, and then the diplomat has been raked up with children whom they are "being protected" So I want to ask a rhetorical question from an old anecdote: "... Givi, whose brother are you? Mine or a bear ..." Are you a citizen Holland or common man?
                1. +6
                  9 October 2013 12: 33
                  Don't think that I am making excuses for the Dutch. The answer should be right up to the Netherlands, which is unlikely to be. I am worried about who now represents our Motherland abroad. I remembered fmlm "Liquidation". Like homeless children, war orphans, they were forging the future international elite in a diplomatic boarding school. I do not know if it was really so, I would like to believe. I would like to ask my colleagues to insert a song from this film "I Returned Home". I myself, unlike my children, do not have much of the Internet.
                  1. +13
                    9 October 2013 14: 16
                    Quote: sergey32
                    I care about who now represents our homeland abroad.

                    The moral character of the diplomat does not matter at all, unwanted diplomats are expelled from the country, but not butked.
              3. Ulan
                +36
                9 October 2013 11: 44
                "Perhaps" ... "in her opinion" are drop dead grounds for beating and detaining a diplomat.
                Today I will pressurize our native police, which, in my opinion, the Ambassador of the Netherlands is involved in the distribution of drugs.
                How do you think this "authoritative" opinion is enough to break into his apartment, beat him up and take him to the police station?
                Dear ... all your speculations do not matter. There is an international document binding on all civilized countries - the Hague Convention, which prescribes the procedure for action in such cases.
                If you bring an article from there that allows you to break into the house of diplomats, beat and deliver to the police station, I will take off my hat to you and admit that I am wrong.
                In the meantime, you can’t imagine this, all that you wrote is rubbish. Sorry for the harshness.
                As far as I understand, Holland is not going to apologize, so the answer should be tough, up to the expulsion of the ambassador and the termination of diplomatic relations.
                1. goldfinger
                  -31
                  9 October 2013 12: 08
                  Quote: Ulan
                  important ... all your conjectures do not matter. There is an international document binding on all civilized countries - the Hague Convention, which prescribes the procedure for such cases. If you cite an article from there that allows you to break into the house of diplomats, beat and deliver to a police officer plot

                  if children are screaming in the diplomat's "dwelling", his wife rammed 4 cars drunk, and he himself is not sober either, then those around him are obliged to intervene before the children are hurt. This is not happening in a deep forest, but in a European state. And you need to behave there in accordance with the existing rules. The status of a diplomat does not imply the ability to "do what I want". If you can't behave in a civilized way, return to your homeland, where the majors do not even get away with it. Remember the son of S. Ivanov, who killed a woman in a car.
                  Many have forgotten how to live by the law, otherwise there would not have been so many vilifying people on the forum who are not even aware that one can live out of concept. As in Russia, and in Belarus, if they see an offense, then at best they will pass by, or even cover the criminal. That the level of trust in the civilized country in the police is so high that just the neighbors consider it their duty to report a suspicious situation, and the police, in turn, respond to this, and this is considered NORMAL, because the law is above all, and the policeman is a servant of the law.

                  By the way about dip. there’s no need to bring immunity to some nonsense here, let's hypertrophy the situation, and the police will catch a diplomat of any country with weapons in their hands and a corpse lying next to her, she will delay him anyway until all circumstances are clarified, if the guilt is obvious, then the situation will develop further depending on the agreements between the countries and the legislation of the country in which the offense was committed, they can either send a diplomat or judge a diplomat and put him right there in that country, and no diplomat. status will not save.
                  1. +10
                    9 October 2013 13: 00
                    You know, I don’t put any “minuses”, but the conclusion about your ability to “pull on the globe” cannot be refuted ...
                    1. goldfinger
                      -20
                      9 October 2013 13: 46
                      From Minsk.
                      Quote: dmit-52
                      You know, I don’t put any “minuses”, but the conclusion about your ability to “pull on the globe” cannot be refuted ...

                      And I like that "purple" your opinion about my abilities. I wonder why you were too lazy or ashamed to bring your "wisdom" completely? After all, the use of profanity in the comments on the site is off scale. You must be in the "mass"! Why be ashamed! Forward!
                      1. +11
                        9 October 2013 16: 06
                        Well, in comparison with the ear of Moscow or the tweeter of a talking horse, here are gathered entirely "botanists" who do not even know bad words
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                      3. 0
                        10 October 2013 02: 41
                        You must be in the "mass"! Why be ashamed! Forward


                        Do not be rude, comrade instigator.
                      4. +4
                        10 October 2013 10: 12
                        And by the way, why do you believe this message that Borodin’s wife was drunk and rammed cars, and that Borodin himself was drunk? Or the Dutch can’t lie to turn around? They were NOT TESTED for alcohol. And if so, then generally speaking about the state of intoxication is legally impossible.
                  2. +29
                    9 October 2013 13: 36
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    By the way about dip. immunity is not necessary to carry nonsense here to some, let's hypertrophy the situation

                    Let's not hypertrophy, but let's figure it out. The drunken wife drove into the car, and Borodin himself, drunk, is not good, if so. The Dutch would have been great if they sent us an official note on this subject, we would have lost a lot in terms of image, and Borodin, along with the whole family, went home (maybe). But the situation is such that a preventive measure of the possible, I emphasize a possible offense is in no way symmetrical to the threat. In addition, a person with diplomatic immunity is not an ordinary citizen at all, no matter how beautiful his country of residence is. Therefore, international rudeness is evident here. And the concept has nothing to do with it.
                    1. Barracuda148
                      +1
                      9 October 2013 17: 12
                      I agree completely
                    2. +5
                      9 October 2013 21: 10
                      That's right! A diplomat is a diplomat, an inviolable person under international law, the state that sent him is responsible for it. fool
                    3. Ka3ak
                      +3
                      10 October 2013 02: 13
                      Yes, where is the examination for intoxication? Scratch your tongue and erect slabs, after frowned, is that really something proves ?!
                      1. stroporez
                        0
                        12 October 2013 23: 07
                        Quote from: KA3AK
                        where is the examination for alcohol intoxication?
                        what for? he was a drunken Toko because he was Russian, his son was studying with a friend's magician in America. and so it is on campus that a bicycle or even a skateboard can be lost. Local "law enforcers" immediately press all "Russians". and-nii ... pet. and they deeply cares that half of these students are Kazakhs, some are Lithuanians, Belarusians, Ukrainians .........
                        1. gunnerminer
                          +1
                          12 October 2013 23: 26
                          Quote: stroporez
                          Quote from: KA3AK
                          where is the examination for alcohol intoxication?
                          what for? he was a drunken Toko because he was Russian, his son was studying with a friend's magician in America. and so it is on campus that a bicycle or even a skateboard can be lost. Local "law enforcers" immediately press all "Russians". and-nii ... pet. and they deeply cares that half of these students are Kazakhs, some are Lithuanians, Belarusians, Ukrainians .........



                          If that were the case, the students would return to study in their own countries. Why aren’t they going home from America like this? Nobody keeps them in America by sentence.
                        2. stroporez
                          0
                          13 October 2013 09: 12
                          because money was spent, and, most importantly, time ...........
                  3. +10
                    9 October 2013 14: 22
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    It is not a deep forest, but a European state.

                    Take off your pink glasses, yes, it’s not in a deep forest, but in a rotten swamp.
                    What are the children to blame?
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    the police will catch a diplomat of any country with weapons in their hands and a corpse lying nearby, she will detain him in any case until all circumstances are clarified, if the guilt is obvious,

                    Then they will judge such a diplomat at home, you can demand deprivation dip. status. In the meantime, he is a diplomat - they won’t even put him for murder.
                  4. Ulan
                    +13
                    9 October 2013 15: 56
                    You see, those who say nonsense are those who believe that fulfilling international obligations and fulfilling signed agreements is "nonsense."
                    You call Holland civilized, a country that spits on international rules in the field of diplomacy, and Russia, which operates under the convention, turns out to be uncivilized for you. Healthy for 20 years, liberal propaganda has brainwashed some that they accept black for white and justify criminals, and these Dutch policemen undoubtedly criminals, ... and pour mud on the victims.
                    I personally will not "hypertrophy" anything with you, but if, but suppose, .... and if he was carrying cartridges, and if he was a Martian.
                    There is a specific situation, and we are discussing it, the situation is quite unequivocal - a provocation. And fantasies about free themes do not interest me.
                  5. +9
                    9 October 2013 16: 04
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    if children shout in the diplomat's "dwelling", his wife rammed 4 cars drunk, and he himself is not sober either

                    and the remnants of human bodies that the ambassador ate at breakfast in the morning did not find there ?!
                    would have been drunk a hundred times would have presented the examination, the accident report, etc., except that he was, in principle, outside the Dutch jurisdiction all that they had the right to do was to declare him persona non grata
                  6. +5
                    9 October 2013 16: 12
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    Many have forgotten how to live by the law, otherwise there would not have been so many vilifying people on the forum who are not even aware that one can live out of concept.

                    when you read the laws, read them
                    Diplomatic personnel and persons with diplomatic rank enjoy full immunity. They cannot be arrested and detained. The host State ensures their safety. The diplomat’s living quarters are inviolable, even temporary, such as a hotel or sanatorium room, as well as his property.
                    1. Ulan
                      +5
                      9 October 2013 17: 27
                      That's it. As they say, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. The most interesting thing is that this Convention was signed in Holland and the Netherlands did not give a damn about it.
                      Geyropeytsy degenerate. Here and rage foreseeing that a couple of decades and a kayuk.
                    2. +12
                      9 October 2013 18: 20
                      Vasilenko Vladimir (2) SU Today, 16:12 _131009 / Wed

                      Hello dear Vladimir!

                      You are right in your understanding of the “DIP Worker STATUS”. good He himself, as a person or my / your neighbor, may be an alcoholic and an impudent nits, it happens, but his status is not comparable with yours or mine.

                      If something happens and they beat or God forbid you to mutilate you in your native country (Russia) or me here in Slovakia (I am a citizen of Ukraine), then you and I can only look for truth and legality in the domestic law enforcement bodies (prosecutor's office, investigator, court , civil or criminal, with the support of the Prosecutor's Office “Legal Case”). Whether we will achieve Apologies, corrections, punishment of sadists from the police, compensation for damage, this is the second moment, but it all depends on ourselves.

                      In the case of a diplomat and members of his family, his home country is responsible for it, which can demoralize and judge him at home.

                      But for its SECURITY and SECURITY, the host country is responsible, and the fact of police humiliation and assault (4 against one?), this is a clear and flagrant violation of the practice of international deep relations !!!

                      And here the question is about the HONOR and DIGNITY of the native country of this diplomat, that is, Russia!

                      And such “police attacks” on Russian diplomats, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Putin, must be tackled toughly and quickly “in the bud”, otherwise the status of Russian diplomatic workers abroad “will be lowered below the plinth”.
                  7. +7
                    9 October 2013 17: 05
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    if children shout in the diplomat's "dwelling"

                    And what of it? Parents do not have the right to raise their children, or punish them? I was flogged almost every day in my childhood, and I did the right thing, now I am grateful to my parents for growing up as a man and not as a frostbitten idiot. And who have geyropeytsev growing up? People as they say without shame and conscience in the literal sense!
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    his wife drunk rammed 4 cars

                    Well, draw up a protocol, insurance will pay for everything, what does this crash have to do with it?
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    he himself is also not sober, then those around him are obliged to intervene until the children are hurt.

                    And why should children suffer? A diplomat who already sat for some crimes against children? Generally some kind of nonsense you say .. Or suggest prohibiting all parents to drink?
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    The status of a diplomat does not imply the ability to "do what I want".

                    Here you cannot disagree, but there must be at least an arrest warrant for detention, which means that there are good reasons for this, I’m silent about the inviolability ..
                    1. +7
                      9 October 2013 19: 43
                      I have the impression that your opponent is an ardent admirer of European values ​​and, in addition, is an oppositionist in Belarus. Spit on him, they will still stand their ground - Europa is an ideal, and the rest are slaves ... Pedikov must be protected so you still need to be able to :)
                  8. +4
                    9 October 2013 18: 50
                    can't you read? maybe you need to go back to school?

                    even if a diplomat commits a murder in front of all the cops of the Hague, he has no right to not only judge, but even touch ...
                    maximum - expulsion from the country ...
                  9. 0
                    9 October 2013 21: 05
                    My friend! Russia needs to be respected, and a protest against the guilty diplomat should be sent to protest. Like this! fool Our state is responsible for it.
                  10. +1
                    10 October 2013 10: 09
                    By the way about dip. there’s no need to bring immunity to some nonsense here, let's hypertrophy the situation, and the police will catch a diplomat of any country with weapons in their hands and a corpse lying next to her, she will delay him anyway until all circumstances are clarified, if the guilt is obvious, then the situation will develop further depending on the agreements between the countries and the legislation of the country in which the offense was committed, they can either send a diplomat or judge a diplomat and put him right there in that country, and no diplomat. status will not save.


                    Even if a diplomat is found on a corpse with a dagger in his hands, he will be handed over to the embassy / consulate. Because he has diplomatic immunity. You at least learn a little about the history of diplomacy.
                  11. +1
                    10 October 2013 10: 36
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    By the way about dip. there’s no need to bring immunity to some nonsense here, let's hypertrophy the situation, and the police will catch a diplomat of any country with weapons in their hands and a corpse lying nearby, she will delay him in any case until all the circumstances are clarified, if the guilt is obvious,

                    how are you wrong
                    I know two very similar cases, one in the Republic of Kazakhstan, a representative of the embassy ran over a child, refused medical examination and sent everyone to and soon just left the country, the house was not brought to justice, in Kyrgyzstan, the Americans near the "kant" stupidly shot a man and also sent everyone
                  12. stroporez
                    0
                    12 October 2013 23: 01
                    having given sho you seem to be .......... won, if you remember correctly in 2005, nemchura, two students in Moscow right at the crosswalk "screwed up" ..... and CHO ?????? ???????? and no cho ------- a year conditionally and 5000 euros in a fine .......... because this is the very convention. and you are here, I apologize "tryndite" about
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    the police will catch a diplomat of any country with weapons in their hands and a corpse lying next to her, she will detain him in any case until all circumstances are clarified
                    some "civilized" well, I don't want to be equal with the "Slavic trash"
                2. bif
                  +12
                  9 October 2013 12: 15
                  Totally agree with you. In light of the fact that the year of Holland was announced in the Russian Federation, I propose to return them the ill-fated greenhouse icebreaker to drive into the harbor and, in front of an amazed audience, arrange a salute, having previously loaded a couple of tons of RDX and confiti. Enchanting return of the ship in parts with home delivery.
                  1. 0
                    9 October 2013 13: 01
                    Quote: bif
                    after loading a couple of tons of RDX and confiti. Enchanting return of the ship in parts with home delivery.
                    bif I accidentally slammed the minus ((sorry. Correct!
                  2. bif
                    +15
                    9 October 2013 14: 30
                    News of the hour. The strategic weapon of the Russian Federation "Onishchenko" is attacking. A restriction on dairy products from the Netherlands is introduced, under the restriction of 71 enterprises. http://vz.ru/news/2013/10/9/654114.html
                    1. +2
                      9 October 2013 18: 56
                      he just started wink
                3. +10
                  9 October 2013 20: 16
                  Quote: Ulan
                  As far as I understand, Holland is not going to apologize, so the answer should be tough, up to the expulsion of the ambassador and the termination of diplomatic relations.

                  Perhaps the solution lies in a different plane. Today I read that a marihuna was found on the Arctic Sunrise icebreaker. The word "presumably" gives a chance to the Dutch authorities and the citizen of Aulashen with her fellow countrymen. It is possible that if the Dutch authorities turn out to be slow-witted, then instead of mythical piracy, someone from the Dutch will have a real sentence for drugs.
                  By the way, the captain of the Arctic Sunrise turns out to be a Native American, and on board a part of the equipment, it is very possible that it has a dual purpose. Hello from Bout and Yaroshenko.
                  And the icebreaker confiscate a holy cause after espionage and drugs ...
                  1. +3
                    9 October 2013 21: 21
                    In! and put these nature lovers on good terms.
              4. +11
                9 October 2013 11: 50
                Quote: goldfinger
                How does the so-called you know the Russian elite well. Borodin is clearly not from the Svetly Put kolkhoz. Major. It is necessary to read not only Leontyev.

                Borodin warned agents of his diplomatic rights. However, the agents decided to arrest him and bring him to the department for reasons of child safety.

                Do not confuse local laws with international ones. They are not applicable to diplomats. And it doesn’t matter if he is drunk or sober. Only a messenger country can judge him.
                1. +5
                  9 October 2013 19: 46
                  Dear, why is it for neighbors who claim that it is okay with the victims to swear at them? Don't you think that all these "children are crying", "drunken wife" and the rest of the Bret were invented to justify themselves?
                  1. +3
                    9 October 2013 21: 25
                    And I personally do not believe in it! There were no representatives of our state during the arrest, which means it is a pure setup. tongue
              5. +2
                9 October 2013 12: 55
                Please read the Regulations on Diplomatic Status before posting. What actions are being taken with regard to diplomats and in the presence of whom.
              6. +11
                9 October 2013 13: 07
                Quote: goldfinger
                Holland is a bureaucratic country, investigations are conducted thoroughly and for a long time.

                And peda ..... I, in general, a highly spiritual country now.
                I don’t know exactly how it is according to the canons of international law, but if Minister Counselor(not some collegiate registrar there) and his wife are outrageous, they get drunk on vodka, violate Dutch discipline, then the first thing, probably, is to run to the embassy, ​​tell the ambassador, or even their minister can call Lavrov. I’ll declare it to be done. I’ll send it if it’s completely bloomed.
                Did the Dutch authorities do this?
                But a diplomat, who, incidentally, is ranked right after the ambassador, it’s not good to beat and get into the precinct with the children, even if he was drunk. But-that is unlikely.
                You can’t do this, the convention does not allow.
                So our ambassador can describe in his Netherlands Holland ... and say that it’s so customary now, he, they say, simply did not understand the buzz ... request
                If not apology and punishment guilty persons, let their icebreaker stand on the Murmansk raid until it decays along with the captain and company.
              7. +10
                9 October 2013 13: 53
                Quote: goldfinger
                You, Sergey, are most likely right. How does the so-called you know the Russian elite well. Borodin is clearly not from the Svetly Put kolkhoz. Major.

                So you think you can beat a diplomat, a representative of Russia? Then let us start such a mess, but Russia will not stoop to this because we are a Great Power (it’s better to put Greenpeace for piracy for 10 years)
              8. sia_58
                +3
                9 October 2013 14: 43
                Did the resignation of some government help the 7000 dead? Or "sorry" for the murder will satisfy the relatives of the victims. This is how any crime can be justified. And everyone is tired of talking about double standards in the West.
                1. goldfinger
                  -1
                  9 October 2013 15: 22
                  Or "sorry" for the murder will satisfy the relatives of the victims. Quote.
                  Are you delusional? What murder? Muslims were shot by their opponents in the civil war! The Dutch were part of the "KFOR peacekeeping force", one of many units that were inactive at the time!
                  1. Barracuda148
                    +5
                    9 October 2013 17: 15
                    The Dutch acted like accomplices of these Muslims
                  2. +4
                    9 October 2013 21: 31
                    The Dutch only entered, but they didn’t do anything peacekeeping, they just watched. But they don’t take ours into peacekeeping forces, because where our peacekeepers are there, the war ends. soldier
              9. Anhaght
                +9
                9 October 2013 15: 18
                Of course, in case of danger to the children, the police had to intervene, but they had absolutely no right whatsoever to enter the home of a diplomat (envoy) and use force against him. It was necessary by all rules to contact the embassy, ​​to invite a consul or ambassador.

                From the Vienna Convention
                about diplomatic relations
                (Vienna, April 18, 1961):
                "ARTICLE 29 - The person of a diplomatic agent is inviolable. He may not be arrested or detained in any form. The receiving State is obliged to treat him with due respect and to take all appropriate measures to prevent any encroachment on his person, freedom or dignity. ...
                ARTICLE 30 - The private residence of a diplomatic agent shall enjoy the same inviolability and protection as the premises of a mission. "
              10. goldfinger
                -18
                9 October 2013 15: 46
                From Minsk. THIS IS ALREADY SCHIZOPHRENIA. Fall asleep with minuses !!!
                Dutch dairy products not tested by Rosselkhoznadzor
                09.10.2013, 12: 45 | "Newspaper.Ru"

                The preliminary results of the inspection of suppliers of dairy products from the Netherlands to Russia are unsatisfactory, Interfax reports with reference to a statement by the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor Sergey Dankvert.

                In particular, urgent updating of the list of suppliers by the Dutch veterinary service is necessary. “As it turned out, the veterinary service of this country signs the documents without seeing the products ... On the other hand, under the Ministry of Economy of the Netherlands there is a service that checks the quality of milk. It turns out that veterinarians check milk less, and we accept guarantees not of the veterinary service, but of a different structure - we don’t understand this, ”Dankvert explained, adding that now the Russian veterinary service will carefully examine the country's dairy products.

                To date, 71 enterprises are included in the list of suppliers. “But the desire to supply their products to Russia is not a basis for inclusion in the list of suppliers, the basis is the fulfillment of Russian veterinary and sanitary requirements,” the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor said.
                Madhouse.
                1. +4
                  9 October 2013 16: 21
                  it's quite normal
                  1. +3
                    9 October 2013 17: 37
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    it's quite normal

                    Well, to be objective. Where was Onishchenko with his office before the incident with the diplomat?
                    So we were still supplied with guinea-pig milk from Holland, and Mr. Onishchenko was sleeping, waiting for instructions from above, and the Russian buyer was buying Dutch at that time. Can at the same time change Onishchenko, along with Dutch dairy products?
                    1. +6
                      9 October 2013 18: 15
                      Quote: Polar
                      Well, to be objective. Where was Onishchenko with his office before the incident with the diplomat?

                      in the same place, you can safely close the majority of food imports, bo how.
                      this is the joker in the sleeve that gets when you need it, maybe cynically but ... it's politics
                    2. Nitup
                      +1
                      9 October 2013 19: 01
                      Quote: Polar
                      Well, to be objective. Where was Onishchenko with his office before the incident with the diplomat?
                      So we were still supplied with guinea-pig milk from Holland, and Mr. Onishchenko was sleeping, waiting for instructions from above, and the Russian buyer was buying Dutch at that time. Can at the same time change Onishchenko, along with Dutch dairy products?

                      And here where was Onishchenko. Do you think they really found something there? We can find anything in our products when it is necessary for political reasons. Yes, even we can add to the samples if necessary
                      1. 0
                        13 October 2013 19: 23
                        Found or not found, it’s all not important. But the economic demarche is more adequate than the diplomatic one. If the Dutch side does not understand well what the status of a diplomat means, what money they understand perfectly, I think that this approach, although not entirely correct, but in this case the best solution, let them calculate the minus in the balance, and think about it!
                        They know how to count money in Europe ..
                    3. +8
                      9 October 2013 19: 03
                      were you born yesterday?
                      our weapons of mass destruction excite in 2 cases:
                      1. real danger to life and health (which is rare)
                      2. brings to life the very frenzied neighbors (which happens often)

                      It’s time for the Dutch to stop eating crap ...
                  2. stroporez
                    0
                    12 October 2013 23: 17
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    it's quite normal
                    ------ I do not agree ------- this is more than normal, moreover, in the spirit of the times ..........
                2. +2
                  9 October 2013 18: 36
                  Quote: goldfinger
                  From Minsk. THIS IS ALREADY SCHIZOPHRENIA.

                  if you have schizophrenia then where does the rest and their fair minuses? wink
                  Or do you naively believe that after such ... new special favors will be introduced for the Netherlands?
                  Or naively think that in the Netherlands do not use all kinds of rubbish in the production of milk and dairy products?
                  You have to answer for the "bazaar". I understand, of course, that for a certain part of the population of this country it is better to answer with a booty with pleasure than to answer with milk. wink
                  But there is something.
                3. +1
                  9 October 2013 19: 01
                  this is just the beginning ...
                4. +1
                  9 October 2013 21: 38
                  So the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor correctly stated, let them use their products themselves and know our main weapon, there is nothing to touch our diplomats.
                5. +1
                  9 October 2013 22: 45
                  Quote: goldfinger
                  Dutch dairy products not tested by Rosselkhoznadzor

                  Onishchenko's hammer !!!! Keep it up !! laughing
              11. +3
                9 October 2013 16: 18
                Quote: goldfinger
                Agents went to check the apartment

                You can ask, and on the basis of what laws did they enter? !!!!!
              12. xan
                +5
                9 October 2013 16: 28
                Quote: goldfinger
                While the police were dealing with the accident, the Borodins' neighbor told the police that, in her opinion, the children were mistreated in this apartment. Agents went to check the apartment and found his father drunk. This situation was regarded by agents as threatening the well-being of children (the oldest child is 4 years old and the youngest is almost two years old). Borodin warned agents of his diplomatic rights. However, the agents decided to arrest him and bring him to the unit for reasons of child safety.

                For those from Minsk
                Under the Vienna Convention, immunity from drunken diplomats is not lifted.
                Why did the Dutch Foreign Ministry not mention the accident of his wife and Borodin's drunkenness? Because it cannot be an excuse for what happened.
                And let them write in their newspapers whatever they want.
              13. +3
                9 October 2013 18: 25
                Quote: goldfinger
                In Holland, as in any country in the world, there are their own rules and their own rules, which situation should be considered as threatening the safety of children, and which should not.

                Apologist Dutch you, it is clear not "in the course" that international law is placed above "its own rules and regulations" and Holland has undertaken to abide by it.
              14. 0
                9 October 2013 21: 23
                And after summing up the results of the investigation, too, will everyone resign together? bully
              15. +6
                9 October 2013 21: 31
                If the diplomat violates the laws of the host country, he will be expelled. Even if his wife damages the 600 machines of the pitiful Dutch at the same time, our country will pay, and everyone knows that. Only later will they figure out who is to blame for what, at home and only at home. Diplomatic immunity, do you know such a thing?
                It was invented in Europe and invented for a reason. Around the ambassador of any country there are always so many political difficulties that it is never and under no circumstances to find the truth. That is why no one is looking for - they simply do not touch the ambassador and diplomats. It is enough to send one or two, if they really lose the coast (this happens) and they always find the council at home on their diplomats.
                However, the Dutch did nothing of the sort. They burst into the diplomat's home, beat him, beat the children ... Most of all, this reminds of Congo or Burkina Faso of the 50s of the last century. What irrefutably testifies is that the Netherlands lost both culture and literacy (most of all, it seems that the police simply did not know who they broke into), and basic mental abilities. It is just as ridiculous to talk about any kind of morality - if, in order to "save children from a drunken father," a lock of hair is torn from the head of children, what kind of salvation is that? What, did another pedophile order a young Slavic girl through social services? Are the goblins happy to try?
                A wild tribe, indistinctly roaring some kind of nonsense, unable to even articulately answer, from what a hangover his bandits attacked our ambassador, of course, should be punished. Sorry for the efforts of our diplomacy, but ... What kind of diplomacy with dirty troglodytes ?! It is necessary to recall the ambassador "for consultations", to close the embassy, ​​to recommend tourists to immediately leave the dangerous place. Reduce the volume of trade to a minimum, leaving only binding contracts. If they walked through the forest, let them learn to speak humanly for a start, then it will be possible to try to communicate with them again. But next time, demand one hundred or two hundred hectares in the center of the country for a diplomatic town. And to place a guard regiment there so that some kind of urla in uniform would no longer touch our kids ...
                1. gunnerminer
                  -8
                  9 October 2013 21: 37
                  However, the Dutch did nothing of the sort. They broke into the home of a diplomat, beat him, beat children ...



                  In the television reports, Mr. Borodin sparkles with a greasy physiognomy, slightly pink. He is visibly hung up! Bruises, abrasions, scratches are not visible. There are no signs of beatings.
                  1. +8
                    9 October 2013 22: 31
                    "In TV reports, Mr. Borodin sparkles with a greasy physiognomy, slightly pink. He's obviously drunk! Bruises, abrasions, scratches are not visible. There are no traces of beatings."


                    I think that your physiognomy is spiritualized, elf-like and generally very beautiful. It is you who deserve this wonderful physiognomy to represent anything at the international level ... well, what to do, the Foreign Ministry missed. You will forgive them that you, an unearthly handsome, are in these miserable fools ... Moreover, you are also a noble psychic. From an electronic photograph, it is powerful to determine whether a person has a hangover or did not drink at all ... I prostrate and cry.
                    I, a miserable krivedko, I can only timidly notice that it’s not always that people are beaten in the face. Particularly able to beat scum bandits that the police pretend to be. Otmudohan is a man to the hospital, but the traces are dumb. Can you imagine the news ?!
                2. xan
                  +9
                  10 October 2013 01: 25
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  And to place a guard there, so that some kind of url in uniform would not touch our kids anymore ...

                  I remember in Poland several years ago the children of Russian diplomats studying in Polish schools were beaten. The Polish authorities apologized and said they were looking for hooligans. But the attacks stopped when a Polish diplomat without hesitation got a lyule in the Moscow passage from some gopniks. What is especially nice - the Moscow gopota had no complaints about Polish children.
                  It seems to me that this is interconnected, and that simple solutions are not always ineffective.
              16. +2
                9 October 2013 21: 50
                Quote: goldfinger
                Why did the neighbors bother? Because, even in prosperous countries, children are often subjected to cruelties in the family. Therefore, the state calls for vigilance of the school and its neighbors. The Dutch neighbor considered that tipsy parents plus an accident are dangerous, and the police should know that there are two small children in the house. The Dutch police agreed with her.

                And for this reason, a person with diplomatic status was fucked up.
                We also have to say thanks to the neighbors. Our mirror also burst in the elevator - the Finnish police decided that we just need to scare the mirror !!!
              17. WW3
                WW3
                +3
                10 October 2013 00: 46
                Quote: goldfinger
                While the police were dealing with the accident, the Borodins' neighbor told the police that, in her opinion, the children were mistreated in this apartment. Agents went to check the apartment and found his father drunk. This situation was regarded by agents as threatening the well-being of children (the oldest child is 4 years old and the youngest is almost two years old).

                Yes bullshit - Borodin loves children. This is just black PR.
                A photo of him with a child.
                1. gunnerminer
                  -11
                  10 October 2013 01: 23
                  Yes bullshit - Borodin loves children. This is just black PR.



                  Love is for show! How diplomatically, sober dad with a child.
                  1. WW3
                    WW3
                    +2
                    10 October 2013 02: 15
                    Quote: gunnerminer
                    Love is for show! How diplomatically, sober dad with a child.

                    You are putting it mildly wrong, I went to his personal page there another photo of him with a child in his arms, I don’t want to upload it all personal.
                  2. +5
                    10 October 2013 02: 34
                    Quote: gunnerminer
                    Love is for show! How diplomatically, sober dad with a child.

                    I have three gigabytes of such photos, and I don’t need to PR!
                    But your hatred of everything Russian is not ostentatious.
                  3. 0
                    10 October 2013 17: 16
                    Doctor or what ?!
              18. +4
                10 October 2013 10: 00
                goldfinger

                The question is not Borodin's "elite / not elite". If he is the elite, then what can they do there with an ordinary Russian? Have you ever thought about it?

                Now let's go through the Dutch "excuses".
                It all started with a car accident in the coastal area of ​​The Hague, Scheveningen


                Something they just can’t figure out where she damaged the 4 machines. Either on their street, because of which neighbors tapped on it, or somewhere in the coastal region. Only the quantity is the same everywhere.

                According to the local press, the department revealed that the car belonged to the Russian embassy.


                The diplomatic status of a car is determined by its number. Therefore, this status was understood in advance. So there’s also a little love.

                Because, even in prosperous countries, children are often subjected to cruelties in the family. Therefore, the state calls for vigilance of the school and its neighbors.


                The state would better protect children from itself, which organizes sex enlightenment for younger students.
                But even if violence against children occurs in the family of diplomats, then the local police should not solve these issues, but the leadership of the diplomatic mission. Of course, if Borody and his wife, drunk to blue crocodiles, would hang their children on their feet on a tree above a fire and dance around, then the police should intervene.
                But the fact that the mere presence of a person in a state of intoxication can be considered a threat to a child in a country where soft drugs are allowed, is not necessary.
                And by the way, as far as I understand, Borodin was not tested for alcohol. As did his wife, who "disagreed."

                In 2002, the Dutch government resigned in full force, when Dutch studies proved that Dutch troops as part of the UN combined forces made serious mistakes during the drama in Srebrenica in 1995, when 7000 died Bosnian Muslims.


                Now read what I have in bold. Do you think they would be punished just as severely if the Serbs were affected?
            2. -6
              9 October 2013 17: 58
              Judging by the habitus, the patient is clearly not a teetotaler. Or does it seem to me alone?
              1. gunnerminer
                -8
                9 October 2013 21: 28
                Judging by the habitus, the patient is clearly not a teetotaler. Or does it seem to me alone?





                Yes, it’s obvious that the patient likes to have lunch and dinner with vodka. In the photo, the neck of the carafe is clearly visible. Alkash smiles with a diplomatic passport, the first hundredth went well, a nightingale!
                1. +4
                  9 October 2013 22: 05
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  Yes, it seems that the patient likes to have lunch and dinner with vodka.

                  Well, then normal Russian! For me, those people who don’t drink at all are suspicious ...
                  1. +3
                    10 October 2013 01: 35
                    Quote: bot.su
                    For me, those people who don’t drink at all are suspicious ...

                    good Yakshcho lyudyna ne pye, won anyhow ailment, anyway a scumbag.
                    1. +1
                      10 October 2013 11: 28
                      If a person does not smoke and does not drink, then you will involuntarily think about it - whether he is a bastard. (from)
                2. +2
                  9 October 2013 22: 42
                  But I always take mineral water for food. I like to drink water with water ... and the mineral water’s neck is exactly the same! Well, I'm a goofy drunk, about woe to me, woe ...
                3. xan
                  +2
                  10 October 2013 01: 30
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  Yes, it’s obvious that the patient likes to have lunch and dinner with vodka. In the photo, the neck of the carafe is clearly visible. Alkash smiles with a diplomatic passport, the first hundredth went well, a nightingale!

                  Enough already, you become ridiculous, already got the European Tolerast.
                  his face is normal, what is your business.
                  1. gunnerminer
                    -2
                    10 October 2013 01: 32
                    Enough already, you become ridiculous, already got the European Tolerast.
                    his face is normal, what is your business.




                    Yes, that's the thing. Internet.
            3. Garrym
              +4
              9 October 2013 18: 08
              Sergey completely agree with you, only the methods chosen by Holland are too radical. It was possible to file a complaint with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and if the hooligan and the drunkard were too malicious, they would be expelled from the country ... And it turns out that they got over from melee and, accordingly, must answer. That's just Russia should ask stronger !!!!
              1. +4
                9 October 2013 19: 05
                and where is the evidence that he is a drunkard?

                and yet, does this justify pulling the baby by the hair?
            4. +1
              9 October 2013 23: 50
              Quote: sergey32
              If it turns out that he and his wife were drunk by drunkenness, the punishment in the homeland should be harsh.

              Someone would argue. But He is a diplomat, he is not touched!
              Already on the site can not be called an alternative-oriented simple Russian word-hoarder (ride?)
              Everyone out there judges us on TV and the "new Abramovich". He worked with French, Germans, Romanians, "Ukrainians" - specialist / specialist level.
              The first is fear.
              The second is interest.
              Third-snot / drool.
              The fourth is relief (let go alive)!
              Fifth, a story to colleagues about miraculous salvation ...
              Not all, but - uh ... the Dutch.
          2. smersh70
            -16
            9 October 2013 10: 33
            Quote: Vladimirets
            And Borodin’s shirt is correct


            but it’s worthless to a Russian diplomat winked there should have been something patriotic. hi ... probably someone’s son ... in his youth in the 80s probably naughty ... bully
            1. +3
              9 October 2013 16: 37
              Quote: smersh70
              probably someone's son

              we are all someone's children
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          3. xan
            +3
            9 October 2013 16: 16
            Quote: Vladimirets
            And Borodin’s shirt is correct.

            and he’s suspicious
            the man is clearly not simple
        2. Airman
          +3
          9 October 2013 10: 36
          Quote: MAG
          I wanted to write so that their embassy would be fucked up because these gays would only be happy. Let's leave these pi without "sweet")))))

          Something tells me that in addition to "loud" statements, the case will be released on the brakes, the green papers will be released, and flowers from the Netherlands will delight our women, although our flowers last longer.
          1. +4
            9 October 2013 19: 07
            after that they won’t let go of it ...

            Today, the UK unexpectedly took care of the dual-use equipment of the Greenpeace and found drugs, so they will be added ... am
            1. Airman
              -1
              9 October 2013 21: 27
              Quote: DanaF1
              after that they won’t let go of it ...

              Today, the UK unexpectedly took care of the dual-use equipment of the Greenpeace and found drugs, so they will be added ... am

              It was necessary to talk about drugs right away, and now, after they were put in jail, this is an obvious setup.
              1. +2
                9 October 2013 21: 44
                is not a fact...
                the icebreaker is not such a small crime scene, it can be searched for several days ...
                1. xan
                  +1
                  10 October 2013 01: 05
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  is not a fact...
                  the icebreaker is not such a small crime scene, it can be searched for several days ...

                  they’re Dutch, and there it’s easier with that, and that we have drugs, they don’t
                  1. 0
                    10 October 2013 12: 55
                    and who cares now? bully
              2. +1
                9 October 2013 22: 12
                This is not a setup, this is a hint. After all, they found not drugs, but "supposedly" drugs. But Putin is clear, said - our actions will depend on how Holland behaves. While they are doing it right, they apologized. There is little to do - to compensate for material and moral damage. Although here they will pull for sure.
        3. +3
          9 October 2013 10: 55
          I can imagine what would happen if I had visited an American diplomat in this way. lol
          1. +7
            9 October 2013 13: 02
            - Why, in Libya, they somehow "visited" an American diplomat - so what?
            1. goldfinger
              -17
              9 October 2013 13: 30
              What firmness and inflexibility breathed in the actions of the Russian Foreign Ministry when he presented a harsh ultimatum and demanded an apology and punishment for the guilty in a quiet, calm European country!
              It’s hard to believe that just a few days earlier the same Foreign Ministry was organizing a feverish flight of its employees (later called “evacuation”) from little Libya, where ordinary people, without hesitation, were already going to smash the “Russian embassy”.
              And the "diplomats" shut up and keep quiet, and they do not remember the Vienna Convention.
              And in the Netherlands a lot of interesting things are beginning to emerge ...
              PS For a minute, imagine how the "drunk" diplomat Borodin, "who can do anything," could behave, knowing that his wife was sitting in the police station for a drunken accident. After all, not a weak career is the finish.
              Quote: dmit-52
              - Why, in Libya, they somehow "visited" an American diplomat - so what?
              1. +12
                9 October 2013 14: 00
                Quote: goldfinger
                It’s hard to believe that just a few days earlier the same Foreign Ministry was organizing a feverish flight of its employees (later called “evacuation”) from little Libya, where ordinary people, without hesitation, were already going to smash the “Russian embassy”.
                And the "diplomats" shut up and keep quiet, and they do not remember the Vienna Convention.

                To be honest, I do not understand your sarcasm. A note was sent to the Netherlands in connection with the fact that the country is considered "civilized" and the government is legitimate. There is none of this in Libya, the lumpen, diluted by radical Islamists and various rabble, attacked our diplomatic mission. Those in Libya who think they are ruling the country have honestly admitted that they cannot guarantee protection to our diplomats. Our prudently evacuated staff. Who should I send the note to and tell about the Vienna Convention? Terrorists?
                1. +2
                  9 October 2013 18: 43
                  Quote: Vladimirets
                  To whom to send a note and talk about the Vienna Convention? To the terrorists?

                  Do not try. Finger "gold" is clearly not treated. Ahineah rushing, such are deaf to arguments.
              2. +2
                9 October 2013 16: 01
                Quote: goldfinger
                organized a feverish flight of his employees (later called "evacuation") from little Libya, where the common people, without hesitation, were already going to smash the "Russian embassy".

                do not confuse the gift of God and the ochnitsa, such a country of "Libya" in fact no longer exists, the authorities frankly washed their hands, by the way, in the same situation, the Americans not only wiped themselves away, but also lost their ambassador
              3. +3
                9 October 2013 17: 26
                Quote: goldfinger
                from little Libya, where ordinary people, without hesitation, were already going to smash the "Russian embassy".

                An interesting situation, isn’t it, the country was slaughtered by NATO, and for some reason the Russian embassy is attacking ... the usual ordering, as in principle in Holland too. So in terms of the country's leadership, it is no better than the Libyan ..
                1. +1
                  9 October 2013 19: 12
                  Nah, Chalans just offended for the icebreaker wink

                  I have a suspicion that this is simply an advance action, because there may be a claim to the holland on the icebreaker ...
              4. +2
                9 October 2013 19: 08
                Do you have evidence that Borodin was drunk?

                and more ... and that in the Netherlands there is no longer a rule of law and terrorists are walking around the streets? maybe there the government does not control the capital?

                Why do you compare Libya and Holland?
        4. Rusich51
          0
          10 October 2013 17: 43
          Dons Pedrosa were weak on the back, fell under amers. This is the only way I see this crap.
        5. Hon
          0
          10 October 2013 19: 43
          Send grimpisovtsev for a couple of days to the "press hut", then it turns out for the actions of their police officers will answer
      2. +10
        9 October 2013 10: 20
        Why expel everyone? Enough of those who are suspected of child molestation and propaganda pederasty. There are only half of them.
      3. +27
        9 October 2013 10: 27
        experienced
        Such cases should always trigger our extremely harsh reaction. And more severe than the incident itself. Firstly. their diplomats should get the same thing so that they clearly know that any attack on our diplomats will respond on their necks, and secondly, their citizens on our territory, who often violate the law and public order, must be convinced that it’s very bad when their police touch our diplomats. And the guys from Greenpeace should get to the fullest, as soon as possible .... and the ship after the trial should be destroyed as an instrument of crime or evidence ...:))) ... it's a joke, but you can’t give the ship in any way -from the principle.
        And in any case, it is necessary to raise the universal high. In general, it’s time for Onishchenko to get their holsters — let him look for chemistry in tulips. :)))
        1. +19
          9 October 2013 10: 36
          Greetings Vladimir hi
          Quote: smile
          Such cases should always trigger our extremely harsh reaction.

          With two hands "for" !!! This is a matter of the prestige of the state. I recall that the Americans are sure that to protect their citizen, the government of the country will take any measures, up to bringing the offender of the fleet to the shores of the country, and ours can be killed and insulted with impunity?
          Quote: smile
          their diplomats should get the same thing so that they clearly know that any attack on our diplomats will respond to their necks,

          This is not our method, punishing a gopnik does not have to lower to his level, there are more civilized more effective ways and one of them:
          Quote: smile
          And the guys from Greenpeace should get to the fullest, as soon as possible .... and the vessel after the trial should be destroyed as a tool for committing a crime or evidence.
          1. +1
            9 October 2013 11: 21
            So Greenpeace only has a Dutch ship, and so are 18 citizens? countries
            1. +6
              9 October 2013 11: 52
              is our north really small, everyone should have enough space, ten years, worked together, even if they sit together, without reference to citizenship.
          2. +9
            9 October 2013 12: 19
            experienced
            Well, the method is not ours. I agree. But remember. in Soviet times, with respect to the enemy’s residency, both sides tried not to allow too harsh measures — the tradition was as follows. And the reason is simple - violating the unspoken rule will receive a symmetrical response. There is something in it .... because. I believe that it is here that there should be extremely harsh retaliatory measures - they should not have a sense of impunity, otherwise we will increasingly grind our teeth helplessly after hearing about arrogant antics in relation to our diplomatic workers. After all, this is a police action planned at the highest level. leaving on an ostensibly call, I could not help but establish the identity of those living — they have a computer in every car ... so that, in this case, I am for an extremely tough answer — although I am not a hawk.
            1. gunnerminer
              -6
              9 October 2013 17: 44
              But remember. in Soviet times, with respect to the enemy’s residency, both sides tried not to allow too harsh measures — the tradition was as follows.



              Now is not Soviet times. The authorities of the Netherlands can send the daughter of the Russian Supreme Commander-in-Chief, covering at the same time the business of her local roommate. Here and the whole symmetrical answer. At the same time they threaten to open accounts and real estate for members of the State Duma, Federation Council, senior officials in the Netherlands offshore.
              1. +2
                9 October 2013 19: 14
                do you really think that Putin’s daughter lives in Holland?
                are you out of your mind
                1. gunnerminer
                  -4
                  9 October 2013 19: 26
                  do you really think that Putin’s daughter lives in Holland?
                  are you out of your mind



                  And you? In your own? If she cohabits with a Dutch citizen, where should she live? In the USA or Great Britain?
                  1. +3
                    9 October 2013 19: 35
                    Do you have evidence of this?

                    Putin’s children are under strict guard, nothing is known about them, but ... they constantly say that they study somewhere in other countries, then they live, cohabit ...

                    Do you think Putin is a fool?
                    1. gunnerminer
                      -4
                      9 October 2013 19: 41
                      Do you have evidence of this?

                      Putin’s children are under strict guard, nothing is known about them, but ... they constantly say that they study somewhere in other countries, then they live, cohabit ...

                      Do you think Putin is a fool?



                      And who do you consider him? He is known to me as the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces and the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Under strict security? Are they prisoners and are serving time in strict regime? Why are they like this? Is living a crime abroad?
                      1. +3
                        9 October 2013 19: 48
                        for being children of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of a nuclear power ...
                        they can be kidnapped, killed ...
                        Putin has been assassinated more than once, so why not switch to his children?

                        Once again, do you have evidence, or is the Chukchi writer?
                        1. gunnerminer
                          -3
                          9 October 2013 20: 02
                          for being children of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of a nuclear power ...
                          they can be kidnapped, killed ...
                          Putin has been assassinated more than once, so why not switch to his children?

                          Once again, do you have evidence, or is the Chukchi writer?

                          Who and why will they be abducted? Have you read Belarusian and Soviet old newspapers? Who has encroached on him? Where? Who needs him? The evidence is in Google. Do not read old Soviet newspapers and new poor Russian newspapers.
                        2. 0
                          9 October 2013 20: 39
                          the Darkest himself spoke about this 2 years ago, when the Prime Minister was that for 2 presidential terms he was assassinated 8 times ...
                        3. +4
                          9 October 2013 20: 41
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          Who encroached on him? Where? Who needs him?

                          judging only by this issue, you are not very smart, there will always be those who want to encroach on such people, and this is not even necessarily the special services of "friendly" states
                        4. +1
                          9 October 2013 22: 50
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          Who will abduct them and why?

                          Are you an ideological idealist? Or pretend to be?
                        5. +3
                          9 October 2013 22: 59
                          he is an ideological chicken, he confused the forum with the kitchen, now he will speak out and go to "Gossip Girl" to watch laughing
                        6. +2
                          9 October 2013 23: 02
                          ultra
                          No, he just go .... almost idealist. but much shorter. :))))
                        7. +1
                          9 October 2013 20: 44
                          Danafxnumx
                          Yes, he is just bullshit, whose mind is not able to master anything, except for an article on the Internet, consisting of three lines, revealing all the love secrets of Putin and his daughters and designed for the disabled. Look at his argumentation - an ordinary cheap gossip, a pious believer that Google doesn't lie ... :))) He probably studies history from the books "The Kremlin's Wives" and "Sekas and Politics" that Khakamada has sprinkled ... :)))
                        8. +2
                          9 October 2013 20: 56
                          Yes, I already understood laughing
                          but it’s still funny that there are people who believe in it ...
                        9. gunnerminer
                          -5
                          9 October 2013 22: 09
                          Here is a well-respected Nayhas wrote about the alaska diplomat

                          Judging by the fragmentary description, he and his wife and children were drunk from somewhere, his wife took four cars near the house, and Borodin took the children home, it seems they were very scared and cried, and that drunk either yelled at them, or pushed, in general by our standards, it's okay, a drunk deer with roaring children, in the Netherlands this is unacceptable. The police first talked with him about the accident, and then arrived at the request of the neighbors, it seems the children did not calm down and cried, and Borodin yelled at them, then cursed with the police using profanity (the news announcer incidentally gave examples of his statement in English), the police Seeing this disgrace, she decided to detain him, but Borodin resisted, and therefore he was handcuffed. The fact that he later said that the police beat him and mistreated the children, I don’t believe a bit, this is not a damn Kryzhopol police department, this does not happen there. It’s just that Borodin behaves like an ordinary Russian blue which I have seen enough in the Ministry of Internal Affairs for 8 years, drunk - a hero, a fur coat down, and the next day at the prosecutor’s office he writes how he was absolutely sober and sadistic kicked and kicked in a jail for allegedly beating his wife , which of course does not confirm it, although the outfit itself caused it when he drove it around the apartment with an ax.
                          It’s unfortunate that our diplomats are not much different from an ordinary kitchen fighter ...
                          Well, the Dutch police will undoubtedly make a drag, an international scandal all the same ...
                        10. 0
                          9 October 2013 22: 22
                          1. evidence from the series "one grandmother said", i.e. on the news said ...
                          2. He was not just handcuffed in the street, but entered the diplomat’s house, which is strictly forbidden ...
                          3. What was the hair pulled for? really defended?
                          4. the accident of the wife (if she was), was a day before the arrest ...
                        11. gunnerminer
                          -5
                          9 October 2013 22: 24
                          Why was it dragged by the hair of a child? really defended?




                          Nobody dragged the child by the hair. Borodin came up with a booze to hide behind the children. A typical method of a family rowdy.
                        12. 0
                          9 October 2013 22: 48
                          do you have evidence
                        13. gunnerminer
                          -6
                          9 October 2013 22: 53
                          do you have evidence




                          Not a single policeman will offend a child, especially the Royal Dutch police.
                        14. +2
                          9 October 2013 23: 01
                          Do you really have evidence for this?

                          but I like your calm, what idealism and servility, just a sight for sore eyes laughing
                        15. +6
                          9 October 2013 23: 11
                          gunnerminer
                          According to American data, for American police officers, the norm is to beat and handcuff a student of 8-10 years old right at school. This is normal.
                          Do not bring nonsense, it’s better to visit at least once abroad - now a psychiatrist’s certificate doesn’t require a visa, so they will let you out .... :))) Or they won’t let you out, because you are the unique secret bearer of the whole collection of gossip about Pu’s personal life and his daughters? :)))
                        16. 0
                          10 October 2013 10: 03
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          Not a single policeman will offend a child, especially the Royal Dutch police.

                          No policeman has the right to break into a diplomat’s house
                        17. 0
                          10 October 2013 10: 03
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          Not a single policeman will offend a child, especially the Royal Dutch police.

                          No policeman has the right to break into a diplomat’s house
                        18. 0
                          10 October 2013 11: 31
                          You live in a fairytale on pink clouds :)
                        19. 0
                          10 October 2013 13: 49
                          Not a single policeman will offend a child, especially the Royal Dutch police.


                          oh my God, what a thick and stupid TROLLISCH :(
                        20. +1
                          10 October 2013 10: 01
                          Excuse me, did you see a medical examination card? !!!
                          family relationship is not their personal matter, not mine and certainly not the Dutch police
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                        22. +7
                          9 October 2013 22: 37
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          he and his wife and children were driving drunk from somewhere, his wife took down four cars near the house, and Borodin took the children home, it seems they were very scared and cried, and that drunk either screamed at them, or pushed, in general by our standards nothing scary, drunk deer with roaring children,


                          - Honey, I'm home!
                          - Why so late?
                          - On the way the bear sprained his leg - I had to solder vodka.
                          - Sit down! Let's drink vodka.
                          “Mom, I'll go play with the bear.”
                          ... - Well, just drink vodka first and don’t forget your hat with earflaps, there it’s 155 degrees outside.
                          - And where is our grandfather?
                          - He has been waiting in line for coupons for coupons for a second week.
                          “It's good that he drank vodka before that.” And you don’t sit idle, go drink vodka too.

                          Okay, go take a walk, son, and do not forget to write a report to the KGB in the evening! And on the way home do not forget to buy vodka - it ends.
                          - Darling, something's hot. Please turn off the nuclear reactor.
                          - Now I’ll finish the vodka and turn it off, while you play the balalaika and paint the nesting dolls, otherwise we don’t have enough money for vodka.
                          - Something I got bored, I'll go drink vodka and ride a tank.
                          - Do not forget the Kalashnikov assault rifle and drink vodka for courage
                          Dear and do not forget to call on the mafia, you have not been with them for a long time, drink vodka, sing a Russian song!

                          But, according to some of our citizens, they didn’t ride a tank, because:
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          in the Netherlands this is unacceptable.


                          But our true lover is sure that
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          Borodin yelled at them, then cursed with the police using profanity (the news announcer incidentally gave examples of his statement in English), the police saw this disgrace and decided to detain him, but Borodin resisted, and therefore he was handcuffed.

                          But he does not believe Borodin, because his experience indicates that the Netherlands
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          this damn thing is not the Kryzhopol police department, this does not happen there.

                          I advise those who are in solidarity with the gunnerminer to watch the movie "Open, police!" France, 1984. I suppose the French scriptwriters, having passed the 90s in a time machine, immediately watched the plot in modern Russia laughing
                        23. +4
                          9 October 2013 22: 51
                          it’s really not the Kryzhopol police department, the democratic and liberal police immediately shoot to kill ...
                        24. +6
                          9 October 2013 23: 19
                          Quote: DanaF1
                          it’s really not the Kryzhopol police department, the democratic and liberal police immediately shoot to kill ...

                          the intruder was killed by a warning shot in the stomach
                        25. +1
                          9 October 2013 23: 13
                          nerd.su
                          :)))) I'm wallowing !!! :)))) Gorgeous comment !!!
                        26. +1
                          9 October 2013 23: 46
                          My regards hi But you are also a master!

                          Quote: smile
                          visit at least once abroad - now a psychiatrist’s certificate doesn’t require a visa, so they will let you out .... :))) Or you won’t be allowed out, because you are the unique secret bearer of a complete collection of gossip about the personal life of Pu and his daughters? :)))
                          laughing
                          drinks
                        27. 0
                          9 October 2013 23: 05
                          gunnermine
                          Your dear Nayhas, also picks up all the gossip. like you. But we must pay tribute to him — he is an order of magnitude smarter than you — he brings these gossip into a divine form and promotes them here, and you ....%))))
              2. +5
                9 October 2013 20: 32
                gunnerminer
                Proof that Pu's daughter lives in Holland, on a barrel, please!
                Otherwise, you will be considered an arrogant liar ... what you, in fact, are.
                And about the cohabitation of someone with someone - gossip about personal life among normal men is not accepted to suck. And even more so it’s not customary to suck them out of your finger .. or where do you suck them from there?
                1. gunnerminer
                  -7
                  9 October 2013 21: 01
                  Proof that Pu's daughter lives in Holland, on a barrel, please!
                  Otherwise, you will be considered an arrogant liar ... what you, in fact, are.



                  You contradict yourself. Proofs in Google, forward with a marching step! Who do you consider yourself, with your argumentation? What and how to write I decide for myself.
                  1. +1
                    9 October 2013 21: 53
                    already master quoting or something ...
                    1. gunnerminer
                      -4
                      9 October 2013 22: 08
                      Here is a well respected Nayhas wrote
                      Judging by the fragmentary description, he and his wife and children were drunk from somewhere, his wife took four cars near the house, and Borodin took the children home, it seems they were very scared and cried, and that drunk either yelled at them, or pushed, in general by our standards, it's okay, a drunk deer with roaring children, in the Netherlands this is unacceptable. The police first talked with him about the accident, and then arrived at the request of the neighbors, it seems the children did not calm down and cried, and Borodin yelled at them, then cursed with the police using profanity (the news announcer incidentally gave examples of his statement in English), the police Seeing this disgrace, she decided to detain him, but Borodin resisted, and therefore he was handcuffed. The fact that he later said that the police beat him and mistreated the children, I don’t believe a bit, this is not a damn Kryzhopol police department, this does not happen there. It’s just that Borodin behaves like an ordinary Russian blue which I have seen enough in the Ministry of Internal Affairs for 8 years, drunk - a hero, a fur coat down, and the next day at the prosecutor’s office he writes how he was absolutely sober and sadistic kicked and kicked in a jail for allegedly beating his wife , which of course does not confirm it, although the outfit itself caused it when he drove it around the apartment with an ax.
                      It’s unfortunate that our diplomats are not much different from an ordinary kitchen fighter ...
                      Well, the Dutch police will undoubtedly make a drag, an international scandal all the same ...
                      1. 0
                        10 October 2013 11: 34
                        And for 8 years in the Ministry of Internal Affairs at random did you not see detentions just like that? :)
                    2. +2
                      9 October 2013 22: 58
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      already master quoting or something ...

                      For some, this is too complicated.
                  2. +1
                    9 October 2013 21: 58
                    gunnerminer
                    Would you yourself go ... to google ... you can go there not combatant, but skipping, I do not mind ... :)))
                    I have not seen a single gossip on this subject with at least the appearance of credibility, all the usual crap that only people with a mental disorder can believe in, or those who live gossip about the personal lives of pop stars and politicians .... you know there are such women - chickens ... men, as I understand now, also exist .... only they are not called chickens ... :)))

                    Link to the barrel, comrade gossip, please. :))) And we carefully prepare and smear this reference. Maybe ashamed to spread gossip then ... or be afraid ... :)))
                    1. gunnerminer
                      -7
                      9 October 2013 22: 03
                      Link to the barrel, comrade gossip, please. :))) And we carefully prepare and smear this reference. Maybe ashamed to spread gossip then ... or be afraid ... :)))


                      Proofs in Google, forward militarily! Who do you think you are, with your argument? What and how to write myself. I’m more worried about the Dutch adventures of a Russian drunk with a diplomatic passport or permanent residence for the daughter of the Supreme Command of the RF Armed Forces?
                      1. +1
                        9 October 2013 22: 11
                        Where is your evidence that he is a drunk?
                        our libel is actually an article in the holland, I suppose, too ...

                        By the way, the Dutch media should be responsible for their lies !!! am
                        1. gunnerminer
                          -2
                          9 October 2013 22: 16
                          By the way, the Dutch media should be responsible for their lies !!




                          Now, we ran to answer. From a low start. Look at the exposed photo and Borodin’s appearances in television reports.
                        2. +1
                          9 October 2013 22: 54
                          forgot to ask you bully
                        3. gunnerminer
                          -4
                          9 October 2013 23: 26
                          forgot to ask you




                          You haven’t forgotten? You are asking me questions for an hour in a row. You are worried about what I’m writing about. The drunk diplomat was called by foreign police to order.
                        4. +2
                          9 October 2013 23: 32
                          I'm doing a psychiatric experiment ...
                          and yes, I really care what you say ... this is the purpose of the experiment bully
                        5. gunnerminer
                          -3
                          9 October 2013 23: 35
                          I'm doing a psychiatric experiment ...
                          and yes, I really care what you say ... this is the purpose of the experiment




                          An experiment on yourself? Was you so impressed with alakash in a T-shirt with a Venezuelan godfather?
                        6. +1
                          9 October 2013 23: 49
                          no, an experiment on you, you impress me with your clearness ... I'm waiting for what else you’ll come up with ... go for it!
                        7. +4
                          9 October 2013 23: 45
                          Quote: DanaF1
                          I'm doing a psychiatric experiment ...

                          Shhh keep the experiment clean.
                        8. gunnerminer
                          -3
                          9 October 2013 23: 51
                          Shhh keep the experiment clean.





                          Mr. DanaF1 cannot silently. His emotions overwhelm, he wants with everyone.
                        9. +3
                          9 October 2013 23: 59
                          contact me Madam, slave ...
                        10. gunnerminer
                          -5
                          10 October 2013 00: 03
                          contact me Madam, slave ...




                          What already? Have you finished the experiment with everyone publicly? Are you wet? Have you switched to you? You yourself have become a victim of your experiment. You tried to give advice on the Vienna Convention! Why Madame, not Mr.?
                        11. +1
                          10 October 2013 00: 12
                          I'm actually female ... my nickname is hinting at it ...
                        12. gunnerminer
                          -5
                          10 October 2013 00: 16
                          I'm actually female ... my nickname is hinting at it ...




                          The details of your personal life are not interesting to me. Especially as an experiment you are conducting publicly. Understand yourself. Start with a quantitative analysis of recent events.
                        13. +1
                          10 October 2013 00: 25
                          unlike you, I prefer qualitative analysis tongue
                        14. gunnerminer
                          -3
                          10 October 2013 00: 35
                          unlike you, I prefer qualitative analysis




                          Are you publicly trying to determine your gender? By qualitative analysis? Very extravagant!
                        15. +1
                          10 October 2013 00: 39
                          Reported, my friend?
                          tongue is braided? drinks

                          so you oversleep and everything will pass bully
                        16. +3
                          10 October 2013 01: 04
                          gunnerminer
                          Murat, and you are also a real horseman, I hope you’re not a mountain eagle? - I feel a knack - how cleverly you slipped off the topic and tried to hurt a woman, rassssolivaya about analysis ... although of course. if you are used to discuss gossip about the personal life of celebrities, you are in similar conversations, like a fish in the water ... :)))
                          It’s not disgusting to live like this yourself ... an eagle ...? :)))
                        17. gunnerminer
                          -2
                          10 October 2013 01: 13
                          Murat, and you are also a real horseman, I hope you’re not a mountain eagle? - I feel a knack - how cleverly you slipped off the topic and tried to hurt a woman, rassssolivaya about analysis ... although of course. if you are used to discuss gossip about the personal life of celebrities, you are in similar conversations, like a fish in the water ... :)))
                          It’s not disgusting to live like this yourself ... an eagle ...? :)))


                          Yes, you’re a great original and a connoisseur of the female! It turns out that you can remotely determine the gender of DanaF1! Are you sure you determined it correctly? The Internet is such a thing that a bright blonde can turn out to be a retired major general of aviation. Or a veteran air paratrooper turns into a stripper in reality!
                        18. +3
                          10 October 2013 01: 35
                          gunnerminer
                          Don’t worry, I’m quite well-informed ... maybe if only in comparison with you ... :)))
                          It is strange to hear that in tyrnet not everything is true from the mouth of a person who selects the most base and vile gossip in him ... :)))
                          And about the girl, why would she pretend to be someone here? She did not come here to meet you. And she’s not trying to hide behind a female nickname in order to propagate covert ideas. So, it is better to use your suspiciousness to assess the reliability of the information that you are going to promote.
                        19. +3
                          10 October 2013 02: 41
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          Yes, you are a great original and connoisseur of the female sex! It turns out that you can remotely determine the gender of DanaF1!

                          Take the mouse in your right hand, click on the nickname DanaF1, go to "personal data", read the name. Let me explain that Olga is a female name in Russia. The mouse is such a thing near the keyboard, and not at all an animal hanging in your refrigerator. A keyboard is a device with many buttons that you tap with your dirty fingers. Wash your hands before eating.
                        20. +4
                          10 October 2013 01: 13
                          Quote: smile
                          It’s not disgusting to live like this yourself ... an eagle ...?

                          Greetings smile! Hardly disgusting to him. Peter Parker was bitten by a spider with altered DNA, and he became Spider-Man. Where gunnerminer found shit with altered DNA, I don’t know. But it bit him great. laughing
                        21. +2
                          10 October 2013 01: 28
                          chehywed
                          :)))) Damn, men, yes you need to write down your pearls ... then you gave a nerd higher there, then you ... I have not heard about an aggressive poop ... :))) I read, I choke with laughter ...
                        22. +1
                          10 October 2013 01: 37
                          Do not vykayte..te laughing
                        23. +1
                          10 October 2013 02: 07
                          chehywed
                          To blame. I will be corrected. :))))
                        24. +3
                          10 October 2013 00: 06
                          this is the second phase of the experiment - the patient is in the know bully
                        25. +3
                          9 October 2013 23: 01
                          Quote: gunnerminer
                          Now, we ran to answer. From a low start. Look at the exposed photo and Borodin’s appearances in television reports.

                          Onishchenko will teach them how to love their homeland.
                        26. gunnerminer
                          -4
                          9 October 2013 23: 10
                          Onishchenko will teach them how to love their homeland.




                          The main thing for Mr. Onishchenko is to learn to love his homeland.
                      2. +1
                        9 October 2013 23: 21
                        gunnerminer
                        I’m more interested in how much degradation it is necessary to reach in order to carry such rubbish on the blue eye ... :))) believe me, people like you wander very rarely on the site, and usually don’t last long, well, they don’t understand in the articles half the words, what can you do ... they are more familiar where the gossip r Pugacheva, Dima Bilan, some caramels, who slept with someone, got married, divorced, shared property ...... :)))
                        And you really have negative IQ, right? :))) Please brag, please ... and we’ll give you a plus sign for at least one word of truth ... :)))))
                        1. gunnerminer
                          -4
                          9 October 2013 23: 24
                          I’m more interested in how much degradation it is necessary to reach in order to carry such rubbish on the blue eye ... :))) believe me, people like you wander very rarely on the site, and usually don’t last long, well, they don’t understand in the articles half the words, what can you do ... they are more familiar where the gossip r Pugacheva, Dima Bilan, some caramels, who slept with someone, got married, divorced, shared property ...... :)))


                          However, you are pleased to read my comments and discuss my point of view! You are delighted. Otherwise, you would march past. You are worried about what I'm writing about.
                        2. +3
                          10 October 2013 00: 49
                          gunnerminer
                          Tin, I haven’t seen such conceit here yet ... :))) No sir, I’m very unpleasant to swear with anyone, even with such ... like you. But I really want to shut up the lying fountain - I am very worried that the degradation of the population has slowed down, but it has not stopped, the appearance of such as you confirm. And to cope with this task can only be forcing you to answer questions, leading you to the development of their thoughts ... which was done by my colleagues.
                          To be honest, I hope you are not so classic, just canonical round ... a victim of the Internet. Better you be a provocateur who misjudged the audience ... it's just that stupidity annoys me the most.
                        3. gunnerminer
                          -1
                          10 October 2013 01: 07
                          Tin, I haven’t seen such conceit here yet ... :))) No sir, I’m very unpleasant to swear with anyone, even with such ... like you.



                          Why then read and comment on my comments? It’s unpleasant for you, you’re hoping! You would have decided on your desires, choose some specific line of behavior. Annoyed on a military blog. Nerves?
                        4. +2
                          10 October 2013 01: 44
                          gunnerminer
                          Probably we have not yet encountered, otherwise you would not have stuttered about my nerves - I am usually calm, like an ax, and slightly cheerful. And now, some colleagues, frolicking on your pearls, have ridiculed you very qualitatively, and angrily raised my mood.
                          And I am forced to answer you only because people like you just need to be put in place — otherwise people like you, excuse me, are greyhounds — what can you do, your nature is like that. :)))
                        5. gunnerminer
                          0
                          10 October 2013 18: 37
                          And I am forced to answer you only because people like you just need to be put in place — otherwise people like you, excuse me, are greyhounds — what can you do, your nature is like that. :)))


                          Do not make excuses. You are not a primary school student.
          3. +12
            9 October 2013 15: 33
            Now imagine the opposite: the drunk wife of a Dutch diplomat shattered 4 cars, her no less drunk husband punished his children somewhere in Vykhino with terrible squeals of these children. Our falcons arrived, grandmother Lyuba said that there was terrible violence against children. Our dirty police officers gave this gentleman ribs, brought him to the station to cool (on the way he tested a new club weapon).
            The reaction in the world: Russians completely froze, sanctions are needed.
            Reaction in Russia: A little broke.
            1. +3
              9 October 2013 19: 15
              and it is true...
              just wouldn’t have done so with us ...
            2. gunnerminer
              -4
              9 October 2013 22: 21
              Now imagine the opposite: the drunk wife of a Dutch diplomat shattered 4 cars, her no less drunk husband punished his children somewhere in Vykhino with terrible squeals of these children. Our falcons arrived, grandmother Lyuba said that there was terrible violence against children.



              Fiction! In the Russian Federation, police do not come to such calls. If they leave and find out about the family scandal, they turn around and leave. Another mentality and understanding of the rule of law, protection of children.
              1. +2
                9 October 2013 22: 55
                another understanding of the Vienna Convention?
                1. 0
                  14 October 2013 15: 47
                  Am I missing something, or was it not the Russian ambassador who was beaten in Qatar, or was it not the Russian diplomats who were brazenly killed in Baghdad? Or is it not President Putin promised to find murderers from the ground? Where are the murderers of Russian diplomats found? Where was this miracle convention then?
        2. +11
          9 October 2013 12: 43
          Quote: smile
          Such cases should always trigger our extremely harsh reaction. And more severe than the incident itself.


          Yes, elementary. All the Golndniks participating in the raid on the oil platform platform go under the article piracy for a maximum period, the icebreaker is confiscated in favor of the platform owner. The press runs a company about patronizing piracy from the Dutch side.
          1. 0
            9 October 2013 17: 12
            Geisenberg
            Oh, you have a style! :))) I like. :)))
        3. +5
          9 October 2013 13: 07
          It seems that there will be a cry from this dwarf about the "hand of the bloody gebni", so it is better to let the FSB immediately put its "bloody hand" - they have more materials.
        4. +1
          9 October 2013 17: 34
          Quote: smile
          In general, it’s time for Onishchenko to get their holsters — let him look for chemistry in tulips. :)))

          And there it was in bulk, flowers like plastic, odorless, and everything seemed to mold according to the pattern, our flowers, although smaller, but natural .. I used to take the Golan, now I prefer ours, as it’s more sincere to give them.
          Actually, which country are these and flowers ..
        5. +3
          9 October 2013 17: 48
          There they found a hike in drugs on the ship, so you can just burn along with the weed))
        6. +1
          9 October 2013 18: 42
          smile (3) RU Today, 10:27 _131009 / wed

          Hello Vladimir!

          Glad to hear from you here on the VO site branch Here you are 100% right! good

          Such "diplomatic slaps" to Russia should be returned to the Russian law enforcement agencies directly and in "much larger numbers" with the presence of video cameras, reporters and a prosecutor with an investigator, transported to the police station.

          Although I am a civilian person, without experience and practice in the army and law enforcement agencies, but in this case, I think that the humanity and political correctness on the part of Russia is harmful and dangerous.

          I don’t know the details of Russian legislation, but I’m sure that within its framework “it is possible and necessary” to give a good deal of “must” to foreign diplomats, from “household booze”, “to brothels” with drugs and “gay men”, especially for CORRUPTION of teenagers and children.

          Bye, Michael. hi
          1. 0
            10 October 2013 01: 51
            michajlo
            Good night, Mikhailo!
            I saw your comment and remembered that I did not answer you ... now I will put myself in a corner, and tomorrow I will find my message and answer, okay? :)))
            And with your comment, I agree. There are enough legal levers; there is no need to falsify anything.
        7. +1
          9 October 2013 19: 13
          Onishchenko in the process
      4. +21
        9 October 2013 10: 29
        Ban Holland nafig! Close as a country! Recognize as a hotbed of sodomy at the official level and to outlaw all citizens.
        In short on the count ...
        1. +4
          9 October 2013 10: 47
          Homosexuals finally felt
          1. +16
            9 October 2013 11: 41
            To shoot!
            1. +3
              9 October 2013 11: 48
              Quote: klimpopov
              To shoot!

              Klim hello! Why is Stalin without a pipe?
              1. +3
                9 October 2013 11: 52
                Hi Sanya!
                With a cigarette, well, he smoked cigarettes too. It doesn’t cause a template break to be honest ..
                With the phone you need to look ...
                1. +4
                  9 October 2013 11: 58
                  Quote: klimpopov
                  With a cigarette, well, he smoked cigarettes too. It doesn’t cause a template break to be honest ..

                  The phone is more familiar.
                  1. +1
                    9 October 2013 12: 12
                    Well next time with the phone))
              2. smersh70
                +1
                9 October 2013 13: 06
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Why is Stalin without a pipe?


                Camel liked .... wassat
                1. +4
                  9 October 2013 13: 41
                  Where is Camel !!
                  1. Barracuda148
                    +2
                    9 October 2013 17: 18
                    So, in 85, I found it in my grandfather's nest egg. The box was like new.
            2. Alex 241
              +2
              9 October 2013 18: 15
              ........................................
        2. Corneli
          +1
          9 October 2013 17: 11
          Quote: klimpopov
          Ban Holland nafig! Close as a country! Recognize as a hotbed of sodomy at the official level and to outlaw all citizens.
          In short on the count ...

          Hmm, do you know, incidentally, that the Netherlands is the LARGEST (!) Export partner of the Russian Federation? About 12% of the total Russian export falls on the Netherlands, in money terms it is 77 billion dollars. (for reference, export to ALL CIS countries = 77,5 billion). So, on the one hand, there is where to roam, and on the other hand, it is impossible to "ban", they are the largest trading partner.
          1. +1
            9 October 2013 22: 53
            This is all politics. If there is a desire for power, then everything is possible!
          2. +1
            9 October 2013 23: 00
            Quote: Corneli
            So, on the one hand, there is where to roam, and on the other hand, it is impossible to "ban", they are the largest trading partner.

            If you look at the structure of our trade with the Netherlands, we buy from them what we can buy in another market, and in fact our products are not replaced by anyone, at the moment.
            1. gunnerminer
              -5
              9 October 2013 23: 12
              If you look at the structure of our trade with the Netherlands, we buy from them what we can buy in another market, and in fact our products are not replaced by anyone, at the moment.




              You would have bought it in another market! Your goods are like under Tsar Nikolashka-2, round timber, oil.
      5. +12
        9 October 2013 10: 34
        We think for a long time, we are waiting for an apology, investigations ... The reaction of Russia should have been immediate, adequate, harsh!
        1. -8
          9 October 2013 11: 47
          Quote: Denis
          We think for a long time, we are waiting for an apology, investigations ... The reaction of Russia should have been immediate, adequate, harsh!

          Well, no need to wait for an investigation? We are all such connoisseurs of the Vienna Convention ... Who knows what is written there? In all cases, is a diplomat absolutely inviolable? Does he have the right to physically resist representatives of the authorities? Even in Soviet films he saw that they were detained, taken to a department, and then representatives of the embassy took them. And if a diplomat commits a crime (well, or a violation of traffic rules)? Him, what can not be stopped? Does anyone here on the forum know? Another thing is that they are not jurisdictional. About 10 years ago there was a scandal in New York that all diplomats (and there are many of them, including the UN) did not pay fines for parking violations and put them on the police. And our describing the situation is constantly aggravated - broke into a camouflage (how many times Holland had not seen the police in a camouflage), hit on the head, then it became a brutal beating, etc. I would like to hear a look from the side.
          1. +2
            9 October 2013 13: 41
            Quote: DoctorOleg
            Him, what can not be stopped?

            On the road, this is one thing, and breaking into an apartment and carrying out harsh detention, like a criminal, is a completely different matter!
        2. +1
          9 October 2013 11: 56
          Quote: Denis
          We think for a long time, we are waiting for an apology, investigations ... The reaction of Russia should have been immediate, adequate, harsh!

          Squadron from the Mediterranean Sea to the shores of Holland.
          1. +3
            9 October 2013 13: 09
            Quote: Ustas
            Squadron from the Mediterranean Sea to the shores of Holland.
            Why a squadron? a couple of bulk carriers with RDX to the dam, everyone’s brains will immediately fall into place.
          2. +3
            9 October 2013 13: 15
            What for? A squadron of TU-160, so that on a low-level flight (at supersonic!) It would fly over "Great Holland", believe me, the effect will be impressive!
          3. gunnerminer
            -11
            9 October 2013 13: 46
            Squadron from the Mediterranean Sea to the shores of Holland.





            There, motor resources are left only a month in a drift to lie down to this amusing squadron! They will reach the coast of the Netherlands, then from the same Netherlands ask for tugboats, repairs for ships that have lost their course. How is SKR Savvy, in November 2012?
            1. +1
              10 October 2013 08: 11
              Quote: gunnerminer

              gunnerminer

              Ek, how are you my friend Russia and all Russian is not love.
        3. +1
          9 October 2013 14: 59
          LDPR will hold a protest rally at the Dutch Embassy in Moscow in connection with the incident with Russian diplomat Dmitry Borodin in this country. This statement was made by party leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky.

          “It was an attack on our diplomat, and there was no need to invent family quarrels, alcohol and something else. Pure provocation. Our Moscow organization will hold a picket at the Dutch Embassy, ​​”RIA Novosti quoted him as saying. The LDPR leader promised not to restrain his emotions. “We will not live by the principle: we will be hit on one cheek, and we will substitute the other. We are in the forehead, in the nose! ”Said Zhirinovsky.
      6. +5
        9 October 2013 10: 34
        These are the tricks of the gay mafia, Russia's dissatisfied policy on sexual minorities ...
        1. +1
          9 October 2013 13: 47
          This is very much like the truth. No wonder it was there that the incident occurred, where there are a dime a dozen homosexuals ...
      7. +8
        9 October 2013 10: 39
        AHA, it's time to ask Onishchenko, how are the tulips? For pesticides?
        1. +2
          9 October 2013 11: 34
          Probably there have long been crossed tulips with marijuana ... wink
      8. 0
        9 October 2013 12: 48
        1. Do not flog a fever. Calm and thoughtful ..
        2. Possible reasons:
        -A response to the actions of the Russian Federation against Greenpeace.
        -stressed relations between the EU and Russia before the November Eastern Partnership Summit, where they will try to accept Ukraine and other countries as an associate member
        -the actions of the Russian intelligence to discredit the Netherlands, who announced their desire to sue Russia on the fact of the detention of their ship ..
        - foolishness of the police system of the West with excesses and "drifts" in juvenile justice.
        3. Response actions ....
        -Do not stoop to the whipping of diplomats and threats.
        -raise the issue at the UN
        -Borodin diplomat to file a lawsuit against physical non-pecuniary damage ..
        ........
        1. 0
          10 October 2013 08: 15
          Quote: 222222
          -Do not stoop to the whipping of diplomats and threats

          This is at the state level, however, who can stop any gopnik or bandit in the dark nook from experiencing the nerves of Dutch diplomats.
          "A la gar comme a la gar."
      9. +2
        9 October 2013 15: 34
        The list of 71 exporting companies that supply products to the Russian market may be reduced. The reason is that the veterinary department issues permits “without seeing the products,” said the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor. “The desire to supply is not the basis for inclusion in the list, the basis is the fulfillment of Russian requirements,” ITAR-TASS quoted Dankvert as saying.The result of the inspection of Dutch food factories will be known on October 12.
      10. 0
        10 October 2013 08: 43
        Yesterday (09.10.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX) on REN-TV in the nightly news there was a message that the Netherlands did apologize for this incident, but after Onishchenko suggested checking their dairy products and tulips for compliance with our sanitary standards. Although, it may be a "duck" ...
      11. stroporez
        +1
        12 October 2013 22: 48
        it is better to show them the "show masks", with heavy army boots in the lead role ........... survived ----- European homosexuals of the Russian diplomat "shvoryat" .........
    2. +12
      9 October 2013 10: 13
      And the Netherlands we have the largest exporter of 14% ..... Reminds you of the return of the Cold War only with complete lack of respect for Russia (try to ambush the USSR ambassador) you need a tough answer otherwise it will take up practice.
      Ps And in Libya not long ago attacked .... coincidence?
      1. 0
        9 October 2013 11: 26
        The Netherlands we have the largest exporter of 14%.
        Ours also open there trading offices. They in their Netherlands set a low income tax rate, organized almost offshore companies.
    3. +14
      9 October 2013 10: 14
      that's what happens when they start to offend gays)) Dutch policemen thus expressed their "angry dissatisfaction with Russia's position on LGBT issues.

      remembered the film and the phrase :)) Brothers, the cockerel rebelled !! wassat
      1. +8
        9 October 2013 10: 33
        Pi .... sir, what to take from them ...
    4. +3
      9 October 2013 10: 18
      The Netherlands is a small country. Send a little special forces undercover. Calculate police freaks. Take out of town. Smell is not childish. Plus pressure on official channels. This cannot be left unpunished!
      By the way, the local ambassadors (the Netherlands in Moscow) would also be tickled. If one country sends ambassadors to another, then, as a rule, adequate measures are followed. If our ambassadors are beaten, then it is logical to assume that ...
      1. +6
        9 October 2013 10: 23
        Quote: Stiletto
        By the way, the local ambassadors (the Netherlands in Moscow) would also be tickled.

        I am sure that they can find in the khaz and soft drugs, and pornography and much more interesting things. That would fry the snails in a pan ...
      2. +14
        9 October 2013 10: 30
        It was necessary to react even when our ambassador in Qatar,
        how do you put it, we lost it, but we swallowed it ... Thus, a precedent was created - if such a "mighty power" as Qatar is possible, then why shouldn't others? It is necessary to protect your citizens and not only diplomats always and everywhere, and this does not always happen, and you should not be guided by ephemeral geopolitical considerations ... If you do not respect yourself, you should not expect respect from others ...
        1. xan
          0
          10 October 2013 01: 36
          Quote: ranger
          It was necessary to react even when our ambassador in Qatar,
          how do you put it, we lost it, but we swallowed it ... Thus, a precedent was created - if such a "mighty power" as Qatar is possible, then why shouldn't others?

          it is a provocation, and if we do not know about the answer, this does not mean that it was not. These things are answered coldly and prudently. Qatar is now receiving in Syria, and ours have harnessed for Syria as an adult.
          1. 0
            10 October 2013 13: 41
            If the country was insulted publicly, then the answer should be public and such that not only Qatar but others would no longer want to repeat something like that ... Otherwise, it is nothing like a cookie in your pocket. Here and the Netherlands tried us weakly while we were going to take revenge on Qatar ... -
      3. +4
        9 October 2013 10: 38
        The gut is thin in our power, what special forces are you talking about? A note of discontent, well, a maximum of the ambassador will be sent for a month ..... this is not the USSR for you. It’s bad that even diplomats do not want to protect the same face of the country.
      4. helg717
        +1
        9 October 2013 12: 21
        And in the USSR they would have done so. And there have been cases ....
    5. +12
      9 October 2013 10: 19
      More than sure that this egregious case, revenge, from the Netherlands in response to the detention of the Greenpeace ship from Russia.

      1. +1
        10 October 2013 02: 12
        Stunned, Russians are coming angry wassatwatch on YouTube whose video this is and you’ll understand everything
        1. Alex 241
          0
          10 October 2013 02: 20
          Hi Lesh ................................
        2. MG42
          0
          10 October 2013 02: 20
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Stunned, the Russians go see on YouTube and you’ll understand everything

          And why are you repeating ?, I laid out the same thing in this thread earlier just on the 2nd page at the top ..
          Borodin, apparently, a patriot of the Motherland, is obviously not pleasing to the local Dutch Tolerasts, and even more so left as the denunciation of a neighbor who heard a child’s cry.
          1. 0
            10 October 2013 02: 36
            Hi Sasha, I don’t like rap, but I remember that game, then the whole city was on my ears good MG42 , I haven’t reached the second page yet, well, let them delete who should be, if so.
            1. MG42
              +3
              10 October 2013 02: 40
              Yes, let it hang ... we will help Borodin to promote the video, he only has one on the tube when I found it there was only 3 viewer, let's see how much tomorrow will be ..
              That is, those who need a rating badly need such tactics to post from the bottom or throw a picture up, you and I do not really need it .. drinks
              1. +2
                10 October 2013 02: 50
                Quote: MG42
                we will help Borodin
                I’m only FOR, and the Dutch often check their buzzes more than once a month, but once a week. And they will be happy)))
    6. +9
      9 October 2013 10: 23
      I think soon we will find out what Putin will do in response to the beating of the ambassador, knowing his previous actions, I think it will be something unexpected and very effective action. He certainly will not be inactive, but he can remain silent.
      1. +7
        9 October 2013 11: 09
        Quote: Canep
        I think soon we will find out what Putin will do in response to the beating of the ambassador, knowing his previous actions, I think it will be something unexpected and very effective action. He certainly will not be inactive, but he can remain silent.

        Previous deeds? In Qatar, the ambassador was stumbled at the airport, they almost selected the diplomatic post. And what was the deed? I’m giving birth and that's all.
        As the incident in Holland shows, international conventions do not work and Russia has zero credibility in the international arena. The Dutch respond to harsh statements by our Foreign Ministry with outright mockery. It’s time to start speaking with such presumptuous lackeys in a non-diplomatic language, no matter who they hide behind. Otherwise, Russia will simply wipe their feet, which is now happening.
        1. xan
          0
          10 October 2013 01: 46
          Quote: Grenader
          As the incident in Holland shows, international conventions do not work and Russia has zero credibility in the international arena. The Dutch respond to harsh statements by our Foreign Ministry with outright mockery. It’s time to start speaking with such presumptuous lackeys in a non-diplomatic language, no matter who they hide behind. Otherwise, Russia will simply wipe their feet, which is now happening.

          Stop hysteria.
          I propose to approach this from an economic point of view. We took the icebreaker from them - they took the adviser to the station, we will take the trawler from them - they’ll still get something to do against a diplomat. 10-15 drives to the site - and our fleet will catch up.
    7. +8
      9 October 2013 10: 23
      Russia is challenged! I hope the answer will be tough and not only in words!
    8. optimist
      +1
      9 October 2013 10: 23
      Apparently, not everything is normal in Russia, if it is not afraid to wash even 3,14 times. Although, if we let the former "brothers" (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan) wipe our feet about ourselves, forgive them their debts and kiss them in ... the bottom of their Gaster, then this is probably what we need ...
      1. +4
        9 October 2013 10: 32
        Quote: optimist
        Apparently, not everything is normal in Russia, if not even 3,14 doras are not afraid of it.

        "ch.myrit" - this is when you have not received a good response, which for a long time discourages such actions. I am more than sure that the very same Dutch niderasts will end up being screwed up.
        1. optimist
          +2
          9 October 2013 11: 08
          Quote: Flood
          I’m more than sure that those Dutch niderasts will end up being stained.

          Something persistently tells me that there will be no "response" ... Maybe, of course, I have a bad memory, but over the past 25 years of "developed capitalism" in Russia, I don't remember such cases.
          1. 0
            9 October 2013 11: 21
            Quote: optimist
            Something persistently tells me that there will be no "response"

            optimist, look to the future more optimistic)
            1. optimist
              0
              9 October 2013 13: 03
              Quote: Flood
              optimist, look to the future more optimistic)

              Believe me, I try very hard! But so far it’s not working .... There are no good reasons ...
    9. +1
      9 October 2013 10: 24
      european homosexuals are overwhelmed at the end. I hope Lavrov will come up with something like that, where everyone will be enchanted
    10. +9
      9 October 2013 10: 26
      "Echo of Moscow" indicates that reports appeared in the Dutch press about the "drunk state" of Dmitry Borodin.


      Well, damn it, of course, on the echo matzos are always ready to yap and pick up the very-most versions ..
      1. helg717
        0
        9 October 2013 12: 23
        and yesterday we just discussed why we need the CSTO tongue post comments bully
    11. +6
      9 October 2013 10: 31
      It's unpleasant if it turns out that drunkenness and an accident took place. But, all the same, nobody canceled diplomatic immunity. And why were the children detained? Indeed, "cockerels".
      1. +4
        9 October 2013 10: 59
        Quote: fzr1000
        It is unpleasant if it turns out that intoxication and an accident took place. But, nevertheless, no one has canceled diplomatic immunity.

        A few years ago, our UN employee drunkenly shot down a man in New York. And then the American police just called the embassy to be taken away from the scene and that’s all.
        I do not condone a drunken diplomat, but even in this case there are certain rules. But pi ... ram law, not written.
    12. +3
      9 October 2013 10: 31
      Well, everything can’t be cooled. To catch up with the SOBR at their embassy and arrange a search for legal marijuana, which they would remember.
    13. ran nearby
      +2
      9 October 2013 10: 33
      And why does the Russian Federation linger? An ultimatum should be issued to these drug addicts - or three days later, the guilty on their knees will crawl to apologize to the ambassador, or all the staff will be evacuated, the drug addicts will be detained in the Russian Federation - loaded by riot police into a dump truck and delivered in this form to the nearest border, for example, with Estonia. They are unloaded there - they just get enough sleep from the body. Well, their fag icebreaker is indicative of cutting into scrap :)
      something like this :)
      1. consul
        +3
        9 October 2013 11: 34
        Quote: next to run
        their pidorskiy icebreaker is indicative of cutting into scrap


        no laughing , icebreaker to equip and enter into the fleet as a ship to combat greenpeace angry
        1. +1
          9 October 2013 23: 15
          this icebreaker is a hundred years old at lunch ... it's rubbish ...

          flood a thread somewhere in territorial waters and wh ...
    14. +6
      9 October 2013 10: 39
      Europe, like a gang of petty punks who have obscured a passing peasant and are now watching what he will do.
      1. +1
        9 October 2013 23: 16
        And the funniest thing is that now they will get a lyuley and the questions will begin, "What about us?"
        1. gunnerminer
          -1
          9 October 2013 23: 19
          And the funniest thing is that now they will get a lyuley and the questions will begin, "What about us?"



          And the funny thing is, everyone will forget about this Borodino brawl in five days.
          1. +1
            9 October 2013 23: 34
            and only you will bear the rational, good, eternal laughing
    15. Janis S.U.
      +10
      9 October 2013 10: 42
      The dominant, it seems to me, essence and salt of this topic - in the EU, the police are endowed with greater powers than in the Russian Federation. He served in the police himself - I know. First of all, as a rule, a policeman is not obliged to provide his documents to a suspect who has been stopped or detained. Moreover, the traffic police, they don’t have anything like that in the Russian Federation - introduce themselves, show their ID, indicate the reason for the stop, and be polite, courteous and patiently wait (judging by YouTube, this is such a national tradition - make fun of the cops) when the driver deigns to show documents on the car and the right. Disobedience in any (!) Form - immediate arrest with subsequent measures. I think that in Russia it has long been necessary to take this into service. Nevertheless, the Ministry of Internal Affairs cannot achieve law and order through anarchy, permissiveness and softness of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. But. But! The Hague police certainly crossed all permissible limits and Russia should take retaliatory actions and it would be desirable if they were just a few times more tangible for the Netherlands. This is the EU, which boasts of being democratic, respecting laws and tolerance, and if so, then demand should be higher from it. In no case should you miss this sonorous slap in the face. It is a fact.
      1. +5
        9 October 2013 10: 45
        Putin said: whoever offends us will not live for three days.
        Vladimir Vladimirovich, they offended us!
        And who the hell ?! Some Piderlands ...
        1. +3
          9 October 2013 11: 02
          Quote: Stiletto
          Vladimir Vladimirovich, they offended us!

          Stiletto, you offer the Kura training ground, move west ... smile
          1. +1
            9 October 2013 11: 21
            Yeah, and even the ice drift Greenpeace shit stuff and back to the owners send laughing
            1. 0
              9 October 2013 13: 29
              Quote: Stiletto
              Yeah, and even the ice drift Greenpeace shit stuff and back to the owners send

              won Zhirik promised all the windows in the embassy of the Netherlands to split. apparently to freeze wassat
            2. sq
              +1
              9 October 2013 15: 41
              Quote: Stiletto
              shit stuff

              the waste of the crap they sell to us, and it’s better to take your own, in the sense of organic fertilizers, to the fields, more benefits
              1. 0
                9 October 2013 23: 19
                you are wrong, organic fertilizers are the basis of explosives, you just need to add and return something to the owners ...
      2. +1
        9 October 2013 11: 08
        Totally agree with you.
      3. +1
        9 October 2013 11: 56
        As soon as the level of development of our show-offs reaches the level of development of the average person in Russia, you should do it right away, as you say. But while at least one bydloment works there, excuse them and this is enough to scoff at people.
      4. Hel
        +3
        9 October 2013 15: 52
        Our policemen are not allowed such powers, they are fucked up by the existing powers, and if they completely expand the coasts they will lose.
    16. +3
      9 October 2013 10: 55
      The answer should be such that there all the speech power for a week at least lost. Apologies - of course, but they should not completely exclude the most decisive practical steps. Honestly, I don’t know what steps, but I’m waiting for something hard.
    17. helix
      -10
      9 October 2013 10: 57
      And what really was there? Why did Borodin start pushing with a policeman in the doorway? Or did the neighbors have a reason to call the police? Especially considering their juvenile justice. And if the truth is about a Saturday accident, 4 damaged cars and a drunken wife with resistance honey. survey. And then the clarification of relations in the family (maybe on this occasion), as a result of noise and a call from one of the neighbors of the police. They (the Dutch and other different ..) have a different mentality: someone is violating something - inform the police. Hence, they have both order and respect for the law.
      Imagine the situation: Uniformed police officers come on call, and they start to resist (and probably rude, I feel impunity) drunk (possibly) the owner. On his forehead it is not written that he is a diplomat.
      Of course, the Dutch had to act in accordance with existing international agreements, i.e. contact our embassy so that the embassies themselves deal with their (possibly) rowdy. And now the Dutch must apologize for such a violation of international law.
      But ours may have a "stigma in the gun".
      And we are just talking about the "cold war".
      What about what, and lousy about the bath.
      1. +7
        9 October 2013 11: 19
        maybe a cow, or maybe it’s a janitor ..., I don’t quote, our newspapers are of a certain orientation, so you don’t fuss from the Dutch point of view, not so long ago bog Davlatov was pressed by the police in the police, and then he suddenly committed suicide, although earlier he somehow had not been going to the next world. If the policemen are punctured, violating the Vienna Convention, there is "maybe ...", it is not spelled out, under the knee under the ass and report back, otherwise the government covers up the lawlessness.
      2. +2
        9 October 2013 15: 50
        hi In your opinion, the police did not know where they were going, to whom, all the more they did not have data on the accident participant, if there was such a thing, in general, probably so, "They brought brawlers to the station, looking, diplomats" A story about a fool, well, they don't live in the taiga. And why take the children, they also made a rowdy drunkenness? Perhaps it was all the way it is interpreted, but where is the call of the representative of the dip. mission, to the site or to the site? And finally, an attack on a diplomat, a "pretext for war" as a maximum, at least all kinds of sanctions, what a diplomat he was, except for odious cases.
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    19. +4
      9 October 2013 10: 59
      If the policeman does not introduce himself, then how do you know that this is a cop. Maybe the brothers came to press and we need to shoot back.
    20. +9
      9 October 2013 11: 02
      If the Dutch arranged it, because of Greenpeace, then they are idiot in the cube. Even if there is something there (we drank a little, again, ours knows perfectly well what country he lives in, and knows the rules), this is not a reason for a forceful seizure. Again, the inviolability of embassy workers (convention). Then they are idiot in a cube. At the expense of friendship with neighbors, I do not believe, they are all snitches there, from the cradle. The fact that police arbitrariness is growing throughout the "civilized" world is alarming. I generally keep quiet about the United States, they shoot for any reason. And mobile phones, by amendment, were equated to weapons?!?!? That would not remove their arbitrariness.
      I remember, during the Soviet era, in one country in the Middle East, they captured our embassies. After some time, the leader of the organization, began to bring the heads of his assistants. Our people were immediately taken to the outskirts of the city and shown how to quickly get to the embassy. That's it.
      And here, the country of piderasts, drug addicts (these are tales that they themselves don’t use, that they’re only tourists. And why then the lines in the mornings to the parks where they give out free doses? Who are these people, tourists? Our answer to their deeds should be tough.
      1. 0
        9 October 2013 13: 37
        Quote: Averias
        If the Dutch arranged it, because of Greenpeace, then they are idiot in the cube. Even if there is something there (we drank a little, again, ours knows perfectly well what country he lives in, and knows the rules), this is not a reason for a forceful seizure. Again, the inviolability of embassy workers (convention). Then they are idiot in a cube. At the expense of friendship with neighbors, I do not believe, they are all snitches there, from the cradle. The fact that police arbitrariness is growing throughout the "civilized" world is alarming. I generally keep quiet about the United States, they shoot for any reason. And mobile phones, by amendment, were equated to weapons?!?!? That would not remove their arbitrariness.
        I remember, during the Soviet era, in one country in the Middle East, they captured our embassies. After some time, the leader of the organization, began to bring the heads of his assistants. Our people were immediately taken to the outskirts of the city and shown how to quickly get to the embassy. That's it.
        And here, the country of piderasts, drug addicts (these are tales that they themselves don’t use, that they’re only tourists. And why then the lines in the mornings to the parks where they give out free doses? Who are these people, tourists? Our answer to their deeds should be tough.

        Maybe you were in Holland, I don’t know. I was. And my question is, if these drug addicts were able to equip their country in this way, then what is stopping us? Or do drugs contribute to hard work and order?
        1. +5
          9 October 2013 13: 54
          Their country was built up a very long time ago, and my great-grandfathers still.
          They were cool peasants! Andeans and blacks drank blood, robbed nobly. smile
          Now it's time for sunset ... crying
          Soon, there will be Asia-s.
          Muslim will be with Wahhabi inclinations.
          The beginning, you know, the end.
        2. +4
          9 October 2013 15: 56
          It was, therefore, I say. I saw this country from the inside out. Cleanliness and gloss, this is ostentatious. But in fact, everything is very far from the heavenly halls. Have you seen the drug addicts? Not? And I saw, believe me a lot, a lot. If you were there, then the police should have warned you where you can in the evening and where not. Have you traveled to small communities? Not? And I went, orders there are such that the Mormons rest. And you tell me about their splendor? Do not make me laugh.
    21. +2
      9 October 2013 11: 03
      This is apparently an act of sado-maso in Galland waiting for a very strict measures. I hope to find at their fifth point in the form of a Russian boot.
    22. SolomonSS
      +1
      9 October 2013 11: 06
      The ambassador was beaten, and what did the authorities do - "will we wait for an investigation and an apology"? This is somehow not serious! I think diplomats should live in the territory protected by the Russian security forces, I any police, whether it be the Netherlands, whether it be Germany or America, no matter which country, had no right to freely enter this territory, only on orders.
    23. 0
      9 October 2013 11: 06
      "The Dutch, pitching with joints of all kinds, everyone thought:" Whose will it take? ... "
      S. Trofimov
      Check us, probe.
    24. +6
      9 October 2013 11: 16
      Good day to all!

      Yes, the story is not pleasant and very humiliating for Russia. If it is left without consequences, it will mean that, under any pretext or without it, tomorrow in any country past Russia, Russians, and not just diplomats, may suffer.

      Moreover, diplomats really keep international treaties, and physical attacks on them can become a commonplace fact of "international relations", although it would be very difficult to call them that after this.

      And no one, neither the diplomat, nor his family members, if he lives past the embassy territory, can go or be everywhere with the military guard from the embassy, ​​one or two members of the embassy to have witnesses or help (and even when visiting the toilet).

      In any case, the sooner this incident is completed and only with an apology from the Dutch side to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the more chances are that this provocation will not have consequences for relations not only between Russia and the Netherlands, but also between Russia and the TS-West .

      Although it is possible that the purpose of the attack, beating and being in the police station of a diplomat and his children was precisely a blatant and vile provocation and a desire to humiliate Russia at all costs.
      Because the diplomat represents his country and attacking him, the domestic authorities are attacking the country represented by this diplomat.

      Well, the rising authority of Russia in the world, many in the West do not like, especially now, when the "comrade Boria is no longer conducting" by another’s military band ...

      I personally do not exclude that in the course of the next 2-3 weeks in other Western countries, Russian diplomats and members of their families will again “rake in a drunken state or interfere with their“ secret neighbors ”!" After all, it is still customary for the "friendly West" to try to "command" GREAT Russia in the old way.
    25. +3
      9 October 2013 11: 20
      If the country is respected and, as a result, they are afraid, then their diplomats are not beaten, but on the other hand, the Vienna Convention is violated and, therefore, they take away all the grass from the diplomats of the Netherlands and fill their faces accusing them of propaganda of pedophilia, since they even have such a party in the country.
      1. xan
        0
        10 October 2013 01: 54
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        the Vienna Convention has been violated, and therefore, to take away all the grass from the diplomats of the Netherlands and fill their faces, accusing them of pedophilia propaganda, it’s good that they even have such a party in the country.

        Personally, I am in favor with both hands, such a creative person would be in international relations.
        But you don't need to study at MGIMO for this. The refined Lavrovs will invent some bullshit, and the Dutch won't like it - I'm 100% sure. They will not leave unanswered for sure. Timmermans, in anticipation, must have smoked the entire stock of "orange express trains" with homies - here his mug is definitely suspicious.
        1. 0
          10 October 2013 02: 07
          Here, yesterday’s news of the regional television company about the investigation into Arctic Sunrise

          Investigators and forensic experts, with the involvement of narrow-profile specialists, study documents, items and equipment seized during the inspection of the Arctic Sunrise vessel.

          It was established that part of the seized equipment has a dual purpose and could be used not only for environmental purposes. This will be checked in the framework of the relevant judicial examinations, which the investigation plans to appoint in the near future.

          In addition, narcotic substances (presumably poppy straw and morphine) were seized during the inspection of the vessel. The origin of these substances and their purpose is also established.

          The investigation determines the circle of people who deliberately rammed the border boats, preventing the border guards from fulfilling their official duties. Thus, by their actions the accused encroached on the life and health of the authorities.

          Taking into account the data obtained during the investigation of the criminal case, the charge already brought against everyone is supposed to be adjusted.

          At the same time, it is obvious to the investigation that a number of defendants will be charged with other serious crimes, the Russian Investigative Committee said in a statement.

          http://www.tv21.ru/news/2013/10/09/?newsid=61968
    26. Jogan-xnumx
      +4
      9 October 2013 11: 21
      Rebuke! The most cruel !!! angry Breaking up ALL relationships! Everyone with Dutch passports should be declared persona non grata in Russia and thrown out of here to "Benin's mother"! To demand these policemen here and to the polar bears for re-education, for 10 years. And we will not lose anything from this. stop I, too, the European power - a louse on the crest ... These multi-colored scumbags still yapping that we are barbarians. Pot calls the kettle black... am
    27. +1
      9 October 2013 11: 26
      .
      Cool T-shirt by Borodin in the photo! good
      .
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    29. +2
      9 October 2013 11: 27
      Are you fucked up? If you do not apologize and do not pay the damage, you must act in the same way. Let them know who they are dealing with.
      1. +3
        9 October 2013 11: 43
        Are you fucked up? If you do not apologize and do not pay the damage, you must act in the same way. Let them know who they are dealing with.

        With fools? This is exactly what they want to achieve with their provocation. The answer should be tough, accurate, asymmetric, and completely in the legal field so that no liberalist rummages around. Putin garazd on such kind of fiction.
        For example, arrange problems with visas for a couple of dozen employees of Dutch banks and oil companies operating in Russia. Or Onishchenko will declare that they do not correspond ... That does not correspond.
        1. +1
          9 October 2013 23: 26
          Onishchenko has already announced
          1. xan
            0
            10 October 2013 01: 58
            Quote: DanaF1
            Onishchenko has already announced

            Lavrov must already pay Onishchenko.
            1. 0
              10 October 2013 13: 06
              they have bonuses in different departments laughing
    30. 0
      9 October 2013 11: 30
      Yes, to catch a couple of their diplomats in MOSCOW - to break their noses, jaws and kick !!! and then also with a smile to say that we do not see anything illegal in the actions of them who committed them and we will understand (for a long, long and carefullyoooo) !!!
      1. +1
        9 October 2013 11: 45
        to catch a couple of their diplomats in MOSCOW - to break their noses, jaws and kick !!

        This is exactly what the Dutch are fighting with their provocation. Do you work for these freaks, inciting what the Dutch want from us?
      2. xan
        +1
        10 October 2013 02: 05
        Quote: datur
        Yes, to catch a couple of their diplomats in MOSCOW - to break their noses, jaws and kick !!! and then also with a smile to say that we do not see anything illegal in the actions of them who committed them and we will understand (for a long, long and carefullyoooo) !!!

        This is not our method. We need them for the sacred, for the moshna - put it on the counter. So that all the Dutch would be shitty from their show off.
        Onishchenko is already fussing, it turns out that he found garbage in their milk for a long time before the story with the diplomat - a valuable worker.
    31. ReifA
      +4
      9 October 2013 11: 32
      I think Omon should visit the diplomats of the Netherlands to check, according to neighbors, the possibility of the death of terrorists, given diplomats. Press them during arrest, show resistance to arrest, put them in a detention center for a couple of days. Then say that the info from the OSB (one grandmother said) was not confirmed and not an excuse.
      1. -2
        9 October 2013 11: 47
        I think OMON should visit the diplomats of the Netherlands

        This is exactly what the Dutch are fighting with their provocation. Do you work for these freaks, pushing to commit what they want from us?
        The answer should be tough, accurate, asymmetric, and completely in the legal field so that no liberalist rummages around. Putin garazd on such kind of fiction.
    32. +5
      9 October 2013 11: 42
      It is necessary to hit that under the guise of the Dutch embassy there is a drug trafficker. wink
      1. helg717
        +3
        9 October 2013 12: 27
        here it will be hilarious if REALLY find a couple of bags of something picky Yes
    33. +2
      9 October 2013 11: 44
      Enough to cheat yourself already. Do not tell the spetsnaz and the deportation of the Dutch - nothing will happen ... Russia, as usual, puffs and dries ... The first time, or what?
      By the way, about "ours" abroad (and diplomats as well) - a natural folded b ... for money. "I'll buy everyone, uroy everyone, fire everyone ..."
      On our border, with border guards, these Russian diplomats behave worse than drunk local inhabitants.
      Incidentally, the Western diplomats I have seen do not behave in such a way. Those who are trying to drive in a car in the general queue have to look for them in the stream of cars and ask them to drive forward. smile Only the Baltic diplomatic workers who are bloated from importance differ - like ours, the same grip ...
    34. +3
      9 October 2013 11: 47
      I propose to assemble some gay brigade and drop an assault on their embassy, ​​and let them say something, everyone is tolerant ...
    35. +8
      9 October 2013 11: 56
      Quote: goldfinger

      From Minsk. You, Sergey, are most likely right. How does the so-called you know the Russian elite well. Borodin is clearly not from the Svetly Put kolkhoz. Major.
      It is necessary to read not only Leontiev.
      This is how the Dutch press covers the incident with diplomat Borodin, an employee of the Russian embassy in the Netherlands.


      Briefly for.
      Firstly. Irrespective of whether the diplomat is drunk or not, they cannot handle him like that. They must notify the ambassador, and only then act. So it’s clear. Moon from Minsk?

      Secondly. IMMEDIATELY at one time, charges arose on 3 points:
      drunk wife destroyed the entire Holland fleet
      diplomat mistreats children
      drunk diplomat brawls so that the neighbors are afraid

      Do I need to explain which "neighbors" working in which Dutch organizations "complained" to the police?

      Dear, do not you think that this is too much? Everything is the same as always - a lie designed for a stupid, not thinking philistine from the Netherlands, the United States or Minsk. Drunk Russians? So this is their normal state, we read in the newspapers. Believe it! Russian officials do what they want? So this is normal, we read in the newspapers. Yes, and Latin with bulk tell us about it. Believe it! Just as they didn’t find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, they won’t find anything here either - neither drunkenness nor child abuse.

      For the especially gifted, who believe in the impunity of Russian diplomats - well, bring us a dozen or two such cases over the past 5-6 years. You can not? Why then do you believe in fairy tales?
    36. +15
      9 October 2013 11: 57
      Well, that's enough, enough, disgusting, let's go "protect" the poor children from this terrible Russian diplomat, we are the "police", we are the "defenders".. wassat
      1. ed65b
        +3
        9 October 2013 12: 26
        Quote: anfreezer
        Well, that's enough, enough, disgusting, let's go "protect" the poor children from this terrible Russian diplomat, we are the "police", we are the "defenders".. wassat

        Do not propagate homosexuals. Break the law. laughing
      2. +1
        9 October 2013 22: 16
        fuuuuuuuuuuuu, almost sick, remove this vomit !!!!!!!!!!!
        if they are all there ..... it’s even scary to imagine.
    37. +2
      9 October 2013 11: 58
      Russia should be represented by decent, not drunkards. Someday it will be so.
    38. +3
      9 October 2013 12: 00
      Holland - this is where the stoned pid ... are they allowed? So recall the ambassadors and theirs too. But Onishchenko will find something harmful in the products of Univeriver or Campina and they will look for other markets from the Netherlands.
    39. ed65b
      +3
      9 October 2013 12: 00
      Or maybe just catch and get rid of the ambassador of Holland? and toss the geryk into his pocket?
      1. +2
        9 October 2013 12: 13
        This is ours!
      2. +3
        9 October 2013 12: 15
        So what? For gerych he will only say thanks. But dying off is yes, it is a thought. Zhirinovsky and comrades are about to do just that in the near future. Break all the windows in their embassy ... for starters.
      3. +2
        9 October 2013 12: 41
        it is necessary to transfer the Dutch embassy to Roizman, let him heal!
      4. xan
        0
        10 October 2013 02: 08
        Quote: ed65b
        and toss the geryk into his pocket?

        so he will be glad until blue in the blue
        it's like putting money in your pocket
    40. +4
      9 October 2013 12: 00
      Most likely it was a deliberate and well-calculated provocation. Europeans are very meticulous in such matters and the CIA probably stands behind it. After Syria, the United States wants to take revenge and an attack on a diplomat is a test ball to predict the actions of Russian diplomats. Therefore, the answer must be very tough, so that it would be disgraceful for others otherwise the outrage will begin.
      1. Mature naturalist
        0
        9 October 2013 19: 30
        Quote: scientist
        Most likely it was a deliberate and well-calculated provocation

        Don't overcomplicate. The diplomat and his wife drank (judging by the swelling in the photo, there is such a sin). Houses are screaming because of the cars broken the day before. A neighbor knocked on the police. The police must have started well. The dodgy diplomat crawled into the bottle. So they attached it. As for who tore out the lock of the girl's hair, that's a question.

        I talked with the Dutch police - extremely correct.
        1. gunnerminer
          -3
          9 October 2013 19: 44
          Don't overcomplicate. The diplomat and his wife drank (judging by the swelling in the photo, there is such a sin). Houses are screaming because of the cars broken the day before. A neighbor knocked on the police. The police must have started well. The dodgy diplomat crawled into the bottle. So they attached it. As for who tore out the lock of the girl's hair, that's a question.

          I talked with the Dutch police - extremely correct.


          Weighed and accurate! The Dutch policemen are extremely correct. Drunk Borodin hit and pushed the policemen. They answered him adequately, hobbled according to the instructions. Policemen cannot be beaten in any country.
          1. 0
            14 October 2013 13: 35
            Wow ... the Russian diplomat is a priori a drunkard, but the Dutch police are extremely correct. Hmm ... how extreme is that? Is it because they didn’t kill him? If they were killed, would they not be extremely correct?

            I think you do not need to beat them in any case (police officers). For their ... extremely correct deed, the whole country will be punished. And my prediction will come true! Mark my words!
    41. +6
      9 October 2013 12: 03
      Absolutely West has already been beaten by diplomats, which in general, even in ancient history, was unthinkable. What else can we talk about the West ?! They are ruled by the false and p. Odonki, who were always colonialists and robbed the whole other world. And now, from the bbl, the humorous nature is manifested in all its glory.
      In Odnoklassniki, they are promoting the topic that someone there did not embezzle the lost 20 euros, but posted an announcement about the find ... I am sure that in the West, in the USA and anywhere there may be many good people, but such things rule there. .d. women who created their titles and capital hundreds of years ago on the rivers of blood and robbed people. Of course, why such 20 euros ?!
      That's when there will be a question of 20 billion euros, then they will not only kill hundreds of thousands of people, women and children, with NATO bombs in Libya and with the hands of mercenaries in Syria, but they will commit any crimes.
      The West is an enemy not only of Russia and the whole world, but an enemy in general to Humanity. And someone is ready to serve even Satan himself, in order to feel superior to others and rejoice that Satan protects his skin, that he lives better than the whole world, because Satan tore and robbed millions of others around the world, and as a faithful dog he threw a bone to serve and not yap against, but only for the Master. So it is precisely many ordinary people in the West who support their elites, as well as our former compatriots who are seated and s.r.u.sc.i.e. in all social services. networks to Russia. I constantly swear there with such sh.k.u.r.a.m.i.
    42. +5
      9 October 2013 12: 12
      One feels that again the time has come for a harsh response. Tremble pedophiles and flower growers! Gennady Onishchenko enters the battle!
      1. Mature naturalist
        +1
        9 October 2013 19: 31
        Quote: maxbrov74
        Gennady Onishchenko enters the battle!

        Already entered. Tulips have the wrong system ...
    43. +8
      9 October 2013 12: 14
      Quote: helix
      And what really was there? Why did Borodin start pushing with a policeman in the doorway? Or did the neighbors have a reason to call the police? Especially considering their juvenile justice. And if the truth is about a Saturday accident, 4 damaged cars and a drunken wife with resistance honey. survey. And then the clarification of relations in the family (maybe on this occasion), as a result of noise and a call from one of the neighbors of the police. They (the Dutch and other different ..) have a different mentality: someone is violating something - inform the police. Hence, they have both order and respect for the law.
      Imagine the situation: Uniformed police officers come on call, and they start to resist (and probably rude, I feel impunity) drunk (possibly) the owner. On his forehead it is not written that he is a diplomat.


      Smart you, I goof. Do you really believe that the local police do not know who lives there? In addition, the diplomat informed the Dutch police that he was a diplomat. Cops do not have the right to cross at home without notice to the ambassador.

      Quote: helix
      But ours may have a "stigma in the gun".


      In such cases, the FIRST investigation is carried out, according to the results of which they provide evidence to Russia, and do not raid diplomatic housing.

      Quote: helix
      And we are just talking about the "cold war".
      What about what, and lousy about the bath.

      It is she who is. By the way, it never ended. Putin and Pid..asov does not like and the icebreaker arrested and beloved Obama through Syria lowered.
      For those who are not in the know, the external debt of the Homosyandia is about $ 4 billion, i.e. more than 300% of GDP.
      For comparison, Russia has less than $ 1 billion.
      So this is the most common provocation, an attempt to rekindle a new Cold War. Holland is a stupid executive instrument; ropes stretch across the ocean.
    44. +3
      9 October 2013 12: 14
      Usually in the international practice of diplomacy it was like this — they send out embassy employees and diplomats from a country, the country whose representatives were expelled, in turn, sends representatives of that country called tooth by tooth! And on this, as a rule, it all ended. So here - it is necessary to fill up well .. one or two Dutch diplomats and this will immediately discourage the Netherlands (and other countries) from organizing such provocations against Russia! And if we confine ourselves to politically correct notes of protest, polites and tolerance, then all sorts of NATO mongrels will arrange hostile actions against Russia from the gateway, and then express regrets about what happened. This is evidenced by the fact that this is the second case after Qatar of outrageous, unlawful treatment of a Russian diplomat! The trend is clearly visible, which must be resolutely put an end to!
    45. +5
      9 October 2013 12: 15
      One way or another, but a diplomat has immunity, even if he is drunk or stubborn, thrashing his wife or children, selling arms or drugs, etc. ... In this case, if his antisocial behavior is confirmed, the Netherlands may require his recall and replacement with another, and if you arrest him it’s only by agreement with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and only for temporary detention under house arrest, followed by careful transfer to the homeland. And what do we see? A group of bulls breaks into the Russian diplomat’s home, twists and drags his family along the street and takes him to the police station. And how is it understand? Actually, this is an act of aggression, for good, we would have to declare combat readiness, with the arrest of Dutch diplomats, for their subsequent exchange for ours, but when the Dutch as a whole and their patrons in particular shun fear, request an official apology with the dismissal of the minister The Ministry of Internal Affairs, and all the participants in the attack on the diplomat, right up to the driver of the cop car on which they were taken to the station, and then yes, you can think about leniency.
    46. +3
      9 October 2013 12: 16
      Previously, they declared a war for such a saddle! Brutal flower fagots. Drive them to one place all their roses and pull out one at a time!
    47. +1
      9 October 2013 12: 16
      Quote: Denis
      The reaction of Russia should have been immediate, adequate, harsh!

      For example, I release all the detainees, put them on their steamer, and send them home. at the entrance to the raid of the home port there is an "echo of war" :-)
    48. +3
      9 October 2013 12: 20
      Quote: goldfinger
      Why did the neighbors bother? Because, even in prosperous countries, children are often subjected to cruelties in the family. Therefore, the state calls for vigilance of the school and its neighbors. The Dutch neighbor considered that tipsy parents plus an accident are dangerous, and the police should know that there are two small children in the house. The Dutch police agreed with her.

      How would it be that without matyuk. It seems to me that the Netherlands, with its sexual minorities and drugs, threatens my safety and the safety of my children. And so many of my friends share my concerns. So let's star rockets with nuclear warheads in this Holland, and at the same time as a whole in the European Union. I also have concerns about him. ;)
      As for their "caring for children", their "caring" is many times more dangerous than our drunken rowdy parents.
      As an adequate answer, it would be worth calling the riot police to the Dutch embassy so that they put their entire ambassadors-diplomats in full force with their muzzles in the mud. and would have held it for at least two hours. And to motivate this with a "signal" that our children are allegedly being molested at the Dutch embassy and the children's p-o + r * n: o. Well, and, accordingly, while the search for evidence and material evidence is underway, all their ambassadors should lie on the lawn with their dips in the ground. Regardless of the results of the operation, all ambassadors, after that, must be deported without explanation.

      And in no case do not apologize! Even if nothing is found (which I doubt our trackers will always find, in extreme cases they will bring with them: D). For prevention, repeat the operation with any other embassies (where our ambassadors are offended there;))
    49. phantom359
      +2
      9 October 2013 12: 28
      What for apologies? Punish properly, so that the next time they think what they are doing. American diplomats are very often pedophiles and rowdy, only their neighbors do not call anyone. Hey. Russians, how much can you endure a boorish attitude towards yourself? That Bloodhounds wipe the flag with a flag, now diplomats are being dragged out as criminals and some are some smelly gay men, especially Holland, mired in perversions, and then they mock them at children. It may be enough to wait for an apology, maybe it is time to break off firmly and decisively, especially since Russia can afford it in relation to the Netherlands.
    50. DuraLexSedLex.
      +3
      9 October 2013 12: 31
      This is a pure provocation. Not so long ago, the Russian embassy in Libya was attacked by militants, then the embassy in Damascus was fired upon from mortars (it is regularly fired there, but that time it hit the embassy and not bad), then an employee of the Russian embassy was shot in Abkhazia .Now we see that in "quiet" and "enlightened" Europe, what happened was nothing more than an attack on an embassy employee. Doesn't it seem that these are all links of the same chain ...

      In general, it was necessary to ban, for a long time diplomats live in "apartments", this is when the Foreign Ministry officially, TAKES OFF housing for their employees. There is a problem that this is not possible everywhere, because our embassies abroad cannot always provide housing for deep workers. corps on the territory of the embassy / representative office / trade mission
      / consulates (sometimes they are located in different buildings throughout the city) .But here in The Hague ?! I would understand if this happened in Lithuania or where else ... but Gaga, the "heart of justice" of Europe is not otherwise .... Newspapers and other freedom media tried to throw mud at his family, stating:
      "in the Dutch press there were reports about Dmitry Borodin's" drunken state. "
      "There is also information that law enforcement officers twice came to the diplomat's home. The reason for the first call, on Saturday, was an accident that was allegedly arranged by Borodin's wife, who managed to damage four parked cars."

      I can responsibly declare if this happens, they will immediately find out about it at the embassy, ​​and if wine is installed, then the suitcase-airport-homeland at 24 o’clock.
      I can hardly imagine if this happened under the USSR what would happen ...
    51. +2
      9 October 2013 12: 35
      It is necessary to immediately expel Dutch diplomats from Russia and close the Russian embassy in Holland. The provocations may continue; there will certainly be those who want to further inflame the conflict and attack Dutch diplomats in Moscow. And in general, why maintain diplomatic relations with a state that has legalized drug addicts and fagots.
    52. +3
      9 October 2013 12: 45
      Hello everybody.
      Even if the diplomat is drunk, although no one has proven to me that he was drunk, he remains immune. It seems to me that in order to so brazenly and shamelessly violate the fundamental norms of international diplomacy, the Dutch authorities (or someone higher) must have had very serious reasons. And, most likely, these reasons do not lie in the field of criminal, administrative law or juvenile justice.
      I offer this version of what happened.
      During the day, Borodin's wife met with an illegal source and received important information from him. The fact of contact and transfer of information became known to the Dutch counterintelligence, an attempt to detain, a chase, another attempt to detain near the house, four cars were damaged, the woman managed to run and lock herself in the apartment. She must hand over the received media with information to the embassy, ​​but the house is already cordoned off, if you leave, they will accept you immediately, and even with spy information in your hands - guaranteed deportation. Meanwhile, counterintelligence is trying to prevent the Russian side from receiving this information, for this purpose the specified provocation is organized, under this sauce a “secret search” is carried out in the diplomat’s apartment, the carrier was not found, the diplomat is under the responsibility of some policeman (bent, naturally, by counterintelligence) , delivered to the station, they work closely on the item “where it was hidden” or “to whom it was handed over.”
      As a result, the Russian side can only file a complaint about a violation of some kind of convention, the policeman will be fired (with an honorable and secure pension), and they will apologize to us. No one will stir up a spy scandal, not us, not them. The unconditionally honest, but overzealous policeman from the nearest police station is to blame for everything.
      Is this possible, eh, forum members?
      Of course, one must react harshly to such rudeness. Immediately stop all Dutch diplomats located outside the embassy and consulates in Moscow and other cities, find drugs on them, beat them up, let them go, and then “fire” the overzealous guys?
      1. 0
        9 October 2013 13: 48
        ("fire" overzealous guys - Happy Promotion!)
      2. Mature naturalist
        0
        9 October 2013 19: 39
        Quote: Luga
        I offer this version of what happened.

        Super!!! James Bond is crying nervously in the corner...

        But in the era of the Internet, no one will transfer media. I cut it into pieces with RAR, encrypted it with a 128-bit key, and put the pieces in mailboxes on gmail, yandex and others, like draft letters. Deploy through a proxy and using multiple SIM cards. Whoever needs it can log in and download it to their computer.
        1. 0
          9 October 2013 23: 39
          But what about the secret behind-the-scenes international intrigues, plans to attack Russia, signed by the Minister of Defense of the Netherlands? A contract for selling your soul to the devil, signed in blood, finally? You can't send them by email. wink
          But it seems that all gay European politicians have concluded such an agreement.
          wink wink wink
    53. +9
      9 October 2013 12: 49
      I see that some commentators act on the principle:

      Trust the Dutch media; spit on your country.
      1. xan
        0
        10 October 2013 02: 16
        Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
        Trust the Dutch media; spit on your country.

        this is not their country
        some cheap guys are brainless
    54. Shellback
      +3
      9 October 2013 13: 08
      An attack on a Russian diplomat, his children and an armed invasion of a diplomatic residence by the Dutch side are, in fact, a de jure armed attack on the Russian Federation. Diplomatic missions, vehicles, and housing of diplomats, according to international standards, are the territory of the country they represent, in this case, Russia. An apology must be made, but a firm response is needed. It would be nice for Russian special forces to storm the housing of Dutch diplomats in Moscow, give them a good s...d in front of television cameras and kick them out of Russia, escorting them in handcuffs to the plane. In addition, interrupt trade with Holland. THIS would be a worthy response from a GREAT POWER, and everything else, excuse me, is nose bubbles and drool. Notes of protest from our Foreign Ministry are a sign of powerlessness; in Europe they laugh at us and know that nothing will happen. Maybe stop playing “partners”? Does our leadership have self-respect?
      I remember during the Soviet Union, somewhere over the hill, several Soviet citizens were killed, they wanted to squeeze out the Russians. So, after the intervention of the Soviet special forces, which sent the head of the terrorist leader in a box to the rest of the thugs, attacks on USSR citizens abruptly stopped. Violence against citizens of the USSR became taboo.
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        +9
        9 October 2013 13: 38
        In the fall of 1985, Hezbollah abducted 4's of Soviet diplomats in Beirut. They killed one of them at once. The rest were held captive.

        In response, the State Security Committee (KGB) captured a relative of the Hezbollah leader. As part of their counterterrorism plan, the KGB "castrated him, stuffed the severed sex glands into his mouth, shot him in the head and sent his body to the Hezbollah terrorist organization. An accompanying text was attached to the corpse, explaining that other members of God's Party would finish. his life in the same way, unless three Soviet diplomats are released. "

        Soon after, Hezbollah released the remaining three Soviet hostages. Soviet interests in Lebanon were never threatened again.
        1. Shellback
          +4
          9 October 2013 15: 08
          Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
          In the fall of 1985, Hezbollah abducted 4's of Soviet diplomats in Beirut. They killed one of them at once. The rest were held captive.

          In response, the State Security Committee (KGB) captured a relative of the Hezbollah leader. As part of their counterterrorism plan, the KGB "castrated him, stuffed the severed sex glands into his mouth, shot him in the head and sent his body to the Hezbollah terrorist organization. An accompanying text was attached to the corpse, explaining that other members of God's Party would finish. his life in the same way, unless three Soviet diplomats are released. "

          Soon after, Hezbollah released the remaining three Soviet hostages. Soviet interests in Lebanon were never threatened again.


          That's right, in Lebanon. Yes In fact, the Dutch attacked and beat not Borodin, but Russia. The bastards must be twisted into a ram's horn so that they know their place. Some Western European dwarf will yap and we will endure it? We must answer. angry am
        2. Shellback
          +1
          9 October 2013 15: 16
          Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
          Soon after, Hezbollah released the remaining three Soviet hostages. Soviet interests in Lebanon were never threatened again.

          This is how you need to protect the interests of the country so that you will remember it for the rest of your life.
        3. +1
          9 October 2013 16: 07
          I just mentioned this case in my comment. I just left out the details. + to you.
        4. xan
          +2
          9 October 2013 16: 39
          Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
          As part of the anti-terrorist plan, the KGB "castrated him, stuffed the severed gonads into his mouth, shot him in the head and sent his body to the terrorist organization Hezbollah

          The KGB is a serious organization working on a front where there are no rules and where the result is important.
          If only the Soviet machine tool industry, the automotive industry, light industry, and the entire national economy worked this way.
    55. +2
      9 October 2013 13: 29
      Russia's main trading partners in 2008 among non-CIS countries were Germany, whose trade turnover amounted to $67,3 billion, Netherlands - $61,8 billion, China - $55,9 billion, Italy - $52,9 billion, Turkey - $33,8 billion, Japan - $29 billion, USA - $27,3 billion, Poland - $27,2 billion, UK - $22,5 billion, Finland - $22,4 billion
      They don't value their second place. Hey, Onishchenko, or rather Atu laughing
      1. +1
        9 October 2013 13: 41
        Quote: kagorta
        Russia's main trading partners in 2008 among non-CIS countries were Germany, whose trade turnover amounted to $67,3 billion, Netherlands - $61,8 billion, China - $55,9 billion, Italy - $52,9 billion, Turkey - $33,8 billion, Japan - $29 billion, USA - $27,3 billion, Poland - $27,2 billion, UK - $22,5 billion, Finland - $22,4 billion
        They don't value their second place. Hey, Onishchenko, or rather Atu laughing

        Listen, enlighten me. For some reason I don’t see a lot of Dutch goods. We don’t eat that amount of cheese. Maybe this is the total amount? Then we will suffer more
        1. 0
          13 October 2013 09: 42
          Philips, flowers. but in general, you are right, the ratio of our exports to imports is like 10 to 1.
    56. 0
      9 October 2013 13: 32
      I don't eat Dutch cheese anymore, but...
      There's one thing I don't understand. time after time our so-called diplomatic workers behave unworthily over the hill. Drunkenness, rowdy behavior... We don't have enough normal and adequate people who want to work for the state?
    57. gunnerminer
      -5
      9 October 2013 13: 34
      High-ranking citizens of the Russian Federation with the surname Borodin are unlucky abroad! Then the thief Borodin was put under arrest in the United States, now the diplomat Borodin is arrested. In the photo there is a man with a worn-out face of a person accustomed to alcohol. In the Russian Federation, police officers or a local police officer, having arrived at the call of neighbors, having seen their quarrelsome drunken husband and his wife, he would have turned around and left. In the Netherlands, the police will not let drunks scaring children with their screams. Let’s see how events will develop further. When all the circumstances of the case are clarified.
      1. kaktus
        +1
        9 October 2013 17: 12
        In the photo there is a man with the drunken face of a person accustomed to alcohol.

        Your photo goes to the studio! smile
        1. gunnerminer
          -1
          9 October 2013 17: 38
          Your photo - to the studio



          The topic of the post is not about me. It’s about the adventures of a married couple of drunks who accidentally ended up doing diplomatic work in the Netherlands and frightening their children with their brawls. No one is interested in my photo.
    58. 128mgb
      +3
      9 October 2013 13: 40
      Somehow I find it hard to believe that the wife of a Russian diplomat rammed 4 cars while drunk. The Western press would immediately have raised such a howl, but it was quiet.
      1. -5
        9 October 2013 13: 48
        Quote: 128mgb
        Somehow I find it hard to believe that the wife of a Russian diplomat rammed 4 cars while drunk. The Western press would immediately have raised such a howl, but it was quiet.

        The press has nothing else to do but raise a howl about every accident. Somehow you overestimate our importance for their lives. We have news about the USA on the 1st page, and for them (I’m talking about the States) it’s on the last. Unless, of course, something extraordinary happens. Inner life is more interesting to them. Police say they believed the children's safety was at risk. We won’t know how it was there. But if we assume that the police are telling the truth, then what kind of message to the embassy are we talking about - we must act immediately. Moreover, it seems that Borodin began to speak out strongly and, in his own words, began to push them out. One could think anything here when a person does not allow the police to check
      2. +1
        9 October 2013 16: 38
        Quote: 128mgb
        Somehow I find it hard to believe that the wife of a Russian diplomat rammed 4 cars while drunk.

        What do you mean you don't believe me? That there are only four cars? Why didn’t she run over any passers-by? The link contains a video of Borodin’s wife on a stretcher and a broken car.
        http://nos.nl/artikel/560093-borodin-was-gevaar-voor-kinderen.html
    59. +2
      9 October 2013 14: 09
      The Netherlands and the Netherlands should be renamed on the world map) Medvedev is no stranger to it))) Let him sit and draw, at least there will be some benefit)
    60. +6
      9 October 2013 14: 38
      Rosselkhoznadzor is ready to ban the supply of tulips from Holland

      Russia may ban the supply of tulips from Holland. Claims about the quality of products from the Netherlands have been around for a long time. This was announced by press secretary Alexey Alekseenko.
      “We have certain problems, many of which have been around for a long time. We have solved them with varying degrees of success, but the problems still remain,” Alekseenko said.
      According to Alekseenko, the parties will have to meet substantively to resolve the accumulated problems, and not only “on phyto-sanitary issues, but also on issues of ensuring the safety of products of animal origin.” “Here we are talking not only about flowers, but also about plant products, planting material. That is, about the entire range of products supplied to us from Holland,” he concluded.
      In addition, earlier the head of Rosselkhoznadzor Sergei Dankvert said that the preliminary results of inspections showed the need for urgent updating of the list of suppliers by the Dutch veterinary service. According to him, “the Dutch veterinary service signs documents without looking.”
      This statement came against the backdrop of growing tension in relations between Russia and the Netherlands. The reason for this was an incident that occurred with the adviser of the Russian diplomatic mission in The Hague - last weekend, armed men in camouflage uniforms broke into the diplomat’s apartment, beat him and took him to the police station.

      http://www.utro.ru/news/2013/10/09/1149080.shtml
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        +4
        9 October 2013 14: 50
        The world is beginning to fear Onishchenko and others like him more than the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Russian Army as a whole laughing
        This is not an insult to the army, but to the effectiveness of sanctions)
        1. xan
          0
          9 October 2013 20: 37
          Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
          The world is beginning to fear Onishchenko and others like him more than the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Russian Army as a whole laughing
          This is not an insult to the army, but to the effectiveness of sanctions)

          The army is the "last argument of kings." And the Netherlands is the fly that Russia should terrorize with only Onishchenko, Gazprom and Rosneft - Russians do not fight children and homosexuals, they must be bypassed.
          Once I was reading a Polish forum, I forgot what topic it was on. There, the Poles were all indignant that from century to century Russian diplomacy was much more effective than Polish. Well, how can Polish diplomacy be effective if they have neither Onishchenko nor the Russian army?
    61. 0
      9 October 2013 14: 40
      Where is our country's chief health officer? I won’t be surprised (delighted) if I hear the news this evening that Dutch tulips contain some kind of E. coli or cholera virus
    62. 0
      9 October 2013 15: 00
      The cigarette stubs are completely gone.
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    64. +1
      9 October 2013 15: 30
      Quote: seasoned
      Send the Dutch Embassy from Russia !!! Disable export of flowers !!! How much can you "wipe"? Why does Russia need an apology? This is a representative of the country and he was humiliated and insulted, beaten in front of his children, which means they insulted Russia too !!!
      First in Kuwait, now in Holland tomorrow our diplomats will be beaten around the world? Besides the words of time and deeds, can the dignity and honor of the country begin to defend? hi
      Burst and beat to allegedly protect the children of a diplomat and right there
      So the diplomat talks about how the police dragged his daughter.

      “She has a hefty shred of hair in the form of rolled up mats. They pulled, apparently, so she went. This is my guess. But the fact that she lost a shred of hair is a fact. ”

      Reminds: "We will not leave stone unturned for the sake of world peace" ...
      As a joke:
      To appoint Povetkin, Emelianenko and Valuev to the diplomatic corps of the Netherlands. Call police outfits in their apartments every day until the police are completely exterminated wassat


      Onishchenko is now simply obliged to find the harmful beetle in Dutch roses and tulips.
      1. +2
        9 October 2013 16: 01
        And diplomatic asses, that is. arrange an anal search for the entire embassy of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
        1. 0
          9 October 2013 17: 55
          Yes, you won’t scare them with this; homosexuals will have such trouble for their happiness. lol For such things you need to be slapped on the wrist, without unnecessary snot. If there is a joint, you will get it in the face, period.
    65. 0
      9 October 2013 15: 37
      In my opinion, their cops smoked something wrong, but they need to be punished even more harshly, so that stoned Gayropites know their place
    66. 0
      9 October 2013 15: 53
      Before expelling Dutch diplomats, give everyone blue lanterns to “prove” that they are wrong...
    67. 0
      9 October 2013 15: 54
      There is no place for straight people in Holland.
    68. 0
      9 October 2013 15: 55
      Let them do whatever they want in Homoland with their homosexuals, but with our diplomats, please, according to the law. And as an answer, send their homo-diplomat to the police station, where they were playing around with champagne, check whether he is offending children, and then expel him from the country without children, for the sake of preserving the life and health of the children and break off any relations with these stoned homosexuals.
    69. 0
      9 October 2013 15: 55
      Having substituted the left one, wait on the right one.
    70. 0
      9 October 2013 16: 20
      Against all this background, I was most pleased with the article in the newspaper “Vzglyad”.
      http://vz.ru/news/2013/10/9/654139.html

      More and more gay European partners feel the punishing sword in the person of Gena Onishchenko on their ass.
      Recently, some foreign minister from some Lithuania seemed to be talking about blocking the Kaliningrad region... and for you, some nasty things were found in Lithuanian products.
      Onishchenko, good
    71. -6
      9 October 2013 16: 32
      The police, risking their jobs, fulfilled their duty, caught up with a drunk who didn’t care that he was disgracing the country. Now the issue will be resolved simply, the police will receive a punishment, the police chief will be fired, the Netherlands will make an official apology, and then everything will die down. The “hero” himself will return home, get a position in some state corporation or bank and will continue to behave like, but now without fear that the police, if he sends one of his ordinary compatriots to the next world with his car, will dare to detain him ... I wish everyone who indignantly raises their fists to the sky, threatening the Netherlands with a nuclear holocaust, not to get in the way of this “hero”...
      1. +1
        9 October 2013 17: 39
        Suppose he was drunk, even if the police did not have the right to detain a diplomat, for this there are other measures and regulations of international law. But why give minor children a “nightmare”? They dragged the hiding daughter out of the closet by her hair and into the police station at night!
        1. -1
          9 October 2013 21: 39
          Quote: RUSS
          Suppose he was drunk, even if the police did not have the right to detain a diplomat, for this there are other measures and regulations of international law

          I don’t deny, that’s why I wrote that the police acted in good conscience without regard for diplomatic immunity, and for this they will be punished.
          Quote: RUSS
          But why give minors a nightmare? They dragged the hiding daughter out of the closet by her hair and into the police station at night!

          Judging by the fragmentary description, he and his wife and children were drunk from somewhere, his wife took four cars near the house, and Borodin took the children home, it seems they were very scared and cried, and that drunk either yelled at them, or pushed, in general by our standards, it's okay, a drunk deer with roaring children, in the Netherlands this is unacceptable. The police first talked with him about the accident, and then arrived at the request of the neighbors, it seems the children did not calm down and cried, and Borodin yelled at them, then cursed with the police using profanity (the news announcer incidentally gave examples of his statement in English), the police Seeing this disgrace, she decided to detain him, but Borodin resisted, and therefore he was handcuffed. The fact that he later said that the police beat him and mistreated the children, I don’t believe a bit, this is not a damn Kryzhopol police department, this does not happen there. It’s just that Borodin behaves like an ordinary Russian blue which I have seen enough in the Ministry of Internal Affairs for 8 years, drunk - a hero, a fur coat down, and the next day at the prosecutor’s office he writes how he was absolutely sober and sadistic kicked and kicked in a jail for allegedly beating his wife , which of course does not confirm it, although the outfit itself caused it when he drove it around the apartment with an ax.
          It’s unfortunate that our diplomats are not much different from an ordinary kitchen fighter ...
          Well, the Dutch police will undoubtedly make a drag, an international scandal all the same ...
          1. gunnerminer
            -1
            9 October 2013 21: 43
            It’s unfortunate that our diplomats are not much different from an ordinary kitchen fighter ...
            Well, the Dutch police will undoubtedly make a drag, an international scandal all the same ...



            That's right, dear Nayhas!
          2. +1
            9 October 2013 23: 03
            Quote: Nayhas
            Well, the Dutch police will undoubtedly make a drag, an international scandal all the same ...

            It’s clear that you and gunnerminer are copy-pasting from the same source, please indicate if you don’t complain.
      2. Glory333
        +3
        9 October 2013 18: 39
        Where did you get the idea that Borodin was drunk? Did you see it yourself?
    72. serge
      +3
      9 October 2013 16: 51
      The threat of reducing the export of tulips and cheese is good, of course, and very evil according to European standards, but in addition to economics, there must be symmetrical measures. I remember when the Poles beat the children of our diplomats, after which for a whole month the Poles from the diplomatic corps in Moscow were caught and punched in the ears. At the same time, it would be nice if someone from Qatar fell under the hot hand - they owe a favor.
    73. +1
      9 October 2013 17: 16
      The schmalt and mushrooms were apparently very luscious. After a cannabis-miskaline cocktail, how can they remember the Hague Convention, and do they even know about it? About appearance and morality, I agree behind the beautiful skin, sometimes such a mug shows through! But this does not mean that one must act as they did with the diplomat. Lithuania, the Chief Sanitary Doctor is already treating, the Netherlands could also benefit from a sobering enema of various sanctions. Alas, there is no other way with them; they will never understand. When is the gangway in Vilno? Surely, this provocation is timed to coincide with future events.
    74. Chervonets
      +1
      9 October 2013 17: 42
      Quote: goldfinger
      From Minsk. THIS IS ALREADY SCHIZOPHRENIA. Fall asleep with minuses !!!
      Dutch dairy products not tested by Rosselkhoznadzor
      09.10.2013, 12: 45 | "Newspaper.Ru"

      The preliminary results of the inspection of suppliers of dairy products from the Netherlands to Russia are unsatisfactory, Interfax reports with reference to a statement by the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor Sergey Dankvert.

      In particular, urgent updating of the list of suppliers by the Dutch veterinary service is necessary. “As it turned out, the veterinary service of this country signs the documents without seeing the products ... On the other hand, under the Ministry of Economy of the Netherlands there is a service that checks the quality of milk. It turns out that veterinarians check milk less, and we accept guarantees not of the veterinary service, but of a different structure - we don’t understand this, ”Dankvert explained, adding that now the Russian veterinary service will carefully examine the country's dairy products.

      To date, 71 enterprises are included in the list of suppliers. “But the desire to supply their products to Russia is not a basis for inclusion in the list of suppliers, the basis is the fulfillment of Russian veterinary and sanitary requirements,” the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor said.
      Madhouse.


      Do you hear, gentleman from Minsk?
      Calm your loins.
      Otherwise they will think that inadequate people live in our city.

      PS
      I'm also from Minsk.
      And all my friends are oh... so confused by grass lovers.

      There must be an eye for an eye.
    75. Chervonets
      +1
      9 October 2013 17: 55
      Quote: Grenader

      Previous deeds? In Qatar, the ambassador was stumbled at the airport, they almost selected the diplomatic post. And what was the deed? I’m giving birth and that's all.

      I'm afraid I'll be wrong, but didn't this incident happen with an iPhone?
      And we remember Medved’s inappropriate behavior in foreign policy.
      And on the inside, he is Gorbachev Namba 2. 4 years (+ premiership) were enough to show his essence, narcissism, narrow-mindedness, anti-patriotism, desire to get into his pockets.
      1. +5
        9 October 2013 18: 05
        The Netherlands apologized for the incident with the Russian diplomat
        The Dutch authorities on Wednesday apologized to Moscow for the detention of Russian diplomat Dmitry Borodin in The Hague, Agence France Presse reported, citing a statement by the Dutch government.
        An apology was made by Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans.
        http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/10/9/654174.html

        I believe that this is not enough; monetary compensation should be paid for the moral and physical suffering inflicted on the diplomat. Only then can the incident be considered over.
    76. Alex 241
      +1
      9 October 2013 18: 03
      News from TC ZVEZDA: The Dutch Foreign Ministry has made an official apology in connection with the incident with the Russian diplomat.
    77. +2
      9 October 2013 18: 06
      For those who believe that Borodin is a priori a scoundrel.
      Borodin may be a scoundrel, but he is our scoundrel and Holland must answer for this.
    78. Chervonets
      +2
      9 October 2013 18: 14
      Quote: helix
      And what really was there? Why did Borodin start pushing with a policeman in the doorway? Or did the neighbors have a reason to call the police? Especially considering their juvenile justice. And if the truth is about a Saturday accident, 4 damaged cars and a drunken wife with resistance honey. survey. And then the clarification of relations in the family (maybe on this occasion), as a result of noise and a call from one of the neighbors of the police. They (the Dutch and other different ..) have a different mentality: someone is violating something - inform the police. Hence, they have both order and respect for the law.
      Imagine the situation: Uniformed police officers come on call, and they start to resist (and probably rude, I feel impunity) drunk (possibly) the owner. On his forehead it is not written that he is a diplomat.
      Of course, the Dutch had to act in accordance with existing international agreements, i.e. contact our embassy so that the embassies themselves deal with their (possibly) rowdy. And now the Dutch must apologize for such a violation of international law.
      But ours may have a "stigma in the gun".
      And we are just talking about the "cold war".
      What about what, and lousy about the bath.

      1. Had every right not to be allowed into the home
      2. How can I get the Dutch juvenile justice system close to the Russian diplomat and his home?
      3. Even if they didn’t know on the threshold that he was a diplomat (which I absolutely don’t believe), then at the moment when he was handcuffed and the children were dragged by the hair (hey, juveniles!) into the “bobby”, they certainly knew.
      4. The Dutch did not apologize, but turn on the fool. And this is precisely what they must pay for.
    79. Glory333
      -1
      9 October 2013 18: 37
      It is necessary that the Dutch diplomats should be beaten, preferably 2-3, naturally it should not be the police who beat them, but unidentified private individuals, the Dutch should “be left with traces of violence on their faces as victims of an attack by unknown persons” (c).
    80. +1
      9 October 2013 18: 46
      The main thing is that the police knew about the inviolability of the home at this address, this is their job.
      And who said that the police were only concerned about taking care of children.
      Who can guarantee that this home was not visited by security officers... they installed special equipment, or maybe removed it, that they did not take impressions of the keys, that they did not go through notebooks, phones and computers.
      There is no way I can believe that everything was so simply clumsily and brazenly done...question Why did you try and substitute yourself...???
    81. +1
      9 October 2013 18: 48
      Quote: Averias
      If the Dutch did this because of Greenpeace, then they are an idiot in a cube

      MOSCOW, October 9 – RIA Novosti. Investigators may adjust the charges against those involved in the case of the emergency on the Prirazlomnaya, taking into account the fact that drugs were found on the activists’ ship, official representative of the Russian Investigative Committee Vladimir Markin told reporters on Wednesday.

      Previously, 30 people involved in this case were charged with piracy. This article carries up to 15 years in prison.
      “Taking into account the data obtained during the investigation of the criminal case, the charges already brought against everyone are expected to be adjusted. <...> A number of defendants will be charged with committing other serious crimes,” Markin said.
      He also noted that “some of the equipment seized (on the Arctic Sunrise vessel) has a dual purpose and could be used not only for environmental purposes.” This will be verified as part of forensic examinations, which the investigation plans to commission in the near future.
      “During the inspection of the vessel, narcotic substances were seized (presumably poppy straw and morphine). The origin of these substances and their purpose are also being established,” Markin said.
      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/investigation/20131009/968815066.html#ixzz2hEhwF0gp

      They're also considered diplomats! They thought they were in a fairy tale, they'll learn something else, ours will find something illegal. laughing
    82. +2
      9 October 2013 18: 51
      The beating of Borodin is clearly an attack on the arrest of Greenpeace activists and the Arctic Sunrise ship... On their website, Greenpeace members write that the territory of the ship is the sovereign territory of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, so apparently the raiders were in camouflage, like if you and the soldiers attacked us, then ours the answer is similar...
      1. 0
        9 October 2013 20: 36
        Quote: Altona
        and on their website Greenpeace writes that the territory of the ship is the sovereign territory of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, so apparently the raiders were in camouflage, like if you and your soldiers attacked us, then our answer is similar...

        But then it turns out that this kingdom of the Netherlands attacked the Russian platform, committed an act of aggression, wars began for less.
    83. +1
      9 October 2013 18: 52
      Hello dear Slava!

      Please forgive me, I mistakenly gave you a minus, sorry! request

      In this detail, that injuries could be caused by unidentified persons, this, in my opinion, is a sign of boyish mischief. smile

      In my opinion, a much greater educational and attacking effect will be produced by “inflicting the same injuries” by police or riot police in the presence of an investigator, translator, prosecutor and television reporters!

      Russia must and MUST protect its diplomats.

      Di date, Mikhailo.
      1. Glory333
        +1
        9 October 2013 19: 10
        Sorry)
        If injuries to Dutch diplomats are caused by employees of Russian authorities, this will mean a violation of the Vienna Convention on the part of Russia.
        Quote about “...as a victim of an attack by unknown persons” from the comedy “The Diamond Arm”.
    84. turan_up
      0
      9 October 2013 18: 52
      Block all their ports with large warships. And declare - “we will not unblock your ports until you prove that it was our ships that blocked them.”
    85. coserg 2012
      0
      9 October 2013 19: 05
      It is necessary to punish the Netherlands itself, and there is no flexibility or compromise! angry
    86. +1
      9 October 2013 19: 16
      A murky story...the fact that diplomatic immunity has been violated is clear without words and it is necessary to react to this harshly. This harsh detention itself is strange, because the Dutch most likely knew what consequences would follow and they will follow in relation to those who carried out this detention, I would not be very surprised that Borodin himself provoked them quite a bit, because it is no secret that diplomatic personnel of many countries abuse their status Well, as a result of these abuses, sometimes the “human factor” comes into play... I mean that “specialists” don’t do tricks everywhere, I mean that living people live everywhere.
    87. gameover65
      0
      9 October 2013 19: 26
      What's there to argue about! Let's wash ourselves off again and that's all.
      Until the ruler is a warrior in spirit, it will be so.
    88. +1
      9 October 2013 20: 04
      News: Holland has officially apologized. Our Foreign Ministry confirms
      1. 0
        9 October 2013 20: 49
        forgive and let go am
      2. gunnerminer
        -6
        9 October 2013 21: 04
        News: Holland has officially apologized. Our Foreign Ministry confirms




        This is a victory for the Russian Foreign Ministry. They defended, the Onishchenko weathervane and the Lavrov weathervane, the family of drunkards Borodins with diplomatic passports.
        1. Glory333
          +3
          9 October 2013 21: 11
          Of course, you have a certificate from a narcologist about the alcoholism of your husband, wife and children of the Borodins? :)
          1. gunnerminer
            -4
            9 October 2013 21: 24
            Of course, you have a certificate from a narcologist about the alcoholism of your husband, wife and children of the Borodins? :)




            Russian drunks are not required to register with a narcologist.
            1. Glory333
              +2
              9 October 2013 21: 29
              Well, you’re not standing there and that’s fine, but what does the Borodin family have to do with it? I don't understand :)
          2. xan
            +1
            10 October 2013 02: 22
            Quote: Glory333
            Of course, you have a certificate from a narcologist about the alcoholism of your husband, wife and children of the Borodins? :)

            Yes, he’s offended and depressed, you can’t see it or something
            well, an inadequate, tolerant and cool democrat with European values
            no need to feed the guy
    89. 0
      9 October 2013 21: 11
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      Well, in comparison with the ear of Moscow or the tweeter of a talking horse, here are gathered entirely "botanists" who do not even know bad words

      :)) .... no, we don’t know for sure... We speak it!!!
    90. 0
      9 October 2013 21: 20
      I think their ambassador needs to stop by at the reception at the FSB..(for starters..))))
    91. Glory333
      0
      9 October 2013 21: 28
      Regarding the discovery of drugs on the Greenpeace ship, if I were the Russian authorities, I would have done blood tests on the Greenpeace people and found drugs there too.
    92. 0
      9 October 2013 21: 38
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I think their ambassador needs to stop by at the reception at the FSB..(for starters..))))


      Chocolate? wassat
    93. +2
      9 October 2013 22: 07
      Good evening everyone!

      I want to share some fresh information with you. And I was very pleased to hear this!
      Just now on Radio Slovakia (state station), they were broadcasting “through gritted teeth” that

      - Holland has ALREADY APOLOGIZED to Russia for the incident with the diplomat, good

      - that Putin was harsh in demanding explanations and apologies

      - and that Dutch Greenpeace members may have been the cause of the “action (provocation) of the Dutch police”?!

      So, despite everything, Russia’s WEIGHT in the world is gradually RISING. good drinks
      1. gunnerminer
        -8
        9 October 2013 22: 13
        So, despite everything, Russia’s WEIGHT in the world is gradually RISING.




        About the same as an old drunkard’s genital organ rises once a year. The Dutch side apologized for violating the Vienna Convention. No one apologized for the fact that the drunkard Borodin was sent to prison!
    94. 0
      9 October 2013 22: 24
      Quote: gunnerminer
      About the same as an old drunkard’s genital organ rises once a year

      Judging by your comments, this is painfully familiar and familiar to you. Get treatment and may God help you. laughing
      1. gunnerminer
        -5
        9 October 2013 22: 27
        Judging by your comments, this is painfully familiar and familiar to you. Get treatment and may God help you.



        Look at the exhibited photo of the drunkard diplomat Borodin! This photo was posted by a man with humor. Also wearing a T-shirt with the Venezuelan dictator.
        1. MG42
          +3
          10 October 2013 01: 28
          Quote: gunnerminer
          Look at the photo of the drunk diplomat Borodin on display!

          How can you tell from a photo?
          In the photo in the thread he doesn’t look like a drunk, much less in the video.
          Where did you see the neck of the decanter? then maybe Coca Cola easily wassat
          Quote: gunnerminer
          Also wearing a T-shirt with the Venezuelan dictator.

          This has nothing to do with it at all?? Chavez was simply adored by the common people of Venezuela. Re-elected more than once...
          1. gunnerminer
            -1
            10 October 2013 01: 37
            How can you tell from a photo?
            In the photo in the thread he doesn’t look like a drunk, much less in the video. This has nothing to do with it at all. Chavez was simply adored by the common people of Venezuela. Re-elected more than once...


            In the photo, every drunk will recognize. A T-shirt with a dictator on a drunk diplomat. We are discussing the photo on display, which means it corresponds to the topic. Moreover, I have nothing against the adoration of the people. The people adored M.S. Gorbachev. They shouted - perestroika, Gorbachev. And the first The President of the Russian Federation, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, was adored. They shouted, “Boris, fight!”
            1. MG42
              +3
              10 October 2013 01: 41
              You don’t even know how to quote on a website lol , the neck of a Coca-Cola bottle is confused with a decanter = what kind of drunk? Does this photo smell like fumes? laughing
              Quote: gunnerminer
              The people also adored M.S. Gorbachev

              And what does Gorby have to do with <Venezuelan dictator> Chavez = like <my thoughts are my horses>?
    95. -2
      9 October 2013 22: 28
      If only our ambassadors were shown to the people more often... I saw the body that was brought from Libya wassat , I almost choked on my beer, but he had been eating there nonstop since his arrival. Borodin is a major, definitely. As stated above, our people (and even more so OFFICIALS) love to abuse things a little. Very murky story, maybe we really got drunk together with my wife.
      1. gunnerminer
        -6
        9 October 2013 22: 31
        Very murky story, maybe we really got drunk together with my wife.





        Yes, Mr. Lavrov dismissed his subordinates! They abuse and rowdy.
    96. +2
      9 October 2013 22: 32
      Quote: gunnerminer
      So, despite everything, Russia’s WEIGHT in the world is gradually RISING.



      About the same as an old drunkard’s genital organ rises once a year. The Dutch side apologized for violating the Vienna Convention. No one apologized for the fact that the drunkard Borodin was sent to prison!

      If anything, we, together with the Netherlands, will hold your conventions on the organ that many countries in the world have felt this for themselves.. (and more than once) We will organize a gay pride parade for you at the logging site!
      1. gunnerminer
        -3
        9 October 2013 22: 54
        If anything, we, together with the Netherlands, will hold your conventions on the organ that many countries in the world have felt this for themselves.. (and more than once) We will organize a gay pride parade for you at the logging site!



        Lots of pathos! Turn until the spit freezes.
    97. +1
      9 October 2013 23: 06
      Quote: gunnerminer
      If anything, we, together with the Netherlands, will hold your conventions on the organ that many countries in the world have felt this for themselves.. (and more than once) We will organize a gay pride parade for you at the logging site!



      Lots of pathos! Turn until the spit freezes.

      Maybe..But the zone is waiting for comrades.(by law)..
      1. gunnerminer
        0
        9 October 2013 23: 31
        Maybe..But the zone is waiting for comrades.(by law)..





        Is there a law in the Russian Federation? Have you mixed up anything? Serdyukov undermined the combat readiness of the Russian Armed Forces. Prosecutors near Moscow with criminals lost the regional budget in an underground casino. And everyone is free! Evgenia Vasilyeva goes to boutiques for fittings. Tell the simpleton draft dodgers about the law.
    98. MG42
      +2
      9 October 2013 23: 28
      On the night of October 6 in The Hague, people in police camouflage uniforms broke into the apartment of Dmitry Borodin, an employee of the Russian embassy. The intruders were not interested in the inviolability of the diplomatic person. They did not show any documents.

      Before this, the Dutch police probably stopped by to have a bite of the "astral cupcake", which is very popular in local eateries >>
    99. 0
      9 October 2013 23: 32
      They found a hero... They broke into the apartment, hit him on the head, and tore out a tuft of the child's hair. I would tear everyone apart. Fuck at the convention. And this one has a bruise on his eye. Ugh. Soplezhuy.
    100. ork
      ork
      +3
      10 October 2013 00: 20
      Quote: kagorta
      The main trading partners of Russia in 2008 among non-CIS countries were Germany, with trade turnover of $ 67,3 billion, the Netherlands - $ 61,8 billion, China - $ 55,9 billion, Italy - $ 52,9 billion, Turkey - $ 33,8 billion , Japan - $ 29 billion, the United States - $ 27,3 billion, Poland - $ 27,2 billion, the UK - $ 22,5 billion, Finland - $ 22,4 billion.
      They don't value their second place. Ay, Onishchenko, or rather Atu laughing

      Having read and analyzed an immeasurable number of comments, I realized that they are divided into several categories:
      1. Break everyone up. The ambassador and several other representatives of this country are “on stake”. Emotional but not feasible;
      2. And the Russian Ambassador is to blame himself. “Either he stole it, or from him. But still he’s a bastard and a major.” I fundamentally do not support such commentators;
      3. Let's release Onishchenko. What to take from him. Everyone is already used to it. As a result, Russia will once again appear in a “bad light.”
      With your permission, a few of my thoughts:
      Proposing a solution to a political scandal using a food topic (constantly) is bad manners.
      In the quotation, the author indicated trade turnover with this country. What the hell is cheese, tulips and marijuana. THE NETHERLANDS IS OFFSHORE. Is it really difficult to google for the location of the main legal addresses of many large companies (by the way, not only the Russian Federation). In metal, coal, ore and the rest......not even 15 Onishchenko will not find harmful bacteria.
      After the SUCCESS of Russian diplomacy in Syria, “random” attacks on the territory of embassies by mines, shells, provocations and other oddities became strangely more frequent.
      Is there such a fuss about Greenpeace's steamboat? don't make my hooves laugh. In France, valiant patriots blew it up. By analogy, the Geyllanders should have at least imprisoned the Minister of Foreign Affairs. Moreover, straight to the Bastille.
      It’s just that our mutual “friends” from the Washington Regional Committee politely asked our colleagues from Europe (by the way, all these conventions were adopted in The Hague) to slightly spoil the holiday for the Russian Foreign Ministry. What a subtle hint. I think the diplomats understood the twisted humor very well. I hope for an adequate response from the GREAT POWER - RUSSIA,
      And lastly, does the flag of this gay state resemble something??!!

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