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"ALPHA" and "VIMPEL" on the edge of the civil war

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"ALPHA" and "VIMPEL" on the edge of the civil war

State Security Forces Special Forces were ordered to take the White House by storm. The commanders of "Alpha" and "Vympel" refused to fulfill the order of President Boris Yeltsin



Living in the Soviet Union, we perceived the concept of “civil war” in the abstract. Read in the books, seen in the movies. Naturally, in the form in which it was presented by a particular writer or director, as was played by the actors. But to see firsthand, look into her eyes - this was not necessary.

The events of the Moscow “hot autumn” 1993 of the year made it possible, albeit to a small extent, to understand how a civil war is a disaster for the country and the people. Cruel and bloody strife. Road to nowhere".

In all honesty, I can say it out of spirit: the decision made by the senior officers of Group A of 4 of October 1993 of the year was the only right decision in that extremely difficult, dramatic situation. We literally walked along the razor's edge.

Fulfill the "Alpha" and "Pennant" order of Boris Yeltsin, and we would not only get the charred White House, which worked Tanks direct fire, but also hundreds of dead, including members of parliament and leading Russian politicians. The consequences for our country would be fatal and unpredictable.


In destiny, probably, everyone is a fork in the road, when, under the pressure of circumstances, it is necessary to make the main, fundamental choice, perhaps, of his whole life. Years, and it happens, and decades can be lived without revealing its deep essence, - and only at the moments of critical testing it becomes suddenly very clear what a person really is. A person, team or country.

In that plague-like October on the streets of Moscow, some Russian citizens killed others. Let me remind you that back in August, President Yeltsin threatened to arrange for the opposition a “hot autumn” - and it really stood out that way. As promised. Later, fierce clashes with demonstrators and armed clashes would be called "local civil war." Beautiful "book" definition, true in its essence.

So the historian writes, so the political scientist will say. But those who happened to be direct participants in these events will always remember the high human price paid by the country for the unwillingness of “real” politicians to solve the matter with the world.

The order of the president, I want to emphasize this, was executed, but in my own way. They wanted blood from the opposition from us, but we did not become punitive. There were, however, dissatisfied and among the defenders of the House of Soviets, who said: “The Alpha did not have the courage to take the side of the people. Thank you also for the fact that they did not become his executioners ... ”This, of course, is an extreme point of view.

There was no unity in Russian society itself, which had survived the collapse of the Union, and then the shock therapy of Yegor Gaidar and his liberal team: some tore at B. N. Yeltsin’s throat, others defended Vice-President A.Rutsky.


About 1700 people, 10 tanks and 20 armored personnel carriers took part in the assault: the crews had to be recruited from five divisions, about half of the entire contingent were officers or junior commanding personnel


And the people? Our people at this time adhered to the eternal principle of everyday life: my hut on the edge. I don’t want to condemn or justify anyone ... Perhaps, it was such a waiting, in fact, position that saved us from a full-scale civil war and the collapse of the country into “red” and “white” regions.

Then two forces clashed in mortal combat, each of which claimed to determine the state development vector in its own way. As usual, ordinary citizens suffered at the same time, who were not claiming anything, but by the will of fate or fulfilling a duty of duty, who were on opposite sides of the barricades.

And still, twenty years later, various numbers of victims are called: from 150 people to almost three thousand, but in any case, we are talking about our compatriots who have become hostages of irresponsible and criminal actions of politicians. Eternal memory to the dead.

NIGHT CALL TO YELTSIN

The mood of the Ministry of Security personnel was such that the officers did not want to participate in the operation against supporters of the Russian parliament. So it was not long to wait for a call on this matter. 4 hours 30 minutes received an order - the commanders of the "Alpha" and "Vympel" (up to the heads of departments, inclusive) urgently come to the president.

About how the events unfolded in Yeltsin’s inner circle, and what, strictly speaking, this urgent challenge was caused, I learned a year later from the book “President’s Notes”.

“About five in the morning,” Yeltsin recalled, “the chiefs of the Main Security Directorate, Mikhail Barsukov, and his first deputy, the security chief of the president, Alexander Korzhakov, came to me and asked me to meet with the officers of the Alpha and Vympel special groups. From their tone, I realized that something was wrong. But he didn’t clarify anything, he immediately said: I don’t have time to meet with them, they have a specific task, let them do it. Barsukov nodded. They went out. It took about half an hour, and Mikhail Ivanovich again asked permission to come to me. When he entered the office, he said: “Boris Nikolayevich, I beg of you, I must meet with them, let's not with the whole group, but at least with the commanders of the units, senior officers. Worried guys, still such a task. After all, they are being sent to the White House for the second time ... ”


In August 1991, the organizers of the Emergency Committee were afraid to shed blood. In October, 1993, Boris Yeltsin and his colleagues decided on extreme measures


The Kremlin looked like a ruined anthill. As always in such cases, it was not without overlays: when we went to the First Corps, we were met by the heads of departments and their deputies from the Kremlin guards, who were pulled off their seats and demanded that Yeltsin.

- We were raised in vain. You have to go there, ”said one of the returning officers.

Early in the morning of October 4 we were taken to the meeting room: an oval table (no one was sitting behind it), rows of chairs along the walls on which the commanders of the security forces settled down, all in all thirty people. People were on edge, exhausted by a long, meaningless wait. Nobody talked to each other, limited to monosyllabic replicas.

I sat down on the edge and prepared to wait. A few minutes passed. Barsukov and Korzhakov proceeded through the hall to the president’s reception. On the move Barsukov threw the commander of "Vympel":

- Dmitry, you will report to the president.

It took another ten minutes. The silence was thickened. Finally, on the threshold of the reception appeared president. It was a different person than the one who came to the Group A field base in the summer of 1992. Tired, gray. Terse. It was felt that he is closed and wary.

After all, it was not only the fate of the state that was decided, but also its fate.

- Comrade president! The officers of “Vympel” and “Alpha” were assembled at your orders, ”said Gerasimov clearly.

Yeltsin sat at the table. He spoke very briefly.


"Terminators" in the "space" areas were not soulless robots, ready to execute any order


- The country has developed a difficult, tense situation. With this you have to stop. In the White House sat a gang, which intends to commit a coup d'etat. It is necessary to free the White House. We must free him from these people. I decided to clean the White House by force. Your units should take part in this. Will you follow the order of the president?

The answer was, as he recalls, "silence, eerie, inexplicable silence of an elite Presidential military unit."

Yeltsin made a minute pause and asked the question differently, with pressure:

- Good. Then I will ask you differently: do you refuse to execute the order of the president?

In response, silence again ...

As I noted at the beginning, we often have to make choices in life. Ultimately, life is the constant (admittedly, not always explicit) choice between Good and Evil, conscience and meanness. I am not a politician, and never wanted to be. The order for me, however, as for any military man who gave the oath, has the force of law. He is not discussed, it is carried out. But to kill people, deputies and simple compatriots - if we reject all the verbal husk, then this was exactly what was commissioned to do, - the Alpha and Vympel officers could not do that. If we were talking about a “simple” operation to neutralize terrorists, then we would not have raised any questions, no objections. Here it was quite another matter.

Later, Yeltsin recalled: “I looked around at all of them - huge, strong, beautiful. Without saying goodbye, I went to the door, telling Barsukov and Zaitsev, the commander of the Alpha, that the order should be executed. ”

“A GROUP DOES NOT WANT TO GO ON A STORM”

In the once sensational book of A. V. Korzhakov “Boris Yeltsin: from dawn to dusk” the position of “Alpha” and “Vympel” is presented in a deliberately biased form. Some facts are perverted or turned inside out. This, for example, is reported in the book of the former head of the Presidential Security Service.

"A little light rang the alarmed Barsukov:

- Listen, Sanya, the commanders from Alpha came to me. They say that the Group does not want to go on the assault. The officers are confused, some believe that everything that happens is unconstitutional. They need the opinion of the Constitutional Court to execute the order (...)

Barsukov and I decided to assemble the commanders of the Alpha divisions in the Security Council Chamber - let the President talk to them personally.


Soldiers-conscripts opposite the barricades, built on the approaches to the White House by its defenders


I had to wake up Boris Nikolayevich. I asked him to shave and look fresher - after all, the night was hard. Having instructed the adjutant to conduct the President to the hall, he came there in advance.

About forty officers gathered. I have met many of them before. Always so smiling, welcoming, now these muscular guys looked at me frowningly, gloomily and wary. I knew that “Alfists” were overwhelmed with doubts, but everyone was afraid to express them aloud.

Soon the president came to the hall. The commander of the "Alpha" commanded:

- Comrades officers!

Yeltsin looked around with an inquisitive gaze:

- Comrades officers, please sit down.

Barsukov warned Yeltsin in advance about the mood of the group. Boris Nikolayevich made a brief speech. But before this stern voice asked the commanders:

- Will you follow the order of the President?

In response, a frightening silence.

The essence of Yeltsin’s three-minute speech was as follows:

- You must fulfill the order. And do not torment yourself with doubts. No reprisals are not subjected.

Having uttered a short monologue, the President withdrew. His mood deteriorated (...)

Then, rewarding participants in the 1993 events of the year, Yeltsin did not mention General Barsukov in any way — he believed that Alpha was the one who led uncertainly because of poor leadership. Although no fault of Mikhail Ivanovich in this was not. The special unit was subordinate to him for several months, and Barsukov did not manage to completely change the psychological climate among the officers (...)

The harsh tone of the President’s speech did not add enthusiasm to the officers. They did not burn with confidence in Boris Nikolayevich and sat with stone faces (...)

Zaitsev grieved me greatly in this situation ... "

What was “a bad psychological climate” for Mr. Korzhakov was the essence of the unit, its moral orientation, which did not allow the officers of Group “A” to turn into executioners of their people.

By the way, to be precise until the end, in the end, Alpha was not dissolved thanks to General Barsukov. No one anywhere wrote about this, but it was he who opposed the disbandment of the unit and, when at some point his arguments were not accepted by Yeltsin, he even wrote a report about his resignation.

ALPHA OFFERS TALKS

Near the House of Soviets, General Barsukov gave me the command to build the personnel of only Group “A”. I built employees in a car. It happened on Konyushkovskaya street. Mikhail Ivanovich spoke to us, and said what I expected from him to hear:

“Now we need to help the president, we need to help him solve this problem,” he urged assertively.

The guys were silent, the system was not moving.

“I ask everyone to make sense of my words,” said Mikhail Ivanovich. “Either you enter the White House and carry out the order, or I will have to sign an order to disband and disarm the unit.”

I, however, thought: “Who will disarm the unit now?”

Barsukov said that now three armored personnel carriers would fit.

- Get ready, who is ready to go to them for a reconnaissance to the White House.

Volunteers were found on all three combat vehicles. Come forward. And before that, Colonel V. V. Rakitin, the head of the headquarters of the division named after F. Dzerzhinsky, approached me, we knew each other, and relayed the radio station:

- Gennady Nikolaevich, she is tuned to the wave of the headquarters of the entire operation.

He called my callsign - "128", as well as the board numbers of the BMP.

In one BMP drove Lieutenant Colonel Vladimir Keleksaev. With a group of employees, he came in from the central entrance of the White House, from the Ukraine Hotel, and carried out his task. And the second BMP - Igor Finogenov, Yuri Torshin and Gennady Sergeyev went into the rear of the White House and began to inspect the position. Around the distance somewhere 50-100 meters everything was blocked by internal troops and soldiers of the Ministry of Defense.


Employees of state security special forces are moving to the White House. October 4 1993 of the year


After a while, Gennady Sergeev was shot dead by a sniper. Later, the pathologist who performed the autopsy was surprised how one could live with such a severe wound for seven minutes. Whether it was a aimed shot or a fatal ricochet, it remained unknown.

There is a version that our unit wanted to provoke in an assault with all the ensuing consequences, but the Alpha officers did not break down, did not get away with emotions. I am deeply convinced that the shot was made not from the House of Soviets, the sniper was outside its walls.

... Talking about the last hours of the Supreme Council, I will cite the testimony of our employee Sergei Kuzmin, as he remembered those events:

- On the eve of the dramatic events in Moscow, I and several of my comrades were singled out the guidelines for work on organized crime. Senior - Lieutenant Colonel Vladimir Ilyich Keleksaev. Considering the complexity of the situation, knowing well what our comrades would have, we left on our own initiative with the unit to the White House.

Among other volunteers left on orders to the parliament building for a reconnaissance. I remember that later, when we reached the ramp in front of the White House, there was a Vympel employee among us. “Do not come, get out of here,” some people shouted from the windows.


Representatives of Group "A" tried to negotiate with the leaders of the Supreme Council on the peaceful surrender, promising security to the defenders - they fulfilled their promise!


We went together to the entrance, Keleksaev and me. They made an improvised white flag ... At the entrance was a police sergeant Sorokin. Explained to him who we are and where we are from. Through the megaphone, he addressed the defenders: “Alpha Group is coming!” ”And suggested that someone come out to meet us.

The first to appear was Albert Makashov in his famous beret. Cossacks from Transnistria gathered in the foyer of the first floor. They behaved, I must say, boldly and defiantly. We appealed to the general to call his subordinates to order. To which he replied that this liberty did not obey him. "This is the Makhnovists," explained Makashov, leaning toward us.

At that moment, the storming of the White House resumed from the side of the Krasnopresnenskaya metro station. We were asked to do everything to stop him. Along the corridors of the building I went to the side from which the most intense shooting was carried out in order to clarify the situation. But to understand what was happening was difficult. However, when the Makhnovists returned, the assault made an impression - they calmed down.

Makashov took us to the meeting room of the Council of Nationalities, where the deputies and other different people were. Introduced themselves: we are employees of the Alpha Special Forces. They voiced the task set before us - to take the White House. They said that they are authorized to negotiate the withdrawal of people from the building under our guarantees.

After that, we were escorted to the third floor, where Rutskoi and Khasbulatov were in one of the rooms. There were men in black uniform. By the way they behaved, it was clear: they are real professionals in military affairs.


Alexander Rutskoi and Ruslan Khasbulatov demanded that the ambassadors of the Western countries ensure their security, but around 18.00 they were arrested and taken to Lefortovo


Entered the office, greeted Rutsky. A bit later Khasbulatov approached, he practically did not participate in the conversation. We again called ourselves, explained the task assigned to the division. Rutskoi did not agree with our arguments. He said that some military units loyal to him were coming here ... And in the end he asked if we could provide him and Khasbulatov with a trip to the US embassy. To this we replied that we could not take an independent decision on this issue - we need to report to the commander.

On this and parted. When they descended to the first floor, the special forces officers had already taken the deputies out of the building. I joined the guys and took part in the “cleansing” of the building, and Vladimir Ilyich went to a report to our leadership, ”concludes S. L. Kuzmin.

THINKING ANY OTHER IS NOT AN ENEMY!

It still seems to me that the political solution to the crisis of the fall of 1993 of the year has not been fully utilized. It was not, I emphasize. This includes the initiative of His Holiness Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Alexy II, who acted as a mediator on behalf of the Church. Perhaps it was here that there was a “fork in the road”, and these negotiations under the auspices of the ROC turned out to be a “missed opportunity” - a way out which the politicians did not take advantage of.

By the way, after all, the Patriarch officially made a statement at the time that the first one to shed blood would be anathema. And who was the "first"? Come - figure it out! I was to blame, I emphasize, both parties to the conflict: some more, others less. And dozens of ordinary people laid their lives who came to parliament to defend their sense of civic dignity. How many young lives have been ruined, how many destinies have been mutilated ...

Within the walls of the Holy Danilov Monastery were difficult, difficult negotiations. And where, I ask, was the president of the country at this time? In the Kremlin ... Why don’t Boris Nikolayevich join the negotiation process? After all, the fate of hundreds of people - our fellow citizens. To be or not to be, to live or not to live. And God knows how it turned. Maybe a breakdown of the negotiations. Irrevocable, final failure. But then the head of state would have the full moral right to declare: "I did everything I could."

4 October 1993 Group A officer Sergei Ilyich Fyodorov and his comrades withdrew nearly four hundred people from the House of Soviets from the Brokeback Bridge.

People were afraid that they would open fire. And then Fedorov left the entrance and removed the armored sphere from his head:

“If someone is to be shot, it’s me, not you, unarmed.”

It seems to me that Sergei Ilyich answered what kind of inner spiritual core allowed the Group “A” to pass along the razor's edge and not fall into the bloody orgy.

In a long-standing interview with our newspaper “Special Forces of Russia”, S. I. Fedorov said: “Then in the Group, men got up — you would break the shaft of your character. Self-esteem, professionalism, courage - with an understanding of who they are and what they are. We were allowed a lot, we had extensive information. When we carried out the combat mission, the police and the army stood in the cordon. We often worked with the top officials of the state - could we have been able to make average demands on us, even to give some kind of slack?

In general, I believe that the operation in the White House is one of the most difficult after the storming of the palace of Amin, Beslan, Nord-Ost, Budyonnovsk and Pervomaisky. She showed the world that special forces were not cutthroats who were ready to carry out any order of any government. And the death of Gena Sergeeva was a high price for the fact that many and many did not die then. After all, we could take the White House by storm. That's just human blood - not water ... "

In the most difficult situation, when, it seemed, there was no choice, the employees of Group “A” were able to save people (remember, this is its main purpose, for this purpose, it was created by Yu. V. Andropov) and save its face. Some politicians didn’t like that this face was human.


Snipers from a skyscraper opened fire on the defenders of the Supreme Council, the military and Muscovites who were nearby, who came to watch the war


An exceptionally positive role in resolving the crisis of October 4 was played by the senior officers of Group A, Alexander Ivanovich Miroshnichenko, my deputy, now he is a colonel general; Vladimir Ilyich Keleksaev, Mikhail Petrovich Maximov, Anatoly Ivanovich Grechishnikov, Yuri Viktorovich Demin, Vitaly Nikolaevich Demidkin and Igor Feliksovich Finogenov.

In 1994, Attorney General Alexey Kazannik, who made the decision to amnesty the leaders and active participants in the defense of the House of Soviets, explained on the pages of the Delovoy Mir newspaper: “Having interrogated a thousand servicemen, we received the following evidence: no peace talks between 3 and October 4 was not conducted - the order was given to storm immediately ... In the pause between the happened 3 and what happened on October 4, no one warned the people who remained in the White House about the beginning of the shelling and the ma, that is, evidence of conducting any negotiations there. Consequently, the events of October 4 must be qualified as a crime committed on the basis of revenge, in a manner dangerous to the life of many, out of base motives. ”

After the defeat of parliament, “a small victorious war” in the North Caucasus seemed to Yeltsin and his entourage an easy decision, the best way to raise a fallen rating. So from October Moscow 1993-th tanks entered Grozny on New Year's Eve 31 December 1994-th. It was from that “hot autumn” that we began to live in a belligerent country.

If we talk about the fundamental consequences of the execution of the House of Soviets, the system of government has changed significantly. Russia became a presidential republic, in which the role of parliament was devalued. In addition, the forces that opposed the so-called “shock therapy” were defeated - accelerated “reforms”, which subsequently led to a collapse in the standard of living of the population, an economic crisis, the surrender of a number of geopolitical positions and many other negative consequences that are still felt.

In a recent television shoot in the summer of 1994, historian Mikhail Gefter, in conversation with a critic Lev Annensky, said: “Keep up with the Alpha Group. To people who saw October as a double insignia: they, like no one, wore the knowledge of death, they refused to obey the order to kill. “Follow the Alpha Group!” - it summarizes and does historical the experience of those who, by choice of action, with their officer refusal to kill, opened the door to the central problem of Russian consciousness, closed by wisdom and politicking: thinking otherwise is not an enemy to be destroyed, he is a fellow citizen and a brother. ”

With these words, I want to complete the story about the events of October 1993.

Zaitsev Gennady Nikolaevich, Group A Commander in 1977-1988 and 1992-1995. Hero of the Soviet Union, retired Major General. President of the Security Agency "Alpha-95".


He was awarded the Order for Services to the Fatherland, IV degree, Lenin, the Red Banner, the Red Banner of Labor, the Red Star (twice), and many medals. Honorary State Security Officer.

In 2006-2008, he is a member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation. Winner of the International Prize of Andrew the First-Called "For Faith and Loyalty", the literary prize "Russia Loyal Sons" named after Alexander Nevsky, the Stroganov Prize. The author of the book “Alpha” is my destiny. ”

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  1. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 10 October 2013 08: 06 New
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    Yeltsin had to be taken by storm.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 10 October 2013 08: 28 New
      17
      Attracting the fighters of the anti-terrorist detachment to participate in internal political squabbles is the height of cynicism and irresponsibility. A shame.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 10 October 2013 09: 52 New
        +7
        Snipers from a skyscraper opened fire on the defenders of the Supreme Council, the military and Muscovites who were nearby, who came to watch the war

        In fact, snipers shot at those and others. Well-designed provocation. Is fecit cui prodest ... And I don’t understand why, after so many years, when everyone became aware of the true culprits of this tragedy, our government is bashfully silent, not exposing them? Why is everyone's beloved GDP afraid to dot the i? Here it is, a litmus test.
        1. kostya_a
          kostya_a 10 October 2013 12: 04 New
          11
          Because Yeltsin’s team is still alive in the Kremlin. It’s dangerous to put dots over i!
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 10 October 2013 12: 37 New
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            Quote: kostya_a
            Because Yeltsin’s team is still alive in the Kremlin. It’s dangerous to put dots over i!

            Especially when you are part of it. He himself sits on this bitch, and therefore does not saw.
            1. kostya_a
              kostya_a 10 October 2013 12: 56 New
              -2
              I do not agree!
        2. vpimen2010
          vpimen2010 10 October 2013 23: 58 New
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          The State Duma was frightened of the results of the criminal investigation, since the Communists were also the organizers and participants of the coup d'etat. Therefore, in February 1994, the State Duma, and then there was a majority of the communists, announced an amnesty and terminated the investigation. Yeltsin was against it.
        3. Hammer
          Hammer 11 October 2013 07: 52 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72

          In fact, snipers shot at those and others. Well-designed provocation. Is fecit cui prodest ... And I don’t understand why, after so many years, when everyone became aware of the true culprits of this tragedy, our government is bashfully silent, not exposing them? Why is everyone's beloved GDP afraid to dot the i? Here it is, a litmus test.


          Well, yes, let's get this dirty laundry out! Not only are we on ourselves and the country as a whole .. it was poured! You need to add a couple more tubs!
          So what?! Let’s once again divide society on a political basis, add peppercorns, so to speak, to our political and social life. And then in Russia, then quiet and grace, boredom directly and our society is simply a monolith. Yes?! And then maybe repeat 1993?
          Who in FIG needs these points above and? Who in the subject understands who is right and who is to blame. And whoever doesn’t know, so much the hell for that.
          And now the authorities begin to "set the point" - is to rock a political boat inside the country, i.e. pouring water to the mill of enemies of Russia. We (Russia) in general, and the GDP in particular, have problems right up to their throats, both internal and external, in order to do this.
          And rightly so, that does not place. This is not his thing. Let historians do this, and maybe lawyers if necessary.
      2. vpimen2010
        vpimen2010 10 October 2013 23: 51 New
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        You have written many beautiful letters. I agree with many.
        And where to get other forces, and did Yeltsin then possess all the specific information about the mission of the Alpha group, although he correctly understood that a gang of terrorists had settled in the White House.
        Yeltsin ordered to kill people, deputies? No! Did Yeltsin order a bloody assault on the Belodomites? No!
        If we discard all the verbal husks, then the respected Gennady Nikolayevich and the leadership of Alpha at the genetic level understood the execution of the order “to clean by force” only as the destruction of people, they taught this very life. They didn’t imagine another option, it appeared in the process of fulfilling the order . They "cleaned the building by the power" of their authority and by the power of persuasion. And for them, this also became a lesson and stage of development. And they can be understood, initially they were trained and trained as wolfhounds to fight a clear enemy. Well, they could not see the enemy of Russia in a man in general uniform and with a hero star, they could not !! And this must be understood.
        Were there a battalion of “fur seals”, they would be torn in one minute and with pleasure.
        There was Yeltsin’s order "to cleanse the house of a gang intended to carry out a coup." I decided to clean the White House by force. ", Said the president on the morning of October 4, after a gang killed a policeman at the city hall in the afternoon and evening of October 03, organized an armed assault on the city hall, and then Ostankino, which killed 146 people. From that moment the Belodomites turned into terrorists! But it wasn’t the fault, but the misfortune of the Alfovites that they couldn’t understand it, the events of August 1991 were still crushing them. White House beliefs from the gang "intentional coup.! and add, trying to commit it ..
        It is only necessary to declare that the government must have at its disposal specially trained fighters to eliminate political conspiracies, provocations and revolutions. If Emperor Nicholas II had such a prepared patriotic fighting force that could strangle the Fatherland’s political enemies in the bud: Blankov-Ulyanovs, Bronstein-Trotsky, there wouldn’t have been revolutions of the murders of the drunken sailor of their own commanders, they wouldn’t have drowned the popov’s children in the outhouse, wouldn’t have destroyed the temples There would be no civil war and the deaths of tens of millions of Russian citizens.
        We’ll soon see who and how will “clean up” the streets of US cities by force, we will learn to observe the democratic executions of enemies of the Amer’s government and their regime.
      3. 225chay
        225chay 11 October 2013 08: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: xetai9977
        Attracting the fighters of the anti-terrorist detachment to participate in internal political squabbles is the height of cynicism and irresponsibility. A shame.

        it is not cynicism and shame. this is a crime of the century whose author has a F&O
    2. Orik
      Orik 10 October 2013 09: 27 New
      +4
      So they could eliminate him at a meeting, along with a cake and a badger.
      1. vpimen2010
        vpimen2010 11 October 2013 00: 03 New
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        This could be done by people like you. Alphovtsy officers and people of honor! So disgust is disgusting.
  2. erased
    erased 10 October 2013 09: 13 New
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    Oh and it was fun then! No one had really departed from the shock of the collapse of the Power; everyone shied from one extreme to the other. Group "A" of the 7th Directorate (and not Alpha) and the group "Vympel" of the 1st Directorate (later SVR) did not really allow a big massacre in the building of the Supreme Council. But there was a massacre on the streets of Moscow. And it’s very interesting when the investigation of the causes of the massacre will be carried out, the instigators, performers, the very “left” snipers and their owners were identified. After all, there is no statute of limitations for these crimes.
    Or the current government does not want to find the truth?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 10 October 2013 09: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: erased
      Or the current government does not want to find the truth?

      The scrotum is weak. laughing
    2. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 10 October 2013 10: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: erased
      Or the current government does not want to find the truth?


      So nobody needs it either. It was a "dope" similar dope on a booze!

      Ambition leaped above the roof. Inappropriate behavior for which a decent person is ashamed of the rest of his life.

      What is the truth here to look for? everything is clear.
      1. erased
        erased 10 October 2013 11: 43 New
        +6
        What and who understands? What does impunity rule?
  3. Nickanor
    Nickanor 10 October 2013 09: 39 New
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    Honor and Glory to our Special Forces!
    And Yeltsin is a criminal who needed to be judged!
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto 10 October 2013 09: 39 New
    12
    “Alpha” had to knit both those and others. That Yeltsin, that Khasbulatov and Gaidar were worth each other.
  5. Zheka Varangian
    Zheka Varangian 10 October 2013 09: 54 New
    12
    Quote: Boot under the carpet
    Yeltsin had to be taken by storm.

    Yes, they are all good. Rutskoi in our Kursk region. he was the thief’s governor! It’s a pity for ordinary people who perished and wounded because of the selfish interests of those in power. And Alpha and Pennant are the pride of our country!
  6. sincman
    sincman 10 October 2013 10: 08 New
    +4
    An excellent film about the events of October 1993 in addition to the article. Who has not seen, it will be interesting.
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 00: 10 New
      -2
      NTV owned by the seven-banker oligarch Gusinsky? And what is interesting can people with no elementary knowledge, such masters of misinformation as "you", be able to remove and show to the gullible people? To provoke a new fratricide?
      And the Congress was on the side of Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin, which the army confirmed by fulfilling the order of the Commander-in-Chief of Yeltsin. And who is Shurik Av Rutsky? Maybe a politician? I do not know this. Maybe a commander? Also no one had heard of him.
      In my opinion it is, according to the Hamburg account, a traitor:
      - He left the Communists, split their single faction, created his own: “Communists for Democracy,” that is, betrayed his party comrades;
      - betrayed Yeltsin, who made the vice president out of a simple deputy;
      - betrayed his Supreme Commander, who awarded him the rank of general, i.e. the commander who handed him a star on general's epaulettes;
      - betrayed the voters who voted for Yeltsin and who was chosen by him as an assistant to the previously unknown mustached colonel Colonel Avutsky;
      - betrayed his comrades-in-arms, urging them to betray: bomb the Kremlin and their Supreme Commander, who is there; not a single officer in the world descended to such baseness. Judah, he was not an officer.
      - betrayed the homeland, ordering the people who believed him to storm the city hall and the television center, i.e. to kill their compatriots, other citizens and voters of Russia, and thereby began a civil war in the country, something that the enemies of Russia have always sought. On his hands is the blood of defrauded and killed military, civil and police officers, citizens of the country. Our country. Even the corporal would have realized that he would not commit so many betrayals and villainies made by Avrutsky.
      I can’t forget the words of Alexander Vasilievich Korzhakov about this type: “Generals do not surrender three times.”
      It is said about him. And what he did is like a stigma. Forever.
      Traitor - forever a traitor!
    2. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 00: 18 New
      -2
      Dogon: NTV, owned by the seven-banker-oligarch Gusinsky? And what is interesting can people with no elementary knowledge, such masters of misinformation as "you", be able to remove and show to the gullible people? To provoke a new fratricide?
      And the Congress was on the side of Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin, which the army confirmed by fulfilling the order of the Commander-in-Chief of Yeltsin. And who is Shurik Av Rutsky? Maybe a politician? I do not know this. Maybe a commander? Also no one had heard of him.
      In my opinion it is, according to the Hamburg account, a traitor:
      - He left the Communists, split their single faction, created his own: “Communists for Democracy,” that is, betrayed his party comrades;
      - betrayed Yeltsin, who made the vice president out of a simple deputy;
      - betrayed his Supreme Commander, who awarded him the rank of general, i.e. the commander who handed him a star on general's epaulettes;
      - betrayed the voters who voted for Yeltsin and who was chosen by him as an assistant to the previously unknown mustached colonel Colonel Avutsky;
      - betrayed his comrades-in-arms, urging them to betray: bomb the Kremlin and their Supreme Commander, who is there; not a single officer in the world descended to such baseness. Judah, he was not an officer.
      - betrayed the homeland, ordering the people who believed him to storm the city hall and the television center, i.e. to kill their compatriots, other citizens and voters of Russia, and thereby began a civil war in the country, something that the enemies of Russia have always sought. On his hands is the blood of defrauded and killed military, civil and police officers, citizens of the country. Our country. Even the corporal would have realized that he would not commit so many betrayals and villainies made by Avrutsky.
      I can’t forget the words of Alexander Vasilievich Korzhakov about this type: “Generals do not surrender three times.”
      It is said about him. And what he did is like a stigma. Forever.
      Traitor - forever a traitor!
    3. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 02: 17 New
      -4
      A few words about this agitation of the White House.
      1. The prisoner said that the shooting began without and before negotiations. Whose shooting, on whose side? On the afternoon of October 3, when a sniper from the White House killed the senior police lieutenant Alexander Boyko before my eyes? Yes, he was not invited to negotiations, but was simply killed by a direct hit of a professional sniper bullet in his left ear. Alexander Braginsky must have been negotiating when he was tortured and trampled in the office of Av Rutskoi, and he was going to have lunch with his mother when they burst into the city hall looters and rioters. As A. Nevzorov said: "Traditional general’s idiocy and I ended up among this shobla."
      2. Already wrote that the looters plundered and drank all the alcohol from 3 restaurants and 7 buffets of the City Hall and the Mir Hotel, and the drunk went to storm Ostankino, in this film a television center employee confirmed that they were stormed by drunk armed attack aircraft.
      3. Marat Musin constantly repeats that 18 armed men were going to Ostankino, the rest, as he said, were without weapons. In the film, Shurygin let slip and said part of the truth: "Several dozen armed people went to Ostankino." How much is “several tens” ?, he modestly does not specify. The senior investigator, prosecutors Leonid Proshkin bluntly stated that 962 machine guns and machine guns were seized from the rebels during the investigation.
      When 11 trucks and buses, by order of Av Rutskoi, went to storm Ostankino, I personally saw several hundred armed men sitting in these cars.
      3. Why, blaming foreigners for participating on the side of Yeltsin and the authorities in the tragedy of 1993, no one explains the reason why several dozen Barkashovites flew by direct flight to the Netherlands on the evening of October 4, waiting for their plane, where, upon arrival, there were minibuses waiting for them from diplomatic numbers of France, Germany, Holland and other NATO countries? What is personally reported on the TV camera Barkashov. What NATO intelligence services carried out an operation to foment a civil war in Russia, followed by a landing of NATO troops to protect the missile launch mines and the collapse of the country according to the variant of Yugoslavia? Glory to Yeltsin, Korzhakov, Alpha, the officers and soldiers who "crushed the reptile", ready to mortally bite and destroy Russia.
      5. The film cannot be objective, where the main persons, employees of the newspaper Den, Fursov and Shurygin. Some of the participants in the bloody events still see television footage of protesters with the banner Movement Day rushing towards the rebels of the White House. It’s another thing that they remember a little and those who know, but there are many liars and crafty verbiage. Even Av Rutsky is now a hero of the TV screen. She will crush people who don’t know their story ...
  7. yurii p
    yurii p 10 October 2013 10: 36 New
    +4
    "And the people? Our people at that time adhered to the eternal life principle: my hut is on the edge. I do not want to condemn or justify anyone ..." ---- and who asks the opinion of the people now, and even more so, remember at least a referendum on preserving the USSR , with these forms, Yeltsin and his gang shut up the people, the country won’t overcome the echoes of those events, because the Yeltsin’s gang members still rule the country (Voloshin, Chubais Kiriyenko, etc.) and most importantly we sponsor them, through Gazprom, look who is sitting there, this is their headquarters, so they all screamed when Putin announced the freezing of tariffs, it’s a blow to their economic viability, work is ongoing, it remains to strangle Medvedev with his Gazprom government, and I hope that the situation in the country will improve at least for a bit, at least the situation of Serdyuk and his harem, for which there is a place in the mines, in the tundra, will not be repeated.
  8. saag
    saag 10 October 2013 10: 53 New
    0
    the times when the capital garrisons brought power to Elizabeth, Catherine, Nicholas 1, Lenin, finally, alas, have sunk into oblivion, those people deserve much more respect, because in the event of failure they were simply threatened with death, not resignation, but they decided on it every time Russia made a breakthrough in its development
  9. krpmlws
    krpmlws 10 October 2013 11: 03 New
    +8
    In 91g, the Alfovites violated the oath directly and frankly, betrayed the USSR, supported Yeltsin. In 93g they went along the beaten track, for they could ask: “what did you do in 91g?” So they had no choice, the stigma was in a cannon. It should be a shame to wear the rank of military oath swearing and violating it, then to wear high orders, write false articles.
    1. sapsan14
      sapsan14 10 October 2013 14: 15 New
      0
      Good afternoon!
      There is a commander, there are fighters (albeit officers). One-man management. Order. A lot of everything. Nobody supported Yeltsin at that time and did not violate the oath. At that time, the leadership should have had a will. She was gone. For what reason is the question.
      And Yeltsin’s “love” for “A” and “B” is a reorganization of these units and hundreds of officers who left. Unfortunately, even now, the Center is a slight resemblance to office controls. The guys try not sparing themselves, but the system is not the same.
      1. krpmlws
        krpmlws 10 October 2013 16: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: sapsan14
        Good afternoon!
        There is a commander, there are fighters (albeit officers). One-man management. Order. A lot of everything. Nobody supported Yeltsin at that time and did not violate the oath.

        One-man management, order — all this rhetoric is now being used for self-justification; there is still an oath, duty, law, national interests, and conscience. Alfa in 91g took the side of Yeltsin and defended the White House.
  10. dmb
    dmb 10 October 2013 12: 09 New
    +8
    It would be better if he did not write. Honor and Glory to him and his people for all the previous and subsequent, but this page is shameful, and it is better not to talk about the Oath here. They swear allegiance once and not to the leader, but to the people.
  11. v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 10 October 2013 13: 31 New
    -2
    Alpha and Pennant - real men, real Russian officers. Condemning sitting in a chair in front of a computer is easy. And they squeezed the maximum according to the situation, it seems like you can’t say that they did not follow the order, and they were actually soldiers, but they also did without blood.
  12. Letterksi
    Letterksi 10 October 2013 14: 59 New
    +3
    And yet, Alpha went against the constitution, it would be necessary to negotiate with the White House too. And only then choose the side. But history does not know the subjunctive mood. October 1993 will be a long day for many, not only for Alpha, a memorable day. I hope the next time (and he will definitely come) Alpha will work correctly, because the truth is always the same. And if there are many truths, then this is tolerance
    1. DuraLexSedLex.
      DuraLexSedLex. 10 October 2013 15: 50 New
      +1
      The next time they work. already as they are told, and there will not be these attempts here about bloodlessness, about negotiations.
      1. vpimen2010
        vpimen2010 11 October 2013 02: 57 New
        -3
        And this is the only true one. They see that everything is done for the Motherland and the people. Not all at once, but with the accumulation of strength. And that the people and the president rely on them and the Airborne Forces Glory to the soldiers of the Fatherland!
    2. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 13 October 2013 11: 16 New
      0
      What is the Constitution for the warrior, and what is the order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, the President of Russia? As soon as the warrior begins to reflect on what is more important, he, the army and the country have already lost. The order is always and immediately executed, I repeat, the Order is above all, and therefore He is above everything else !! And always!
  13. SLAVA
    SLAVA 10 October 2013 15: 27 New
    0
    In the fourth photo with a stretcher in the foreground, isn’t bulk-oval drawn ???
  14. yastr
    yastr 10 October 2013 16: 22 New
    +1
    Why are you doing this? Do not offend people in vain.
  15. fero
    fero 10 October 2013 18: 35 New
    +2
    We changed the parliamentary republic to a presidential one (according to the Constitution) ... we still disentangle it, it will remain for our grandchildren.
  16. xomaNN
    xomaNN 10 October 2013 18: 36 New
    0
    The fact that these pros in military affairs had a clear moral core IN YOUR PEOPLE SHOULD NOT SHOOT I am very impressed. And the fact that the USSR and the Russian Federation at the break of 80-90xx went to the leaders of 2 different but bad leaders of the state is a fact of recent history.
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 03: 13 New
      0
      But what if, after the bloodshed and the failed coup, dozens of people of this nation fly away, on a specially waiting plane for them to Holland ?? Mal-Mal shot Russian citizens and flew away with impunity. Is it YOUR PEOPLE? IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SHOOT IN IT ALSO ?, but it is possible for them in us? And why then Alpha and special forces? To protect the people shooting at us or to protect the people that these scum from the people kill. How can they save by dying themselves, Alpha showed, dying in Beslan, Pervomaisky, Dubrovka, etc., that we know what we remember, the rest of their exploits are a mystery ... A bow and eternal memory to them!
      Homeland and people are proud of YOU, COMRADE OFFICERS!
  17. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 10 October 2013 18: 36 New
    +4
    Everything is interconnected. In 91 and 93, the army and specialists did not fulfill their duty to preserve the country, but even took a direct part in the Yeltsin Sabbath and received it. The specialists were dispersed and scored loyal, and the army washed itself with blood in the Caucasus.
  18. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 10 October 2013 18: 36 New
    +1
    Everything is interconnected. In 91 and 93, the army and specialists did not fulfill their duty to preserve the country, but even took a direct part in the Yeltsin Sabbath and received it. The specialists were dispersed and scored loyal, and the army washed itself with blood in the Caucasus.
  19. Megatron
    Megatron 10 October 2013 18: 37 New
    +5
    Pennant supported EBN, so for me they are traitors!
  20. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 10 October 2013 19: 56 New
    +2
    The events of those years are associated with the burning of the Reichstag.
    1. waisson
      waisson 10 October 2013 20: 33 New
      0
      then we didn’t let the small Reichstag in the city of Saratov live in it, and the police and RACOVLDOVY stayed at home waiting, thanks to local grandmothers, they fed us then because we could not leave the building, otherwise it would be burned because it was empty without security, everyone was waiting for someone to come red or white
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 10 October 2013 20: 46 New
        0
        Quote: waisson
        ... everyone was waiting for someone to come red or white


        Alas! White came.
        Alpha and Pennant. They had a difficult choice. Two feelings fought in them: the duty of the military to obey orders and civic consciousness. The first was won.
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  23. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 10 October 2013 20: 43 New
    0
    come to stare at the war ... One cannot "stare" at a war ...
  24. jjj
    jjj 11 October 2013 00: 20 New
    -2
    So far, little truth has been revealed about Boris Nikolaevich. Who and how brought him to power? Who supported?
    By 1993 year. I think that if they didn’t shoot at the White House, Russia would no longer be there. Since personifying Ruslan Imranovich as an exponent of the aspirations of the Russian people is somehow strange. Yes, and then we saw him among the excessively bearded faces. In 1991, ordinary people really stood up to defend the White House. But they didn’t come to 1993. There were those who had their hands scratched by blood. But these are not the masses at all. And the coup failed. Curious passage: the 1993 coup dealers asked precisely foreign diplomats to ensure their safety.
    And another detail for thought: after the 1993, Boris Nikolayevich became much more accommodating with the West. True, it was then shortened by the Chechen war.
    But with Vladimir Vladimirovich this number did not work.
    Dmitry Anatolyevich felt the Georgian mess. But only, as the song says, the more holy and trusting Rus came out of the fire
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 02: 52 New
      -2
      Well said! Be healthy, homo sapiens!
    2. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 02: 53 New
      -2
      Well said! Be healthy, homo sapiens!
  25. Ols76
    Ols76 11 October 2013 07: 20 New
    +3
    Just a Shame, Yeltsin must be judged!
  26. Ols76
    Ols76 11 October 2013 07: 26 New
    0
    One of the shortest and at the same time the best films about the events of October 1993.



    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 12: 40 New
      -2
      Opinion on the films of S. Govorukhin and Fursov.
      1. The next and documentary exposure of lies and falsification in the film of Fursov and Shurygin, was presented by Stanislav Govorukhin in the film "Hour of villains." A few words about the film.
      1. Fursov and other Belodomites claim that everywhere there were special forces traps and ambushes for Yeltsin to kill peaceful demonstrators. The shots of the Vityaz special forces APCs overcoming concrete blocks in a crowd of protesters indicate the opposite. The ambush and the Belodomov attack aircraft arrived at the television center almost simultaneously and no one was preparing an ambush.
      In one of the telecasts, 3-4 days after these events, the commander of the Vityaz detachment, Sergei Ivanovich Lysyuk, said that he apologized to the Muscovites whose vehicles were damaged by his armored personnel carriers, as they received an order to immediately arrive and protect the television center. saying they didn’t always observe traffic rules and traffic signals and arrived in Ostankino, together with the rebel cars
      2. “A young man is being killed before our eyes ..” says S. Govorukhin, the implication is that the television center’s defenders are killing a middle-aged man. Or maybe it’s a bullet of one of the attackers?
      3. On the number of weapons. Take a look at the rebels jumping out of the truck body, each OMON shield and assault rifle, take a closer look at the frames of the ram of the truck doors of the telecentre, everyone is armed with assault rifles. They were officially confirmed by the investigation of 962 machine guns and assault rifles in the White House.
      4.Night, the shooting of hundreds of armed men storming the telecentre and they are opposed by 60-80 commandos and several of their armored personnel carriers. It is obliged to comply with the order to protect the telecentre and your life, open fire on everything that moves and in places of possible accumulation of force (parks, squares, spyder towers ) The special forces were trained in this and he was obliged to do this and he did it, his work is like that. Who at the time of the assault checks the assault documents and the presence of weapons?
      Do not go near the object, which is ordered to guard the special forces! Now the whole country knows, but they paid for it, by order of Av Rutsky and Makashov, with the lives of 146 of its citizens
      5. The correct title of the film "Hour of villains", it only started from the first minute of the assault on the mayor’s office and the assassination of Alexander Boyko and the torture of Alexander Braginsky, with shouts from the White House, when Shurik Av Rutsky and Makashov and Khasbkulatov and Ampilov ordered to storm Ostankino. their “not Hour of scoundrels, and the life of scum”, a lifelong “cycle with nails”, or rather, “Survival of scoundrels.” Some are drunk, others are “stoned” with drugs, those who know who I am talking about.
    2. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 12: 44 New
      -3
      Opinion on the films of S. Govorukhin and Fursov.
      1. The next and documentary exposure of lies and falsification in the film of Fursov and Shurygin, was presented by Stanislav Govorukhin in the film "Hour of villains." A few words about the film.
      1. Fursov and other Belodomites claim that everywhere there were special forces traps and ambushes for Yeltsin to kill peaceful demonstrators. The shots of the Vityaz special forces APCs overcoming concrete blocks in a crowd of protesters indicate the opposite. The ambush and the Belodomov attack aircraft arrived at the television center almost simultaneously and no one was preparing an ambush.
      In one of the telecasts, 3-4 days after these events, the commander of the Vityaz detachment, Sergei Ivanovich Lysyuk, said that he apologized to the Muscovites whose vehicles were damaged by his armored personnel carriers, as they received an order to immediately arrive and protect the television center. saying they didn’t always observe traffic rules and traffic signals and arrived in Ostankino, together with the rebel cars
      2. “A young man is being killed before our eyes ..” says S. Govorukhin, the implication is that the television center’s defenders are killing a middle-aged man. Or maybe it’s a bullet of one of the attackers?
      3. On the number of weapons. Take a look at the rebels jumping out of the truck body, each OMON shield and assault rifle, take a closer look at the frames of the ram of the truck doors of the telecentre, everyone is armed with assault rifles. They were officially confirmed by the investigation of 962 machine guns and assault rifles in the White House.
      4.Night, the shooting of hundreds of armed men storming the telecentre and they are opposed by 60-80 commandos and several of their armored personnel carriers. It is obliged to comply with the order to protect the telecentre and your life, open fire on everything that moves and in places of possible accumulation of force (parks, squares, spyder towers ) The special forces were trained in this and he was obliged to do this and he did it, his work is like that. Who at the time of the assault checks the assault documents and the presence of weapons?
      Do not go near the object, which is ordered to guard the special forces! Now the whole country knows, but they paid for it, by order of Av Rutsky and Makashov, with the lives of 146 of its citizens
      5. The correct title of the film "Hour of villains", it only started from the first minute of the assault on the mayor’s office and the assassination of Alexander Boyko and the torture of Alexander Braginsky, with shouts from the White House, when Shurik Av Rutsky and Makashov and Khasbkulatov and Ampilov ordered to storm Ostankino. their “not Hour of scoundrels, and the life of scum”, a lifelong “cycle with nails”, or rather, “Survival of scoundrels.” Some are drunk, others are “stoned” with drugs, those who know who I am talking about.
    3. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 12: 44 New
      -1
      Opinion on the films of S. Govorukhin and Fursov.
      1. The next and documentary exposure of lies and falsification in the film of Fursov and Shurygin, was presented by Stanislav Govorukhin in the film "Hour of villains." A few words about the film.
      1. Fursov and other Belodomites claim that everywhere there were special forces traps and ambushes for Yeltsin to kill peaceful demonstrators. The shots of the Vityaz special forces APCs overcoming concrete blocks in a crowd of protesters indicate the opposite. The ambush and the Belodomov attack aircraft arrived at the television center almost simultaneously and no one was preparing an ambush.
      In one of the telecasts, 3-4 days after these events, the commander of the Vityaz detachment, Sergei Ivanovich Lysyuk, said that he apologized to the Muscovites whose vehicles were damaged by his armored personnel carriers, as they received an order to immediately arrive and protect the television center. saying they didn’t always observe traffic rules and traffic signals and arrived in Ostankino, together with the rebel cars
      2. “A young man is being killed before our eyes ..” says S. Govorukhin, the implication is that the television center’s defenders are killing a middle-aged man. Or maybe it’s a bullet of one of the attackers?
      3. On the number of weapons. Take a look at the rebels jumping out of the truck body, each OMON shield and assault rifle, take a closer look at the frames of the ram of the truck doors of the telecentre, everyone is armed with assault rifles. They were officially confirmed by the investigation of 962 machine guns and assault rifles in the White House.
      4.Night, the shooting of hundreds of armed men storming the telecentre and they are opposed by 60-80 commandos and several of their armored personnel carriers. It is obliged to comply with the order to protect the telecentre and your life, open fire on everything that moves and in places of possible accumulation of force (parks, squares, spyder towers ) The special forces were trained in this and he was obliged to do this and he did it, his work is like that. Who at the time of the assault checks the assault documents and the presence of weapons?
      Do not go near the object, which is ordered to guard the special forces! Now the whole country knows, but they paid for it, by order of Av Rutsky and Makashov, with the lives of 146 of its citizens
      5. The correct title of the film "Hour of villains", it only started from the first minute of the assault on the mayor’s office and the assassination of Alexander Boyko and the torture of Alexander Braginsky, with shouts from the White House, when Shurik Av Rutsky and Makashov and Khasbkulatov and Ampilov ordered to storm Ostankino. their “not Hour of scoundrels, and the life of scum”, a lifelong “cycle with nails”, or rather, “Survival of scoundrels.” Some are drunk, others are “stoned” with drugs, those who know who I am talking about.
    4. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 11 October 2013 12: 55 New
      -1
      It is interesting to compare and analyze these two films: S. Govorukhin’s film and Fursov’s film. With their lies, each exposes the other.
      1. The next and documentary exposure of lies and falsification in the film of Fursov and Shurygin, was presented by Stanislav Govorukhin in the film "Hour of villains." A few words about the film.
      1. Fursov and other Belodomites claim that everywhere there were special forces traps and ambushes for Yeltsin to kill peaceful demonstrators. The shots of the Vityaz special forces APCs overcoming concrete blocks in a crowd of protesters indicate the opposite. The ambush and the Belodomov attack aircraft arrived at the television center almost simultaneously and no one was preparing an ambush.
      In one of the telecasts, 3-4 days after these events, the commander of the Vityaz detachment, Sergei Ivanovich Lysyuk, said that he apologized to the Muscovites whose vehicles were damaged by his armored personnel carriers, as they received an order to immediately arrive and protect the television center. saying they didn’t always observe traffic rules and traffic signals and arrived in Ostankino, together with the rebel cars
      2. “A young man is being killed before our eyes ..” says S. Govorukhin, the implication is that the television center’s defenders are killing a middle-aged man. Or maybe it’s a bullet of one of the attackers?
      3. On the number of weapons. Take a look at the rebels jumping out of the truck body, each OMON shield and assault rifle, take a closer look at the frames of the ram of the truck doors of the telecentre, everyone is armed with assault rifles. They were officially confirmed by the investigation of 962 machine guns and assault rifles in the White House.
      4.Night, the shooting of hundreds of armed men storming the telecentre and they are opposed by 60-80 commandos and several of their armored personnel carriers. It is obliged to comply with the order to protect the telecentre and your life, open fire on everything that moves and in places of possible accumulation of force (parks, squares, spyder towers ) The special forces were trained in this and he was obliged to do this and he did it, his work is like that. Who at the time of the assault checks the assault documents and the presence of weapons?
      Do not go near the object, which is ordered to guard the special forces! Now the whole country knows, but they paid for it, by order of Av Rutsky and Makashov, with the lives of 146 of its citizens
      5. The correct title of the film "Hour of villains", it only started from the first minute of the assault on the mayor’s office and the assassination of Alexander Boyko and the torture of Alexander Braginsky, with shouts from the White House, when Shurik Av Rutsky and Makashov and Khasbkulatov and Ampilov ordered to storm Ostankino. their “not Hour of scoundrels, and the life of scum”, a lifelong “cycle with nails”, or rather, “Survival of scoundrels.” Some are drunk, others are “stoned” with drugs, those who know who I am talking about.
  27. vpimen2010
    vpimen2010 11 October 2013 12: 38 New
    -2
    Opinion. 1. The next and documentary exposure of lies and falsification in the film of Fursov and Shurygin, was presented by Stanislav Govorukhin in the film "Hour of villains." A few words about the film.
    1. Fursov and other Belodomites claim that everywhere there were special forces traps and ambushes for Yeltsin to kill peaceful demonstrators. The shots of the Vityaz special forces APCs overcoming concrete blocks in a crowd of protesters indicate the opposite. The ambush and the Belodomov attack aircraft arrived at the television center almost simultaneously and no one was preparing an ambush.
    In one of the telecasts, 3-4 days after these events, the commander of the Vityaz detachment, Sergei Ivanovich Lysyuk, said that he apologized to the Muscovites whose vehicles were damaged by his armored personnel carriers, as they received an order to immediately arrive and protect the television center. saying they didn’t always observe traffic rules and traffic signals and arrived in Ostankino, together with the rebel cars
    2. “A young man is being killed before our eyes ..” says S. Govorukhin, the implication is that the television center’s defenders are killing a middle-aged man. Or maybe it’s a bullet of one of the attackers?
    3. On the number of weapons. Take a look at the rebels jumping out of the truck body, each OMON shield and assault rifle, take a closer look at the frames of the ram of the truck doors of the telecentre, everyone is armed with assault rifles. They were officially confirmed by the investigation of 962 machine guns and assault rifles in the White House.
    4.Night, the shooting of hundreds of armed men storming the telecentre and they are opposed by 60-80 commandos and several of their armored personnel carriers. It is obliged to comply with the order to protect the telecentre and your life, open fire on everything that moves and in places of possible accumulation of force (parks, squares, spyder towers ) The special forces were trained in this and he was obliged to do this and he did it, his work is like that. Who at the time of the assault checks the assault documents and the presence of weapons?
    Do not go near the object, which is ordered to guard the special forces! Now the whole country knows, but they paid for it, by order of Av Rutsky and Makashov, with the lives of 146 of its citizens
    5. The correct title of the film "Hour of villains", it only started from the first minute of the assault on the mayor’s office and the assassination of Alexander Boyko and the torture of Alexander Braginsky, with shouts from the White House, when Shurik Av Rutsky and Makashov and Khasbkulatov and Ampilov ordered to storm Ostankino. their “not Hour of scoundrels, and the life of scum”, a lifelong “cycle with nails”, or rather, “Survival of scoundrels.” Some are drunk, others are “stoned” with drugs, those who know who I am talking about.