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Vladimir Putin: Russia has always developed as a “blooming complexity”, as a state-civilization, fastened by the Russian people

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Vladimir Putin: Russia has always developed as a “blooming complexity”, as a state-civilization, fastened by the Russian peopleLet me express my opinions about the future, about the strategy and values, the value basis of our country’s development, how global processes will influence our national identity, how we want to see the world of the XXI century, and what can bring to this world together with partners our country is Russia.


Today, the need to search for a new strategy and preserve one’s identity in a radically changing world, in a world that has become more open, transparent, interdependent, practically all countries, all peoples: Russian, European, Chinese, and Americans, societies of almost all countries of the world.

The questions “who are we?”, “Who do we want to be?” Sound louder and louder in our society. We left the Soviet ideology, it is impossible to return it. The adherents of fundamental conservatism, idealizing Russia to 1917, seem to be just as far from reality as the supporters of Western ultra-liberalism. Obviously, our progress is impossible without spiritual, cultural, national self-determination, otherwise we will not be able to withstand external and internal challenges, we will not be able to succeed in a global competition. And today we see a new round of such competition.

The main directions of today's competition are economic-technological and ideological-informational. Exacerbated and military-political problems, the military-political situation. The world is becoming more and more rigid, sometimes it is not just international law that is rejected, but even elementary propriety. You need to be strong in military, technological, economic terms. Still, the main thing that will determine success is the quality of people, the quality of society, intellectual, spiritual, moral. After all, in the end, both economic growth, welfare, and geopolitical influence are derived from the state of society itself, on how much the citizens of a particular country feel as one people, how deeply rooted they are in their stories, in values ​​and traditions, do their common goals and responsibilities unite. In this sense, the question of acquiring and strengthening national identity is indeed fundamental for Russia.

Meanwhile, today Russia is experiencing not only the objective pressure of globalization on its national identity, but also the consequences of national disasters of the twentieth century, when we twice experienced the collapse of our statehood. As a result, they received a devastating blow to the cultural and spiritual code of the nation, faced a rupture of traditions and unity of history, with the demoralization of society, with a lack of mutual trust and responsibility. This is where the many roots of the acute problems that we face are. After all, the question of responsibility to oneself, society and the law is one of the fundamental not only in law, but also in everyday life.

After 1991, the illusion was that the new national ideology, the ideology of development, would be born as if by itself. The state, the authorities, the intellectual and the political class practically withdrew from this work, especially as the former, semi-official ideology left a heavy edge. And just really everyone was afraid to even touch this topic. In addition, the absence of a national idea based on national identity was beneficial to the quasi-colonial part of the elite, who preferred to steal and withdraw capital, and did not associate their future with the country where this capital was earned.

National idea: the search for identity

Practice has shown that a new national idea is not born and does not develop according to market rules. Self-government did not work, as well as the mechanical copying of someone else's experience. Such crude borrowings, attempts to civilize Russia from outside were not accepted by the absolute majority of our people, because the desire for independence, spiritual, ideological, foreign policy sovereignty is an integral part of our national character. By the way, this approach does not work in many other countries. The time has passed when ready-made models of living arrangement could be installed in another state simply as a computer program.

We also understand that identity, national idea cannot be imposed from above, cannot be built on the basis of ideological monopoly. Such a construction is unstable and very vulnerable, we know this from our own experience, it has no future in the modern world. Historical creativity, the synthesis of the best national experience and ideas, the understanding of our cultural, spiritual, political traditions from different points of view with the understanding that this is not a frozen thing, given forever, but a living organism, is necessary. Only then will our identity be based on a solid foundation, will be turned into the future, and not into the past. This is the main argument in favor of the question of the ideology of development being necessarily discussed among people of different views, who hold different opinions on what and how to do in terms of solving certain problems.

We all: the so-called non-Orthodox, neo-Westernized, statesmen and so-called liberals — the whole society will have to work together to form common development goals. It is necessary to get rid of the habit of hearing only ideological like-minded people, from the threshold, with anger, and even with hatred rejecting any other point of view. You can not even throw, and kick the future of the country, like a football, plunging into frantic nihilism, consumerism, criticism of everything and everyone or hopeless pessimism. This means that liberals must learn to talk with representatives of leftist views. Nationalists should remember that Russia was formed as a multinational (multiethnic - ed.) And a multi-religious state from its first steps. And that, by questioning our multinationality (polyethnicity - ed.), Beginning to exploit the theme of Russian, Tatar, Caucasian, Siberian and any other nationalism and separatism, we embark on the path of destroying our genetic code. In fact, we begin to destroy themselves.

Value of sovereignty

The sovereignty, independence, integrity of Russia are unconditional. These are the "red lines" for which no one should go. With all the difference in our views, a discussion about identity, about a national future is impossible without the patriotism of all its participants. Patriotism, of course, in the purest sense of the word. Too often in national history, instead of opposition to the authorities, we are confronted with the opposition of Russia itself. And we know how this ended - the demolition of the state as such.

We have practically no such family that could have bypassed the evils of the past century. Issues of evaluation of certain historical events still split the country and society. We must heal these wounds, restore the integrity of the historical fabric. It is no longer possible to engage in self-deception, crossing out unsightly or ideologically inconvenient pages, breaking the link between generations, rushing to extremes, creating or debunking idols. It is time to stop noticing only the bad in history, to curse ourselves more than our ill-wishers do. Criticism is needed. But without self-esteem, without love for the Fatherland, this criticism is demeaning and unproductive.

We should be proud of our history, and we have something to be proud of. Our entire history, without exception, should become part of the Russian identity. Without recognition of this, mutual trust and progress of society is impossible.

The crisis of the West - the rejection of the roots

Another serious challenge to Russian identity is connected with the events that are occurring in the world. There are both foreign policy and moral aspects. We see how many Euro-Atlantic countries have actually taken the path of abandoning their roots, including Christian values, which form the basis of Western civilization. Moral principles and any traditional identity are denied: national, cultural, religious or even sexual. There is a policy that puts on one level a large family and same-sex partnership, faith in God or faith in Satan. The excesses of political correctness go as far as seriously mentioning the registration of parties aiming at promoting pedophilia. People in many European countries are ashamed and afraid to talk about their religious affiliation. Holidays even cancel or call them somehow differently, shamefully hiding the very essence of this holiday - the moral basis of these holidays. And they are trying to aggressively impose this model on everyone, on the whole world. I am convinced that this is a direct path to degradation and primitivization, a deep demographic and moral crisis.

What else could be more evidence of the moral crisis of human society, if not the loss of self-reproduction ability? Today, almost all developed countries can no longer reproduce themselves, even with the help of migration. Without the values ​​embodied in Christianity and other world religions, without the norms of morality and morality that have been formed for thousands of years, people will inevitably lose human dignity. And we consider it natural and right to defend these values. The right of any minority to differ must be respected, but the right of the majority must not be called into question.

Impasse of unipolarity

At the same time, we see attempts to reanimate a unipolar unified model of the world in one way or another, to blur the institution of international law and national sovereignty. Such a unipolar, unified world does not need sovereign states, it needs vassals. In a historical sense, it is the abandonment of one’s own face, of the diversity of the world given by God.

Russia with those who believe that key decisions should be developed on a collective basis, and not at the discretion and in the interests of individual states or a group of countries. What should act international law, and not the right of a strong, not a fist right, that every country, every nation is not exclusive, but unique, of course, original, has equal rights, including the right to independently choose its development. This is our conceptual view, it derives from our own historical destiny, from the role of Russia in world politics. Our current position has deep historical roots. Russia itself developed on the basis of diversity, harmony and balance, and brought such a balance to the world around it. I want to remind you that both the Vienna Congress 1815 of the year and the Yalta agreements of 1945 of the year, adopted with a very active role of Russia, ensured a long peace. The strength of Russia, the strength of the winner at these turning points was manifested in nobility and justice. And let us remember the Versailles, concluded without the participation of Russia. Many experts, and I absolutely agree with them, believe that it was in Versailles that the roots of the future World War II were laid. Because the Treaty of Versailles was unfair to the German people and imposed restrictions on it that it could not normally cope with, it was clear a century ahead.

I want to pay attention to one more fundamental aspect. In European, and in a number of other countries, the so-called multiculturalism - largely introduced, artificially introduced from the top model - is now being questioned, and it is clear why. Because it is based on a kind of payment for the colonial past. It is no coincidence that today politicians and public figures of Europe themselves are increasingly talking about the collapse of multiculturalism, that it is not capable of ensuring the integration into the society of foreign-language and foreign-cultural elements.

"Blooming complexity" of Eurasia

Over the centuries, not even the smallest ethnic group has disappeared in Russia, to which they once labeled the “prison of nations”. All of them have preserved not only their internal independence and cultural identity, but also their historical space. You know, I learned with interest that in Soviet times they were so attentive to this - almost every small nation had its own print edition, languages ​​were supported, national (ethnic - ed.) Literature was maintained. By the way, much of what was done in this sense before, we need to return and adopt. At the same time, we have accumulated a unique experience of mutual influence, mutual enrichment, mutual respect of different cultures. This multiculturalism, polyethnicity lives in our historical consciousness, in our spirit, in our historical code. Our statehood was built on this naturally millennium.

Russia, as the philosopher Konstantin Leontyev figuratively said, has always developed as a “blooming complexity”, as a state-civilization fastened by the Russian people, the Russian language, Russian culture, the Russian Orthodox Church and other traditional religions of Russia. It is from the state-civilization model that the features of our state structure flow. It has always sought to flexibly take into account the national, religious specifics of certain territories, providing diversity in unity. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, other religions are an integral part of the identity and historical heritage of Russia in the real life of its citizens. The main task of the state, enshrined in the Constitution, is ensuring equal rights for representatives of traditional religions and atheists, the right to freedom of conscience for all citizens of the country.

However, identification solely through ethnos, religion in the largest state with a multi-ethnic composition of the population, is certainly impossible (this is possible in the imperial model of the state - ed.). Forming precisely civil identity based on common values, patriotic consciousness, civic responsibility and solidarity, respect for the law, involvement in the fate of the Motherland without losing connection with their ethnic and religious roots is a necessary condition for preserving the unity of the country (imperial-type model - ed.) As a politically, ideologically, ideological concept of national development will be framed - a subject for extensive discussion. But I am deeply convinced that in the heart of our philosophy there should be human development, moral, intellectual and physical development. Back in the early 90s, Solzhenitsyn talked about saving the people after the hardest of the twentieth century as the main national goal. Today we must admit that we have not succeeded in completely reversing the negative demographic trends, we have only slightly retreated from the dangerous feature of the loss of national potential.

Unfortunately, in the history of our country the value of a separate human life was often low. Too often, people remained only a means, not a goal and a mission of development. We no longer have not only the right, but also the opportunity to throw millions of people into the furnace of development. It is necessary to protect everyone. It is educated, creative, physically and spiritually healthy people, not natural resources or nuclear weapon, will be the main force of Russia of this and subsequent centuries.

Education of the patriot and the principles of self-government

The role of education is all the more important because for the education of the individual, a patriot, we need to restore the role of the great Russian culture and literature. They should be the foundation for self-determination of citizens, the source of identity and the basis for understanding the national idea. Here a lot depends on the teaching, teaching community, which was and remains the most important keeper of national values, ideas and attitudes. This community speaks the same language - the language of science, knowledge, education. And it is on a vast territory - from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok. And already this community, bearing in mind the teaching, teaching community as a whole, in the broad sense of the word, holds the country together. And the support of this community is one of the most important steps towards a strong, prosperous Russia.

I stress once again: without concentrating our forces on education and people's health, on the formation of the mutual responsibility of the authorities and every citizen and, finally, on restoring trust in society, we will lose out in historical competition. Citizens of Russia must feel that they are the responsible owners of their country, their land, their small homeland, their property, their property and their lives.

A citizen is one who is able to independently manage his own affairs, freely cooperating with his peers. And the best school of citizenship is local self-government and amateur organizations of citizens. Of course, I mean in this case NPO. By the way, one of the best Russian political traditions, the Zemstvo tradition, was also built precisely on the principles of self-government. Only from effective mechanisms of self-government can a real civil society and a real nationally-oriented elite grow, including, of course, opposition with its own ideology, values, measures of good and bad, with its own, and not imposed by the media or especially from abroad. The state is ready and will trust amateur and self-governing structures, but we need to know who we trust. And this is an absolutely normal world practice, which is why we have adopted new legislation that increases the transparency of the activities of non-governmental organizations.

Speaking of any reforms, it is important not to forget that our country is not only Moscow and St. Petersburg. Developing Russian federalism, we must rely on our own historical experience, use flexible and diverse models. The construction of Russian federalism has a very large potential. We need to learn to use it wisely, without forgetting the main thing: the development of regions, their independence should work to create equal opportunities for all citizens of a country, regardless of their place of residence; to eliminate imbalances in the economic and social development of the territories of Russia, and therefore, to strengthen the unity of the country. Of course, this is a daunting task, because these territories have developed over decades, or even centuries, of course, unevenly.

Eurasian Union - a project to preserve the identity of peoples

The twenty-first century promises to be the century of major changes, the era of the formation of large geopolitical continents, financial, economic, cultural, civilizational, military-political. And therefore our absolute priority is close integration with our neighbors. The future Eurasian Economic Union, about which we declared, about which we have been talking a lot lately, is not just a set of mutually beneficial agreements. The Eurasian Union is a project to preserve the identity of peoples, the historical Eurasian space in the new century and in the new world. Eurasian integration is a chance for the entire post-Soviet space to become an independent center of global development, and not a periphery for Europe or for Asia. I want to emphasize that Eurasian integration will also be based on the principle of diversity. This is an association in which everyone will save their own face, their own identity and political subjectivity. Together with partners we will consistently, step by step implement this project. And we expect that it will become our common contribution to the preservation of the diversity and sustainability of world development.

The years after 91 are commonly called the post-Soviet stage. We survived, overcame this turbulent dramatic time. Russia, as has already happened in history more than once, after passing through breaking up, ordeals, returns to itself, returns to its own history.

Having consolidated our national identity, having strengthened our roots, remaining open and receptive to the best ideas and practices of the East and the West, we should and will go forward.

Based on the Valdai speech of the President of Russia Vladimir Putin
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  1. treskoed
    treskoed 9 October 2013 07: 39 New
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    But still, the main thing that will determine success is the quality of people, the quality of society is intellectual, spiritual, moral.

    For VIP-officials have to remember the 37th year! Otherwise it will not work!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 October 2013 08: 05 New
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      Immediately the first, to preserve identity, add the chapter -nationality to the passport!
      But still, the main thing that will determine success is the quality of people, the quality of society is intellectual, spiritual, moral.
      Here before this we still have, like to the moon cancer. They created a world of consumers and it’s very difficult to get away from it.
      In general, Putin should start with himself and his followers. To cancel immunity, to make the law the same for everyone, to start. Stop buying expensive western show-offs (cars, villas, etc.), then people can then begin to love not only the country, but also respect the authorities.
      1. sprut
        sprut 9 October 2013 21: 27 New
        +5
        The only word "Russian" is how it warms the soul ...
      2. Heccrbq .2
        Heccrbq .2 9 October 2013 22: 13 New
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        It’s not for nothing that Vovan sang about the Russians, apparently the oil went down and we needed him for something.
        1. Realist58
          Realist58 10 October 2013 22: 34 New
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          Probably have to fight soon.
          For the Motherland, for the oligarchy!
    2. experienced
      experienced 9 October 2013 09: 54 New
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      I read it in shock. GDP accuses the West of deviating the West from its roots, but at the same time, Russia is flooded with migrant workers from countries with a feudal system and in the Moscow Region officially designated sites for the ritual of "cutting sheep" (sacrifice?) To Kurban Bayram ...
      I agree that Europe has “advanced” in debauchery beyond Russia, but as if everything is not going smoothly with us and that I don’t see anything being done to improve the situation. You can certainly admire how the neighbor’s house is on fire, but when your smolder begins to smolder ...
      civilization state held together by the Russian people

      You can declare to the president, but you can also bring a simple hard worker for this under the article on chauvinism. LKN cut Russian - hooliganism, Russian beat LKN - inciting ethnic hatred + hooliganism. request
      Unfortunately, Putin is becoming the usual “proclamator of slogans” and nothing more and will probably remain a statesman in the history of the country who wanted good for Russia, but his environment prevented him (Serdyukov, Golikova, Chubais, ..) ... whom he kept near you ...
      1. Metlik
        Metlik 9 October 2013 10: 34 New
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        But what about the idea of ​​unity? Can’t it be possible to unite the robbed population with the invaders?
      2. New Russia
        New Russia 9 October 2013 12: 07 New
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        And that you minus it? Seasoned cat. And there is nothing to say in response. Putin is not going to do your damn thing for the Russians. This year several million geeks will be delivered more) These are Putin’s affairs and not words
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 9 October 2013 17: 16 New
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          The funny thing is that the video with the head of the FMS in my comm is minus and there is nothing to answer) Needless to answer the head of the FMS? And I’m minus what)
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 9 October 2013 17: 26 New
            +2
            For your information, these migrants include not only Tajiks and Uzbeks.
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 9 October 2013 17: 31 New
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              Not all, 70%.
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        2. Mature naturalist
          Mature naturalist 9 October 2013 23: 33 New
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          Quote: New Russia
          Several million geeks will be brought this year
      3. georg737577
        georg737577 9 October 2013 12: 31 New
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        ... but his environment prevented him (Serdyukov, Golikova, Chubais, ..) ... whom he kept near him ...
        Which he also typed.
      4. goldfinger
        goldfinger 9 October 2013 14: 09 New
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        Quote: seasoned
        Unfortunately, Putin is becoming the usual “proclamator of slogans” and nothing more and will probably remain a statesman in the history of the country who wanted good for Russia, but his environment prevented him (Serdyukov, Golikova, Chubais, ..) ... whom he kept near you ...

        Neighbor Belarus. The most interesting thing is that there are fewer and fewer people in Russia, I judge by the media, and we (the One State has not been canceled) who really support him and fully approve of his policy. If 10 years ago no one would go against him, since there was a real contrast between Yeltsin and Putin who came to power, now few people trust him, especially against the backdrop of unprecedented and unpunished corruption that he could curb if he himself wanted to. The discontent of the population is growing, and so he has to pursue a policy of tightening the screws, to do everything to be feared here too.
        As for the rest of the world, Putin does not understand one thing. There is a difference between FEAR and RESPECT. If they are afraid of him, then they will certainly never be respected. What is happening now, but Russia itself and Belarus in particular suffer from this (as we are perceived abroad as one country - Russia), sympathy for which is reduced thanks to Putin. He does not understand that all this leads the country to a real abyss. Although he may understand, he just doesn’t give a damn about it, because the people are the last thing he thinks about. And he and his entourage think primarily about themselves, and not about people.
      5. Arabist
        Arabist 9 October 2013 16: 08 New
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        And you are sure that how you write cut-hooliganism + inciting ethnic hatred a lot of truth? Where did you read this?
      6. Realist58
        Realist58 10 October 2013 22: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: seasoned
        Unfortunately, Putin is becoming the usual “proclamator of slogans” and nothing more and will probably remain a statesman in the history of the country who wanted good for Russia, but his environment prevented him (Serdyukov, Golikova, Chubais, ..) ... whom he kept near you ...

        And yes, he was not the proclamator of a myriad of slogans.
        Remember at least "Soak in the toilet."
        Instead, we pay tribute.

        - "I promised you so much, but not enough for you" GDP
    3. alone
      alone 9 October 2013 11: 14 New
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      Quote: treskoed
      For VIP-officials have to remember the 37th year! Otherwise it will not work!


      can't remember the 37th! need such as Stalin. but this is not and never will be.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 9 October 2013 12: 13 New
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        Quote: lonely
        need such as Stalin. but this is not and never will be.

        Never say never". Appears at the right time and place.
        1. alone
          alone 9 October 2013 17: 30 New
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          the train left. yes and the people are no longer the same as under Stalin. yes and Russia doesn’t have a person in the foreseeable future who could do what Stalin did. can you have a candidate? present his name, may I change my mind.

          Yes, and if there is one, they’ll liquidate him sooner than let him control the country. No one is reluctant to share power with anyone))
    4. fzr1000
      fzr1000 9 October 2013 11: 33 New
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      Has Putin really recalled “the role of the Russian people in Russia” publicly? The bear is dead. It would be nice if, besides words, I would also remember with deeds.
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 9 October 2013 12: 18 New
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        He always remembers it when ratings fall. I’ve noticed in the news for a year now that smart analysts parse every word of it and look for deeper meanings. And people from the Lake both stole and steal; politics does not change
        1. bogdan
          bogdan 9 October 2013 12: 37 New
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          Well, he doesn’t start from the wrong end, and is afraid to utter, and even more so to do, the main thing — as we say, we need to return home — the nationalization of enterprises, lands, natural wealth, etc., the socialist priorities for the development of society, the bourgeois again need to be launched around the world, otherwise, "the world" will be the rest of the people, well, the total shaking up of the bureaucratic and state. apparatus.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 9 October 2013 13: 53 New
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            Quote: bogdan
            Well, not from that end, he begins
            we need to return home - the nationalization of enterprises, lands, natural wealth, etc., socialist priorities for the development of society
        2. Arabist
          Arabist 9 October 2013 15: 41 New
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          And where do not steal? Are there such countries?
          1. alone
            alone 9 October 2013 17: 33 New
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            no, of course. they steal everywhere. only the scope is not that. in the countries of the former union, everyone is stealing everything))
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    6. kris
      kris 9 October 2013 12: 44 New
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      Another balabstvom Vladimir Putin.
      correct words, as always.
      and then you can put everything on everything.
      for 12 years the gdp has already been so much promised that if even half had been fulfilled, they would have lived many times better than now.
      PS: DOES SOMEONE BEFORE THIS TIME BELIEVE IN PUTIN'S TALES?
    7. taseka
      taseka 9 October 2013 19: 41 New
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      "has always developed as a" blossoming complexity ", as a state-civilization, held together by the Russian people, the Russian language, Russian culture"- As long as the Russians, as the city’s nation-forming nation, don’t put on national clothes, on national holidays, talking about blooming complexity is a demagogic bluff!
  2. Igor39
    Igor39 9 October 2013 07: 41 New
    +5
    The CU in the person of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan has everything to dynamically develop, other post-Soviet countries are simply not needed there, for economic and political reasons.
    1. rJIiOK
      rJIiOK 9 October 2013 11: 41 New
      +3
      Ukraine is still needed, but so far it has not yet grown to us, unfortunately.
      If you look geopolitically, Ukraine is a wider access to the Black Sea.
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 9 October 2013 18: 00 New
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        Quote: rJIiOK
        Ukraine is still needed, but so far it has not yet grown to us, unfortunately.
        Seen geopolitically,
        Mikhail, you take a lot on yourself, you’ll overdo it !!!! Ukraine does not need you, and you don’t need to discuss it !!!
  3. Asgard
    Asgard 9 October 2013 07: 50 New
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    The speech of Vladimir Vladimirovich in the "Valdai language"))) is not yet in Russian)))

    Multinational Russia, well, argue, and Russian Culture and Language were the "brace" of this statehood and the key to development, and not a multi-national policy ?!))

    A lot of privacy and “religion” is a step into the darkness and abyss of illiteracy ....
    Faith not backed up by KNOWLEDGE leads to Gundyeshchevna and obscurantism on "Mercedes"
    When building "temples" is not the whole world, and hired "Gentiles" for money novorishy who cast their names on the wall of the "TEMPLE OF GOD")))) HHS in Moscow.
    Or when from the "religion" the troops of the "infidels" are raised to kill People ...
    And they build mosques for It and call it after the name of KADYROV BANDIT))))))
    Mosque in Grozny ...
    I do not understand, This is not obscurantism dear President?
    Is this not the case since the beginning of the 2000s of the new century ???
    Where is the Knowledge and Culture of the Russian People ????
    About.com
    stupidly as it looks and sounds))))
    incorrectly worded, but drift went towards Health
    the "elite" begins to get sick and DaiBog)) will die)))
    Man "Various" officials "will not survive such transformations))))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 October 2013 08: 12 New
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      Quote: Asgard
      A lot of privacy and “religion” is a step into the darkness and abyss of illiteracy ...

      Asgard, find at least one illiterate parishioner. Here is the rejection of religion in Europe and what will it lead to? Rather, it has already led.
      Quote: Asgard
      When building "temples" is not the whole world, but hired "Gentiles"

      I didn’t see this, the parishioners themselves are building churches here, the only few cutting specialists were invited from China. They didn’t understand why everything should be done so finely and finely. They showed a film about Jesus and his life. The Chinese women were with tears at eyes. Temples are built by the whole world.
      Quote: Asgard
      stupidly as it looks and sounds))))

      It sounds essentially normal, I already wrote above, but maybe everyone should start with himself, not hoping for the top. This is about culture on the same roads where everyone is ready to break the other.
      1. godun
        godun 9 October 2013 10: 02 New
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        It was the Gentiles who built the temple in us, which made me very upset, probably so cheaper. To my great chagrin, our temples now resemble trading shops, what spirituality is there.
        1. alone
          alone 9 October 2013 11: 16 New
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          not only with you. Now, unfortunately, everything related to religion resembles the wholesale market.
          1. 10kAzAk01
            10kAzAk01 9 October 2013 19: 50 New
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            I recently decided to baptize a child !!! so there is a whole price list for this service !!! refused to baptize for free!
        2. azkolt
          azkolt 9 October 2013 19: 18 New
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          What are the shops? Do you even understand what you are writing about? Under Soviet rule, the church was forced to transfer the sale of candles to the temple itself, because otherwise it would be considered propaganda. And the fact that they sell candles and treasures, so the priest needs to live on something. You don’t pay him a salary and he doesn’t receive a pension from the state. That's when they make a 10% tax in favor of the church in Germany, then they will give you candles for free. Want to?
          "Worker deserves rewards," you know who said?
          1. 10kAzAk01
            10kAzAk01 9 October 2013 19: 52 New
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            But how did Christ expel merchants from temples?
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  5. zevs379
    zevs379 9 October 2013 07: 56 New
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    We no longer have not only the right, but also the opportunity to throw millions of people into the furnace of development. Everyone needs to be protected. It is educated, creative, physically and spiritually healthy people, and not natural resources or nuclear weapons, that will be the main force of Russia of this and subsequent centuries.


    Neither add nor add! It seems that finally we will have the GREAT RUSSIAN IDEA !!!!!!!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 9 October 2013 08: 41 New
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      Quote: zevs379
      It is educated, creative, physically and spiritually healthy people, and not natural resources or nuclear weapons, that will be the main force of Russia of this and subsequent centuries.

      Who is arguing? Only now "educated, creative, physically and spiritual people" will be when there is a GREAT GOAL. In the name of what to be like that? Only in the name of JUSTICE AND HONESTY. So it's time to return the USSR in its best form, and for this, learn from Comrade I.V. Stalin, read his works.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 9 October 2013 09: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: Egoza
        So it's time to return the USSR in its best form, and for this, learn from Comrade I.V. Stalin, read his works.


        Elena, tough you.

        I recently re-read Exupery. And for comparison he took his Planet of people and the Citadel.

        Two different views of one person. One is still a young man, and the second is an experienced wise husband. And I liked the thoughts in the Citadel. It is about a return to justice and a reappraisal of values. I agree with you
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 9 October 2013 12: 19 New
          +6
          Quote: vorobey
          Elena, tough you.

          What do you want?
          Imagine the commander who begs the regiment: "Comrades! Well, comrades, please stand in line!" Will there be much use?
          And just from teaching experience. The class — seniors — are slobs, which three class teachers have refused. Set priorities clearly and firmly. Explain the goal, carry away the task. And they obey and work with pleasure. And if you show "democracy" and gentleness, they will sit on the neck and drive.
          Given the current state of the economy and the greed of officials + oligarchs ... "democratically" -will fail. I would not want to.
  6. saag
    saag 9 October 2013 08: 17 New
    +8
    GDP competently avoided definitions so as not to be blamed for something
  7. Bigriver
    Bigriver 9 October 2013 09: 01 New
    12
    And I really liked the keynote speech!
    Interesting is the evolution of GDP in views, in assessing its mission, in emphasis as President over the past almost 10 years.
    If anyone remembers his expressions of the mid-2000s: "... like a slave in galleys," "... the President is a hired manager with a fixed term," etc.
    Then Alexander Prokhanov, nadis, shared. He asked Putin a question in Valdai, they say, do you have VladVlad a large project in Russia?
    To which he answered: Russia is not a project, Russia is destiny! It was said sincerely and passionately.
    The depth and understanding of the country, no doubt, has become much greater.
    1. sincman
      sincman 9 October 2013 10: 03 New
      +7
      Quote: BigRiver
      Interesting is the evolution of GDP in views, in assessing its mission, in emphasis as President over the past almost 10 years.

      The main thing is that the people should evolve, develop, understand the causal relationships of all our problems and, most importantly, adequately understand who the enemy is and who is a true friend.
    2. Gari
      Gari 9 October 2013 11: 58 New
      +7
      Quote: BigRiver
      And I really liked the keynote speech!

      The Eurasian Union is a project to preserve the identity of peoples, historical Eurasian space in the new century and in the new world. Eurasian integration is a chance for the entire post-Soviet space to become an independent center of global development, and not the periphery for Europe or for Asia.
      Having consolidated our national identity, having strengthened our roots, remaining open and receptive to the best ideas and practices of the East and the West, we should and will go forward.
      Forward Together We Strength!
    3. New Russia
      New Russia 9 October 2013 12: 15 New
      +8
      “Interesting is the evolution of GDP in views, in assessing one’s mission, in emphasis as President over the past almost 10 years.”
      And where is this evolution? Are there any differences in words but in reality? The import of migrants every year more and more. The fight against corruption is not and is not planned. Depreciation of housing and communal services funds is 70% and does not decrease despite the increasing requisitions of people. Joining the WTO. The collapse of education. Did he do anything besides the words beautiful? And, and more recently, the destruction of the RAS) By the way, with a birthday, Putin
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 9 October 2013 14: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: New Russia
        And where is this evolution?
    4. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 9 October 2013 13: 18 New
      +6
      Quote: BigRiver
      Do you have VladVlad a large project in Russia?

      Quote: BigRiver
      Russia is not a project, Russia is destiny! It was said sincerely and passionately.

      Putin said everything correctly, he has no projects for Russia, nor improvement of education, medicine, culture, etc., and the fact that we live with high-ranking thieves, migrants, unemployed Caucasians, we have such a fate
      here is a fresh vidos on the topic on whose side the law
  8. darksoul
    darksoul 9 October 2013 09: 17 New
    13
    Quote: saag
    Everyone needs to be protected. It is educated, creative, physically and spiritually healthy people,


    We want to save the country:

    1. Demography, the benefit of maternal capital really helps, then I will not say anything bad about the authorities
    2. The upbringing of our young generation, I don’t argue with a lot of good guys, but they have enough clinical patients for vegetables whose intellect is already absent; in fact, they can thump on benches and use foul language, if earlier the image of a Russian girl was associated with chastity, modesty, now it’s approaching a lung woman behavior. In ort, some cheap films are filmed, as in Turkey they are there ........ they go in shawls ...., on TNT like in a circle of eb ... sya and they convey each to each, all humor below the belt. ..... what will we come to?
    3. We do not need so many migrants. Believe me, we Russians don’t sit on the stove and not only plump, but these excuse me for damn it ... di all interrupt prices, work has to be discounted very much in cost, familiar guys finish the work, you go to the construction site as if you get into Islamobad, there’s no Russian language , torn dogs, cats lying around ... eating everything that’s horrible, the word toilet is hard to understand shit until the shit hits the ceiling .... and Putin said that the visa regime with the CIS countries would hit the Russian economy, we won’t just introduce it selectively need to relate to migrants .... in a request to the distinguished president .... damage to the Russian economy or the selfish interests of officials who for the loot inflate the page with this mass?
    4. National idea and identity. I’m not Russian, I’m RUSICH .... it annoys me that the Gazprom office is headed by Russians and doesn’t smell like it constantly imposes on me that I am Russian. I am for the Tatars and other peoples of our country to be proud of their history of their affiliation, but understand that if we succeed in introducing a split in our ranks, it will be everything to us and to you. Why do not the Chechens say that it is bad to do this, teach them that they are Russians and not us.
    5. Do not twist the fundamental nation RUSSIAN therefore. In Russian cities there should be churches, well, you can have a maximum of one mosque for guests .... but ideally .... guests want a request to Alakha to go home, God's people go to this land. It is also adequate that in Tatarstan most of the mosques are because they are Muslims and this is their religion and this is correct. It’s not necessary to impose on every nation what is foreign to them, it is necessary to emphasize the peculiarity of each nation, but also to understand that we must respect each other and stay in place
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 9 October 2013 12: 21 New
      +7
      “We don’t need so many migrants. Believe us, the Russians don’t sit on the stove and not only have a drink, but these excuse me for damn it ... di all interrupt prices, work has to be discounted very much in cost, familiar guys tell the finishers, you’ll go to the construction site as if you get into Islamobad, there’s no Russian language, torn dogs, cats are lying around ... eating everything that’s horrible, the word toilet is hard to understand shit until the shit hits the ceiling .... and Putin said that the visa regime with the CIS countries would hit the economy Russia, we will not enter simply selectively "it’s necessary to relate to migrants .... a question for the distinguished president .... damage to the Russian economy or the selfish interests of officials who pump lumps of money for this mass?"
      But Putin needs migrants. 2013 million will be delivered in 17, 2 million more than in 2012 and 4 more than in 2011.
  9. Nitarius
    Nitarius 9 October 2013 09: 24 New
    +6
    VOVAN BEAUTIFUL! HAPPY --- God forbid that SUGGESTED PUTIN! and with the EURASIAN UNION AND STRENGTHENING THE COUNTRY!
  10. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 9 October 2013 09: 28 New
    16
    Right and beautiful words.
    Still the words coincided with deeds. The verbal demagogy of the last "leader" of the USSR to a large extent served the collapse of the collapse of the Great Country. The Minister of Education has corrected himself; penalties have been taken from him, Serdyukov is a witness, Medvedev is taxis .... You can go on ad infinitum. Turn on the TV. The “most important” news is surrogate motherhood of some very “ideological” person.
    Words words... .
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 9 October 2013 10: 19 New
      16
      Quote: Was Mammoth
      Right and beautiful words.
      Still the words coincided with deeds.

      I believed the President. I was waiting for change. They are, but some timid, half-hearted. Advances in foreign policy are crossed out by impotence against high-level corruption, lawlessness of officials and muddy migration policy.
      And now I’ll say, quite in Stanislavsky’s way - I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!
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      3. Asgard
        Asgard 9 October 2013 11: 25 New
        +4
        Welcome to the People)))))
  11. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 9 October 2013 09: 45 New
    +5
    Vladimir Putin: Russia has always developed as a “blooming complexity”, as a state-civilization, fastened by the Russian people

    That's just all going to the fact that this "bond RUSSIAN people" can "roll up" the black asphalt.
    Now I watched the video from Asgard (2) under the article Guy Borisov: “Crusade is the opposite”: the expansion of “jihadists” cannot be stopped by police methods, and it’s really terrible.
  12. Sergeant
    Sergeant 9 October 2013 09: 52 New
    +7
    educated, creative, physically and spiritually healthy people, and not natural resources or nuclear weapons, will be the main force of Russia of this and subsequent centuries.


    In a capitalist economy, where is the profit above all? !! ...
    ..I think this is NOT real.


    Type: "selfless and constructive work for the good of Russia" in a private (!) Factory owned by some far from generous salary and social packages to a "capitalist" (perhaps even a foreigner)? Interestingly, this .. "rogue" will also be happy for the good of the "homeland"?
    From the modern slogan (at the factory): "We are proud that we give metal to the country!" ..Well, well .. Through the London Metal Exchange !! Buy your native country! (if there are "grandmas" ... otherwise - "go through the woods!" ..)
    (and ..there is, does the capitalists have a homeland?)

    I'd like to believe (and believe) in the Best, but against the backdrop of the diverse 20-year debauchery of the country's population, where the cult of Money reigns, I somehow believe in what is "ideological" with great difficulty!
    But you need to believe in something!

    (Sorry for the pessimism)

    IMHO: Without a clear (and valid) social orientation in politics, we will continue to swim in this "oil" capitalistic puddle, discussing great national ideas!
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 9 October 2013 14: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: Sergeant
      In a capitalist economy, where is the profit above all? !! ...
      ..I think this is NOT real.
      Well, why?

      The point is not whether the market is in the country, or the command-and-control system. The point is the distribution of benefits and the state's compliance with its own legislation.

      examples:
      Brazil - a liberal market, a commodity economy, is not a social state.
      Brazil's minimum wage - 32% of GDP per capita PPP (as in the states).

      Canada is a liberal market, a commodity-based economy, a socially oriented state.
      Minimum wage - 40% of PPP GDP per capita.

      Australia - liberal market, commodity economy, social state.
      A minimum wage of 50% of PPP GDP per capita.

      Russia is a liberal market, a commodity economy, social state.
      The minimum wage of GDP per capita PPP - 8%.

      This state of affairs violates both the 133rd article of the Labor Code and a number of articles of the Constitution, but the guarantor put it - this is the main problem.
  13. w2000
    w2000 9 October 2013 11: 19 New
    +7
    The main message of this speech, which runs through the red thread and in many other speeches of this ghoul "We have left Soviet ideology, impossible to return it"And why is it impossible to return? And all because this is at odds with the interests of the capitalist oligarchs who put Putin in the Kremlin and who solemnly swore that he would not allow the return of Soviet power and deviation from the market economy. Therefore, we will be another 11 years watch this cotton wool riding and demagoguery in the best traditions of Gorbachev, and then it will be continued by the next receiver assigned to the gang of oligarchs and bankers.
    And the people, as a new ideology, will be fed religious obscurantism, talk about the brotherhood of Russians with Chechens, Dagestanis and Tajiks, as well as about the justice of things, when a small group of cunning and unprincipled businessmen owns all the welfare of the country.
  14. simpleton
    simpleton 9 October 2013 11: 21 New
    +4
    Well, yes, self-identity, self-esteem and all that .... Blah blah blah, and Kyrgyzstan and other Asian "brothers" blaspheme Russia and our whole people are what the world stands on. And we all forgive them, write off debts, give everything to them in a new way, etc. Officials steal, Caucasians greet, and we only tell us which WE (read Russian, who are also Udmurts and Bashkirs and Tatars and all other peoples and ethnic groups of Russia) are great and like WE have to re-build and elevate and endure everything. Isn’t it too much for us? Maybe it’s time to begin to really defend our interests and OUR life and OUR truth even to the point of blood, eh? After all, if we do not get together and do not hurt anyone, they will not understand and will not fall into their place in the long historical path.
  15. Jarilo
    Jarilo 9 October 2013 11: 38 New
    +5
    Everything is correct. And in order to succeed, you need really simple things:
    To be trusted, do not be fooled.
    To be positive, you need to think positively.
    For development to go in one direction or another, it is necessary that this is not only profitable, but also interesting (necessary and sufficient conditions).
    In life, everything is simple, if you look.
  16. godun
    godun 9 October 2013 11: 56 New
    +4
    The politician’s GDP and his main occupation is to say a lot of correct and beautiful words, to make promises to maintain the “rating”, not really worrying about their implementation, and his environment, more and more often ignores his words, causing him genuine indignation. So it's all blah blah blah, no more. In order to realize at least one point from his "programmatic" speech, it is necessary to break the system that he built. In our modern realities, our guarantor is not a guarantor of anything.
  17. saag
    saag 9 October 2013 11: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: w2000
    "We left the Soviet ideology, it is impossible to return it"

    So there will be no national idea from the current leadership, but there will be verbal adornment, for example, there will be an increase in social tension, Medvedev launched, and in 2017 there will be a gesture of a broad gesture from the authorities towards the people and guess who they will elect in 2018?
    1. Sour
      Sour 9 October 2013 20: 57 New
      -1
      Well, of course, besides the Savetsian ideology, there can be no other national idea. Why on earth?
      The national idea was good - “equality and brotherhood”, “we will help the starving Africans to the detriment of ourselves”, “Russia is a feeding trough for all comers,” “all power to careerists and scoundrels”, “we will turn the country into a warehouse of rusty scrap metal”, etc.
      Thank you, gone from this ideology. And, no matter how much the fanatics would like to return, we will never return. DO NOT wait.
  18. dmb
    dmb 9 October 2013 12: 13 New
    +8
    Well, what new have we heard? Sashka Kerensky, they say, turned around abruptly. Let's try to drop the slogans, and go through the essence. The first thing that the Soviet ideology consisted in is that today the majority of the country's population (and not just members of the Lake cooperative) are not happy with it? Why is this ideology impossible to return? I personally did not find answers to these questions either in this speech or in others. Second, so what is the national idea all the same? I did not find an answer, neither in this nor in other speeches to this question. Everything else is ordinary idle talk and a substitution of concepts. Explain to me how Soviet ideology impeded the development of Russian and other national cultures? The Guarantor in Valdai himself was surprised to learn that they were all supported by the state. So it’s not about culture. Who will tell me which denominations were banned when the Soviet state strengthened. Yes, no one but sects for faith was not persecuted. They did not approve, but neither persecuted. Moreover, not a small amount of money was allocated for the restoration from the budget. Less of course, than they stole Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, but still. There remains only one significant difference, the social one. But it is unlikely for the people that the basis of the national idea can be the existing difference between the well-being of their children with the children of Potanin and Shuvalov. And finally, the passage is about education. If the actions of Messrs. Fursenko and Livanov lead to public education, then I am the Chinese emperor. I would very much like to hear from supporters of the current government, not Putin (because he is only an official representing this government), but the authorities answer to these questions.
  19. saag
    saag 9 October 2013 12: 27 New
    0
    Quote: lonely
    need such as Stalin. but this is not and never will be.

    Quote: Egoza
    Never say never". Appears at the right time and place.

    Since Stalin did not appear on his own, but when the political system changed, i.e. when the ideology of communism appeared and was put into practice, then taking into account the statement of Comrade Putin: "We have left the Soviet ideology, it is impossible to return it," Comrade Stalin will not appear in the foreseeable future. I dare to add that Comrade Stalin should first appear before Comrade Lenin as the bearer of a new ideology :-)
    1. Mature naturalist
      Mature naturalist 9 October 2013 22: 33 New
      0
      Quote: saag
      first, Comrade Lenin should appear

      as well as Mr. Parvus, who will finance all this
      Running in a circle ...
      1. lexe
        lexe 9 October 2013 22: 46 New
        -1
        as well as Mr. Parvus, who will finance all this
        Running in a circle ..

        You have forgotten the tsar and the empire. So for complete reliability, you would have to have the Russian Empire with its 1913 indicators and a high population growth rate.
        Understandably, the desire of some to fit different railroad tracks ... in historical overtones.
        Only now, the track has narrowed ... and there’s not enough publicity to prove the opposite and tell people that now ... a little more will happen in 1917! Rather, people are waiting for the apocalypse and train wreck.
  20. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 9 October 2013 13: 06 New
    +6
    GDP has the right words, but it’s only for a long time that it diverges from deeds.
  21. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 9 October 2013 13: 27 New
    +8
    Hypocrisy raised to the power! Words are just words, where are you? Where is the industrial and agricultural upsurge? How many industries have lost and even dragged over the ears in the WTO. Corruption takes away the country's budget in parts and leads away for a cardon. The Russian people holding together the “blossoming complexity” is being squeezed out by flows of migrants from Central Asia from the filing of corrupt power! And I'm afraid that in the near future it may happen that Russia does not become and Rusikistan with its capital in Maskvabad appears in its place ...
  22. Egoza
    Egoza 9 October 2013 13: 33 New
    +3
    excerpt

    “They do not change horses at the crossing!
    No horses. And the coachman - it's time.
    And may he never forget
    That life is not a race, not a game!
    And it’s impossible to deceive nature,
    Although the sun came up in the morning, as always:
    The one who at least once felt freedom -
    He will throw off the hated saddle! ”

    Dasha Winter
  23. Alexey M
    Alexey M 9 October 2013 14: 39 New
    +2
    The comrade leads the right course. It remains to find out where?
    It’s just that Putin needs to determine for himself with whom he is with the People (winner, builder, breadwinner, defender) or with the people (oligarchs, elites, deputies, thoughts, United Russia), and then by his actions everything will be clear to everyone and everyone whose friend Putin is.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 9 October 2013 15: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexey M
      Putin just needs to determine for himself with whom
      and then by his actions everything at once and everyone will understand whose friend he is, Putin.

      By his actions it’s been clear for a long time who he is with.
  24. Starfish
    Starfish 9 October 2013 15: 05 New
    +3
    it’s good that I did not directly promise the Russians any changes for the better, otherwise I know from experience that all his promises lead to directly opposite results
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 9 October 2013 15: 26 New
      +3
      He promised in vain 25 million jobs) Since then, the number of jobs has been reduced by 130000)
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 9 October 2013 16: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: New Russia
        He promised in vain 25 million jobs) Since then, the number of jobs has been reduced by 130000)

        25 million MODERN HIGH-PAYING jobs - that is, highly skilled.

        Against the background of degradation of education, this can mean 2 options: either it was a standard tryndzh, or workers to replace these places will be imported from outside.
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 9 October 2013 16: 11 New
          0
          Well, that's right, how many Russians are going to work as janitors?
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 9 October 2013 16: 17 New
            +6
            Previously, they worked normally in the USSR as janitors, and now many will go, but the Russians specifically write ads asking them not to bother, they only take Asians to take half their salaries, they have a salary of 40 50 thousand, really, no one will go to such a job? I do not believe
            1. Arabist
              Arabist 9 October 2013 16: 21 New
              0
              Show me at least one such announcement? Where did you see him? And why didn’t they go to the North? Novy Urengoy average salary 70000.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 9 October 2013 16: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: Arabist
                Novy Urengoy average salary of 70000.

                In Urengoy, only oil workers work - are there no cleaners? And anyway - are not tired of measuring the average temperature in the hospital? What matters is not the average salary, but the guaranteed minimum wage, which is in the Russian Federation BELOW LIVING MINIMUM, and at least this hell you live.
                1. Arabist
                  Arabist 9 October 2013 16: 32 New
                  +3
                  To begin with, it’s mainly gas workers. But aren't you tired of throwing demotivators in industrial quantities? Or can’t you do anything more for the country? Salary according to the Labor Code cannot be lower than the subsistence level.
              2. Mature naturalist
                Mature naturalist 9 October 2013 22: 36 New
                0
                Quote: Arabist
                Show me at least one such announcement?

                I haven’t seen any announcements, but they are sharing salaries with the Zhekovsky chiefs. Fact.
          2. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 9 October 2013 16: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: Arabist
            Well, that's right, how many Russians are going to work as janitors?

            Concept "equilibrium labor market price" and the mechanisms of its formation are familiar?
            1. Arabist
              Arabist 9 October 2013 16: 26 New
              0
              Not fully familiar. Interpret?
        2. Realist58
          Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 53 New
          +1
          And did education itself degrade, or did someone degrade it? Probably again the bad boyars are to blame.
          And where will you import highly educated and qualified from?
  25. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 9 October 2013 16: 33 New
    +5
    ----------------------------------
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 9 October 2013 16: 34 New
      0
      Well, what I was talking about.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 9 October 2013 16: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Arabist
        Well, what I was talking about.
        About Russians who do not go to work as janitors and do not go north (the reasons are not considered).

        Quote: Arabist
        To begin with, gas workers are mainly
        I'll know.

        But aren't you tired of throwing demotivators in industrial quantities?
        We have to write less.

        Or can’t you do anything more for the country?
        I still do not define the main directions of policy.

        Salary according to the Labor Code cannot be lower than the subsistence level.
        According to TC - it can’t.

        As for reality - at least for the able-bodied population in the country at the moment 7633, and the minimum wage 5205 - what does this mean?

        Quote: Arabist
        Not fully familiar. Interpret?
        The same as with any product, with the only difference being that in this case, labor is the product, and the employer is the consumer.
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 9 October 2013 17: 00 New
          0
          Will you prove to me that the vast majority gets 5205?
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 9 October 2013 17: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: Arabist
            Will you prove to me that the vast majority gets 5205?

            But for a lawyer there is a difference - are the minorities robbed, or the majority?
            Maybe this is important in determining whether the state is a larger or smaller criminal?
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 9 October 2013 17: 27 New
              +3
              Or maybe you forgot that it is from the minimum wage that average salaries dance and, as a result, household incomes?
            2. Arabist
              Arabist 9 October 2013 17: 30 New
              0
              Of course there is. Didn’t you know? And how, in this case, will the state hold you accountable? The subject of a crime can only be an individual.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 9 October 2013 17: 50 New
                +3
                Quote: Arabist
                The subject of a crime can only be an individual.

                Or a group of people
                1. Arabist
                  Arabist 9 October 2013 17: 52 New
                  +1
                  You forgot to add a group of persons by prior agreement, and even better, the criminal community.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 9 October 2013 18: 20 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Arabist
                    You forgot to add a group of persons by prior agreement, and even better, the criminal community.
                    Just about to, but distracted.

                    Quote: Arabist
                    Of course there is. Didn’t you know?
                    Of course I knew, but in this case this difference is completely unimportant: this is really theft in a particularly large amount (31.5 billion rubles in just 10 months) of a group of persons by prior agreement.

                    And how, in this case, will the state hold you accountable?
                    This can be done by changing the power and the paradigm of "development" - for this, people should understand that what is happening is not normal, and that this is not the fault of the states, the Central Bank, or some kind of liberal wings, but above all the president as the guarantor of the Constitution and the group persons who stand behind him.
                    The task is complicated by the fact that all kinds of old people, Fedorov, prokhanovs, Leontyevs and Arabists are trying to prove that the current situation is normal: they are ready to bear any nonsense, invent any nonsense about the occupation, the Central Bank’s work in the Fed, Putin’s struggle with the liberals appointed by him, etc. P. - just to whiten the black dog in the eyes of people and thereby maintain the existing status quo.
                    1. Arabist
                      Arabist 9 October 2013 18: 22 New
                      0
                      Go to the person? And how are you going to change power?
                      1. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 9 October 2013 18: 26 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Arabist
                        And how are you going to change power?
                        People will understand what's what - it will change itself bully
                      2. Arabist
                        Arabist 9 October 2013 18: 28 New
                        0
                        Well, of course. Blessed is he who believes. hi
                    2. Mature naturalist
                      Mature naturalist 9 October 2013 22: 41 New
                      0
                      Quote: Arabist
                      And how are you going to change power?

                      Power changes when "the upper ones do not want, and the lower classes cannot." Our lower classes can (in families of 2 cars, apartments, villas, apartments in Bulgaria, Turkey, Egypt, Thailand for the new year, May and on vacation), so everything will remain the same.
                    3. New Russia
                      New Russia 9 October 2013 23: 28 New
                      +2
                      "Our lower classes can (in families of 2 cars, apartments, cottages, apartments in Bulgaria, Turkey, Egypt, Thailand for the New Year, May and on vacation)" Are you laughing? 80% of the population have never traveled abroad. Who has 2 cars? What planet are you from
                    4. Mature naturalist
                      Mature naturalist 9 October 2013 23: 38 New
                      0
                      Quote: New Russia
                      80% of the population have never traveled abroad.

                      Have you been abroad? You do not have a car?
                      We are from the same planet and in the same country.

                      Although my 80-year-old mother was not abroad, this is true, but her 70-year-old friend is there with enviable regularity.
                    5. New Russia
                      New Russia 9 October 2013 23: 48 New
                      +1
                      No, it was not) I traveled only around the country. I brought the official statistics I can throw off the link) And I don’t have a car) Maybe in 10-15 years it will be at such a pace)
                    6. Realist58
                      Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 37 New
                      +1
                      Of course in different. You are in the Kremlin, and we are in Russia.
                2. Realist58
                  Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 38 New
                  +1
                  If the six oligarchies, then yes. I am sure that you have all of the above.
  • Papania
    Papania 9 October 2013 16: 40 New
    +6
    Itself is not Russian by nationality, but for the revival of the likeness of the Russian Empire with both hands! Unfortunately, we have to admit that with the current board this is unrealizable! Therefore, for 37 years and feet and hands!
    1. alone
      alone 9 October 2013 17: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Papania
      Itself is not Russian by nationality, but for the revival of the likeness of the Russian Empire with both hands! Unfortunately, we have to admit that with the current board this is unrealizable! Therefore, for 37 years and feet and hands!


      judging by the history, all those who shouted that the country should be strengthened and strengthened ended up being the first to be shot in the 37th)))
      1. Realist58
        Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 33 New
        0
        Yes?! whom for example ??????
  • sergant89
    sergant89 9 October 2013 17: 19 New
    +4
    Quote: Arabist
    Show me at least one such announcement? Where did you see him? And why didn’t they go to the North? Novy Urengoy average salary 70000.

    Do not tell tales about the average salary in N. Urengoy I live from him 220km, and why you do not voice the price of housing from 3.5-4mln.rub for a one-room apartment or rent housing from 30ty.rub, and HOW to get to this salary without a shaggy hand ", relatives, or high-ranking friends.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 9 October 2013 17: 37 New
      +1
      I’m not a service for labor and employment. My friend works, though not in Urengoy, but near Vorkuta (locksmith-90000). What else can I do for you (voice, write, underline the missing to enter)? In Krasnodar, there are also such rates for renting a living-live.
  • Pancreas
    Pancreas 9 October 2013 17: 35 New
    +1
    For VIP-officials have to remember the 37th year! Otherwise it will not work!




    Excellent offer, the main thing is who will execute the punishment and who will determine the VIP?
  • nod739
    nod739 9 October 2013 19: 45 New
    +3
    what kind of historical creativity, a synthesis of the best national experience and ideas, what understanding of our cultural, spiritual, political traditions can be talked about ???
    talk with youth what does she see?
    she’s being taught about cultural spiritual values ​​... and an example to follow? - in the media, on TV, a guy, obscenity, mockery, in the news - black - who killed whom - and in all details ... on the street, in the courtyard they talk to him, and no one condemns anyone, especially maloli that’s on his mind, then they’ll show you in the state of emergency report, so no one will stop, with rare exceptions: To become famous among your own people has become the norm, to beat someone or scratch a car - to take off everything video, put it on the Internet, who will surpass someone, and the TV shows it all, yes, censuring, but the youth watch and answer: I’ll do better (the witness of such an answer myself). Praising the West on the TV, showing their films, and haya our - we planted grain in them, our own sediment, but there it is better ....
    and there are not a few of them, every time I try to prove something to someone that we have everything to do, that we have something to be proud of, but they accuse me of being a retrograde, and this is supposedly only my point of view, and the truth is different. they say listen to TV and see that on the street, earth and sky .... they are probably partly right, but this is "partly", unfortunately, perceived as 100% true.
    fish rots from the head as you know
    order first of all you need to start with television cinema and the Internet, I'm for censorship
  • stranik72
    stranik72 9 October 2013 20: 03 New
    +2
    Speech (the philosophical top-maneuver of the modern formation, which is ordinary), there are a lot of smart, beautiful, ideologically and logically built thoughts that are consonant with the aspirations of the people of Russia (bravo speechwriter). That's just for almost 15 years of being at the very top of power, real steps have been taken minimum-minimum. By their deeds you will find out who they are. So with Russianness in Russia, problems have already stepped into the category of insoluble.
  • spirit
    spirit 9 October 2013 20: 13 New
    +4
    In a word MOLE

    In the case of the former head of the Moscow Federal Property Management Agency Anatoly Shesteryuk, suspected of involvement in the theft of 120 real estate worth more than 10 billion rubles, there was an unexpected turn.
    The former official and other suspects - the ex-chairman of the board of Moscow Capital Viktor Krestin and entrepreneur Olga Wozniak - have been charged with embezzlement, Kommersant writes. Now, only three land plots with gas stations remained in business. Suspects do not plead guilty to theft of these real estate.


    A. Shesteryuk's biography deserves special attention. The future official lived in St. Petersburg in the same courtyard with the current president, Vladimir Putin. Subsequently, they turned out to be fellow students at the Law University of Leningrad University.

    Upon graduation, A. Shesteryuk remained in alma mater, where he continued his academic career. He moved to Moscow in 2003. and soon became head of the department for the sale of military property to be released at the Russian Federal Property Fund. In 2008 headed the territorial administration of the Federal Property Management Agency for Moscow. A. Shesteryuk left the post in 2012. in connection with retirement.
  • sprut
    sprut 9 October 2013 21: 25 New
    0
    I AM RUSSIAN! What a delight!
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  • saag
    saag 9 October 2013 21: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey M
    Rosto Putin needs to determine for himself with whom he is with the People (Winner, builder, breadwinner, defender) or with the people (oligarchs

    Well, presumably before the World Cup, he is with oligophrenics. and then...
  • Irokez
    Irokez 9 October 2013 22: 39 New
    +3
    I read all the comments and came to the conclusion about the different knowledge and opinions of the members of the forum, but the following thoughts flashed:
    - GDP has done nothing and is marking time;
    - He is guilty of all sins;
    - Engaged in chatter and self-PR;
    - Speaks correctly, but vice versa;

    I want to note the following:
    There is a certain analogy with Ivan the Terrible, Stalin, and him directly about the next, that they were to blame for everything at the time. Okay, with Ivan the Terrible there was a time of troubles there and we don’t know for sure who all the same rules were there all this time, but everything was blamed on the king who was strongly believing Christian (such behavior of the Orthodox is doubtful).
    “Everything that could be done for revolution and reprisals was hanged on Stalin, but we don’t know well, and some forgot that Stalin only began to establish industrialization after Trotsky’s deportation and even after that he fought a lot with Trotsky’s supporters and there repression went not only from Stalin to the group of Trotskyists, and this group itself slaughtered the Stalinists worse, but history, as always, puts all the trouble on someone else.
    - And so it turns out right now, Hunchback was brewing porridge, Yeltsin completed and built the system necessary for the collapse with lobbyists in this system, and the GDP fell into this system. But as always happens, the boy is not obedient and began to act up on his own mind and snap back and digesting Mr. Medvedev began to bend his line while fighting the Yeltsin built system. But the trouble is that it is impossible to do everything right away, quickly, efficiently with POPULAR measures and solutions for people. And there are shifts, they will continue, but with his appeals and appeals he says the right things and indicates his aspiration and ideas and tells you all that you too shouldn’t sleep and would also promote such ideas in the places and first of all become the same SAMI, and then would poke a finger at others, they say they are, and I'm bald. If this article had been before the elections, then I think he would have won the election without a fuss right now. But I ask you not to think too narrowly and selfishly, think more broadly not with your personal interests, but really with the thoughts of society and the state (it’s just global thoughts), and everything else will gradually come and stretch others to the bright oases of these ideas and appeals.
    Look how the maneuvers of Putin and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs with Syria were a mistake - it’s the highest pilot (I can’t make such a word) and in the world they talked about it very enthusiastically with a way out of the military impasse and this is a huge plus for the Russian idea and Russia as a whole. And the fact that inside the country so far, if not CHAOS, but confusion, we ourselves are to blame for this locally, because he cannot wipe every ass and the lobbyists of the old guard against whom right now the GDP is going on just won't go back and there are still many sticks in wheels will be especially from iPhone.
    Sudden movements can’t be done right now - it’s dangerous, because you have to look at corruption scandals through your fingers and with gritting teeth, but the country now knows its heroes and this is the main thing and they’ll get theirs not right there.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 9 October 2013 23: 34 New
      +2
      "There is a certain analogy with Ivan the Terrible, Stalin, and him directly about the next, that they are to blame for everything in due time."
      He is the president of the country! “GDP fell into this system. But as always, a boy is not obedient and has started to act up and snap back on his own mind.” He’s been acting up for 15 years!) And where are his moods? On all anti-people laws his signature. If he really wants to change something but cannot, then he is worthless and miserable
    2. Realist58
      Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Irokez
      Sudden movements can’t be done right now - it’s dangerous, because you have to look at corruption scandals through your fingers and with gritting teeth, but the country now knows its heroes and this is the main thing and they’ll get theirs not right there.

      Yes, that's for sure. Scary to the guarantor.
      Suddenly you’ll plant some thief-drugan, and then on you, he will bring the anal army of the hamsters and crush the mighty forever power ...

      My dear, do you have an hourly or piece rate for each post ???
  • Irokez
    Irokez 9 October 2013 22: 39 New
    +1
    And more:
    The patience of the sir and madam, he says everything correctly and the work is going on, though slowly, but in the right direction and it is necessary, it is necessary, it is necessary to say at least for now without visible steps, but the right things and words will do their job and the Phoenix or Firebird plate will gradually begin to revive (Russia if it is not clear to anyone) and engraved to believe because thoughts and faith are material and energetically affect thoughts and consciousness, which is manifested in the actions of people. If someone did not know how thoughts and ideas work, then know it all starts with thoughts, ideas and faith, and then the action begins. In this way, all the blue-pink revolutions go, but so do our ideas.
    I wish everyone to draw the right conclusions and not work for their EGO, but first of all for society, despite the fact that they will boo, harass and humiliate for such matters, but they are the most important and useful for everyone. Be the mind and mind above the deceived and selfish crowd and you yourself will see how everything is managed in society and who knows how to manage, that moves the society both in the right (moral and spiritual direction), so unfortunately and negative (egotistical) direction.
    - Be reasonable and look for points of convergence, not alienation.
    - Put out the fire of discord, and do not add gasoline there.
    - Compliance and generosity is not weakness, but rationality and strength.
    - Truth and truth are stronger than deceit and lies.
    - Spirituality and morality are higher than spirituality and immorality.
    Think about it yourself, you live by such principles, and if not, then the GDP for you has outlined the path - go for it.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 9 October 2013 23: 35 New
      +3
      "The patience of sir and madam, he says everything correctly and work is going on, albeit slowly, but in the right direction"
      WTO, the collapse of education, increasing migration, covering Serdyukov Skrynnik and others .... Is this the right direction?
    2. Realist58
      Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 23 New
      +1
      Let's give friends, you only need to believe.
      As long as you believe, my brothers and I ........... will sell your resources, and when we sell everything, you are LOOKING for this money, happily.
  • Sreben
    Sreben 9 October 2013 23: 25 New
    +4
    In fact, who is Russian? This is a person accepting Russian culture! It does not matter who he is by nationality, if a Chechen is ready to say that he is Russian, then he is Russian a priori, because Russianness is determined not by nationality but by state of mind! Even a crest and Belarus, even though the Slavs can say that they are not Russian in this regard, would rather trust a Chechen who considers himself RUSSIAN !!! But a crest for the sake of fat can also stab a knife in the back, although it is also difficult to trust the Chechen, nevertheless it is better not to keep him behind his back and always be ready. The result is that there is no one to rely on the Russian, only on himself !!!
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    2. New Russia
      New Russia 9 October 2013 23: 54 New
      +2
      "if the Chechen is ready to say that he is Russian" Show me this Chechen) On the first channel and not so show hahaha
      1. givargi
        givargi 10 October 2013 10: 30 New
        0
        chechenec ne skazhet chto on russkii, no on dolzhen nazyvat 'ROSIIU rodinoi. Na eto dolzhna idti nemalaya energia obshestva. oni dolzhny ponyat 'chto vne granicax rossiiskoi federacii chechne budet xudo. te ktorye etovo ne poimut, pust ix i budut repressirovat. mezhdu prochem, stalin znal chto delal kogda ix vo vremena voini v kazaxstane pereselil.
    3. Realist58
      Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 20 New
      0
      Show me a Chechen dancing "Lady", under a stack of half a bar, and bite a piece of bacon with onions and bread, and I will agree to the adoption of Russian culture.
  • Irokez
    Irokez 9 October 2013 23: 38 New
    +3
    Quote: Sreben
    In fact, who is Russian? This is a person accepting Russian culture! It does not matter who he is by nationality, if a Chechen is ready to say that he is Russian, then he is Russian a priori, because Russianness is determined not by nationality but by state of mind! Even a crest and Belarus, even though the Slavs can say that they are not Russian in this regard, would rather trust a Chechen who considers himself RUSSIAN !!! But a crest for the sake of fat can also stab a knife in the back, although it is also difficult to trust the Chechen, nevertheless it is better not to keep him behind his back and always be ready. The result is that there is no one to rely on the Russian, only on himself !!!

    And that is a fact. The world is mired in lies and betrayal and you need to rely only on yourself. Even among the Slavs there is little trust, except perhaps for Belarusians and Ukrainians, but Ukraine is already turning its nose into a geyropa. Although among all peoples there are both normal and abnormal, it is also impossible to measure all by some geeks. But the state of mind, yes, is a force that a tolerant West cannot understand.
  • Irokez
    Irokez 10 October 2013 00: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: New Russia
    "If he really wants to change something but cannot, then he is worthless and miserable

    This is only your subjective opinion. It’s a pity you aren’t there, but we didn’t know what it was.
    A man wanted to leave the room, but then the door and forward did not open. So the smart and understanding person will step back, open the door and move on. And only idiots are breaking through and this is a big mistake and a waste of effort and money. But you can also suffer.
    Learn to think and think and look more broadly at what is happening, taking into account not only the processes within the country, but throughout the world because they are intertwined and tied to disgrace. Someone is sneezing in the Kremlin - from the states they will call and ask "Who sneezed"? So it is necessary to gradually cut off all the ropes and weaves.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 10 October 2013 00: 24 New
      +1
      "Learn to think and think and look more broadly at what is happening," I wish you the same. In addition to chatter, there is nothing patriotic in this government. If Putin did not say a couple of speeches about the greatness of Russia, which have nothing to do with business, you would not believe in it. They spit in everyone’s face without hesitation and you are looking for hidden meaning in their affairs. Putin will go down in history as the man who brought the country to the revolution with monstrous corruption and ethnobandism. By the way, judging by your words, you still do not know the latest economic statistics)
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 10 October 2013 18: 37 New
        0
        I understood you. You can do nothing but pour dirt on the GDP. They say the truth, no mind, go to ped. There will be no revolution. You deserve such a life, since you do nothing to change it. The probability of revolution is now equal to zero, the country is not sliding into the abyss. The president of Zimbabwe was a school teacher. Do you know how it ended?
        1. Realist58
          Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 08 New
          0
          These you cannot.
          And we can.
          We work, raise children, performed and are fulfilling our civic duty.
    2. Realist58
      Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 12 New
      0
      And shto, why the Kremlin is afraid, except for the closure of their Swiss and other accounts ???
      That, the evil American-American will arrive on the tank and hang Putin as Saddam, or ....... as Gaddafi?
  • shurup
    shurup 10 October 2013 00: 27 New
    +3
    The article is a repost of Putin’s Valdai speech, which in turn is a repost of an unspecified source, designed for a Western consumer.
    Being able to correctly put the right words in the right sentences does not mean being literate.
    It would be better if he told us how to reorganize Rabkrin.
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 10 October 2013 23: 38 New
      +1
      Rabkrin - a body to control the people of officials. Further, I think it is clear that Putin will never even say this, because such control by the people to the person whom this gentleman represents and whom he actually works for is not even needed in a nightmare :)
  • givargi
    givargi 10 October 2013 10: 20 New
    -1
    Ya ne ponimaiu chevo xotyat Russkie ot Putina.

    V Rossii seichas kapitalizm. A kapitalizm et ZAKONNAYA KORRUPCYA. V Amerike sploshnaya Korrupcya v bolshom biznese. Nikto nichevo ne stroit bez uzakonenyx vzyatok (kickbacks). Zde's dazhe kodex takoi, ochen legko davat 'legalnye vzyatki.
    A yesli segodnya Stalin by voskres am bolshnstvo russkix stali by emu v "oppozicii." Vy sami xotite kapitalizm, a potom krichite chto vezde korrupcya.

    Russia ... has always evolved as a “blossoming complexity”, as a civilization state held together by the Russian people,
    Eto absoliutno pravilno. Rossya eto IDYEA a ne tolko gosudarstvo. Eto ideya za kotory stoyat mnogie narody mira, i ischiut priut ot NeoBarbarisma zapada (eto ixnye nravy kotorye portyat molodiozh Rosii, eot oni vsyakuyu raz i gadost 'izobretaiut i po vsemu miru afishirui modern)
    Segodnya RF et poslednee prstranstvo v mire gde vsio ischio starayutsya soxranit 'korennye cennosti chelovechestva (i Putinu Uvazhenie za eto). Evo uvazhauyt i liubyat millinoy vo vsiom mire. Dazhe mnogie amerikanci govoryat, vot xot 'by nash prezident byl takim ...

    Yesli by vy znali s kakoi nenavistiu i zloboy otnosytsya k segodnyashnei Rossii zapadnye smi (dlya nix luchshe ne govorit chem skazat's chto nibud polozhitelnoe o rosii) ... Vy posmotrite kak amerikanci Sochi 2014 translirovat 'budut, pozhaluista smotrite CNN i merkanskie SMI vo vitmy ovitkit olimpiady kovyovit uvidite kovit uk uvidit klim rosii. Kak liudi yajobi v nischete i straxe zhivut. Oni ne budut pokazyvat 'kadri dge vidno "grandeur" rossii, gde chuvstvuetsya sila rossiiskoi ekonomiki.
    V rossii segodnya liudi zhivut luchshe chem v Portugalii, Ispanii, Grecii, Irlandii, a Amerikanci dumaiut chto rossia zhiviot kak meksika ...
    i dazhe zdes' v amerike stolko nischety, millioni zhivut kak nechelovechii skot! Takoi nischeti, degradacii cheloveka iz za neimenia deneg v rosii NIGDE NET!
    Protiv Rossii segodnya idiot moshneishaya ekonomicheskaya voina, pryamo kak vo vremena CCCP (my dazhe ne znali nastolko CCCP na zapade nenavideli). Yesli xotite chtob Rossyu ne razrushili, nuzhno rabotat 'na vossoedinenie postsovetskovo pronstratva (mozhet byt bez tadzhikov, turkmenev i uzebokov, i baltiiskix batrakov) v edinni voenno-ekonomichesichoyostyot oyot kovyot
    1. shurup
      shurup 10 October 2013 11: 16 New
      -2
      America understands what Putin wants. In Russia, no, but each in its own way is trying to guess. When they guess together, they will say what they want from him. Then they will either drive away or put up a monument.
      I hope that corruption will be legalized in Russia, but it will be called differently and taxes will be paid from it.
      Dumb and stoned "blacks" are in Russia. Just Russians slowly harness, but then quickly beat their faces. If Putin at this moment pretends that he did not notice, then this is one of what the Russians want from him.
      And the fact that the war against Russia is being waged is still visible with the naked eye, but Israel can be accepted into the post-Soviet space instead of the Baltic farm laborers. They will agree on security guarantees and customs preferences, I think so.
      They don’t like Russians for this - chestnuts themselves from the fire do not drag with the wrong hands and do not give to others.
      1. Uhe
        Uhe 10 October 2013 23: 45 New
        +1
        You don’t understand how Russian differs, say, from Chinese and other Asians. Russian does not accept corruption in any of its forms. Russian law was called "Russian Truth." Russians live in truth, unite in the state according to the law, truth, and Asians - according to corruption schemes. Not for nothing that Confucius fought for so many years against this system, and then they fought against the very ideas of Confucius. But the Russians understood this. As an Asian woman came to our land, our state immediately decayed and collapsed. As they again returned to the Russian path of Truth, there was an immediate rise.

        Any foreign words cloud the mind of Russians, replace concepts. So with your "corruption", "legalize." Speak Russian, and all the beauty of meaning will appear before you;)

        So what is corruption that you propose to legitimize? Let's look into the dictionary, if we don’t know. This is decomposition, above all. Do you propose legalizing the corruption of an official? That is, you are pleased that you are ruled by all scum that has lost the human image? Rejecting the Truth, living by Krivda? Oh well. It follows from your speech that you yourself are far from a Russian person;) And is it a person at all? .. Of those, apparently, who have corruption of the brain and body.
  • kargrom
    kargrom 10 October 2013 21: 21 New
    0
    Russian, 42, without bad habits, 3rd daughters, but I like it!
  • Realist58
    Realist58 10 October 2013 23: 04 New
    0
    I will throw my national idea.
    The Russian state was created by its citizens, to ensure collective and comprehensive security of citizens.
    One of the greatest dangers for the state is greed and money-grubbing. Greed creates inequality, predatory use of camp resources for personal interests, deterioration of the health of citizens and the quality of the environment.
    The state must fight greed by limiting the maximum income of a particular citizen.
    The sale of all raw materials both domestically and for export is the exclusive right of the state.
  • Uhe
    Uhe 10 October 2013 23: 48 New
    +1
    There are people of the word: said - fulfilled, and this: the man of words - a lot of words, and no deeds on these words, but just the opposite. Man lives according to Krivda, does not know the Truth. Not a Russian person, therefore, he reasoned on an object that he not only did not understand, but also hated. A sad sight.
  • sergeymend
    sergeymend 15 October 2013 15: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Uhe
    So with your "corruption", "legalize." Speak Russian, and all the beauty of meaning will appear before you

    in every language there are borrowed words, they also include “corruption” “legalize”. Moreover, sometimes it’s difficult to find the right synonym. Moreover, a person who has a place of residence - America writes