Sweet love of Ukraine to the West?

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Sweet love of Ukraine to the West?


I recently experienced a sense of deja vu of 90's, just in a different form. Here is a commercial that is presented below, has been walking on Ukrainian screens for almost a month now. Sometimes it seems to me that in a state called Ukraine, I have only one retained common sense, memory and consciousness. What audience is it intended for? I think without translation into Russian, everyone will be funny and understandable:

Abstracts roller What is a contract with the EU for each of you?:

- salary and pension in 5 times;
-children will study in European universities;
-free movement in Europe;
-new jobs and investments;
-independent courts;
-new technologies
- we will live on 15 years longer




Only one thing is not clear - who will stop this orgy and when? People? As a person who has repeatedly worked in the election headquarters at the local level, I can responsibly argue that no one would broadcast such a commercial without prior serious analysis of public interests and requests in the country. This is not about ideological choice: “East-West” or about certain political paradigms, but first of all that low-profile consumer reflexes and animal desires prevail today. Unfortunately, I came across people who still think conditionally: "The West will help us." But I think that they are a minority, although of course I cannot check it scientifically and academically.

Thus, if this is not a stupid banter, and not ignoring the opinion of the majority of the people, then we become witnesses to the fall of the political culture of society and economic thinking in Ukraine. And then what? Candy on the way to polling stations? Like a joke ?! Personally, I, as a citizen of Ukraine, offended this video. I immediately remembered my childhood at the beginning of 90, where I and the guys using chewing gum and sneakers felt like Americans, too. But she left the foam ...

PS Guys, I'm not friends with video editing, but somebody, please make a cut from the cadre, where the residents of Bulgaria this year are going to protest against expensive electricity and a closed nuclear power plant at the request of the EU, where the plight is in Hungary and the Baltic states. And Romanians, who despite Schengen, are afraid to let in France and the UK. Those poor even want to change the name of their country. Caricature of sprats from Latvian Gastribreters, too, do not forget, after all, a solid English newspaper tried. And of course LGBT, today it’s a ticket to the “civilized” world. And all this is synchronous under the words of the superior politician from the video about the European banks of Ukraine for Ukraine.
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  1. +16
    9 October 2013 06: 56
    Touching about an honest court, but before entering it means that the courts are completely not honest, that’s what they have admitted to the whole world. Well, of course, the pension will be out of the pockets of taxpayers throughout Europe, will be thrown off for Ukraine, they will not regret it, but then they will take it back with a trinity
    1. +26
      9 October 2013 07: 11
      Kaaarrrrsss, waking up faster, all the paradise you oversleep about which I told you yesterday laughing
      salary and pension are 5 times more;
      -children will study in European universities;
      -free movement in Europe;
      -new jobs and investments;
      -independent courts;
      -new technologies
      - we will live on 15 years longer

      His mother is by the foot, and they don’t even dream of such a thing even in Germany wassat
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      2. +20
        9 October 2013 07: 46
        They forgot to attribute the following list of abstracts here:
        - Debauchery of children by homosexuals,
        - Paid medicine,
        - Juvenile justice,
        - Chronic debt crisis (this will definitely affect Ukraine),
        - Autobahns that the Germans will selflessly build throughout Ukraine, laughing
        - Mosques in every Ukrainian city, and "Alah Akbar" at 8 in the morning on the matyugalnik from the minarets,
        - Crowds of Arab "refugees".

        In my opinion, I have not forgotten anything.
        1. 0
          9 October 2013 08: 52
          the main attraction is the photo on the background of the Eiffel Tower for your page in Odnoklassniki !!! because not everyone can get a visa, and so everyone will be equal and everyone will be able to go. After all, coolness !!!
        2. MG42
          +4
          9 October 2013 17: 34
          Quote: Canep
          Debauchery of children by homosexuals

          Nothing will change here since we have long had a unilateral visa-free regime for EU citizens introduced under Yushchenko ..
          Quote: Canep
          Paid medicine

          Like now it's free .. laughing Only a primary examination unless in the clinic and then the gloves do not forget to buy shoe covers for the hospital is still a voluntary contribution for hospitalization, for starters only .. All procedures are Ultrasound, X-ray, etc. all at a separate rate ..
          It’s free so far only a ward for 8 beds, some kind of grandfather for strong nerves will settle who will wash metal toes in the washbasin at 4 in the morning, enjoy, you want peace and quiet, pay for a separate ward with plasma on the wall ..
          Quote: Canep
          Chronic debt crisis (this will definitely affect Ukraine)

          There has been such a thing in Ukraine since 1992, the peak of payments is just 2013 ..
          Quote: Canep
          Mosques in every Ukrainian city, and "Alah Akbar" at 8 in the morning by the matyugalnik from the minarets

          It’s a lie. In Crimea, in other cities, their percentage is small ..
          Quote: Canep
          Crowds of Arab "refugees".

          Now there are many Arabs' students, as for migrants, it’s just that they are coming from Russia, to be honest, Russia transits for Central Asia, as well as Ukraine in the future, some really settle in local bazaars, but still tear their claws further into the EU .. for now income level does not equal do not worry ..
        3. +1
          9 October 2013 17: 38
          Quote: Canep
          Debauchery of children by homosexuals

          Really? Maybe now there are no homosexuals in Ukraine? And the article about homosexuals from the decree has long been canceled)))))))
          Quote: Canep
          Paid medicine

          Is it free now?
          Quote: Canep
          Juvenile justice,

          Are you sure this is bad?
          Quote: Canep
          Chronic debt crisis

          and now not so?
          Quote: Canep
          Autobahns that the Germans will selflessly build throughout Ukraine
          it would be enough that they would not steal during the construction now.

          Quote: Canep
          - Mosques in every Ukrainian city, and "Alah Akbar" at 8 in the morning on the matyugalnik from the minarets,
          with what joy?

          Quote: Canep
          Crowds of Arab "refugees".
          What did they forget in Ukraine? They all went there - to a decaying Europe.
        4. Stamp
          +3
          9 October 2013 19: 01
          Quote: Canep
          Autobahns that the Germans will selflessly build throughout Ukraine

          Only birds sing for free.
          The highway Lviv - Ternopil 2013 made repairs for Euro 2012 - so far.
          1. MG42
            +2
            9 October 2013 19: 49
            Quote: Stamp
            The highway Lviv - Ternopil 2013 did repairs for Euro 2012

            the video was shot by one of the leaders of the coming out rock music Scriabin >>
            These shots were shot during a four-hour trip along the route Mikola-Kalush-Ivano-Frankivsk-Ternopil
            -Kremenets-Dubno-Lutsk.
            We moved exclusively on central tracks! Imagine what is being done outside of them >>
            These are the Westerners, given the many beauties under the snow more >>
      3. v.lyamkin
        +1
        9 October 2013 12: 18
        I want, want, want ... And so on.
      4. +5
        9 October 2013 13: 33
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Kaaarrrrsss, waking up faster, all the paradise you oversleep about which I told you yesterday laughing
        salary and pension are 5 times more;
        -children will study in European universities;
        -free movement in Europe;
        -new jobs and investments;
        -independent courts;
        -new technologies
        - we will live on 15 years longer

        His mother is by the foot, and they don’t even dream of such a thing even in Germany wassat



        Kars, here it is, the promise of paradise on your land!
      5. +1
        9 October 2013 17: 34
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Kaaarrrrsss, waking up faster, all the paradise you oversleep about which I told you yesterday

        Well, you're like a little one. This is not Europe and Yatsenyuk promises)))

        And I personally don’t see anything wrong with these promises,

        and if someone starts a propaganda video for Tc - will they promise the other way around? Less live for 15 years and so on.
        N-yes, I thought you were a little smarter.
    2. vadimus
      +7
      9 October 2013 08: 12
      Europe itself is the last horseradish without salt eats. Well, they won’t give money, they won’t give! There is a purely political motive and not a gram more.
  2. +6
    9 October 2013 07: 03
    Yes, let the rod go there, the topic is paid for by the oligarchs, then the people will feel all the delights of integration.
    1. +9
      9 October 2013 07: 14
      PS Guys, I’m not friends with video editing, but someone, please make a cut from personnel where this year the residents of Bulgaria protest against expensive electricity and a closed nuclear power plant at the request of the EU, where the deplorable state of affairs in Hungary and the Baltic states is. And the Romanians, who, despite the Schengen, are afraid to let into France and Great Britain
      Dear author, but what does this change? Any person with a sound mind and so understands how this will end.
      1. +5
        9 October 2013 10: 18
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        [B]
        Dear author, but what does this change? Any person with a sound mind and so understands how this will end.


        Try to stop the catastrophe ... sad
        1. +4
          9 October 2013 10: 23
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Try to stop the catastrophe

          Here is such a Kars, your compatriot. Try to prove to him that all this will lead to disaster, he is confident that everything will be in chocolate.
          1. +3
            9 October 2013 10: 35
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Here is such a Kars, your compatriot.


            and he immediately sends it to the "black list", I have never communicated with him and immediately to "ignore", land, fuck.
            1. +1
              9 October 2013 11: 17
              Quote: seller trucks
              and he immediately sends it to the "black list",

              No, while we communicate
              1. +2
                9 October 2013 11: 27
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                No, while we communicate


                Alexander, at one time my opponent was from Simferopol to political forums "Bramis" was clicked, so he sent half the forum to the blacklist, and then disappeared to communicate with no one, I really thought it was a sinful thing if he settled here?
        2. avt
          +3
          9 October 2013 10: 39
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Try to stop the disaster.

          Will not work . Here just now we talked on TV, and so, "comrades from the localities", it seems they are not quite Westerners, so happily informed us that they will give us a loan for the association! Our uncle so tiredly replies to them - the guys say, sign and you will fulfill, and the loan is for you may be so zamyl, it must be coordinated with the 28 EU members, so you can be thrown at any time. Well, the Independents in chorus - no, no, it can't be because it can't be. Well, how to explain? standing next to those in power, shining with a muzzle in a box and already believing in everyone. You will not prove anything by the example of the Bulgarians, alas. If God wants to punish someone, it deprives him of reason.
    2. Captain Vrungel
      -14
      9 October 2013 08: 51
      Not a day without Ukraine!
      Guys!
      Let's get distracted.
      Guess where the real one is?
      Hesitating?
      So our "guarantor" is incomprehensible in his actions. Where is he real?
      Like Yatsenyuk, Senya Rabbit, "Shiri Ukrainian" from the Jordan Valley residents, like the majority in all branches of government, including the leader of the ultra-nationalists.
      1. +9
        9 October 2013 09: 27
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        So our "guarantor" is incomprehensible in his actions. Where is he real?

        Shaw, we already have three Putin belay Pass this news to Obama laughing
        And when they will yell Russia without Putin, we will ask them a question, and without which wassat
      2. +6
        9 October 2013 10: 22
        Captain Vrungel, something you do not recognize!? what Why do you jump from the topic? Our country ... Vaughn is already preparing the ground for juveniles, according to the zombie STB they show how badly some families raise children, and in the studio the experts complain that there is no law for representatives to enter the private housing of citizens to control what values children are brought up.
        1. zmey_gadukin
          -1
          9 October 2013 10: 50
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          what values ​​are brought up by children.

          And there is something in this ... at my first job, I saw enough of children living in "pigsties" sleeping on the floor on a pissing mattress and eating from a garbage can ... and next to my mother, who was smeared with a "screw", which children, basically, do not care ...
          1. +1
            9 October 2013 10: 54
            zmey_gadukin That's just the point, there are problems, but it will end with these:



            Then they will come and take away the girl because of a trifle ...
            1. zmey_gadukin
              -4
              9 October 2013 11: 12
              I would not be so categorical, dear.
              This is exactly YOUR fears ... call, by the way, talk. Well, or let someone from the local call, and then tell.
              1. +2
                9 October 2013 11: 20
                Quote: zmey_gadukin
                I would not be so categorical, dear.
                These are YOUR fears.

                But don’t you really want to look at the statistics in scrap and see how the system works. Although ssy in the eye is real fool
                1. zmey_gadukin
                  -2
                  9 October 2013 11: 39
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  But don’t you really want to look at the statistics in scrap and see how the system works. Although ssy in the eye is real

                  Rude is not necessary dear
                  What will statistics give me? Does it display exactly how many illegally selected children? Do not make me laugh...
          2. +2
            9 October 2013 11: 19
            Quote: zmey_gadukin
            And there is something ..

            Yeah, there is, only they are not very worried about the children living in the "pigsty", and taken away from quite prosperous families
            1. zmey_gadukin
              0
              9 October 2013 11: 47
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yeah, there is, only they are not very worried about the children living in the "pigsty", and taken away from quite prosperous families

              Well, yes, really, as you said there: "at least a piss in the eye"? and only the good ones are taken away. Just. Wanted - they took it and took it away.
              1. +2
                9 October 2013 11: 54
                Quote: zmey_gadukin
                . Just. Wanted - have taken and taken away.

                Well, why just like that, because my mom made her wash her hands before eating. The neighbors squealed, but no one will check whether it is so or not. Because dad yelled at the child. Juvenile is a business for children! If it really worried you, then you would know it.
                1. zmey_gadukin
                  -1
                  9 October 2013 12: 03
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  you would know that.

                  Yes, I already know all this, unlike you, I was convinced from my own experience.
                  But I just pointed out that you should not mow all under one comb.
                  This is at least stupid.
                  1. +1
                    9 October 2013 12: 12
                    Quote: zmey_gadukin
                    Yes, I already know all this, unlike you,

                    Oh well, then tell me how many children were taken from families in the US last year? And then we'll go around Europe
                    1. Corneli
                      0
                      9 October 2013 14: 12
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Oh well, then tell me how many children were taken from families in the US last year? And then we'll go around Europe

                      That's right, pan of novels, no new and dumb laws are needed, nothing terrible that a lot of children live in the devil's conditions (as the viper wrote). Whatever you care about these kids, it's neither cold nor hot. Therefore, there is no need to adopt any laws, otherwise they will adopt and appear "juvenile", they will immediately start taking children from normal families, chopping cabbage. So let the children from the families of drug addicts and Bukharians live in inhuman conditions, die, become addicts, prostitutes, drunks, criminals and other "citizens" necessary for society. But there will be no "juvenile"! And people like you can sleep peacefully!
                      I would spit those in the face, a pan of novels, for your bestiality. Yes xs where are you there ...
                    2. zmey_gadukin
                      -1
                      9 October 2013 14: 16
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Oh well, then tell me how many children were taken from families in the US last year? And then we'll go around Europe

                      All your problem, Alexander, that while living in Russia, you constantly look at the West and for some reason try to turn arrows there. And I ask you to open your eyes to what is happening with us.
                      But for you, the main thing is statistics, right?
                      Well, on the Ukrainians, one more time to spit.
                      You’re a shitty moderator, Sasha ... shitty.
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                      2. 0
                        9 October 2013 14: 45
                        zmey_gadukin Quote: Your whole problem, Alexander, that while living in Russia, you constantly look at the West and for some reason try to transfer arrows there. And I ask you to open your eyes to what is happening with us.

                        You are right at 100% zmey_gadukin, there is nothing to "move the arrows to the West", you need to "open your eyes" to what is happening you in Ukraine...

                        Kaaakoy GOOD MODERATOR wassat laughing
                      3. zmey_gadukin
                        -1
                        9 October 2013 18: 43
                        you caught me ... I just won’t get used to it
                        I certainly meant Russia
                      4. 0
                        10 October 2013 05: 53
                        Quote: zmey_gadukin
                        you caught me ... I just won’t get used to it

                        But you need to get used to it. L.D. Kuchma hammered you: Ukraine is NOT Russia...
                        YOU ... Ignorant laughing
                        Moreover, now you are preparing to become note Europeans ...
                      5. Corneli
                        -1
                        9 October 2013 19: 09
                        Quote: Corsair
                        You are 100% right zmey_gadukin, there is nothing to "move the arrows to the West", you need to "open your eyes" to what is happening in your Ukraine ...

                        Vyzh recently wrote that you are from Ukraine (in terms of living here) or "Are you" doing well in Ukraine?)
                      6. -1
                        10 October 2013 05: 44
                        Quote: Corneli
                        (in the plan you live here)

                        Yes HERE, in the "plan", in one of the regions of Russia, where they "gag" and "shock" like in the East of Ukraine - GOOD ...

                      7. +1
                        9 October 2013 17: 33
                        Quote: zmey_gadukin
                        Your whole problem, Alexander, that while living in Russia, you constantly look to the West

                        I watch how not to live!
                        Quote: zmey_gadukin
                        . And I ask you to open your eyes to what is happening with us.

                        You have enough historical experience to follow your own path, and not to take an example from the west, especially since it is not the best.
                        Quote: zmey_gadukin
                        But for you, the main thing is statistics, right?

                        If, according to statistics, a car breaks down constantly and everyone tells you that, you won’t buy it.
                        Quote: zmey_gadukin
                        Well, on the Ukrainians, one more time to spit.

                        To your government, yes.
                        Quote: zmey_gadukin
                        You’re a shitty moderator, Sasha ... shitty.

                        Well, what is it, for all you will not be good
                      8. zmey_gadukin
                        0
                        9 October 2013 18: 54
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        I watch how not to live!

                        you didn’t live there and I'm afraid that you weren’t there))))))))))

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Quote: zmey_gadukin. And I ask you to open your eyes to what is happening with us. You have enough historical experience to follow your own path, and not to take an example from the west, especially since it is not the best.

                        Then I made a mistake, I meant Russia of course.

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        If, according to statistics, a car breaks down constantly and everyone tells you that, you won’t buy it.

                        Statistics is a delicate matter. If it is not conducted in Russia or hushed up, for example, then everything will be buzzing! Since statistics say so, it means that children in Russia are not offended or not illegally taken away at all ... Paradise in general)

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        To your government, yes.

                        I’m on the government ... but on the people it is not necessary.

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, what is it, for all you will not be good

                        It’s not that good or bad, but that the moderator is still a representative of the site’s administration and the insult from the moderator and the veiled insults, at least, are not nice to hear ...
        2. MG42
          +2
          9 October 2013 17: 19
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Captain Vrungel, something I don’t recognize you !? Why are you jumping off topic? Our country

          And it’s true how they replaced Vrungel’s handwriting ..
          Really wanted in the EU, Yuri? wassat Only this is a bait, they will sign an association agreement, and this is far from EU membership, even if it is a negotiated agreement, where we find that the Customs Union impose duties and lose, Tymoshenko will be released to Germany for treatment, then she will return to Ukraine and begin to rock Yanukovych’s boat, by the way not only in the package of laws to equalize the rights of homosexuals when hiring, but also Simonenko said that there is an agreement on raising gas tariffs for the population by about 1,5 times .. this is for starters only ..
          Everywhere they talk about European tariffs and European prices, but no one talks about European salaries for residents of Ukraine .. bully
  3. +3
    9 October 2013 07: 03
    - salary and pension in 5 times;
    -children will study in European universities;
    -free movement in Europe;
    -new jobs and investments;
    -independent courts;
    -new technologies
    - we will live on 15 years longer


    Sounds like a sentence winked
  4. +8
    9 October 2013 07: 06
    At whose expense is such a party banquet? Hello from Leni Golubkov.
    1. +8
      9 October 2013 07: 15
      Quote: Humpty
      At whose expense is such a party banquet?

      Yak for whose, at the expense of the EU. EU and feed and raise pensions and dress and train. Each Ukrainian will wipe away a tear laughing
    2. v.lyamkin
      +2
      9 October 2013 12: 22
      And the text was not Mavrodi?
  5. +5
    9 October 2013 07: 17
    During a trip to Cyprus (2 years ago), he had a long conversation with a Russian living there. The first thing they received upon joining the EU was a 2-fold increase in almost all prices with constant wages and pensions. Well, what happened next, everyone remembers.

    But, on the other hand, they are an independent power, even with centuries-old ties. Let them try.
  6. Troy
    +11
    9 October 2013 07: 24
    What is so worth it? Enter, take a sip and a new Maidan is provided. But this is their own business. In our country, there are enough of our own problems, there are still Ukrainian to discuss. And then I look we are more concerned about where the Kazakhs send their miracles, to study and where Ukraine is going. Yes, let it go at least in ....! The main thing is that then help is not begging, like the Hungarians.
    1. +3
      9 October 2013 07: 29
      Quote: Troy
      What is so worth it? Enter, take a sip and a new Maidan is provided.

      But no, advertising goes further. Now it’s only an association, but when we join the EU itself (in about 1000 years), then everything will be, like in advertising. Everything has been thought out how to get through the ears.
    2. netMolotov
      -1
      9 October 2013 09: 36
      Troy - What is this op worth?

      I’ll grab the cons, but I’ll explain: What a pain, what a pain Argentina - Jamaica 5-0.
      1. +2
        9 October 2013 09: 47
        Quote: netMolotov
        I’ll grab the cons, but I’ll explain: What pain, what pain Argentina - Jamaica 5: 0

        Dear, why did you cover your flag with the Soviet? This is not patriotic, they will not catch you in Mossad.
        1. netMolotov
          +1
          9 October 2013 10: 46
          Alexander Romanov- Dear, why did you cover your flag with the Soviet?

          What can I do? I was born in the USSR already in the 64th. And in Donetsk in the Russian-Ukrainian family. I have nothing to do with the Mossad or the State Department. And in general, I do not suspect you of working for the FSB only on the grounds that your political views do not coincide with mine!
          1. +1
            9 October 2013 11: 22
            Quote: netMolotov
            What can I do? I was born in the USSR already in the 64th. And in Donetsk in the Russian-Ukrainian family

            Ah, I hoped that at least one real Jews came to Sait, an-no, again our emigrant wassat Poor Israel laughing
  7. +17
    9 October 2013 07: 33
    The results of European integration are evident.
    1. netMolotov
      0
      9 October 2013 12: 29
      Humpty - The results of European integration are evident.

      Yes, unfortunately, Yulka was right in declaring that Russia managed in a short time to do what the Ukrainian nationalists could not do in 20 years, namely to unite the Ukrainians. Keep writing like that! Bendera standing ovations and express sincere gratitude.
      1. 0
        9 October 2013 12: 46
        Quote: netMolotov
        Keep writing like that! Bendera standing ovation and express sincere gratitude.

        "Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! ...
        I myself am glad to be deceived! "(C) A.S. Pushkin
      2. 0
        9 October 2013 18: 35
        Quote: netMolotov


        Yes, unfortunately, Yulka was right in declaring that Russia managed in a short time to do what the Ukrainian nationalists could not do in 20 years, namely to unite the Ukrainians. Keep writing like that! Bendera standing ovations and express sincere gratitude.


        You are mistaken young. people , Ukrainians in my family and relatives did not unite with banderlogs, and as they considered Svidomo scum, they think so.
    2. MG42
      +4
      9 October 2013 18: 00
      The results of European integration are evident
  8. +4
    9 October 2013 07: 37
    Was Yushchenko not enough for them? When they came, everyone was inspired, and they spit at the end. Now they are again stepping on the same rake ((I don't understand that they are immortals and can squander their lives in search of "paradise."
    1. +4
      9 October 2013 07: 48
      Quote: bomg.77
      Now they are again stepping on the same rake (

      Yes, let her come in. There are five times more pensions and everything else, the budget of Russia can’t stand such a ballast. In short, judging by the video, the whole of Europe will work for the benefit of an ordinary Ukrainian. I wouldn’t live laughing
      1. +2
        9 October 2013 08: 20
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, let her come.
        They will enter, after years 10 will understand that they were deceived and robbed. Where they come, they ask for money from Russia, but Russia will give it, it’s compassionate here is the joke. what
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        . In short, the whole of Europe, judging by the video, will work for the benefit of an ordinary Ukrainian.
        Shtob did not die Ukraine. laughing
        1. +1
          9 October 2013 08: 46
          Quote: bomg.77
          They enter, after 10 years they will understand that they were deceived and robbed.

          Even for a long 10 years, so much Ukraine will not last on European gifts.
          Quote: bomg.77
          Where they come to ask for money in Russia

          Well, firstly, Russia will be to blame for everything! (As always)
          Secondly, in 10 years they will already have so many debts that Russia will not be able to pull.
          Quote: bomg.77
          Shtob did not die Ukraine.

          Yeah and gays maidan parades with dancing songs wassat
          1. +1
            9 October 2013 08: 57
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Even for a long 10 years, so much Ukraine will not last on European gifts.

            A little flattered, Ukraine all the same.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, firstly, Russia will be to blame for everything!
            Wow! Anyway wassat
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yeah and gays maidan parades with dancing songs
            And the host is a woman with a scythe. laughing
            1. 0
              9 October 2013 09: 49
              Quote: bomg.77
              And the host is a woman with a scythe.

              Well, she’ll sing in her arms with the lesbians. Ukraine hasn’t died yet. laughing
  9. SolomonSS
    +4
    9 October 2013 07: 40
    So the government will decide to join the EU, like ours in the WTO, but there are no cheap cars and electronics, only gasoline has started to grow in price and milk of normal quality below 45 rubles cannot be bought and many examples ...
    And the people of Ukraine, even if they are against joining the EU, who will listen to him?
    Who is at the helm, and does not understand that he controls the "Titanic".
  10. +5
    9 October 2013 07: 42
    What a homopodically lead in this video. Probably already integrated into the EU!
  11. +5
    9 October 2013 08: 05
    Poor Ukrainians are so unlucky with the authorities for this curse of this land. I won’t be surprised if in a year there will be a revolution in Ukraine under the slogan Down with the geyropu you give an alliance with Russia, we want someone like Putin to not drink, like Putin to love the country, such how Putin didn’t lie and didn’t lie, In general, Putin is not European blue.
    1. +2
      9 October 2013 10: 32
      Quote: morpogr
      Poor Ukrainians for which they are so unlucky with the authorities are the curse of this land. I would not be surprised if in a year there will be a revolution in Ukraine under the slogan down with geyrop you give an alliance with Russia we want


      It will not be this. In Western Ukraine, people live off their earnings in Europe. They need x ... nd jobs and production. They are important that it was convenient to travel to Europe. They are a mystery to me, like honoring family values ​​and devout, and so easily agree to leave their seven for 1000 km and 10-15 years, hence massive divorces, unhappy marriages and betrayals. For that houses and huts, so sturdy and elegant. Now in Bukovyna, every third house is here, - a hacienda from euro is a system of materials. But families without a father or mother ... Recently there was a feast, so one here pan, said that they live better than in the east of Ukraine. I’ll go to him: but we don’t give up children there, leaving for foreign land and working on their land.
  12. +12
    9 October 2013 08: 24
    Better not to say ...
    "Because Ivans-fools live in millions of Ukrainians. Because you want a freebie, you want a kind landowner who will come, give him something to drink, and feed ... It was in vain that Lutsenko did not inform his admirers to the poor that after the signing of the association with the EU, champagne and cognac would disappear in Ukraine Yes, just imagine - everything that is not produced in the Charente region (France) cannot be called “cognac.” Just like everything that is produced outside Champagne cannot be called “champagne”.
    But that is not all. We are preparing for the disappearance of Madera, Porto, Sherry, Tokaya. Also, Ukrainian milkmen will be required to abandon the names "feta", "roquefort", parmesan. " Of course, first of all, this is a headache for the manufacturer, who, of course, can handle it. Or it won’t do it, because goods that are not in great demand in Europe will still flood into the domestic market. Yes, in fact, do not care - the barn, burn and hut burned down. A couple of factories will close, a couple of companies will go bankrupt - spit. Our people cannot connect the manufacturer’s problems with their own problems. It is necessary to think three steps ahead. If the Ukrainian thought so: “they close the plant, the wife loses her job, there will be less food in the refrigerator,” then life would gradually improve in the country. But the Ukrainian does not think.
    And we give him, this people, another gift, more visual. After signing the association, you cannot download films from the Internet, and neither do music. Because this is not good, because according to the law, for a song a hundred years ago, some poor fellow - the owner of the rights must deduct euros. And you will have to buy a DVD at a stupid, from the point of view of a Ukrainian, price to watch the film. Otherwise, a state corporation that has lost five dollars will be very upset. Civilization, you see! Endure, dreamers of the European Union. "
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-128449.html
    XXXX
    Well, Yatsenyuk and Lutsenko need to work out their ration. Is it in vain that Eureka was treated in a geyrop? And then mother can be released, where then will Senya the rabbit go?
    1. +6
      9 October 2013 08: 58
      Quote: Egoza
      It was in vain that Lutsenko did not inform the poor of his admirers that after signing the association with the EU, champagne and cognac would disappear in Ukraine

      Elena good morning hi Why do Ukrainians need cognac and champagne? There is not enough money for cognac from the Ukrainian aposlyu EU. With regards to champagne ..... sorry, but what actually celebrate winked Turn to the roots, to the vodka laughing
      Quote: Egoza
      Preparing for the disappearance of Madera, Porto, Sherry, Tokaya

      Well, Yatsenyuk will not be left without drinks.
      Quote: Egoza
      Also, Ukrainian milkmen will be required to abandon the names "feta", "roquefort", parmesan

      Kars remembered you again, you’re tied up with milk and tied up. My congratulations to you, you’ll definitely start to live better laughing But I’m afraid not for long at such a pace wassat 100 years of your life from yourself
      Quote: Egoza
      Endure, dreamers of the European Union. "

      Yes, yes, patience and work, all the pockets will be rich in European companieswassat
      1. 0
        9 October 2013 09: 34
        By the way, "Zhigulevskoe beer" is sold in Germany, and no one cares about the fact that it is produced in Bavaria. And they sell vodka at home without messing with the fact that it is a Russian drink, but their Coca-Cola is very expensive. The licensing rights are their mother.
      2. Captain Vrungel
        +1
        9 October 2013 13: 07
        And does someone believe that Ukraine will join the EU? By this time, the EU will fall apart. Someone believes that an agreement will be signed with the EU when not a single item is implemented. Someone believes that Yanukovych decisively goes to the EU? He himself was shocked by what he had swung at. You believe in the decency of the party of regions, which turned sharply 180 degrees from its program. Yes, not the EU or the Customs Union thinks Yanukovych and the regionals. Ahead of 2015. It is necessary to stir up the water in such a way, to hang such thick noodles, so that in muddy water through slippery noodles again slip into power. and citizen Putin with his assaults and swoops, in the sweat of his face. work for the rating of Yanukovych. Ukraine doesn’t get off the tongue.
        Neither in the EU, nor in the CU Ukraine has nothing to do, we just have to be one.
    2. zmey_gadukin
      +2
      9 October 2013 10: 58
      well, "champagne" is no longer used.
      recently bought, it says "sparkling wine" "Artyomovskoe"
      so ... changing labels is a penny issue, of course, the agricultural market is much more exciting for me.
      1. 0
        9 October 2013 11: 25
        Quote: zmey_gadukin
        well, "champagne" is no longer used.
        recently bought, it says "sparkling wine" "Artyomovskoe"
        so ... changing labels is a pretty penny question

        For the new year, open, instead of champagne, sparkling wine, well, or re-stick labels on homemade laughing
        Quote: zmey_gadukin
        I am much more concerned about the agricultural market.

        Everything will be your-European wink
        1. zmey_gadukin
          +2
          9 October 2013 11: 48
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          For the New Year, open sparkling wine instead of champagne

          I don’t care what it's called there
          1. 0
            9 October 2013 11: 51
            Quote: zmey_gadukin
            I don’t care what it's called there

            Noticeably
          2. 0
            10 October 2013 06: 03
            Quote: zmey_gadukin
            I don’t care what it's called there

            And I would like to continue to uncork the Soviet Champagne of the Artyomovsk factory of champagne wines for the Chimes fight ...
    3. v.lyamkin
      0
      9 October 2013 12: 25
      Will there be any problems with fat?
  13. +5
    9 October 2013 08: 32
    Free cheese happens only in a mousetrap. fool
  14. +1
    9 October 2013 08: 42
    Free cheese happens only in a mousetrap.


    And nothing will be free. For every Eurocent, Ukraine will have to give so much that it will never come out of debt slavery. But it is their right to commit suicide.
  15. +3
    9 October 2013 09: 04

    - salary and pension in 5 times;
    -children will study in European universities;
    -free movement in Europe;
    -new jobs and investments;
    -independent courts;
    -new technologies
    - we will live on 15 years longer

    The author of these "messages" is the "great" FANTASER!
    It’s like during the Second World War the Germans campaigned for the soldiers of the Red Army to surrender:
    - You’re starving,
    The Germans live well!
    It is a pity that the "propaganda" of the times of the Second World War did not work.
  16. Lukich
    +4
    9 October 2013 09: 07
    ... remember the film "Republic SHKID" about the elections - ... all the guys have a crust, and the rest are also fair ... "
  17. +2
    9 October 2013 09: 13
    Let them wander wherever they want, only let the Crimean region be returned back. Like other Russian lands.
  18. vvpll
    +4
    9 October 2013 09: 17
    What a homopodically lead in this video. Probably already integrated into the EU!

    This is not the leader. This is one of the leaders of the Ukrainian united opposition Arseniy Yatsenyuk party nickname Rabbit Senya.
    Here is some extract about him from Lurkomorye:
    "... it is suspected that he changed his real name Yatsenovich to Yatsenyuk.
    Nationality:
    The textbook ERZ Yatsenyuk, like many fellow tribesmen in Western Ukraine, is a Ukrainian-speaking ukronationalist and hereditary Greek Catholic. All this does not prevent him from conducting gas affairs with Blasting the House and the racial international mafiosi with Podol Sema Mogilevich.
    Arseny's father-in-law, Gur Viktor Illarionovich, bears a rare racial surname, and his pedigree is already built up by Yitzhak Meir Rotenberg Alter himself (1789-1866), a follower of Levi Yitzhak bin Meir from Berdichev. Stalk for details. Well, the career of Arseny himself quickly went up after the wedding, which, as it were, tells us.
    During his short life (or rather, for that part that began after the wedding) he managed to work, which delivers by itself:
    Minister of Economy of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea;
    Acting Head of the National Bank of Ukraine;
    The first deputy head of the state administration of Odessa region;
    Minister of Economy of Ukraine;
    Officer of the Secretariat of the President of Ukraine;
    Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine;
    Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine "
  19. +3
    9 October 2013 09: 29
    I already heard this (on TV) on the Maidan, when a crowd of fooled people dragged Yushchenko to power ... I remember an interview in one of the orange tents with a young boy about how they would win and EVERYTHING WILL BE WITH them EVERYTHING !!! WORK, SALARY. Apparently they will step on the same rake twice ...
  20. ZIV
    +3
    9 October 2013 09: 37
    Quote: Canep
    They forgot to attribute the following list of abstracts here:
    - Debauchery of children by homosexuals,
    - Paid medicine,
    - Juvenile justice,
    - Chronic debt crisis (this will definitely affect Ukraine),
    - Autobahns that the Germans will selflessly build throughout Ukraine, laughing
    - Mosques in every Ukrainian city, and "Alah Akbar" at 8 in the morning on the matyugalnik from the minarets,
    - Crowds of Arab "refugees".

    In my opinion, I have not forgotten anything.


    good drinks
  21. +3
    9 October 2013 10: 24
    Quote: Vanya2013F
    What a homopodically lead in this video. Probably already integrated into the EU!


    This is one of the leaders of the opposition in Ukraine. laughing wassat recourse
  22. +4
    9 October 2013 10: 25
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Try to stop the catastrophe

    Here is such a Kars, your compatriot. Try to prove to him that all this will lead to disaster, he is confident that everything will be in chocolate.


    He is a fanatic of statehood, but he himself does not know that in the EU this statehood will be extremely small. hi
  23. +4
    9 October 2013 10: 33
    Arseniy Yatsenyuk! laughing
    Ask Kars they are not relatives?
    When already ERZH expelled from Ukraine filthy broom !?
    The most ardent secessionists.
    The people of Ukraine wake up !!!!!!!!!!!!!
  24. zmey_gadukin
    +4
    9 October 2013 11: 02
    Rabbit, such a rabbit ...
    I’m wondering what amounts are deposited on his personal offshore accounts for association with the EU?
    And what did they promise such a thing to Yanukovych that Putin could not give, that he changed the vector to the directly opposite one?
    1. +2
      9 October 2013 11: 27
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      I’m wondering what amounts are deposited on his personal offshore accounts for association with the EU?

      Not small
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      And that they promised such a Yanukovych, which Putin could not give,

      Geiparad laughing
  25. +2
    9 October 2013 11: 21
    We must respect the desire and willingness of the Ukrainian state to join the European Union. I repeat - the desire of the state, i.e. ruling elite. No one asks ordinary Ukrainians, of whom more than 40 millions, do they want to go to the West? After all, you need to think about where the funds will be taken to increase pensions by 5 times? Well and so on ... It seems that in Ukraine organized a wicked joke with the people. Hopefully, common sense wins, and hope dies last.
  26. sem. forty
    +2
    9 October 2013 11: 22
    Quote: zmey_gadukin
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    what values ​​are brought up by children.

    And there is something in this ... at my first job, I saw enough of children living in "pigsties" sleeping on the floor on a pissing mattress and eating from a garbage can ... and next to my mother, who was smeared with a "screw", which children, basically, do not care ...


    There certainly is something in this, of course. But ..... everything is so cleverly twisted that they leave the mother with the screwed-in screw to the children, and the mother who told the child well-well-well, you can’t do this or, God forbid, spank the child - they can take the children away.
    I do not argue, protecting the rights of the child is a reasonable approach. But some things are easier for a child to explain by dispersing stagnant blood with a belt.
    1. zmey_gadukin
      +2
      9 October 2013 11: 50
      Quote: sem.sorok
      But some things are easier for a child to explain by dispersing stagnant blood with a belt.

      Not necessary. You can not achieve anything with a belt. Children should not be beaten, but TALK with them
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  28. sem. forty
    +2
    9 October 2013 12: 09
    Quote: zmey_gadukin
    Quote: sem.sorok
    But some things are easier for a child to explain by dispersing stagnant blood with a belt.

    Not necessary. You can not achieve anything with a belt. Children should not be beaten, but TALK with them

    Sorry for offtopic.
    I specifically made a reservation - SOME. 99% of the problems are solved by conversation. But there is 1% when words do not reach. And the belt is the lesser of evils than broken bones, cut off fingers, gouged out eyes.
    1. zmey_gadukin
      0
      9 October 2013 12: 12
      I lashed out an opponent of beatie children.
  29. +4
    9 October 2013 12: 14
    Good day to all!

    No matter how much you and I write good and correct assessments of DANGER of a steeper turn of RU to the EU, alas, here in Russia and the CU we will not change much. That you are from Russia and the Customs Union, that I am from the EU / Slovakia, we see and warn about the dangers and grave consequences of “an intimate partnership between Ukraine and the EU, but in Ukraine itself, the situation is, alas, much worse.

    See for yourself, of the total number on the website of Ukrainian citizens or people who are rooting for its future, few of the "wide (ardent) Ukrainian nationalists (my language does not turn out to be their patriots)" do not blame Russia for anything and anything this is harmonious in saying about what “supposedly wonderful opportunities for development and prosperity” in the EU will get “zaturkany Ukraine”! ??

    I was a week ago in my native Transcarpathia in Ukraine, so there the state is “just awful”.
    Corruption is visible and hidden, there is little work, there are only civil servants, hospitals, a university and markets, though the largest in Mukachevo. Most people earn money in Europe and some in the TS.

    Well, most young people “with brainwashed brainwash” are waiting for everything when they are accepted by the “rich and well-fed Europe” and have dreams that they will have jobs in the EU, Ukrainian goods will be sold to all of Europe and other “rubbish”.

    But on ALL channels of Ukrainian TV and radio constantly one laudatory odes of the EU, which are cleaner than the “chanting of the Central Committee of the CPSU”, the universal systematic fanning of “hatred of Russia” for its “methods of customs and price education” of Ukraine and all “other earthly sins” !!!

    For some reason, it seems to me that this is a fanning of hatred between Ukrainians and Russians, not “one-sided from Kiev” but “harmonious from both Kiev and Moscow”?!, And is very similar to the actions of the KGB and the Gorbi & Co fold in 1985- 91?

    So, the FULL sobering up of the Ukrainian people after rapprochement with the EU (before full acceptance another 10 years will pass, if the EU itself does not bend by then), it will only be so in 3-4 years ...

    And it’s unpleasant and painful for me to write about it, but today, the Kiev political elite fled to Europe, they say that the godfathers promised that they would steal from the rich less than in the TS !?
    Well, all the bills and invoices for all this escalation of hostility and hatred between our fraternal peoples and the subsequent UNION of Ukraine with Russia and Belarus will be paid by the simple Ukrainian people, and not the Judaic Guarantors from Kiev.

    Sorry that I have such a pessimistic opinion about the near future of my native Ukraine, but I can’t embellish the dangerous and ugly reality that prevails in Ukraine itself. I would be glad to take advantage of the achievements of Ukrainian talents, science, production, agriculture - but alas, nothing !!!

    And for shame for their homeland, few have any conscience left, it has long been exchanged at the residual price for bucks and clothes, as unnecessary and interfering with prosperity and career, "outdated parameter of state of mind."
    1. v.lyamkin
      +2
      9 October 2013 12: 32
      I would have slightly corrected: all three peoples will pay for the reunion - Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian. And the later, the more expensive it will come.
  30. +2
    9 October 2013 12: 39
    Quote: v.lyamkin
    I would have slightly corrected: all three peoples will pay for the reunion - Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian. And the later, the more expensive it will come.

    Hello dear Vladimir!

    Your correction of my definition is correct. good But this fact, that for correcting mistakes and restoring the devastation in Ukraine, apart from itself, will cover the whole TS, here on the VO website, few people understand from the Russian or Belarusian side, with rare exceptions.

    Most members of the forum (excluding a few), tired of the stubbornness and chauvinism of the official Kiev, are happy to "send Ukrainians" (note the whole people, not the Kiev thrusters) to gay europehaving forgotten you noticed an important detail.
    1. +2
      9 October 2013 12: 48
      michajlo

      You're right. But in Ukraine there is no counter-propaganda. sad
      1. +1
        9 October 2013 16: 14
        Yes + You can turn on yourself and do counter-propaganda.
    2. avt
      +1
      9 October 2013 17: 47
      Quote: michajlo
      here on the VO website, few people understand from the Russian or Belarusian side, with rare exceptions.

      And here you are deeply mistaken. Anyone, especially those who received a Soviet education and are interested in history, well, at least from the Pereyaslav Council, understands this.
      Quote: michajlo
      Most members of the forum (excluding a few), tired of the stubbornness and chauvinism of official Kiev, are happy to "send Ukrainians" (note the whole people, not the Kiev thrusters) to gay Europe, forgetting an important detail you noticed.

      request So what to do if the horse is not fed !? And any statement or specific fact with reference to the same young Europeans is perceived in the same way - will this not happen to us? And all the statements are met with hostility beforehand as the intrigues of the Impertsev? They do not even bother to let the historical fact into the brain that they also built the Empire and were its fundamental part! By the way, I have said more than once that in the end we will be guilty again, do not be offended, but even you it slips, there is no joy, this is already tiredness from repetitions and a complete unreasoned rejection of our opinion. But the "hangover" from the joy of the zuro association will be strong.
      1. +1
        9 October 2013 19: 41
        avt (3) SU Today, 17:47 _131009 / Wed New

        Hello dear!

        Sorry, I don’t know how to dignify you by name, if you’re used to knowing someone to call you by name.

        Thank you for your opinion, it is more true! Here you have nothing to argue with me. good And alas "... the hangover" from the joy of the Euro-association will be strong. "

        Perhaps you misunderstood me, or I inaccurately expressed myself, since you wrote well “Anyone, especially one who has received a Soviet education and is interested in history, at least from the Pereyaslav Council, understands this.”

        In the second part of your Answer, I will then be forced to try to supplement my words.
        An ordinary citizen in Ukraine, regardless of geography, today is fighting for "elementary survival" (in my opinion this is% 50-60 !?), and they don’t even think about why there is NO work in my native Ukraine, or it is only for OWN people, those who honestly work in small businesses are almost EXTINCING, and these people are a "breeding ground" for any pro-European agitation and repeated deception that “turn to us” and ALL Ukrainians will feel good to you! fool

        I personally and here are some other patriots of the USSR / Russia / Ukraine (not nationalists-zapadentsi), neither you nor other forum users, with similar reasoning and assessment of events and most importantly the CONSEQUENCES of this bacchanalia, I do not reproach anything!
        I have no moral right to it.

        But if I can advise not to you, but to others who “directly and far send” Ukraine to the “intimate embrace” of the EU, still make a distinction between venal and vile political elite of Kiev, politicians, deputies, other scum

        and ordinary inhabitants, ordinary citizens, not entrepreneurs and rich!

        For such an approach and understanding, I personally (except myself, I do not represent anyone) will be very grateful to you and others!

        And over time, both Russians and Ukrainians, in their overwhelming majority, will understand “hu hu?”.
        A balanced assessment of our two fraternal peoples today, we all save a lot of unnecessary apologies to each other, tomorrow ...

        All the best to you, Mikhailo.
        1. avt
          0
          11 October 2013 19: 08
          Quote: michajlo
          But if I can advise not to you but to others who “directly and far send” Ukraine to the “intimate embrace” of the EU, still make the distinction between the corrupt and vile political elite of Kiev, politicians, deputies, and other bastards

          and ordinary inhabitants, ordinary citizens, not entrepreneurs and rich!

          Quote: michajlo
          I personally and here are some other patriots of the USSR / Russia / Ukraine (not nationalists-zapadentsy)

          request So this is the result of common "independence" and we are reaping the fruits of the separate coexistence of the USSR, which was torn to pieces, with the remaining connective tissues and arteries. It hurts and now we are tearing the last.
  31. 0
    9 October 2013 12: 51
    Wow, someone even put a minus !! Did you really like the commercial? good
    1. MG42
      +2
      9 October 2013 17: 51
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Did you really like the commercial?

      Well, how can you take "Rabbit Senya" Yaytsenyuk seriously? wassat
  32. +1
    9 October 2013 16: 15
    Can't the people wake up?
  33. netishunUA
    +1
    9 October 2013 16: 44
    I won’t be surprised if in this way they bargain for buns in the vehicle wink . There’s already a gas discount.
  34. +3
    9 October 2013 19: 26
    Theses of the video, what is the agreement with the EU for each of you:
    - salary and pension in 5 times;
    -children will study in European universities;
    -free movement in Europe;
    -new jobs and investments;
    -independent courts;
    -new technologies
    - we will live on 15 years longer

    Ukrainian braces of Brechati are good, but all the people are taking everything.
    They forgot, wonders aren’t buvaє. Bagato, who was appreciated by 20 rock to that. De wono everything?
    1. 0
      9 October 2013 19: 59
      Hello Nikolai!

      You are right, most alas, even after a rake painfully hit on the forehead, famously re-stepping on the same rake of “deception and fraud”.

      Only the bruises will now be bigger among the people .. Well, the Guarantor, the corrupt and scum political elite, will survive all the troubles for now.

      Although I’m personally convinced that in a few years, the same “sun-kissed son of the Ukrainian people”, today's president Yanukovych, already as an “ex-president,” will follow in the footsteps of “the great martyr Yulka / thieves and liars.”
      1. +3
        9 October 2013 20: 35
        Quote: michajlo
        Although I’m personally convinced that in a few years, the same “sun-kissed son of the Ukrainian people”, today's president Yanukovych, already as an “ex-president,” will follow in the footsteps of “the great martyr Yulka / thieves and liars.”

        Oh, michajlo, is it really Yanukovych the only one!
        1. 0
          9 October 2013 21: 59
          Corsair5912 (4) SU Today, 20:35 _131009 / Wed New

          Nikolai, can I contact YOU?

          You have a good photo selection, send me if there is more directly to Email: [email protected]
          Yes, there are many bastards of the living and the dead on Ukrainian soil for 22 years, and not all of them lie “under the turf”.

          In this you are right, but even if "zemstvo justice" does not exist, there is still "higher / divine".
          We are alive, of course it is not a joy, but still ...

          And besides, in search of answers to questions about the essence of being, conscience and soul, I don’t remember where I came across one statement, and several times I heard it from deeply believing old people.

          They say that according to the faith (in our country the Orthodox), good deeds are rewarded to those who have done a good deed, and even before the end of his life! And people praise his heirs FOR HIS KIND.
          But for the evil committed against others, the culprit is responsible (throughout his life) and HIS HEIRS to the third knee!

          That is, someone’s life is awry and “all the time from the swamp to the puddle”, so this is not the stupidity of this person, but he’s just paying for the sins of his father or grandfather.


          I will be glad to read your comments (“comments” cut my ear) and exchange thoughts, links and concerns.

          Bye, Michael.
  35. +2
    9 October 2013 20: 26
    there is a counter propaganda, and the minds of some are not blown by telecom and media.
    They wash the young .... it's bad ...
  36. Gul
    Gul
    -1
    9 October 2013 20: 56
    It would be possible to enter into a discussion with orthodox scoops, as they, as there are no arguments, minus and my comments are cut. I come to Ukrtema only to be horrified at what shit like the CU are trying to drive us, and to make sure once again that Euro-Atlantic integration is the only possible way for the people of Ukraine, from the west and from the east, to get out of this post-soviet merchants.
    1. -4
      9 October 2013 21: 12
      Quote: gyl
      It would be possible to enter into a discussion with orthodox scoops

      No need, they will soon fix the grave. The scoops are dying out, and the young are already thinking in a new way.
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  38. Gul
    Gul
    -3
    9 October 2013 22: 44
    It would be possible to enter into a discussion with orthodox scoops, as they, as there are no arguments, minus and my comments are cut. I come to Ukrtema only to be horrified at what shit like the CU are trying to drive us, and to make sure once again that Euro-Atlantic integration is the only possible way for the people of Ukraine, from the west and from the east, to get out of this post-soviet merchants.
    Quote: artem772
    Quote: gyl
    It would be possible to enter into a discussion with orthodox scoops

    No need, they will soon fix the grave. The scoops are dying out, and the young are already thinking in a new way.

    That is not, they continue in the offspring, obscurantism, it is sexually transmitted (joke)
    1. +2
      9 October 2013 22: 50
      Quote: gyl
      It would be possible to enter into a discussion with orthodox scoops, as they, as there are no arguments, minus and my comments are cut. I come to Ukrtema only to be horrified at what shit like the CU are trying to drive us, and to make sure once again that Euro-Atlantic integration is the only possible way for the people of Ukraine, from the west and from the east, to get out of this post-soviet merchants.
      Quote: artem772
      Quote: gyl
      It would be possible to enter into a discussion with orthodox scoops

      No need, they will soon fix the grave. The scoops are dying out, and the young are already thinking in a new way.

      That is not, they continue in the offspring, obscurantism, it is sexually transmitted (joke)


      Ukrainian Natsik unsubscribe at night? laughing
      1. Gul
        Gul
        -1
        10 October 2013 01: 10
        Creatures with an obscure identity have questions on the topic?
  39. avd
    avd
    0
    14 October 2013 12: 45
    Blessed is he who believes ...
    Or is it auto-training?
  40. Lady winter
    +1
    30 September 2014 12: 10
    Here, of course, there may be two versions: either in Ukraine the people became so naive and umm ... uncritical that they would believe the election manipulations of Mr. Yaytsenyukh a la 90 years, or the people who produce and order it, the people who are in currently in power in Kiev, they sincerely and wholeheartedly believe in it. With all their scum, cynicism and cannibalism, why do we refuse them this opportunity?
    They really can believe in it ...
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      1 October 2014 11: 54
      Quote: Lady Winter
      Here, of course, there may be two versions: either in Ukraine the people became so naive and umm ... uncritical that they would believe the election manipulations of Mr. Yaytsenyukh a la 90 years, or the people who produce and order it, the people who are in currently in power in Kiev, they sincerely and wholeheartedly believe in it. With all their scum, cynicism and cannibalism, why do we refuse them this opportunity?
      They really can believe in it ...


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