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Central Asia, armed to the teeth

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Talk about arming Russia on 1,3 billion dollars in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan has been going on for almost a year. Recently, the supply nomenclature was finally agreed. The amount of military assistance to Kyrgyzstan - 1,1 billion dollars, Tajikistan - 0,2 billion dollars. In fact, Kyrgyzstan, which wants to become a member of the Customs Union, needs even more money: the republic wants to receive 170 million dollars for additional arrangement of borders. As for Tajikistan, he does not like gossip in Russian society on the topic of migrant workers.




How to write Ivan Safronov, Elena Chernenko and Kabai Karabekov (Kommersant), the head of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, Valery Gerasimov, said that Russia had fully agreed with Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan on the range of weapons that it would supply them as military technical assistance. Especially a lot will be received by the army of Kyrgyzstan: helicopters, multiple launch rocket systems, armored personnel carriers, etc. - for the sum of $ 1,1 billion.

According to the unnamed Kommersant interlocutors from the Russian side who are familiar with the negotiations, the delay is partly due to the fact that Bishkek and Dushanbe were delaying the implementation of agreements indirectly related to the military support program. Kyrgyzstan only officially issued a decision in the summer of expelling the US military from the country by closing the US Air Force Transit Center in Manas (will be valid until July 2014). And the deputies of the lower chamber of the Tajik parliament only recently ratified the agreement on the stay of the 201 Russian base in the country.

When the agreement was ratified, the head of the Ministry of Defense of Tajikistan Sherali Khairulloyev said:

"In exchange (Dushanbe. - Approx." Kommersant ") will receive assistance in the form aviation, communications, artillery, anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as small arms weapons».


According to him, the program of free training for Tajik citizens in Russian military schools can also be expanded. In addition, Russia promised to introduce preferential conditions for the stay of Tajik migrants and to cancel export duties on fuel supplies. These agreements will be finalized soon.

According to the Kommersant source in the General Staff of the Russian Federation, Kyrgyzstan will receive helicopters, armored personnel carriers and armored cars, multiple launch rocket systems 9КХNUMX Uragan, artillery, small arms, communications and reconnaissance. Moreover, the source of "Kommersant" in the Ministry of Defense of Kyrgyzstan clarified that the list is not final and there, most likely, will include property for logistic support of the army.

“Now the question is who will form the security structure in Central Asia after 2014 of the year,” PIR Center expert Vadim Kozyulin explained to Kommersant. “The US has not yet outlined its plans, but it is possible that they will want to place part of their military facilities in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.” However, now, when Russia “promptly, or rather, even in fire order,” announced assistance, she, the expert believes, has managed to “seize the initiative from the United States and remain the center of gravity of the Central Asian republics, at least in the area of ​​security.”

1,3 billion dollars should be considered only the starting price for an attempt to restore Russia's influence in the post-Soviet space of Central Asia. The following amounts are already indicated.

Mukai Kadyrkulov, deputy chairman of the State Border Service of the Kyrgyz Republic, said that when Kyrgyzstan joined the Customs Union, the country would need $ 170 million for additional border management. Kyrgyzstan is going to receive this money from Russia, it reports Rosbalt.

The balance of money is as follows. He was clarified by the First Deputy Prime Minister of Kyrgyzstan Joomart Otorbayev, whose words are quoted by Tengrinews.kz:

“Joining the Customs Union obliges our country to strengthen the border with neighboring states that are not members of the organization. We do not have our own funds to strengthen the entire border. Therefore, we have requested money from Russia. $ 115 million will be needed for the arrangement of the customs infrastructure. Another $ 55 million. We will ask for border infrastructure. "


Otorbayev said that after Kyrgyzstan joined the CU, the country would have to strengthen the border with China, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan.

The agreement between Russia and Kyrgyzstan was commented on by Sergey Naryshkin, Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation. His words at the talks with Kyrgyz President Almazbek Atambayev lead "Voice of Russia" With reference to Interfax:

“We value relations between Kyrgyzstan and Russia, we positively assess how our relations have been developing in the past two or two and a half years, and a great step forward has been made in this historically short period of cooperation.”


Naryshkin also said that "during this time, several truly strategic agreements have been prepared, signed and ratified, which determine the future dynamics of our political partnership relations."

In turn, Atambayev said that he was "glad that relations between Kyrgyzstan and Russia are becoming truly full-blooded." “They are becoming as they are supposed to be between fraternal and strategic allies,” the president added.

The idea of ​​fraternity also applies to Tajikistan, which, in addition to significant military assistance, will receive, as mentioned above, benefits for the stay of migrants in Russia and the abolition of export duties on fuel.

As reported on October 7 RIA "FederalPress" with reference to ER.Ru, Tajik labor migrants will be granted the right to work in Russia for three years. This was stated by Sergey Naryshkin, speaking at the Russian-Tajik (Slavic) University. During his visit to Tajikistan, the State Duma Speaker met with the heads of both houses of the Parliament of Tajikistan and discussed the issue of migration.

Naryshkin clarified that full equality of labor rights - regardless of citizenship - is possible “only within the framework of the Eurasian Economic Union”.

As reminded by FederalPress, during the congress of the United Russia party, Vladimir Putin said that the law on migration should be tightened. The president noted that Russia has an economic need for visitors: they work there where the locals do not want to get.

In Tajikistan, they are seriously concerned that migrants are about to start being oppressed.

According to Vladimir Lisovsky (Avesta.Tj), the results of S. Naryshkin’s visit and the subsequent news reports from Moscow indicate Russia's intention to intensify diplomatic efforts to consolidate and strengthen its military presence in Tajikistan.

“The issue of transferring the Aini airfield to the 201 of the Russian military base appeared on the agenda of bilateral negotiations. In addition, a slightly forgotten question of the return of Russian border guards to the Tajik-Afghan border appeared on the horizon. The desire of Russians is understandable and understandable. But in politics, as in life, nothing happens for nothing, especially when it comes to regional security. That is why the Tajik side linked the lease conditions of the 201 base, including with the solution of the very acute problem of labor migration of its citizens to Russia. Unfortunately, the existing agreements on this topic are generally symbolic. ”


As the analyst notes, in Dushanbe they hoped that the head of the Federal Migration Service, K. Romodanovsky, would bring with him fresh ideas on how to improve the conditions of stay of Tajik migrants in Russia. But that did not happen.

“Recently, Russian media reports have been filled with loud headlines:“ Unlimited migration is a threat to Russia's national security. ” Maybe. But I would like to ask, gentlemen of politics, if the problem is posed at such an interesting angle, where have you been before, when this very threat to national security “crawled” to the approaches of the white-stone? Or a multi-million armada of Uzbek, Tajik and Kyrgyz migrants overnight landed in Moscow and other Russian cities? ”


According to the author, Russian statistics is not able to take into account migration flows. Different sources call from 6 to 16 millions of migrant workers. The author asks a clear question: how can one solve the problem of migration if its scale is not known?

And then there's the Russian nationalists. These people are ready to patrol the streets of million-plus cities. Here, the analyst adds the FMS plans to build prison-sanitary tent camps for illegal immigrants.

“Let's be honest. What kind of integration in the post-Soviet space is in principle possible if Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly stated the need to tighten migration policies. In modern Russia, any tightening or restriction is a new round of corruption and nothing more ... "


Now, if we talk about the military presence of Russia in Tajikistan and the lease of the 201 th RSB, then, according to the author, the Tajik side is “quite rightly” counting on reciprocal steps, including in the area of ​​migration policy.

“Regarding the prospects of bilateral cooperation with Russia, I would like to say the following: if you want to be a partner, you are welcome, but be it to the end, and not in those areas where it’s profitable, convenient or necessary for you.”


The last, we add, is a clear exaggeration. After all, it may give the impression that it is beneficial for Russia to distribute millions and billions to the countries of Central Asia, which can simply ask for money out of habit. Perhaps Tajikistan would like Moscow to stop controlling huge flows of migrants. But some kind of a very fantastic benefit is obtained ... The issue of labor migration is painful for Tajiks precisely because they pump their GDP, including money transferred from Russia.

As for partnership, it is not based on fraternity, which has sunk into oblivion with the USSR. It is about profit, and Russia is doing a lot to ensure that this benefit is mutual. Russia seems to be doing too much in this direction. She is too generous ...

As for the analyst mentioned corruption, then in Tajikistan or Kyrgyzstan, of course, there is not and never has been.

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  1. Aydin
    Aydin 10 October 2013 07: 29 New
    14
    Now the Americans are trying to destabilize the situation in Central Asia, namely in the Ferghana Valley. Therefore, Russia should still have a military base there and control the supply of weapons
    1. krasin
      krasin 10 October 2013 08: 45 New
      +3
      Russia is doing even too much in this direction. She is too generous ...

      "How long will the dog pancake" - until the next quirk.
      1. Pit
        Pit 10 October 2013 11: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: krasin
        How long does a dog pancake

        Here, so that the next bzika would not happen, you need to tighten the collar and make a whisper in short.
    2. experienced
      experienced 10 October 2013 11: 48 New
      11
      Quote: Aydin
      Therefore, Russia should still have a military base there and control the supply of weapons

      When the Russian authorities understand that giving loans and equipment to the CA countries is the same as pouring water into sand ... You can do this for a long time and to no avail. Money will not get anywhere but the pockets of the bais and their relatives, the equipment will be disfigured by stupid exploitation or resold. Their mentality is such that they perceive normal conversation and concessions as weakness, and yesterday’s ally to sell it is even perceived as valor ... You need to talk to them, keeping your hand firmly on the lever of the vice in which the Faberge of the Bay is held. Then only solid (relatively) agreements can be reached. There China gives loans and then takes the land and enters its troops, China they are afraid and respected, and they look at Russia as a free milking machine. Our presidents can hang noodles on their ears, ask for a loan, gas and weapons, and then, under the groans of hard life, Russia will forgive noble loans ...
      As long as the Russian authorities continue to play according to the rules set by the buy-in, nothing shines for us, international norms and rules there mean no more than an empty phrase, TVM is a medieval market and the right is cunning or strong. In their eyes, they are cunning that they breed Russians for money under empty promises. The whole question they have is how to peacefully share the money that stupid Russians give.
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 October 2013 12: 05 New
        +5
        This is one, so to say, emotional assessment of what is happening ... Another aspect, the Americans will come there, shove their old weapons into the bahs, anti-Russian propaganda will only intensify with all the essential attributes - mujahideen and drug trafficking ... So how then to deal with this? Again, you have to fight, spend money ... So can they shove them old arsenals, which still need to be stored or disposed of (meaning, all the same, costs) ??
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 10 October 2013 12: 13 New
          +4
          "anti-Russian propaganda will only intensify" From there, so all the Russians were expelled much worse.
          "Mujahideen and drug trafficking ... So how to deal with it later?" And nothing that we are so in the first place in the import of heroin with which they generally do not fight in any way and on the 2nd in the import of geeks from the south? How much worse?
          1. Altona
            Altona 10 October 2013 18: 06 New
            +1
            Do you make heroin at home in the kitchen? Is heroin of Russian origin? Maybe you still need to improve the countermeasures?
            1. pawel57
              pawel57 10 October 2013 22: 36 New
              0
              So, by the way, drugs are quietly produced in Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, the North Caucasus, Azerbaijan, Transbaikal, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan. Drug control drugs are being distributed here.
              1. Ali-gurg
                Ali-gurg 11 October 2013 13: 34 New
                +1
                It’s good to ring into account
                Quote: pawel57
                So, by the way, drugs are quietly produced in Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan,

                No one in Uzbekistan doesn’t produce it and even doesn’t give transportation ... Have you seen this in your fantasies?
                1. de_monSher
                  de_monSher 11 October 2013 13: 41 New
                  +2
                  No one in Uzbekistan doesn’t produce it and even doesn’t give transportation ... Have you seen this in your fantasies?


                  I don’t even pay attention to this h-nu - though, any NORMAL person who understands and WANTS to understand the situation knows that for drugs in Uzbekistan they are bent 10 times, and even for life in the G pose and will leave ...

                  It’s useless to explain these things to those people who don’t WANT to know something, but want it to be HOW THEY THINK.
        2. experienced
          experienced 10 October 2013 12: 20 New
          +9
          Quote: Altona
          Another aspect, the Americans will come there, shove their old weapons to the bays, anti-Russian propaganda will only intensify with all the indispensable attributes, mujahideds and drug trafficking ..

          Maybe it’s enough to spend on this scarecrow? How much money can be allocated from the Russian budget for this? The drug traffic is organized by the beys themselves and all the benefits from it go into their pockets and our military bases will not be able to influence it in any way, they will immediately get their hands on them and the perpetrators will be punished. It's time to equip the Russian border with these blackmailers and strictly follow the principle that no one except Russian border guards will protect Russia. Otherwise, every year we will be milked under the tales of "do not give money and it will burn near your borders", "only we are a buffer on the way of mujahideen and drugs. Give money ...". With the money that was stupidly "thrown" into the CA countries, it would have been possible to equip the border for a long time and reliably block drug traffic and the flow of migrants, and the border guards would be on the territory of Russia in the firm belief that troops and troops would always come to their aid if necessary. artillery and aviation, and not so that you get out as you want, like a column of aborigines went to your aid. And the aborigines are in no hurry and even turned back when they heard the sounds of battle, like the Russians are fighting, but life is dear to us. We have already passed and have experience ...
          By establishing a border and introducing a visa regime, Russia receives a very powerful lever of influence on the bays.
          1. Altona
            Altona 10 October 2013 18: 04 New
            +2
            With American bases and with bays at the borders will be very easy?
            1. experienced
              experienced 10 October 2013 18: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: Altona
              With American bases and with bays at the borders will be very easy?

              With equipped technical means and a well-guarded border, Russia will be much easier and calmer than now hi After this, the introduction of a visa regime, the deportation of illegal migrants to their historical homeland will become even easier and calmer
              1. Altona
                Altona 10 October 2013 18: 17 New
                +1
                It also costs money, firstly, and secondly, let’s then equip the Russian border along the lines of the century like 15-16, because without making claims on the former Soviet Turkestan, the borders themselves will go there ... At least with declarations, outdated weapons and loans should be encroached on this region ... By your measures, the region will be drawn into other orbits ...
              2. Altona
                Altona 10 October 2013 18: 34 New
                +1
                As for visas ... It is not worth introducing visas officially, but inside the country what kind of arbeitenausweis thread is needed, there will be something in between the visa and the work permit, by the document number you can get a guest worker account ... Well, you can come up with what kind of bureaucracy if there is a piece of paper, then it will be possible to demand its availability from both the employer and the employee, and justify its issuance ... I agree, they will say. that a piece of paper can be bought, etc. Well, without a piece of paper, anarchy in general ... And you have to fight with the sale of government securities, put 100-200 people for an encroachment on the sovereign’s affairs, how about counterfeiters ...
              3. Altona
                Altona 10 October 2013 19: 13 New
                +1
                With equipped technical means and a well-guarded border, Russia will be much easier and calmer than now hi After this, the introduction of a visa regime, the deportation of illegal migrants to their historical Motherland will become even easier and calmer
                --------------------------------
                How long is it easier and is it much calmer ... The classic scheme "Russian princes-Polovtsy" ... Only then will it increase in New Batu ...
                1. pawel57
                  pawel57 10 October 2013 22: 38 New
                  0
                  But you are putinoid.
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 10 October 2013 23: 18 New
                    +1
                    Can you talk without labels and on business? And the labels are completely wrong ... Or just yell that the patriot and shoot at the gas tanks?
          2. a52333
            a52333 10 October 2013 19: 57 New
            +1
            By setting the border and entering the visa regime
            AHA, with one addition: The train reaches the border of the vehicle (such a clean Kyrgyz-Uzbek lol ).
            2. Migrant workers pass through customs and border controls.
            3. They board the train that came from our side (after normal maintenance and without drug addiction in secluded places)
            4. Unmanned aerial vehicles control the steppe from the mice.
          3. Mujahiddin777
            Mujahiddin777 10 October 2013 23: 27 New
            0
            From the control of the Taj-Afghan border, the Russian border outpost, or rather its generals, filled their pockets quite well ... Transport planes flew 2-3 times a week. Nobody checked them, and they were loaded with "powder" ...
          4. Ali-gurg
            Ali-gurg 11 October 2013 13: 35 New
            -1
            Quote: seasoned
            By establishing a border and introducing a visa regime, Russia receives a very powerful lever of influence on the bays.

            You won’t get anything ... you will get no more and no less enemies on the border ... You are not expressing distant thoughts ... well, at least the Russian leadership understands this.
      2. Letterksi
        Letterksi 10 October 2013 13: 33 New
        +1
        Everything to the point! If you give them weapons, then these weapons in the event of destabilization of these countries are very likely to fall into the hands of gangs and will be turned against Russia and its interests, as well as against a truly civilian population. It was not for nothing that in the 19th century Russia had to enter these territories in order to remove all the stolen and unprincipled buys. After that, Russia became calmer and in these territories the world reigned.

        At the beginning of the 20th century, such a phenomenon as Basmachism was nothing more than the same thing that is still expected in the region. Basmachism practically ceased in 38-39 years. since England from Asia switched to internal European affairs. History has already forgotten how English rifles were pulled out of the Chu River in the 37th. And how many similar weapon caches across the region are now unknown
        1. INTER
          INTER 10 October 2013 15: 23 New
          0
          Quote: LetterKsi
          Everything to the point! If you give them weapons, then these weapons in the event of destabilization of these countries are very likely to fall into the hands of gangs and will be turned against Russia and its interests, as well as against a truly civilian population. It was not for nothing that in the 19th century Russia had to enter these territories in order to remove all the stolen and unprincipled buys. After that, Russia became calmer and in these territories the world reigned.

          I agree with something, but there is another moment to arm, but not the most modern, but 1 or 2 times weaker than those that will be in service with us in the future!
          1. Altona
            Altona 10 October 2013 18: 08 New
            +1
            No one will give them anything modern ... And not because the cap is not for Senka, but because the soldier is there at the wrong level ...
        2. Kasym
          Kasym 10 October 2013 17: 41 New
          +2
          BeterKsi. So, for information. The last gang of Basmachi was caught (liquidated) in 1954, in Turkmenistan. hi
        3. Altona
          Altona 10 October 2013 18: 12 New
          +2
          But Turkestan was not voluntarily part of the USSR, it was forced by force ... Or did the Red Army Sukhov and Petruha carry out a diplomatic mission?
      3. Kasym
        Kasym 10 October 2013 18: 15 New
        +6
        Good afternoon, Alexey. Congratulations on your birth grandson! Pust grows large and healthy, and delighted you! fellow
        Best wishes, your colleague!
        On this topic . I don’t think that the Kyrgyz Republic and Tajikistan will receive a lot of money. There are mainly weapons and equipment, with b / y. But 170 mil., Requested at the border, can be cut - here control is absolutely necessary. And it’s better not to rush - the United States will close the majority base, and then we'll see. Once you’ve already been deceived - you have learned. Our business there have been thrown more than once. And the authorities are to blame for everything, and not ordinary people and businessmen - they can sell one enterprise to different investors (from different countries). It’s too early for them in the TS - they will restore order at home.
        Every year Kazakhstan provides assistance - fuel oil, solarium, benzene, ygol, flour, loans. And we ask only one thing - to deal with the water. "And things are still there" - they throw water in the winter - there is a flood in the south, and there is nothing to water in the summer. In the end, they spat on everything and built huge reservoirs, it cost a lot of money, last year they started up (but the work seems to be not finished).
        I also want to note that there have been noticeably fewer guest workers (purely visual) - some laws have been adopted, and maybe the crisis is affecting us. I do not know this topic well, but a construction relative said that it became difficult with this. And now the neighbors did the repair, the cops arrived and took the two away (something was wrong with the document.). The neighbor was running, breeding something and swearing a lot. Something like this . hi
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 10 October 2013 17: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Aydin
      in the Ferghana Valley. Therefore, Russia must still have a military base there

      + In the Ferghana Valley stopudovo! in Osh and optionally a base in Batken
      However, now that Russia “has declared assistance in a timely manner, or rather, even in a firefighting order,” she, the expert believes, has managed “Seize the initiative from the USA

      It seems to me that China is intercepting at least the power unit.
  2. a52333
    a52333 10 October 2013 07: 58 New
    +2
    “Regarding the prospects of bilateral cooperation with Russia, I would like to say the following: if you want to be a partner, you are welcome, but be it to the end, and not in those areas where it’s profitable, convenient or necessary for you.”
    Essenger: wake up !! Here are your friends (kotoryk is better than Russia) with whom you are not ready to spoil relations once again shout: give porridge and give a spoon.
    1. Very old
      Very old 10 October 2013 08: 33 New
      +2
      Kyrgyz people are asking 170 million to arrange the border. I wouldn’t regret it - the screen is a narcotic, which means it’s sensible and not free.
      1. a52333
        a52333 10 October 2013 08: 51 New
        +4
        It will be so, both for them and Dushanbe. And then Uzbekistan, otherwise it will start crying: Kyrgyzstan was armed, don’t let us, we will make friends with the Americans. And after that, the Kyrgyz and Uzbeks will say: put your own border guards, otherwise it's no use to ours, their rams "are not milked wassat ", and they have entered into a share with drug couriers.
        1. de_monSher
          de_monSher 10 October 2013 19: 11 New
          0
          And then to Uzbekistan, otherwise it will start to cry: Kyrgyzstan was armed, don’t let us, we are


          Tales did not try to write - Russian Folk? You will succeed, you will find your calling ...

          This is when it is Uzbekistan, but cried? For its part, it seems, Uzbekistan FULLY withstands the letter and spirit of the treaty of Alliance with Russia, from November, like, 2005. It is part of the structure of zonal air defense. The border is locked on its own. For equipment purchased - regularly pays. Training of its military personnel regularly pays. The USA does not allow ideological sabotage in its territory = Unlike you, for example, Russia =. What are you yapping at him from your chauvinistic positions? Allies nahhhhh aren't needed, so it turns out?

          Let's see your, that is, Russia, interests in SA. let's bend our fingers - "Talko", new business projects like high-altitude hydroelectric power plants, and several military bases. Okay, military bases are a vital necessity. They are needed - no objection. "Talko" - an aluminum plant ... A huge environmental disaster for the southern regions of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, the most fertile, it should be noted. HPPs. Estimated - huge environmental and economic damage in the event of the slightest disaster. But the region is earthquake-prone. And nobody can guarantee the reliability of hydroelectric power plants, let us recall the disaster at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station. Considering that the SSH hydroelectric power station, in comparison with what is planned to be created in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, is a dwarf, the scale of a disaster is possible, it is even difficult to extrapolate.

          At the same time, ordinary citizens of Russia have not received or will not benefit from these business projects. It is simply pushed by certain business lobbies. Including, the company against Uzbekistan = Kazakhstan is also very cautious, but opposes these projects - but it has less room for maneuver =, which categorically objects to these business projects, for the most part is included in this anti-PR.

          And so what do we have in this article and in this discussion? Yes ... for the most part, nothing but chauvinism, stupidity and storytelling ...

          Look something like this ...
          1. a52333
            a52333 10 October 2013 20: 16 New
            +1
            You would google before a remark. Karimov's outstretched hand describes circles like an hour hand. GIVE, GIVE, GIVE - only the directions are different.

            [quote] [quote] Uzbekistan will receive from Russia on behalf of Medvedev 120 tons of humanitarian aid for refugees from Kyrgyzstan 17.06.2010/365/2010) [quote] President Karimov said yesterday that the presence of a Russian military contingent in Uzbekistan is undesirable. A day earlier, Karimov also said that Uzbekistan had recently received $ 13,2 in arms assistance from China. The President said that "from now on, Uzbekistan can count on China's military assistance to repel aggression." Independence Day is celebrated in Uzbekistan tomorrow. According to reports from Tashkent, the country is taking tough security measures. Local television and posters posted all over Tashkent urge the population to be vigilant, BBC reports. [Quote] Investment cooperation is gaining momentum. Over the past five years, the total volume of Russian investments in the economy of Uzbekistan amounted to about six billion dollars. [/ Quote] [/ quote] And for sweet 25, you can dig for the rest. [Quote] According to the Central Bank of Russia, from Russia in the first half this year, 13,2 billion US dollars were sent. Most of this money goes to Central Asia, in particular to Uzbekistan. This figure has increased by 25 percent compared to last year. [quote] According to the Central Bank of Russia, USD 2010 billion was sent from Russia in the first half of this year. Most of this money goes to Central Asia, in particular to Uzbekistan. This figure increased by 13,2 percent compared to last year. [/ Quote] and for dessert in 25, you can dig the rest [quote] According to the Central Bank of Russia, XNUMX billion US dollars were sent from Russia in the first half of this year. Most of this money goes to Central Asia, in particular to Uzbekistan. This indicator has increased by XNUMX percent compared to last year. [/ quote]
            Total transfers according to the Central Bank for the first half of 2010 13,2 billion Dollars
            1. de_monSher
              de_monSher 10 October 2013 20: 25 New
              +1
              Uzbekistan will receive 120 tons of humanitarian aid for refugees from Kyrgyzstan on behalf of Medvedev on June 17.06.2010, XNUMX)


              Uzbekistan, in June 2010, hosted about 500.000-700.000 refugees = according to some sources up to a million =, after the massacre in Kyrgyzstan and ended up on a hunger strike - 2010 was characterized by drought and low yields ...
              The CSTO’s reaction to these events was zero, after which Uzbekistan left the organization. 120 tons of humanitarian aid, thanks. I think Uzbekistan will personally return to YOU ​​these 120 tons (that is, 3 loaded IL-76 aircraft) of cargo cargoes, if God forbid, some major emergency will happen in Russia.

              Further ... in the 2009th year, I read the team report that was compiled by USAID = in fact, this was his last report, after which this subversive organization was kicked out of Uzbekistan =, which summed up the development of the CA states in the past decade. So, this organization, which generally did not treat Uzbekistan very well, stated the fact that Uzbekistan, which I did not borrow on the foreign market, and without getting into debt, managed to carry out quite large infrastructure transformations.

              Further, you understand - your diploma is not interesting to consider ...
            2. de_monSher
              de_monSher 10 October 2013 20: 46 New
              0
              Most of this money falls on Central Asia, in particular on Uzbekistan. This figure compared with last year increased by 25 percent.


              What can I say then? Enter the visa regime. Why are you moaning like a woman on demolition, and write fairy tales? Here you are, personally, if so smart, go to the State Duma and get the visa regime in place. It doesn’t matter to you - one more ally, one less - what’s the point here ... *)))
              1. a52333
                a52333 10 October 2013 20: 54 New
                +1
                RZHUNIMAGU !!!!
                [quote] one more ally, one less [/ quote] crying I just lost a friend. lol
                Ally!!! You do not confuse yourself with Kazakhstan! Ally for what? Profit sharing? Or according to the Collective Security Treaty Organization, when did they put up for the exercises of C-75? They are already streaming in Angola!
                [quote] go to the State Duma, and achieve entry of the visa regime [/ quote
                There is a process going on. yes
                1. de_monSher
                  de_monSher 10 October 2013 20: 58 New
                  +1
                  RZHUNIMAGU !!!!


                  = smiled = ... well, if you laugh ......... *)) I, actually, about the agreement of November 2005 on the Alliance between Russia and Uzbekistan, actually. If you are illiterate, there is no need to consider others the same. This time ...

                  Well, two - it’s good that the process is going on. The faster you, you personally, get drunk with chauvinism, the faster, God forbid, you will understand that our Grandfathers and Fathers built an international society, and blood was shed for it.

                  That's something like this ...
                  1. a52333
                    a52333 10 October 2013 21: 22 New
                    0
                    AHA, I remember these international relations. on 1989 year. which, he says, is no use, you are not picking cotton!
                    Well, if you laugh, then soon you will reach for oats ...
                    Why are you moaning like a woman on demolition
                    If you are illiterate

                    And please, I don’t insult you. nothing personal.
                    1. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 10 October 2013 21: 31 New
                      +1
                      AHA, with one addition: The train reaches the border of the vehicle (such a clean Kyrgyz-Uzbek lol).


                      And what is this called, if not such, "cunning" insult? You allow yourself incorrect statements, I allow myself incorrect statements - what's the problem? By and large, almost all our CIS trains often look like trash cans on wheels - but at the same time, mind you, I never allowed myself to speak out on this matter - although, believe me, I spent 2 years on expeditions in the Chernobyl zone , and I traveled a lot on trains ... all sorts of ... both Russian, and Belarusian, and Ukrainian ... And, from the hygienic state of OUR trains, I do not make a fetish ... *))) And, most importantly, chauvinism, too I do not allow - since my upbringing is purely Imperial, Soviet ...

                      So, let's first you yourself ... correct yourself, okay? *))
                      1. a52333
                        a52333 10 October 2013 21: 35 New
                        +1
                        Okay world. yes but
                        cunning insult
                        statement, you can not argue.
                      2. de_monSher
                        de_monSher 10 October 2013 21: 40 New
                        +2
                        The world ... *)) = held out his hand = ... *)))
                  2. de_monSher
                    de_monSher 10 October 2013 21: 37 New
                    +1
                    AHA, I remember these international relations. on 1989 year. which, he says, is no use, you are not picking cotton!


                    I am from Tashkent, and for all my life I collected 1 kg of cotton, for the sake of interest ... *) This is about the futility ...

                    Well, two ... maybe we will remember the 1865-69th years - the wars of Russia in Central Asia? *) Since the year 89, EVERYTHING, the former USSR, has been a priest with a pen - nationalism, etc. In Uzbekistan, he quickly waned, thank God. And God forbid - relapses, bursts are not expected.

                    So ... so ... such things ...
                    1. a52333
                      a52333 10 October 2013 21: 40 New
                      0
                      I am from Tashkent, and for all my life I collected 1 kg of cotton, for the sake of interest ...

                      And I grew up in Samarkand, and collected a ton of it, if it was wrong! Yes, I minusanul you there once. Relieved to return +.
                    2. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 10 October 2013 21: 57 New
                      +1
                      Relieved to return +.


                      Bullshit question ... *)) I never minus anyone and do not pay attention to it - even when I swear in vain. And this happens often ... *)))
                    3. a52333
                      a52333 10 October 2013 22: 03 New
                      0
                      Cher = Sherali?
                    4. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 10 October 2013 22: 06 New
                      0
                      Sherzod ... *)) You should probably know, since Samarkand, that Sherzod is an "interlinear" Iranian translation of the Greek name - Leonid ... *)

                      But anyway, I’m more familiar with the name - Cher ... *) I’ve got used to this name since childhood ... *)
                    5. a52333
                      a52333 10 October 2013 22: 11 New
                      0
                      Well, for the Uzbeks (in Samarkand) an infrequent name. are you Tajik
                    6. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 10 October 2013 22: 13 New
                      +2
                      An Uzbek seems to be ... purebred ... although ... = smiled = ... what is blood purity? *))) I personally do not know how much and what kind of it is mixed in me ... *)))
                    7. a52333
                      a52333 10 October 2013 22: 20 New
                      0
                      yes Scrape the Russian, you get a Tatar. Well, yes, that’s purely nominal, everyone’s crazy. I once read from Lukyanenko (which the Dozors wrote — he was from Chimkent. There are many references to Samarkand), so he claims that the Uzbeks used to be blue-eyed. Well, let’s say the Pamiris are still meeting. Yes you are right.
                    8. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 10 October 2013 22: 23 New
                      0
                      Khorezmians are many blue-eyed and red-haired ... *) Yes, and there are a lot of Greek blood, left from the past ... *)))
                    9. a52333
                      a52333 10 October 2013 22: 28 New
                      0
                      Well yes. You have half past eleven. Are you going to sleep?
                    10. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 10 October 2013 22: 30 New
                      0
                      I'm in St. Petersburg ... and soon I will go back to Ukraine ... *)
                    11. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 10 October 2013 22: 30 New
                      +1
                      But first - in Astana ... *)))))))))) I promised someone here ... *))))
                    12. a52333
                      a52333 10 October 2013 22: 32 New
                      0
                      Well, all right, Cher. Good night.
                    13. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 10 October 2013 22: 33 New
                      0
                      And you have great dreams. And again - sorry if I offended with anything ...
                    14. Daler
                      Daler 11 October 2013 07: 59 New
                      +2
                      And then your flagships are fake ... one RF and another SU .. and both Uzbeks .. yeah
                    15. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 11 October 2013 08: 18 New
                      +1
                      Gee ... *)

                      I’m Uzbek, but in what place is Uzbek? *))) This time. Well, two, you can, if you wish, if you suddenly feel that you, a native of the USSR, put a bird in your Account, and get the USSR flag. What is wrong? *)))

                      Well, three, what did you want to say, dear? *))
                    16. Daler
                      Daler 11 October 2013 08: 53 New
                      +1
                      I didn’t want to say anything, it’s just nice to know who your interlocutor is.
            3. Marek Rozny
              Marek Rozny 11 October 2013 08: 47 New
              0
              Yeah, someone in August threatened to come.
            4. de_monSher
              de_monSher 11 October 2013 10: 40 New
              0
              Actually, I said - "in the middle of October" ... And she, the middle, shas just comes. And I'm going to Astana ... As I promised ... so - don't, don't ... *))
  • de_monSher
    de_monSher 10 October 2013 21: 12 New
    +1
    Or according to the Collective Security Treaty Organization, when put up for the S-75 exercises?


    By Roly hat. Tashkent, along with Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev and Kharkov, were the most protected by air defense. The fact that, so far, the S-75 and S-200 have remained in service, suggests that massive air strikes are not expected from this region. Whoever shoots from here will be the Kyrgyz Republic, or launch planes - Afghanistan, which has all the aircraft, old broken-up Mi-8 helicopters. China, maybe with which Uzbekistan enters into a single block - the SCO? Maybe Pakistan, which is completely dependent on China? Who!

    And the old men S-75, and S-200, still can still be upgraded and kept on combat duty. Rather, they are honored veterans who have worked gloriously in their time, and right now, more ... they will work if necessary ...

    Now you google, modernization options as C 75 and C 200 ...
  • Ali-gurg
    Ali-gurg 11 October 2013 13: 40 New
    0
    Quote: a52333
    And then to Uzbekistan, otherwise it will start to cry

    Do not be afraid to Uzbekistan your rusty glands are not needed and we have been guarding our border for 22 years ...
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 10 October 2013 09: 49 New
    +6
    Quote: Very old
    Kyrgyz people are asking 170 million to arrange the border. I wouldn’t regret it - the screen is a narcotic, which means it’s sensible and not free.

    Do you think that they will really equip the border with this money? Well don't be so naive. When the drug is trampled and the militants from Afghanistan, Russia will firefight at their own expense to put up barriers and protect them with their soldiers.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 10 October 2013 17: 22 New
      +1
      Put a plus good
      If you do something thoroughly and for a long time.
      I would introduce the concept of Governor-General. A post that has more military functions, to which all military bases are subordinate, up to the border guards, I believe one will be enough for Central Asia. To pay the salary from the CSTO budget. To have the greatest powers, up to the physical elimination of "citizens" hostile to Russia. Since in order to combat drug trafficking, special special forces units are needed on helicopters. Since many corrupt security officials and those in power in these countries warm their hands on this. Received tip, fly out. First the stick, then the carrot.
  • smersh70
    smersh70 10 October 2013 08: 54 New
    13
    Quote: a52333
    Essenger: wake up

    and where does he smile he is only more for his homeland !!!!!! hi and about armed to the teeth .... look at the strength of the armed forces of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan ... what kind of armed are they to the teeth ... they give away all the old stuff ... and so the bases are filled to capacity ... can put a video where the tanks are near Yekaterinburg, they stand openly and without protection ..... Russia does the right thing and gives the junk .. on the one hand, at least some help to the CSTO members .... on the other, is freed from junk ......
    1. a52333
      a52333 10 October 2013 09: 14 New
      0
      Yes, it’s not an old thing, Vurgun. Yesterday, he argued with foam at the mouth that Kazakhstan’s relations with Central Asian countries should not be spoiled. The RF justifiably takes steps towards streamlining migration relations. Essenger announced
      Do whatever you want, but because of Russia, Kazakhstan will not spoil relations about the CA countries.
      Is Kazakhstan ready to "milk"? In terms of arms, it is understandable. A year later, there "fun" will begin.
  • Essenger
    Essenger 10 October 2013 09: 55 New
    +6
    Quote: a52333
    Essenger: wake up !!

    Greetings, Alex

    Quote: a52333
    with whom you are not ready to spoil the relationship once again shout: give porridge and give a spoon.

    And?
    1. a52333
      a52333 10 October 2013 20: 19 New
      0
      What well ???? Feed the time !!!! Just kidding, don't be offended.
      1. Essenger
        Essenger 11 October 2013 08: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: a52333
        What well ???? Feed the time !!!! Just kidding, don't be offended.


        No, what insults ... Everything is normal.
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo 10 October 2013 08: 11 New
    0
    in Central Asia, the economy does not develop with the collapse of the Soviet Union. here migrants come to us.
    1. Ali-gurg
      Ali-gurg 11 October 2013 13: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Alikovo
      in Central Asia, the economy does not develop with the collapse of the Soviet Union. here migrants come to us.

      CEP?
  • saag
    saag 10 October 2013 08: 13 New
    0
    “... In turn, Atambayev said that he was“ glad that relations between Kyrgyzstan and Russia are becoming truly full-blooded. ”“ They are becoming what they should be between fraternal and strategic allies, ”the president added.

    and here it is - http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1717399.html

    it cannot be called multi-vector, you cannot have money from two sides, and you can’t lose money with weapons and leave everything as it is, such allies ...
  • Ulysses
    Ulysses 10 October 2013 08: 14 New
    +9
    $ 1,3 billion talk of arming Russia Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan

    "Not a horse feed."
    Betrayed as soon as possible.
    And it is difficult to name these formations as full-fledged states.
  • Vorchun
    Vorchun 10 October 2013 08: 21 New
    +7
    I never cease to be amazed at the wealth of Russia, just some kind of "Cornucopia"! Their ministers and officials of all stripes, steal billions, friends and neighbors - weapons and money by billions. How not to covet, "friends from overseas" and closer to this.
  • Gennady1973
    Gennady1973 10 October 2013 08: 28 New
    +3
    With this money, it was possible and necessary to upgrade our weapons, but to put the obsolete one and not sponsor Asia. They will not betray Belarus to the extreme people, they will not betray.
  • sergaivenski
    sergaivenski 10 October 2013 08: 34 New
    +4
    For some reason, no one recalls the fact that the Basmachi operated in Central Asia until the 30s of the 20th century. Whenever possible, they went for the cordon to neighboring territories. Receiving generous funding from the intelligence services of Western states, the Basmach gangs invaded the territory (now independent
    ) the Union republics, sowing death and destruction. Russia essentially pulled Central Asia from the Middle Ages,
    taught the farmer literacy. No one recalls the fact that the inhabitants of the Central Asian republics always traded in trade and smuggling, having relatives in Iran and Afghanistan. And the weapons allocated to Kyrgyzstan
    and Tajikistan, may leave for the cordon, to the Taliban !!!
    1. a52333
      a52333 10 October 2013 09: 17 New
      +9
      Russia essentially pulled Central Asia from the Middle Ages,
      taught the farmer literacy.
      AHA, only after the departure of Russia they relieved plunged back. wassat fellow
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 10 October 2013 09: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: a52333
        AHA, only after the departure of Russia they relieved plunged back.

        I would add - with cries of joy and tears of happiness. But they began to "relieve themselves" when they smelled fried. They "relieved themselves" and remembered about Russia ...
  • wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 10 October 2013 08: 47 New
    +2
    in the photo - a cool APC. probably the money went to something else, were left only on an armored quad
    1. Қarabas
      Қarabas 10 October 2013 09: 50 New
      +1
      to move around the airport just right. why is there an armored personnel carrier?
  • bubla5
    bubla5 10 October 2013 09: 11 New
    +2
    Well, strengthening the border of Tajikistan has already allocated funds, and not small ones, only where they went is the question
  • IGS
    IGS 10 October 2013 09: 47 New
    +5
    LADIES tells us about the coming unemployment, but here 15 million do not know who. Are they kidding me? They also ask for money ... What is the border? What arrangement ??? If to equip, then by themselves, with their own hands, they "do not give money in their hands", they will drink and go unconscious in order to beg for more. Give them a weapon .. yes, this weapon will then shoot at us. Maybe enough to feed others? Inside the country, put in order, strengthen, and then think about what and to whom to give, but at a percentage and under strong guarantees. We spray again, and then not external problems begin, but internal ones. Has the experience of the Union taught you nothing? For everyone they were kind ... that they themselves ... sat down.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 10 October 2013 09: 58 New
    +7
    Total: almost one and a half billion American rubles of gifts, "live" money and plus - our "roof". On their part - a military base for which we will pay and hordes of large "specialists" moving freely to our cities. And of course - truly Asian hospitality and assurances of eternal love and friendship for centuries.
    Guys, and not sickly, they bred us, like rabbits ...
    1. Қarabas
      Қarabas 10 October 2013 10: 04 New
      +2
      >>> Guys, not sickly, they bred us like rabbits ...

      you have too bad opinions about yourself and about the country. I think your politicians are not so stupid that they would weigh so many nishtyaks without benefits for their country
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 10 October 2013 10: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: karabas
        you have too bad opinions about yourself and about the country.

        Just about the country I have a good opinion.
        Quote: karabas
        I think your politicians are not so stupid that they would weigh so many nishtyaks without benefits for their country

        But here I disagree. Yes, they are not stupid and "nishtyakov" weighed in full. But I don't see any benefits for the country. Well, the politicians had their interest, definitely. Both ours and theirs, so to speak, are of bilateral interest.
  • South
    South 10 October 2013 10: 14 New
    +6
    But are there any attempts to maintain the former influence in Asia that our cities are filled with hordes of wild rabble that successfully issues a budget, spreads infection, drugs, crime, takes away jobs from locals and just offends the eyes of a normal person?
  • v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 10 October 2013 10: 17 New
    +2
    Unfortunately, I was late to comment first. And the first comment would be: yes, what kind of independent states are these? Separating in 1991, did they imagine their future? Constantly with outstretched hand!
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 10 October 2013 16: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: v.lyamkin
      Separating in 1991,

      But what is such a mania in Russia, to imagine that all the neighbors separated from Russia in 1991? You do not remember the chronology at all? The Kyrgyz were generally the last to leave the USSR. These Slav brothers with the Balts were the first to jump, overtaking each other, fled from the Union, and not the Central Asian camps.
      1. a52333
        a52333 10 October 2013 21: 32 New
        -1
        Yep, exactly.
        v.lyamkin: Separating in the 1991 year, did they imagine their future?
        Was it different before 1991? lol That is why
        Marek Rozny: These are Slav brothers with the Balts first to jump
        fed tired.
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 10 October 2013 23: 45 New
          +3
          Well, maybe Tajikistan was still subsidized (but there was a relatively small amount), but Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were donors of the republican budget. Kyrgyzstan, if I’m not mistaken, came out almost at zero.
          1. de_monSher
            de_monSher 11 October 2013 07: 32 New
            +1
            but Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan were donors to the republican budget. Kyrgyzstan, if I’m not mistaken, came out almost at zero.


            Eh ...

            At the junction of three countries - Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan, they were going to make a cluster for the production of electronic components. Everything was at hand - ultrapure silicon was going to be taken in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, infrastructure support was also from us. In the 2008th, I visited in Kyrgyzstan, abandoned production facilities in the mountains - damn it, because in due time they even took into account that in the mountains of Kyrgyzstan, clean air and problems with the hermetic zone could be beautifully circumvented by this ...

            Mdya ... * (((Sorry ...
        2. de_monSher
          de_monSher 11 October 2013 07: 38 New
          +1
          Marek Rozny: These are Slav brothers with the Balts first to jump

          fed tired.


          Wuhu ... especially the Baltic states ... tired of feeding Russia ... heh ... *)
    2. alone
      alone 10 October 2013 22: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: v.lyamkin
      Unfortunately, I was late to comment first. And the first comment would be: yes, what kind of independent states are these? Separating in 1991, did they imagine their future? Constantly with outstretched hand!


      look at which republics boycotted the referendum on the preservation of the USSR and which voted in favor. essentially ruining the union itself, you also blame those who are not at all to blame for this.
  • saag
    saag 10 October 2013 10: 31 New
    0
    a nice quadric in the photo, put four kilowatt motor wheels there, 2 each, an independent suspension of the wheels, a controller in the front, a rechargeable battery from Optim at the back and such a thing can be useful
  • The gentleman
    The gentleman 10 October 2013 10: 51 New
    +2
    “But I propose another way of solving the problem. Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan - they have no future as states. Let's create a ninth federal district there ... "(c) Zhirinovsky V.V.
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  • ed65b
    ed65b 10 October 2013 11: 09 New
    +2
    Of course, there is no need to help the formation of the army. especially the Kyrgyz and Tajiks the same. what on donkeys with bows and spears should they fight off the adversary? But when it flutters it will be too late. And this is the most dangerous direction. as Comrade said Zhukov, the direction of the main blow with all the charms of access to the Ferghana Valley and Kazakhstan. And the people in the army will serve less and less in our streets.
  • KOH
    KOH 10 October 2013 11: 12 New
    0
    If we leave everything as it is, and do not help to strengthen the borders of Tajiks and Kyrgyz, then we will get Afghanistan along our borders, with a huge length, and the Pentagon will say: Okay, the ring is closing. "
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 10 October 2013 11: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: CON
      later we will get Afghanistan along its borders, with a huge length,

      We will get it anyway, hopes for the "brothers" will not come true. They will "merge" us at the first opportunity. Do you need examples?
    2. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 10 October 2013 13: 48 New
      0
      It is clear that Russia is once again in a situation with one solution: to help. And they use it.
  • Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 10 October 2013 11: 20 New
    +4
    Financial and military assistance should be subject to cost control. And then stupidly stole. True, in this case they stupidly steal with the Russians. ((((
  • New Russia
    New Russia 10 October 2013 11: 50 New
    +5
    They are the base for us, and in return we will let even more killers of rapists and drug traffickers come to us) Do not you think that the meaning of the base is the protection of Russian people? And if in return we give another thousand other people to tear to the geeks this .... A bit of a strange policy) No? .... I'm probably a fool who does not understand all the subtleties!)
  • ed65b
    ed65b 10 October 2013 12: 01 New
    +4
    Tajiks will not give the border. How will Rakhmon transport heroin? This is the first huckster in Asia.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 10 October 2013 13: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: ed65b
      Tajiks will not give the border. How will Rakhmon transport heroin?

      For this, ten meters of the border in a long-term lease will be enough for him. And with the "boys" from Afghanistan will have to share.
  • Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 10 October 2013 12: 28 New
    +3
    Rahmon’s also) (well, there’s a problem. But first you have to stop drugs in Russia, shoot cops and bureaucrats, you look and the situation gets better. The fewer the buyer, the less goods. Once I drove a range finder to Bishkek. They said it’s easy you’re carrying the belongings - everyone is harassing them like a drug — the green way to Russia. Therefore, the key is the execution of traitors. Creepy, public, I propose to hang them in the squares, let everyone see them. Ironically, it will work. Russia needs to create a special police force with us, introduce the NKVDshnikov secretly , that would merge bought, and bought - hang. Hang. And hang.
  • Humpty
    Humpty 10 October 2013 12: 49 New
    -1
    Better buy telescopes for them. There will be no harm. What else, you have not seen how the Kyrgyz soldiers "Cornflower" are unloaded from the body and how many of them need to be used for this.
  • Algor73
    Algor73 10 October 2013 13: 16 New
    +1
    It’s clear that it will crash there. But only when? And who will hook you?
  • buzer
    buzer 10 October 2013 13: 22 New
    +2
    "Kazakhstan donated military-technical property to the Armed Forces of Kyrgyzstan," REGNUM correspondent was informed in the press center of the Ministry of Defense of the republic today, December 9.
    According to the ministry, in accordance with an intergovernmental agreement signed by the defense ministers of the two countries in March 2011 in Astana, the Kazakh side allocated 9 GAZ-66 vehicles, 11 ZIL-131 units, 5 armored personnel carriers-80 with weapons and 30 PM- mortars to the Ministry of Defense of Kyrgyzstan. 120 for a total of about $ XNUMX million. "
  • SIT
    SIT 10 October 2013 13: 29 New
    +1
    And why was Russia most interested in maintaining the 201st base? Rohmon and Co. rely on what when the United States leaves Afghanistan? Without the Russian 201st, he will not sit there for a week. His fellow tribesmen who work in Russia send 47% of the country's GDP to Tajikistan, i.e. almost half. If you throw them all home, then there the standard of living will fall by more than 2 times, because now they are eating here, but only their families are there. So do not give any native governments any money. Only send old military equipment and advisor instructors who will teach the aborigines and control so that the equipment is not driven to the spirits by the river for cheap. But only our border guards can stop the drug through the Tajik border, and even then if they are changed periodically. How will a Tajik officer catch drug dealers if his family lives in a neighboring village where the main drug lord is the head of the local police?
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 10 October 2013 13: 50 New
      0
      East is a delicate matter. They pretend that they need to be persuaded, and as a result receive bonuses.
  • buzer
    buzer 10 October 2013 13: 40 New
    0
    to arm the Kyrgyz and Tajiks, it’s not necessary to give them new things! In warehouses there are a lot of property that is still written off. But there are problems with migrants in many developed countries and there is no ideal solution to these problems. Somewhere worse, somewhere better. In Russia, most Tajiks and Kyrgyz people at least work. And in Europe, most Arabs, Africans and other visitors mainly go for benefits, and not for work.
  • knn54
    knn54 10 October 2013 15: 02 New
    0
    Armament of any country "to the teeth" puts its army in strong dependence on the SUPPLIER, which will affect the policies of these countries.
    Yes, and it is necessary to train drugs, because the Taliban are warriors wise by military experience. The officers should be trained in Russian schools, as the Yankees (not in vain) trained almost 100% of the officers of the Armed Forces of the Latin American armies.
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  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 10 October 2013 15: 52 New
    0
    Quote: knn54
    Armament of any country "to the teeth" puts its army in strong dependence on the SUPPLIER, which will affect the policies of these countries.

    In general, I agree, we feed the United States through the dollar without any bonuses, there may be some benefits. But the borders with the CA countries need to be equipped and strengthened so that it can be closed at any moment. There will be some leverage, and so allow the move to Russia if they arrive at any moment and so do not interfere. And drug trafficking is an unnecessary obstacle.
  • samoletil18
    samoletil18 10 October 2013 17: 04 New
    0
    If they throw off all the junk from the warehouses for $ 1,1 billion, then somehow it will turn out in an American way. We got rid of the trash, made us addicted, and with migration you can provide such benefits that we ourselves don’t want.
  • South
    South 10 October 2013 19: 32 New
    0
    Well, so far, Zaripov has been tried in Moscow - a serial rapist, he was previously convicted of robbery in Moscow, went to his asses back to Moscow to work, to force minors. by the way, this animal is sick with AIDS
    and let us help the Asians
  • AlexP47
    AlexP47 10 October 2013 20: 48 New
    +4
    Why do we need such "members" of the Customs Union? Are we not enough of them problems? We arm, provide jobs, supply duty-free fuel, allow us to fill our cities and villages, teach, treat for free, and in return - black ingratitude, crime and drugs. When will this mess end? How long can you milk Russia? Do we have our own problems?
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 October 2013 22: 56 New
    +2
    Here are the Merikatos and are furious that Bishkek and Dushanbe have become "again" friends with us. For them it is like a bone in their throat. So far, they, the "Merikatos", have been unable to drive a wedge between our former CIS members.
  • Ols76
    Ols76 11 October 2013 04: 48 New
    0
    I wouldn’t spare money for arranging the border, Russia will benefit from a well-guarded border and will most likely be much calmer than now in terms of supplying drugs to Russia through Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 11 October 2013 08: 47 New
      -1
      Who argues that drugs should be fenced off? Only then is it easier to strengthen the border between Afghanistan and the CIS than Russian-Kazakh.
  • catapractic
    catapractic 12 October 2013 16: 04 New
    +1
    money down the drain
  • ekzorsist
    ekzorsist 14 October 2013 18: 32 New
    -1
    Quote: seasoned
    Quote: Aydin
    Therefore, Russia should still have a military base there and control the supply of weapons

    When the Russian authorities understand that giving loans and equipment to the CA countries is the same as pouring water into sand ... You can do this for a long time and to no avail. Money will not get anywhere but the pockets of the bais and their relatives, the equipment will be disfigured by stupid exploitation or resold. Their mentality is such that they perceive normal conversation and concessions as weakness, and yesterday’s ally to sell it is even perceived as valor ... You need to talk to them, keeping your hand firmly on the lever of the vice in which the Faberge of the Bay is held. Then only solid (relatively) agreements can be reached. There China gives loans and then takes the land and enters its troops, China they are afraid and respected, and they look at Russia as a free milking machine. Our presidents can hang noodles on their ears, ask for a loan, gas and weapons, and then, under the groans of hard life, Russia will forgive noble loans ...
    As long as the Russian authorities continue to play according to the rules set by the buy-in, nothing shines for us, international norms and rules there mean no more than an empty phrase, TVM is a medieval market and the right is cunning or strong. In their eyes, they are cunning that they breed Russians for money under empty promises. The whole question they have is how to peacefully share the money that stupid Russians give.

    You are absolutely right !!!
    In the former republics of Central Asia they rule - a handful of small-sized bikers, local khanschiks, BUT with what huge ambitions!
    It is necessary to pursue a tough policy with these centuries-old vestiges, since the only thing they recognize is FORCE. A little what's wrong with the wall! Here they understand, in another way the Asian mentality wakes up - steal, deceive, rob (if you are more) ...