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Tajikistan-Russia: base - to be, migrants - too ...

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The House of Representatives of the Supreme Assembly of the Republic of Tajikistan ratified the agreement with the Russian Federation on the duration of the stay of the Russian 201 base in the territory of the state. Regarding the substantial delay in the ratification of the agreement, the Tajik parliament published a number of materials on the Military Review. The material was also published that the ratification could take place on the eve of the presidential elections in Tajikistan, where the current head of Emomali Rahmon is again considered the favorite.


Tajikistan-Russia: base - to be, migrants - too ...


In principle, the Tajik parliament really did everything in order to delay ratification closer to the presidential elections, which in the republic will have to pass on November 6. The voting results in the House of Representatives are quite predictable: almost 97% of deputies were in favor of ratification.

Before the deputies' voting, the head of the Tajik defense department, Sherali Khayrulloyev, “warmed up”, speaking about partnership with Russia and building a joint security system. The Minister of Defense said, it would seem, obvious things, in connection with which another question from the series arises: what prevented Khayrulloev and Tajik parliamentarians from taking up the document earlier, especially considering that the Russian deputies ratified the agreement back in May.

In principle, it is not so difficult to answer this question. What prevented, what prevented ... Yes, simply, apparently, every parliament is trying to ratify something important under a certain date. The Russian parliamentarians tried to celebrate the anniversary of the inauguration of May, but the Tajik people wanted to coincide with their “red” calendar day for the presidential elections, or, as they say in Tajikistan, for the elections of President Rakhmon ...

Of course, the agreement that the Russian military base will remain in Tajikistan, at least until 2042, will cost a fair fee. To be honest, expecting gifts today is not necessary at all from any country in the world, it is also strange to expect them from Tajikistan, and therefore “alaverdy” from Russia was meant a priori. Let us understand what the volumes of this “alaverdi” for official Dushanbe were prepared by official Moscow. Over the 30 years of the Russian base, Russia was “asked” to modernize the Tajik army (supply weapons, conduct appropriate training of military personnel), supply Russian oil free of duty to a certain limit (beyond the limit the duty will act), as well as resolve the issue of Tajik guest workers.

Well, if the issues of modernizing the Tajik army and supplying oil without duties to the few in Russia are puzzling, then the migration issue arises extremely sharply. And the “solution” to this issue is that from now on Tajik immigrants, unlike all other citizens of the CIS, will be able to get a permit for three years work in Russia (other citizens of the CIS countries have the right to work for a year in the Russian Federation, then the permission must be renewed in the relevant authorities).

The speaker of the Russian State Duma Sergey Naryshkin, who arrived in Dushanbe on Monday with the head of the Federal Migration Service of Russia Konstantin Romodanovsky and the head of Rossotrudnichestvo Konstantin Kosachev, confirmed that Tajik citizens will be able to work in Russia for three years. However, the same Naryshkin noted that full equality of labor rights can be realized only in the space of the Eurasian Union, the creation of which is based on the Union of the Customs, of which Tajikistan is not yet a member.

Naryshkin and his colleagues on the delegation held a series of meetings at which the most active issues of discussion were labor migration in Tajikistan. At the same time, the State Duma Speaker said that he was concerned about the issue of increasing the number of those migrants who fall into the risk group. The Russian delegation discussed this situation with deputies of the Supreme Assembly of Tajikistan.

For Tajikistan, the question of finding their labor migrants in Russia is no less important than for Russia. If Russians are frightened by the increase in the number of guest workers in the country and the authorities' focus on keeping their doors open in their attitude, then the Tajik authorities are concerned about any hypothetical barriers that Russia can put up as citizens of the RT. The fact is that over a third of Tajikistan’s GDP is made up of precisely the cash receipts of citizens working in Russia. At the same time, official Dushanbe, to all appearances, cares little about how hard (legal or not) this money was received - the main thing is that their substantial part in the form of transfers comes to the republic. If Russia will put up at least some barrier here, then Tajikistan, sorry for straightforwardness, will simply cease to exist as a state, if, of course, others do not “help what they can.”

In general, the Russian base will continue its stay on Tajik territory, so to speak, in exchange for immigrant allowances, duty-free oil supplies and assistance in modernizing the republic’s Armed Forces. Big or small price? Well, here is how to look ... You could, of course, put pressure on Rakhmon, as stated in the famous film, making an offer that he could not refuse, but the Russian government chose a different way - the softest way. And the path of power, they are often inscrutable ...

But there are political forces in Tajikistan, which are unhappy with such generous payment for the military base from Russia ... Oynihol Bobonazarov, who goes to the presidential election from the so-called reforming forces, is one of these political forces.


Oynihol Bobonazarova


This lady (by profession “human rights activist”) declares that staying at the Russian 201 base in the Republic of Tatarstan until 2042 is too long - this is the time that people have not been asked if they want to have a foreign military base on their territory at all - two, and that she (personally Bobonazarov) is generally concerned about the migration of Tajiks to Russia - these are three ... Migration policy should be put in order, t. to. quote:

Last year, 1055 corpses were brought from Russia to Tajikistan. But the real number of deaths and death tolls is higher. Some are buried there.


Mrs. Bobonazarova! Your concern for Tajik migrants is, of course, impressive. After all, the people of Russia are also ready to take care of them indirectly: let them work at home - nobody seems to be pulling on their ears ... Well, about the "1055 corpses", so these are statistics ... If out of one and a half, or even two million Tajik guest workers in Russia 1055 died - this is the mortality rate, which is lower than in the territory of Tajikistan itself. Why not say this? .. In general, invite migrants back home - we do not mind ...
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  1. SAG
    SAG 8 October 2013 07: 58
    -1
    Such karma for them means ... to stand in the way of drug trafficking on Russian territory!
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 8 October 2013 08: 07
      13
      Well, in our country, the contingent is quite limited, so I would like to limit the invasion of locusts. And then soon, except for the Russian military there will be no one left ......
      1. Quiet
        Quiet 8 October 2013 08: 18
        35
        Well, in our country the contingent is quite limited in Tajikistan, so I would like to limit the invasion of locusts

        I propose to introduce a quota !!! How many of our military are there, so many of them here .... laughing
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 8 October 2013 12: 39
          +2
          Quote: Quiet
          I propose to introduce a quota !!! How many of our military are there, so many of them here ....

          Since 2015, everyone will start traveling on passports, except for Belarus and Kazakhstan. And the laws in the Duma are on tightening migration policies ...
          If you remove the Gaster, then we will have unemployment in the region of 0,5-1% and then the Russians will not have to move from place to place in search of work, as DAM suggests.

          There are jobs where ours do not hurt and go. Moreover, all these crowds of migrants in large cities. And there with work, more or less things are normal.
          The problem of unemployment in our province, but in small single-industry towns, where migrant workers and so no.
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 8 October 2013 16: 58
            +1
            Since 2015, everyone will start traveling on passports, except for Belarus and Kazakhstan. And the laws in the Duma are on tightening migration policies ...

            There are jobs where ours do not hurt and go. Moreover, all these crowds of migrants in large cities. And there with work, more or less things are normal.
            The problem of unemployment in our province, but in small single-industry towns, where migrant workers and so no.


            1. According to foreign passports - this is not any toughening, but window dressing. Tightening is when entering a country with visas. But the authorities do not go for it - either imperial ambitions do not allow it, or something else
            2. The population of large cities of Russia - from 40 to 50% of the total. And migrant workers will appear there, occupy available jobs in Moscow time, then other millionaires, then sub-millionaires, etc. - It was already, the experience of Germany, the WB as an example. Well, it is clear that migrant workers will not go to small cities where there is no work.
            1. Gordeich
              Gordeich 8 October 2013 19: 47
              +2
              "Well, it is clear that migrant workers will not go to small towns where there is no work."

              They are already in "small" cities and even in villages with a population of 10-20 thousand people. They work everywhere: construction sites, utilities, woodworking workshops, road construction.
          2. Pushkar
            Pushkar 8 October 2013 17: 40
            +2
            Quote: Russ69
            There are jobs where ours do not hurt and go. Moreover, all these crowds of migrants in large cities. And there with work, more or less things are normal.
            The problem of unemployment in our province, but in small single-industry towns, where migrant workers and so no.

            I’m building a house in stages (with money tight). If we take the price requested by the Ukrainians and Moldavians per unit, then the price requested by the Tajiks is 1,4-1,5 times higher. Moreover, Tajiks never have anything (from bedding, dishes to tools), and their qualifications are lower and there is no education. But show off the sea. When for work estimated by the foreman at 13 tr requested 25 TR, patience burst and flooded them. Yes, and Tajikistan has long been a bastion against drugs. Google FSKN.
          3. amp
            amp 8 October 2013 19: 29
            +1
            "Security and stability in the Western Balkans is a high priority for the UK, after the history of the last two decades.

            In big cities, the problem is with a decent salary.
            Migrant workers are a huge army of strike breakers.
        2. Orik
          Orik 8 October 2013 14: 04
          +1
          laughing The Russian army can not withstand such a load, we have the entire army of 1 million people.
          1. Dober
            Dober 8 October 2013 17: 50
            0
            Quote: Quiet
            I propose to introduce a quota !!! How many of our military are there, so many of them here ....

            Quote: Orik
            The Russian army can not withstand such a load, we have the entire army of 1 million people.

            The 201st base is the largest military unit deployed outside the borders of Russia. It consists of 6 thousand troops (mainly contract soldiers), who form three motorized rifle, artillery and anti-aircraft missile regiments. The wing of the base is equipped with fighters, helicopters and transport aircraft.
            6 soldiers and 000 (approximately) osterbaiters.
            According to the proposed "Quiet" scheme 1: 000. We are not driving the Tajys, but increasing the number of the "base". 6 (six) mulars of servicemen.
            ALL ADULTS OF THE PLANET !!!including women, elderly and disabled, including points themselves.
            Area 142 000 sq. Km. It turns out 63 thousand people per km.
            This will be the Russian "military fist" !!! angry laughing
      2. Airman
        Airman 8 October 2013 09: 52
        +3
        Quote: vadimus
        Well, in our country, the contingent is quite limited, so I would like to limit the invasion of locusts. And then soon, except for the Russian military there will be no one left ......

        1,5-2 million Tajiks in Russia, this is probably according to the FMS, which is many times different from real life. If you remove the Gaster, then we will have unemployment in the region of 0,5-1% and then the Russians will not have to move from place to place in search of work, as DAM suggests.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 October 2013 08: 10
      +8
      Quote: SAG
      Such karma for them means ... to stand in the way of drug trafficking on Russian territory!

      And to control that the goods reach the Russian consumer. Tajiks themselves make good money on the hero
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 8 October 2013 08: 18
        20
        A very interesting precedent-for the base we pay with our jobs, and the criminal situation in our cities ...
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 8 October 2013 14: 05
          +1
          Quote: mirag2
          A very interesting precedent-for the base we pay with our jobs, and the criminal situation in our cities ...

          An interesting situation is emerging, as in communicating vessels. Should Russia close the road to Tajik migrants, then these Tajik citizens will arrange a revolution and robberies there, and where will this Bobonazarova end company run? (After all, Taj. The king is naked.) Well, as a result of this, the flow of drugs and radical Islamists will increase, DO WE NEED US? It is necessary to put things in order with them, and for a long time, BUT there is a big BUT, and this is our businessmen, I repeat, as the lights say, I don’t want to get a certain salary, I’ll recruit Uzbeks and Tajiks who are happy to work for less. So the problem is not in Gaster, but in our businessmen, I personally heard from one such barter, (If the profit is less than 50%, I say I won’t get up from the couch) So, something like that.
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 8 October 2013 17: 01
          +1
          A very interesting precedent-for the base we pay with our jobs, and the criminal situation in our cities ...

          This is not a precedent.
          By mass immigration of the population of the former colonies, all the former colonial countries paid and are paying for the former empire: WB, France, Italy.
          Some truth pay stupidity (aka universal values): Sweden, Germany.
          The latter have quite a headache: there was no empire, but they create a problem with newcomers themselves.
        3. Savva30
          Savva30 9 October 2013 20: 06
          0
          Migration, national issues (disputes) must be submitted to an all-Russian referendum. Those who are guarded by the FSO are hardly familiar with ethnic crime ...
    3. Civil
      Civil 8 October 2013 08: 16
      23 th
      Now begins:
      1. Why do we need so many migrant workers.
      2. Stop feeding Kansas.
      3. The Prussian are again clamped.
      4. Let them learn the language, culture, adopt Orthodoxy, whiten their skin like Michael Jackson for nefig.
      And the similar nationalistic nonsense.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 8 October 2013 09: 07
        +8
        Himself so ..
      2. Proud.
        Proud. 8 October 2013 10: 59
        10
        Quote: Civil
        1. Why do we need so many migrant workers.

        Of the items listed by you, only this phrase is similar to "NO BRIDGE".
      3. Dober
        Dober 8 October 2013 18: 15
        0
        Quote: Civil
        Now begins:

        /quote/
        "Yes, I swayed your house ..., I broke the gate ..., the mosquito let your door open ..., I trampled the garden ... the Caucasus gave your food ..., I put the shawarma on you ..., knitted your mouth persimmon!
        My sabak bit your feet. Look, right now militia pazavu, you will fly out in a flash. Wake up your aul to dip your food "
    4. Teacher
      Teacher 8 October 2013 09: 52
      +7
      In my opinion, they are part of this drug trafficking, and not without pleasure.
      1. gsg955
        gsg955 8 October 2013 12: 51
        -1
        Untermensch Bobonazarova clearly broadcasts from someone else's feed.
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 8 October 2013 17: 05
          0
          Untermensch Bobonazarova clearly broadcasts from someone else's feed.

          About ubermensh showed up laughing
          Either Aryan (then the surname should be German or Scandinavian), or you just want to cling to the true Ubermensh laughing
          In short - one enrolled in the Nazis laughing
    5. bodriy
      bodriy 8 October 2013 16: 52
      +2
      let's tell the truth ... Tajiks are bad and very much !!! and excuse me with Tajikistan could not agree on such conditions, but if our "merchants-princes and unfinished boyars" call them, then we are not talking about that friends, oh, not about ... what is the Tajik to blame ?!
  2. fklj
    fklj 8 October 2013 08: 00
    16
    In general, the Russian base will continue to stay on Tajik territory, let’s say, in exchange for migration exemptions, duty-free oil supplies and assistance in the modernization of the Republic’s Armed Forces.

    In this situation, it would be better if we did not have a base in Tajikistan and there were no Tajiks in the territory of R.F.
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 8 October 2013 08: 28
      10
      and there were no Tajiks in the territory of R.F.

      Alexei ! hi It is better to drive "guests" from the North Caucasus into reservations, where they will dance lezginka along the mountains (and not along the streets of cities) and shoot from samopals at goats and not at people !!!! am
      1. fklj
        fklj 8 October 2013 08: 34
        +2
        You set out seditious thoughts. They are citizens of RF! Attack the holy smile hi But seriously - one swamp (more precisely mountains).
        1. Quiet
          Quiet 8 October 2013 16: 32
          +2
          You set out seditious thoughts. They are citizens of R.F.

          And the Indians are not US citizens ??? lol laughing
    2. Sergh
      Sergh 8 October 2013 08: 45
      10
      Quote: fklj
      it would be better if we did not have a base in Tajikistan and there were no Tajiks in the territory of R.F.

      Then there will be an American base in Tajikistan, rest assured. Even if the Americans don’t go to them (I doubt it), the Tajiks will let anyone else come to them, even from Ethiopia, but they won’t hit finger-to-finger to protect their borders.
      I was in the 80s in Tajikistan, besides nature and lamb meat, I didn’t look anymore, I’m a stone to the local population. The people are envious, greedy and corrupt (with some exceptions). I have never met a Tajik engineer, although they say that they saw somewhere ...
      1. fklj
        fklj 8 October 2013 09: 03
        +2
        Not against our bases, against the so-called migrant workers in unemployed Russia.
        And the enemy bases will be there anyway. The reason you voiced hi
      2. Averias
        Averias 8 October 2013 09: 26
        +5
        Quote: Sergh
        . I have never met a Tajik engineer, although they say that they saw somewhere ...


        I recently had a conversation with a Tajik, the prosecutor turned out to be (the former), well, the cunning beast, and in addition arrogant.
      3. virm
        virm 8 October 2013 10: 00
        12
        So why, the Tajiks did not let our base for money? And they rolled out a bunch of other requirements. Maybe the fact is that for the authorities of the Russian Federation, the import of Asian migrants is the main goal? And bargaining at a military base is a convenient cover.
        1. Dober
          Dober 8 October 2013 18: 28
          0
          Quote: virm
          And they rolled out a bunch of other requirements.

          But more specifically, then ... If we talk about the purely economic part, then in exchange for maintaining its base, Russia will help rearm (?) The Tajik army in the amount of order 200 million dollarat. In addition to this, an agreement was reached on the duty-free delivery of 1 million tons of oil products to Torchikiston for the domestic needs of the republic, which, according to experts, is equivalent to 200 million dollars. In addition, Russia will allocate 5 million dollarin the fight against drug trafficking and will help with the preparation of anti-drug agents. Well, as a cherry on the cake - the "guarantor" writes off 242,5 million debt.
  3. pinecone
    pinecone 8 October 2013 08: 05
    +3
    It turns out that there is a Tajik Elena Bonner. Even outwardly something similar.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 11: 49
      +2
      Quote: pinecone
      It turns out that there is a Tajik Elena Bonner. Even outwardly something similar.

      She’s only for daddy Tajik. And for mum ... You’ll guess. laughing
      1. Dober
        Dober 8 October 2013 12: 07
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Guess yourself.

        Hindu ???
        But actually:
        Graduated jurfak Tajik State University.
        Married. Husband - lawyer and journalist Dzhunaidullo Ibodov. Parvin's daughter lawyer by education, works at the State Institute of Information Technology, an Internet support organization. Son Jovid (David), lawyer, works at the Council of Justice.

        Professional "saboteur". Analogue of Alekseeva and Gerber.
        Kapzdets Tochikiston ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 14: 01
          0
          I knew you were smart drinks
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 8 October 2013 17: 09
          0
          Kapzdets Tochikiston ...

          Kapzdets them because of what you now know about her? laughing (she already spent her whole life there).
          So or:
          1. you will arrange for him
          2. K. will come forward for some reason unrelated to the article laughing laughing laughing
    2. Dober
      Dober 8 October 2013 18: 33
      0
      Quote: pinecone
      Even outwardly something similar.

      And he will do about the same. Those. will "give birth" to a local Gorbachev and promote "restructuringshootout ".
      Thus, the self-liquidation of at least a third of the population of Torchikiston.
      1

      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 19: 14
        +1
        Quote: Dober
        Thus, the self-liquidation of at least a third of the population of Torchikiston.

        This tactic is characteristic of bacteria. Once in the nutrient medium, they begin the process of decomposition. Gangrene, her mother is so.
  4. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 8 October 2013 08: 25
    +1
    I think that we have the right to set up military bases where we ourselves decide and for how long our business is also to be resolved, and migrants for the Tajik government are deflated steam, otherwise there would be a civil war, again they are pulling at the expense of Russia, although we they are not needed
  5. Daler
    Daler 8 October 2013 08: 29
    +5
    Oinichol Bobonazarova generally unknown to anyone. They found out about her only when she exposed her name. And according to the statement that she makes, she is more like an actress than a real presidential candidate. It seems that she was forced to make anti-Russian statements so that Rakhmon would promote himself even better in front of the Russian Federation.
    Unfortunately, I have doubts about our army, and 201 does not bother anyone. And I'm not even talking about the help 201 provides to the local population by purchasing food from them ... in some mountainous places (GBAO), some families even made money like that. I see nothing wrong with 201 bases if the country cannot ensure its security.
    Of course, everyone (Russia and Tajikistan) has their own goals and we don’t know anything about them ..
    1. Alyoha
      Alyoha 8 October 2013 09: 41
      +8
      Tajikistan, call all your brothers, aunts, sisters back to your homeland. Well, by God, you already enrage everyone. If not for the power "our" would have devoured you all.
      1. Daler
        Daler 8 October 2013 10: 22
        +1
        Yeah * wicked life makes them go to work, and as long as there is demand and there is supply, do not forget the main thing about it. None of the Tajiks took Russian high posts (note), they all do the dirty work for pennies, where the Russian will never do this job. Here you are, go out and work as a janitor, or find those who do this. Or go to a construction site to work in high-rise buildings without any insurance.
        All migrant workers do the work that you do not do, and when you start to do their work, then there will be nothing left for them to come to you anymore. Does it make sense in my words?
        1. Alyoha
          Alyoha 8 October 2013 10: 38
          +7
          Why do we need a nation on our territory that is generally not capable of anything ?! Not able to protect herself, not able to create her own state (Tajikistan, well, this is a caricature of the state). Tajiks and Uzbeks are 80% of drug trafficking in Russia, that is, your nation is not even capable of simple human gratitude, bite and poison the hand with which you eat. You know that 78% (this is just a social survey, it seems to me more) Russians hate and despise you, why are you here? You are an independent country. But you are a good Tajik, since you live in your homeland. A good Tajik is that at home or m ...... well, you know.
          1. Daler
            Daler 8 October 2013 12: 05
            0
            Quote: Alyoha
            But you are a good Tajik, since you live in your homeland. A good Tajik is that at home or m ...... well, you know.


            I'm not just good, I'm wonderful. I am grateful to the leadership of the Russian Federation for supporting those in need, and I hope they will receive what they want in return.
            And statements about m .. * are generally unacceptable. Criminally punishable.
            1. ultra
              ultra 8 October 2013 14: 15
              +4
              Quote: Daler
              I am grateful to the leadership of the Russian Federation for their support

              If it was my will, I would hang this "guide" for the "causal place"! am
        2. consul
          consul 8 October 2013 10: 48
          16
          Quote: Daler
          they all do dirty work for pennies, where the Russian will never do this work. Here you are, go out and work as a janitor, or find those who do this. Or go to a construction site to work in high-rise buildings without any insurance.
          All migrant workers do the work that you do not do, and when you start to do their work, then there will be nothing left for them to come to you anymore. Does it make sense in my words?

          Do you seriously think that no one in Russia did this job before your fellow tribesmen? And we had dirt on the streets, and houses were not built, etc.?
          That’s the point, it’s a penny, because it’s more profitable for an employer to hire lawless workers than local ones for a normal pay. You look at the lists of police wanted, Russian names are like white crows. Don’t worry. Raise your beautiful country (no kidding), take care of your problems, otherwise you would drive the Russians out, and now they will come to us. Believe me, the attitude that takes away the work of the local population, and even creates a criminal situation, is sharply negative.
          1. Daler
            Daler 8 October 2013 11: 40
            -4
            I repeat, there is a demand - there is a supply.
        3. Proud.
          Proud. 8 October 2013 11: 10
          +9
          Quote: Daler
          Does it make sense in my words?

          No, there is no meaning. Since you are repeating far-fetched reasons that the FMS "pushes" us, and certain stakeholders.
          Quote: Daler
          None of the Tajiks took Russian high posts (note)

          I bow to you for this.
          Quote: Daler
          they all do the dirty work for pennies

          For pennies no one works.
          Quote: Daler
          Russian will never do this job

          Tryndet is not necessary.
          Quote: Daler
          Here you are, go out and work as a janitor, or find those who do this.

          Again tryndzh-zh. Those who wish are, only unlike you, they require social guarantees, unlike you.
          Quote: Daler
          Or go to a construction site to work in high-rise buildings without any insurance.

          I will not repeat. Look above.
          Quote: Daler
          All migrant workers do the work that you do not

          Lies squared. You repeat.
          1. Daler
            Daler 8 October 2013 11: 43
            +2
            They do the job for pennies .. and this is reality. Not counting the police and other off.persons who profit from them. I told you, find those who want and put on this job. Why wait for the government when you can do it yourself. Go talk to those who hire Tajiks and so on, let them take the Russians. Really. Here you come out today or tomorrow, whenever you want. find a person and put him to work as a janitor, or at a construction site. There are people speaking, so go out and find such people. Then we'll talk.
            1. Proud.
              Proud. 8 October 2013 12: 45
              +3
              Quote: Daler
              Here you,

              So, at YOU, you will talk with your relatives or employers. Do you understand?
              Quote: Daler
              Why wait for the government when you can do it yourself. Go talk to those who hire Tajiks and so on, let them take the Russians. Really. Here you come out today or tomorrow, whenever you want. find a person and put him to work as a janitor, or at a construction site. There are people speaking, so go out and find such people.

              My dear, your text is an interpretation of Our desires, which are not really possible (in this reality), in the simplicity that you draw. I can offer you the following: Here you are, take a train and go to your homeland and free up your workplace .If you are outside my Country, then all the more, do not give me project-related advice and do not write meaningless comments, more like ordinary trollism.
              1. Daler
                Daler 8 October 2013 14: 01
                -2
                I will never go to Russia. Don’t worry about me, I’ve never been to Russia in my life and I will never go, go out and work for the good of your country yourself. It is you who are trolling while sitting here, it is better to go out and act. Create a community that sympathizes with you and dare.
                1. Proud.
                  Proud. 8 October 2013 15: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: Daler
                  Better go out and act.

                  Are you calling for civil disobedience? No? Then we end the conversation.
                  Quote: Daler
                  Are you doing trollism sitting here

                  Written by you (sitting THERE) is more applicable to you.
                  Quote: Daler
                  Create a community that sympathizes with you and dare.

                  Here ... And I didn’t guess! Thank you for sending. Goodbye.
                  1. Daler
                    Daler 8 October 2013 15: 39
                    -1
                    I have proposed a solution to the problem. True, it hurts your eyes, you just need to sit and write smart words and not act. Goodbye, goodbye Good luck to you.
            2. Pushkar
              Pushkar 8 October 2013 17: 50
              +1
              For pennies? Take an interest in the salary of a janitor serving two sites. It’s just that the Tajiks sign the thieving housing and communal services for one amount, and get a quarter of this. They always agree to this, because crooks are needed.
        4. Forest
          Forest 8 October 2013 11: 14
          10
          Make your Tajikistan better remove it, rebuild, and we have managed without you for so many centuries stop
          1. Daler
            Daler 8 October 2013 11: 46
            -9
            Well, Tajiks are one of the ancient nations of the world, we have Avicenna, Al Khorazmi, etc. Our story is certainly rich, and all this time we lived without the Russian Federation. But with the USSR, everything went sideways. Samarkand and Bukhara were taken away from us, etc. So all this is temporary, I hope our situation will be better
            1. IRBIS
              IRBIS 8 October 2013 12: 30
              15
              Quote: Daler
              Well, Tajiks are one of the ancient nations of the world

              Only Ukrainians do not say that.
              Quote: Daler
              we have Avicenna, Al Khorazmi, etc.

              And do not say this to Ukrainians either. You are not in the subject, probably, but all the great people were ukrami.
              Quote: Daler
              Our story is certainly rich, and all this time we lived without the Russian Federation.

              And it was good for us without you.
              Quote: Daler
              But with the USSR, everything went sideways.

              Sideways? They taught me how to read and write, provided electricity, provided water, and medicine. And everything is free of charge, i.e. for nothing, because there was no return from you, and there is no, except for the "specialists" - guest workers.
              Quote: Daler
              So all this is temporary, I hope our situation will be better

              But it’s right! All home, cultivate fields, build factories, raise the economy. Personally, I am for the prosperous republics of Central Asia! You only take yours from us, otherwise you will get them.
              1. Dober
                Dober 8 October 2013 12: 57
                +5
                Quote: IRBIS
                all great people were ukrami.

                Yes, not only "great", but in general EVERYTHING.
                I remember the first names from the school course. Pitekantropenko, Neodirtalchenko, Kromanyonits ... But no, the last of the Lifshits tribe, Horowitz ... but they are also from Abramgutanenko laughing
                There were no Dulboboevs in the textbook ...
              2. Daler
                Daler 8 October 2013 14: 04
                0
                Quote: IRBIS
                Quote: Daler
                Well, Tajiks are one of the ancient nations of the world

                Only Ukrainians do not say that.
                Quote: Daler
                we have Avicenna, Al Khorazmi, etc.

                And do not say this to Ukrainians either. You are not in the subject, probably, but all the great people were ukrami.


                Not the topic, but that's why Ukrainians want to go to the EU and not to you ... it's worth considering ..
                1. IRBIS
                  IRBIS 8 October 2013 14: 18
                  +4
                  Quote: Daler
                  but that's why Ukrainians want to go to the EU and not to you ... it's worth considering ..

                  Freedom - the will ... They are free people, let them go wherever they want. And let them think they should go ...
                2. Quiet
                  Quiet 8 October 2013 16: 48
                  +4
                  Not the topic, but that's why Ukrainians want to go to the EU and not to you

                  And who's stopping you from rushing to the EU and not to us ???
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 8 October 2013 12: 42
              +5
              Quote: Daler
              Well, Tajiks are one of the ancient nations of the world, we have Avicenna, Al Khorazmi, etc. Our story is certainly rich, and all this time we lived without the Russian Federation.

              Hahahaha, a bunch of scientists and powerful factories from ancient times threw goods and discoveries around the world laughing
              Damn, well, this is where this is going to be. request
              1. Daler
                Daler 8 October 2013 14: 09
                -2
                I didn’t understand what was funny.
            3. Forest
              Forest 8 October 2013 14: 17
              +4
              Nobody argues, so you need to remember your homeland and restore it, and not hang around the cities of Russia for days.
        5. Tommygun
          Tommygun 8 October 2013 11: 52
          12
          The fact is that working as a janitor or at a construction site without insurance began to be considered so bydly precisely because of you. It used to be an honor to be a builder. You have dropped salaries in certain professions. That is why people do not go there to work. A salary sufficient to buy sunflower oil, pasta, tomato paste and bread, and to send home amounts that are quite decent by the standards of your countries, is not enough for a person who needs to pay for an apartment, kindergarten or school for a child, etc. We remove you, and the salaries are forced to rise, and people will do this work.
          1. Daler
            Daler 8 October 2013 12: 26
            -1
            Well, let them introduce insurance, what's the problem? Tajiks force employers not to give anyone insurance? I don’t think so. Employers themselves want it this way, when it comes to earnings, patriotism is lost somewhere.
        6. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 8 October 2013 12: 44
          +7
          Quote: Daler
          Yeah * wicked life makes them go to work,

          And why is it so bad for an ancient and smartest people in a world with a rich history?
          The joke is that you lived well, only as part of Russia.
          This is to your lower koment ..... and Samarkand and Bukhara
          1. Daler
            Daler 8 October 2013 14: 06
            -2
            The oldest and most intelligent people are not Tajiks but Jews. Before the USSR, we lived perfectly, after wars and conquests by the Russians, then it became so bad. Do not confuse. The USSR partially returned what we had
        7. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 14: 16
          +4
          Quote: Daler
          Here you are, go out and work as a janitor, or find those who do this. Or go to a construction site to work,

          This topic has already been discussed. If our liberals had put things in order in the housing sector, your wipers would not be in demand. Example- The contents of the housing and communal services receipt include the calculated wage for the janitor. The Tajik janitor is paid a maximum of one third of this salary. The solution to this equation is simple- Plant for a long time someone who receives 2/XNUMX of the estimated salary, and voila, here you have Russian janitors and builders. But first you need to plant the liberals themselves, and this is another equation ...
          1. Daler
            Daler 8 October 2013 14: 22
            +2
            Well, thanks .. But the people above do not understand and think that if the Tajiks disappear, then everything will be in chocolate. We are one of the causes of tension in society, but not the MAIN reason. Do not forget.
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 9 October 2013 08: 02
              +2
              Daler. I don’t know if there are studies on calculating the percentage of Russian GDP growth from migrant workers, if you have any, it is advisable to place them in this and similar topics, without facts and figures, you will still be undesirable elements in the eyes of Russians, and as the labor crisis intensifies, more. You can’t write about the ancient and glorious culture of Tajiks, they still won’t believe that most Russians have an opinion that before they arrived in Central Asia everyone sat on trees and ate apricot laughing
              1. Daler
                Daler 9 October 2013 08: 37
                +1
                I didn’t think about it. Here is a quote:
                According to scientists, migrant labor provides 7-8% of Russia's GDP. As a REGNUM correspondent reports, Vladimir Volokh, a professor at the Institute of Public Administration and Law of the State University of Management, chairman of the Public Council under the Federal Migration Service of the Russian Federation, said at a press conference on the topic: "Migration problems of modern Russia".


                Link: http://demoscope.ru/weekly/2013/0563/rossia01.php#18

                All the same, there is benefit.
                1. Semurg
                  Semurg 9 October 2013 09: 05
                  -1
                  the internet is a great thing if you can handle it. You see, without these 7-8% in Russia there would be a decline in GDP of 5% and not a growth of 2% as predicted. this is the main argument and not the appeal to the mind.
                  1. Mairos
                    Mairos 9 October 2013 15: 12
                    +2
                    it was about percent of GDP, and not about percent of GDP GROWTH - do not play with words. )))
                    If there were no cheap labor, then employers would have to modernize their sphere of activity. Here it is.
                    1. Semurg
                      Semurg 9 October 2013 20: 22
                      +1
                      if there are no these percent of gdp that bring gastric, then there will be no growth of gdp so anyway, gdp will get minus. At the expense of cheap labor, you already decide whether this is good or harm. China and Southeast Asia are turning a cheap slave. Power into their competitive advantage. to upgrade somewhere without conditionally correct, but somewhere not, you need to count and look.
        8. kaktus
          kaktus 8 October 2013 17: 02
          +3
          in the republics of the former USSR, all infrastructure, social programs, industry ... even theaters and film studios remained. work yes work! and don’t need a janitor in a foreign country, somehow in the USSR they did without migrants, and there were enough janitors ... and, by the way, how much garbage (literally!) from the same migrants? Anyway, who keeps them here? what
      2. Airman
        Airman 8 October 2013 18: 01
        +2
        Quote: Alyoha
        Tajikistan, call all your brothers, aunts, sisters back to your homeland. Well, by God, you already enrage everyone. If not for the power "our" would have devoured you all.

        We are not cannibals, and so far we have enough food, but those who do not want to leave voluntarily, will have to be taken out voluntarily-forcibly, in zinc coffins. 1055 has already been taken away.
  6. kafa
    kafa 8 October 2013 08: 31
    11
    In general, invite migrants back home - we do not mind ... wink
  7. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 8 October 2013 08: 39
    11
    Oinikhol Bobonazarova-This lady (by profession, "human rights activist")

    This word became abusive for me - as I recall SERGEY KOVALEV, I can’t say anything about them besides the mat
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 8 October 2013 11: 32
      +3
      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      This word has become abusive to me

      In the photo that you have kindly provided, two of the casket are the same from the face (thoughts, sayings and deeds).
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 14: 21
        +3
        Quote: Be proud.
        two of the casket are the same from the face (thoughts, sayings and deeds).

        Fine shot in the face from close range, and will be similar not only in sayings wassat
      2. Forest
        Forest 8 October 2013 15: 47
        +2
        And nationality.
  8. Tommygun
    Tommygun 8 October 2013 09: 21
    +9
    That is, we provide them with protection (through the availability of our contingent and local training), and for this we let Taji earn our money. Yes, the victory of Russian diplomacy! And .... sit down and eat a fish!
  9. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 8 October 2013 09: 32
    10
    Damn, we pay them, for the base, train their military, and also let this horde go hungry, arrogant, radical to their earnings! Edrit ... agreed.
  10. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 8 October 2013 09: 32
    +4
    Quote: fklj
    In general, the Russian base will continue to stay on Tajik territory, let’s say, in exchange for migration exemptions, duty-free oil supplies and assistance in the modernization of the Republic’s Armed Forces.

    In this situation, it would be better if we did not have a base in Tajikistan and there were no Tajiks in the territory of R.F.

    The base is of course needed, but not at such a high price! Base is base, but law is law! It would be enough for mine that we train their military and modernize their army at the expense of our outdated equipment, and yet they need to make a tough offer that they could not refuse! As for the migration legislation, to make it such that only a few gastric people can go through its framework.
  11. Averias
    Averias 8 October 2013 09: 33
    +3
    Yes, the point here is not even that the sowers of democracy will come and build a base. Afghanistan (or rather, bandits and "preachers") will rush to Tajikistan with all the ensuing consequences. And since the people in Tajikistan are not heavily burdened with education, it is not difficult to draw a conclusion. The Tajiks will not be able to resist the militants, the militants will simply buy them. Well, what for is this neighborhood to us? Although the problem with migrants is acute, it is a fact.
  12. SvetoRus
    SvetoRus 8 October 2013 09: 36
    11
    Last year, 1055 corpses were brought from Russia to Tajikistan. But the real number of deaths and death tolls is higher. Some are buried there.
    Taking into account the statements of Medvedev and Ulyukaev about impending unemployment in Russia and, as a consequence of it, an increase in social tension, I assume that the number of corpses delivered to Tajikistan, as well as those buried here, can increase dramatically ...
    1. Alyoha
      Alyoha 8 October 2013 09: 38
      +7
      What we all look forward to.
  13. morpogr
    morpogr 8 October 2013 09: 37
    +6
    If you want to work here for three years, let them go to Kolyma and other hard-to-reach places where low-skilled workers are needed. They help to develop territories and build roads and infrastructure for the local population.
  14. Alyoha
    Alyoha 8 October 2013 09: 48
    +3
    “This lady (a“ human rights activist ”by profession) declares that the stay of the Russian 201st base in the Republic of Tatarstan until 2042 is too long - this is the time that people were not asked if they wanted to have a foreign military base on their territory at all” - so The Russian people were also not asked if they wanted to walk the same land and live with Tajiks and Uzbeks in the same state. Tajiks and Uzbeks account for 80% of drug traffic to Russia. That is, they not only live on the "neck" of the Russians, but they also poison and bite the hand that feeds them.
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 October 2013 09: 50
    0
    It’s just that, apparently, every parliament is trying to ratify something important on a certain date. Russian parliamentarians tried to coincide with the anniversary of the inauguration on May 7, but the Tajik parliament wanted to coincide with their "red" calendar day - for the presidential election, or, more precisely in Tajikistan - for the election of President Rakhmon ...


    This is understandable, "your shirt is closer to your body." But the base is needed. A kind of filter.
  16. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 8 October 2013 10: 11
    +7
    And who, except Russia, needs hundreds of thousands of illiterate Tajik lumpen proletarians, their country doesn’t need them, their poor and poor neighbors? So there are plenty of their own. China? Yes, in the coffin he saw this illiterate and stupid crowd, there and their jumped out from the bridle, the native CCP is enough, Russia, due to the extinction and alcoholization of its own population, can in principle accept this mass for low-skilled jobs, we have all the managers and lawyers here, of course, if Russia were a smart government, it would be possible to shake its own population, fortunately, there are enough cattle hanging around the streets, and first of all, "proud kids" from the Caucasus, who know nothing and do not represent anything of themselves, but with a bunch of ambition, so let them show their "coolness" in the face, giving coal to the homeland at Stakhanov's pace, and so, alas, everything will be the same, they will "allow" us to leave the military base, but in return, be ready to accept Tajik labor, as it were, to put it mildly, in your cities. As for the corpses, Tajik corpses areTajikistan's concern, the more boorish they behave, the more the number of corpses will increase, as a consolation to each coffin, pin a portrait of Chubais, and below the phrase: "They did not fit into the market."
    1. rereture
      rereture 8 October 2013 10: 28
      +6
      I would not talk about the "alcoholization of the population", there are not so many people who drink soundly. But the fact that the lower classes are to be shaken, you are right, but in small settlements, villages there is absolutely no work, no work at all, not at all.
    2. Alyoha
      Alyoha 8 October 2013 10: 47
      +5
      All the Chichi for all the Russians killed in the mines, free of charge, otherwise they have already spent their salaries until 2200 years on "Heart of Chechnya" and "Monument to the murderers of Russian women and children" - recently opened.
  17. IRBIS
    IRBIS 8 October 2013 10: 14
    14
    Why. Horseradish. I need it. This base. At such a price. Americans, Jews, Tungus ... I have not seen, I do not know. And these "guests" every day, until they vomit. Barrier to drug trafficking? Don't be ridiculous, blocking all mountain paths is simply not realistic. But to equip a normal border where the terrain allows - yes, the border with Kazakhstan. KSP, Thorn, minefields, so that there were no breakthroughs, like from Spain to France.
    Everyone, for some reason, cares about the Americans at our borders with a hypothetical threat, and the specific Asians who are already occupying our cities and villages are not at all terrible. Diasporas, human rights activists, refugees ... In FIG !!! All home, with all your relatives, children, nodes and packages !!! Home, to the homeland, to raise the economy of their independent and sovereign countries!
    1. Alyoha
      Alyoha 8 October 2013 10: 40
      +4
      A good Tajik is who is at home (at home) or .....
  18. kirgudu
    kirgudu 8 October 2013 10: 19
    +8
    Base in Tajikistan in exchange for undermining the demographic and social situation in the country.

    Well a liberal government acts.
  19. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 8 October 2013 10: 40
    +3
    we pay for everything, because ultimately we need it.

    these pasties are all in one place. in all of them, statehood was then formed and entrenched thanks to the Soviet government and the Soviet Union. and so it would be the passing villages of one vilayat of another megacheburek, or of another.
  20. South
    South 8 October 2013 10: 44
    10
    But is it time to hold a referendum in the country on the issue of the migration policy of the authorities? (experts will correct the wording)?
    After all, all this has been kept in awe ...
  21. Forest
    Forest 8 October 2013 10: 50
    +1
    "This lady (by profession" human rights activist ")" - judging by the photo and by nationality too.
  22. Forest
    Forest 8 October 2013 11: 05
    +2
    The migration policy should be thought out, there should be no need to bring in a "rabble" who then roam the streets. There should be clear requirements for migrants: knowledge of the Russian language and mastery of a working profession confirmed by documents.
  23. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 8 October 2013 11: 48
    +1
    House Representatives of the Supreme Assembly of the Republic of Tajikistan misconduct ward Under the number(how many of them) osto 3,14 sections ........ "higher" .... ha ha. wassat
  24. Wii
    Wii 8 October 2013 12: 27
    +5
    All these Naryshkins, Romodans and Putin must live where they are more loved. That is, in various camps and villages. If all these "rulers" contribute to the occupation of their country, the question naturally arises ~ what country is their own?
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  26. patriot2
    patriot2 8 October 2013 14: 04
    +3
    It may be out of place, but I recall the withdrawal of the Soviet military group from Afghanistan. The fight against the Taliban was continued by a military coalition led by the United States. Everyone knows how this process is going from daily news. Tajikistan, of course, cannot be compared with Afghanistan, but drug trafficking to Europe goes from Afghanistan through Russia to Europe. Therefore, if Russia leaves Tajikistan, the consequences will be very serious both for Russia and for the whole of Europe. Because the Americans will come there to pacify the local population and we will have an Afghan situation not only at our borders. But the rules for crossing borders and staying in Russia residents of the CIS should be revised and tightened.
  27. patriot2
    patriot2 8 October 2013 14: 23
    +6
    Yes, and I almost forgot, all migrants arriving in Russia for a period of more than 1 month must go through filtration camps (from 14 to 30 days) to resolve the issue of the expediency of their arrival in Russia, learning the basics of the Russian language, testing for drug addiction, lack of criminal records and infectious (chronic) diseases, and due to those entering it (for 1500-2000 $)! laughing
    I think the flow will decrease by an order of magnitude.
  28. Strashila
    Strashila 8 October 2013 15: 22
    +2
    And you think ... but it is necessary ... so much humiliation of Russia ... we fly into several tens of billions of dollars ... no less ... the growth of drug trafficking and other crime.
  29. Field
    Field 8 October 2013 16: 04
    +2
    Migrants - this is a business (very very big money bribes, cuts, etc.)
    Starting with the same legalized "fools" who drag their compatriots here and make money on them, ending with big business (construction, trade, housing and communal services, etc.), I am already silent about bribes.
    While it will be profitable, they will go here (will be imported) by thousands and thousands.
    The authorities do not ask us and will not.
    We don’t have levers of legal influence on the authorities (elections without a choice do not count), all the more we don’t have levers of influence on the economic elite, not on the federal, nor on the regional (trade unions, as you understand again, are wrong).
    Everything will be decided without us, it’s enough to simply observe and not resist.
  30. godun
    godun 8 October 2013 16: 17
    +3
    In Central Asia, the seller calls the exorbitant price to the rich buyer, the buyer’s task is to reduce the price to acceptable, otherwise the seller will not respect, however, the mentality. Mr. Naryshkin was given the task of preserving the base, but was not told at what cost, although the situation for Russia is a win-win ... But the situation with migrants does not depend on them, they behave as they are allowed to.
  31. Quiet
    Quiet 8 October 2013 16: 51
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Daler
    Well, Tajiks are one of the ancient nations of the world, we have Avicenna, Al Khorazmi, etc. Our story is certainly rich, and all this time we lived without the Russian Federation.

    Hahahaha, a bunch of scientists and powerful factories from ancient times threw goods and discoveries around the world laughing
    Damn, well, this is where this is going to be. request



    And you lived at the expense of the great silk road. lol
  32. kaktus
    kaktus 8 October 2013 17: 11
    +1
    PATRIOT2
    Yes, and I almost forgot, all migrants arriving in Russia for a period of more than 1 month must go through filtration camps (from 14 to 30 days) to resolve the issue of the expediency of their arrival in Russia, learning the basics of the Russian language, testing for drug addiction, lack of criminal records and infectious (chronic) diseases, and due to those entering it (for 1500-2000 $)!
    I think the flow will decrease by an order of magnitude.
    + 100!
  33. Gennady1973
    Gennady1973 8 October 2013 17: 52
    +2
    Personally, my opinion ... we do not need a base there. Spend this money on equipping the border with the Tajiks. From there we were driven "vzasha" in the 90s, you know. Now everything is in our "Guests". Who are we protecting from whom? Who are we giving weapons? Personally, I do not believe in this "friendship" they betrayed once (when the Slavic population was evicted), they will betray more ...
  34. GUSAR
    GUSAR 8 October 2013 17: 53
    +5
    If it’s so bad in Russia, why are they rolling here ??? !!! They collected rags and drove home, it’s warm there, there is Mom, there’s still horseradish that knows, just don’t come here !!!
    1. vlad0
      vlad0 8 October 2013 23: 32
      +2
      And if 3 million return there overnight, then what will the emomalishka do? Where should he run? His power is held while the Gaster in Russia are staying, at least legally, at least somehow!
      1. nic
        nic 9 October 2013 20: 03
        0
        Well, hell with them, not our headache. Civil war - losses, a decrease in the remnants of the standard of living, medicine, education - a decrease in population. The main thing is to keep the barrier. It is one thing to keep the enemy on the border, to carry out "peacekeeping" actions, it is another thing to catch babays inside the country and watch demonstrations of power-rugs in the center of Moscow-St.
  35. Airman
    Airman 8 October 2013 17: 54
    +2
    Quote: bodriy
    ... what is Tajik to blame for ?!

    What did the Tajiks do with the Russians, the Ukrainians in Tajikistan when they received "freedom", do you not know? They killed men, raped and killed women and minors, at best they were kicked out of the house. And now these "creatures" stick to us to earn money. Our powers that be in control of the Russian nation, they have a very short memory, because it was not their relatives or relatives who were killed, but simply RUSSIANS.
    1. vlad0
      vlad0 8 October 2013 23: 47
      +1
      Anyone in doubt, go to the Russian cemetery in Dushanbe. There, the entire attitude of Tajiks to Russian is displayed. No stands with assurances of eternal friendship are needed.
      1. Daler
        Daler 9 October 2013 07: 45
        0
        Quote: vlad0
        Anyone in doubt, go to the Russian cemetery in Dushanbe. There, the entire attitude of Tajiks to Russian is displayed. No stands with assurances of eternal friendship are needed.


        And where did you see in Dushanbe that the state would do something for Tajik cemeteries ?? All who die themselves relatives and attend the funeral, all expenses for relatives. So it is with mosques, the church and synagogues. All people themselves help, not the state. No need to blame the Tajiks, most Tajiks are Muslims and they go to mosques, here mosques help, and no one is involved in vandalism. Give me facts where there have been cases of vandalism in Dushanbe at a church or Christian cemetery. There are none, and I have not heard.
    2. Daler
      Daler 9 October 2013 07: 39
      0
      Quote: Povshnik
      Quote: bodriy
      ... what is Tajik to blame for ?!

      What did the Tajiks do with the Russians, the Ukrainians in Tajikistan when they received "freedom", do you not know? They killed men, raped and killed women and minors, at best they were kicked out of the house. And now these "creatures" stick to us to earn money. Our powers that be in control of the Russian nation, they have a very short memory, because it was not their relatives or relatives who were killed, but simply RUSSIANS.


      And they not only killed Russians. You probably now remembered the events of the civil war? They killed everyone in a row, not only Russians. And the Tajiks died most of all, do not forget.
  36. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 8 October 2013 17: 59
    +1
    I will not comment on anything, and so much water has already been poured. I’ll just say the whole problem of Gaster because of the ghetto spontaneously forming in Russia. from there and crime, illness, drugs.
  37. Altona
    Altona 8 October 2013 18: 56
    +4
    I agree on the Tajiks, if you train and instruct them on all issues will be personally professionally owning a broom, Prime Minister Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev ...
  38. 31231
    31231 8 October 2013 21: 06
    +2
    Representatives of these political forces include Oinichol Bobonazarova, who goes to the presidential election from the so-called reformist forces.

    I looked at the photo. Hakamada got old, got old.
  39. turan_up
    turan_up 8 October 2013 22: 09
    0
    Kazakhstan, Tajikistan
    Cuba, Syria, Vietnam,
    Abkhazia, Moldova, Armenia ..

    Know adults and children -
    All kinds of bases are needed,
    All sorts of bases are important!
  40. darksoul
    darksoul 8 October 2013 23: 05
    +1
    This lady (by profession a “human rights activist”) declares that she is concerned about the migration of Tajiks to Russia - Migration policy needs to be put in order, because the quote:

    I would vote for it ..... our unprincipled mumbles cannot solve the problem, maybe there a respected order will put in place .... forbids them to go to us
  41. vlad0
    vlad0 8 October 2013 23: 18
    +3
    Complete bullshit !!! Our base there, besides satisfying our incomprehensible ambitions, is not needed! I spent 2000 years there in the 4s, and I understand this topic. While there were border guards, the 201st covered them, after 2005 - our presence was pulling dough from the budget and creating a roof for an endless stream of cheap Gaster. For this money, we could plug the Russian-Kazakh or Kazakh-Uzbek border 10 times. But no!!! Loot is pushed into the place where drugs are rushing from Afgan. Our base is not needed there! The conditions of her stay are already very harsh for Russia. 3 million gaster in the Russian Federation versus 7 thousand fighters in the Republic of Tatarstan without the right to defend themselves is an unequal topic. The only excuse is the "window" complex
    In Nurek, until the analogy is built in the Russian Federation. In the meantime, 7 thousand of our fighters against 50-80 thousand active Taliban fighters in Afghanistan and more than 20 thousand of them sympathizing in Tajikistan - only weak consolation. 201st is more hostage than defense!
    1. nic
      nic 9 October 2013 20: 05
      0
      Minus by chance, I'm sorry.
  42. Max79
    Max79 8 October 2013 23: 28
    +4
    For the time being, I was neutral to the Central Asian Jamshuts, until there were a huge number of them on the market. Apart from them, there were none of the sellers at all ... And the eastern Mouzon was pouring, as if you were somewhere in Bukhara, etc. Dirt and stink were all around. ... There are no words, emotions alone are not the most positive. At least join the ranks of social-nationalists ...
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 9 October 2013 00: 03
      +4
      Quote: Max79
      until there are a lot of them on the market.

      Near the door of my entrance, there is a neat metal shield for free advertisements. On it I often see advertisements for the performance of various kinds of work. In most of them, the postscript: "Not migrant workers", "Local, friends, relatives, not drinking", “Local, family, not drunks.” Yes, that's right! Seriously.
  43. Alibekulu
    Alibekulu 9 October 2013 18: 06
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    Ask from your bureaucrats, not from poor Tajiks.