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Financial and banking sanctions: the sword of Damocles over Russia

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For many decades, the West has been waging an economic war against Russia / USSR. A serious signal for the Russian authorities was the recent letter from four US senators addressed to the head of the US Treasury Department, Jacob Lew. The senators called on the US administration to impose sanctions on the largest Russian banks, which, according to them, help finance the activities of the Syrian authorities. In essence, this letter is a direct call for confrontation at the state level, the official declaration by the United States of an economic war against the Russian Federation.


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Trade, economic, financial and banking sanctions by the West against Russia have become the norm since the end of 1917. This was a reaction to the decision of the Bolsheviks to cancel the external debts of the tsarist government and to nationalize enterprises owned by foreign capital. At that time, foreign currency accounts of the State Bank and the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Empire were frozen in Western banks. Russian gold was also frozen, which was placed in banks in the UK and some other countries. European banks were prohibited from making settlements on export-import operations of Soviet Russia. Therefore, the Bolsheviks widely used dummy firms of bordering countries (especially Baltic), as well as some banks, formally foreign (Swedish, Estonian, American), but controlled by people who worked in the interests of Moscow. For calculations in foreign trade, the Soviet government made extensive use of gold, which reduced the effectiveness of the economic blockade of the West. In 1929, the former Entente countries tried to strangle Soviet Russia by imposing a ban on Western banks and gold companies accepting it. This sanction was called the "golden blockade". The effectiveness of trade, credit and "gold" blockades was low. This is evidenced by the fact that the USSR managed to build 1929 enterprises from 8600 until the beginning of World War II, most of which were based on imported equipment.

In the postwar years, the West, under the auspices of Washington, also organized various blockades of the USSR more than once. For example, in 1980-1982. At that time, a very large “gas-pipe” deal was carried out, which provided for the supply by Western (mainly Western European companies) pipes and compressors for the construction of an export gas pipeline in the USSR to the western borders of the Soviet Union. Under the pretext that Soviet troops invaded Afghanistan, Washington tried to impose bans on these supplies, attempts were made to block settlements on them through Western banks. Despite all this, the gas pipeline project was successfully implemented.

After 1991, the West several times came out with threats of imposing sanctions against the Russian Federation, although the case did not reach practice. In August, 1998, when Russia was not able to pay debts to foreign creditors, the question of the possible arrest of foreign accounts of the Bank of Russia was discussed in the West. In August, at the EU summit in Brussels, 2008 faced the issue of imposing trade-economic and financial-banking sanctions against Russia due to the fact that Russian troops thwarted Georgia’s attack on South Ossetia.

We can also recall the “spy scandal”, when Moscow refused to surrender Edward Snowden to Washington. Then, talks about the need for sanctions against the Russian Federation began at the White House and in the US Congress. The already prepared “package of sanctions” was mentioned, the content of which was not disclosed.

History Russian subsidiary of the Iranian bank

It cannot be said that everything is limited only to threats against Russian banks and their clients. There were specific actions. It is primarily about the so-called soft sanctions. They are carried out under the banner of the fight against the financing of terrorism, the laundering of "dirty" money, organized international crime, corruption, etc. It was under this pretext that the US authorities in the middle of the past decade closed down several hundred American correspondent accounts of Russian banks that were “suspected” of illegal operations. Russian banks, of course, managed to find a way out (opening a correspondent account with banks in other countries), but “soft sanctions” made their lives more difficult, because the dollar settlement rate has decreased, while the costs have increased (commissions for intermediary "services").

There were also attempts of “raids” by the US on Russian banks, allegedly in connection with violations by the latter of sanctions against individual countries. The most striking example is an organization called “World Business Bank”, which is a Russian credit institution. This is the “daughter” of the largest state-owned bank of Iran Bank Melli. It was opened in 2002 year under the name Bank Melli Iran CJSC. Since 2010, it has been called World Business Bank. In 2012, by the size of its assets, the World entered the first hundred of Russian banks. Provides a letter of credit service to the Russian-Iranian trade in wheat and commodities. The American authorities have repeatedly recommended that Russian banks refrain from interacting with both Bank Melli and its Russian subsidiary. The Russian Foreign Ministry had to clarify to journalists about the problems with Mir: “The bank’s activities do not contradict either the domestic legislation of Russia or its international obligations under the relevant UN Security Council resolutions on sanctions against Iran.” Bank Melli is mentioned in the UN Security Council resolution of 2008. It says about the possible involvement of the bank in financing the nuclear program, but did not impose any sanctions on the bank and its branches. Washington does not prohibit trade with Iran raw materials that can not be used for military and energy purposes. Nevertheless, according to Russian media reports, the “daughter” of the Iranian bank lost 17,6 billion rubles in sanctions. (News, 16.08.13).

It is probably in connection with the Mir Bank that Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov 7 of September 2012 of the year after talks with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters: “Unilateral American sanctions against Syria and Iran are increasingly acquiring an extraterritorial nature, affecting directly the interests of Russian business, in particular banks. "

The magnitude of the threat

The letter of US senators was commented on by many Russian experts. Perhaps the only one who rated the senators' letter as a serious warning was the former deputy chairman of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation, Yuri Boldyrev. He drew attention to the fact that it was proposed to arrange sanctions against not just Russian commercial banks, but against state banks. The freezing of foreign assets of state credit institutions can be a step, followed by a much more serious step - the freezing or arresting of international reserves of the Bank of Russia.

On 1 in January 2013, Russia's foreign assets, according to the Bank of Russia, were equal to 1.354,2 billion dollars. Most of these assets were created through the export of capital by the banking sector of the Russian economy. On 1 in January 2013, foreign assets of the banking sector excluding the Central Bank amounted to 246,9 billion. And foreign assets of the Central Bank (actually Russia's international reserves) were equal to 537,6 billion. Thus, the total assets of the banking sector, including the Central Bank, amounted to 784,5 billion dollars. The share of the banking sector in the foreign assets of the Russian Federation is 58% (Table 1). This layout shows that the “Achilles heel” of the Russian economy is the banking sector, which has moved too far beyond the economic space of Russia. That is why from the West in case of any complication of relations, we can expect sanctions in the form of freezing (or arresting) the assets of the banking system. In the event of a sharp aggravation of relations, the West may not be limited to foreign assets of Russian credit organizations, but also encroach on the international reserves of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Why not? The precedent was created in 2011, when Washington and Brussels decided to freeze the reserves of the Central Bank of Libya, as well as the foreign assets of the sovereign fund of Libya. In total then about 150 billion dollars were frozen.

Table. 1.

Foreign assets of the Russian Federation (on 01.01.2013)

Financial and banking sanctions: the sword of Damocles over Russia


As for the foreign assets of credit institutions of the Russian Federation, the most vulnerable part of them are current accounts and deposits opened in foreign banks - they account for $ 139 billion, or more than half of all foreign assets of Russian banks. The second in terms of liquidity and ease of “freezing” can be considered such a position as “loans and borrowings”. The result is exactly 200 billion dollars, or almost ¾ of all foreign assets of Russian banks (tab. 2).

Table 2.

Foreign assets of the banking sector of the Russian Federation without securities (on 01.01.2013)




Most of the most liquid foreign assets of Russian banks (deposits, loans, correspondent accounts, cash currency) are accounted for not in the United States, as many believe, but in the UK. London in terms of sanctions always goes together with Washington. If Washington decides to freeze foreign assets of Russian banks, it can be expected that about 40% of all foreign assets will be frozen immediately (26,4% - United Kingdom, 13,6% - United States). As can be seen from the following table, 80% of foreign assets of Russian banks are concentrated in eight countries (Great Britain, USA, Germany, Cyprus, Holland, Switzerland, France, Italy). In this scenario, bank sanctions against Russia, if they are introduced, can be very effective.

Table. 3.

Distribution of foreign assets of the banking sector of the Russian Federation by countries (01.01.2013) *


* The most liquid part of foreign assets, consisting of loans, deposits, correspondent accounts, cash foreign currency in the cash offices of credit institutions

What to do?

After the letter of four American senators in the air there was a smell of large-scale economic war. In such conditions, urgent measures to protect the Russian economy from the threat of financial and banking sanctions from the West are necessary. A lot of useful experience in this regard can be drawn from the history of the Russian Empire. So, literally one month before the First World War, the State Bank and the Ministry of Finance of Russia withdrew currency from German and Austrian banks and transferred them either to Russia or to the banks of the Entente countries.

Similarly, it is necessary to do with the international reserves of the Russian Federation, most of which are placed in the debt securities of the US government and other Western countries, as well as in the accounts of Western banks. Part of foreign exchange reserves can and should be directed to cover such expenses as payments on government debt (all debt obligations should be repaid, if possible, ahead of schedule). Part of international reserves (especially the part that falls on the Reserve Fund and the National Wealth Fund) should be used to purchase assets of the real economy in countries friendly to Russia, and to use part to buy machinery and equipment and implement strategic investment projects. Here it is possible and necessary to use the invaluable experience of the first Soviet five-year plans, when, under the blockade of the West, it was possible to purchase machinery and equipment for the industrialization of the country. And, of course, whenever possible, convert the currency part of international reserves into gold, which should be equated to strategic resources. As is known, the "yellow metal" has "immunity" against the most severe sanctions.

Another important area is the creation of systems of international payments and settlements that are protected from sanctions, alternative to the current systems, which are based on the use of correspondent accounts in American and European banks ... This suggests a project to create such protected systems within the framework of BRICS and in the framework of Eurasian integration projects. This option implies the refusal of settlements in the current reserve currencies - the euro and the dollar.

If necessary, develop economic relations with Western countries or countries under Western control, it is advisable to more widely use the so-called currency saving schemes. This barter, compensation transactions, clearing calculations. By the way, during the times of the Soviet Union such schemes were actively used, there is a rich experience that is deliberately ignored. One should also recall the experience of the functioning of sovzagrank banks, which formally were not Soviet, but foreign, but acted in the interests of the USSR (Moscow People’s Bank in London, Yurobank in Paris and others). They helped bypass the sanctions and blockades that were periodically organized by the West.

Deoffshorization of the Russian economy is also an important condition for increasing its immunity with respect to Western sanctions. This is a very broad topic that requires separate discussion. We only note that a substantial part of the foreign assets of Russian banks are located in offshore jurisdictions - in the form of shares and shares of offshore companies, on deposit and other accounts of offshore banks. Western intelligence services have access to information about these assets, so hope that they will be protected from Western sanctions should not be.
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  1. rugor
    rugor 8 October 2013 15: 15
    39
    Focusing on domestic consumption is the only way for the future of Russia.
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 8 October 2013 15: 24
      10
      Unfortunately you won’t do it fast.
      1. fklj
        fklj 8 October 2013 15: 30
        11
        With such a low level of production and salaries, for sure.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 8 October 2013 20: 11
          12
          Quote: fklj
          With such a low level of production and salaries, for sure.

          If tomorrow all offshore zones were closed, the budget of our country would be twice as large, and it would be possible to double spending on healthcare, education, science, culture, and defense. It's hard to believe, but almost everything that was built by our fathers and grandfathers in previous years and went to new owners for less than 1% of the book value, today does not belong to Russia. However, what has been created in recent years does not belong to Russia either. According to expert estimates, 95% of large Russian property is under foreign jurisdiction. Specialists of the profile department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs have calculated that more than 5 trillion rubles were withdrawn from Russia through offshore accounts. rubles over the past year and a half. This is about 10% of GDP. According to the head of the Economic Security Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Denis Sugrobov, the bulk of the corruption funds deposited abroad is money received in the form of so-called kickbacks in the field of state orders, and funds stolen directly from the budgets of various levels.
        2. aleksandroff
          aleksandroff 8 October 2013 22: 08
          -2
          We must work, and not talk about the low level of production. Nobody wants to work, but talk about salaries. I do not think that you just raised the salary of your employees. Therefore, do not tryndet about salaries. And this is such a cycle, some do not want to work, but they ask for big money, others do not want to just pay. I have experience in such communication and it is not necessary to say that we have very awesome workers in Russia. I understand that there are sectors, such as doctors and teachers, that you need to pay attention to them, and many others are only engaged in chatter and Putin is to blame for everything.
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 9 October 2013 02: 53
            +5
            Work! It’s good if there is somewhere. And then there’s nowhere! And we have in Moscow! I’m silent about what is happening in the regions ... Although of course there are developed regions, but there are only a few of them. It’s not because of a good life that people to Moscow and Peter.
      2. Siberian German
        Siberian German 8 October 2013 18: 30
        +7
        I DO NOT AGREE - IF YOU WILL HAVE A MILITARY DECISION FOR 10-15 YEARS POSSIBLE - BUT FOR THIS TODAY, ALL MEN SHOULD TREAT WITH YOUR WIVES AND TAKE IT NECESSARY TO TURN TO CHARGE AFTER 9 MONTHS. YES BORDER SHOULD BE COVERED FOR IMPORT
        1. 225chay
          225chay 9 October 2013 06: 53
          0
          Quote: Siberian German
          MEN MUST HAVE A TREAT WITH ITS WOMAN AND TAKE HOW IT NEEDS TO BE BORN CONSUMERS WELL THROUGH 9 MONTHS AND THEN WRAP THE SLEEVE AND FOR WORK. YES BORDER SHOULD BE COVERED FOR IMPORT

          Very sensible and efficient offer. You ++ Deutsche Siberian !!
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 20: 13
        +4
        Quote: 787nkx
        Unfortunately you won’t do it fast.

        You can’t do this without the nationalization of the Central Bank. And even at the very first steps towards the return of funds to our economy, our sworn friends of the USA and England will throw some shit. A sharp drop in oil prices as an option. We have already gone through this. But since the author is entitled to 100 percent, you need to bite the bit and do your own without looking back at anyone.
      4. vezunchik
        vezunchik 8 October 2013 23: 55
        0
        it’s simpler not one of the current rulers to do this ...
    2. experienced
      experienced 8 October 2013 15: 29
      18
      This was to be expected, when a strong person (state) collected (o) a lot of debts from other weak people (states) and realizes that there is no way to return them to creditors, then the only way out is to prevent creditors from uniting and accusing creditors themselves of "dishonest play" , although the rules of the game are known who came up with winked
      It is high time to accept, as a position, that Russian money for oil and gas, spent on the purchase of American securities, disappeared and to build further economic policy of Russia, taking this factor into account. In the 90s of the minuses and credits "came out" and now we will not bend from "0" hi
      The coolest "hit" the Chinese
      China, the largest lender in the United States, is starting to get nervous about the protracted confrontation between Barack Obama and the Republicans. If the ceiling of the public debt is not raised, this country will suffer the most. In this regard, Beijing considered itself entitled to remind the debtor of responsibility.
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 8 October 2013 18: 19
        +3
        It’s no sense ... Lenders themselves will not rally and will not give others, because it’s also a no brainer that the more assets are presented for payment, the more their (assets) price will fall. This is only if you set a goal - to hammer an economic fist in the United States - then yes, it makes sense. And the more powerful the fist (union of creditors), the greater the amount in dollars in their hands - the stronger this economic blow will be. But the consequences should not be forgotten! And they will be, and most likely not economic. More precisely - not only they ....
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 8 October 2013 21: 42
        +1
        Quote: seasoned
        China, the largest lender in the United States, is starting to get nervous about the protracted confrontation between Barack Obama and the Republicans. If the ceiling of the public debt is not raised, this country will suffer the most. In this regard, Beijing considered itself entitled to remind the debtor of responsibility.

        So in the USA they began to forget that they owe us!
        I think if all US government bonds are dropped onto the market, the market will collapse. Of course, we will sink both China and a couple of hundred countries ......... but this will not reduce the opportunity.
        In the USA they do not take into account the interdependence of the lender and the borrower!
      3. aksakal
        aksakal 9 October 2013 00: 41
        +2
        Quote: seasoned
        The coolest "hit" the Chinese

        I think that both Russia and China knew beforehand that the money sent to these "promissory notes" was already lost money. After all, not stupid people work - they understood that this is a payment for using the created American-Anglo-Saxon-Semitic elite and the financial system and financial infrastructure successfully imposed on the whole world. And this is an expensive thing. This is not only a service currency, for which you need to maintain a mint and printing house with GOKHRANES and others, it is a banking sector with a created payment system, and a foreign exchange trading exchange to quickly determine currency rates ... In short, "here is a ready-made system, you use it for this use you lend us a certain amount.Well, as if in debt, so that your people are not indignant - it takes a long time to explain to them, the people, that you cannot create such a financial infrastructure that we provide on your knees in a year, and even if If you start to create, then, to be honest, we will not just interfere, but even go to great lengths. ”Well, something like that.
        So, Experienced, my IMHO - both the Chinese and the Kazakhs (we have about 100 billion there) and the Russians WAS knowing what kind of money it is and where they are going and why.
        Sorry for the Amers - they wouldn’t be greyhounds, they would still use their system and wouldn’t blow it. And so - yes, already, the creation of alternative financial infrastructures has already begun, a couple of decades - and you want to use the RMB system, you want (pah-pah-pah) - ruble ... And what did these fools still need?
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 October 2013 15: 50
      17
      The imposition of economic sanctions against Russia now, will lead to a retaliatory strike on them ourselves. Europe has weakened so much that it will not play the United States. Yes, and the United States itself has long been not what it was under Reagan. The only thing that America will never repay debts to anyone and never. All this fuss, only a delay from the financial collapse, the sooner it comes, the better.
      1. rolik
        rolik 8 October 2013 18: 33
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        that America will never repay debts to anyone and never

        I think Russia will be happy to pick up debts with real estate of mattress))))
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 8 October 2013 17: 53
      +6
      Quote: rugor
      Focusing on domestic consumption is the only way for the future of Russia.


      Nevertheless, it would be better to create an independent payment system. So it is not the only, and not the most correct way out.
    5. rolik
      rolik 8 October 2013 18: 32
      +2
      Quote: rugor
      Focus on domestic consumption

      Export is also not an unimportant income item. Here, imports of especially high-tech products and food must be reduced to the bare minimum. All this should be done with us.
      1. alone
        alone 8 October 2013 19: 18
        +4
        as long as Europe depends on gas supplies from Russia, they will not do anything against the state.
        but about bank accounts, you should think about it. There is a lot of money on the accounts. Who do you think will suffer from being blocked? I’ll think there’s no need to guess. Of course, the oligarchs. And in order not to lose money, oligarchs can sell their souls to the devil.
  2. Stiletto
    Stiletto 8 October 2013 15: 17
    12
    As if America in a financial war with Russia did not tear off the navel. More precisely, no, not so - already tore. We look forward to its default. Reached - Bali Husseinovich already have nothing to move to Bali laughing
    1. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 8 October 2013 15: 41
      +9
      Quote: Stiletto
      How would America in a financial war with Russia, the navel would not tear

      so we are connected by one umbilical cord
      The funds of the Reserve Fund of the Russian Federation are placed in the currency accounts of the Bank of Russia and invested in bonds of the USA, Great Britain and some European countries
      since January 2010 The Ministry of Finance does not publish information on the receipt and use of oil and gas revenues of the federal budget.
      and that our ruble is not pegged to the dollar? Or is it tied to our gold?
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 8 October 2013 16: 54
        +1
        Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
        and that our ruble is not pegged to the dollar? Or is it tied to our gold?

        The ruble is pegged to the dollar because it is profitable.

        We will tie the ruble to gold - we will not be able to manipulate the exchange rate and, as a result, we will lose in the competition of energy prices.
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 8 October 2013 17: 48
          13
          Quote: Yarosvet
          Bind the ruble to gold - we can not manipulate the course

          If we tie the ruble to gold, then tomorrow at dinner in Russia we will buy all rubles! And the day after tomorrow they will raise the troy ounce rate by a couple of bucks and put it to us for exchange.

          Today a troy ounce is worth $ 1322
          Troy ounce 31,1035 gr
          1 gr = 1360 rub

          In short, we will be left without gold in two days.

          In 2004, Putin tried to pursue a policy of nationalizing the Central Bank and avoiding the Fed, but there it was, lobbying for the buck won. Now there is a second attempt, but more competent, where the squeals about the sanctions of the American senators are squealing, it is completely nonsense to push through the new rejection law.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 8 October 2013 18: 21
            -2
            Quote: Sergh
            If we tie the ruble to gold, then tomorrow at dinner in Russia we will buy all rubles! And the day after tomorrow they will raise the troy ounce rate by a couple of bucks and to us they will put it on exchange
            With the current free convertibility of the ruble - it is quite possible.

            In 2004, Putin tried to pursue a policy of nationalizing the Central Bank
            But this is nonsense, spread by Chubais' yap Zhenya Fedorov (by the way, he said that Putin tried to do this in 2000, in 2004, according to Fedorov, Putin "canceled" the PSA law laughing )

            Firstly, it is impossible to nationalize a federal government body.
            Second, try to name the number of the "nationalization" bill allegedly introduced by Putin.

            Now there is a second attempt
            Now they are trying to take direct control of the printing press (money has run out, sequestration has happened), and if it succeeds, in the conditions of a freely convertible ruble and the absence in the Constitution of an article on the maximum allowable budget deficit, the country will get inflation as in Zimbabwe.
            1. Sergh
              Sergh 8 October 2013 22: 42
              +2
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Fedorov (by the way, he said that Putin tried to do this in 2000

              Well read at your leisure;
              http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/160309

              Quote: Yarosvet
              Firstly, it is impossible to nationalize a federal government body.

              Young man, it feels like you're composing fables as you go:
              Legal status and functions of the Bank of Russia
              The key element of the legal status of the Bank of Russia is the principle of independence, which is manifested primarily in the fact that the Bank of Russia acts as a special public-law institution with the exclusive right to issue money and organize money circulation. It is not an organ of state power, at the same time, its powers by their legal nature relate to the functions of state power, since their implementation involves the use of measures of state coercion. The functions and powers stipulated by the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)" are exercised by the Bank of Russia independently of federal government bodies, government bodies of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local government bodies. The independence of the status of the Bank of Russia is reflected in Article 75 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, as well as in Articles 1 and 2 of the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)".

              The Bank of Russia is a legal entity. The authorized capital and other property of the Bank of Russia are federal property, while the Bank of Russia is endowed with property and financial independence ...

              Oh well, that's enough for today.
              PS. Stop, I just didn’t understand, and why the heck did the bill number give up to you? Incidentally, this is not the first time I've met this question.
              Quote: Yarosvet
              But this is bullshit, carried by Chubais yap, Zhenya Fedorov

              Oh, but the peasant Stepan Demura in the original.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 9 October 2013 12: 40
                0
                Quote: Sergh
                Well read at your leisure
                An article from the category "one woman said".

                Once again: try to find the number of the allegedly introduced bill - let's see the text of the amendments.
                Verbally declaring that someone allegedly tried to nationalize something and confirming this statement with documents is not the same thing.

                I know only 1 bill on changing the status of the Central Bank introduced in 2000, but the deputies from the Communist Party submitted it, and even it did not say a word about taking away the Central Bank’s independence in the implementation of its main function.

                Young man...
                The functions and powers stipulated by the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)" regardless of federal government
                Etc. FROM OTHERS federal authorities ... - read the law, not the wiki.

                The independence of the status of the Bank of Russia is reflected in Article 75 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, as well as in Articles 1 and 2 of the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)
                Constitution: "... the stability of the ruble is the main FUNCTIONwhich he carries out independently ... ", that is, the FUNCTION is carried out independently.

                Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation: FUNCTIONS AND AUTHORITY... The Bank of Russia independently FROM OTHERS federal authorities ...

                But the leadership of the Central Bank, which performs these functions (independently, of course) is actually appointed and controlled by the president.

                Oh, but the peasant Stepan Demura in the original.
                Demura in his conclusions is 3 years behind me.
          2. Serg 122
            Serg 122 8 October 2013 18: 22
            +2
            Today a troy ounce is worth $ 1322
            That is, what is meant - dollars - also gold! Just a little paper ...
            1. luka095
              luka095 8 October 2013 23: 21
              +4
              Dollars are no longer gold. Not supported by the dollar in gold since the late 60s. The last one to snatch his own from the Yankees is De Gaulle. After that, he ceased to be the president of France ...
          3. Botanologist
            Botanologist 8 October 2013 21: 26
            0
            Quote: Sergh
            In short, we will be left without gold in two days.


            Absolutely correct remark! Today, scurrying around with a gold reserve is a sign of not a very big mind. US debts are only federated 17 000 000 000 000 dollars. at the price of 1322 dollars per ounce, you will have to look for 400 thousand tons of gold. Our gold reserve will simply be erased in such calculations.
            1. luka095
              luka095 8 October 2013 23: 26
              +2
              Do not clarify who and why will look for 400 thousand tons of gold? And what does the Russian gold reserve have to do with it? By the way, in recent years, China and Russia have been and are active players in the gold market. Do not sell, specify, but buy ...
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 9 October 2013 00: 26
                +2
                Quote: luka095
                Do not clarify who and why will look for 400 thousand tons of gold? And what does the Russian gold reserve have to do with it?


                It was about that we take our money from US banks lol . We’ll come and understand. And they will just give us crying .

                Only one moment - US banks do not have money. Simply no. They have stocks, derivatives, other paper, into which the whole world transferred money for decades. Do you need paper? Then it’s better to buy some pulp and paper mill.
                And strained with the dollar. US debt I wrote. At today's prices, this is 400 000 tons of gold. Will you borrow in dollars? So tomorrow the country will go bankrupt, and the dollar will be replaced with something else. Only one way out is gold. It needs a lot. And America doesn’t have it either.
                Therefore, untie the ruble from the dollar today, in the hope of our gold reserves - a rare stupidity. Untied, tomorrow the Chinese will buy all our rubles (at least for bucks, at least for the euro, at least for that) and will ask to provide them with gold. So what are you going to do???
                1. luka095
                  luka095 9 October 2013 20: 31
                  0
                  There is a US government debt, the size of which you have indicated. And there are US banks. These are different structures. US banks are not liable for state debt. They are private. It is not clear what debts you are going to take. US Government Debts? So Russia has nothing to do with them and cannot claim them. The banks have, you are right, various assets, including in the form of gold.
                  If the Russian Ministry of Finance bought assets in the USA, including bonds of the US government, this does not mean that someone will give them in the form of gold. Now almost no currency in the world is tied to gold. Does the Treasury have US government bonds?
                  So sell them and buy to the rescue, perhaps, the pulp and paper mill, and a lot of other things that are needed. In material form - equipment, factories, know-how, etc. etc ... Then the money will not be wasted.
                  And the Russian ruble is not tied to gold. Therefore, there will simply be no exchange of rubles for gold at someone’s request.
          4. T80UM1
            T80UM1 9 October 2013 12: 40
            0
            2004 year? Putin against the Fed ??? I don’t remember something. Can you remind yourself that it was interesting?
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 20: 19
          +4
          Quote: Yarosvet
          The ruble is pegged to the dollar because it is profitable.

          I even know to whom. laughing
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 8 October 2013 21: 00
            -5
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            I even know to whom
            Do not know smile

            You can get rid of the dollar at any time (no one bothers - it’s just that in this case the ruble will no longer be freely convertible), you can trade, for example, with China, for the yuan or the ruble (without any problems - as we agree).
            But as long as the dollar is the universally recognized equivalent of value, while any country in the world needs dollars (not yuan or rubles), the rejection of the dollar will lead to a loss at the exchange rate: if you sell the goods for the yuan directly, you will be forced to buy dollars, in order to buy goods from a country with which you do not trade directly, and not every country will agree to trade even for its own currency - not that for rubles.

            What this will lead to under current conditions - when 80% of goods sold in Russia are produced abroad - one can only guess.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 8 October 2013 21: 34
              +2
              Quote: Yarosvet
              You can get rid of the dollar at any time


              Well, in more detail ... How do you plan to get rid of?

              Quote: Yarosvet
              You can trade, for example, with China, for yuan or rubles


              How will you trade with China for rubles if the rubles are untied from the dollar and the Chinese yuan is pegged? It’s the same as selling strawberries for potatoes in the market. At any moment, the Chinese comrades will decide that you have bent the price and the yuan will be lowered. And where will you be with your rubles?


              Quote: Yarosvet
              What this will lead to under current conditions - when 80% of goods sold in Russia are produced abroad - one can only guess.


              What is direct to guess? It is necessary to pack rubles for salaries in boxes from under televisions and refrigerators. In one hand - no more than three boxes
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 9 October 2013 12: 59
                0
                Quote: Botanologist
                Well, in more detail ... How do you plan to get rid of?
                I do not plan - you confuse me with the local patriots.

                How will you trade with China for rubles if the rubles are untied from the dollar and the Chinese yuan is pegged? It’s the same as selling strawberries for potatoes in the market. At any moment, the Chinese comrades will decide that you have bent the price and the yuan will be lowered. And where will you be with your rubles?
                I will be at home or at work.

                Once again: there is not a single administrative factor obliging the ruble to be pegged to the dollar, the only factor is economic gain.

                What is direct to guess? It is necessary to pack rubles for salaries in boxes from under televisions and refrigerators. In one hand - no more than three boxes
                Glad you guessed it - many were not given.
          2. 225chay
            225chay 9 October 2013 07: 14
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            I even know to whom.


            Hmm ... Yarosvet probably)))
    2. predator.3
      predator.3 8 October 2013 15: 44
      +9
      Quote: Stiletto
      . Reached - Bali Husseinovich already have nothing to move to Bali

      It’s not Barak’s business, he’s not the main one, others rule the ball, and they prefer to act from the shadows.
      the question itself begs: Who owns the 1000 largest banks in the world?
  3. bodriy
    bodriy 8 October 2013 15: 18
    +7
    But you can’t argue ... one comrade from the site uploaded a video with the participation of Katasonov, handsome, just handsome, and he doesn’t sit in a rag, but is trying to tell people what kind of government we have !!! You can’t explain to Putin why the Central Bank works on FRs ...
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 8 October 2013 16: 49
      -5
      Quote: bodriy
      Central Bank works for the Fed

      The Central Bank does not work for the Fed, but for Putin and the group behind him.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 20: 38
        +3
        Quote: Yarosvet
        The Central Bank does not work for the Fed, but for Putin and the group behind him.

        Listen, Putin is not an angel with wings, I know. But why is he so frantically trying to create structures that duplicate the Central Bank in everything except printing money? The conclusion is one-money is not enough.
        “Charter of the Central Bank, Article 2. The authorized capital and other property of the Bank of Russia are federal property. In accordance with the objectives and in the manner established by this Federal Law, the Bank of Russia exercises the authority to own, use, and dispose of the property of the Bank of Russia, including the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Bank of Russia. The seizure and encumbrance of the said property without the consent of the Bank of Russia is not allowed, unless otherwise provided by federal law. The state is not liable for the obligations of the Bank of Russia, and the Bank of Russia is not liable for the obligations of the state, if they have not assumed such obligations or unless otherwise provided by federal laws. The Bank of Russia carries out its expenses from its own income ”. And this is how-“Article 22. The Bank of Russia shall not be entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation to finance the federal budget deficit, or to buy government securities at their initial placement, except when it is provided for by the federal law on the federal budget.” That is, they cannot lend money to their own state. Not a single western country has this item.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 8 October 2013 21: 19
          -2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          But why is he so frantically trying to create structures that duplicate the Central Bank in everything except printing money? Conclusion one-not enough money
          Not enough - sequestration (s).
          But at the expense of duplicating structures can be more detailed - what exactly does he create?

          That is, they cannot lend money to their own state
          Exactly the same way - otherwise, Power (in order to stay in power) will organize a budget deficit in both 100 and 200 percent of GDP for a short period of time, and at the same time it will clear out gold reserves.

          Not a single western country has this item.
          There is something similar - either an article of the Constitution on the prohibition to exceed a certain level of public debt, or the separation of controlling functions as in a mattress (there, to increase the threshold of a public debt, consensus is needed between the Senate and the president, though there is a loophole), or like ours.
          In any case, there are some barriers.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 9 October 2013 07: 27
            0
            Quote: Yarosvet
            But at the expense of duplicating structures can be more detailed - what exactly does he create?

            Vneshekonrmbank and VTB.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 9 October 2013 11: 30
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Vneshekonrmbank and VTB

              Duplicate structures grown from Vneshtorgbank of the USSR. Goals - support of foreign economic activity and integration (mainly through VTB).

              However, it is of interest that it looks like it was through the Vneshtorgbank in the 80s that the so-called "party gold" was withdrawn.
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 8 October 2013 21: 35
        +2
        Quote: Yarosvet
        The Central Bank does not work for the Fed, but for Putin and the group behind him.


        Do you have any facts or just support a conversation?
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 9 October 2013 11: 35
          0
          Quote: Botanologist
          Do you have any facts or just support a conversation?

          Whoever dines with the girl dances her.

          Who makes the presentation, approves, appoints, and then, through the banking council, controls the leadership of the Central Bank?
  4. andrei332809
    andrei332809 8 October 2013 15: 20
    13
    nothing to mess with these props. keep finances in your country, and the west will not go anywhere. Europe already asked the bear 200 lard, he did not.
    it turns out that now the main task is to return the money "home" in spite of the cries of various "economists"
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 8 October 2013 16: 24
      +3
      Quote: andrei332809
      nothing to mess with these props. keep finances in your country


      Oh, I wanted to answer my critics about the "one umbilical cord" with which we are connected with America, but I see, Comrade Marshal has already substantiated everything I wanted to say good
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 8 October 2013 16: 57
      +3
      Quote: andrei332809
      it turns out that now the main task is to return the money "home"

      And it’s better not in the form of money, but in the form of technology, or, worse, goods.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 8 October 2013 17: 23
        +5
        Quote: Yarosvet
        And it’s better not in the form of money, but in the form of technology, or, worse, goods

        yeah, the gold of these bankrupt is dumb. if lands ...
    3. Mature naturalist
      Mature naturalist 8 October 2013 22: 21
      +5
      Quote: andrei332809
      keep finances in your country

      And how do you like it (it was recently in the news):
      According to the deputy. In 2013, the Ministry of Finance Nesterenko additional oil and gas revenues in the amount of 900 billion rubles will NOT be allocated to the Reserve Fund.
      Started to keep finances in your country?
  5. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 8 October 2013 15: 24
    11
    It's like that. For a long time already the anti-liberals are ringing the bells.
    BUT!
    Who will carry out all this if the liberals have surrendered everything to the "partners"? There the Germans hinted at the fate of their gold reserves stored in the United States, so they were sent openly ...
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 8 October 2013 15: 31
      +7
      Quote: Peaceful military
      the Germans hinted at the fate of their gold reserves stored in the United States, so they were openly sent ...

      "Citizens, keep your money in a savings bank."
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 8 October 2013 15: 33
        +5
        "Citizens, keep your money in a savings bank."

        "if you have them, of course."
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 8 October 2013 15: 38
          +2
          Quote: Peaceful military
          "if you have them, of course"

          fellow hi
  6. avt
    avt 8 October 2013 15: 32
    13
    Quote: Peaceful military
    The Germans wondered about the fate of their gold reserves stored in the United States, so they were openly sent ...

    Naturally! Since when is a defeated, and in this case also an occupied country, some conditions that a winner sets? It is not for nothing that the Americans organized a medal for victory in the Cold War. So this is a very serious warning from senators.
    1. a52333
      a52333 8 October 2013 16: 45
      +5
      Interesting things! These are the moments they simply give themselves control in the head.
      The Russian Federation will not (litle will be to a minimum) keep money abroad
      The second - recently the businessman was. when the property of the son of the minister of Moscow transport was arrested. + Law banning the holding of property and assets for officials abroad. Cyprus. The thing is that assets will be withdrawn and foreign real estate will be sold.
      1. avt
        avt 8 October 2013 17: 09
        +3
        Quote: a52333
        Interesting things! These are the moments they simply give themselves control in the head.
        The Russian Federation will not (litle will be to a minimum) keep money abroad

        And here you are mistaken. After the Pavlovian reform of the time of Gorbachev when the party elite decided to join the ranks of the general people and tied the ruble to the dollar. Such feints of Russia were overwhelming. The USSR could afford it even earlier.
    2. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 8 October 2013 17: 06
      12
      Russia places funds in the USA at 2% per annum. The United States, in turn, gives this money to its banks at 3%. Russian banks lend to US banks at 7%. The Russian population receives loans from Russian banks at 30%.

      VERY INTERESTING ARITHMETICS! Who gets MARGIN?
  7. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 8 October 2013 15: 39
    12
    I’m always wondering how you can their keep money in someone else's pocket?
    After all, the Americans will come up with the "guilt" of any country at any moment, and they cried money ...
    There have also been attempts by US "raids" on Russian banks allegedly due to violations of recent sanctions against individual countries.
    1. hrych
      hrych 8 October 2013 16: 11
      +8
      This is done for mutual settlements of exports and imports, in bags they do not drag greens back and forth, everything is done in the form of numbers with a bunch of zeros on the monitors, and the goods go. The Russian Federation holds as much as it needs for normal trade and no more, the PRC is another matter, which, having accumulated savings, decided to earn extra money on staff securities, but now does not know how to return it. There is also Japan, but here the conversation is separate, it is a loot pumped into the US economy - a kind of reparation for the defeat in the war.
    2. varov14
      varov14 8 October 2013 17: 09
      +4
      They keep their money at home, i.e. in the West. Now only 2 square meters of land is free for every Russian, although even then for the money, the rest is privately owned. And an intelligent person keeps money at the place of residence, somehow.
  8. regdan
    regdan 8 October 2013 16: 00
    +9
    Valentin Katasonov is certainly a competent person, but somehow fighting the strongest country in the world, and this is Russia, the navel of the Americans will not just unleash, but break. They themselves have a dumb dumb, seizure of accounts and other nonsense that the crazy four senators proposed, only spur on the outflow of capital from the West. Now it will be dangerous for everyone in the world to keep their money in Western banks; all the money will flow to Southeast Asia. Although this process has been going on for a long time, they prefer to remain silent about this in false, corrupt media.
  9. pahom54
    pahom54 8 October 2013 16: 17
    +9
    I quote: ... "The same should be done with the international reserves of the Russian Federation, most of which are placed in debt securities of the US and other Western countries, as well as in the accounts of Western banks. Part of the foreign exchange reserves can and should be directed to cover such expenses as payments on the public debt (if possible, all debt obligations should be repaid ahead of schedule.) Part of international reserves (especially the part that falls on the Reserve Fund and the National Wealth Fund) is directed to the acquisition of assets of the real sector of the economy in countries friendly to Russia, and part of it can be used for the purchase of machinery and equipment and the implementation of strategically important investment projects.Here you can and should use the invaluable experience of the first Soviet five-year plans, when, under the blockade of the West, it was possible to purchase machinery and equipment for the industrialization of the country. And, of course, if possible, convert gold reserves, which should be equated to strategic resources. As you know, the "yellow metal" has "immunity" against the toughest sanctions .... "
    Well, who's stopping to do this ??? Here is a practical answer to the threat. Earlier it seemed strange to me that the Central Bank keeps such huge funds in the assets of an environment that is completely unfriendly to Russia. Earlier, I don’t remember for what reason, I said that in modern conditions Russia would not hurt to close itself from “friends” with an iron curtain and work ONLY FOR YOURSELF, dear. Open borders since 1991 have brought nothing but harm and colorful candy wrappers. The Tsar's gold was sold, the party-USSR gold was gone, there is still not enough for Russia to be shod with shoes now ...
  10. Xroft
    Xroft 8 October 2013 16: 25
    +8
    Withdrawing Russian money from offshore in the current situation is equivalent to updating troops. Why do we need new tanks when all the money and, accordingly, the elites and political interests of the country are defended in favor of the west? We need our own INDEPENDENT economy, for a country of our scale this is a completely feasible task, how else to drive our leadership into the head .........
    1. hrych
      hrych 8 October 2013 16: 42
      +7
      There is world trade, Russia is an integral part of it, like the former USSR and China and others. Due to the fact that Russia is an integral part of the global economy, it was able to make a breakthrough, thanks to trade in mineral resources, grain and high technologies (not shitty iPhones, and in particular multibillion-dollar contracts in the nuclear industry, aerospace, weapons, etc.) all in the defense sphere, which now undoubtedly takes place. Of course, you can boil in your own juice, like imperial China, but then it all ends with the Opium Wars.
    2. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 9 October 2013 09: 13
      +1
      Are there many of ours in our manual? Obviously, as we see ourselves, financial policy is not directed in our favor, in fact and the result.
  11. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 8 October 2013 16: 54
    +3
    All the money urgently home! The USA has taken away gold from Germany, Germany from Cyprus - money, from Libya money has been taken. Solid jungle!
  12. patriot2
    patriot2 8 October 2013 17: 14
    +1
    Good advice in the article what to do in Russia. But will Americans give Russia the opportunity to put it into practice? There is something to work on for both the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance.
    1. alexander 2
      alexander 2 8 October 2013 23: 42
      +2
      Amerikosy will certainly try to prevent this. But we must bend our line and, most importantly, drive Amer’s and all other agents of influence from all posts. But it’s better to plant them for a long time, so as not to be bad.
  13. Altona
    Altona 8 October 2013 17: 14
    +3
    I never understood the collectors of candy wrappers ... I must probably suffer some kind of special kleptomania ...
  14. patriot2
    patriot2 8 October 2013 17: 15
    +3
    Quote: pahom54
    Well, who's stopping to do this ??? Here is a practical answer to the threat. Earlier it seemed strange to me that the Central Bank keeps such huge funds in the assets of an environment that is completely unfriendly to Russia. Earlier, I don’t remember for what reason, I said that in modern conditions Russia would not hurt to close itself from “friends” with an iron curtain and work ONLY FOR YOURSELF, dear. Open borders since 1991 have brought nothing but harm and colorful candy wrappers. The Tsar's gold was sold, the party-USSR gold was gone, there is still not enough for Russia to be shod with shoes now ...

    I agree +
  15. Indifferent
    Indifferent 8 October 2013 18: 09
    +4
    Nobody will do anything! Talk and calm down. Because in our government either amateurs or interested people who will sing to the tune of others. I no longer believe anyone and understand that if a threat has arisen then they will not react to it in time. So many times it happened so that I have no doubt that this time will be different.
  16. AlexA
    AlexA 8 October 2013 18: 29
    +4
    Everything is correctly written in the article and in the comments. Only WHO will do this? The leadership of the country also knows all this all. And they don’t do it because they are so profitable. Want very much. Therefore, it is hardly necessary to hope for anything under the current establishment.
  17. Bezarius
    Bezarius 8 October 2013 18: 37
    +2
    We need to withdraw all these funds and invest in our economy, that’s all.
  18. pahom54
    pahom54 8 October 2013 18: 46
    +4
    Quote: hrych
    There is world trade, Russia is an integral part of it, like the former USSR and China and others. Due to the fact that Russia is an integral part of the global economy, it was able to make a breakthrough, thanks to trade in mineral resources, grain and high technologies (not shitty iPhones, and in particular multibillion-dollar contracts in the nuclear industry, aerospace, weapons, etc.) all in the defense sphere, which now undoubtedly takes place. Of course, you can boil in your own juice, like imperial China, but then it all ends with the Opium Wars.

    And in Soviet times, with the Iron Curtain, even under Stalin, not to mention later times, the USSR didn’t trade, or what ??? I mean foreign, international trade ... And then we sat on the oil and gas needle, but thanks to the Iron Curtain, a lot of bad, gayropic things did not enter the country. I will not go far, in this forum we often talk about the patriotic education of the younger generation. So, compare the old, Soviet cartoons, bringing up only positive qualities in children, and geyropic cartoons-horror-krakazyabriki ... And before, with the Iron Curtain, we had both technology and science - the first to fly into space, etc. . And in stores, sausage smelled like sausage, and they bought fish and didn’t eat the Norwegian-Japanese-Baltic ... And the herds walked, and now - a rolling ball ... So taking your finances to your home, Russia ONLY SECURES ITS RESOURCES AND RESOURCES, and since they are now, being in foreign assets, not only do they work for a foreign economy, so we can still lose them !!!
  19. igorek45
    igorek45 8 October 2013 18: 51
    +3
    Yes, perhaps the author’s forecast may well come true .. I just found out in the TV news that there was a scandal with a Russian diplomat in the Netherlands. there, a Russian diplomat was beaten and detained and taken to a police station .. After all, after such a doubt that the West will not fail to arrange any intrigues to Russia ..
    1. alone
      alone 8 October 2013 19: 22
      +3
      what there will be intrigues, various provocations, sticks under the wheels! you think the West will sit quietly and watch Russia want to get on its feet. If necessary, they will arrange a kirdyk to the world economy.
    2. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 9 October 2013 09: 22
      +1
      This is not a public reaction to the Syrian events and to the increase in the authority and power of Russia. (They have already rushed to bury us) "Show" Russia "its place." First time or what? “The dog is barking, but the caravan is moving,” I think our Foreign Ministry will not let it go on the brakes.
  20. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 8 October 2013 19: 16
    +5
    Here Bismarck said well about this:
    “Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it’s worth playing with the Russians honestly or not playing at all ”
    And on my own behalf, I would like to add that Russia invested in Anglo-Saxon securities (stabilization and other funds) we should already forget about them (delay .. or ..) But the fact that Russia will return them sooner or later (in one way or another) price) I'm sure of that (judging by our long-suffering and heroic history) So there’s no need to cheer up men!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 20: 48
      +1
      They would have listened to him.
  21. alekseyal
    alekseyal 8 October 2013 19: 27
    +5
    Speech by Katasonov at the Moscow Economic Forum.
    1. michajlo
      michajlo 9 October 2013 00: 43
      +2
      alekseyal SU Yesterday, 19:27 _131008 / WTO

      Good evening, dear Alexey!

      Thank you for the video with Kasatonov at the IEF. Briefly, clearly and without "bluntness" the economist named exactly what type of "people's government" is meeting in Moscow ...

      And what is sad is that everywhere in the post-USSR, with the exception of Minsk, there are exactly the same "Occupation Administrations" of the Western financial authorities (and in their native Ukraine in Kiev, even worse traitors than in Moscow) ...

      And it’s not in vain Kasatonov, he says, then we are at a distance of 1 meter before the precipice!
  22. Double major
    Double major 8 October 2013 20: 07
    +5
    Return money to your homeland. For starters, from the United States, announcing that after official Washington’s statements, we cannot consider their banks reliable. Let them then deal with their indignant bankers ... And science will be in other countries.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 8 October 2013 21: 39
      +1
      Quote: Twice Major
      Return money to your homeland. For starters, from the United States, announcing that after official Washington’s statements, we cannot consider their banks reliable.


      And what will you do if you are delicately hinted that there is no money? After all, all reserves in stocks, do not forget. And not just in stocks, but in derivatives. Do you need derivatives? - Yes, for God's sake, load in cars and carry to Russia.

      It would be so simple request
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 9 October 2013 07: 00
        0
        Quote: Botanologist
        And not just in stocks, but in derivatives. Do you need derivatives? - Yes, for God's sake, load in cars and carry to Russia.

        Wait, wait! This is the third time you are referring to derivatives, all the more I don’t understand why they should be loaded onto wagons? You first understand that there are derivatives!
        In a nutshell. Derivative, by the way, is not the last evil of imperialism, moreover, you can still check the benefits of a derivative transaction and, in case, resell on the spot.

        A derivative is a financial contract between two or more parties that is based on the future value of an underlying asset.
        An agreement (contract) under which the parties obtain the right or undertake to perform certain actions with respect to the underlying asset. Usually, it is possible to buy, sell, provide, receive some goods or securities. In contrast to the direct purchase / sale agreement, the derivative is formal and standardized, initially provides for the possibility for at least one of the parties to freely sell this contract, that is, it is one of the options for securities. The price of a derivative and the nature of its change are usually closely related to the price of the underlying asset, but do not necessarily coincide.

        At its core, a derivative is an agreement between two parties under which they assume an obligation or acquire the right to transfer a specific asset or amount of money on time or before it occurs at an agreed price.

        Well, it’s easier to explain with a couple of examples:

        Example 1
        Let's say in early September you decided to purchase a new car. After the brand is selected, in the showroom of the local dealer you set the exact characteristics of the car: color, engine power, steering wheel trim, etc., and most importantly - determine the price. The dealer says that if you place an order today and make a deposit, the car will be delivered in three months. What will happen to the prices in three months, whether a 10 percent discount will be offered or, on the contrary, your model will go up in price, does not matter anymore: the price of the machine upon delivery is fixed by agreement between you and the dealer. A forward contract was concluded - you have acquired the right to buy a car in three months and have committed to make this purchase.

        Example 2
        Imagine now that you went around the showrooms and found that your dream car was offered for £ 20, but you need to buy it today. You do not have such an amount available, and it will take at least a week to arrange a loan. Of course, you can offer the dealer a deposit and conclude a weekly forward contract, but you have other options.

        This time you offer the dealer 100 pounds for simply holding this car for you and not changing the price for it. At the end of the week, these 100 pounds will go to him, regardless of whether you buy a car or not. The offer is seductive and the dealer accepts it. So, an option contract is concluded - in this case it is called a call option. You get the right to buy a car in a week without obligation to do so.

        If in a week you find another dealer offering an identical model for £ 19500, then you simply won’t exercise your option. Now the total cost of the car will be £ 19500 + £ 100 = £ 19600, which is less than the initial offer.

        This is short, there are several more options, but the essence of the matter does not change. So, having checked and weighed, I would have agreed to derivatives in a hopeless situation, knowing that there is someone to remove the skin from!
  23. Vladomir
    Vladomir 8 October 2013 20: 21
    +5
    Russia needs to do everything based solely on its interests - to slowly, confidently and prudently transfer the financial game in its favor. And we have no experience!
  24. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 8 October 2013 20: 59
    +6
    well, there is no silver lining. and it’s time for the state to get rid of crap. and our oligators are increasingly afraid of the blessed west. Let them ride home. otherwise it’s possible to nationalize.
  25. Ide
    Ide 8 October 2013 21: 06
    +2
    Everything is not so simple, because we can also analyze in response, the property of those countries who will not act so beautifully. True and keep your money abroad is not reasonable! Yes, and not money is needed, but better technology and what is material.
  26. Papania
    Papania 9 October 2013 03: 52
    +1
    Yes, our rulers will never go to sudden movements. Moreover, it seems that when placing money in the west, someone warmed up their sweaty hands well ...
    Their principle of life is "after us, even a flood"
  27. Kolya
    Kolya 9 October 2013 05: 24
    +2
    Quote: 787nkx
    Unfortunately you won’t do it fast.

    you’ll do it, readers of this site only buy what is produced in the TS and friendly countries from this moment on - this is the first step
  28. Koronik
    Koronik 9 October 2013 07: 25
    0
    I do not think that outsiders work in the government, and that they are not aware of possible problems. Perhaps spare sites have already been created for such cases, if not, then such a government has no place in our country and it is necessary to drive it with a filthy broom. And the people of Russia will not forgive them for such gaps.
  29. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 October 2013 10: 08
    0
    Very sternly and rightly, everyone is indignant about the statement of four crazy US senators about financial sanctions against Russia, but for some reason everyone is silent about the main thing: remember who actually wrote and imposed the current Constitution on us !? That's where the dog is buried! And now the main thing is to abolish the anti-people so-called Yeltsin constitution and adopt a new one based on the protection of the rights and interests of Russia and its citizens, and not build "Manilov" plans for the destruction of the United States. (God willing, they themselves will be covered with a "copper basin") And more I ask everyone to analyze again all the statements of V.V.P. over the past year and you will find a lot of interesting things (well, at least the APEC summit in Bali), and the last G-8 meeting will also clarify a lot.
  30. Ross
    Ross 9 October 2013 11: 42
    0
    Quote: Vadivak
    According to the head of the Economic Security Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Denis Sugrobov, the bulk of the corruption funds deposited abroad is money received in the form of so-called kickbacks in the field of state orders, and funds stolen directly from the budgets of various levels.


    By closing the leak abroad, most of the kickbacks will be cut off.