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15 anniversary of the formation of the special forces detachment of internal troops "Edelweiss"

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15 anniversary of the formation of the special forces detachment of internal troops "Edelweiss"On October 5, 15 celebrated the anniversary of the formation of a special-purpose squad of the North-Caucasian Regional Command of the Interior Troops of the Ministry of the Interior of Russia “Edelweiss” (Mineralnye Vody).


This is one of the most militant and well-deserved parts of the internal troops. The detachment was formed as a result of the merger of special forces groups located in the south of Russia - in Grateful, Vladikavkaz, Zelenokumsk, Neftekumsk and Nalchik.

The detachment received its name "Edelweiss" as a sign that its personnel performs most of the service and combat tasks in the highlands.

The battletrack of the Edelweiss began in February of 1999. Special Forces officers maintained public order in the region of the administrative border between the Stavropol Territory and Chechnya, guarded the industrial facilities of Stavropol.

Since July, 1999 and to the present, the fighters perform service and combat tasks of the North Caucasus region.

“The 17 squad is one of the most worthy squads in the special forces of the internal troops. And the guys there are friendly - a very good team was originally formed. We are proud of them and want to wish all the best and brightest, and most importantly - always return from fulfilling the tasks alive and healthy, ”Lieutenant-General Sergei Kutsov, congratulating the special forces on the anniversary, said congratulating the special forces.
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  1. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 7 October 2013 15: 05 New
    16
    And why did you take such a legendary name ???
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 7 October 2013 15: 09 New
      19
      In order not to invent an emblem again.
      But happy holiday!
      1. AK-47
        AK-47 7 October 2013 16: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: klimpopov
        In order not to invent an emblem again.

        Edelweiss has nothing to do with it, especially fighters.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 7 October 2013 16: 29 New
          11
          In the sense of?
          Edelweiss has nothing to do with it, especially fighters.

          wassat
          Well, as if the flower itself had nothing to do with it, but the symbol causes controversial associations.
          1. ilf
            ilf 7 October 2013 16: 36 New
            +1
            This is one of the detachments of the special forces of the explosives that participated in the war in South Ossetia and then repeatedly left South Ossetia i.e. outside the Russian Federation
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 7 October 2013 16: 41 New
              14
              I do not beg the merits of the detachment. But I’m ready to hear such a name, for example, among Estonians, but ours.
              Repeatedly flashed and always rumor cut.
              1. ilf
                ilf 7 October 2013 17: 10 New
                +3
                I agree with you the name is somehow ambiguous, and traditionally the name of the units is connected with the history of the Motherland
                604 TsSN - formed in 2008 as part of the ODON by combining 1 Vityaz OST, Reutovo-3 and 8 Rus OCH, Moscow
                7 OOS “Rosich” (military unit 3719), Novocherkassk
                12 SPF Ural (military unit 6748), Nizhny Tagil
                15 OOS “Vyatich” (military unit 6761), Armavir
                16 SPF “Skif” (military unit 6760), Rostov-on-Don. Disbanded in 2010
                17 OCH "Edelweiss" (military unit 6762), Mineralnye Vody,
                19 OCH “Ermak” (military unit 6749), Novosibirsk
                20 SPE “Vega” (military unit 7463), Saratov. Disbanded in November 2010
                21 OCH "Typhoon" (military unit 6767), Khabarovsk
                23 OCH "Charm" (military unit 6830), Chelyabinsk
                25 OCH “Mercury” (military unit 7459), Smolensk
                26 OST “Bars” (military unit 5598), Kazan
                27 SPE “Kuzbass” (military unit 6607), Kemerovo
                28 OOS “Ratnik” (military unit 6832), Arkhangelsk
                29 OOS "Bulat" (military unit 6795), Ufa
                30 DOS "Svyatogor" (military unit 5559), Stavropol.
                33 OOS “Peresvet” (military unit 6796), Moscow
                34 OSN (military unit 6775) ,, Tornado ”, Grozny
                1. Massik
                  Massik 7 October 2013 19: 55 New
                  +1
                  Rostov is not disbanded in fact, in 2011 and in 2012 buyers of conscripts came to recruit
              2. albatross
                albatross 7 October 2013 20: 02 New
                +4
                Marshal
                klimpopov SU Today, 16:41 ↑ New
                I do not beg the merits of the detachment. But I’m ready to hear such a name, for example, among Estonians, but ours.
                Repeatedly flashed and always rumor cut.

                That's right, the fighters have nothing to do with it. This our guide has taken a course on "non-German."
                Then Pavel Grachev taxied, he changed the pitches.
          2. Akhtuba73
            Akhtuba73 7 October 2013 17: 40 New
            12
            Quote: klimpopov
            Well, as if the flower itself had nothing to do with it, but the symbol causes controversial associations.

            About the owners of these hats Vysotsky
            .
            You are here again, you are assembled all
            You are waiting for the treasured signal
            And that guy is here too
            Among the shooters from Edelweiss
            They must be dropped from the pass ...

            Fascists, attaching a beautiful flower to their caps, it turns out that he was forever boggled? Fig bald! They touched a lot.
            The guys from the detachment make their glory and flower and the cause to which they dedicated life.
            Happy holiday !!
            1. Navy7981
              Navy7981 7 October 2013 18: 16 New
              +9
              "The fascists, attaching a beautiful flower to their caps, goes forever to be scattered?" I absolutely agree with you. And then all kind of rubbish appropriates a certain symbol for itself, but normal ones are shy to use it, for example - who now has assigned a rainbow to us and now what if we don’t look at it? So edelweiss is just a flower.
            2. Per se.
              Per se. 7 October 2013 20: 08 New
              +3
              Quote: Akhtuba73
              Fascists, attaching a beautiful flower to their caps, it turns out that he was forever boggled? Fig bald!
              Mikhail Ancharov has a “Ballad on Parachutes,” it begins as follows:
              The parachutes rushed
              And took the weight
              The earth fluttered barely.
              And below - divisions
              "Edelweiss"
              And the "Dead Head."
              Of course, the flower is not to blame, no offense, men, our grandfathers laid their heads, and still remember these names, we could somehow take this into account, there are other options. Good luck and happy holiday!
            3. Revolver
              Revolver 8 October 2013 01: 10 New
              +5
              Quote: Akhtuba73
              Fascists, attaching a beautiful flower to their caps, it turns out that he was forever boggled? Fig bald! They touched a lot.

              Well, in this case, the swastika is no more than the ancient Indian symbol of the sun and good. And the English word [gay] means "cheerful", "cheerful." But I don’t think that you will like it if you are called gay. hi
              1. alexander 2
                alexander 2 8 October 2013 02: 27 New
                +4
                That's why I never ....... in gays and do not call.
        2. bask
          bask 7 October 2013 16: 38 New
          +6
          Mountain Rifle Divisions SS.
          6th Mountain Division SS "Nord"
          7th Volunteer Mountain Rifle Division SS "Prince Eugene"
          13th Mountain Division SS Handshar (Croatian No. 1)
          21st SS Mountain Division Skanderbeg (Albanian No. 1)
          23rd SS Mountain Division Kama (Croatian No. 2)
          24th SS Mountain Division.
          "Edelweiss" is the unofficial name for the 1st Wehrmacht mountain rifle division.
          The 1st Mountain Rifle Division, as an emblem, had just an edelweiss flower.
          2nd Mountain Division - deer heads.
          But the USSR, 1st, division was called "edelweiss".
          Special Forces BB, could choose another name.
          In the GRU special forces, there are no Nazi names.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 7 October 2013 17: 33 New
            -3
            in fact, more carnation bothers me than edelweiss
    2. alone
      alone 7 October 2013 18: 58 New
      -4
      And why did you take such a legendary name ???



      so that we ourselves become a legendary unit yes
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 7 October 2013 19: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: lonely
        so that we ourselves become a legendary unit

        I think it’s necessary to call ours the mountain rifle part - the bulbul bul !!!! And Edelweiss is really shameful !!
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 7 October 2013 20: 05 New
          +4
          Hi Hi! I haven’t seen you here for a long time. Dad read this news. I wanted to leave koment. I said that they would ban for not censorship. Somehow it is not clear to me. Someone indulges in the "romance" of the fascist? What for? Unclear. What is edelweiss for? Well, there are wonderful names. Or I don’t understand something? ...
          Sorry for the grammar from the phone. And he inserts the AutoCorrect.
          1. albatross
            albatross 7 October 2013 20: 25 New
            +2
            klimpopov SU Today, 20:05 ↑ New
            What is edelweiss for? Well, there are wonderful names. Or I don’t understand something? ...

            I apologize for interfering, but it’s also unclear to me. Vague doubts torment me, so to speak. The fact that the powers of the explosives were expanded means that there is a war going on inside the country. And she does not think to end. Why? For fifteen years can not solve the problem? Or is it beneficial to someone?
            Further, I am enclosing an interesting interview, there about the Tiger armored vehicles, and in the same vein:
            Corr. - What samples? The first time I've heard.

            ON THE. - For example, the Tiger car, it is specially designed for street battles with demonstrators. In Irkutsk, when there, environmentalists allegedly muddied for the cleanliness of Lake Baikal, it was worth leaving these cars — all slowly dispersed. It turned out that the instigators of the demonstration were criminal circles: they used programs from Microsoft illegally and violated the Russian Criminal Code. Riot police quickly neutralized these villains.

            Corr. - They said that the Tiger is an analogue of the Hammer for military needs. Why did the Ministry of Defense refuse to acquire them, and switched to Spanish cars?

            ON THE. - It does not provide for the required firepower and armor protection. But it is resistant to turning over by hand, has a system for extinguishing the Molotov cocktail, is easily equipped with machine guns, gas grenades, water cannons and other special equipment. Psychologists carefully selected the name of the car, as in the case with the form of the Ministry of Emergencies. The name of the German tanks won. A historical memory should emerge from the plebs, they would only dare from the Tigers, and they would throw Kasparov and Limonov.

            http://baikal24.ru/page.php?action=showItem&type=hot&id=115
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 7 October 2013 21: 14 New
            +3
            Klim there are hundreds of names of rare mountain plants !! for example, the name I name it grows only in Karabakh in Shusha and incredible beauty !! I imagine in Russia and the Caucasus, in Altai, what are the rare plants that you needed exactly edelweiss ??
            From my lack of knowledge in my opinion that's all !!
        2. alone
          alone 7 October 2013 20: 41 New
          +2
          Hi Alibek! I think that this will be the right decision. It will be advisable to combine all the mountain shooters into a single building
        3. Civil
          Civil 8 October 2013 07: 05 New
          +1
          With Edelweiss they went over ... yes, all the same, this was a household name, and Goebbels came up with the name for the Austrian mountain shooters, and Hitler warmly supported
    3. honest jew
      honest jew 7 October 2013 22: 01 New
      +3
      "Edelweiss" - the name of the mountain rifle units of the Wehrmacht and the SS.
  2. volcano
    volcano 7 October 2013 15: 06 New
    22
    SWAT is cool. No questions.
    Only the name Edelweiss .... mm .... catches .... a certain memory, and this name is not the most successful for sure.
    In my opinion, this is the same as calling a new tank not ARMATA, but say .... Tiger or Panther or Ferdinand, etc. Well, you understand what I mean.


    By the way, I have not heard that there is a VITYAZ in the Bundeswehr or on the Varyag fleet
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 7 October 2013 15: 11 New
      +1
      The special forces are judged by his deeds, not by his name! They probably did it on purpose to confuse the enemy.
  3. waisson
    waisson 7 October 2013 15: 14 New
    +2
    see in the command of the detachment there are fans of German history, but so with the past holiday! drinks soldier
  4. Zhenya
    Zhenya 7 October 2013 15: 15 New
    0
    Fig, but I didn’t know belay
  5. pensioner
    pensioner 7 October 2013 15: 15 New
    11
    Quote: volkan
    Only the name Edelweiss .... mm .... catches .... a certain memory, and this name is not the most successful for sure.

    We assume that the Germans did not copy the name, but took it away. Then everything seems to become normal ...
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 7 October 2013 15: 23 New
      +4
      And the flowers are beautiful. Blue, almost white. I saw it live. DO NOT RIP! For in the red book))))
      1. Tamagon
        Tamagon 7 October 2013 16: 03 New
        +4
        They cannot be in the red book; in our Altai, sheep eat them, everywhere underfoot in most of the regions.
        I put a minus article only because of the name of the unit.
        And you plus for the love of botany. smile
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 7 October 2013 16: 37 New
          +3
          And we have very few of them. crying And high enough. Maybe some kind. Yes, and from school they said that wild tulips and edelweiss can not be torn and trampled because they are in the red book. It turns out the teacher lied. Disorder day
        2. silver_roman
          silver_roman 7 October 2013 16: 38 New
          +4
          you will not believe it, but the lilies of the valley are also in the red book, and at Khreshchatyk in Kiev in the spring they can be bought for 15 hryvnias (15 UAH = 60 rubles).
          According to the logic of Europe, you can put sooo much in the Red Book. A narrow horizons and forms this book!
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 7 October 2013 16: 42 New
            +4
            And lilies of the valley, we have a lot of them in the forest in the spring. Nevertheless, one must respectfully with nature.
            And yes, what's wrong with the red book then?
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 7 October 2013 17: 06 New
              +3
              that is nothing bad. just who is composing this book if it contains such contradictions. Therefore, I say that the book is one-sided. but on account of "protect nature" I am only FOR!
              1. Tamagon
                Tamagon 7 October 2013 17: 43 New
                +3
                There is the Red Book of Russia, there are separate Red Books of the regions. Like the Red Book of the Altai Republic. The plants and animals contained in the Red Book of the regions may be rare and endangered species in the region, but are very common in the rest of Russia.
                For example, we have in the Red Book of the Republic of Altai a rare plant Ural licorice. It is everywhere ubiquitous. The fact is that this plant has a sweetish edible root, and in our country during the Great Patriotic War during the famine the population almost completely destroyed it.
                Or, for example, the Snow Leopard in the Altai Mountains is about 40-60 individuals, while in neighboring Mongolia their shepherds drive with sticks.
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 7 October 2013 17: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: retired
      We assume that the Germans did not copy the name, but took it away. Then everything seems to become normal ..

      drinks good
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 7 October 2013 20: 39 New
        0
        Alexei! Similarly! - drinks
    3. Hauser
      Hauser 7 October 2013 20: 35 New
      +2
      We assume that the Germans did not copy the name, but took it away. Then everything seems to become normal ...
      I agree. Cherkesska is also not a national Cossack clothing. Winners are eligible for trophies, no losers.
  6. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 7 October 2013 15: 22 New
    +4
    Selected or taken over? All the same, it somehow cuts the ear ...
    I don’t know whose idea it is, but the guys from this special forces now need to create a new stereotype!
    1. the polar
      the polar 7 October 2013 16: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: x.andvlad
      Selected or taken over? All the same, it somehow cuts the ear ...
      I don’t know whose idea it is, but the guys from this special forces now need to create a new stereotype!

      And this has become a tradition. Either the Vlasov tricolor will be made the state flag, and on the Victory Day it is dragged, then the symbolism of the German occupiers is being introduced into the "internal troops".
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 7 October 2013 17: 15 New
        +1
        Not just if there are a lot of visually and grandmas are selling at the market - this does not mean that they are in principle abundant. A habitat there, or a unique climate is needed and so on ... Believe me, not just.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 7 October 2013 20: 09 New
          0
          My computer buggy not there koment inserted.
      2. POBEDA
        POBEDA 7 October 2013 18: 43 New
        +2
        Tricolor is not Vlasov, but since the time of Peter the Great, it has been a nationality for more than 200 years!
  7. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 7 October 2013 15: 26 New
    +4
    The name is certainly beautiful and poetic, but as be:

    The sunset flickered like the glitter of a blade.
    Death considered her prey.
    The fight will be tomorrow, but for now
    Platoon burrowing into the clouds
    And left the pass.

    Leave conversations
    Forward and up, and there ...
    After all, these are our mountains,
    They will help us!

    And before the war, this slope
    German guy took with you!
    He fell down, but was saved,
    And now, perhaps, he
    His machine is preparing for battle.

    Leave conversations
    Forward and up, and there ...
    After all, these are our mountains,
    They will help us!

    A platoon climbs up, and by the river -
    The one you walked with before.
    We are waiting for the attack to longing,
    And here are the alpine arrows
    Today, something is not in shock.

    Leave conversations
    Forward and up, and there ...
    After all, these are our mountains,
    They will help us!

    You are here again, you are assembled all,
    You are waiting for the cherished signal.
    And the guy is, he's here too.
    Among the shooters from the Edelweiss.
    They must be reset from the pass!

    Leave conversations
    Forward and up, and there ...
    After all, these are our mountains,
    They will help us!
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 7 October 2013 15: 33 New
      +9
      quote- “17-th detachment - this is one of the most worthy detachments in the special forces of the internal troops.
      1. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 7 October 2013 17: 45 New
        +3
        There is no doubt about the merits of the detachment, and the guys who serve in it ... But "Edelweiss" !!! I already wrote that my grandfather was wounded in battles in the Caucasus and died in a hospital in Nalchik. I myself served in Transcaucasia in the river Gruzia (93-94) where veterans (especially Svans) remember the days of battles with the Edelweiss division. I think for the name of the valiant Russian special forces there is a worthy name.
  8. Algor73
    Algor73 7 October 2013 15: 32 New
    +5
    It is strange that the name was taken, as with the special forces of Nazi Germany. If the squad from Ukraine were so named, what kind of reaction would there be?
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 7 October 2013 15: 34 New
      +5
      Obviously negative, and not because Ukraine, but because Bendery parades you go. To be honest, I have a surprise about the name.
  9. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 7 October 2013 15: 39 New
    +2
    Very ambiguous name of the detachment ... even with a negative color. NORD division on the way to the far North?sad
    Fighters HONOR AND GLORY!soldier
    1. mehanik27
      mehanik27 7 October 2013 23: 45 New
      +3
      Chu ... you still lagged behind life, we already had this.
      .... "..." Meine Ehre heißt Treue! "-" My honor is called loyalty. "
      The motto is a slightly modified expression of Hitler 1931 "SS man, your honor is called loyalty" (German SS-Mann, deine Ehre heißt Treue). There are various opinions on the appearance of this phrase. According to one of them, this phrase was in a letter from Hitler to the head of the Berlin SS, Kurt Daluge. According to another, he was pronounced at one of the party meetings - after the units of the Berlin SA Walter Shtennes tried to storm the Berlin district government of the SS and were stopped by a handful of SS men, while Joseph Goebbels and his entourage disappeared.
      At the same time, the Berlin SS was proved “unshakable loyalty to the leader” under its commander Kurt Dalug. Hitler handed Daluga a letter expressing gratitude in it. In this letter of gratitude, Hitler also included a sentence: ... SS man, your honor is called loyalty!
      The head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler introduced this proposal as the motto of the SS ... "" ""
      And now, attention is the motto of the Obninsk nuclear submarine, "My honor is called fidelity."
      By the way, this motto is prohibited in several countries, including criminal prosecution.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 8 October 2013 05: 48 New
        0
        people just have the head of the problem. according to their logic, you can cut half the words out of the language. Panther, tiger, brigade, commandant’s office ..


        ......
        such associations can actually be found and brought under the negative. On Navalnovsk and Kasparov sites they love to relish these temkas. To compare paratroopers with gays, to bring a symbol to a drunk Russia with their clever little heads. So they worry about their homeland

        and tomorrow Hitler’s autobahns and economic will be praised in some sort of topic. industrial, military breakthrough of Germany during Hitler. which actually happens regularly
  10. Siberian
    Siberian 7 October 2013 15: 56 New
    10
    Edelweiss is considered a flower of fidelity and love, courage and courage.So the normal name for the special forces. And do not pay attention to others (who wore or have this name). Happy Edelweiss.
    1. Tamagon
      Tamagon 7 October 2013 16: 09 New
      +3
      History and memory can not be thrown away, there should be at least some respect for veterans.
      In general, in the internal troops, the new armored car will be called the Punisher, or something else will be thrown out.
    2. mehanik27
      mehanik27 7 October 2013 23: 50 New
      +2
      The swastika is a symbol of movement, life, the sun, light, prosperity. And you don’t need to pay attention to others (who wore this name or is) ..... if you rephrase your words
  11. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 7 October 2013 15: 58 New
    +5
    Maybe in the BB will soon make the Dead Head Division?
    THINKING NECESSARY?
    1. the polar
      the polar 7 October 2013 16: 59 New
      +9
      Quote: x.andvlad
      Maybe in the BB will soon make the Dead Head Division?
      THINKING NECESSARY?

      Charming!
      I would assign the name "Dead Head" to the Russian government, and to all divisions of officials taking the Russian budget as an attack, as their personal trophy.
      1. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 7 October 2013 17: 49 New
        +1
        No comment ... Just a class !!!
  12. FlyEngine
    FlyEngine 7 October 2013 16: 02 New
    +1
    I think there is no connection between the German name and ours at all.
    You are so alarmed, as if they are called "Hitler Youth". Funny even.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 7 October 2013 16: 47 New
      +6
      Well, the police were renamed the police. Now the policemen.
      We are waiting for the Gestapo ... Again, no connection.

      And yes, edelweiss - edel - "noble" and weiss - "white" per. from German. Although in Latin it seems like a lion's paw. I do not know.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 October 2013 16: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: klimpopov
        We are waiting for the appearance of the Gestapo.

        Hi Klim! It’s early, the Tiger has already been built, now we are waiting for the Panthers to appear, but then you can think about the Abwehr laughing
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 7 October 2013 16: 56 New
          +3
          Give the renaming of the Air Force in the Luvtwaffe !!! wassat
          Hi Sanya!
        2. FlyEngine
          FlyEngine 7 October 2013 19: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: klimpopov
          We are waiting for the appearance of the Gestapo.

          It’s early, the Tiger has already been built, now we are waiting for the Panthers to appear, but then you can think about the Abwehr laughing

          You still have strange humor. After all, the flower is beautiful .. Let us now generally ban the words "tiger" and "panther", we will call the animals, respectively, "orange minke" and "golden spotted." You can go even further and generally prohibit the root "Rus", what are you! Hitler himself said it! Russland, russisch.
          Don't get ridiculous guys.
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 7 October 2013 20: 12 New
            +3
            Well, as be and the swastika by your logic is permissible. These characters were disgraced. And the name itself doesn’t hurt you? I have a clear association.
            I hope they understood about the swastika. And now how to explain to the veteran? What is edelweiss called?
            1. FlyEngine
              FlyEngine 14 October 2013 22: 59 New
              0
              I was in India, I was presented with a copper necklace with three swastikas in the market, such a chain. And what do you think? It’s just a symbol of the sun, and the Hindu behind the counter does not even suspect any connection with the Germans. What am I now to beat him with the words "grandfathers fought !!"? Yes, I can’t show this necklace to a veteran, because for him this symbol looks different. And I hate the Nazis so much that I simply expelled these stupid associations from the subconscious. And it’s easy for me.
      2. mehanik27
        mehanik27 7 October 2013 23: 51 New
        +2
        everything is yet to come ....
  13. RN40Y45
    RN40Y45 7 October 2013 16: 03 New
    0
    Right now, the guys will think and rename the Leontopodium
    1. Altona
      Altona 7 October 2013 17: 48 New
      +2
      In less than an hour, what’s called ... It comes to mind something like Barca or Leopard, noble cats living in the mountains ...
  14. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 7 October 2013 16: 04 New
    +1
    Come on people, edelweiss is a beautiful flower and special forces наш.
    Quote: Фкенщь13
    Leave conversations
    Forward and up, and there ...
    After all, these are our mountains,
    They will help us!

    We are proud of them and want to wish all the best and best of luck, and most importantly, always return from the fulfillment of tasks alive and healthy. ”
  15. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 7 October 2013 16: 09 New
    +3
    The Nazis have spoiled a lot of good names, what is already here. It's time to rehabilitate.
  16. Tamagon
    Tamagon 7 October 2013 16: 14 New
    +4
    Guys .... RESPECT FOR VETERANS !!!!!!! The memory of those who crawled over the rocks, knocking edelweiss from the passes. What the hell botany!
  17. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 7 October 2013 16: 17 New
    +2
    With the name puncture of course ... but, with a holiday!
  18. clidon
    clidon 7 October 2013 16: 24 New
    +7
    The Edelweiss squad on the Punisher armored vehicles began clearing the village.
    You need to think with your head when you take your own names.
  19. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 7 October 2013 16: 36 New
    +5
    Gentlemen, of course I understand everything, but I only associate with the 1.Gebirgs-Division.
  20. sak1969
    sak1969 7 October 2013 16: 47 New
    +4
    clidon
    The Edelweiss squad on the Punisher armored vehicles began clearing the village.

    Not a village, but a village ...

    Fine . Already sneaks from such a phrase. "Spirits" will be cast off !!!
    1. POBEDA
      POBEDA 7 October 2013 18: 32 New
      +1
      Yes, really ... I don’t even know what is better than “edelweiss” or “punisher” ... the brains don’t work for those who come up with such names
  21. Ash
    Ash 7 October 2013 17: 23 New
    +5
    Stalin didn’t let “Victory” be called “Homeland”, asking: “Well, how much will our Homeland be?” I think that Edelweiss would not have taken root.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 7 October 2013 22: 19 New
      +1
      Well done Stalin - short and clear!
  22. Iskander1369
    Iskander1369 7 October 2013 17: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: chunga-changa
    The Nazis have spoiled a lot of good names, what is already here. It's time to rehabilitate.

    Absolutely true !!!!
    1. Tamagon
      Tamagon 7 October 2013 18: 04 New
      +3
      Is it necessary to get in touch? What a wonderful setup for Western liberal propagandists. And it turns in the language - named after ..... special forces of the VV carried out a special operation in the best traditions ........
      Wash yourself later, and prove to everyone and everyone that the flower is beautiful, and that the Germans did not have such a name, but on all channels.
      Remember 08.08.08. Nobody has canceled the information war, and has not stopped.
      How specially set up.
    2. Combitor
      Combitor 8 October 2013 02: 25 New
      +1
      <Iskander1369 Yesterday, 17:53
      Quote: chunga-changa
      The Nazis have spoiled a lot of good names, what is already here. It's time to rehabilitate.
      That's right !!!!>
      Yeah, in this case, you urgently need to "rehabilitate" the swastika. After all, a good, life-affirming symbol of the sun, good and light. I am in a good mood today and the day is sunny. I’m probably going to draw a swastika on the fence. Can I go far then?
      Although, at the present time, they may not even pay attention to me. And about 40 years ago ...
      Also with the edelweiss. Ask any person over 40 years old what the name of the flower is associated with. And compare how many will answer about the Wehrmacht detachment and how many will be called the special forces detachment of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      Yes, and the trend is being traced. First, "borrowed names." Now we have reached the emblems of the armed forces. Shoigu decided to make the army happy with new signs in the American manner.
  23. saag
    saag 7 October 2013 18: 03 New
    +1
    An interesting thing with the names, for example -
    Quote: ilf
    25 OCH “Mercury” (military unit 7459), Smolensk
    Mercury is the promoter of trade, why did they take such a "talking" name for themselves, or because it is beautiful?
    1. Tamagon
      Tamagon 7 October 2013 18: 09 New
      +2
      And there was the Abwehr school nearby, called Saturn ... Saturn - Mercury does not resemble any connection? By the way I was in this place, I saw old German trenches.
      1. ilf
        ilf 7 October 2013 19: 10 New
        +5
        You are mistaken!
        In 1238, during the invasion of the Mongol-Tatar hordes to Russia, the enemy approached Smolensk. In a dream, the warrior of the Smolensk squad Mercury appeared Mother of God Hodegetria, who ordered him to gather an army and go to the Tatars, promising protection from above in the military business. Mercury led two thousand warriors, but there were more Tatars. Despite this, Mercury took the battle, knocked over the enemies and defended Smolensk. He himself died in this battle. For his feat, he was canonized.
    2. ilf
      ilf 7 October 2013 19: 30 New
      +1
      Named detachment given in honor of the great Slavic warrior warrior of the 13th century Mercury
      1. Tamagon
        Tamagon 7 October 2013 19: 32 New
        0
        Thank you!
        Did not know.
        Indeed, my sarcasm in this case, the ball is not appropriate.
  24. andrei.
    andrei. 2012 7 October 2013 18: 19 New
    +5
    Yes, just congratulate the guys on a significant date. And we will argue about the name the other day. Good luck to them.
  25. avg
    avg 7 October 2013 18: 43 New
    +1
    Well, if it itches it, rhododendron could be called. There are many of them in the Elbrus region.
  26. AnpeL
    AnpeL 7 October 2013 20: 14 New
    +1
    Chet all attached to this name. Felts envious of whom, felts cleverly finishing. The guys who serve here are some of the best. I am sure they are proud of the name of their detachment, despite the fact that someone doesn’t like something for some reason but can’t wait ...
  27. konvalval
    konvalval 7 October 2013 21: 28 New
    +1
    You about courageous guys, and you about flowers.
  28. MARGARITA
    MARGARITA 7 October 2013 22: 13 New
    +2
    Edelweiss is a flower from many ancient legends and stories, it symbolizes love, courage and devotion: love for the country and the land on which you live, courage to defend its interests and those of your people, devotion to the Oath and military brotherhood

    Edelweiss is a gentle flower at first glance, but how much endurance and endurance is hidden in it ... because the rays of the bright midday sun do not burn it, sharply changing temperatures and winds are not able to destroy its graceful and delicate velvety petals, they are unpretentious, drought-resistant and winter-hardy ... Edelweiss contrary to all natural phenomena, it is full of strength and energy. It seems to me that the nature of this flower has everything that is inherent in a special forces soldier!
    Fighters and officers of the special forces "Edelweiss", with the holiday YOU! Despite all the difficulties, I wish you to conquer the heights you have chosen and reach their peaks, to remain sophisticated, delicately velvety like Edelweiss for the view of others, and only you will know what strength is hidden within you to withstand all the life conflicts in the state. Happy holiday!
  29. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 7 October 2013 22: 26 New
    +1
    Children with a holiday, but the name "Edelweiss" is really associated with the German mountain rangers I have ...
  30. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2013 22: 31 New
    +1
    I don’t want to say anything bad, but ...

  31. Federal
    Federal 7 October 2013 22: 39 New
    -8
    It’s time to learn how to beautifully call equipment, special squads, etc. The image is something that has always been limping in the Soviet army, rags instead of uniforms, buckets instead of helmets, lochovskie names cliffs, hillocks, Krasnopoli and other heresies. When at least someone with a normal taste comes to the army to make it truly popular and stylish, copy at least Amer’s uniform, do not reinvent the wheel. The whole world, even the Chinas run in actually German helmets of 2 MB, we all invent some sort of yet another squalor until finally Shoigu thought of copying the best from Amers. And yet, personally, I would not want to serve in any Kuzbass, Nizhny Tagil (no offense will be said by the servants) but edelweiss, that's cool, well done commanders and there’s nothing to be ashamed of and equal to naphthalene, the Wehrmacht was the most stylish army of its time, losers of the war solely because of the size of the enemy. We must take the best from the enemies and learn from our mistakes and drive the cheers of the patriots to the neck from questions of the image of the still Soviet army
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2013 23: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Federal
      at least someone with a normal taste will come into the army

      something else is needed in the army
      Quote: Federal
      there is nothing to align with naphthalene
      you have not yet handed over your parents to a nursing home?
      1. Federal
        Federal 7 October 2013 23: 29 New
        -4
        and someone said about parents when it came to talking about the image of the army?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2013 23: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Federal
          and someone said about parents when it came to talking about the image of the army?

          the image of the army is not a beautiful cap, although it’s not bad either, it’s strong armor, albeit not very glamorous

          and parents, because they are also not young, so why should you "equal mothballs"
          1. Federal
            Federal 7 October 2013 23: 41 New
            -5
            I’m saying that I’ll deliver the 1st world carts to the T-34 and everything will be exactly the plan for recruiting contract soldiers and popularizing military service, keep it up, only then don’t complain that nobody wants to serve ...
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2013 23: 45 New
              -1
              I won’t even sing, don’t comb the goat, don’t leave the goat
              1. Federal
                Federal 7 October 2013 23: 51 New
                -3
                Well, that’s the level, there are no arguments, insult, learn the part and history of the cap healer. Chtd
  32. arb0905
    arb0905 7 October 2013 23: 03 New
    +4
    you read such as "federal" and once again you are convinced how badly our work after the war in Ukraine
    1. Federal
      Federal 7 October 2013 23: 28 New
      -4
      about who worked how and where, it’s not for you non-black sheep to mumble your precious opinion, I’m from the Donbass and even more Russian than you, and it’s not our misfortune that your EBN and radiance blew everything in 1991, the born one will not crawl, the army is wearing castoffs there will always remain a scoop and "heroically overcoming another obstacle" which is not there, but simply cutting the dough is something in which your bureaucrats have long succeeded in your dispersal and our yandi. Look at the civilized world and compare what you’re dressed in here and here, how they are fighting here and there, it’s time to wear the 21st century on your nose, go roll the cart and call in the contract ...
  33. cayman
    cayman 7 October 2013 23: 18 New
    -4
    The hypocritical hypocrisy of the Jews and the shabbosgoyschayuschih scoops already got. Wow! Stress their verbal associations. The word edelweiss cuts the ear. And why doesn't the phrase MAMAEV KURGAN, on which the monument "Motherland is Calling" stands, hurt you? Why doesn’t the word Mamai bother you? Is it because Mamai, unlike Hitler, did not persecute Jews, but, on the contrary, worked closely with Crimean Jews - Karaites on the basis of the slave trade of the Slavs. There is nothing to let snot, hiding behind the memory of the ancestors who fought with the Germans. In the end, the Russians and the Germans fought seriously in history only twice (the first and second world wars), which lasted only a few years. But with the Jewish Khazaria, the Polovtsy and the Tatars, they fought for a thousand years and almost continuously. The Khazars, Batu, and Mamai brought the Russian people a million times more grief than the Germans during both world wars. For a Russian person with a national identity, Germany with a Kaiser, president or Fuhrer is a million times preferable than the Jewish Khazars or the Mamaev horde. Therefore. They called the squad the German word "Edelweiss" and very good! It would be bad if it were called in Hebrew or Tatar.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2013 23: 36 New
      0
      Quote: cayman
      For a Russian person with a national identity

      you have neither self awareness nor brains
      1. Federal
        Federal 7 October 2013 23: 46 New
        -5
        because of such Vladimirs cheers vanek patriots, the army stomps on the spot in the middle of the 20th century, without a civilian form and with gibberish terminology, give him another Mosin rifle and call it a Russian berdanka, he will break his forehead with happiness
        1. soldier's grandson
          soldier's grandson 7 October 2013 23: 59 New
          +5
          you forgot to add civil gay couples to the army, otherwise we will remain civilized in your bast shoes
      2. cayman
        cayman 8 October 2013 10: 44 New
        -1
        This is your troll, there are no brains, no national identity. Judging by the flag and surname, you are just a “scoop” without a tribe.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 8 October 2013 10: 52 New
          0
          Well, what do you name my surname and flag of the Union? !!!
    2. both s69
      both s69 8 October 2013 07: 14 New
      0
      I agree! About the Khazars and their descendants - Chechens, Ingush and Dagestanis (Derbent, the capital of ancient Khazaria, who does not remember, and WHAT the Khazars-Jews did, I think too many participants in this forum), in a true historical vein, speaking in Russia is not tolerant, do you understand and associative relations between botany and one of the Wehrmacht units to connect in the minds of ordinary people into inseparable unity for all times and occasions - this is natural. Well, how can one really compare the damage to the Slavic peoples of the Germans and some Mongols?! .. winked
  34. I think so
    I think so 7 October 2013 23: 38 New
    +1
    It’s a shame ... to call a military unit dirty with name ... these apparently do not know and did not read the history of the Second World War ... at least they would listen to Vysotsky’s songs ...
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2013 23: 41 New
      0
      and "naphthalene" mods do not listen
    2. Federal
      Federal 7 October 2013 23: 55 New
      -1
      what is it soiled in? and the tiger armored car also can not be called a tiger? And the shark submarines? God forbid, the Americans of the aggressors have something similar? You there tea did not go crazy gentlemen? Maybe an attack of senility began?
  35. darksoul
    darksoul 7 October 2013 23: 44 New
    +3
    Guys with a holiday ....
  36. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 7 October 2013 23: 52 New
    +2
    the grandfather will ask the front-line soldier of the one where he served, and in reply to him: "in edelweiss" - then a silent scene or a blow in the ear to this edelweiss
    1. Federal
      Federal 8 October 2013 00: 01 New
      -3
      and went to the GAS "Tiger" .... insanity you have a granddaughter
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 8 October 2013 00: 07 New
        +3
        do not confuse people with technology, do you think the Russian division "ss dead head" is this normal too? you probably benderovets
  37. AlexisFJ
    AlexisFJ 8 October 2013 08: 26 New
    0
    Stop vilifying the name. Actually, the guys have a holiday !!! And some might just congratulate them on this date. Edelweiss fighters somehow sorted out their name themselves.
  38. torry
    torry 8 October 2013 09: 28 New
    0
    I join those whose name warps. The one who chose him had no brains at all.