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Open letter of veterans of UKBTM to President Vladimir Putin

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OPEN LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION V.V. PUTIN


Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich!
More than 20 years have passed since the adoption of the main military tank T-90 With the advent of this tank and, especially, its export modification of the T-90S, during the troubled and difficult years of the mass death of the defense industry enterprises, it was possible to save the tank design bureau in Nizhny Tagil and the only tank production plant, and, consequently, the entire tank industry of Russia.

Open letter of veterans of UKBTM to President Vladimir Putin

The main merit in this belongs to the talented designer and outstanding leader of the Orders of Lenin and the October Revolution of the Ural Design Bureau of Transport Engineering (UKBTM, Nizhny Tagil, Sverdlovsk Region), colonel-engineer Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin. This year he would have turned 75 since his birth. He not only organized with the support of the General Director of the production association "Uralvagonzavod" Malykh N.A. (1997-2003) and Head of the Main Automobile and Armored Directorate of the Ministry of Defense, Honorary Citizen of Nizhny Tagil, Colonel-General S.A. (1996-2006) in the shortest possible time the development of design documentation for the export version of the T-90C, but also recreated the entire chain of cooperation anew, persuading some suppliers to revive production again.
In addition, Potkin laid the foundation for the creation of new promising Russian combat vehicles and other complex equipment.

13 May 1999, Vladimir Ivanovich, refusing to go to the hospital, died in his workplace from a second heart attack, after the hardest preparation for extreme tests of T-90С tanks in India on the eve of their departure to the airport.
After that, a number of lucrative contracts for the supply of T-90С tanks were concluded abroad. To date, the T-90С tank is the most popular main tank on the international arms market, bringing substantial profits to the state.

Taking into account the exceptional contribution of the chief designer of OAO "Ural Transport Engineering Bureau" V. Potkina In the development of domestic tank production, its outstanding achievements in the creation of samples of armored, engineering, road-building equipment, which did not receive a decent assessment at the state level, the veterans of UKBTM OJSC put forward a proposal to award Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin with the title “Hero of the Russian Federation”, or as an option, “Hero of Labor of the Russian Federation” (posthumously).

The motivation of our proposals was recognized as convincing and supported by the staff of the Presidential Envoy to the Ural Federal District. Consultations of employees with specialists of the Commission under the President of the Russian Federation on state awards (hereinafter referred to as the "Commission") were held.
The experts of the Commission pointed out a number of requirements for awarding the highest awards that prevent the appropriation of Potkin V.I. the title of "Hero of Russia" or "Hero of Labor" (posthumously). Their essence is as follows:
1. Merits Potkina V.I. for the creation of the T-90 tank (T-90C) were awarded his Order "For Services to the Fatherland" III degree (posthumously) by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 796 from 18.06.99.
Twice state awards for the same merit are not assigned.

We are compelled to state that this requirement was not taken into account by the top leaders of the countries in justified cases:
For example: "For the development of the design of a new medium tank" T-34 chief designer Koshkin M.I. 10 was awarded the Stalin Prize on April 1942 (posthumously), and after 50 years after his death, he was posthumously awarded the title "Hero of Socialist Labor" (analogous to the title "Hero of Labor").
In the aggregate of all the sporting achievements, the title “Hero of Socialist Labor” was awarded 18.03.1990 by the famous football goalkeeper Lev Yashin, who by that time had 4 other state awards.
In the USA, for outstanding sporting achievements at the World Olympiad in 1936, distinguished athlete Jesse Owens was twice awarded at various times the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Gold Medal of Congress.
2. The title “Hero of Labor of the Russian Federation” is not posthumously awarded. Foundation: Clause 8 “Regulations on State Awards of the Russian Federation” (Decree of the President of the Russian Federation on 07.09.2010, No. 1099 “On Measures to Improve the State Prize System of the Russian Federation”).
As counterarguments, examples can be given about posthumously appropriating Koshkin M.I. the title of “Hero of Socialist Labor” and the assignment of the title of “Hero of Socialist Labor” (posthumously) to the six creators of the Russian reactive weapons (Decree of the President of the USSR No. UP-2120 of 21.06.1991) and others.

Thus, the top leaders of countries in justified cases do not take into account various restrictions in conferring the highest awards for outstanding services and exploits to their citizens.
In this case, in our opinion, for assignment to Potkin VI the highest rank of the country, the President of Russia does not even need to look for any exceptions to the order of award that has developed at the state level.
Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin was awarded the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, III degree, only for his specific services to lead the work on the creation of the T-90 (T-90С) tank of the 1999 model of the year and they are a priori worthily evaluated. (Like the chief designer MI Koshkin, Vladimir Ivanovich did not live to see the triumph of his “brainchild”).

A few days after the tragic death of Potkin, tests of X-NUMX’s T-XNUM-X tanks began in the most difficult climatic conditions of the Indian Tar desert, which resulted in the first lucrative Russian contract for supplying India with a large batch of these tanks. From that moment, Uralvagonzavod, dying from lack of money, and even more than two hundred enterprises - suppliers of components and components of the tank, began to rise "from its knees". The tank industry of Russia was saved!

But this does not exhaust the merits of Potkin to the country!
Despite the massive collapse of industrial enterprises and the degradation of scientific centers in the "dashing" 90-s, at UKBTM, under the leadership of Potkin, an unprecedented pace at that time carried out technical re-equipment of the enterprise, launched a unique integrated stand that allows you to remove the load characteristics of the tank at extremely high temperatures ambient air, 100-percent computerization was carried out at all engineering and engineering workplaces and auxiliary services, a huge technical reserve was created ytnye models of tanks, engineering and special complex machines.
Among them:
- Fighting vehicle fire support - BMPT ("Terminator"), which has no analogues in its combat characteristics in the world tank building;
- "Objects 187" - six (!) Completely different modifications of tanks;
- Perspective "Object 195" with unique technical characteristics.
According to experts, many technical solutions of this tank were borrowed in creating the now well-known prototype of the Armat tank;
- Loader universal small-sized PIP-500;
- Excavator on tracked EO-5126;
- Excavator wheeled EO-33211.
In addition, on the basis of "T-90" were developed:
- an improved engineering machine for lining the IMR-2MA;
- modernized engineering machine for lining the IMR-3;
- armored mine clearance vehicle BMR-3M), etc.

In total, over the period of work as chief designer from 01.12.87 to 13.05.99, Vladimir Ivanovich led the development and creation of 55 types of armored vehicles, engineering vehicles based on tank chassis, road construction equipment and other sophisticated vehicles.

During the period of his management of the enterprise, the work of the UKBTM workshops was transferred to 3-shift work, and all employees received their salaries regularly and on time.

This allowed UKBTM to take a leading position in the domestic tank building.

According to its importance for strengthening the defense capability of Russia, the listed merits of Potkin V.I. cumulatively must be evaluated separately and awarded the highest award of the country (posthumously).

For example: only for the supply by Ukraine of the 320 tank contract to Pakistan, the former chief designer of the Kharkov tank design bureau (KMDB) MD Borisyuk. He was awarded the title "Hero of Ukraine".
Let us recall once again that the ingenious designer of the T-34 tank, M. Koshkin, who did not live up to the start of serial production of his tank because of a serious illness, received by him during the historic run of two tanks on the route Kharkov-Moscow-Kharkov, everything after 50 years, he was awarded the long-deserved title of Hero (posthumously).
Like Koshkin M.I. Potkin V.I. accomplished the feat of self-sacrifice when introducing new tanks into production.
In our deep conviction, all the activities of Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin as the chief designer of the UKBTM in the most difficult 90 years of our country for the survival of the design bureau, Uralvagonzavod, the tank industry, and even its red death, similar to the death of a soldier in the battle to defend the Fatherland, should be commemorated by awarding him the title "Hero of the Russian Federation" (posthumously).

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich!
We are veterans of UKBTM, participants of all the work carried out under the leadership of Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin, we petition for the award of the title “Hero of the Russian Federation”.

We ask to support our petition by awarding this highest rank to Russia to a person who, with his whole life, gave an example to young people how to love their homeland.

An urgent solution to this issue is necessary to perpetuate the memory of Vladimir Potkin, an outstanding tank designer of Russia on the anniversary of his 75 anniversary.

Sincerely,
veterans of UKBTM

(Total 160 signatures. The list is attached. The original is kept in the archives of the UKBTM OJSC Veterans Council)









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  1. zart_arn
    zart_arn 7 October 2013 12: 23 New
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    In Soviet times, it was not necessary to intercede for such people, rather, on the contrary, the appearance of such a petition would have caused a stellar fall among the braked generalists.
    1. yan
      yan 7 October 2013 12: 34 New
      56
      Absolutely agree. It is a shame that for such PEOPLE it is necessary to intercede
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 7 October 2013 18: 51 New
        25
        He would have a monument in the square, but the name of the street except Hero. Let the people remember
        and proud.
        1. vezunchik
          vezunchik 13 October 2013 19: 03 New
          +1
          And the names of the Yeltsin and their minions who have collapsed the Soviet Union to remove from our streets ...
      2. AVV
        AVV 13 October 2013 19: 55 New
        0
        And the city should be named in honor of this great man !!!
    2. domokl
      domokl 7 October 2013 14: 23 New
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      Alas, many of the Soviet times did not receive well-deserved awards for various reasons. But the main thing in the appeal is the collective’s demand.
      We are used to the fact that ordinary people, simple engineers and workers are cool towards management. And this is an example of a completely different kind. People cannot be fooled or bought. Putin should consider this issue.
      Moreover, I allow myself, although I have never worked at this enterprise, to propose to consider at the general meeting or other governing body of the enterprise the issue of assigning Potokin to the enterprise. A great deal will be done.
    3. Bezarius
      Bezarius 7 October 2013 14: 24 New
      0
      Yes, for this you need to deprive not the stars, but the head.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 7 October 2013 19: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: zart_arn
      In Soviet times, it was not necessary to intercede for such people, rather, on the contrary, the appearance of such a petition would have caused a stellar fall among the braked generalists.

      I think in Soviet times we would simply not know who he was. He didn’t regret the ranks and awards for sure. Who remembers the appearance of the Queen on the podium of the Mausoleum. Then it’s not even clear who it was and for what such a merit.
    5. Very old
      Very old 7 October 2013 20: 06 New
      +6
      Add the signatures of all members of the forum in Vl.
      1. alone
        alone 7 October 2013 20: 21 New
        10
        Ramzan is the hero of Russia, and for such a person you have to write an open letter.
        mdaa. Well, where is the justice?
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 7 October 2013 23: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: Old very
        Add the signatures of all members of the forum in Vl.
        - it is not clear why this issue was not resolved during the first month, when Kholmanskikh made a dizzying career on only one expression of desire to "deal with marsh hamsters"? To understand fists with swamps is, of course, a noble cause, but, as it seems to me, this is a matter to properly evaluate the merits of a great designer, who saved a team of thousands of tank builders from a difficult share and literally saved the country's defense capability in a difficult year. less noble. Well, let the Plenipotentiary of the President address this issue - it’s at least good.
  2. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 7 October 2013 12: 27 New
    34
    Honored title, support.
    GLORY TO THE HEROES!soldier
  3. smel
    smel 7 October 2013 12: 27 New
    25
    I AM FOR. I believe that the question raised is absolutely correct
  4. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 October 2013 12: 35 New
    34
    As you know, all rubbish like Gorbachev or some kind of Kobzon is awarded about once and during life, and people on whom the country's defense is held can be noticed only after death and when writing a petition, what a shame!
    1. vadson
      vadson 7 October 2013 12: 44 New
      +4
      as they say se la vie in russia. Unfortunately
      1. honest jew
        honest jew 7 October 2013 12: 50 New
        14
        Officials in Russia recall their heroes either when the homeland is in danger or when May 9 is on the nose !!!
  5. aud13
    aud13 7 October 2013 12: 51 New
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    But in the press they report that the former Chief of the General Staff Makarov was given the title Hero of Russia by secret decree. Despite the fact that for his entire service, judging by his biography, he did not participate in any real clash - unprecedented heroism is obtained.
    Together with Serdyukov, they "reformed" the Russian army.
    Something here in the awards is wrong ....
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 7 October 2013 14: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: aud13
      Despite the fact that for all his service, judging by his biography, he did not participate in any real clash - unprecedented heroism is obtained.
      Together with Serdyukov, they "reformed" the Russian army.

      Well, you need to be seen as a hero in order to reform!
      I will look forward to hearing from ... the Government of the Russian Federation to this application!
    2. uyrii67
      uyrii67 8 October 2013 06: 48 New
      +1
      NOT SO "DO NOT REFORM" AND FORMAT
  6. Russ69
    Russ69 7 October 2013 12: 53 New
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    The man who created in the 90s retained production and more than one, taking into account allies, unlike most dragging everything to the right and to the left.
    More than worthy of the title of Hero.
  7. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 7 October 2013 12: 55 New
    +8
    Deservedly!!
  8. dropout
    dropout 7 October 2013 12: 58 New
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    In addition to the fact that a well-deserved honor will be given to a talented person who put his life on the altar of service to the FATHERLAND, the act of conferring the title of HERO on him will be of great importance in educating our youth. Of people You can grow real patriots.
  9. tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 7 October 2013 13: 08 New
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    I will tell you more - we have not yet realized all the merits of Vladimir Ivanovich. But now there is very little time left to take a look at our recent history from the current point. It will be a terrible sight, awareness and comparison of this person and others like him.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 7 October 2013 20: 11 New
      +3
      I'm afraid his merits to Russia can not stand any comparison with the exploits of Kadyrov, Makarov and the like
  10. sven27
    sven27 7 October 2013 13: 17 New
    +7
    The country must know its heroes! Medal to the studio!
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 7 October 2013 18: 48 New
      0
      No no. There will be "two boxes" as always laughing
    2. DJEIN8
      DJEIN8 8 October 2013 18: 18 New
      +1
      seven27
      Stop drinking ... have respect for the DISCUSSED ..... medal ... studio .....
      and bring along sergey261180 with his boxes and a moronic emoticon (in this
      case) ........
  11. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 7 October 2013 13: 30 New
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    I read on the internet.

    It would be nice to also make our contribution to this open letter of UKBTM:
    For example: add the number of pluses to this article as Public Opinion Forum Site Military Review.
    Just a suggestion.
    Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin deserves more than they can offer "official award rules"...

    He is a HERO of RUSSIA.

    With deep respect ...

    Opening of the memorial plaque in Nizhny Tagil:
  12. Asgard
    Asgard 7 October 2013 13: 30 New
    11
    I don’t know what about the awards, but US with you, we must remember the Man ...
    And do not forget in our hearts, that's the main recognition ....
    To remember and remember ....
    My old men told me: “Graves are the hills of the earth, and they are called upon to awaken the memory with their roughness in People with a short memory,
    And Real People keep the Images of People in their hearts - this is a reward and help to those who left ...
    And those who store ....
    What were the people !!!!!
  13. individual
    individual 7 October 2013 13: 36 New
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    Why the system is against rewarding People's Hero?
    Yes, because those who brought down the economy and production in Russia are still in power.
    To argue with “effective” managers, the red director did a thing that was not encouraged by foreign consultants and their local anti-people puppets in government.
    1. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 7 October 2013 14: 37 New
      +7
      But this system was unanimously FOR, when Kadyrov was given the hero of Russia. They probably knew why.
  14. Breeze59
    Breeze59 7 October 2013 13: 45 New
    11
    The letter has only recently been written. It remains to wait for an answer. I put my signature in support of the merits of a talented person for the good of the Motherland.
  15. user
    user 7 October 2013 13: 46 New
    +8
    Normal story, man not from this team
  16. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 7 October 2013 13: 48 New
    +7
    I wonder how GDP will react
    1. military
      military 7 October 2013 14: 33 New
      +6
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      I wonder how GDP will react

      I won’t be especially surprised if in any way ...
  17. intsurfer
    intsurfer 7 October 2013 14: 03 New
    10
    There are many more such real HEROES OF RUSSIA. Only they do not run for awards and titles ...
    1. DJEIN8
      DJEIN8 8 October 2013 18: 43 New
      0
      intsurfer 14:03 ..... Tired of already ....... How many of you are SUCH ....?
      Trying to exalt one (how many HEROES are there, how are you trying to imagine ???,
      probably would live now for a friend ...) stipulate others ....
      .. HE .., too, did NOT RUN for awards ... but did BUSINESS ...
      People from RESPECT FOR HIS WORK, and MORAL RESISTANCE, from the desire to remain
      THANKS to descendants and followers CALL for JUSTICE ...
  18. mirag2
    mirag2 7 October 2013 14: 33 New
    +4
    Of course he deserves, what has not yet been awarded is an omission.
    1. alone
      alone 7 October 2013 20: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: mirag2
      this is an omission.


      for me it's a crime, not an omission
  19. kaktus
    kaktus 7 October 2013 15: 25 New
    +3
    Quote: intsurfer
    There are many more such real HEROES OF RUSSIA. Only they do not run for awards and titles ...


    maybe not quite in the subject

    Not only wise people and heroes,
    give praise and glory to the poet:
    not only the sage was in a mountain of racks,
    not only the hero loved his land.

    HERO-GLORY, WISE-HONOR!
    But isn't he worthy of praise
    whoever plows the land, cattle herds,
    erects non-sophisticated buildings?

    After all, every worker, like Prometheus,
    accomplishing a modest feat little by little
    becomes involuntarily equal to god
    pleasing people with warmth and light.

    May there be a life of good, may the sun shine
    to all the workers of the world! May be,
    to help them, the sage lives in the world,
    hero - so peaceful work to protect them!

    Kaysyn Kuliev, national poet of Kabardino-Balkaria
  20. iConst
    iConst 7 October 2013 16: 07 New
    +3
    I have a double opinion. On the one hand - it is necessary to note the work, on the other - there are not so many real heroes. In the "heroes" - the swindlers, "popping up" the stars by hook or by crook. Find such in the internet is not difficult.

    I will never believe that a general who does not have enough two chairs for his rear can be a "mighty" worker on the invisible front. Mb units.
    Whenever I dealt with obese people, these are extremely ineffective people. And as leaders and as performers. With the rarest exception. These are people with "bouquets" of disease.
    And really worthy stand in this row. It's a shame, disgusting ...
  21. v53993
    v53993 7 October 2013 16: 27 New
    +5
    Or maybe our government has a limit on conferring the title of Hero of Russia? So deprive this title of Makarov (former chief of the General Staff) and justice will be restored twice.
  22. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 7 October 2013 17: 16 New
    +3
    Colonel-engineer Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin has earned recognition! I join the authors of the letter! It is a pity that other people were awarded awards without popular support. Kadyrov’s star, but the order of Gorbatov.
  23. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 7 October 2013 17: 18 New
    +8
    "The heroism of ordinary soldiers." 1.08.13.in VO. Blarneysky D.K. and his fighters, too, were "unworthy." Let me remind you, saving fighters killed 23 out of 27 fighters.
  24. gara_doc
    gara_doc 7 October 2013 17: 25 New
    +1
    Low bow and respect for many generations! May God be heard above.
  25. patriot2
    patriot2 7 October 2013 17: 38 New
    +1
    Whether or not they hear their people above, I don’t know. I know one thing - Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin is a national Hero, a true PATRIOT of Russia.
  26. Black
    Black 7 October 2013 17: 39 New
    +3
    Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin memory and low bow. He deserves the highest awards of the motherland. But every year in the award hall is half the "clowns" ..
    (But the data of the passports of the respected UKBTM team laid out for everyone to see is superfluous !!! Moderators should remove nadot.)
  27. malikszh
    malikszh 7 October 2013 17: 41 New
    +1
    GDP, I consent to the assignment of the title of Hero.
  28. saag
    saag 7 October 2013 17: 42 New
    0
    If he rewards, then by the year of commercials by 2018, unless of course the cart with apples turns upside down
  29. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 7 October 2013 18: 10 New
    +2
    Hero of Russia Shoigu Sergey .. for what? Hero of Russia Kadyrov? for what? Russian hero Makarov ... for what? .....
    1. alone
      alone 7 October 2013 20: 24 New
      +2
      laughing you can still go on and on)) but you know why? for personal loyalty
    2. malikszh
      malikszh 7 October 2013 23: 05 New
      0
      There is something to not be smart.
  30. wax
    wax 7 October 2013 18: 32 New
    0
    All this is good, but why put people’s passport data on the Internet ??? By the way, now it smacks of criminality.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 7 October 2013 18: 53 New
      0
      By the way, now it smacks of criminality.
      Not by criminality, but by administrativeism Article 13.11 of the Code of Administrative Offenses.
  31. maklaut007
    maklaut007 7 October 2013 18: 40 New
    12
    Hero of Russia Shoigu Sergey .. for what? Hero of Russia Kadyrov? for what? Russian hero Makarov ... for what ?.(c) So today there are two Russia. In one traitors, murderers, thieves awarded orders and medals. They dream of finding curators overseas or at least in China, they are ready to destroy the entire economy and sell off all resources, and make children toys of pedophiles and pederasts. Well, in another, the Russians survive under the conditions that the former created, while at the same time resisting the destruction of Russia, give birth and raise children in love for their homeland and their willingness to protect it, create new technologies and industries, believe that Russia will not collapse, that the smelly wit of betrayal will subside. And they die. Only unlike the first, they are reborn again and again. Therefore, Russia will not scanty with talents and patriots. It is not the first time that Russia has been betrayed by it, I can not say sons, GEORGE, without a tribe and clan. We will stand now. Bright memory Vladimir Ivanovich PotkinAnd a speedy return. Russia needs loyal sons and daughters.
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 7 October 2013 20: 20 New
      +2
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ hi
  32. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 7 October 2013 18: 42 New
    +5
    Well done veterans, poked our nation with an nose into unpaid debt, to its real citizen - a soldier and worker, like a “Lefty” to the last breath, rejoicing for the good of the Motherland and undeservedly forgotten, like hundreds and thousands of other real sons of Russia. Eternal memory and glory to Vladimir Ivanovich.
  33. Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 7 October 2013 19: 10 New
    +4
    Sure, designers deserve respect and awards, but I want to pour a barrel of tar in a spoon of honey in the contents of this article. Thanks to the intrigues of the Urals, the Russian Government relied only on the T-90 (modification of the T-72), and the design bureaus and the plant in Omsk on gas turbine tanks (T-80UD, the promising Black Eagle tank, etc.) were stopped. Because of this decision, competition in the tank industry of Russia has disappeared, and this leads to stagnation. Now the plant and design bureau in Omsk eke out a miserable existence, in the form of orders they receive crumbs from the master's table of the Urals - they are engaged in repair and modernization of used armored vehicles from the strongly (un) developed countries of Africa and Asia. As a result, we have not had a new tank in the Russian Armed Forces for more than 20 years.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 7 October 2013 20: 17 New
      +1
      I also have to thank Lenya Polezhaev, by the way why has he still not been given the star of the Hero? because he worked so hard, so tried for the sake of his native Omsk man, that not only Transmash in the corral
  34. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 7 October 2013 21: 08 New
    -9
    But does he need it? the signatures were collected and written with one hand, put up a monument, name the street or assign his surname to the tank museum, and so in what I did I don’t see anything heroic - it was his job, why make this noise?
    1. George
      George 7 October 2013 22: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      But does he need it?

      This is not necessary for the dead, it is necessary for the living.
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      , and so in what he did, I don’t see anything heroic - it was his job

      In your opinion, so the awards are generally canceled?
      Everyone does their job, only someone makes it better, better, with all their souls, not sparing their strength.
      Slam to you.
      I support the initiative with both hands.
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 7 October 2013 23: 06 New
        -5
        I’m talking about the title and gave examples of how to perpetuate the memory, unlike others, and the title of the hero of Russia is so-so as Russia itself
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 8 October 2013 02: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: soldier's grandson
          and the title of the hero of Russia is so-so as Russia itself

          and you, probably the grandson of a fascist soldier, or just; - a pig miscarriage.
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 8 October 2013 09: 00 New
            0
            for these words you'd be in my dust, suck
            1. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 8 October 2013 21: 58 New
              0
              Quote: soldier's grandson
              if you were lying in the dust

              Zh-and-d-e-n-o-k, whether I lay or not, a big question. You are sitting in shit and shit splashing and on this from you floppy stinks a hundred miles.
              1. soldier's grandson
                soldier's grandson 9 October 2013 23: 25 New
                0
                get used to the earth it is useful to you
        2. DJEIN8
          DJEIN8 8 October 2013 19: 13 New
          0
          grandson of a soldier 23:06
          a soldier’s “grandson” can write this, but a SOLDIER’s grandson ... ??? ...
          Bred behind the merit of others ...... Change nickname Do not disgrace ...
  35. akm8226
    akm8226 7 October 2013 22: 14 New
    +3
    Please consider my plus in this article as my signature for conferring the title Hero of Russia to V.I. Potkin.
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  37. Grif
    Grif 8 October 2013 05: 39 New
    0
    Soviet man! That says it all.
  38. 123_123
    123_123 8 October 2013 08: 35 New
    +1
    Here the same problem is revealed as throughout Russia. It all depends on parasitic officials, Kadyrov does not know why they give the title of Hero of Russia, they supply Chechnya with Russian money to the detriment of other regions ... it is not clear who won the war - why are Chechnya paid more than the rest ??? And the workers who have devoted their whole life to their homeland have to wait, will be rewarded with dignity or the leadership will forget (((It turns out, it’s better to run around the mountains with an automatic rifle, harm the state, to which everyone is obliged, and then get over and get money and honor than work for the good to death your country?
  39. both s69
    both s69 8 October 2013 10: 21 New
    +1
    In life, after all, the same thing happens: those who "carry" the load of their duties slowly and without bulging out, initially performing everything "in good conscience", the bosses seem to not notice. And as a rule, she notices one who drinks hard, drives the marriage at work, carries black ink with his tongue and pen, runs around the mountains with a machine gun, and so on, and then “somehow corrects himself” - like that: all regalia in hand ! He - well done, "corrected" after all. Only now is such a person really correcting himself, or mimicking (as I think with Mr. Kadyrov), under a situation convenient for himself - that’s the question! sad
    Although I want to believe in light, but life ... winked
  40. maj12345
    maj12345 11 October 2013 18: 55 New
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    But look at what Heroes we have now: Kadyrov Ramzan Akhmatovich
    05.10.1976 -
    Hero of Russia

    Dates of decrees
    1. 29.12.2004 Medal No. 839 !!!
  41. Nitarius
    Nitarius 12 October 2013 20: 01 New
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    AND WHY IF ON THE SITE TO COLLECT SIGNATURES THAT A STREET HAS BEEN SIGNED IN EVERY CITY ??
    AUTHORS OF THE SITE --- CAN YOU START TO GATHER SIGNATURES ????? make a VOTE!
    I THINK MANY SUBSCRIBE:
    Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin
    Arkady Georgievich Shipunova