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Nobel Prize Snobbing

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In recent years, almost every award of prizes established by Alfred Bernhard Emmanuelevich Nobel (and even more so - the Bank of Sweden Prizes in memory of Nobel, usually referred to as Nobel Prizes in economics), is accompanied by heated discussion: are the Nobel committees right and should you pay attention to their solutions.


According to my observations, the Nobel Prize in the exact sciences still retains a fairly high reputation. Basically - because it is awarded, as a rule, for achievements long enough for their value to prove progress. stories science. This is contrary to the idea of ​​Nobel himself, who wanted to provide young promising scientists with the opportunity to continue their own research, but at least does not compromise the Nobel Committee with prizes for dummies. Although there are scandals here. For example, in 2009, the year when the Nobel Prize was awarded in advance to the newly elected President Barak Hussein Barak-Husseinovich Obama, there was a scandal with a biology prize.

As for the advance - the fact that the nomination of candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize ends either on January 31, or February 1. Obama, as you know, took office - like any American president since the days of Franklin Delano Ramevelt Jamesovich - from January 20 (before that - from March March 4). That is, he did not have time to do anything for which he could receive an award, and was awarded only for election promises.

And in biology it was fun too. In 2009, they awarded the Nobel Prize to three biologists who experimentally confirmed the theory of Alexey Matveevich Olovnikov, developed on the basis of Leonard's experiments [alas, I do not know the middle name] Hayflick. Hayflik found in 1960-e years: the cells of quite complex animals (including humans) are divided 50 ± 20 times, and then either cease to divide, or turn into malignant ones. Olovnikov at the beginning of 1970-x explained this by the exhaustion of telomeres - the end segments of the DNA molecules, to which the molecules of enzymes that copy DNA are attached. This theory opens the way to the unlimited extension of the controlled divisibility of cells - that is, in essence, eternal youth. Moreover, both Hayflik and Olovnikov are alive, but no one has thought to award this prize to them. That is, the prize was given for secondary work in the presence of an incomparably more important primary one. But it's still for the exact sciences exception to the rule. But for humanitarian awards - this has long since become the rule.

Prizes for literature award, to put it mildly, in a strange way. Suffice it to recall that the first to get it was the not too famous even in those years, the lyric poet Rene Armand Francois Sullich Prudhom (he signed by Sully-Prudhom), although in the same years they created giants like Lev Nikolayevich Tolstoy who never received it (according to one legends, he even privately warned the Nobel Committee that he would refuse it if awarded, and (if the Scandinavians award the prize) Henrik Juhan Knudovich Ibsen. Today, lovers of elegant literature can easily name many dozens of writers, undoubtedly undeservedly overlooked by the prize, and dozens of equally undeservedly awarded it.

And peace awards have long been a source of jokes. For example, for advertising a deliberately false greenhouse theory of global warming, whose error was experimentally proved by Robert Williams Robertovich Wood as early as 1909, they could not give a prize in physics or chemistry - they gave a peace prize. I'm not talking about such miracles as the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Muhammad Abd ar-Rahman Abdel-Raufovich Arafat al-Kudwa al-Husseini, known primarily for the fact that he developed the technology to seize passenger planes as hostages. Or Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev - whose services to the West, of course, are great and indisputable, but from the point of view of the ruined and betrayed Union of Soviet Socialist Republics to them, he deserves a public trial, followed by life imprisonment, for it is not enough for him.

So the reputation of the Nobel Prize, to put it mildly, is far from ambiguous.

Strangely enough, the reputation of its opposite is also ambiguous - the Ignobele (from ignorantia - ignorance) award. We often call it "Shnobelevskaya". As far as I remember, this word was invented in Soviet times by the well-known humorist and the first winner of the Crystal Owl of the “What? Where? When? ”Nurali Nurislamovich Latypov (we are familiar with 1985.05.31, and we regularly and diversely cooperate with 1995.09.06). But it became popular only when we began to regularly publish information about the award of the Ignobele Prize. The reputation of the prize is difficult because it is awarded not only for, so to speak, junk research - in its statute it is written that it is awarded for research that makes you laugh first, and then think.

A scientist, starting a study, basically cannot know what his results will be. Actually, if he knows, then there is no need to investigate. I have already cited the example of two people who have been awarded both prizes. These are our compatriots Andrei Konstantinovich Geim and Konstantin Sergeevich Novoselov. They first received the Ignobel Prize for researching levitation of frogs in a magnetic field. It seems to be funny? But research on the levitation of objects in a magnetic field is a very serious line of research. The end result of this direction, in theory, should become a train on a magnetic cushion - this is undoubtedly an important and useful matter. And the fact that research was done using readily available laboratory material, which at that time was at hand, is an entirely normal approach for the researcher. First, to work in a hurry with what you have to avoid messing with the order of some complicated things, and only then - when the primary results show at least something - think about the direction in which to work further. Another study, for which they received the Nobel Prize, began with the fact that they rolled on a sticky tape pencil pen. The lesson also seems to be not very meaningful - but during this lesson they discovered a new form of carbon - graphene (that is, single layers of graphite). Again, it is not yet known what the merits of this form are in comparison with the previously known ones, but it is already clear: the prospects for the use of graphene in various branches of technology are very extensive. In general, it is clear: the very fact of the existence of such a form of carbon is completely impossible to predict in advance - not to mention the fact that in advance, even before the start of research, to predict its possible use. Therefore, in fact, there are studies that make you laugh first, and then think. The Ignobele Prize is not at all as funny as its authors themselves think. Not without reason, they have to supplement the process of awarding the prize with various, so to speak, external jokes, because the internal humor of the situation is not at all enough to consider this award uniquely ridiculous.

I think if this goes on like this, then the Nobel Prize may soon become completely anecdotal, while Ignobel’s will be taken much more seriously than they are now. But even if it remains the subject of jokes, then it will be precisely those jokes, at which they laugh at first, and then reflect.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 October 2013 14: 59 New
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    everyone has long known that Nobel Prizes are politicized to disgrace. but I read Wassermann with pleasure, I like how he sets out good
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 7 October 2013 15: 09 New
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      Yeah. What is the Nobel Peace Prize ...
    2. Genur
      Genur 7 October 2013 21: 57 New
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      The Nobel Peace Prize is an indiscriminate whore. After Gorbachev and Obama, you can give her with a pure heart even Dracula
      From the site http://www.inpearls.ru/
  2. volcano
    volcano 7 October 2013 15: 00 New
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    In fact, all these international institutions, like actions, are not worth a damn.
    What is UN, what is Nobel, what are beauty contests. etc, etc ... all this is a complete politicized nonsense designed to solve the various problems of a handful of initiators. Both political and economic, and even military.
    This is such a world circus that has long been produced not by MIRACLE, but by golem tricks.

    Another is strange. It seems everyone sees and everyone understands.
    Only now they continue to buy tickets ..... Strange
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 7 October 2013 15: 27 New
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      volkan (3) RU Today, 15:00 New
      Another is strange. It seems everyone sees and everyone understands.
      Only now they continue to buy tickets ..... Strange

      Not everyone understands, but most do not care. There is no other alternative; no other reality has been created. There was Christian Russia, the tsar-father, and that's all, it is not. The domes themselves were beaten down; this is how an enemy of human beings can lead people by the nose when there is no faith, when they have departed from Christ. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. The builders of communism damn it. What have you come to? As Christ said: "He who does not gather with me, he is wasting." And so it turned out, they remained with a broken trough. Now we are snubbing slowly, it is not clear where the curve will take it.
      Here is the result of the Soviet propaganda of alcohol, a single liquid currency, the commonplace of vodka. A man is afraid to name the address.
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 7 October 2013 16: 30 New
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        Quote: shpuntik
        The domes themselves were beaten down; this is how an enemy of human beings can lead people by the nose when there is no faith, when they have departed from Christ.

        No one has departed from Christ, I do not want to start an endless debate, but you will recall Russian fairy tales and how the attitude to priests is shown there. It was the dominance of church ministers that led to the exclusion of the people from the church, but not from faith. And together with poverty and the dominance of kulaks, this led to the success of the 1917 revolution.
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 7 October 2013 21: 07 New
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          DEfindER RU Today, 16:30 ↑ New
          No one has departed from Christ, I do not want to start an endless debate, but you will recall Russian fairy tales and how the attitude to priests is shown there.

          Well, hello, they sailed :-) How did nobody leave? Who chopped the icons? Only Schwonder alone, no one helped? And I do not want to start a dispute, it is a personal matter for everyone.
          I just want to clarify what I mean by "departing from the faith." At heart, the majority believed that Soviet party bosses secretly baptized children. Many carry the cross. But this is not enough. We are not Protestants, we are Orthodox. There must be a communion of the Holy Mysteries of Christ, according to the word of Christ:
          Art. 56-58 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. As the living Father sent Me, and I live by the Father, so he who eats me will live by me. This is bread coming down from heaven. Not like your fathers ate manna and died: he who eats this bread will live forever.

          This was disrupted during the synodal period. This is how the priest says it: from the 2nd minute:

          By the way, the church recommends that schoolchildren watch Soviet films and cartoons as a model.
          1. DEfindER
            DEfindER 8 October 2013 00: 54 New
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            Quote: shpuntik
            How did nobody leave? Who chopped the icons?

            Well, during the civil war, all sorts of extremist forces came out, maybe they chopped icons. The Bolsheviks are sinful only because they sold them abroad, because the country needed money ..
            Quote: shpuntik
            Soviet party bosses secretly baptized children.

            why, secretly, religion is not prohibited by the constitution of the USSR, my parents all were familiar with baptism, and no one paid attention to this normally. They worked properly, I remember my grandmother regularly went to church, there were a lot of people ..
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 8 October 2013 03: 05 New
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              DEfindER Today, 00:54 ↑
              why, secretly, religion is not prohibited by the constitution of the USSR,

              Well, “secretly” not in the sense of night, it was simply not advertised, when Brezhnev wasn’t particularly poisoned, the next wave of persecution began under Khrushchev. They tried to close the Pskov-Pechersky monastery, Gagarin was “tortured” with a child’s question. If there were still temples in the European part of Russia, then in the Far East grandmothers were baptized in private homes, even priests could not always be found.
              Formally, according to the Constitution, the church was separated from the state, but KGB officers recruited priests, this is a known fact.
              Taunts were at school and at work, many believers did not join the party.
              At least it’s hard for me to imagine a Komsomol leader, and with a cross around his neck. Maybe someone was like that.
              1. Combitor
                Combitor 8 October 2013 05: 01 New
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                <shpuntik Today, 03:05 ↑
                but KGB officers recruited priests, this is a well-known fact.>
                But the priests didn’t for the most part oppose this recruitment.
                A Wasserman well done. A peasant always has a balanced, thoughtful and consistent answer to any question. Scrabble with a capital letter. In addition, delicately holds a neutral position. He doesn’t throw stones at anyone’s garden. Everything is delicate: question-answer. No politics.
            2. Flooding
              Flooding 8 October 2013 12: 48 New
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              Quote: DEfindER
              why, secretly, religion is not prohibited by the constitution of the USSR, my parents have all friends who are baptized, and they normally moved up the ranks no one paid attention to this

              Dear, this is a well-known fact.
              And my sister and I were baptized "secretly."
              Although my father was not an itemist, but a police officer and, naturally, a member of the CPSU.
        2. both s69
          both s69 8 October 2013 07: 35 New
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          What is the dominance of priests? What are you talking about? I do not idealize pre-revolutionary time from a spiritual point of view: there was a lot of superfluous and unnecessary in the Russian Church at that time, but to say that the riot of 17 years occurred solely through the fault of the “priests” is foolish and short-sighted. Look how MUCH sacred and clergy have been repressed during the years of this orgy, how many people have not renounced their beliefs in the face of death! What is it worth, do you think? .. Not to mention the role of spiritual people - missionaries in expanding the borders of the Russian Empire. Call you Alaska with its many Orthodox churches?
        3. Flooding
          Flooding 8 October 2013 12: 55 New
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          Quote: DEfindER
          It was the dominance of church ministers that led to the exclusion of the people from the church, but not from faith

          How is this possible? They didn’t go to church, they prayed at home in the morning and evening. Let's say.
          They did not confess and did not receive communion. Well, now this is a widespread phenomenon.
          And on the great Orthodox holidays they drank a cup at the table?
          Is this your Orthodox faith?
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 7 October 2013 16: 48 New
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      Quote: volkan
      This is such a world circus that has long been produced not by MIRACLE, but by golem tricks.

      Well, it's good that domestic science is not involved in this? In the end, this concert is not out of our pocket ...
      1. Very old
        Very old 7 October 2013 19: 25 New
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        From ours! From our oil (from Azerbaijan) From hundreds of thousands of deaths
    3. aksakal
      aksakal 7 October 2013 23: 50 New
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      Quote: volkan
      etc, etc ... all this is a complete politicized nonsense designed to solve various problems of a handful of initiators. Both political and economic, and even military.
      - and for some reason this bunch of initiators is always the same and consists of members of the same families of Anglo-Saxon and Semitic origin.
      Quote: volkan
      Another is strange. It seems everyone sees and everyone understands.
      Only now they continue to buy tickets ..... Strange
      - monopoly. There is simply no other show, and besides bread, there’s also a hunt to gawk at. It’s like going to a bored movie at the club for the tenth time - and the movie is not interested anymore, when suddenly the girl is malleable? Though in the dark to cuddle. The analogy is complete - while some are staging shows, others are doing strange things under the guise.
    4. Very old
      Very old 8 October 2013 08: 32 New
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      What's so strange, Andrey? "bread and circuses" demanded in ancient Rome. Get.
  3. domokl
    domokl 7 October 2013 15: 03 New
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    Funny article. Shnobelevskaya, it is Shnobelevskaya ... Well done Anatole good
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 7 October 2013 19: 03 New
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      Wasserman is smart. She says things are obvious, but then you start to look at them a little differently).
  4. shpuntik
    shpuntik 7 October 2013 15: 09 New
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    I think if this goes on, the Nobel Prize may soon become completely anecdotal, while Ignobel Prize will be taken more seriously than now.


    Tooting. At first, Europe moved away from Christianity towards secular and tolerant society, then the churches were empty and closed, now pederasty is dancing and celebrating the victory openly, in the streets. Ministers declare their sodomy, not at all embarrassed and establishing the norms of hell. Soon, the Nobel Committee will not sit in tailcoats, but in colorful outfits of transvestites.
    Gayropeytsy, bastards children, all vulgarized.
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 7 October 2013 19: 34 New
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      The Soviet Union also somehow didn’t particularly believe in faith, and atheism was encouraged. And such garbage as it was now in Europe then! So we don’t need to sell opium for the people, faith is a personal affair of every person, and no more.
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 7 October 2013 22: 31 New
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        Max Otto SU Today, 19:34 ↑
        Soviet Union too somehow didn’t really believe in faith, and atheism was encouraged.

        "Somehow not really" - this is when out of 140 thousand clergymen, about 2 thousand remained Khrushchev wanted to show the last priest, did not have time.
        And such garbage as it was now in Europe then!

        I agree that the Union took care of the material. The children were especially fun and well, myself from there. But ... The "Code of the Builder of Communism" is written off from the Gospel commandments, one to one. Only the soul of the immortal is forgotten.
        http://hrist-commun.narod.ru/commun_codex.htm
        http://antimodern.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/moral_code/

        So we don’t need to sell opium for the people, faith is a personal affair of every person, and no more.

        PS This Russian man, Pavel Nikolayevich Sirotin, I brought for comparison. With Anatoly Wasserman. Usually people of his breed, read morning and evening prayers, every day, this is a feature of the Jewish people. Well, you see the result yourself. hi


        1. densh
          densh 8 October 2013 00: 09 New
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          And where does the presentation of the Nobel Prize and religion in Russia and the moral character of the builders of communism. request
          1. shpuntik
            shpuntik 8 October 2013 02: 50 New
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            Maj.
            densh UA Today, 00:09 ↑
            And where does the presentation of the Nobel Prize and religion in Russia and the moral character of the builders of communism. request

            This chain of comments went from my opinion on the causal connection of the fall of the morals of Christian Europe and the politicization of the Nobel Prize, a distortion of its original essence, task.
            And accordingly: the answer to the answer "Otto", about a decent society under atheism (in the USSR), in other words, the unimportance of faith in God, the insignificance of Christianity.
            So I gave an example of the "Code of the builders of communism" as tracing paper and a substitute for the gospel.
            Here, to the topic of "atheism", "to the heap".
            1. Max otto
              Max otto 8 October 2013 09: 55 New
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              Quote: shpuntik

              So you yourself have proved to yourself that faith has nothing to do with it.
  5. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 7 October 2013 15: 43 New
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    Yes, from the time of the “peacemaker” Arafat, this award turned into an insult, and from Obama it finally turned into an insult. I hope the GDP has the wisdom to dissociate itself from it.
  6. Humpty
    Humpty 7 October 2013 16: 06 New
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    After Sholokhov (1965), obtaining NP in literature is a bit of a difficult diagnosis. Non-profit partnership "for peace" is generally a total abuse of common sense.
    1. zennon
      zennon 7 October 2013 16: 46 New
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      After Sholokhov (1965), obtaining NP in literature is a bit of a difficult diagnosis.

      Yes, and that’s enough! One parsnip is worth the hacks. Do you know how many Scandinavians are there? As many as 16! Offhand, at least a couple? By the way, in the 53rd literature winner, you won’t believe it, Winston Churchill!
      1. vahatak
        vahatak 7 October 2013 18: 06 New
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        Have you read Churchill? Why are you so sure that he is a bad writer? No one denied the presence of brains, even enemies.
        1. zennon
          zennon 7 October 2013 20: 48 New
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          Have you read Churchill? Why are you so sure that he is a bad writer? No one denied the presence of brains, even enemies.

          And where did you see that Churchill was bad? I respect him. I read, although fragmentary. Yes, he certainly has a taste. He knew how to express his thoughts. But to be ranked among the great? Did you eat something ! The Swedes decided to raise the figure, and here by the way turned out to be the journalistic opuses of Churchill and his memoirs: very curious in content, but rather boring in stylistic respect to prose. In order to at least somehow emphasize the literary merits of the British ex-prime minister, the Swedish academics also noted his “oratory” in the topic of the award, obviously referring to Churchill’s famous aphorisms. In such a florid way, he was ranked among the great writers.
          1. vahatak
            vahatak 7 October 2013 21: 23 New
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            In principle, I agree with you, you can’t rank him great. It’s just that you wrote “you won’t believe it, Winston Churchill”, so I thought that ...
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 7 October 2013 23: 57 New
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              Quote: vahatak
              but rather boring stylistically prose. In order to at least somehow emphasize the literary merits of the British ex-prime minister, the Swedish academics also noted his “oratory” in the topic of the award, obviously referring to Churchill’s famous aphorisms. In such a florid way, he was ranked among the great writers.
              - in my opinion, to the Russian still does not seem stylistically boring the famous work of this writer called "Fulton Speech". It would be boring - until now, you would not remember. And so - remember almost by heart. Why? I think that this gentleman nevertheless wrote not so boringly.

              If anything, I also really do not like him. Although forced to respect.
              1. zennon
                zennon 8 October 2013 00: 06 New
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                in my opinion, the Russian still does not seem stylistically boring the famous work of this writer called "Fulton Speech

                Well, by heart, a lot of honor. And do not confuse a literary gift with a political pamphlet. Putting Churchill next to Bunin or Kipling is not even funny.
                1. aksakal
                  aksakal 8 October 2013 00: 15 New
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                  Quote: zennon
                  And do not confuse a literary gift with a political pamphlet. Putting Churchill next to Bunin or Kipling is not even funny.
                  - Yes, I do not confuse. In the literature, of course, an ignoramus, but not so much that you would put the gentlemen listed by you in a row. I simply point out that the only noteworthy work of Churchill is precisely the Fulton speech. It even had consequences. lol And everything else from Churchill is even worse, because it did not even have consequences. And even normal people do not know about these many volumes of his fabrications. Wow. laughing
      2. goldfinger
        goldfinger 7 October 2013 19: 02 New
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        Yes, and that’s enough! One parsnip is worth the hacks. Do you know how many Scandinavians there are? Already 16 pieces! Give me a hint at least a couple? By the way, in the 53rd literature winner, you won’t believe it, Winston Churchill! Quote from Zennon.


        A neighbor of Belarus: Pasternak did not read, but I condemn, especially since you, who read him from cover to cover, condemn. To such an extent that you write the name with a small letter. But seriously, reading by people like you is contraindicated. They, scribblers, are all tricks! Whether it’s Petrosyan’s business on TV!
        PS Churchill has wonderful books - World War II, 6 books, World Crisis, Six Day War. Read easily and with interest. Aphorisms know the whole world, except you, of course. Yes, he, pindo.s, you, in fact, do not need.
        1. Very old
          Very old 7 October 2013 19: 40 New
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          Churchill's most famous aphorism: the Iron Curtain He is an ordinary plagiarist - he stole the idea. And whom? Goebbels! Have a look: J. Goebbels. The last entries. Izd. Smolensk. 1993 edited by Dr. A. Galkin. Good goose. Like all Anglo-Saxons. So, Yuri, not a la la. You can open p. 219 - and everything will be clear
          1. goldfinger
            goldfinger 7 October 2013 20: 01 New
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            Quote: Old very
            So, Yuri, not la-la.

            From Minsk. Churchill always respected the Russians and the Russian Empire, I emphasize to the Russians, and the empire. This is not an unfounded statement, but from his books and speeches. And he hated Bolshevism, for which he cannot be blamed, after what the Bolsheviks did with our country. And here, to you, the old one is not very, to the topic.
            “It’s impossible to predict how Russia will behave, it’s always a mystery, more than that it’s a puzzle, no, it’s a sealed secret.” (Translation option: "I can not predict the actions of Russia. This is a puzzle wrapped in mystery, wrapped in a mystery").

            “Only Lenin could lead the Russians out of the swamp where he had led them.”

            “The first tragedy of Russia is the birth of Lenin; the second is his death. ”

            “I thought I would die of old age. But when Russia, which fed the whole of Europe with bread, began to purchase grain, I realized that I would die of laughter. "

            "Russians have always been underestimated, and yet they know how to keep secrets not only from enemies, but also from friends."

            “Russians most admire power, and there is nothing to which they have less respect than military weakness.”

            “We certainly don’t have to go to bow to Soviet Russia or to count firmly on the Russians’ performance. But no matter how short-sighted fools we were, if now, when the danger was so great, we would put unnecessary obstacles in the way of the great Russian masses joining in the matter of resisting the act of Nazi aggression. ”

            “Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.”

            "It was a Russian bear who released guts from Nazi Germany."

            “Russians may seem dumb, sassy or even stupid people, but they can only pray to those who stand in their way.”

            “It is doubtful that any mistake in history could be compared with that made by Stalin and the communist leaders when they, lying on their backs, expected a terrible blow approaching Russia or were unable to evaluate it.”

            "Stalin was the greatest, unparalleled in the world, dictator who accepted Russia with a plow and left it with nuclear weapons."

            “I do not believe that Russia wants war. She wants the fruits of war. ”

            “Fate was not so cruel to any country as it was to Russia. Her ship sank when the harbor was in sight. She had already undergone a storm when everything collapsed. All sacrifices have already been made, all work is completed. Despair and treason seized power when the task was already completed ... ”[about Russia in the period 1916-1918.
            1. Very old
              Very old 7 October 2013 20: 38 New
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              He was always Vali On this USE. And forget to think if YOU are Russian and Slav.
            2. Peaceful military
              Peaceful military 7 October 2013 22: 50 New
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              Churchill always respected the Russians and the Russian Empire, I emphasize the Russians, and the empire.

              Another example of education is the Internet, or a similar test, an ale (find - guess the answer). The absolute abomination of liberalism.foolangry
              As for the personality of Churchill himself, a nee descendant of the famous English families of Churchill and Marlborough, the more terrible Russophobe and racist (fascist) still need to be searched.
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                1. aksakal
                  aksakal 8 October 2013 00: 08 New
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                  Quote: goldfinger
                  Such a wonderful upbringing, demonstrated by YOU, is clearly received in the privileged Mukhorsky ... gateway. "is .... still need to search !!!!" "The absolute abomination of rudeness!"
                  - Well, Nahil Churchill in his "Fulton speech" immediately after the end of World War II as a thank you to the Soviet people for the enormous sacrifices. Therefore, you as an adept of this hamla x a priori rude here forum users. Rude already by the fact that you are a fan of the worst enemy of the USSR.

                  Quote: goldfinger
                  Read easily and with interest. Aphorisms know the whole world, except you, of course. Yes, he, pindo.s, you, in fact, do not need
                  - here I agree with you. Who is interested in this gentleman from a small island? Is the small island itself interesting to anyone? laughing laughing laughing
                  Here you should, as a true Englishman, explode, drool over my computer and for a long time prove that you and your Churchill, not from a small island, but representatives of the GREAT NATION! What are you, gold finder (I don’t know how to comradely, forgive generously) and Sir Winston Churchill - this is power!
                  1. goldfinger
                    goldfinger 8 October 2013 01: 24 New
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                    Well, Nahil Churchill in his "Fulton speech" immediately after the end of World War II as a thank you to the Soviet people for the huge sacrifices made. Therefore, you as an adept of this hamla x a priori rude here forum users. Rude already by the fact that you are a fan of the worst enemy of the USSR. Quote.

                    Yes, you are absolutely right, I do not substitute the second cheek for the boors. Although I do not really accept communication in the style of "he himself is a fool .. k".
                    But, to some, pachyderms, only similar
                    by himself, conversion comes.
                    Rude already by the fact that you are a fan of the worst enemy of the USSR. And this is your passage, already beyond the bounds of common sense. If such obscurantism is not played, I sympathize. Good night.
                    1. goldfinger
                      goldfinger 8 October 2013 11: 37 New
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                      Quote: goldfinger
                      Well, Nahil Churchill in his "Fulton speech" immediately after the end of World War II as a thank you to the Soviet people for the huge sacrifices made. Therefore, you as an adept of this hamla x a priori rude here forum users. Rude already by the fact that you are a fan of the worst enemy of the USSR. Quote.
                      AXACAL.

                      From so terrible, to hysteria for you the so-called "Fulton's speech."I deeply admire and respect the valiant Russian people and my wartime comrade Marshal Stalin. In England - I have no doubt that here, too - they have deep sympathy and goodwill for all the peoples of Russia and determination to overcome numerous disagreements and disruptions in the name of establishing lasting friendship. We understand that Russia needs to ensure the security of its western borders from the possible resumption of German aggression. We are glad to see her in her rightful place among the leading world powers. We salute her flag on the seas. And above all, we welcome the constant, frequent and growing ties between the Russians and our peoples on both sides of the Atlantic. However, I consider it my duty to state some facts to you - I am sure that you would like me to state the facts to you as they appear to me - about the current situation in Europe.

                      From Stettin in the Baltic Sea to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain descended onto the continent. On the other side of the curtain are all the capitals of the ancient states of Central and Eastern Europe - Warsaw, Berlin, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Belgrade, Bucharest, Sofia. All these famous cities and the population in their areas were within what I call the Soviet sphere; all of them in one form or another are subject not only to Soviet influence, but also to significant and ever-increasing control of Moscow
                      .
                      What is seditious here? And what's wrong? But ahead - the executions in Berlin, the uprising in Budapest, the invasion of Czechoslovakia. Do not pretend to be deaf or blind. History has put everything on the shelves. No matter how angry this is. Who wants to fully read the speech of the villain Churchill - double-click, the speech will open.
                      1. chehywed
                        chehywed 9 October 2013 01: 53 New
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                        Quote: goldfinger
                        What is seditious here? And what's wrong?

                        It is not true to continue ...
                        "From what I saw during the war in our Russian friends and associates, I conclude that they admire nothing more than force, and they respect nothing less than weakness, especially military weakness. Therefore, the old doctrine of the balance of power is now unfounded".
                        "There has never been in the history of war that it would have been easier to prevent timely action than one that has just devastated a vast area on the planet. Such an error cannot be repeated. And for this it is necessary under the auspices of the United Nations and based on the military strength of the english community find mutual understanding with Russia. "

                        In this regard, the answer of Stalin:
                        “It should be noted that Mr. Churchill and his friends are strikingly reminiscent of Hitler and his friends in this regard. Hitler began the cause of unleashing a war by proclaiming racial theory, declaring that only people who speak German represent a full-fledged nation. Mr. Churchill begins the war unleashing also with racial theory, arguing that only English-speaking nations are full-fledged nations, called upon to decide the fate of the whole world. German racial theory led Hitler and his friends to the conclusion that the Germans, as the only fully-fledged nation, should dominate other nations. The English racial theory leads Mr. Churchill and his friends to the conclusion that English-speaking nations, as the only full-fledged ones, must dominate the rest of the nations of the world. "

                        Something like that.
                      2. goldfinger
                        goldfinger 9 October 2013 02: 18 New
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                        History does not know the subjunctive mood. What happened happened. No USSR. In many ways, because of the desire of Stalin's faithful comrades-in-arms to “make happy” everyone in the world. Remember Khrushchev, screaming in a frenzy at the UN - "We will bury you!" They nod to the West, but here is a list of undeclared wars of the USSR.
                        Civil war in China: from 1946 to 1950.

                        Fighting in North Korea from the territory of China: from June 1950 to July 1953.

                        Fighting in Hungary: 1956

                        The fighting in Laos:
                        from January 1960 to December 1963;
                        from August 1964 to November 1968;
                        from November 1969 to December 1970.

                        Fighting in Algeria:
                        1962 - 1964 years.

                        Caribbean crisis:
                        1962-1964

                        The fighting in Czechoslovakia:
                        1968 year.

                        Fighting on Damansky Island:
                        March 1969 year.

                        The fighting in the area of ​​Lake Zhalanashkol:
                        August 1969 of the year.

                        Fighting in Egypt (United Arab Republic):
                        from October 1962 to March 1963;
                        June 1967 of the year;
                        1968 year;
                        from March 1969 to July 1972;
                        from October 1973 to March 1974 and from June 1974 to February 1975.

                        Fighting in the Yemen Arab Republic:
                        from October 1962 to March 1963 and
                        from November 1967 to December 1969.

                        Fighting in Vietnam:
                        from January 1961 to December 1974.

                        The fighting in Syria:
                        June 1967 of the year;
                        March - July 1970;
                        September - November 1972;
                        October 1973

                        The fighting in Mozambique:
                        1967 - 1969 years;
                        from November 1975 to November 1979.

                        Fighting in Cambodia:
                        April - December 1970.

                        Fighting in Bangladesh:
                        1972 - 1973 years.

                        The fighting in Angola:
                        from November 1975 to November 1979.

                        The fighting in Ethiopia:
                        from December 1977 to November 1979.

                        The fighting in Syria and Lebanon:
                        June 1982 years
                        Sorinka in a strange eye is more noticeable than a native log.
                      3. Prophetic
                        Prophetic 9 October 2013 14: 41 New
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                        My deeply disreputable shitty friend. Only a complete d *** l could give a similar list of supposedly "unseemly" actions of the USSR. Is it that the USSR is to blame for the fact that China attacked us on the Damansky Peninsula? Is the USSR guilty of suppressing a CIA-organized coup attempt in Hungary? The USSR, it turns out, is to blame for helping S. Korea in the war against the United States? And I don’t say anything about the Caribbean crisis. It would seem that every dog ​​knows who put the world on the brink of nuclear war. But no, there is sure to be a mongrel that will begin to bark from under the fence. The Caribbean crisis, for your information, began with the fact that the United States deployed cruise missiles with nuclear weapons on board in Turkey in 7 minutes. fly from Moscow. And when the USSR decided to do the same in relation to the Evil Empire, the Tan was ready to throw the whole ball on the rags, just to prevent the equality of forces. And so for each item on the list. I didn’t forget even the lying perestroika duck about Khrushchev. In general, I am surprised that there is no WWII on this list when the insidious Russians viciously attacked German planes that peacefully bombed Soviet cities. Yes, bad you gentlemen are preparing, bad. What, money for new manuals is not enough? Do you use all the old twenty years ago? Need to update, update ... I understand the crisis. Go and pay for the posts reduced ... Yes, the life of modern Judah is hard.
                      4. goldfinger
                        goldfinger 9 October 2013 18: 13 New
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                        Concrete brains hardened from reading the Short Course of the History of the AUCPB, you will not break through with a shell. To argue with you is more expensive. Nerve cells are not restored. All the best, half-honored, "non-democratic" interlocutor.
  7. zennon
    zennon 7 October 2013 21: 02 New
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    you, who read it from cover to cover, condemn. To such an extent that you write the name with a small letter. But seriously, reading by people like you is contraindicated.

    I know, I myself will decide what is shown to me. I write with a little girl because he is a small writer. I read of course. His "Doctor Zhivago" is like potatoes without salt. Seriously consider this writing as "a significant achievement in modern lyric poetry", and they could give the Nobel Prize “for the continuation of the traditions of the great Russian epic novel”, they could only for politics and only at the turn of the 60s. However, you don’t understand this. Appeal to you, in contrast to you, is capitalized. Until now.
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 7 October 2013 22: 00 New
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      Quote: zennon
      you, who read it from cover to cover, condemn. To such an extent that you write the name with a small letter. But seriously, reading by people like you is contraindicated.

      I know, I myself will decide what is shown to me. I write with a little girl because he is a small writer. I read of course. His "Doctor Zhivago" is like potatoes without salt. Seriously consider this writing as "a significant achievement in modern lyric poetry", and they could give the Nobel Prize “for the continuation of the traditions of the great Russian epic novel”, they could only for politics and only at the turn of the 60s. However, you don’t understand this. Appeal to you, in contrast to you, is capitalized. Until now.

      Wow! Even the commas remembered where to put, though not everywhere. In addition to Doctor Zhivago, Pasternak is an excellent poet, read, maybe you will find salt. And he received the Nobel Prize for his "contribution to world literature." And “you” with a little one - you’re already a scholar. You have angered me with amiconia with the classics. It's like Khlestakov - "Well, brother, Pushkin? Do you write everything?" And read Churchill, especially the Second World War, in my opinion, the most profound memoirs about the Second World War. Happily.
      1. Very old
        Very old 7 October 2013 22: 23 New
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        Yes. Of course. The deepest. But with what six? - FROM GREAT - British.
        1. goldfinger
          goldfinger 7 October 2013 22: 45 New
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          Quote: Old very
          Yes. Of course. The deepest. But with what six? - FROM GREAT - British.

          Xenophobia and racism, in my opinion, are the worst things. Do you agree?
          “I see in the eyes that I agree” - O. Bender. "12 chairs".
          1. Very old
            Very old 7 October 2013 23: 20 New
            +1
            However, you answered your own question
      2. zennon
        zennon 7 October 2013 22: 44 New
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        And he received the Nobel Prize for his "contribution to world literature"

        No. Here is the wording: “For significant achievements in modern lyric poetry, as well as for the continuation of the traditions of the great Russian epic novel.” About poetry. There was such a piet Nadson. Semen Yakovlevich. Sweetish poems, but crazy popularity. When he died, then his coffin the crowd met at the station. They carried it on their hands. A couple of exalted fools, as usual, opened their veins. Well, everything is as it should be. Well, where is it now? .. There is also a parsnip. Time put everything in its place ... About Churchill wrote above, it makes no sense to repeat.
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 7 October 2013 23: 45 New
          +4
          zennon (3) SU Today, 22:44 ↑
          As for poetry, there was such a pit Nadson. Semen Yakovlevich.


          "Who is between us?
          who do you want to know with ?!
          Too
          my country
          poets beggar.
          Between us
          - that's the trouble -
          Nadson stumbled.
          We will ask
          to him
          somewhere
          on schA! "

          Nadson did not read, but I trust Mayakovsky.
          By the way, Mayakovsky, Yesenin, "Nobel" would have come up. Not to see that nationality.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 8 October 2013 00: 19 New
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            Quote: shpuntik
            Nadson did not read, but I trust Mayakovsky.
            By the way, Mayakovsky, Yesenin, "Nobel" would have come up. Not to see that nationality.

            - for me - I'll go again I read Barkov. This poet is so poet, poet to all poets. And you are that Nadson, Mayakovsky ... Shine. taste, trying to humiliate, right? In my eyes I see that you are trying.
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 8 October 2013 02: 35 New
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              aksakal (1) KZ Today, 00:19 ↑ New
              Shine. taste, trying to humiliate, right? In my eyes I see that you are trying.

              Well no. Just agree with the Zeno, according to Pasternak and Nadson. In the same way, Gumilyov and Akhmatova are “subdivided” in the grandeur of creativity, in my opinion. Block has something worthwhile. But at the same time Yesenin was in the shadows. As for Barkov, there are no comrades for taste and color. His work does not inspire me.
              Regarding the "Jubilee" Mayakovsky - this is "Ode to Pushkin", this is rarely heard from a colleague-poet. This requires honesty and lack of envy. Which Mayakovsky proved. He died by the way, the same at 37 years old. Maybe Stalin did not want to sing? Helped to leave after the "Bath"?
  • Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 7 October 2013 16: 08 New
    +2
    Anatoly, as always, sensibly sets out, well done.
  • Djozz
    Djozz 7 October 2013 16: 21 New
    +1
    And you look who is in the lead in the Shnobelevsky committee, only not Swedes!
    1. Very old
      Very old 7 October 2013 19: 43 New
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      And look to nothing Green paid for greens
  • HAM
    HAM 7 October 2013 16: 28 New
    +2
    Probably Cheburan was given an advance Nobel Prize for the collapse of the United States, there are very visionary figures in the committee.
  • zennon
    zennon 7 October 2013 16: 35 New
    +8
    From the late 50s to the beginning of the 80s of the last century, every third scientific work in the world was written in Russian. Wonder how many of our scientists were nominated for it? It is imprisoned under the English Saxons and Jews.Ugh!
    1. igor67
      igor67 7 October 2013 16: 43 New
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      Quote: zennon
      From the late 50s to the beginning of the 80s of the last century, every third scientific work in the world was written in Russian. Wonder how many of our scientists were nominated for it? It is imprisoned under the English Saxons and Jews.Ugh!

      Joseph Alferov is also a Jew, and what do you think he received the prize in vain? Racist you my friend
      1. zennon
        zennon 7 October 2013 16: 55 New
        +3
        Half Jew. It’s difficult to call Ivan Karpovich Alferov a Jew. So I say how many scientists from the USSR were nominated during these years?
        1. igor67
          igor67 7 October 2013 17: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: zennon
          Half Jew. It’s difficult to call Ivan Karpovich Alferov a Jew. So I say how many scientists from the USSR were nominated during these years?

          It’s not difficult, it’s difficult for me, and he is pure-blooded in halachah, but it doesn’t matter, the person received fairly
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 7 October 2013 19: 31 New
            +7
            Quote: igor67
            He is a purebred halacha

            Halacha in Russia does not work, this is the Israeli gadget. And where Halacha in Russia works, it’s just among the racists. Indeed, they don’t accept others in Jewish schools, and this is 146% racism!
          2. zennon
            zennon 7 October 2013 20: 35 New
            0
            Not difficult

            Is it difficult to call Ivan Karpovich Alferov a Jew?
            1. igor67
              igor67 7 October 2013 20: 40 New
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              Quote: zennon
              Not difficult

              Is it difficult to call Ivan Karpovich Alferov a Jew?

              Born in the Belarusian-Jewish family of Ivan Karpovich Alferov and Anna Vladimirovna Rosenblum. [9] [Matt, let's finish this with racist remarks,
              1. zennon
                zennon 7 October 2013 21: 13 New
                +2
                Ivan Karpovich Alferov, father of Zhores, the purest Belarus! It was about him that I wrote:
                It is difficult to call Ivan Karpovich Alferov a Jew.

                Check the comments! And you’re the master’s labeling ...
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 8 October 2013 00: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: igor67
                Born in the Belarusian-Jewish family of Ivan Karpovich Alferov and Anna Vladimirovna Rosenblum. [9] [Matt, let's finish this with racist remarks,

                ok, Igor67, you will be satisfied
                Quote: zennon
                It is imprisoned under the Anglo-Saxons and the Jews. Ugh!
                - if we add instead of “yes Jews” the phrase “yes Western Jews”? Or "yes Zionists." Ok, let's stop there.
                Just admit that you yourself do not like Jews in Israel. Love only certain Jews - those who adhere to Zionism.
                Well, you don’t really like a Jew - the author of the subject. And we respect. Because it tells the truth. And power, brother, is in truth!
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 7 October 2013 19: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: igor67
        Joseph Alferov

        Jaurès, dear, he is Jaurès, not Joseph.
        1. igor67
          igor67 7 October 2013 20: 50 New
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          Quote: Hedgehog
          Quote: igor67
          Joseph Alferov

          Jaurès, dear, he is Jaurès, not Joseph.

          Eugene, I know that Zhores corrects this iPod himself, it is necessary to follow, but this is not the point why do you reduce everything to nationalism, are you an officer? An article about the Nobel Prize,
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 7 October 2013 21: 32 New
            0
            Quote: igor67
            you all boil down to nationalism

            Well, not just us. Not only! And on the other hand, why not show the true path to the wrong ones? fellow drinks laughing
      3. Very old
        Very old 7 October 2013 19: 48 New
        +8
        But he is not your Jew. We have: Chaplin, Kobzon (whom Great Israel refused a visa to) Wasserman, Gaft, more names? There are a lot of them. But not YOU
        1. igor67
          igor67 7 October 2013 20: 25 New
          -1
          Quote: Old very
          But he is not your Jew. We have: Chaplin, Kobzon (whom Great Israel refused a visa to) Wasserman, Gaft, more names? There are a lot of them. But not YOU

          I don’t care, are you a nationalist? An article about the Nobel Prize, and not who is more Jewish or Russian. Kobzon does not need a visa, between Russia and Israel a visa-free agreement,
          1. Very old
            Very old 7 October 2013 20: 48 New
            +3
            IGOR, once your compatriot gave me: For me, Jews are only those who live in Israel. Game. Absolute. I have more Jewish friends than you. Accept and so on
            1. igor67
              igor67 7 October 2013 20: 57 New
              +2
              Quote: Old very
              IGOR, once your compatriot gave me: For me, Jews are only those who live in Israel. Game. Absolute. I have more Jewish friends than you. Accept and so on

              Maybe because I have many friends here, Russian Ukrainians, Moldovans, Arabs and Jews, so please do not emphasize nationality, I’ll repeat the article not about that. And I also have a Russian wife and Ukrainian mother hi
              1. Very old
                Very old 7 October 2013 21: 15 New
                +2
                Solomon Izrailevich ATLAS, chief cardiologist who fled from Poland (1939), gave me life. I still live and remember
        2. Very old
          Very old 7 October 2013 20: 27 New
          +3
          Israeli marked minus And I do not care
          1. igor67
            igor67 7 October 2013 20: 31 New
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            Quote: Old very
            Israeli marked minus And I do not care

            Yes, I don’t hide it, but Chaplin to you from what side? You better write your attitude to the Nobel Prize, because an article about it,
            1. Very old
              Very old 7 October 2013 20: 51 New
              0
              And from the side that it has long been politicized.
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 7 October 2013 21: 21 New
            +2
            Quote: Old very
            I don't give a damn

            When entering into an argument or conversation with someone, try to keep this in mind

            1. Very old
              Very old 7 October 2013 21: 33 New
              0
              Eugene, tomorrow I will decide upon reflection
    2. vahatak
      vahatak 7 October 2013 18: 09 New
      0
      Before World War II, the Germans received the Nobel Prize most of all. I do not deny that I am imprisoned in the West, but not only in the Anglo-Saxons.
      1. vahatak
        vahatak 7 October 2013 20: 48 New
        -1
        It is evident that someone has problems with the facts. Ah, yeah, I get it. Putin, on the other hand, was not included in the list of candidates for the prize, so Wassverman became more active.
      2. atalef
        atalef 9 October 2013 18: 21 New
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        Quote: vahatak
        Before World War II, the Germans received the Nobel Prize most of all.

        Because their science was ahead of the entire planet. By the way, how many of them (these scientists) of the Future and the real Nobel laureates fled from Hitler (since) were Jews. Einstein, Bor, Sharpak, Chakhanover
        Then, of course, science moved to the United States (it’s just that it was calmer and more financially developing in the war)
        So, this is not surprising

        Quote: vahatak
        why does everyone think that the Nobel Prize is something universal, and the committee is obliged to find and evaluate all the best in science?

        In general, everything is relative in the world. but in relation to the Nobel Prize laureates there was not a single one (I do not consider the Peace Prize. Nobel (myself) did not institute it) of a scientist who would receive it undeservedly. All of them (laureates) are scientists with a capital letter. made a breakthrough in their scientific fields.
        (Again, prizes in literature and the World - I personally would not count).
        by the way
        It is curious that among 17 Nobel laureates of Russia, 8 are Jews.

        Here are their names: B. Pasternak, I. Brodsky, I. Mechnikov, I. Tamm, I. Frank, L. Landau, J. Alferov and L. Kantorovich

        An interesting fact.
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 7 October 2013 16: 44 New
    +2
    The Bank of Sweden Prize * in economics * is the prize for suggesting that in a particular country such and such a model of economic development will be viable in the next few years if the macroeconomic situation does not change. That is, consider this award as a world achievement only with a well-pulled smile.
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 7 October 2013 16: 46 New
    0
    I think if this goes on like this, then the Nobel Prize may soon become completely anecdotal, while Ignobel’s will be taken much more seriously than they are now. But even if it remains the subject of jokes, then it will be precisely those jokes, at which they laugh at first, and then reflect.

    So what's wrong with that? No matter what happens, scientists will amaze or make the world laugh, then they are scientists.
  • kosopooz77
    kosopooz77 7 October 2013 16: 48 New
    +3
    He is handsome, however, as usual. I also forgot to mention the presentation of the Peace Prize to the European Union, this is the peacemaking organization!
  • andruha70
    andruha70 7 October 2013 17: 01 New
    +2
    for some individuals, for some time now, it didn’t matter - the Nobel or the Shnobel ... it became important - how much is in bucks ... request
  • Black
    Black 7 October 2013 17: 27 New
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    Let’s even separate flies from cutlets. One thing is a prize for achievements in science, another for creativity. The first is absolutely, the last is "how Masha will fall." So it was and it will be so.
  • Altona
    Altona 7 October 2013 17: 39 New
    +3
    Since there is only one hegemon left in the world, there is no need to talk about objectivity, international institutions are degenerating and degrading, and the awarding of prizes begins to look like an award-winning brawl between members of the world Politburo ... Well, the Nobel Peace Prize is generally awarded to people who contribute to a Western-type globalization project — the dismantling of states and the outbreak of war in ever new places on the globe ...
  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 7 October 2013 17: 53 New
    +2
    pack plus.

    and the prize is already - bye bye, discredits itself every year
  • vahatak
    vahatak 7 October 2013 18: 14 New
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    Why does everyone think that the Nobel Prize is something universal, and the committee is obliged to find and evaluate all the best in science? This is a private bonus, gentlemen. With the availability of money, any of us can establish such a prize and appoint committee members from people we trust. The Nobel Committee owes nothing to anyone, and we have no right to demand anything from them, because this money is not ours, but of the late Alfred Nobel.
  • individual
    individual 7 October 2013 18: 52 New
    0
    Interest in the Nobel Prize is always high, although the laureates began to criticize it from the first to the last award.
    This intrigue is "deservedly undeserved."
    Humanity has not created above this award. drinks
  • alone
    alone 7 October 2013 19: 08 New
    +3
    after Gorbach, a self-respecting person should not even touch this finger am
  • Humpty
    Humpty 7 October 2013 19: 12 New
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    Quote: vahatak
    Have you read Churchill? Why are you so sure that he is a bad writer? No one denied the presence of brains, even enemies.

    Churchill had doubts about the presence of brains in at least two people, these were his parents. They were afraid, not weak-witted.
    1. vahatak
      vahatak 7 October 2013 20: 52 New
      0
      Facts??? As far as I know, Winston’s mother Churchill herself was engaged in the literary career of her son: publication, distribution, etc. Only his books had a strongly expressed political context and an open anti-communist orientation, and Churchill, the writer, does not like us in our unions.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 8 October 2013 05: 31 New
        0
        Churchill did not learn the school curriculum, his mother was very worried if her son was moronic. By the way, Brezhnev also wrote books ...
        1. vahatak
          vahatak 8 October 2013 12: 27 New
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          In childhood, many have problems, but this does not mean that the person is demented.
          And how Brezhnev wrote books is well known. And you still forgot to say that you received awards (prizes) for these books. Churchill was only nominated. So who is snooping?
  • tomas.09
    tomas.09 7 October 2013 19: 13 New
    +1
    Yes there! The Nobel Prize is based, including on Russian money. Nobels produced oil in Russia, and then Alfred Nobel came up with dynamite, and it drove !!!!
    1. vahatak
      vahatak 7 October 2013 20: 54 New
      0
      It was his personal money, which he earned. if he earned them in Russia, this does not mean that the money belongs to the Russians.
  • lexe
    lexe 7 October 2013 19: 20 New
    +2
    I think if this goes on like this, then the Nobel Prize may soon become completely anecdotal, while Ignobel’s will be taken much more seriously than they are now. But even if it remains the subject of jokes, then it will be precisely those jokes, at which they laugh at first, and then reflect.

    So what? ... it's time to promote the Mendeleev, Tsiolkovsky, Lomonosov, Pushkin and Wasserman Prizes. laughing
    So who put Mendeleev into a dream? Or brought him to it? Maybe a Russian janitor? —He frantically sweeping the street ... or a Russian cabman? —Having out a natural aphorism all over the street ... Or maybe a Russian gendarme? Who trumped saluting the Russian nationalist genius .. .
    And the great mind of Mendeleev calmed down ... quietly plunged into the scientific duma, giving the world another giant step ... awakening from sleep.
    My opinion is that society precedes genius. And at the time, along with another genius, to award and peoples!influenced their mentality and train of thought.
    And it’s not just about the Russian people. It’s just that the Russian people are the clearest example of this.
    And geniuses ... it's just fortune tellers future with frantic intuition ...
    But they need a solid foundation under their feet ... for their divination and not at all new Skolkovo

    But from "science fiction" people always shy away from fortune-tellers.
    But too much of the unknown and interesting is why they get along.
    Pushkin ... only the true patriot of his country and his people can please the Russian soul with such a syllable. Although a rare talent ... but talents are not ordered from the masses of universities, they sprout from within the people. Although I am for dragging the world to the Russian side, without education, it’s no other matter how to teach.
    Well, Wasserman ... Don’t tell me, but his views and thoughts influence our society.
    So in the battle for the progress of mankind, many points of view are useful and good. The main thing is that the natural laws of society should not be violated.
    But if Dmitry Ivanovich Mendeleev were with us today, I think ... he would have suffered Eh! chronic insomnia! laughing
    Very, very sorry ... but you can add other words, of which in Russian over the edge.
    And I want to live in the era of scientific renaissance, based on conservative values ​​and look into the vast expanses of space .. And the rest of the way ... only short-term outbreaks on the way to a dead end.
    Yes ... the dead end is illuminated and hung with signs, the passage is open!
    But where is it open? To the abyss?
    Article +
    1. michajlo
      michajlo 7 October 2013 20: 00 New
      +1
      Good afternoon, Aleksey!

      Thank you for the helpful thoughts and good wishes.
      It would be very useful for more people to think about why we live and why we appeared on Mother Earth.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 7 October 2013 19: 26 New
    +3
    Obama, as you know, took office - like every American president since Franklin Delano James Roosevelt - from January 20 (until then - from March 4). That is, he did not have time to do anything that could receive a prize, and was awarded only for campaign promises

    That's how famous and respected awards go back in time and lose their value!
    1. hrych
      hrych 7 October 2013 20: 09 New
      +4
      This, like the wretch of Khrushchev, began to distribute the Hero of the Soviet Union, to all and sundry - bespantnymi Arabs such as Nasser and Cubans like Castro, although our Heroes of the Great War were not marked, and Brezhnev, as he went crazy, turned this thing into a laughing stock.
      1. Prophetic
        Prophetic 9 October 2013 12: 49 New
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        Well, if anyone deserves a “Hero”, it's Castro. He, as a person and leader, as a fighter, as a politician, as an unsurpassed speaker, is three heads taller than all the Khrushchev and Brezhnev combined. Near by the Evil Empire, having, unlike the USSR, no natural resources, having survived the record number of attempts in the history of mankind, he preserved socialism and did not lie under the United States, unlike us.
  • Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 7 October 2013 20: 47 New
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    Anatoly Alexandrovich is certainly right, as usual. Wasserman is Anatoly Alexandrovich.
  • wanderer
    wanderer 7 October 2013 21: 40 New
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    Onotole is right as always!
    Everything is vulgarized over time, including the Nobel Prize.
  • Arkan
    Arkan 7 October 2013 22: 43 New
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    Vanity, not reason, dominates the choice of the next laureate.
  • darksoul
    darksoul 7 October 2013 23: 41 New
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    Then everything will go so everything will be put on her and there will be a circle of a young naturalist as a UN in its current form
  • Anton Nakhimov
    Anton Nakhimov 7 October 2013 23: 58 New
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    This award has already been discredited, before it was given out for achievements, and not for the presidency ... well, when the winner of the Peace prize climbs his army into Africa, supporting terrorists and murderers fool
  • voliador
    voliador 8 October 2013 00: 01 New
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    The Obama Peace Prize is, of course, that joke too.
  • Igor62
    Igor62 8 October 2013 01: 56 New
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    Quote: Genur
    The Nobel Peace Prize is an indiscriminate whore. After Gorbachev and Obama, you can give her with a pure heart even Dracula
    From the site http://www.inpearls.ru/
  • Rus86
    Rus86 8 October 2013 09: 21 New
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    after reading materials and publications on the site of A. Wasserman, imbued with respect for him. Right RUSSIAN.
  • ysychyov
    ysychyov 8 October 2013 10: 08 New
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    I agree with the author, especially about Gorbochev.
  • svskor80
    svskor80 8 October 2013 11: 01 New
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    Or Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev - whose merits to the West, of course, are great and undeniable, but from the point of view of the devastated and betrayed Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, he deserves a public trial with a subsequent life sentence, because posthumous torment is clearly not enough for him.

    How capacious and to the point. You can’t say better.
  • Pancreas
    Pancreas 8 October 2013 14: 23 New
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    Interestingly, the cash prize of the Nobel Prize is 1,2 million dollars. At that time, the prize pool of the Klitschko-Povetkin fight amounted to 23 million dollars, of which under the terms of the contract, regardless of the outcome of the fight, Klitschko receives 75%. It turns out that scientific achievements cost significantly less than a one-time scuffle, albeit for a world title ???