Military Review

US Army Special Forces

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Americans have always considered their special fighters the best in the world. How true this statement is is quite difficult to answer. And this is not only due to the fact that most special operations operations are not publicly advertised, but also because very few people know which special units are part of the US armed forces.

After the operation to destroy bin Laden, America does not cease to admire its fur seals and other special-purpose units. But while the citizens of America are proud and enthusiastic about the special forces, the costs of financing the Special Operations Command (in short, CSR) are constantly increasing due to a reduction in the budgets of the rest of the country's armed forces. The ranks of the soldiers of CSR are replenishing at a tremendous pace - now there are about 70 thousands of people.

The September 11 attack destroyed in the minds of citizens confidence in the ability of the army and intelligence services to destroy terrorist threats in a timely manner, which have become destabilizing factors in the modern world. The response to the September terrorist attack was a significant increase in funding for CSR - from $ 3,5 billion to $ 10,5 billion. The American military doctrine also underwent some changes - an emphasis was placed on the transition to tactics of local operations carried out by forces of elite units.

One cannot but agree with the arguments of the American military experts that any military operation involving a large number of soldiers is much more expensive than sending a well-trained detachment of fighters at the right time and place. For example, a small group of special forces participated in the operation to destroy the main terrorist bin Laden, and the success of its implementation significantly raised the political rating of Washington in the eyes of other countries, and some, such as Pakistan, also scared.

In addition to Fur Seals, Green Berets and Sea Snipers, the CSR forces also include other, no less significant, special-purpose units.

And in order to judge the possibility of the United States to ensure its own security, to observe the political and economic interests of the country, to eliminate threats to citizens and property located abroad, it is necessary to know about special forces capable of carrying out virtually any orders of the military command and the US Government.

If earlier it was possible to read about pirates in books or to see “hunters for good luck” in films, then in the last decade the revived sea robbery has caused a lot of damage to many world countries, including the USA. Many states had to take measures to protect their vessels from the actions of sea robbers. The formation of a naval anti-piracy unit in the United States was a response to the actions of sea robbers. The US Navy was forced to form a special unit of the best fighters, equip them with high-speed boats and send them to catch pirates.

Each fighter in this unit has the necessary level of decisiveness and aggressiveness in order to effectively repel the sea thugs. And although on the account of the anti-piracy detachment there are not so many military operations, they managed to occupy a worthy place among other teams of special US units.

In their actions, they use the methods and tactics of Fur Seals during the assault operations, they are able to establish defense and security as snipers and infantrymen do, they have the ability to aviation support (there are pilots in the team).

In addition, pirates are not afraid to act in close proximity to the coastline of many states. In this regard, the US CSR ranks joined the Coast Guard anti-piracy units subordinate to the command of the Coast Guard task forces. All fighters of this squad possess the skills of tactical operations on the water. Without fail, they are trained in the United Navy Training Center (North Carolina), which is the base of the marines of the East Coast. Coast Guard Special Forces fighters form part of the rapid response teams when there is a threat of supply through seaports weapons, drugs, and the commission of terrorist acts. All employees of this squad possess knowledge of maritime legislation, methods of countering terrorism, skills for detecting smuggling, search and rescue on waters, are trained in scuba diving, canine (detection of explosives), counter-sabotage activities, combat tactics and search operations.

Currently, the fight against terrorism is the most important aspect of ensuring the security of each of the world’s countries. To enhance the action in this direction are specially trained combat special forces. Thus, the anti-terrorist unit of the US Navy is not super-elite. In its main part, it serves the usual infantrymen. But despite this, they face specific combat missions to deploy and support US embassies and diplomatic missions. Marines trained to monitor the territory, to ensure physical security, to fight in urban environments, possess melee tactics and various martial arts.

A great respect is caused by the country that takes care of its specialists (both civil and military) who are in a difficult situation abroad or behind the front line. And we must pay tribute in this matter to the US Army, which has in its composition a unit to rescue the pilots.

The unit for rescuing US Air Force pilots operates, as a rule, behind enemy lines or directly behind the front line. It requires a lot of experience and professionalism in order to penetrate into enemy territory unnoticed by the enemy in order to save people, including downed pilots. In the special forces, the fighters in the rescue of the pilots are not very noticeable, since their main work is not combat attacks, but secretive penetration and rescue. But even such a “quiet job” implies the possession of the skills that are needed to withstand the armed forces of the enemy, perhaps even significantly superior to the number of fighters in the rescue team. Fighters of the rescue squad are able to wage effective guerrilla warfare, set traps and use tactics of small battles that exhaust the enemy. The staff of the rescue team of the Air Force pilots are trained in parachuting, scuba diving, possess the skills of orientation to the terrain and methods of survival, can provide professional medical care, etc.


It is believed that intelligence exists since the first military clashes. Perhaps the secret services originated about 33 centuries ago. The clever commander tries to use tactical cunning, having deceived the opponent. But this requires knowing as much as possible about the enemy — intelligence, espionage, come to the rescue.

The essence of intelligence activities today is that in a timely manner and in full to obtain and analyze information about possible internal and external threats to society and the state, as well as to take adequate measures to prevent and eliminate these threats. The CIA is one of the most important components in the structure of the US intelligence community. The CIA has its own CIA secret operations department. The unit has a small staff - only a few hundred employees. The task of the team is to solve problematic and controversial tasks. Experienced fighters from the Green Berets, Seals, Delta and Military Intelligence are recruited into the squadron. The secret special operations department works in three directions. The first is overland. It serves experienced experts in the field of intelligence, tactics and strategies of warfare, methods of releasing hostages. The second is sea, and the third is air. The specialists of these units are experienced military personnel who had previously served in the Navy and US Air Force.

The little-known US CSR special unit — the US Air Force Weather Forecasting Unit “casts” a not-so-serious attitude to it — think meteorologists! But in reality, the team is able to influence the outcome of the battle and contribute to the destruction of many enemy soldiers in a single blow. The weather forecasting unit consists of small groups of highly professional specialists who are not only engaged in weather forecasting, but also organize shelling and air operations, as well as provide technical support to ground forces. 300 forecasters, scattered around the world, and provided with the most modern equipment and equipment are at the service of forecasters. Flight units of military meteorologists have at their disposal good aviation equipment. The service effectively uses information from meteorological satellites. American meteorologists collaborate with similar units of NATO member countries.

In 2010, the Spanish air traffic controllers went on strike. Before the situation was settled, military air traffic controllers took their places. And it became clear to all that the military dispatchers are highly professional specialists who are able to take responsibility at the most critical moments. As part of US CSR, there is also a division of military air traffic controllers. These specialists rightfully occupy leading positions among the US military elite. They are considered a separate independent unit, like Marine Intelligence. Military air traffic controllers are not only able to perform the functions of air traffic controllers, but often act as experts on the problems of penetration into the rear of the enemy and as advisors to strike groups, providing air support and coordination of the entire course of the operation. Their responsibility also includes planning bombing and air raids. It is believed that it was military air traffic controllers who played a decisive role in the Libyan revolution. Specialists of this elite unit possess the skills of orientation in combat conditions, they are trained in military dispatcher courses and tactical skills courses, they undergo parachute training and scuba diving training.

In modern war and military conflicts, the importance of front-line intelligence cannot be overestimated. Therefore, the US Navy cannot do without a special front-line intelligence unit of the US Navy. In terms of numbers it is small - only 200 people. When conducting operations on land, the detachment submits to the commander of the marines, and if operating on the water - the commander of the Navy. Because of this “double” submission, the unit often receives very “delicate” tasks. A high level of training is inherent in front-line intelligence fighters, so they are deservedly placed in the same rank as Navy Seals. Here are just a small list of disciplines for which front-line scouts are trained: scuba diving, courses in rescue, survival, and counteraction. The fighters are trained in the Air Force School, Ranger School, Operational Training School, Intelligence School and Orienteering Courses.

The illustrious Marines are part of the US Navy. Its main purpose is to be a striking force in marine operations. The tasks of the marines include the seizure of the coastline and port facilities, enemy naval bases, ships and ships, as well as islands and peninsulas. The marines can attack both from the air (parachute landing) and from the water. Marines also guard coastal and other facilities, including ports and marine bases.

For a long time, these naval special forces served on warships, maintaining a ship’s command in combat, conducting reconnaissance and combat raids on the coastal strip, maintaining order on the ship, defending command from possible command insurrections. Currently, the US Navy Marine unit consists of 200 thousand people.

The regulations for the training of marines include working out quite specific skills associated with the participation in the so-called "three-unit war". The essence of this “war” is the participation of the American armed forces in crisis situations that arise in any region of the world.

In the first phase, army units participate in humanitarian actions and peacekeeping missions. If the situation does not turn out the way the "peacekeepers" plan, they will proceed to conduct direct army operations. This is where fighters of the marines begin to act, who are trained in counterguerrilla actions and the suppression of mass demonstrations, have the skills to conduct operations in wooded areas, in settlements and urban environments. Marines undergo individual sniper and anti-sniper training. During the peacekeeping mission in Somalia, more than a hundred people were killed by US marines, whom the marines considered to be a hindrance to the American mission.

The marines have been trained to pursue and harass entire enemy battalions for a long time. Marines are able to correctly track down the main objectives for army groups and take part in tactical operations conducted by the command. Marines are rightly considered the most valuable unit in the US Navy.

Marine snipers are professionals in the identification of important targets, in the ability to conduct visual observations, carry out reconnaissance on the ground and the ability to covertly penetrate enemy territory and, of course, are all experienced snipers.

Very often, the fur seals come to them for help in difficult situations. Combat snipers are always ready to conduct an operation to rescue their comrades from trouble.

American naval snipers left an “indelible memory” of themselves when eliminating riots on Fr. Haiti. A marines sniper can be an observer reconnaissance, artillery spotter and aircraft gunner, but nevertheless the main duty of a sniper is to aim at the enemy. Priority is given to the following objectives: officers, scouts, dog guides, artillery and mortar crews, observers and observation devices, snipers, personnel and equipment of the radio technical troops, crew members tanks, Armored personnel carrier, command post vehicles. The actions of snipers are designed to provide support to the Marine Corps, conducting accurate fire at the enemy from a long distance.

One of the most famous units of US CSR - Seals are involved in ground and air military operations. They specialize in sabotage and reconnaissance operations. "Seals" are able to act in any conditions, but the fighters are also excellent divers and perform well in the water. As a rule, they are involved in the case when careful intelligence and immediate action is required. Their motto is “The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday” (“The only easy day was yesterday”).

Seal divisions are divided into 8 commands: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8 and 10. The fighters who show good results in the service have the opportunity to upgrade their qualifications in the Naval Special School, to take additional physical training courses.

The 6 team of sea lions is designed to perform “draft” work. It is called "Rainbow 6" ("Rainbow"), because the insignia of the fighters of the team have different colors - red, gold, silver, blue. For example, gray means that a fighter is serving in a boat squad.

It reports directly to the leadership of the CSR and the President. A squad is considered to be a special-purpose task force and performs three tasks:
- The first is the fight against terrorism. The detachment is holding counter-terrorist operations in Afghanistan and other Middle Eastern countries. Often the team takes proactive counterterrorism actions.
- The second is the personal security of important people. For example, the fighters ensured the safety of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, at the beginning of his term.
- The third is special intelligence. The team includes trained snipers. The fighters are trained in conducting intelligence activities, as well as carrying out observation and collecting operational information.

"Seals" together with the "Delta" troops and rangers took part in the operation in Somalia, the invasion of Panama, the military conflict in the Persian Gulf, in Iraq, etc.

And although the fur seals act, most often, on land, it would be strange if there were no experts in conducting military operations under water in it. And there is such a combat unit in the structure of the Navy Seals - the Amphibious reconnaissance unit of the Marine Corps. This team is associated with the Marines reconnaissance battalion. In conducting operations, they operate in conjunction with intelligence and other units of the US Navy. The main objectives of this combat unit are: carrying out a reconnaissance of coastlines, the implementation of hydrographic survey of water areas, the study of protective equipment of coastlines in the landing areas. In 1950, the amphibious battalion was engaged in a preliminary operation in Korea. The success of this operation has saved the lives of many people and ensured that, in the future, more operational planning.

In the organizational structure of the unit of the US Navy there are detachments that perform specific functions. For example, the Marine Corps Division for the induction and adjustment of fire ANGLICO. This special group is always in the shadow of its more popular counterparts - for example, such as fur seals. But this does not become less dangerous for the enemy. The fighters of this special unit specialize in aiming and adjusting the fire, not only artillery, but also any of the attacks of the Air Force. The effectiveness of a combat operation depends on them. As a rule, ANGLICO fighters work in small groups consisting of the following specialists: the team leader, as a rule, is an experienced officer of the Navy, an observer and spotter, a radio operator, a scout and an assistant of guidance.

Fighters of the Marine Corps are involved in operations to free the hostages. To enhance this direction in the structure of the corps there is a tactical detachment for the release of hostages and the protection of objects. The main task of the unit is the protection of naval bases, including those on which nuclear weapons are stored. The fighters of the tactical detachment must pass the courses of snipers and subversive business, possess the skills of close combat. They are able to storm well-protected objects, freeing hostages and returning objects to US ownership. In the combat detachment, the roles are strictly distributed: there are so-called destroyers, penetration specialists, shooters, melee specialists and snipers.

The elite among the elite detachments of the American special forces - a group of sabotage operations ("Delta"). The best among the best special forces. Even fighters of famous Seals dream of serving in this group. Unofficially, the diversionary group is called Delta. The fighters of this unit are always on the first line of any operation. Their professionalism is so great that many compare Delta saboteurs with living gods. Their duties do not include entering into an open clash with the enemy, like the Seals of the Seals, but they are able to carry out the task of command, which other special forces groups cannot do. There are three squads in Delta — A, B, and C. Detachments are divided into small groups of 4 or 5 people. Each group specializes in a specific type of operation: mountains, sea, air, etc. During operations, soldiers have a high degree of freedom and autonomy, may be in civilian clothes, live in the area and try not to attract attention. In the structure of “Delta” there is the so-called “The Funny Platoon”, the purpose of which is the invisible penetration into the territory of the enemy shortly before the start of the operation.

Fighters "Delta" participated in all anti-terrorist operations conducted by the United States in Latin America, the Middle East, Asia. During the war with Iraq, Delta fighters guided American missiles at key Iraqi targets. It is said that it was Delta that first landed in 2001 in Afghanistan.

Twice a year, is selected for a group of sabotage operations. The test can only be carried out by the best special forces soldiers, including Fur seals. Challengers are obliged to take a 18-mile march to throw a 35-pound backpack behind their shoulders at night, go through the rough terrain of the 40-mile route with heavy load and, of course, withstand a tough psychological test. According to the results of tests for physical, psychological and intellectual preparation, the subjects are credited to the squad.

Special Forces "Green Berets" is a well-known, even outside the United States, an elite special forces unit. The first "Green Berets" was a volunteer brigade, created in 1942, and trained in covert tactics. She was later called the Devil Brigade. In 1952, the division was significantly reformed. The main goal of the unit was to conduct a partisan and anti-guerrilla war in any region of the earth. It was then that the green beret became an attribute of this division. The memorandum of this headdress said that he was "a symbol of superiority, a sign of courage, a distinctive mark in the struggle for freedom." Green berets visited many corners of the globe: on the mountain roads of Afghanistan, in Korea and Vietnam, in Kuwait and Iraq ....

Recruits come here from the most prestigious military units, such as airborne troops. Ambitious fighters "Green Berets" opened the way to the special squad "Delta", Navy Seals and Marines.

With so many elite special forces, it is also necessary to have well-trained units to support the operations of elite special forces units. And this role is played by ranger squads, formerly called “black berets.” But in the 2001 year, when berets were introduced everywhere in the American army, the ranger's headdress changed color and became sandy. Rangers follow an obligatory rule - they never abandon their comrades. The headquarters of the ranger corps is located in Fort Benning, GA.

Many young people dream of becoming a real warrior, becoming a ranger. The main task of this special forces unit is to conduct sabotage and intelligence activities. As light infantry airborne troops, they are able to act on the edge of any attack and support such actions as Delta and others by their actions. Rangers have parachute training, are skilled in scuba diving, take courses in survival techniques and medical care, are able to navigate in difficult conditions and in any terrain, have martial arts and combat tactics, and know several languages.

US CSR units have become an integral part of the armed forces of America. And it is precisely their strength, professionalism and unique military skills that Washington is counting on, shaping its military concept that will untie America’s hands and allow it to release the enormous financial resources that are so necessary today for the restructuring of the American economy.

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  1. evgenii67
    evgenii67 7 October 2013 09: 18 New
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    Although the films show which Americans are patriots, they still fight for money, and what will happen if there is no money, or there will really be a 90% threat to die in battle, they might say "to hell with money." There is a funny video about which special forces are better (Soviet maroon beret and American green). The victory in that video was won by Russian special forces.
    1. ReifA
      ReifA 7 October 2013 10: 01 New
      +4
      When there is a battle for your home, for children, women, this is one thing, when they “democratize” someone, this is another. Therefore, the real capabilities of the special forces can most likely be seen in the first, but certainly not in the second ("democratization")
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 7 October 2013 11: 31 New
        +7
        When there is a battle for your home, for children, women, this is one thing, when they “democratize” someone, this is another. Therefore, the real capabilities of the special forces can most likely be seen in the first, but certainly not in the second ("democratization")


        Fulfilling "international duty" disproves your assumptions. Our commandos were heroic (without jokes) in an absolutely similar situation. Although they did not protect any of their houses. The Americans in Afghanistan even had a reason - 9/11, and we had no reason for that. Moreover, how many heroes of our special forces were?
        Although in general, special forces now (in the 2000s) are developing under small conflicts, counter-terrorism is usually not for a large-scale war (in which the protection of your home is required)
      2. honest jew
        honest jew 7 October 2013 13: 11 New
        -36
        If the Russian special forces are so cool, then why did the 2 Chechens lose? As always, waving his fists through the air !!!
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 7 October 2013 13: 57 New
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          I put the minus article ...
          Of course, you need to notice the good, without relatively patriotism and nationality, but I am for realism and objective assessments .....
          Why didn’t they win the Chechen wars? So, after all, “honest Jews” did not allow them to fight)))) then they were completely divorced in the top leadership and the FSB and other law enforcement agencies ...
          By the way, therefore, in 1993 year betrayed the country - Minister of Defense Grachev,
          * Chairman of the Veterans Union of Afghanistan-Klintsevich Franz Adamovich,
          * Taman commander - Evnevich,
          * Commander Colonel Denisov.27th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade (Warm Camp).
          * 106th airborne division. Colonel Commander Savilov.
          * Deputy Secretary of Defense General Konstantin Ivanovich Kobets.
          * 16th Special Forces Brigade. Colonel Commander Silence.
          * 218th Special Forces Battalion. Commander lieutenant colonel Kolygin.
          * Special Forces "Hero". Lysyuk Sergey Ivanovich
          THEY FIRED by their people(from tanks)) and they also lost the Chechen wars)))
          And then the GRU Special Forces disbanded ...
          combat-ready officers fired (GRU)
          Many were killed by Budanov, remember the Yamadayevs (GRU officers) who were killed by the groom of Kadyrov ....
          Khabarov, Kvachkov, Ulman, and a dozen more-are in prison))
          Who I know ....
          Specialists remained and they will once return their homeland to the people.
          And American special forces are not a hindrance to us (no order))

          And we need him to remain Humans ...
          1. klim44
            klim44 7 October 2013 17: 57 New
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            Moreover, the Jews, it seems that in all troubles they alone are to blame.
            Specialists remained and they will once return their homeland to the people. - yeah, only they do not grow younger with time - the usual air shock, we would like to return long ago
            And then the Special Forces of the GRU were disbanded ... - I didn’t guess, they started to disband in the gracious 2 thousandths.
            And the American special forces are not a hindrance to us (there is no order)) - do not boast, there are also no frayers and no cowards. And the exam in the British CAC - more difficult than the exam for the speck will be.
            1. satellite
              satellite 7 October 2013 22: 56 New
              +4
              Nobody speaks badly about the American special forces here, just as one person said, “Your sweetheart is weak”, your vaunted guys.
              1. mikkado31
                mikkado31 8 October 2013 23: 37 New
                +4
                The calf does not need to tear a big mind. Our special forces, the guys are literate and with a "ducky and a calf," they have everything in order, believe me.
              2. Stalinets
                Stalinets 9 October 2013 07: 28 New
                +3
                Darling, it's about the Georgians ...
            2. Rusich51
              Rusich51 12 October 2013 15: 13 New
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              Israeli special forces are likely to be stronger than Amers. Especially the 13th brigade. Not my words, read somewhere.
              1. mikkado31
                mikkado31 15 October 2013 02: 40 New
                -1
                perhaps. There are no questions to the IDF.
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 7 October 2013 14: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: honest Jew
          If the Russian special forces are so cool, then why did the 2 Chechens lose? As always, waving his fists through the air !!!
          So come closer ... Stand in the air repeat
        3. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 7 October 2013 14: 56 New
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          Quote: honest Jew
          If the Russian special forces are ...



          ... oh, I’m afraid, I’m afraid ... right now the dude will come from the rainbow and will save me ... even if you have something not healthy with the rainbow ... not homosexual hour?
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 8 October 2013 07: 10 New
            +1
            And the most brutal murders, by the way, in a homo showdown!
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        5. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 7 October 2013 21: 40 New
          +2
          If the Russian special forces are so cool, then why did the 2 Chechens lose? As always, waving his fists through the air !!!



          There were losses, especially in the Berda special forces brigade, the Chuchkovskaya brigade (they went to bed on the territory of the plant, the premises were not checked for bookmarks. The pillars were blown up, the building collapsed.
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 7 October 2013 21: 41 New
            +3
            Nevertheless, we did not lose the war. And everyone has setbacks.
        6. Growler
          Growler 9 October 2013 23: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: honest Jew
          If the Russian special forces are so cool, then why did the 2 Chechens lose? As always, waving his fists through the air !!!

          Why, why, the Zhidomassons are to blame.
        7. Rusich51
          Rusich51 12 October 2013 15: 07 New
          +1
          Not the special forces lost, but politicians at the behest of their masters from Fashington.
          I will not deny that the Israeli special forces are strong.
      3. eplewke
        eplewke 7 October 2013 14: 09 New
        +3
        Miracle elite super american special forces ... Aha. Of course. There is such a special forces - the elite among the special forces of America: Delta Force! So these "supermen" had at least one normal operation. They made their way to Iran in full, draped from Mogadishu to Somalia and a couple of unsuccessful cases with this unfortunate special forces. If there were real super specialists on earth, this is Group A of the KGB of the USSR! Those guys were definitely unkillable ... Amin's castle is proof of this.
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 7 October 2013 14: 33 New
          +5
          Amin’s castle was taken by GRU special forces- “Muslim battalion” recruited by their immigrants from Central Asia ...
          Then it was also disbanded (although it showed itself on the good side)) in Afghanistan
          In Yugoslavia, Yevkurov (Muslim)) participated in a raid on Pristina ...
          Identity Man nothing, true, what the hell is he doing there in power ????
          Mara ....
          1. ametist
            ametist 7 October 2013 20: 42 New
            +4
            Amin’s castle took "Cascade", later "Pennant".
            1. Proud.
              Proud. 7 October 2013 21: 21 New
              +4
              Quote: ametist
              Amin’s castle took "Cascade", later "Pennant".

              The assault was carried out by the Thunder groups (fighters of the Alpha group) and Zenit (officers of the special reserve of the KGB of the USSR). Pennant did not exist at that time, it was formed in August 1981. Zenit detachments were the predecessors of Pennant "and" Cascade ", and he was a power unit of foreign intelligence of the KGB of the USSR. He supported the assault and was in the echelon of covering the Muslim Battalion and the 9th company of the 345th separate guards airborne regiment. By the way, the Muslim Battalion, another day after the assault, he fought with the remnants of the Aminovskiy brigade until they were left and in the mountains.
          2. eplewke
            eplewke 8 October 2013 09: 01 New
            0
            Amin’s castle was taken directly by Alpha and the Vympel group, the Muslim battalion provided cover. Maybe a few people also participated in this, but the main work was done by the guys from Alpha ...
            1. mikkado31
              mikkado31 8 October 2013 23: 41 New
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              Amin’s palace, aliens took ... Alpha, Thunder, Pennant, Cascade ... So who took it? You yourself don’t know who took it, but what is he cooler than everyone, you know right away?

              IMHO. Few people know about many successful special operations.
        2. Dovmont
          Dovmont 7 October 2013 15: 36 New
          +5
          eplewke
          Quote: eplewke
          They made their way to Iran in full, draped from Mogadishu to Somalia and a couple of unsuccessful cases with this unfortunate special forces

          More than once and for the most part were treated in Laos and Vietnam in the 70s
        3. Joker
          Joker 7 October 2013 19: 16 New
          +3
          So these "supermeeny" at least one normal operation conducted.

          News read, the other day in Libya and Somalia, US special forces destroyed the ringleaders of the militants.
          "A" of the KGB of the USSR! Those guys were definitely not killed ... Amin's Castle is proof of that.

          The keyword WERE, now no longer.
        4. Pamir210
          Pamir210 12 October 2013 16: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: eplewke
          these "supermen" had at least one normal operation

          Do you know about ALL of their operations? doubtful.
      4. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 7 October 2013 21: 37 New
        0
        When there is a battle for your home, for children, women, this is one thing, when they “democratize” someone, this is another. Therefore, the real capabilities of the special forces can most likely be seen in the first, but certainly not in the second ("democratization")



        The war in the DRA 1979-1989. As part of the Russian naval group, there is a BDK with two reinforced companies of the Marines, who sent them to fight for their home, for children, women?
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 7 October 2013 11: 27 New
      +7
      Although the films show which Americans are patriots, they still fight for money, and what will happen if there is no money,


      What nonsense! In this, their soldiers are no different from our officers, who also receive salaries, bonuses (including military), but for some reason no one considers them to be mercenaries.
      And the military around the world are usually patriots, apparently it pushes them to choose a profession
      Well, about the video - there are probably 100 videos with the opposite result laughing the Internet he is such an Internet
      1. nerd.su
        nerd.su 7 October 2013 17: 46 New
        0
        Quote: cdrt

        What nonsense! In this, their soldiers are no different from our officers, who also receive salaries, bonuses (including military), but for some reason no one considers them to be mercenaries.
        And the military around the world are usually patriots, apparently it pushes them to choose a profession

        Mexican, serving for money in the US Army, what kind of homeland is he a patriot?
        That's when Tajik migrant workers will become officers in our army, then their soldiers will cease to be different from our officers.
        1. mikkado31
          mikkado31 8 October 2013 23: 43 New
          +2
          And in your army only Russians serve?
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 10 October 2013 00: 12 New
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            Quote: mikkado31
            And in your army only Russians serve

            Citizens of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics serve in our army. Or what did you think, everything? Figwam, the national home of the American natives, from the destruction of which the US Army began to bring the light of democracy to the world!
          2. Rusich51
            Rusich51 12 October 2013 15: 18 New
            0
            Quote: mikkado31
            And in your army only Russians serve?

            And in your every creature a couple. Sadists, rapists and murderers. It would be better if the Jews studied.
            1. mikkado31
              mikkado31 15 October 2013 02: 41 New
              -2
              Normal guys serve in the army. In your then shit will be more.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 16 October 2013 05: 48 New
                +1
                Quote: mikkado31
                Normal guys serve in the army.

                Hitler also believed that normal guys serve in the SS.
        2. Ols76
          Ols76 15 October 2013 06: 11 New
          0
          The USA is a country of immigrants if you did not know this. As for what kind of homeland is that Mexican patriot, I will answer you that in the one in which he lives tobish of the USA, Therefore he serves in the army of this country. So US soldiers are no different from Russian army officers, most of whom serve not for money but for the idea and love of the homeland.
    3. honest jew
      honest jew 7 October 2013 13: 09 New
      -20
      Do not la la about Russian special forces. Here's a video: An American will knock out a Russian special forces !!!

      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 7 October 2013 14: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: honest Jew
        Do not la la about Russian special forces. Here's a video: An American will knock out a Russian special forces !!!


        Well, it’s not a bad thing to get it on a piece of bread, it happens and it will fly. But apparently this happens in the opposite direction, and it will not allow censorship to show that Russian special forces with 314ndos do ...

        laughing
      2. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 7 October 2013 23: 05 New
        +8
        Quote: honest Jew
        .Vot video: The American will knock out the Russian special forces !!!

        honesty of you and rushing, lay out one successful match, do not tell me the overall team result?

        or
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2-UUiGz3E
        or
        http://vestnikk.ru/society/incident/6290-pobeda-rossiyskogo-specnaza-v-ssha.html

        and after that
        http://spec-naz.org/news/159/vashington_otmenil_sovmestnye_ucheniya_podrazdeleni
        y_spetsnaza_rossii_i_ssha_v_podmoskove /
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 8 October 2013 00: 53 New
          +2
          Stas Cool! Well ... Where are you: the most honest of the Jews? Vidio from Stas looked? Findings? Would you tear off that which was undercut ... You can also stuff a pais into the throat. You will not believe, although not a military man, I can ...
      3. eplewke
        eplewke 8 October 2013 09: 05 New
        0
        There are no honest Jews ...
        1. free
          free 25 July 2017 19: 56 New
          0
          Quote: eplewke
          There are no honest Jews ...


          and not half-living Jews?
    4. Joker
      Joker 7 October 2013 19: 14 New
      +3
      Although the films show which Americans are patriots, they still fight for money, and what will happen if there is no money, or the threat of 90% is really going to die in battle, they will probably say “to hell with money”.

      In the second world war and nothing.
      1. Rusich51
        Rusich51 12 October 2013 15: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Joker
        Although the films show which Americans are patriots, they still fight for money, and what will happen if there is no money, or the threat of 90% is really going to die in battle, they will probably say “to hell with money”.

        In the second world war and nothing.

        Yes, it’s rather weak, as they fought then, in the Ardennes they got on the wort, ours had to help the amers.
        1. mikkado31
          mikkado31 15 October 2013 02: 42 New
          -1
          But the Red Army did not receive from the Wehrmacht the first 3 years of the war? Let's be more objective. Only the one who does not fight at all does not lose.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 05: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: mikkado31
            But the Red Army did not receive from the Wehrmacht the first 3 years of the war?

            warrior began June 22, 1941, add three years wink December 41-German ogrebone near Moscow. A year passed, the Germans ogrebon in Stalingrad. Another 6 months passed, the ogrebon on the Kursk Bulge. The largest events in two years and the Germans pissed off everything tongue Then the Germans only retreated. Teach the story of my American foe!
    5. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 7 October 2013 21: 34 New
      0
      otya in films and they show what kind of Americans are patriots, but still they fight for money



      The Russian units of the Special Forces are not manned by conscripts; contractors, warrant officers, officers who receive a monthly cash allowance, with appropriate allowances for combat, jumping, class, OUS (to whom it should be) and others.
      1. Stalinets
        Stalinets 10 October 2013 01: 49 New
        +3
        It seems to me that in order to stop the argument, it should be said that those who are in favor of the idea are stronger. The ideological component (religious or "for the homeland") is a very strong factor. For the Motherland, they were dying. They became officers to serve the motherland. These are not high words. Normal morality. They won’t die for grandmas, because you want to live on them. Everything is simple. request
    6. Ols76
      Ols76 15 October 2013 05: 51 New
      -1
      [quote = evgenii67] Although the films show which Americans are patriots, they still fight for money, and what happens if there is no money, or there will really be a threat of 90% death in battle, they might say "to hell with money." There is a funny video about which special forces are better (Soviet maroon beret and American green). The victory in that video was won by Russian special forces. [

      I am for realism and objective assessments of soldiers of the us army and therefore can not help but say that for the 20 years that I lived here I have not met a single American who served in the army for money and not for patriotism. In the first place they have this patriotism, well, and money is already as they say "bonus". There is a misconception that Americans are not very big patriots and they fight exclusively for money. So I apologize in advance since many will not like it, but I have not seen more patriotic people who love their country more than Americans. I have seen this picture many times when strangers on the street at the sight of a man in a military uniform come to shake hands and thank for the service. Military service here is very honorable and prestigious.

      As for the special forces, the Russian special forces are certainly the best!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 05: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Ols76
        Military service here is very honorable and prestigious.

        It is strange, but what then is a huge shortfall in the US Army, if so honorable, why does nobody want to die patriotically for their country?
        1. atalef
          atalef 15 October 2013 06: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Ols76
          Military service here is very honorable and prestigious.

          It is strange, but what then is a huge shortfall in the US Army, if so honorable, why does nobody want to die patriotically for their country?


          Sanya, good morning. Well, there’s no good in all armies, but they probably live well there, don’t need money, not everyone is at war, and now even more so, they practically left Iraq and Afghanistan
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 06: 51 New
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            Sanya, good morning

            Salute, why aren't you sleeping? wink
            Quote: atalef
            Well, no good in all armies
            Sasha, look at who they are recruiting into the US Army. He also stole a choice, in prison or in the army. How many percent can they read there? Ordinary gangsters compensate for the shortfall. These are definitely not patriots.
            1. atalef
              atalef 15 October 2013 07: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: atalef
              Sanya, good morning

              Salute, why aren't you sleeping? wink
              Well, you laugh, but as a construction site of Zionism, every day 5.20 rise to work crying (I start at 6.30), while going to work exactly 7 minutes

              Quote: atalef


              do not do well in all armies
              Sasha, look at who they are recruiting into the US Army. He also stole a choice, in prison or in the army. How many percent can they read there? Ordinary gangsters compensate for the shortfall. These are definitely not patriots.

              In the absence of a stamp, we write in simple, this is what it is, there is no universal military duty, so you have to choose from what has come, but usually comes what cannot be settled in life without the help of the army. there is no money for college, study, etc. There are, of course, and believe me, not a small number who serve for the idea (I have a friend of my niece’s husband) the professor’s son in New York went to the Marines, then to the seals and continues. Although from the point of view of attendants and education there everything is in order. But not everyone has it, in Russia to notice the same thing, they are going to the Army or those who have not deflected or didn’t act, out of patriotic motives - well, it’s not too much (we’ll be honest) Therefore, the problem is the same everywhere in America
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 08: 43 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                there is no universal military duty, so you have to choose from what has come,

                Here I am about it, but IT comes the most highly intellectual laughing
            2. Ols76
              Ols76 15 October 2013 07: 12 New
              -1
              You dear, if you don’t know then please keep your opinion to yourself. They do not take a criminal record into the US Army, so that “Ordinary bandits compensate for the shortfall” was exhausted but not in the subject. And as for "How many percent are not able to read there?" You actually made me laugh), without a school diploma about the end of 12 classes they don’t take it at all.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 08: 39 New
                +1
                Quote: Ols76
                The US Army with a criminal record is not taken so that "Ordinary bandits compensate shortfall" plagued but not in the subject

                Yes Yes Yes laughing Volunteers of the European and Pacific units of the Stringer Bureau also collected facts and evidence of offenses at US foreign military bases. Serving at 865 military bases in 130 countries, US soldiers commit tens of thousands of crimes against civilians: sexual abuse, drug trafficking, fights and murders. Children and adolescents are particularly affectedwww.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/10/02/1182763.html Here they are your patriots laughing

                Our Army Today: Bandits, Nazis, and Mentally Ill ("The American Conservative", USA)
                Review of the book by Matt Kennard "Irregular Army: How the US military took to the war on terror neo-Nazis, members of bandit groups and criminals"
                Clark Stooksbury
                inosmi.ru/world/20130409/207853789.html
                Dafay American patriot, tell us Russians about your army good This is about advice - read more books wink
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 15 October 2013 08: 41 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Dafay American patriot, tell us Russians about your army


                  Judging by the name Oleg, he is Russian by nationality, but for some reason cares about the USA ?!
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 08: 50 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Apollon
                    Judging by the name Oleg, he is Russian by nationality, but for some reason cares about the USA ?!

                    Apollo, here she is also Russian judging by the surname, BUT with a big BUT hi
        2. Ols76
          Ols76 15 October 2013 06: 38 New
          0
          Well, firstly, it’s not so easy to get there because not everyone takes it, and secondly, now 200,000 are returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan, so on the contrary they will be dismissed a lot.
          And thirdly, with all due respect, filtering your bazaar “die patriotically for your country” is simply not respect for the soldiers who carry out their duty as well as the soldiers of Russia.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 06: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Ols76
            Well, firstly, it’s not so easy to get in because not everyone takes

            Listen, everywhere there is open access to information on the US Army, all the scumbags are already taken there. No need to hang noodles on your ears.
            Quote: Ols76
            and secondly, now 200,000 is returning home so on the contrary they will be dismissed a lot.

            This is called cutting military spending. The budget is bursting at the seams.
            Where do you read this nonsense on CNN probably.
            1. Ols76
              Ols76 15 October 2013 07: 33 New
              -2
              You write about what you do not know! Well, of course, you can see everything from your bell tower and know about the US Army. And about "Where do you read this nonsense on CNN probably." I have many friends who served and some still serve in the army, so I say what I know and see with my own eyes every day. I have a couple of friends recently returned from Afghanistan and Iraq and served there not because of money but because of patriotism and duty, but you can’t understand this Alexander!
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 07: 44 New
                +1
                Quote: Ols76
                . I have a couple of acquaintances recently returned from Afghanistan and Iraq and served there not because of money but because of patriotism and duty,

                Yeah, and how many peaceful Afghans did they kill because of their patriotism?
                Quote: Ols76
                but you do not understand Alexander!

                But where are we to you democrats.
                1. Ols76
                  Ols76 15 October 2013 08: 18 New
                  -1
                  Yes, no one here is going to argue with you about this. It’s not about whether America is right there or not, it’s not for us to decide. It was about the fact that you simply do not respect the soldiers who carry out their duty as well as the Rossi soldiers do their duty.

                  And about the "peaceful Afghans" you would generally be silent here.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 08: 42 New
                    0
                    Quote: Ols76
                    . The point was that you simply do not respect soldiers who carry out their duty

                    Are you talking about these soldiers
      2. Ols76
        Ols76 15 October 2013 07: 19 New
        -1
        Alexander Romanov, immediately minus, there is essentially nothing to answer? Books should be read, well, in general I advise you to develop as it is comprehensively necessary)
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 07: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Ols76
          Alexander Romanov, immediately minus, there is essentially nothing to answer?

          I’ll spend a lot of information, but minus the return on yours and for your lies!
          - Group homosexual rape, one of the most painful phenomena in the American army,voprosik.net
          Join the U.S. Army is an opportunity to be raped by patriots wassat
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            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 October 2013 08: 28 New
              +2
              Quote: Ols76
              , all the questions are gone, I'm afraid to mess with you

              Yes, you’re doing it right. Continue to be proud of your perverted army of killers! And then open your American flag, or the people will not understand.
              Eco, they poked their nose at it and immediately tied the topic, realizing that there was no further driving through the ears wassat
              1. Ols76
                Ols76 15 October 2013 19: 01 New
                0
                I poked you nose in it and right there my comment was deleted !!! It seems that all comments that are not pleasing to you on the site are deleted.
                1. Pamir210
                  Pamir210 25 October 2013 16: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: Ols76
                  I poked you nose in it and right there my comment was deleted !!! It seems that all comments that are not pleasing to you on the site are deleted.

                  absolutely true impression.
          2. Ols76
            Ols76 15 October 2013 19: 27 New
            -1
            Ahrenet, what does the homosexual have to do with it? All I said is that all the people who I know in the US Army whom I personally know served because of patriotism and not because of money.
            A normal, not preoccupied man will not be so explicit in showing and showing interest in the topic of homosexuality. Everything is clear with you, you are a pronounced pervert, there are no more questions, I’m afraid to mess with you.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 16 October 2013 05: 53 New
              0
              Quote: Ols76
              A normal, not preoccupied man will not be so explicit in showing and showing interest in the topic of homosexuality.

              Yes, looking at your army, keeping silent is difficult wassat
              Quote: Ols76
              Everything is clear with you, you are a pronounced pervert

              I say that homosexual perverts are over-sodomites. Obama and his sixes say gay men are the backbone of the US Army — protecting them in every way.
              But in the eyes of the American you! Everyone who criticizes the American army, tells the truth, immediately fall into the list of perverts. If you substitute concepts, well done is as democratic as everyone in America.
  2. Majordok
    Majordok 7 October 2013 09: 20 New
    18
    One gets the impression that American special forces are admired not only by Americans, but also by the author of the article))) And there is an article about the delta on the site.
    1. roial
      roial 7 October 2013 09: 59 New
      12
      Quote: MajorDok
      American special forces admiration


      Why not? The clear action of the MSS is respected. Compared to ours, where pilots are rescued as God puts their souls on, it turned out - well, but no - it will do so.
      1. Rex
        Rex 7 October 2013 10: 19 New
        +9
        Quote: roial
        Quote: MajorDok
        American special forces admiration

        The clear action of the MSS is respected ..


        Are there reliable statistics of "clear actions"?
        During the "Storm", American special forces on their own smashed at least 2 helicopters in the desert. For both cases - about 20 elite corpses
        1. roial
          roial 7 October 2013 10: 41 New
          +1
          For example, one of the PSS squadrons saved 1500 people in ten years, the other in five - 200.
          The foreign press emphasized that the average time for a person to fall overboard to a ship is 10-12 minutes. The record time of the pilot’s ascent to the aircraft carrier after an unsuccessful take-off of the aircraft and its fall into the water is 4,5 minutes.

          http://gunmagazine.com.ua/index.php?id=182
          1. Rex
            Rex 7 October 2013 11: 21 New
            +8
            The data are given with reference to a foreign source, but without indicating the source.
            They do not indicate in which situations and whom they saved.
            For 10 years, the United States did not engage in large-scale military operations with a serious enemy and the combat losses of aircraft are essentially single, and 170 squadrons per year were saved by 2 people per year.
            Those. crashed in fairly regular situations and saved them in the same.
            Where in 10-12 minutes can a helicopter fly, given the take-off time? Those. rescued 30-45 km from Byza - maximum.
            Well, they broke records ...
          2. Suvorov000
            Suvorov000 7 October 2013 13: 19 New
            +1
            it’s how so, because nobody can ever bring them down anywhere, they are the very same))
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        3. cdrt
          cdrt 7 October 2013 11: 41 New
          +1
          During the "Storm", American special forces on their own smashed at least 2 helicopters in the desert. For both cases - about 20 elite corpses


          And we had the surrender of 50 commandos along with the commander captured by the Chechens.
          And what does that prove?
          Unsuccessful, and sometimes shameful pages are in the history of any of the most elite services
          1. Rex
            Rex 7 October 2013 12: 48 New
            +6
            Everybody has a mess. Moreover, the general public will never know about the majority of special forces crap. Only narrow specialists in many years ..
            He wrote as opposed to the differambs.
            As for our similar example, this is the loss of a deep-intelligence group of border guards in Tajikistan. Unlike the Americans, I have never seen data on the cause of the accident.
            The corpses are not happy at all - neither ours nor American. Sorry for the men. And the death is stupid.
            1. Ols76
              Ols76 15 October 2013 06: 18 New
              0
              Well done, he said everything correctly.
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 7 October 2013 11: 37 New
        +1
        Here I have one feeling that in the article "horses, people mixed up" laughing ?
        I don’t remember reading that CSR includes army and MP snipers.
        Also, I’m not sure that the MP correctors are part of CSR.
        You can also list the army of deep reconnaissance companies, by the way, also not in CSR.
        But the units of psychological operations that are clearly included in CSR are not listed.
        By the way, well done, of course, the US Armed Forces for creating a rescue unit for pilots. We haven’t heard anything like this from us, but they still have regular staff with WWII.
      3. Suvorov000
        Suvorov000 7 October 2013 13: 17 New
        +1
        All would be fine, but only their most vaunted Delta squad, for some reason, mostly mowed not childishly, then their failures are ringing then around the world
      4. Sashkessss
        Sashkessss 7 October 2013 17: 38 New
        0
        Let's just say that our pilots are also not shaky. And when the American pilots sit quietly in captivity and wait for their rescuers, ours will already do a lot of things just to escape.
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80_(%
        D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BC,_2010)
    2. Ded_smerch
      Ded_smerch 7 October 2013 10: 54 New
      +9
      the author sings so beautifully - "they removed Bin Laden" it has long been clear that the operation was essentially a failure. "They created a unit to combat pirates" only that something is not heard about the successes on this front, as the Russian fleet drove pirates near Africa and chases.
      1. avt
        avt 7 October 2013 11: 18 New
        10
        Quote: Ded_smerch
        the author sings so beautifully - "removed Bin Laden" has long been clear

        Yeah ! Demonstrative flogging Beni Ladanov live, this is that super special operation of elite cats. laughing Generally without any resistance and fire from the women and Beni himself. Lose the turntable from scratch! In general, thanks to the super-prepared elite units, the old man was soaked with a rusty machine gun and did not kill each other. Where are we with the storming of Amin’s palace. In general, they are well done, now they shot a film about it about the mighty fight against super terrorist. They used to say war garbage, the main thing is maneuvers. Now war garbage, the main thing is PR and so that there are more stickers, well, there Tim was special, zippers with knives, colored berets ...
        1. Ded_smerch
          Ded_smerch 7 October 2013 15: 26 New
          +2
          "they soaked the old man with a rusty machine gun" and whether there was a boy, otherwise Beni seems to be there, it is suggested that after a "glorious" operation a month later (I can’t vouch for sure) the vert with the entire staff of "heroes" fell to his death .
          1. avt
            avt 7 October 2013 15: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: Ded_smerch
            otherwise Beni seems to be there, information suggests that after a “glorious” operation a month later (I can’t vouch for sure), a vert with the entire composition of “heroes” fell to his death.

            ,, Ends, ends. Ends in the water! "Hell was with him, he wasn’t, the main thing on the air was the soaking superprofit, it’s even when they themselves chose the scenery and the time of the series. Well, maybe the extras were copied, or maybe they they ran into real spirits, well, not amusing, costumed. To cut through the sky like in a movie - not to go to the caravan in real life. Or maybe they just forgot to take scuba gear, and here they are fins and stuck together. laughing
        2. mikkado31
          mikkado31 9 October 2013 00: 23 New
          0
          So only complete amateurs reason
      2. v.lyamkin
        v.lyamkin 7 October 2013 11: 29 New
        0
        Moreover, special operations against pirates could not only be made public, but it would have been necessary.
        1. Ded_smerch
          Ded_smerch 7 October 2013 15: 24 New
          +1
          Steven Spielberg has not yet managed to remove the blockbuster, or they will make a series from this laughing
          1. Stalinets
            Stalinets 10 October 2013 01: 54 New
            0
            Special Forces, all of these elite units, are secret. Therefore, to argue, it makes no sense. Everywhere sign non-disclosure papers. And nobody wants a bunk. And the articles are written by the readers, so that we would not be bored. wink laughing
  3. Zhenya
    Zhenya 7 October 2013 09: 45 New
    +9
    Although you can shower me with kakahami, BUT I really like the sergeant ranks of the US Army and I do not consider them complicated:
    1.Sergeant Major of the United States Army (The Sergeant Major of the United States Army).
    2. Team Sergeant Major (Command Sergeant Major).
    3 Sergeant Major
    4.First Sergeant (First Sergeant).
    5.Master Sergeant
    6. Sergeant First Class (Sergeant First Class.).
    7. Staff Sergeant.
    8 sergeant
    etc.
    Thus, the US Army has 40% of sergeants of various classes in the troops and does not have such an enormous number of officers as in our army, which I think is right, since the army primarily rests on officers, but even more it rests on specialists, and these are just sergeants.
    1 ml sergeant
    2 sergeant
    3.St. sergeant
    4. Elder .. but it seems to be abolished in the army ...
    1. Shkodnik65
      Shkodnik65 7 October 2013 11: 10 New
      +9
      Thus, the US Army has 40% of sergeants of various classes in the troops and does not have such an enormous number of officers as in our army

      And actually WHY a large number of sergeants in the troops is GOOD, and a large number of officers is GOOD ??? And what does the "colossal number" of officers mean ??? I served in aviation and at least cut me sure: the pilot must be an officer. The lion's share of the personnel in the regiment: flight, engineering and technical personnel - officers. This is bad? In my opinion, all these conversations arose with the advent of the Stool and were intended only for one thing - at least somehow to justify the massacre (in other words, the officers). We have our own traditions, and we need to adhere to them, and not look back, how good it is in the States and how bad it is in us, because it’s not like in the states.
      1. roial
        roial 7 October 2013 11: 32 New
        +5
        Well, when reading a sergeant, you need to understand a specialist, the difference between our and their sergeant is quite large.
        I will not say how in combat units, but in radio engineering, communications, air defense, the presence of a large number of officer posts is only due to the fact that the prepared lower ranks are absent as a class. So you have to inflate the number of officers.
      2. Zhenya
        Zhenya 7 October 2013 11: 38 New
        +4
        Shkodnik65 UUU, I don’t touch aviation, the pilot must be an officer, I agree! true during the second world war, not only officers flew, but not the essence.
        30% of our officers are essentially sergeants, we just need to expand the ranks of sergeants and this is not a copy of the United States and I do not say that the United States is not good, but in this respect their experience can be taken, for example, there is a senior sergeant or ensign who can to get a rank for long service, so here some sergeant-lieutenant would be very helpful or a sergeant would show himself well, but would not be attracted to an officer, then some chief sergeant would also be welcome.
      3. Docent1984
        Docent1984 7 October 2013 13: 34 New
        +4
        My father also served in aviation. And when I told him that now in my infantry of the commander’s platoon there was a sergeant position, he looked at me for a long time as an idiot. Then he said - "I imagine how ensign flies off - even if he manages to land, the engine will steal along the way" ... Let's hope that our troops get rid of this plague faster than the Red Army at one time.
      4. Rusich51
        Rusich51 12 October 2013 15: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Shkodnik65
        We have our own traditions, and we need to adhere to them, and not look back, how good it is in the States and how bad it is in us, because it’s not like in the states.


        Always look in the mouth of Westerners? Themselves with a mustache, something to adopt is not shameful, but to leave something your own.
      5. Ols76
        Ols76 15 October 2013 06: 25 New
        0
        It is generally about the number of sergeants in the troops. I also think that a pilot should be an officer, and by the way, in the USA, pilots are also officers.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 7 October 2013 13: 05 New
      +5
      What good is a large number of sergeant ranks?
      Let's make 50-100 titles like: "under-sergeant", a little-under-sergeant, "A little-under-sergeant", "under-sergeant", "under-sergeant" and so on up to "super-duper-mega-sergeant".
      You mix the concepts of TITLE and DUTY.
    3. erg
      erg 7 October 2013 13: 58 New
      10
      The first item that you specify is the name of the position that only one person in the entire US army performs (the army in the United States means only ground forces). This is a representative of the sergeant corps at the army headquarters. Point two, also the name of the posts, they are performed by one sergeant at the command headquarters (this is an analogue of our military districts). By the name of the posts, these representatives of the sergeant corps are called. In reality, their title is Sergeant Major. The squad leaders are those with the rank of Sergeant. Sergeant first class, Master sergeant, first sergeant, sergeant majeure - this is an analogue of ours, especially foremen, partly warrant officers and senior warrant officers (partly because of this they have been classified as warrant officers). In general, it is incorrect to compare the military ranks of different states. Since they reflect the structure of the army that has developed historically, it is often impossible to draw analogies. In our system, the junior sergeant and sergeant are department commanders, senior sergeant is deputy commander of the platoon (army terminal lock), foreman, ensign, senior ensign are foremen and other positions that do not require an officer rank, but require great knowledge or different from those required by unit commanders. Everything is quite simple and logical. It’s only a competent organization. Officers perform functions that are not inherent to them, transfer these positions to the categories of foremen and ensigns, increase their staff if necessary. If you need to enter one more, two ranks, for example the ensign (existed in the Russian imperial army). And do not adopt anybody’s system, ours is no worse and no better than the rest. The main thing in the competent organization of the service.
    4. Ded_smerch
      Ded_smerch 7 October 2013 15: 33 New
      +1
      that’s all right, the army in the USA is a commercial organization and the network of posts should be divided as much as possible into the type: junior locksmith, locksmith, senior locksmith, leading locksmith, locksmith mentor ...

      It is very convenient to manage hard workers.
  4. Rex
    Rex 7 October 2013 10: 07 New
    0
    Of all the open information about US special forces (over the past 25 years), I have never seen data on the actual number of "military trunks."
    Most likely, from the general CSR staff of special forces officers themselves it is good if 30-35 thousand. Of these, “fighters” - 15-25 thousand
    True, in our army now there is not so much.
  5. de bouillon
    de bouillon 7 October 2013 10: 17 New
    -6
    Quote: MajorDok
    One gets the impression that American special forces are admired not only by Americans, but also by the author of the article))) And there is an article about the delta on the site.


    this article is canine for the author has collected the most famous episodes of the failure of the Delta operation

    and there wasn’t enough mind for more. Books had to be read ..
  6. ale-x
    ale-x 7 October 2013 10: 18 New
    +2
    Ahrenet, and if they feed well there? Where are the recruiters?
    1. Rex
      Rex 7 October 2013 10: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: ale-x
      Ahrenet, and if they feed well there? Where are the recruiters?

      good
      Then in the Legion - there is at least a chance to get there
  7. de bouillon
    de bouillon 7 October 2013 10: 32 New
    +2
    Th immediately minus. Objectively, there is essentially nothing to answer ??

    They belittle))
  8. de bouillon
    de bouillon 7 October 2013 10: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Rex
    Quote: roial
    Quote: MajorDok
    American special forces admiration

    The clear action of the MSS is respected ..


    Are there reliable statistics of "clear actions"?
    During the "Storm", American special forces on their own smashed at least 2 helicopters in the desert. For both cases - about 20 elite corpses


    Admit it honestly. You studied the works of the Desert Storm.
    1. Rex
      Rex 7 October 2013 11: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: de
      Admit it honestly. You studied the works of the Desert Storm. [/ Quote


      I did not study the proceedings.
      The US Air Force annually publishes open data on the losses of its aircraft (ours would be so).
      These reports indicate the types of aircraft lost and the situations in which they were lost.
      By the way - these reports are sometimes published by specialized domestic publications.
      About these 2 helicopters - from official data.
  9. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 7 October 2013 10: 35 New
    +9
    During the landing in Grenada in 1983, about a hundred American transport helicopters were shot down. And almost all the downed helicopters had on board from 15 to 30 people and 3-5 crew members each. Thus, even if not everyone on the downed helicopters died, then even the death toll only on the downed helicopters should have been about 2 thousand. It is known for certain that on 10 helicopters shot down in Grenada in full force, the group of special forces "Delta" in the amount of 200 people perished before they entered the battle. The Delta group was called the elite of American special forces. But in the entire history of its existence, this group has never been able to engage in battle with a real enemy. Shortly after its creation in 1980. she lost 40% of her membership during an unsuccessful attempt to free American hostage diplomats in Iran. After 3 years, in Grenada, the Delta group died completely. Survived staff and maintenance personnel who did not leave the United States. The most interesting thing is that all American helicopters and planes were shot down in Grenada by Soviet weapons from the Second World War: heavy machine guns DShK model 1938 and 37-mm automatic anti-aircraft guns "61-K" model 1939 Although also used in a small amount of 57-mm automatic anti-aircraft guns "S-60" mod. November 1951, XNUMX In 2 weeks of fighting in Grenada, Americans lost as many helicopters as Soviet troops did in the first six years of the war in Afghanistan. Such large losses in people (3 thousand killed) and equipment (100 transport and 20 combat helicopters, 10 combat aircraft) were caused by the fact that 30 thousand A group of American forces clashed with about a thousand Cubans, around whom about 3 thousand soldiers and officers of the Grenadian army and police who wished to fight and armed party activists united. At the same time, out of a thousand Cubans, only two hundred were officers (army, police, state security) who trained the Grenadians from the corresponding power structures. The remaining 800 Cubans are civilian builders who have modernized the Grenada International Airport and previously served in the army. While most of the Cuban military advisers organized and led the resistance of those parts of the army and police who wished to fight, the Cuban workers, picking up small arms abandoned by most of the Grenadian army, as well as large-caliber machine guns DShK, 37-mm anti-aircraft guns “61-K”, mortars and recoilless guns gave the invading forces an organized rebuff. First, they shot several hundred parachuting soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division right in the air, then shot down dozens of transport and combat helicopters and several attack aircraft from aircraft carriers. Despite the overwhelming superiority in firepower and manpower, the Americans could not break the resistance of the Cubans until they ran out of ammunition. Destroying about 2 thousand battles in the airport area in a few days Americans, Cubans during this time, according to the Americans themselves, lost 50 people killed. This loss ratio suggests that in 1983 American officers also did not know how to control artillery fire and airstrikes, as during the First and Second World Wars. In addition, this speaks of the cowardice of American pilots who, after losing several aircraft from anti-aircraft fire, launched missile and bomb strikes without entering the range of anti-aircraft guns, that is, from a height of about 5 km. And since until now, despite all the technical improvements, missile and bomb strikes from a height of more than 3 km are not aimed, the American soldiers of the ground forces paid hundreds of their lives for the unprofessionalism of their artillery officers and aircraft guides and for the cowardice of pilots.
    http://artofwar.ru/c/chekmarew_w_a/text_0130.shtml

    1. roial
      roial 7 October 2013 10: 46 New
      -10
      We have already heard this tale, it is from the category of those tales as well as the GRU operation to hijack the latest American helicopter.

      I wanted it to be true - but there is no documentary evidence.
    2. de bouillon
      de bouillon 7 October 2013 11: 03 New
      -3
      let's not copy-paste Kolontaev of this military expert who did not serve in the army. This is the profile of modern Russia
      1. creak
        creak 7 October 2013 11: 35 New
        +3
        The Cubans showed themselves excellently during the fighting in Angola, Mozambique and several other countries, demonstrated good training and high morale. My close friend, who once served in Angola, is witnessing this ... However, 50 killed Cubans versus 2 Americans and 100 helicopters, with the vast superiority of the latter and the absence of a serious Cuban military contingent in Grenada, is, to put it mildly, an overkill , the desire to wishful thinking ... The invasion of Grenada is still not Vietnam or Afghanistan ...
    3. smiths xnumx
      smiths xnumx 7 October 2013 11: 54 New
      +5
      The fact that the thousands of losses of American troops killed during the fighting in Grenada is a reality and that the cause of these losses were Cubans, is the behavior of American troops in Grenada regarding the building of the Cuban embassy and Cuban diplomats. A few hours after the start of the American invasion, Cuban diplomats, well knowing the nature of their northern neighbor, hurriedly left the building of their embassy and took refuge with their Soviet colleagues. A few days later, completely angered by their unexpectedly gigantic losses, the Americans literally smashed the building of the Cuban embassy in bricks. But American casualties from the Cuban fire continued to skyrocket, and so did American anger. And when, after the capture of Grenada, the evacuation from the island of everyone who was in the building of the Soviet embassy began, the American soldiers and officers formed a “living corridor” in the airport hall and, passing the evacuees through it, awarded with generous slap in the face and kicks to all men who had at least the slightest signs of Hispanic appearance. Since Americans, for all the mass of their negative qualities, cannot be called sadists after all, this, to put it mildly, unusual behavior could be caused only by unusually high losses. But the Americans still had something wrong with their heads. They treated the Cubans captured at the airport and sent a couple of thousand of their compatriots to the next world, observing generally the international conventions on prisoners of war, and the Cuban diplomats, who did not touch their finger, were beaten. Of course, the Americans did not learn any lessons from their latest mistakes and root defects in the structure of the armed forces revealed by the battles in Grenada, due to the complete lack of self-criticism in the Anglo-Saxon character.
      http://artofwar.ru/c/chekmarew_w_a/text_0130.shtml


      1. creak
        creak 7 October 2013 12: 20 New
        +3
        The behavior of the Americans is not a documentary confirmation of the amount of their losses, but an emotional reaction. I know this firsthand and not from other people's words. I myself am a war veteran, as well as several of my colleagues, one of whom, as I noted, served in Angola with the Cubans and spoke quite closely with them. To date, enough information has been published about the invasion of Grenada and not a single serious source of data you cite contains ...
      2. Stalinets
        Stalinets 8 October 2013 05: 22 New
        +1
        Americans will never allow such losses .... They immediately raise the bombers and carpet bombing begins. This is not for you Zhukov on the Zeelovsky heights ... These warriors are not shy about turning the landscape into a moon ... Plus, their artillery is very good.
    4. SIT
      SIT 7 October 2013 15: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: smiths xnumx
      Such large losses in people (3 thousand killed) and equipment (100 transport and 20 combat helicopters, 10 combat aircraft)

      All that helicopters could carry in the American armada is Guam and 3 dock landing ships. On Guam, fits 19 CH-46 Sea knight (marine version of Chinook), 6 of the same on ships docks. This is the same helicopter that is shown in the photo. Independence has 2 squadrons of fighters, 2 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy reconnaissance aircraft. There may be a pair of auxiliary turntables. So where did this hundred downed helicopters come from and where did the rest come from? Anti-aircraft guns and four-wheel drive vehicles were at Point Salinas under construction and at the old Perls airport. Not a single fire control system, no well-coordinated calculations, and they shot down 10 jet deck attack aircraft !? This is even a very good result even for the C300, but here from the machine guns ...
    5. Stalinets
      Stalinets 8 October 2013 05: 16 New
      0
      implicated in urapatriotism ...
  10. sergant89
    sergant89 7 October 2013 10: 36 New
    19
    But it’s better to print
    1. carver
      carver 7 October 2013 11: 06 New
      +9
      Quote: sergant89
      But it’s better to print


      He’s mistaken, that’s why this is not the case, Luley of course, as a result, pile on, but we will not touch the ass.
      1. Ded_smerch
        Ded_smerch 7 October 2013 15: 37 New
        0
        interesting: when playing in BF-3 for the Russian Federation you hear a special mat, and when playing for amers you hear abuse about buggers and about tearing asses. Seen DICE well versed in military subjects laughing
  11. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 October 2013 10: 53 New
    +9
    I wouldn’t troll the American special forces, it seems that he copes with his tasks, well, and only those who don’t do anything fail. I don’t know how much the average special forces soldier gets there, but I’m sure that they don’t save on the army in the USA unlike one other country, where a bunch of "effective managers" and the sense, like a goat milk.
  12. major071
    major071 7 October 2013 10: 54 New
    +9
    So, think out loud for reference:
    A unique training system has been introduced in the US Army - at each base there is a training center specializing in one thing. For example, on the basis of amphibious forces in Colorado, combat swimmers are trained for the fleet, but they are also taught a course of light divers - scouts for the army, who can finish anyone who wants to endorse a report from the commander and pass physical tests. Of course, there are also general training centers, such as Paris Island for the Marine Corps, but there the training lasts for months, not years like ours. Then the marine gets the necessary courses. And in each expeditionary corps of the marine corps, the command forms special companies and platoons - for example, a platoon of combat swimmers, a deep reconnaissance platoon, a counter-terrorism platoon, etc. .. Thus, in the hands of the commander is a universal unit in which there are people and teams sharpened for specific tasks.
    1. SIT
      SIT 7 October 2013 13: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: major071
      For example, on the basis of amphibious forces in Colorado prepare combat swimmers for the fleet, but still teach a course of light divers - scouts for the army


      Colorado has no access to the sea. There is a mountain training center, not a diving center.
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 October 2013 11: 05 New
    +1
    Well, yes, and ours are not "bast sewn."
    "We do not slurp tea with cabbage soup, we are pursuing tea policy!" L. Filatov
    1. roial
      roial 7 October 2013 11: 16 New
      +1
      That's exactly what
      not "bast sewn."


      I was taught at the institute for five years in the state, and when I arrived at the unit I had to forget 95% of what I was taught and start to learn new things, because we haven’t already used the equipment that I studied at the institute, over the past 10 years the park of equipment IS TIME has changed completely, and I have only ONE time been to retraining courses. I'm not talking about those who use this technique there at all horror, we draw pictures (comics) indicating what and in what situations to click.
      1. Max otto
        Max otto 7 October 2013 12: 42 New
        +5
        The state also taught me 5 years, I also thought that this was unnecessary garbage during my work. But 15 years passed and I realized that the state laid the foundation for me with knowledge - the skeleton, and what kind of meat to stick around this skeleton already depends on me. And now, in fact, I can work in any production. Previously, engineers were trained in the full sense of the word. The remote is not important to them, they are with him for 5 minutes. sort it out. Now they are preparing at best highly specialized technicians. Those. they do not form a skeleton, but immediately give pieces of meat. And your words confirm this:
        Quote: roial
        I'm not talking about those who use this technique there at all horror, we draw pictures (comics) indicating what and in what situations to click.
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 October 2013 00: 41 New
        -1
        Actually, we are talking about special forces, as we have noticed, and not about your engineering or automobile university.
    2. roial
      roial 7 October 2013 11: 16 New
      0
      That's exactly what
      not "bast sewn."


      I was taught at the institute for five years in the state, and when I arrived at the unit I had to forget 95% of what I was taught and start to learn new things, because we haven’t already used the equipment that I studied at the institute, over the past 10 years the park of equipment IS TIME has changed completely, and I have only ONE time been to retraining courses. I'm not talking about those who use this technique there at all horror, we draw pictures (comics) indicating what and in what situations to click.
  14. major071
    major071 7 October 2013 11: 24 New
    +7
    We have one very clever Minister of Defense Serdyukov at first closed military schools, dismissed the teaching staff, and in return could not offer anything sensible (or did not want to). On this, he considered his task completed and calmed down.
  15. Larus
    Larus 7 October 2013 11: 29 New
    +1
    Of course, I understand that they have them, but I definitely would not talk about their work, because. they even shot a film about Somalia, and the assassination of Bin Laden raises a lot of questions, not to mention the special operations somewhere where such units are little threatened, and where they are threatened, they, as is often the case, are squandered, ambushed, or even met at least some resistance.
    1. Larus
      Larus 7 October 2013 12: 41 New
      0
      US named goal of failed special operation in Somalia
      http://rus.delfi.lv/news/daily/abroad/ssha-nazvali-cel-neudavshejsya-specoperaci
      iv-somali.d? id = 43711686
      Here's an addition from fresh exploits:
      The US military tried to storm the villa in Baraava, but faced fierce resistance from the militants and was forced to retreat. The operation was carried out by the US Navy special forces unit, which in May 2011 successfully liquidated the leader of Al-Qaeda Osamu bin Laden in Pakistan.
  16. gych
    gych 7 October 2013 12: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: evgenii67
    Although the films show which Americans are patriots, they still fight for money, and what will happen if there is no money, or there will really be a 90% threat to die in battle, they might say "to hell with money." There is a funny video about which special forces are better (Soviet maroon beret and American green). The victory in that video was won by Russian special forces.

    Soviet does not mean that Russian! You don’t feed your family with a sense of duty! Yes, and about the nettle and the green beret, as for me, you write about what you don’t know!
  17. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 7 October 2013 13: 13 New
    +1
    "and the success of its implementation significantly raised Washington's political rating"
    Was military success achieved? Not. Was the tactical task solved? Not. Has a serious impact on the course of the war? Not. PR was held. Everything.
    Serious studies of real experts, not American PR managers, say that intelligence operations are important, but war cannot be won with arbitrarily powerful intelligence. Moreover, overly obvious successes of intelligence operations lead to the loss of allies and the emergence of new enemies. What we, by the way, are now observing on the example of Amer electronic intelligence.
    Special forces do not win wars. It is important, necessary ... but it is a few by definition and imperceptible by necessity elite. Americans shove special forces into air traffic controllers and retractors because their other troops are generally good for nothing but receiving checks. Bad service was rendered to them by their "exclusivity." For the country to win, no Batman is needed. Moreover, one harm from them. John must fight, just plain John. However, let John continue to hysteria, asking for evacuation. Ivan will win. Perm Locksmith ...
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 8 October 2013 06: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Special forces do not win wars.

      And according to their idea, the Caliphate "meat" will fight)). And the special forces will act as bodyguards, information providers and point-strike carriers. So for their war they are preparing correctly)).
  18. Vittt
    Vittt 7 October 2013 15: 00 New
    0
    I still insist that September 11 was a gigantic operation to pre-redistribute the world with an Anglo-Jewish “hornet’s nest.” There are no Arabs in the world who fall into the “needle eye” of skyscrapers.
    1. Dovmont
      Dovmont 7 October 2013 15: 49 New
      +1
      Yes, no one here is going to argue with you about this! From the very beginning it was clear that this was a Washington provocation.
      1. Stalinets
        Stalinets 9 October 2013 07: 15 New
        0
        Washington was making cover. 200 Israelis were arrested in a few days in connection with this event. It is a fact . Washington, say? lol
  19. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 7 October 2013 17: 09 New
    +3
    From my life in Alma-Ata.
    1. A few years ago in one famous Almaty club, such an incident occurred. The drunken US Marine (and everyone knows that the Marines are guarding the US Embassy, ​​in Almaty the embassy was 100 meters from the establishment) wanted to go to this establishment, Friday, it was full of people on the summer landing, the entrance to the establishment was in full view. The guard categorically does not let the Marine drunk. He flees to the embassy and returns with four more marines. They start a fight with this guard. At the same time, the second guard calmly looks at all this, being two meters away. Within a few seconds, ours consistently throws through itself (the classic) all five marines, they stick their heads into the asphalt, and, under the friendly hooting of customers, run away with shame. drinks
    2. Amer special forces came to us with our boys to run through the mountains. On each back there is a backpack the size of a two-compartment refrigerator (water, toilet paper, havch, removable socks and other crap). In short, they died at the very beginning of the run. Ours laughed at them to death. drinks
    Of course they are strong guys, but the shoes, apparently, do not trample, why, when there is a car. And further. My nephew lives in the States. He asks all the time home, in Alma-Ata. Why? "I want to fight." In the United States it is forbidden to fight, he was already 8 years old (!!!) for a fight he was sitting in the dock, flew from his mother.)))) And if it is forbidden to fight, what kind of fighters? drinks drinks
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 7 October 2013 18: 28 New
      +3
      When these muggy jerks marching on the screens with unbearably serious and gallant faces, already breaks through on hee hee. How much do you need to feed all this muscle? And what the hell is it on? Only boards on granite forehead are good for pounding. All this meat cannot, in principle, possess endurance; it’s training muscles - voluminous and useless. And what kind of soldier without stamina? Dough Eaters ...
      1. Stalinets
        Stalinets 9 October 2013 07: 05 New
        +1
        And can you even show one of their window dressing with breaking boards? Link please! About meat, then. yes
    2. Rex
      Rex 8 October 2013 07: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Asan Ata
      From my life in Alma-Ata.
      Each one has a backpack the size of a two-compartment refrigerator drinks


      When these backpacks were introduced in the 90s (curb weight up to 60 kg), they wrote "a trained soldier is able to carry a backpack for several hours." And this is in addition to weapons, ammunition, body armor, helmets ...
      Even then, I was amazed how they are going to recruit and train hundreds of thousands of "mullahs" ...
    3. mikkado31
      mikkado31 9 October 2013 00: 31 New
      +1
      My nephew lives in the States. He asks all the time home, in Alma-Ata. Why? "I want to fight." It’s forbidden to fight in the States


      Why in Almaatu? Let her go to Detroit. There he will immediately become much more peaceful.
      1. Ols76
        Ols76 15 October 2013 07: 38 New
        0
        UTB you correctly noticed))) they will quickly teach you to love your homeland
      2. Ols76
        Ols76 15 October 2013 08: 07 New
        0
        I advise your nephew who lives in the States to go for a walk on the East Side (eastern part) of any big city in the States and you will definitely have to fight or run away. Better yet, transfer him to one of the schools in the eastern part of the city and there will be no problems with fights, though the education will also be appropriate)
    4. Stalinets
      Stalinets 9 October 2013 07: 11 New
      0
      About fights, not worth it. Fight with a wild degree of cruelty. Not to the first blood, but to unconsciousness. There are no brakes. But the rubbish here is working quite seriously. And they grab hold of the descent. yes
    5. Ols76
      Ols76 15 October 2013 08: 08 New
      0
      I advise your nephew who lives in the States to go for a walk on the East Side (eastern part) of any big city in the States and you will definitely have to fight or run away. Better yet, transfer him to one of the schools in the eastern part of the city and there will be no problems with fights, though the education will also be appropriate)
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  21. kci
    kci 7 October 2013 17: 30 New
    0
    laudatory ode to the American army. Well, I do not like them. their somehow closer
  22. leo74
    leo74 7 October 2013 19: 24 New
    +2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KmHMl-OpStE
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  24. leo74
    leo74 7 October 2013 19: 48 New
    +3
    Here is an interesting comparison.
  25. leo74
    leo74 7 October 2013 19: 51 New
    +3

    Here is an independent assessment.
  26. leo74
    leo74 7 October 2013 19: 58 New
    -2

    This is a real combat landing of American special forces in Iraq.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 7 October 2013 21: 13 New
      +2
      more like children, as they have not yet shot each other
    2. USMC
      USMC 7 October 2013 21: 35 New
      +7
      Quote: leo74
      This is a real combat landing of American special forces in Iraq.

      answer, and when is the American special forces running in the British desert camouflage DPM with L85A2 rifles ????? This is a training landing of the British Marines !!!!!!!!
      1. leo74
        leo74 8 October 2013 15: 18 New
        0
        No difference. If they have such landings in exercises, then what can we expect from them in a real battle ...?
        1. USMC
          USMC 8 October 2013 17: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: leo74
          No difference. If they have such landings in exercises, then what can we expect from them in a real battle ...?

          want to say that the Russian marines in the same situation, forgive me, Lord Sinful, how could Jesus run along the waves and the surface of the swamp ?????
    3. Stalinets
      Stalinets 9 October 2013 07: 01 New
      0
      These are the teachings. Why lie? This is a well-known shot for a long time.
  27. Brave
    Brave 7 October 2013 21: 08 New
    0
    Quote: MajorDok
    And about the delta article on the site is

    read, read ... that article is more like the truth
    PS "honest Jew" I recommend to read ...
  28. pensioner
    pensioner 7 October 2013 21: 30 New
    +1
    How could I forget !! fool My former cadet wrote me a letter at one time. The present. on paper. Lives in Crimea (in Sevastopol?). So amerovsky special forces have already come to them a long time ago. They started running around the mountains. My former cadet was running after them with a poster expressing the idea of ​​the main population of Crimea: but I shouldn’t go to you ... I wrote that they quickly took a step ... He was even surprised ... He wrote that he himself could have 1 run an hour. I remember: how our cadets were jerked off physically ... I was not surprised.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 7 October 2013 22: 10 New
      0
      Yes, minus, minus ... I remember then: how our cadets masturbate ... I was still in shape then. tried with them 100m. run. With 1 course (!. I already am silent for senior courses ...) But already in the spring ... They are in boots, and we are teachers (the rules also physically apply to us ... Not by order, but even so ... ) in sneakers. With great difficulty, I ran a hundred in 15 seconds. My friend is for 14. We were LAST !! Like this!!
  29. Pinachet
    Pinachet 7 October 2013 23: 35 New
    +2
    Quote: honest Jew
    If the Russian special forces are so cool, then why did the 2 Chechens lose? As always, waving his fists through the air !!!

    only a dim-witted person can say that
  30. Stalinets
    Stalinets 8 October 2013 05: 14 New
    +2
    Which bin laden? He died in a hospital in December of that year. I’m reading reviews and I can’t stop wondering about the stupidity of some scribes .... Maybe (God forbid) Russian special forces are better, but think about what the hell ammunition depots in the Pacific Fleet take off into the air? Spetsnaz can be counteracted only by special forces. . Where is it .... Even if their special forces are qualitatively inferior to ours, although not by many, then quantitatively, Russia is still far away. Do not underestimate the enemy ... And it will be like with Povetkin ....
    1. leo74
      leo74 8 October 2013 16: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Stalinist
      Which bin laden? He died in a hospital in December of that year. I’m reading reviews and I can’t stop wondering about the stupidity of some scribes .... Maybe (God forbid) Russian special forces are better, but think about what the hell ammunition depots in the Pacific Fleet take off into the air? Spetsnaz can be counteracted only by special forces. . Where is it .... Even if their special forces are qualitatively inferior to ours, although not by many, then quantitatively, Russia is still far away. Do not underestimate the enemy ... And it will be like with Povetkin ....

      About bin Laden, here is a fairy tale written by a pitchfork on the water, no one will ever know the truth. About the quantitative preponderance of special forces, so this is all not essential. The main advantage of the special forces is stealth and surprise when performing a combat mission. As soon as the enemy special forces are discovered, his mission is considered failed and the internal troops, even consisting of simple conscripts, come to fight with him and tell me the chances of the discovered special forces to survive are very low despite their number and training. When I went through an emergency in VV, we were often trained to block and destroy enemy sabotage squads, and our guys from the special forces were trained in the way of survival in our opposition. So the most difficult part was the discovery of such a detachment, and the smaller the detachment, the more difficult it was to find it. But, if he was discovered, his fate was decided, and out of 10 cases in 9, this detachment was blocked and conditionally destroyed by ordinary conscripts, despite good physical training and special forces equipment. So the number of Rambo in the US Army does not play a big significant role, the main thing in this profession is brains and ingenuity, and in this our guys are significantly superior to Amers.
      1. Stalinets
        Stalinets 9 October 2013 06: 31 New
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        Ischo alone? When did I say Rambo ???????? Believe me, with all due respect to the ARMY special forces of Russia (because the cops are nits), American special forces are strong enough not to make any garbage, just because there is such an opportunity. VV against saboteurs?!?!?!? Against a saboteur can work successfully ONLY a saboteur. Leave all your stories about educational blocking for your mother-in-law. She does not understand and appreciate. Not only you served ..... About pitchfork on the water, behave yourself decently .......
        1. Growler
          Growler 9 October 2013 23: 34 New
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          Quote: Stalinist
          Ischo alone? When did I say Rambo ???????? Believe me, with all due respect to the ARMY special forces of Russia (for cop, it's nits ), American special forces, a serious enough force not to make any bullshit, just because there is such an opportunity. VV against saboteurs?!?!?!? Against a saboteur can work successfully ONLY a saboteur. Leave all your stories about educational blocking for your mother-in-law. She does not understand and appreciate. Not only you served ..... About pitchfork on the water, behave yourself decently .......

          + quadrillion
  31. leo74
    leo74 8 October 2013 15: 46 New
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    Quote: Stalinist
    Americans will never allow such losses .... They immediately raise the bombers and carpet bombing begins. This is not for you Zhukov on the Zeelovsky heights ... These warriors are not shy about turning the landscape into a moon ... Plus, their artillery is very good.

    And what will happen if the clash takes place in close proximity to each other, up to hand-to-hand ...? Or do you think that ours will allow themselves to be bombed with impunity from afar ...?
    1. Stalinets
      Stalinets 9 October 2013 06: 21 New
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      And here is one to the other? I wrote about the seizure, what is there, Panama ... And you are talking about hypothetics .... Hold on to the pharaoh ... Stop starting silly discussions ....
  32. me
    me 8 October 2013 19: 28 New
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    Since the training is practically the same in almost all countries, I think technical equipment and equipment come to the fore, and it is probably worse for us than for Amers.
  33. specKFOR
    specKFOR 8 October 2013 19: 28 New
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    About patriotism and other "big" words .. The same people as us will serve in the States. Why do they go to serve in our army on a contract basis? 90% - people have nowhere to work for a "civilian" and 10% - for their other convictions. The United States goes to the army for honey. insurance for ALL family members, salaries, the opportunity to study for free after college at the College. Not sickly, right?! We have, stupidly, for a salary. For training. In the United States, a shitty reservist goes to hot spots every two years with the participation of the United States, and as you know, fighting is not about firing plywood ... Well, the preparation is appropriate. I visited state bases in Germany, there entire cities were rebuilt to work out . I saw the cities for operations in Afghanistan, Kosovo. This is for the simple infantry. And there the soldiers do not "slaughter", "mow", etc. in the classroom.
    1. Stalinets
      Stalinets 9 October 2013 06: 34 New
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      Absolutely true. They have an approach to preparation, absolutely serious ....
  34. mikkado31
    mikkado31 9 October 2013 00: 45 New
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    I read 90% of the comments here and realized that we have nothing to fear from Russia.
  35. Stalinets
    Stalinets 9 October 2013 06: 53 New
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    We all wish Russia to be reborn and rise. Just need to really look at things !!! Do not underestimate the enemy !!! Forgot 93 year? And this is the work of the special forces .. 4 Israeli Special Forces brigade "Jericho" took part in the "revolution". This is a well-known fact. They created situations when they wet their own. It was they who shot at the backs of soldiers and ordinary Muscovites. They shot it under the Humpback Bridge and at the stadium ... Beitar, this is a cover. I have already mentioned all kinds of explosions in ammunition depots at the Pacific Fleet and not only. They are not taking off from the “bull-calves” into the air. This is the work of the special forces .... But ours, however, run the fastest. Cool, really ... You need to know the enemy in person and be prepared to meet him ..
  36. leo74
    leo74 9 October 2013 16: 32 New
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    Quote: Stalinist
    Ischo alone? When did I say Rambo ???????? Believe me, with all due respect to the ARMY special forces of Russia (because the cops are nits), American special forces are strong enough not to make any garbage, just because there is such an opportunity. VV against saboteurs?!?!?!? Against a saboteur can work successfully ONLY a saboteur. Leave all your stories about educational blocking for your mother-in-law. She does not understand and appreciate. Not only you served ..... About pitchfork on the water, behave yourself decently .......

    Here you are just bullshit and city. A saboteur cannot work against a saboteur because he was taught not to catch his own kind, but to commit sabotage, engage in reconnaissance and do all kinds of dirty tricks in the rear of the enemy. Special groups are engaged in the capture of sabotage squads and for the most part this is the task of the explosives. Competent blocking of the terrain and ambush events, that is the key to success in destroying someone else’s special forces and can’t do without regular BB units here.
    And what indecent did I say about Bin Laden ...? Or do you have 100% information about his death ...? Heard different versions about him and believe in the one that more or less suits you ...
    1. mikkado31
      mikkado31 9 October 2013 23: 08 New
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      The Stalinist is right. Only saboteurs similar to them can work against saboteurs. VV has completely different tasks (suppressing riots, rebellions and capturing runaway prisoners). But a well-trained saboteur is not a runaway prisoner or provocateur ... This is not a job for maroon berets.
      1. Growler
        Growler 9 October 2013 23: 40 New
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        Quote: mikkado31
        The Stalinist is right. Only saboteurs similar to them can work against saboteurs. VV has completely different tasks (suppressing riots, rebellions and capturing runaway prisoners) And a well-trained saboteur is not a runaway prisoner or provocateur ... This is work not for maroon berets.

        not for punitive units ...
        1. Stalinets
          Stalinets 10 October 2013 01: 41 New
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          That's right. yes
    2. Stalinets
      Stalinets 10 October 2013 01: 38 New
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      That's all that is required of the cops is to block the terrain. And I do not argue with you. And to calculate a saber saboteur, can only be like him. The law of nature ... Why are you putting yourself in a stupid position? ... request
  37. Puler
    Puler 12 October 2013 01: 34 New
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    Spirit and ingenuity acquired during an emergency with us they (pi ... myself) can not see.
  38. Stasi
    Stasi 13 October 2013 00: 14 New
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    A laudatory article, such as the American special forces, is the coolest in the world. Meanwhile, it does not say anything about how the American special forces showed themselves in battle with the special forces of foreign armies. This is the only way to evaluate the quality of US special forces.
    1. mikkado31
      mikkado31 15 October 2013 02: 52 New
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      Do you take it all away? Special forces versus special forces are show-offs and window dressing for the public in the circus.

      Special forces are deployed against terrorists, the release of hostages and sabotage operations. American special forces are quite competent and trained. I myself talked to them. Modest, without ambition, do not thump, vests on the chest do not tear, do not jump into the fountain. Quietly do their job.
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 15 October 2013 04: 38 New
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        What is your special forces? With VSK-1 standards of the USSR Armed Forces? In Mogadishu, your special forces had what they wanted! They say about your delta, special forces that do not know victories!
      2. Massik
        Massik 15 October 2013 05: 03 New
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        Well, you do not compare the Airborne Forces and the military personnel
        do not plump, vests on the chest do not tear, do not jump into the fountain.
        for the most part have already served, fed up the fat airborne
    2. Ols76
      Ols76 15 October 2013 06: 39 New
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      there is no failure only for the one who does nothing.
  39. Ols76
    Ols76 15 October 2013 19: 39 New
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    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Ols76
    Alexander Romanov, immediately minus, there is essentially nothing to answer?

    I’ll spend a lot of information, but minus the return on yours and for your lies!
    - Group homosexual rape, one of the most painful phenomena in the American army,voprosik.net
    Join the U.S. Army is an opportunity to be raped by patriots wassat

    Alexander, honestly admit you head that you can’t get into the US Army? ))) ... You are so clearly showing interest in the topic of homosexuality.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 October 2013 06: 02 New
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      Quote: Ols76

      Alexander, honestly admit you head that you can’t get into the US Army? )))

      No, the American army is a barrier to my dream. To open the toilet in the Oval Office of the White House. Obama will scrub the toilet there.
      Quote: Ols76
      You are so clearly showing interest in the topic of homosexuality.

      Yes, especially when their ardent defenders appear on the site. We clean the site. Yes and then, why are you so proud of the American army, are not proud of its gay patriotic soldiers? It’s not good, undemocratic, it’s your American brothers who defend America’s interests. Be proud of them. good
      1. Ols76
        Ols76 16 October 2013 19: 07 New
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        Alexander, Stop deleting my comment; there is nothing in them that contradicts the rules of the site. You as a moderator should understand this.
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 16 October 2013 19: 15 New
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          Quote: Ols76
          Alexander, stop deleting my comments

          Your comment has been deleted by me. This is the first.
          Quote: Ols76
          there is nothing in them that contradicts the rules of the site.

          The second, in a letter to the PM addressed to you, I indicated the violation and the reason why you were punished.
          Quote: Ols76
          You as a moderator should understand this.

          Despite the warning, you repeated the word for word, repeated and published the comment I deleted. For this reason, deleted your second comment. Publish again, get a second warning.
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 16 October 2013 19: 22 New
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            Greetings, the mailbox is full.
          2. Ols76
            Ols76 16 October 2013 19: 32 New
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            It's just some 37 years old, why don't forum marshals give me answers?
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  42. nastran123
    nastran123 27 November 2013 17: 38 New
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    Judging by the photo, the US special forces can be recognized by the jaw.