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China presents not only an economic, but also an ideological challenge to the West

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The leadership of the Communist Party of China circulated among the members of the CPC a circular in which Western democratic values ​​are defined as a threat to the country's national security.




The Chinese know firsthand what "Western democracy" is ... Yuanmingyuan are the ruins of the Old Summer Palace of the Chinese emperors, once compared with Versailles. The Chinese authorities essentially refused to restore it. The ruins show the true appearance of Western democracy. The palace was destroyed by English and French marauders in 1860 at the conclusion of the Second Opium War. The circumstances leading up to her were as follows.

As soon as the Crimean War ended, the winners — Britain and France, as well as the United States that joined them — fell on China. In 1856, with the signing of the Paris Peace, the Crimean campaign ends and the Second Opium War begins in the same year. The reasons for the opium wars unleashed by the West, paradoxically, were related to the tea trade. It is known what importance the tea had in the system of consumption of the English. Tea drinking has become virtually an English national ritual. However, the necessary financial resources for the purchase of tea in the necessary volumes from England was not available. The Chinese did not recognize foreign currency, and agreed to sell tea only in exchange for silver bars. But the requirements for tea in England were such that the total world reserves of silver would not be enough to satisfy them. This meant a dilemma: either to abandon the current system of consumption of the British gentleman, or to find the appropriate barter. Russia has found furs as such a barter. English became barter opium. "Opium ships" began to be organized for shipment to China as early as the 70s of the 18th century. Opium in Bengal plunged on ships that went to China, where the smuggled goods were exchanged for tea, and he went to London. The belated attempts of the Chinese authorities to counteract this scheme became the cause of two opium wars. West breast defended free trade, despite the fact that the goods in it was opium.

In China, they are well aware that in order to ensure their domination and just a comfortable life (for example, to consume tea). West is ready to repeat the script 1860 of the year. To avoid this, China must be sovereign and strong. But how can this be achieved under the conditions of the hegemony of the West?
And here begins a great geopolitical game.

She was started in 1970-e years. Maoist China was by that time a scarecrow of the Western world. But here, in their relationship there is a fundamental turn. The West began to work on strengthening China, creating a geopolitical counterweight to the USSR. Supporter of the concept of "Chinese counterweight" was, for example, Z. Brzezinski. Western investment flowed into China. A large part of the western industrial sector was transferred there. China, along with a number of other East Asian countries, is becoming the “assembly workshop” of the West.

China, in turn, refuses to frighten the West with Maoist ideologies. Denotes the drift vector of China in the direction of capitalism. But at the same time limits of retreat were set. China has never abandoned the communist ideology. To make sure of this, it is enough to open the PRC Constitution adopted in 1982.

Inside the Chinese elite, there are currently two main clan groups. Conventionally, they are referred to as the "Shanghai" and "Beijing" clans. Shanghai - supporters of Deng Xiaoping. The Shanghai scenario was a scenario of the capitalist drift of the PRC. Peking are sticking to the left platform. Their ideology is neomaoism.

For a long time, power was concentrated in the hands of the Shanghai group.

The view was replicated that modern China is concerned exclusively with the economy, while the tasks of external ideological expansion are not in the current development agenda. But now, China has reached the position when it can already be positioned as a superpower, capable of challenging the struggle for world hegemony of the United States.

In accordance with this challenge of time, the position of the Pekingans in China is strengthening. The Secretary General of the CPC Central Committee, Xi Jinping, who was chosen in 2012 initially, was assessed as a compromise figure between the Shanghai and Pekingans. But, having come to power, he definitely took the side of the Peking clan. This was manifested in both political steps and personnel appointments. The PRC, with him, will obviously strengthen ideological propaganda.
The world is once again entering a period of global struggle of ideologies. China is more and more definitely trying to take the position of one of the poles in this fight.
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  1. Savva30
    Savva30 7 October 2013 08: 17 New
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    As long as China butts with “Western economic values,” we need to bring our armed forces in proper condition. I am sure this will not hurt ...
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 7 October 2013 08: 24 New
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      Quote: Savva30
      we need to bring our armed forces in proper condition. I am sure this will not hurt ...

      This is paramount!
    2. Guun
      Guun 7 October 2013 08: 24 New
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      Qualitatively and quantitatively in another way. Keep your ear sharp and your fists ready.
    3. gsg955
      gsg955 7 October 2013 08: 53 New
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      China is always only for itself and it is only necessary to rely on its army and navy.
      1. Pit
        Pit 7 October 2013 09: 12 New
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        Quote: Savva30
        we need to bring our armed forces in proper condition

        Quote: gsg955
        you need to rely only on your army and navy.

        The army and navy are half the battle. Without the correct idiology, practically useless projects. To fight, a soldier needs not only weapons, but a goal, an incentive, the rear for which he is ready to die. And if this is not, then no one will fight for anything.
        Something like this
        1. matross
          matross 7 October 2013 10: 39 New
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          Quote: Pit
          The army and navy are half the battle. Virtually useless projects without proper idiology

          You are a huge plus !! We need a new intelligible state ideology. Art. 13.2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation - repeal and forget as a nightmare of liberalism!
          1. Kibalchish
            Kibalchish 7 October 2013 13: 21 New
            +2
            Then half the constitution must be abolished. There is a big hour anti-people.
            1. matross
              matross 7 October 2013 14: 43 New
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              Quote: Kibalchish
              There is a big hour anti-people

              But will it not be more specific?
      2. vostok1982
        vostok1982 7 October 2013 10: 07 New
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        Why for yourself? First he was for the USSR, then for the USA.
      3. I do not care
        I do not care 7 October 2013 20: 13 New
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        I don’t agree. They’re on their minds. The Chinese are planning for generations and the Chinese will forgive the Chinese for understanding. In the foreseeable future they are clear, the current will pull it further?
    4. silver_roman
      silver_roman 7 October 2013 11: 22 New
      +7
      that's right
      First of all, the General Staff of the Far Eastern Military District should be moved away from the borders with China. Now he stands in Khabarovsk, and this is under the nose of China.
      I recently read somewhere that we have inflatable soldiers on the border with China)). I don’t know how much this is true and how many there are, but it looks creepy. hope this is nonsense.

      Recently, in Russia, under the pressure of the media of our "Western friends", the threat of the PLA imposed on our society has been growing. Like, be afraid, the Russians, not us, but the Chinese.
      On the part of our rulers (Putin and Xi Jinping), not a little effort has been made to extinguish these phobias in the bud, but the fifth column does not doze off. I am sure that there are many formal and hidden agreements on cooperation in various fields between our countries, but as history shows, when the conversation comes to war, everyone spits on every face of the agreement. WWII it clearly showed.
      But first, China needs to get Taiwan, and then think about Siberia and the Far East.
      In addition, it is clear to everyone that if a conflict arises between the Russian Federation and China, both sides will be fed from the west in order to weaken both sides to the maximum. I am sure that both sides understand and take this into account.
      But in no way can one ignore China’s explicit preparations for conflict. It is not for nothing that the infrastructure near our borders is being adjusted at a shocking pace. Roads are being built, entire divisions are deployed.
      I would like to ask experts: how is it even possible to fight with China ?? if earlier it was a rough and disorganized horde, now China is moving from quantity to quality. How can we answer? What to do when the mobilization resource of China is several times greater than the population of our country ??? The question is open. Any opinion is interesting!
      1. Pit
        Pit 7 October 2013 12: 06 New
        +5
        Quote: silver_roman
        how to fight at all is possible with China ??

        You can’t fight with your own hands. They can’t be destroyed, they are too much
        a lot of.
        But if suddenly a threat comes from them, then the only thing that remains
        to do is try to pit them with Japan, the Philippines, India
        or with someone else. And help morally and financially to those who are with them
        is fighting.
        Of course, I understand that from an ethical point of view, this is bestiality, but with
        the point of view of the survival of the people is relatively justified.
        Although, it’s better to try to prevent this from happening at all.
        But do not forget that China, like the west, but in other matters, like everyone else,
        respects only power.
        In no case should you show them weakness and they will be like
        silk.
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 7 October 2013 13: 44 New
          +1
          Of course, I understand that from an ethical point of view, this is bestiality, but with
          the point of view of the survival of the people is relatively justified.

          this is not bestiality, this is survival and the struggle for one’s own country. I agree with you that it will be necessary to look for allies.
          Thank God that in our time everything is too tied to each other. If China attacks the Russian Federation, it will bare its other flanks. In India, too, are not fools and understand that the dispute over Tibet just does not sink into history. Japan, too, will quickly try to crush its islands. By the way, they are unlikely to forget about the Kuril Islands.
          There it will be necessary to carry out special operations, i.e. to blow up some Chinese ship with an Indian shell is a diversion of our specialists. The trick is as old as the world, but effective now.
          I hope that all of this scenario can be avoided!
      2. Tartary
        Tartary 7 October 2013 16: 58 New
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        Quote: silver_roman
        Recently, in Russia, under the pressure of the media of our "Western friends", the threat of the PLA imposed on our society has been growing. Like, be afraid, the Russians, not us, but the Chinese.

        So you yourself below join the above yourself in the following statement -
        Quote: silver_roman
        But in no way can one ignore China’s explicit preparations for conflict. It is not for nothing that the infrastructure near our borders is being adjusted at a shocking pace. Roads are being built, entire divisions are deployed.

        Where do you get this about the new divisions deployed at the borders of the Russian Far East? Do not share?
        I hope not to repeat the mantram, as you said yourself, of “Western friends”?
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 8 October 2013 14: 12 New
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          So you yourself below join the above yourself in the following statement -

          let's say this: my good friend currently lives in China. He was amazed at how much literature was published there that was anti-Russian. Namely, their right to our territories. Of course, if such literature is published in a communist state, then publications get the go-ahead for it. This is what yes says.
          This is clearly not spam. On forums on the Internet the same thing.
          that and if you recall Damansky, then one thing to win in, and another thing to cut off the head. Again, all this is possibly a thrown duck, at the expense of those barbarities that the Chinese committed on our border guards. I do not have access to secret archives unfortunately. Accounted for scoop from available sources.

          Where do you get this about new divisions deployed at the borders of the Russian Far East

          I can’t tell you the exact link, because I read a lot of literature and I don’t remember where I read it. Of course, I got excited about rumors in the guise of facts, but I want to ask you a question: do you think that the threat from the Southeast is contrived for Russia and we can be absolutely calm about this ??? The question is sincere and frank ... no catch ie! hi
    5. honest jew
      honest jew 7 October 2013 12: 58 New
      +4
      What nonsense about tea? Then the war would be called Tea! And here we are talking about Opium. The author is a complete ignoramus of a near mind !!! At least I would not have studied a lot before writing such articles !!!

      The first opium war of 1840–1842 was the war of Great Britain against the Qing Empire. The aim of the British troops was to protect the trade interests of Great Britain in China, and to expand trade, primarily opium (hence the name), which was hindered by the Qing policy of banning maritime trade.

      The second opium war was the war of Great Britain and France with the Qing Empire, which lasted from 1856 to 1860.

      The powers claimed the right of unlimited trade throughout China, the admission of their permanent ambassadors to Beijing, the official right to trade opium!

      The Opium War of 1967 (also called Events on the Mekong River in the Soviet press) is a trilateral clash between armed groups controlling the extraction and processing of opium in the Golden Triangle at the junction of the borders of Burma, Thailand and Laos on the Mekong River.

      The territory of the Golden Triangle was virtually beyond the control of any government. In Burmese territory in the state of Shan, there was a long-term civil war with the confrontation of numerous factions (see. The Civil War in Burma). A protracted civil war was also waged in Laos, weighed down by the intervention of the United States and Vietnam (see The Vietnam War, The Secret War in Laos). The border territories of Thailand were controlled by partisan armies and communists.

      Extensive CIA intervention in the region (primarily in Laos) caused a sharp increase in demand for opium and the organization of a network for transporting opium, purification at heroin factories, and shipping to Hong Kong and the United States. In such circumstances, there must have been conflicts related to drug trafficking.

      Author Bagdasaryan V ---- Drink tea and Teach the materiel of history sonny !!!! hi


      PS What will change tea to Opium? If you find one, then let me know, I'll change my tea for him !!!
      1. Max otto
        Max otto 7 October 2013 14: 22 New
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        Quote: honest Jew
        PS What [dyrak] will change tea to Opium? If you find one, then let me know, I'll change my tea for him !!!

        Oh, I'm wildly sorry, embarrassed to ask, why do you need opium ???
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 7 October 2013 18: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: Max Otto

          Oh, I'm wildly sorry, embarrassed to ask, why do you need opium ???

          Pharmacology.
          1. Max otto
            Max otto 8 October 2013 10: 03 New
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            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Max Otto

            Oh, I'm wildly sorry, embarrassed to ask, why do you need opium ???

            Pharmacology.

            Oh, I again wilderly apologize, and your mother is in the know, are you a couple of pharmacologists? Profitable business?

            Aron, I know why opium is needed, I can’t understand why it is for a private person. (I can better understand, but that doesn’t color him). Yes, and that was humor. hi
      2. BBM
        BBM 7 October 2013 23: 06 New
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        Quote: honest Jew
        What nonsense about tea? Then the war would be called Tea! And here we are talking about Opium. The author is a complete ignoramus of a near mind !!! At least I would not have studied a lot before writing such articles !!!

        Well, I wouldn’t speak so sharply about the author. The article is generally true. Although the compilation of facts is a little bit moronic :)
    6. Lukich
      Lukich 8 October 2013 22: 14 New
      0
      Today, the Chinese need Russia. And tomorrow ???
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 8 October 2013 22: 17 New
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        Quote: Lukich
        Today, the Chinese need Russia. And tomorrow ???
        And tomorrow - even more needed. Such a sales market with a short delivery shoulder still look ... The US market is gradually being phased out. Again, where will the Chinese run away who are tired of building a bright future under the leadership of the CPC Central Committee? lol
  2. Sergeant
    Sergeant 7 October 2013 08: 18 New
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    The leadership of the Communist Party of China circulated among the members of the CPC a circular in which Western democratic values ​​are defined as a threat to the country's national security.


    When will we circulate such a circular? smile
    It’s time already! ...
    1. Egen
      Egen 7 October 2013 10: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergeant
      When will we circulate such a circular

      Duck they have - the Communist Party, and we ... :(
  3. Alikovo
    Alikovo 7 October 2013 08: 21 New
    +4
    China also has a desire to be a hegemon in our world.
    1. Guun
      Guun 7 October 2013 08: 27 New
      +3
      And for this, the United States will put pressure on China. And the Chinese are not fools, pretend to be where necessary. They are waiting and gaining power without further ado.
    2. alone
      alone 7 October 2013 21: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Alikovo
      China also has a desire to be a hegemon in our world.


      already, my friend has already appeared! and look at the pace they are realizing their plans. if honestly, even a little I envy these people. the face is the fact that the government and people act for the good of their state.
  4. ReifA
    ReifA 7 October 2013 08: 21 New
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    I look at China with white envy. Here's how you could do it ..
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 7 October 2013 09: 01 New
      +6
      Quote: ReifA
      I look at China with white envy. Here's how you could do it ..

      This one? About 128 million people live in China with an income of less than $ 368 per year. Most of the poor live in rural areas, not covered by the rapid growth of production, which has been observed in China over the past several decades. Those. almost almost 88,8% of Russia's population in China is poor .... And at the same time, according to Forbes magazine, there are 122 billionaires in China, which means that the modern Celestial Empire takes the second place in the world in the number of billionaires.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 7 October 2013 09: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: Tersky
        This one? About 128 million people live in China with incomes of less than $ 368 per year. Most of the poor live in rural areas, not covered by the rapid growth of production, which has been observed in China over the past several decades.

        - “Some Russians still believe that earnings in China are significantly lower than those in Russia - and the people of China are literally working for a bowl of rice. However, this is actually not the case. The average earnings of low-skilled workers in China last year exceeded $ 360 a month, then there are about 11 thousand rubles, which is more than millions of our fellow citizens are receiving today, even in the center of Russia the authorities still set the task of raising the minimum wage to 10–11 thousand rubles a month.
        In 2012, the average monthly income of Chinese migrant workers with a rural residence permit averaged 2290 yuan, an increase of 11,8% over the previous year. This was reported by Xinhua News Agency correspondents, who received this data at a national meeting with the participation of the heads of the offices of migrant workers affairs with rural registration "-
        To this we can add that prices in the Chinese outback are much lower than prices in Russia, plus a significant portion of the income in China is received by people in the form of a preferential distribution of goods (as in the USSR).
        1. EVIL
          EVIL 7 October 2013 09: 46 New
          +8
          I can confirm.
          In spring and summer, our employees were in China.
          In the city, the average salary is 30 rubles in terms of our money.

          And what is important - the general feeling of those who were there - FOOT! CHINA is already not the same ... Everywhere the latest technology, went down the subway - walked with bulging eyes.
          It used to be dirty - now it's clean.

          Do not underestimate China and think cliche.

          Further quote (not our employee)
          An interesting Chinese answer to a question from a Russian - So when will China begin to supply high-quality fasteners? “Then when the Russians start ordering it, as all of Europe is doing, and not taking the cheapest ...”
          1. Egen
            Egen 7 October 2013 11: 06 New
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            Quote: EVIL
            It used to be dirty - now it's clean

            I’ll fix it a bit - it’s become more clean. But all the same, I turned off the main street into the lane - it’s scary, I want to run out of rhinestone, and I’m completely silent about smells :) And this is in cities from 4-5 million people - that is, in regional centers :)
            Quote: EVIL
            when the Russians start ordering it, as the whole of Europe does, and not take the cheapest

            Corresponds to reality. However, we must admit that we mainly order not us - manufacturers directly, but resellers who are of course profitable to bring what is cheaper and where there is more "fat" - marginal profit. If you travel around China - yes, there, behind the fence of one manufacturer of cheap goods, you can find the same but with higher quality - for every taste in general. And there are dozens and sometimes even hundreds of options in China. But it’s necessary to ride them, drink vodka, feel for goods and bargain for a couple of cents, and this requires considerable funds, which few in Russia have ...
        2. Egen
          Egen 7 October 2013 10: 57 New
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          Quote: Odyssey
          To this we can add that prices in the Chinese outback are much lower than prices in Russia

          ... and prices and expenses in general, but all because of the warm climate and low capital costs in the cost structure - half-brick walls, lack of heating (only air conditioning for heat).
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 7 October 2013 11: 13 New
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            Quote: Egen
            ... and prices and expenses in general, but all because of the warm climate and low capital costs in the cost structure - half-brick walls, lack of heating (only air conditioners for heat

            I agree, but not throughout China. I don’t know the exact numbers, so I can be wrong, but I doubt very much that the capital expenditures in Tibet and Xinjiang are lower than the Russian ones. Well, the climate in Heilundjiang is similar to the Far East. Well, I agree with the rest of China.
            1. Egen
              Egen 7 October 2013 11: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: Odyssey
              I doubt that capital expenditures in Tibet and Xinjiang are lower than Russian

              Dear Odysseus hi , of course, but production is by many% concentrated from Beijing and to the south and southeast to the sea, where it is warm. In Beijing it was both summer and winter, snow, the temperature was cold, but somehow not so ... chilly as we have with such T. In a hotel on 2 there are 2 rooms with simple Chinese air conditioning - and Dushanbe is said to be direct :) In the districts of Shanghai and to the south (I can’t say it :)) it also snows there, but the people at the factories simply have enough heat from the equipment, or they saw electric heaters in their offices, and air conditioners at small enterprises only at large authorities save, however ...
        3. DmitriRazumov
          DmitriRazumov 7 October 2013 17: 44 New
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          Quote: Odyssey
          - “Some Russians still believe that earnings in China are much lower than Russian - and the inhabitants of the Middle Kingdom are literally working for a bowl of rice. However, this is actually not the case.

          It should be borne in mind that in China there is no concept of state pension, according to the law of the elderly, children must be supported, and there is no concept of free medical care. If you bring someone to the hospital’s emergency room (even if there is an emergency patient or accident), you must pay for it. There are no concepts of any social security ... And these are the main state expenditures for any civilized state.
        4. Tersky
          Tersky 7 October 2013 21: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: Odyssey
          - “Some Russians still believe that earnings in China are much lower than those in Russia - and the people of China are literally working for a bowl of rice. However, this is actually not the case. The average earnings of low-skilled workers in China last year exceeded 360 dollars a month, there are about 11 thousand rubles.

          It is you who tell Romanov, he is just their neighbor, and he will devote to you how many Chinese "earn" 360 $, in the Far East. Why is there DV, we have them in Pyatigorsk a lot, it can be seen from the "stable" salary in China on dry land They are sitting in Russia ...
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 7 October 2013 10: 19 New
        +2
        An incorrect comparison, in China the population is about 1320 million people, “below the poverty line” - 128 million people, or about 9,7%. For comparison, we have “below the poverty line” in most studies of living standards figure in approximately 15% of the population. And if you recount the percentage of billionaires in the total population of the country here, in Russia, and in China, then you can not remember about China.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 7 October 2013 11: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        This one? About 128 million people live in China with incomes of less than $ 368 per year.

        And what are the prices for all of them? How much does housing cost? They live well with this money, and they will live. China has not given up its currency to the Americans.
    2. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick 7 October 2013 10: 38 New
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      Reading between the lines, I realized what you mean
  5. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 7 October 2013 08: 23 New
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    The leadership of the Communist Party of China circulated among the members of the CPC a circular in which Western democratic values ​​are defined as a threat to the country's national security.

    Well done Chinese. They do not give a damn about them to the West; It is a pity that looking back at the West is still considered the norm. Euro rot is getting accustomed to us, it starts pumping rights.
  6. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 7 October 2013 08: 23 New
    +3
    from the Don.
    Only China would not have suffered in the direction of exclusivity: yellow: race! And so-a flag in their hands! And do not forget about your own ideology and its propaganda!
  7. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 7 October 2013 08: 27 New
    +3
    This sooner or later was to happen.
    China is increasingly trying to take the position of one of the poles in this struggle.

    NO POLES, yet. China is trying to create a pole.
  8. svskor80
    svskor80 7 October 2013 08: 33 New
    +1
    Chinese ideology is able to withstand the rest of the world of Western ideology of consumption, something is not visible. And the Chinese themselves are addicted to consumption, the benefit of rich people is already a lot. If now to tangle everything, then communist China may crack at the seams.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 7 October 2013 10: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: svskor80
      If now to tangle everything, then communist China may crack at the seams.

      While the Communists openly, publicly demonstrate the fight against bribe takers and embezzlers, they are not shy about punishing them in full, nothing threatens Communist China.
  9. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 7 October 2013 08: 44 New
    +5
    America woke up, begins to withdraw production from China. Only late, they themselves with a mustache. They copied everything they wanted, especially without bothering about copyright, or even openly giving a damn about them. Typically, the Eastern approach, they managed to turn their economic weakness and cheap labor into force. Without loud cries, “catch up and overtake” catch up and overtake. Well done. There is something to envy.
  10. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 7 October 2013 08: 57 New
    +4
    China, of course, will not impose a communist ideology on anyone, but it will firmly uphold its national interests. At the same time, Chinese socialism has its own specific features:
    "According to a survey conducted by Western scholars several years ago, 40 percent of the capitalists surveyed by them have already joined the party (that's twice as many as in 1980), and another 20 percent would like to join. A rather high figure, given that in The CCP consists of only about 5 percent of the country's population.

    The objectives of such cooperation, for both one and the other, are obvious. The party is getting rid of the potential threat posed by the capitalists to the political stability of society. At the same time, party cells are created in enterprises to control entrepreneurs; however, their effectiveness is highly doubtful. The fact is that in connection with the long ban on the admission of businessmen to the party, entrepreneurs were cool about attempts to create cells at their enterprises. If cells exist, then their role can easily be reduced to absurdity. So, Zhang Zhuimin, president of Hyer Corporation, China’s largest manufacturer of household electrical appliances, when asked how it turned out that he, the company’s chairman, is also the head of his party organization, answered: “I appointed myself a party organizer. So it turns out that I cannot have conflicts with myself, right? ”.Http: //www.daokedao.ru/2012/07/04/krasnaya-shapka-dlya-biz
    nesa /
    1. hrych
      hrych 7 October 2013 09: 32 New
      +4
      It’s more likely that if a party member, then the road is open for you, if not, then, like all 18 hours for a cup of rice and not any social media. Bosilaya’s case was brought to a high-profile trial only because his wife (of course, like a Luzhkov woman - a brilliant businessman) soaked a foreigner, but rather because of an undercover fight because he was cast into the party’s leaders.
  11. hrych
    hrych 7 October 2013 09: 00 New
    +6
    As soon as the Crimean War ended, the victors - England and France, as well as the United States that joined them, rained down on China.

    That's how much you can drive the blizzard. Russia did not lose any Crimean war. The winner is judged by the results of the war, and they are as follows: according to a peace treaty, the allies liberate Sevastopol, and Russia liberates Kars, the Black Sea is demilitarized, i.e. neither Turkey nor Russia should have a Black Sea squadron and that’s all. If Turkey even got Kars in the ass, then the Anglo-French only losses, financial losses and a bunch of involuntaries of war, most of the epidemics, so that even years London has been dying. It was already possible for the author to say that because of the losses of the Crimean company, the little girls had to rob the Chinese to supplement the budget, but not otherwise.
    1. Egen
      Egen 7 October 2013 11: 10 New
      0
      Quote: hrych
      Russia didn’t lose any Crimean war

      in general - US Pat. :)
  12. mirag2
    mirag2 7 October 2013 09: 01 New
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    China is trying to prevent the movement of pseudo-intellectual dissidents, although they are there already showed up.
    But better late than never.
    And their "human rights activists" can scrape a lot of shit at themselves, starting from the dictatorship of one party, and ending with Tibet, the Uighurs.
    ps of course the lack of "freedom"!
  13. Odysseus
    Odysseus 7 October 2013 09: 04 New
    +6
    Everything is correctly and well written, here is just one small clarification.
    There is no “Western democracy", there is bourgeois democracy. The communists are not against democracy (the power of the people), they are against bourgeois democracy because they believe that this is not democracy (the power of the people) in principle.
    From the point of view of the Communists, bourgeois democracy is a mechanism that allows maintaining power in the hands of the owners of the means of production and, accordingly, of capital (capitalists).
  14. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 October 2013 09: 06 New
    +6
    There is a good Japanese saying: “The one who looks from the side has eight eyes.” Apparently, China has well learned the lesson of what happened to the USSR, with its subsequent degradation and fall to the level of modern Russia, which all those people look at in horror For many centuries, they did everything so that Russia does not become a colony of the West. Alas, these people, alas, can only bitterly say: “Excuse me, we all have passed ...”, Russia nevertheless became a colony of the West, and what worse falls into the Middle Ages with the government flying in senile clouds and indifferent to the entire population, I don’t envy the person who will take Russia out of this rotten swamp, someone like Mao really needs to be here. Maybe even China will use its chance, and not lower it into a liberal toilet, as they did in the USSR. The fact that the "Western values" are a threat to the existence of the state, the Chinese again can see on the example of Russia, all this is a shame.
  15. shitovmg
    shitovmg 7 October 2013 09: 11 New
    +7
    Somehow we would decide on our values! And then we hang out like r ... in the hole.
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  17. SolomonSS
    SolomonSS 7 October 2013 09: 27 New
    +4
    Well done Chinese! Develop by leaps and bounds, and do not forget about YOUR values! The main thing is that these leaps and bounds do not go towards our borders!
    And it’s time for our oligarchs and the government to determine their values, and that they coincide with the same values ​​that live in every heart of Russian people!
  18. nemec55
    nemec55 7 October 2013 09: 53 New
    +1
    And our mushrooms fagots begin to invite to bars, probably think and it will fortify them.
  19. vostok1982
    vostok1982 7 October 2013 10: 14 New
    +2
    Do not overestimate China. The West is 100 times easier to turn China into 100 disparate, warring states, than to defeat Russia. China does not have its own oil, energy hunger. The bond that holds China together since 1949 is the CCP. But there are more bourgeois in the CCP than there are Communists. And what’s the main thing? The main thing is money. If he is offered a lifelong and even hereditary place of a van in some province of millions for 30-50 people, he will agree.
    1. Egen
      Egen 7 October 2013 11: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: vostok1982
      100 times in the West it’s easier to turn China into 100 disparate, warring states,

      Easier but no better - why? China supplies almost half of Europe with everything - from tires to ships, where is Geyropa without China ...
  20. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 7 October 2013 10: 20 New
    +6
    To study, study and study, even if from China, is what the Russian leadership needs. hi
    1. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick 7 October 2013 10: 43 New
      +3
      Some do not learn anything and do not want to learn. They are waiting for the guts to scatter along the branches ...
  21. intsurfer
    intsurfer 7 October 2013 10: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: gsg955
    China is always only for itself and it is only necessary to rely on its army and navy.

    I’ll add: a little wrong - their interests are most important to them. If you need to be friends with someone for this - they will be friends. They will bow and smile, but they will honor their interests.
  22. mladenec
    mladenec 7 October 2013 11: 48 New
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    Because of what the Opium War was fought, it turns out because of tea !!!!!!!!!!!!! )))))))))))))) God, are they keeping all the idiots ???? I knew that China was to blame for it !!!! )))))))))))))))) poor English women did not sell tea for waste paper (((((
  23. Sour
    Sour 7 October 2013 12: 02 New
    +3
    Quote: Anatole Klim
    At the same time, Chinese socialism has its own specific features:

    There is no socialism there.
    In "socialist" China, the share of the public sector in industry is lower than in capitalist Russia. And the share of foreign capital in the economy is one of the highest in the G46. For example, 50% of all of China's foreign trade is controlled by foreign capital. In China's manufacturing industry, the share of foreign capital has long exceeded 60%, and the total share of private capital exceeds XNUMX%.
    Agriculture of the PRC is no more socialist than in any other country. Everything is controlled by the private sector.
    Social inequality is huge. Along with the poor in China, there are millionaires, and multimillionaires, and billionaires, and absolutely legal.
    Officially, unemployment in the PRC is 4,1%, but these statistics do not take into account the rural population (the PRC authorities also acknowledge this), but only the population of large cities (if anything - in oligarchic Russia, unemployment in large cities is about 1%, and total unemployment is 5-6%).
    And total unemployment in China, according to UN experts, is about 14%, which is higher than the EU average.
    Unemployment in China would be even higher if it were not for mass emigration.
    There is no socialism in China. There were two things left of socialism - the one-party system and the red flag. And nothing more. I don’t understand how you can not notice it.
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 7 October 2013 13: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Sour
      There is no socialism in China. There were two things left of socialism - the one-party system and the red flag. And nothing more. I don’t understand how you can not notice it.

      I definitely do not intend to enter into a discussion with you on this insignificant issue. As Deng Xiaoping said, "it doesn’t matter what color the cat is: the main thing is that it catches mice well", if the Chinese do not care what kind of cat it is: socialist or capitalist, then even more so. However, let me note:
      "The basis of Chinese economic reform are two principles:
      1) All reforms should be carried out in the interests of the absolute majority of the population, which should have an obvious benefit from this.
      2) For the vast majority of the population, the price of reform should be acceptable.
      Please note - the principles are precisely socialist, not capitalist and liberal. "Http://warrax.net/90/China.html
  24. Watson J.
    Watson J. 7 October 2013 13: 19 New
    +1
    Well done, the Chinese leaders of the CCP. One can only envy. By and large, where necessary - show unshakable resistance, wherever possible and beneficial, flexibility. But most importantly, they maintain ideological control over the minds of the Chinese. If they continue in the same vein, it seems that soon the whole world will become for them a raw materials appendage. It's time to learn from other people's examples and draw conclusions. It turns out interesting: today it would be easier to get closer to China on the basis of state communist ideology. And then with the image of pro-Western tolerance we will be among the first to get under the distribution. I do not stay awake. Nuclear club on ointment. But this is not an option. It would be smarter to get closer against the backdrop of a “common enemy." I've never for myself can intelligently answer some questions. Does Na.Rena need numerous parties and uncontrolled religious freedom? Religion should be one - the interests of the state. And the party is also one, bearing the ideology of protecting the state. The interests of the state should be understood as the interests of the majority of the population, naturally, and not a handful of oligarchs.
  25. zvereok
    zvereok 7 October 2013 16: 07 New
    0
    What i heard !!! “The last time the United States defaulted in 1790, when debt payments were deferred to 1801.” http://lenta.ru/news/2013/10/07/catastrophe/

    It may be nonsense, but until today, in every article where crises were described, it has always been said that the US financial system is therefore valued because it never made defaults. In the case of the French - you spun. And here, it turns out - admitted, albeit for a long time.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 7 October 2013 16: 55 New
      0
      And here is the related article:

      http://www.goldenfront.ru/articles/view/kratkaya-istoriya-amerikanskih-kreditnyh
      -defoltov
  26. krot
    krot 7 October 2013 17: 30 New
    0
    Anglo-Saxons and now use similar techniques to get what they want. And in relation to our country. Minerals, forest ..
  27. BBM
    BBM 7 October 2013 17: 31 New
    -1
    But England’s tea needs were such that their total silver reserves would not be sufficient

    to the author, it would not hurt to ring out less. The main supplier of tea for BI was India and received its shaving from its colony virtually free. And the fact that for the British trade was scarce is of course a fact. But such "little things" bring together - a serious article about the level of the tabloid descent.
    1. BBM
      BBM 7 October 2013 17: 38 New
      0
      The Shanghai scenario was the scenario of the capitalist drift of the PRC. Pekingese stick to the left platform.
      Their ideology is neomaoism
      .

      Well, I don’t know what kind of feature such "Neomaoism" is - but in fact the northerners are at all blowing about Chinese or yellow communism. Communism with Chinese characteristics — or, more simply, in fact, about the very present National Socialism. For those who look at today's China without pink glasses, it has long been clear that its economic model more and more resembles the economy of the Third Reich. The close symbiosis of the state and large private (national) capital is enough to look at the number of billionaires in the ranks of the CCP.
      How does this all combine with the ideas of the possessed Mao - an interesting question?
  28. Clueless
    Clueless 7 October 2013 18: 09 New
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    and again in the comments - "given the huge mobilization resource of China"

    and? When you write this, trite think lope need grub to feed him, put on shoes, clothe, arm, again teach to follow orders, etc. And in order to deliver it to the borders, it will generally take months

    stop playing Starcraft for zerg, or imagine hordes of Chinese leming that attack in a steady stream, they are drenched in missiles, guzzled with napalm, blown up on mines, and they all go and go

    moreover, all as one are ready to die for their homeland .. are they not funny? Especially how they are ready to die for their homeland, everyone remembers the Second World War
  29. Sour
    Sour 7 October 2013 21: 07 New
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    Quote: Anatole Klim
    Chinese economic reforms are based on two principles:
    1) All reforms should be carried out in the interests of the absolute majority of the population, which should have an obvious benefit from this.
    2) For the vast majority of the population, the price of reform should be acceptable.
    Please note - the principles are precisely socialist, not capitalist and liberal. "Http://warrax.net/90/China.html

    Then (according to your logic) it turns out that in the USSR there was no socialism.
    What “obvious benefit for the vast majority of the population” did collectivization have? Yes, no. At least for the absolute majority, at least for the relative. Only spawn enemies of the existing system.
    Or the federal-national structure of the USSR — what benefit and to whom did it bring?
    I also don’t want to enter into discussion, I simply affirm that socialism does not mean mass unemployment, mass emigration, legalized social inequality, total capitalism in agriculture, foreign control over many key industries.
    This is not socialism. Turn it around as you please, consider from all sides, but this is not socialism. Marx, Lenin, and Stalin would not call it socialism.
    Although for some, the main thing is precisely the one-party system with the sign "Communist Party." But some of them are not supporters of socialism. They are supporters of something else, although perhaps they themselves are not aware of it.
  30. Sour
    Sour 7 October 2013 21: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: Bad
    Especially how they are ready to die for their homeland, everyone remembers the Second World War

    If the Chinese were good warriors (or at least average), then even in ancient times they would have crushed the whole world for themselves, given their numbers.
    History shows the opposite examples - they were all neighboring nations. Even the few and wild Mongols and Manchus conquered China, and planted their dynasties on the throne.
    For more distant powers, it was enough to give a landing (for thousands of miles) and impose their conditions on a vast country, as in the 19th century.
    In 1979 they tried to "teach a lesson" to Vietnam, but none of this came of it.
    In short, they are fighters of dubious quality. This is not me saying this story is telling.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 7 October 2013 21: 17 New
      0
      I support that for their homeland they didn’t feel sick and were eager to fight the invaders, cut out several times more people during the civil war over the redistribution of power between Mao and Chiang Kai-shek, rather than during the struggle against the Japanese and during the Japanese occupation taken together
  31. BBM
    BBM 7 October 2013 22: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Arabist
    They cut out several times more people during the civil war over the redistribution of power between Mao and Chiang Kai-shek,

    this is nonsense. The civilian people died an order of magnitude less.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 7 October 2013 22: 52 New
      0
      Oh really? How do you reinforce your version?