Americans fool both our and their brother

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Americans fool both our and their brotherAgain and again I reflect on the events in Syria, I ask myself questions. What kind? Here they are.

When applying chemical weapons the carrier has a shell, a bomb, a rocket, a mine — only the hull is opened. The explosion of the carrier is not aimed at creating fragments and not scattering them over a long distance, but at opening the container with toxic substances (OM). That is, the carriers — a projectile, a bomb, a rocket, a mine — have minimal damage to the hull; they should lie almost perfectly on the ground. If “fragments with the Cyrillic alphabet” were found, then it was a non-standard delivery of weapons of ammunition.

And on Kerry's statement: “... this opposition secretly penetrated into the territory that it did not control, launched rockets, which it does not have in its arsenal, with poison sarin, which it does not have either, in order to kill its own supporters. And then, just as imperceptibly, the opposition dismantles the installations, plunges them and takes them out of the center of Damascus, controlled by Asad ... ”- you can answer this way: if there is a bombardment of a known area with rockets from a known place, then all that remains is to pour sarin at the place of shelling. fragments of "Cyrillic" also smear in sarin - that's all. Not difficult.

But it is very difficult to prove who has used agents and how. It is only with Mr. Kerry that everything works out very quickly and convincingly.

So what is the US meaning of the bombing of Syria (well, except for the pain in the heart for the dying people under the yoke of inhuman Assad)?

I think that the purpose of the bombing with humanity is not connected in any way. Rather, they are associated with the economy. This was the case with Iraq and Libya.

Both Saddam and Gaddafi wanted to receive all payments for oil not in dollars, which are not secured by anything other than the same dollars, but in their own currency and in gold. That is, they wanted to get away from the order that was imposed on the whole world by the United States during the time of Roosevelt. Result? Both in the coffin, the countries looted, there is a civil war, the right people are pumping oil out of the countries. What prevents Syria from Assad? It prevents the laying of a gas pipe from Qatar through Saudi Arabia, Turkey and further to Europe - to France and Germany. The prices for Russian gas are falling - Russia is beginning to engage in survival, it has nothing to do with it. And she returns to the mill of petrodollar relations, and then she, together with China, began to disintegrate - settlements begin to lead in rubles and yuan. But what about the dollar? Is it printing in vain?

REALIZATION "TOMAHAVKOV"

Seventeen trillion - the debt of the United States, and the gold reserves - only 130 billion. Debt more stock in 130 times. For the USA, the mutual settlements in the world since Roosevelt times are the conditions for survival. But Russia does not want to weaken - otherwise it will sit down on ration cards, we have the lion’s share of food - imported. Let's sit down with a collapse in gas prices very low and for a long time. Perestroika-2 will begin - again the shelves in the shops are empty and have a very evil population.

Russian elite fade abroad? She is already there waiting with open arms. The “Gaddafi effect” showed: everything will be taken away in a flash. Result? The Russian elite suddenly fell in love with Russia anew - liquidated accounts of officials abroad and so on.

Suddenly, the Russian army began to revive, the exercises for the exercises - still not just.

So the goal, as I see it, is not Syria at all - Russia and China. Russia will not calm down, and China is the main holder of US debt. What do they do to the lender if he is bored with the return of the debt? They kill him. It remains only to think of how. But we must begin, I believe, with knocking out chairs from under the priests. What kind of chair does China have in the event of a US sneak on it? Russia is his only chair.

That is, the norms of international law already mean nothing? It looks like it.

Why is Syria suddenly quarreled with all the Arabs? Something very fast. The Arab Spring also came suddenly. For some reason she did not touch Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and other US friends.

And why are the militants preparing in other territories by instructors from the United States, Great Britain, and then sent to Syria? To stop bloodshed or for profuse bloodletting? And after that comes true democracy?

Does it come only after applying Tomahawks on 1,5 million each, which are paid by Qatar and Saudi Arabia? Or is it that we have such a deft US arms sales department? The United States fires, and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are paying for the shelling.

The United States does not transfer its “Tomahawks” to anyone, they shoot themselves, and the money is on hand. This is what I call the successful implementation of 200 "Tomahawks", for which the term is still out or will be released. Price - 300 million. This is a very good deal, in my opinion.

The United States is arranging democracy after democracy all over the world. Probably the most democratic among us is Afghanistan? True, drug trafficking with the advent of the United States increased by an order of magnitude, and Kyrgyzstan is already heavily involved. The smooth flow of drugs to Russia and Europe is a merit of the USA or what? Iraq, after they hanged Saddam, became more democratic many times over? After the establishment of democracy in Libya, the militants went to arrange it in Mali - is this the main result? And where, by the way, are billions of Gaddafi? Arrested or went to pay for the bombing aviation USA? And where are the billions of Saddam? And who looted the museums of Iraq? Isn't the US army? And who blew up Egypt? Tired of all Mubarak with his corruption? And where are his millions in western banks? And who installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? Now the Egyptian army cannot stand the United States. What is the reason, long and old?

And why the United States did not support democracy in Turkey? What prevented? Not enough bullying of their own people? Didn't Obama want to use the “red line” to use tear gas? After all, he acts as suffocating with an excess. Interestingly, is it unknown to chemical experts in the West?

One thing pleases me very much - the chemical experts that Kerry and the company refer to are rapidly getting smarter and no longer carry any nonsense easily and naturally: “we know where it flew from, how it flew, where it flew, here are fragments with the Cyrillic alphabet”. Everything is back to the right chemical track.

And somehow imperceptibly, French chemical experts and French intelligence have disappeared from the matter somewhere.

Guys, ay, where are you? Well, tell us how chemical weapons carriers are organized around the world. And tell us about the stocks of AE in the countries of the Middle East. You are intelligence! About Turkey, tell us how there is a production of sarin-type agents. Saudi Arabia do not forget.

In fact, the legends would have to come up with intelligence intelligence plausible. Would consult with experts. You don't have to invent everything yourself, and then force chemists to justify this nonsense.

CONVULSIA - FOR WIDE PUBLIC

Now let's talk about the dead (affected) 21-th number. At first, it was about their number in 300 people. Then the numbers rose to 1400. Still dead or stricken? These are two big differences. In the West, insist - the dead. So, 1400, in one place, at the same time 21.

I can't believe this number. Why? Because I know how much 1400 is. In a column of four - 350 rows. We went out for a drill, and we had 1400 - the beginning was on one hill, and the end - on the other. This is a lot of people. Now imagine that this is a loss. Simultaneous. In a hot climate in the territory contaminated with sarin - not to be removed within 24 hours. After all, the territory is infected there, and Asad beats all the time - this is a week or two troupes to carry. During this time, the stench in the city and the epidemic will begin. So the 1400 figure at the same time killed in a limited area is hard to believe. More precisely - I can not believe at all.

What I saw on TV as evidence proves nothing. So the number of 1400 dead was or was not?

I report to everyone once again why I have doubts about it. If we take out at least one troupe per minute from the affected area, then it is almost 24 hours, and under fire, in satellites and gas masks, simultaneously dismantling the debris, it is impossible to cope in 24 hours. Two or three days, a week or two - utter utter stink. People will get hurt no longer by sarin, but by decaying corpses. Therefore, I really want to clarify the figure - 1400 dead from sarin.

I was told here that the Israeli intelligence, AMAN, which is believed to never lie, was involved in finding the “trail of Assad”. This is just fine. A miracle is not lying. Intelligence in general, in my opinion, should be silent, and if it gave out some information to the people, then this information is intelligence.

But we will continue. Next - also a figure. 350 liters of sarin. Sarin - isopropyl ester of methylphosphonic acid fluoride - in essence (degassed with 18% sodium hydroxide). The acid cannot be contained in plastic cans for a long time - it leaks, eats away and so on.

350 liters is a lot. This is not one rocket. I would say that it is a VAP - a pourer of aviation equipment. Were any legendary intelligence AMAN fixed? No, the conversation was about 122-mm projectiles with Cyrillic. Fine. Characteristics of the projectile? Do not know? I'll tell you: 122-mm 2-03217 chemical projectile with expelling bottom. Projectile weight - 22,827 kg. Weight of OB type - 1,7 kg. We divide 350 liters (they are kilograms, the proportion of sarin - 1,0943) and we get 205 shells. 205 shells must be released almost simultaneously, so that 350 liters of sarin hit the ground. Perhaps, the never-moving intelligence of AMAN recorded an almost simultaneous launch of 205 122-mm chemical shells?
Yes? And the video has this massive shelling, this Syrian Kursk arc?

But back to the signs of fatal defeat from sarin.

All absolutely expert chemists will also be needed here, from AMAN’s intelligence as well. Sarin dies within a minute during inhalation of sarin vapors (and they are 4 times heavier than air and easily dispersed by the wind, and only 1 – 2 hours are deadly for lesions) with 0,075 g / cubic meter concentration.

At the last stage there are convulsions and fur-like foam from the nose and mouth of a pale yellow color. Convulsions and foam remain on the corpse. In convulsions, the body stiffens (rigor mortis), and the traces of fallen foam do not disappear from the face - it is easy to detect. What was demonstrated - no corpses, frozen in convulsions and no foam. Have any other videos? Only for specialists? And the fact that we vtyuhivat, this is for the inhabitants? Are there artists?

Convulsions are not twitching (muscle twitching is not the deadly phase of convulsions). Convulsions are slow, very strong, not controlled by the brain, a very unnatural bending of the whole body and limbs. A living creature (all living creatures perish from sarin equally, whether it is a man, a cat or a rabbit, I saw it - people in secret, trophy films, animals live in a laboratory), dying from sarin, inspires horror.

I repeat, convulsions are a very slow bending of the whole body, so it freezes, as if stretching somewhere and cannot reach.

Nerve toxic agents - sarin, soman and others are combined into one family not by chemical formula - it is different, but by how the ability to transmit nerve impulses to muscles is blocked. The picture of defeat is not drastically different - there must be a foam with convulsions, and a point, or then we must assume that 40 years ago I had something with a sight and I saw something wrong.

ARITHMETIC OPENS A DECEPTION

Or else we can assume that the carriers of the TV and the TV itself are made in a handicraft way and this is not sarin ... Well, then it’s definitely to the opposition - Assad has nothing to do with it.

For a second, let's go back to the “1400 dead from sarin” figure. For example, we believe that we died from sarin - 1400, right away. At the same time. Who found that from sarin? Doctors? What are doctors? Pathologists? Establish the causes of death, in fact, doctors, pathologists. And it takes time. Yes, and doctors need a lot of it, because it is necessary to evaluate the 1400 corpses. Again at the same time. So how much do pathologists need? Figure please And how much time they spent on the examination of 1400 corpses - also, please, a figure. Do you have such numbers? Not.

After all, information about the deceased appeared swiftly - several times a day. And always - no doubt about their authenticity. And the cries of "women, children" - this is plenty. So are the numbers or not? Have the data expertise?

Or do we believe forever honest intelligence AMAN? Or is it data from other intelligence?

Whose data is this? UN experts? How many of them worked at the same time only in the field of pathology?

And about chemical shells and about 350 liters of sarin. I would like to talk a little about the tactics of the use of chemical weapons. Perhaps chemists will correct me.

Chemical weapons applied by area. It is impossible in one place, even if it is a suburb of Damascus, to effectively launch 205 shells simultaneously. One projectile must cover at least 80 square. meters to create combat concentration. 205 shells - is 16 400 sq. meters Such a defeat area of ​​Damascus?

Do experts confirm it? Notice, and I insist on it - a blow to this area was supposed to be delivered SIMULTANEOUSLY with 205 shells! It is very important. Late with simultaneity, do not create a combat concentration, from which 1400 people will die within a minute.

By the way, again about them - about 1400 dead. Or nevertheless about the injured, and the injured are not the dead, they were damaged and ... survived? The dead are separate.

But, we will believe in the 1400 dead (of course, women, of course, children).

Divide 16 400 sq. meters on 1400 dead - this is on the 11,7 meter on the deceased. In the Damascus area, under shelling, was there such a population density? Is there an expert opinion on this? Well? Again, no.

One person per 11,7 apt. Meter - I can not calm down. And how much will it be on 1 sq. km? On the calculator divide 1 million square meters. m on 11,7 - 85 470 people. A good population density for the area where intensive military operations are being conducted ... And no one escaped? No refugees? Simply, we are in a world of interesting numbers that touches us.

In short, questions, questions, questions - questions alone. And the answers need time. But to strike at Syria does not need time. In principle, everything is prepared.
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  1. +51
    5 October 2013 15: 43
    Good article, "chewed" to a complete understanding good
    It’s not even worth mentioning the Cyrillic alphabet, if there was a provocation, then it’s clear that it will not be Latin ...
    For those who passed this news:
    According to British historian Giles Milton, in 1919, Winston Churchill authorized the use of new British chemical weapons against parts of the Red Armythat, according to the politician, was supposed to help whites during the Civil War, British media reported.

    “Churchill authorized the use of chemical weapons against the Bolsheviks,” Milton quoted the Daily Telegraph.

    According to the historian, many decades before the recent chemical attacks in Syria Winston Churchill has developed a chemical attack plan for the Russian north.

    Milton explained that Winston Churchill, who during the First World War held the position of minister of war, thereby wanted to help the whites in their struggle with the Bolsheviks.

    «Under great secrecy, the British developed a chemical weapon called the M Device, which was a projectile with a gas tank at the end. It was developed at military laboratories in Porton, Wiltshire.", Said the researcher.

    The senior British military of the time considered the M Device "the most destructive chemical weapon ever invented."

    Milton said that 50 thousand devices were loaded on airplanes, and then dropped to the position of the Bolshevik Red Army and to the villagesthat were controlled by the Bolsheviks.
    1. Airman
      +4
      5 October 2013 16: 08
      In urban conditions, OM concentration is slightly higher than in open areas, and weather conditions must also be taken into account. Specialists of the Russian Chemical Safety Laboratory can explain better.
      1. +43
        5 October 2013 16: 46
        This is not important.
        In urban settings, in SEPARATE PLACES large concentrations of gas contamination and duration of fumes can be achieved ....
        But that would entail +/- another 10 deaths ....
        So against mathematics and common sense you will not trample ....
        Just the "elite" and the majority of the population are illiterate ...

        Here they are getting into these versions ....
        But in general, the logic is strange .... Evil Assad is bombing his people- ... for this we will bomb THEM ALL of such a mother, Tomahawks ....
        Should this stop the bombing ????
        No..
        We will still bomb until DermoKratiya comes (the power of the police and the underestimated))
        like everywhere)))))
    2. +9
      5 October 2013 17: 44
      Quote: seasoned
      Milton said that 50 thousand devices were loaded onto planes, and then dropped into the positions of the Bolshevik Red Army and the villages, which were controlled by the Bolsheviks.


      In short, this is where the cut came from. And that’s all, the worst corruption in Russia, la la. Gentlemen themselves, let their faces, shake off the fluff.
      1. +10
        5 October 2013 20: 11
        Quote: skeptic
        Gentlemen themselves, let their faces, shake off the fluff.

        corruption in the US is part of the culture, So Barack Husseinovich Obama received donations to his 2008 election campaign from Mexican telecommunications magnate Carlos Slim,
        Alaska 84-year-old Senator Ted Stevens was found guilty of hiding the fact that he received $ 250 worth of gifts from an oil company
        Homophobic New York senator Carl Kruger is accused of using funds received in the form of bribes to pay a mortgage for a mansion ...
        state senator Shirley Huntley appropriated $ 88.000 from a charity fund she controlled.
        Last September, the entire city bosses of the small working-class town of Belle in California, with a population of 38.000, sat on the dock. They pocketed five and a half million in the form of illegal payroll, allowances, benefits and loans.
        On April 2, 2013, the FBI arrested New York State Senator Malcolm Smith for attempting to acquire the position of New York Mayor. The former Republican Party branch chairman was found guilty of fraud and money laundering. The court sentenced him to 18 months in prison for stealing $ 125 from a party fund.
        42% of Americans believe the US judicial system is corrupt
      2. +5
        6 October 2013 06: 38
        Quote: skeptic
        Quote: seasoned
        Milton said that 50 thousand devices were loaded onto planes, and then dropped into the positions of the Bolshevik Red Army and the villages, which were controlled by the Bolsheviks.

        In short, this is where the cut came from. And that’s all, the worst corruption in Russia, la la. Gentlemen themselves, let their faces, shake off the fluff.

        You still forgot about ethnic cleansing in 18-19. When the Finns slaughtered Russian villages, despite the fact that they were women and children. The cultural west forgot all this.
    3. +19
      5 October 2013 20: 30
      I can understand a lot, but here are some of the reasons that guided the two members of the forum, who put the cons article for me an inexplicable mystery request However, I’m sure that place the administration of the site instead of the article, the multiplication table, then there are sure to be unique ones, which will be marked by minuses there laughing
      1. +4
        5 October 2013 20: 37
        Quote: seasoned
        I can understand a lot, but here are some of the reasons that guided the two members of the forum, who put the cons article for me an inexplicable mystery


        And what about the Syrians on the site only allies?
        1. +8
          5 October 2013 21: 16
          And here are allies or enemies? Everyone is a supporter of common sense. And even if you hate Syria and its people, this does not give the right to deny the reality.
          1. +2
            6 October 2013 18: 28
            Quote: Vyacheslav
            Everyone is a supporter of common sense.


            Oh how. Every. At a minimum, you need to ask the residents of Hiroshima, the victims of Chiaktilo, those who are named after the Fuhrer ...
        2. +1
          5 October 2013 21: 23
          Quote: Vadivak
          Quote: seasoned
          I can understand a lot, but here are some of the reasons that guided the two members of the forum, who put the cons article for me an inexplicable mystery


          And what about the Syrians on the site only allies?


          NOT necessarily, of course. It would be interesting to see the argument. Aw, minusers!
          1. +1
            5 October 2013 22: 12
            Quote: mejik
            Aw, minusers!


            Sorry, you forgot to put two dots above the letter "e" and it would have been "minus". So it would be more accurate. hi
            1. 0
              9 October 2013 06: 51
              did not put a point, tk the word minusers is a derivative of the words minus and sirun
      2. Jogan-xnumx
        +1
        5 October 2013 21: 47
        I can understand a lot, but here are some arguments guided by two members of the forum, who put the cons article

        Same. Most of all I was interested in this particular question. what Rupees per hundred - "honest" intelligence service AMAN has "its own" opinion on this matter ... lol
    4. Rusich51
      +4
      6 October 2013 10: 27
      I was told here that the Israeli intelligence, AMAN, which is believed to never lie, was involved in finding the “trail of Assad”. This is just fine. A miracle is not lying. Intelligence in general, in my opinion, should be silent, and if it gave out some information to the people, then this information is intelligence.

      Israeli intelligence in 90 had a hand in Russia. Snipers from Israel killed representatives of both the opposition and the Yeltsin.
      1. +4
        6 October 2013 19: 56
        Quote: Rusich51
        Israeli intelligence in 90 had a hand in Russia. Snipers from Israel killed representatives of both the opposition and the Yeltsin.

        - by the way, it was because of what "put a hand" to the Israeli intelligence. Who now owns 80% of all its material resources and economic assets? Yes, those who walk in white in the deserts. Really need to be punished for such a "laying on of hands" in the 90s, our time will come, so they are in white and will be hung on poles.
  2. +25
    5 October 2013 15: 51
    It's nice to read the opinion of a specialist. Perhaps not "combed", but logical and interesting.
    1. +16
      5 October 2013 15: 58
      From today's news:
      The chemical attack near Damascus on August 21 was organized by a special group sent by Saudi Arabia from Jordan, Russian diplomatic sources said Friday.

      It is reported by Interfax. Meanwhile, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has completely denied suspicions that the government army used chemical weapons in the SAR, ITAR-TASS reports.

      “There were no circumstances and no desire to give permission for its use”
      “I can directly say that we didn’t even need to use these weapons. There were no circumstances and no desire to give permission for its use, ”Assad said.
      "Besides, in Syria, as in other countries, chemical weapons are not at the disposal of conventional military units. It is controlled by special units"He added.

      The Syrian President indicated that preparing a poison attack "is technically difficult and time-consuming." Without the direct order of the General Staff, Assad said such an attack is “completely impossible.”».
    2. timer
      0
      6 October 2013 23: 52
      You do not need to be an expert to understand a number of points in the actions of "democratizers" from across the ocean - in order to establish democracy wherever they think it is necessary to establish democracy, a fake is invented (such as the presence of a nuclear bomb, bullying the people, etc.) - then manual media are connected with mongrel talkers from the opposition and that's all. Whoever has an egg instead of a head swallows this false information and the soil is ready for seizure. So it was in Iraq, Libya, Syria. What is the story with the chemist. a set-up in Syria will not understand this only. This weapon was used by bandits who are fighting against the legitimate leader of Assad. The goal is the external intervention of the "allies" (damn them). !!
  3. +6
    5 October 2013 15: 52
    it’s interesting, but there are no people who don’t know about the lies of Western and their friends (Arabs, Jews) politicians and the media. well, intelligence is the same politician. but for article + hi
  4. HAM
    +18
    5 October 2013 15: 57
    I fully support, mathematics and science are accurate, for liars it is very inconvenient.
  5. +16
    5 October 2013 16: 05
    Interesting article. To the author plus. I also do not believe in the death of 1400 people from sarin. All this was a production justifying the strike against Syria. It’s just that American politicians have already lied, they are breeding like dogs, and, in principle, they have the same attitude. stop
  6. +6
    5 October 2013 16: 08
    One specialist noted that the defeat was received in a limited area ... in spite of the wind, that is, there was simply no infected trace and, as a result, it was struck in the wind ... and it doesn’t, except when used indoors, which excludes shelling, as a carrier of OB.
    NURSs, which are attributed to the delivery of OM, and besides the 50-60s of the last century, are not predictable at all ... they were used not in the field where they would create a continuous field of destruction, but in the city ... i.e. several local points with traces ... but this is not.
  7. +26
    5 October 2013 16: 13
    The most important thing is that the Cyrillic alphabet is not found on the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs, otherwise the dinosaurs will be sued for us.
  8. +9
    5 October 2013 16: 27
    I wouldn’t intervene in the Russian Federation, and it might have rolled.
    1. +6
      6 October 2013 00: 05
      If it weren’t for the Russian Federation, they wouldn’t have begun to look for an excuse. They would have just started bombing!
  9. stroporez
    +4
    5 October 2013 16: 47
    once upon a time, one person, using numbers, explained to me the essence of the yin-yang symbol ......... truly -------- mathematics is the greatest invention of humans ........
  10. +3
    5 October 2013 16: 53
    Bravo! All to the point
  11. IGS
    +22
    5 October 2013 16: 56
    A good, well-thought-out article by a person who does not understand how to lie like that, citing iron facts. But enough to prove and torment nerves, forces, time. Do not waste Yourself on useless arguments, useless for those to whom they are addressed in the first place, they already know this, and they would not care. We need to understand and realize that before us is the ENEMY, the enemy is not Syria, not Libya, but OUR ENEMY. If you know that you have a well-known piz..ol, you will be tormented, give facts, arguments and refute each of his piz..stv? Do not toss beads before ...
    1. +3
      6 October 2013 01: 09
      The enemy since the time of Tartaria ....
      The enemy until our complete annihilation, which everyone was waiting for the last time from Hitler.
      1. Rusich51
        +4
        6 October 2013 10: 36
        Quote: BAORope
        The enemy since the time of Tartaria ....
        The enemy until our complete annihilation, which everyone was waiting for the last time from Hitler.



        So Hitler is the product of our enemy. He was nurtured and cherished by him and sent to Russia.
  12. +6
    5 October 2013 17: 08
    The analyst really gives the facts.
    And the facts are stubborn things with which you can not argue.
  13. +6
    5 October 2013 17: 10
    Yes, 1400 dead are certainly a number !! But I think that there should still be a small number of affected ??? Then the population density per 1 sq. Km. in the war zone should be like in a megalopolis!?
  14. +7
    5 October 2013 17: 15
    REMEMBER WHAT WAS EARLIER:
    The militants tried to transport the poisonous gas "Zarin" to Syria
    30.05.2013, 21: 05
    Turkish law enforcement agencies detained 12 people who were engaged in the transportation of poison gas to Syria, ITAR-TASS reported.

    According to reports, the detainees are members of the Jabhat al-Nusra rebel group close to al-Qaeda. The criminals were detained in the city of Adana in southern Turkey, containers were seized from them, which contained two kilograms of poison gas "Zarin", created before the Second World War in Germany. Chemical weapons were intended for militants fighting the Syrian armed forces. As a result of the interrogation, five people were released, the rest will be charged.

    Recall that in March, the Syrian authorities reported that the armed opposition used chemical weapons in the province of Aleppo, 25 people became victims of the attack, 110 was also seriously injured. Opposition denies accusations.

    AND WHAT'S FURTHER?
  15. +28
    5 October 2013 17: 19
    Good day to all!

    The author of the article examined everything in detail and submitted the conclusions, according to which all these “chemical attacks of the Assad government’s troops” before the arrival of UN chemical experts, anyway, a rude fake concocted by Western intelligence agencies (USA, England, France, Israel, Turkey and others "Bombers of democracy").

    I personally don’t remember the details of chemical protection very much already, we visited the military department at the medical institute somewhere in 1982-1984, although I still remember running at the military training center at the military training ground in Khmelnitsky.
    The pharmacological description of the action of neuro-paralytic poisons in the author is detailed, in particular the important details about paralytic seizures and foam on the lips, which the extras recorded in the “SAR accusation frames” (either euthanized or killed?) Are completely absent !!!

    An important detail is that the conclusions, or rather the “Death Report”, are issued only by the doctor of the Patalogy anatomist, not the Therapist, not the Anesthetist, they write only “Posthumous Epicrisis”.
    The “PE” itself is a description of the process, how the patient died and what attempts to resuscitate him were made after signs of “Clinical death” appeared (when it is still possible up to 3-5 minutes after cardiac arrest and respiration / asysitol and apnea, at room temperature + 18C , hedgehog to revive the patient and "return him to earth from the path to another world") and only then ascertaining "Biological death", that is, irreversible changes in the body, when the resuscitation measures are stopped, the devices are turned off, period.

    As the author of the article correctly noted, the autopsy of 1.400 dead bodies (adults and children) is timed, the presence of pathologists, the squares themselves (i.e., the autopsy rooms, where there are 1-2 and rarely only in large clinics (400- 600 beds) 3-4 operating tables each, or 2-3 autopsy rooms with 1-2 operating tables.

    The autopsy process itself lasts from 30 minutes in small children up to 45-60 minutes, where the doctor performs an autopsy, takes samples of “tissues” for examination (under a microscope / making sections and dyeing them, for chemical, toxicological). I do not write about the autopsy of bodies or their debris during forensic, ballistic and toxicological examinations (this case), where the autopsy itself can last from 60 to 120 minutes.

    Thus, the documentation (gender, age, if there is a name, clothes), the autopsy and sampling for research at 1.400 x 60min = 1.400 hours!?

    For a shift in a clinic, as a rule, 2-3 autopsies are performed, with an emergency it is possible up to 4-6, but no one can perform 10-18 autopsies in a day !!!

    Even with an experienced doctor, a scalpel and scissors will fall out of your hands with a 4-5 corpse !!!
    With 4-5 openings per day, you need 280-350 days / with 1 doctor (from the number of 1.400 examinations), which, for example, with the number of 8-10 doctors, lasts 28-44 days !!!
    And the opposition showed the conclusions about the chemical attack and hundreds of corpses to the whole world already on the second or third day, well, just super-specialists on lies and fakes!

    So, taking into account that the conditions in Syria are military, it turns out that “their trusted journalists” were shown several rooms, rooms where several dozens of bodies lay (they could have been euthanized), wrapped in white sheets and several dozens of bodies on tables and gurneys, which were supposedly reanimated or simply stated death from chemical weapons.

    It goes without saying that there are no refrigerated boxes with tidy bodies with tags, magazines with records of body receipts, autopsy, time for taking samples for research and receiving answers from a toxicology laboratory, no opposition will show anyone anywhere in Syria, since they don’t have any, and those who are busy they smashed hospitals everywhere ...

    But on the other hand, the number of 1.400 victims of a bloody tyrant is surfing the net, and all sorts of Kerry there with their experts on Syria (a certain lady of 26 years old) are calling for the destruction of the dictator Assad.
    Indeed, Goebbels may be strangled with envy by looking at the current specialists in psycho-manipulative warfare.
    1. Dovmont
      +2
      5 October 2013 20: 28
      I will allow myself to disagree with you! Autopsy of 4-6 corpses per day is quite a feasible, though time-consuming, and no less time is also spent on the preparation of the protocols of the forensic medical examination.
      1. 0
        5 October 2013 21: 41
        wassat the office writes !!
      2. +6
        5 October 2013 21: 43
        Good evening to you!

        I agree with your statement, but it will not work out more than 4-6 per day to conduct and perform autopsies and submit samples for research (histology, toxicology).

        Unless such a "so-called pathologist" will instead of tools (tweezers, scalpel, section knife, scissors, file, etc.), use an electric saw, jigsaw and with 3-4 assistants ...

        But these will no longer be autopsies, but more similar horrors from the workshop in the "meat-packing plant".
    2. wax
      +5
      5 October 2013 22: 09
      There is one point. To make sure that all the meat in a multi-ton truck is rotten, you do not need to check all the carcasses, just take a dozen at random, and you can upload the contents of the truck to the burial ground. According to this point, the fact is that 1) no autopsy was performed by specialists, 2) the burial was not shown.
  16. pahom54
    +6
    5 October 2013 17: 30
    I quote ...; "... Seventeen trillion is the US debt, and the gold reserve is only 130 billion. The debt is 130 times more than the reserve. For the United States, mutual settlements in the world are the conditions for survival. And Russia does not want to weaken - otherwise it will sit on ration cards, we have the lion's share of food imported. We will sit down when gas prices collapse very low and for a long time. Perestroika-2 will begin - again the shelves in the shops are empty and the population is very angry ...
    ... Suddenly, the Russian army began to revive, exercises after exercises - all the same, it’s not just like that.
    ... So the goal, as I see it, is not Syria at all - Russia and China. Russia still won't calm down, and China is the main holder of US debt. What do you do with a creditor if he gets bored with debt repayment? They kill him. It remains only to figure out how. But I suppose we need to start by knocking the chairs out from under the priests. What kind of stool does China have if the United States attacks it? Russia is his only chair .... "...
    I’d like to fantasize: what if Russia and China are able to come to an agreement, they will collect all green candy wrappers in their countries and present them to the USA ??? Then killing a creditor will be a difficult task, it will be like a suicide attempt. Here, for the debts to take away from the Americans everything that is possible ... But this is a fantasy.
    It is striking that sitting in such a debt hole, the United States continues (or tries) to rule the world ...
    I think when our armed forces rise by 2020, maybe it will be possible to bring the Americans to throw. No wonder that there is talk of creating a single Asian currency, the basis of which can be taken the Chinese yuan (note, the Japanese yen has never sounded).
    Another question, the strengthening of our "friend" China is also unprofitable for us, but at a certain stage, using the Jesuit policy of Lenin's grandfather, at the present stage it would be possible to unite against the US expansion.
    I understand that this looks like nonsense, but still ... There is something in this ...
  17. +8
    5 October 2013 17: 34
    In open areas, the time of day is also important. Usually this is the early morning when the so-called atmospheric inversion: the surface of the earth is cooled and as if pressed by warm air. I think everyone saw the morning fog or smoke creeping on the ground. At other times of the day, especially in such a hot climate, all gas will quickly rise upward in ascending currents, in which birds of prey soar, and, due to dilution with air, the toxic dose will decrease to values ​​that are less damaging. Of great importance is the strength of the wind and, of course, its direction, which is impossible to predict at all, see our weather forecasts.

    In a building environment, it is generally impossible to predict the behavior of gas, in basements, at crossroads. Only a crazy chemist would dare to do this. Type in the search engine "Attack of the Dead, Osovets", there a sea of ​​chlorine was poured onto the fortress, in the absence of effective means of defense, the defenders had enough strength to counterattack.
    1. +9
      5 October 2013 23: 02
      Quote: mak210
      Under building conditions, it’s impossible to predict gas behavior at all,


      One more point. Probably serious. Present the corpses of cats, dogs, birds where sarin is used. There must be a huge number of them. And given the high metabolism of animals and especially birds, there should be mountains of animal corpses. Especially on a hot day, when there are intense streams of rising air in the city. Sarin is not chlorine, it will not climb into basements, especially in the heat. However, the "chronicle" did not notice anything on the footage.
  18. +14
    5 October 2013 18: 11
    I am not a specialist in BOV. but I can only say one thing
    the one who ordered this to be done is the enemy of all mankind. Such people must be drowned in an acid vat. They do not deserve another
  19. +2
    5 October 2013 18: 18
    And what questions? There are no questions, the author laid out everything on the shelves. We just have to continue to receive portions of fresh noodles from the Western media.

    PS I'm extremely sorry, but sorry, the pronoun "them" is not inflected. Comrade author, the title of the article would be changed, otherwise it hurts your eyes :)
    1. +3
      5 October 2013 18: 35
      Quote: DerSamowar
      I am extremely sorry, but sorry, the pronoun "them" is not inflected. Comrade author, the title of the article would be changed, otherwise it hurts your eyes :)

      "Theirs" is a separate word, look in the dictionaries and in my opinion it is in the title of the article to the place IMHO hi
      1. +2
        5 October 2013 18: 49
        Perhaps it is in the dictionaries, but the grammar is conservative.
        But what is more appropriate - you correctly noticed that;)
  20. +4
    5 October 2013 18: 33
    It is known who did. Amerov henchmen by Amer’s order.
  21. AVV
    +6
    5 October 2013 18: 37
    Where there is a big lie, there is a lot of money spinning !!! What else can I say ???
    1. 0
      5 October 2013 20: 54
      I agree, there are no words, only thoughts.
  22. +6
    5 October 2013 18: 38
    Thanks to the author for the article. This "chemical attack" is part of the carnivorous policy of the Anglo-Saxons and their henchmen, the essence of which has not changed for several centuries: create a cause and devour. This is all very primitive and works very well. Half of the world sits beneath them, tail between their legs. But this time, their show division didn’t work convincingly. Either they became impudent, they did not bother themselves with the quality of the performance or his rehearsal. At this stage, it is satisfying that the authority of Russia is already enough to settle such provocations. Hopefully for the best.
  23. kripto
    +2
    5 October 2013 19: 03
    Mdya ... The world seems to be really not the same. Some 10 years ago, such a delusional staging would probably have gone with a bang, but times are changing and thank God.
  24. +7
    5 October 2013 19: 20
    article AWESOME! I liked it, I haven’t read anything like it for a long time, I especially liked the author’s style!
  25. +3
    5 October 2013 19: 21
    from Don
    Very reasoned! Author-hammer !!!
  26. +11
    5 October 2013 19: 21
    What does this excellent analysis tell me first? But about what. Look - giant amounts are attracted. The list of interested leading world powers. It's about the coolest things, and?
    And all this is done clearly through the ahedron. How so?!
    I see the only reason - the pros refused. Do you understand? These all elites, these big bosses did not succeed in attracting a single not only specialist, but at least an everyday intelligent person! That is, the world elite simply failed to justify their actions, their orders in the eyes of true professionals. And this is not the first case! Previously, it was possible to shove into terrifying world evil - a terrible USSR, to counter which ... and now everything is out, steam has come out.
    There's another possibility ... I can't even choose which one is nastier. It is likely that in the intelligence communities of the United States, Israel, the Saudis simply did not find a single sane person in the appropriate position. "Why a demonstration? P ... sir!"
    1. +3
      5 October 2013 23: 05
      Quote: Mikhail3
      I see the only reason - the pros refused.


      Pros do not care, would have subscribed. Only one question - how many of them would survive to pay?
      1. +2
        6 October 2013 10: 55
        Intelligence operations are such a thing that according to your logic, upon completion of any of them, the performer must be killed. No, they are not killed, this is impossible - you will instantly be left without specialists, their training is not insanely expensive, so also the process is piecemeal. You cannot pick up a lad in the office, squeak in his ear "Luke, I am your athec" and make a super out of him. Luke will burst ...
        1. 0
          6 October 2013 17: 33
          Quote: Mikhail3
          instantly you will be left without specialists, their preparation is insanely expensive, so is the piece process.


          In America, a huge number of private security companies such as Blackwater. From there, row the pros as much as you want - they are not sorry, and the guys are prepared there. And most importantly - draws. All on a well-deserved vacation request .
      2. 0
        7 October 2013 00: 00
        Apparently the pros are well aware of this. Therefore, they did not want to ... die in the name of American democracy (the Jewish oligarchy).
  27. EGORKA
    +1
    5 October 2013 19: 26
    The US debt will not be paid for any) But there are options, it is possible to somehow bring down this pyramid, but then the world crisis will begin, as I understand it, why not forgive the states for debt?) And after that let them start paying ...
  28. +3
    5 October 2013 19: 32
    The author is a definite plus.
  29. +9
    5 October 2013 19: 36
    It is not the first time that Washington has acted on such a scenario. 10 years ago, the Bush administration confidently presented false evidence that led to the invasion of Iraq. This led to a civil war that claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. The Americans referred to fictional intelligence about Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons, which in fact did not exist. Before the invasion of Iraq, the American media became a tool for shaping public opinion in support of the military campaign. ("Orthodox Warrior" website


    Powell's speech at the UN: the start of the countdown to the war against Iraq
    US Secretary of State (Foreign Secretary) Colin Powell presented the UN Security Council on Wednesday with a brief summary to justify the attack on Iraq. This was another act of diplomatic farce, concocted from a shameless lie. Everything is based on a grandiose swindle: as if the impending aggression was caused by the presence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and Baghdad’s alleged threat to US security and world peace.

    Kerry also performed recently. The scenario is the same, we were even too lazy to invent something "new" (Or the mind was not enough). A. Pokrovsky's article plus! I did not leave a stone unturned to the special services of the "invasion army", I support it !!!
  30. coserg 2012
    +1
    5 October 2013 19: 47
    The author is well done, I set (+).
  31. +8
    5 October 2013 19: 57
    Following the principle: "Who benefits from it?" for some reason, Jews are immediately visible, sorry Israelites. And the old Jewish pepper pot England for some reason sits on the priest exactly.
  32. +2
    5 October 2013 20: 00
    What prevents Syria from Assad? It makes it difficult to lay a gas pipe from Qatar through Saudi Arabia, Turkey and further to Europe - to France and Germany.


    Well, how much can this myth be fanned ?! Qatar has many routes and to throw a pipe outside Syria. But something has not been cast yet. And intentions are not visible.
    But to prevent the Iranian gas pipeline from passing through Iraq and Syria, this is the main thing for Qatar. Syria has already signed an agreement on the provision of territory for this pipe with Iran.
    1. +1
      5 October 2013 20: 23
      Quote: 31231
      But to prevent the Iranian gas pipeline from passing through Iraq and Syria, this is the main thing for Qatar. Syria has already signed an agreement on the provision of territory for this pipe with Iran.

      What about Iraq? You do not forget. that there is no border (common) between them
      1. +4
        5 October 2013 20: 28
        This doo, conclude an agreement with Syria and forget about Iraq ?!
        Iraq will give good, because the Shiites rule and its pipelines go through Syria. Do you think who sponsors radicals and martyrs in Iraq and why ?!
        Do you think the thugs from the Sunnis decided to carry out attacks against Shiites ?!
        It has long been clear that Qatar and the Saudis are waging an economic war with Iraq and Iran.
        1. -10
          5 October 2013 20: 50
          Quote: 31231
          Iraq will give good, because the Shiites rule and its pipelines go through Syria.

          From you. here you are - the distance is great.
          So far, Iraq has not given permission. Or am I wrong?


          Quote: 31231
          Do you think who sponsors radicals and martyrs in Iraq and why ?!

          radicals and martyrs are two different things. so who is sponsoring?

          Quote: 31231
          Do you think the thugs from the Sunnis decided to carry out attacks against Shiites ?!

          Iraq nor the Shiite state (for a minute). And the war between Shiites and Sunnis lasts not one hundred years. By the way, who organizes Shiite sabotage against the Sunnis? Have you heard what the Mahdi Army is?


          Quote: 31231
          It has long been clear that Qatar and the Saudis are waging an economic war with Iraq and Iran.

          Iraq only interlace there.
          1. 0
            5 October 2013 21: 19
            Why do you yourself when flying, gradually. Do you know whose meat they ate?
          2. +4
            5 October 2013 21: 24
            I fully understand your Jewish point of view. You sincerely would like to see disparate Iran, Syria, Iraq.

            By the way, I found it. http://mixednews.ru/archives/41443
            Planned for opening in 2016, Iran, Iraq and Syria signed an agreement in 2010 to create a 3480-mile gas pipeline connecting the South Pars Iranian field with European consumers.

            I don’t know the purity of this information, but now I’ll rummage around and find something more serious.

            In general, we will see.
            1. -6
              5 October 2013 21: 44
              Quote: 31231
              I fully understand your Jewish point of view. You sincerely would like to see disparate Iran, Syria, Iraq.

              Everyone has their own interests, we have Iran and Syria, you America, Europe and Georgia, probably all have their own goals and desires.
              1. +1
                5 October 2013 22: 00
                So I found a lot of analytics about economic issues in the BV.
                http://www.wprr.ru/archives/category/blizhnij-vostok/siriya
              2. +3
                6 October 2013 05: 46
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: 31231
                I fully understand your Jewish point of view. You sincerely would like to see disparate Iran, Syria, Iraq.

                Everyone has their own interests, we have Iran and Syria, you America, Europe and Georgia, probably all have their own goals and desires.


                Yes, in principle, one America is enough and that is not boiled but rather disarmed hi
          3. +4
            5 October 2013 21: 35
            I found the article in more detail.
            On June 25, 2011, in the Iranian port city of Bushehr, a Memorandum of Understanding was signed on the construction of a gas pipeline from the Iranian gas field Assalue through Iraq and Syria. A gas pipeline with a construction cost of $ 10 billion and a design capacity of 110 μm / d was tentatively distributed between Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Through an underwater branch, it was proposed to stretch it to Greece, and from there - to European markets. Called the Islamic Gas Pipeline, it was to be supplemented by the export of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from Syrian ports on the Mediterranean Sea. Latakia and Tartus are the two main Syrian ports.


            And it must have coincided that in 2011 riots broke out in Syria wink
            And Qatar offered Assad in 2008 to lay off the gas pipeline. Only then, for some reason, the unrest did not start.
            1. 0
              6 October 2013 20: 24
              Quote: 31231
              On June 25, 2011, in the Iranian port city of Bushehr, a Memorandum of Understanding was signed on the construction of a gas pipeline from the Iranian gas field Assalue through Iraq and Syria. A gas pipeline with a construction cost of $ 10 billion and a design capacity of 110 μm / d was tentatively distributed between Iraq,

              At all . even if you consider. that the mess in Syria began against the backdrop of the general so-called Arab spring, but most of all I don’t understand your enthusiasm for this unrealized project because Qatar certainly can drive gas through Syria, but having a huge fleet and facilities for liquefied gas. not particularly affected. When implementing this project, who would be the first to suffer? Right Russia. Would Iranian gas compete with whom? With Gazprom and for him, in general, that Iranian, that Qatar gas is equally worthless. because like it or not lower prices. less money to the budget, etc. Those. based on your logic. the biggest who is interested in a mess in Syria is Russia because in this case, neither Iranian nor Qatari gas will come to Europe.

              Quote: 31231
              Through an underwater branch, it was proposed to stretch it to Greece, and from there - to European markets

              Logic is an interesting thing. Here answer me. Iranian gas in Europe (via Syria) - is it good for Russia?
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        2. +2
          5 October 2013 21: 45
          Quote: 31231
          Iraq will give good, because the Shiites rule and its pipelines go through Syria.

          I dare to assure you that, although Shiites rule in Iraq, the Persians and Arabs do not so digest each other. Do not forget that these Shiites (Iran and Iraq) killed each other in the Iran-Iraq war for 8 years. It’s enough to recall many years fighting for the city of Basra, where the population is also Shiite. The Iranians, despite this, were unable to take the city.
          1. 0
            5 October 2013 22: 07
            Dear, this is an economy and a lot of money, here ethnic srach is not appropriate. And the srach of the 80s was arranged by Saddam. He was gone and there was no problem.
            1. 0
              5 October 2013 23: 40
              )) Sergey, you do not know enough Arabs and Persians. This srachka has been going on for centuries))
              the Arab will never look at the Persian as his own, and the Persian will never recognize the Arab as his own.
              1. 0
                6 October 2013 10: 03
                They can be friends against the Anglo-Saxons. If they want to. Later. When they throw five times and bomb ten times.
                1. 0
                  6 October 2013 10: 24
                  don’t argue. friendship between Shiites of different nationalities is a bluff. and you should not convince me of anything. trust me, I know the customs of eastern countries better.
                  I am also a de facto Shiite.
  33. -10
    5 October 2013 20: 03
    ... I need to start, I suppose, by knocking out chairs from under the priests. What kind of chair does China have if the United States sprinkles on it? Russia is his only chair.
    You should have lowered your country to the level of a chair under the Chinese> | <opoy. Or maybe this is a purely Freudian slip of the tongue, and afftap dreams of seeing the Russian Federation near China? Type to surrender to anyone just to show the fac.
    But in general, if you scream heart-rendingly about what kind of pandos are not good, and how to resist them, not paying attention to the very real yellow and green threats, then the matter can really end (God forbid from this) with the fact that Russia will find itself in a certain position under the Chinese > | <oop.
    And now you can minus. I'm not collecting pluses here, and the minuses are also good for me.
    1. +10
      5 October 2013 20: 23
      Not that we really wanted to resist. I strongly advise you to find on the net a simple Russian song "Do the Russians want wars". So, to feed the nostalgia ... It's just that right now the SGA is consistently trying to wind our guts on our fist. When the "yellow and green" dangers make at least a tenth the same, we will confront them. But first you have to call the mattress to order, and do it very hard. Alas, we have no way out ...
      1. +2
        6 October 2013 10: 20
        Do not mess with the mattress. Inappropriate. A fist needs to be trained. To see white, yellow, green, brown, black, orange, etc. What other colors? Forgot about blue and pink. Better ultramarine. Somehow closer to the sea.
    2. +3
      5 October 2013 21: 15
      Quote: Nagan
      Ignoring the very real yellow and green threats,

      Green who grows ??? and then, like, struggling with her, yelling: Terrorism !!!
    3. Rusich51
      +1
      6 October 2013 10: 56
      Quote: Nagan
      You should have lowered your country to the level of a chair under the Chinese> | <opoy. Or maybe this is a purely Freudian slip of the tongue, and the author in his heart dreams of seeing the Russian Federation under China? Like to surrender to anyone just to show the pend0cam the funk.


      Not only show!
      wassat When Russia looked west it was always in .ope. No wonder the double-headed eagle. We will look in both directions so that we are not hurt.
  34. +2
    5 October 2013 20: 07
    we have the lion's share of food - imported.


    I don’t know where the author buys products, what percentage is considered the lion's share, but personally I see few products from far abroad on our shelves. And official statistics speak for it. What does the author live in the 90s?
  35. +4
    5 October 2013 20: 24
    Analytical article with mathematical calculations. How dumb or insolent one must be to impose this heresy on the use of chemical weapons by Assad to the world.
    1. wax
      +3
      5 October 2013 22: 16
      If they were bombed, everything would pass. Now the details of the provocation will gradually come out.
  36. 10kAzAk01
    +9
    5 October 2013 20: 27
    But Russia does not want to weaken - otherwise it will sit on food cards, we have the lion's share of food - imported. We sit at a collapse in gas prices very low and for a long time. Perestroika-2 will begin - again, shelves in stores are empty and a very evil population.

    .......... It is difficult to overestimate food imports, but the export of grain from Russia is one of the leading in the world, and grain is not only food, but also a fodder base for animal husbandry. So "there was something to feed the cattle to the peasants" .... this grain will be enough for Russia ... in terms of increasing the livestock population ... there would be cattle ... but after joining the WTO ... the peasants as a social layer will soon die out ...
  37. +6
    5 October 2013 20: 29
    All Amerov’s state secretaries shake their tubes, but who, even to them, would have allowed them to smuggle OM or biological into the Congress (insanity and more). They always lie and quite predictably. But we need to quickly deal with problems in the army: rearm and achieve normal equipment. Yes, I forgot, it is necessary to drip on the brains of amers (an occasion can always be found). The article is a big plus.
  38. +1
    5 October 2013 20: 37
    Historical excursion
    On March 25, the commander of the 4th Army decided to postpone preparations for a gas attack on the ledge of Ypres, choosing a new sector at the location of 46 res. divisions and XXVI res. Corps - Pelkappele-Steenshtrat. At 6 km section of the attack front, gas bottles were installed
    ...
    The gas attack lasted 5-8 minutes. Of the total number of prepared cylinders with chlorine, 30% was used, which amounted to 168 to 180 tons of chlorine. Actions on the flanks intensified by fire with chemical shells.
    The result of the battle at Ypres, which began with a gas balloon attack on April 22 and lasted until mid-May, was the successive cleansing by the Allies of a significant part of the territory of the Ypres ledge. The Allies suffered significant losses - 15 thousand soldiers were defeated, of which 5 thousand were killed.

    No comments
  39. 77bob1973
    +3
    5 October 2013 20: 54
    I already wrote about the chemical attack, and even at first glance it was clear that this was a cheap production. Too all are relaxed and clean, the signs of poisoning are described correctly, you can only add that with the defeat, bowel movements also occur. Even during World War II, when the Germans tested the gases at the concentration camp inmates, they still survived, since a fatal defeat depends on many factors, even on the individual characteristics of the body.
  40. +1
    5 October 2013 20: 54
    Quote: AleksUkr
    containers were seized from them, which contain two kilograms of the Zarin poison gas, created before World War II in Germany.

    but it’s purely curious where they dug it up and how it was indexed? hi
  41. +2
    5 October 2013 21: 08
    Zarin in the suburbs of Damascus? In such a concentration? With so many casualties? No, gentlemen, not 1400 dead, but 1400 pairs of ears (with Kenyan roots) behind every word about Assad's gas attack.
  42. olviko
    +2
    5 October 2013 21: 22
    "In a word, questions, questions, questions - only questions. And it takes time to answer. But it doesn't take time to strike at Syria. In principle, everything is prepared."

    It is quite obvious that Syria’s chemical weapons are just an excuse to aggravate the situation in the Greater Middle East. The reason for global instability is the crisis of the global credit and financial system based on the US petrodollars. And the goal of the architects' plan of the new world order project to overcome the crisis is the victory in the Holy Land of the heirs of the Arab caliphate over the heirs of the soulless tyranny of Rome and, thus, freeing up space for the “kingdom of priests and the holy people” established by the Law of Moses. Which, as interpreted from the language of the ancient Jews, means: “The Last Days of Anger” in the form of a military “strike on the mountains of Israel” (but not on Jerusalem). The return of the Israeli Jews to sincere Russia, while the West is frozen. And the elimination of the “deceitfully created” by the Jews of the Deuteronomy of the Zionist state of Israel (by 2022). In the drawn layout and operational analysts, it should be understood that eliminating the cause (chemical disarmament in Syria) does not eliminate the cause (the oil crisis) and, moreover, does not deduce to achieve a goal (a new world order).
    That is, the "evil forces" will still find a reason and a way to disrupt the implementation of the UN Resolution on chemical weapons in Syria. And the Security Council will be forced to adopt new resolutions with toughening measures of “peace enforcement”. Simple calculations show that the disruption of the Syrian chemical disarmament program and the deployment of full-scale military operations there can be expected before the completion of the program: somewhere in February-March 2014. As for the exodus of Israel’s Jews from the Holy Land, on September 17.09.2012, 10, in an interview with the New York Post “political heavyweight” Kissinger firmly stated that “in 2022 years (by XNUMX) there will be no state of Israel.” And this “will not be” possible only as a result of the Great War leading to the achievement of the project goal. And if provocations with chemical weapons are not enough, a provocation with tactical nuclear weapons is quite likely to guarantee the regional conflict escalates into the Great War.
    One way or another, we are talking about the Holy Land "from the Nile to the Euphrates." The Nile is Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood. The Euphrates is Syria and the Alawites. The “Arab Spring” of 2011 brought the “Muslim Brotherhood” to power in Egypt, but they did not have the spirit to start a “holy war” against Israel. In 2013 "Muslim brothers" were underground, again "charged with a holy war." The UN measures to force Syria to peace will "drive into the corner" the Assad regime. And then, in a hopeless situation, the Alawites will strike the mountains of Israel. But Iran and the Russian Federation will be forced to intervene.
    http://imperiya.by/authorsanalytics19-17858.html






    .
    1. +6
      5 October 2013 21: 51
      Good evening Oleg!

      Your observations and conclusions are correct! good

      On my own I will add that plans to create a "Greater Israel" from the Nile to the Euphrates, on the territory of 6-7 Arab countries in North Africa and in the BV, were announced / "came to light" somewhere in the 60-70s, and only in 2011 began their implementation.
      Just in Syria, the hitch so far has come out, instead of the planned 2-4 months, the country has been resisting for the 3rd year and even began to win.
      Although the victory is still far away.
    2. 0
      6 October 2013 10: 46
      Kissinger is a provocateur. But he loves to chop the truth-womb. He probably has Slavic roots ...
  43. +1
    5 October 2013 21: 32
    What is the use of telling us this, and those who need it will not read it
  44. wax
    +5
    5 October 2013 21: 39
    According to U.S. intelligence, a chemical attack in a suburb of Damascus on August 21 killed 1429 people, including 426 children, Secretary of State John Kerry said.

    All this would be ridiculous, if it were not so explosive for the world. Arsonists do not need evidence; it is important for them to formulate an excuse. Against this background, the merit of our diplomacy is very impressive, and its fruits are not yet in sight.
  45. +3
    5 October 2013 21: 46
    But Russia does not want to weaken - otherwise it will sit on food cards, we have the lion's share of food - imported. We sit at a collapse in gas prices very low and for a long time

    - Yes, the shelves are packed with local grocery goods, and our manufacturers only dream of any share of the sales market. Well, come on, let's fuck us in favor
  46. DPN
    +4
    5 October 2013 21: 49
    Quote: 31231
    And official statistics speak for it. What does the author live in the 90s?

    It seems that the author still lives in our time and goes to Russian stores. In the area of ​​50 km from the city I did not see more than a herd of cows, except for monasteries. But on the grocery stores the same: bush legs, buffaloes from Argentina, kangaroos from Australia, perhaps because of this, sausages with chicken added, as well as classic sausages about fish and nothing to say.

    To the author plus for an informative article, in chemistry.
    1. +2
      5 October 2013 22: 24
      Food imports to Russia decreased in 2012 by 5,5%. According to a Rosbalt correspondent, this was announced by the head of the Ministry of Agriculture Nikolai Fyodorov in the State Duma during his speech at the State Duma.
      At the same time, he noted that imports are still high and are estimated at $ 40,2 billion.
      In particular, according to Fedorov, the share of imports of meat and meat products in resources is estimated at 2012% in 23,6 (2011% in 24,5), and 19,4% in milk and dairy products (in 2011 - 19,2%).
      Meanwhile, the head of the Ministry of Agriculture said that Russia is increasing the export of agricultural products. "Exports, on the contrary, increased by 24,5% and amounted to $ 16,6 billion. From January to December 2012, 22,4 million tons of cereals were exported, of which 16 million tons of wheat, 3,4 million tons of barley, 364 thous. tons of rice, 276 thousand tons of sunflower seeds, "he said.


      If for you and for the author a quarter of the Russian meat market is the lion's share, which will put us on the card system, then "everything is gone!"
  47. +2
    5 October 2013 21: 54
    The word "theirs" is incorrect.
  48. +4
    5 October 2013 21: 57
    By the way, as a former chemist-dosimetrist, I’ll say ... in case of sarin damage, etc. still uncontrolled urination and defecation along with convulsions ...
    1. +4
      5 October 2013 22: 15
      Good evening, dear Vladislav!

      You just noticed! good I have already forgotten these book symptoms for a long time, thank God I have not received real practice in a chemical attack.

      True, I note that with some diseases, drugs, poisoning and dying / "biological death" itself, the very act of "voluntary defecation and urination" is also present, and this fact only says that "the tone of the striated muscles", controlled both consciously and unconsciously, it dropped to zero, because the GM (brain) stopped sending nerve impulses to all parts of the body (they do not pass with sarin poisoning).
  49. yur
    yur
    +4
    5 October 2013 21: 57
    The article is a big plus. Indeed, it is clear to any sane person that if there are 1400 people who died from OM, then there must be several thousand affected, but alive (witnesses!). Where are they !?
  50. DPN
    +1
    5 October 2013 22: 11
    the states did not appreciate Russia a bit, it seems like Georgia, they wanted to deprive the last military base abroad.
    The forces were gathered, but there was no excuse to put them into action, they wanted to show who was the boss in the WORLD, but they stumbled.
  51. -10
    5 October 2013 22: 27
    too much, a real overdose, reading articles and comments from users, one gets the impression that we are really being provoked, excuse me, d.e.r.b.m.a. you won’t read too much anywhere, a simple Westerner will simply fall into a stupor when getting acquainted with the position of a RUSSIAN,
    complete irresponsible nonsense, but the serkvak is in Germany, and this is d.e.r.b.m.o, they are processing and studying,
    in nature, to read, so in every house there lives a family of fighting bears, and in the garage there is a hydrogen bomb and a couple of tons of uranium, with homemade ICBMs,
    and most importantly, adults, understanding the whole “crisis of stupidity”, continue to talk nonsense - PARADOX
    1. -10
      6 October 2013 00: 52
      I understand that the project is used by combat hamsters, it’s a pity - it was interesting,
      but what is happening on the resource is jihad, even though it is stupid and primitive,
      covered with Orthodox heresy, complete nonsense, ))))
    2. olviko
      +7
      6 October 2013 08: 39
      "A simple Westerner will simply fall into a stupor when getting acquainted with the position of a RUSSIAN."

      Dear, you have no reason to worry about the Western citizen; thanks to the efforts of the local media, he is very prepared. Rather, you should worry about the average Russian because, reading some of the pearls of the most democratic press, an unprepared reader can really go crazy. Here are a few examples of how to earn money:
      "Enough. Enough to calmly watch how the monstrous Putin-Assad tandem is at the helm. How Western democracies blindly follow the lead of Russian diplomacy... We cannot give freedom to the neo-isolationism that has gripped the Western public, this vile worldview that goes hand in hand with the rise of the Tea Party movement in the USA and the National Front in France...Those who believe that the battle of monsters (Bashar al-Assad against religious fanatics) concerns exclusively the Middle East are, in fact, deeply mistaken: the victory of one of them over the other will means strengthening the camp of enemies of all human values, the camp of haters of women and homosexuals, the camp of anti-Semitism and conspiracy theories. In other words, the camp of the sworn enemies of democracy."
      The West must not refuse strikes on Syria ("La Regle du Jeu", France)
      Bernard Shalscha

      Russia poses a threat when the West shows weakness and lack of understanding of the situation. Russia is a great enemy and competitor of the West in the pursuit of global influence and power.
      Landsbergis: Russia is the enemy and protector of dictators ("Aktualne.cz", Czech Republic)
      Martin Novák
      etc., etc., there’s just a sea of ​​this nonsense. If you look at the forums, the picture is no better, especially on Israeli ones, so don’t worry about it...









      о
    3. +1
      6 October 2013 20: 17
      Quote: harrimur
      , so in every house there lives a family of fighting bears, and in the garage there is a hydrogen bomb and a couple of tons of uranium, with a homemade ICBM,

      Well, what are you saying, my house is not that big to witches hold . In the yard they are hanging out in the village at the mother-in-law's.
      By the way, that village is part of the German National District. wink
      And you are right about the garage. Yes, yes, and this, and this, and that. But not homemade, God forbid, everything was assembled from factory parts, thanks to the nineties and our military-industrial complex.
      By the way, I forgot to mention that the ICBMs are tracked. The turret was for the dacha, but the chassis from the Black Eagle was adapted for ICBMs, so that everything is tip-top!
      good
  52. Kasyanov Sergey
    +3
    5 October 2013 22: 32
    Before us is our enemy - the USA... They have no morals, only dollars, for which they are ready to do “anything”.
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  53. Jogan-xnumx
    +4
    5 October 2013 22: 36
    Everything is correct, the analysis of events is excellent. good But it’s too early to rejoice. Since this provocation did not work, we must prepare for a new one. The mattress Zionists will not just calm down by drying themselves off... There will be something more sophisticated. In my opinion, the p.ndos clearly foresaw their current troubles with the budget. That’s why, perhaps, they were counting on “improving their health” at the expense of the Qatari and Saudi wallets...
  54. Kasyanov Sergey
    +1
    5 October 2013 22: 44
    Agree! I am grateful to the actions of our Foreign Ministry and Putin.
  55. +5
    5 October 2013 23: 08
    By the way, it would be interesting to know how in the area where the fighting happened there were old people, children and women who suffered from the chemical attack. And how quickly the bearded Islamists helped them and still left the infidels alive. Where did they find such victims? With such an intense confrontation on both sides, there are no civilians there and they leave or die very quickly - it’s like in our Stalingrad where there were still surviving civilians in the basements.
  56. +10
    5 October 2013 23: 57
    Quote: Povshnik
    In urban conditions, OM concentration is slightly higher than in open areas, and weather conditions must also be taken into account. Specialists of the Russian Chemical Safety Laboratory can explain better.

    In this case, the opinion of ErHaBeZeshnikov is not necessary. The article was prepared EXCELLENTLY. I am a professional artilleryman. In the early 80s I was taught the use of chemical munitions. The author of the article is CLEVER. This is true. This is how calculations are made for the use of such ammunition. I agree with the Conclusions.
  57. +4
    6 October 2013 00: 37
    The United States should be logical. Since it turned out that the chemical agent was used by rebel bandits, then let them bomb them.
  58. +2
    6 October 2013 02: 15
    the author did a good job. good It’s a pity that the right people won’t see this article and won’t ask the right questions to the wrong people.
  59. Current 72
    +2
    6 October 2013 03: 17
    I am a simple layman, I read the article with great interest. I agree with the conclusion of almost all forum members. The article is written simply and clearly, even for laymen like me. The article is a huge plus, and thanks to the author for the excellent work!!!
  60. +3
    6 October 2013 06: 27
    I didn’t believe these pro-American experts before, but now I read an article by a literate person and was once again convinced that they take the whole world for morons, peddling this muddy stuff. But here they missed the mark.
  61. +6
    6 October 2013 08: 29
    lonely (1) Yesterday, 23:40 ↑ New

    )) Sergey, you do not know enough Arabs and Persians. This srachka has been going on for centuries))
    the Arab will never look at the Persian as his own, and the Persian will never recognize the Arab as his own.
    Totally agree with you. The dividing line between Arabs and Persians lay in the area of ​​nationality. Since ancient times, Iran has gravitated not towards Arab, but towards European culture - for example, the penultimate Shah of Iran, Reza Pahlavi, was a colonel in the Russian army, fought in the First World War on the eastern front against the Germans, was awarded Russian awards and was fluent in Russian. The coup d'etat, as a result of which the ayatollah regime came to power, actually changed little in the minds of the Persians - they all consider themselves descendants of the Aryans, and consider the Arabs to be subhuman.
  62. khruslan
    +2
    6 October 2013 08: 41
    A very complex and erroneous thing has been done by the hands of the Russian Federation.
    The process of destroying chemical weapons in Syria from government forces has begun.
    The “Friends of Syria” will no longer be able to restrain it, so the “Friends” will guess that they can get Khim. answer to dense urban development.
    Well, Syria has no other weapons of mass destruction.
    1. +1
      6 October 2013 09: 37
      The Saudis and Qatar do not have weapons of mass destruction. And no one touches them. This is why older brothers exist, so as not to offend the younger ones.
      1. 0
        6 October 2013 11: 05
        Do the Saudis have no chemistry? I do not believe...
    2. Rusich51
      +3
      6 October 2013 11: 09
      Quote: khruslan
      A very complex and erroneous thing has been done by the hands of the Russian Federation.
      The process of destroying chemical weapons in Syria from government forces has begun.
      The “Friends of Syria” will no longer be able to restrain it, so the “Friends” will guess that they can get Khim. answer to dense urban development.
      Well, Syria has no other weapons of mass destruction.

      I think Russia and Syria will conclude a mutual assistance agreement, then all these little men will calm down.
      1. olviko
        +7
        6 October 2013 12: 06
        "I think Russia and Syria will conclude an agreement."

        Perhaps you are right: "The Lebanese newspaper An-Nahar published information that if the Syrian government wins over the militants, Bashar al-Assad wants to invite Russia to place a large naval base in Tartus on the territory of his country, instead of the currently existing Point Logistics and technical support (LMTO). The newspaper reported in detail that Syria would be ready to sign contracts for 100 years, as well as allocate a huge territory for the Russian base. At the same time, it was said that this military base would be larger than the Black Sea Fleet base in Sevastopol, and will give Russia the opportunity to firmly take control of the Mediterranean Sea.

        It is also possible that the military base will have its own military airfield, on which Russian fighters will be based.

        The telegraphist believes that such a military base will give Russia the opportunity not only to gain a foothold in the Mediterranean, but will also have a strong moral influence on Russia's allies and opponents in the region. The mere thought that Russian fighter jets are about to reach the capitals of certain states will greatly cool the ardor of various warlike monarchs.
        Judge for yourself, if this is so, then, as they say, the game is worth the candle.
        1. Rusich51
          +4
          6 October 2013 12: 27
          olviko
          I agree with you. The Middle East, this seething cauldron, with our presence can find the long-awaited peace.
    3. +6
      6 October 2013 13: 17
      Why wrong? Availability of chemical weapons in modern conditions are a weak guarantee of security. No, of course you can kill the civilian population in batches, but in this case no one will even assemble the Security Council. Whom chem. scare with weapons? Israel? They won’t be scared, but it will free their hands! The destruction of Syrian chemical weapons, approved by the Security Council and the UN, gives Syria more security than its presence! Assad did not use chemical weapons, but his possession of them made it possible for Uncle Sam to fabricate a reason for bombing Syria! Otherwise they would have to look for another reason!
    4. 0
      6 October 2013 20: 35
      Quote: khruslan
      so "Friends" guess what they can get

      On whom work khruslan ?
      Yes, about the use of chemical agents, among other things, Syria has officially recognized that several warehouses with chemical agents are located in uncontrolled territory.
      So, one more time
      On whom work khruslan ?
  63. +11
    6 October 2013 08: 54
    But Russia doesn’t want to weaken - otherwise it will end up on food cards, with us The lion's share of food is imported. When gas prices collapse, we will sit very low and for a long time. Perestroika-2 will begin - again the store shelves are empty and the population is very angry.

    Russia supplies itself 120% with grain and vegetables, 80% with meat and dairy products. So don’t lie about the “lion’s share” and cards. If you destroy the racketeering buyers and give the bribe-taking officials a hand in hand, in Russia in 2-3 years agriculture will rise and meet 100% of the needs.
    Agricultural producers in the Russian Federation have problems not with production, but with sales.
    Now Russian peasants are being blocked from entering the market by buyers, corrupt medical doctors, food importers and other bastards.
  64. In the reeds
    0
    6 October 2013 10: 28
    Quote: Mikhail3
    Not that we really wanted to resist. I strongly advise you to find on the net a simple Russian song "Do the Russians want wars". So, to feed the nostalgia ... It's just that right now the SGA is consistently trying to wind our guts on our fist. When the "yellow and green" dangers make at least a tenth the same, we will confront them. But first you have to call the mattress to order, and do it very hard. Alas, we have no way out ...

    There is always a way out. But from a mattress like this, there is a high probability of pregnancy
  65. +4
    6 October 2013 11: 21
    The article is excellent. But as if all this (not the article, of course) turned out to be a well-staged performance in order to deprive Syria of the only effective means of attack in the event of aggression. Therefore, the chemical attack was played out rather crudely to give Assad the opportunity to emerge from the crisis behind counting in advance, as if by chance, a way out - the renunciation of chemical weapons. Then who won this round? Israel and the company do not even think of giving up weapons of mass destruction. And there is no action against them, despite their aggressive policy and obvious complicity with murderous bandits. Let us also take into account the fact that the ruling clique (and it has long been behind all wars ) will not stop at using any weapons, including weapons of mass destruction, including against civilians (Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq). Then the question is: the undersupply of modern weapons to Syria and Iran according to early agreements (at least) is a particularly delicate game, or work in the same direction. And then step aside under the pretext of the impossibility, given the current state of the Russian Armed Forces, of resisting the United States. If NATO is completely free to supply weapons to bandits, then why does the Russian government not supply modern weapons to the legitimate government to counter the bandits, but is looking for some reservations about early agreements, about weapons only for defense, etc., etc.. But what about national interests? What about testing weapons in combat conditions? Or maybe this is a weapon that is only suitable for parades and exhibitions and for advertising in the news (like the Mace)?
    I think many people ask these questions.
  66. Ivan Denikin
    +5
    6 October 2013 13: 27
    According to sources from the "forest", the use of chemical weapons in Syria was carried out by US intelligence agents together with specialists from the Mossad. The shells were transported from Israeli territory and transferred to militants from the Islamic group in Syria. Currently, in the operational department of the Regional Directorate of Military Operations, a showdown is taking place to clean up the TV channel. "special operation" in the SR. The main goal is to distract the Senate Intelligence Committee from excessive attention from information about the involvement of the DIA and the CIA in the terrorist attack using chemical weapons in Syria.
  67. +3
    6 October 2013 13: 56
    Everything would be fine, only the author is not strong in combat chemistry and it would be better not to write something he doesn’t know. Well, first and foremost, “chemistry” is used most successfully in fragmentation ammunition. Then any wound to the enemy is fatal, regardless of whether he is wearing protective equipment or not. Pouring chemicals onto protected troops is completely ineffective, especially since sarin is deactivated relatively quickly naturally, and in the Syrian heat. It lies in the snow many times longer.
    Sarin is an ether, not an acid. And that’s why it stays in plastic canisters for a long time.
    These are the author's obvious mistakes. As for the symptoms of the lesion, I agree. They are very specific. If death does not occur immediately from respiratory paralysis, then the convulsions arch the spinal muscles and the person or animal dies in an unnatural position, bending backwards. Such cases were not presented in the film.
  68. +2
    6 October 2013 15: 27
    this Syrian Kursk Bulge? Yes, some things are off topic. But still to the point! Respect to the author. He clearly explained a rather difficult situation.
  69. July
    +2
    6 October 2013 16: 22
    The article is wonderful, thanks to the author! The comments are also great, with the exception of 2-3 idiots. Of course, the article is not for the West, for us! In the West, such a publication is basically impossible! It’s clear that Western bigwigs know everything perfectly well, and probably even more than is written in this article, and the funny thing is, they know that we know about this, but they don’t give a damn! Once, in my distant youth, I was tricked into playing cards on a train as a “road fool.” The condition, as if by chance, was that the bets could be raised indefinitely, but given the dough, I had a hard time realizing that they would keep the cards hidden, but at the same time raise the bets until my money ran out. This “road” very much reminds me of the position of the West, they don’t care what trump cards you have, buying everything and everyone in this world, we still have to remain fools for them. That’s why a completely different decision on Syria came as a shock to them, and they still can’t come to their senses and understand what happened?
  70. +1
    6 October 2013 16: 23
    Why shake the air here, I saw a or naglogsaxa shit as best you can. As for the article, in my opinion, a black monkey on the UN podium with a test tube is enough...
  71. yuri p
    +2
    6 October 2013 20: 33
    I understood with my mind and heart that when I was little, my ass was wrong, and after this article I also became convinced.
  72. +2
    6 October 2013 20: 48
    What an article! It's a pity that you can only put one "+". The author is not just a specialist in chemical warfare agents, but also an intelligent person, capable of analysis. It’s immediately obvious: he received his education in the USSR.
  73. 0
    6 October 2013 23: 31
    Alexander Pokrovsky is the one who wrote “Shoot”? Then the article is literate - by education he belongs to the Fleet's NBC protection system.
  74. Western Faces
    0
    8 October 2013 12: 16
    Article +, everything is clear and intelligible
  75. 0
    10 October 2013 12: 14
    Finally some sound reasoning, I’m not an expert on chemical weapons, but you can’t argue with mathematics. Then the question arises: why didn’t our diplomats openly lay out such calculations during the negotiations and announce the lies for all to hear? Maybe if the stars light up, it means someone needs it?
  76. 0
    11 October 2013 10: 27
    "and the gold reserve is only 130 billion" You don’t have to read further, a standard article on the topic “it’s all Omerek’s fault,” because in fact, 440 billion. The main creditors are foreign governments (including not the most friendly ones), the obligations are formalized by government debt papers, so no one is not interested in the United States refusing to fulfill its obligations; on the contrary, the whole world will support them with all its might. The government debt per capita or to GDP among the Americans is far from the worst. For example, the USA has debt/GDP = about 100%, and in Luxembourg it is more than 3400%; per capita in the US is 54 thousand, and in the UK 147 thousand. This all just means that the probability of default is non-zero, but it is always non-zero. In Russia, the situation with the state debt can be called simply fabulous, but this does not stop the government from cheating its people with social services.
  77. timontim
    0
    11 October 2013 12: 15
    The states decided to use the old scenario. Like in Iraq. They drove troops there to destroy chemical weapons and then said “oops, that was a mistake.” Now Baoar needs to distract his fellow citizens with something from the ass where he failed. And a suitable option is a war in Syria. Same thing it was in 99 when the Serbs paid for Clinton's sperm

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