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D. Bykov. How to save Russia from nationalism

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After the fight in Kapotnya, when the so-called fighters with illegal migration attacked the hostel with knives and smoke bombs (I quote official reports), domestic media widely talked about the fact that it is time, comrades, to do something with manifestations of nationalism.


And then we have every day on the outskirts of the fight with the use of the cutting, then fire. And politicians - both opposition and federal - every now and then get the trump card from their sleeves: illegal migration. And some publicists are already asking for all the forces of society, from the opposition to the most statesmen, to unite in the fight against nationalism, or else it will explode. Apparently, other publicists say, our society really hurts if such nationalism appeared in it under the guise of restoring order.

I must disappoint you, dear friends: nationalism does not appear and does not disappear, it always exists in any society, it is organically inherent in people for whom only congenital signs like nationality, gender, age or hair color matter. People of low development do not see anything at all except for these signs: their receptors are not adapted for thinner things. The problem is that in a developed and well-functioning society, these guys do not make up the majority. Every garden has weeds and cultivated plants; any gardener knows that weeds are much more tenacious. Nationalism is not a sign of the disease of society, it is a kind of nettle, the same part of the garden as an apple tree or aster; another thing is that if you trample down anything culturally, complex and demanding in the garden, a weed will reign in it, and then it is too late to fight it. Yes, and it makes no sense to fight him, to be honest: he is indestructible. It is just necessary to cultivate cultivated plants, and our gardeners are afraid of the plague.

Now, sorry for another biological analogy, fighting nationalism is no more meaningful occupation than treating a rash when the body is infected with syphilis. A rash is a common manifestation of a common illness, it goes away when the nose falls. And syphilis, which affects Russian society, is the absence of cultural policy, a ban on public discussion, the suppression of living thought and a panic fear of ideology. This is where her talk about the “special path”, geopolitics, the Anglo-Saxon plot, the Asian danger and criminal migrants take its place. Nature does not tolerate emptiness - the vacuum is filled immediately. If a country is afraid of the future - it slips into the Middle Ages. If there is no one to work in it, migrants work in it.

If it is forbidden to think in it - nationalism becomes the dominant rule in it, that is, hatred of others. It’s unknown who owns it, because it’s impossible to think about national identity either. You can get into extremists or instigators.

In the late USSR - far from ideal - nationalism knew its place, because people had not forgotten how to think about more serious problems. With rolling back on all fronts - be it culture, industry or morality - he climbed out like a weed in a neglected garden, and will soon occupy all the free space. What to do? Grow wiser. Because planting is useless. Today it is necessary not to plant, but to sow. That most reasonable, kind, eternal. If you do not know how - and if you are afraid as the fire of this sensible and good - it is better for you, honestly, to invite another gardener.
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  1. bomg.77
    bomg.77 5 October 2013 07: 21 New
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    Healthy Nazianism is a blessing, the most important thing is that it does not slide into Nazism in Russia, it is possible to do so throughout its existence.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 5 October 2013 12: 03 New
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      For me personally, the concept of nationalism embraces a more voluminous definition; in my understanding, nationalism is self-awareness as part of one’s own nation, one’s own nation, love and respect of the nation, respect for its traditions, culture, history and faith.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 5 October 2013 14: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        For me personally, the concept of nationalism embraces a more voluminous definition.

        I dare to correct you a little bit - what you described is patriotism, normal healthy patriotism, and nationalism in its original definition is a phenomenon of primitive separation of people by origin, and such a multinational country like ours is harmful, unless, of course, we bring together all the indigenous people of our country countries into a single supernation, then yes - nationalism in small doses will even be useful.
        As for the respected .. oh, forgive the disrespectful author of this article, then, forgive not the liberals, who have always preached fooling and lack of culture, to teach us, without even understanding the essence of the problem that led to "Kapotnya", however ...
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 5 October 2013 14: 27 New
          +8
          "primitive division of people by origin" That is, in your opinion, there should not be any division? Let everyone come and the Russians will disappear in 50 years, because the division is primitive! :)
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 5 October 2013 14: 58 New
            +3
            Quote: New Russia
            That is, in your opinion, there should not be any separation?

            Not in any way! I didn’t say that, I just gave a short definition of nationalism: they say I’m an Englishman, I’m "good", and you are French, so you are a radish) like that. Say - this is Nazism, because Nazism is simply an extreme form of nationalism.
            As for the visitors, they undoubtedly pose a threat to us, because they don’t perceive our culture and even language, they are a source of ethnic crime, and they also take away the work of our citizens, do not pay taxes, etc. And I, who are not indifferent to the fate of my country, openly advocate serious restrictions on immigration, with some reservations: leave the entry for Belarusians and Ukrainians as it is now, and for Russians (especially from the former Central Asian republics and the Baltic states) - on the contrary, make it as easy as possible!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 October 2013 12: 09 New
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      D. Bykov is that plant that shouted at the swamp in the swamp? It’s time to save Russia from such as bulls. By the way, he definitely receives a salary from the State Department and is not shy about it.
      1. Samy
        Samy 5 October 2013 14: 02 New
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        Yes, you listen to Jewish Bykov, Muslim speakers at mosques and you start to think - maybe nationalism is not so bad?
        1. alone
          alone 5 October 2013 20: 07 New
          +6
          and what did you listen to Muslim speakers in the mosque? how do you know what they are talking about? the speakers are different. if you mean all the Muslim speakers, you are very mistaken. and if you mean the Wahhabi speakers who are calling for jhad, please write it is not copulating all hi
          1. GREAT RUSSIA
            GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 20: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: lonely
            and what did you listen to Muslim speakers in the mosque? how do you know what they are talking about? the speakers are different. if you mean all the Muslim speakers, you are very mistaken. and if you mean the Wahhabi speakers who are calling for jhad, please write it is not copulating all hi

            Namely, it is not necessary to measure all Muslims with one measure.
      2. Andrey Skokovsky
        Andrey Skokovsky 5 October 2013 14: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        D. Bykov is that plant that shouted at the swamp in the swamp? It’s time to save Russia from such as bulls. By the way, he definitely receives a salary from the State Department and is not shy about it.

        D Bykov is a complete liberal and a vivid representative of the 5 column, I would say - this is an intelligent fool .. who consistently turns into an enemy,
        however, he cannot be denied the mind, and in this article he raises the real problem, but passing it off as the only reason for nationalism,
        therefore, we will still be more consistent than this gentleman, and we will not lie to ourselves.

        1 Is the moral and moral degradation of the people throughout the territory of the destroyed USSR the cause of nationalism today?
        Answer: only partially, as an example of nationalism in the last years of the USSR. at the end of the 80's there was no Pepsi generation, but there was nationalism!

        2 Is moral degradation of the people a problem today?
        Answer: is and what else! stand in the evening at the supermarket at the checkout and see how our fellow citizens consider it possible to behave towards others.
    3. user
      user 5 October 2013 12: 10 New
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      Yes, there is no nationalism in Russia in its classical sense, there is a reaction of society to the inaction of the authorities and the indulgence of power by all kinds of "diasporas" (by the way, someone can say what relation this word has to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation).
      As long as the authorities pretend that there is no ethnic crime in Russia, as long as the rights of guest workers are placed above the rights of Russian citizens, until then we will have what Bykov is trying to call "Russian nationalism".
      If this nationalism were, then we would have a different country, but certainly not Russia.
      And now offhand, how many of the visitors to this site have in their family tree some Russians. And if he has, then I would like to see the place where he lives (well, very curious).
      1. drop
        drop 5 October 2013 13: 12 New
        +4
        You are right in many ways. I think that most of the inhabitants of our country will support you. Bykov's article will only cause contention in society. Those who come and receive residence status in Russia must live according to our laws. In our family, at least until the sixth generation, Russians. The ancestors fought even with Stolypin’s father in Bulgaria, then mastered according to the program of his son, the Prime Minister of Siberia. Sincerely.
        1. alone
          alone 5 October 2013 20: 12 New
          +3
          You are absolutely right, Yuri Grigoryevich! Those who receive a residence permit must live according to the laws of Russia and respect these laws. And for them to respect these laws, the letter of the law must work, where everyone, regardless of nationality or religion, must answer to it. until this happens, people like bulls will write similar articles.

          P.S. our fathers and grandfathers, being citizens of a single state, did not save the country from the Nazis so that their grandchildren would play at a meeting today hi
      2. Alexei
        Alexei 5 October 2013 17: 05 New
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        Quote: user
        And now offhand, how many of the visitors to this site have in their family tree some Russians. And if he has, then I would like to see the place where he lives (well, very curious).

        I'm interested too. For example, I have Circassians, gypsies, Estonians and Russians. Hto me This same nationalism will not go through the rink for me? sad Well, the fact that they are extinguishing Gaster is simply a defense mechanism of society activated. We must somehow bring down the flow of migrants, well, such as temperature.
        1. mark7
          mark7 5 October 2013 18: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexej
          Well, Russian.

          With all due respect, but there is very little Slavic in you. The question is different, in squeezing out the titular nation of its traditions, customs, etc., because even the gypsies honor their customs
    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 6 October 2013 06: 57 New
      +1
      I'm a nationalist, but I'm not a shaven scumbag. Healthy nationalism is inherent in anyone with imperial ambitions. And you don't need to save me from me.
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 5 October 2013 07: 21 New
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    let the author explain this to the kaukauz people, otherwise they came down from the mountains and completely lost their head off the plains. I am not a nationalist, but if in my house a “guest”, especially an uninvited one, starts to struggle, I am not ashamed to give him a shortcut
    1. bask
      bask 5 October 2013 07: 27 New
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      Hi Andryukh.
      Quote: andrei332809
      The author explains this to the Kazakazians. But they went down from the mountains and completely lost their head from the plain expanses. I do not

      It is possible, but difficult, to explain to them. And only from the standpoint of BRUGAL FORCE (law).
      D. Bykov. How to save Russia from nationalism
      .
      The question is not posed correctly: (HOW TO SAVE RUSSIA FROM RADICAL ISLAMIS).
      And the power to cure, from political impotence in this matter.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 5 October 2013 07: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: bask
        Hi Andryukh

        healthy, namesake! good morning (we have morning)
        Quote: bask
        .And only from the standpoint of BRUGAL FORCE (law)

        in this case, I think the law should be taken into our own hands. nothing good will come from bureaucrats
        1. bask
          bask 5 October 2013 07: 48 New
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          Quote: andrei332809
          In the case of, I think, the law must be taken into our own hands. nothing good will come from bureaucrats

          It’s exactly the namesake. But try the throne and they’ll put you right there. They’ll slap you too (Russian article, for kindling ... ,,). How do you resist?
          My resistance is that in the markets they own, I don’t buy anything.
          And raising children, that they would know who they were dealing with. And the boys, that would be engaged in Russian hand-to-hand combat.
          Youth Movement ,, Jogging ,, smoking cessation and alcohol healthy lifestyle and pursuit.
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 5 October 2013 07: 45 New
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        Quote: bask
        The question is not posed correctly: (HOW TO SAVE RUSSIA FROM RADICAL ISLAMIS).
        And where did you see the non-radical Islamists? request
        1. bask
          bask 5 October 2013 08: 00 New
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          Quote: Nagan
          e. Have you seen the Islamists irradical?

          I have many friends of Kazakhs professing Islam.
          Among them there is not, not one, radical Islamist.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 5 October 2013 08: 07 New
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            I also have many Basque friends of Kazakhs, and they are all Muslims, among them there are also not so much radical, but Islamists
            )) although, as the Nagan-Islamist said, in principle, it cannot be not radical.
            1. bask
              bask 5 October 2013 08: 34 New
              +7
              Quote: Gleb
              The Nagan-Islamist, in principle, cannot be not radical.

              A play on words. Yes, it was expressed inaccurately. (But in fact, it is clear).
              Radical Islam is the No. 1 threat to Russia.
              1. alone
                alone 5 October 2013 20: 14 New
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                Quote: bask
                Radical Islam is the No. 1 threat to Russia.


                to be more precise, Wahhabism is the No. 1 threat for Russia
            2. Very old
              Very old 5 October 2013 10: 49 New
              +5
              Gleb, someone once confused the definitions of "Islam" and "Islamism" People professing Islam, by definition, Islamists, EVERYTHING. And this mistake went for a walk in all the media and in society. A Muslim and an Islamist are one and the same thing. Bandits and terrorists are respectfully called "radical" Islamists. But they are not Muslims or Islamists at all. The sons of Iblis and the devil. All world religions preach true human values ​​and declare human life as the highest value. A dirty river of extremism poured into Russia with the coming to power of irresponsible, greedy people who worship the golden calf. They deeply do not care about our age-old values, culture and identity. These people did little to prevent the penetration of various foreign preachers into the country, they invited them, courted them. So we got a lot of all kinds of non-profit funds sponsored by the West. "Teachers" came from S. Arabia and other countries where Islam is supposedly pure ( By the way, in SA Wahhabism is the state religion) "Correct" Christian, Buddhist Krishnaite ones have come in large numbers ... God, who is not there in the vastness of Russia. It looks a lot like a planned conspiracy against us. Religious discord, information war, the substitution of false ones for our primordial values ​​- all this is aimed at further weakening Russia. The task of these figures is to prevent Russia from rising. Something I got into conversation ...
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 5 October 2013 11: 20 New
                +1
                someone once confused? try to convince me with the arguments that Islamism and Islam are one and the same. maybe I understand. as long as I understand that Islam is a RELIGION, and Islamism is a movement (political, spiritual, social ...), ideology , which is based on Islam, but is not a religion
                1. Very old
                  Very old 5 October 2013 11: 58 New
                  +2
                  Gleb, it seems, I can't convince you, and why? This is your Opinion, and I reckon with it. I also expressed only my personal vision. And yet the main problem is the power's alienation from such a painful problem. Her inaction threatens all of us not just with problems, but unimaginably terrible. Many comrades served in the same regiment. I will not enumerate how many nationalities. We lost not only industry, we got the collapse of the Army ...
                  1. Hleb
                    Hleb 5 October 2013 12: 25 New
                    +1
                    it’s not just an opinion, it’s an ordinary literacy. Can’t you call black white just because it is a personal opinion? It is also here. There is a nation and nationalism, there is a nation and national socialism, there is Islam and Islamism.
              2. Hleb
                Hleb 5 October 2013 11: 52 New
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                and the concepts of nation and Nazism have not been confused?))
                1. Very old
                  Very old 5 October 2013 12: 46 New
                  +2
                  Well, what are we arguing about? The Nazis have appeared here too, despite the fact that we paid the most terrible price to curb his elms. I won’t stop repeating: it’s time for the authorities to seriously, toughly and irreconcilably fight terrorism (any), Extremism (any) - no matter how tattered they are. Power is inactive. We had such a case - two young police officers caught a pedophile who had not yet managed to ruin the infant life. A very tough villain was enlightened, according to the full program, as they say. The boys were fired. Here it is, power ...
                  1. Hleb
                    Hleb 5 October 2013 12: 54 New
                    0
                    Well, no, this is not a dispute. And if I argue, it is only by definition of terms, concepts. have you started from this? no?
                    1. Very old
                      Very old 5 October 2013 19: 29 New
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                      Glebushka, closed the conversation. We are not grandmothers at the porch on the bench. Total to you
                      1. Hleb
                        Hleb 6 October 2013 04: 54 New
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                        No, how was it closed? Why did you open it with me then? I naturally don’t consider myself a grandmother, because I either admit that I’m wrong, or I prove that I’m right. You refer only to a personal opinion, saying- SOMETHING, SOMETHING mixed up ... nothing concrete, just supposedly, someone- then ... so which of us is likened to access grandmothers?
                        (You won’t be offended if in the future I call you a NAZI? Well, according to your own logic about Islam and Islamism, you won’t deny that you have anything to do with the NATION. And I’ll just say that when someone mixed up these two concepts and therefore, you as a person professing the values ​​of your nation, respecting, loving, protecting, proud
                        her .... "by definition" -NACIST)
                        nothing personal, just by your logic
            3. Zymran
              Zymran 5 October 2013 13: 55 New
              +4
              Tatars are also mostly not fanatics.
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 5 October 2013 14: 03 New
                +4
                Tatars are generally not religious at all, like Russians, only in words "Orthodox" and they are "Muslims"
    2. creak
      creak 5 October 2013 08: 56 New
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      Nationalism in our country is a natural reaction to the lack of a sane national policy. The unwillingness of the state to protect the interests of its citizens forces them to take this matter into their own hands - unfortunately, it does not work out differently. The position of the cat Leopold is not suitable here - the example of Western Europe somehow does not inspire ... Guests should feel that they are at our place, not at home ..
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 5 October 2013 11: 22 New
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        Quote: ranger
        Nationalism in our country is a natural reaction to the lack of a sane national policy. The unwillingness of the state to protect the interests of its citizens forces them to take this matter into their own hands - unfortunately, it does not work out differently. The position of the cat Leopold is not suitable here - the example of Western Europe somehow does not inspire ... Guests should feel that they are at our place, not at home ..
        +++ You walk down the street, and my thoughts are my city, or have "invaders" already captured it? Maybe it's time to create partisan detachments? There is no hope for our power.
        1. Max otto
          Max otto 5 October 2013 17: 50 New
          +6
          All these events begin to appear from the fact that the authorities are not able to ensure public order, they are too lazy, they think that such public appearances facilitate their functioning. But this is a bad idea. Sooner or later, these movements will have a leader who is usually charismatic and not always sane (Hitler’s example), who will be able to combine them and crush them. And then this power will interfere with them, and a coup cannot be avoided. Where in this case the country will go is a big question.
          Under no circumstances should the transfer of disciplinary functions to public associations be allowed. There is a Constitution, a criminal code, and there should not be any "nails". The law must either work, or such a law is not needed. Public associations should act directly on the authorities and the administration and not on people, then it will be legitimate and useful, not to let them get lazy, and merge with the "elected authorities" who want to become local kings.
          And at the expense of tolerance:
  3. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 5 October 2013 07: 23 New
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    To begin with, hang Bykov himself am But we do not have 37 request And then explain to the especially gifted - you do not want to live well request Do not! But you will hang next negativeThose wishing to raise the topic of nationalism from all sides will decrease by an order of magnitude or even a few
  4. Delink
    Delink 5 October 2013 07: 35 New
    +6
    - It’s better for you, honestly, to invite another gardener.

    Does Bykov consider himself the correct gardener of nationalism? Another sandpiper swamp.
  5. Fox
    Fox 5 October 2013 07: 37 New
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    that's what is strange, we shout "nationalism"!, but they cut the Russians only in different "camps" silently. that in Uzbekistan, in Tajikistan, Chechnya ... and the nationalists again climb into Russia. After all, they did everything at home expel the Russians, and now they are coming to us! and here it is without a healthy and strong nationalism in any way!
  6. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 07: 40 New
    +4
    Internationalism can be directed against nationalism. The power of RUSSIA has always been in the friendship of its peoples.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 5 October 2013 07: 49 New
      +7
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      . The power of RUSSIA has always been in the friendship of its peoples.

      And you do not want to be friends with a female dog am bully
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 5 October 2013 07: 51 New
      +8
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      The power of RUSSIA has always been in the friendship of its peoples.

      Not always, but only when the authorities supported this friendship, not only in words, but if necessary, with the help of law enforcement agencies and even the armed forces. The current separatists would try not to be friends if the Ministry of Internal Affairs were still headed by Beria.
    3. bask
      bask 5 October 2013 08: 15 New
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      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      Internationalism can be directed against nationalism. The power of RUSSIA has always been in the friendship of its peoples.

      Yeah ... But you GREAT RUSSIA is a storyteller. Go down to the sinful earth.
      Take the Moscow-Makhachkala train and learn a lot of interesting things. (If you finish).
      Not with us, it’s the matter. They don’t want to be friends with us. They hate the Russians, the Russian culture, they vaccinate with their mother’s milk.
      And now there are also radical Islamic sects (Wahhabis).
    4. Airman
      Airman 5 October 2013 11: 41 New
      +6
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      Internationalism can be directed against nationalism. The power of RUSSIA has always been in the friendship of its peoples.

      Friendship is friendship, but if the "friend" becomes impudent, a good owner should always remind him of the rules of good form. And the commandments of Christ about turning the cheek are inappropriate here.
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 5 October 2013 16: 05 New
        +7
        Quote: Povshnik
        Friendship is friendship, but if the "friend" becomes impudent, a good owner should always remind him of the rules of good form. And the commandments of Christ about turning the cheek are inappropriate here.
        +++ As it comes around, so it will respond. We have a lot of "friends", we need to reduce their number and the sooner, the better.
        1. I am
          I am 5 October 2013 18: 26 New
          +1
          For such as in the picture - shooting on the spot! And not otherwise!
      2. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 18: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Ruslan67
        And you do not want to be friends with a female dog

        Do not scoff at me. I didn’t say anything bad to you. But you can’t plant a cat and a female rat.
        Quote: Nagan
        Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
        The power of RUSSIA has always been in the friendship of its peoples.

        Not always, but only when the authorities supported this friendship, not only in words, but if necessary, with the help of law enforcement agencies and even the armed forces. The current separatists would try not to be friends if the Ministry of Internal Affairs were still headed by Beria.

        I agree. I completely agree with you.
        Quote: bask
        Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
        Internationalism can be directed against nationalism. The power of RUSSIA has always been in the friendship of its peoples.

        Yeah ... But you GREAT RUSSIA is a storyteller. Go down to the sinful earth.
        Take the Moscow-Makhachkala train and learn a lot of interesting things. (If you finish).
        Not with us, it’s the matter. They don’t want to be friends with us. They hate the Russians, the Russian culture, they vaccinate with their mother’s milk.
        And now there are also radical Islamic sects (Wahhabis).

        Take this train yourself and travel. At the age of 13 I got on the Mineralnye Vody-Moscow train and looked. I live in the North Caucasus, I know better, I don’t have to be clever. I grew up without a father and I'm not up to fairy tales.
        Quote: Povshnik
        Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
        Internationalism can be directed against nationalism. The power of RUSSIA has always been in the friendship of its peoples.

        Friendship is friendship, but if the "friend" becomes impudent, a good owner should always remind him of the rules of good form. And the commandments of Christ about turning the cheek are inappropriate here.

        I fully support the right.
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 5 October 2013 19: 23 New
          +2
          Which Caucasus do you live in? I live in Adygea and everything is fine here, you hardly live in Chechnya and Dagestan, the person spoke specifically about Chechnya and Dagestan, speaking about the Caucasus
          1. alone
            alone 5 October 2013 20: 22 New
            +3
            regions should be called by their own name. Caucasus is still not Dagestan and Chechnya.
            1. GREAT RUSSIA
              GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 20: 55 New
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              Quote: lonely
              regions should be called by their own name. Caucasus is still not Dagestan and Chechnya.

              It is Omar, I agree. He said about the Caucasus, and in the Caucasus, not only Dagestan and Chechnya. You are right.
          2. GREAT RUSSIA
            GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 20: 54 New
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            Quote: New Russia
            Which Caucasus do you live in? I live in Adygea and everything is fine here, you hardly live in Chechnya and Dagestan, the person spoke specifically about Chechnya and Dagestan, speaking about the Caucasus

            Dear if this is for me, then I live in Karachay-Cherkessia. By the way, not far.
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 5 October 2013 21: 08 New
              +4
              I thought that there. because if you lived in Ingushetia and Chechnya or Dagestan, you would have left there a long time ago. When a Caucasian speaks in crime reports, they mean precisely these rotten places. Ossetians, by the way, are generally ethnically Aryans of the Iranian language family
              1. GREAT RUSSIA
                GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 22: 00 New
                +1
                Well, we Adygs or Karachaevtsy, Balkarians were still the ancestors of the peoples of the Western Caucasus, Alans. I don’t know the history of the origin of the Chechen or Dagestan people. But I’m going to study. History is my favorite science, or rather one of my favorites.
                1. New Russia
                  New Russia 5 October 2013 22: 18 New
                  +1
                  I did not know that the Circassians were descendants of the Alans. This explains their greater adequacy :)
                  1. GREAT RUSSIA
                    GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 23: 05 New
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                    Quote: New Russia
                    I did not know that the Circassians were descendants of the Alans. This explains their greater adequacy :)

                    The Alans are the ancestors of such peoples as the Karachaevtsy and Balkarians (but they were a single people), Adygeans and Circassians.
                    Didn’t you really know? Or are you kidding.
                    If you want, then I will write everything I know about Alans and other peoples of the Caucasus.
                    Sincerely. hi
                    1. New Russia
                      New Russia 6 October 2013 03: 01 New
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                      I didn’t know, I knew that the Alans (Ossetians) used to live in present-day Spain, south of the Alps and even in northern Africa :) The Iranian language group, their closest relatives with almost identical languages ​​live in Gorny Badakhshan in Tajikistan, but there they have dark brown hair , blue and green eyes, because they were not conquered by the Turks in these places.
                      1. GREAT RUSSIA
                        GREAT RUSSIA 6 October 2013 09: 25 New
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                        Quote: New Russia
                        I didn’t know, I knew that the Alans (Ossetians) used to live in present-day Spain, south of the Alps and even in northern Africa :) The Iranian language group, their closest relatives with almost identical languages ​​live in Gorny Badakhshan in Tajikistan, but there they have dark brown hair , blue and green eyes, because they were not conquered by the Turks in these places.

                        Dear actually Ossetians are not descendants of the Alans. Ossetians and Georgians belong to the Iranian-speaking group, and the Alans are Turkic-speaking. Miller's assumption that the Ossetians are descendants of the Alans were hasty. Only in Soviet times it was proved that Karachaevtsy, Balkars, Cherkesses, Adygs and Kabardians are descendants of the Alans.
              2. Lakkuchu
                Lakkuchu 6 October 2013 15: 42 New
                +1
                Quote: New Russia
                mean these rotten places.

                This is not a rotten place, it's your rotten tongue.
      3. alone
        alone 5 October 2013 20: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Povshnik
        Friendship is friendship, but if the "friend" becomes impudent, a good owner should always remind him of the rules of good form. And the commandments of Christ about turning the cheek are inappropriate here.


        if it is impudent, then it should not be punished by a simple Russian with a baton, but by ordinary a policeman by law! lawlessness begins where there is no fear of the law.
        so, first of all, the authorities and their punishing power of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Prosecutor's Office are to blame. who should be shaken first of all.
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 5 October 2013 21: 10 New
          0
          Politics give this cover for criminals of the barbarians, they will never back away from it until they are hanged on poles, scum
      4. Dober
        Dober 5 October 2013 21: 05 New
        +4
        Quote: Povshnik
        And the commandments of Christ about the turned cheek are inappropriate here.

        Absolutely. That commandment applies primarily to a fellow / fellow believer. To the one to whom I turn my "cheek" in the hope of forgiveness / understanding ...
        I will turn my cheek to the enemy to be sure of his intentions 100%. Then I'll take out my jaw. Then, with a knee in the balls ... then with the edge of the palm in the Adam's apple, knocking down the breath, I break the ribs with the heel, or according to options ...
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 5 October 2013 21: 11 New
          +2
          You can still eyeballs angry squeeze out!
    5. RUSS
      RUSS 5 October 2013 12: 13 New
      +3
      The strength of Russia is in the friendship of peoples, but is this friendship? More precisely reciprocal friendship? Everyone is friends with us as long as the power in Russia is strong (not now) or when "we feed our friends." As soon as the power in the Union began to surrender, and it started: the Baltics, Baku, Karabakh, Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Chechnya, etc.
  7. Jack122
    Jack122 5 October 2013 08: 00 New
    +4
    The author is a moral u * od, the article made me angry. There is nationalism in any society, the feeling is completely natural and there is nothing terrible in it, because it is absolutely passive and does not bear aggression until problems arise. Do you want to get rid of nationalism? Solve the problems of migration, demography and the like and be surprised that "nationalism will evaporate by itself", changing your face to a friendlier and more calm one. You will not eradicate manifestations of nationalism from a dying people who have lost their pride. It's like robbing your body of your immune system. Another thing is that if the people do not return a sense of pride and self-esteem, do not give them what they require, then nationalism takes on more and more radical forms and develops into Nazism.
  8. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 5 October 2013 08: 02 New
    +1
    Autor where, let me ask, well, what After the fight in Kapotnya, when the so-called fighters with illegal migration attacked a hostel with knives and smoke bombs -so they did it right, because in this hostel the black terror was organized against the Russians; Believe me, I’m not an ardent NATIONALIST, but SOMETIMES (and the worst thing!) more and more often to me nat. movement for the soul ... recourse
    In 1985 on Krasnaya Gorka (naval reception-transmission) -WEEK! with Georgians, Ossetians, Chechens, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, etc. .... vodka, Vermouth, Agdam, I drank Chachu, and WERE BROTHERS ... request
  9. Grbear
    Grbear 5 October 2013 08: 06 New
    12
    A Michurinist with venereal slopes, raising his hands to someone unknown, cried out: "Give us ... well, this, how is it ...".

    For me, the color of the face-face does not matter, as long as it does not disturb the order in my house. Will violate - the color will be the same - ...
    1. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 5 October 2013 09: 19 New
      +1
      Correctly said!
    2. grafrozow
      grafrozow 5 October 2013 16: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: GrBear
      For me, the color of the face-face does not matter, as long as it does not disturb the order in my house. Will break - the color will be the same -
      Mikhail Yuryevich, guess, is the order disturbed in this house? laughing
  10. pinecone
    pinecone 5 October 2013 08: 12 New
    +8
    And all this nonsense is written in conditions when the word "Russian" itself is deliberately withdrawn from circulation, that is, it is banned. Malicious article.
  11. major071
    major071 5 October 2013 08: 24 New
    +8
    The idea of ​​nationalism is implanted artificially. And this is being done to destabilize the political situation in the country. Ideas are pushed with money by foreign "missionaries". There will be no money injections, and our "home-grown agitators" of ethnic hatred will subside themselves.
    1. washi
      washi 5 October 2013 11: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: major071
      The idea of ​​nationalism is implanted artificially. And this is being done to destabilize the political situation in the country. Ideas are pushed with money by foreign "missionaries". There will be no money injections, and our "home-grown agitators" of ethnic hatred will subside themselves.

      I would like to add. It is not Islam that is dangerous, which, for some reason, has become feared, but radical trends that have nothing to do with it, except for general words. Much more dangerous is the massive inculcation of the values ​​of radical Christianity - Protestantism with its "values", which has been going on constantly since the late 80s. You can see where this leads on the example of the United States and Britain, where the majority are Protestants.
      You will find the difference between the ideologies of Orthodoxy and Protestantism yourself.
      By the way, some publications already write about Protestantism as the third branch of the Christian religion. This is the same as Wahhabism called the branch of Islam.
  12. Essenger
    Essenger 5 October 2013 08: 55 New
    +5
    Judging by the minuses, their fans are sitting here))) No offense
  13. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 5 October 2013 09: 00 New
    +9
    Always mistrust such articles - THE AUTHOR EXPRESSLY OVERLOADS.
    Now it’s time to talk about the quiet genocide of the Russian population.
  14. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 5 October 2013 09: 04 New
    +4
    the downward trend of the Russian population is approximately the following — if nothing is done.
    1. Essenger
      Essenger 5 October 2013 09: 07 New
      +5
      So do something, especially at night with your wife)))
      1. Lech from ZATULINKI
        Lech from ZATULINKI 5 October 2013 09: 22 New
        +7
        Already done this 8 years ago, now a small miracle of nature is growing. smile

        For which I will fight against any abrek or jihadist Islamist DEATH. am
        1. Essenger
          Essenger 5 October 2013 09: 34 New
          15
          Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
          Already done this 8 years ago, now a small miracle of nature is growing.


          May God give you health! And why only in units. number? Let's try at least 2 more times))) Given the demo. situation in the Russian Federation.
          1. Dober
            Dober 5 October 2013 16: 20 New
            +6
            Quote: Essenger
            Let's try at least 2 more times))) Given the demo. situation in the Russian Federation.

            Like in the picture.
            Pay attention to the name of the breed. In the sense that the SHEPHERD ...
            Thunderstorm of jackals and rams.
            1. mark7
              mark7 5 October 2013 18: 53 New
              +4
              Quote: Dober
              Like in the picture

              Cool photo I love this breed very much. You give the revival of the nation men!
            2. Day 11
              Day 11 5 October 2013 19: 14 New
              +5
              And I'm talking about the same thing, old man! good
            3. Essenger
              Essenger 6 October 2013 11: 06 New
              +3
              Quote: Dober
              Thunderstorm of jackals and rams.


              Rams? Why didn’t they please them ?! Oh wretched rams.
  15. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 5 October 2013 09: 14 New
    17
    эthat was nationalism in Chechnya at the beginning of the 90s (this is only a fraction of the testimony) and there are thousands of them, and there are still those Russians who will never tell how they cut it, hung it, shot it, raped it - I WOULD RECOMMEND THE AUTHOR to shut up the above article and not tell us about nationalism.

    Let’s refresh some memories ...

    "...AND. Kochedykova, lived in the city of Grozny:

    “I left Grozny in February 1993 due to constant threats by armed Chechens and non-payment of pensions and wages. She threw an apartment with all the furniture, two cars, a cooperative garage and drove out with her husband.

    In February 1993, Chechens killed my neighbor, born in 1966, on the street. Her head was pierced, her ribs were broken, she was raped.

    War veteran Elena Ivanovna was also killed from an apartment nearby.

    In 1993, it became impossible to live there; they were killing around. Cars were blown up directly with people. They began to dismiss the Russians for no reason. A man born in 1935 was killed in an apartment. Nine stab wounds were inflicted on him, his daughter was raped and killed right there in the kitchen. ”

    B. Efankin, lived in Grozny:

    “In May 1993, two Chechen guys armed with a machine gun and a gun attacked me in my garage and tried to take possession of my car, but could not, because she was under repair. They shot me above my head.

    In the fall of 1993, a group of armed Chechens brutally killed my friend Bolgarsky, who refused to voluntarily give up his Volga car. Such cases were widespread. For this reason, I left Grozny. ”

    D. Gakypyany, lived in the city of Grozny:

    "In November 1994, Chechen neighbors threatened to kill with a pistol, and then drove them out of the apartment and settled in it themselves."

    P. Kyskova, lived in Grozny:

    “On July 1, 1994, four teenagers of Chechen nationality broke my arm and raped me in the area of ​​the Krasny Molot plant when I returned home from work.”

    G. Tarasova, lived in Grozny:

    “On May 6, 1993, my husband went missing in Grozny. Tarasov A.F. I suppose that Chechens forcibly took him to the mountains to work, because he is a welder. ”

    H. Trofimova, lived in Grozny:

    “In September 1994, Chechens broke into my sister’s apartment, Vishnyakova O. H., raped her in front of the children, beat her son and took her 12-year-old daughter Lena with her. So she did not return. Since 1993, my son was repeatedly beaten and robbed by Chechens. ”

    M. Khrapova, lived in Gudermes:

    “In August 1992, our neighbor, Sargsyanf R.S., and his wife, Sargsyan Z. S., were tortured and burned alive.”

    V. Kobzarev, lived in the Grozny region:

    “On November 7, 1991, three Chechens with machine guns fired at my dacha, and by a miracle I survived.

    In September 1992, armed Chechens demanded to vacate the apartment and threw a grenade. And I, fearing for my life and the life of my relatives, was forced to leave Chechnya with my family. ”

    T. Alexandrova, lived in Grozny:

    “My daughter was returning home in the evening. Chechens dragged her into a car, beat her, cut her and raped her. We had to leave Grozny. ”

    and then ......................
    1. washi
      washi 5 October 2013 11: 23 New
      +5
      And who said that we forgot it? We remember the Caucasus and Central Asia and the Crimean Tatars and Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten.
    2. Avenger711
      Avenger711 5 October 2013 15: 17 New
      0
      Not nationalism, but Nazism based on banal banditry.
  16. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 5 October 2013 09: 17 New
    10
    The author at the end of the article talks about changing the gardener. So where can I get it? Is Belarusians will ask for help in the fight against weeds. laughing
    1. alone
      alone 5 October 2013 20: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      The author at the end of the article talks about changing the gardener. So where can I get it? Is Belarusians will ask for help in the fight against weeds.


      what Is there really no one to rule the country in a country with 143 million people?
      you must admit that we are all mortal. Have you ever wondered what will happen next?
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 20: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        The author at the end of the article talks about changing the gardener. So where can I get it? Is Belarusians will ask for help in the fight against weeds.


        what Is there really no one to rule the country in a country with 143 million people?
        you must admit that we are all mortal. Have you ever wondered what will happen next?

        It seems I wrote about this two months ago. You are right. Even if such a person is one in a million, it will not change anything anyway. After all, then there should be 143 people capable of running the country.
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 5 October 2013 21: 12 New
          0
          Anyone can, with a little preparation. Each of us
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 5 October 2013 21: 50 New
            +1
            Not everyone can rule the country, do not lie to yourself. Need an experienced person. Look for his comrades, he is here somewhere.
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 5 October 2013 22: 22 New
              0
              I just said in the words of Lenin :) The main desire is to help the country, and experience will appear, Stalin also did not have any experience, but the current "managers" have experience, only we are not better from this :)
              1. Arabist
                Arabist 5 October 2013 22: 24 New
                0
                Yes, Stalin just had experience, he was the head of the nationality committee.
            2. SPACE
              SPACE 6 October 2013 00: 40 New
              0
              Quote: Arabist
              Need an experienced person. Look for his comrades, he is here somewhere.

              Yes, here I am laughing I would put things in order, et yeah, and it won't be difficult, but not for you! And I would have acted almost like Putin ... There is such an ancient game of "spillikins" called, who understands its deep meaning is already a ready candidate for rulers.
          2. GREAT RUSSIA
            GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 21: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: New Russia
            Anyone can, with a little preparation. Each of us

            Dear Kenneth Chachran. The point is to become a president who, like Stalin, made RUSSIA great. You need to have not only preparation, but also how to say the will of ALLAH, because these people are elected from ALLAH. Those people are able to return RUSSIA to greatness. I myself would I wanted to serve Motherland at least at the political level. But allah needs the will of ALLAH. It’s not for me to decide whether I will become a politician or not. Of course, a person also decides his fate, but it all depends on GOD.
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 5 October 2013 22: 21 New
              +1
              Respected :) For the future :) "But all this requires the will of ALLAH. It's not for me to decide whether I become a politician or not. Of course, a person also decides his fate, but everything depends on GOD." No offense to you, but religion makes a slave out of a person, the leader can become the one who discards all these rules and laws and breaks the system :) Build a new one :)
              1. Arabist
                Arabist 5 October 2013 22: 23 New
                +1
                To build a new one you need to destroy the old to the ground. Will the price of the question be commensurate with life?
                1. New Russia
                  New Russia 5 October 2013 22: 33 New
                  0
                  It depends on what is considered a loss. Formally, tens and hundreds of thousands of suicides, missing, and crime victims die due to a combination of circumstances. But only those who do not understand how the world works this way think. The system kills and robs people, deprives them of basic rights. Every day, new victims of the system. Destroy the old system ... It is already destroyed in the information field and in the eyes of people. No one believes in this system.
                  1. Arabist
                    Arabist 5 October 2013 22: 37 New
                    +1
                    Does your deprivation of basic rights not resemble a screech from Washington? After that (if the country is not as strong as Russia), human rights arrive on bayonets, missiles and bombs. Life does not get better from this (Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia).
                    1. New Russia
                      New Russia 5 October 2013 22: 45 New
                      0
                      For us, the word "rights" has different meanings. "Rights" is not liberal democracy, it is an understanding of oneself as a free person, for this it is enough for the authorities to do what the people want, and not some vague incomprehensible reforms and laws that do not depend on people. By the way, the WTO rules were not translated into Russian, even during the accession there. An authoritarian regime acting by the wishes of the people can ensure rights and freedoms. The current "democracy", where laws are passed against the opinion of the majority, does not provide rights and freedoms, including in the West
                      1. Arabist
                        Arabist 5 October 2013 22: 51 New
                        +1
                        It seems to be right to write, but doubts about your true intentions still tear me apart. I see criminals almost everywhere, do not worry about this professional deformation. I will continue to observe. I hope I'm wrong about you. By the way, where did FIRE go?
                      2. New Russia
                        New Russia 5 October 2013 22: 54 New
                        +1
                        You are torn apart by doubts because you are in an information field imposed by the system, where there is only Navalny and Putin :) We must create our own field and impose it on the authorities and society :) I don’t know, I haven’t seen it here for a long time :)
                      3. Arabist
                        Arabist 5 October 2013 22: 55 New
                        0
                        What can you do, working in the system is an element of clanism.
                      4. GREAT RUSSIA
                        GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 23: 14 New
                        +1
                        Dear Kenneth Chachran and Andrey. I apologize for interfering in your discussion. I think you know very well that politics is a dirty business. And no matter how strong the leader, he will have to go head over heels in dirt. But honestly, few politicians went to heaven (but no one checked). Stalin had to sign decrees on the execution of millions of people in order to put things in order. And now the situation is 100 times worse. So whoever becomes a strong leader will have a hard time. So you have to ask: Is the person ready to take on such a burden? Not everyone is capable of such.
                      5. Arabist
                        Arabist 5 October 2013 23: 25 New
                        +2
                        I totally agree with you.
      2. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 23: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: New Russia
        Respected :) For the future :) "But all this requires the will of ALLAH. It's not for me to decide whether I become a politician or not. Of course, a person also decides his fate, but everything depends on GOD." No offense to you, but religion makes a slave out of a person, the leader can become the one who discards all these rules and laws and breaks the system :) Build a new one :)

        I sincerely apologize. This will not happen again Dear.
        1. chehywed
          chehywed 14 October 2013 20: 57 New
          0
          Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
          I sincerely apologize. This will not happen again Dear.

          Ibrahim, as a cultured person, you can certainly apologize, but I want to draw your attention to the fact that Kenneth the name is purely masculine.
      3. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 5 October 2013 23: 03 New
        +1
        Well, you know, religion also makes politics a man. Personally, I’m not so religious. In the sense that I don’t read a prayer. But still I think if I became a politician (and I want to become one and am already making plans), I still would not become an atheist .
        1. alone
          alone 5 October 2013 23: 50 New
          +1
          any religion and politics are incompatible things. To begin with, politicians are all liars. If a politician is not a liar, then he is no longer a politician. and religion (all religions) to lie is a great sin.))
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 5 October 2013 23: 57 New
            0
            As a politician, by definition I cannot be a liar. Silvio Berlusconi.
          2. GREAT RUSSIA
            GREAT RUSSIA 6 October 2013 09: 27 New
            0
            Quote: lonely
            any religion and politics are incompatible things. To begin with, politicians are all liars. If a politician is not a liar, then he is no longer a politician. and religion (all religions) to lie is a great sin.))

            And you know, Omar, you opened my eyes.
  • SPACE
    SPACE 6 October 2013 00: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    The author at the end of the article talks about changing the gardener

    People, believing that the new ruler will turn out to be better, willingly rebel against the old, but soon they are convinced by experience that they were deceived, because the new ruler always turns out to be worse than the old. Machiavelli.
  • Troy
    Troy 5 October 2013 09: 22 New
    10
    Big and fat minus the author! After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russians were destroyed, driven out, and humiliated in all the former republics, especially in the Caucasus and Central Asia. We were invaders. These dives separated for the construction of their great Tajiks, and so on. and there was no place for us there. And when they crap at home, they climbed to us to earn money. But this is still half the trouble. But these rights are also shaking rights, and in fact they are reaping what they sowed in 90 years, when the Russians were slaughtered. And the author is full .......!
    1. Shuriken
      Shuriken 5 October 2013 11: 08 New
      +7
      And what else to expect from a person with the name ZILBELTRUD?
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 5 October 2013 14: 45 New
        +1
        It's not about the name of "black sheep" everywhere.
        1. Airman
          Airman 5 October 2013 18: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: RUSS
          It's not about the name of "black sheep" everywhere.

          And in the surname, too, among them there are more black sheep.
  • vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 5 October 2013 09: 23 New
    +9
    Our nationalism is the reaction of the people to the inaction of the authorities and the security forces. If our authorities turn a blind eye to the atrocities of "guests" who are not far from the predators, then the people themselves begin to act. Russians have always been benevolent and patient with guests and stood up for the weak, and nationalism in a fascist or British style is not inherent in the Russians, but patience runs out if the guest becomes a predator.
  • antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 5 October 2013 09: 34 New
    +8
    The Nationalism.org information is supplemented by a fragment of the appeal of the Russian section of the IHR: "The most authoritative Webster dictionary (US edition, 1987), which is used in all countries of the world without exception, including Russia, defines the concept of" nationalism "as follows:
    1. Devotion to your people.
    2. Protection of national unity or independence.
    Japanese Encyclopedia:
    Nationalism is the universal commitment and loyalty of one’s nation.
    British Encyclopedia:
    Nationalism is loyalty and commitment to a nation or country, when national interests are placed above personal or group interests.
    The American Political Dictionary, which by 1993 had withstood 9 (!) Publications:
    Nationalism is identified with social and psychological forces that arose under the influence of unique cultural, historical factors, in order to ensure unity, inspiration among a given people by cultivating a sense of common belonging to these values. Nationalism unites people who share common cultural, linguistic, racial, historical or geographical traits or experiences and who ensure loyalty to this political community. "

    Nationalism is not a sign of the disease of society, it is a kind of nettle, the same part of the garden as an apple tree or aster; it’s another matter that if you trample everything in the garden that is somehow cultural, complex and requiring care, a weed will reign in it, and then it’s too late to fight it.

    Does this mean Russian on its native Earth, poured with blood and then its ancestors, weed, and a visiting Asian or Caucasian cultivated apple tree?
    And Comrade Bykov has not sat on a stake for a long time? Or forgot how bulls hiss in his eyes?
    1. Troy
      Troy 5 October 2013 09: 37 New
      +6
      The author needs to go to Tajikistan for permanent residence, they will quickly explain everything to him there. I am writing the names with a small letter in connection with my exceptional disrespect.
  • Proud.
    Proud. 5 October 2013 09: 54 New
    +8
    It’s not necessary to save from Nationalism. A healthy Nationalism needs to be saved. For some reason (although not completely understandable), in all Russian-language dictionaries and encyclopedias, from Russian-language compilers, the term definition of NATIONALISM is sharply negative. Foreign historians and compilers, in most of them are interpreted positively. Webster's dictionary (a very authoritative dictionary used in all countries of the world, including Russia), interprets as follows: 1. Devotion to your people. 2. Defending national unity or independence. The Japanese Encyclopedia: Nationalism is the universal commitment and loyalty of one’s nation. British: Nationalism is fidelity and commitment to a nation or country when national interests are put above personal or group interests. In our country, NATIONALISM is an absolute evil , however, not all, but only the one with the prefix RUSSIAN.
  • Bosk
    Bosk 5 October 2013 10: 19 New
    +3
    How to save from nationalism? ... how-how, it’s very easy to lead and direct in the right direction. Because, according to the experience of Germany, we know that if the national feelings of the people are slaughtered, rubbed and humiliated, then this can be very ugly drawn. And secondly ... Nationalism (French nationalisme) is an ideology and a policy direction, the fundamental principle of which is the thesis of the value of a nation as the highest form of social unity and its primacy in the state-forming process ... .
    1. washi
      washi 5 October 2013 11: 35 New
      -2
      Quote: Bosk
      How to save from nationalism? ... how-how, it’s very easy to lead and direct in the right direction. Because, according to the experience of Germany, we know that if the national feelings of the people are slaughtered, rubbed and humiliated, then this can be very ugly drawn. And secondly ... Nationalism (French nationalisme) is an ideology and a policy direction, the fundamental principle of which is the thesis of the value of a nation as the highest form of social unity and its primacy in the state-forming process ... .

      There is one problem. There is no formulation of the concept RUSSIAN. And this is not a nationality. It is rather a worldview concept, rather it is a nation. Anyone by nationality who accepts our traditional values ​​can be Russian. I can consider Russian Chinese or German, but, at the moment, I don’t think many with Slavic faces are Russian because they behave in accordance with a different culture of behavior, psychology. This, unfortunately, applies to some representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church.
      1. Bosk
        Bosk 5 October 2013 12: 56 New
        +4
        Maybe the answer is in the very word RUSSIAN ..., not German, Cambodian, Honduran, namely RUSSIAN-KIY! Note even in the west, so far, pro-Russians (regardless of nationality) are called not like anything ... namely RUSSIAN ... maybe here you need to look for an answer?
  • Stepnogorets
    Stepnogorets 5 October 2013 11: 39 New
    +1
    The situation with migrants is clear (organized crime, violations, etc.) it is difficult to deal with this, but it is possible! The question is about "nationalism as a threat to the integrity of the Russian state"! This generation was raised not without the help of the media, from both sides, i.e. with RUSSIAN and NERUSSKA (after all, there are a lot of them and they are the same citizens of the Russian Federation as RUSSIANS) in mutual hatred of each other, they may still live in THIS RUSSIA (in the sense of its integrity). But the next generation is probably not (God forbid, of course), so by 2040-2050, when the current schoolchildren (again RUSSIAN and NERUS) will be 30-40 years old, the map of Russia will be significantly truncated. I'm afraid by those years Caucasian, Tatar, etc. the nationalities will have a reason to announce their withdrawal from Russia. We must now, with the help of the same media, change the mood in the heads of today's still schoolchildren (both RUSSIAN and NERUS)! The seeds of hatred in the heads (RUSSIAN and NERUSIAN) have already been sown with the help of the media.
  • georg737577
    georg737577 5 October 2013 11: 46 New
    +5
    Afraid of the Bulls for their own face. After all, we all know how to save Russia - ....
  • kripto
    kripto 5 October 2013 11: 57 New
    +3
    Since when have "such authors" been allowed on the portal I respect, or a negative reaction is also a kind of PR. The definition "moral" in relation to Mr. Bykov is still the softest definition. Sorry, but only one comparison with the oldest profession suggests itself.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 5 October 2013 13: 07 New
    +1
    D. Bykov. How to save Russia from nationalism
    It is high time to save Russia about d.bykov and others like him ...
  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 5 October 2013 13: 20 New
    +1
    The title of the article is wrong, it should have been called "How to Save Russia from the Russians"
  • New Russia
    New Russia 5 October 2013 13: 20 New
    +6
    Russophobe Bykov from the swamp area supports Putin's policy on the genocide of indigenous population. Serdyukov and Skrynnik support Putin's anti-corruption policy. But what Putin's confidant Bagirov says

    Putintsy, you notice that in order to support this bastard you have to defend the most vile thing that is happening in Russia? Because Putin is the most vile
    1. Armata
      Armata 5 October 2013 14: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: New Russia
      Russophobe Bulls
      That is what lumps are. I have never been a nationalist, but I would have nailed such rams just like Tesak. Let them buy diapers, the rebellion will be primarily against them, and not against the Slavs, Tatars, Bashkirs, Azerbaijanis who have always lived in peace.
    2. Altona
      Altona 5 October 2013 14: 49 New
      +5
      It directly reminded me of my service in Baku ... Is this a shortcoming-writer? And this sanctuary considers itself a modern man, spewing medieval definitions of giaurs and the faithful? Ahaha ... The Karabakh donkey is donkey urine instead of blood, and dung instead of brain ... Let me put 140 bani, I would troll this Caucasian, his Caspian sand trampled the boots of the British, Turks and Russians, and his brothers, he, not all Azerbaijanis, I mean, didn’t even have houses ... How is it? laughing
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      2. alone
        alone 5 October 2013 20: 33 New
        +3
        Bagirov is the same Azerbaijanian as I am an alien))) he only has the surname Azerbaijani. An ordinary pig this Bagirov.
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 5 October 2013 21: 13 New
          +2
          Nationality "pig" is a discovery :)
          1. alone
            alone 5 October 2013 21: 22 New
            +3
            Quote: New Russia
            Nationality "pig" is a discovery :)


            pigs have no nationality. he is a pig in africa pig
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 5 October 2013 21: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: lonely
          his only surname is Azerbaijani. This pig is Bagir.

          here is his interview.
          Clarify the question - do you consider yourself an Azerbaijani?
          - Of course. My father was Azerbaijani, and I feel it myself. But it should be remembered that in Azerbaijan I was only three times in my life, and my mother is Russian, therefore, of course, I do not presume to consider myself to be a XNUMX% full-fledged Azerbaijani. I am a bearer of two great cultures at once - Slavic and Islamic.
          - And is it difficult to carry these two cultures?
          - Sometimes it’s not easy. Sometimes they quite sensitively collide with each other. But I'm already used to it.
          Are you still a confidant of Putin?
          - Yes, after the election, the institution of proxies was not abolished. On the contrary, Putin is trying to interact with us - not always personally, but often through his administration. Because the president’s proxies are a slice of the whole of Russian society, through which the president better understands what is happening directly in the people.
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 5 October 2013 21: 30 New
            +2
            Hello Vurgun! I have a friend (I’m going to visit Baku) who is half Russian and half Azerbaijani. Dad (Russian officer) served in Baku, met with an Azerbaijani girl (70s). As a result, my friend came together pulled the strap of the military (without names and surnames, Internet, ...!)
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 5 October 2013 23: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: Den 11
              Wow! Vurgun!



              GOOD EVENING OF THE EARTH !!! ALWAYS GLAD TO GUESTS! IF YOU WRAP TO GYANJA! ALWAYS GLAD TO GUESTS TO A FRIEND !!!!!! drinks
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 5 October 2013 23: 47 New
                +3
                Hello, Hello, Earth!
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 5 October 2013 14: 54 New
      +3
      Bagirov is a sick man, but why and where he came from and who needs it, is a question.
    4. Altona
      Altona 5 October 2013 15: 21 New
      +3
      By the way, these "writers" begin their writings on the forums like this: "I gave you, Russians ... Here I am sitting now, playing with a bastard ..." Well, then there are well-known primitive pearls ... I will not quote ... he sits like a monkey, masturbates all day, heals his sperm toxicosis ... laughing laughing
    5. Altona
      Altona 5 October 2013 16: 01 New
      +3
      http://lurkmore.to/%C1%E0%E3%E8%F0%EE%E2
      ---------------------
      People have already explored this Turkmen-Azerbaijani phenomenon ...)))
  • New Russia
    New Russia 5 October 2013 13: 25 New
    +5
    As for nationalism, everyone who considers this to be something bad in a few years will be on the waiting list for Russia :) For all the indigenous peoples who want to live in peace, foreign barbarians and scum from Chechnya should kick in the ass or work for free at construction sites for the right to be released home. For some reason, Russians live normally in Kahakhstan, despite the normal nat. politics, although it’s not smooth
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 5 October 2013 21: 53 New
      +3
      When will you start writing without errors? Manage the country is not to write on the forum, any mistake can be expensive.
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 5 October 2013 22: 23 New
        +1
        Where are the mistakes? :) I specially wrote my homeland with a little
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 5 October 2013 22: 30 New
          +1
          Viselitsa, despite.
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 5 October 2013 22: 38 New
            0
            Ummm :) Thank you
    2. alone
      alone 6 October 2013 00: 02 New
      +1
      Russians live normally not only in Kazakhstan))
  • chushoj
    chushoj 5 October 2013 14: 23 New
    -1
    It is painful to watch when Jews change their surnames, hang crosses on themselves, and try to influence the people in order to get closer to power as a saint. After they eat this power. Their main path is destruction and not creation. It is painful to watch when Jews try to repeat the words of GDP, but do not understand the meaning of these words.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 5 October 2013 14: 32 New
      0
      Only unlike GDP, what happens to migrants and nat. question, "merit" not of Jews, but GDP
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 5 October 2013 14: 25 New
    +1
    At the same time, it is not known who is ours, because it is also impossible to think about national identity. You can get into extremists or incendiaries.

    In my opinion, it accurately characterizes the national policy of the current government in relation to the Russians. The state is multinational, on the one hand it requires a certain tact on the part of the Russians, on the other we want our national interests to be respected. In this situation, representatives of the law are required to strictly abide by the letter of the law in relation to all participants in the process. But we have a bias, a toughening in relation to the Russians, sometimes even far-fetched. After this, the appearance of the extreme-minded in the order of things, and again everything in a circle. There is no point in talking about the article, even the word Russian is not used in it (afraid to foment laughing ). Here you really think "save Russia".
    1. Altona
      Altona 5 October 2013 15: 06 New
      +4
      Yes, our leadership has one policy - "Come on, Russia!" ... Come on, we are not satisfied, we are insatiable ... That's the whole essence of their policy ... No respect for the people on which they parasitize, this infuriates people ... And there is no nationalism here ... It's all far-fetched ... I, for example, am not ethnically Russian at all, I always talk about it, but I am Russian-speaking, I graduated from a Russian school ... Mentally I am Russian ... And without Russian small and just small there will be no nations ...
  • DimYang
    DimYang 5 October 2013 14: 29 New
    +2
    The Jew seems to be deliberately running into it. I think the time is not far off when people like Bykov will be hung on the street. And the children of the mountains and other pseudo-people will be driven into the reservation. By the way, blacks in Nazi Germany were kept in zoos. I wonder why the half-Jew Hitler stopped it. Well, to hell with him. I deliberately do not write about who will do these just things in Russia. I think it’s clear. The people, like a guard in one old movie, TIRED TO WAIT.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 5 October 2013 15: 32 New
      +3
      But why did Hitler become a semi-Jew? He is German by mother, and Austrian by father.
  • Altona
    Altona 5 October 2013 14: 40 New
    +2
    They ruined the country, made a mess under the slogan "More freedom!", They said that the invisible hand of the market and democracy will put everything in its place ... Something is not put ... But freedom is for everyone, not only for liberals. ..And most importantly, he described everything, said that he was not komilfo and referred to the USSR, they say it was better ... Then everyone went out of their way, what is the USSR measuring everything in comparison with 1913? Now they themselves compare everything with 1990 ... Hypocrites - one word ...
  • RUSS
    RUSS 5 October 2013 14: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: Albert1988
    Quote: RUSS
    For me personally, the concept of nationalism embraces a more voluminous definition.

    I dare to correct you a little bit - what you described is patriotism, normal healthy patriotism, and nationalism in its original definition is a phenomenon of primitive separation of people by origin, and such a multinational country like ours is harmful, unless, of course, we bring together all the indigenous people of our country countries into a single supernation, then yes - nationalism in small doses will even be useful.
    As for the respected .. oh, forgive the disrespectful author of this article, then, forgive not the liberals, who have always preached fooling and lack of culture, to teach us, without even understanding the essence of the problem that led to "Kapotnya", however ...

    The answer is simpler, for me my nation is Russian, BUT not only by ethnic origin but also by identifying with it, Russian is in my soul and spirit. That is, simply put, a Mordvin or Yakut speaking Russian, living in Russia, who considers himself a patriot of the country these people are also Russian to me and more Russian than many by origin.
  • DimYang
    DimYang 5 October 2013 15: 02 New
    +4
    Quote: dimyan
    The people, like a guard in one old movie, TIRED TO WAIT.

    I want to clarify a bit. By people I mean Russians and other peoples who live in peace with each other in Russia for many centuries. Without claiming to be the leader in the Russian state, let alone reiterating their exclusivity, those who, as they say in the people do not crawl into someone else’s monastery with their own charter, do not commit crimes against the indigenous population, do not creep into non-territory, like creeping gangrene well, etc. Other behavior from these simple rules is required to isolate forcibly. There is no other way out, let them learn to be human.
  • Avenger711
    Avenger711 5 October 2013 15: 19 New
    0
    "Our nationalism will bring us victory!"
    (c) C&C Generals.
  • New Russia
    New Russia 5 October 2013 15: 29 New
    +4
    In Khanty-Mansiysk, two members of a gang rape in a cafe "Noah" were sentenced. We are talking about the Yurtayev brothers, the criminal case against which was set aside in a separate proceeding.

    “On the night of February 23-24, a gang rape was committed in the cafe“ Noi ”in Khanty-Mansiysk. Four men took part in it. Two of them - the Yurtayev brothers - fully admitted their guilt. Therefore, their criminal case was referred to court earlier. The court sentenced the defendants to five years of imprisonment on probation, and also imposed a fine of 15 thousand rubles on them, ”said Elena Sherman, deputy head of the Investigative Department of the IC RF in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area.

    Recall yesterday that it became known that the investigation of the second criminal case against two other participants in gang rape was also completed and transferred to court. The accused are the director of the cafe "Noah" Vidadi Narimanov and Sultan Israilov. Investigators explain that Narimanov, after one of the visitors was raped in his office, took her friend, the second victim, to his home and also raped her.

    We will not forget anything
  • Stepnogorets
    Stepnogorets 5 October 2013 15: 32 New
    +1
    The salt is that in Russia they beat with bats without asking where the clogged by birth comes from! And the metro is blown up without thinking about whether there are their fellow tribesmen!
  • slacker
    slacker 5 October 2013 15: 54 New
    0
    And who is this bull?
  • RUSS
    RUSS 5 October 2013 16: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: Loafer
    And who is this bull?


    Sheep.E.B.
  • lexe
    lexe 5 October 2013 16: 27 New
    +3
    read the article, comments ...
    Russian people in Russia weed?
    And someone puts the advantages of this article? Read the comments, people already understood what was going on. It is encouraging that there are a lot of weeds (by the bull) on the planet.
    This is the Germans and the French. Yes, and a resident of Texas ... In the United States so generally a large% of Germans.This is where it is true and not false cosmopolitanism.

    A person who loves his people will always find understanding from another person with similar views.
    What are you hoping gentlemen for?to the fact that exterminate the most powerful peoples of the planet? which I notice laid the foundation for progress on earth.
    If we have a war in Russia ... not only Russians will fight in a single formation -and all the sound powers of the old and new world!who will understand that in Russia the issue of fate and their peoples will be decided.
    And Russia will be able to organize these forces and take on the already familiar role ...- in the fight against yet another world evil, false cosmopolitanism for the sake of the victory of true national cosmopolitanism.
    So the article is bold minus ponimash laughing
    However, Bykov’s weed article helps the true apple tree (Russian people) get stronger. I look forward to the next pearl from Bykov - the apple tree has come to give the fruit and treat everyone who is hungry.
  • Observer
    Observer 5 October 2013 16: 48 New
    +2
    I wonder why in Japan the "purity" of the nation is observed? Unlike the USA. But this is a rhetorical question. And the problem of nationalism will not exist with a competent state policy. Entering a visa regime. Addressing the problem of indigenous unemployment, both explicit and latent. Enactment of laws providing for stricter penalties for migrant workers for the same offenses in comparison with the indigenous nationality. So far, everything is strictly the opposite. National diasporas level the requirements of Russian laws for "their own".
  • Zhenya
    Zhenya 5 October 2013 17: 33 New
    11
    I am for the expulsion of emigrants by force, the government spits, people are tired. Nationalism in the country can not be stopped!
    I’m tired of hearing the accusation, if he is a Russian nationalist, if he’s a fucking emigrant, he’s a bully, I’m tired of such language, enough to humiliate the Russians, enough to destroy my nation.
    1. I am
      I am 5 October 2013 18: 33 New
      +2
      I am Russian, and I support.
  • DimYang
    DimYang 5 October 2013 18: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: Den 11
    But why did Hitler become a semi-Jew? He is German by mother, and Austrian by father.

    Learn the materiel. For a long time there are facts about the Jewish origin of Hitler. In addition, anthropology does not lie. Yes, and genetics does not sleep.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 5 October 2013 19: 18 New
      +2
      Teach yourself. The historian ...! Can you prove it (find this blood in it)? Prove it, or go for a balabola
    2. Day 11
      Day 11 5 October 2013 19: 49 New
      +1
      None of the people on planet Earth (which in the solar system) could prove (and find) its Jewish roots! And this one could! All world historians with the same names argue hoarsely proving each their own. And this one could! Bravo! We are waiting for proof! Anthropologist x-ev!
    3. Day 11
      Day 11 5 October 2013 19: 57 New
      +1
      At least read it for a start.
      1. DimYang
        DimYang 6 October 2013 16: 32 New
        -1
        I have already said many times that it is easier to find what you want than what you don’t want. And the fact that Hitler is a Jew is written on his face, the purest Ashkenazi. And the British and American Jews would not sponsor him like that, if it were otherwise. (a Jew distributes money to the goy, when it would have happened.). There is a declassified film made for the highest elite of the USSR, filmed in the State Security Council of the USSR, Find and See. And not only him. Books by Henecke Kardel "Adolf Hitler is the founder of Israel", Dietrich Bronder "Before Hitler Came". Also, for other interested members of the forum on youtube, type "Jews in service in the Third Reich" - only facts. And not rude, otherwise I can find and give in the face. Lover of Jews hu-v!
  • SolomonSS
    SolomonSS 5 October 2013 21: 53 New
    +5
    It is necessary to educate in Russians both nationalism and love for such a concept as: "I am Russian".
    In our country there are some double standards in terms of nationalities, if a Russian "offends" a Caucasian, Kazakh and the like, then this is inciting ethnic hatred. And if on the contrary, then everything is normal, for example: this summer Pugachev. Not people, there would be no publicity, and quietly everything is on the brakes.
  • SPACE
    SPACE 6 October 2013 00: 08 New
    +2
    If you put another hamster in a cage with a hamster, then there will already be two hamsters in the cages. But if you put a viper in a cage with a hamster, then if the hamster wants to survive, he will also have to become a viper. To live with wolves, howl like wolves. In the forest, it is better to be a wolf than a hare. Here is such an evolution. Judging by the comments, the experiment was a success, the nation is growing stronger.
  • Privat
    Privat 6 October 2013 04: 59 New
    +2
    It’s just that the care with which representatives of liberal Jewry such as D. Bykov or N. Svanidze are trying to shield Russians from cave nationalism is breaking through with a tear of tenderness. Their efforts cannot but arouse feelings of deep gratitude and sincere desire to repay good for good. Let us also call on the God-chosen people of Israel to abandon the not-so-tolerant policy towards their Arab neighbors. After all, that the Jews, that the Arabs, are from their historical roots half-blood brothers. So let the borders open for everyone who wants to come, the IDF will be dissolved, the Mossad will be covered, the representatives of Hamaz and Hezbollah will be elected to the Knesset, and Ahmadinejad will be awarded the title of honorary citizen. You look, and there will come complete national harmony and grace.
    And hehre to look at each other through sights. Good friends! :)))
  • Yuriy_K
    Yuriy_K 6 October 2013 07: 15 New
    -3
    Want to save the prison of nations, the Horde Empire? Do you want to continue to drive more than 150 peoples and cultures into one hostel barracks and force everyone to live according to a single charter? Do you want anything else?
    Your filthy prison is not so, so that way, but it will collapse anyway and people will be released from imperial slavery, they will build each of their cottages instead of a common barrack. It is then that there will be peace and respect between neighbors. And the source of conflict is the Bykov demagogues, who drive everyone to a communal apartment - in a communal apartment it cannot be otherwise. Her cultures are standing still, they are growing and have already grown out of communal diapers. Russia will have a new dynamic system in which each nation will live according to its own "truth", as it was approximately in pre-imperial Kievan Rus - http://gidepark.ru/community/1289/article/241529
    But Bykov, as a terry materialist, does not see ideological reality, in particular, what is developing now is not archaic nationalism, but culturalism - for the first time, culture becomes the subject of freedom as a system of relations based on a value system. People defend their value system from savages, from imperial anti-culture. This is a breakthrough, this is progress, and you cannot stop it
  • autonomus
    autonomus 6 October 2013 12: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Vasya
    There is one problem. There is no formulation of the concept RUSSIAN. And this is not a nationality. It is rather a concept of worldview
    I absolutely agree. There should be an idea bringing people together, the goal is common and common values. And this is IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT HIGH CULTURE and upbringing in society. We can do this, then be Russian civilization. And talking about a certain supremacy, a certain titular nation will not bring unity in a multinational country. Moreover, far-right and imperial slogans that only cause disgust.
  • Papania
    Papania 6 October 2013 17: 12 New
    +2
    I AM not Russian, but I agree with such "nationalism", and I support him ... I retired as a major, I am of the opinion "I came to the COUNTRY once", be so kind as to keep its traditions ... If you don't want this, go to your place and live there ..., there is nothing to poison the atmosphere here ...
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 6 October 2013 18: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: After the fight in Kapotnya, when the so-called fighters with illegal migration attacked the hostel
    But what should a simple citizen of Russia do if the government doesn’t lead with his ear to restore law? The arrogance of visitors surpasses. And the Russians should endure ???