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AK-15 - another modification of the Kalashnikov

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Definitive Arms and Krebs Custom jointly created, probably, one of the most beautiful AK modifications. The company Krebs this model was given the designation AK-15.




As a base for AK-15, the Russian “Saiga” was used under the 5,56-mm cartridge. At Definitive Arms, using the Kalashnikov machine gun platform, improved weapon. The weapon was equipped with a magazine receiver, allowing the use of standard magazines for the AR15 rifle. In addition, the AK-15 has a slide delay, which increases the speed of production for firing after the magazine has been replaced.

After the specialists of Definitive Arms conducted work on AK-15, they transferred it to Krebs Custom. Attention given to each element of the weapon. First of all, the old barrel was replaced with a new barrel with a length of 413 mm, equipped with a 4-x slot flame arrester developed by Krebs Custom.

4's slotted flame arrester


Handguard allows you to easily mount additional straps


Handguard fits very tightly with the receiver


The next highlight of the new modification was the installation of the forearm. In the new rifle, the forearm covers the weapon almost the entire length of the barrel. Gunsmiths from Krebs Custom believe that such a length will provide an opportunity to install more popular accessories and various equipment. The new handguard provides installation of attachments in a short time on three sides of the handguard (bottom, right and left). Above there is an integrated Picatinny rail for sighting equipment, although it does not sit low enough to use the popular red dot Aimpoint T-1 Micro sight.

It is also necessary to note the new convenient pistol grip.

The butt was also improved. Thanks to the mounting of the VLTOR butts guide on the rifle, most of the M4 style butts like the Malpul CTR mounted on this rifle can be mounted.

A serious improvement was subjected to the safety lever. The standard lever was replaced with a Krebs lever with a notch to hold the bolt in the rearmost position. This improvement gives you the opportunity to start firing with an open shutter and prevents an arbitrary shot.

The standard trigger mechanism was replaced with the Red Star trigger system.

In addition to all this, the rifle has a Cerakote coating. There are three color options: Magpul Flat Dark Earth, Magpul OD Green and Graphite Black.

The mass of such a tuned rifle equals kilogram 3,62. Length with folded butt is 838 mm, with fully extended - 921 mm.

While the rifle is just a prototype and its cost is unknown, however, apparently, consumers in the US will soon be able to buy it.




According to the materials of the sites http://www.thebangswitch.com/krebs-ak-15-the-sexy and http://www.guns.yfa1.ru
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  1. Zhenya
    Zhenya 4 October 2013 08: 06 New
    10
    A copyright, not? Did not hear?
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 4 October 2013 09: 09 New
      +7
      Quote: Marrying
      A copyright, not? Did not hear?


      copyrasty is a severe mental illness ...
    2. Aubert
      Aubert 4 October 2013 11: 34 New
      11
      What are you talking about?
      The technical patents for AK have long expired. In fact, AK can be produced by anyone.
      1. viktorR
        viktorR 4 October 2013 13: 15 New
        +9
        Ak - maybe Saigu - no. Although this is just tuning and everything, on the other hand judging by the stigma they take a saiga under an American .223
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 4 October 2013 13: 35 New
          +6
          Namely, they sell the tuned Saigu - without breaking anything, and the name - if someone did not notice - the K-bookoff is reversed - you won’t dig.
          Another thing is more interesting - where are our Lefties and other gunsmiths?
          1. vanaheym
            vanaheym 4 October 2013 14: 52 New
            14
            Quote: lelikas
            where are our lefties and other gunsmiths?

            Mainly under Art. 223 are sitting.
          2. Hauser
            Hauser 4 October 2013 21: 31 New
            +2
            Another thing is more interesting - where are our Lefties and other gunsmiths?
            What did you mean?! I get the impression that our weapons are made in the same way as confectioners make candies - they are so full that they can’t look at them. Well, our gunsmiths do not like their products, they do not like! Medium toggle picatinny slats - deep modernization! They were supposed to stand on arms about 25 years ago and without kicks from the MO and gun owners.
            1. Basarev
              Basarev 23 December 2013 20: 43 New
              +1
              I don’t like the Picatinny rail. The Swallow Tail is much more convenient.
              1. vanaheym
                vanaheym 23 December 2013 22: 05 New
                +4
                Dovetail is convenient only on AKMoids, on which any other mount becomes crutches. Yes, and there was a side bar because of the desire to combine a hedgehog and a hedgehog - to put some kind of optics where the traditional normal mount was not provided for in design. Personally, I do not think the side mount for a traditionally brick-weight sight is a good solution.
    3. T-130
      T-130 4 October 2013 20: 25 New
      0
      what rights? Ak is not patented and now everyone who wants to release it!
    4. RPG_
      RPG_ 7 October 2013 09: 32 New
      +1
      As you can understand, they buy Saigu and remake it into a rifle. So there is nothing illegal here.
  2. Strashila
    Strashila 4 October 2013 08: 07 New
    +4
    If the barrel is byak, and the cartridges are bullshit ... then appearance does not play any role. And now with it in the autumn slush in the field ... yes, up to the ears in Russian reality ... question ??? what lexicon the soldier will have when cleaning this machine.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 4 October 2013 09: 30 New
      +8
      Quote: Strashila
      what lexicon the soldier will have when cleaning this machine.

      What soldier are you talking about? Tuning Saigi for practical shooting, in general a toy for the masses. Only it is not clear what is left of Saigi except the box.
  3. rereture
    rereture 4 October 2013 08: 07 New
    10
    It's just saiga tuning)
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 4 October 2013 09: 11 New
      +6
      Quote: rereture
      It's just saiga tuning)


      This is a manic need to make M16 clones from everything on the market ...
      1. vanaheym
        vanaheym 4 October 2013 12: 39 New
        +7
        And where does the clone AR-15 from all that is available on the market?
        Do you think that such a Saiga, how it gets to the USA, looks better?
        1. bddrus
          bddrus 4 October 2013 12: 52 New
          +3
          Why not such a photo ?:

          or such:
          1. vanaheym
            vanaheym 4 October 2013 12: 57 New
            +2
            Because rifled saigas come to the United States in this form - some tricks in their weapons laws regarding the number of parts manufactured in America that must be imported, and in California and New York they are generally sold with an integral store to get around assault weapon ban.
        2. viktorR
          viktorR 4 October 2013 13: 17 New
          -4
          for a hunting rifle, it looks great, but what the Americans did is not just for hunting, but for post-shoots on banks.
          1. vanaheym
            vanaheym 4 October 2013 13: 46 New
            +5
            For some reason, it seems to me that the main buyers of this carbine are the IPSC arrows.
            There, just everything is imprisoned for this - a shutter lag, a fast adjustable trigger, the use of AR-like stores, the characteristic latch of the store.
            All this gives a rather serious gain in speed, while realizing the standard reliable gas system AK.
            1. viktorR
              viktorR 7 October 2013 12: 56 New
              0
              And the fact that it is ground under IPSC, well so I do not argue. But I don’t think that IPSC drivers are really rushed to buy it, so most likely for post-shootings. Although maybe I'm wrong.
              1. vanaheym
                vanaheym 7 October 2013 13: 40 New
                +1
                They didn’t break at all, since even the majority of Ukrainian IPSCshniki prefer to shoot from the AR-15, rather than from the AK.
  4. Atenon
    Atenon 4 October 2013 08: 22 New
    11
    There is a beauty for everyone, for me, so all these body kits and trims only disfigure Russian weapons.
    1. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 4 October 2013 10: 34 New
      +2
      Totally agree with you. There is no need to climb into the identity of Russian weapons.
  5. igor36
    igor36 4 October 2013 08: 26 New
    +3
    The original article is called: KREBS AK-15 - “THE SEXY” -sex Kalash not bad right? And in operation, try to dip it in the mud, in the forend a kilogram will pick up for sure. I do not see any super improvements. The usual design change.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 4 October 2013 08: 55 New
      +4
      That's really seks.x will be with him when you climb through the swamp laughing
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 4 October 2013 09: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: igor36
      I do not see any super improvements.

      It does not say that this is an improved Saiga, but an option for 5,56 rounds.
      Quote: igor36
      The usual design change.

      Replacing the trigger, a change of caliber is a "design change"?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 4 October 2013 11: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: Nayhas
        It does not say that this is an improved Saiga, but an option for 5,56 rounds.

        Actually, the Saigi version for 5,56 (223rem) is also available here.
      2. vanaheym
        vanaheym 4 October 2013 12: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: Nayhas
        Replacing the trigger, a change of caliber is a "design change"?

        And where does the replacement of the caliber come from - it originally goes to .223, and many Saigi USM fans change the standard SCM to the adjustable Red Star - it's better.
    3. Pharao7766
      Pharao7766 4 October 2013 09: 19 New
      -1
      Especially picking out dirt from the neck (store receiver) ... this is a real se-ks.
      Although - something worth paying attention to and think about implementation.
      ... such trifles as a pistol grip, bolt delay, and, of course, workmanship.
  6. air wolf
    air wolf 4 October 2013 08: 45 New
    11
    Cool, I have Saezhka-12, a reliable device, but heavy 4,5 kg equipped, I had to take a 20-caliber double-barrel for normal hunting. MP-301 (in Russian Izh-27). I haven’t been getting a saiga for two years already. These are the jokes with Saiga, i.e. it is really fucking not needed, very heavy, only for self-defense against "dzhigits", it surpasses the PKK in terms of fire density with buckshot). And over the years of service, I rushed about with AKM, I think it is a very heavy weapon, it is necessary to facilitate as much as possible. My opinion is that the AK age has passed, we have better options. And the old weapons must be sold to hunters and those wishing with a normal psyche, but not to the "dzhigits" they have this junk and so are full cellars.
  7. Aristocrat
    Aristocrat 4 October 2013 09: 03 New
    +3
    Quote: air wolf
    My opinion is that the AK age has passed, we have better options.
    There is always something better. Think about AEK? Soon to write off AK. All 20-3 and the beginning of the 21st centuries are proof of this.
  8. Veter
    Veter 4 October 2013 09: 06 New
    +3
    Definitive Arms and Krebs Custom have jointly created, incorrectly, one of the most beautiful modifications of AK.


    Beautiful AK-15 ????
    M-16, no more ...
  9. Nova
    Nova 4 October 2013 09: 44 New
    -1
    As for me - AK is generally NOT a beautiful weapon. Yes, probably the most reliable, but the most common. But my tongue doesn’t dare to call this “humpbacked” beautiful. The trouble is that the percentage of "beautifulness" of a weapon is almost always inversely proportional to its reliability.
  10. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 4 October 2013 09: 51 New
    +6
    In 4 photos, the inscription in large letters "SAIGA" reads what kind of Kalashnikov assault rifle ?! And there’s nothing new in it ... the store’s mine + new forend, well, of course, the shutter lag. ALL)
    Bullshit for the domestic market of America. I think the name AK-15 is just an advertising move in order to bring together the not close AR-15 and AK)
  11. crambol
    crambol 4 October 2013 10: 15 New
    +6
    Workmanship and coatings cause tears, we would do that!
  12. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 4 October 2013 10: 47 New
    +1
    Who will explain

    Why do you need a Picatinny rail on a combined-arms machine?

    Indeed, the combined-arms machine has a narrow set of additional equipment: a grenade launcher, a scope - everything seems to be ... But for 2 - 3 devices you can create (and have already created) special mounts. Therefore, to produce a combined-arms machine with Picatinny slats is at least stupid.

    It seems to me that the introduction of Picatinny bars is an informational diversion of our ... geopolitical competitors.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 4 October 2013 11: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      Why do you need a Picatinny rail on a combined-arms machine?

      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      Indeed, the combined-arms machine has a narrow set of additional equipment: a grenade launcher, a scope - everything seems to be ... But for 2 - 3 devices you can create (and have already created) special mounts.

      The Picatatinni rail is just the standard of fixtures for various additional equipment, nothing more, the Western standard. All the bells and whistles now go under it, dovetail, in the west people would not understand. It's like different charger connectors for mobile phones, who like what.
      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      It seems to me that the introduction of Picatinny bars is an informational diversion of our ... geopolitical competitors.

      Geopolitical competitors simply remade our famous weapons to fit their needs and those of our customers.
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 4 October 2013 12: 23 New
        0
        in the west, people would not understand

        But are we doing combined arms weapons for ourselves, or for the West?
        I understand the Picatini straps on weapons for special forces, for the police. But for the army ...
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 4 October 2013 12: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
          But are we doing combined arms weapons for ourselves, or for the West?

          What does the combined arms weapon have to do with it? An article about tuning a civil carbine. request
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 4 October 2013 12: 39 New
            0
            And I'm talking about general AK
            1. vanaheym
              vanaheym 4 October 2013 12: 59 New
              +1
              Show the combined arms AK in the article? Do you see him? For example, I see "Saiga" ..
              1. Ivan_Ivanov
                Ivan_Ivanov 4 October 2013 13: 05 New
                +2
                Show where it is forbidden to write comments and ask questions on related and related questions?
                1. vanaheym
                  vanaheym 4 October 2013 13: 15 New
                  +2
                  Given that both the Ukrainian and Russian army are gradually switching to a professional basis, the requirements for weapons of a professional soldier will be somewhat different from the requirements for weapons of conscripts, as well as their tactics, moving away from Soviet instructions with massive infantry attacks.
                  It is not for nothing that the Ukrainian army, for example, is switching from the armament of the SVD to the Ukrainian sniper rifles of the Mayak factory in .338 Lapua Magnum caliber, although the SVD is a legend.
                  1. Ivan_Ivanov
                    Ivan_Ivanov 4 October 2013 13: 18 New
                    0
                    Not without reason, for example, the Ukrainian army is moving from the armament of the SVD ...

                    For nothing that goes ...
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                  2. Wiruz
                    Wiruz 4 October 2013 15: 32 New
                    -2
                    Is this the Lighthouse?!?! This is the T-5000 !!!
                    1. vanaheym
                      vanaheym 4 October 2013 19: 32 New
                      +4
                      If for you everything that is not SVD and bolted is T5000, then yes, then this is T5000.
                      And so, actually - this is the Zbroyar Z-008, an enterprise rifle that lasts longer than Orsis.
                  3. Timeout
                    Timeout 5 October 2013 06: 52 New
                    0
                    And how many new weapons are there now in the troops of the Square? Yeah, they enter the army ..., dreams come true, everywhere it’s Zbroyar and Oploti ..
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    2. vanaheym
      vanaheym 4 October 2013 12: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      Why do you need a Picatinny rail on a combined-arms machine?

      Probably so that the owners of this tuned Saiga could put on it not only Soviet sights like the PSO-1, but also something else, much more perfect.
      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      It seems to me that the introduction of Picatinny bars is an informational diversion of our

      I think this should be told to the designers of the AK-12, who refused side mounting in favor of the Picatinny rail.
      As an option, the main saboteurs are Russian special forces, who for their money buy sights such as Eotech or Aimpoint (due to lack of analogues) and install them on the same AK inventing skis with their installation.
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 4 October 2013 12: 43 New
        0
        Do you understand that there are different requirements for combined arms and special forces weapons?

        So the inconvenience of the special forces has nothing to do with the issue raised. What is the disadvantage of the lack of sights on the Picatinny rail?
        1. vanaheym
          vanaheym 4 October 2013 13: 03 New
          +1
          Well, that is, special forces can have picatinny rails and normal sights, but for example, a contract soldier does not need a sight at all, even if it shoots from the open?
          (Given the fact that the counterparty troops are almost 100% equipped and in combat conditions have shown their effectiveness)
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 4 October 2013 13: 07 New
            +1
            So you want to say that the requirements for special weapons and combined arms are about the same?
      2. Timeout
        Timeout 5 October 2013 07: 55 New
        0
        Quote: vanaheym
        I think this should be told to the designers of the AK-12, who refused side mounting in favor of the Picatinny rail.
        As an option, the main saboteurs are Russian special forces, who for their money buy sights such as Eotech or Aimpoint (due to lack of analogues) and install them on the same AK inventing skis with their installation.


        Another nonsense, adapters, brackets from the side to Picatini are produced nemereno, including even by Russian manufacturers. Or do you think that if in Russia they adopt a new machine, they will rearm the entire army? You are clearly detached from reality. And yet, with the joint exercises of the US marines and naval marines of the Russian Federation in Vladivostok, they clearly showed that the presence of a collimator and assault optics had no effect on the results of the exercises, the entire American landing was destroyed 100%. With a similar landing, the Russian side “killed” 25% of the landing. As markers were used laser simulators that brought mattresses with them. The battle went company by company.
  13. Admiral 013
    Admiral 013 4 October 2013 10: 47 New
    0
    Kalashnikov has long been a full-fledged independent culture. What weapons did you see on the arms of several sovereign states besides Kalashik? So it is not surprising that today until fig all sorts of modifications of this is still the most popular weapon in the world.
  14. Zerstorer
    Zerstorer 4 October 2013 10: 52 New
    +1
    Well, everything looks completely nothing. BUT (!) All this junk does not give decisive advantages over the original. Yes, replaced the trunk. but if the barrel is much more accurately made, then it will have to be cleaned more often, and this is not always possible in combat conditions.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 4 October 2013 12: 25 New
      +3
      The accuracy of manufacturing the barrel and its exact landing in the mounting pin - does not lead to an increase in the frequency of its cleaning. But increasing the manufacturing accuracy of the chamber leads to potential problems from the use of cheap ammunition like Wolf / Tulammo with a polymer coating.
      Quote: Zerstorer
      and this is not always possible in combat conditions.

      This is Saiga, what are the combat conditions?
  15. understudy
    understudy 4 October 2013 11: 09 New
    +1
    Bullshit. But thanks to the author for the information.
  16. sillsas
    sillsas 4 October 2013 12: 01 New
    +1
    Forend a little reminds PPSh.
  17. georg737577
    georg737577 4 October 2013 12: 02 New
    +1
    You can immediately buy a SIG 550 and not fool around ...
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 4 October 2013 12: 48 New
      +1
      They can’t just buy a SIG-550; it’s in the USA under a ban.
      1. Timeout
        Timeout 5 October 2013 07: 14 New
        0
        Another disinformation? SIGs are selling well in the US in their price range from 3500 to 13000 bucks! It's just a little expensive for an American. Do not mislead people!
      2. Ytfluunu
        Ytfluunu 6 October 2013 14: 47 New
        0
        there is a SIG 556
  18. georg737577
    georg737577 4 October 2013 12: 08 New
    +4
    And really, why reinvent the wheel ...
  19. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 4 October 2013 13: 02 New
    +2
    If grandmother had eggs, he would be grandfather. AK-15 with such alterations is no longer a grandmother.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 4 October 2013 13: 06 New
      +1
      This is a commercial project, people make money - if they buy it, then everything is fine. The base is that “Saiga” that comes to the United States - no AK, no gun, or anything else.
    2. sven27
      sven27 4 October 2013 15: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      If grandmother had eggs, he would be grandfather

      My favorite army saying)))
  20. kirpich
    kirpich 4 October 2013 13: 32 New
    -1
    Definitive Arms and Krebs Custom have jointly created, incorrectly, one of the most beautiful modifications of AK

    Create something, maybe created, only who will use it? Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? After Serdyukov, abstain (own ass more expensive).
    1. bezumnyiPIT
      bezumnyiPIT 4 October 2013 20: 41 New
      0
      do you care? why if you created something then you need to immediately equip someone with this weapon? gunshot for a gun shop
  21. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 4 October 2013 14: 07 New
    +1
    I somehow do not know what kind of mania amers triple the receiving shaft for the store? In M-16, in the PP of various stripes, this mine is available. And the absence of this in AK there for some reason is considered a flaw.
    Specialists, enlighten my dark consciousness! I will be grateful.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 4 October 2013 14: 26 New
      +3
      The mine was put to use stores AR-15. Without it, these stores cannot be used. We decided to use such stores because of their faster reset (and for IPSC shooters, this is important), and the quality of Magpul exceeds the quality of regular stores.
      1. Timeout
        Timeout 5 October 2013 07: 27 New
        +1
        With proper skills, the store is removed and inserted from the AK in 2 movements. The magazine mount is considered the best for AK combat weapons. It seems that you know about shooting from AK only from the Internet.
  22. Altona
    Altona 4 October 2013 14: 31 New
    +3
    Americans love to practice finalizing the Kalashnikov assault rifle and its tuning and design derivatives, according to Discovery it is often shown, they really like the design ... So in this regard, the master-master, as you want and pervert ... They already have a whole such a subculture dedicated to AK and SVD ... I see nothing wrong with that ... Moreover, people are exploring the capabilities of our weapons thoroughly and making improvements that they consider necessary ...
    1. romanru4
      romanru4 4 October 2013 20: 23 New
      +2
      You have a little misplaced accents in the US weapons subculture on tuning and upgrading our small arms. In the first place SCS (by a wide margin) and only in the second AK of Bulgarian and local industries. Everything else Soviet small arms is tuned much less and within the limits of statistical error.
      1. vanaheym
        vanaheym 4 October 2013 21: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: romanru4
        Everything else Soviet small arms is tuned much less and within the limits of statistical error.

        Soviet AK they have exorbitant money to tune it
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 5 October 2013 06: 45 New
          0
          Again, bullshit? After Iraq and Libya, the US arms market is quite saturated with Soviet-made AKs, and the price tag is quite affordable, especially compared to AR10 / 15. The price ranges from 750 to 1200, depending on the year of manufacture. And besides CIA, the full production of AK is conducted by Vector Arms.
  23. kirpich
    kirpich 4 October 2013 18: 19 New
    -1
    Quote: Altona
    ..Although people study the capabilities of our weapons thoroughly and make improvements that they consider necessary ...


    Well, the flag in their hands and a fair wind in the back.

    You look, something new will work out, but it will come in handy good
  24. Garrym
    Garrym 4 October 2013 18: 47 New
    -4
    Quote: Serg888
    Another thing is more interesting - where are our Lefties and other gunsmiths?


    Where is the Russian civilian weapons market when a citizen can go to the store and buy a semi-automatic rifle without too much trouble? In the United States there is such a market, where the power of armed citizens is not afraid, and left-handed people with small firms are full, but in Russia the majority of left-handed people go under the article or shabbat. In the United States, citizens can easily make weapons themselves in garages (within the framework of the law), and in the Russian Federation a completely different reality is where you have to wait 5 years to buy small things with a shotgun


    Just do not understand, do you really think that the free circulation of weapons, as in the United States, is this normal? As for me, this is bullshit ... Wild West is long over, but the laws remain. So they live shooting along in the neighbors. Makhnovism is clean.
    And as for the "Lefty", so the king himself invited him to work. So it should be, talents should work for the state, that is, for the benefit of ALL citizens, and not a separate contingent ...
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    3. vanaheym
      vanaheym 4 October 2013 20: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: GarryM
      So they live shooting along in the neighbors. Makhnovism is clean.

      And here, people live tapping each other with hammers, bottles, axes and cutting kitchen knives. And the percentage of people who attack each other with their personal weapons tend to zero, compared with household.
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  26. kirpich
    kirpich 4 October 2013 20: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: GarryM
    Just do not understand, do you really think that the free circulation of weapons, as in the United States, is this normal? TO


    What’s abnormal here? In Georgia, in Moldova, the short-barrel is sold freely (though with some restrictions). I didn’t hear that the Georgians and Moldavians started a war in the yard. But then every day I watch and listen to on Moscow TV, they KILLED from a traumatic event.
    LORD !!! YES HOW MUCH CAN YOU DO FROM US ???
    Yes, I am ready to become a Georgian or Moldavian to buy a cop and so that it lies at my fingertips.
  27. sedoj
    sedoj 4 October 2013 21: 33 New
    +1
    I wonder how much time now takes to disassemble and assemble this product to clean it? Twist all the screws a couple of times to get to the gas chamber, everything will loose. The more bells and whistles, the faster they go loose. Then, bolts, screws, welding, gluing, electrical tape, etc. are used. etc. So the toy is disposable - bought, hung on the wall and admire.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 4 October 2013 21: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: sedoj
      The more bells and whistles, the faster they go loose.

      Well, just the mechanics of AK are such that either to make a fixed gas tube, or to cling optics to a standard one so that it hangs like a fuck in the hole. Or make a monolithic receiver cover like TWS Dog Leg with a hinge mounted instead of an open sight.
      Or put crutches on the side bar, so that later you can put optics on these crutches.
      The gas pipe itself can be perfectly cleaned without daily removal from the machine. If we talk about loosening, then I see no reason why the fastening screws should loosen in a quality product.
      1. Locksmith
        Locksmith 5 October 2013 02: 04 New
        -1
        Quote: vanaheym
        Well, just the mechanics of AK are

        The mechanics of the Ak are self-sufficient and do not require a body kit, the crap invented in the West is no better than the YEARS that can be operated on AK-like units, absolutely without problems. The side suspension of the sight does not impair accuracy, does not impair ergonomics, it is just different, no worse than the same weaver and picatini, it is just different, created for WAR and not a prom.
        1. vanaheym
          vanaheym 5 October 2013 02: 58 New
          +4
          Quote: Locksmith
          it’s just different, created for WAR and not promenade.

          The side bar was invented to mount optics on the weapon, which was not adapted for this. And has always been regarded as an ersatz. It was then that some urban legends arose that it was an ideal for war, and so on.
          AK - not adapted for the operation of normal sights. All these body kits are also a left ersatz, which makes it possible to put something that is not set according to normal and cross the snake with a hedgehog. But it is necessary to set, because a soldier who cannot even see the enemy who shoots at him usually dies. Again, the Soviet doctrines of mass infantry attacks went to the bottom together with the country. PSO-1 / Racurs / Thread - sights of the level of the 60s, which is shown by really warring units of the Russian army, which put the kit up to the point that they buy imported optics for their money, which they put on picatinny rails - they probably don’t know about that, as the side bar and the optics under it for war, unlike combs.
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          Mechanics Ak is self-sufficient

          Well, that is - a self-sufficient fighter with an open sight at a time makes a guy equipped with AKOG and / or modern night optics installed on the machine?
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        Quote: vanaheym
        Quote: sedoj
        The more bells and whistles, the faster they go loose.

        Well, just the mechanics of AK are such that either to make a fixed gas tube, or to cling optics to a standard one so that it hangs like a fuck in the hole. Or make a monolithic receiver cover like TWS Dog Leg with a hinge mounted instead of an open sight.
        Or put crutches on the side bar, so that later you can put optics on these crutches.
        The gas pipe itself can be perfectly cleaned without daily removal from the machine. If we talk about loosening, then I see no reason why the fastening screws should loosen in a quality product.


        What the fuck are crutches and mount screws in AK? And adapters for what? You probably don’t even suspect them ....
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          Quote: vanaheym
          Well, that is - a self-sufficient fighter with an open sight at a time makes a guy equipped with AKOG and / or modern night optics installed on the machine?

          See the post above!
  28. kirpich
    kirpich 5 October 2013 13: 49 New
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    Quote: sven27
    Quote: chunga-changa
    If grandmother had eggs, he would be grandfather

    My favorite army saying)))


    She would be a transvestite.
  29. Crrusader40
    Crrusader40 5 November 2013 23: 59 New
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    there is nothing completely new in it. just hung any garbage.
    not sure what it should be called AK-15
  30. wtfrudoin
    wtfrudoin 4 May 2016 21: 42 New
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    And yet, with the joint exercises of the US marines and marines of the Russian Navy in Vladivostok



    And can it be more detailed with proofs? Google doesn’t give out anything.
  31. kerosene
    kerosene 9 October 2016 16: 13 New
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    Plagiarism from the new Kalashnikov!
  32. OlegLex
    OlegLex 2 November 2016 19: 30 New
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    It certainly looks beautiful, it’s brutally possible to say, but .... how would it ... in general, it’s like a good dog, you know, in the very juice Alabai put it in little ruffles, pink bows, pull on a thong and so on including a plug in fall. he will remain a dog, but he is no longer destined to be a fighter. so with this modification of AK. you can’t fight with him anymore. if the dirt gets in the casing or in the store’s receiver all the weapons fail, and the sand immediately becomes contraindicated, and about the muzzle brake in general, no, of course it is beautiful. only after a queue of three five rounds you will not see the target in the collimator and you will have to look over the scope and with a high degree of probability to catch someone else’s bullet while you crush the eggs. I don’t understand other people's sores on horseradish for good weapons
    The company Definitive Arms using the platform of the Kalashnikov assault rifle, improved weapons. Weapons equipped with a store receiver, allowing you to use standard stores for the AR15 rifle. In addition, the AK-15 has a shutter lag, which increases the manufacturing speed for firing after the magazine has been replaced.
    How can you improve perfection tell me. No, what is the IMPROVED Kalashnikov assault rifle (not to be confused with modernization)
  33. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 20 November 2016 12: 02 New
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    It looks like an M-16, not Kalashnikov. soldier
  34. Navy7981
    Navy7981 24 November 2016 19: 05 New
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    Here is my question. Exclusively in order of reasoning. I do not mind, I am for the modernization of AK, but I would like that in a fit of enthusiasm, they would not forget that the best is the enemy of the good. In any long-term conflict, one of the main points is the possibility of producing military uniforms and weapons with minimal labor. As an example - German tanks! After all, there were good tanks! Technological, with good armor, guns, and now imagine that the Germans could do them as fast as we T34 !!! ??? And the awesome Teutonic genius was never able to develop a technology that allows you to make any weapon quickly and with a commensurate quality and, in my opinion, is not entirely appropriate for geography and climate. How "merkavu" or "Abrams", but in our coppices and ravines, will they go far? Maybe in the steppes of the outskirts, then yes, it probably will.
    Well, then, I fall into the liquid spring mud and all this shyza fun penetrates through all these cute and brutal holes? No, I do not deny their usefulness in terms of, well, maybe cooling, because I don’t know whether it helps or not. Also (due to retrograde on the topic - before the sky was pigeons) I do not always understand the body kit of weapons with additional stray. Sometimes they are needed, sometimes not, but you need to be able to effectively use sights before stepping up to us from the 19th century. And what, train to aim without closing the left (right) eye. Just how each element of a weapon is good when it is needed. And if you have the opportunity to quickly replace something - our side mount. Ah - they say this is the last century, so what? Why does the machine have incredible accuracy when operating from 50 to 150 meters? Our side, quick-detachable mount with a weaver rail is more convenient in my opinion. Yes, after the rearrangement, it seems like you need to shoot, etc., but if after the rearrangement to the mentioned 150 m I get say, not in the center, but in the right 2? (I’m not talking about specialists. This is a separate conversation.). , but a simple fighter? Itself fell, dropped from a fright or something else tryndets. I saw one like that, okay, the border, with it throws the trunk less, but he didn’t need a powerful sniper scope in the forest for some reason, for some reason combined with a calimator, I still didn’t understand it. Beyond my comprehension. The red dot can give out your position, the assault handle can catch, the flashlight can crash, the scope will fly off ... In general, in any situation for combined arms affairs, I would prefer to have the most light, unencumbered weapons, but I would carry something packaged for the specifics in the knapsack immediately on interchangeable levels. Well this is my deeply pure opinion.
  35. Murderer
    Murderer 25 June 2017 13: 44 New
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    Some garbage ...